Economic contraction and stupid Stalin

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Speaker 1 (00:43):
It is nine thirty on a Thursday at night, and
you were tuned into Beltweigh Radio and beyond, which can
mean one only thing. This is chip Chat. Welcome to
chip Chat, everybody. I'm Chip Who are you tesz? Happy? Uh?
Welcome back, I guess is the thing to welcome back.

(01:03):
No news happened. We were off for a week a
week because we had schedule conflicts, and uh, nothing happened.
We we as usual. When we're gone, nothing else happens.
Certainly no couchwucker has killed any popes. That definitely didn't happen.

Speaker 2 (01:27):
No, no, no, no, the Pope is still alive.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
Sure, if you listen to this show and that's your
only source of news, you have no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
We're the worst two people to talk about the Pope.

Speaker 1 (01:42):
I don't know we're the worst, but we're pretty unqualified.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It's not your domain, you know, it's definitely definitely not
my domain.

Speaker 1 (01:53):
But you no, I mean, I don't know. He wears
one of the hats like my people. That's wear a
hat like people's, like a little I don't think they
caught it. However, many millions of Catholics. There's a billion Catholics,
a billion exactly and offend all of them at once.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Careful they'll start crusading.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
My kids were like casually mentioning the like, uh, you
know because my wife is Catholic. They're like, oh, well,
you know, the Catholics and the Jews don't have any problem.
I was like, oh, I was like, historically.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
Might be the problem, Like the might have caused the problem, right, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Maybe from the very beginning. And I was like, well,
they kind of told everybody all these stories about us
that aren't true that caused them to like crusade and
riot and try to kill all of us. But Congress
is going to make it legal for you to still

(03:07):
say that the Jews killed Jesus. But it's not while
combating anti Semitism.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, I mean to be I mean, I mean this
in the literal term your folks are getting from the
left and right.

Speaker 1 (03:25):
We are, yeah, I mean, we're taking it from all sides.
And historically, whenever the Jews are invoked in anything, whether
it's where the supposed victims or the perpetrators of it,
never ends well for us. And and like you can see,

(03:47):
we all could see it, right, we can all see it.
When they're like oh yeah, we're combating anti semitism. We're like, oh, good,
go get the torch guys in Charlottesville, and they're like, not
that kind of anti semitism.

Speaker 2 (03:58):
Those are nice evangelicals.

Speaker 1 (04:00):
Yeah yeah, We're like, oh, okay, we know what you mean.
And then then when they're like sort of explicitly like, oh, well,
you know, it'll still be okay for us to say
these things, and we're like, oh, okay, we have jumped
several sharks, Like let's let's just stop pretending that going

(04:26):
after people for protesting for human rights and Gaza is
anything about anti Semites, and for the love of God,
go aheam. This is addressed to all y'all. I'm not
discriminating in one direction or another. Stop telling us what
is and what isn't anti semitism that that is not okay.

(04:46):
I don't tell Tees what is anti black racism. I
don't tell him that. If he says that's racist, I
go yes, sir. And if I tell you that, it's
okay for me the Jewish kid to say what Benjamin
and Yahoo and the right wing government in Israel are

(05:08):
doing to the people of Gaza is reprehensible and a
genocide you don't get to then tell me the Jewish
kid that I am anti Semitic. That is not how
that works. It's spatch it crazy that the fact is.

Speaker 2 (05:20):
But I mean, kudos to you to be able to
to have some type of I don't want to call
it a nuance, but to be able to I guess.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Parse here. I mean, but in the sense that it's
I guess being able to speak to.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Specific things versus generalizing it all as one.

Speaker 1 (05:45):
Okay, well pick the thing that you identify as right,
like you are. You're a DC uh native, right, Okay,
but someone argue that British Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, but
you're a DC native, right. So like by default, if
I say to you, hey, I don't like Bowser stadium idea,

(06:07):
which for the record, I do like Bowser stadium idea,
you probably don't.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Oh, I do I because I'm because God wish A
lot of people are to come killed me for that one.
But yeah, we've already lost a bat.

Speaker 1 (06:23):
And I didn't even put it in the script because
I think it's so far off from like this discussing it,
it's like not even worth it. If I say I
don't like Bowser stadium idea, right, you don't. I don't know.
Are you gonna interpret that as me slandering the people
of the district?

Speaker 2 (06:43):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
No, what would you interpret that.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
As that you don't like the government that is running
said district?

Speaker 1 (06:52):
Right? Seems easy, I mean, it seems easy.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
But I think that if the reason it's not is
because there are years of conditioning for to not be easy.

Speaker 1 (07:05):
Yeah. We we we own some of this, right. We
did spend a lot of time saying, hey, if you
say anything about Israel, you're just anti Semitic. That that
was never true, and and people who said that should
not have said that. We that is not correct.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
But even I mean, that's one piece there. But I
think even if you remove which it sounds crazy, right
to remove, is rarely the juice people from that conversation
as well. There are other forces outside of that, right,
whether it's whiteness, the whole concept.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
Of that, yeah, which makes no sense, and especially in
that context where everybody there is ethnically identical.

Speaker 2 (07:42):
Yeah, yeah, right, because like semi people. To me, that
mean that's a.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Lot of people, right, because a lot of folks. Right,
it's the whole Middle East and most of the East Africa.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
And Afghani would be considered that yeah you think.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Maybe that, Yeah, I think so. But it's so it's
a language group, not exactly like an ethnic thing, but
like the Semitic languages includes Amharic and Arabic and Hebrew
and yeah.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
So but we all it's clear and we could pick
any topic, but people want to drill this down to
the simplest form because it's easier I won't even say
the comprehend but easy to argue and fight about. Because
when you start asking those deeper questions and asking people
to give educated answers on that, it's it's uh, it's

(08:34):
a failure there. And I think a lot of folks
who would even want to speak out against like like
what's happened to genocide and Gaza, they find it hard
and I think again it shouldn't, but they find it
hard to be able to go and say the Israeli
government versus lumping all of Jewish people together, and that

(08:57):
could flip on like right, like I mean we could
pick that for whatever, I could pick that from. Yeah,
that's feel everything. It's so many like for Muslims feel
the same way, right, like you think nine to eleven
and you're like, oh.

Speaker 1 (09:06):
Well, John, Muslims, Muslims committed nine to eleven. I don't think, well, no,
it's not even I don't think that's people committed nine
to eleven.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
With a different with a different interpretation of yeah, whatever
they were up to you.

Speaker 1 (09:23):
I mean, they could have been mad about ice cream flavors.
Who cares like they are the ones who did it though,
Like it's not yeah, I don't know, it just it is. Uh,
it's very it's gross. I don't like it.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
So I would definitely know.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
I don't get to do this much, but I would
love to plug.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
The book that is in everybody in the Zeitgeist right now,
which I almost finished, Abundance by Ezra Klein and Dereck Thompson. Uh,
you should read this, I think, and actually this is
a message to all the liberals out there right, everyone
should read that. I don't agree with everything in it.
And I mean I said I don't agree with everything
in it. It makes me think about things in a day.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Isn't this the book that God has reclined kind of
in trouble or something? People, I am mad at him
for it.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean, because it's what the idea of the
right with the name is that we kind of have
everything that we need to solve the biggest issues of
our time. But it's just really it's I'll give this
example which has me thinking a lot about it, right,
and it's saying, all right, well, we know these example
in San Francisco about this housing public housing that they

(10:27):
ended up building for the un housed, and how private
investment was able to do this in some record time
maybe like two years to get it fun and basically
they were breaking down on how there are so many
roadblocks if the government had to do it, and roadblocks
that are good things in the sense right that oh,
the people who need to build this need to maybe

(10:48):
we need to look at minority contractors first, right, But
it's almost in the sense that have we put so
many barriers up against actually getting things done?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I think?

Speaker 2 (11:01):
And the biggest thing, right, and I know when it's
rare that we ever celebrate the Trump administration on this program,
but I do think you look at something like Operation
Warp Speed, and they talk about that, and I've said
this forever. I'm like we always you've been saying it's like, yo,
if you've ran on it, we're big fans of the
warp speed. But again, that's one of those clear examples
of how if you kind of remove a lot of

(11:24):
like in that case, right, some of the things that
it takes to get vaccines right to market, right, and
just the approach that they did by like, hey, whoever
is able to do this, the government's gonna buy all
this stuff, And it's just really it's a it's a
conversation around that government.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Can still do big things.

Speaker 2 (11:43):
It's we need to have the will. The government has
to have the will to do it. And obviously they're
really not speaking to like the Republicans or the right
because it's like, well, at that point, they don't really
they don't really even necessari.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
A lot of these things, do you open up the
opportunity for a lot of corruption?

Speaker 2 (12:00):
And then yes you do, but then yeah, there you go.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
The counter argument, I would guess without having read this
at all, is like, you know, if these things like
making sure that there's minority contractors involved, if we didn't
have a problem with minority folks or non white folks
having access to the system, we wouldn't need that rule, right,
And if we didn't have a problem with people being

(12:27):
willfully destructive of the environment. We wouldn't need so many
environmental studies to do things. Like some of the reasons
that we have all of these rules in place is
because people are shitty, yeah, and and there if we
could if we could fix those kind of like other problems,
we could move a lot faster and a lot more efficiently.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
The question that I asked myself at this point is
it's like, all right, well, cool, right, I want to
make sure that like I, well, just use minority own
like contractors to help build certain things. Really like a
great thing. But if we're not able to build housing,
if we're not able to do like, is any of
the other stuff gonna matter at the end? Right, if

(13:12):
I'm not able to solve if we're not able to
get awaited to change like ocean water into fresh drinking water, Like,
what does it really like? What does all the other
things matter? Because there's a lot that's gonna end up
happening to us that doesn't necessarily have to happen to us.
And they just the great argument in the sense of
like a lot of it was like, oh, we need

(13:33):
the demand, we needed demand coming out of the recession.
We need demand. Well, no, no, the demand is there. We
don't have to supply pick your pick whatever you want, right, right, yeah,
pick pick any area.

Speaker 1 (13:43):
So just a just just a I mean all meaning
things are in our own way. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
And it's almost like they made a great point of
just like the Clinton administration and how almost like the
policies that they took over from, like really what Reagan's arts, right,
it's almost that that like it was almost like democrats
dur in that time, we're doing a better job at
being Republicans and Republicans were doing Republicans. And it's just
it's clear obviously I wasn't you didn't see that in

(14:11):
the and he blew a nice saxophone and we all
loved him, and like there are things that he did well.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
But that's a good example, right that you can you
can do things that are maybe a little less goody
two shoes right to get things done and then also
do some of the goodie two shoes things on the
side or next to it or in parallel or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:34):
But it was just I mean, like around health care,
and it's just a lot of different things.

Speaker 1 (14:39):
It was, I mean I experienced this at work all
the time. They they you know, unteen checklists to make
sure that you're you're doing so many things and the
result is it's very expensive to do anything. It takes
forever to do anything. Simple stuff like the change of
light can take three days because of all of this
extra stuff that we have to go through.

Speaker 2 (14:58):
Yeah. Yeah, that's the whole less th I hope I'm
into the book there. I blow everybody to read it.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Tim Alberna also from the Atlantic, because I was at
the Oh yeah, they had a future event on Tuesday
and a lot of great speakers on there, and Jeff
Goldberg is always very funny.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
But Tim Alberner had this great joke and I'm.

Speaker 2 (15:21):
I'm not goning to do it justice, but they were
talking about like these two maga people who like walked
out of like a hospital or something and got hit
by a truck, right, and they ended up going to
like the Pearly Gates and whatnot. And I forgot what
saying or whoever they're asking to get in there. Peter,
Saint Peter, That's exactly Saint Peter. And then he just
asked to Saint Peter and he was like, yo, he said,

(15:41):
before I go, I just have to ask you guys,
like Joe Biden really didn't win the twenty twenty election.
And then Saint Peter's like, no, of course, he wanted
fair and square. And then the guy who's in the
line turns of the other MAGA.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
Guy that says, Yo, this goes higher than I thought. Yes.

Speaker 2 (16:04):
I literally burst out into laughter. It was one of
the better jokes I've heard in some time. I'm not
doing a justice because there's more into it, but that
is the gist of the joke, and it was just like,
oh god, yeah, yes, because they were asking what we
convert people? Who was talking about his own family members, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
but it was it was a real It was a
really good There was a really good event. Francis Collins

(16:25):
from the director of Director of n I H had
some really good things to say.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
He was a former director than he finally retired. He
was there for a million years too, him and thought
you were like buddies exactly, and they yeah, So it
was a really did you get him on the show?
Did you talk to any of these guys?

Speaker 2 (16:44):
I didn't get that. I didn't get a chance to
get that.

Speaker 1 (16:46):
Even even my good.

Speaker 2 (16:47):
Friend uh An Applebom was out of there. I did
get to talk to jam L hill though, so I
know you can. It was more like I just find
out right, I.

Speaker 1 (16:59):
Belie leave it when they're on, all right. Yeah. So
the other thing is, uh, we have our first quarter
of negative growth, which is an excellent word in economics
that we get to use negative growth. Uh, Canada had elections,
rfks killing people, a bunch of other fun stuff. It's

(17:19):
gonna be a good show, I think. Yeah, we have
we have a good headlines section, you know, this week,
so you know it should be it should be good. Oh.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
She was also at this and she spoke. She was
very Kristin Hillman, the ambassador of Canada, was there and
she was very fun.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
She was like, yeah, we're angry as Canadians right now.
An angry Canadian is very dangerous. They might apologize at you. Yeah, yeah,
they're very sorry.

Speaker 2 (17:54):
Sorry, we need to go on Roger up and see
his feelings on this side. I know he doesn't want
touch any of the ship or one hundredoot pole.

Speaker 1 (18:00):
Sorry. Yeah, okay, so there you go. Uh you got
a word, Yeah, of course, okay, I've got a word.
So sit back, grab some abundance. It's elbows time. You're
listening to the best show, the only show, chip Chat

(18:22):
on Beltway Radio and beyond. All right, welcome back to

(19:17):
chip Chat here on beltwegh Radio and beyond. I am
your Rose Chip with me is Tez. All right, Let's
do some headlines. This is part of the show where
we go through the news. We have a lot of
things about the news, but this is this is just
the headlines. We're not gonna give any details, no details,
just gonna just gonna go ahead and hit them hard.
You want to be the first or the second.

