How to weaponize autism

We talk to legendary science and engineering educator Chris Boden about how he weaponized his autism to become an internet sensation teaching people about the cool world of science, engineering, and electricity (just to name some of his subjects)

Then we do the headlines, talk election results, stop by the supreme court, and what's going on with the owls?

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:31):
It is nine thirty on a Thursday night, and you
were tuned into Beltway Radio and beyond win ten one
and only thing I heard the belt this is chip Chat.
Welcome to chip Chat, everybody. I'm Chip Who are you? Tesz?

Speaker 2 (00:45):
You just told him, buddy, Hey, I nailed it, finally
got it, finally after weeks. You know, I butchered a
few times. You know it couldn't be back.

Speaker 1 (00:55):
Are you all right on the day, Yeah, I'm fighting
it off. You know that kids give you all this
stuff and.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
I'm a here. Oh man, oh my god. I got
a COVID shot earlier this week, which I think they're
perfect gratulations.

Speaker 1 (01:06):
Yo.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
This lady was she was like, I am so happy,
Like the farmacist, like not even the main person was administered.
They were like, I'm just so happy that you are
just focused on your preventative health. And you know, I
was like, yeah, you know, it's the only while I've
not had the flu in two decades, I've definitely had

(01:30):
COVID like three times.

Speaker 1 (01:31):
So yeah. My my local pharmacist when I got mine
was like mid tirade. I was like, oh, thank thank
you for being here and like making this available and
everything and she's like, let me tell and I was like,
let me hear it, lady, just give me everything. She
she you ever hear a lady in the back of
a CBS cussing and they worked there. Yeah, yeah, yeah

(01:54):
that was her. No, so very exciting, congratulations.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
No side offfects and didn't hurt. I was totally. I
was so, so, you can go play tennis after this
or fight? And I was like, I don't know one
of those.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
Definitely two things do.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
I was like, he was right, yeah, my arm doesn't
really hurt at all. No, I haven't had any side effects.

Speaker 1 (02:14):
So, you know, was one of the side effects suddenly
being able to play tennis. It was crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
It was like I was like, yeah, because you know,
the before they get to sit around fifteen minutes and
he was like, this is you don't have to do it,
like we've perfected this at this point, Like this thing,
this thing is as perfect as it's gonna get at
this point.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
If it took if it took three strokes off your golf.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
Game, yo, that'd be crazy. Then you'd be like, yes, yeah,
this is two shots.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
All right. So yeah, this week we have an amazing guest,
Chris Loden is gonna join us. We're gonna talk to
him about all the cool things that he's doing in
science education and the trades and really everything. So like
a couple of weeks go when Jeff Pearlman was here,
like that was a very test and fish show.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
Yes, and you steamrolle fish just as much as I did.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
I try not to, I was, I was waiting, I behaved.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
There was a few times we should have dropped keep interrupting.

Speaker 1 (03:24):
I did my best. But anyway, Chris Bowden is like
the maximum chip guy, right.

Speaker 2 (03:30):
Yes, yeah, this is your full wheelhouse.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Yeah. I am so excited to get to talk to him.
So that's gonna be just amazing. Also, this week we
have headlines. We of course have the election results of
everything that happened in all of the states, some Supreme
Court stuff that happened. Uh, and we're going to find
out what's going on with these owls, which if you
thought you knew a lot about owls, which I didn't

(03:56):
think anybody I don't know. That's not like one of
the comments we get most often in the in the
in the comment section, like hey, go back to talking
about owls.

Speaker 2 (04:04):
I know you know they have the misnomer that they're
like a very intelligent bird, and I hear that they're
not one of the smarter birds. They're not.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
I know that the crow is like crazy, crazy smart,
exactly an owl.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
But you know they talked about owl and wisdom. Yeah,
zoologists be like, no, that's kind of like it's kind
of odd, not.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Like that's just because owl is the only one in Yeah,
the one hundred acre would they can read? Yeah, that's clear,
clear and and pooh and and piglet depend on him
to read. And then that taught us all that owls
are smart, should be grow, should be bro it should
have been should have been a crow clearly like crows
are also how do we say this vindictive? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:51):
Crow, because that's the smart. That's how smart, smart and
vindictive track sometimes sometimes, Yeah.

Speaker 1 (05:01):
Don't pick a fight with a quervit. Okay. Uh So anyway,
it's gonna be wild. There's a whole lot going on.
Uh if you see the T shirt tonight, you might
know why we're gonna cover that. Don't worry, it's very exciting. Okay, So, uh,
do you have a word?

Speaker 2 (05:18):
Do I have a word? Do I have a word?
You have a word?

Speaker 1 (05:25):
Okay, I've got a word. Got a word, So sit back,
grab some ballants. It's deadly mustard time. You're listening to
the best show, the only show, Tipchat on Beltley Radio
and beyond. All right, welcome back to Chipchat here on

(06:19):
Beltweigh Radio and beyond. I'm youros Chip with me is
tez me up? All right, So now we're going to
get to talk to somebody who's like super way cooler
than we are. Yes, Chris Boden is one of those
people that I love. He's funny, charming and good with words.
But he's also a tradesman like me, which is very cool.
He helps me learn all kinds of cool stuff about

(06:39):
the electrical grid and cool Bit's a kit that he
features in his videos. He's also an educator, working to
build an educational collective and teach people to teach themselves,
which I think is very cool. Chris is somebody that
I've wanted to talk to for a long time, and
it's great to have him here on Chipchat. Chris Boden,
Welcome to Chipchat.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Hither guys. How you doing.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
We are doing great except for how I sound, obviously, but.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
You sound terrible actually to be an audio medium. This
is pretty bad, but it's okay.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
If I sound bad enough, I'm going to end up.
AHHS secretary, don't tell me.

Speaker 3 (07:15):
Thank you for having me on here. It's an honor
to be here, at least at this point. I might
hate you in twenty minutes. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Oh my god, I'm this is every show goes coo.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Yeah. Most of our guests only show up once. I
like it.

Speaker 3 (07:29):
I like how you guys are like, way bigger than
I am. We looked like it before and after picture like,
it's it's great. Him a little fucker down here in
the corner.

Speaker 2 (07:37):
I'm just I'm just.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
Yeah, hi, speaking of what you look like. Uh, we
want to let everybody know, if you are somebody who
watches all of Chris's videos or follows him on social
media and all these places, what you're seeing tonight isn't
what you're used to seeing, right, This isn't this is
the debut.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
This well, it's not the official debut.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
This is.

Speaker 3 (08:00):
The live system. So we broadcast over an atm Isomni,
one of the black Magic things, and I've had it
in the shop for years and it just the dust,
the abuse. Finally, killed it, and we're in the process
of building a new set at a different location, and

(08:25):
the new set isn't ready for prime time yet. And
I have whereas I have a beautiful little link in
three sixty thing that is the webcam, but it's not
set up yet. We just got the new cameras, so
the old NX five's that everybody's used to seeing me on,

(08:46):
like the faded out cameras that we got almost twenty
years ago. Now like it not quite long time. We
got brand new cameras, but they're not set up. Nothing's
ready yet. So I just I grabbed my laptop instead
of the broadcast rig. I'm on my laptop jacked directly
into the camera with a little SSL microphone sitting on

(09:09):
the set. I'm just like, fuck it, let's just go.
It'll work. I don't care.

Speaker 4 (09:14):
We're gonna do it live, do it live, and yes,
like classical life, just improvise, adapt and overcome.

Speaker 5 (09:22):
Man, like.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
I preach it in my videos. You got to do
the best you can with what you have where you are,
and this is what I got. So we're there, so
please just don't mind all the extra technical bullshit. Off
to the sides.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Well, what it looks like is you've made a set
out of your car, and so then we're all just
sort of looking at the side of your car.

Speaker 3 (09:46):
I haven't. I've had people threatening to do it for
a while to do an addition on Wikipedia to call
the black and yellow stripe caution pattern the Bowden pattern
because it's on everything. It's it's it's very much in
my set and all that jazz. But it hasn't happened yet,

(10:07):
but I'm leaning into it, like the whole black male.
It looks really weird on this image because the white
balance isn't set, so this isn't quite accurate, but it's
it's it's good enough for now.

Speaker 1 (10:17):
So we we do have to ask you. I think
what is obviously the obvious question everybody wants to know
is what is going on with the hair?

Speaker 6 (10:26):
Man.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
I know you explained it, but you know something the hair. Yeah, yeah,
you had all these videos where your hair was all.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
I have for a while. I years ago. There is
if you if you look on the channel, there are
over three thousand episodes and only only like six hundred
of them are shorts. So oh, that's the other channel.
That's that's uh, that's Kayota. Good, that's my classroom safe channel.

Speaker 1 (10:55):
Yeah, that's yeah, that's the one that it's okay to
show to people.

Speaker 3 (10:59):
Oh yeah, well you can like whatever. It's all right.
Nobody watches my personal channel, Like that's barely got any
subscribers at all.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Nobody watches either.

Speaker 3 (11:08):
Yeah. But if you if you go back years ago,
for for years and years, I rocked a mohawk, and
it was it was all different colors over the years.
And I'm fucking fifty years old now, so like, my
my hairline is just it's all it's all headed up
and out the ears is how it's decided to go.

(11:29):
And I was like, I had to get a haircut.
I was bored, and I'm very much an experimentalist, so
I was like, well, let's just give it a shot.
And they he screwed it up right when he started.
I went to a barber and there was a little
bit of a miscommunication and he apparently thought a mohawk
was only.

Speaker 1 (11:49):
Like here to hear.

Speaker 3 (11:53):
In the back, and it was all fucked up. I'm like,
you know what, there's two ways to handle it. Either
put on a hat and go to work or just
roll with it. So I just you know what, I
make mistakes too. Shit happens and and it started being
a thing where one of the tropes in my videos

(12:15):
became shit happens wear a hat and and now we
sell hats in the store that say shit happens where
a hat and you can buy that on a hat now,
so it's now like, well, it's grown out as much
as it's going to grow out, like I'm just stuck
with this, but yeah, it's it's back to normal. And
when we go like current episodes, all the new episodes

(12:37):
drop to YouTube first before they go to Facebook and
Instant and all that jazz. Everything drops on Facebook first.
So if you ever, if you're if you're passionately dedicated
to following the current status of my dome, uh, it's
it's on Facebook or it's on YouTube.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
YouTube. Yeah, so we'll link to that in case anybody check.
T hasn't seen any hair on the top of his
head in several decades.

Speaker 2 (13:03):
But that's uh, that's why it's probably would no more
like uh maybe half I did all. I used to
have it down in my back, but you know, bald
work better for me.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
I just hate my hair. That's why I would have
had but okay, So we could talk to you all
day about hair, but we're not gonna And we also
could talk to you forever about how to produce content.
Maybe we can talk to you about that later. You
can give us some pointers, because this is about as
good as we've gotten in the last ten years eleven
years of doing this show, and it's not great. So

(13:34):
but briefly explain to the people who aren't Chris Boden
Officionado's checking out your channel to find out what's going
on with your hair, what kind of videos and things
you mostly make, And I know it's a wide range.

Speaker 3 (13:47):
No, it's truly easy. I got this. If you like
Bill Ny and if you like Deadpool, if you put
those together, that's what I do. I make fundamentally educational
videos with a huge focus on electricity and high voltage

(14:08):
and stuff like that. That's my world. But I get
into a lot of other stuff, anything that interests me,
anything that I'm into. So there's audio stuff, there's physics
and thermodynamics and robotics and lasers and aircraft and all
kinds of fun shit. But I spent twenty five years
working with fundamental primarily kids. I built the national Science Institute.

(14:32):
And I did that for twenty five years, and then
I got into bitcoin and made really bad choices and
went to prison, and I got to go to federal
prison for a minute. Not fun. Don't recommend it. And
when I came out as somebody who had spent their
entire lifetime running a school, Fundamentally, you go to prison

(14:56):
and you'll never work in the nonprofit world again. You're
never going to work around kids again. You're You're done,
You're burned forever. You're never gonna have a sponsor, You're
never gonna have a foundation support Like life as I
knew it was over. So I sat down and thought, oh,
what do I want to do? Is I want to
teach people about science? Well I can't. I can't do
anything for kids. And well that's all right, because parents suck,

(15:17):
So fuck it. What if I just throw away all
the rules and make videos for grown ups and say
whatever I want and do whatever I want and lean
into it and just be the most authentic version of
me I can be and have fun. It's way fucking better,
way fucking better.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
Oh man, So I if I just want, if I
can just say ask you a couple of things like
additionally regarding that. You know, so I I'm an air
conditioning mechanic by trade.

Speaker 3 (15:49):
You're a now track guy.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
Okay, Yeah, I'm a journeyman HVAC guy by trade. And
I have now spent I guess about ten years or
so in facilities management, maybe a little longer than that,
and I sort of specialized in old buildings, a lot
of old central plant boilers and chillers and things like that,
and it's really cool and old stuff, particularly old controls,

(16:15):
are things that I'm like super into. And I don't
know anybody apart from like the people I work with
who are also into that. I never get a chance
to like freak out about that kind of thing today
even was it today? Yeah, it was today, No, yesterday.
I was looking at like some stuff that's the bridge

(16:36):
between the old pneumatics and the very early DDC controls,
and it's not even digital. It's really just like early
solid state dipswitch electrical controls, and then they go back
to like little bellows controlled transducers and with eerie motors
that control the bellows and all this stuff to like

(16:57):
then translate that to pneumatics. And I am just the
right age to have entered the trade when pneumatics were
phasing out and when this stuff was phasing in, and
so I have to speak both of them. And like
that little bit of stuff I love. I can't find
anybody to like rave two about it because every time
I get so excited about it and showing my wife

(17:19):
or my kids and they're like, yeah, yeah whatever.

Speaker 3 (17:21):
That's the thing though, See that's the backbone of my
videos on my personal channel, on the one that you're
probably most cervus. It's where all the shorts come from.
Is it's show and tell for nerds and grown ups.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Yeah right.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
So the thing is when you're in love, you want
to tell the world about it, and this makes you
insufferable for all of your friends. And I'm in love
with science and engineer and just like you had that
nerd moment of like this.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Is so fucking cool, man, like check this out.

Speaker 3 (17:58):
It's got the old stuff and the new stuff, and
it goes from pneumatics to electronic and it's preaching it.
If you think that's cool. If you can communicate what
it is, how it works, what it does, with your
genuine passionate enthusiasm, you're gonna get other people excited about
it too. Even if they don't really understand what it is,

(18:22):
it's your job to help them to understand what it is.
And if you can do that with passion, and if
it's genuine, you can't fucking fake it.

