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Speaker 1 (00:35):
It is nine thirty on a Thursday night and you
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You just told him buddy, Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
Look if you are watching us live on Beltweit Radio
and Beyond, I don't think we are we on ripped
right now as well as we think we are yes
us on rip Radio TV.

Speaker 3 (01:03):
Yeah, we have a Christmas theme, uh festive.

Speaker 1 (01:07):
This is shout Brian. He's always looking at Brian. It's
always on it like. This is not This made me smile.
I saw this. I was like, oh, look at that
candy canes and little pine piles and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
President in the present like you can. And this is
not overbearing. This is like perfect.

Speaker 1 (01:26):
Actually it's non it's non denominational, I mean very definitely Christmas,
but it's not like, uh Christmas. Yeah, I like this.
It's part of the war on Christmas.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
The war on Christmas. Tell us listeners more so, to.

Speaker 2 (01:42):
Be very clear, you know you know you're not a
happy Holidays guy, right, you don't know this is uh you.

Speaker 1 (01:47):
Know, Christmas is a sacred holiday for for my people,
or yes, until it was ruin. So Christmas is a
time when when many Jews celebrate by going to the
movies and eating Chinese food in peace without all you
stupid go around. And then then they started releasing movies

(02:09):
specifically on Christmas so that all the go would come
to the movie theater and ruined our holiday, which was
our holiday and it was a sacred holiday. And that
is the true war on Christmas, taking it away from
the Jews. I feel like this is like the It's
not like the NBA talking to the NFL. Okay, there's that,

(02:33):
but that's also more recent. I'm not mad at basketball
on Christmas.

Speaker 2 (02:38):
I love yeah, yeah, because all isching on this football
needs to not be on Christmas.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
I know it is going to be on Christmas, but
it should not be on Christmas.

Speaker 3 (02:48):
That's the best is a Christmas game.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
He's ridiculous. That's insane. Okay, I don't want to go.
If you're somebody like me who is also like about
Christmas TV and movies and all of that stuff and
Christmas music, I don't want to have a Hallmark guard. No.
I hate all that stuff. You know, not the gross
and so like if I'm trapped someplace where there's TV

(03:14):
and nothing else to do, Thank God for the NBA
on Christmas.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, it's it's it's.

Speaker 1 (03:19):
Like my say, I've just got to make it till noon, right,
and then just got to make it till noon. You
got to get to noon and then they'll be basketball
and I'll be all right, you know, and then the
next day there's Boxing Day soccer. Yes, yeah, you know,
Thank goodness for sports. Sports is great. Guess what we're
gonna talk about tonight a little bit later. Sports. Yeah,

(03:40):
I'm not in the good way, heard one of us. Okay,
you try not to have too much fun at this. Look,
I'm just gonna listen. I just want to hear.

Speaker 3 (03:50):
I want to hear your unbiased opinion.

Speaker 1 (03:52):
I promise to make absolutely no sense in discussing this man. Okay,
that's that I can. Okay, people with bullshit? Yes, all right,
So welcome to a special edition of chip Chat. Not
just because it's Christmas themed and all of that stuff
or whatever, because this week we have doctor Shannon. She's

(04:12):
back with us, yes, which is remarkable. She's She's been
here now several times. Which it says something about her.
So she's gonna talk to us, of course about Meno
Start with Meno, Dash start dot com the dash for
hot flash right there. And there's new rules about hormone drugs,

(04:32):
so she's gonna explain all that stuff, which is gonna
be cool. Also, this week, we're gonna play our favorite game,
the Clip game, the chip Clip game, in which you
get to watch us, watch us and laugh about it.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
It is the most DJing to ourselves that we do here.
It's the highest size level of it's like uhception inside baseball.

Speaker 1 (04:59):
That's how like, yes, it's it's it's great. Uh. And
then we're gonna be on for three weeks, you know,
because that's how we do things around. Yes, yes, my favorite. Yes,
that's his favorite part of it.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
Finally, vacation is your break is here, Your break is
Here's this part. It's Friday morning. It's never this. I
love this part. It's Friday morning. That has been bad
for years for.

Speaker 1 (05:29):
Me at this point. Now yeah, yeah, that's the only part.
But it's worth it, right, It's worth it. We convince
ourselves every week, and I take enough time off during
the year. Anyways, here right, it's not like you did
anything to prepare for this show.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Not really, Actually, no you did. I I copied and
paste the link and got on.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Oh that was your link?

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Good Okay, I didn't that's what I did. I didn't
say it was my link. I just said that's what
I perhaps I prepare for this show.

Speaker 1 (05:59):
Good job, all right, And then we'll have a little
rundown and we don't have any like the real headline headlines.
We're just gonna do like rundown stuff because we do that.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
But mostly I'm sure everything will explode over the Christmas
break and ah.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
Speaking of witch breaking news. Yes, oh okay, so speaking
of the Christmas break, you know, between Christmas and New
Year's that is a really good time to bury stuff
in the news. Right Nobody is watching the news, nobody's
paying attention. They're all in some version of a drunk
food coma, or like avoiding their relatives or looking sad

(06:42):
at their credit card bills. But that's in January. Oh okay, Look,
I'm suish. I don't know how this works, but here
is what we do know. And I want everybody, especially
various congressional correspondents who may or may not be listening,
to the show to pay attention to this thing that
I'm about to tell you. Our sources, unnamed sources, have

(07:06):
told this program that the Epstein Estate has made a
massive document dump to the House Committee on Oversight and
Government Reform that supposedly includes pictures of quote an unknown nature. Now,
we don't know when anybody else is going to hear
about this, but pay attention very specifically to that time

(07:26):
period between Christmas and New Year's when it's a good
time to bury stuff that you don't want people to
hear about, and that might be when some of these
things are released. So look at you journalists. Yeah, we're
doing a little journalism here. Occasionally we do that. So

(07:48):
if you happen to be an intrepid reporter who is
covering Congress House oversighte go, maybe talk to them tomorrow
or maybe way to day. You never know. It's a
lot of files they gotta sift through. So just pay attention. Okay,

(08:11):
there we go, breaking news. There's our breaking news. Okay,
So yeah, you got a word, don't have a word
like that air for radio.

Speaker 2 (08:24):
I'm just's not dead air. You can you can fill
a buster this as well. What is the word? Yeah,
I have a word.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Yes, I have a word. Okay, I've got a word. So, uh,
sit back, grab some street balls. It's clip time.

Speaker 4 (08:45):
You're listening to the best, the only show, chip Chat
on Beltway Radio and beyond Sweets. All right, welcome back

(09:34):
to jip Chat here on Beltwegh Radio and beyond.

Speaker 5 (09:37):
I'm your rose chip Hat with me guz Tezaba.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
Alright. So here's the thing. Despite the fact that we
are in fact both dudes, we do care a lot
about women's health. And no it's not just because we
have wives and daughters. It's because, contrary to what Congress
recently passed, women are people and do make up half
of the planet in our question better unders and the
larger half of the population. They outnumber us. By the way, Uh,

(10:04):
we have our favorite lady, doctor Shannon Cotine, Doctor Shannon
Cotin of menow dash start dot com back with us.
The dash is for hot flash.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
I realized this was my third time until just now.

Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah, it is your third.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
I don't know what that means.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
Two more times and you get one of those five
timer jackets.

Speaker 6 (10:32):
As what are we Goya's.

Speaker 1 (10:36):
Is.

Speaker 7 (10:37):
I would like to thank all the doctor gold Blooms
covering the hospital during Christmas for us, So thank you
so much.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
Yes, that's another thing that we're notorious.

Speaker 8 (10:50):
Good points and doctor what's another Jewish name any.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Of y'all Einberg you know, and some of.

Speaker 6 (10:59):
The doctor Patel's.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, right, when I when I was in a truck
doing air conditioning work, I would always volunteer to cover Christmas.

Speaker 6 (11:10):
That is nice.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Well, I'll do whenever you need me. We don't. We
don't actually follow any of those, not one of the
big ones.

Speaker 7 (11:25):
I'm just saying I do have a Christmas tree to
start controversy, but.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Well, my wife calls it a Christmas tree. It's a
Honka Bushnica bush is hilarious. Yeah, yeah, it's got a
Jewish star on the top of it. So yeah, it's
a bush. Yeah. I used to cover Christmas because, like,
I wasn't a day that I cared about, and uh,
you know, I could get paid double times.

Speaker 2 (11:50):
That was that was the other piece I was about.
Ass I was like, well, hey, you got paid for that.
I know for sure. Sometimes it's nice to live in
a Christian nation, all right.

Speaker 1 (12:05):
At this point, but you know whatever, well we're about
to find out about some of that So here's the
first thing. Yes, this is the.

Speaker 6 (12:15):
Last episode before the holidays.

Speaker 5 (12:18):
Yes, yes, yeah, that's that's what we care about.

Speaker 6 (12:23):
I lived this life but today okay, Well.

Speaker 1 (12:28):
That actually gets us to the thing that the first
thing that I wanted to bring up, and this is
this is where you know, this show we cover the economy,
we cover politics, we cover news, you know, but we're
we're an intersectional show, right, So here we're going to do.
This question is really a thing where I have an
observation and I want to I want to run that

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by you. So here's the thing I noticed. There's this
recent drug campaign to ad for a menopause drug that's
supposed to deal with hot flashes that uses that that
lick that was originally an Edda James lick that goes, ooh,
I got a good feeling, right, and you hear that,

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and it was in Pretty Lights, I think was the
first band that really like originated that little snippet. But
then it gets into the Avichy song and it's it's
a common lick, right, everybody knows that one, and it
got sampled into a bunch of stuff in the early
two thousands, nineties and early two thousands back when young

(13:32):
cool folks like us were even cooler and younger. So
is the song that they're choosing for this ad signaling
that people in their forties are entering menopause? And if so, no, yes.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Very insightful and good question as always, and I would
say yes, the millennials, if you will. And as a
jen X, I can appreciate millennials. They're really pushing a
lot of this because millennials are not okay with just

(14:08):
accepting women suffering. They're like, no, we're not going to
accept that. You know, we're the millennials. We're going to
ask questions and kind of find solutions. So I really
respect millennials for that, So I would say.

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Yes, okay, good.

Speaker 6 (14:28):
My coolness ended in the late nineties, yeah, gen.

Speaker 1 (14:33):
X, Yeah, I think yeah, I'm only like ten years
behind that. So yeah, that's that sounds about right. I
don't know, Tess is still cool for now, my pink
un I'm repping MIDI health. Yeah, no, nice, Yes, that
is what I look.

Speaker 6 (14:50):
I'm trying to that hat hiding all your forehead wrinkles.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
So let's go exactly there, there we are, exactly was
my lack of hair you hit that one right on
the head.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Oh, okay, there it is. It's okay, okay. So we
do have you here for a reason because we want
to talk to you about this hormone replacement stuff that's
going on and what the FDA used to say about
these treatments and what they're saying now. So can you
explain to us what was the situation with these treatments

(15:25):
and therapies and what is now the situation with these
treatments and therapies.

Speaker 7 (15:30):
Sure, so, back in the nineties, we noticed that women
were getting heart attacks and strokes about ten years later
than men, so predominantly in their sixties, men in their fifties,
and we're like, what is the difference there? And the

(15:50):
difference is menopause. So we thought, if we give everybody
estrogen and progesterone forever, women will never have heart attacks
and strokes.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
Good theory, but yeah.

Speaker 6 (16:02):
The observational data and so.

Speaker 7 (16:06):
You know, also there was a big pharma push for
these meds, and we're going to cure menopause, and you know,
everybody's wife and mom was going to be happy and
not grouchy and feel good forever right on these meds.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
And this problem at all and everything.

Speaker 7 (16:25):
Fine exactly obviously, So they did a randomized control trial.
It was one of the first kind of women's health
trials actually, because traditionally women are excluded from medication trials
because we're too complicated with all our cycles and things
like that. So we'll just say women are small men,

(16:48):
give them smaller doses and it'll probably be fine. But
then you know, the NIH was like, maybe we should
actually study women, you know, and as different kind of
body than men. And so the wti WILL study, you know,

(17:09):
was looking at we were going to prove how estrogen
and progesterone are really good for women. But unfortunately, the
study design was bad. It ended up looking at women
who were older late sixties, early seventies, even not just
right at menopause. They were excluding people with hot flashes,

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who would benefit the most from people from these medications.

Speaker 6 (17:40):
You know, the study.

Speaker 7 (17:41):
Design just wasn't really what real life was. Plus they
were kind of old fashioned medicines compared to what we
have now, and so it actually showed an increased risk
of heart attack and stroke gat to the point where
the study was stopped early because it was unethical to continue.
The mainstream media got this in two thousand and two

(18:04):
was like, you were right, big pharma is trying to
kill us all stop taking all your medicine.

Speaker 6 (18:10):
Oh no, E one stopped.

Speaker 7 (18:12):
You know, there was a big Also, breast cancer risk
was increased from one in one thousand to two in
one thousand. The media reported that as like a fifty
percent increase, which really wasn't.

Speaker 6 (18:28):
What the data shows.

Speaker 7 (18:31):
So people were afraid to take hormones. People were afraid
to prescribe hormones. In two thousand and three, the FDA
put a black box warning on all estrogen, saying that
it increase your risk of heart attack, stroke, and breast cancer.
And so that's what the black box was, this warning
that actually these medicines increase your risk of all of

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these things.

Speaker 1 (18:54):
So the FDA misunderstood the bad study was done.

Speaker 7 (19:01):
I don't know what they're in understanding was of the study,
but they kind of went along with what the mainstream
thinking was at that time.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Okay, I don't know. Nobody said what.

Speaker 6 (19:13):
The FDA was doing at that time.

Speaker 1 (19:15):
And nobody said, hey, this study looks like it was
designed very poorly and we maybe shouldn't right, So that's
a great question.

Speaker 7 (19:24):
I was I graduated from med school in two thousand
and four, so I was a men's student at the time.
I remember this happening, you know, it definitely changed kind
of how we thought about women's health. And then obviously
I went into an OBGI in residency in two thousand
and four, so it was a big shift, like you

(19:45):
could you know, there was funding from these companies, all
of this stuff and then all and then it just
dried up.

Speaker 9 (19:52):
You know.

Speaker 7 (19:53):
It was a big, like a seismic shift where people
practicing at that time could remember where they were or
with that.

Speaker 6 (20:02):
Wow, you know media statement was made. So I don't
know what the motivation was of the FDA at that time.

Speaker 7 (20:10):
I was, you know, in med school, so I wasn't
like super paying attention to kind of the politics of it.
But I do remember the feeling of like, uh, oh,
we got this wrong.

Speaker 1 (20:23):
You know, yeah, it seems pretty obvious looking back on
it that, okay, you have a poorly designed study. Also,
going from one in one thousand to two in one
thousand is not a fifty percent increase that I don't
know who doesn't know how to math, but that is.

Speaker 6 (20:38):
That is I mean, I'm just a vagina doctor. So
I'm like, well that sounds good.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
That's not how math works, No math works at all.

Speaker 7 (20:48):
But in that time, you know, so I I finished
residency in two thousand.

Speaker 6 (20:53):
I can only talk about myself, right, Yeah, sure, So I.

Speaker 7 (20:55):
Finished residency in two thousand and eight, went into private practice.
I was definitely not practicing that way, and I think
a lot of gynecologists were saying, it doesn't make sense.
The study design wasn't great. You know, you should you're
fifty or whatever. You know, depending on who the patient was,
your risk is actually lower. You don't have any increased risk,

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your family history, whatever. And so I still prescribed, and
to this day haven't changed my prescribing habits based on
what the FDA has said. But I did have patients
who I would give them medicine, talk to them about
risk benefit, what that meant, what you know, how the
study design didn't apply to them. They would get home,

(21:40):
read the package insert saying how this medicine's going to
kill you and decide, you know, why is doctor Catherine
trying to kill me?

Speaker 6 (21:48):
And then not take it. And I wouldn't see them
again for a year.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
And not know.

Speaker 7 (21:52):
So that's where it harmed patients, not in what physicians
and prescribers were doing, but how the information was given
to the patient, and then they you know, there's a
lot of fear based messaging.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
Well that's it. That's kind of a big problem. One
of the things that I think often when you're talking
about whether it's vaccines or any other medication, is that
people hear the side effects or the negative the adverse effects,
and they're weighing that against nothing happening. And that's not
the thing to weigh it against, right, you have to

(22:27):
weigh it against the risk of not doing the treatment,
which could be substantially worse. So, like you know, with
these vaccines, they're like, oh, well it could cause the
myocardio whatever, blah blah blah, and it's like, well, write
that might be bad and pretty rare, but getting COVID
and dying is much much worse, right, And so you

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have to really understand what the two things that you're
weighing are. And that's never presented that way. It's always
presented against the baseline of nothing happening. That's not how
it works at all.

Speaker 7 (23:00):
And there's a lot of distrust and we just don't
know it was Yeah, we don't have time to combat
that in a fifteen minute office visit. You know, it
goes with the bias of oh, I knew it, they
are trying to harm me.

Speaker 6 (23:19):
You know, it kind of confirms that bias for the patient.

Speaker 1 (23:22):
When did that become a thing that people started to
suspect the medical community of being intentionally harmful?

Speaker 6 (23:33):
Ah, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
It's weird web Yeah, right.

