Fat guardsmen from Texas!

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Speaker 1 (00:33):
It is nine thirty on a Thursday night and you're
tuned into Beltweit Radio and Beyond, which can mean one
and only thing. This is Chipchat. Welcome to chip Chat, everybody,
I'm yours chip with me is Test? How you doing Test?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
I'm doing well, buddy.

Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yeah, this is the who are you?

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (00:55):
Well, yeah, I was gonna say this is the second
week in the row. This has been fucked up, so
obviously it has nothing to do with with whoever, No
matter what I mean. Look, last week ship Chat, it
was great talking about we tried our best, We tried

(01:16):
our best, we did what we could.

Speaker 1 (01:18):
Well it was a complete disaster.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Man, I had to deal do this, do that, and
yeah it was.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
You had to do a lot, Brian had. Brian was
a heavy left last week.

Speaker 3 (01:30):
You know, I just love the clips that I'm just talking.

Speaker 1 (01:36):
Well, I watched the show and I did catch I
did manage to get it to live while you guys
were on. I did text you throughout all right, and
I appreciate all of the times you said how hard
it was.

Speaker 3 (01:52):
Oh yeah, clearly, yes, I never have doubted that. You know,
carrying this show was a burden, a boulder on your back.

Speaker 1 (02:05):
Yeah, I'm not sure the older on my back is
the right way to describe. So that's all right, Yeah,
that's truly, it's not, but it is one of those
things where it is difficult to do if you don't
have the help. And I mean there's a reason this.

Speaker 2 (02:28):
Is I want to help. Brian was here and it
was still difficult.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Yeah, yeah, there's there's a reason this isn't a one
person show. Oh.

Speaker 3 (02:35):
I individuals who are able to do like just to
do that by themselves is just I find that to
be crazy. Like, there's a few folks who are able
like to just carry on shows by themselves, and there
are something I enjoy and I still listen to. But
I do find that to be an art. I don't
think that's that's different because I enjoyed the communal aspect.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Yeah, the people who do these things by themselves are
people like Russian, the Shapiro and and like, that's not
a group I want to be in. That's fair, And
I think that in the case of both of them,
and maybe all of them, the person that they're talking
to is like the their producer.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, yeah, no, that's a good point.

Speaker 1 (03:20):
And they just talk to them and at them, and
that person's job is to just nod along to keep
them going right, which is not as funny.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
Okay, so here's the thing. We got a lot to
go over some of the stuff. What is this when
they say police, tune into. I mean, the news is
breaking rather quickly, so at the time you listen to this,
even live, it's probably changed.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
So tune into.

Speaker 3 (03:45):
I don't know what source of news you trust anymore.
I'm just gonna say, NPR, this is.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
A developing story. The whole world is a developing story
right now. So we have a lot of things that
we need to go over. However, Okay, the most important
thing that we learned today in the whole world, and
keep in mind we have you know, we're waiting to
see what happens in Gaza, right we we we maybe

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have a deal, maybe kind of. The Israeli still haven't
signed anything or agreed to anything.

Speaker 3 (04:19):
And they were still I thought, no, I thought they
this evening they it went through the Parliament right where we.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Were having a vote on it. I don't know that
it got if, it got totally sortid. And I know
that as of at least a few hours ago, they
were still bombing. Okay, the Israeli ministers approve the ceasefire,
but we'll see where that goes from there, and uh,

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I'm sure we'll have to look into that a little
more deeply. That's a big developing story.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
Another developing story is that some lady who currently holds
the job as US Attorney for the Eastern District of
Virginia and has no staff, found an indictment on Tiss James.
Not clear what's in the indictment. It is clear that

(05:13):
it's very thin and it's not gonna work. That's a
developing story. As we slide faster into fascism, all of
these things are happening, right, There's a lot going on.
There's playoff baseball. There's all kinds of stuff, okay, but
the most important thing that we.

Speaker 3 (05:32):
Were fashionsm in playoff baseball just back. Those are just wild.
That's why there.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Was playoff baseball in the thirties.

Speaker 3 (05:42):
Oh yeah, there was playoff baseball in the thirties, but
not in the fascist country. Well, I don't know. Some
other people would say, actually no, yeah, you couldn't, you know,
when the segregated league. Yeah, maybe that people would say
it already in the fascist country. I digress, actually.

Speaker 1 (05:58):
Walk right into it. Okay, with all of that going on,
here's the thing that we learned this afternoon that apparently
autism is caused by circumcision.

Speaker 3 (06:15):
I missed this one. I thought we were still on
tailan all.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
This, you would have thought. But no, this afternoon, in
a cabinet meeting with cameras rolling and all of these
other people who are you know, allegedly running the country,
Bobby Kennedy Jr. Told everybody that he had two studies

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that showed a link, a causal link, between circumcision and autism.
And then he said it's because after they do it,
they give the baby Thailand all and all of these
people who are cabinet secretaries of State, of Defense, of

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Interior of all of these things, when oh, yes, yes, yes,
well that makes pretty good sense. Bobby, Yes, yes, None
of them, not a one was like, all right, Bobby,
shut the fuck up. You're making us all look really
stupid right now. They were all just like, yeah, yeah,
circumcision autism totally tracks. Yeah. Nobody was like, what do

(07:23):
we have autistic women for? Like, how did that happen?

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Nobody as that, No, one's asking that question.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
Nobody was like, hey, whoa.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Well this is kind of in reruns, but it's just
fitting because the real RFK Junior Trials of a Truth
Warrior by Dick Russell. Yeah, that's a real book. I
swear that is.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
That is a book.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
It's a real book.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Anybody can publish something.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
I'm just saying, it's a real book.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
Okay. So we had a whole show planned and then
that bombshell drop. So we're just gonna scrap everything and
talk about how my brisk caused autism.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
I'm not sure we had to cut a part of
the show to fit that in.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
Oh just a little part though.

Speaker 3 (08:17):
We we partner.

Speaker 1 (08:24):
Good lord, Okay, let's let's let's get back.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
That's terrible.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Let's get back to a slightly more sensitive topic.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
No us.

Speaker 1 (08:42):
So we did notice in our stats this week there
was a big jump in listeners all over the world,
a lot in Brazil apparently. So hello everybody in Brazil,
thank you for tuning in to shows from twenty nineteen
and on. We appreciate it. And I hope you're learning stuff,

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and I hope you're not learning the wrong things about
our country.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Because everything we said back then was wrong.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
Nah, you might be getting some mixed impressions. Yeah, so
there you go. Okay, this week, the government remains shut down.
That is still happening. Chicago is under attack from Texas.
That's a real thing. And Portland is under attack from
a frog, which is also real. Brian, do we have

(09:34):
the video? Maybe?

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Oh god, I'm worried they are.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
In fact turning the frogs very very gay.

Speaker 2 (09:45):
Oh god, it's happened.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
We can prove it.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
Oh no, right now.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
Clearly we need frogs here in DC.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Oh man, So yeah, that's the war zone that Trump
is sending troops to stop.

Speaker 2 (10:23):
Get Stalin.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Man.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
This is it.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
This is really it because it doesn't make any sense.
It does make sense, right for the theatrics and like
there's a long term play that's here, but it's so
dumb that anybody with regular eyes looking at this, I
think across the country is like, well, those troops are
in Portland, but it was a green frog, Maggie, don't

(10:47):
get it. But it doesn't seem to be the truth. Well,
clearly they're turning the frogs game clearly.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Then the next night there were like puffy unicorns and
things because it's Portland. It's Portland the most Portland.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
Yeah, what are we doing to waste?

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Like, you know, if the city is already a bit
of a joke of itself, right that like Armistan made
a more higher fake documentary series about Portland, ea, right,
which is so on the nose. I mean it, like
people in Portland apparently love this show and apparently think

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it's very funny about how accurate it is. It does
really beg the question of, like, of all the places
to choose, Yeah, and it also does seem clear that
the things he's seeing are footage of twenty twenty, and
he thinks.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
It's it's clearly that.

Speaker 1 (11:54):
Yeah, So shout out to that Portland frog. That's amazing.
Oh man. Okay, so we're gonna have headlines. We're gonna
break down the shutdown, uh and try to do all that.
We're gonna try to figure out why Trump is sending
troops to your city next. Also, Jim Comey had a

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fun week. We don't really know exactly where that's going yet,
but now Tis James gets to join him. We still
don't have any Epstein files, partly because Mike Johnson is
a fucking douche.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
I mean he's slick. Actually that's it's a slick moves of.

Speaker 1 (12:31):
It's a slick move, but it's it is and uh
and diego and uh and Kelly like buttonhold him and
and we're like hey. And they had the cameras rolling too.
They're like, why the fuck don't you see our congress lady,
And he's like, you know, I'd love to, but uh,

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we just you know, we don't have a schedule for it.
They're like, that's bullshit, and he goes, no, no, that's
the one I'm going with. And they're like, you could see,
like Commander Kelly was ready to like fighter pilot his ass.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, I mean, Speaker Johnson has figured it out.

Speaker 3 (13:15):
It seems to be. Remember from I never didn't think he'd.

Speaker 2 (13:18):
Last this long.

Speaker 1 (13:19):
Remember when we both thought he wasn't gonna make it
a month?

Speaker 3 (13:21):
Right, and I, uh, political will and you know, bending
over backwards.

Speaker 1 (13:29):
He's bending over something. So that's why we don't have
Epstein files yet, because she would make the deciding vote
on the discharge petition and that would force action in
the House, and of course, Maga Mike does not want
to do that because his boss told him he better not,
so we'll see all you can hold out on that.

(13:50):
I mean, that's been just like a ticking clock. So okay,
all that said, do you have a word.

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Oh yeah, well have a word.

Speaker 3 (14:00):
I'll think it were But before we go into the break,
I wanted to push send a shout out to one
of my good friends. I would say a mentor specifically
and around hip hop in this area. My good brother
yuh yeah, who was uh it hit and run uh
the other morning and was severely injured in his h

(14:21):
recovery as I hear it currently, but was pretty serious.
So uh, love you sir, hopefully onto a speedy recovery
and fuck the motherfuckers who did that.

Speaker 5 (14:31):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
And yeah, it's just around the safe streets in DC
and the folks that are again just being outside where
there are pedestrian walking or riding any type of bike,
motor vehicle just not safe out here or not. I
want to send a shout out on praise to his
family on that.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
So guys started to see that trickling in on uh
on the socials. So yes, absolutely, and people don't drive
like assholes.

Speaker 6 (14:59):
But the let's just yeah, it's sucking damn shame that
that's happening. But sorry that yeah, that's perfectly reasonable. That's
what this platform is for. Its nominally community radio anyway.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
So we we uh yeah, we hope why you recover
soon and uh we really hope that people will be
more careful in general in general. Okay, uh, let's see.
Do you have a word, Uh yeah, I gotta work. Okay,
I've got a word.

Speaker 2 (15:31):
We butchered this last week. It was so bad.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Yeah, you two try so bad. So we'll try to be.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
And you're thinking like you would ten years of doing this, you.

Speaker 3 (15:45):
Would think no, but it's a muscle memory because I
don't do that. I don't ever have to do that far.
It's rare, and yeah, I butchered it. It's all my fault.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Okay, you go first this time.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Yeah, I gotta do go first this okay, okay, all.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Right, so sit back, grab some brooms. It's black Hawk time.
You're listening to the to the best show, the only show,
chip Chat on Beltway Radio and beyond. All right, welcome

(16:40):
back to chip Chat here on Beltweit Radio and Beyond.
I am your chip with me is Tez. All right. Now,
it's time to get into some headlines. Stuff's been going on, okay,
and uh, we're gonna read some of them.

Speaker 3 (16:57):
You want to go first, I'll take the first him out.
I didn't count him out. I only read this show
one time.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Right, there's a few land mines in there.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
Here we go.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Let's just you know, we'll try to dodge them, which
I never do. France's fifth prime minister in the last
two years resigned this week, citing partisan acrimony and the
fact that he just wanted a baguette and some wine
and work is too hard. Yes, yes, obviously I feel them.
That's what I want.

Speaker 1 (17:29):
Yeah, I mean, that's one of the things the French get, right,
is they don't work at all, all right. Donald Trump
attempted to send federalized National Guard troops to Oregon, but
was thwarted when a judge that he appointed ruled that
the deployment was quote fucking pointless.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
I means your pointee, obviously.

Speaker 3 (17:52):
At the speech in Chronicle last week, Trump complained that
he doesn't like the look of the Navy's battleships. Also
on his lists the Air Force's new Jenga blocks and
the Army's improved monopoly porn. That's good, a.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
King Jeffrey sombrero saw its shadow, meaning six more weeks
of shutdown.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
The shutdown means that air traffic controllers are being forced
to work with no pay or is Kanye called it
a choice?

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Yeah? The time? Oh pause on that. Yes, I don't
know if you saw, but there was there. You know.
The Indiana's the place.

Speaker 2 (18:36):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
Uh, they have a lieutenant governor, which I was shocked
to find out. Indiana bothered with that or you know reading,
but their lieutenant governor went on TV something with the
camera and filmed himself explaining that the three fifths Compromise
was not about discrimination, but it was a clever move

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by the North to eventually end slavery.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
That is a wild that's the wildest spin of that
I've ever heard.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
I was pretty shocked.

Speaker 3 (19:13):
I was like, wait, don't I don't even want to comment.
This is like go watch this, but that is insane.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
So they oh, he took off his jacket in shirt
sleeves and sat on the front of his desk like
a you know, high school teacher and commenced to explain
that the three fitths Compromise was not discriminatory and did not,

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in fact, enshrine slavery in the Constitution, but rather proved
that it would ultimately meet its demise.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Not true. Yeah, I mean I get I know, we're
interpreting things from the past, however we want now that's
it's this is not true.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
That's not even close.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
Look, I'm pretty sure there's written documents about like it's
clearly written down that people are like, well, if we
are going to do this, they have to be counted
some way.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, specifically, there aren't enough white folks in the South
to get any voting representation if we don't also count
all of these quote unquote people who just happen to
be around down here, just you know, take it up space.

Speaker 3 (20:35):
Happy immigrants, you know, the happy as it came over
to help. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (20:40):
So I encourage you to go watch that.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
Maybe I discourage you. Yeah, but it exists. Yeah, break news.

Speaker 7 (20:53):
Breaking news in baseball, Los Angeles Dodgers will be heading
to another championship series. They beat the Phillies two to
one and x Ra Innings.

Speaker 1 (21:06):
Thank you to finish it off.

Speaker 3 (21:07):
Yeah, because people like, oh, you want the other evil
empire to win. I say, look here, you know what Dodgers.
A lot of things that people don't like about that,
but you know what, their name is still the Dodgers,
and as a black person, I really can't. I can't
have too much hate against the Dodgors, right, it's because
the whole old thing.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
If I like baseball, This is a reason.

Speaker 3 (21:27):
If you don't know why, that's on you, forty two reasons,
it's forty two reasons. So I don't have any beef
with them, all right, I don't really have it. And
my team beat them to go to the freaking World Series,
so I don't care anymore. I'm over it. Also, Phillies, though,
can't be that.

Speaker 1 (21:45):
It just cannot The Phillies walked in the tying run tonight.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
So oh yeah, no, I just you know, I just
I it can't be the Phillies. They they can't be happy.