Speaker 2 (18:32):
You got it.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
You gotta genuinely love this shit. And if you don't,
don't make a video about that. Right, Like, there's a
lot of things I don't make videos about. I'm like,
this is my fucking flavor of autism and we're going
to talk about that. And if you like it, cool,
let's let's dig deep. And if you don't change your
fucking channel, there's like forty million people on YouTube. I'm

(18:53):
easy to forget about. Get take that whole idea you
have of well, nobody else would think this is school. Well, shit,
I'll fucking watch that video. I don't know anything about
the world age back.

Speaker 1 (19:06):
I'm watching it.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
I'm checking it out. And one of the foundational things
if you want to be successful in contact creation, absolutely
everybody will tell you find your lane and stay in it.
It's tighter than that. You can't just have a niche.

(19:29):
Find your niche. Mine is science and technology education, and
then find your niche of that niche. I do electrical
and high voltage with engineering with comedy, and that really changed. Like,
there's a lot of guys that come on and play
it straight that make great videos. Okay, Tom Scott is

(19:51):
fucking amazing. Technology connections fucking amazing. And they don't swear,
and they play it straight, and they're very professional, and
they're very good at what they do, and they have
an audience to reflect that. I don't. I don't have
anywhere near their numbers.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
But but you have dick jokes and mom jokes and
that that works.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
I'm that's my thing, and it works for me, and
it doesn't work for everybody, and and it immediately alienates
me forever. Working with kids. But I'm a fucking x con.
You don't want your kids watching my videos. I'm a
bad guy. I'm a fucking Bond villain. I'm a hardcore
super criminal.

Speaker 1 (20:29):
So well, we're going to talk to you about that.
We do have questions about that, but I don't know.
I mean my kids, my oldest in particular, she's nine,
loves taking stuff apart, always wants to come with me
to fix things, works on the cars with me, you know,

(20:51):
does air conditioning with me already and so you know,
maybe my judgment's not great either, but whatever. So, but
I do want to change gears a little bit. Since
you mentioned about flavors of autism. You often talk about
autism and especially inclusion for marginalized folks, including the queer community,

(21:12):
and so can you tell us a bit about that,
and like the motivation behind all all of that stuff.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I'm a weirdo nerd and I am a member of
the kink community, and because of just my history, I
have a lot of weirdo edge of society, freaky friends
right of all different flavors. And I am an ardent,

(21:44):
ferocious supporter of equal rights, not special rights, equal rights.
And I don't care if they're black or white, or
straight or gay or whatever. I don't give a shit.
And that's the point. That's the beauty of our culture.
I don't have to give a fuck. I care that
they're people. That's all that matters to me. And I

(22:09):
don't believe that we should discriminate against anybody based on
who they love or how they choose to do that,
or what they look like, or their melonic content or
who they pray to or whatever the fuck it doesn't
matter to me. I care about what you think, I
care about what you're capable of. I care about what

(22:32):
you do. I'm very big on actin non verba. And
it's that simple. And because I'm the kid that grew
up a nerd in a generation before that was like acceptable,
much less cool like nowadays, like the geek have inherited
the earth. Yeah, but I in my generations, as a

(22:56):
nineties kid, I'm the dude they got stuffed in a
fucking gym locker. So it's it's a very different world now.
But because I grew up like that, because I grew
up in the analog world where the nerds of the
world got beat up. The Internet wasn't a thing when
I was in in junior high. And because of that,
and because of a lot of formative experiences, one of

(23:20):
the first jobs I ever got was as a DJ
in a gay bar. I'm straight, but I got to
be exposed to the culture and I got to to
just get baptized into that whole community. And then I
got tossed into just from being an engineer, I got
tossed into the BDSM community and I was like, Oh,

(23:40):
this is fun. You guys are cool. Yeah, I want
to play. And because I came from the world of
rock climbing and engineering, and one of my buddies came
to me and he's like, you're good with ropes, right,
I'm like.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (23:58):
I had a whole bunch of shit I got to
learn about in a her and I was like, this
is cool. Yeah, more of this, and and it just
grew and and and a year later, I'm building fucking machines.
And because I hang out with all these people on
the edges of society, I get exposed to their world

(24:18):
and and their perspectives. And because I come at this
from my own edge outsider perspective of being a nerd,
I instantly get it. And I'm like, okay, yeah, okay, okay,
you got some weird shit going on, but iron fuck,
let's your your people.

Speaker 1 (24:34):
You're cool, and that works well with us. I mean
we we sort of heavily focus on the equal rights
aspect of of everything. Tes is our nerd.

Speaker 2 (24:45):
I mean like, I'm the like, you're the only one
that claim nerd over here.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Well, okay, I can fix stuff. You read books and
do like I t and ship, you're the real nerd.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
No, that's no, there's there's there's different realms of nerd, right,
the flavors of it, right, Chris, there you keep mentioning people, right,
And I think there's one video and I don't know
if it's the direct quote quote, but it was like
I didn't do it to get paid. I did it
to help people and people matter, which it shouldn't be
so like prophetic in a sense because it's like, well, well,
clearly people matter. But have you found like folks are

(25:19):
almost retreating from like sense of community, Like it doesn't
feel like I talk to a lot of friends and
sometimes it's like, oh, like, oh, I went out to
the grocery store because like you talk to the clerk
and like, why are you tying to go talk to
like different people?

Speaker 1 (25:32):
And if do.

Speaker 2 (25:33):
You feel that people are retreating from the like general
like or genuine connection with others, Like do you feel
that at all?

Speaker 3 (25:41):
I don't think that they are retreating. I think they
have retreated. And this has been going on for years.
Try this sometimes, just when you're bullshitting with your friends,
ask your friends how many of them know the name
of their neighbors.

Speaker 2 (25:56):
It's a big one.

Speaker 3 (25:58):
Yeah, most people overwhelmingly in the United States, most people
don't know their neighbors, okay, or they'll know their neighbor's name,
what's the neighbor's dogs name, yeah, what's his wife's name. Yeah,
And we don't have that community, that connection. When I
built the Local Crew, people came out of the fucking

(26:20):
woodwork and just the massive support that I've gotten from
the people in the Local Crew who are there. Sure,
they want to come and be a part of what
I'm doing, and they want to help me with projects,
and they want to be an un stuffed and that's
cool and I appreciate that. But a huge part of
it is them building a circle of friends. Because these

(26:43):
they're nerds, these are my people. Okay, they're introverts, they're nerds.
They don't have a lot of social skills, and their
community is entirely digital. It's discord, it's Facebook and stuff
like that. So to be able to give them a tangible,
this several physical connection to other people where let's just

(27:03):
get together and hang out and build shit, you know,
like let's let's get together and help somebody move. We
got together and tore down a shed in the back
of someone's yard, just helped them out we got together
and did demolition after flood damage in a little old
lady's house. Like we're just doing projects. We just get together.
We do cool shit, We help people, we make stuff,

(27:25):
and that sense of community is recurringly. One of the
most common things they comment on is I love the
fact that I'm here and making friends and it's huge.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
We don't mean it's super important too, Like, you know,
and we all have our different groups. I'm fortunate enough
that my neighborhood is well connected. We know each other,
we hang out with each other, you know. We we
don't just know each other's dogs' names. We babysit each
other's dogs or whatever. And kids, I guess who cares.

(27:59):
But like that community thing about weird people, you know,
Like I'm a curler. That's a weird community.

Speaker 3 (28:09):
Okay, I wasn't expecting that from an American. That's I'm impressed.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
Yeah, here's one of my trophies that I won a
million years ago. But you know, and like the curling
club is a place where, let's face it, our Potomac
Curling Club is curling clubs are full of weirdos. But
this is a particularly weird curling club because we're pretty

(28:35):
near NASA Goddard. We have a lot of PhDs. We
have a lot of Washington people, so there's a lot
of like even weird compared to me kind of stuff,
and that we also get together and do things like
build ice and curl on it or like feed each
other or like have board game nights or whatever, which

(28:58):
even that's too weird for me, but like, you know,
we just we just do stuff together and then we're
all friends outside of curling, which is also like but
when you go to these these events and you watch
these people try to interact with each other, it's like
watching The Office on sparrows, like the cringe factor of it.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Oh clearly this is your first

(29:19):
experience with friends and and.

Speaker 2 (29:22):
But it's shocking. Yeah, but it's good though, It's great.

Speaker 1 (29:25):
It's ye.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
They you build, You watch that person six seven weeks,
two months a year, and then that'll melts away.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
I watch them try to talk to each other and
struggle at the like how to have a conversation aspect
of things, and then they don't seem to get any
better at it. But if you want to ask them
about like how light travels through dust at certain ranges
and wavelengths they will go on forever, and it's cool.

(29:55):
I'm interested. I just don't know anything about it.

Speaker 3 (29:58):
You're the only American curler I've ever met. I get
that a lot, Like I didn't even know we did
this in the States. Ah yeah, I dated a championship
curler for twelve years, so like I know about it.
But if it wasn't for her, I would have known. Like,
if if it wasn't for her and you told me, yeah,
I'm a curler, I'd be like hair toes, like.

Speaker 1 (30:20):
What, yeah, we know that. We get the same. So
all of us who are curlers, all of our friends
who are not curlers, whenever they see anything anything remotely
related to curling, I will get the same link, text
message tag on socials for like, hey, it's curling. You

(30:41):
know about curling. Here's this video. I'm like, I know
we've all seen the video, like the one where they're
curling a beaver down the ice.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
Oh yeah, I know, the one with the beaver Like
I said that one.

Speaker 1 (30:54):
Yeah. The other thing is people always ask us the
same questions, are you the one that does the this
or the this? And it's like both everybody does both. Okay,
that's just how curling works. Everybody throws everybody' sweets. Okay,
So we I do want to ask you about uh this,

(31:14):
I want to ask you another autism question if you
don't mind, and I don't I don't really know how
to like put these things within the correct terminologies.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
If I say I work on the internet, You're not gonna.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
I'm just saying I just want to make sure. Uh Okay.
So the first question is what is weaponized autism to
which you refer sometimes? And then the second half of
this question is do circumcisions really cause autism? Oh?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Off?

Speaker 1 (31:46):
I mean because I I have one but not the other.
So I've just it's not the autism. So what is
the weaponized autism?

Speaker 3 (31:59):
Okay? Nobody has ever asked me that before. First off,
it was a joke from the prison video. That was
the first place I think I ever mentioned it. And
there's a T shirt out of that, and oh my god,
is that shirt irrationally fucking popular. You can get it

(32:22):
in my shop Big Beaver Energy dot com. But that
started out as a joke. We never we never planned
like all this just kind of happened. But the weaponized
autism idea because it's a thing that has now had
time to marinate and be a thing. And the idea

(32:43):
is for a lot of people in the technical world, Okay,
in the world of technology, engineering, et cetera, the technical trades,
autism is disproported, portunately represented. Absolutely a lot of the

(33:04):
people in that world, not all of them, but the
vast fucking majority that I've ever worked with are they
get a very particular, very deep, profound focus and understanding
and very niche things which frequently become the thing they
choose as a vocation. I know a lot of guys

(33:28):
that started out in ham radio and got way into
that and end up becoming broadcast engineers, you know, like you,
you do what you love and for me and I
guess I kind of count because I coined the fucking phrase.
Weaponized autism is taking that, taking your particular flavor of theism,

(33:50):
and laser focusing that in a way that you can
solve problems, get paid, make money, win, And that's that's
weaponizing your autism. Is taking this thing that for some
people can be a debilitating affliction and and can just
totally fuck their life and turning into something and flipping

(34:13):
that on its head and saying, Okay, this, this is,
this is how my brain works. I'm going to find
a way to take this, which in other things is
a destructive behavior, is a negative thing, and I'm going
to use this for good. I'm going to use this
for to make the world a better place, to help people,
to solve problems, to create new things, to do better,
to be better. I'm I'm gonna I'm going to intentionally

(34:36):
focus this into the things I'm good at at a
level where I can genuinely make a productive living doing it.
And how you do that is up to you. But
the the fundamental definition of a mental illness is when
your particular flavor of fucking weird impacts your quality of

(34:57):
life in a negative way. Okay, it's it's fine if
you're a little fucking OCD and you have to flip
the light switch on and off twice when you leave
the room, Okay, cool. If you have to do that
seventy six times, now it's impacting your quality of life.
Now it's a problem. Okay, Now that's that's when you
need to get help. Okay, Well, if a particular behavior

(35:23):
can impact your life negatively, why can't you modify that
and adapt your life and adapt your whatever to make
this a positive, to make this a benefit. If a
common flavor of autism is to have a hyper fixation
on a particular thing, usually you know, with the people

(35:44):
I hang out with, usually a technical thing. Okay, well,
maybe you're really into writing code. And none of us
have ever met somebody who's a fucking code code who's
autistic as hell.

Speaker 2 (35:54):
That never happens.

Speaker 1 (35:55):
Oh, they're all totally like yeah, still like between chattering
about football games and whatever. Yeah, if you.

Speaker 3 (36:03):
Could do this, and if you like writing code, why
not get good enough at that to like really laser
focus on it, get good enough at that to get
people to pay you. Because there's there's work for that.
Somebody needs that. Somebody needs electricians and pipe fitters and
code poets and PLC guys and and and and and
and it's all out.

Speaker 1 (36:21):
There's a brick player.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
What suggestions and strategies would you have for folks to
like to like, get weaponized their auto weaponize their autis
more succinct to.

Speaker 1 (36:32):
Say that.

Speaker 3 (36:35):
I got one that people are sleeping on.

Speaker 2 (36:37):
Okay, Oh, here we go. I love sleep.

Speaker 3 (36:40):
This is this is one nobody's fucking talking about these guys,
and we need to. If you have the ability, if
you enjoy a zen type task where you can just
sit down and do a thing where you can focus
and like really shut out the world, put on some

(37:02):
tunes and just do a fucking thing all day long.
If you have that laser focused type ability, especially if
you want to like get in good physical shape and
do like physical stuff, holy fuck, become a bricklayer. Nobody
talks about this. Nobody talks about bricklayers. Everybody talks about carpenter's,

(37:23):
plumbers and electricians everywhere. Those are like, get into the drades,
be a carpenter, be a plumber, be an electrician. They
make it. Be a welder. You hear about those other
Nobody talks about fucking the brick and block guys. Okay,
they make more money than God. And this is a
job that it's physically demanding. Like you you're gonna be

(37:49):
in shape. Okay. If you are a fucking couch potato
right now and you wish you had a decent body
and you don't have the discipline to like do the
gym thing, why not go get paid a fucking fortune
to have the greatest workout program you've ever seen, because
all they do all day is you pick up the brick,
you put the brick on the next and you do

(38:09):
this over and over and at the end of the
day this is this is one of the greatest things.
And electricians don't get this. At the end of the day,
if you're a bricklayer, you can put down your trial,
take a step back and see a thing you made.
You it's like radical visual change. You did a thing, right, Yeah,
you don't get that. In the electrical world. I can.