Speaker 7 (23:38):
The vaccine stuff started that, which came out in two
thousand and six, that one paper in the landset that
was then retracted Andrew, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:48):
Don't worry. The guy and his son who wrote that
paper that was retracted are now like on the panel
that's deciding what's going on with vaccines. So that's great.

Speaker 7 (23:58):
I think that started it. The lidamide, you know, it
is a medication that we gave for pre term labor
and hyperemesis, which is when you vomit a lot during pregnancy,
recurrent pregnancy loss, and then it ended up causing birth effects.

Speaker 6 (24:12):
You know, and people.

Speaker 7 (24:15):
Began to mistrust obviously, uh, when that data came out.

Speaker 6 (24:22):
You know, obviously.

Speaker 7 (24:23):
People of color, they have a much different experience in
the medical system. And then you know how studies were done,
you know, using slaves and enslaved people and different things,
you know, created tstige, created a lot of distrust in
those communities. So I think it's been happening for generations.

(24:47):
And then COVID just made all of that, you know,
and then the Internet like so much more. Doctors aren't
good at communicating because they don't have time. So I
think it's been kind of a build up this whole
century for many, many reasons, you know, not just this study.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
But well even as recently as like you say, one
hundred years ago or so, like if you look at
the kinds of treatments that were standard operation back then,
they're ridiculous and ghastly and clearly not the right, you know.

Speaker 7 (25:29):
Right, And we've learned a lot like yeah, as you know,
science is good, we've learned a lot of things.

Speaker 1 (25:39):
I heard science is wrong and it's making frogs.

Speaker 6 (25:42):
Gay, right, Well that's true.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
Yeah, that is trueby obviously it's from.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
A real doctor. Everybody you heard.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
That frogs are gay now, but it's okay.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
To be gay, So the frogs are fine.

Speaker 7 (26:00):
We're pro gay, except for delivery babies. We need some
people not.

Speaker 1 (26:06):
To right.

Speaker 10 (26:09):
Ruined that could kind of ruin the business heterosexuals if
we haven't.

Speaker 6 (26:17):
And all that. Never mind, I've retracted my statement.

Speaker 1 (26:20):
There you go. Yeah, I've often said life would be
a lot easier if everybody was gay. Well, no, I'm
saying that, like as a joke, but also I'm thinking about, like,
you know, not for nothing, but like men and women
don't understand each other for shit. And if the person

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you were married to was also another same as you,
there might be a lot of fewers.

Speaker 7 (26:50):
I think that statement implies that you don't have a
lot of gay friends.

Speaker 6 (26:58):
Of the same issues that everyone say.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
I wasn't saying I feel like the issues would still
be still be there. That's not how common. Oh sorry,
you were ruining the premise of the joke.

Speaker 6 (27:14):
Comedy Killer, Comedy Killer.

Speaker 1 (27:16):
I am very aware that your.

Speaker 6 (27:22):
Joke get some gay friends, please.

Speaker 1 (27:27):
I run the kitchen every year at a gay Bonds field.
I'm I'm well.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Connected to he's a step away, say some of my
best friends, some of my best friends.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I'm well connected to the community. I am aware they
fight with each other. That's not how the joke works.
The joke works. And if I was married to a
dude I wouldn't have to ever be like, hey, can
you turn that Hallmark movie off? I want to watch football,
because you know my husband would also want to watch football.
That's the joke, But I like the Mark movies. You're

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also ruining the joke anyway.

Speaker 6 (28:07):
I just wonder if the joke is the problem.

Speaker 1 (28:12):
You may have discovered something.

Speaker 6 (28:15):
Maybe it's not us. But I do love you.

Speaker 1 (28:23):
But I do love you.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
I love you in a heteronormative way. Thank you, very binary.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
Platonic, pro binary, heteronormative way. Yeah, okay, let's get back.
Let's get back to this question I do have about
the hormone replacement. I am nominally trying to learn something here.
So what does what Why do you want to prescribe

(28:51):
this stuff? What can it do that people shouldn't be
or you know, people are afraid, okay, but here's what
it can do for you. Maybe you don't be afraid
if you know about that stuff.

Speaker 7 (29:02):
Right, So I'm going to answer that question in kind
of a different way of you know, what did we
expect the FDA to do as menopause providers? So the
difference there's two different kind of applications for estrogen. So

(29:23):
estrogen it's a hormone. It does a lot of things,
especially in the female body. You know, it's in both genders,
but I know more about females than males because I'm
a gynecologist and that's what I've studied. But it does
have some risks. You know, it's good for estrogen's good
for bone hell. You know, it can be good for skin,

(29:47):
hair joints. There's some data that it helps cardiovascular disease,
that it can help our brain, you know, mood disorders
associated with estrogen changes. You know, really it's there's estrogen
receptors throughout the whole body. But it does it does

(30:07):
have some risk. It can cause blood clots, which is
the word we use is thrombogenic, So it is a
a chemical in the body that can cause clots. So
if you already have a risk of a clot, you
don't want to add a thrombogenic hormone because that will
increase the risks.

Speaker 6 (30:27):
So that's something that we worry about.

Speaker 7 (30:29):
And then it can cause cells to proliferate in the breast,
like if you're growing a person and you need to
breastfeed that person, Estrogen causes breast tissue to proliferate uterine
tissue to proliferate.

Speaker 6 (30:44):
That's a good.

Speaker 7 (30:46):
Thing that it's doing. If it's doing those that not
in that context, it can increase your risk for breast cancer,
uterine cancer growing cells that right. So it's a proliferative
thromboegenic hormone you know, but has some benefits too. Okay,

(31:06):
that's systemic. So if you take a pill, do it
through the skin. You know, it gets into your system.
It can do those things. It can suppress the ovary,
so in somebody that's menstruating, it can suppress the ovary
and help you not ovulate, which is how it works
for breath control. That's a good thing. It can help

(31:26):
with PMS, you know, it has a lot of good effects.
Actually decrease your risk of ovarian cancer when you're ovulating.
If you stop ovulating, that can decrease your risks. So
there's some good things that birth control does higher doses,
and then in menopause you know, there's some good benefits

(31:47):
as well. Kind of like I mentioned, the vagina is
a separate part than the rest of our system.

Speaker 1 (31:55):
It doesn't play with the rest of the system, is it.
It's connected though, right.

Speaker 7 (31:59):
It's connected and it does play with the rest of
the system, but the vagina loves estrogen in.

Speaker 6 (32:05):
A different way.

Speaker 1 (32:06):
Okay the system.

Speaker 7 (32:07):
Yeah, so vagina part estrogen, and so after menopause, when
vaginal estrogen goes down, the vagina is not as stretchy,
there's not as much lubrication, and so it can cause
a lot of pain with intercourse. And then even in
more elderly people, can cause urinary tract infections and issues

(32:32):
because the lower third of the urethra in the vagina
come from the same cell in the embryo. Both have
estrogen receptors. So actually having vaginal estrogen in the genito
urinary system helps prevent a lot of issues, not just
for sexual function, but mostly we've used vaginal estrogen to

(32:56):
help with penetrative sex.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
And is there a way to like give it in
the way that only targets that area.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
And not suspecty give it vaginally. Oh, it's just like
put it all up in there rocket science.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
No, I mean it seems like an obvious. Uh. I
didn't know if there was like a delivery method.

Speaker 7 (33:16):
You know, there is a there's a little applicator, there's creams,
pills and suppositories. The vaginal mucosa is similar to kind
of what's inside the cheek, So you put medicine in there,
it dissolves, gets into the tissue, and so what we
so that doesn't get into the rest of the system,

(33:37):
doesn't cause increased risk of heart attack, stroke, and breast cancer.

Speaker 1 (33:40):
Right, So there's a lot of people.

Speaker 6 (33:43):
With breast cancer have vaginal issues.

Speaker 7 (33:45):
A lot of people that have had a blood clot
have vaginal issues. So for a long time, gynecologists have
been like, you can't put the same black box on
vaginal estrogen that you have on systemic estrogen.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Because they're really differ different things.

Speaker 7 (34:00):
Different misk profiles, different benefits, And so what what we
were pushing for as menopause providers is to get the
black box off of vaginal estrogen.

Speaker 6 (34:11):
Okay, but what Kennedy and.

Speaker 7 (34:16):
What's his name, Marty Marcute, the FDA guy. Sure, they
just took the black box off of all estrogen.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Yeah, I want to ask you were kind of like, WHOA,
that's not what we asked for, is that?

Speaker 6 (34:31):
But it was a little different than we expected.

Speaker 9 (34:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (34:34):
Yeah, Well that gets to this question of do you
think that the current HHS because this does sound like
it's very pro woman. Yeah, and for that to come
out of this administration sounds confusing to say the least.
So do you think that like, once they realize that
they've done something good for women, they're going to take
it back or something. Is it just because they don't

(34:56):
understand what's really happening to worry?

Speaker 6 (34:58):
Is it?

Speaker 7 (35:00):
This is definitely like an abusive relationship, you know, where
they're like, no more reproductive rights and we're going to
take away birth control, but here you can have metopause hormones.
You know, it's like ah yay, ah yay. You know,
it's it's confusing. But what we worry about when a

(35:20):
lot of people worry about that are taking care of
patients in this space, is it just it kind of
increases the confusion rather than decreases.

Speaker 6 (35:30):
It, right, Right, because messaging evidence based right.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
I think about this all the time when occasionally the
Trump people, whoever they are, whatever the circumstance, are say
something right and you're like, wait a minute, how did
you get that right? Everything you do is wrong and
you got this thing right. And now that's going to
confuse people because if the reflex is to not trust them, right,

(35:57):
they get something right, how do you explain to somebody
all right, well, this one you can believe, but not
all these other ones. That's a like okay, taking food
dye out of food. It's like, yeah, all right, sure
that's not harmful.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
That great.

Speaker 7 (36:14):
Yeah, everybody is better in Europe when they're eating bread
over there, right.

Speaker 6 (36:18):
Yeah, okays wrong with our food?

Speaker 1 (36:20):
Okay, that's all fine. It's like, but it's the blind
squirrel finding a nutting. It doesn't mean that that Like, also,
vaccines are going to kill you, Like, so how do
you how do you square that circle? Because you've got
a terrible messenger right in RFK and all of these
other whack a doodles out here, and then they get
something like this, right, how do you explain that? Suppose

(36:42):
you have a patient comes in, It's like, look, I
heard this thing and I want to you know, it
sounds good to me, but it also sounds like it
came from a crazy person. Now I don't want to
do it.

Speaker 7 (36:51):
Well, I think for us, for I'm gonna say for
me said, I can't talk for everybody obviously, that it
is helpful that people are talking about this at all.
Women's health, right, and so I am taking it as
an encouraging sign, you know. I mean the fact that

(37:17):
I'm on your show a third time and now I'm
talking about vaginal estrogen versus other things, you know. I mean,
that's huge because that's not something that we were talking
about outside the office, you know, for a long time.
Even I had a patient today who's in this phase
of life and didn't understand the difference, you know, and.

Speaker 1 (37:37):
So you told them to tune into Chipchat tonight so
that they yeah, well, because it's not covered for their
time and insurance. You know, you only get so long
for a visit, but here you get a long form
interview where they're really going to learn stuff.

Speaker 7 (37:51):
True, but in my cash base practice, you get it
as much time as you need.

Speaker 1 (37:55):
So there you go. Check it out, men start dot com,
give me the cash.

Speaker 7 (38:04):
But even you know, even I had to look stuff
up for today just to make sure I was on
the right message.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
And I've been doing this for seventeen.

Speaker 7 (38:15):
Years, you know, and I was there when the WHI
study came out, and I've been practicing like with real
people for this whole time. But I wanted to make
sure that I was saying the right thing, because it's
confusing even for a women's health expert, you know, and
before med school, I even study hormone receptors, you know,

(38:36):
for two years.

Speaker 6 (38:37):
So if I'm.

Speaker 7 (38:38):
Confused, you know, the lay public is going to be
even more confused.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
And it's hard to break it down.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
But it's interesting that, you know, Kennedy, it's like a
broken clock, you know, being right twice a.

Speaker 6 (38:56):
Day, and it is confusing.

Speaker 7 (39:00):
To be honest, I don't know how to feel about
this whole thing, but I think it will help patients
access these medications better because they're not going to have
the black box which.

Speaker 6 (39:10):
Makes them afraid.

Speaker 7 (39:12):
What we're worried about is it's kind of oversimplifying that
these medications in general and kind of making them sound
like they're totally safe for everybody, and that's not the case.
You know, there are some risks with these medicines, and
you should get them from somebody that knows your history,

(39:36):
knows your family history, understands those risks and can help
you understand that before just giving it to everybody. And
so I think that's what we're kind of worried about.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
You know. Obviously, these are prescription meds and the thing
that you get from.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
No, I think you can get them online.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
Well that's where I'm going with this. Yeah, So one
of the things that we've learned about is, you know,
compounding for pharmacies who are masquerading as these alternative medication providers,
whether that's Hymns or ROW or all of these other
things you see out there. What they are doing is
they do nominally give you a consultation and a prescription,

(40:17):
and but it's not a good one and it's not
a real one, and they're not asking your family history,
and they're not asking your your family history risk of
blood clots or cancer or anything like that. They're just
having you check some boxes that make it legal for
them to then sell you these meds. Let's be clear
about that too. So I worry that, like taking this

(40:39):
black box off of here now, if people are getting
these meds from say MENO, start right, they're having a consultation,
they are going over the family history and more.

Speaker 7 (40:50):
Certified gynecologists, you know, with a valid medical license.

Speaker 6 (40:54):
It's a different you know scenario.

Speaker 1 (40:57):
Well, and you're going to explain it to them in
a thorough way that and answer all of their questions.
Whatever they've really got but if they do find a
way to sort of short circuit that and go online
to you know, Chinese estrogen dot com and get a bunch.

Speaker 6 (41:10):
Of many Yeah, I say, I know you're repping the hat, but.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, it's a it is that kind of a practice though, Right, that's.

Speaker 6 (41:20):
The big like, here's your bag of pills.

Speaker 1 (41:23):
Yeah, good luck. Yeah. So I mean, is that is
that a thing that that the the menopause provider community
is concerned about?

Speaker 6 (41:35):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7 (41:37):
And and also you know for hundreds of years there's
been snake oil salesman, right sure.

Speaker 6 (41:46):
So part of that is.

Speaker 7 (41:48):
That when people don't feel good, they want something that's
going to make them feel good.

Speaker 6 (41:54):
Forever. And so you go online, yeah, and you and.

Speaker 7 (41:58):
You see that that HHS secretary is telling you, you know,
this is going to prevent heart disease, prevent dementia, prevent
bone loss.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
You know, without any nuance to the discussion.

Speaker 7 (42:13):
You're going to be like great, you know, especially Maha,
it's it's who's been so anti pharma?

Speaker 6 (42:20):
And then it's now like but this one's good, right right.
It's confusing, and.

Speaker 7 (42:26):
It's interesting because the menopause society, which is you know,
kind of these older nerdy menopause doctors that have you know,
been doing menopause for years before it was cool, and
now everyone's talking about menopause. You know, their membership has
exponentially grown in the last three years. Like they showed

(42:49):
this graph of members It's crazy because everyone's talking about
menopause now. After the press conference.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
By the FDA Commissioner and as.

Speaker 7 (43:00):
They came out with like all these slides on their
Instagram that was like, and I'll just read is you know,
should hormone therapy use.

Speaker 6 (43:12):
Be used to prevent heart disease?

Speaker 11 (43:15):
No?

Speaker 6 (43:15):
And then they have all the reasons no.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
The next life, should hormone therapy be used to prevent dementia?

Speaker 6 (43:23):
No, here's all the reasons, you.

Speaker 7 (43:26):
Know, and they're just like, does hormone therapy prevent bone
laws that protect against fracture risk?

Speaker 6 (43:31):
Yes, you know.

Speaker 7 (43:32):
So they're trying to kind of combat this misinformation, which
isn't totally misinformation. It's just that we don't have enough
data to make these definitive statements either way, and so
that's the danger in my mind.

Speaker 6 (43:50):
But everybody except for men, should.

Speaker 7 (43:53):
Be on vaginal estrogen because it's the best I think
that's what we thought would happen.

Speaker 1 (43:58):
The thing I would worry about is these like tradwife
influencer MAHA types who can get a financial benefit from
telling people to follow their link in their bio to
get their own estrogen stuff, who are going to go
out and sort of vastly oversimplify and grossly misrepresent the

(44:19):
actual science on this because as you just spent the
last eighteen minutes or whatever thirty five minutes describing to us,
it's very very complicated and not something that fits in
a two and a half minute Instagram video.

Speaker 6 (44:35):
And it's not cool.

Speaker 7 (44:36):
Like you're at a cocktail party and they're like, oh,
you do menopause, Like, tell me about estrogen and you
get into it for two minutes and they're like, oh,
I see my friend over there.

Speaker 6 (44:46):
You know, it's like it's not buzzy and cool to
talk about.

Speaker 1 (44:50):
So it probably will be as saying coming on this show,
because is there a way chumps is real? Right?

Speaker 7 (44:58):
I mean, I'm trying to use the word vagina as
much as possible to make it cool, but that's my.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
I'm a big fan of vagina. Let me just say.
I mean, most of my friends are big fans that yeah, okay, right,
Brian com medical vulgar that it just came from you said.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
One question I had was around I guess, like technology
in women's health, like have you seen I was. I
was watching What's your Name Carrie Egan, like with Teel
Health and they had like this wand like, it seems
there's being there's these advancements I guess in technology. I
guess is there something other things that you see that
you're like, oh, this seems to.