Speaker 2 (19:41):
I'll take a second one.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
I liked our new graphic headaching headlines. There you go.

Speaker 2 (19:45):
Look at that? Did you rip this from the commercial?

Speaker 1 (19:51):
That looks exactly from the looks like whatdo fed does
to you? Yeah? Or like the person? Yeah? All right,
go ahead, you want to you want to hit the
first one?

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (20:04):
Let me get the second one?

Speaker 1 (20:05):
Okay. Uh. The FBI and other agencies have begun using
polygraph tests to find people leaking stories to the press
about the administration and other things that they find embarrassing
are otherwise unpleasant. And we know this because Pete Hags
have texted it to us.

Speaker 2 (20:20):
Of course, Yeah, I had a strong signal that day.
Speaking of texts, Mike Waltz, who added my good friend
Jeffrey Goldberg uh to the text chat with Peteheads, has
been fired by Trump. He lasted just short of ten
scare Mucci's now now, I don't know if we call
this fire.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
We'll get to that. Yeah. Waltz is the first to
go in what is expected to be the ever revolving
door of the Trump regime. He danced out just in time, however,
says since he is being replaced by incoming National Security
Advisor Kid Rock, of.

Speaker 2 (20:57):
Course absolutely, uh, this isn't exactly correct. Ultimately, the new
ambassador to the UN and little Marco will be getting
his hands around the State Department and n SC.

Speaker 1 (21:10):
Like he did with that water bottle. Well, yeah, good
one there. RFK is seeking to end a federal program
that distributes narcan, which is about me, which has been
credited with curving the OPIOI death epidemic. Stab it is evil,
Laron Bethesa. However, we'll still have access and we're still
using all of the drugs all of the time. I

(21:32):
had a problem.

Speaker 5 (21:37):
This.

Speaker 2 (21:37):
We come ease some tariffs on cars. It's all computers,
Trump said, looking inside his Canadiet code. After his aide
redirected him to yelling about Joe Biden, he was able
to complete his thought.

Speaker 1 (21:49):
Quote, Elon needs to import his cars, so we're helping
him with computer, I added, It's all computer, one single yep.
The White House announced a new trade and tariff negotiating team,
a jellyfish, a squid, and two octopi. The hope is
that they will have slightly more backbone than Trump.

Speaker 2 (22:10):
Hold on, So it's a jellyfish, a squid, and two octopi. Ok,
all right, there you go. Put in the penguin.

Speaker 1 (22:18):
No, no, they actually have back back I guess right.

Speaker 2 (22:23):
Trump's terror negotiations are on again, off again, on off,
up down, dropping to ever lower numbers. Oh my god,
this one straight through. Give this to the audience straight
through because the last one thing me on. Trump's Tereff
negotiations are on again, off again, on off, up, down,

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dropping to ever lower numbers.

Speaker 1 (22:49):
Like Matt Gates on prom Night. There you go. Chris,
China's train ambassador recently called the US teriff regime itll
conceived and damaging or what Trump? Eric?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Oh, going to the gulag. Mark Connie, who won the
Canadian election this week and will remain Prime minister. It's
usually tough to tell who has won the Canadian election,
as all candidates race to politely concede to the others.

Speaker 1 (23:21):
That's correct, that's very nice people. It wasn't unusually spicy
race by Canadian standards, sort of like when they add
salt to their mail. Mark, go ahead, Mark, Corney, h
this is this Pierre, is it my butcher?

Speaker 2 (23:37):
This is it poly Rare.

Speaker 1 (23:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (23:43):
I'm American promising. That's what everybody said right now. By
promising to keep Canada from becoming the fifty first state,
and by pointing out that Pierre poly there sounds like
a made up name in an American cartoon about Canada,
that is exactly.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
That's exactly right. Carnie's login was elbows up, which is
Canadian for a fuck Donald Trump. So nice.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
For years, the US government has had a program that
funds and encourages deaf students to pursue science and engineering
as careers. The Trump administration has ended that program today.
Worse still, they made the announcement by phone call.

Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yes okay, Kalala Harris re emerged from her hiding place
in Doug's attic to begin her run for governor of California,
which we'll soon have a larger economy than the entire
United States.

Speaker 2 (24:34):
Yeah, after being on a California when I was in LA,
every uber driver wanted to talk to me about Karen
Bass and Gavin Newsom.

Speaker 1 (24:42):
That state is very I would be very worried that
that status could easily go back to being read. Oh
yeah could because I could see the populous movement. But
like California red is like, you know, not just easy
and drinkable, but it's also like a little bit it blue,

(25:02):
you know, like Schwarzenegger was a Republican, yes, but not
by any other state standards. It's like when Larry Hogan
is like, oh, I'm a Republican and he's like, who
wants to save the Bay and raise taxes on millionaires?
It's like, okay, hmmm, I like what what do I
like what you're saying?

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Yeah, and jumping right into the spotlight, Harris signaled six
more weeks of trying to forget the twenty twenty four election.

Speaker 1 (25:30):
It's like the shadow.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Yeah, it's like like the groundhog. Yeah for punk Ass
Tony Phil.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Punk As Tony I love that one, all right. Shipping
traffic at West Coast ports fell to record lows as
the terrorists take hold and nobody can afford to import

(25:58):
things from China. So if you have your hopes up
for a new Trump tire one of his weird bibles,
tough shit.

Speaker 2 (26:03):
Yeah, you know, no, for no worry.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
We're only getting two dollars this year, not thirty dollars.
That's right.

Speaker 2 (26:09):
Craziest thing I've ever heard from me.

Speaker 1 (26:11):
It's sort of like when hw they asked him, like,
what do you think a gallon of milk cost? And
he's like, I don't know, ten bucks and it was
like nineteen eighty six.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (26:21):
Yeah, crazy.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
With Doc's idols, workers who would normally be moving the
containers or attending to the freight are also sitting idle,
some without being paid. They've asked people to visit their
new only fans page called Trump made Us Sell feet
picks dot com.

Speaker 1 (26:40):
That's right, just like right over putting right over the
water at the time.

Speaker 2 (26:47):
Yeah, it worked this year. You know, nice scenes.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
It's your toes with the with the long beach port,
you know in the background. In sports, the Cleveland Browns
exhibited their most Cleveland by drafting shad Or Sanders, who
can join their illustrious squad of forty year olds, rapists
and one thing called a Kenny Picket.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Look, man, we've got a great graphic for that, one,
really great grammar quarterback room man.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
Yeah, well, don't worry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 (27:21):
Oh sorry, Actually that's not true. The Browns learned in
the press conference that they had to choose to not
exercise pickets fifty year option, which they chose not to
use because nobody in that organization knows how to count
to five. They still seem more organized than the Giants.

Speaker 4 (27:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, So the story here is that they were they
were like discussing Kenny Pickett to the reporters and they're like, well,
we don't know if he's going to use his option
or not to stick with us for another year. And
one of the reporters is like, no, that's your option.
You have to choose to keep him for another year
or not. And they're like we do and they're like yeah,
and the GM was like, well then no, no, we're

(28:01):
not gonna do that.

Speaker 2 (28:05):
Organization.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, that's probably why Dion said that no quarterback should
ever go there. If they're going into the draft. That's
why Schdor didn't get picked. It has nothing to do
with his lack of talent. I mean, he's a solid
second round sort of guy, you know, at maybe even
a little higher than that. The problem is who wants
to pick a guy and have them be on their

(28:26):
team with Daddy tweeting at you, constantly criticizing your every
fucking move.

Speaker 2 (28:32):
But my thing is, grow up NFL, like grow up
coaches on that when you're worried about it. Dead, we
got we got bigger things.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
You and me, Dad. It's Dion. He's got the audience,
he can push the things around, he can move needle it.
It's a problem the same way that you don't want
like these basket case guys. You don't want a B, right,
A B can catch better than he was a generational round.
But that's the thing because then the question is, and.

Speaker 2 (29:02):
I Jamel didn't because right in the in my community,
everybody is screaming like this collusion, and I'm like, whoaoa guys,
this guy is a Kaepernick, all right, let's.

Speaker 1 (29:11):
Get it's not that good. It's not and and he
might be a venge he might be he might get better. Yeah,
if he can learn to stay in the pocket, not
fucking you know, he finished his career with negative yardage. Right, yes,
don't scream first round to me. I'm just saying doesn't.

Speaker 2 (29:30):
But also too, he could have been first round if
he just kept his mouth shut, right, to be honest,
if he kept his mouth shut, And I think Dion
will be he made a bad play, like just of
how he went about this a little bit, and I
don't think I mean, you.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
Know, what it reminds me of is like the Urban
Meyer problem of like Urban Meyer came from college and
he gets to the NFL, and he starts telling these
guys who have been there for a long time, who
are professionals and who make more money than him, uh,
that he's going to tell them what they're gonna do,
when they're gonna sleep, when they're gonna eat, and all
this kind of stuff. And they're like, whoa guy, You're
the new guy. You know we've been doing this, and

(30:06):
and like that's the problem. If you get drafted, you're
lucky enough to get drafted, say thank you and and
like let the vets tell you like how it is.
You know you can you can make a difference. Jaden
Daniels is a great example. You can make a difference
on a team as a rookie, you know, and and
be that, but understand that you're new, you're inexperienced, and

(30:29):
everybody else that you're about to meet when you get
to the office is also the best ever. They all
got drafted, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:38):
Not.

Speaker 1 (30:40):
Even on the Browns. Those guys are all NFL players.
You know, you're you're a You're used to being the
best all county. Great, you definitely were all counting, might
have been the best in your state, definitely, because you're
better than all the other kids in high school. Everybody
in the NFL was all county. Every buddy in the

(31:00):
NFL was all state. They're all of that.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
I would be pissed if I was cam Ward because
why are we talking about this and not him?

Speaker 1 (31:09):
You know what? I think, Actually he might like this because.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Oh, yeah, he is that type of guy. But yeah,
but but but he's a.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
Little below the radar. He's already not like a publicity
hound kind of guy, and like this is an opportunity
for him to like get the heat off of him
and just go out there and if he you know,
if he screws up a little bit, or you know,
he spends some time holding the clipboard. Nobody's gonna be
talking about him when he does get the chance to shine,
and he will because he's can't ward. Then he's gonna

(31:37):
be golden. And I can't wait to see what he does.
I just hope he doesn't do it against us. Yeah, right,
all right. And finally, in entertainment news, it turns out
that John Lithgow and Sanley Tucci cannot become co Pope's
proving once again that I did not see the movie conclicte.
Uh so there you go. That's her, that's the headlines. Hoorah.

(32:02):
You want to do a break, you want to do
some rundown?

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Maybe I got a new I got a new bit.
You'll catch on to it very quickly.

Speaker 1 (32:11):
But okay, so should we do the break and then
you got to do the bit?

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Or well, yeah, let's do a break, and I'll just
so you know, I'll end it.

Speaker 1 (32:18):
I'll end it with okay, all right, Well we're gonna
take a break. We'll be right back with the rundown.
And you're listening to Chipchat on Beltway Radio and Beyond
ninety nine, Tim couch Ti Debtmer Yeah, the miclab. Yeah yeah,

(32:45):
Now this record is just a check for skepticism. I reckon.
The mechanism is exicism, the method is madness.

Speaker 5 (32:52):
The goal is the best decision to bless your system,
and the rest that's left for the restless and the
young with the best get to come like the last
person on your guest list. Imagine I do this in
my spare time, like a spare tire, one foot in,
one foot out, like aware of wire.

Speaker 1 (33:07):
First thing first, this is not work. This is love
like a.

Speaker 5 (33:11):
German with a knock worse a libel, like clock work.
And if the beat knocks and the heat rocks play
knock knocking up there.

Speaker 1 (33:18):
Then it's no joke. Leacock y'all, just peacocks all show y'all.

Speaker 5 (33:23):
So so so that if this was France, he ain't
would be coming, see her coming, sock and except no
one would come and see her coming.

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Soick and if you get it, come a sock. I'm smoking.
Rap's like a white owl or a brisket served up
with a biscuit. Take it to task. It's like a tiscuit.
If you didn't catch that again, you missed it. So
it's all about you. Hull like this is meantime, a
rap grat. It's just my free time. I know you're faking.

Speaker 2 (33:49):
This should really stick.

Speaker 1 (33:51):
You're looking at it back attack stually. My shit's lip
smack and he is, Tes. Maybe we don't know we're
seeing it there he is? He hey, Tes, that was

(34:11):
that's our buddy Roger. He's he's safely in.

Speaker 2 (34:14):
Canada, invested in office NPC.

Speaker 6 (34:17):
I saw him, Yes, as for a beat, like I
wrap anyways, you do you ever get.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
Around to it? Wasting your time doing this nonsense? Okay,
so the bit is is other like first round picks
that flamed out into nothing.

Speaker 2 (34:37):
Yeah, like you know Doug Peterson.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
Peterson, No, he won a Super Bowl as a coach.

Speaker 2 (34:49):
Oh, yes, he did win as coach.

Speaker 1 (34:50):
That is fair. I'm talking about his time in the
year two thousand, sorry two thousand, Yeah, it seems pretty recent.
What are you doing here? I don't like this. I
don't like this bit. You don't like this if you
remember these guys as players. I don't like this bit.

Speaker 2 (35:05):
Oh because your mortality comes up, yes, very quick another year.

Speaker 1 (35:16):
As well, in two thousand, Yeah, I remember briefly. All right,
let's let's see the Rundow. And this is the part
of the show where we tell you about some stuff
that's going on in the news. If we were real
professional news man, it would sound a little something like
this from Beltwait Radio and Beyond in Washington, DC.