(38:29):
I can work my ass off for a month and
at the end of the month we did a lot.
Where is it. Well, it's all in the walls, it's
all in the it's it's see all those conduits. I
did that. Most of my works inside that though, like
I did the conduit a month ago. I've spent all
this time running the wires and terminating things. Like I
do a lot of works that nobody ever really gets
to see. With bricklayers, you can drive down the street

(38:49):
and be like, I built that, did that one? See?
Well built that?

Speaker 1 (38:53):
Not only that, but bricklayer, so I, you know, being
in facilities and stuff, I get to work with a
lot of the different trades and stuff, and the you're
certainly right that the Masons get paid a lot of
money and they're a very specialized set of skills. And
the ones who are good at it, yes, they are
in great shape. Also they can see in straight lines
in a way that the rest of us can't.

Speaker 3 (39:15):
Yes, a fuck like these dudes know what straight, plumb
and true.

Speaker 1 (39:21):
Is and and so then there's like several versions. Let's
talk about flavors of that, right. The guys I know
who are really good at drywall and painting who can
walk up and tell you that a wall isn't flat, yeah,
or they they walk by and they're always like looking
or they're kind of and they're seeing like the way

(39:42):
the light and they're like, that's a patch, that's a thing.
Like that's crazy to me because I can't do it.
I try. I'm just bad at it, and I work
at it and I still don't get I had one
of those guys tell me, if you want to get
good at drywall, learn to lay concrete first. Yeah, because
you're trowling and you're smoothing, but it's heavier, so you're

(40:04):
getting that muscle memory. But then when you get to
the lighter stuff, you can do it and much finer
detail or whatever. I tried. That still didn't make me
a lot better, but it did make me a little
bit better, So I did appreciate that. But here's another one.
You want to know another like we'll go down your
rabbit hole on this carpet and floor. Guy. Oh god,

(40:25):
they make a ton of money. They work like as
fast as they can work is as fast as they
can make money. One of the weird things I do
on the side is weddings. Okay, I'm a civil celebrant
in the Commonwealth. So I got called to do this
wedding one time and it was at this giant house
and the girl whose wedding it was, she's like, this

(40:46):
is my brother's house and he's making me pay him
rent to like do the wedding here. I was like,
that's pretty funny. So I said, let me go talk
to your brother, and she goes he's standing over there,
you know, in the corner. And so there's a guy
standing by himself or no, with a buddy or two
and sunglasses on, drinking a beer in like a suit

(41:07):
that doesn't fit him, and clearly he's wearing for the
wedding and doesn't wear other times. And I walk up
to him, I'm like, holy shit, dude, what are you
like a lawyer or something? And he goes, no, I'm
a drug dealer. And I go there's no fucking way.
They don't make this kind of money, you know, Like,
how do you have this house? And he goes, I

(41:28):
do carp He's like, you see those two vans over there,
it's me and two other guys, and that's it. They
don't have any overhead, they don't have any costs really,
and as fast as they can work is as fast
as they can get paid. Oh man, oh man, do
these guys make a buttload of money. And it is
exactly that thing. The're zen, they're in their thing, they're

(41:49):
moving or they're chattering with each other and getting along
like but they're not thinking about what they're doing. That
part is the natural part. They're enjoying what they're doing. Yeah, yeah,
oh my god. All of that stuff is the same, sure,
not the same, but like different flavors of that same thing.

Speaker 3 (42:06):
And it's and it's not hard to get into this. No,
every crew out there, every fucking shop, every crew, right
now is hiring and just walk.

Speaker 1 (42:15):
In desperately so easy to positions right now.

Speaker 3 (42:19):
If you can show up on time, sober, and leave
your fucking phone in your pocket, I want to talk
to you like we're hiring.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Let's go yeah, and all the time.

Speaker 3 (42:30):
That's that's what I'm up against. I can't get people
that can do all three of those at the same time.

Speaker 1 (42:34):
Well, let me ask you about that. You did mention
the local crew a few times, and you know, you've
made some videos about how you're sort of assembling this
group of people that like.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
The Autistic Avengers.

Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yes, so tell us about about that and how they're
working with you to help build your your educational institution
or whatever you want to call it. And that's the
other cool I got excited.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Whatever touch of the simple as you're fine, it's.

Speaker 1 (43:04):
Fine, it'll it'll go away. So what uh, what you know?
Tell us about the autistic Avengers.

Speaker 3 (43:10):
So I put a video out. It became very apparent
that I desperately need an assistant. And my intention was
to get a couple of guys and just like like
literally a couple of guys and have them help me
out doing stuff because there's a lot of behind the
scenes work. There's a lot going on, and I got

(43:34):
like four hundred applicants in the first five minutes. It
just it went nuts. It went fucking nuts. I got
people halfway around the world that are like, I will
pack my shit. I just I want to come work
with you. I'm like, you, you really don't. I'm an asshole.
You don't want that. And and what I did is
I read through a lot, a lot, a lot of applications,

(43:55):
and I did it in a very specific, deliberate way
where I could make it just hard enough. Because I
had I had too many people. So I made a
video saying you have to meet these specific environments. And
the first thing is you have to be local, which
eliminates a ninety nine percent of my audience. Yeah, because

(44:18):
I didn't want to be a dick and say, yeah,
I need you here, get your butt over here, and
you're like two hours away. Like that's not cool. So
like you got to be close. Let's work this out.
And instead of hiring a couple full time assistants, what
it very quickly evolved to was, Okay, let's cap it

(44:39):
at fifty people and we have a chat setup where
alerts go out when we're going to do a thing,
and it's like I'm going to be at this place
at this time for this long doing this thing, and
whoever wants to show up, come and hang and we're
going to do this, and there's it's entirely here. Though

(45:01):
I do pay them a lot for certain things, like well,
when I had to move, they all came help me move.
I paid everybody a hundred bucks for the day just
for showing up and helping out.

Speaker 1 (45:10):
Sure, which is.

Speaker 3 (45:11):
A lot when it's like fifteen people. But well, we
get together, we do these things, and everybody gets to
learn skills, everybody gets to build this community. And it's
locked at only fifty guys. Whenever somebody goes out, we
had a new one in and there's a line of
people that want to get in on this and it's amazing.

(45:34):
It's been a massive help to me. It's been wonderfully
empowering to all of the people involved, not just me,
and now I'm seeing them like we have our own
We have a private discord away from the world because
like my main discord is eighteen thousand people like it's nuts.
So we have a separate discord where we can get

(45:55):
together and chat and be able to say, hey, I'm
doing this thing this weekend, do you want to come?
And they're doing their own things. They've got their own
little side projects. Like one guy just he took a
deck off the side of his neighbor's house and several
people showed up just to help, just to hang out,
just like, yeah, I got a couple of tools, I'll
show up, fucking let's go. And it's great. It's the

(46:15):
results from this have been spectacular.

Speaker 1 (46:18):
It sounds like so much fun. I kind of have
that same thing in my neighborhood, it's just not as successful. Like, Hey,
I am going to do this and I'll group chat
it to like all of my neighbors and friends and like,
does anybody you know want to come along? Every once
in a while, somebody be like, yeah, okay, I'll help you,
like pull a tarp over that shed or whatever. Yeah,

(46:38):
but they never it's like once in a while. Usually
it's me and my nine year old like out there
with a drill and like, you know, and but she's
pretty good with the drill, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:48):
Nine year old dudes. Yes, you can get these for
like twenty bucks and there's stores, so no, not just
a toolbox, this little tiny like it's just like dad
tool box, but they're like twenty bucks. Oh.

Speaker 1 (47:05):
She has her own sets of tools already. The very
the very first thing I bought her when she was like,
I don't know, eight months old. We were rolling through
depot and we rolled past the pipe wrenches, and she
irrationally started jumping out of the seat in the cart.
She wanted an eight inch pipe wrench.

Speaker 2 (47:26):
And I was like, okay, eight month old, you know
there is no way you can hold this, but you can.

Speaker 3 (47:34):
Have it pipe wrench.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
I bought her the pipe wrench, and and she she
loves the pipe wrench. She tunnels every night. No, I mean, yeah,
she's got tools. That's not the problem at all. Okay,
so we we do know that you're you're up in Michigan. Yeah,
and so we have a very important question to ask you.

(47:58):
Are you big Blue or little Brother?

Speaker 3 (48:04):
Do you mean Michigan versus State?

Speaker 1 (48:06):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (48:07):
Oh, I'm gonna have to go.

Speaker 1 (48:08):
You have m on that correct answer.

Speaker 3 (48:12):
I just love to see that.

Speaker 1 (48:13):
Thank you appreciate that. This is a I'm a huge
Michigan fan.

Speaker 3 (48:18):
Oh see, I don't. I don't sports very much, and
I understand there.

Speaker 2 (48:24):
I love. I love when we have people on here
that don't do any sports.

Speaker 3 (48:27):
I like, I play chess. I have a body built
for chess, and and I played chess poorly. But I
just like, look at me. I don't fucking football, like
that's that's gonna hurt.

Speaker 1 (48:42):
I don't football either. I watch football and I and
I think about football, and I argue about rationally what.

Speaker 3 (48:50):
Happened that's the thing on television. And I don't watch
TV like I I just don't. I am television, so
I don't. I don't y. I like books a weird.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
Yeah, try to tell you, all right, books.

Speaker 1 (49:09):
So, speaking of books and nerd things, this is a
setup for when you come back for the next time
you come to visit us.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
With a ludgings that I get invited back.

Speaker 4 (49:18):
You.

Speaker 1 (49:18):
You will be invited back. You'll get that you're very
much invited. So would you come back some other time
and tell us about the crypto story and and and
all of that, and maybe explain to us because I
don't know about tees. But I don't think that we've
I haven't personally moved past this understanding that crypto is

(49:38):
basically Beanie babies with serial numbers, and so.

Speaker 3 (49:42):
So much more than that.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
See, that's why I need you to come back.

Speaker 3 (49:45):
So fundamental rule and I'll say this here on the air.
It is beyond your ability to embarrass or offend me.
I've I've been fucked by people that know how. So
don't be afraid to ask me about anything you want.
There are certain things I won't talk about. I keep
my private life pretty private just because it's it's dangerous.

(50:08):
I'm I'm just famous enough for it to be a
genuine pain in the ass. So I tend to keep
my private life private. But you could ask me anything
you want. You're not gonna offend me. You're not gonna
embarrass me. Like I went to prison, I did federal
fucking time. I walked two different federal prison yards. I
I I've been fucked by people that know how. I

(50:30):
I've been hurt by real people. I'm you're not gonna
You're you're not gonna hurt me.

Speaker 1 (50:35):
You're fine, all right, So we we're gonna when we
have you back, We're gonna have you back to talk
about crypto because that is a thing that I'm still
trying to like get my head around We've had several
people on here, one of them including one of our
friends who's a lawyer who specializes in crypto.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
Okay, and you should have him on, not me. I'm
the guy that went to prison for it. Get the lawyer.

Speaker 1 (50:56):
He has tried several times to explain to us the
like why there should be regulation, why there shouldn't be regulation,
on what and how it works, and so far she
has been unsuccessful in getting any of it to stick
in my brain. So maybe we'll have you both on
and you can you can sort of explain.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
That I'm probably not the best.

Speaker 1 (51:15):
Person she can get you out.

Speaker 2 (51:19):
I'm more interested in the coming out of prison and
then re the inability to re enter the workforce.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
Yes, to talk about exactly.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
So I have a little, a little quick one for
you on that.

Speaker 1 (51:36):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
When I got out, I was required by my PO
to have a a W two job. Right required by
my p this is halfway house ship. The day I
came home from prison, I went back to work at

(51:57):
my job. But because I was self employed, ignoring the
fact that I'm an engineer for three different power plans, okay,
gainfully employed, I made more money than my PO, which
admittedly is a low bar, but they were like, yeah,

(52:18):
that doesn't count. You have to go get a real job. So,
as director of engineering for a power company, I went
to home depot, my local home depot, and I applied
for a job, and I gave a resume like here's
here's my skill. And they were like, oh my god,
this is great. This is your Holy shit, you want

(52:40):
to work here?

Speaker 7 (52:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (52:41):
Yeah, put me in the electrical department. I'd be great.
I spend a lot of time at home depot.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
I love it.

Speaker 3 (52:48):
And she's like, yeah, we want to make you a
head cash here. I'm like, no, you don't, you don't
and she's like no, no, we like it's like, just
put me in the back corner, put me in the
electrical department. I'll be fine, Customers will be happy, I'll
be happy. Everybody wins. And she's like, no, we want
to make you a cashier.

Speaker 1 (53:03):
And like, you can't do that, can't do that.

Speaker 3 (53:05):
She's like, why is because I just got out of
federal prison for money laundering. You can't make me a cashier.
Like that's not going to happen, right, My My po
would ship a Miata. Let's not do that. And and
she's like, you you went to prison. I was like, yeah,
I just got out, like like five minutes ago. I
just got out of federal prison. And and she's like, yeah, okay,

(53:28):
I didn't get a call back. And that went from
I was the greatest potential employees she had seen in
a year to you're not getting a call back to
work at Home Depot.

Speaker 1 (53:42):
I mean that that that this is why just wants to.

Speaker 2 (53:46):
Because that's insane, insane.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
But also, like DC has this sort of famous thing
about returning citizens and like an actual government focused on
how to help those people re enter and and and
get things moved again. And that's fairly unique within the country.
And as DC kids, we we we do want to
talk about that. So we'll have you back, sure, and

(54:08):
then the next time we'll have you back. I'm talking about.

Speaker 3 (54:11):
Happy to talk about whatever you want. By the way,
the Home Depot story does have a happy ending in
the end.

Speaker 1 (54:16):
What kind of happy ending, because you know, some people
watch the show.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
I didn't get the job, but I went on to
become a few dozen people watch my videos on the internet,
and I make all the shirts that you see me
wear in all the videos. Every shirt you see me
wearing is one that you can get in my shot.
One of the shirts I wear is it's It's It's
an old Bootsy line, like Bootsy the bass player that

(54:42):
boots Yeah.

Speaker 1 (54:43):
Booty cons big deal here in DC.

Speaker 3 (54:46):
He has a famous line of cry to tears and
a bucket fuck it Yeah. I have a T shirt
that has a very distinctive yeah, the very distinctive orange
bucket that says chuck it in the fucket bucket And
it's on a home depot orange bucket with the same font,
the same lettering and all that. I wore this into
home depot and a couple of employees and we're like, dude,

(55:09):
where do I get one of those? So I showed them.
I was like, here, I got a card, go go
to this website and they scand it QRCO.