Speaker 1 (45:41):
Be this robot delivered vaginal I don't know if a
robot I don't go that far, but.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
Are there technologies that you've seen and you're like, oh,
I could see this being a benefit.

Speaker 3 (45:52):
In the future, I guess in the field.

Speaker 7 (45:59):
So I'm not anti influencer in any way. I think
that it has really increased the awareness, you know, has
moved forward the conversation.

Speaker 6 (46:14):
It has made people use the right language when they're.

Speaker 7 (46:19):
Asking questions to their providers and like figuring out, you know,
do I need this. It's destigmatized aging in a lot
of ways, which for a long time, you know, women
weren't supposed to age so or talk about menopause, or
the fact that you know, their value is having babies,

(46:40):
and that part's done. You know, this whole influencer menopause
movement has really made it okay to even talk about
the fact that we're in menopause, which even five years
ago people were uncomfortable with. So I give them huge
credit for all of those things. And then obviously, you know,

(47:00):
I'm doing a menopause uion practice, which would be unheard
of ten years ago, you know, because people it's not
like people weren't going through.

Speaker 6 (47:09):
Menopause, but we kind of had.

Speaker 7 (47:14):
Just accepted women suffering as normal and you know, you're
not supposed to talk about it.

Speaker 6 (47:19):
And then generations before that people didn't.

Speaker 7 (47:21):
Live this long in menopause, you know, So it's a
new phenomenon, and so I appreciate everything that they have done.
The issue for me, as somebody who actually practices and
toxic patients is it's way oversimplified. And this is another
issue with big kind of corporate.

Speaker 6 (47:40):
Medicine, and you know, all the money.

Speaker 7 (47:45):
Going into and nurse practitioners and pas and kind of
trying to make protocols for everything that fit into these
you know, fifteen minute visits that private equity can then
monetize is that doesn't work for this stage of life.

Speaker 6 (48:03):
You know, it's it's not that everybody at fifty.

Speaker 7 (48:08):
Here's your patch, here's your progesterone. You know, we're cured menopause.
Here's your bag of pills. You know, come back if
you need a golp one and we'll talk to you
then and have a nice day.

Speaker 6 (48:19):
You know.

Speaker 7 (48:20):
So it's the oversimplification, and that's what this FDA statement
kind of did as well, you know, making it seem like, yes,
menopause is a disease that we need to treat, and
here's the treatment, and yay, it's available and it's safe
for everybody.

Speaker 6 (48:40):
But that's not totally the case. And so the problem
when that happens is you're going to have adverse effects,
and then that's going to increase distrust and kind of
make that bias of oh, look they said it was
safe and it's not.

Speaker 7 (48:58):
I told you, And then we're going to the pendulum
is going to swep back again. And what we need
is time, nuanced personalized care, you know, whole body care,
and what the system is now just doesn't.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
Nuanced and time is the name of this show. But
also that's.

Speaker 2 (49:22):
I mean, you know, private equity ever touched anything and
made it better. I don't think so, I don't.

Speaker 1 (49:30):
Yeah, I watched the Phil Edwards thing about that. That
was kind of interesting, but uh yeah, I mean my
business and.

Speaker 6 (49:37):
I'll take some money if they're out there.

Speaker 1 (49:39):
Yeah, exactly. My business has also been eclipsed by this
private equity, which has changed the way from where we
used to go fix people's air conditioning and get them
cooling or heat or whatever to now basically all of
the home service companies exist only to sell you new equipment,

(50:00):
and they do not. We don't actually, yeah, nobody fixes
anything because it's time invested and that's not making money.
So it's I appreciate that that that impact. Obviously, it's
very different air conditioning versus your uh you know, I
don't know. I mean, well I would I would like

(50:21):
to say that, Yeah, air conditioning is as important as
your health. Because I in Arizona. Yeah right, it's gross.

Speaker 7 (50:29):
It's going to be uninhabitable and twenty thirty according to Google.

Speaker 1 (50:34):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (50:35):
I was just out there last yesterday actually, and I
was like, is this place going to survive?

Speaker 6 (50:41):
And Google is like no.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
No, And Google said, you know why because we built
a data center out here and sucked up what little
water there was left after we built a bunch of
golf courses. Right, yeah, you know this stuff's supposed to have.

Speaker 6 (50:56):
It in soccer field, which is why I was there.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
Well that's okay, hey, so not one of those turf fields.
It gets like fifty degrees hotter than it does anywhere
else because of that chewed up tire rubber they use
for darky cancer. I was gonna say.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Cancer.

Speaker 1 (51:14):
You can smell those fields from blocks away, like they're
off gassing at an incredible rate. It's very obviously not good,
but you know, you don't have to maintain them, and
you can play on them in the rain, so it's great.
Why not you don't have to mow them.

Speaker 6 (51:30):
Hey, US men's soccer needs help, so what are you
gonna do?

Speaker 1 (51:34):
Yeah, we have to give the rest of the world
cancer in order for US men to be like No,
Tyler Adams scored a goal from like basically midfield on
his on you know, in real soccer so well, England's
real soccer there there's like you know, speaking of which, Hey,

(51:55):
t how's how's it going in Villa Park these days? Anyways,
let's get to you.

Speaker 3 (52:00):
He's so continue about our conversation.

Speaker 1 (52:03):
You were going to win that game.

Speaker 6 (52:04):
That a Ravens comment.

Speaker 1 (52:07):
That's a gunner's joke.

Speaker 6 (52:09):
The Ravens did me wrong to this week?

Speaker 1 (52:12):
Oh yeah, I only got six right all week later
it was a rough that's bad bad, Okay, So we
do want to Yeah, there you go. That's all right.
We need someone to blame the turf. Oh that's a
great answer. Yes, since we switched to turf Field and

(52:32):
ann Arbor, everything went fucking crazy. That's it. Thank you,
Thank you, doctor Shannon. You found You've given me a
postage stamp on which to stand, and I'm going to
fight from there.

Speaker 6 (52:44):
Nothing nothing, that coach is the problem.

Speaker 8 (52:47):
Yeah, you're not joining us for that segment. I don't okay,
I think you can get whatever there hokey over there,
yeah go boo.

Speaker 1 (53:02):
All right, let me ask you a very important question
before we let you plug all of your stuff. People
may have noticed in recent photos of our current president
that it does look like he has a bit of
female anatomy on his neck. So would you recommend uh

(53:24):
the vaginal estrogen for President Trump's neck neck vagina?

Speaker 6 (53:30):
I'm gonna no comment that one big time.

Speaker 1 (53:34):
Sorry, it's not a probably answer.

Speaker 6 (53:40):
I know this reposted.

Speaker 1 (53:43):
Oh yeah, we'll be we'll be reposted.

Speaker 6 (53:46):
I'm not trying to get canceled, sir, but.

Speaker 1 (53:52):
Right alone canceled. There's nobody's gonna see that.

Speaker 7 (53:55):
I was gonna say I could probably use some estrogen,
vaginal estrogen.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
Poor you say that, but you wouldn't save you.

Speaker 6 (54:06):
I will save you.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
Don't worry. I will you know you can.

Speaker 6 (54:12):
Put estrogen a lot of places. Yeah, that's all I'll say.

Speaker 1 (54:17):
Okay, y, that's where we're not endorsing the arm pair.

Speaker 6 (54:23):
I am really glad that I looked up all these
stats for this talk.

Speaker 1 (54:26):
Yeah. I want you. It's gonna be at our level. Okay. So,
speaking of things that people can look up, how can
they look up Menostar and how can they they call
you or get an appointment or whatever if they need
to get vaginal estrogen or anything else.

Speaker 7 (54:43):
Any other kind Uh menostar dot com dash for hot Flash.

Speaker 6 (54:47):
I love that so much and I give you one
hundred percent credit for that.

Speaker 12 (54:52):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (54:52):
They can do a free fifteen minute console through the
website or just join our six month program to get
you started. UH into this phase where you can thrive,
not just survive.

Speaker 1 (55:08):
That's what we want you thrive, not just survive, to survive.

Speaker 7 (55:12):
And there's lots of information on the website. And then
you can also email me as Catherine at menostar dot com,
M E N O, DASH S T A r T
dot com. It's my personal email that I check all
the time, and I would you know if you have
any questions, love to talk to you about it.

Speaker 6 (55:30):
There you go, it's men of Next questions though, no.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
It's just not about your neck.

Speaker 6 (55:37):
It's all.

Speaker 1 (55:40):
It's not a neck clinic.

Speaker 6 (55:43):
Those I will block.

Speaker 1 (55:45):
Here you go.

Speaker 3 (55:48):
Surprise has blocked me yet, you know.

Speaker 7 (55:51):
Maybe after this yeah, say twenty twenty six, no more
chip chat.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
There will not be what a fourth time?

Speaker 6 (56:01):
No, I love you guys. I'll talk about hormones all day,
talking about testostero, my other favorite hormone.

Speaker 1 (56:09):
Well you should we should talk about that. Yeah, we
should talk about that, but that will be coach that
I was gonna say, that'd be almost like having uh
men go to the doctor, and we we don't do that.
So I do you know why? Yeah, it causes autism.
So no, no, autism is caused by circumcision were well, yeah,

(56:31):
that's what people get it.

Speaker 6 (56:34):
We need some autism.

Speaker 1 (56:36):
I mean a lot of autistic people do amazing.

Speaker 7 (56:41):
Yeah, you think those data centers were made by non
autistic people?

Speaker 1 (56:46):
Very definitely not. No, they don't look like at all. Virginia. Well,
we had we had Chris Bowden on a few weeks
ago and he was discussing about weaponized autism and how
he uses that to be like a superhero. And I
love that idea. You know, everybody's got a little twist

(57:07):
of something that makes them different, and it's it's so
much of our culture was based on suppressing those differences
and trying to you know, harmonize everybody with each other.
And that now there's a lot more acceptance of like, oh,
what's different about you? And that's the thing I get
to celebrate and like and enjoy. And I think that

(57:28):
that's a great thing, and I think it might unlock
a lot of potential because all of us have something
that's special and weird, and instead of hiding it, maybe
we should share it.

Speaker 6 (57:37):
I think the kids are way better at that than.

Speaker 7 (57:41):
Oh yeah, age, I'm forty nine, and you know it's
not even a question for them.

Speaker 6 (57:49):
Yeah, think about it.

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Yeah, they're well they they would never say, like, what's
wrong with you? They but they introduce each other and
they go, this is this person. Look at the cool
thing about them exactly or something. And I think that's fantastic,
and I think I can't wait to.

Speaker 6 (58:06):
I wanted an ip.

Speaker 7 (58:09):
Yeah, jealous that he didn't have one, and I'm like,
you should be happy that you don't have one. He's
like why they get like a special teacher and all
this stuff.

Speaker 3 (58:17):
It's like, okay, yeah, completely different than.

Speaker 6 (58:24):
When I was a kid. Yeah, so it is good.

Speaker 7 (58:27):
And you know, they don't even describe people. I mean
in this area. Maybe it's different in other parts of
the country. Yeah, I mean we live in We definitely
live in a bubble.

Speaker 6 (58:38):
Yes, that's acceptance.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
And you want to caution people against like too much
of that because you don't want to be elon. So
you have to get like the right mix of like
you can celebrate whatever makes you different and weird, but
try to be not that weird.

Speaker 6 (58:55):
But he is the first trillionaire or something like, yeah,
he's not.

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Speaker 7 (59:58):
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Speaker 6 (01:00:07):
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Speaker 1 (01:00:08):
So I can't wait to join the Menopause Society.

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Speaker 6 (01:00:23):
All the Jewish guys are in it.

Speaker 1 (01:00:25):
Collecting societies sounds a little rough there. Let's not be
doing that good. All right, We're going to take a
break and let doctor. She and Catherine go back to.

Speaker 6 (01:00:46):
Thank you so much, Happy holidays. Thank you for ladies,
I say hello and I love them.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
I will absolutely let them know we're going to take
a break your listening to Tipchat on Beltwegh Radio and beyond.

Speaker 6 (01:01:04):
Thank you guys.

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Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
All right, welcome back to chip Chat here on Belwegh
Radio and beyond. I'm your chip with me is tz
uh and who is that Brian? We have to make
sure Brian's mike works because he's gonna.

Speaker 15 (01:03:37):
Be yes, I'm here, I'm here, I'm here. The show
that was it's sort of like a compilation. It's from
Holiday Music Motel and it's from the album called Love
on a Holiday Volume eight.

Speaker 16 (01:03:52):
Okay, and this so so yeah, it's like now that's
what I call him music for the holidays for for yeah,
for hollow pretty much, it didn't sound very holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:04:03):
Feel I was gonna say it didn't feel that. I mean,
but see you like holiday music.

Speaker 1 (01:04:07):
It did have a you know, a few off color
comments in there, so that was all right, it's it
was a Brian song. You can tell it was about something,
all right. So now we've come to the part of
the show that's called the rundown. This is where we

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tell you about some stuff that's gone out of the news.
If we were real news professionals, it would sound a
little something like this Go Blue.

Speaker 17 (01:04:39):
That is from Beltwait Radio and Beyond in Washington, d
c Emmy nominated TV news man and just bona fide
sexual beast Jase Scott Smith. And this is the part
of the show where I tell some stuff about the
well maybe not me, but somebody else is gonna tell
some stuff about what's happening in the news.

Speaker 1 (01:04:55):
So, uh, what's going on in the news? Fellas? Thanks Jay,
don't forget to check them out on Chan before. In
Detroit on the weekends, he's the weekend anchor now. And
that's all because of the chip chat bump.

Speaker 10 (01:05:06):
All right, sore, Sorry, that's gonna be great for his ratings.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
Regain your showback, take your show back. He is never
gonna want to be friends with us anymore, ye, all right,
So go ahead, No, let's see if we can ruin
his career after build it up for so long, the
chip chad bump. You know, look you can't you can't
deny it. It's real. Look at all these successful people

(01:05:41):
you go higher. That's right. My bell needs a bump,
the bell bump.

Speaker 3 (01:05:55):
Yeah, it's not. It's not it's not being.

Speaker 1 (01:05:57):
It's not belling. I'm doing something wrong. I don't know.
All right, here's what we want to talk about. So,
like a lot of people could have guessed, like here's
some bad shit that's gonna happen with Donald Trump in
charge of the country, right, And like you could have
guessed that people would lose their health insurance, people are
gonna lose food stamps. The farmers are all gonna have

(01:06:17):
their crops burned in front of their eyes and made
to watch it. Those things are like expected under a
Trump administration, you know, yeah, oh yeah, Trump phones and
like gold bars and like the million dollars citizenship card
or whatever. What do you cat? What the the cut

(01:06:39):
the air base that we're gonna have, you know, yeah,
the right, the Katari air base in Idaho. You know
that's all that part we all kind of like expected.
It's not good, but it's what we expected. I did
not have piracy on my Bengo Card. It did not
occur to me that one of the things that what

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Trump would do is use the US Navy, Coast Guard
and FBI to just sail around and snatch people's ships
full of oil. But that's what we're doing. So here's
what's happened. There is a ship. It's gone by several names.
It used to be called let's see the Adisa maybe,

(01:07:22):
and I think it's got another name now, the Skipper,
and yeah, and the sister ship Gilligan. So exactly, here's
the thing about ships, right, like you think, oh, these
are big, how can anybody hide them? You can't really
be sneaky with something that they That's not true. They're

(01:07:44):
they're very small compared to the ocean. It's very easy
to hide them because you gotta find them, and the
open ocean is huge. And so ships have transponders and
communication gear on them that like sort of broadcast ask
who they are and kind of where they're going, and
all that stuff, which is necessary for safe navigation. Right

(01:08:06):
to think of it like air traffic control, there's the
same thing in the ocean. Consequences are a little different, right,
Things are moving a lot slower, but they are huge
and forces mass times acceleration. You don't have a lot
of acceleration, but you sure should have a lot of mass.
So you gotta be careful about this stuff. And a
few feet in one direction makes all the difference. So

(01:08:28):
that's why they have all this gear on. Well, what
the skipper or ads or whatever it is has been
doing is it's been moving oil and fuel around to
various places that are under sanction. This is the story.
We don't know how any of this is, but this
is what we've been told by OFAC, which is the

(01:08:50):
Defense Department's Office of Foreign Asset Control. So their job
is like enforced sanctions essentially, and sanctions are when the
United States uses its economic might to push other countries
around and say, if you want to be able to
do business in a global market, you better behave yourself.
We're going to make it very difficult for money and

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or stuff to move through the things that we control,
which in some cases is apparently the open ocean. So
you know, yeah, right, yeah, okay, sure. Well we're the
ones with the big navy, so that'svale you have the
big fleet. Yeah, so this ship has been going back
and forth between maybe Iran and Venezuela and Cuba and

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these you know, these places aren't close together. There's things
on on the water for for weeks at a time,
and it's been hiding by hooking up its transponder to
like a buoy that it left floating off the coast
of h Venezuela. And it's like, hey, I'm just sitting here,
and as far as the digital world knows, that's where

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the ship is, and it's just sailing around without its
transponders or maybe it's got another one, who knows, but
it's out here kind of like hiding in playing sight
with under a different name for lack of a better
way to explain it. So the US Navy and the
and the Coast Guard and uh and and they filmed it.