Speaker 1 (21:56):
No, I think. Isn't that a rule like Bryce can
never make a World Series after Yeah, it's yes, that's
a clown question, bro clown question. Bro. Okay, thank you
for that update. Back to the headlines. Let's see, uh,
where do we leave off? Without air traffic controllers, the
Trump administration has sent acting FA Administrator, who is also

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the Department of Transportation Secretary, Sean Duffy to fill in
at all of those towers based on his years of
experience as a contestant on MTV's Road Rules, And that
is all true. We did not make rules. He was
one of the Road Rules contestants.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Yes, that's insane. For years, Wow, you know the best
people this administration. All right, towers all over the country
from Boston to Albuquerque have been experiencing shortages, which would
explain why Bugs Bunny missed his left.

Speaker 1 (22:58):
That is a very very very famous joke that nobody knows.
Do you have any idea the frame of reference there?

Speaker 3 (23:08):
No, I mean I don't. I'm trying to clue into
where this would have happened in a episode of So.

Speaker 1 (23:16):
In nearly every Bugs episode where he, you know, is
pops up in some place, he thinks he's on his
way to vacation and he pops up and he realizes
he's not there, and he pulls out his map and
you know from digging underground, and he always says that, oh,

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I should have made that left toy a or I
shouldn't have made the left turn in right. So that's
the joke.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
We've explained it now.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Yeah, Well that's that's a history lesson I guess that's
you know, children have no culture. Okay, active duty troops
are also not being pay but the ones that have
been deployed to Chicago did get some deep dish, so
they're okay.

Speaker 3 (24:04):
Pizza soup will not have you slander. I don't have pizza.
I don't have an issue with deep dish pizza. I'm
just saying sometimes I look at them, like at the
pizza soup.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
It's delicious.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
No argument there. Speaking of speaking of truth, did you
see the guys that Greg Abbott said to Chicago. It
looks like they also haven't been jogging in a while. Yes,
I don't know if we've got there they go they.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
Seriously, these guys look like they volunteered for the mission
based on Chicago hot dogs alone.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
I mean, look, I'm not here to fat chain people.
That's all I'll say.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
Better put that image back up. Go ahead, don't fat
change anybody.

Speaker 3 (24:53):
Though. People come in different sizes.

Speaker 8 (24:59):
Yeah, go ahead, look there's coming different sizes.

Speaker 3 (25:05):
Oh sorry, I even realized that was a headline, like
he was making a joke. Local Chicago police subjective objected
to the deployment as their local doughnut chops are simply
not up to the volume. That's correct.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Texas's National Guard looks like what happens when their entire
diet consists of Chilian.

Speaker 3 (25:24):
Brisket, which I didn't like, would be delicious, delicious, man,
I'm just.

Speaker 1 (25:29):
Not saying, don't put you in fight in shape.

Speaker 3 (25:32):
And probably not. No, you don't think it would be
fighting a nap. We heard these guys were selected for
the mission because with their mustaches and and size they
could go under cover. Is really swarsky super fans. The
bear stumps, that's act that one dude does. Look like

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that doesn't.

Speaker 1 (25:58):
Up.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, Brian, He's like, whatever, you guys, I don't.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
I did it twice.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
I'm not doing this dumb show worked last week. Yeah,
we're gonna do one more. H Texas gard troops look
like the Pillsbury dough Boys cousins who all played offensive
line in high school.

Speaker 3 (26:24):
The Pillsbury old line is kind of crazy. Yeah. Watching
MTG realize that people like healthcare and feel like they're
getting screwed reminds me of watching my kids learn to read.

Speaker 2 (26:36):
That is.

Speaker 3 (26:39):
It has been really it's been kind of wild to
watch her.

Speaker 1 (26:43):
I think she's two cycles away from flipping if there
are going to be additional elections.

Speaker 2 (26:49):
That's what do we do with that?

Speaker 1 (26:52):
I mean, okay, one, I'm not the only one who's
saying that anymore actual people. I was gonna take to
like in the middle of it was I think it
was maybe an episode. It was either one A or like,
I don't know, one of the serious shows on NPR,
and they were talking to a retired general.

Speaker 3 (27:13):
Oh yeah, no, I listened to this. It was a
if you can keep it series? Yes, yes, yes, I definitely.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
It was like, I don't think we're gonna have a
twenty six election. I think there's going to be a
fake emergency to try to stop that. And I was like, ha,
I'm not crazy. Everybody's coming around.

Speaker 3 (27:33):
The only reason that I don't think that happens is
the fact that the individual in the White House still
likes to win, and I think the need to have
the elections, to try to win the elections is something
that he's not to just do.

Speaker 1 (27:47):
A fake thing and say he won it. He still
thinks he won twenty twenty.

Speaker 3 (27:54):
Yeah, but he didn't. Yeah, I just I still think
I think elections happen. Now what happens counting and the
official counts at the end of the year next year
and getting people seated. I think that could be a
bigger issue there. But I do think the elections will happen.

Speaker 1 (28:10):
Because again when you're elections in Russia, but again.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
When you this is the problem I have with this
whole thing is that as the American people, when you
start saying this stuff, then it's almost like you're giving
into it and setting up It's like, No, the same
way people out here fighting, these folks fighting these people
ice coming in there and they're in their communities doing that,
the American people will do the exact same thing to
fight to make sure that they have elections.

Speaker 2 (28:36):
Yeah, and we pray that the courts assist with that.

Speaker 3 (28:39):
It's the only thing you can.

Speaker 1 (28:42):
As I mentioned before, who enforces the court order?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
I hear you, I hear you. I also hope and
if it.

Speaker 3 (28:52):
Gets to that, you know what. That same military general also,
I feel like mentioned in there that the military he
needs will also at a certain point needs to rake
up and realize that their job is here and that
is the other piece of this, and that that would
be very very scary to get to. But there's a
job that they're here to do and there's something that

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they need to uphold, and that's still that's so true.

Speaker 1 (29:17):
But it would be an extraordinary circumstance. It would be
I mean, they would have to to act outside the
command of the commander in chief or contrary to in
order by the commander in chief, and it would I mean.
But we can get into this a little further. But

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the more and more you see these things where Ice
is shooting people with pepper balls for singing or claiming
that they got rammed when they didn't, and shooting a
man dead after dropping off his kids at school, people
are seeing this not just in video, but this is

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happen in their neighborhoods in front of them. And if
you're worried about a backlash or a radicalization doing stuff
like smashing an entire apartment building to zip tide naked
seven year olds and throw them in the back of
a U haul truck, people will see that, and they

(30:20):
did see that, and whatever their feelings were before, if
you see something like that happen in front of your
face and you don't feel the rage necessary to defend
what is the regular order of things in this country
where children do not get zip tied naked out of

(30:41):
their beds, right, there's something wrong with you. But if
you did see that and feel that rage, you do
wonder why these ice cubes are so worried about people
finding out who the fuck they are, because it will
come to a head, and it is getting there. So
just Oh, I keep saying the same thing over and again,

(31:01):
but I want it on record because it's just we're
making progress towards the worst thing that we could ever have.

Speaker 3 (31:08):
Yeah, and I it is. It's on We don't have
bullet trains or high speed rail on here, but this
is on a high speed rail towards that.

Speaker 2 (31:18):
I don't disagree with that. But what I do believe
is I do believe the American.

Speaker 3 (31:23):
People will eventually have that moment and what the reaction
is of that moment. Again, it might not be it's
probably not gonna look good, but I think whatever the outcome,
whatever the day after is, of that, I think we
will look up and be like American people said enough
was enough and they stood up for this.

Speaker 1 (31:43):
The first thing that people should say when they look
up on that day after is oh my god, Chip
was right.

Speaker 3 (31:49):
Well that's all That's all you're hearing that's all. I
put a pin in the and I want to Yeah,
you guys want to put a pin in the when
we get to like the political retribution that seems to
be happening right now.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
Because there's another point that I don't want to waste here.

Speaker 1 (32:05):
We'll get we'll get back to that, all right, let's
continue on with the headlines. Yes, let's see oh yeah, okay. Today,
in a cabinet meeting, RFK Junior confidently declared that he
knew of two studies that said circumcision causes autism. Of
course RFK Junior does love studying the circumcisions of children,
or how else would he know. I'm not saying, I'm

(32:31):
just saying how else would he know?

Speaker 3 (32:36):
Christ Yeah, moving along, trump olaving new tariffs on Switzerland,
claiming that they have been sending us low grade cheese
with holes in it. That's right, well again, half the
cheese we pay for exactly.

Speaker 1 (32:53):
In Germany, young TikTok inspired gen Z folks gathered to
participate in the viral video exercise of eating pudding with
a fork, which is a much more preferable reason for
Germans together than some of the others.

Speaker 3 (33:06):
I would say, shouldn't matter that. Yeah you mad that
w W NBA finals are in full swing, causing a
dip in Subaru sales. Yes, that's wild, scrap, that's wild.

Speaker 1 (33:20):
Tell me it's not true.

Speaker 3 (33:22):
No over.

Speaker 1 (33:24):
In the NFL, the Chiefs, Bills, and Ravens all loss,
causing many broken doors and walls.

Speaker 3 (33:29):
Yeah you know, God, I have the mighty have fallen. Yeah,
falling like doors. In baseball, the Yankees battle back from elimination,
meaning we will all have to deal with their fans
for least the rest of this week. Psycha Boo boo.

Speaker 1 (33:49):
I wrote that before it was.

Speaker 3 (33:52):
So my god. But Judge had his moment in the
wrong game.

Speaker 1 (33:56):
Yeah, I mean he did save him for a brief
moment there, and then then the Jay's finished it off.
Yeah all right, let's see hockey started up. So if
you're wondering why all your white friends are excited now, you.

Speaker 3 (34:07):
Know, don Yeah, nam, I'm fully in that Caps loss
the other night. It was brutal. I mean, I'm fully
I'm fully in on like I'm deep. I'm doing a
deep dive this year in hockey. I've never done it.
I'm not I've always been like on the outskirts this year.
I mean, I'm full in on it, fully in, just
like for this is.

Speaker 2 (34:25):
A weird year for me with sports.

Speaker 3 (34:28):
It's a very weird year at the at U n
C or it's like we like some people call it
at unk. They're chatting by they got a real unk
running ship down there. You and see there's chatter buying
out Bill Belichick and his twenty four hero old girlfriend Jordan,

(34:51):
who is incidentally recently trademarked the brand gold Digger.

Speaker 1 (34:56):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (34:57):
That is true.

Speaker 1 (34:58):
That is true. Let's see. Apparently UNC will have to
put their dreams of being a football school on hold
and go back to just being Duke's basketball punching back, Like,
is that still the case? No, they're even these days.
But that's not how the joke works.

Speaker 3 (35:19):
I know. Sorry, I just trampled it with truth.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I should I should throw in an NC state reference
because they've been kind of winning that state.

Speaker 2 (35:28):
Yeah, right, they've been.

Speaker 1 (35:29):
They're the better team, it seems to be. As long
as Wake still sucks, nobody cares.

Speaker 3 (35:37):
Taylor Swift released her new album too much fanfare and
sold like a billion copies or whatever, causing the Chiefs
to run out of Jerseys the same weekend. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
Uh. And finally back here in DC, it's currently Pledge
Drive time on w A m U, which means that
we have to listen to all of Brian's ai Jans
instead of the real news. Yes, yeah, that's the headline.

Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
My kids are like, hey, is it that thing that
you hate when they do it on the radio, And
I'm like, yeah, it is, and they're like, what's it
called again. I'm like, oh, it's a fucking pledge drive
and They're like why do you hate it? And I'm
like because I already paid them and I just want
them to go back to telling me the news. And
they're like it sounds the same as the news.

Speaker 3 (36:24):
I'm like, oh my god, no it's not. You know
the pledge drive that was really good back in the day,
the w E t A ones where they would have
like the random things for like the kids, Like I
never got anything for those, but there was always like
a Thomas the Tank Engine type of thing that I wanted.

Speaker 1 (36:41):
I got a Burton Ernie. Oh wow, doll. I remember
begging and begging my mom because I didn't understand it
was a pledge drive.

Speaker 3 (36:49):
Yeah, you just like they're just toys on the TV.

Speaker 1 (36:52):
They're just like I'm watching you mean, there's a Sesame
Street toy.

Speaker 3 (36:57):
And I've not seen this toy anywhere else. I never
not a normal toilet. It's always something I've never seen.

Speaker 1 (37:04):
And I'm like, oh, we can get that. Look, all
you gotta do is call this number. My mom was like, no,
I have to give them money. I'm like, right, call
the number and give them the money. I will get
a Burton Nerdy and she I guess, I wind enough
and I and I finally I got it. But yeah,

(37:27):
it's uh, that was those were the days. Man. Also,
they would run specials, you know, so like you'd see
something kind of interesting new and they would couple that
with the Pledge Drive so people would tune in to
watch it. But uh, yeah, it's been uh, it's been like,
you know, can we get on with it? Right? But

(37:49):
apparently they've got a good, good response, speaking of w Amy,
if they really want to get the pledge shive open.
Have you heard the new guy that they got?

Speaker 3 (37:57):
No, I have not heard the new guy.

Speaker 1 (37:59):
Now, Spencer Bryant. He's on in the middle of the
day after Ester, John Mchielley and before the All Things
Considered afternoon host. This dude's voice is everything we want
in radio. Like I he's a younger guy, it turns out,

(38:19):
and he, like us, was a back seat kid, grew up,
you know, listening and dreams of becoming an NPR NERD
or host and is an NPR NERD. His voice is
like when you when you imagine like seventies radio DJ,

(38:40):
who's just telling you the coolest stuff in the world.
It's him.

Speaker 9 (38:46):
He's like, all right, welcome back to WAMU, thanks for
tuning in. I'm your host, Spencer Bryant, and hope you're
having a wonderful day.

Speaker 1 (38:55):
And I'm like, this guy, get him to do the play.
I'll give all the money. This guy's amazing.

Speaker 3 (39:03):
It's an intimate medium that you have to have the
right voice for.

Speaker 1 (39:07):
Oh my god, it's like butter this guy is. I'm trying.
I've been like messaging him on Instagram or whatever. I'm like, Yo,
we gotta get you on the show. Like we don't
even have a topic to ask you about. Just talk, Yeah,
I just want to listen to you talk for a while.

Speaker 3 (39:23):
Or we can we can find things for him to read. Yes,
that's what we should do. We can we find things
like could you read this from me?

Speaker 1 (39:30):
Then he'll never speak to us again.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Him, or you know what we could say? You know,
I love taking time off. We didn't have to do
the headlines for us, and then we'll.

Speaker 1 (39:38):
Come and then he will definitely never talk to us.
Oh my god, you've been reading the hold on. I'm
gonna do my my Spencer Brian voice and do one
of these. You're ready today?

Speaker 9 (39:55):
In a cabinet meeting, RFK Junior confidently declared that he
knew to studies that said circumcision causes autism. Of course
RFK Junior does love studying circumcisions children. Or how else would.

Speaker 1 (40:07):
He know.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
That that has a tinge of Pablo Tore in it.

Speaker 2 (40:12):
The way you're doing that.

Speaker 1 (40:13):
As well, it's it's I can't do it, obviously. I'm
if I could sound like that, I would all the time.
You think I want to sound.

Speaker 3 (40:23):
Like this, I mean, you'd have to just dive into it.
Because that's the other question is does it I would
love to see if that's the voice all the time
or if you're if you're because you know some people,
some people can turn it up for broadcasting.

Speaker 1 (40:37):
Oh yeah, they have to like their NPR voice. Yeah,
but like Susan Stanburg sounds like that all the time.
I met her in the hallways at NPR and she
just sounds like that all the time.

Speaker 3 (40:47):
Some, yeah, some, that is just how it is. I forgot.
I forgot what the what's it? And Brian should get this.
What's the wrestling term where the person is always on?
There's a wrestling Okay, that's what it look at you
all right?

Speaker 2 (40:57):
I feel good?