Speaker 1 (55:15):
So now.

Speaker 3 (55:18):
Nine of the employees at my local home depot have
these shirts and they wear them at home. They don't
wear them to work. Obviously she bought. The woman who
would not give me a callback on a job interview
owns one of my shirts, and I don't think she
knows it's the same guy I'd be willing to beentually
has no idea. But yeah, she bought she bought two

(55:42):
of my shirts, so like, ah, fuck it.

Speaker 1 (55:46):
Yeah, Boots of Collins is a big deal here in DC. Really,
we have this thing called go go that's going to
be a whole thing. We'll have to explain to you
about that, maybe one million.

Speaker 3 (55:57):
Yeah, teach me about fucking go go because that it's
a new thing. I mean, wait till you hear about
this new band that just came out called the bee Gees.

Speaker 1 (56:10):
No, no, this is junkyard and stuff. It's many yards,
many many things have the word yard in him. For
for whatever reason, it's not really clear backyard junkyard.

Speaker 2 (56:23):
Yeah, Iyah questions the element of funk, well, I mean
I'm down.

Speaker 3 (56:28):
For anything with a good funk to it.

Speaker 1 (56:30):
It's yeah, it's never escaped the belt Way. It's incredibly localized.
We are the only people who are into it, although
apparently there's a little like community in Philly that's like
a bit of a go go thing. Because I think
his questlove always like includes a go go band in
his festivals and stuff, because like.

Speaker 3 (56:48):
Is this different from is this different from the go
go that like from the sixties seventies, go go? Danh
not that at all, not that at all, Okay.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
No, No, it's the most famous, of course is Chuck Brown.
So if you if you go listen to Chuck Brown Records,
Chuck Brown and Soul Searchers, you can you can hear
uh the early versions that becomes Go Go.

Speaker 8 (57:07):
But it's yeah, yeah, it's it's funky, it's funk, it's blues,
it's call and response, it's heavy percussion, it's got a
particular beat to it.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
All right, I got to check this out.

Speaker 1 (57:20):
It involves a lot of Like there's a there's a
position in the band called the lead talker. What other
bands have?

Speaker 3 (57:28):
There's a job I could do, yeah, easily.

Speaker 2 (57:34):
See all right.

Speaker 3 (57:36):
I got you send me some links. You've got me
on on checks.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Yeah, I'll send you a bunch of stuff. All right,
So I'll check this out. Where can everybody check you
out so that they can follow you. They can buy
the shirts with the fucking buckets and all that kind
of cool stuff. All right?

Speaker 3 (57:48):
If you want to find my merch and all that jazz,
my web store is at big beaver energy dot com.
And your every YouTuber has a merch store with like
eight to ten things in it, like by far, that's
the average is about eight to ten things. I have hundreds,
hundreds and hundreds of different like most of them deeply inappropriate.

(58:10):
Shirt like the shirt I'm wearing right now. Okay, this
is this is the first impression I needed to make
on your show.

Speaker 1 (58:17):
I can read assl Yeah, you got it.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
And people love the shirt and I'm thrilled with it.
I like, I have a very particular flavor of comedy
that I do. And it's pretty safe bet that what
will be written on as my epitaph on my tombstone
will say I thought it was funny, like that's that's
just I make a lot of jokes about things that

(58:44):
you're usually not supposed to make jokes about.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
So and the rest of our show.

Speaker 3 (58:49):
There's hundreds of shirts at Big Beaver Energy dot com.
You can find me on YouTube. The main the big
channel is just search for my name Chris Boden or
physics duck is. I'm not sure what name it's in,
but I'm easy to find. Just hit Chris Boden into YouTube.

Speaker 1 (59:06):
You'll hit me.

Speaker 3 (59:08):
I have a classroom safe channel that is actually the
old channel from when I had the Science Institute, and
we change the name it's not called the NSI anymore.
It's called Chaotic Good. And I drop all of my
classroom friendly you know, PG rated stuff goes there. My

(59:29):
my main channel, my personal channel is definitely not intended
for children or for those with similarly functioning minds. I'm
not I'm not gonna stop swearing on the internet just
because I fucking offended. You eat a dick? And yeah,
that's those are And I'm on Amazon. I've written a
few books.

Speaker 2 (59:47):
I wrote.

Speaker 3 (59:48):
I wrote a book called Surviving Life with Your Gigantic Penis.
Oh god, you have art for this? Oh fuck, you're
on it. Yeah, I'm you've okay. Two of those books
aren't even in print. I'm amazed you found those.

Speaker 1 (01:00:03):
Brian's pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:00:04):
It's he's really Brian's he's.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
The best part of the show, on part of this show.

Speaker 3 (01:00:11):
But Surviving Life of Your Gigantic Penis is my first book.
It's awesome. It's a lot of funny stories. It's all
short stories. And the second book is Epicurricay.

Speaker 1 (01:00:20):
Which is about the giant penis.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
Yes, and it's it's Epiccurricasy is also a bunch of
short stories and it's it's some of my earliest writing,
Like at my early professional writing. I'm a lot better now.
I'm a lot tighter now. I just don't have time
to write another book at the moment. It takes a
long time to write a book.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
We've had several best selling authors on the show fairly recently.
I am in It took them forever and then yeah,
made them wait because you know, that's the level of
professionalism we have on this show.

Speaker 3 (01:00:50):
I am nowhere near a best best selling author, but
I hit the line and that's that was enough for me.
All books ever written will not sell two hundred and
fifty copies, and that is a soul crushing statistic for
anybody who makes a living writing. And I took a

(01:01:11):
shot at it and I sold more than two hundred
and fifty copies.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
So good job.

Speaker 3 (01:01:16):
So that was I was like, yeah, I wrote a book,
people liked it.

Speaker 2 (01:01:20):
Cool.

Speaker 3 (01:01:21):
I'm no fucking Andy Weir, but you know it's enough
for me.

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
Hey, we'll take it. Okay. So there's all the places
you can get in touch with Chris and you can
follow him, watch his videos. You can learn so much
from these videos. They're entertaining, but also you're gonna learn
whether you want it to or not, you're gonna learn
and and they're slick, they're they're well made, but they're
just the right kind of like look homemade, to feel

(01:01:47):
comfortable and all of that stuff. So it's really a
great aesthetic. I'm a big fan of that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:51):
And this merch is amazing.

Speaker 1 (01:01:53):
The merchant is amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
I'm just gonna read random like phrases of the merch
with no context throughout the rest of Oh god, yeah,
you can't one reason not to read me either, me either,
because we can share a seat on the short bus

(01:02:15):
to hell. It's great, It's good, great on this website.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
I'm glad you like it. I'm really proud of it.
There's put a lot of work into that, and every
single shirt on there is one that I created. I
don't do all the artwork myself. I have a I
have a team for that, but I go to them
with an idea of like I want this on a shirt,
and then they go up and they make heartwork for it,
and then we put it up and see if anybody

(01:02:43):
wants to buy it. And it turns out there's a
lot of really sick motherfuckers out there. I love you people,
thank you.

Speaker 1 (01:02:51):
Well, that sounds like a great place to leave it.
So uh And if you want to get a Chipchat shirt,
you can try to get one from Chris, but I
don't think he's gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (01:02:57):
I have a question for you. I got I gotta ask.
I am a question. I looked at your logo, Like
when we went into the the intro there, I saw
your logo come up for the first time.

Speaker 1 (01:03:08):
You're an HVAC guy, yes, but you have.

Speaker 3 (01:03:11):
A fist with thunderbolts like the ibe W logo. Yeah,
what is this poser? Bullshit? You're fucking Sparky's representing yo,
Like what?

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
So first, first, let me just in defense of my trade. Okay,
we are the we are here's you want to see
the cocky HVAC thing. We're we're the king of the
trades because we do electrical. Where we are running electrical,
we're running controls.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
Yeah, yeah, get that twenty four volts going sh It's dangerous.

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
That's just the controls. I mean, we only go up
to like four eighty and stuff like you we're not
running We're not running the big stuff, right, But no,
those are really supposed to be like for a radio broadcast.
So it's really like a radio okay, because it's you know,
it's radio.

Speaker 3 (01:03:57):
So you're not riffing on the ib W logo. You're
riffing on the old r c A logo with the.

Speaker 1 (01:04:04):
Radio tower and then the fists in the air because
it's uh, you know, protesting and and stuff like that. Yeah,
so it's yeah, that one. So it's a radio tower
with the with the radio broadcasting coming off of it there, Okay,
and it's red, white and blue because you know it's America.

Speaker 2 (01:04:22):
Yeah, ye starting zapping to go.

Speaker 3 (01:04:29):
He's gonna do this.

Speaker 2 (01:04:30):
He's gonna do it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
The whole show, and and and you're you're gonna like
have these things flying off your shelves for they're flying
off the shows because he's great.

Speaker 2 (01:04:39):
Make it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:41):
Make us a better logo.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
I I.

Speaker 1 (01:04:45):
A different logo.

Speaker 3 (01:04:46):
I don't want a piece of that fight.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Man.

Speaker 3 (01:04:48):
Logos are hard. Logos are hard work. The guy you
want to make your logo. There's a dude on Instagram
who is a professional sign maker who does logo work
and he makes amazing video, just amazing, like and he
does logos for a living. But he gets it like
he's a he's a good artist and I love his shit.

(01:05:08):
Look him up. There are like it's easy to find
professional sign maker, logo design who does Instagram videos. There's
like one guy doing this, but he's really good, he
makes good content.

Speaker 1 (01:05:19):
We'll check him out. Okay, we're going to go to
do the second and third halves of the show. Chris,
you are certainly invited to stick around.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
It's it's getting thirty hours.

Speaker 1 (01:05:33):
Yes, it's all right.

Speaker 3 (01:05:35):
Can you send me a link where I can tune
in and watch this?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Yeah, you can watch it right now on YouTube.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
Excellent. Yeah, I can tune into the live saying, oh
sook somewhere there's like a chat bar going down to
side and all that that I can't see. Yes, oh fuck, there's.

Speaker 1 (01:05:49):
Okay, So you can tune into YouTube right now, but
it's okay. At Belt Weigh Radio Beyond is our channel,
and you can watch us live. You can watch all
of our pre episodes there. Uh, and you can watch
the other shows that are on our network as well.
You can see all of their episodes and things that.
It's all there so and then of course you can
follow us on Facebook, uh where Chipchat you can pretty easily. Yeah,

(01:06:14):
we we'd love to share with you and if you
want us ever to come on your show and like
do stuff. You know, we're a heavy show. Well you know.

Speaker 3 (01:06:22):
Jokes to oh totally.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
Yeah, we're great at it. You have got two foot
longs right here. All right, anyway, all right, we're gonna
we're gonna take a break. We're gonna let Chris got bet.
Yeah he's funnier. Uh and and get up in the
morning and save the world with electricity or whatever it
is those sparks and uh, We're gonna take a break.
Chris Boden, thank you so much for joining us. We

(01:06:45):
cannot wait to have you back. And we we we
just love having you here. Man, it's so cool. All Right,
we're gonna take a break. You're listening to Chipchat on
beltwegh radio and beyond.

Speaker 3 (01:07:00):
Are we clear?

Speaker 1 (01:07:02):
Just about the fuck? He gets it?

Speaker 9 (01:07:12):
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the promise speakers Street two three, the black most two
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Speaker 10 (01:07:33):
Then I want to be like you seem funny you
call me your record what you want.

Speaker 7 (01:07:39):
Thought, So I just take a bad and I die die.

Speaker 1 (01:07:49):
You die.

Speaker 9 (01:07:55):
One two fas, some trousers and a black three tooth.

Speaker 10 (01:07:59):
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supposed to be grown just how few and I did post.
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they are already that paper.

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Speaker 11 (01:08:35):
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Speaker 10 (01:08:47):
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I've gotta beat with the jay D's there with a
wipe just so you.

Speaker 11 (01:08:51):
Got no flour one cut their religion? Who thanks for
gon make my decision by bye bye. Better watch your position.
Want to be me, but you got no vision. We
need to We need to get up talk, get up,
get up.

Speaker 12 (01:09:14):
That is kinda fla joy joy. So I'm pretty politics
and ditch.

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
All right. Welcome back to tip Chat here on Beltwegh
Radio and beyond. I am real chip with me.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
Is tz what's bob me up?

Speaker 1 (01:09:43):
And that was awesome hanging out with Chris Uh great man.
What a guess you know. We've been hitting pretty uh
pretty good on the guest lately, and we've got some
more great ones coming up.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Just to let everybody knowin it's you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:59):
Well. Next next week we're supposed to talk to Sonari Glinton,
formerly of NPR and with his cool new project about Vanilla,
which is not about Vanilla. And then Bo Corley is
gonna come back and do some cheffing right before Thanksgiving.
So love it. It's gonna be it's gonna be fantastic.

(01:10:23):
All right. So now we're on to the part of
the show, which is the headlines. This is I don't
know if anybody actually tunes in for this, but this
is the thing that my favorite part of the show.
I don't know, maybe the other parts of the show.
I have a lot of favorite parts. It's good show,
a lot of good a lot of good parts.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
Many people are saying this.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
Many people are saying, now we do have you know,
I don't care what order? I know, I know, I'm
there is one that you have to read.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
We'll get the order right, I'll start this off.

Speaker 1 (01:10:54):
Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 (01:10:58):
The shutdown has gotten so bad that some NASA staffers
are showing their Moon on onlyfeds dot Com.

Speaker 1 (01:11:04):
That's true, all right. Controversy sprang up over this week
as pictures emerged of JD. Vance holding Erica Kirk very closely.
He was drawn to her by the leather pants which
she had on that reminded him of a nice little
Italian love seat.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
Jesus Christ, So gods get they only get worse from here. Yes,
I mean not that it matters what I'm gonna say
after this, but nothing is it?

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Usha vans Usha? Usha? There is Usha vans Usha. Vance
was pretty upset, but when she asked if she'd make
JD sleep on the couch that night, she commented, what
do you think? She commented, quote, he just fucked that.
He just fucked that too.

Speaker 1 (01:11:47):
Foodstamps are now halted and millions of Americans are going hungry,
including many kids. However, Erica Kirk's kids won't suffer, as
their new daddy JD. Van says he'll sell Usha's kids
to cover them.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Christ. That's insane, all right. Now then people are saying
many people have been saying it's insane. Now. This is
a first. Got to set this up. This is a
tweet from lizab Bill.

Speaker 1 (01:12:12):
Ackman Bill Ackman. Yeah, he's a billionaire CEO and CEO.
And this tweet was just before the election for New
York mayor.

Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
All right, so there's there, we are, there's a setup everybody.
All right, So supposedly unprecedented two point two million turnout
with sixty above forty five year olds. I am going
to be an optimist and say that at Andrew Cuomo
is going to get the win. If he fails to win,
it's because at Curtis Sliwa cares more about himself than

(01:12:46):
New York City. Let's never forget that. If Andrew wins,
he's going to be a great mayor. Why because he
will owe nothing to the Democratic Party Old Donald Trump,
and he will be working only for his legacy. He
can there He can therefore do whatever is right for
New York City for the long term without worrying about
the political consequences. A real Donald Trump is going to

(01:13:10):
want to work with Cuomo to make n y great again.

Speaker 1 (01:13:15):
M n y g A.

Speaker 13 (01:13:19):
You heard what I said, M and he didn't say
this y g A say many g A no, got
say m A n y g A.

Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
And then they go who everybody else? I'm spelled it
out to everybody. You guys can maybe guess what m
N y g A spelled out?

Speaker 1 (01:13:55):
Might you know just what it might? But it's not
because of the way he wrote out how you're supposed
to say it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:02):
Yo, I'm not saying exactly. Let mean the way this
is written out and who it's coming from. It's just
I don't know if this is accidents, is an accident,
but uh.

Speaker 1 (01:14:18):
This is clueless whitebread. But you know you're not supposed
to say nuclear. And then there's another one.

Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
Oh yeah, exactly, that's clearly it. I think president and quote.
I think the president and quote will respect each other,
which increases the chances that they will work well together.
We will know supposedly by nine to thirty pm. We
knew by nine thirty pm.

Speaker 14 (01:14:39):
I'll tell you that.

Speaker 2 (01:14:42):
Yeah, So don't say it. Don't say it.

Speaker 1 (01:14:45):
Don't don't say m N yga Yeah again, don't don't
say it.

Speaker 2 (01:14:53):
No, it's no hard e R. But still it's not
it's not a it's not it's not great at all.

Speaker 1 (01:15:04):
All right, Curtis finished, there you Curtis lee Wan finished
a distant third in the mayor's race in New York,
but came in a close second in name difficulty.

Speaker 5 (01:15:24):
Yeah, you know, may guy, and stop helping. Sorry this
one you gotta read to.

Speaker 2 (01:15:42):
Charles stripped his brother. Oh god, I can look compose myself.
King Charles stripped his brother Andrew of his titles. Worst
still is when Andrew will also have his Prince Albert
stripped out all right.

Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
In Virginia, Democrats won landslide elections for all state wide
races and a super majority in the House of Delegates.
Kaz Ala Hashmi is the first Muslim woman woman elected
statewide anywhere in the country. Abigail Spamberger is the first
woman governor of the Commonwealth. And Jay Jones is probably
something special but who cares?

Speaker 2 (01:16:22):
Hey, somehow top of the ticket. They dragged his as
they pulled him up.

Speaker 4 (01:16:27):
Man.

Speaker 2 (01:16:29):
Yeah, and unfortunately my and why good loss?

Speaker 5 (01:16:39):
I'm speaking?

Speaker 2 (01:16:40):
Oh the Dems. Also one big in New Jersey is
congresswoman informing former Navy helicopter pilot and woman with a
confusing uh name which it's it's Mickey Cheryl, Right, it's
Mikey Mike excuse Mikey Cheryl here it is right, trounce
the Republican opponents gotta do it. I might butcher, this

(01:17:07):
will do? Is it salami.

Speaker 1 (01:17:10):
Catatory? Okay? His real name was not that, Jack Chittarelli.

Speaker 14 (01:17:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:17:18):
I was like, that's basically salami katatory, and I was
gonna make you do it because you know you can
say yeah exactly all right. In California, the vote to
redistrict one with a nearly two to one margin, or
roughly the ratio of gel to hair on Gavin Newsom's head.

Speaker 2 (01:17:37):
Awesome, and no, I'm a new thing to say. The
FAA has ordered a ten reduction of flights as the
shutdown means even fewer air traffic controllers. But don't worry,
the unpaid TSA agents will still be groping you at

(01:17:57):
one hundred.

Speaker 1 (01:17:59):
That's right. Speaking of the shutdown, it is now the
longest in history, unless, of course, you count Milania.

Speaker 2 (01:18:05):
Oh God, that is Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (01:18:09):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:18:10):
In sports, the Dodgs are once again world champions, saving
us from having to hear about Canada for a lease
until the least crash out of the playoffs. That's true.

Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
The Jets traded most of their players, but don't worry.
We hear they got some new shoes and a sub
sandwich card with only one punch to go.

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
That's good.

Speaker 2 (01:18:32):
A lot of sandwich talk around these parts lately. The
first ranking of the college football players are out, with Ohio, Indiana, Texas,
A and M and Alabama in the top four, which
also happens to be the national literacy rankings bottom four.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:51):
As Thanksgiving approaches, Craft announced a new apple pie flavored
mac and cheese, which sounds terrible until you realize that
it's the same color as regular Craft mac and cheese,
and then it sounds way worse.

Speaker 2 (01:19:08):
That's really bad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:19:11):
And speaking of pasta, lyisteria outbreak in pre package prepared
uh prepared to hold on, let's se if I get
this one. And speaking of pasta, a histeria outbreak in
pre package pre prepared pasta is rocketing through California, Florida, Hawaii, Illinois, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri,

(01:19:36):
North Carolina, Nevada, Ohio, Oregon, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, Virginia,
and Washington.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Nice, just secretary of.

Speaker 2 (01:19:48):
You're not to worry.

Speaker 1 (01:19:50):
As long as they wash their pasta down road killed
they should just be fun, all right, And that's that.
I just have a call, Okay, let's uh, let's go
right to the election results and then Brian can try
to ai us with his weird break because I'm sure

(01:20:11):
he's got one uh in the chamber. But we did,
we did briefly get to to mention it in the headlines.
Let's start in the Commonwealth, shall we, since I mean
it's an easy one, right, well, and I'm here, Yeah,
so let's take Abby Spamberger governor elect. What are we thinking?

Speaker 2 (01:20:30):
I mean, did we see who she was running against?

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
And he never even he.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Never, And that's I find even more maddening. Yeah, this
is not a Trump endorsed candidate, and I guess obviously
lieutenant governor that's not that's not really odd. You would
think the lieutenant governor would put their name in the race.
But yeah, no, this it was clear as day that

(01:21:02):
that was not the right option, and just basic politics
Virginia and Northern Virginia which seemed to carry it like
not just I mean, it's huge numbers and regardless, right,
And I think it's very interesting to see how many
points that she beat out Kamala Harris in certain places,

(01:21:22):
like it's interesting to see the switch happen again, which
makes me worried about.

Speaker 1 (01:21:26):
The every single yeah, yeah, every single county.

Speaker 2 (01:21:32):
But it's right, yeah, up, which means you had to
snatch voters who voted for Donald Trump or voted for
Glenn youngkis state home or stayed home. Right, But yeah, no,
I mean it's clear in Virginia. And I think we'll
talk about this, is that for Democrats to win, it

(01:21:52):
seems like going forward from looking at this election, and
this is small sample size, but I do think it
speaks in volumes in certain areas. Is that depending on
where you're at, you need to run on those specific
issues and right state wide elections, right, And I think
that is as clear as days like those, that is
a winning strategy because we talked through all the different candidates.

(01:22:13):
There are different styles of candidates.

Speaker 1 (01:22:15):
They're not but they're not always on the same thing,
which is affordability, the economy, the basic kitchen table stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:23):
And I think specifically in northern Virginia where a government shutdown,
let alone the dismantling of agencies to people not even
having jobs. Yeah, you can't run that for ten months
and expect people to be like, oh, I'm okay with this,
And I mean we'll get to the Attorney General eventually.

(01:22:45):
But yeah, I thought, I mean, that's a very impressive,
impressive thing.

Speaker 1 (01:22:50):
I doesn't even begin to derive what happened there.

Speaker 2 (01:22:54):
But you look, there's arrows where they start pointing on
those maps are really crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:22:58):
It's crazy. It's crazy. It's see how how well Spamberger
did even in in counties that voted uh, you know,
in high numbers for Trump. Right. And yet two main
things going on there. One, Spamberger is a you know,
a blue dog Democrat when she was in the in
the House, she has a national security background. She's you know,

(01:23:18):
CIA agent and uh, and she's remembered that she had
Tom wolfsold seat. Right, So this is Virginia ten. This
is like Louden County actually goes like the edge of
her old district is about a mile from my house,
so like that's how close it is. But but it

(01:23:39):
stretches all the way you know, out to Warren County
and stuff. But that this Tom Wolf was was sort
of famously the Virginia way, pragmatist sort of way of running.
So she won in that district. That if that's a
representation of her position in politics and things like that,
you know, Virginias historically haven't been super partisan. You know,

(01:24:06):
Virginia is not a place where you win by being that.
So Spamberger keeping it cool, not taking the bait. That's
one side of this. The Republicans ran the worst possible
candidate that could have worn up. She's an empty suit
in the first place. She did nothing, as I mean,
lieutenant governor in Virginia doesn't do anything. But she didn't

(01:24:29):
do a good job of really like riding up on
Youngkin's coattails. He didn't do anything to help her at
all at all. She raised no money, she had no
national party support at all, and a national party that
has a ton of money, it has a ton of money.
But they either they they figured they couldn't win based

(01:24:51):
on it being the off year response to Trump and
that that was already a lost cause in the first place,
or she's a black woman and they don't like her,
right but which her bus caught on fire, like the
metaphor is strong. She was a bad candidate, I mean,
and she had she had not a single issue to
run on apart from scaring people about uh bathroom use,

(01:25:13):
which it just made no sense and it was not
a motivating issue. In the state, where as you mentioned,
the federal workforce is a huge part of it. The
shutdown harmed. When some series candidacy Trump harms her candidacy,
it's you know, okay, so spamburger is good, but also

(01:25:36):
when somewhere else series is bad, she's bad candidate. Don't
run her again. I mean, if you want to win.

Speaker 2 (01:25:41):
It's clear that she has no backing from uh the
Republican Party or Donald Trump because.

Speaker 1 (01:25:48):
She conceded, well, they all conceded. I thought that was
absolutely what But that's fine. That part.

Speaker 2 (01:25:59):
I was very surprised and there was a concession made,
even even in those numbers. I was like, well, let's
just see how they say this was stolen from Yeah,
they got to call it and that didn't happen, And
I was like interesting, and that was interesting to me.

Speaker 1 (01:26:14):
Again. I just I do want to like make a
point for the Virginia way, like that it doesn't fly here,
Like there isn't even in the trumpiest parts of Virginia.
There is no uh like animosity towards the governor. Like
it's not a thing we do. We do pragmatic, middle

(01:26:37):
of the road governance in Virginia. It has always been that,
you know, even even when we had George Allen and
and uh Gilmour and these guys, you know, like you
might think of them as pretty republican Republicans, but they
didn't govern as such, and they didn't crash the economy.
And Virginia's economy is very tied to the federal government.

(01:26:57):
It's very tied to you know, the Navy and all
of that, and the education system in Virginia and all
of those things. It's tough to be a partisan hack
and be effective here. So I don't know speaking a
partisan hacks though, And like lack of support from the
National Party you want to talk about, like John Reid
running against Kazala Hashmi. You know, again, lieutenant governor doesn't

(01:27:19):
do anything except preside over the Senate, and he young
can try to push him out of running in the
first place. Like he not only didn't have any support,
they were anti John Reid, you know, in the Virginia
Demo or Republican Committee because he's openly gay and apparently

(01:27:40):
a big fan of Nazi pornography. It's tough to win
on that platform. Can't see why he lost. But good
job for Zala Hashmi. She is the first Indian American
elected statewide in Virginia. She is the first Muslim American
elected statewide in Virginia. She was already the first of

(01:28:03):
those two categories elected, you know, to the House of
Eliots when she was serving as delegate. And you know,
Lieutenant governor doesn't do anything like we said, but it's
teeing her up, right, it's it's the next in line.
So let's let's see. But what she doesn't have to
do and what this is gonna make a difference, is,
you know, presiding over to the Senate. She doesn't have

(01:28:24):
to cast any tie breakers because the Democrats have the
tie broken in the Virginia Senate and now in the
House of Delegates a super majority and not just a
super majority, sixty four that's out of one hundred.

Speaker 2 (01:28:42):
Huge. I mean, just that's on the top of the ticket, though,
I mean, I think the top of the ticket drives that, right,
it's start.

Speaker 1 (01:28:50):
Part of that. It's also picking good candidates, working the bench.
I think when Charlie was here last and we were
talking about the Democratic bench in Virginia, he mentioned that
the bench is very deep. You've got people who really
know their districts. These districts got redrawn. You know my
delegate change for example, but they got redrawn through the commission.

(01:29:14):
Wasn't jerry mannered or anything like that, but it was.
It was even still like a big pickup, and we flipped.
We had a fifty one, now we have sixty four. Like,
think about what that flip looks like. It's it's an
absolute rebuke, and it's it sets Virginia up really well

(01:29:36):
for this redistricting plan because we had the vote on
the redistricting prior to the election. You have the election,
then you have another vote on it in the House,
it passes out of out of Richmond, and then you
can have the referendum on it, which we could get
to get done in the spring, get the district's redrawn
before twenty twenty six. So like it it all bodes

(01:29:56):
very well. Let's talk about Jay Jones. He was bad
Kennedy too.

Speaker 2 (01:30:01):
I mean, he was cooked.

Speaker 1 (01:30:05):
He was pretty empty in terms of like his background.
He had been you know, committee chair of various things
in the House of Eliots, but he wasn't like some
sort of rock star or anything like that. I didn't
even vote for him in the primary. But he then
got stuck with this text message scandal.

Speaker 2 (01:30:26):
That they ran into the ground and they spent money anywhere,
they spent money on those ends, but they.

Speaker 1 (01:30:35):
Tried really hard to tie that to Spamburger somehow. And
you know, Miars is out there making a case that
he's a prosecutor and knows how to protect Virginia. But
the attorney general is barely a prosecutor. That isn't the role, right,
And if Virginians are worried about the Trump administration attacking

(01:30:58):
the commonwealth, you don't need somebody who prosecutes things. You
need somebody who defends Virginia against Trump and.

Speaker 2 (01:31:07):
Who file suits who yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:31:10):
And so that's what Jones uh ran on. And you know,
talking about the coattails pulling, I mean, I thought he
was gonna squeak it. I thought that this was like
the chance for a split ticket here in mirs could
could like I thought it out. But this was this was,
by normal measure, a landslide. I mean, he won by
like seven.

Speaker 2 (01:31:32):
And right, there's no way you can condone his text
messages at all. Right, But I thought, what another piece
that was interesting is that the Democratic I guess apparatus
in Virginia did not push him out. I found that
to be very interesting.