(01:10:17):
Of course, of course they filmed it with drones. They
flew helicopters out over where this uh, this ship was,
and they landed on it and like filmed themselves walking
around and captured the crew, you know, at gunpoint, and
then held them and they're like we are the captain now,

(01:10:37):
and then and then and then they took the ship
and and the rest of the wir was like whoa whoa,
what the fuck are you doing just taking this ship?
And uh, the United States government was like, well, it's
under sanctions, and the rest of aur was like, well,
what's your legal justification for taking the ship? And the

(01:10:59):
US government was like shut up up, and they're like no, no,
why are you taking the ship? And and Trump was like,
shut up, shut up, legal justification. We don't fuck your
legal justification. And then they go, well, what are you
gonna do with all the oil on the ship? And
he goes, I guess we're gonna keep it. So not
that I want to agree with the Maduro government on much, right,

(01:11:23):
but this does look like a pretty open and shut
case of piracy, Like and nothing's gonna and nothing's gonna
be done about it, nobody's gonna who's gonna stop them?
That doesn't say nothing's gonna be done about that. So
we just had Pearl Harbor Day, Right, that's the last
time anybody tried to do anything to the US Navy
and didn't go very well for them.

Speaker 2 (01:11:43):
No, it actually it actually forced the whole country to
go to to actually join a war.

Speaker 3 (01:11:49):
They had no business, they had no interest in jointing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:52):
Uh got away with raping and pillaging all of East Asia.

Speaker 2 (01:11:55):
If they all of it, all of it, Europe could
have been been terrible. Actually we've been yeah, would have
been everything would have been. We didn't it would have
been crazy if that didn't happen. Actually kind of thank
god that that they.

Speaker 1 (01:12:10):
All those people got killed or whatever. But if that
didn't happen, the you know, the United States might not
have gotten in the war, and the world would look
very different, so very different. So it's one of those
things where it's you know, history isn't good or bad,
it just is and it is exactly but this is
clearly piracy, and I mean what else could you possibly

(01:12:32):
call it? And what what is this legal? Just and
of course they use all their favorite words of like
oh yeah, the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and HESBLA and Cuba.
Are we still on Cuba?

Speaker 7 (01:12:43):
Like what is this?

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Like, oh, Cuba is what is this nineteen sixty five?
What are we doing here? I mean feeling people's oil?
It did cause my gas prices to go up by
like thirty cents at my local station. By the way,
like this rocked globe oil markets like in a way
that we really haven't seen before. Because there are things

(01:13:05):
that mess with global markets and and some of it
is about, you know, shipping right when the Houthis were
shooting it stuff and making it difficult to move things,
or the Iranians looked like they were going to block
off the straits of hormones and all that kind of
stuff that does mess with the price of oil. But
nobody had figured that the United States would stop defending

(01:13:26):
free navigation on the high seas and switched to piracy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:33):
I better I hear it, I better and I hear
shit about anybody from Somalia. Somalia, I better not hear
any shit about anything, because what.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
The hell is this? Do you know why the marine
him talks about the shores of Tripoli, Like, what were
marines doing in Libya at the beginning of the country's birth.
You know what they were doing. They were fighting pirates,
the Barbary pirates. These guys were out here capturing ships

(01:14:03):
off the coast of North Africa in the Mediterranean, and
the US Navy and the Marines were like, no, you're
not doing that anymore. They sailed over there and they
landed on the shores of Tripoli in Libya and killed
all the Barbary pirates. And we're like back to free
navigation of the seas. That's the first foreign engagement the

(01:14:24):
United States had, and now we're the ones doing the piracy. Yeah, yeah,
exactly exactly. The response to that, if you've got a

(01:14:46):
Dolly Roger, you may as well flip the US flag
and just fly that, you know, right? Yeah? Sure. Does
this mean that the next election is going to be
between of course Donald Trump and uh and Jack Sparrow clearly, Yeah,
I'm voting for Johnny Depp. Yeah, all right, so uh,

(01:15:07):
this one might be something that you know a little
bit about. So uh, because you know, you're you're you're
not a real American. You're you're a new American. Right,
that's I think that's what they call that, right, is
that that's the term new American. Okay, but not not
real American. I don't know what what did we use?

(01:15:27):
Tea drinker? You're you're one of Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:15:31):
Tea drinker, I don't know what. One step away from
calling me.

Speaker 1 (01:15:35):
Amy blimey, yeah, a limey bastard. That's one. Look, we
won those wars, we get to call England whatever we want.
That's how that works. Now you get to say we yeah, okay,
So when you became a US citizen after you went

(01:15:58):
through all There's there's a whole process, right, You don't
just like show up and fill out a form and
be like, I'd like to be an American now.

Speaker 3 (01:16:03):
Yeah, no, there's a whole process.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
Mine started right before COVID, so COVID kind of put
it like a but I still got it.

Speaker 2 (01:16:12):
It was done through COVID, but yeah, no, hey, a
decent amount of money and then yeah, you fill out
a lot of paperwork and you send in all types
of information about yourself. I mean it was I feel
like it was easier for me, uh because I've been
here for so long. I have a job and all
these other things. Yeah, and I had a green card.

(01:16:33):
So but like as I'm really like what it says,
like extensive interviews like them doing background checks and shit
like that. But the interview didn't feel like when I
did it. It didn't feel crazy. It just was real basic.

Speaker 1 (01:16:46):
But I also wonder like they look at me and
like why the hell is this person here? Yeah, well
they can't write why not why is he here in
the country?

Speaker 3 (01:16:54):
But why is he here for this interview?

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Exactly? Like where where? Because everything about she says kids
from d C, from.

Speaker 2 (01:17:02):
DC, full blood an American. Yeah, it's all it's all
outside the paperwork. But but I could see, I mean
because they and yeah, they have the test. And they
asked you, like, what were we fighting the Cold War about?
It's like, oh, like it was funny to me some
of the questions. I was like, Uh, we're fighting against communism.

(01:17:23):
But that's not for a lot of people, don't correct, yes,
correct a lot of people. Not even a lot of people.
A lot of Americans would not be able to pass.

Speaker 1 (01:17:31):
So most Yeah, that's the thing that everybody likes to
point out is that most native born Americans could not
pass the citizenship tests, which I knowed to be true
because one of the things during the Obama administration that
happened was that the Smithsonian, specifically the American History Museum
partnered with i S at the time, it was called

(01:17:52):
i S to create study guides for people who were
going to be taking the naturalization test. And I thought
that was really cool, and I thought, well, let's test ourselves.
Let's everybody I know, let's see if we how well
we do. I of course aced it, and but most
people did not. And then the study guides were really

(01:18:15):
cool because they didn't just like give you the answers
and like do that, but they were incorporated the exhibits
from the museum. So instead of context behind it, yeah yeah,
instead of just talking about well, like TJ wrote the declaration,
they would have they would show you the declaration, and
then they had like all of these exhibits of like

(01:18:36):
the house in Philadelphia where he was sitting and doing
a lot of his work and stuff. And he brought
his enslaved people with him for that, you know, Sally
and them, and there was well, she was there, she
helped write She maybe wrote half of that, who knows,
but there, you know, it was it was more interactive
and I found it much more engaging than just reading

(01:18:58):
about it right in a textbook. So but anyway, okay,
so you took the test and then then what ultimately
ends up happening, then there's.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
A naturalization process. Mine was like, it's just like a
ceremony because they'll prove it for you and then you'll
get your naturalization document. So you turn in your Green
card and then you get your which is the same
number as well too. They just it's just now you're
an American citizen. There comes your passport number. I'm pretty
sure it's my passport number, but yeah, you go through

(01:19:29):
the process. Mine was very weird because I did this
the week after January sixth, Yeah, it was the next Wednesday.

Speaker 1 (01:19:38):
Man. I was like, no one believes in this oath
of allegiance.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
And I'm signing up. All these people in here are
saying an allegiance. It's actually very it's it's one of
the more crazier things I've been a part of because
I obviously I'm a part of it, like, but I
also felt somewhat removed from it because I felt American
in this sense, but I also being part of it
and like going through, Oh, we are all doing this

(01:20:04):
as a ceremony to actually like become part of a nation.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
And it's it's a it's very it's it's a unique thing.

Speaker 1 (01:20:14):
It is there's any places that have something like something
like this.

Speaker 2 (01:20:17):
It's a very And it was just all walks of
life that were in there and people. People were really excited.
And I have a big sharpye signature on mine, which
I'm very thankful for. So whenever they try to take
it away, I'm like, you gave this to me, sir. Yeah, right,
all right, look here I have his signature on it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:32):
But but like one of the things that I everybody
I know who's gone through this, one of the things
that they like to highlight is everybody in there is
making an active choice. Yes that you know, I didn't
choose to be an American citizen. I was born in
Duck Capital. That's what the DC stands for in Washington,

(01:20:54):
d C. And I just I was born here.

Speaker 2 (01:20:58):
And so then, and I want to greatest amendments ever
put on a grease was the fourteenth and that the
greatest words probably ever written on paper.

Speaker 1 (01:21:07):
I'm just a US citizen because I was born here.
I didn't have to make an active choice. I didn't
have to pass any tests. I didn't have to do shit,
and I happened to have embraced it. Right. I like
being an American citizen, and I like, uh, you know,
being a Washingtonian, and I like my sports teams and
all of that kind of stuff, and I like mumbo sauce,
and you know, it's like that that part of it

(01:21:27):
that that worked for me. But I don't have to
make that active choice. Whereas you you didn't have to
do that either. You could have stayed LPR if you
wanted to. I did.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
I did think about that after the actions that happened
the week prior. It was very jarring to be like, wait,
hold on, what am I signing up for?

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
Well, because you had to give up your other one, right, No,
I still have my British. I still have my British.
I'm I'm a dual citizen.

Speaker 2 (01:21:52):
But even then it's just kind of like a but then,
but then I think, I think a lot of people
in the room also pay my money, so then I'm
not getting my money back, so I better go through
this anyways. But also it's like if you believe in
the democracy, right, the smaller democracy, like all right, let
me because I couldn't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
Vote, right right, Yeah, yeah, those are that that's a
huge thing. For years, you've repaxation without representation.

Speaker 2 (01:22:19):
Yeah, for for years, since I was a child, since
I came to this country, I've never been able to
vote in since being a voting age, yeah, I haven't
been able to vote. So yeah, that's important. And yet,
like I think in they I think that this can
be overblown at times, but I do find like the
immigrants who come to migrate to the United States they.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
Believe in a lot of those words.

Speaker 2 (01:22:43):
In the Constitution, in the Declaration of Independence, Like there's
a belief in that, and it's only the only way
those words are true is by the participation in the
dictrial democracy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:55):
Right, you have to that. So all of this is
to say, here is this thing that happened in a
lot of places, but we're gonna spotlight in Boston. Okay,
Fanuel Hall, you may know this place. It's pretty famous.
It's where the Sons of Liberty used to meet and
where like Paul Revere was riding to to tell everybody

(01:23:19):
about the British were coming and all of that stuff,
and like this is kind of the birthplace of the
American Revolution and which is a great documentary on PBS
right now. Yeah, absolutely, while PBS still exists. So one
of the things that the Immigration Service does is sometimes

(01:23:40):
they do these ceremonies and kind of important places or
historic places, or they they'll have dignitaries, you know, often
like governors or county commissioners.

Speaker 2 (01:23:50):
Or mine was scheduled for ja Mine was scheduled for July.
I thought I was gonna get the July fourth one,
to be honest, But then COVID happened.

Speaker 1 (01:23:57):
But so, like you know, some times it's the president.
Sometimes it's senators you know, who do the swearing in,
and and it's they make a big deal about it.
So here we have an example where at this historic place,
there were a bunch of people who had already gone
through the whole process and they were on their way

(01:24:19):
to go take the oath where they swear in and
say they're gonna be American citizens. All of these people
had already had that document switch that you were talking about, right,
so they were already on paper American citizens. They just
hadn't taken their oath of allegiance yet, and they were

(01:24:39):
gonna they were gonna go there. They were gonna do
their swearing in, and then they're gonna get a photo,
you know them, get the thing and smiling, and they're
gonna put it on their wall, and it's gonna be
a big deal and they're gonna remember it forever and
they're gonna talk to their grandkids about it. So here's
an example. This is a woman. She's from Haiti, like you,
she had been here for a really long time. She'd
been here since early two thousands. She had a job

(01:25:00):
she was, you know, at a green card. She was
basically American at this point, right, and just working in
all of this stuff. And she showed up to do
her oath again because she's a true believer in the
United States and everything that they represent, that the country represents.
And as she's in line to go into the building,
Ice shows up and plucks her out of line because

(01:25:25):
she's from one of those shithole countries. And they did
this all over the country. They use uses, which is
the the immigration US Citizen and Immigration Services uses. Right.
Their job is the paperwork. They're the naturalization guys. They're
not the ICE guys. They're not customs in border. Their

(01:25:47):
job is to make citizens and green card holders and whatever.
They played ball with Ice. They're part of the same
organization and basically told Ice where all of the people
who were who were born in these other countries in
these there was a particular list of countries. You're gonna

(01:26:08):
notice something interesting about them. And they told them where
all of these people were going to be to do
their naturalization, because of course they were the ones who
set the appointments, and then none of them got to
do their oath, and maybe some of them are going
to get deported even though they've gone through the whole
process and been vetted and been granted citizenship. You want

(01:26:33):
to know the list? You ready see if you can
spot something about this list again? Oh? Sorry, you want
to guess? Go ahead? Yes, yes, a few And you
just said Afghanistani?

Speaker 2 (01:26:47):
Yes obviously, Haiti, I think you're gonna go with, uh,
we're in Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:26:55):
They're not letting people. There's some obvious easy answers of
like these trees are always on the ship list. What
like North Korea? Something like that? Oh no, interesting, little
rocketman his buddies.

Speaker 3 (01:27:10):
Buddies from Okay, yeah, where else are we letting people
in from?

Speaker 1 (01:27:14):
Not letting people in from?

Speaker 12 (01:27:15):
Not?

Speaker 1 (01:27:15):
What are we not? Who are we? Always think we're
at war with we are about to be at war
with China? No Chinese? Yeah, of course, money, Yeah ship
Iran's got to be on the Iran for sure.

Speaker 11 (01:27:36):
M hm.

Speaker 1 (01:27:38):
You have another long time US enemy, long time yeah,
m hmm. I'm letting folks in from unless they play baseball.
Oh god, Cuba, yep, of course.

Speaker 3 (01:27:53):
Okay, of course, Oh yeah, of course it's Cuba's on there.

Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Yep. It's like December. Any random like on there or something.
There are some randoms and then there's there's a third
one that's like another longtime US boogeyman, although it's telling
my age that this is a place that like sort
of represents the bad, bad guy world. But I'll give

(01:28:19):
you give you a hint. Kadafi oh uh Libya Yeah yeah,
So like the big ones obviously Iran, Libya, Cuba, Haiti,
those are like never Americans never gonna let them in.
But well we did let Cubans in at one point,
only if they get one foot on and we're white,

(01:28:41):
yeah yeah, or have intel uh okay, so then yeah,
so Afghanistan, we've got me and mar Slash Burmah Chad.
I don't know, there's a lot of people coming here
from Chad. But ye, why we why are we? Like, no,
we don't want these chations around Congo. That was one

(01:29:05):
of the wars that he solved. That apparently is not
because the N twenty three took an entire city yesterday,
so you know that's well, FIFA fixed it. Let's see.
Equatorial Guinea asked Trump to find that on a map
Eritrea that's sort of also along, which then dovetails with.

(01:29:27):
That's an interesting one because I feel like there was
a time where we were, yeah, we were taking a
lot of Eritreans when they were letting us build a
base there and fighting the FOGA. And right, so Horn
of Africa is well represented here. We've got Eritrea, We've
got Somalia, We've got Sudan and Yemen, which is right
off the coast there across, so let's call that part

(01:29:48):
of the group.

Speaker 18 (01:29:49):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:29:49):
And then there's also Burundi, which again is part of
the things that Trump claims to have solved, hasn't hasn't solved. Cuba, Laos,
a lot of Laotan immigrants coming here. I don't may.
I don't think I actually know anybody from Laos. I
don't know Sierra Leone. I know a lot of Sierra

(01:30:12):
Leone Americans people who are from there who live here now,
who are citizens, a lot of them.

Speaker 12 (01:30:20):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:20):
And I would be really upset if they were not here.
So thank goodness most of them are here. But okay,
Togo m hm. So remember our friend Jack, Yeah, yeah,
thank goodness, he's already here, but his cousin's not coming.

Speaker 12 (01:30:38):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:30:38):
And then we're gonna round it out with Turkmenistan and
of course our new favorite target, Venezuela. Of course, of
course we don't want to. This is despicable, to be honest.
I mean it's well, the damage this could do to
the major leagues. You're not letting anybody from Guba or
Venezuela or or I mean that's bad for baseball, man. Yeah,

(01:30:59):
we need Venezuela and ballplayers.

Speaker 2 (01:31:02):
I just how demoralizing is that to go? I mean,
because it is a process, and then you're there to
take that oath of the leaf.

Speaker 1 (01:31:08):
It just set up. Man, they went through this whole
thing to become Americans. They're on the radar loudly here
I am. You know, there's all this there've You've given
them so much information, like all of this bullshit about
people are like, well, my ancestors came here the right way.