Speaker 3 (40:59):
You know stuff too? I mean had to go we
didn't have to go through the export. Didn't have to
go through the export, all.

Speaker 1 (41:05):
Right, speaking of experts, we've wasted a bunch of time.
So here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna our first break. No,
we're right on regular time. We were on CPT last
week schedule. Now we're back on JPT, which is way
behind schedule. Took us forty years to go next door.

(41:26):
How is that possible? Could walk there in a straight
line in like about a month, and no, it's like
forty years. It took the longest way possible. We heard
there was a deli we wanted to go Visit turns
out it was a mirage.

Speaker 3 (41:44):
Oh my Godmi mirage sounds terrible.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah, that's a not okay thing. Don't tell me there's
pastrami and then.

Speaker 3 (41:54):
I would lose my mind.

Speaker 1 (41:57):
Yeah, all right, let's say your break. We'll be right back.
You're listening to chip Chat on Beltway Radio and beyond.

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Speaker 1 (46:08):
All right, welcome back to Chip Chat here on Beltweigh
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Speaker 12 (46:16):
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Speaker 2 (46:16):
Rocking Brian?

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That was from? When I got back here?

Speaker 7 (46:25):
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album Songs for other People's weddings.

Speaker 2 (46:36):
That feels like a peer. That's kind of the title
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Speaker 3 (46:41):
But what what was it?

Speaker 13 (46:43):
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Speaker 3 (46:47):
Yeah, it feels like I'm dancing someone appear on the
Hudson somewhere I guess, yeah, you know, at some at
some other person's wedding.

Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, I'll buy that.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
Like that made me happy.

Speaker 1 (47:00):
All right. Now we've come to the part of the
show called the rundown. This is where I tell you
about some stuff that's darted out in the news. If
we were professionals, it would sound a little something like this.

Speaker 14 (47:17):
Yeah from Beltwait Radio and Beyond in Washington, DC, Emmy
nominated TV news man and just bona fide sexual beast
Jase Scott Smith. And this is the part of the
show where I tell some stuff about the well maybe
not me, but somebody else is gonna tell some stuff
about what's happening in the news.

Speaker 3 (47:33):
So what's going on in the news, fellas?

Speaker 1 (47:36):
Thanks Jay, shout out to the Tigers.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
Still in Still in It. That sound that played before
j was clearly the fake telephone that was in your
people's and like the fake cell phone in your people's
drug store from like nineteen ninety five. Clearly it's the
gray one. It's a gray flip one and there's.

Speaker 2 (47:57):
A button on.

Speaker 3 (47:58):
I know that sound has to be you had that
toy phone.

Speaker 1 (48:02):
I had that toy phone in nineteen ninety five. I
had a job.

Speaker 3 (48:10):
Well that's back when they left that's bat when yes, yeah, no,
I mean I yeah, labor laws.

Speaker 1 (48:18):
Yeah, it was still illegal. I had paper from school said.

Speaker 3 (48:23):
It was all right, all right, I want to get
to work from it papers.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 15 (48:29):
I was like, yeah, I had one of those two
paper yes, the good old work. Yeah, I had to
get a work for Yeah. All right, So we're gonna
we got a bunch of stuff in the rundown. But
the first thing that we do want to talk about
is the ceasefire so far in Gaza. Uh So during
the break I was able to get a little bit

(48:49):
caught up.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
It turns out that the Israeli cabinet or the ministers
did vote this through. I don't have a count on
who voted for.

Speaker 3 (48:57):
What far right right would have to vote for this
though for this to go through, right, well, there's no
way that I don't I've looked at the numbers of
like what that account would be to get it over there,
but they would have to be some of them.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
I think they basically, yeah, I don't know where Smotrich
and Benevie ended on this, but they might be willing
to play ball, you know, long enough. Here's what's gonna
happen though, is that theoretically in the next seventy two
hours or so, they're supposed to be an exchange of

(49:34):
hostages and the remains of dead hostages in exchange for
a bunch of Palestinian prisoners, and the IDF is supposed
to pull back to some perimeter and allow in a
bunch of aid. There's about two hundred US Service personnel
who are experts in logistics who are supposed to be
assisting in getting that aid into Gaza. The death Track

(50:00):
AID distribution centers that are currently operating are still currently operating.
They have not been told to fold up or stand
down yet, so it's not really clear what's going on there.
Palestinians are Ahamas wanted a written guarantee that the Israelis
wouldn't attack. They did not get that. They got a

(50:20):
verbal from Jared Kushner. So that's worth it's worth ounces
of gold. Yeah, And in theory then there's supposed to
be like a series of progressive steps towards an Israeli
withdrawal in like concentric rings. But there's no guarantee that

(50:43):
they leave entirely. And there's American security guarantees to make
the Israelis honor their bit of the deal, but those
are again all verbal, and even if they were written down.

Speaker 3 (51:01):
See guitar right, Yeah, like what.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
So if if you have to give odds or like
picking over under when this breaks down and and who
will initiate the breakdown? Where are you putting that at
ah Am?

Speaker 3 (51:25):
I I think there's a huge play around a lot
of money on the day after for Gaza in general.
And I think the larger plan, this twenty point plan
is huge. And I think right when even when you

(51:45):
bring back in Jared Kushner, that is a larger play
of him with the Abraham Accords, where I personally think
the Arab States sold out to like they so they
sold out to do that. I I've always felt certain
way about that. But I wonder if this doesn't break

(52:06):
down due to the fact I mean there's so many
like one, the fact that the state of Israel was
moving towards being and could be still there as a
parias state almost to the rest. I mean, if you
look at some of the responses from the UN and
the rest of the globe, No, it is changed. It's

(52:27):
a different vibe. It's clear from Europe to any other
place outside of the United States of America, it's like,
oh no, this has gone on too long, and what
like you're no longer defending what happened two years ago.
You're creating it's a genocide. So I think there's that
piece of it. I do think the Israeli public at

(52:49):
a certain point is over this in the sense of like, hey,
the hostage is like this has been a political play
for a long time now and seem to be trust
trying to protect Benjamin Yahoo. So like the public, it
seems that they are against this. Obviously. I think Donald
Trump is, while he won't act that this way, but

(53:12):
he's against this at the deepest levels in the sense
that he wants to play this deal.

Speaker 2 (53:16):
Maker of this peacemaker and get his Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 3 (53:19):
Obviously, that's it. Like everybody has all these other like
everybody has a lot of things they're trying to do.
I don't think this. I think this doesn't break down.
I I for some reason, I don't.

Speaker 1 (53:30):
Think the disparate interests of all these gives gives it
enough enough. Different groups have enough ulterior motives to kind
of hold a thing.

Speaker 3 (53:40):
Yeah, it's we and I could be off on this, right,
And it could be whether it's Ama saying nah, like
you didn't go through it, and then Israel's like, well,
then we're gonna start bombing again, or if it's there's
an issue with the transfers of prisoners either way, or
like the prisoners or the hostages either way, and he
there's a it's there's easy things that tip this over

(54:03):
the scale and everything goes back to how it was
in a bombing and killing children again. But I think
there's enough people in it now. It's like, no, well,
we're going to figure this out now. I don't see
the deal being.

Speaker 2 (54:18):
Advantageous to the Palestinians at all.

Speaker 3 (54:20):
I don't.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
I don't think that will end up happening.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Everything won't get the bombs don't stop, like hopefully that's
the one piece there.

Speaker 1 (54:27):
The only thing that's to the advantage of the folks
in Gaza is that the bomb stop and the aid
theoretically comes. I'm gonna guess here's what I think is
going to happen. The Israelis are going to get their
live hostages back, They're going to get some remains of

(54:53):
the dead hostages back, and then Hamas has already been
hedging and saying, hey, listen, this is going to be
complicated to find and get you all these pieces of
all of these dead people. Because it's been bombed to
smithereens and finding everything is going to be tough. I
think what happens is is one of two things, or

(55:15):
maybe both Hamas hands over stuff that isn't the right stuff,
which already did happen in the last exchange. Whether that's
on purpose or by error, it doesn't matter, and or
they will take a long time to deliver on the

(55:35):
remains of the dead hostages, which Net and Yahoo I
don't want to say these Raelies, but Net and Yahoo
will take as unacceptable and resume bombing. They'll pull the
aid out and they'll resume bombing. They will then tell
everybody that Hamas co opted all the AID for themselves,

(55:56):
that they were never going to deal with this fairly.
Because one's got their hostages out, there's nothing to stop
the Israelis from just resuming.

Speaker 3 (56:06):
I think that sends Donald Trump over the edge to
do what though, I mean, maybe it's something he's an
unp mean, he's been predictable with this. You could almost
say he's been as predictable as Joe Biden, right, So
what what does he have? I do think again, his
his need and want for a Nobel Peace Prize, Benjamin

(56:26):
Yet Naho's playing def and I think he cares more
about that than anything else. And maybe he does do
a drastic step that we haven't seen an American president do.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Two pieces on that one the clock on the novel.
We're gonna find out tomorrow, right because that Peace Prize
is going to be announced. If it isn't Trump, he's
gonna say, I see the whole world's against me. I
brought peace to the Middle East, and they still fucking
wouldn't give me this thing. Go ahead, bebe bomb all
you want. That could happen, That could happen. Uh if

(56:57):
Net and Yahoo defies the security guarantees that the Americans
have given Hamas what lever does the United States have
to stop them from continuing?

Speaker 3 (57:10):
And the only lever is there's one lever.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
There's only one. It's never been done.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
They're never gonna do that. That's there because the second
they do, Iran's gonna bomb. And and there's no American
president that wants to be the one. I don't care
whether they're as crazy as Trump for anybody else that
wants to be the one that allowed Iran to bomb Israel.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
But you can defend against that if he chose to
do that, the United States, the United States military could
defend against anything coming out of fucking Iran, that is
especially Iran at this point. Now, yeah, it's clearly that
could be defended against. Like the United States could still
play defense. We've seen them shoot missiles before and those
would get taken down by American defense like that. That

(57:54):
don't say that the protection of the state of Israel
isn't fucking going anywhere. I don't saying that, but I
do think any offensive stuff, and maybe it's not done
fully right, maybe it's not done fully. Maybe there's specific
things that get that get cut off, but that's the
only that's the only recourse. And I just think it
would make you would have you would have embarrassed Donald

(58:14):
Trump and in a certain way at that point if
the deal is like if all of this gets signed,
because I still think we're in a weird area. I
don't think we're there yet. But if we get two weeks,
three weeks into it doesn't go that long.

Speaker 1 (58:27):
It doesn't go that long. It goes it goes measure
it in hours. I think that I think that by
Monday the bombs are flying again, or maybe maybe Wednesday.
It depends, honestly, I really do and and I you
know disclosure Jewish, American Israeli cousins, some of which are

(58:50):
in the IDF. I think that the second they get
their hostages back, the living ones, the war starts again,
because there's just no reason to the Israeli public. Let's
be clear about where the Israeli public is on this.
They want their hostages back, and they don't want their
sons getting killed in war anymore. But they are overwhelmingly

(59:13):
supportive of the goal of Like, it's more than sixty
percent favorable in all the polling of eliminating Hamas, whatever
that means to them, that they that poll is even
higher than that, But in continuing the campaign seems to
be a popular thing. The general understanding in Israel about

(59:37):
the absolute catastrophic waste of Gaza is not understood or
ignored or disbelieved. They do not think that the people
are starving, they do not think that the number of
people are dead.

Speaker 3 (59:53):
Is at that daily interview with that woman who had
been the goal to go on and was like, I
will not speak about this, And that was one of
the crazier things I'd actually listened to that they're the
actual record, or the backlash that she received from just
saying like what was actually the truth?

Speaker 2 (01:00:12):
In fact, I care about the children and dead. Crazy
from my.

Speaker 1 (01:00:17):
Own conversations with people who I know to be otherwise
intelligent people with multiple degrees and successful careers. When you say, well, right,
but lots of people are dead. Here's you know, sixty
seven thousand, they say that's not the number. That's not real.

(01:00:38):
That's Hamas is making that up. It can't possibly be
that high. It's in the few, several hundred or something.
I mean, something completely off the wall. They don't think
that they're starvation. They think that the people and guys
are and if they are starving at Tamasa's fault, they
just accept no responsibility and no understanding of what's going
on in there. And that is writ large the majority

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of the Israeli society. So they're not really worried about this.
And I don't think the political pressure is there in
the way that you think it is. And I think
the political pressure is there in the other direction, because
the right wing wants this genocide to continue, and they
do want to steamroll the Palestinians or eliminate them in

(01:01:22):
some other fashion and take over Gaza. I don't know
what they want there. There's nothing valuable there, but they
want it and they want to they want to kill
these people and get them out of their life. And
if if we we're off next week, yeah right, But
if if by two weeks from now the war hasn't restarted,

(01:01:47):
I'll be shocked.

Speaker 3 (01:01:49):
No, I think. I think that's huge if that's the case.
The other question that as you say that for the
Israeli population is then I don't I the one thing
I have seen since the beginning of this war, and
I was getting where we're at now, and it is
American Jewish folks that I talk to do not feel
this way. It's it's been the largest I've ever seen

(01:02:11):
in any type of conflict that's happened in the state
of Israel where the American jew does not necessarily say, well,
I'm not gonna look at this with a critical eye.
I'm gonna look this as a survival and this is
the first And that is an interesting thing that I wonder,
how does that how do you square that circle going forward?

Speaker 1 (01:02:32):
I think long term, at least to the end of
the relationship as it currently stands right.

Speaker 2 (01:02:40):
That doesn't that's weird.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
I don't. I don't. I don't know how that like.

Speaker 1 (01:02:43):
I think ultimately, when the history books are written one
hundred years from now, they're going to point to Benjamin
Nett Yahoo as the demise of Israel in terms of
its uh special status with the United States and the
you know, unconditional support and backing because they have they have,

(01:03:05):
according to the polls, successfully lost the support of people
like me.

Speaker 3 (01:03:10):
It's very it's one of them. I would and I
would love to see this again, like the twenty thirty
years from now to your point in the history books,
of what the researchers look into this and as they
dive into the data and as this hardens for people
like because it's just one of the things I've just
never seen in my time here. And I just wonder

(01:03:31):
does it does any of that end up bleeding over
into the end into the folks who live actually in Israel.
I don't know. I just it's clear that you can't
continue on this path, and everybody is in danger if
you continue this way. And again, as you mentioned or
as someone else measures you, like Holy Holy Land, you know,

(01:03:52):
we could just it seemed to be a better.

Speaker 1 (01:03:58):
Great it's move. Yeah, it's the options that will exist.

Speaker 3 (01:04:04):
It's the best thing I've ever heard, clear as dad.

Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Clear, Well, it's it's maybe that's what they're up to.
They're building the parking lot now and it's just gonna
be in Gaza. I don't know. I mean, yeah it yeah,
I'll give it to Wednesday.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
To Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:04:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:25):
No.

Speaker 1 (01:04:26):
If they're supposed to get the hostages back within seventy
two hours, I think it goes maybe forty eight hours
after that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:35):
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:04:36):
I think what they would use instead of that would
be this moss disarmament. That's more where I don't know
how that what that looks like, because.

Speaker 16 (01:04:45):
There is no It literally takes one gun shot, right, yeah,
coming from some place for the idea have to claim
that Hamas shot at them, and.

Speaker 1 (01:05:02):
There'll be no way to prove whether that did or
didn't happen, and then they'll just go back to shooting.

Speaker 3 (01:05:09):
Really, the only way you stop that is the United
States troops that are involved in this with the rest
of the world. That's the really, because I do think
that is a line that if there are US troops.