Speaker 1 (01:31:48):
There it was because all the early votes had already
been talented.

Speaker 2 (01:31:51):
Oh okay, so that there was just like a logistic wise,
it was.

Speaker 1 (01:31:54):
A logistic impossibility. And you know, if it had happened earlier,
on could have replaced him. Sure maybe, but there wasn't
any reason to by.

Speaker 2 (01:32:03):
Not doing this right, And even if it's logistics like
and again, you don't want to have you don't want
to have your candidate have text messages come out like that. No,
but but do you not pull them? Do you not
pull the candidate and be like, hey, you know what,
we're gonna run, because like, these numbers are kind of
insane that he won the way he did like this,
I thought, just I didn't think it would have been

(01:32:25):
that close.

Speaker 1 (01:32:25):
That's a strong coattail aspect. But also, yeah, you run
it anyway because the coarseness of politics now, right is that?
And right? You know, and and to paraphrase news like
Democrats need to stop showing up the gunfights with feathers.
You know this, it's just like sure, it's distasteful, Sure

(01:32:48):
it's not what we want to do. Sure it's not
the sort of thing that I personally think.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
It's like Al Franken's stepping down right like which again
like that when like again, I see why it happened,
but I don't know, does that happen now?

Speaker 10 (01:33:00):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:33:00):
No, no way in hell, right that doesn't happen now
we we.

Speaker 1 (01:33:05):
It depends what the offense is exactly. If the offense
is specific one, if the offense is sexual harassment, maybe
they still gotta go. But if the offense is being
harsh to the opponent in some way, shape or form,
whether it's totally inappropriate like Jay Jones did, or whether
it's just like Gavin News some trolling Trump with like

(01:33:30):
pictures of him as a baby or telling him to
shut the fuck up, Like yeah, I'm excusing that. That's
a perfectly acceptable way to behave at this point, which
I've been saying on this show for the years.

Speaker 2 (01:33:46):
Again that nothing else.

Speaker 3 (01:33:51):
Didn't do anything.

Speaker 2 (01:33:54):
And I watched that taking that a hole I've never
seen anything like. I was like, wait, he didn't really
like wait, you're unfit, You're unfit for office because he
was too excited. He was too excited. Yeah, that's all
he did. I don't know of him to do anything
a person. Maybe someone will go ahead and dig some share.

(01:34:15):
I don't know of him to do anything else during
that campaign besides that, And I took down his whole
campaign and.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
That whole thing. But we are we are a century
away from that now. I mean, it is exactly. It
is the thing I've been saying on this show for
a long time, so that the Democrats need somebody who's
willing to go out there and call names and act
shitty and and like you know, fight fire with fire
and call him what they want. And I have been
saying it should be me, but I'll take newsome as

(01:34:42):
like a close second. Let's let's go to New Jersey.
Uh briefly, not in real life, that would be terrible
and disgusting. But you're like Jersey, you, like everybody, You're
like the worst parometer for this.

Speaker 2 (01:35:02):
No, I wouldn't, No, you wouldn't. No, I wouldn't. I
just I get a lot with people from Jersey in
Boston and Philly, Chicago, and yeah, these interesting places.

Speaker 1 (01:35:13):
I know why? All right? So in New Jersey, Mikey
Cheryl beat the snot out of Jack Chitarelly. This is
Chitderelly's third time running for this seat. Maybe that tells
him me how to not do that anymore. He lost
by three points to Murphy on the last go round,
and then he now he lost by like twelve or something.

(01:35:37):
I mean, and again, this is the thing where Trump
basically guaranteed Cheryl is going to win because he threatened
the bridge and the tunnel project, and all she had
to do is like run on that. And she's like, hey,
the Republicans want to take away your tunnel, And hey, Jack,

(01:35:58):
are you going to stand up the t up and
tell him no, you you have to build the tunnel.
And he was like no, and so like, well, okay,
open and shut. I mean that's if there's one thing
people in New Jersey care about, it's fucking commuting. Yeah,
and same in northern Virginia.

Speaker 2 (01:36:14):
I mean most people like when you build a new tunnel, okay,
it did you use people like infrastructure, like infrastructure. Nobody
gets upset when you expand now that you get it
upset as you're doing it. Yeah, like this done, and
it's like, oh, I like this road.

Speaker 1 (01:36:31):
When they forget about the inconvenience and the traffic pattern,
then all of the shipping lane closures and.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
The random night. You were stuck for thirty five minutes
because it's stuck on.

Speaker 1 (01:36:41):
The goddamn Wilson Bridge every time they opened it. Yes,
because you do a radio show in green Belt, Maryland
and you live in Virginia. Yeah, and you always get
stuck when they're opening the bridge. Yeah, yeah, I know
that feeling.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
No, I mean Jersey, I mean again a different I
mean again not I don't think they're not That race
wasn't too different, I would say from Virginia, right, but
to the point where they were they still were focused,
like directly on the issues. But I mean, these candidates
aren't like extreme liberal like.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
No, Cheryl again is a blue dog. She's she's got
a military background. She came in in that same class
with Spamberger. She has voted as and behaved as, you know,
a sort of centrist Democrat, and she's you know, she's
not some sort of political ideologs. She's certainly not Mom Donnie.
And and maybe Mom Donnie running across the river helped Cheryl, right,

(01:37:39):
because you know, Democrats who are uncomfortable with something that
progressive could look at Cheryl and say, well, yeah, but
she's not that, so like that's fine. But let's go
across the Hudson. Let's talk about New York City. So, mom,
Donnie won and he barely got over fifty percent, so

(01:38:00):
we don't have to have a runoff or anything like that.
But like beating Cuomo by more than what Sleewa took
up right right, that tells you a lot. And you know,
this guy, he's got this this incredible that picture up again,
all right. I just when you look at this, who
would you think is the socialist? Yeah? Right? The guy

(01:38:23):
in the red beret looking like Shae Gevara.

Speaker 2 (01:38:28):
Tell me one man, he looks like the Socialists. What
a crazy race? I mean, I I am. It was
clear he was gonna win because I was in New
York when he won the primary that night. I was
there and I was like, and that was shocking to
me because I haven't been following something, don't follow neo politics.

(01:38:50):
But I saw he won and I was like, wait,
what coalition did he put together to win? And it's
it's kind of an interesting coalition.

Speaker 1 (01:38:59):
There it is. And that's kind of the thing to
talk about here. It's also a youth vote thing, right.
So Mamdani's got an interesting background. He was born in Uganda.
His parents are from India. His mom is Hindu, his
dad is Muslim. He was a bad rapper as a kid.

(01:39:20):
His mom is like a like a film director or
something like that, something like that, like maybe one an
oscar or something. And so you know, he has all
this like talent, and he's incredibly media savvy, and he
was so smart at leveraging socials and interviews and getting

(01:39:42):
all this earned media and stuff. And he was incredibly
disciplined on message. God, he didn't you talk about a
dream he I think that they counted up the average
of he could get back to a message on affordability
in less than two sentences, no matter what.

Speaker 2 (01:40:01):
Anybody else watching Carvel talk about this, and he's like,
I do communication classes. I would this is who you
need to watch about staying on message.

Speaker 1 (01:40:09):
Yeah, it's it's incredible. I mean he is. He is
on message all the time. Now, will he be able
to govern to achieve some of the things that he
campaigned on. Probably not.

Speaker 2 (01:40:20):
If he does one. If he gets one thing done,
I think that's huge.

Speaker 1 (01:40:26):
But I think it's actually worth bringing that up because
part of the argument against Mom Donnie was the stuff
he's promising is kind of fanciful and like not really
doable or requires all the need to get involved or whatever,
which some of that that's true, that's true. I think
it's all true. I think everybody who voted for it
knew that and didn't care, because what they're voting for

(01:40:48):
is what they want to have happened. And what we've
talked about on this show several times is just because
it's impractical doesn't mean you shouldn't vote for it. If
that's what you want to do, you know, and it's
probably not gonna happen, but to have somebody pushing in
the general direction that you want it to go is
what you're voting for. And the other big criticism against

(01:41:12):
him is like, you know, oh, New York has a
large Jewish population, how's he going to do with the Jews?
Apparently pretty well, especially amongst younger, progressive Jewish folks who
are reliable Democratic voters. Let's just be clear about that.

Speaker 2 (01:41:26):
I mean, the win to win the primary alone, like,
you don't get a lot of Jewish volks, you gotta
get a lot of Jewish votes. And it seems like
there was a pivot, not in like an extreme pivot,
but a pivot in the sense of like, hey, no,
once he wins the primary, no, I want to hear
from everybody, right, and hear from the people who don't
necessarily who maybe I've even offended in the past. He

(01:41:49):
didn't run from any of that.

Speaker 1 (01:41:50):
Also, mayor of New York doesn't get to set US
Israel policy.

Speaker 2 (01:41:55):
And so you can talk national politics or international politics,
which both of which the current the current mayor is got.

Speaker 1 (01:42:04):
For me, he's let's not talk about Eric Adams in
international anything exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:42:10):
And then the the CUOMO is clearly like when when
you when you have that many groups that form together
against one person, I mean that speaks in volumes.

Speaker 1 (01:42:23):
That tells you that that person's got got a message
that people are tuned into. And and you know, I
mean the only thing international about Eric Adams is his
bank account and international, mister, mister international. He kind of
like is a factor in this too, because you know,
he's he didn't run as an incumbent. He was a

(01:42:43):
toxic incumbent. He's wildly unpopular. Nobody likes this guy, not
on the left, right or center. He wasn't really that
great at a mayor and loves him. He's great for memes. Yeah,
but he I mean, he wasn't great at mayoring U
and was corrupt as fuck.

Speaker 2 (01:43:01):
I mean, if you if you look at the mayor
of the city as being a person who's only for
self and siphoning all all the city, he's a great mayor.

Speaker 1 (01:43:11):
Yeah right. He reminds me very much of Mayor Quimby
in the Simpsons, like and that he is entirely corrupt
and self interested, you know, like all fat Tony, you
promised me goat Ohio, you know, on the milk, and
it's like rats, you know, what do you mean your
milk and rats? You know, it's he does really feel

(01:43:33):
like Mayor Quimby character. So like Mamdani is running on affordability,
basic good governance, no corruption, and that's it. And and
like look at who they brought in to run against him, Cuomo.
You're talking about corruption and scandal. This guy's loaded with it.

(01:43:54):
It was a line that had what it was.

Speaker 2 (01:43:58):
It was something like kills Grammys and snatches panties or something.
It was something crazy and hates Cuomo first.

Speaker 1 (01:44:09):
Oh, yeah, each other for decades.

Speaker 2 (01:44:11):
Let's start there.

Speaker 8 (01:44:13):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:44:14):
Thinking about a lot of the.

Speaker 1 (01:44:15):
People who voted for Mom Donnie had voted for Cuomo
several other times right as governor. Yeah, and and he
was like a you know, a scion of big New
York machine democratic politics.

Speaker 2 (01:44:28):
He could hang his hat on certain things. The Guardia
he could hang his head on. There's like a lot
of big projects that he could write.

Speaker 1 (01:44:33):
He's a goddamn Cuomo. I mean the technic Vy bridge,
you know, and right there's a bridge. He can do
all of those things. However, however, he's not Mario Cuomo.
And he's not Chris Cuomo who also basically got run
out of his job. He's Andrew Cuomo who got run
out of his job twice. And terrible Kennedy. I mean,

(01:44:59):
just he's like the Winsome Earl series of New York.
Just terrible, terrible choice. California redistricting. There's like two things
I want to mention about this. One is obviously the
margin here and that it won like in this crazy
two to one ratio. I mean that is two to one.

Speaker 2 (01:45:21):
And there's a different poll out here where people didn't
actually believe that this should happen.

Speaker 1 (01:45:26):
That's what I want to talk about. Percent in the
exit polls said they should have independent commissions. They don't
want this, nobody wants this, but they voted for it
because they see it as an existential necessity. And they
are right until we get to a national commission on

(01:45:49):
redistricting or some law that forces the states to do
that by commission, which again constitutionally tough, might require amendment
because the states are supposed to draw their districts and
the FEDS really can't tell them how to do that. Well,
and considering that they've struck down all these other pieces
of the voting rights at which involve the FEDS telling

(01:46:11):
the states how to run elections, and they've done it
on that ground, I don't see how you can really
get there from here unless you have an amendment. But
we should have independent commissions. We should have fair representation,
we should have more competitive districts. We shouldn't have jerrymandering.
The people in California are very clear about that. They
don't like this at all. I think a big reason

(01:46:32):
they were willing to vote for it is because it
says it's temporary.

Speaker 2 (01:46:35):
Right. Yes, they trade.

Speaker 1 (01:46:37):
If we get a few cycles in and Republican states
continue to jerrymanner or threaten to, I can see this
getting extended because.

Speaker 2 (01:46:48):
There is no choice counterweight.

Speaker 1 (01:46:52):
And California does see themselves much in the same way
that Texas does as you know, the big heavy in
this fight, which they they are, and and and you know,
they kind of got to take one for the team here.
If it's like against their moral position, it's still like
advances the overall moral position of we would like women

(01:47:15):
to have rights or whatever, you know, Like that's the
way if you ask all of these people who voted
yes on the redissecting plan in California, you're gonna get
a variety of answers, but they mostly are going to
break down along the I want X groups rights protected,
and this is the only way to do it right.
I want I want the right to choose protected. I

(01:47:37):
want you know, LGBT people protected. I want minorities protected.
I want good basic governance like I want trade protected,
like those things. That's what this comes down to. And
you can come up with your reasons, but apparently on
a two to one margin, they all came up with
their reasons. Uh quick one but important one. The Pennsylvania

(01:48:00):
Supreme Court Pennsylvania is an interesting system for their Supreme Court.
It's actually one I think is a pretty good idea.
You get appointed to the Supreme Court much in the
same way that the national the you know, the the U. S.
Supreme Court works. But there's a referendum and after you've
been on the bench for ten years, there is a

(01:48:22):
straight yes or no vote on should you stay on
the bench, And if the answer is no, then governor
has to point somebody new. If the answer is yes,
then you get to stick arette till another ten years.
And you know, people say they people ought to do
this for marriages. You know, you should have to like renewer. Yeah,
I'm not a big fan of that because I probably lose.