Speaker 7 (35:36):
Emmy nominated TV news man and just bonafide sexual beast,
Jay Scott Smith, and this is the part of the
show where I tell some stuff about the well maybe
not me, but somebody else is going to tell some
stuff about what's happening in the news.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
So what's going on in the news? Fellas? Thanks Jay,
and also congratulations are in order to our good friend
Jay Scott Smith. He is back in the Detroit area
and he has landed on Channel four in Detroit, which
is a huge deal. It is like the number one

(36:08):
news UH station there in Detroit, and it is also
what inspired him to get into broadcasting at all as
a kid. So congratulations today he's he's come back to
Michigan UH and he's gonna entertain the people and bring
him the news and do all of the things that
he's so good at. And I you know, we're happy

(36:30):
to have him here on the East Coast for a
little while. Even if he was up in Philly and PA.
But uh, you know he does he is he is
a you know, he's a he's the prodigal son, right,
he's returned. He's he's a he's a creature of I
don't know what else to call it. You know, like
you can take the guy out of Detroit, but you
can't take the Detroit out of the guy. Like that's

(36:53):
that's that's him. So go bloom, there you go.

Speaker 2 (36:56):
There we go.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
I can't wait to set it that clip.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
There's ale set there.

Speaker 1 (37:02):
Well we did beat them, Okay. Uh So now we're
going to talk about the economy, which is the thing
that we love to talk about on this show, which
actually shrunk for the first time in a good long time.
The US economy shrank for the first three months of
twenty twenty five, contracting by an annualized rate of zero
point three percent. Now that sounds like a very tiny bit,

(37:22):
which it is. It is. However, you should know that
it's a huge swing, right that we went from growing
at a rate of like two and a half heard
percent unheard of them based on what we came out of. Yeah,
so basically the economy contracted by threefold. It it took

(37:45):
what we were doing and got smaller and smaller and
smaller and smaller until it got to negative. And we
there are a lot of people who have been kind
of predicting like a recession was on the horizon for
years now, right, And and they questioned, they questioned, how

(38:05):
dare they question uh Tz's oracle and and savior Jay Powell?

Speaker 2 (38:13):
How dare they why Jerome?

Speaker 1 (38:17):
You gotta I mean, come on, you can't question a
guy named Jerome Powell who follows a grateful dead Yeah,
like he's that. That is a lot of stuff. Powell
knew what he was doing, does know what he's doing,
and he delivered the soft landing, and it was like,
what was it three years of consecutive growth? Uh after

(38:38):
after the the COVID you know, got settled, and now
we have negative growth. And that's a weird word. And
one more quarter of that brings us to what everybody
has been asking for. That's the r word, right, So
like officially, just for everybody who's listening, if they want
to know like the details of this. Technically, be a recession,

(39:01):
you have to have two consecutive quarters of contraction, of
economic contraction or negative growth and That's why you usually
don't find out your intercession until you've been in it
for a quarter, right, because you you might know about
Q one, and now you're gonna find out at the
end of Q two. Oh shit, we were also losing
ground in Q two. Now that's two in a row.
Now you could have a technical recession that you could

(39:25):
get out of pretty easily and pretty quickly if the
negative growth is really minimal like this point three percent,
So like we could do another quarter of point three
percent contraction and be technically inter recession, and then like
they could say, get rid of the tariffs and start
behaving like a rational economy and probably fix some of

(39:47):
that that should have happened five weeks ago.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
If we need the ship, No, because the teriffs they're
gonna they're gonna cause massive harm anyway, No, there's nowhere
around it at this point.

Speaker 1 (40:01):
Yeah, the cake is baked here because the and the
reorientation of the global economy to deal with this, and
the and the broken.

Speaker 2 (40:14):
Trust was because what is it reorented to? I don't
even know what we like where this thing works one way,
and it would take at least maybe five years for
any of this to shift another way than that, because yeah,
ten years, maybe a generation, maybe yeah longer, right, Because
think about this, we are in where we are in

(40:35):
this sort of understood economic world order in the post
war era due to mostly American dominance in a lot
of spheres and things that we did to set up
this for Coctus system, and it mostly works to our advantage.

Speaker 1 (40:53):
The reason that they eat pasta and and like bread
in the Philippines is because America started selling them, giving
them wheat during the twenties and thirties and taught them
how to cook it. That wasn't a staple food over
there in the Philippines, but they became one while we
were being colonists there. And now like the spaghetti with

(41:15):
banana ketchup is the number one thing at Jolly Be
or whatever like that is that is a product of
the American dominance economically of the rest of the world,
and most of that was sort of predicated on this
thing where like other parts of the world may disagree
with us on policies, they may disagree with us on

(41:37):
a lot of things that we do, but they they
were like the Americans might be a lot of things,
but what they definitely are is stable and consistent, and
the US dollar is the default world currency. It's what
oil is traded in. It it's the safety net. You know,
I don't like the Americans. We're gonna buy their treasuries anyway.
You know. The Chinese don't like us, but they buy
our treasuries, right, Japanese didn't like us our treasuries anyway.

(42:01):
Like all of those things were true. And what Trump
has done, not just in the way that he's behaving
with the tariffs, what his voters have done is show
the rest of the world that, oh, wait, the Americans
aren't as steady as we thought they are. Yeah that like, oh,

(42:27):
we thought they would they would always look out for
their own economic interest no matter what, and then it
turns out like, oh, these guys will fuck up their
own lives on a dime because they'd rather be mad
about races or gender or or woke swimmers or whatever
the fuck. And yeah that, like a guy yelling about
turning frogs gay, could turn the whole world economy on

(42:50):
its ass. I don't know if it does get fixed.
I mean there is a potential in the same way
that like the British Empire, you know, they had they
had understood that to be forever. The sun never sets, right,
and and once they weren't the rest of the world.

(43:13):
It took a little while, but they eventually reoriented themselves
away from London as the center of the world. We
may be witnessing the beginning of the reorientation of the
global economy around the United States, where we're cut out
in a bubble, including Canada and Mexico. Could you imagine

(43:35):
a situation where the North American continent is not united
economically in and and in the defensive posture, you know,
that could be a really that's a game changer. And
and so like the world boxes us out, That's what
I'm saying. They are gonna do that, right they can.
There's nothing we make that they need. They can they

(43:57):
like to to Raceuirez's point that we were talking about
the last time, it might turn out that when we
look around, the only reason people were buying stuff from
us and integrating us into the economy was because they
thought that we were steady and sound, and we aren't
that anymore. And so turns out they don't need anything
from us. The can buy their shirts from Mauritius, and
you know, they can get their accounting done in Singapore

(44:21):
or whatever. Like, all the things that we sold, all
the services, all the corporate governance that made our version
of things safer and better is gone. Our FDA, it's
not going to do inspections anymore. So why would you
buy American stuff If we're not inspecting drug factories that
are making things for American product American consumption overseas anymore?

(44:42):
Why should you bother to buy the American version of
any of these drugs? Just buy it straight from those
factories and do your own oversight. Like is it is
all unraveling and in a way where like even if
Trump goes, okay, my bad, undo it all, who would
trust us?

Speaker 2 (45:01):
The brain drain is something that I worry about, right.
You think about right after the World War two, right,
and a lot of folks are being persecuted and being able.

Speaker 1 (45:08):
To the.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Way we were able to bring folks here, right, and
the way our government works, the way we invested in research,
whether it pick whatever program you want, Apollo program, right,
where how penicillin gets invented. All of these different things
are because of the stable federal government of the United States, and.

Speaker 1 (45:33):
That well and the instability of places where places. Yeah,
this stuff was, I mean, Einstein comes here because Germany
is not safe for him, and we end up with
the bomb and they don't. Right that that is very
definitely how this works. But the woman who creates the
M and R A.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
That whole concept of that, I think I want to
say she comes from Turkey maybe at that, like right, yeah,
somewhere and right, And even though like that, it took
a while for that to happen, she's been here for
years and that.

Speaker 1 (46:06):
People said, but the reason peoples come here to pursue
scientific research and stuff is because that they think there's
an opportunity and that it's a safe way to do it.
And now we're literally seeing people fleeing. The scientists, the
people who can are fleeing and going to play. And
the Chinese are all too happy to just roll out
that red carpet and say like, hey, you want to

(46:28):
study some sort of science stuff. We don't have a problem.
We're not like religiously bound to hate evolution or whatever.
The fuck. You want to come over here and splice
some stuff together and you'll own it. We'll own it, yeah,
we'll own it. But we'll let you do your research
and we'll even give you money to do it. And
the scientists are like, well, shit, I'm not in this
to make money. I'm in this to like achieve the

(46:51):
thing I wanted to learn. Yeah, I'll go over there, Sure,
why not? And the biggest thing which also took a
hit here is consumer confidence.

Speaker 2 (46:59):
And the only way that the global economy works is
based on as we know, as our good friend ky
Result likes to tell us right that the consumers are
the American consumers are damned near seventy percent of this economy.
And if you shake their if you shake their confidence, right,
I mean, and it will only continue to be shaken. Right.

Speaker 1 (47:18):
If you were thinking about buying something right now, you
might hold off because of what right, And not just
that the consumers are holding off, but think about the
the the producers as consumers, they buy stuff with which
to make stuff, and if they don't think that the
markets are going to be there because of the lack

(47:39):
of consumer confidence, they're not reinvesting. They're not buying new machinery.
The machinery is now more expensive because a lot of
it does come from overseas, and the parts for all
of that are are more expensive. So like the business
community is in a very like all your horses kind
of pose. I mean, it happened to work. There's not
an email that said we're not hiring an we're not

(48:01):
doing anything. We're just gonna like sit still and wait
and see what happens. That's economic disaster. I mean that
when the money stops moving, that's a problem.

Speaker 2 (48:14):
Yeah, because banks are beau then the banks aren't loaning
and they're not getting interest back. I mean, this is
like even if you want to say it's all a
house of cards, cool, that's fine, I'll agree with you
on that, but it's the house of cards was it was.

Speaker 1 (48:30):
The way it works. It was kind of stable, and
it works. It does work. Right. The economy, much like
the United States, functions on belief. It functions on trust.
And so if you believe you have an economy, and
if you have faith in the currency, you have faith

(48:51):
in the markets, you have faith in the regulatory structure,
you have faith in the safety of the sort of
general business environmronment that you know the intellectual property is protected,
and you know that you can patent things or whatever.
All of these things sort of work on faith much
in the same way the idea of the United States does,
and if you damage that in any substantial way, the

(49:15):
whole thing will collapse. And Trump has has damaged that
in a very substantial way. I mean, you're you know,
you brought up the thing about the dolls. It's not
just that he's so like violently out of touch with
how this impacts people, but he's outright deceptively lying about it.
Here's an example quote. This is Biden's stock market, not Trump's.

Speaker 2 (49:38):
He posted.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Now, you may remember that when the market was climbing
at the end of the last year before the election,
Trump claimed that that was because they were excited for
him to win. And now since inauguration Day, the markets
have all tumbled like a lot. Okay, yeah, bear territory.

(49:59):
He he's uh. Then he went on to say tariffs
will soon start kicking in and companies are starting to
move into the USA and record numbers. That is not
that it's false. It doesn't even make sense else the
way he says that, right, they're not moved. Okay, guys,
this will take a while. Has nothing to do with
the tariffs, he said in all caps. And then he

(50:21):
he said only that he left us with bad numbers
when the boom begins, it will be like no other.
So he's blaming Biden for the for the tumult that
he caused and somehow taking credit for the increases under
Biden's administration. Is it's laughable, right, But it isn't laughable
because to the half of the country, they are believe,

(50:42):
they believe that they're gonna alright, tell you that the
reason that this is what it is is because of Iden.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
I think the polls, though, are starting to shift, and
I know the polls aren't been, but I do think
there's been a decent amount after these hundred days where
there have been shifts where it's clear that people are
like whoa, oh okay, yeah, we are starting to look.

Speaker 1 (51:01):
Around and go, wait a minute, this isn't what I'm.

Speaker 2 (51:04):
I'm tripping. I made a mistake. And a lot of
people who are.

Speaker 1 (51:09):
Saying that, and it's on the two big categories that
were his favorite, immigration and the cration and the economy.

Speaker 2 (51:15):
Yeah, So I maybe I don't because here we always
have known this. We did, but we did this before. Yeah,
but we saw this with Biden right as well, and
they weren't able to articulate the wins that they had.

Speaker 1 (51:28):
But the one of the reasons that we can say
that he.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
That Biden lost it, Kamala Harris eventually lose the election
is because of the economy, right, because Americans feel the
heat of inflation that they have never felt before. Now,
could the Democrats have communicated a little bit differently on
how they went about this? Hell yeah, But I do
think the.

Speaker 1 (51:48):
Economy is still one of those things that will shift
the mindset of people.

Speaker 2 (51:53):
I think it's happening now. And if we get into
June and we look at their shelves, there will be
no one else to blame, at least at the very minimum. Right,
If we take a Latino brothers and sisters who you
know their names, I don't know what Day was thinking,
but anyway, it's whatever, cool we take them.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
If we take the ones that are left, right, they
might be there to have a opinion, might.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
Yeah, right, exactly before me and you, which is kind
of crazy, think weird and then weird how that works.
But we'll still get there. Don't worry, We'll be there.
We'll be there eventually. If you take them. If you
take the business community, which is clear right when if
it's clear when the heads of Walmart when the heads

(52:39):
of lows it's a home depot, and they go when
they right, when they go and still waving like yo,
this is what you're about to see. And we all
know that the way you have to approach this is
you can't come yell and scream at the guy. You
gotta kind of like unfortunately your massage and huge.

Speaker 1 (52:57):
Yeah, you gotta tell them like we agree with your
basic premise here or however the damage is, you know,
it's a little more than you thought.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
Immigration, Right, people agree they want these people deported. They
don't like the way it's being done, right, which is
they didn't like That's that's the thing, right, we don't
I'm not saying that these folks don't want this is
like a horrific thing to happen to these folks. They
just don't like it, right, Because again, I still think
Americans don't want to feel icky about being American.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
Yeah, that's true. We want to we want to be
able to get away with doing horrible ship. But I
feel like we're.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Doing we're doing horrible ship exactly the same way we
want to be able to. We want to have some
other day, you almost we want the government to really
help us and assist us with things, but we wanted
them to make it feel like we did it ourselves.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
That's right, yeah, bootstraps, But it is it is that.
It's also like the going back to your ex problem, right,
is that Trump did this the first time. He damaged
the economy and then he liked to buy the farmers
off essentially, and there's nothing to say that he won't

(54:05):
do that. Now he's got a comply in Congress. They
could just print money and hand it out to people,
uh and say like here, this will offset your your
tariff costs or whatever if there's inflation. That can lie
about it and say like this isn't What if he raises.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Taxes on the ridge.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Yeah, but he well and he talked about that a lot.
But if he does that, that'd be insane. It would
be insane. The whole thing is insane. And the whole
thing is people go against.