Speaker 1 (01:05:22):
If an American soldier gets killed in this. Yeah, that
would stop things dead in their tracks. But that's why
they're not deploying anybody there.

Speaker 3 (01:05:31):
I wonder though, I want because there has to be
like to the security guarantees, right, there has to be something,
and I mean, I know there'll be Arab nations involved
in this, but America has to play the biggest part
in this.

Speaker 1 (01:05:44):
There's there's nothing that will actually work. Ceasefire took effect
within twenty four is to take effect within twenty four
hours of the vote, Israeli government spokeswoman shosh Bedrosian said.
During that window, Israeli forces are to withdraw from parts

(01:06:04):
of Gaza, including most urban population centers, while retaining control
of about half of the enclave. Humanitarian aid is supposed
to be surged to population that has been suffering hungering deprivation.
Hamas and allied militants will then have seventy two hours
to hand over the remaining twenty hostages believed to be alive,
as well as bodies of twenty eight deceased hostages. According

(01:06:27):
to the spokesperson, so there's no anything anything that holds
this in place. Before signing off on the first phase,
Hamas had wanted a written promise from the United States
that Israel would not resume its attacks in Gaza after

(01:06:47):
Palestinian groups hand over the hostages their only remaining source
of diplomatic leverage, which is very obviously the case. US
representative Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner rejected this demand, but
offered verbal assurances. Ring to Khaleid Okasha, an Egyptian consultant
who advised the Palestinian and Egyptian delegates at the talks.

(01:07:08):
Khalil al Haya, a senior Hamas official who Israel tried
to kill in Qatar like a week ago or two
weeks ago, said that the group received guarantees from US
officials and mediators that the war quote had fully and
completely ended. The wording of Trump's announcement Wednesday that the

(01:07:30):
preliminary ceasefire and exchange of hostages and prisoners were the
quote first steps towards a strong, durable, and everlasting piece
was understood by mediators in the region as a signal
that the president was committed to ensuring the war doesn't resume.
But there's nothing here that is like a trigger mechanism
that stops anything.

Speaker 3 (01:07:49):
No, and I mean even in The Times reported an
hour goes well. And this is the piece why I
think it does need to happen. It will be two
hundred American troops that are kind of work got like
a civil military coordination center, right that it's established in Israel,
like and they're just they're planners and things of that nature, right,
And there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Couple of but they're gonna be insur They're not gonna
be in Gosa.

Speaker 2 (01:08:11):
Yeah, they're not gonna be in Gods.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
And I think that is where it's That is where
you need American troops because that's the only thing I
think that will stop. I mean, they'll shoot journalists, they'll
obviously shoot Palestinians. I do not believe that they will
shoot US soldiers.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
I know. But if if the US personnel are in
Tel Aviv.

Speaker 3 (01:08:34):
That exactly they need to be in Gaza, then they're not.
They're not gonna be We'll see, I will see.

Speaker 1 (01:08:40):
They're gonna be in Tel Aviv helping plan things, and
then they're gonna then the war is gonna start again,
and then they're gonna leave, and they're gonna be like
that's it, We'll leaving. And then then the Israelis will
be like okay, and then boom.

Speaker 3 (01:08:57):
There's a lot of people. There's a lot of people
involved than this at this point that that do want.
I think see this come to an end, and.

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I want is good.

Speaker 3 (01:09:06):
It has to get to that and a certain what
is the mechanism. I have more faith in this having
a ceasefire than I have with Ukraine and Russia. I
will say that, well them this week, Yeah, exactly. We
don't even got time for that. We don't have the time.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
We don't even have time for this. We don't talk
about our own country, thank you. Let's talk about our
own country. They can't get our ship together.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Right, We're trying to go help the rest of the
fucking world. We need the fucking we need, we need
the we need peacekeeping troops in our own goddamn country needs.

Speaker 1 (01:09:39):
Keeping troops in the capital apparently. But yeah, so in
the midst of this government shutdown, don't worry, Scott Besson
did successfully deliver twenty billion with a B dollars to
Argentina today to stave off their most recent financial collapse,
because you know, Argentina goes through this pretty regularly with

(01:09:59):
which they are you seeing their twenty billion dollars to
offset their cost of selling soybeans to China that are
not being bought from the United States. Because this administration
hates farmers, then they floated this idea of a bailout
fund for the farmers who they've ruined, and the farmers

(01:10:21):
are like, we don't want to fucking bail out. We
want a functional market, right.

Speaker 3 (01:10:26):
The farmers are the last people like, all right, people
who really like bailouts, bankers, people who hate bailouts. Farmers, yeah,
who like the bottom of the liss They want to
they want to plant their crops, grow their crops. You
don't want a farmer, I do think would take a
bailout like natural disaster, severe drought.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Sure, that's why we have federal cropping ships.

Speaker 2 (01:10:50):
That is essentially that that's when they'll take a bailout.

Speaker 1 (01:10:53):
Not Yeah, if you hand a farmer a check and
tell him, you know, this is for your whatever, he's
gonna interpret that as you saying, oh you think I
can't do this like that? Is that is a that's
essentially calling him a failure, right, And uh, yeah, that's

(01:11:15):
a group that don't like that terminology at all. But
let's talk about our shutdown. So we are still we're
in what day nineteen thousand of the shutdown. I don't know.
It feels like it's just ongoing. It's going to continue
to go. The important thing here is we're want to
talk about who's gonna get paid? Okay, So, a draft
White House memo argues that furloughed federal workers are not

(01:11:38):
entitled to back pay after the government shutdown lifts. White
House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt told NBC News she admitted
to this. The memo that was first reported by Axios,
comes despite OPM's own September guidance that said that federal
workers will receive retroact of pay after the shutdown. You
want to know why, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:58):
It's so dumb because there's a one guy who helped
sign this into law.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Yeah, in twenty nineteen. You know who that guy was.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Yeah, the silliness that's going on, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Dollin himself. Yeah, all right, So in twenty nineteen, there
was the Government Employee Fair Treatment Act, and it was
signed in twenty nineteen after the last very long shutdown.
Because we've gone through a lot of shutdowns here in Washington,
we're very used to it at this point, which is
really disgusting and hard to say, but in most cases,

(01:12:36):
after the shutdown is over, Congress then passes a law
to back pay the federal workers who didn't get paid.
But there's no there was no guarantee that that would happen.
That sort of happened by tradition. But in twenty nineteen
they were like, this has happened too many times. We
can't let this happen. We're gonna put this in law,

(01:12:58):
say that everybody gets paid. Here's what the actual line
in the bit of code says, each employee of the
United States Government or of a District of Columbia public
employer furloughed as a result of a covered lapse in
appropriations shall be paid for the period of laps inappropriations.
It doesn't say that they have to be working without pay,

(01:13:22):
like the air traffic controllers of the TSA. It doesn't
say that that's subject to review by anybody. It just
says shall be paid. Shall is a big deal in law.
When you've got a shall, not a may or a will.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
No, that's definite.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
A shall is a you shall. Yeah, you've got to
do it.

Speaker 3 (01:13:45):
I mean, in the history of written texts, now shall
like whenever you drop those a shall, It's always been
the same in written texts.

Speaker 1 (01:13:54):
That is not a word that many of us use.

Speaker 3 (01:13:58):
I think.

Speaker 1 (01:13:59):
The only sense instead anybody uses the word shall.

Speaker 3 (01:14:01):
Is like shall we yeah, and it's I posed as
a question.

Speaker 1 (01:14:06):
Yeah shall we go? Yes we shall, But there's no no.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
I haven't like ever went to one of my direct
reports and like, you shall do this?

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Whoa an HR complaint waiting to happen? Hostile work environment?
This guy came at me with a show because.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
He's slanging ses, slanging shalls.

Speaker 1 (01:14:30):
Oh my god. So yeah, they're gonna try this nonsense.
This is losing court. But use me. They're not gonna try.

Speaker 2 (01:14:38):
They're gonna try.

Speaker 1 (01:14:40):
And if you know, if the goal is to traumatize
the federal workforce, it's a good way to do it. Yeah,
hang in there, Feds, please hang in there.

Speaker 3 (01:14:49):
We need you.

Speaker 1 (01:14:50):
It turns out they need you too after they dozed
half of you, like hey, come back.

Speaker 3 (01:14:56):
The Trump quote and this is always fucking it was
insane because I remember reading when I saw oh yeah, boy,
though no exactly, I asked about the White House's position
on back pay President Donald Trump toe reporters quote, I
would say, it depends on who we're talking about. He added,
for the most part, we're going to take care of

(01:15:16):
our people. There are some people ever really don't deserve
to be taken care of, and we'll take care of
them in a different way. That's crazy. That is a
crazy thing to write and to say out loud.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
I listened to my boss. Yes, he talks like this.
I want to be Corleone like that exactly. I believe
the actual name is dumb Corleone. That's yeah, it's Don's cousin.
It's yeah. Okay, I'm offending like a fifth of you.

(01:15:51):
I don't know how much your percentage, but I'm twenty five,
twenty five, Yeah, okay, I've offended one one fourth of
Tesz's makeup and Mike Rica and Mike Rico. He's more
Italian than.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
You're definitely more Italian. I think it's his mother is
fully Italian. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:16:09):
Well, and I sent you that video.

Speaker 3 (01:16:11):
Uh yeah, that was insane.

Speaker 1 (01:16:16):
If you're black and Italian, shout out to you. Please
come on our show. We think you make up a
big chunk of our audience. Of course, all right, so
let's go on to another fed or former fed one
jim Comy.

Speaker 3 (01:16:28):
Poorkby, what are you sure you mean to say that?
I know poor Kobe, I mean, I mean all of
this is his fucking fault anyways, Yes, to be honest, actually,
but then I start saying his fault and then I'm like, well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:42):
If I drink deeper, is it John McCain's fault.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
What's their paling I dig deeper?

Speaker 1 (01:16:48):
It'ss no, there are predecessors that got us here, but
fucking yeah, that.

Speaker 2 (01:16:52):
Guy, yeah, he's up there. That guy, yeah, he he
did this to himself man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:00):
And said Hillary did it. I'm just not going to
prosecutor for it, Like, dude, shut the fuck up it.
Him and Ralph Nader are like, dude that I'm just
like these guys, all right, you want to know some
like crazy shit. I was driving the other day and

(01:17:23):
I saw a couple of Chevy Corvets together. They were
clearly like people in a corvert club meeting at this place.
And I saw the corvets and I was like, oh,
that's the reason that we have this fucking situation, and
like a million Iraqis are dead. And my children were like,

(01:17:46):
what the fuck are you talking about? Because that's how
my kids talk right right and uh, and I was
like yeah, because of that car, this guy Ralph Nader
got famous, and then he made George W. Bush president
and we had a fucking war. And they they were
like struggling, obviously to connect those dogs. They didn't even

(01:18:08):
know what a car is, but let alone what a
corvet is. But that that is true, that car caused
the Iraq war.

Speaker 3 (01:18:21):
Could have been different, could have been okay.

Speaker 1 (01:18:24):
So Jim fucking Comy, who was the FBI director, he
was FBI director when Trump was sworn in. He was
running the investigation that turned up all of the collusion
between Trump and Russia that Trump says isn't collusion. Then
Trump fired him, and the Mueller investigation was put in
to sort of like quell some of this that obviously

(01:18:47):
turned up a lot of stuff that then trumpled about
and said he didn't do it or whatever, and they
fired Jeff Sessions and blah blah blah blah blah. Since then,
Jim Comy has been like number one on Trump's hit
list of people that he wants if he ever got
in charge again, if you ever got the control back then,
he was gonna ruin this guy's life right, and he's like,

(01:19:10):
we're gonna investigate the investigators, We're gonna throw him in jail,
We're gonna do all this stuff. He attacked his daughter,
got her fired, threw her off the case because she
prosecuted who did she prosecute? Did he? But also, yeah,
went after his son in law because he prosecuted like

(01:19:33):
some January sixth stuff and a bunch of other things.
So he's like, yeah, Komy lied to Congress, and Comy's like,
I don't think I lied to Congress, but like the
testimonies all there, like go ahead and take a look, right.
So Trump goes, all right, I need a US attorney

(01:19:54):
in the Eastern District of Virginia for whom this is
the jurisdiction to investigate and pro cute this guy and
and indict him and stuff. Right, So he appoints this dude,
Eric Severer I think is his name, and he goes
go put Tomy in jail, and see, he was like,
all right, I'm gonna do my best, right. So he

(01:20:15):
goes looks through all the evidence and he's like looking
through that and he's like, I can't find any any
And he's like asking his buddy's like, did you find anything?
And they're like, no, we didn't find anything. He's like
did you did you find anything? And they're like we didn't.
The boss wants something like we don't have anything. It's like,
what are we gonna do. It's like, well, we got
two choices. We can make something up or we can
say that there's nothing there and sorry, we can't do

(01:20:38):
anything about it. So he went with the second choice,
and he's like, I can't do anything about it. Uh
don't know, okay, So what happened? Trump fired him and uh,
and he appointed Lindsey Halligan, who is a third runner
up in some fourth rate beauty pageant. That's true, right,

(01:21:00):
She's an insurance lawyer. She has never prosecuted anything ever
in her life, and appointed her the US Attorney for
the Eastern District of Virginia on an interim basis. So
he's got one hundred and twenty days until he tries
to break that wall again, as we talked about last week, yep.
And so she's like, all right, Boss, I'm gonna do it.

(01:21:21):
I'm gonna get the indictment. Right. So she's like looking
through the thing and she's like, I don't see anything.
And it's like, well, what did the last guy do.
It's like, well, he didn't see anything either. She goes,
I'm gonna make something up.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
The first choice.

Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Yeah, And her team was like, we're not going to
help you with them, and she goes, don't worry, I'm
gonna do it myself. So she goes to the grand
jury and she had like twenty some odd members on
the grand jury or thirty two. I'm sorry, there's thirty
two members of the grand jury got to get twelve

(01:21:55):
to get an indictment. She got fourteen votes, which means
not even a majority of the grand jury voted for
an indictment. She gets the indictment. It's two pages. Normally,
when you have a lying in front of Congress or
like lying to the federal investigators indictment, it's long because
there's all of the examples where you lied, where you

(01:22:19):
conspired to lie, where you you know, obstructed justice whatever, right,
But it's only two pages. There's nothing in it. And
so she's like, all right, well we're gonna go to trial.
And so they had the arraignment today or yesterday, okay, yesterday, Tuesday,
I don't know, earlier this week, right, this week. And

(01:22:43):
here's the weird thing. She had to do the prosecute
in herself. She had to be the one. Political appointees
never do not have it. It's not how this works, right,
because their job is really oversee the office. Yeah, the
line prosecutors who are supposed to do these things, but
no one yet she couldn't get anybody to do it.

(01:23:03):
Do you want to know why?

Speaker 3 (01:23:05):
Why? Because it's blatantly illegal.

Speaker 1 (01:23:08):
Yes. And if you are a barred lawyer in the
Commonwealth and you participate in a vindictive prosecution, you get
this barre. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Uh, Lauren's not messing their money up like that, right.

Speaker 1 (01:23:28):
They did. They don't want to lose their careers. So
she brought into two guys from North Carolina, who I
guess maybe they don't have that rule.

Speaker 3 (01:23:36):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:23:37):
And so they're the ones like helping her with the case.
Then the Tiss James stuff broke today. She's doing that too, right,
And again she has to be the one to do
it herself. So Kobe is like, yeah, we're gonna like,
let's have a trial. He went on Instagram yet his
video He's like, so let's have a trial. Let's do it. Right.