(01:48:43):
But ah, but in any case, like they all three
Democrat appointed justices prevailed and got a yes vote or
resounding yes vote. They won by a lot. And this
really matters because Pennsylvania is one of these states where
Democrats outnumber Republicans in total registration, but Republicans have gerrymandered

(01:49:09):
their way into control of the state House and into
the congressional representation in ways that are not numerically representative
of the actual state of Pennsylvania or commonwealth of this case.
Wisconsin's another one, Michigan's another one. You know, there's several

(01:49:31):
examples of this. These folks staying on the bench is
going to be the bulwark because there have been cases
that have gone up to the Pennsylvania Supreme Court revolving
around elections that they have decided correctly and have protected
the voting rights and representation of the people of Pennsylvania.
So it's small potatoes to the national view, but it's

(01:49:54):
going to matter. And if we learned anything from the
last twenty years that the Republicans have been extremely sick
cessful at playing the short game and learning the rules
of the minutia, getting the county election commissioner seats working.

Speaker 2 (01:50:10):
And they figured out they were like, we know what
we're doing.

Speaker 1 (01:50:13):
Yeah, get get state government, redraw the lines in state
government to protect your control of state government, and then
use those to redraw the lines for your congressional representation.
And I mean, it's a pretty brilliant playbook. To be
perfectly honest, it's dastardly, but the only way to beat

(01:50:35):
it is you got to play that same game too.
And the Democrats have failed to really pay attention at
some of these other levels of government. And this is
a good example of where okay, eyes back on the ball.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
I need someone like vote who went into a cabin
after Donald Trump loss, to like strategize what he's doing now.
I need that. I need that on the Democratic sides.
I don't know who's in the cabin right now figuring
out whatever project a call or whatever the hell you want,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:51:03):
Project tip catter. Don't you listen to this show. We've
been telling everybody what to do for fucking years.

Speaker 2 (01:51:09):
I think you could sell the I think you could
sell people on constitutional amendments. I think you could get
I think you could sell a lot of people on
that if you if you're packaged it correctly, because that's
clearly where we need to get to. If it needs
to start there. This whole thing needs to be it
needs to be. It needs to not be rewritten. We
need to add more amendments to it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
Let's not Yeah, look who's out there rewriting things right now.

Speaker 2 (01:51:35):
The states do go in and I mean I think
at the states do a decent job with their state.

Speaker 1 (01:51:40):
Constitution, but they're always amending them.

Speaker 2 (01:51:42):
They're always amending them. So like that same thing could
happen with the original document. Let's just be careful.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
We don't need Alabama amending things.

Speaker 2 (01:51:54):
I mean no, I mean no, no, but maybe we
do need Maybe you do need Certain people.

Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
In Alabama want Birmingham amending. Yeah, not the rest of
Alabama above or below the Black Belt. Okay, all right.
Georgia Public Service Commission. Two state wide races, two Democrats won.
Hasn't happened since the early two thousands. For that race. Again,

(01:52:23):
it looks like small potatoes, but it is the backbone
of future campaigns. It is the infrastructure on which these
things are built. And it didn't involve Stacy Abrams. And
so you know, not that I have anything negative to
say about her, but she doesn't win. So we got
to move on and we gotta like find new leaders,

(01:52:43):
other ways that she can work. She can raise money, insane,
go raise money, Stacy, and she does. And right, trashy
romance novels, we love them. And then, of course, the
very predictable Trump reaction to all of this, which is
to say, I wasn't on the ballot. That's why these
people lost. They never came to kiss my ass enough.

(01:53:05):
That's why I didn't endorse him. Uh, it was rigged
in California. It was all the mail in voting. Like
one of the reporters asked Levitt about that and she's like, oh, yeah,
mail in voting is the problem. And she was like, well,
I'm from Montana. We've had only mail in voting for
like however long and Republicans keep winning that stage. Are
those votes rigged too? And she's like that up, yeah, next, yeah,

(01:53:28):
next question.

Speaker 2 (01:53:29):
So it's clear that he's clear he feels the Republicans
are the blame for the shutdown, though it's clear that
it's clear of.

Speaker 1 (01:53:36):
That even Yeah. Well, and he's moving that way too
in terms of what he's doing to try to, you know,
flip the script on it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:45):
This man was talking about getting rid of the philibuster.
They don't tempt me with a good time. Yeah, right,
what I was like, wait, first of all, I know
one thing that you know, we were thinking about ways
to break the fever pitch of Donald Trump, the Phillips
to removal might be one where Republicans wake up be.

Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Like whoa wait what you know? This heritage meltdown has
caused some of them, including Ted Cruz and Lindsey Graham,
to be like, all right, guys, the Nazi stuff's gotta go. Yeah,
I saw him condemn h Tucker Carlson, and yeah, I
mean they came right out and said it. And which
now two weeks from now will they be back. I

(01:54:26):
don't know, but yeah, I mean the reaction was pretty
much what I expected. And you know, he he kind
of hinted it that he was going to try to
disrupt this with like putting monitors in California or whatever.
He thinks he's too busy.

Speaker 2 (01:54:43):
He's too busy building ballrooms and traveling around the globe
and doing getting frowns in Korea. Yeah, like again, there
are elections where he could have helped, Like he could
have really like shout out to Korea.

Speaker 1 (01:54:59):
Keep him occupied. Who's the next ones? You know, like
let's let's find some bang up travel agent and just
tell them to book him on a world tour and
and then have Chops gets ready for him in every place,
so he just gets, you know, a nice little gift
everywhere he goes and keep him out of here.

Speaker 2 (01:55:20):
Tearing down the East Wing during the government shut down
during huge election. I just don't think those.

Speaker 1 (01:55:25):
Build a golden ballroom.

Speaker 2 (01:55:27):
They don't work well. I don't think they work well.
When you told all your your your base, and not
even your base, the people who are other people voted
for you that you were going to bring prices there.
Guess what's not happening?

Speaker 1 (01:55:39):
And then he threw it. Uh anybody party wow, wile
food stamps were cutting off.

Speaker 2 (01:55:48):
Hey, he got the DJ though he only throws parties
to DJ's clear, that's what that's all he does.

Speaker 1 (01:55:54):
Right, he does. He loves to play what's that that
fucking guy? Uh? I don't know the blind opera guy?
And uh and y M those looks like his songs.
It's what a terrible DJ he is. We can't get
the rights anything else. All right, here's what we're gonna do.

(01:56:15):
We're gonna take a break.

Speaker 2 (01:56:17):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:56:17):
When we come back, we're gonna do the third half
of the show, which we're gonna try to do at wrap.
Brian's gonna be so mad, but but it's short. The
rest of the show is short, and and it's gonna
be fine, and we're gonna go fast. It'll be great.
All Right, We're gonna take a break. You're listening to
Chip Chat on Beltwy radio and beyond Sweep.

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turn the Frost.

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Crap.

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Funny, I'm gonna.

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Say real slow for.

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Your life, freaking frogs.

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I don't like a frogs, frogs, frogs.

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Freaking sob crop. Won't you break of frogs?

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It's funny. I'm gonna say real slow for.

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You from.

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Bord.

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Leftist ass, I pourn upon the cop.

Speaker 7 (01:57:45):
I will, I will do your assor.

Speaker 4 (01:57:49):
Leftist ass, I pourn upon the copy.

Speaker 1 (01:57:53):
I will eat you.

Speaker 7 (01:57:54):
I will do your ass. My children aren't going hungry.

Speaker 1 (01:57:58):
I'll do it.

Speaker 4 (01:57:58):
I'll break your blood. And I'm starting to think about
having to eat my neighbors. You think I like size
of us, gonna hall of us by shame, drop his
ass up, size of.

Speaker 7 (01:58:09):
Us, then a hall of us by shame, toop.

Speaker 2 (01:58:12):
Toop, chop top.

Speaker 4 (01:58:12):
I will eat your leftist ass. I born upon the cob,
I will, I will keep your ass Nord left his ass.
I corn up on the copy.

Speaker 1 (01:58:26):
I will eat you.

Speaker 7 (01:58:27):
I will keep your ass A barbecue your ass flat.

Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
I will look your ass up so fast. I'm telling him, well, I.

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Killed the girl off. Fact.

Speaker 2 (01:58:37):
Baby, you think Christ would eat.

Speaker 7 (01:58:39):
Somebody, he would never do nothing. I will am ready
to hang them up and cut them and skin him
and chop him up.

Speaker 1 (01:58:44):
You know what I'm really I will leave your leftist ass.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
I corn up on the copy.

Speaker 7 (01:58:51):
I will, I will keep your ass.

Speaker 1 (01:58:54):
I will deep nor leftist ass like a horn.

Speaker 7 (01:58:57):
On the cob Rain. I will eat you. I will,
I will, I will eat you.

Speaker 1 (01:59:19):
That's why I want the globalis to know I will
eat your ass first.

Speaker 2 (01:59:23):
I swear to God, it's the last thing.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
I also want the globalists to know that this is
chip Chat. Welcome back to chip Chat. I'm your's chip
with me is tez. I still haven't figured out how
to barbecue anything flat, but that's not the adjective I
would ever use.

Speaker 2 (01:59:43):
Chain.

Speaker 1 (01:59:44):
Yeah, I guess you want to give your your little
uh god?

Speaker 2 (01:59:50):
Yes, oh sorry, sorry, that's the original video that sided
us all up. Yeah, please go ahead and donate to
the Sandy Hook Promise dot org. Uh So, it's kind
of like you know what we're gonna see. There's a
tree on this here. This is like carbon credits, right, Yeah,
we we play a terrible video from a terrible man

(02:00:13):
who doesn't believe that a bunch of young children were
shot in their classroom. He believes it's a false flag operation.
We play those videos, and then we tell folks who
go smash the donate button at Sandy Hook Promise dot
org to make ourselves to make me specifically feel a

(02:00:33):
little bit better, and laughing at that heinous man that
is Alex Jones.

Speaker 1 (02:00:38):
Yes, we're buying our penance exactly, sort of like indulgences
in the Catholic Church. Yeah, and send all you on
if you can write a check, it'll get you in.

Speaker 2 (02:00:49):
It's not gonna get me in if this is gonna
get me anywhere, but I do, please, I just feel
better in the morning after I laugh at these.

Speaker 1 (02:00:56):
I don't know if you and I are like eligible
to go to heaven.

Speaker 2 (02:01:00):
I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (02:01:01):
It's like several reasons. All right, Now we've come to
the party show. It's called the Run Now, and this
is where I tell you about some stuff that's gone
out in the news. If we were professionals, it would
sound a little something like this, Thanks way to go.

Speaker 15 (02:01:19):
From Beltway Raio Beyond Washington, DC. Emmy nominated TV news
man and just bona fide sexual beast Jase Scott Smith.
And this is the part of the show where I
tell some stuff about the well, maybe not me, but
somebody else is gonna tell some stuff about what's happening
in the news.

Speaker 2 (02:01:34):
So what's going on in the news, fellas?

Speaker 1 (02:01:37):
Thanks Yang. I don't think we've been on since Michigan
beat Michigan State. So hey go Blue, love you buddy,
all right. This one is called even gorsicic even gorse,
which I think we did predict that when we talked
about this, yeah previously, So so what are we talking about.

(02:02:01):
We're talking about that. The AEPA tariffs are got hearing
in front of the Supreme Court on Wednesday in which
the Solicitor General and the Government made the argument that
this statute that gives the president the ability to do
certain things in response to international emergencies that does not

(02:02:24):
include the word tax or tariff in it at all,
gives him the right to tax and tariff things.

Speaker 2 (02:02:30):
Flimsy argument.

Speaker 1 (02:02:31):
Flimsy argument at best. The opposing side was all of
the states and all of the businesses, argued by one
mister Neil Katial, formerly Obama Solicitor General, and basically making
the case that like the law doesn't say he can

(02:02:54):
do this at all, and granting him this power without
the law saying so would certainly make a mockery of
the idea of textualism, but it would also really be
a problem for the future. Right that, if you were
to allow the president to basically interpret laws to mean

(02:03:15):
whatever he wants to do whatever he wants, Congress doesn't
need to exist.

Speaker 2 (02:03:21):
And Congress is just giving way their power.

Speaker 1 (02:03:24):
Well that's where Goresach comes in, right, Okay, So the
justices they ask a bunch of questions after the opening
statements from the various sides, and usually the court watchers
are trying to tell where the justices are coming down
on the issue based on the type of questioning and
the way that they ask the questions. You know, is

(02:03:45):
Kagan more sarcastic than usual for example, hard to imagine,
She's pretty sarcastic. Is KBJ concocting a really long hypothetic
to ask a very simple question? Probably?

Speaker 16 (02:04:05):
Okay, the liberal justices were originalists and us Yeah, so
the the three really didn't matter, we kind of, I mean,
we obviously know where neighbor Clarence and Sam and Alito
are on this, which is the paid for Trump can't
do anything he wants.

Speaker 1 (02:04:24):
They don't care and beer can Brett had already said
essentially that you know, when this got sent back to
the appellate court, like you know, in the rocket docket
ruling that allowed this to continue while it was working
its way up, he was like, yeah, this seems like

(02:04:44):
a thing the president can do. Sure, so we can
count the three of them out, But we do need
to know where Gorsich, acb and Roberts lie on this.
And Gorsuch was very clear in his questioning about some
of this. And you know, he does claim to be

(02:05:05):
this textualist. There have been instances where he is like, no,
this is what it says on the thing. Unless it
says this, we're not doing that, like when he gave
all of Oklahoma back to the you know, Indian tribes.
But he asked some simple questions. If Congress can hand
off its tariff power to the president, what would prohibit

(02:05:25):
Congress from just abdicating all responsibility to regulate foreign commerce
or for that matter, declare war or anything else to
the president? Of course at ass and the answer is
not good. If Congress decides tomorrow we're tired of all
this legislative business, We're just gonna hand it all off
to the president. What would stop Congress from doing that,

(02:05:47):
which Congress has kind of attempted to do.

Speaker 2 (02:05:49):
They've done that.

Speaker 1 (02:05:51):
Yeah, they're like, yo, legislating is hard, we don't want
to do that. They continue to see power to the executive.
The argument here is, and to Gorstach's credit, is Article
one says no, no go, like you gotta do it.

Speaker 17 (02:06:07):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (02:06:07):
Sour who was the Solicitor General, said that Congress could
not go that far. That would really be an abdication,
not a delegation.

Speaker 9 (02:06:15):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:06:15):
I don't know what when you delegate enough? Yeah, of
your specific duties.