(01:31:28):
Why can't they do it the right way? This is
the most right way to do it. And then they
got pinched in line to get their stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:31:36):
No, I mean, I'm thankful that I did this when
I did. Yeah, because I mean, I mean, it could
that could easily be me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
It could easily and then I'd have to go through
the co host process again. And that is a pain
in the pain and the ass.

Speaker 2 (01:31:54):
Then not doing that, I'm pretty sure my government name
probably masked me.

Speaker 1 (01:31:59):
If I got fire far enough that people were confused
when I got there the hell yeah yeah, yeah, that's true.
Well on paper, on paper, I could confuse a lot
of people. Well, and then in real life the way
you look and sound also that going on. Everything about
you is an enigma. Tez, that's a sad story. That's

(01:32:22):
a really I don't know. I Well, we have some
happy news to turn this around, Okay, Yes, friend of
the show, one of our favorite people to watch in Congress,
Jasmine Crockett, announced that she is running for Senate in Texas.
All of this is because Colin already dropped out, so

(01:32:44):
he's not running.

Speaker 2 (01:32:45):
Uh and I guess this also could be part of
the redistricting as well too, right, because she was.

Speaker 1 (01:32:51):
Well, it's the Senate, so her district was probably not
going to be affected. I mean it would have been,
but she would have still won one because they couldn't
draw all the Democrats out. But there is this thing. Okay,
So the Republicans are having a primary for the Senate
seat right now, which is mostly between John Cornyn who's

(01:33:11):
the incumbent, and Kenny Patson, who is the felon I'm sorry, challenger. Challenger,
he is also a felon. He's committed securities fraud, also abuse,
his staff, cheated on his wife, she divorced him. She's
a state senator. By the way, he's been impeached, but
then he survived the impeachment hearing and then he put

(01:33:34):
out a hit on several of the or like state
representatives in Texas that voted to impeach him, but they
were unsuccessful because everybody in Texas is heavily armed, so
that just didn't work. So Jasmine Crockett is running. She
is a congresswoman. Before that, she was I think a
district attorney. She's a lawyer by trade. That's her actual thing.

(01:33:56):
That's why she's so good at like getting people to
slip up and say the wrong thing that she's She's
really good at that. But this has this sort of
like weird twist on it. There's also another person running,
which is James Tallerico, who is a state assemblyman and
he is pretty popular too. So the Republicans have really
gotten heavy into backing Crockett because they want a fracturess

(01:34:21):
Democratic primary the way their primary is going, And you know,
I'm not sure I know a lot of daylight policy
wise between the two Democrats in this case, and I
don't think it really makes any difference as long as
they everybody agrees to like support the other one if
they lose. I mean, Crockett, though, is a proven fundraiser

(01:34:42):
that I don't know, that's the thing. She was going
to send her money like crazy. Yeah, and she's got
a huge national profile, so she's probably going to get
the national support, which which is fine. I mean all
I mean her ad to add.

Speaker 2 (01:34:55):
That I've seen was was what that was for the
national audience? Is yeah, that one was for But like, yeah,
I I this is gonna be an interesting race. I
would do you think she can win if she wins
the primary? Do you think she can beat either Cornin
or Paxton? If that would be tough? It would be
an upset of the year when I won in Texas. Yeah, yeah,

(01:35:18):
I wouldn't. I mean, yeah, it doesn't make it doesn't
sound it doesn't even sound plausible.

Speaker 1 (01:35:23):
But I think are there enough Katrina refugees in Houston? Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:35:27):
I was gonna say, is there a strategy of the.

Speaker 2 (01:35:32):
New residents of Texas that have flooded in there over
the last like five six years.

Speaker 1 (01:35:37):
Oh god, sorry, that's not good. That's not good. And
typically the new black residents. Yeah, I mean, I don't
think the numbers would still match up. Though. To get
over the line, she's gonna need to get a lot
of a lot of white Texans right to do this.
If Cornyan wins the primary on their side, that may

(01:35:59):
supp press enough. If you know, Trump has been pretty
pro packed and explicitly. If he gets mad enough at
Corning and tells people to stay home, he can shoot
himself in the foot here and give Crockett a chance.
I think it's a long shot. It's a longer, be honest,
I all got better. Couldn't do it, Meta, couldn't do it.

(01:36:20):
But I just just I'm excited that this is like,
it's just a.

Speaker 2 (01:36:26):
Different approach because her approach is different than a lot
of the rest of the Democrats.

Speaker 1 (01:36:32):
And her approach is the thing that we've talked about
on the show that we kind of really need, is
that we need somebody who's aggressive and calls them by
you know, calls them by their name, and and and
is not afraid. It is a fighter. And it's not
like not that there is a big policy difference again
between Crockett and any of the rest of the mainstream
Democratic Party. It's just the way that she conducts it. Yeah,

(01:36:54):
you know that she she sets those verbal traps and
waits for somebody. And I just can't wait for the
bumper stickers about beach fond bad butch body whatever, and like,
you know how much money she can raise off of that?
And and maybe this is a cash move, right, we

(01:37:15):
get we get Crockett running, people donate to her, she's
gonna lose, we can we can redirect that money to
other races where somebody can win. Uh, you know who knows.
But we'll see strong politician. I mean she's strong at everything. Yeah. Yeah,
I love the videos watching her and Committee is just

(01:37:36):
some of the best. Yeah, it's made for for for
phone video and it's just great. Absolutely. Okay, do you
want to just do the Miami stuff and then we
can do the clip game? All right? So since you're
nominally Cuban, that makes you an expert on Miami, which

(01:37:58):
I do.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Listen, I listened to it. He's an amount of Miami. Yeah,
A lot of the a lot of that, a lot
of South Florida, Florida. I love Billy Corbyn. He's one
of my favorite people out down there.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
So South Florida talk radio is some of the most
incredible stuff you could ever listen to. And I will
tell you South Florida Spanish language radio, off the chain,
is wild.

Speaker 2 (01:38:23):
They get away because no one knows what the hell's
going on, nobody else what they're saying.

Speaker 1 (01:38:26):
They get away with murder. I don't think I have
ever heard a more racist environment than South Florida Spanish
language talk radio. And I'm going to qualify that by
saying I have personally spoken to the klansmen who shot

(01:38:51):
up the JCC in Kansas City before he did that
several times. I had his I have his phone number.
He's dead now, but but I had his phone number
and I had lots of conversations with him because I
thought it was funny. And then it turns out that
was maybe not funny, maybe not, but even that is

(01:39:13):
not as racist and crazy as South Florida Spanish language
radio is a wild place. Okay. Anyway, what happened in
Miami got democrat mayor yeah and a woman Yeah, and
she's she's white. Yeah, that's none of the things. Miami

(01:39:36):
is a majority Latino city, or I should say majority
immigrant city. Fifty seven what is called majority minority, Well,
fifty seven percent of the population of Miami was not
born in the United States, let's let's say that. But yeah,
and they mostly elect Republican men of of Latin descent.

(01:39:58):
That's that is who they have elected for twenty eight
years in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:40:02):
And and always Mardern corruption and right, and then of
course like wildly corrupt and everyone runs on an anti
corruption campus and city commission down there in is insane. Actually,
if you ever watched any of their like, it's insane.
So that there's a lot of whether it's the Joe
Carros and all the what is it?

Speaker 1 (01:40:23):
Uh, what's my other?

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
What's the other guy is down there?

Speaker 1 (01:40:28):
God?

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Who ran for president.

Speaker 1 (01:40:32):
sUAS?

Speaker 9 (01:40:33):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:40:34):
Yeah, yeah, this is There are.

Speaker 2 (01:40:37):
Characters in Miami in southwest, Yeah, there are characters there.

Speaker 1 (01:40:42):
So one of them who was Miami Dade County uh
uh or no, I'm sorry, City of Miami, uh city
commissioner was was this Eileen Higgins? And she won and
and she didn't win by a little bit. She had
a lot. She won fifty nine percent, and who uh

(01:41:05):
to fifty nine to forty one. That's a whoopan. That's
a qualified whoopan. And Miami hasn't had a Democrat in
a generation, and they haven't had a woman ever, and
that she won by that kind of margin. It was
a nationalized campaign, as many things are now becoming. But

(01:41:27):
add that to Spamberger absolutely cleaning uh sears clock Uh.
Add that to Mikey Cheryl in New Jersey. Add that
to Democratic gains in all of these other special elections,
the statewide races in Virginia. Of course, there's the beginning
of a blue wave. We have to figure out how

(01:41:49):
to not fuck it up.

Speaker 3 (01:41:51):
I mean, well, there's two things there, right from Billy Corby.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
He always says he's like the Miami of today is
the America of tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
So maybe that's a good thing. Maybe maybe we're finally
shifting the different way. But to your point, right, uh,
the what is it? The Democrats never missed opportunity, to
miss opportunity, right, So I don't know, we'll.

Speaker 1 (01:42:14):
See snatch defeat from the jaws of victory every time.

Speaker 19 (01:42:19):
Every time.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
I don't know, it just doesn't seem to be so
I don't know, but yeah, this was this is big.

Speaker 1 (01:42:25):
It's big. The only way to keep this from getting
uh from from screwing it up is to find a
way to distract Chuck Schumer for the next six years
and just like, hey, go check that out over there
and there's what and then he just disappears and doesn't
do anything. Chuck Schumer is bad for elections. Yeah for us? Yeah. Okay,

(01:42:50):
let's also talk about Miami. Now, this is another little
bit of Miami. As you you may know, there's a
professional sports team masquerading as a university called h Thug You.
I think that's called no at the University of Miami.

Speaker 3 (01:43:01):
Miami that that's my college football team this year that
I picked.

Speaker 1 (01:43:06):
What's their thing?

Speaker 12 (01:43:07):
They do?

Speaker 1 (01:43:07):
Like this right? They do the youth that aper football?
Uh field goal they do it with their hands. Yeah.
So Miami UH is is a school. They play in
the ACC, which is a conference. Uh. Notre Dame is
also a school. They do not play in the ACC
or any conference because they think they're special and they

(01:43:31):
have this deal with NBC that pays them for all
their games so they don't need to play in a
conference because they have an unlimited amount of money. Uh So,
the thing that matters here we can talk about these
other schools, but I would rather not, is that Notre
Dame played Miami week one week one week one. Now,

(01:43:53):
traditionally schools did have conference affiliation play. They're out of
conference games, most of them the first three weeks of
the season. Occasionally there's somewhere they have to do it
in the middle of the season to make the schedule
work or whatever. SEC is kind of notorious for that.
But like, you play your out of conference games early.

(01:44:15):
And there's two schools of thought on this. One is
you play Tomato Cans so you can just tune up
and you treat it like a preseason because you're just
gonna beat the shit out of these guys, and they're
happy to let you do it because they get to
be on TV and get paid. And then the other
school thought is now that strength the schedule matters so
much into getting into the playoffs. Is you want to
schedule a big out of conference game against a big

(01:44:37):
another big team that is also in a big conference,
because if you win, then it really looks good for
your strength to schedule come playoff time. So in Michigan's case, right,
we played Oklahoma this year we lost, But the reason
you do that, Yeah, yeah, last year we played Texas,
who were playing in our bowl game this year in
the Citrus Bowl, which now is going to get a

(01:44:58):
lot more complicated. But we're all injured anyway, it's probably
not gonna matter. And Arch sucks, so I guess we
get to watch him suck against us and our sucks defense. Wink, sucks.
I hate everything about what's happening in ann Arbor right now.

Speaker 15 (01:45:13):
So, like.

Speaker 1 (01:45:15):
That's one school of thought. Notre Dame. They're not in
a conference, so they get to make their own schedule
all the time and make their schnell say that, Yeah,
they make a cupcake schedule for themselves all the time.
They they never play anybody hard, so this like one
opportunity for them to play against a good team. Miami,

(01:45:36):
who had a great year last year, did well in
the transfer portal, was was odds on to win the
ACC and looked really good when yeah Miami beat him,
and and they beat him badly and then went undefeated
for a good chunk of the season before they finally lost.
And like so then Notre Dame went undefeated for the

(01:45:57):
rest of the season after that loss because they played nobody, nobody,
They didn't play anybody hard. They didn't even play any
of their traditional rivals, and they just like cruised through.
So when we got to the playoff selection, right, there's
the automatic bids from the conference wins, the conference champions,

(01:46:17):
and then there's the at large bids. You got to
make this up, and Notre Dame missed the cut, JMU
and Tulane made the cut, right, and everybody says, of
course that this was all about Alabama, who had several
losses and got blown out in their conference final, making
a spot for them. But you'll notice look up there
on that bracket, Brian put it back up there, number ten.

(01:46:40):
Who's that It's Miami. That's Miami they're in. Yeah, you
know that should be not your Dame, right, because Miami
beat them. And to make sure that everybody knew that,
the ACC network played that game in a rerun on
repeat for almost twenty four hours in a row.

Speaker 2 (01:47:00):
Was an offensive that the Miami supporters, the boosters and
all of them went on because everybody, I thought that
Miami was not gonna make it. I thought they were
gonna get I mean, especially with the movement of Alabama
there right because Alabama is probably the team that shouldn't
be there.

Speaker 1 (01:47:18):
So Miami made a good case that the two winners
of the a C or the two the conference finals
of the a SEC, Virginia and Duke. Duke had Duke
one one, Duke had like five losses. There was no
reason to have Duke in the in the playoff as
an automatic big you should pick the team that had
the better record out of that conference. And that was

(01:47:39):
a good argument. Nobody wants to watch Duke play football, No,
I mean, they may as well want to watch American
play football. Nobody wants to watch that that that that
is not I have an issue with that. Brian watches job. Yeah,

(01:48:01):
I thought they just played frisbee or whatever that American
they played basketball, leave them alone. They have girls rugby.
I know that.

Speaker 2 (01:48:11):
Uh you know, you know, I mean there's I mean,
number one, the playoff system hasn't solved the issues.

Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
That we've had. Still the same problem name ship.

Speaker 2 (01:48:22):
That we had with THO BCS. And then I mean
obviously now it's come to light with the deal Notre
Dame has around, Like if they win. What is it
if they're if they're with twelve games.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
If they finished, if they finished twelve games there, no
matter what, no matter what, that's the deal that they
made because they're not in the conference, so they didn't
get in and in they then they made this crazy announcement.
They're like, well, we're not going to play a Bowl
game either. Fuck you guys. It's so sour grapes and like,

(01:48:55):
oh well, I'm taking my ball and going home. I've
heard so many people trying to make these arguments about
how the Bowl system is dead and and and like
why would they do a Bowl And none of their
players who are any good are gonna want to play
because they're all trying to protect it so they don't
get you know, hurt before they get drafted, and blah
blah blah. That's stupid. Okay, the playoff is for like

(01:49:16):
twelve teams. The Bowl system as it expanded, leaves half
the kids winners. It's a good system. Yeah, it's flush
with money. Some of these little schools all meant for TV. Right.
It gives us as saying yoff is only for TV,
and it is that, But the Bowl system puts lots

(01:49:38):
of TV and I get to watch it and I
love it and it's fun. And like some of these
little schools that get to play in these bulls, this
is the kids there are only chance to go on
a big trip, you know, maybe to go to Hawaii
or go to Florida or go to some place that
they would never get to go to otherwise. They get

(01:49:58):
treated like rock stars. They get to half of them
get to win. That's how football works.

Speaker 9 (01:50:03):
Half of the.

Speaker 1 (01:50:04):
Teams have to win, and like and they get to
be on TV. They get the showcase every once in
a while. It changes somebody's career. But also these schools
that that's their cash infusion for the year, right, They're
not they're not in a big conference. They're not gonna
get a lot of TV money. Otherwise, this is their chance.
Why take that away? And then Notre Dame to be like,
oh well, we're not getting our special cookie. We're like,

(01:50:24):
fuck you, guys, man, you're not that special. You're just
not getting a conference like everybody else. If you can
win their way through a conference, you can get in
a fucking join the MAC.

Speaker 9 (01:50:36):
I don't care y pussy, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:50:41):
Soft. Notre Dame is soft, all right, let's finish out
the sports stuff. We'll do the fun thing first, which is, uh,
Pete Alonzo, Polar Bear has made Polar Bear is coming
to Baltimore.

Speaker 6 (01:50:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:50:58):
Man, that was a shocker. I'm not mad about it.

Speaker 12 (01:51:02):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
I mean, I knew he wasn't coming to the Nationals,
but I was taken him there. I'm not mad about it.
That lineups right now. I would even mad with Pete Alonso.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
As much as I hate him as a fucking men,
I don't I respect him as a baseball player.

Speaker 1 (01:51:19):
Because the thing is, this is a big money slugger
and it smells of Albert Bell and and like you know,
I think he is different, but this is different. This
is somebody who is and even when he can't play
first or whatever anymore, you can d h him and
switch him off with Rutch and and that's yeah. I
love it. I and I think it makes room to

(01:51:41):
trade Rush, to be honest, but I would not like that.
I want to keep him. But I saw that uh
Seeddi Mullens was back out on on the market, uh too,
So maybe we can get him to come back. I
know nobody else wants. He's going to Tampa. Yeah, but
I don't know there's room. I want to back. I

(01:52:02):
need that glove and center. Man, there's nobody like that.
I don't care that he doesn't hit all the time.
Sometimes you make a play for defense, you know, I mean,
it does exist. And Gunner's playing on the World Baseball
Classic team for US, but he's playing third, so like
you know, you make your choices. It all it all
works out. But hey, it's great. It's a good day

(01:52:23):
to be an Orioles fan. It's a good week to
be an Orioles fan. It's good big news. You know,
it's clear that all this criticism about oh, well, they're
not gonna spend the money, you know, to really make
the change. They spending the money. That's money spent. That
is money, right, It's not Otani money, but it's not
not Atoni money. That's money. That's money. So thank you
to h H. Mister Rubenstein for opening that checkbook and

(01:52:45):
bringing the polar Bear to Baltimore. And I cannot wait
to see him in orange black, and it's gonna be fantastic.
I'm just thrilled to bits about that, which means that
we now have to do this thing that I don't
want to do. Just talk about Sharon Moore.