(01:23:59):
But here's my favorite bit about in this story. Let's see, Okay,
the judge scheduled to try to begin January fifth, that's
an interesting choice of dates.

Speaker 3 (01:24:12):
Well, care for what you asked for, yep.

Speaker 1 (01:24:14):
But Fitzgerald said that Komy's defense team plans to file
a series of emotions by the end of the year.

Speaker 3 (01:24:20):
Tried to dismiss the ship. Yeah, yes, do you.

Speaker 1 (01:24:23):
Want to hear the list of reasons to dismiss the case. One,
they're trying to seek dismissal of the case on the
grounds that it constitutes a vindictive prosecution. Number one, that
the grand jury process has been abused. Basically, she presented
sets of conflicting evidence that the Justice Department has exhibited

(01:24:45):
outrageous conduct, and that the interim US attorney that Trump
installed with directions to charge Comy was illegally appointed. That's
four things.

Speaker 3 (01:24:58):
Seems strong. It seems you can get three those at least,
just gotta get one, right, one, But you could easily
get three.

Speaker 1 (01:25:04):
And if they get it dismissed, they can try it again.
But it's gonna be tough. Now if they go to
the trial and it gets acquitted, double jeopardy, right, right,
scot free can't do shit about it, whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:25:21):
Evidence, unless they start just like snatching judges off, Like
maybe he just gets to like the full on like
fascists and they just start aborting judges that I'm gonna represent. Yes,
that is that's where we hope it does not get.

Speaker 1 (01:25:35):
Two months ago, he sued the entire Maryland federal bench.

Speaker 8 (01:25:39):
It didn't go well though for him. No, but he
sued the entire vegement whole bench. So we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
Godspeing Jimmy, we hope you avoid this ridiculous, vindictive prosecution
and then shut the fuck up and go away forever,
like you're you're just a problem.

Speaker 2 (01:26:02):
Here's the question.

Speaker 3 (01:26:03):
And I asked this the other day to somebody else, like, well,
eventually when this change is over, right and Democrats are
in power, or let's just say some random independent just
galvanizes the friggin nation and they let's just say it.
They didn't say it's not even a Democrat, right, Let's
say somebody else and they're like, well, you know, now,
as I look back on everything that's happened over this administration,

(01:26:26):
like hopefully like over the four years and doesn't continue
on perpetuity.

Speaker 2 (01:26:30):
It's a dictatorship.

Speaker 3 (01:26:32):
But they look back and they say, no, Steven Miller,
you've broken the law. H R's a vote, You've broken
the law. Pam BONDI, you've broken the law. You go
through all these people who have broke who've actually actually
broken the law, how do you charge them? Because all
of this will always be painted as political retribution? And

(01:26:55):
I think the difference like someone will because you know,
there will always be the folks to say, well, Biden
shouldn't have prosecuted Trump or any of these other folks.
But I'm like, no, The difference between that and this
is that there's a mountain of evidence, right, there is
no when you have these two page documents. When you
look at those documents, they're fucking forty eight pages, fifty

(01:27:16):
pages long of.

Speaker 1 (01:27:18):
There's jacks of boxes in the goddamn bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:27:21):
Right. I just wonder, how do you do you get
Do you get a president that goes in eventually and says,
we're not prosecuting these people, We're not gonna do that
because this is and then but then I sit back
and say, but what about the rule of law and
nobody else?

Speaker 1 (01:27:37):
You can't do that if if rule of law is
ever re established in this country post Trump, whenever that is,
it will require these people to go to jail. Under
the jail, it will it will require that this country.
And there was an attempt to do this, but the
wheels moved too slowly during the last four years. But

(01:28:01):
there needs to be swift and uh solid, provable beyond
any doubt. And that was kind of what you saw
with the j six Commission and what uh Cheney and
Shift and then we're trying to do, which was to
establish this evidence so crystal clearly that when it inevitably

(01:28:23):
is challenged as being political retribution, you can say it
isn't and go read this and and knowing that a
good chunk of people just aren't gonna believe it. But
the clapback has to be strong. The moral center of
the electorate has to say, this is never gonna happen again.
We're gonna do I mean, if you if you Congress

(01:28:46):
laws allow Yeah, there would need to be a real,
very solid response whether and that's got to be like
a decade long like kind of thing where everybody gets
the evidence out. There's consensus amongst the mainstream of both

(01:29:07):
political parties right. This thing is bad. It's got to
get handled, and it sort of ends up in maybe
like a Germany sort of situation, where you know, certain
activities are forever banned or under surveillance or whatever, and
we're just not going to have that again. If you
look at the center left and the center right in Germany,

(01:29:29):
if there's any there's certainly no daylight between them in
terms of whether fascism or Nazis are bad. They all
agree that that is bad. They want to make sure
that that never happens again. We need something like that,
but that's going to require that the majority of Republicans flip,
because right now, the majority of people who identify as

(01:29:51):
Republicans are fine with this level of fascism.

Speaker 3 (01:29:55):
They shouldn't be, because if this was getting flipped on
the other end for them, that would look insane.

Speaker 1 (01:30:02):
But they don't think that's ever gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:30:04):
That. I think people should be very because that would
be the reason I would be trying to make that deals.
Because God forbid, again Democrats get in and someone is like, no,
we're not, We're gonna we'll play the same game.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
Right in mind, they called a tan suit fascism, so
like their concept of what is and what isn't the
end of the Republic are really different.

Speaker 3 (01:30:27):
I also think this country has an issue with calling
like the history what it is. And then do you
look at something like I mean you look at the
Civil War and right at the end of that, right
you bring back in people who have actually rebelled against
the country and say it's okay. You know what if
you're a white I'm white, it's all right. And I
wondered if you look at it like you have some

(01:30:47):
daughters of the Maga movement and like you have a
bunch of like.

Speaker 1 (01:30:50):
White the problem is that that was handled poorly.

Speaker 3 (01:30:54):
He yeah, we see what it got us.

Speaker 1 (01:30:56):
It's exactly what.

Speaker 3 (01:30:57):
It got us.

Speaker 1 (01:30:57):
The losers got to write the story. Yeah, so you
haven't let that happen again.

Speaker 3 (01:31:02):
You can't have it let that happen again. And I
do think but there is like strong laws, like stronger
than anything we saw that came out of Watergate, Like
it has to be. You almost have to use Watergate
as like a that can be a blueprint, but you
gotta take it ten times stronger.

Speaker 1 (01:31:19):
At this well, nobody conceived of this.

Speaker 3 (01:31:22):
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, But now it's here, and
now there's and now there is a time. I mean,
and they wrote about this in The Atlantic in the
last issue. It's like the amendments to the Constitution need
to eventually happen like that, like that is still an option.
Everybody I know we look at that as being like
so crazy, we can't do that. But it is a
document meant to be amended. I don't care what anybody says.

(01:31:44):
It is set up to be changed, and whether it's
laws in Congress or a mending it. And I do
one thing I do agree with that. I'm it's that
we've used the Supreme Court to try to amend the
Constitution little too much of actually doing and actually doing
amendments and going through the long, strenuous and maybe again
it's probably too hard to amend the Constitution. Maybe we

(01:32:07):
should look at that as well too, because I do
think it's the two thirds, especially the way like the
way this country is set up at this point, that
might be too strong. But yeah, no, it's clear.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
That's what I'm talking about. It It requires the big
bolescing of the middle to come together and to take
a very serious and long term, concerted look at this
to fix it. And because we thought we had that
after Watergate, right, that was and I think we did
so we kind of did, and it and and but

(01:32:39):
just like with a war, right, you're always fighting the
last war. Yeah, they so the laws were written to
prevent another Nixon, and nobody conceived.

Speaker 3 (01:32:47):
Of Trump, right, it was the worst it could be.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Well, and to that point, and to most people's minds,
that was the worst you could have was a president
with an enemy's list of president who orchestrated criminal activity
on his own behalf, who lied about it and covered
it up, who was running secret weapons programs, and all
kinds of other things, who invaded Cambodia, Like, there are

(01:33:13):
so many things that were despicably un American about what
Dick Nixon did. And the Postwatergay laws were put in
place to stop somebody else from doing it. You know
what Trump did. Trump not only did worse things, but
he also figured out he could just break the law

(01:33:33):
and dare somebody to come after him. So in order
to fix that, you almost need some sort of like
super authority that would be able to supervise the regular authority.
And I don't know how you can even do that
in an American system, because here again you have this

(01:33:53):
problem of enforcement. Right, who is it that adjudicates all this, like,
look at this Hatch Act stuff, right, yeah, Okay, the
Hatch Act says you can't use the federal agencies for
partisan things and whatever. And it really even like explicitly
prohibits federal employees from expressing too much partisan views and
all kinds of things like that in a public fashion

(01:34:14):
or in their capacity as their job. And what do
we have here the president is it's got his agencies
putting their out of office emails and their website saying
the goddamn Democrats caused a shut down. And if you go, hey,
that's a violation the Hatch Act. The way the Hatch
Act is written, that gets reported to the Office of

(01:34:35):
Independent Council, which was set up to be outside the
control of the White House and deal with whistleblower complaints
that were coming from within the executive branch. But instead
what happened is Trump fired the Office of Independent Council
and basically made the claim that that's really an executive
branch agency anyway, and he would have to be the

(01:34:55):
one to enforce the Hatch Act even if somebody did
issue a complaint. That's the kind of thing that our
system has not considered. What if you have a lawless president, right,
a lawless executive? We have one. Now here's your example.

(01:35:15):
So yeah, Well, I mean, if if we survive this
as a republic, which we will, we will have to
make some serious changes to prevent this from happening again, because,
as you mentioned, he was elected twice. Right, somebody with

(01:35:37):
malintent or maybe even with good intent, but willing to
you know, cut some corners and break some ankles to
do it, might say, hey, that's a pathway.

Speaker 7 (01:35:51):
Okay, didn't I say about over a month ago, maybe
two months ago? He should never been in this in
the ballot in the first place.

Speaker 3 (01:36:02):
Well, yeah, the republiclic there was a mechanism to do that,
and the Republicans, getting back to Chips, issue that the
actual majority of folks wouldn't do that because there is
a mechanism inside a primary. Yeah, I mean call the primary.
But even then, like a full on impeachment from the
when when he send his supporters to run and rams

(01:36:23):
at the Capitol. There was a way to destroy this
at one time, and we were so close it felt
like we were real I dot It's hard to describe
that time because it felt like, oh, it's over with y'all. Okay,
this is gone on too long, Like we saw it,
from Lindsey Graham to Mitch McConnell to all these people.
We saw it and and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:44):
Again it failed.

Speaker 3 (01:36:46):
They're scared.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
We got to the part where like Luke turns off
his scanner, yeah and fires the photon torpedoes into the
exhaust port, and they deflect, like that's what we got,
and they deflected. That's where we got. We got that close.

(01:37:10):
And Mitch Graham, whoever, Rastley, all of them looked around
and were like, you know what, No, I want this thing.
I want this guy who sent his horn wearing thugs
to kill Mike Pence. I want him to be okay,

(01:37:34):
and I want him to come back.

Speaker 3 (01:37:35):
I found I, in my deepest hearts, don't know if
they wanted him to come back. I do think they
didn't want to be the ones to drive it, right,
because it puts a target on their backs, right. And
I do think a lot of folks thought that the
American people would never go for this again. But I
do think random things that end up happening after a

(01:37:56):
freaking pandemic and inflation to people like my head, pratices
are too He's going to bring them out.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
And senators were open about this in several instances that
they literally feared for their lives if they've got to beach.

Speaker 3 (01:38:08):
Yeah, and so how do you? How do you? How
do you? Because in lots of things, when people move
in fear, they give up all of their rights. We
can see that, and we see Congress moves in fear,
and it's given up all. And I need Congress. I
need Congress to pass the laws and to be a

(01:38:29):
check on the executive. And that is no longer the case.
And there's another and they're moving to take it where
they make the executive as strong as possible, which I
think will eventually backfire. I think it's already. And when
a Democrat, a liberal democrat, is in the presidency and says,

(01:38:50):
you know what, we're not playing by the rules. All
rules are over it. We're sending the money to the
D O D. Yeah, I mean that's crazy. Yeah, Okay,
I hear what you guys are saying, and I agree,
mind you, you're preaching it a choir. But my few
point here is, like I said about a couple of
months ago. You should never been here. The man was

(01:39:14):
already convicted, he was waiting sentencing. And I know Chip you,
I remember you saying the fact it's like, oh, due
to the fact of you know, you know, the laws
of the land, because of the fact it's like, well,
you know, you can't put you prevent a person from
running office, you know, even though he's in trials and
all that stuff. And it's like, okay, but this man

(01:39:36):
was already convicted, okay, And I felt like I felt
like it's like, you know, and you're saying, it's like,
how do you deal with a lawless president? Simple? You
know full wellness, man is lawless?

Speaker 1 (01:39:49):
Yeah, but who is the authority that adjudicates that and
takes him out? Hello?

Speaker 7 (01:39:54):
If you keep saying we have these laws and we
have these judges and all that stuff, but here's the
unfortunate thing here, this is the unfortunate thing we have.

Speaker 13 (01:40:05):
And I know you you haven't mentioned, but you kind
of you know.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Skim sufficiency.

Speaker 7 (01:40:11):
Yeah, it is the simple fact that the fact that
is like when the Republicans want to have you know,
our big babies, and they want to keep maintain power,
they let everything slide. They did it with Bush one,
they did it with Bush two, and they're doing with
Trump one and two because of the fact that's like
they know full well since Nixon, since Nixon, they were

(01:40:34):
in a losing battle because that man pretty much gave
him of black eye. You can never imagine. And even
though Reagan's policies made him a lot of money and
all that stuff, but really they were really shitty, because
it's well evident forty years later these they were bad.

Speaker 1 (01:40:55):
You said forty years later in reference to Reagan, that's
not that's offensive, and I want you to take that.

Speaker 7 (01:41:02):
But anyway, AnyWho, Yeah, okay, But the point here is
is the fact that it's like, you know, for the
Republican Party, if you think about it, if it wasn't
if Reagan never appeared, let's put it that way, we
would have a list full of Democrats being present for
for these last fifty years. Carter could have had two

(01:41:24):
Carter could have had two runs. You can throw in
somebody else, and we could have had you know, Al
Gore could have replaced it, you know Clinton afterwards, we
get we have our two Obama runs and all that stuff.

Speaker 13 (01:41:39):
We would not see a Republican for a good long time.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
It's not good for the country to be under one
party rule for a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:41:47):
Yeah, I wish it was like I need a strong
Republican party. It's not crazy. Yeah, And Brian, think about
think about how this Republican Party has been for all
this time since Reagan.

Speaker 7 (01:42:00):
You're running hungry. They're power hungry, and they're bait and
they're spoiled. They do not want to work at all.

Speaker 3 (01:42:07):
Okay, they're just like want to stick sit back and
rely on the the the legacy of Reagan and and
all that stuff, and then rely on a mad man
who doesn't.

Speaker 13 (01:42:17):
Know what the hell is going on.

Speaker 1 (01:42:19):
I don't care about any of that. Love of that all.
You're probably right about a lot of these things. But
like you're appealing as if there's some like replay booth
that you can go talk to to like argue the
umpire's decision. There isn't. Okay, there is there is.

Speaker 7 (01:42:38):
The unfortunate thing is it's like they none of those
people in there want to want to remember it or Betty,
I want to talk about it, Yeah, but care about it?

Speaker 1 (01:42:48):
Who do you think you're appealing to? Who would take
Trump away? Who would who would make this get fixed.
There's nobody there, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Not I know that, we know that, all three of
us know that there is no Republican leader. You know,
the men you've mentioned are not have the damn balls
to say this guy is wrong. Well, because they want
to stay and stay in that seat, and like you
said earlier, because of the fact of fear factor.