Speaker 2 (54:30):
Him for that.

Speaker 1 (54:31):
There's a group of people that will go against him
for that. Yeah. Yeah, but it's what we're what we're
talking about is is the just instability and the lack
of consistent Yes, this is the thing that that like
you might not like what Reagan did, but you knew
where he was on these things. He wasn't flipping and

(54:52):
flopping all over the damn place. You know, you might
not like what Clinton did, but he was consistent in
what he was. You know, the direction was understood. Trump
you don't know, he's just a wild idiot all the time.
But also the I don't really know exactly how to

(55:13):
describe this, but like, the threat isn't just in potential
inflation or recession. It's in like stagflation, which is insane,
which we are like really on the edge of this.
You know, generally inflation tracks with growth. You have growth

(55:33):
that gets out of control, you grow too fast, you
have inflation. You need to slow that down by raising
interest rates, pulling money out of the pool, and just
slow down the overall economy. And so you lose some
jobs in the process of tamping down inflation. And then
the flip side of that, right, if you've got a

(55:54):
problem where you need to jump start the economy, you
need to increase the number of jobs. What you need
to do is inject some money into the economy and
pass it around a little more, and you get it,
you heat it up, and you get it to grow.
When you have a stagflation possibility or scenario. Right, you
are not growing and prices are rising, and the tariffs

(56:18):
are like one of the very few ways to guarantee that.
Now you can end up with stagflation for other reasons,
especially things that can happen external to you. Japan hit
this terrible streak of it for twenty years, and that
they did not do it self injuriously. They didn't mean
to do it. They got stuck between you know, generational shifts,

(56:39):
lack of population and no immigration and some other things
that they were a little overextended in various other markets
or whatever. But like the only way to guarantee this
is do something that is by its nature in nature inflationary,
which is say, raise the prices with tariffs artificially, right,
there's no underlying economic reason for this, and then also

(57:01):
depressed growth by creating enough uncertainty that businesses don't want
to invest, even if they think that they could beat
the terrorists or that they work to their advantage. And
that's exactly the situation we're in. And if Ray was
talking about how we're we're dealing with a couple of
generations that have never really dealt with high interest rates
or like real inflation to the point where we freaked

(57:24):
out about a few percentage point increases. None of us
really has lived through the seventies stagflation and understands what
that's like at all. And but it's devastating. Ask your parents,
you know it is. It is devastating. And I don't
think even your your saint Jerome of of the Bank

(57:48):
of whatever, is going to be able to get us
out of that. I don't know. We need to come
up with a better name for him, but I don't.
I don't. I don't think even Powell could figure that out.
So well, you won't that. But even if we turn
to him, even if we put like him and Larry
Summers and and like BERNANKI and all these guys in
one room and like mind melded them and be like,

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all right, you fucking geniuses, you you nerds of of
economic bullshit.

Speaker 2 (58:15):
Don't forget yelling, yelling.

Speaker 1 (58:16):
Ye, yeah, we need yelling. We need everybody, everybody freedman,
I don't care, uh, dig them up. We'll get Cane's
Adam Smith. Sure, we'll throw them all in there, like
mix them up into this cocktail of economists and like
get them to sprinkle some secret fairy dust on the ship.
Even they couldn't figure that out. Because there's no solution

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out of it. You have to.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Policy, right, like it's sound American policy that has to
come from the Congress.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
Uh the what yeah, I know, sorry, I'm sorry. We
have one one branch, one one party. This is this
is the one one one system party.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
One system party on the non dudes and robes, oh
not do dudes.

Speaker 1 (59:04):
Yeah, all right, speaking of things that we did predict though,
like I want to, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (59:13):
I sent this to Ryan.

Speaker 1 (59:14):
I don't know. I don't know if you can get this,
get this up on the screen. Put it Brian, do
you have the image I sent you for the show?
There you go. So here's my my blue sky tweet
or whatever we call it now posting to Skeet. It's
where I'm not doing that. You can call it that.

Speaker 2 (59:35):
Look, it's Mama named it Skeet.

Speaker 1 (59:38):
God damn it all right. Uh. Third April twenty twenty five,
this chef chip guy posted if retailers like Amazon or
Target had any courage, they would post their prices as
pre and post tariff to show consumers what Trump is
costing them dateline CNBC. President Donald Trump personally called Amazon

(01:00:02):
founder Jeff Bezos on Tuesday to complain about a report
that the online retail giant was considering displaying US tariff
costs on its product listings, a source familiar with the
matter told NBC News. Within hours of the call, Amazon
publicly downplayed the scope of its plan and then announced
that it had been scrapped entirely. The pressure campaign on
Bezos by Trump and the White House came after punch

(01:00:24):
Bowl reported earlier Tuesday that Amazon will soon show consumers
how much an item's cost comes from tariffs. The amount
added as a result of tariffs would be displayed right
next to each product's total price, and then you know,
you could see what it was costing, almost like this
guy on this show predicted. Then Carolyn Levitt came out

(01:00:48):
and gave his press conference. She was like, this is
a hostile act of political sabotage. Why didn't Biden? Why
didn't they post the prices when Biden caused inflation? Like,
oh my god, that's not what happened. You fought more
on God bless her. She's twenty seven. She doesn't know
any better, but like, what a you know, it's one

(01:01:09):
of those things. Is like, uh, if you would think,
if they you would think these people with.

Speaker 2 (01:01:16):
Like fuck you money would move like they have fuck
you money. But then I also am empathetic to the
point that they are afraid at the they're afraid of
the actual fuck you money, which is the federal government.

Speaker 1 (01:01:32):
Yeah, they're afraid not just of like losing aws contracts.
Bezos is afraid of getting thrown into gulag. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:01:40):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:01:41):
Murkowski was very clear about God, yes, she was like
the recent people are fighting back is because they're afraid.
They are afraid. This is this is the Shtazi, this
is the KGB, pick your word for whatever. This is Chavez,
this is this is ho Chi Minh like pick your word, right,
these guys are moved like a dictatorship. Interesting thing. I

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don't know what I was reading where they said that
they were they had been talking to people they know
who had come from autocratic countries and escaped and come
to the United States, and they were describing what they
see happening here with like the pressure on the law firms,
the universities and all of that. They said, we recognize
this very clearly. This looks exactly like the beginning of

(01:02:27):
Erdowan in Turkey or the beginning of Orbon and Hungary
or you know, insert story here that they they know
that they know this story and and here we are.
So yeah, I mean, I look, Bezos is a nerdy,
little prick who wouldn't stand a chance in a prison camp.
So I get it. He's a sissy who's afraid. I guess,

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I mean whatever.

Speaker 2 (01:02:51):
But also with that though, like I mean, we didn't
this didn't even make the show. But let's talk about
CBS is like one of my favorite shows in the
Old Man, sixty minutes, right, and like, and I think
they went on and they they they did show courage,
they were brave.

Speaker 1 (01:03:06):
They went out there and they called out paramount.

Speaker 2 (01:03:09):
Right. But this is also the concept of like when
the big money, these conglomerates, these monopolies are able.

Speaker 1 (01:03:18):
To buy up everything, right, And yeah, like I.

Speaker 2 (01:03:23):
Don't know, the sixty minutes thing was difficult for me
to watch because it's like, oh, the press again is
stifled because not everyone can report on these things. You
can't report on these things Jeff Bezos, right, these government
contracts he has right again, he's not gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
Move like that, but you see it, Akoto, Well, this
is part of your exraclined problem, right, the fact that
we need to have regulation to prevent these mergers from
getting out of control. But it also gives a government
the ability to if they and again the government, this
first government to do this. Yeah, the founders didn't really

(01:04:03):
conceive of this, that the government could be the source
of the malfeasans. But if you have a malign actor
in charge of the government, it could use that regulatory
power for evil. And that is that is I'm not
saying that protecting a merger of billion dollar companies is evil,
but I'm saying that like that kind of thing. You know,

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we've always worked in this world where like all right,
you know, I don't like the government or whatever, but
the regulations, all of those things are like just a
fax man. They should not ever be political, and they
are now, and it is it's a problem. I mean,
here's a good example here where we talked. This is
called the part of the deal. Here. Trump signed an

(01:04:45):
executive order on Tuesday softening the tariffs imported cars and
car parts in a reprieved for the automakers. So and
how did this happen? It happened because the Big Three
called him and you know, worked out a deal and
they were like, hey, man, can you not fuck us
over so bad? And you know that he extracted something

(01:05:06):
from them. Uh, And so if you want to talk
about corporate oligarchy, this is this is the most shiny
example of it. You could possibly imagine Apple Dell, all
these guys calling the White House saying, hey, your your
ship is, you know, ruining our profit making operation. Billionaire

(01:05:28):
a billionaire man, can you help me out? And and
he's like a billionaire, but.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
Yeah, that's what he respects.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
And have the day you voted for. I mean, this
is just like let it happen. I don't know at all.
But but it's like, you're but what people thought they
were voting for. Right, Some of this is just a
lack of a They are not that stupid. The American
people are not that stupid something.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
But they don't have a concept of how this works. Yeah,
you don't have a count of how this works. Again,
what seems simple and easy is oh, egg prices are
so high. This guy again because politics is the art
of persuasion, right, he say, he's very good at persuading me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
The smart lady in the pantsuit told everybody that this
was bullshit and they could have just ary shit. Beyonce
told them this was stupid, and they didn't listen to Beyonce. No,
but the but.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
As my grandmother always says, if you don't hear, you
should feel, and we will now feel collectively as.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
A your grandmother sounds a lot like me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:47):
In this regard.

Speaker 1 (01:06:49):
The original twenty five percent terrist announced in March uh
and then effects since April third were poised to add
an average of six thousand dollars on cars imported from
outside North America and thirty six hundred dollars on vehicles
imported from Canada and Mexico. Then that was gonna go
up when they added all these other tariffs and stuff.
Now that that's been sort of paused, understands.

Speaker 2 (01:07:11):
Though the car, how it's manufactured, and how these parts
go back and forth, how it goes across specifically in
North America, right, But like no one understands that, because
I do think if you were able to break that
down and chunks for people that I wish everybody's listening
to the marketplace every week every day, and no one
does that. But anyways, but if you were able to

(01:07:33):
break I think they do a great job of breaking
it down.

Speaker 1 (01:07:36):
You know who knew that that happens? All of those
auto workers in Michigan, and they voted for that fucking
guy anyway, like they if there's anybody who knows.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
And then what are they battling against? Even as well too, right,
because they're battling against right clean energy. Right, they don't
want batteries, Like they don't want these cars they're not running.

Speaker 1 (01:07:56):
I don't know why they don't want batteries. They feel
factories more jobs building new cars, it is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:01):
But then I guess for what they're doing, right, those
jobs might go to other people. But even with that,
if you didn't like that, the man was was was
backed by the biggest battery maker, which is Tesla.

Speaker 1 (01:08:16):
That's not a yeah, it's it's yeah. So he was
in his camp and that man truly believes in batteries. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
So like even then, it's kind of like to your
point there, it's like, all right, well, even if I
was that person right now, I was like, oh, I
don't want to, but.

Speaker 1 (01:08:29):
Why but he's rocking with Elon Musk.

Speaker 2 (01:08:32):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:08:33):
That's why I'm saying I don't think these people are stupid.
There's nobody in Wisconsin or Michigan or Indiana or anywhere
in the Upper Midwest that doesn't know that these cars
and the that this is an integrated cross border operation.
Everybody knows that. Everybody in Texas knows that most of

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the light trucks in this country are built in Texas,
and you know where, they're partly built in Mexico, And
like the reason and they're built in Texas is because
it's next to Mexico. And like everybody in these places
absolutely knew better and voted this way anyway. So like,
let me get my tiny, tiny violin out for them.
I don't fucking care if it crashes their world. The

(01:09:15):
problem is that we can't undo it because the rest
of the world now think that we collectively as a
country are a bunch of fucking morons, and and we
can't we can't convince them of that. What are we
gonna do, Like, no, no, no, no, we got that
out of our system. We're done doing that. Then we
were like, you said that the last time you fucking
voted for this guy again, Well you can't vote for

(01:09:35):
him again. Yeah, they will, and not only that right.
It's the Churchill quote completely inside out. You can always
count on the Americans to do the right thing after
they've tried everything else. Now you can't. And and that
is that is the thing. We're cooked. The song is done. True.
I don't think that's true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:50):
I think there have been there have been other examples
of this country going backwards to eventually go forward. And
maybe we look at this thirty years from now and
be like, yo, crazy, insane, what we're gonna say at
this point twenty years I guess you could be easily.

Speaker 1 (01:10:13):
Say, how are we going to convince Europe to reorient
and start trading with us again? How are we going
to convince China to buy our soy products when their
whole supply chain is now oriented towards Brazil? At that point,
We're not gonna be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (01:10:27):
I mean again, I think it's almost anti American to
think that way. And I get why you think that way.
The facts lean up that way. Like I get understand that,
but you and your hope he changed bullshit. I'm just
saying this is whole shit is built on that, man,
It's built on that. Like you say, it's hold, it's
a belief system, right, and people are falling. You are falling,

(01:10:49):
you fell out, you don't believe it. It's anymore. No,
I believe in it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:52):
I just I don't like to do it. And we're
not And.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
This right, I mean the biggest pace you got me.
I want to if there are mid terms, that's that's
our first win, right, we gotta start there. If they
are midterm. There will not be mid terms. But see,
how could you just like I wouldn't start with that?

Speaker 1 (01:11:12):
Fine, call me on American. That's fine. Here's what we're
gonna do. We're gonna take a break. When we come back,
we're gonna pretend to be Canadian and talk about them
and see if that changes me. But you're right, I'm
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:11:25):
I'm not.

Speaker 1 (01:11:26):
I'm not singing from the same sheet right now. I'm
in the everybody and that's what I need.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
Everybody, not everybody, but I need folks to buy back
into this is like, oh nah, will we will figure
this out because we've always figured this out. Again, the
whole country is broken up, with a whole society.