Speaker 2 (01:53:04):
And let's we probably stay away from the speculation because
there's a lot of speculation.

Speaker 1 (01:53:09):
Here's the only thing that we know. Ad Ward Manual
fire him for cause said that their investigations showed that
he had inappropriate relationship with a staff staff member that
worked for him. There's all kinds of again speculation about
whether her pay got doubled or all of this other

(01:53:29):
kind of thing. So that was bad, and I was
apoplectic and like, no, we can't be this because this
is the thing that I've been throwing at Michigan State
for all this time, at Meltucker's a creeper.

Speaker 20 (01:53:40):
And four hours later, and then four hours later it
got measurably worse when my phone lit up with a
million messages saying that Sharon Moore had been arrested.

Speaker 1 (01:53:51):
And I was like, for what. And apparently he went
over to the house of this girl of the side piece,
who's not his wife and mother of his children, and
like flipped out. I guess maybe was threatening to kill himself.
I'm not really sure what I mean. Clearly everything's unraveling

(01:54:12):
for this guy, and you know, there's a lot of
stuff flying right. Oh, the investigation got more conclusive after
he lost to Ohio. That's one of the things I heard. Yes,
I heard people saying that, you know, obviously Harbaugh knew
about that. My wife even was like, oh, well, Harbaugh
had to have known about this. He must have been

(01:54:33):
doing this forever. And I was like, I hadn't even
thought of that. But no, don't you dare slander Harball
like he's somehow got out. He's he got out, he's
got out. Yeah, but you know, people are like, how
does it? The theory goes like this, and I don't
think it's wrong. He did it. Now, He didn't just
wake up at thirty nine years old and go, you
know what I should do? I should creep on my staff.

(01:54:55):
He obviously had been doing it, and it required that
everybody around him look the other way, or at least
didn't know about it. And that's the nicest way to
put it. Yeah, which I don't like knowing that. I
don't want to. I don't if you'd asked me where
I was a year ago, Right, I'm like, Okay, we
got this young guy. He's younger than me. It's the

(01:55:17):
first time we've had a head coach who was younger
than me, who is descended of Harbaugh, right, who came
up from that system, was worked with him for years
before he took on that head coach job, had already
beaten Ohio twice. Knew you know, was recruiting well, had
brought Bryce Underwood to the team like so many and
I was like, and he's thirty nine, He's gonna be

(01:55:39):
here forever, and we can be we can be this dynasty.
We've got the ni own money, We've got everything what
we need to do to be this this dynastic powerhouse
of a team. And then this fucking thing, and he can't, Like, guys,
what are you doing?

Speaker 15 (01:56:00):
What sad to say that? Remember several years ago this
happened to the Michigan State head coach.

Speaker 1 (01:56:08):
That's what I'm saying. I was throwing the shade at Meltucker. Right. Remember,
Michigan State had a problem with being creepy because Larry
Nassa and all the other creepy stuff. So they brought
in a consultant to teach the athletic staff how to
not be creepy. And what did Meltucker do, the head
coach of the Spartans, He creeped on her. Yeah, creeped

(01:56:28):
out on them. That's the worst person to do that too.
And he did it by text message too, which is
very obvious and easily recordable. You have fucking moron. And
they bought him out. They didn't fire him. They bought
him out. They paid him eighty five million dollars to
not coach an East Lansing now more. They're not paying

(01:56:49):
him nothing. No, they fired him clean because they had
an investigation that proved it. Now, look, I could go
all conspiracy and they clearly knew he was getting a
mean I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:56:59):
I think they knew there was obviously information that was
floating around that they were like.

Speaker 1 (01:57:04):
Oh, no, we have to end this now. Or yeah,
right because the girl was about to go public with him, Yeah,
you gotta end this, gotta end this now.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
And you ain't beat freaking Ohio state.

Speaker 2 (01:57:17):
So we because if maybe buried it, it would have
buried it, or at the very least he would have
it would have.

Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
It wouldn't have been an immediate fire. It would have
been we have to do it more detailed investigation. Yeah. Now,
the conspiracy, of course that I am working out in
my head is this was a honeypot trap set by
Ryan Day and and fucking Ohio to ruin our lives.
And uh you know, they they they got this this

(01:57:47):
woman to go work there, and they put her up
to it, and they paid her to do it, and
and more, you know, tried to be a gallant, uh
you know, stand up, celibate, nice where up to you
And then then you know he was ultimately ruined by
this vast racist conspiracy to damage the career of a

(01:58:10):
of an upstanding young black man who was going to
take a great institution to victory. That's that's what. Yeah.
I know, as I'm saying it, I realized I sound
but I don't. That's how I feel. I th this, Yeah,

(01:58:32):
you know what a way to end the season. Everything sucks. Yeah,
this is like the most depressing thing. That's what he
was saying. All right, So just to be clear, for
the record, I'm sad about this. I don't have a

(01:58:53):
good answer. I'm not gonna fight it. Everybody's gonna throw
all this ship at me for for you know, this
is happening and me being you know, the ultimate Homer
or whatever. I don't care. I mean, I don't deserve
the derision. That's for sure. I'm I didn't commit this.
You didn't do anything wrong. I didn't do anything wrong,

(01:59:14):
but I feel guilty by association, and I don't like. Yeah, okay,
let's take a break and then do the clip game.
Can I wash this out of my face for a minute.
I'm sure take a quick break. We're gonna do. Yeah,
I'm gonna go, like, try to scramble my brain to

(01:59:36):
be able to do this clip game. All right, we're
gonna take a break. You're listening to Chip Chat on
Beltway Radio and beyond Sweets.

Speaker 21 (01:59:44):
Go Blue Balls, it's Bill.

Speaker 14 (02:00:19):
Is this something nodded?

Speaker 1 (02:00:22):
Jane?

Speaker 14 (02:00:23):
Tackle football, he's afraid to get it.

Speaker 1 (02:00:30):
Go to him.

Speaker 12 (02:00:30):
In basketball, we tried to practice his first game dream
motherfucking times he's shot in the wrong basket. Oh no,
I still love him. That won't ever stop.

Speaker 1 (02:00:51):
I just might love him.

Speaker 12 (02:00:53):
More if he had a.

Speaker 14 (02:00:55):
Jump shot, my son. It's not that sports, myself. It's

(02:01:16):
not sports.

Speaker 1 (02:01:26):
You don't got no on.

Speaker 14 (02:01:30):
It's handles are trash.

Speaker 12 (02:01:34):
Canting my cheese. I'm so fucking nice. Littleman baseball, he

(02:01:57):
can't fall in.

Speaker 14 (02:02:00):
I know he's not good, but I'm still blame the
coach for this ship. He can learn Cordy skinned chess.

Speaker 12 (02:02:11):
Club could be a stock. I'm sure he'll find it
be it just won't be one hundred yards. Oh, I
still love him that ball have a stop. I just
my loving ball if he had a jump shot, my.

Speaker 14 (02:02:38):
Son, it's not that stort, my son, it's not that stores.

Speaker 5 (02:03:07):
All right, welcome back to Chip down here on I'm
your host. Chip with me is test so said that
was dead but also very funny.

Speaker 1 (02:03:20):
Good job, Brian, where'd you go? I'm still gonna blame
the coach. He say, you've gotta He'll find the field,
but not one hundred yards. Yeah, that's a great line.

(02:03:41):
It's a great line. There's a lot of good lines there,
all right, all right, okay, so here we're gonna set
up the clip game here. So each week after we
do the show, right then, our long suffering producer Brian
compiles the clips from the show. And no, he is
not AI, he is a real person, and we post

(02:04:04):
those clips and hopefully all all y'all enjoy them, which
we don't know if you do or not. But what
you don't get to see is the file names on
these clips. And I think, really only I get to
see them as could see them, but of course he doesn't.
And often the name of the file is the funniest

(02:04:25):
thing about this clip, right, So I'll see the file
name and I can sometimes guess what I think it's about,
but usually I can't. And then when I watch the
clip and I connect it to the file name, it
is just comedy gold. Okay. So this is this secret
little headline thing. It's better than the headline you see

(02:04:48):
in the thumbnails, right, because when we post the clips,
they've got a thumbnail headline, and sometimes that's related, but
it's not always the same. So like, this is the
thing that only we get to see, but every year
or so or twice a year, we to celebrate this
and share this with everybody else in a game that
we call the chip clip Game. And the way that
this works is Brian will play us one of these

(02:05:10):
clips and then we have to guess the file name.
Isn't that mostly how that goes, Brian, That's how it works, okay,
And then we, uh, we never get it. I don't
think we've ever gotten it exactly right, No, I don't
think so one of us gets you.

Speaker 15 (02:05:27):
There are times where you kind of did get in
times you don't and I sort of give a pass here.

Speaker 1 (02:05:32):
And yeah, so Brian in his other capacity as the
game master, right, and so we're gonna turn this over
to him, and he is going to quiz us on
our own show. Go ahead, Brian, do your work, all.

Speaker 15 (02:05:48):
Right, ladies and gentle welcome to the return of the
Clip game. Chip has kind of fully explained everything here,
so pretty much we will go to our first first clip.
Let's see what you gotta set this up properly, Yeah,
just like.

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
And there it is. It's an old school one too,
studio Liz Cheney book. Here we go. Yeah, there the
audio and play. It's to talk about this last week.
I just want to be really clear to everybody. It's
gonna happen. It's not gonna happen to happen. It's zero
chances gonna happen. Do you want to bet?

Speaker 2 (02:06:23):
I think these debates are foolish in the sense that
they're not following the tradition.

Speaker 1 (02:06:26):
Well, they have no purpose. Yeah, and it doesn't fall
into whatever the committee is. I forgot the committeeet. Well,
they're all mad about this too. They should be. Yeah,
I mean, because again a mixed out and some of
the ship. I think like no crowds, I think makes sense.
I do think that. I think that makes sense. Cutting
the mics, cutting the mics I think makes sense as

(02:06:47):
well too.

Speaker 2 (02:06:47):
That I think it happens. I think here's here's my
hot take. I think the debate happens. I think Donald
Trump walks off the stage.

Speaker 15 (02:06:56):
Okay, I he walks, He'll hit you'll get the introduction,
he'll say, he'll say probably hi by whatever whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:07:08):
Lo long dieties and killed the mic and he's like
it's enough and he's gonna walk He's gonna walk off.

Speaker 22 (02:07:15):
I guarantee.

Speaker 1 (02:07:17):
Okay, that's why I'm calling. All right, I'm gonna bet
he never the debate never happens and six pack of
something analogous to hop slams whatever. That's the bet. Okay,
you saw it live. Okay. Do we get choices?

Speaker 2 (02:07:37):
No, we have to guess them from brain choices. What
you want to know he wants he wants bloody multiple choice. No,
I'm gonna I'm gonna go with the bet.

Speaker 1 (02:07:51):
Yeah. I think it's uh. I think it's it's uh
master debate or bet or something like. Okay, all right,
here we go. The correct answer is the bet there

(02:08:14):
is no way right off the right on where to go.
I'm bet I was that excited about that.

Speaker 2 (02:08:31):
Was immediately when I was I was like, no, if
I was gonna name this, Yeah, we're talking about debate
the bet.

Speaker 1 (02:08:36):
Yeah, the bet. That's brilliant. Great d look at that.
There you go. I'm slam for you, slam for me.

Speaker 23 (02:08:45):
Yeah, I have seen that. By the way, all right,
we need to call them up. All right, ready for
the next one? Yeah, alright, here we go, Here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:08:58):
Here's this up. I got one and I'm in.

Speaker 12 (02:09:02):
The road.

Speaker 1 (02:09:03):
Chance that the Trump people would are are like vain
but also have a bench of qualified people who understand policy,
government and the mission to run the show, I'd feel
less worried about people like Hegseth in charge of giant
operations like the Defense Department. Like I don't think Rubio

(02:09:25):
is gonna unmake the State Department. No, I don't think
Bondie is gonna unmake d OJ. I think she's gonna
weaponize it, but I don't think she's gonna unmake it.
And I don't think that these people are like hazardous
to the safety of the United States in very many ways.
I think they're they're going to put us further back

(02:09:48):
that we're gonna have to fix it again. But I
don't think they could endangerous. I think somebody like Pete
Hegseth could make some decisions that unless there is a
strong pushback from the rank and file and from the
actual generals that he thinks are maybe not really generals,
could really put somebody in danger. Like he could. He

(02:10:09):
could bomb it, ran out at thin air, and like
start a major war without really understanding what it is
he's doing because he's woefully unqualified. I'm not talking about
a little bit unqualified.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
I think what we don't necessarily always factor in here, though,
is that there's one person running this show, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:10:32):
And whatever he like.

Speaker 24 (02:10:34):
So if Pete does that, it's because it was ordered
from the top, so that I don't think like even
it's But then that's gonna happen no matter who's in
the position, right and unless the person in the position.

Speaker 1 (02:10:50):
I wonder sometimes that I don't.

Speaker 2 (02:10:51):
Think it'll happen in this administration, But the previous administration
had like these career people in it, right, like that
just knew what the institutions were.

Speaker 1 (02:11:00):
We're not gonna like We're.

Speaker 2 (02:11:02):
Not gonna we'll we'll playcate some stuff, but we're not
gonna try to bend and break the institution. I don't
believe that that's the same folks that we're gonna have
coming into this next administration. All right, Okay, that is
the Thursday prior to inauguration. I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty

(02:11:23):
sure based on because you because and I feel like
it's that because you have on Commy's gear and.

Speaker 3 (02:11:30):
We're gearing up for the NFC Championship.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
I think that's probably that is it there? So then
is this something to do?

Speaker 2 (02:11:40):
I almost want to go with inauguration, but uh, I'm
gonna I'm gonna go for for Pete's sake, that's a
good one.

Speaker 1 (02:11:52):
Uh yeah, I'm thinking something like Pickled Pete. Yeah, because
he wasn't Secretary of War yet. I think it's. Yeah,
I'm gonna go uh uh pickled Pete something. That's That's

(02:12:13):
as much as I could guess.

Speaker 15 (02:12:16):
Well, surprisingly enough, it wasn't just about Pickle Pete. It
was pretty much about the whole administration itself, and the
title was counting down the Orange Pipeline.

Speaker 1 (02:12:32):
Wow pretty much. Ever, because the main thing was the
fact that they did.

Speaker 15 (02:12:39):
You guys were talking about how this whole administration was conning.

Speaker 1 (02:12:45):
The people about what their objective was. That's funny though,
Oh man, see this is the kind of stuff that
like I like to get to share because this is
really funny stuff. All right. I didn't get no points
for that either, No one does. All right, here comes
the next one, and we would see a.

Speaker 9 (02:13:05):
Little spot on there we go.

Speaker 1 (02:13:13):
I look so washed out.

Speaker 15 (02:13:14):
And today they had Linda McMahon's uh confirmation, there was
a protester try to yell out something for ex ex exiled.
It's amazing that some of these people that I don't
know where you know, again, we all know that Trump

(02:13:36):
all he does is watch Fox.

Speaker 1 (02:13:37):
News or O A M. And see these people be
on there and and figures like, oh they could do
their job. Yeah, I'll hire them when I'm president. And
it's like, you know, for well, they're not qualified.

Speaker 25 (02:13:50):
His first administration, remember she was the head of the
Small Business Administration.

Speaker 1 (02:13:55):
But the thing is what I'm.

Speaker 15 (02:13:56):
Saying here is it's like again watching the Linda Advance confirmation,
hearing the Republicans questions were so softballed, so lighthearted. I
felt that it's like, dude, you know, everyone knew that
you're gonna just gonna vote in and it's it's it's
it's like it's like you're not even trying to grasp

(02:14:18):
h this is a serious interview. This These are people
who are sitting in positions to where they affect everybody.

Speaker 1 (02:14:25):
I missed those hearings. What were what were the tough
questions being It weren't any real tough question. It was
like one of the questions, well, let's say that again.
I was focused on Linda.

Speaker 15 (02:14:35):
It was like one of the questions was like, are
you willing to stop funding you know of you know,
proper education. Are you willing to you know for uh
a or you know, federal funding for those who abuse
the power and used the money and all that stuff.

Speaker 1 (02:14:51):
And it was like, really is It's it's like it's
more like a yes and no question.

Speaker 15 (02:14:56):
But at the same time, it's kind of like this
this you You've got these questions handed to you out
out of out of a crackerjack box.

Speaker 1 (02:15:05):
Dirty. How dirty is she? I mean what dirty? Yeah?
I mean Linda when Linda the van when I mean,
she's not really dirty. I just felt like she tried
several times to be a senator up in she ran
in Connecticut. Yeah, like I think she tried like three
or four times and lost every time.