Speaker 7 (01:43:15):
Because all this, you know, the Trump you know, Trump
pieces will probably go after their heads because they went
against their leader.

Speaker 1 (01:43:23):
Yes, so you need a fundamental change at the grassroots level.
It's not going to come from the top. It's certainly
not going to come from a bunch of Mitt Romney's
somehow getting in control of the party and being like
we're going to establish decency. It's that is not going
to happen. What you need to do is get the
people at the ground level who feel wronged by the

(01:43:44):
system to correctly assess who is it that's doing the
thing to them, and that is a very difficult task.
You can watch Marge kind of like poke at this.
She's kind of she's a good example of somebody who's
like amorphously angry. She's pissed off. She doesn't know quite

(01:44:09):
at what she knows, she and the people like her
are getting a raw deal, but they don't know who
is it that's doing it to them, and they think
that it's the goddamn Democrats and the Jews and the
globalists or whatever. But when they get close to it
and they look and they kind of poke a little
hole in the paper and they look through it, and

(01:44:30):
they go, oh, wait a minute, it's these guys. They're
the ones who are doubling the insurance premiums for my
adult children, she says. And she goes, oh, wait a minute,
it's these guys who won't release the Epstein fire. It's
like if people in Marge's situation were a tiny bit

(01:44:53):
educated about how things actually work, they would probably come
to a better realization. She got a crash course in
it because she ended up in Congress, and when she
went to go throw bombs and say things that were
crazy and off the wall, it didn't work because that
isn't the mechanism. But if you're a guy in a

(01:45:14):
parking lot outside of tractor supply, arguing or chatting with
your buddies, and you go, yeah, well that's how they
get you, you know, that's what they do None of
those people would have passed high school Civics. None of
those people have any idea about the three branches of government.
They certainly don't understand how budgets and appropriations are, none
of that stuff, none of that stuff. But if they did,

(01:45:36):
there's no way they would hold on to the same
conclusions that they currently hold. So you just got to
figure out how to get them like a tenth of
the information in a way that they're gonna believe it.
There was a story today on NPR that said that
Republicans in the polls that they conducted now trust RFK

(01:45:58):
Junior as much as they try us their own personal doctor.
This is a guy who today called everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:46:06):
There's also sent to people that there's also sixty people
that think he's a lunatic.

Speaker 1 (01:46:11):
Yes, but amongst Republican voters, the numbers are way higher,
and they love him and they believe him, and they
are they are sorting their medical choices by their partisanship,
and and this is going to cost lives, thousands of lives,
maybe maybe more, and they're not going to learn from this.

(01:46:34):
So like your appeal to this thing of like, hey,
you guys, you definitely know better wake up, rejoin the
rest of reality, get back together, and cast this out
of your party so that you can go back to
actually getting some of this great American pie that you
want to slice of, or trying to get some sort
of progress on your own wife, financial, educational, whatever. They're

(01:47:00):
not gonna get that. They're gonna it's either gonna be
the Barge or Darwin that's gonna come for that.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
And I think I, like I said, you're preaching to
the choir here with that stuff. Yeah, but I say
you should never have been allowed to. Who could have
disallowed it? Those people aren't going.

Speaker 7 (01:47:18):
To do it, because well, here's the thing, this is,
this is this, here's here's a possible change that I've
I've said this many times even on this show. You
have to there is no way in the world a
senator and a congressman should be in a seat longer
than a president.

Speaker 13 (01:47:37):
It makes no sense.

Speaker 7 (01:47:38):
You got guys in there in the Constitution that says then,
like I said, you said, amendments, you want amendments. That's
that's been one.

Speaker 3 (01:47:47):
Of the changes.

Speaker 2 (01:47:48):
Seventy amendments in this constitution.

Speaker 3 (01:47:50):
It's like maybe there's a hundred amendments we.

Speaker 1 (01:47:53):
Can't even ratify the one that says that people are equal.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
Yeah, we're still trying to do that one.

Speaker 3 (01:47:59):
I know, it's too difficult to amend the Constitution. It's
too difficult. It's not too difficult, it is. It's very difficult. Here,
here's why it's you say it's too different. It's too
difficult because of the fact that it's like you got
a whole bunch of people that have been there, been
in there for as long as probably Washington was born.

Speaker 13 (01:48:18):
You want to stay in there. That's why it's been difficult.

Speaker 3 (01:48:22):
Well, it's a country to do. I need someone to
propose an amendment first, right to have the strength of
courage to propose, which they get proposed.

Speaker 7 (01:48:31):
It's been they have, but you need there has been there,
There has been some reported documents of the like.

Speaker 3 (01:48:38):
They have process. It is hard for the federal government.
But if you look at state legislative legislation, there it's
easier to approve constitution state constitutional amendments.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
States, Yes, should.

Speaker 3 (01:48:53):
Look at that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:54):
Some states can do it pretty easily. Some states it
makes it very difficult. But again that's federal system, and
that's that's just what we've got. I mean, if you
want to amend the constitution, you have to get that
amendment proposed. It's got to get voted on by two
thirds majorities in both houses, and then it has to
be ratified by three quarters of the states a lot,

(01:49:16):
and and they have to raif it.

Speaker 7 (01:49:18):
I think a lot of lot. If you say three quarters,
pretty much, I think that could be passed. There's I
really think there's a lot of a lot of states.

Speaker 17 (01:49:26):
Hasn't you can't do it? Yeah, yeah, it hasn't, and
and it hasn't. But again, yes, they have tried.

Speaker 1 (01:49:36):
The Equal Rights Amendment passed out of Congress in the
late seventies, and it is still waiting for the enough
state legislatures to ratify it for it to even be
potentially And people say that it's you know, there's some
legal question about whether that's still even eligible. Uh, you know,

(01:49:56):
if it did happen, they're not even close.

Speaker 5 (01:50:01):
It is.

Speaker 1 (01:50:01):
It is so difficult to get consensus in this country.
That's what this the The difficulty of passing an amendment
is essentially a consensus test. And if you want to
do something that will drastically alter the way the country operates,
you probably want it to be something that everybody or

(01:50:23):
nearly everybody wants to have happened.

Speaker 7 (01:50:26):
Okay, So then so pretty much here's the thing where
relying on based only what you just said, so pretty much,
where're relying on our representatives.

Speaker 13 (01:50:37):
To vote for all this yes, coming to us to
vote for it as a as a voter.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
There you're telling me I have to rely on my representative.

Speaker 5 (01:50:47):
To this pass.

Speaker 1 (01:50:49):
That's right.

Speaker 13 (01:50:49):
There is no mechanism where I feel this is the problem.

Speaker 1 (01:50:52):
Is okay, but the constitution does not allow for direct
voter ballot initiatives to changange the constitution or to make
an amendment. It is a representative government. We are at republic.
That is how this works. They can't.

Speaker 13 (01:51:09):
That's why I think that the change needs to be.

Speaker 1 (01:51:12):
But you're you're not understanding.

Speaker 3 (01:51:14):
I understand it.

Speaker 7 (01:51:15):
No, I understand it, truly, I do understand. I understand
the fact that where this country is now is fully
relying on individuals who claim that they have our best
interest in heart, which they do not, because either they're
being funded by some corporation that we do not know
about or whatever. They have their own personal interest they have.

(01:51:38):
Those are pretty much the reasons why they're still in
that still in that seat.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Those that.

Speaker 3 (01:51:45):
Support you know, like let's say the AOC I like
her because she's independent thinking, she knows what she's talking about,
and she's she's beenden through the dirt like everybody else.

Speaker 1 (01:51:55):
Okay, but none of that's really relevant. The Constitution was,
it was signed, it was ratified by the States, and
that is the thing that we as a country, as
a republic, have decided to use as our basis of government.
And it spells out specifically how amendments can take place,

(01:52:20):
and they require that process. Right, the Congress has to
vote on it, and it then has to be ratified
by the states, and the state legislatures, which are also
made up of representative government, have to vote on it.
We have a republic. We do not have a democracy
in the sense of a direct, one man, one vote democracy.

(01:52:41):
We have a republic. That is how it was set up.
That is what we have agreed to as a country.
There is no other mechanism if you want there to
be a direct to voter issue. Some states have ballot
initiatives that allow you to do certain things that way,
but fundamentally, state constitutions often require both the legislature and

(01:53:05):
a ballot initiative or a referendum to pass. Some states
require that, some states don't. But the federal government, the
United States Constitution has a process. And no matter what
you think should be right, or what there should be
term limits, or what there should be, who gets the
vote on it? That isn't what it says. And we

(01:53:26):
have no other mechanism other than what is in the constitution.
There's no higher authority to appeal to. There's no do over,
there's no var there's nothing. There is just what's written
on that piece of parchment by a bunch of slave
owning white guys in the seventeen eighties. And that's the process.

(01:53:50):
You don't like it, tough shit, that's it.

Speaker 3 (01:53:56):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
I don't know what to tell you. You can wish
things were better, but there's nobody to appeal to.

Speaker 7 (01:54:02):
Then, like like I've said before, then all of this is,
this whole cycle is going to repeat itself.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Well, no, I mean you got to use the mechanism.
I mean, here's the thing, right, this has gone on
too long. It shows yes, yes, exactly you you did
this anyways, But there are mechanisms to make changes in
this country, and those mechanisms have worked in the past. Now,
anytime there's been amendments to the Constitution, it's been a

(01:54:31):
lot of hard work from the people, right if you
think it, all of these things right, or it's been
a catastrophic thing that's happened, like the Civil War, right,
the crazy things that happen.

Speaker 2 (01:54:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
The word it's a mundane and easily under Yeah, changing
direct elections of senators from being appointed by governors to
being directly elected by the people.

Speaker 3 (01:54:53):
Everybody can get behind that.

Speaker 1 (01:54:54):
Everybody understands that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:56):
Everybody gets behind that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
But no, there are mechanisms to make changes to everything here,
and we have to go through those mechanisms, and.

Speaker 1 (01:55:05):
All of those mechanisms essentially do serve as a test
of consensus. Yeah, that's what they're looking for. It's kind
of ingenious, it's smart, it's pretty brilliant. It works pretty
well for preventing wild swings in either direction.

Speaker 3 (01:55:23):
But everybody has to get behind it, right, And that
goes back to politics in general, which we've moved away from,
is that you need people who are persuasive, who can
lay out their plan and be like, hey, this is
what I think we should do, and you need to
be able to persuade the public.

Speaker 4 (01:55:41):
And you need.

Speaker 1 (01:55:44):
A gravitational force to the middle, yeah, to create that
kind of consensus. And there have been examples of that
in history, but we are as a country now pretty
far away from that.

Speaker 2 (01:56:00):
Here is this is the test.

Speaker 1 (01:56:02):
And to TeX's point, a lot of these amendments came
after catastrophes, okay, and we may be running towards our
next set of amendments right after a major catastrophe.

Speaker 3 (01:56:15):
And that's I think that is the and I because
I do think there is an end of violence and
bloodshed that happens, But I do wonder when you have
that in America, are you able you are able to
get amazing things that happen after that that hopefully bring
more of a small democracy to this. But there's all

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at this country. Whenever that happens. There's a lot of
bloodshed and turmoil to get there, and some of.

Speaker 1 (01:56:42):
It is kind of hidden and some of it's very obvious. Right,
we don't get to thirteen and fourteen without the Civil War.
But you know nineteen right, we get that after a
one hundred years struggle of women wanting to be able
to vote. This seems so fundamental and simple. Yeah, And

(01:57:04):
it took one hundred years of people pushing for that,
from the very creation of the country and the women
looking around going, wait a minute, where are we in
this conversation?

Speaker 3 (01:57:16):
Right?

Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
And from from like the early eighteen hundreds to when
the nineteenth passes in the twenties.

Speaker 3 (01:57:24):
Twenties here, that's a long time, and there were.

Speaker 1 (01:57:29):
A lot of people arguing for it, you know, for
all that that, it took a lot and that seems
like a really obvious thing. Half the population can't vote. Well, yeah,
it seems basically right, but they're women, so who care.
You know, it's that it is a measure of consensus.
Speaking of consensus, let's talk about the enemy within. Uh,

(01:57:51):
there is no enemy within. That's a lie. Donald Trump
is making up fake things to try to start a war.
He wants the civil war. He wants to kill everybody. Buddy,
he's a bad person. And we hope that he exiles
himself nicely. I caught myself.

Speaker 3 (01:58:11):
Yeah, so that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:58:14):
Here's how that's playing out. There's a federal judge on
Sunday dealt another blow to the Trump administration's planning to
send federal troops into Portland.

Speaker 2 (01:58:22):
Where the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:25):
Frogs are gay. Yep, this is the judge. Her name
is Karen Immergirt or Immagut. She was appointed by Donald Trump.
And so basically what happened was Trump tried to call
out the Oregon National Guard to go invade Portland, and

(01:58:45):
judge was like, no, there's not you haven't met the threshold.
There's no emergency here. It's doesn't make any sense, no diuice.
So Trump's like, all right, I've already federalized the California
Guard I'm gonna send them. And the judge immigrant was like, hey,
you fucking moron. I just told you you can't do

(01:59:06):
that with the Oregon troops. You can't. Then like just
go get some California troops and try to do the
same damn thing. How about nobody can go anywhere in Oregon?
How about that? And like boom, that's the order, right.
So Trump goes out and he's like, never liked this judge.
I don't know who appointed her. Whoever that was as
an asshole, and then people are like you appointed her.
He's like she's radical leftists, nobody likes her, and it's

(01:59:31):
just like this is the problem, this is the stupid
stalin aspect of it, right, it's his own judge, can't
get it figured out. Now. This is playing out in Chicago,
So Chicago is also not a war zone by any stretch.
There are protests against what ICE is doing. ICE is

(01:59:53):
operating this thing called Operation Midway Blitz, which can we
please get some better writers in this like fascist regime
to come up with the names of things. That's a
terrible name. Midway Blitz sounds like a video game that
didn't quite get off.

Speaker 3 (02:00:12):
The No, here's what it is. And I'm clear that
this is how someone named that. Someone was like, hey,
you know what game I really loved. That was a
lawless game, NFL Blizz. You know the developer who makes
NFL blitz Midway Midway, I guarantee.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
And what is Chicago famous for? The Chicago Midway right Midway?

Speaker 3 (02:00:34):
It's clear as day that I don't I can't report this.
I have no sources on this, but I know someone
in that administration love that game. I got it, guys,
Midway Blitz.

Speaker 1 (02:00:47):
It's stupid solid. It's what it is.

Speaker 3 (02:00:50):
It's stupid solid, all right.

Speaker 1 (02:00:52):
So they are operating in Chicago. They are shooting at protesters.
That's not good. They are ransacking apartment building, they are
sweeping up everybody in these drag nets. They've arrested and
detained and attempted to deport us citizens. It's a really
catastrophic situation. The people are not having it that people

(02:01:14):
are upset about it. They are peacefully protesting. I want
to heavily emphasize peacefully, and for the most part, it's
like really localized. They'll pick like a particular neighborhood or
they'll go to the Ice detention center and go hang
out outside, and they're doing things like marching, carrying signs, singing,
and sort of sitting around, obstructing cars. All pretty standard

(02:01:39):
protest stuff. A thing that this country knows how to
deal with, that law enforcement certainly knows how to deal with,
has dealt with in the past. Chicago in particular, has
a lot of experience with this kind of thing. And
Trump is like, well, we're we're at war. And he
posted that meme of him with like now they're going

(02:01:59):
to find out why it's called the Department of War.
And he posted a meme of like himself being in
Vietnam or something. I don't know what he thinks he's doing.
Their mean game sucks. He also posted a photo of
what he claimed to be I think it was maybe
that was, Yeah, it was. The Republican Party of Oregon

(02:02:22):
posted a photo of quote unquote Portland on fire, and
then people zoomed in and like, hey, those police shields
say policia on them. Are you sure this is in
the United States? And then it turned out it was
two Getty images that they you know, got, and one
was in like Brazil and the other one was in like,

(02:02:43):
you know, somewhere else in South America. So that that's
that's not how that works. I mean, that's really basic shit,
Like you couldn't just edit that a little bit, just
stupid stylin. All right, So he's like, ah, we're we're
gonna send the Illinois Guard into Chicago to go shoot people.