Speaker 1 (01:11:45):
I will buy back in when you give me a
coupon for one hundred and forty percent off and then
uh then I'll be right back there in line with you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
Look, you gotta I'm telling you gotta treat treat America
right now now how I treated the commandos when they
was going wow like you know, and check out a
little bit. But yo, you gotta check back in eventually
right there. And the only reason though, this is to
your point, right, the fans who stuck with me through
the hard times, and this is what is.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
The fans who what do you sound like me? I'm
sounding like you. This is.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
Going to fuck Yeah. Maybe maybe you're right. Actually you
know you've cannd me this is over anyways, changed my
mind at that point.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
Whatever, All right, let's take a break. We'll be right back.
We're gonna talk about candy you're listening to down on
radio and beyond.

Speaker 8 (01:12:51):
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old old stupid old stupid old stuff. Tho stupid old,
stupid old stupid hold hold stupid stupid.

Speaker 5 (01:13:09):
Hey, mister human oil over here thinking out line from
a sec.

Speaker 1 (01:13:12):
I guess the words you could do is you might
get upset. So here we go. When did everybody get
to go?

Speaker 5 (01:13:17):
Not so I thought the whole goal was to get
not so like a nine sea, not so right on
the right side of history.

Speaker 1 (01:13:23):
I guess you could wish for a bright.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
Side, but that would be stupid, like making the same mistakes,
like killing brain cells just to save some space.

Speaker 9 (01:13:31):
Stupid, stupid, Hold hold stupid, hold hold stupid, old stupid
old stuff. Thou holdst hold stupid old stupid old stupid old,
stupid old stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:13:42):
They say that stupid, is that stupid? Does? What does
that mean?

Speaker 5 (01:13:45):
If you do something stupid, then stupid? You was getting
above so having a bad weed the time to recharge
the battery, which usually.

Speaker 1 (01:13:51):
Means more stupid decisions.

Speaker 5 (01:13:52):
But great storms, great time and great fun, new traditions,
more bad decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:13:57):
Better stop before you see the prison. Stupid. If you
love to, maybe you could say you were visiting. You
could be stupid in love.

Speaker 9 (01:14:03):
Stupid stupid, those those.

Speaker 10 (01:14:12):
Stupid those, I'm sick of all these witches and warlock
full of shots, pupkin possums.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
Then second then all of it's like because you're lying,
that's why.

Speaker 10 (01:14:31):
Oh there's ergy, and oh now we're done with true
You said he was the Messiah. You said he was invincible.
I will not summer your cube after this.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
I know what you were they going. I know what
you are doing.

Speaker 10 (01:14:43):
Witches and warlot so full of shorts, puking and possums.

Speaker 1 (01:14:47):
Then second.

Speaker 10 (01:14:50):
Then all of it's lost because you're lying. That's why,
goddamn thing out of your people's mouth, and I'm come proved.

Speaker 1 (01:14:57):
You said it was all ours. You tell us the stuff.

Speaker 10 (01:15:06):
Witches and warlocks, you're full of shit, pumpkin popsums.

Speaker 1 (01:15:13):
All of its loss because you're lying. That's what.

Speaker 10 (01:15:17):
Witches and warlocks full of shit pops.

Speaker 1 (01:15:24):
All of it's lots because you're lying. That's why is
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Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
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Speaker 1 (01:15:58):
I gotta trying to cleanse my soul every from laughing
at that, because that Alex Jones is one of my
favorite versions of Alex Jones, that weird shaped beard. I yeah,
I think so he's on something. Poverty might be the thing,
it seems.

Speaker 2 (01:16:18):
That does that does thin out, that is, if anything
thins you out. I learned also that lizard spit is
how we got to the drug of ozempic. Oh yeah, yeah,
well I would hold on. Let me it's a specific
lizard that they found that called I forgot the lizard?

Speaker 1 (01:16:41):
Is that where ozempic comes from?

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
Did the Yes, it comes from the lizard spit.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:16:47):
It's not fake news. Look at I don't have the
full signs on that.

Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
But why not know that I should that that sounds
like the sort of is that that's not the stuff
about the Heue monster?

Speaker 5 (01:16:56):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:16:56):
Hold on, lizard Spitzempe, we're doing some this is great
librradio radio. Yes, it's was inspired by the Gilla monster monster. Yes,
you're correctly.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
I did know this, okay, yes, yeah, maybe I forgot
it briefly and then I remembered it. We have we had,
I think we still do have a few HeLa monsters
in the Reptile House at the Zoo. You can go
see them. I think we do. Yeah, they're big, fat,
chunky looking lizards and they're venomous, which is which is great.

Speaker 2 (01:17:33):
It is basically their their venom or I guess the
hormone and their venom it basically suppresses appetite.

Speaker 1 (01:17:42):
Yeah right, that's the uh the what do they call that?
Not the well g P one is like the category
of them.

Speaker 2 (01:17:53):
Yes, that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:17:56):
Okay, Well anyway, let's uh, let's talk about conn our
neighbors to the north. So there they have a capital.
It's called Ottawa, which is very fun to say Ottawa.
They have a they have nominally, they have a hockey team.
They are called the Senators. I believe they're actually playing

(01:18:16):
the Leaves tonight. I have not checked the score, and
as the battle for Ontario in in Canada, and that's
how they they decide who gets to be the next
Prime Minister of Canada. Is they have the Sens play
the Leafs and then when they both lose, they pick
somebody from Edmonton. No, I'm kidding, we have elections. It's

(01:18:39):
not far off from that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:41):
He's a he's not a favorite with the Canadians right now.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Yeah, we have a score update.

Speaker 11 (01:18:55):
So the Battle of Canada or pretty much the battle
for Ontario Ontario. So it looks like Toronto will it
be be dancing. So they defeated Ottawa Florida two.

Speaker 1 (01:19:09):
There is nothing worse than hopeful Leafs fans. They're they're
a miserable set. But uh, I mean, look, we did
our job, knocked out the other Canadian team that was
still in the Halves are gone, go home, back to
Montreal wherever that is.

Speaker 11 (01:19:25):
Yeah, so Toronto will be facing Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:19:28):
So that'll be good, better them than us.

Speaker 2 (01:19:31):
Yes, yeah, I don't want to Florida.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Look but we got we got the Canes. I'm not
thrown about that.

Speaker 2 (01:19:38):
I would rather that than the Ice Cats.

Speaker 1 (01:19:41):
Yeah. Well they had a tough time with Tampa, sompa.
I didn't want to play Tampa either, exactly. Let them
battle it out for them. San Luis the coach of
the Halves. Now anyway, Florida Florida fight for hockey, which
is all right, the Battle of Florida hockey. Okay, So

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speaking of hockey, let's talk about Canada. So, Canada is
a parliamentary system. They have a prime minister, right, they
vote for party. They don't vote for their individual. Well,
they do vote for their for their individual MP, but
they checked the box for the party. And it's very
similar to Britain in that regard. And there's two main parties, right,

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There's the Liberals, which is Justin Trudeau's party, and then
there is the Conservatives, I think is what they call themselves.
They had some other name briefly, but let's just call
him that. And basically going into this, let's go over
it was over for the Liberals. Yeah, let's go back

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to like the mid summer. Okay. By the middle of
the summer in twenty twenty four, Justin Trudeau was wildly unpopular.
He had I'm not sure what exactly he did to
like offend all of the Canadians, but he did it.
And keep in mind, these are Canadians. They are by
default deferential. They will give you way more ground than

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you deserve on anything. And Justin Trudeau still like pissed
him off. And so the polls were really unfavorable. They
were showing that the Liberals were going to get beaten
by like twenty percentage points. It was going to be
an absolute drubbing. And Trudeau did the thing that he
had to do, which was resign, right, he announced that
he was stepping down and until they had an inter

(01:21:35):
party election or intra party election, whatever they call it,
and the Liberals chose this guy called Mark Carney as
their new prime minister. So Trudeau stepped down and Carney
took over. You may know this guy's name because he
was in charge. He's Canadian, right, So he was in

(01:21:57):
charge of the Bank of Canada during the recession, and
then he also ended up being in charge of the
Bank of England during Brexit. Basically as they went into Brexit,
they were.

Speaker 2 (01:22:08):
Like, hey, we need somebody to figure the central banker
for chaos and pandemonium, right, Yeah, they bring him in
when is going a little awry or you're dealing with
something as a country that he's the fixer, right.

Speaker 1 (01:22:19):
So he's and before that he had a career on
Wall Street. He worked for Goldman and a bunch of
other places. I mean, the guy it's not like a
slotch but he's he's no like political genius. I think
it's his first run for office. Yeah, he had never
held any real political office. He'd only been appointed to things,
and so he ends up as a sort of like

(01:22:39):
caretaker prime minister. And knowing that there's gonna be an
election that they're gonna have to have. Exactly when it is,
they don't know because it's Parliament, they can call the
elections whenever, but there's a certain cutoff point that's coming up.
And basically his job at that point was to like
get to the point and then lose. He's gonna lose

(01:23:00):
matter what. They're gonna go into the election and the
Liberals are gonna get trounced. And then and then Trump
gets elected here in the States and immediately starts like
bashing the shit out of Canada. He's talking about, Oh,
we're gonna take them over, We're gonna make them the
fifty first state. He kept calling Justin Trudeau, who was
still Prime Minister, governor Governor Trudeau, and like all the

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Canadians were like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa whoa. We can
you know, complain about the maple syrup, but you can't
complain about the maple syrup. And they they were like, no,
fuck you, We're not gonna be the fifty first state.
And and so Carney like seizes on this and he

(01:23:46):
starts his campaign about elbows up right and in hockey right,
if you're playing with your elbows up, you're you're sort
of making a point that like, don't come near me.
You know, if you try to check me, you're gonna
get the elbow. And that resident a very strongly with
with all of the Canadians and his opponent, Pierre Pierre. Yeah,

(01:24:08):
p p p. I didn't want to go there, had
had until the second Trump was calling for and got
elected and was calling for Canada to become the fifty
first state. He was being like Canadian Trump. He is
from Alberta, which is like Canadian Texas, and he was

(01:24:29):
telling everybody, He's like, yeah, we're gonna be an oil
producing country with they're already an we're gonna burn all
the forests. We're gonna We're gonna, yeah, we're gonna We're
gonna they're already burning. Yeah, we're gonna go fight the Chinese.
We're gonna uh uh, you know, find the three black
people in Canada and locked them up to and and

(01:24:50):
like he he was doing all of the stuff. He
was like like slightly French Trump, and he had a
bit like a lot of support. They had these these
you know, trucker rallies where they were barking up traffic
in Ottawa and like, you know, vaccine hesitancy and like,
and keep in mind this is all like Canadian flavored stuff, right,
So when Canadian conservatives are all riled up, they're still

(01:25:14):
not going to let go of their universal health care
and they're still not going to like be like, oh,
well we should give handguns to children. They're not going
to do those things, but but they are going to
be like, well, I think that, uh you know, I
will strongly consider maybe not raising attacks on forestry for
bears or I don't know what policies they have in Canada,

(01:25:37):
they like aren't moose able to vote there. So anyway,
Pierre is like all of a sudden caught between like
acting like Trump for all this time and Trump talking
about like annexing his whole fucking country, and he doesn't
have a solution, he doesn't have an answer, he doesn't
know how to how to get out of that. And

(01:25:59):
Carnean like, see that guy, that's Trump, He's the same
as the guy who wants to take over your country.
And all of Canada was like, oh hell no, except
they're Canadians, so they're like, oh hell no, no, I'm sorry,
they're Canadians.

Speaker 2 (01:26:14):
They don't say hell, they say h e and double hockey.

Speaker 1 (01:26:17):
Stick h double hockey sticks. Now, Canadians cuss a lot,
actually they they love to cuss uh in Quebec, they're like,
you know, and then so also ever, if you ever
run into a Cheminquah and get them to try to
pronounce the word tequila, it's very difficult for them. They
can't seem to say tequila, and you'll never know what

(01:26:38):
they're ordering. It's it's hilarious. Come with me to the
curling club and when I'm working the bar one time,
you'll see what happens. But all right, so Carni like
swings this and he wins the election, and he wins
not with a giant majority or anything, but he wins,
you know, pretty substantially handily won. Yeah, right, so that's sorry.

(01:27:00):
It's not just that he won, it's that he swung
the vote by twenty five points in in in favor
of the Liberals. And this easy slam dunk against it's
it's Canada. This easy open net goal becomes oh no,
some of the best dunker was in Toronto Raptors. Right, Uh, yeah, Vince,
But he wasn't Canadian. It's not like Drake is out here,

(01:27:24):
duncan well maybe anyway, Oh god, I didn't like myself
for that joke. But yeah, so after after missing the
easy open net, they like, you know, Carney's in charge.
Now he's still in charge. He's continuing being Prime Minister,

(01:27:47):
so hooray. I guess we still can't run there, like
they're not accepting refugees yet, but yeah, and.

Speaker 2 (01:27:55):
I wonder as well too. It'd be interesting to see
what their new found Canadian like because I don't I
don't know. I never thought of them to be like
heavy into nationalism, but it does feel that it's shifting.

Speaker 1 (01:28:09):
Uh. Canadians are nationalistic in comparison to places like they
really don't like being mistaken for Americans. For example, when
they're traveling overseas and people hear their accents, they and
they you know, they don't know any better. They go like, oh, well,
you know American. They're like, uh uh Canadian, even.

Speaker 2 (01:28:32):
Though every everybody is technically American.

Speaker 1 (01:28:35):
Yeah, but they but they say North America. They don't
call us America. They call us the States.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Because it's disrespectful that we've been able to take over
America because America is a specific.

Speaker 1 (01:28:48):
I don't know, I kind of like it. But anyway,
talking about man is insane whatever, all those other.

Speaker 2 (01:28:55):
Kinds of Americans.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
But they, yeah, they're I mean, they're pretty like pro
Canadian and you might not really know it, but like
their economy is pretty nationalistic, like they've got all these
dairy tariffs and stuff to like protect their own industries.
And you know, they're sort of quirky about like certain things,
like they all have to learn French even though none
of them likes it, and they they love their anthem

(01:29:21):
despite the fact that they're willing to change the words
to the damn thing, Like could you couldn't imagine Americans
being willing to change the words to the Star Spangled banner.
And that's a problem. Yeah, that is a problem. I'm
not saying we should the same thing with the Constitution.