Speaker 25 (02:15:25):
She lost, just like everybody else in the Trump administration,
the people have lost elections.

Speaker 15 (02:15:30):
I mean, business wise, I think when she was running
w W F H slash E, I mean she was
a good business owner, you know. I mean she ran
the company very well up to the point where her
husband can do a lot of dirty ship.

Speaker 1 (02:15:45):
But created.

Speaker 15 (02:15:49):
A business minded person and that's it. And I felt
like her going into twitting her into Department of Education. No,
unless you understand.

Speaker 1 (02:15:59):
Sup plexes, and that's it. I just feel like that's
that's her.

Speaker 9 (02:16:06):
Business, all right. I know what I think it is, Okay,
I I know.

Speaker 1 (02:16:20):
McMahon menu, Okay, Okay, that's a good one. Yeah. And
I was thinking something about can you smell what Linda's cooking? Yeah,
I think it's either can you smell with Linda's cooking
or something something like that, or or like suplex education

(02:16:42):
because that that that's funny. But I'm gonna go with
smell what Linda's cooking?

Speaker 15 (02:16:48):
Good answers for both of y'all. But the actual answer
is you're in the wrong business, Linda, Oh.

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
For the stone cold Yeah with gold oh Man, Okay,
we were away off still winning. Yeah, you're still winning.
I winness by just getting the first one. I have
two points. First, Yeah, I'm glad I learned my lighting

(02:17:20):
works because in all of these clips I look as
white as the background behind me. Now I have a motive.

Speaker 15 (02:17:27):
You see the improvement of the lighting here. Yeah, here's
the next one.

Speaker 1 (02:17:32):
Oh, look, we're back to this. The other thing that
I keep I keep thinking about is like the Phase
two thing. If I was Humas, I wouldn't trust it
for an instant. The second they give up the rest
of the hostages. If the Israelis are signed the deal
to to move and be out of Gaza, the second

(02:17:53):
they get their hostages back, they're going to come up
with the reason that the quote unquote deal was broken
and just go right back in and massacre everybody. There
won't be anything. I got that right. I just I
can't see anybody agreeing to that. I just think that
when you got no one else on the table, a

(02:18:15):
lot of things are gonna be left out. This is
the Brian clip show.

Speaker 15 (02:18:21):
This is gonna be another messy process for everybody, even
with the next administration, even the one after it, because again,
like we said before, if the right people are at
the table, this is gonna be word ten cycle.

Speaker 1 (02:18:37):
Yeah. I don't see a way out of this. Certainly
this isn't a way out of it, but it could
at least stop the bloodshed for a little while and
get some aid in there.

Speaker 15 (02:18:46):
That's that's that's I mean right now, that's what the
main thing is. It's like, wait, let's stop this, let's
help with help those who need to be helped. And
you know, again, this is I don't want to say
it's a pr move, you know, but in a way
it kind of is, because you know, this is what
you know, when this whole thing started, everyone's going mad

(02:19:08):
about how Biden wasn't doing anything and all that stuff.
It just feels like to me, it's like this is
an is a real thing. It's a middle it's been
there for there's been their issue for so long, the
US and then trying to be again being the this
old school, you know, be the world police and try

(02:19:30):
to calm it down, and it's just like, look, it
can't calm itself down when it's something where it's like, yeah,
all the people are not involved.

Speaker 1 (02:19:41):
I have no idea. I'm gonna go with.

Speaker 3 (02:19:45):
Cease and deceased.

Speaker 1 (02:19:47):
Ah that's great. That's a good one. Yeah. That means
you got it wrong. So you don't know I I
I don't know. I. Rinton repeat, I know I. Yeah,

(02:20:13):
that's my guess. That's as good as I can. Rinson repeat, Yeah,
he probably got that answer. Yes, you probably got that,
all right. And the answer is who's at the table?
I thought about it having something at the table? Ye, okay,
because Brian kept saying about the table. This is the

(02:20:36):
Brian clips. Brian is playing all the clips of Brian.
I got wait, I wasn't in the first two. He's
so djaying to himself. We are so djaying to ourselves.
They were watching Brian make clips about Brian. All right,
we got any more. Well, this next one doesn't have

(02:20:57):
me in it. You'll like this one. Okay, it's got audio.
There you go, let's start and brought it in. But
there it is. Oh, okay, there you go. You want
to explain this incredible game that you've thought of.

Speaker 2 (02:21:15):
It's the basic game, right, It's it's two lies and
the truth. But we're doing book titles. Read three book titles,
and it was let me know which one you think
is the true book title?

Speaker 1 (02:21:29):
Explain what there is?

Speaker 2 (02:21:32):
And there are you know, some publishers out there like
Bloomsbury that puts out great books, right.

Speaker 1 (02:21:41):
Like that, And we have other ones out.

Speaker 11 (02:21:42):
There, you know, you know, publish some you know sometimes
on the fringe type of books like you know, maybe
The Builder the role of Crown Prince of Saudi Arabia
as a leader in world peace like that?

Speaker 1 (02:21:59):
What was a book like that? That's a real title, right,
I remember this capital. I was ready ready for the game.

Speaker 9 (02:22:09):
Okay, I'm ready.

Speaker 2 (02:22:10):
There we go, all right, we have bad Mond Bannon,
Steve Bannon's travel across Kingston, Jamaica.

Speaker 9 (02:22:20):
All right.

Speaker 2 (02:22:21):
Then Twilight of the Shadow Government, How transparency will kill
the deep State. Our third option here is cash rules
everything around me, a journey from the fringe to the FBI.

Speaker 1 (02:22:41):
Very hiding because he was confirmed today. Okay, I really
want the banned want to exist.

Speaker 19 (02:22:51):
I think it's is it?

Speaker 26 (02:22:52):
The second one is that the one?

Speaker 1 (02:22:55):
Yes, that's there. That's okay.

Speaker 3 (02:23:06):
Let's go on to the round number two here.

Speaker 1 (02:23:09):
This is a great game.

Speaker 2 (02:23:10):
Have flying for Peanuts, Tough Deals, Steve Bargains, and Revolution.

Speaker 1 (02:23:16):
In the Skies. All right, so there's one.

Speaker 2 (02:23:20):
We have coofies and yamakas sell hate stories by Herschel
Walker and Stephen Miller. And we have uh South Africana,
Musk Dutch natural deodoran recipes.

Speaker 7 (02:23:37):
Okay, there are so many good ones here as the
first one, right, the flying for Peanuts has to be
the real one, right.

Speaker 22 (02:23:43):
Okay, elastic, this brilliant.

Speaker 2 (02:23:55):
There's a tricky one here because they're all they're they're
all the same title. So it's just the subtitle here
that we.

Speaker 1 (02:24:01):
Gotta go here, all right, all right, that day in Dallas.

Speaker 3 (02:24:09):
Consentrated me that day in Dallas.

Speaker 1 (02:24:14):
Lee Harvey os Wall did not kill JFK that day
in Dallas. Look at that way he's gone and NBA
stars departure. I don't know the second one, the second one, yes,
there you go, third or three? There you won? You

(02:24:39):
won the inaugural game. Probably anybody from chip chat on
your voice. Oh man, I remember that's thing is by
far one of the funnyest things you've ever written. That's

(02:25:06):
Oh what is this clip called? I know what I
think it's called.

Speaker 3 (02:25:18):
Oh, I'm gonna go with Koopies. I having to go
with Koopies.

Speaker 1 (02:25:26):
I think it's called bad bad Mond Bannon that. I
think it's called Bend Books. Yeah, it's gotta be one
of those two we got.

Speaker 15 (02:25:38):
The actual title is pretty much the title fiction hosted
by Ted title.

Speaker 1 (02:25:46):
It covers too many things. That was such a good
bit though, poor Alison bitch, what the hell? She was
not ready for what you were doing to everybody with
that one. Oh my, I so want the bannoned one

(02:26:07):
to exist. Is it incredible? I also like that that
as I'm watching this, my reaction to the jokes, That's
what I was saying. It was like weird insane, was
just laughing at it at the same time, because it's
just how I'm reacting. That's my reaction to those jokes. Apparently,

(02:26:28):
oh shit, oh god, that's really funny. Well here's maybe
you get another reaction to this next one.

Speaker 15 (02:26:36):
Here you go, and let's owe to him to make
me put up the uh cover art for these clips.

Speaker 1 (02:26:44):
Oh that's right. Yeah. The I can't understand where they're
even getting this from. They think that there are they
believe this stuff that they're you're just running order to
murder blonde women.

Speaker 19 (02:26:56):
And you you also have to understand the example my
you know, I have this segment I used to do
on my channel call Wisdom from Africa.

Speaker 1 (02:27:06):
He's doing more that.

Speaker 19 (02:27:07):
Somebody said farding in the quiet room is always louder. Yeah, right,
that's an African wisdom to remind you that if let's
say you go to butt fuck Nowhere, Texas for example,
because it's the red estate out there, butt fuck Nowhere, Texas,
small town, right, and let's happened that. You know, gord

(02:27:30):
Joe has a son and Gorjo is the only African
in town, and his son is getting picked on by
all these racists. Get right and all of a sudden,
a few years past and he become a teenager, He's like,
fuck this shit, you fuck with me. I'm a punch
of shit at you right now, Kojo just had a

(02:27:53):
felony or have been charged because he lived in a
town where they can charge him as an adult, they
charge him.

Speaker 1 (02:27:59):
Now, the news is not going to be.

Speaker 19 (02:28:02):
Gordeo's parents have served this community, go to church every day.
And you know, this kid, just like every other teenager
after a soccer game or football game, was getting picked
on by this kid, and he reacted, that's not going
to be that. Oh my god, this immigrant I'd taken
over our town. Their kids are those criminal are And

(02:28:23):
then the news, being as volatile as it is, just
boom go there right then the nitpick on these small
little stories that in every time and day never happened.
This is just a repetition, will happen to African Americans?

Speaker 1 (02:28:44):
All right. I love the idea of but fuck nowhere Texas.
That it's not. I want to go with that. I
want it to be that, but it's not that. I
think it's wisdom from Africa. I want to go with
Wizard of Africa's good which check out Hoods for his

(02:29:04):
stuffy He's got more, got great content, great content, and
more wisdom from Africa.

Speaker 2 (02:29:09):
By the way, Jack is, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go,
but Texas, I'm just gonna go with it. It's not
gonna be that, but I'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:29:21):
Go with be. The final name could be all right,
let's see what is it, Brian Survey.

Speaker 15 (02:29:28):
Says, and I'll give this to Chip, So I'll give
it to him.

Speaker 2 (02:29:39):
You've got it, You've gotten on the board. The board
shouldn't be attached two points, so I got the whole thing.

Speaker 1 (02:29:45):
That was some African wisdom with you know, some should Africa.
I get like half a point for that. Yeah, I
like point, so it gets here. No such thing as
halfway points.

Speaker 10 (02:30:04):
Yes today, damn baker, baker, baker.

Speaker 15 (02:30:13):
Not here's the next one and shout out to Doug
his perspective.

Speaker 27 (02:30:22):
Please tell me what the tooth fairy looks like. Please
wake up in the middle of the night when she
took too and how much money she gets, Because I
just I'm serious.

Speaker 1 (02:30:32):
I don't understand why. I'm just speaking for us.

Speaker 27 (02:30:36):
I don't understand why we still vote when no president,
and I mean no president has ever done anything for
us at all.

Speaker 2 (02:30:45):
Don't vote vote general election for the president the specific
thing you're saying, or just in general.

Speaker 1 (02:30:51):
We just not local town whatever share.

Speaker 27 (02:30:55):
Okay, And this is not even trying to be funny,
all right, us vot voting. It's like being with a
woman who doesn't cook, doesn't clean, and doesn't fuck us,
but we hope that she'll do at least one of
the three over the next four years.

Speaker 1 (02:31:12):
Yeah, I mean, I can see how you get that quote.
By no means would I say that that's not a
valid position. That happen.

Speaker 7 (02:31:20):
You know.

Speaker 1 (02:31:21):
The beauty of it is you allowed to do that, President. Yeah,
that's that's Uh, that's it. Man. There's a lot of
choices here. There's a lot of choices. Voting won't clean
your house. Fuck the vote. I'm going with the vote. Yeah,

(02:31:44):
I think yeah, uh, that's probably right. I think I
might have this. I think I think, uh, nah, quit
voting something like that. I mean, it's gonna be the
same thing. I don't know what to say. It's like that, uh,

(02:32:06):
voting doesn't clean or something like that. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:32:12):
Well, the actual retail price of this clip is the
real housewife of the White House. Oh god, because they
don't cook, they don't clean it don't right. I was
on the right track, you were.

Speaker 1 (02:32:29):
That's not a point. No, right track is not a point,
but it was.

Speaker 12 (02:32:35):
It was.

Speaker 1 (02:32:36):
That's funny anyway, Doug's funny. All right, We're still tied. Vote. Yeah,
you get seeing Tessa's face on that clip, he was like,
what the you talking about? Don't vote?

Speaker 9 (02:32:56):
All right?

Speaker 1 (02:32:56):
Yeah. So this is a special immigration rundown. So, as
you know, Trump has decided to attack immigrants, uh, like
his marriages. So in this case, he's attacking brown immigrants,
which he definitely would not characterize his marriages as and

(02:33:20):
one of them. Okay, so you know he's been raiding
all of these He's been sending his ice guys to
to go raid like schools and churches and and hospitals
and like disaster shelters, like places where people are but
they're probably not leaving. It's really uh dystopian.

Speaker 3 (02:33:39):
Not the violent ones that we that he promised everyone
mostly right.

Speaker 1 (02:33:43):
He's deported several hundred people at a time. He's doing
this in the most expensive way possible, sticking them on
military jets that could see but they could hold several
hundred people. He's flying like eighty at a time, you know,
instead of the regularly already scheduled flights like this, the
ones to Columbia. He was like, yeah, we're gonna put

(02:34:04):
eighty guys on a on a C seventeen and fly
them all the way to Columbia. It's like, we had
two flights scheduled this week and we're gonna put two
hundred on each one of those. Can't we just put
them on? And he's like, no, strength, Yeah, we have
to waste money on sticking them in the back of
cargo plane somehow. So it's it's all just like stupid, right, uh.

(02:34:24):
And it's racist as all get out. It's there's no
two ways about this. So and and as we've discussed
on this show, like I have this fantasy of like
trying to provoke Ice to come after me by walking
around being Stryan and just like hoping that they come
after me from all accent. But they're not going to
come after me because of course, even if I wasn't

(02:34:47):
out of a stay Stryan, they're like, I'm looking for you, right,
They're not looking for me.

Speaker 2 (02:34:54):
Yeah, all right, He's probably gonna get this here because
it says I feel like he went to Australian accident.
I feel like I had a good name and now
I don't trust it anymore.

Speaker 1 (02:35:10):
I know what I think it is. Mm hmmm.

Speaker 3 (02:35:13):
I'm gonna go with immigrant cargo.

Speaker 1 (02:35:16):
Yeah, there's there's definitely like a human trafficking joke in
there somewhere, but I think it's uh chipchat crock hunter.
Mm hmm. That's good. That's good. Yeah, that's a good way. Kracky.

Speaker 15 (02:35:30):
Uh, Yes, you're in the area, but unfortunately not in
the right territory.

Speaker 1 (02:35:36):
It is no Aussie ice here I was. You could
have got that. You were close close, Still still st grenades,
all right, still tied, God damn it. Yes, here's much

(02:35:59):
like The Gunners, and it featured my favorite super heroine. Yeah.

Speaker 15 (02:36:06):
So initially Linda is you know, basically was giving her
two cents because mind you, I do follow on Twitter
and she she's so she gave the green thumbs up
to Karen Grissom and Kelly Butler in their respective districts
to be you know, whatever their.

Speaker 1 (02:36:28):
Stuff like that.

Speaker 15 (02:36:30):
The funny thing is everybody was wonderings like, isn't your
sister running and it's like that, Yeah, but no, I
ain't for it.

Speaker 1 (02:36:38):
So she gave no compliance to her own sister, No nothing.

Speaker 15 (02:36:45):
She just does not want her because again she's Linda
Carter is pro choice, she's you know, pretty much per
woman because she's wonderful, wonderful woman. And Pamela Is is
whatever reason when hate hate every all that aspect.

Speaker 1 (02:37:02):
So yeah, he would trap all the women with the
Golden lass. Oh yes, yeah, wait for Lenda to come
and free them.

Speaker 26 (02:37:08):
Agains.

Speaker 1 (02:37:09):
Yes, it's it's funny that this happened. Also in Arizona though,
because it reminds me of Paul Gosar, who is still
a congressman from Arizona, whose family ran campaign ads against him.
His siblings and his mom were like, don't vote for
him when your mom runs a campaign ad against you.

Speaker 9 (02:37:31):
Who.

Speaker 1 (02:37:32):
Yeah. Also, he's a dentist, apparently not a very good one.
He's very twitchy. But so if Linda Carter tells you
to vote for uh these people, are you going to
take her endorsement? Hey, it's wonder woman. Yes, yes, man,

(02:37:56):
Brian loves wonder woman. I love Linda Carter.

Speaker 15 (02:38:00):
I saw her, like I said, like last year, I
saw her at the GW basketball game. And that woman
is still beautiful even in her mid fifty seventies.