(02:03:03):
And Governor Pritzker was like, the fuck you are, and
so then, uh, that's an incredible graphic. Jesus.

Speaker 12 (02:03:13):
No.

Speaker 1 (02:03:14):
Trump's like, where am I going to get some troops?
And Greg Abbott was like, I got some and Trump's like,
all right, quick, give me your your troops. I'm gonna
send them to Illinois. I'm still and I've spent a
week trying to figure this out. I'm unclear what legal

(02:03:34):
justification he's using to send troops into another state against
the wishes of the receiving states governor.

Speaker 2 (02:03:43):
There's none.

Speaker 3 (02:03:44):
There's only one option that eventually will get here with
and that'll be a whole different thing.

Speaker 1 (02:03:49):
Insurrection.

Speaker 3 (02:03:49):
Yeah, it's the only thing. That's the only thing. There's
no law. That's the only law that's on the books
that allows.

Speaker 1 (02:03:54):
So there's two titles that govern use of the guard.
One's thirty two and one's ted and intend. The federal
government can federalize the troops of a state and use
them and pay for them, and pay their benefits themselves,
and use them for a federal mission. Title thirty two
is when they're on a state mission but being paid

(02:04:16):
for by the federal government. But neither of those things,
in my reading of them, has any mechanism by which
you can forcibly deploy federal troops of one state into
another state over the wishes of that governor. You can
certainly do it govereign states, right, You can certainly do

(02:04:36):
it with the permission of like state. There's a flood
in Tennessee and Kentucky is sending troops and the FEDS
are paying for it to help them shore things up.
Totally legitimate, but sending troops from Texas into Illinois under
federal control would constitute a violation of the sovereignty of
really both of those states. But Texas is willingly giving

(02:04:59):
it up. That would violate the sovereignty of Illinois. And
the Tenth Amendment is pretty clear that all the things
not specifically prescribed to the federal government in the US
Constitution are therefore reserved to the states, which would include
their state boundaries and control of their state militias. I
haven't been shown, and I've done pretty extensive research on

(02:05:25):
it this week. Any piece of US Code Title X, Y,
or Z that says that this is legal. I know
that Trump doesn't give a shit about what's legal or
what's not, but this seems like an easy one to
win in court. We're going to find that out. I
think maybe tomorrow that Illinois and Chicago have sued over this,

(02:05:46):
and based on what we've seen in Oregon, I think
they're likely to be able to win both. The case
in Oregon was upheld by the Ninth Circuit said that
Trump could still federalize the guard but that he couldn't
deploy them while they're still checking this out and stuff.
And there have been several other cases where this has
been attempted and it just doesn't seem like it passes muster.

(02:06:10):
But the courts are in this weird position where they're
basically going to have to make a decision of whether
they are in a place to say what is an
emergency and what is not. And previously we've seen them
be very deferential to the executive and say, look, if
the executive calls it an emergency, we're not in a
position to say whether it is or it isn't. I

(02:06:31):
think this is different. I think we could be crossing
a rubicon if that's the case. But I guess we'll
wait and see. What matters is the reaction. And as
long as the people in Chicago, Portland or otherwise don't
take the bait, keep calm, keep singing, get the dancing frogs, whatever,

(02:06:53):
but don't shoot at them, don't fight, don't throw things
at them, don't overreact. What they're trying to do is
provoke a response which will thus justify their fascist tactics
in the first place. That is the classic fascist playbook,
creative emergency claim that you're the solutions of the emergency

(02:07:16):
and use that as a way to suspend the normal
order of things.

Speaker 3 (02:07:21):
I mean the other piece of this as well is
that like the Insurrection Act being the mechanism that they
need to use. I don't know how that. Actually there's
no much because it's not happening. There's no insurrection.

Speaker 1 (02:07:33):
Yeah, but if it's up to the executive to determine
what is an insurrection, then has no way to handle that.

Speaker 3 (02:07:39):
All right.

Speaker 1 (02:07:40):
Look, we've got just like one more thing part of
the show left to do, really, which is the local news.
So do you think we can.

Speaker 3 (02:07:49):
Power through that?

Speaker 2 (02:07:51):
All right, let's try to power through it. It's going
to make it. Yeah, Well I make it or I'll
just disappear from the screen. The local news.

Speaker 11 (02:07:57):
I have.

Speaker 3 (02:07:57):
I have a lot of thoughts on this local news
because it's fair. Oooh, I'm glad I'm not in politics.

Speaker 1 (02:08:04):
All right, So what's up with this curfew nonsense?

Speaker 3 (02:08:07):
All right? So there was a lot, as they say
the Washington Post reporters, fireworks erupted in the DC Council
on Tuesday of an emergency legislation to extend special juvenile
curfew zones leading to a highly unusual sequence of events
in which lawmakers rejected the bill, only to go on
recess for a closed door meeting, take phone calls at
the mayor, and then return to the public meeting to

(02:08:30):
reconsider it. They ultimately put the final put off the
final decision.

Speaker 1 (02:08:34):
So what this is?

Speaker 3 (02:08:35):
And yeah, in the summer, right, if you've been in Washington,
d C. From time to time, you'll see mobs of children.
It's a lot of it's a lot of kids. I'm
not gonna see a lot of it's a lot of kids.
I've come out of like a Nationals game, and it's
been clearly like could easily be somewhere between thirty to

(02:08:56):
fifty kids at one point, Like, it's a lot of.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
Kids about the thirty to fifty faral hogs on my
front lawn or something like that.

Speaker 3 (02:09:05):
Yeah, something of that nature, right, Uh yeah, And this
legislation comes in from Brooke Pinto, the Democrat from War two,
who I think is trying to now run to unseat
uh Norton. Norton Yeah hopefully will yeah, I mean, but
do you also have I think Rob White is also
trying to do that.

Speaker 1 (02:09:23):
I don't care.

Speaker 3 (02:09:24):
Axios did a very interesting thing on all the political people. Actually,
I was the story I should have dropped into this.
I probably will we back in about like everybody's position.
They were like like McDuffie is like the mayor that
is supposed to be mayor that's been supposed to be mayor,
and like they called Rob White the opportunist.

Speaker 2 (02:09:42):
And it was a very interesting.

Speaker 3 (02:09:43):
Article on it. To digress from that though, but they
they want to extend like a stricter version of a
city wide curfew that would go in effact at eleven
pm instead of midnight, and apply to everyone under age
eighteen and rather than those under seventeen. The bill would
also grant the least Chief power to create special temporary
designated curfew zones where juvenile curfew is set at eight pm. Right, So,

(02:10:08):
as an example, let's say Friday night on U Street,
if you were eighteen or below, they would say that
whole zone is off and then they would go ahead
and be able to boot you out of that. And
they mentioned in this as well too during the spring,
the Navy Yard, the wharf, U Street Quarter again is
these are the places where there was a lot of disruption.

(02:10:31):
And again like around businesses. I think it's another money
right that the money is where this comes down to, right,
And as it was stated in here from Pencils quote,
I don't think this is a panacee to solve all
enforcement challenges with our young people, pencol said during the
council debate. But it is one tool that I think

(02:10:52):
has been effective for three months. But there was a
lot of pushback. So my council member JLG Denise Lewis
George and she will always see on the side, she's
like worried that one federal officers right who are along
with DC Patrol could start engaging the youth.

Speaker 2 (02:11:12):
And I think that is a fear that that's a
fair fear to have.

Speaker 3 (02:11:18):
And as she mentions, I'm afraid of extending this provision
to be used a pretext for to target black and
brown youth have already been targeted in this moment. I
do think I do lean more to that because around
these laws that you end up enforcing, like when does
it get to a weird point where like if it's

(02:11:38):
Friday night and like a kid wants to go out
to a movie, right, like they're allowed to, Like is
there an issue like if five kids want to go
out to a movie and they're in this enforcement zone?
Like did kids to be able to do? Like, yeah,
if you're if your seventeen year old friends in high school, right,
should you in like five or ten other people be
able to go see a movie? Right? I do worry

(02:11:58):
about that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:00):
Cleveland Park? Yeah absolutely, but.

Speaker 3 (02:12:01):
Yeah, right exactly. But then if you're in Cleveland Park,
it's like, hold on, you're gonna be are you gonna
be a profile for a whole different reason?

Speaker 2 (02:12:11):
And why are you in Cleveland Park?

Speaker 1 (02:12:14):
And yeah?

Speaker 3 (02:12:16):
Yeah, and then and then I think this is the
part of government, right, And it'd be interesting because I
do think the population DC will probably agree with this.
But Denie was saying she called for the Council to
hold oversight hearings about how DC police have been coordinating
with federal law enforcement, and Penhall agreed that the public
should weigh in right about the experiences and would consider

(02:12:37):
holding Here is when she said she had the opposite
view from Louis George believe the juvenile curfew will protect you,
not harm them. I mean again, I see where Penhill's
trying to go with this. I feel like there's some
of it. There's a little spin.

Speaker 2 (02:12:51):
Around this, I will I will jump directly.

Speaker 3 (02:12:57):
To obviously someone full disclosure who I support and very
close with, my good friend, Zachary Parker. He was convinced
again that this was effecting for the purpose of dispersing
congregate teens, and to quote him, he was like, in
many respects, I viewed as a proactive tool versus calling
in the police and others to respond or react after

(02:13:18):
there's been a big brawl. And that actually was just
to kind of to tie that together. Tom Lynch, who's
one the spokesman for the police department I was talking
to the Post and said on Tuesday that police encounters
widespread com that police encountered widespread compliants among the youth
in these special zones, and Lynch said the purpose was

(02:13:40):
not to make arrests and none were made, but to
order large groups to disperse. Once we were able to
use the curfew zones. We didn't see these gatherings, right,
So the police are saying, hey, we haven't arrested anybody.
When we do this, we go ahead and like we
tell them and they've been cooperative and they've left. McDuffie
questioned whether it's juvenile curfew zones merely sent mischievous using

(02:14:03):
mischievous young people somewhere else. This apparently not though, right,
exactly apparently not. I mean they do go somewhere, right,
I mean they.

Speaker 1 (02:14:11):
Go home and chat with each other on their phones, right.

Speaker 3 (02:14:14):
Exactly right. And there there are five council members that
went ahead and rejected this, right, so obviously Louis, George Brandon,
dou Robert White, Treyon, and they all voted against this
because the emergency bills require a super majority to advance
this year. And then I guess this is the weird
part that ends up happening.

Speaker 2 (02:14:36):
Right.

Speaker 3 (02:14:37):
Uh, that's when all the phone calls begin. As uh
Henderson spoke on the measure. Uh the letters, they basically
moved on to some other stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:14:48):
They moved out, like marriage equality and a few other things.

Speaker 3 (02:14:52):
Government shut down, marriage college licenses. Knowing the government shut down, Yeah, yeah,
it kind.

Speaker 1 (02:14:58):
Of like forgot about the what they were doing. And
then then they all got back together and then they're like,
all right, let's let's do the curfew thing again. And
then uh Pinto like withdrew it and was like, all right, well,
let's go talk about it some more before we go
any any further. Yeah, what happened in those phone calls?

Speaker 2 (02:15:18):
I wonder, I just wonder.

Speaker 3 (02:15:19):
It's really hard right now, I think, to make laws
in the district or I can only imagine like the
folks in the Wilson built and trying to like enact
laws right now and during the time it's difficult with
just what everything that's happening here. I don't know. I
I I do feel a.

Speaker 2 (02:15:35):
Way like I am.

Speaker 3 (02:15:36):
I O'Brien probably has a lot of comments on this.
I feel a way about how they're going about this
isn't a problem. Clearly there was a problem over the
spring and summer of groups and I and for me,
I think I look at it from a place of
privilege where I look at these motherfucking little kids in

(02:15:57):
they fucking eyes and I'm not like, I'm not afraid
of these kids, right and I look at like it's
not like what, I don't care if there's thirty of them.
I wish someone But I understand where this frightens a
lot of the new residents into the business. And I've
seen it with my own eyes, and I think.

Speaker 1 (02:16:15):
The business aspect of it's real. Right, if you got
a bunch of kids blocking entrances, people can't come in
and buy ice cream or whatever.

Speaker 3 (02:16:21):
Yeah, it doesn't feel it doesn't it feels right in
to me. I'm like, these are children, and I'm not
worried about the fucking children when of the children start
making the rules. But I do want to now that
the counsel is asking that as well too, It's like,
what is there a point like it should should there
not be the kids on the street at this time?

(02:16:42):
I think this comes down to parents.

Speaker 1 (02:16:45):
That's a parenting decision, not a not a legislative decision.

Speaker 3 (02:16:48):
And that's where it's like, it's really hard for me
to look beyond the parents of this and the larger
like socioeconomic.

Speaker 1 (02:16:57):
Things that rhymes something better too.

Speaker 3 (02:17:01):
I think we're not creative enough.

Speaker 1 (02:17:03):
We're not what happened to like rec centers or you know,
youth centers or you know nighttime basketball or any of
these things.

Speaker 3 (02:17:14):
Like I think like throw on the music the kids like,
and like have like chaperones and like a dance or
something let the kids like. I think music is one
of these things you know that you can.

Speaker 1 (02:17:24):
Drive, go go put on shows.

Speaker 3 (02:17:27):
Yeah, like there are options, and I do that there are.

Speaker 1 (02:17:30):
Go go bands who are looking for gigs, right, and
they solve this problem.

Speaker 3 (02:17:34):
And we talk about I mean, we've talked about the
infrastructure piece of there should be infrastructure in DC for
the youth. Maybe it is on a Friday night where
they're able to go and like yeah and yeah, give
them something to do and they will go there. And
you know what, if you make it something that they
enjoy and that's creative and engaging for them, they will

(02:17:56):
do that because.

Speaker 1 (02:17:57):
They are chances they can get there on the metro.

Speaker 3 (02:18:00):
Right, and if it's free, and if it's free, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:18:03):
They're gonna go. And I don't put on a show
at four Tupac Park and let them all go over
there and hang out and listen to music and maybe
like donate some free chips and soda or whatever, yeah,
and let them go chill.

Speaker 3 (02:18:20):
And I would be happy for my tax dollars to
go towards that.

Speaker 2 (02:18:24):
Absolutely, I'd be happy for that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:26):
Matter of fact, all those businesses that would be making
more money because the kids would be out of the
way so that all the adults can go spend the money.
That's where their tax money could go. Virtuous cycle.

Speaker 2 (02:18:35):
Yeah, it's it's it's just it shouldn't be. But I do, like,
I do know that these children scare.