Speaker 2 (01:29:37):
Maybe we should rewrite it new constitution convention, Constitution convention.

Speaker 1 (01:29:43):
Just maybe not open up that can of worms. Not
right now, I don't know, Like eventually it's gonna have
to happen. Well, when we split and make new country. Yeah,
but that's or.

Speaker 2 (01:29:56):
Bring back the country that we had, and we have
to do it. Anyways, it's there for a reason. The
mechanisms are in the Constitution for a reason.

Speaker 1 (01:30:03):
Okay, you're right three fists of the time. So let's
not get that. I don't want to. I don't I
don't want to take that risk. These these fucking naga
guys can't like safely administer parking meters and you got
to let them blacked out. Ah, okay, So Carney wins, right,

(01:30:25):
and you think, okay, this is like a black eye
for Trump or whatever. He caused one of his buddies
to fail. No, what does he do. He takes credit
for it. He calls up. First of all, he didn't
want to call and congratulate Carni, but then eventually he does.
He calls him up. And here's the story from the Independent. Uh,
even though his support was to kiss of death for

(01:30:47):
Canada's Conservatives, Donald Trump himself apparently couldn't help it taking credit. Quote,
you know, until I came along, Remember that the Conservative
was leading by twenty five points, he said, or boasted.
I guess when he was talking to the Atlantic, Yes,
jeff Jeffrey and Jeffrey Goldbert. He was rolling about when

(01:31:07):
Mark Wallas including in the.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
And it's very It was very interesting to hear the
breakdown of that Oval Office interview and how because again
he's only about the person who's in front of him
at the point, And how do you make that person
a fan?

Speaker 1 (01:31:26):
Yeah? Right, that's all he cares about.

Speaker 2 (01:31:28):
Man, He's like, there's no ideological like, there's nothing that's
that a G. Reagan or any of these folks who
have like an ideology of like what they want to know.

Speaker 1 (01:31:37):
This man is about.

Speaker 2 (01:31:39):
He's trying to win the minute, the second, the minute,
the hour, good day, all the time. It's very it's
and he's he's great at it too, which.

Speaker 1 (01:31:52):
Is very Then, right, aren't you just wants to live
for the moment like Donald Trump lives for the moment.
He's in it. It's crazy. He can't think past the
end of it. But so then yeah, so he says
that he took credit and then he goes then then
I was disliked by enough of the Canadians that I've
thrown the election into a close call. I didn't even
know it was a close call, he added. I say

(01:32:16):
it would make a great fifty first state. I love
other nations. I love Canada. You know they do ninety
five percent of their business with us. Remember, if they're
a state, there's no tariffs.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
What jeff Golberg, Jeffrey Goldberg is talking about this story,
and he said, and at a certain point we had
to move him off of this because it just wasn't like,
it wasn't making any sense.

Speaker 1 (01:32:36):
Yeah, he just loops though, right he doesn't. You can
just like set him going and then he's like like
a top. All right, let's see some immigration updates. So
down in El Salvador where our neighbor, mister Abrego Garcia
is being held, he's apparently been moved out of Seacott

(01:32:58):
into differ front place called the Santa Anna Industrial the
central Industrial prison in Santa Anna where they get to
wear Yello T shirts and build stuff, uh and and
raise cows and chickens and stuff. I mean, it's it's
a prison farm, is what it is. You know, it's

(01:33:20):
slave labor, I think is the appropriate word for that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Because when we get to this part, didn't the person
who gives a quote is not only the warden, but
the directory you everything there.

Speaker 1 (01:33:31):
At that point, he's a government call some quote trusted inmates.
Let's see, we only house the common population, said Samuel Diaz,
the prison's director and ward. No gang members work here.
Oh okay, cool, Well then I guess we'll just take
your word for it. Then everything's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
A person of like over a business, right, So to
your the prison is a full of business, not only
the ward I've never heard of that the warden been considered.

Speaker 1 (01:33:56):
The director maybe private prisons here. I guess, well, you know,
if you think about like a prison farm or you know,
the prison industrial complex and all of the production that
goes on with prisons. Yeah, sure, why not? So, like
they say, he's moved, okay, I think this is all

(01:34:16):
like a way for them to try to get him
out of there and save face on the wrong clearly.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
And I don't know who's gonna First of all, they're
gonna let him like he's time, time is served, They're
gonna yeah, and then some American plane will bring him back.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Yeah. I think that's I I think that's very clear.
I mean, I know wins for the court, though, Is
that a win for the courts if that happened. No,
because they're not following what the court said. They should
have done this properly, you know, on the this is
a way for them to kick the constitutional crisis down
the road a little bit and not have to admit
that the courts told them what to do.

Speaker 2 (01:34:53):
I the fact, if he comes, I thought they would
dig their heels in on this and not there would
not be any chance to come.

Speaker 1 (01:35:01):
Well, you might have thought that until today, when a
judge in Texas that was appointed by Donald Trump ruled
that the Alien Enemies Act is not legitimate. You can't
use that when we're not at war. Nobody in Venezuela
has invaded the United States, and so he has. He's

(01:35:23):
ruled that those detentions and deportations were illegal, and he's
also ruled that they can't use this going forward. Now,
I'm sure this will be appealed, but it's not stayed
at the moment, so it is currently holding as you
can't use this thing anymore, which then starts to ask
the question, what do you do about the people who
have already been deported as a result of this, like
the change would cancer? Yeah, well, Jesus fucking Christ, dude, Yeah, yes, yes, yes,

(01:35:51):
let me see if I can unring the bell. No,
it doesn't work that way, So that's that's the thing. Yeah,
I mean we have this where that goes A lot
still to be adjudicated on that, but yeah, I think that.
I mean, I was talking to somebody today who is like,
this guy, you know, Brego Garcia is not the the

(01:36:14):
poster child that you might want him to be, or
at least so some people think. I'm not totally sure.

Speaker 2 (01:36:19):
I think. I think that's because people have super misinformation.
I was told that as well. And when I did
the research before I was knee deep into this, I
didn't I didn't have much and it's like, oh, before
our last show actually, when we were talking about this,
I was like, well, no, he's clearly the poster child
for this because number one, even if you think he's

(01:36:40):
a gang member, right, the due process still needs to happen.
And a court had said the one place he could
not go back to is the place that we sent
him to.

Speaker 1 (01:36:52):
Yeah. And also what seems to keep getting overlooked is
that the allegations that were made in court about him
person right, Yeah, and the Pece County cop who's currently
in jail for shaking down prostitutes. So not the best source.
But the reason I brought this up is that the
guy was telling me this he's like, yeah, I don't
think he's like the best person, but I don't like

(01:37:13):
this this lack of do process, you know. And he's
a conservative guy who was saying this to me, so
I you know, it's like cause, but he doesn't want
to done this way correct. Yes, So, speaking of people
misunderstanding how this goes, this incredible thing happened with Trump

(01:37:35):
and this interview with Terry Moran of ABC News. So
Moran's got this this Oval office interview. It's an exclusive,
it's a big deal, and he's running through his questions
with Trump, and somehow Trump gets onto this thing about

(01:37:56):
Abrego Garcia having MS thirteen tattooed on his hand, and
I was like, wait a minute, that's not a real thing.
And I remembered seeing like a brief mention of this
somewhere and then and then he was like holding up
pictures of it. And so then I found this story

(01:38:17):
as comes from Forbes, and you know, the liberal rag Forbes.
I'm just gonna read this because this is really difficult
to like understand. Trump insisted Tuesday a photoshopped image of
Kilmar Brego Garcia, who the administration has admitted was mistakenly

(01:38:38):
deported to El Salvador proves that he's an MS thirteen
gang member, doubling down on a conspiracy that the president
promoted earlier this month on social media. In a contentious
exchange with ABC News as Terry Moran, he insisted that
Moran agree with him that Brego Garcia had MS thirteen
tattooed above his knuckles, citing an obviously doctored image that

(01:39:00):
Trump shared twice on social media earlier this month to
prove that he was a member of the gang, despite
scant evidence, no criminal record in the US, and his
lawyers and family members denying any gang affiliation. So if
you're looking at the screen here, what you're seeing is
this picture that I think that's Trump's tiny hand holding
it or somebody's tiny hand holding it. I don't I

(01:39:27):
don't know how to describe this. It's as if somebody
took MS paint and just like inserted textbox over the
fingers and typed in in like I don't know what
to call it helvetica, you know, like some really basic

(01:39:48):
font the letters MS and the numbers one three, it's thirteen, yes,
right exactly a little more research into this bit, I
think I understand. I was able to trace this through
the conspiracy. There is somebody who believes that the actual

(01:40:10):
tattoos that he has, Brian, if you've got the image again,
that you'll see there's like a weed leaf and like
a smiley face and then a cross and then a
skeleton that those correspond to the letters MS thirteen. And
so they were showing how these things correspond, which again

(01:40:32):
there's no evidence that they do, and they were like
demonstrating that with the image, and so they wrote Ms
thirteen across the top as if they were showing that
somebody clipped that image and misrepresented it as this is
what his actual tattoos are. I don't personally have any tattoos,

(01:40:52):
but I know a lot of people who do. None
of them are that clear, and they don't look like
that's not what a tattooed. It doesn't float above your skin,
for example. So I was I was shocked that anybody
would be dumb enough to fall for this, let alone,

(01:41:14):
if you're like Trump's people, how are you letting him
repeat this? You know he's stupid enough to fall for it.
You can't let him see that, right, I.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Mean, don't they say that in there it's like if
they if Trump thinks it's that, then that's what they believe, right, Like,
I think it's kind of that's in the sense, right,
I think that's what his advisor and the staff like.
Are they gonna go challenge this?

Speaker 1 (01:41:38):
Yeah, no, they're not right. So once once, dear leader
says it, it's gospel truth, even if it's ridiculous. Stalin
with other people like this, Sure, yeah, stupid Stalin told you.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
The one thing I think we'll look back on the
fifty years will be like, oh my god, thank god
it was and a smarter individual who figured this out.

Speaker 1 (01:42:02):
I swear that is how we look back on this.

Speaker 2 (01:42:05):
Imagine if this person actually, like if they had like
a belief system. This guy's have a belief system, which
might be the only saving grace, but we're gonna feel
a lot of pain.

Speaker 1 (01:42:15):
A charming, charismatic, funny guy, which he is he is,
that's all those things. It's ultru who has a belief
system and the radio show co hosted by a guy
called test like it could be that he could be that.

Speaker 2 (01:42:34):
Well, we already have the blueprint now and all the
all the norms are gone.

Speaker 1 (01:42:37):
You are the only ones standing between me and my
benevolent dictatorship.

Speaker 2 (01:42:41):
I'm gonna be Mike Pence. Obviously, this is what's gonna happen.
Mike Pence.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
Well, I do not allow you to run for another Uh,
but I tell you that the election was not stolen.
There's so much in that sentence. I can't even handle that.
Absolutely not, no, No, all the listeners strike dead from

(01:43:09):
the record, no.

Speaker 2 (01:43:12):
Live will be the clip.

Speaker 1 (01:43:16):
Just hanging around on that one. Oh, don't let mother know.

Speaker 2 (01:43:29):
The thin white string between love and hate.

Speaker 1 (01:43:34):
Just flying right out there. Huh. I don't like any
of this. What's the opposite of proud. I'm ashamed of us.
I'm proud and ashamed. That's the word, Brian. Feel free

(01:43:57):
to cut us off before we get ourselves in even
more trouble.

Speaker 2 (01:44:00):
This might go over well with you know. Actually no,
that will not, thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:44:14):
All right, let's you want to talk about the lack
of security. This this isn't exactly a tes talk, but
it is a thing that you know a bit about,
having worked, you know, election things, and knowing about that,
so you know, the federal government gives money to the states.

(01:44:35):
The states run elections. We should we should state that
from the very beginning. The Constitution sets it up that
the elections are administered by the states. Uh. Congress has
a role in terms of that. It can pass UH,
it can appropriate money for the states to or to
give to the states to help them run these elections,
and it can set certain rules regarding like eligibility, you know,

(01:45:00):
for certain stuff. But the states run the elections, So
the federal government gives money to the states for them
to use for election security, in particular, because it's expensive
and states have to balance their budget. The Feds don't,
And so the Feds can print money and give it

(01:45:22):
to the states for them to buy new equipment, to
get training, to harden their systems, you know, if they've
already got them.

Speaker 2 (01:45:29):
And all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:45:30):
And you know, through successive administrations, this has never really
been an issue at all. Everybody just sort of understands
they get this check, they go buy new stuff from Yeah, right,
it's a subsidy for those guys. But now with Trump,

(01:45:52):
he's like, oh, I want the states to run elections
a certain way, which is to say, the White way,
and they don't want to do that because it's illegal.
And he is now openly talking about withholding this money
that is again appropriated by Congress from the states, if
they don't do elections the way that he wants it

(01:46:13):
to go, it's probably illegal. Like he keeps losing in
court on all these other things where he's violating the
statute in terms of how Congress has appropriated the money
or created an agency or insert thing here, because he
just keeps like Donald Trump is losing in court like
Nick Cannon at a paternity hearing. It's it's just over

(01:46:33):
and over and over again. But I don't know, do
you ever read on this? I mean, the question ends
up being in for a variety of these things. Right,
If the federal government doesn't fill in the coffers, then
who does?

Speaker 2 (01:46:52):
Right? Right? Does he go unsecured? Yeah, I doesn't go unsecured.
Do do you force states to remove money from let's say,
childcare if they have that like for something, or roads
because like firefighters, because.

Speaker 1 (01:47:10):
Elections need to happen, or maybe it won't be elections,
So this doesn't This is a new point, right, Yeah,
maybe that's the case. See I'm crazy.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
I do wander though, right if this money, like I
assume this money goes to like people who work the
polls right as well too, like in the sense of
like like if you're securing the like the actual product,
that's yeah, it.

Speaker 1 (01:47:37):
Pays for the things that that allow basic function of
the election, you know, whether it's moving the machines around
or whether it's yeah, paying for the staffing or a
smart way.