Speaker 1 (02:38:10):
I'm sorry, fifty seven pushing eighty. Yeah, it's almost see
doctor Shannon. Brian still with it though, probably So what
do you think? What's the answer the clip? There's something
about that golden last so that that that's the part
that stands out to me. Mmm, wonderful endorsements. Yeah, there

(02:38:39):
you go. That's a good one.

Speaker 7 (02:38:41):
Man.

Speaker 1 (02:38:41):
I like that one. Wrong, I sucked up the bell.
What happened? I hit it too hard? There we go,
there we go. I think stress ball, it's the bell,
golden lasso of no wait, I don't know, yeah, Golden

(02:39:06):
last o something something. No correct answer is listen to
Wonder Woman, don't vote for my sister. Oh because of
the endorsement, I can. Yeah, that's focused too much on
the story, not on the obvious joke about the Golden

(02:39:31):
last So and but you may think this will be funny. Okay,
let's say right here we go. Here's the next one.

Speaker 2 (02:39:40):
Mm hmmm, ah, oh god, this is gonna be fun.

Speaker 1 (02:39:47):
Well, is the abortion issue where the choices are pro
life or pro choice instead of the choices should be
pro choice or anti choice. But somehow those of us
did support access to healthcare are stuck with this word
pro life. I don't like that word. I don't use
that word. I don't used to wear tax cut. I
used to wear tax expenditure because that's what it actually is.

(02:40:09):
It's it is important to get on the message. You
mentioned this real quick.

Speaker 28 (02:40:13):
This is one simple and I'll be quick. Democrats are
literally sitting here having a debate about abortion. They're talking
and this is my big fear. Like I did Miami
thesis on hyperpartisanship. The probably right now, I was not hyperpartisanship.
It's literally that the two parties are yelling past each other,

(02:40:35):
and so like when Republicans use the term abortion, this
is where I'm like, Democrats, you literally should just pick
a new word, because you guys are fighting for basic freedom.
For my sister in law who had a few miscarriages,

(02:40:56):
very conservative Christian girl, those miscarriages are literally technically turned abortion.
And so literally, why are Democrats having this debate about
a word? Literally, change your phraseology, use a different word.
And I think that's what Democrats are just stupid, like

(02:41:18):
change your lexicons. You're not going to win this debate
because Republicans already owned that term, at least to the
evangelical right, which is really powerful and really doesn't know
how to read the Bible.

Speaker 1 (02:41:37):
I wanted to be a board abortions. It's not that,
it's not that it's I wanted to be that um
uh stupid Dems or something like, oh oh I did it,

(02:41:57):
but I think it's stupid Dems.

Speaker 2 (02:42:05):
Stupid is really good. We're talking about abortion. I'm gonna
go with uh, something like new language needed or something
like that. I know it's not that I don't have
anything for this. I don't know, wanting to be a
bord abortions.

Speaker 1 (02:42:26):
But it's not the bord abortion I know. Actually I
use one of the words that he used. I haven't
read the Bible, well illiterate Bible readers, yes, there you go,
but it's lexicon charms. That's funny. See, this is the

(02:42:52):
thing that I want people to get to see. That's funny.
That's funny. But the graphic and every thing. Mm hmm.

Speaker 15 (02:43:02):
So all right, here's the next one. And I and
this is a mystery. Solve this mystery one.

Speaker 1 (02:43:20):
Oh they're muted.

Speaker 29 (02:43:21):
When I first saw and died, I was just like, okay, yeah,
he's ninety five, although he was picking around until the
very end. Like I think, just like six months ago,
someone took a picture of him at a drive through.
Not because not because they were like, oh he's fun.
He's screwing up in it's like dude, Gene Hackmens at
the drusuh but but but yeah, that was just this
is just weird.

Speaker 15 (02:43:41):
And once once he's once I've further read that the
Life of Dog died and I was like, what, okay, God, yea.

Speaker 1 (02:43:51):
The dog in the cage. Did they say that the
dog locked in the cage.

Speaker 22 (02:43:54):
No, dog wasn't locked in a cage.

Speaker 1 (02:43:56):
There were two other dogs that.

Speaker 6 (02:43:58):
Were out that were outside.

Speaker 1 (02:44:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 25 (02:44:01):
So I think that the wife basically like had a
heart attack or something like that, and she was caring
for Jean and the dogs, and then without her there,
they died.

Speaker 1 (02:44:14):
A couple of days later or something. That's my theory
because they didn't make crazy But they said, but how
long I know they said Gene Hackney when they found him.

Speaker 3 (02:44:24):
Was what a week or two weeks?

Speaker 29 (02:44:25):
Like nine days?

Speaker 26 (02:44:26):
I think I think him and his wife had been
had been dead for like nine days.

Speaker 9 (02:44:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:44:31):
So if she died and she was the primary caregiver
for for a ninety five year old guy and a dog,
he couldn't get up and get his own pills, yeah,
or or couldn't get food or couldn't you know, like
who knows what condition he was in the bone blow? Yes,
that's insane, get out of here. Yes, but anyway, Yes,

(02:44:55):
And I was right by the way that uh, the
hack Man, that is true? Did I get it right?
It's the hack Man. I think it's Hackman or hack

(02:45:16):
Man or something like that. But I did get it
right on what what befell uh, mister Gene Hackman.

Speaker 12 (02:45:22):
And like.

Speaker 30 (02:45:24):
The Dog the Wife and Jean Haman, that's something to go.
The Dog, the Wife and Gene Hackman. Okay, final answers,
trying to get closer.

Speaker 1 (02:45:36):
Here you go, final answer.

Speaker 15 (02:45:37):
I will say, I'll give you both a point because
it's pretty much the Gene Hackman's death theory.

Speaker 1 (02:45:46):
Okay, okay, yeah, well now we're still because everyone was
trying to theorize what that happened. I got it right,
so I'll give you I'll give you the points on
that for both the All right, how many more of
these you got, Brian, because you know our producer gets
mad if you go too long. I know. Well that's

(02:46:07):
why I'm in control.

Speaker 15 (02:46:10):
We will get up to what we get to twelve
twenty five, so we got five more minutes, so let's
see if you can break this tie.

Speaker 1 (02:46:16):
So here we go.

Speaker 15 (02:46:17):
This is something you guys might enjoy, and it's for
Tessa's favorite product.

Speaker 1 (02:46:22):
No no, no, the Bone Book. Well now it's the
next level of that. It's that was of course, Brian's
favorite game to play, called Show Weird Alex Jones songs.

Speaker 3 (02:46:39):
TZ Yeah, I was not familiar with this before.

Speaker 1 (02:46:43):
I have you ever swallowed a caveman?

Speaker 31 (02:46:46):
No, no, no, no, both it's actually really good. If
anybody says it's actually really good, it's not.

Speaker 1 (02:46:59):
They wouldn't use that qualifier.

Speaker 32 (02:47:01):
Yeah, so you're swallowing case his words, not mine his words. Okay,
all right, so what is the title for that one?

Speaker 22 (02:47:13):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (02:47:15):
Swallowing? Do you need to give your support for the Uh?

Speaker 2 (02:47:20):
Yes, sorry, yes, because we did just play Alex jones
Sandy Hook Promise as always uh where we do laugh
at a lot of Alex Jones stuff on the show,
So we thought it was only.

Speaker 3 (02:47:31):
Right to go ahead and promote Sandy Hook promise.

Speaker 2 (02:47:35):
Uh nonprofit that is to support of victims of gun
violence after the horrific shooting and Sandy Hook Connecticut that
is killed me more down a bunch of children. And
you know, Alex Jones doesn't think that's that happened. So
that's right, I'm gonna go and it's just.

Speaker 3 (02:47:57):
Easy transition swallowllowing caveman.

Speaker 1 (02:48:02):
I was gonna go with show and test the bone.

Speaker 2 (02:48:05):
Oh god, I just got give so many jokes that
I can just go right there, just poorly phrased things yo,
okay it was yours again. Uh swallow, swallowing caveman.

Speaker 33 (02:48:27):
Okay, showing TT the bone, showing test the bone and
surface says, well, give point to test.

Speaker 3 (02:48:44):
What a graphic? What a graphic?

Speaker 1 (02:48:49):
His face, man, he had the bone, bro like, what
is he on in that bone brow? Look at his
eyes like old team? But good? What over TV? He
was drinking?

Speaker 2 (02:49:07):
Yeah, man, that literally makes me want to throw from
my mouth sweating just even thinking about it.

Speaker 1 (02:49:15):
It came out. It literally makes you want to There's
very few things that make you go to throw, that
makes you want to. I here's the next one. Alright,
it's three to two tens, all right, I need to
see that thing. Yeah, where this will go? So this

(02:49:35):
is where we're gonna play. We're gonna take a break now.
In the last few weeks, Brian has been using this
opportunity to throw something completely inappropriate at us in the break,
which I'm guessing he's gonna do that again. So just
heads up appropriate, Yes, Brian, are you ready to break

(02:49:55):
this one? Lord? Okay, we're gonna take a break. We'll
be right back. You're listening to chit chat on and beyond.

Speaker 13 (02:50:07):
Tack Trump Talk Trump always chickens out, runs faster than
a shadow.

Speaker 12 (02:50:14):
He stop the trees like a chaco made off fluff,
no beans, Josh.

Speaker 6 (02:50:28):
I'm wondering is there any dance classes for those dans?

Speaker 1 (02:50:32):
I want to know how to do that flip your shoulder?
Yeah that? Oh god. So this is where Tess would
say a I and Brian must be stopped. I agree
a ban must be stopped. But I think we're a
I am becoming best friends here. It's it's it's like

(02:50:53):
I said, I've been I've been joining the dark side
for a very long time.

Speaker 3 (02:50:58):
So this is a dark.

Speaker 6 (02:51:02):
Dance moves.

Speaker 1 (02:51:03):
I'm still trying to wonder how he did that owl
body move. I'm just favorite part of the video is
how he like flips his fat body all the way
around and then and also his arms and legs are
disproportionate from each other. Yeah, way to go Ai. Yeah ah,

(02:51:29):
what's this one? Taco boots the heels? Yeah, tacoa Oh
that's good too. By the way, my kids love the
other Taco AI song. They sing it all the time,
the the Taco Taco Taco chickens out. Oh No, they

(02:51:51):
love that one. Uh yeah, I think I think it's
Trump taco dance moves.

Speaker 3 (02:51:56):
I say, taco chacha, taco.

Speaker 1 (02:51:59):
Chat Oh damn. Both they are good. That the actual
correct answer is and I'll give it to Chip with
the spin. So I'll give it to him slightly getting it.
Look at the taco. What's going on? That was the move.

(02:52:22):
It was weird, But look at the taco guys, second
from the left, Yes, what is going on?

Speaker 12 (02:52:31):
What is going on?

Speaker 1 (02:52:35):
Oh my god, what is going on?

Speaker 15 (02:52:40):
You gotta love it, you gotta love ai. All right,
all right, here we go, last one, last one, winner
takes all.

Speaker 1 (02:52:52):
That's picture right now, if I may, Yeah, absolutely so.
Do you get extra points for predicting the nominees in advance?
In a predicting the winners?

Speaker 26 (02:53:01):
We get bragging rights if we get if we if
we're able to say that we predicted the correct best
picture at this point in the race, Yeah, we get.

Speaker 22 (02:53:10):
We get major bragging rights.

Speaker 1 (02:53:11):
Yeah. I think at that point you go down in
history is like the best at this ever. Yeah.

Speaker 26 (02:53:15):
I think some of us have to I think some
of us. I think someone has to buy us a
sub too. But I'm not sure, but I'm not but
I'm not positive about that okay, I'm going ten to
one on this one. Number four, we have Wicked for Good,
the second part of the origin story of Alphabe the
Wicked Witch of the West and Glinda, the Good Witch
of the North, starring Sophia Revia, Cynthia Ribo, Ariana Grande,

(02:53:36):
Jonathan Bailey bow and Yang, Jeff cold Bloom, and Michelle Yo.

Speaker 1 (02:53:41):
Uh and uh. I know Wicked got a lot of
good reviews, but.

Speaker 26 (02:53:46):
Me and most other people who have issues with Wicked
has been the second act of the show, and that's
what this whole movie is. It's the second act, so
we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 12 (02:53:56):
Uh.

Speaker 34 (02:53:57):
Just side note, As somebody who owns several small children
who happened to be little girls, I'm okay with them
not making more Wicked like that.

Speaker 1 (02:54:08):
I could not get this shit to shut up now.
I got K pop Demon Hunters. Oh my god. I
just like, if I never hear one of those songs again,
will be too soon. I am an. I don't care
how Venti Grande is, Like that is enough.

Speaker 26 (02:54:24):
If I have to hear Cynthia or Revo belt one
more time, I'm gonna choke a bitch.

Speaker 1 (02:54:29):
I just it's not that I don't think they're talented.
It's not that I don't think the movie's cool looking
and the you know, the visual aspects of it are
green or whatever. But like that thing was on twenty
four hours a day in my house for like three months,
and I am so tired of that movie. Yeah you
are done with that shit? Yes, yes, I'd rather watch
Mulwana for the nineteen millionth time, or even a couple

(02:54:50):
of times through Frozen than see Christ. Dude, you don't
even know. Oh no, I know. No.

Speaker 26 (02:54:57):
I have a very good friend of mine. His daughter
was into Frozen. She's she's seventeen now, but she was
when when Frozen came out.

Speaker 1 (02:55:05):
Oh man, that was Frozen two and and I mean
just like, little girls are great. I love being a
girl that they are just the light of my life.
But their choice in movies is terrible. I can't wait
to show them that.

Speaker 11 (02:55:23):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:55:25):
For all the marvels Brian put up, I'm losing everywhere.
Brian's fucking Kyle Pitts put up forty five Fantasy points
on me.

Speaker 1 (02:55:32):
Just now, just Christ, not to lose this game too.
It's the playoffs, and Brian's gonna win. He's winning no,
I'm not. You never know it's early. No, that forty
five is great. I haven't got it.

Speaker 15 (02:55:46):
You got Dak in the in the he's facing some
sorry team, the Bikings Minnesteta Vikings.

Speaker 2 (02:55:53):
I'm debating if I'm putting brock Perdy in against Tennessee.
But all right, what the hell is the name of
this clip? I'm gonna go with uh uh, We've gotta
try to win this year.

Speaker 1 (02:56:03):
Yeah, try. I know what it's called. I know what
I think it's called. Anyway, no more wicked songs. I
think it's called Wicked Frozen. Mhmm, it's Wicked Frozen.

Speaker 15 (02:56:23):
Actually, this is about this is this is basically wait, no, no, no,
denty grande.

Speaker 1 (02:56:29):
Oh yeah, joke Yeah, then dent wicked venti grande. You
probably got that, dad.

Speaker 15 (02:56:37):
Well here's what it actually is. So it's popular, but
it's not a popular It is girl Dad's wicked views
on musical movies.

Speaker 1 (02:56:50):
Okay, popular is the song from that movie? Since you
are a girl, dad, Yeah, I do own several children
who happen to be little girls. As I said in
this cliff one, that's a great line. Okay, well, Chip,
you can't win. I won. Yes, you did win. I'll

(02:57:14):
take it. Congratulations. I need a win. Yeah, I give
that one to Sharon Moore. He will, he needs a win.
Poor guy having a tough week of his own name.

Speaker 35 (02:57:31):
Yeah okay, yeah all right, so uh hard week? Uh doctorine.
Make sure you know Dash dot com.

Speaker 1 (02:57:42):
The Dash is for hot flash and they love cash
for all of your menopause needs. Thanks to our radio partners,
I hop, you tep and you kip. Uh. Thanks, yeah funny.
Thanks to n N t N for keeping us on
for another week. Maybe don't know. Thanks thanks to our
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(02:58:04):
always to our family here at Beltweit Radio and RIP
Radio for making us sound as smooth as that nice
sweet Venezuelan oil. All right, where can everybody find you?
On the socials? There to Oh we got a new background,
new background.

Speaker 3 (02:58:18):
Oh this was very fast. If you can find me
on at DC Cortez all right.

Speaker 1 (02:58:23):
You can find me and the show on the Twitter
at rip chip chat or no wait, chipchat or ari.
You can find us our Facebook or Instagram at rip chipchat,
and you can find me joining tes being a flaming
checking on him after soccer games on on Blue Sky
at Chef Chip and you can of course find us
every Thursday night exit not the next three Thursday nights
at nine thirty here on Belwegh Radio and Beyond and

(02:58:45):
of course simon cast on Ripped Radio TV where you
can watch all of our other stuff as well. And
uh yeah, so we won't see everybody till the new year, so.

Speaker 18 (02:58:58):
Bonza holidays, Happy December to everybody, Happy New Year. And
when we see you next we will be starting year
eleven of this show, or in February will be a
year eleven.

Speaker 1 (02:59:12):
So yeah, we're right, we're knocking on the door. Brian
somewhere in the background, thank you for the clip game
game Master. That was fantastic, especially because I won. And
make sure that you remember that test. You'll have to
carry that until next June. I guess when we do
this again, all right, and stay tuned for more clips.
Maybe you'll get clips of us watching our own clips.
It's gonna be great, all right. You can catch us

(02:59:34):
next year on chip that's test Brian somewhere in the back.
You're listening to chip Chat on Beltwegh Radio and Beyond
Street Bowls three hours.

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Test will help you.

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Let's know.

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We made two jokes. We may dream you come.

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Listen to thank you for listening.

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All these kids shift.

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Chat lady, Lady of hosta ho en joyly.

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