Speaker 3 (02:18:42):
People, and we go back to fear, and when people
are moving on fear, that's where that's where you have
these issues. And I think there's a I think he's scary,
I think from what and just talking to people. And
granted when I was doing this was like in the
pain pandemic, so I think it was a different time
and there were different issues at that time. I think

(02:19:03):
if you look at violence in the city at that point,
no matter how I want to like square this, that
it's not as bad as it was if there was
still an upticking. And I don't think we're not. We're
no longer in those in that pandemic pandemic phase, but
it's clear I saw a contingent between new residents and
older black residents that were like there was almost alliance

(02:19:27):
of like, oh, we need to be deeper and tougher
on the kids in this tough on crime thing, and
I do think I do think you will see the
mayor put out a bill though eventually that is more
of these tough on crime aspects, which I really hope
doesn't happen. But I also know the police. I know
the mayor has been looking to increase the police support

(02:19:48):
or the police force for a while now, and I
think she might use her new relationship with the federal
government to do this to get funding for that. And
I can see a big crime build the big crime
I think, which I don't think is smart, but I
think it's gonna be another big crime bill in DC
that does the thing that we've done multiple times in

(02:20:09):
the cities where we don't look at programs and things
of that nature, and we'll just lock these kids up
and they'll build a bigger prison in a bigger cage
to put them in that.

Speaker 1 (02:20:17):
I don't know, getting more cops on the street. If
if the idea here is to spread the load, make
sure that the cops who are out there are less
jumpy and not so stressed and all of that stuff,
I think that's fine, But yeah, it's got to be
coupled with crime prevention programs and things that derail or
you know, violence, interruption and all that kind of stuff,
but also, you know, giving the kids something to do.

(02:20:40):
I don't know, you know, my guess is that that
set of phone calls was basically Bowser saying, hey, this
is jeopardizing home rule. Whatever it is that you'all are
about to do, right, don't do anything because right now
they're not looking at us, and the second we do
something big, they're gonna look at us. Right, And Bowser

(02:21:01):
just wants the federal government to forget that DC is
operating at all, and and just keep the focus. It's
like the eye of sauron, right, like, let it focus.
If it looks at you, you're in trouble. So don't
do anything to draw its attention.

Speaker 2 (02:21:17):
Right, don't put the ring on.

Speaker 1 (02:21:18):
Yeah, exactly, all right, while we discussed Virginia, you want
to go handle what you got to handle.

Speaker 3 (02:21:24):
No, no, no, I can make it.

Speaker 1 (02:21:25):
I'll make it, all right. Jay Jones problem send a
bunch of text messages to Republicans that he when he
was back in the state legislature and talking about the
Speaker of the House at that time, how he would
love to shoot him, which isn't good. He's he had

(02:21:50):
an incredible quote about Hitler, pol Pott and UH Speaker
Gilbert in which he said if he had two bullets
and the three of them were together, Gilbert would get
both bullets each time. And yeah, that's not good. Jones

(02:22:10):
sent texts in twenty twenty two, not long after leaving
the state legislature, and messages first reported last week by
the National Review. He imagined killing Gop, Speaker of the
Virginia House of Delegates, and discussed urinating on the future
graves of other Republicans.

Speaker 3 (02:22:29):
Look yep, he.

Speaker 1 (02:22:30):
Laid out hypothetical in which he had two bullets to
fire at then State House Speaker Todd Gilbert Hitler and
Cambodian dictator Paul Pott. Gilbert Hitler and Paul Pott, Jones wrote,
Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. It's not good, right, No,

(02:22:50):
this is uh, this is the October surprise right then,
hoping Jones was already kind of a lowsy candidate. He
hadn't raised a lot of money.

Speaker 3 (02:23:00):
I've been beat because I'm seeing the ads now because
I watch football again, and he even beating his ass
over the head with these fucking ads, Joe.

Speaker 1 (02:23:06):
They've been going after him for not having any experience
as a prosecutor, and mire as having lots of experience.

Speaker 3 (02:23:13):
Is he the one too? They say that. They keep
saying that he was ripping the police officers out of
the schools, Is he another one or yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:23:20):
Yeah. They went after him for wanting to reduce the
number of school resource officers, which again, it's like a
nuanced part of policy and something that you know, we've
all talked about it. Maybe we don't need cops with
guns and schools and that causes problems, But of course
that doesn't fit in a bumper sticker or an ad our.
Listeners probably buy and large understand that the attorney general

(02:23:44):
isn't really a prosecutor, but I don't know that the
majority of voters understand that. And so this whole idea
of well, he's never prosecutor a case in his life,
it's not super relevant to being attorney general, but it
is a compelling argument, and it makes him a bad candidate.
So it's just it. I didn't vote for him in

(02:24:04):
the primary. I think he was I thought he was
kind of a weak candidate then. But that's that's the problem,
and the problem is that this could drag down Spamberger
and Hashmi with him.

Speaker 2 (02:24:16):
No way, no way in hell.

Speaker 1 (02:24:20):
Virginia is an interesting place, right because our three state
wide elections are individual and they're not on a ticket,
So it is possible, and in fact probably in this case,
likely we're gonna end up with a democratic governor and
a Democratic lieutenant governor and a Republican AG. We've had
the flip of that, we had Mark Herring maintain his

(02:24:43):
job as a g for several cycles, and you know,
those things can happen. Sometimes that's good, sometimes it's bad.
The October surprise the other direction. Now, all this stuff
coming out about win some earl series and her.

Speaker 3 (02:24:57):
Fine, that's my favorite. That's I am speaking.

Speaker 1 (02:25:04):
That's her making fun of Kamala right. It's so insane,
but it does a good job of painting her as
a crazy, wild, angry black woman with a big gun,
which is a good image if you want to show that.
It signals something to some people. But you know, so
her finances are not in order, and it turns out

(02:25:27):
that she's been a little cagey about reporting things, especially
trips and and stuff, while she's been working as lieutenant governor.
And then the other flip side is now we've got
the islamophobic attacks on Gazala Hashmi coming from the right,
saying that she's a terrorist and you know, hamas or whatever,

(02:25:48):
which of course she's not. And has nothing to do
with that and is you know, pretty anti terrorist I
think in her career. So it's all just like this
mission ash it crazy. Spamburger's got the money, Sears doesn't.
I don't know that that still is gonna play out.
The lead is narrowing some. It would be a really

(02:26:09):
catastrophic problem if win some earl series of Virginia.

Speaker 2 (02:26:15):
No one looks no one.

Speaker 1 (02:26:18):
That's if the first black woman governor of a state
in this country is her. Yeah, it's cause back substantially.

Speaker 2 (02:26:27):
No way in hell, No way in hell.

Speaker 1 (02:26:30):
I hope you're right. I'm just I'm worried. I said
no way in hell about Hillary too. So okay, lastly,
here we've got okay, deep fakes and robot girlfriends. One
in five high schoolers are getting down with their with

(02:26:52):
their chat GPT girlfriends.

Speaker 3 (02:26:54):
I love this too, because this is a place that's
near and dear to my heart. My former employer here
CD and my good friend Elizabeth Laird reported this here.

Speaker 1 (02:27:02):
Actually, yeah, alltogether, bad man, it's bad.

Speaker 3 (02:27:08):
Yeah, No, I mean it's this research that came out,
Yeah from CDT is there one of five high school
say somebody knows had a romantic relation with artificial intelligence.
Like the fact is, like I thought this would have
been better for the elderly. I didn't think the kids
were going to do this. But then when I'm finding
out about.

Speaker 1 (02:27:25):
Children, rule thirty four, dude, rule thirty four. If there's
a way to make it into porn, the internet will
do it.

Speaker 3 (02:27:32):
We will do it. It's just between this and kids
exiting college not being able to read a book. I
don't know which one upsets anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:27:41):
Books are for nerds. Uh yeah, but so it's bad.
Eight hundred uh six through twelfth graders put in the study,
and the thousand ninth through twelfth graders and the thousand parents.
The vast majority eighty six percent of students, eighty five
percent of educators, and seventy five percent of parents say
that they use a during the last school year. There's

(02:28:02):
all this question about whether teachers are using it degrade things,
you know, like yes or no. Scantron's sure, that's the
same thing. But this all has to slow way the
fuck down, Like where the fuck down people are?

Speaker 2 (02:28:22):
This is?

Speaker 1 (02:28:22):
This is that horse is out of the barn. I
don't know how long it's gonna take for people to
like swipe back left on on this. But this is
this is we have gone really too far, too fast.
People have got robot girlfriends, they're getting catfish and deep
faked online. People are voluntarily putting their faces in sora

(02:28:43):
so other people can make deep fake videos of them
doing ship that they didn't do. That's I saw somebody
made one of Stephen Hawking doing that.

Speaker 3 (02:28:52):
Yeah, that's a good water, that's good. Are very funny,
but they're not funny. It's funny. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (02:29:03):
It's a problem.

Speaker 2 (02:29:05):
No, it is a problem.

Speaker 3 (02:29:09):
Yeah, it's here's a few things, and there's a lot.
The other problem is around the economy and what's fueling
the economy right now, and it's five fucking companies and
they're all freaking involved in ais A.

Speaker 1 (02:29:23):
Circulative and it's this huge bubble and it's gonna burst
and it's not good for the resources.

Speaker 3 (02:29:31):
No oh no, no, no, we are destroying the planet
extra fast. If AI is going to fix the planet
as it destroys it, I don't really again know how
you square.

Speaker 1 (02:29:40):
It's going to fix the planet by getting rid of
the problem, which is us.

Speaker 3 (02:29:45):
Look, the robots are gonna be to survive the water,
but the animals there will be a few humans that survive,
a few those of us.

Speaker 1 (02:29:52):
That can swim.

Speaker 3 (02:29:53):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (02:29:54):
All right, and speaking of places with a lot of lakes,
let's go to Michigan to end the show. So republican
state lawmaker in Michigan who has condemned lgbt Q rights.
He called oral sex a crime against God.

Speaker 3 (02:30:07):
Hey, get the fuck out of here.

Speaker 2 (02:30:09):
Out of here, man.

Speaker 3 (02:30:10):
Look, look, yeah, I'm not here to young.

Speaker 2 (02:30:12):
Other people's young, all right, get out of here.

Speaker 3 (02:30:15):
All right, go to hell.

Speaker 1 (02:30:17):
Obviously looking at him, he just doesn't have any that's
who is.

Speaker 3 (02:30:21):
Yeah, I saw this. I thought this was a Jamaican.

Speaker 1 (02:30:25):
Yeah, he introduced legislation to banned pornography in the state.
He's been linked, you know, he's done all this stuff.
Well it turns out, uh, yeah, he loves adult dating
websites and group sex and all kinds of other stuff.
And he's got all his report his uh, his user

(02:30:46):
names all over these places. I think Brian showed the
one called fling not really uh A expert on that
driver's account, which advert which advertised that he was interested
in fetish and group sex encounters, appears to have been
inactive since twenty ten, when he was in his late teens,

(02:31:07):
you know, when most people get heavily into porn. I
guess he denies ownership of the accounts and claims that
the records were forged. I've never heard of the website
or access it, but the same email address and password
appear in multiple other breaches linked to Shreiver's verified personal accounts,
including MySpace and check a homework help platform. Whatever. Yeah,

(02:31:35):
so this guy, he's a loser. He wants to make
sure other people are also losers. He did not vote
against a ban on child marriage, supports child marriage. Yeah.
He also generated controversy for voting against a ban on
child marriage and the closure of a loophole that allowed
husbands in Michigan to drug and or sexually assault their

(02:31:57):
wives in some circumstances, which I guess is a thing
that husbands in Michigan are doing. And I'm saying that
wearing a hat. It's not my people. He's also a
big fan of the great replacement theory. So he's due
to get a job on news Max probably this week.

Speaker 3 (02:32:15):
Very soon. Yeah, what a gross loser. I'm breaking news.
Uh oh no, it's not good news. Sister Jean passed
away at age one oh six. Weal Chicago Icon.

Speaker 1 (02:32:32):
You know that.

Speaker 3 (02:32:34):
Made them get to the sweets scene, right, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (02:32:37):
Yeah, that was a big That was Hugela.

Speaker 3 (02:32:39):
That feels so long ago.

Speaker 2 (02:32:40):
How long ago was that? That might have been it's
years ago at this point.

Speaker 3 (02:32:45):
I oh, it feels like it was.

Speaker 1 (02:32:49):
It's been a while. I think it was in Trump
one eighteen. Yeah. Yeah, that's bad, but I'm I mean
it was coming. She's one hundred and six.

Speaker 3 (02:33:04):
That's a long life.

Speaker 1 (02:33:05):
That's a long life of being good to people. Hey,
you want to know the secret to live in a
long life? Being none? Yeah, you know, love your neighbor
and shit.

Speaker 2 (02:33:15):
I don't know. It seems like hate is also driving other.

Speaker 3 (02:33:17):
It's like one to the other. Like you're eating like
super good and you live a long or you're super
hateful you live forever.

Speaker 13 (02:33:22):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:33:22):
It seems like both.

Speaker 1 (02:33:24):
Judging by the state of my knees and how much
I hate Ohio and Dallas, I'm gonna go with good
should probably win out. But you know, teaches all teach
all right, that's the end of the show. We're right
on time. Thanks you for radio partners. Whoever it is,
it's listening to us all over the world. Thank you
for the big bumping numbers. You really appreciate it. Thanks

(02:33:46):
to n OTN, which they did check out this week,
is still operating but does not carry our show anymore.

Speaker 18 (02:33:51):
Thanks anyway, I love you. Thanks you super Apple, all
the big friend on this show here. Thanks you for
you know what dot com has always for a family
here ATTY Radio for making us sound as as a
BONDI talking to her children.

Speaker 1 (02:34:12):
Uh, based on the way she yelled at the senators, right,
I don't need probably who knows? All right?

Speaker 12 (02:34:22):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:34:22):
Where can everybody get you? On the socials there Tez.

Speaker 3 (02:34:25):
The Heritage Guide to the Constitution and on Blue Sky
all right.

Speaker 1 (02:34:36):
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And uh, of course you can find us every Thursday night,
but not next Thursday night because I'm gonna be prepping
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(02:34:59):
If you want to see queer curling, because that's a
really inside baseball niche there. You want to go hang
out with queer curlers, there's only one place in the
country to do it. It's at the Potomacurling Club next weekend,
the sixteenth and seventeenth or whatever. So come hang out.
It's gonna be fun. I promise that I don't know

(02:35:21):
how good the quality of the curling is, but I
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So you can come check us out, come meet me,
and I'll sign an autograph or whatever I usually do
when when the fans, you know, I mean, I try
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(02:35:42):
Beyond and of course on RIP Radio Network now that
we're back on the air simulcasting and yeah, so I'm Chip.
That's test. Brian's in the background hating the children. You've
been listening to Tip Tet on Beltway Radio and Beyond.

Speaker 3 (02:35:55):
Sweet No the chatter history.

Speaker 19 (02:35:59):
In the first Trump promises political violence, but nohearse that
DG and Shapiro trying to rap, but don't rehearse.

Speaker 3 (02:36:05):
These right wing nuts can't get any better, just worse.

Speaker 1 (02:36:08):
Test and shit out here.

Speaker 19 (02:36:09):
Trying to save the republic like Tess on this golf course.
It ain't brib it just public. When we have a
drink in the bars now bears the public. It's hard
to get something to round with the subject. If we
get famous, we can give a shout out to Brian
to get us out on Thomas. What he'd be trying
to show us like a custom feathered envy in that
knows words. How can we stay late when our guest
is zilly bird?

Speaker 3 (02:36:30):
In conclusion, the messages to go.

Speaker 19 (02:36:31):
Ule and serve folks, whether that's the ark music or
if you just tell jokes, seek to medicate your ears.

Speaker 1 (02:36:36):
Hope you eradicate your fears. Thanks he's sticking with us
through all these years.

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