Speaker 2 (01:47:52):
To kill democracy right like fully on right, it's a
really smart way because you pull out the federal government
funding some of this stuff. Then yeah, depending on who
fills it in or if it doesn't get filled in,
you get to your end goal of making it less
likely or let's just say this shakes the confidence of

(01:48:13):
the voters in that that's the thing.

Speaker 1 (01:48:15):
It doesn't you know, these people aren't really interested in
necessarily rigging an election or stopping it from happening, or
they're just trying to make it seem like it's bullshit. Yeah,
if you can muddy it up to the point where
people think that the elections are all just garbage anyway,
then you can claim that they're garbage and then just
like snatch power and like, yeah, the elections are fake anyway, whatever,

(01:48:38):
and so you have to successively damage the confidence in
the election. They've been doing it since twenty sixteen. With
regards to this calling things rigged, it's that it's.

Speaker 2 (01:48:48):
Exactly I do wonder right with the main secretary of state? Yeah, right,
in the Colorado secretary of state. Will that actually breed
more confidence that they say we're not taking the money? Right?
Maybe it goes in the opposite way. Maybe the state
can go out there and say, hey, we did not
take this money. It's not gonna help them necessarily, but

(01:49:11):
maybe in the court of public opinion in those states,
you might feel like, oh, well we didn't take the state,
we didn't take the federal money. Maybe we are a
more secure You almost mean to say that they are
a more secure election by not taking the money.

Speaker 1 (01:49:24):
Well, imagine the money.

Speaker 2 (01:49:25):
It's a stipulation, right.

Speaker 1 (01:49:27):
Yeah, imagine if the money came from some private entity
instead of the government. You would you would then say, oh,
well they paid for this. That entity is controlling the election,
you know, because what are that private what are that private?

Speaker 2 (01:49:41):
Companies? Like, not only are we going to secure the elections,
We're gonna pay We're gonna pay off all the ubers
in that state. And if you need to go to
the poll, you put in this promo code and then
you can go there, you can come back.

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
Well. The reason I say that's a problem is is like, imagine,
let's say here in Virginia. Right, Let's say Virginia, uh
got Dominion just walks into Richmond and hands Virginia check
and says, here's a couple million dollars for you to
secure your elections from the good folks at Dominion Energy.

(01:50:14):
What would Virginia voters think of that? We would we
would say, oh, this is Dominion buying the election.

Speaker 2 (01:50:20):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
So if you if the Trump people are malevolent actors
in the first place, and they say this money. We
have to give you this money, but we you know,
it comes with our stipulations on it, you might think, oh,
if you take the money, like Trump's buying the election,
He's rigging the election using using federal dollars but under
his control to buy the election, so you might not

(01:50:44):
trust it. In which case, Maine and Colorado look smart
to not take the money because they're they're saying, we're
not We're not gonna, you know, be beholden to this guy.
On the other hand, like what you were saying is like,
is there a room for philanthropy to come in and
sort of fix this. How could they do it without
looking like they're trying to put their thumbs to Bloomberg
come in and do some shit like that. Yeah, But

(01:51:05):
then people would say, oh, well, it's Bloomberg's election, he's
buying it, you know, he's got an agenda, he's and
is there like a completely neutral actor that could give
the money, And that's no. The answer is no. And
that's what the federal government's supposed to be, is like
when it comes to these kinds of things, the neutral
actor that just says, like this, we don't have a
dog in this fight. We're just paying for the security.

(01:51:28):
But now they're not.

Speaker 2 (01:51:30):
And let's just say now that record, let's say that
they're one of the like unintended consequences that this is
long lines, right, we already have issues with, aren't.

Speaker 1 (01:51:39):
Like some states have huge issues with their elections.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Maybe states that didn't have issues end up having new
issues with that, and then that does give back to
the initial thing.

Speaker 1 (01:51:48):
Well, and not to mention, you've got all these states
where where the mag of people damaged a bunch of machines,
you know, in their quest to prove the.

Speaker 2 (01:51:59):
You know boxes.

Speaker 1 (01:52:01):
Yeah, and so there's like a lot of like actual
repairs and infrastructure that needs to be rebuilt and paid for.
So like we're only talking about fifteen million dollars, it's
not a very large amount of money when it gets
distributed to all the states. I mean, like here in Maine,
for example, it's two hundred and seventy three thousand dollars.
It's it's not that much money in terms of like

(01:52:23):
what it can buy, but it's just sort of indicative
of like you know, using the levers of the basic
function to advance a political Agenditay, it is literally weaponizing
the government, which is the thing that he said he
wasn't gonna do. Every every accusation is an admission by
these people. Correct, this goes on.

Speaker 2 (01:52:45):
This one's called this ain't good.

Speaker 1 (01:52:48):
Two members of Elon's doge we're given access to a
couple of important networks. Their names are Luke Ferrator and
Adam Ramatta. They couldn't get Adam holiday in because you know,
it costs too much. Luke Ferrator, by the way, is

(01:53:12):
twenty three years old and was an intern at SpaceX.

Speaker 2 (01:53:15):
He's never actually had a job.

Speaker 1 (01:53:17):
So they're they're they're working for Doge and MPR broke
this story. Now, the Department of Energy people don't know this.
Scott Perry certainly didn't know that. Or Scott Perry, what
the hell is he named? Is?

Speaker 2 (01:53:32):
No, that's the Pennsylvania guy.

Speaker 1 (01:53:35):
Perry.

Speaker 2 (01:53:36):
What the hell is his name?

Speaker 1 (01:53:39):
Tom? Maybe one of the Texas Texas Perry, the oops guy. Yeah, oops,
I can't remember his name, Rick Perry. There you go. Okay, So,
like when he became Secretary of Energy, he's like, oh,
they managed the nuclear stuff, and.

Speaker 2 (01:54:02):
Yeah, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Dog crap report. Yeah, doggy crap report, Doggie. I love that. Yes,
Brian's killing it with the graphics. So the Department of
Energy has responsibility to manage the nuclear stockpile and also
the nuclear arsenal. And there are several of these networks

(01:54:30):
that are necessary, you know, for that that allow the
various laboratories to talk to each other, the various other nuclears.
I don't actually know very much about what they do,
and that's kind of by design, right. But what NPR
broke was the story that these two Doge guys were
given user names on these two networks. One of the
networks is called one of them is Supernet, which I

(01:54:54):
actually I do know what that is.

Speaker 10 (01:54:56):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:54:56):
And then the other one is the NSA Enterprise Secure Network,
which is used to transmit detailed restricted data about the
nuclear weapons designs and the special nuclear materials used in
the weapons, among other things. They were given usernames for this.
Now NPR breaks the story that they got user names.

(01:55:18):
They go to Department of Energy and they say, hey,
we know that these guys have usernames. Do you have
a comment on this? And here was the actual response
from Department of Energy quote, this reporting is false. No
DOGE personnel have restricted have access to these and NSA systems.
The two DOGE individuals in question worked within the agency
for several days and departed DOE in February.

Speaker 2 (01:55:41):
Which I don't necessarily not believe, because the way this
operates is that a BET person might not They might
have been told or thought that that is not the case.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
Correct Later, in a second statement later Monday evening, this
book's also well clarified that the accounts had been created,
but said that they were never used by the DOGE
stafford quote, DOE is able to confirm that these accounts
in question were never activated and have never been access
I need.

Speaker 2 (01:56:11):
A picture that says never have signed in, Like in
all these all these types of accounts and things like
that you go into an admin portal.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
If that is the case, there's going to be something
that says this person is never signed in.

Speaker 2 (01:56:20):
If you're going to.

Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Say that, here's but here's the thing, right. I talked
to some people I know who have a lot of
experience in these types of networks, and some of them
even have access to to some of these networks. They
characterize the fact that these guys had user names is
kind of a nothing burger because lots of people have

(01:56:43):
user names, and like, you know, it's a it's a
clerical thing that they're about to access. Yeah, like yeah, yeah,
So like you know, you get hired, you get a
user name, do you ever use it? Maybe not, you
don't even know that you have it, you know, like
it's just there and that within and as NP our
story reported that even within these networks, things are all

(01:57:04):
kind of like on a need to know basis anyway,
So just because you have access in the network doesn't
mean you have access to anything specific in there, so
you might still you know, like even if they did
use these user names, they might not have seen anything
or whatever. That is true, and that is important to
keep in mind. But the question is why did Doe
deny that this had happened, only to then later confirm

(01:57:28):
that it did. And that creates a credibility gap that
is a big problem, you know, And like I work
for a big company where we get asked questions that
we don't know the answers to pretty frequently. Again we
say all the time, I don't know, I'll go find
out and I'll get back to you. That could have

(01:57:48):
been a legitimate response to NPR and especially if they
were able to get confirmation that yes, these guys did
have but never access to anything, they could have said
that they didn't and I and it might be a
nothing that this could be nothing, And there's legitimate reasons
why auditors might need access within systems that they're auditing.

(01:58:13):
Totally fair, But why did they lie about it? And
that that that is or why did they why do
they misrepresent it? I don't think maybe lie is not
the right world. Why did they claim categorically this is
false instead of saying we don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:58:29):
And the whole dose thing, right is a data grab? Right?
This is the yeah, the whole thing is. That's all
it's been about.

Speaker 1 (01:58:37):
And it'd be interesting to see how this comes back
to fuck us later. Well, all of this stuff that
they're seizing is one hundred percent going to pop out
on the other end having been sold. There's there's no
way I believe that the dose people have you know,
proper intentions in mind. Again to our discussion about like
trust and faith, like security clearance is especially young people

(01:59:01):
who really don't have much of a background at all,
it's easy for them to get a clearance because they
haven't done anything wrong. They haven't done anything at all.
And like, for the most part, when you have junior
staff who get these clearances, you're you know, all the
people that vouch for them are like, yeah, well, because
of course they want to do the right thing. That's

(01:59:21):
why they got this job, and they did all that.
But that's not why these guys have this job. You know,
they're not planning to make a career working at Dewey.
They're in here to get get their money and get out.
And so like, you know, the reason clearances work is

(01:59:42):
because the people who get them want to keep them
or they want to you know, they want to continue
to do that kind of specific work. But it is
totally possible to get a clearance, get access to something,
and sell all that stuff right away if you ever
have any intention of like persisting in that career or

(02:00:04):
or like being legal again, right, if if you're gonna
fly to Malta and disappear, you might do something like that.
I mean, look at that guy to share a you know,
he got access as a National Guard member and then
like shared it to all his buddies on his stupid
gamer website or whatever you know, or Snowden or any
of these guys.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
So at least with those right, which again we can
go back and forth around the free speech and like
the government like protecting secrets to stef and there, but
even specifically with Snowden, right to share, maybe not as much,
but maybe some is that, I mean, what is it
Chelsea Manning as well?

Speaker 1 (02:00:43):
Right, I think it's another one. Like the idea was
that they.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
Felt the government was doing something wrong and they felt
that they wanted to put it out there.

Speaker 1 (02:00:54):
This is not the case. No, No, these people aren't
motivated by any kind of idea ill at all. They're
motivated by their names. Are fucking big balls okay, like
r username. Yeah, it's not Uh these guys aren't. They're
not driven by virtue. Let's just say, uh, speaking of

(02:01:14):
people who have no virtue at all. RFK aout. Yeah.
Uh so this segment is called the RFK murder Tour. Now.
I want to be clear when I say that, I
mean it's because RFK is killing people with his policies.
I don't mean it figuratively. I don't mean it in like,

(02:01:35):
uh you know, haha way.

Speaker 2 (02:01:37):
I mean autism on people.

Speaker 1 (02:01:40):
Man. Yes, Robert F. Kennedy is giving people autism.

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
No, Robert F.

Speaker 1 (02:01:46):
Kennedy Junior is using policy to end the lives.

Speaker 2 (02:01:52):
Of Americans and not again nominated by the one president
and who did the most unthinkable thing with a vaccine
which has put it out in ten months.

Speaker 1 (02:02:07):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:02:08):
It's still baffling that the man didn't lean full into that.

Speaker 1 (02:02:14):
And be like, I saved the country, I saved the economy.
If it would have wanted a rushmore, that was his
chance to do it another four years.

Speaker 2 (02:02:21):
He could have ran into the sunset as well, so
he would have got canned because the inflation was still hit,
because they would have still printed money.

Speaker 1 (02:02:27):
But he could have still left a two year term.
There was a way to do this. Yeah, can't get
out of his own way.

Speaker 2 (02:02:37):
Crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:02:38):
So here's how Bobby Jr. Is killing people. He's he's
doing it by running them over with his car. Uh
He's no, that was ted. Sorry. He is the Secretary
of Health and Human Services, two things he doesn't know
very much about humans or health and.

Speaker 2 (02:03:01):
Service.

Speaker 1 (02:03:01):
Yeah. So you know what narcan is, right, Oh?

Speaker 2 (02:03:08):
Yes, Narkan is the life saving drug that you know,
when people overdose, they can go ahead. And the idea
would be that, actually, any the way opioids have ravaged
the United States is that anybody should have access to that,
so that if someone is overdosing on the street, you
could give that to them and prevent them from dying.
Which is a person who looks at the crack epidemic,

(02:03:29):
which obviously still tragic, didn't kill people the same way.
But so there was nothing that was brought out though,
to be like, oh shit, crackn is overdosed, let's stop
and help him. One of the crazier things I've ever
seen in mind.

Speaker 1 (02:03:42):
So Narkan, Yeah, it reverses an overdose, and it's it's
kind of magical stuff and it has saved countless lives. Yeah,
I mean millions of lives. This this stuff is and
schools have it, doctors and EMTs, firefighters, police, they all

(02:04:02):
have it. There's lots of push, like you said, to
get it into the hands of just everybody. We should
all be carrying this around with us. And it's really
easy to administer, right, You just like stick it in
their nose and press the clowns. Yeah, squeeze the thing
and it brings people back to life. So, a fifty
six million dollar annual grant through SAMSHA distributes Narcan to

(02:04:25):
first responders across the country and sixty six thousand individuals
and distributing more than two hundred and eighty two thousand
kits just in twenty twenty four alone. It's shown a
decrease of nearly twenty four percent in overdose deaths in

(02:04:46):
the last twelve months ending in September. He's ending that program.
He's ending the program because he does not want firefighters
to have access to it. I don't understand is rationale here?
The doctors, well, the worm did it, I guess. Uh.

(02:05:08):
The doctors have said that this is a it's like
a god send as far as the op WAID epidemic
is concerned, we're certainly in the middle of one now
with fentanyl, and we need this funding source because it's
saving lives every day. Kennedy, of course, is previously praised
interventions like Narcan is critical to saving lives. He now
frames the crisis as one requiring deeper spiritual societal change

(02:05:31):
rather than relying on nuts and Bolt's medical solutions. What
across the bear. Ah, Yeah, I'm surprised you didn't go
to Dallas to make this announcement.

Speaker 2 (02:05:44):
Maybe he should.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
It's uh, just to bring up another thing about like
opioids and math. I don't know if you saw Pam
Bondy was out here talking about that they've intercepted twenty
two million fentanyl pills, you know, and she says that
that has that has saved one hundred and nineteen million
American lives. It's like a third of the country. Yeah,

(02:06:08):
the Sacra family is killed. Yeah. So yeah, and she
had some other stat that was like two hundred and
fifty million.

Speaker 2 (02:06:19):
So like, I think three hundred million people in this country.

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
There's only yeah, three hundred and fifty million people in
the country. So by Pam Bondy's assessment. The twenty two
million pills that they took off the street were about
to be all split up into about five pieces each
and given to everybody who could get their hands on
them and kill them all instantly. But because they seize them,
a third of the country is safe. I know I'm safe.

(02:06:43):
Thank God for Pam Bondy.

Speaker 2 (02:06:46):
Two thousand and four. Luke McCown, he's still playing.

Speaker 1 (02:06:52):
I think think so. Yeah, all right, Bobby Kennedy, Junior
Intensive Shift. The way that vaccines are tested, this is
a great one. So normally, right, when you have a
new vaccine for a thing that has never been out,
you test it by having the vaccine and a placebo. Right,

(02:07:14):
that's sort of like standard medical practice. You give some
people the vaccine, give some people the placibo, you track
and see how many people get sick with the thing
or whatever. But when you've got a functional vaccine that
you know works, it's already been tested, but you're making
a change or you're getting the next strain, you know,
like the COVID nineteen vaccine or yes, exactly, things that
you know work, it's not ethical to give out placebos. No,

(02:07:37):
because no work, Yeah, because you've got something that you
know works. So what you do is you give like
different versions of the thing that you know works and
then launch your study by collecting the data of those
sets of people. But you don't ever give people a
saline shot and tell them that it's a vaccine when

(02:07:58):
you have the actual vaccine of it, like ever, because
I'm in charge. Yeah, right. But the idea of the
placebo is that there are people who believe that some
of the responses to medication are psychosomatic, that there's no
chemical reason, that it's all it's sort of in your
head anyway. But that's not really the case when it

(02:08:19):
comes to like viral treatment of vaccines. It's something that
you can measure, you know, in the bloodstream or whatever.
So but Kennedy, he's like, yeah, yeah, all new vaccines
will undergo safety testing in placebo controlled trials prior to licensure,
a radical departure from the past decades, said a spokesperson
at HHS. Yeah, vaccines for new pathogens are often tested

(02:08:45):
this way, but for well known, well researched diseases such
as measles and polio, public health experts say makes little
sense to do that and can be unethical because the
placebo group would not receive a known effective invention.

Speaker 2 (02:09:03):
Like five Charlie Fry.

Speaker 1 (02:09:09):
Yeah, so he's out here telling people it's only in
one hundred days though this is more to come. Yeah,
he's gonna go a lot more people have the day
you voted for, especially in West Texas.

Speaker 2 (02:09:22):
Again, he nominated an anti vaxer after creating the most
effective vaccine we've ever seen.

Speaker 1 (02:09:33):
And then he tells people not to take.

Speaker 4 (02:09:36):
I mean like it's just an easy win man, Like
he couldn't went like it's oke the it will always
I will be in the climate refugee camps.

Speaker 2 (02:09:51):
Telling people the story about this will be like doesn't
make any sense, but hear me out, y'all. Man created
a vac scene with his administration and then told everybody
not to take it.

Speaker 1 (02:10:04):
A man millions of millions of lives. An American president
got help from Dolly Parton to create a vaccine that
was that that ended a worldwide epidemic and takes no
credit for it. There's not a more American story ever.
I mean, I don't know if you could find a

(02:10:25):
way that the vaccine tasted like apple pie and and
was delivered by a home run hit over the center
field fence. Maybe, but like, come on, all right, Brady
Quinn Notre Dame. Uh also Cleveland Brown you're picking up yeah,

(02:10:47):
uh yeah, But McCallan I think ended up on the
Bengals and.

Speaker 2 (02:10:54):
A variety of places there. Yeah, he was drafted by
the Browns.

Speaker 1 (02:10:59):
All right, So this one's called what the fuck? Uh
you know about Virginia, right, it's that place that I live.

Speaker 2 (02:11:09):
Confederates, well, Capito, Confederates is the whole is the whole
cotton belt, that's Bible Belt, sorry, down south, deep south. Yeah. Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:11:24):
So you know, we have a governor currently. His name
is Glenn Youngkin and uh, in Virginia, you cannot run
for governor and consecutive terms, right, so you you basically
you can, Yeah, you can run in non consecutive terms
like Terry mccalliff did and it was not great. But anyway,
so Youngin is he's on his way out. Right. We

(02:11:46):
have an election off off your election coming up this year,
and but he still likes to keep his hand in
the game, right, still trying to influence politics here in
the Commonwealth.

Speaker 4 (02:11:57):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:11:58):
Apart from the theos titty on our flag that now
can't fly in Texas. So they need a lieutenant governor, right,
they know who they're gonna run as governor. It's a
win some sears. She's serving as lieutenant governor now Jamaican.
She's a Jamaican gun nut and a crazy person and

(02:12:20):
she so they needed like somebody to run for the
lt position. There's a guy from Springfield, uh named Pat
Herrody who was gonna run. Has a long history in
Virginia electoral politics. Was like the lone Republican on the
Virginia Board or on the Fairfax County Board for a
long time. And uh, he was gonna run and he

(02:12:43):
was running against this guy called John Reid and then
Pat herrod He was like, you know what this is.
This is definitely too much bullshit. I don't want to
do this. Uh, And so that leaves John Reid. He's
like uncontested, you know. So he's gonna be like all right, cool,
you know, we don't even really need to do the primary.
We can just go ahead and start raising money and
he can be the nominee for Lieutenant governor in the

(02:13:05):
race in November. But then there was like a bunch
of opposition research that came out which said that John
Reid was like doing a bunch of pornos and stuff
and like releasing all of these videos or something. They

(02:13:26):
said it was pornographic content. I don't know what exactly
what it is. Now, if you don't know who John
Reid is, you might know that he is. You will
find out that he is a conservative radio host in
the Richmond area. He's sort of like Alex Jones down there,
and you know, he's a successful one and he's good
at raising a lot of money and he yells about

(02:13:47):
the lagos are coming to the But he's also gay
as the day is long, and and is open about it. Right,
He's he's openly gay, right wing radio host radios. How
he's on our not on our network, I don't know,
but very confusing. So the Youngkin team is like, oh no,

(02:14:13):
we want this guy out of the race. Now, Reid
is like, this is extortion. They're only after me because
I'm gay. They're they're bigots, you know, which is really rich.

Speaker 2 (02:14:23):
Right, Yes, it's an interesting path to take that.

Speaker 1 (02:14:26):
In a video post on social media Sunday, Reid said
that he had hoped that the Republican ticket would be
unified and that he could put the quote bigotry and
ugliness of last week behind him. However, he said representatives
of his campaign have been repeatedly told by a leader
of the Youngkin political organization that the attacks would continue
unless he drops out. Now, I don't know who they
think they're going to put in. There's nobody else who

(02:14:48):
wants this job. And uh, but they're like, we got
to get this guy out. I haven't seen the content.
I don't know what it is. Brian, you're the expert
in this category.

Speaker 4 (02:14:58):
But like, what.

Speaker 1 (02:15:01):
Why would they want him out so bad? And if
not just to get the win? Like, I don't understand,
why is this guy so dangerous to them?

Speaker 2 (02:15:09):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:15:10):
They were told that if I dropped out of the
race that they would purchase the opposition research and the
lies and threats against me would suddenly stop. This is
extortion and it is illegal in Virginia. I am more
outraged now. I have engaged legal counsel to pursue all
options against these people. He said, I'm dancing. I mean cool,

(02:15:30):
y'all just go ahead and self immolate, man, That's that's
that's what you want to do. It's great, great, It is.

Speaker 2 (02:15:38):
Yeah, you know this is a doesn't sound like he'll
be winning the election.

Speaker 1 (02:15:43):
Yeah, okay, this last story is called this is the
name of a real person. Oh, I have one, Colt McCoy,
former Washington great Colt McCoy that hit Alex what's his
name had the lake. Yeah, Alex Smith had the leg

(02:16:04):
Coviccoy got his bell run way too many times, way
too many times. But he was always ready to go.
He was always ready to go. Yeah, I love the guy.
Retired as a as Washington footballer. So, uh, you know
war number five? No, he did it Texas. He wore
number five when he came here. He had to get
a different number because Tresway had that, and then he

(02:16:26):
gave it to uh Jaden the new five. Yeah all right.
Uh you're Italian right nominally? No, like Mike Turrico, I
think you can read this story. I've been trying to
figure out this name. But yes, so this is a

(02:16:47):
real name of a real person. Friends, when Cardinal I
want to try this one here, Pierre Bautista, is it
Pierre Battista? Yeah, Pizzabala, that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:17:03):
I heard the news Eastern Monday that the Pope Francis
had died, which is still so crazy because jade Vance
killed him. He immediately canceled his appointments and packed his
bags for Rome. As he was leading the headquarters. What
is this the Latin patriarchy? How is the patriarch patriarchate?
Excuse me? Of Jerusalem, where he had led the Catholic

(02:17:25):
flock in the Holy Land for the last decade. A
small groove of AIDS employees and friends gathered outside as
he was getting in the car head to the airport.
A visibly touched Pizzabala watched as they were saying to
him in Arabic, made the Lord guide her steps with
his wisdom, fill your heart with his spirit, and be

(02:17:46):
with you in if it's his prayer that you should
lead his church. Aside from being a sweet gesture, the
impromptu serenade also had the feel of a farewell, since
the people making up the cluster knew that a decent
chance they won't be seeing the sixty year old Pizza
Bala again anytime soon, except on a TV screen as

(02:18:07):
Pope Pizza Obala born in nineteen sixty five in the
small community in castell uh uh Litigio, I guess, excuse me,
uh in Gamo. Yeah, the same province that gave us
the church Saint John, which was the twenty third correct,

(02:18:27):
the good, good Pope John, whose memory.

Speaker 1 (02:18:30):
Still a bad Pope John. Have a bad Pope. It's
not possible. Good Pope John. The Nazi one wasn't great.
I wasn't Nazi Pope.

Speaker 2 (02:18:39):
Yeah, he did a lot of bad things.

Speaker 1 (02:18:40):
I forgot about that. He was the one right before
this one. Yes, the Hitler youth. Remember, yes, he was
in the Hitler And then his name was Benedict.

Speaker 2 (02:18:51):
It was Benedict.

Speaker 1 (02:18:52):
Hilarious, you know, mister Pizza Bala, this gets even better.
Pizzabala in Bologna. The young Pizza Bla studied philosophy and theology.
So alight, just a lot going here. It's just his
name is is Servatista Pizza Bala.

Speaker 2 (02:19:14):
I mean, might as well be Pope Delicates.

Speaker 1 (02:19:18):
Yeah, it's raight up. This guy can't be real. I
can't have it. We can't have Pope Pizza Bla.

Speaker 2 (02:19:23):
No, there will be no white smoke for him.

Speaker 1 (02:19:27):
Can you imagine the next Many viam and Papa John's
is the Pizza Bla. You can get the chacaroni and
the Pizza Bala instead of the little the little thing
they put in the middle of the pizza anymore. Cross Yeah,
I'll take a large with pepperoni and uh and two

(02:19:50):
orders of pizza Balas please, I mean I could go
for a Pizza Bla. How did he end up Pizza Bla?
And and and that it's his last name implies the
existence of other Pizza blas parents and maybe some brothers

(02:20:11):
and sisters. What if you married his sister, would you
take her last name? Would you become a Pizza Bla?
What if what if his brother marries your sister, does
she become a Pizza Bla?

Speaker 2 (02:20:26):
I mean it could be Pizza Boli's right.

Speaker 1 (02:20:31):
I want to be a Pizza Bla. Is there a
way to get into the family.

Speaker 2 (02:20:36):
Eat enough pizza and be called a pizza bola exactly?

Speaker 1 (02:20:42):
Anyway, I am now praying for pot Pizza Bla.

Speaker 2 (02:20:46):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:20:47):
If I got a vote in this, it would good
for him. I don't know what his policies are or
where he stands on anything, except that his name is
Pierre Battista Pizza Bala, and I need, I need to
put Pizza Bla in my life.

Speaker 2 (02:21:01):
You know, Catholic Church has never been one to not
have the dough.

Speaker 1 (02:21:08):
They got the cheese man.

Speaker 2 (02:21:09):
You got the cheese man.

Speaker 1 (02:21:12):
Yes, just get a little slice of the pizza Bla.

Speaker 2 (02:21:18):
I know where the next Dominos is gonna be.

Speaker 1 (02:21:22):
The guy. Look at him, he looks like a pizza Butla.

Speaker 2 (02:21:25):
He looks he's a pizza Bla.

Speaker 1 (02:21:28):
Actually, you were like making up the name of a
fake mobster. Hey, what do you know Tony Pizza Bla?

Speaker 2 (02:21:39):
You know, like, well you called him by his full name.

Speaker 1 (02:21:42):
No, we don't do that.

Speaker 2 (02:21:43):
We're sorry. You know, did you talk to the guy
about the thing? You mean, the pizza Bala?

Speaker 4 (02:21:48):
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:21:52):
Twelve Pizza.

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