Speaker 1 (02:06:22):
Yeah, I think that's really the word to think about
it here. It's not necessarily power. It's more like duty
or responsibility. Congress's job is to regulate taxation, to impose taxes,
to write things. And if we care a tax, yes,
and if we look at the history of why the
United States is not England or not Britain, right, it's

(02:06:44):
about a tariff. Yes. And it starts there with the
with the Boston Tea Party and all that stuff, and
the reaction to that. The idea of the capricious imposition
of taxation by a monarch is so infuriating to the

(02:07:04):
Framers that they specifically and early on delegate that with
an Article one, they specifically vest that power in the
least unitary branch, you know, the one that is made
up of the most people, the one that is mostly
directly elected, the one that is mostly directly responsive to

(02:07:28):
the people, because being taxed piss them off like a lot.
And so you got to really mean it, and you
got to really have your shit together and really be
able to convince everybody else in Congress that that's a
good idea, or you don't get to do it. President
doesn't have to convince anybody. Just has to convince themselves
this is the right thing to do, and then they

(02:07:50):
can do it. So Gorsich seemed pretty nonplussed. ACB's big
question was like, well, what if the government has to
give back all this money, Like, how would they do that?
It'd be a huge mess. Yeah, it would be a mess.
Uh if they gave it back to the businesses that
paid it, how would they make sure that they maybe

(02:08:12):
refunded it to the customers who paid a higher price
for things. It's no real good way to do that.
Katya was like, you could just make this a going
forward thing and just have to eat it, you know,
like on what happened, which seems like a reasonable I mean,
there's no.

Speaker 2 (02:08:25):
Good the other way to get the United States governments
who raise money, they're going to issue bonds and I
don't know, I don't know who's going to buy these
things because what kind of but someone will.

Speaker 1 (02:08:35):
Well there is a market for T bills, I mean
tells us about it every day.

Speaker 2 (02:08:39):
Yeah, I mean that they are selling them, yeah, soon
as you do.

Speaker 1 (02:08:44):
But it so that was that was her question. Roberts
uh seemed, you know, kind of like I think Roberts
is pretty uh, pretty good on the on the know
on this. So I really do think that this is
going to end up on like a six' three the
other direction than what we're used. To i'm not going

(02:09:08):
to bet on, it but it's a precedent, question, Right if.

Speaker 2 (02:09:14):
It's bigger than it's bigger than the, terror it's bigger
than the.

Speaker 1 (02:09:17):
Tariff that's the. Thing. Right if they, say, okay this is,
fine it violates their previous stuff about, Textualism it violates
their stuff about The Major questions, doctrine which they used
to strike down a lot Of biden's executive. Orders yep,
Uh and it violates the basic understanding of co equal,

(02:09:40):
branches which they are one of. Them. Yeah, well they've
been willing to give up a lot of their power,
too they have if but.

Speaker 2 (02:09:50):
They've almost wanted to keep the power to make those decisions.

Speaker 1 (02:09:53):
Though, yes, yes that's.

Speaker 2 (02:09:55):
The that's the crazy.

Speaker 1 (02:09:56):
Part, yes if If trump prevails in, this there is
no check whatsoever on him randomly interpreting law was, about
uh the executive branch regulating paint colors to mean that
he can tell everybody what color to paint their. HOUSES
i mean it could it could be. That, yeah that's,

(02:10:17):
Crazy it could be. THAT i, mean that's stupid and.
Capricious but that's well within the bounds of the way
we talk about this. Guy so just you, know stay.
TUNED i THINK i think the right side is going
to happen, here and that's gonna be a big deal
Because trump is so vested in these tariffs and this one's.

Speaker 2 (02:10:36):
Not Coming this isn't coming out In july. Either this
will be Come, no this.

Speaker 1 (02:10:40):
Is coming, fast right because both sides ask for an expedited,
Answer so we'll probably get this in like a. Month, Yeahs,
yeah so that'll be.

Speaker 2 (02:10:50):
Interesting want for somebody we don't want BUT i mean
listening to the listening to the arguments and listen to the.
RESPONSES i, mean this feels like the first time we'll
see this court pushed back on the president.

Speaker 1 (02:11:06):
On something. Major on a few other, things but this is.

Speaker 2 (02:11:11):
Huge this is.

Speaker 1 (02:11:12):
Huge this is.

Speaker 2 (02:11:13):
Huge so we'll.

Speaker 1 (02:11:14):
See speaking of, huge let's go To test's home country Of. Britain. Yay,
so uh, no back In, britain as we reference in the, Headlines,
uh this guy Called andrew Mount baton windsor you know.

Speaker 2 (02:11:30):
HIM i do Know Andrew. Mountains what a.

Speaker 1 (02:11:35):
Name, yeah he was better off as a, prince but,
anyway he ain't a prince. Anymore. Uh and there's another
wrinkle to. This turns out he And. Epstein oh, yeah
there's a lot of. Wrinkles it turns out he And
epstein were like still communicating long after he said that

(02:11:58):
they broke. Up, essentially he took this trip To New
york at some point and was like people were, like,
hey why did you go to See epstein right after
he got out of, Prison and he was, like, oh
that was to tell him we're not friends. Anymore it's, like, oh,
okay sure. Guy and then it turns out he was
emailing him all time, afterwards still hanging. Out so Several

(02:12:25):
democratic members of The House Oversight committee TOLD bbc That
andrews should voluntarily come testify Before. Congress not. Happening not,
Happening what are we talking?

Speaker 2 (02:12:34):
About that's JUST i, mean first of, all LIKE i
just wonder, if like, yo The framers and The King,
michael they can imagine that.

Speaker 1 (02:12:48):
The congress of The United states would demand a member
of the monarchy come and testify about raping young.

Speaker 2 (02:12:58):
Girls, yeah, crazy just.

Speaker 1 (02:13:02):
Uh, yeah WELL i remember that well at the surrender At.

Speaker 18 (02:13:05):
Yorktown, Yeah washington was, like and, furthermore, right if one
of you creepy ass royals makes friends with one of
our businessmen to do some more creepy ass, ship.

Speaker 1 (02:13:20):
The connorss is gonna want to know about, it and
we're gonna we're gonna send you a. Subpoena and Corn
wallace was, like, yeah, yeah just let me go. Home
i'll sign, anything.

Speaker 2 (02:13:31):
Please SO i can go. Home. Yeah we didn't want
to fight.

Speaker 1 (02:13:34):
This we don't even want to be, here my stupid.
Columnists we're busy fighting The, french all. Right so a
bunch of, representatives including one of the newer ones From
Northern virginia. REGION Sua supermadium got involved and was, like,
hey you, know we want to we want to see.
This Christian murthy Of illinois And Stephen Lynch massachusetts all

(02:13:59):
kind of jumped didn't and they were Like, rokanna of
course has been sort of leading the charge on this
from The democratic. Side i'd be interested to see If
massey signs onto this. Too you could see it MAYBE.
Mtg you, know like there's some momentum. There she's she's
like she they asked her About. QAnon she's, LIKE i

(02:14:23):
GOT i got. TAKEN i WAS i was a, victim you,
KNOW i GOT i got. HOES i, mean it is.
Possible she is not that. Smart she could have, been
Although i've been told by PEOPLE i know on The
hill that she just plays. Stupid she's she's actually pretty,
smart that's what they. SAY i don't, Know, no, Yeah
i've heard the. Same i'm just, saying you, know shoe

(02:14:43):
fits all. Right this section is called Lawn. Onions it's
a lot Like law And, order but it smells. Better
this is just a quick. Story it highlights the extreme
competence of this. Administration i'm just gonna read it real,
quick if you don't mind. Police THE fbi On tuesday

(02:15:06):
fired four agents who worked on the investigation during The
biden administration related To Donald trump's alleged attempt to overturn
the twenty twenty let's drop the allegend attempt to overturn
the twenty twenty presidential. Elecgend he's still attempting to do, that,
Right according to people familiar with the, MATTER Fbi Director
Cash pttel had initially fired those agents On, monday but

(02:15:30):
after pushback from get ready for this incredible, Sentence district
Of COLUMBIA Us Attorney Janine, Piro, yeah that's still real and,
others he reinstated them that same day Because piero needed,
them and Then petel fired them Again tuesday.

Speaker 2 (02:15:53):
Morning so you're.

Speaker 1 (02:15:55):
Fired wait a, minute don't, leave you're. Fired pierro attempted
to save at least some of the agents because they
were working on other cases that were important to her,
office because of course that's how THE fbi, works, right
they'll all just do one, thing they all do several,
things and you, know it turns out they were doing

(02:16:16):
something she cared. About the firings were the latest in
a purge that has gutted The Washington field office of
some of its most experienced agents and hurt morale, shocking
according to the people familiar with the, office meaning the
people who just got. Fired some of the fired agents
were in supervisory, roles and others had no longer worked

(02:16:37):
in that, office but were agents in other field. Offices
they weren't even. There they were, working like In, nebraska
and it was, like, oh you Prosecuted january. Sixth it's, like,
WELL i, YEAH i collected all the video tape of
it and handed in. It you're. Fired shouldn't have done, That.

Speaker 2 (02:16:57):
And NOW i need someone to collect new videotape AND
i don't know of.

Speaker 1 (02:17:00):
THEM i, mean the videotape was still, there you. Know it's,
like these guys aren't the. Problem it's the thing that
are the.

Speaker 2 (02:17:06):
Problem the jobs that these people, do they're still there
to be.

Speaker 1 (02:17:10):
Done you don't blame the trash man who picks up
the trash for their being. Trash he didn't make the,
trash he just picked it. Up it was gonna be there.
Regardless it's gonna be there again if you fire, him
the trash is still gonna be. There And i'm not
saying That january sixth attackers are. Trash that's not nice to. Trash,
okay let's get to the big story here In, washington which,

(02:17:34):
is of course Why i'm wearing my shirt with the.
Flag Sean, Dunn Air force veteran worked for The department
Of justice as, paralegal a fan of pink. Shirts without

(02:17:55):
one night hanging out and a bud of federal agents
in body armor and tactical gear with big. Guns started
like forming up to go bust up some bars or,
whatever don't, know shout him in, out got a little,

(02:18:17):
hungry stop, by got him a, sandwich walks past these,
fascists as he described, them and is, like, YO i
don't like that you're, here and he starts letting them.
Know you. Know maybe not the calmest, way but he
tells him to get fucked and get out of his,

(02:18:38):
city a sentiment many people. Should in his protest and
protected speech, rights he chose to forego his Expensive i'm
guessing just based on the part of town that he
purchased it in sandwich and use it as a method of.

(02:19:00):
Protest he hurled his sandwich at very close, range which
is the best way to injure somebody with a. Sandwich,
yeah not even enough room to like cock your arm
back and throw. It flings the sandwich at the chest
of what's this guy's name? Here Gregory, larimore who was

(02:19:27):
fully armed and wearing a bulletproof vest bulletproof, vests, bulletproof
not mustard, proof it's not bullets but not, condiments flings
it at. Him the sandwich bounces off his bulletproof vest.

Speaker 3 (02:19:50):
And the.

Speaker 1 (02:19:54):
Fully armed bulletproof Vest Gregory Gregory larimer charges out Mister
dunn as, like come here and done books.

Speaker 2 (02:20:03):
It in his, sandals in his, sandals.

Speaker 1 (02:20:06):
Outruns a bunch of the uh what do they call?
Him the gravy, seals gets back to his, apartment. Locksador
fuck you. Guys they go and get a warrant for
assault on a police officer with a, weapon come back

(02:20:27):
with twenty guys and a film, crew bust into his,
apartment arrest him and film the hole. Ordeal that's what
happened yesterday began his. Trial now that happened several months.
Ago why did the trial only start, yesterday you might, ask?

Speaker 2 (02:20:50):
Why, Tes BECAUSE i assume you'd have to get a,
jury you'd have to see the jury for this.

Speaker 1 (02:20:58):
Trial, ah first have to get an.

Speaker 2 (02:21:00):
Indictment oh That's oh that's a good. Point no one
would get to know indict didn't.

Speaker 1 (02:21:05):
Think, Yeah Janine piro's office took a felony indictment or
charge to the grand jury four times to try to
charge Mister dunn with a felony of assaulting an, officer
and four times the grand jury was, like, nah just

(02:21:28):
not enough evidence to even support bringing the, indictment. Right
so she's, like, ah not gonna stop, me and uh she, said,
Fine we'll charge him with misdemeanor assault or obstructing Or
it's like this long list of things that are all
the same misdemeanor which doesn't require a grand, jury and

(02:21:52):
you can charge anybody with, that including up to apparently
A saalami. Sandwich so they Charge Sean dunn with h
demeanor assault on the police, officer and the trial, begins
well it kind of. Begins the judge is, like this

(02:22:12):
is the most open and Shutcase i've ever seen in
my entire. Life seats a, jury an actual jury of
twelve OF dc residents plus, Alternates so there are twenty
people who could have been at, work but they are
instead getting paid fifteen dollars a day to listen to this,

(02:22:36):
story and they. Proceed THE cbp Agent Gregory, larimore who
again was fully, armed wearing a bulletproof vest and was
with almost twenty other law enforcement, officers according to the court,
records said on the, stand sandwich kind of exploded all

(02:23:02):
over my. Uniform it smelled of onions and. Mustard, now,
look this is not really material to the, case but
good choice on the. Condiments sounds like a good. Sandwich i'm.
IN i would like half of it if you don't
need the whole. Thing defense Attorney Sabrina shroff questioned that.

(02:23:27):
Testimony during cross she displayed a photo of the sandwich
lying on the, ground still wrapped up in its.

Speaker 2 (02:23:35):
Wrapper, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:23:38):
In, fact that sandwich hasn't exploded at, all she. Said
larimore maintained, that quote mustard and condiments on my uniform
and an onion hanging from my radio. Antenna that's what he.
Experienced that's the. Assault imagine that we are in a
court of law arguing over whether a sandwich that is

(02:23:59):
fully wrapp and photographed on the, ground a sandwich is
photographed on the, ground of whether that has in fact
exploded on a bulletproof vest wearing federal. Agent it's not a.

Speaker 2 (02:24:13):
Weapon it is not a.

Speaker 1 (02:24:14):
Weapon it is barely even a. MEAL i, mean did
he have? Chips was there a? Drink how much of
the combo was?

Speaker 2 (02:24:24):
His he used to throw tomatoes at people on. STAGE
i never heard of. Them get in charge of the.

Speaker 1 (02:24:29):
Salt, well you'll be happy to know, that as of
this show going to, Air Sean dunn is a free
man walking around in his neighborhood in the district Of,
columbia probably waving this flag because the jury very quickly
delivered a verdict of not. Guilty several of the jurors

(02:24:52):
apparently wore pink shirts to their event, today maybe symbolizing
the pink shirts that he, wore the pink shirt that
he was wearing at the, time and at least one
of them gave the defense a, like good. Job this is.
Ridiculous but this is where we. Are dissent has been

(02:25:13):
protected once. Again it is your right to. Dissent you
have a free, Speech you have A First. Amendment you
should use. It maybe don't say all The nazi stuff
like The republicans are currently, doing but right you have
the right to say. It you can say. It there
may be, consequences but you, know maybe. DON'T i mean you,

(02:25:33):
can but don't be a shit at. All, Right, really
there's like two last things. Here one of them is a.
VIDEO i just want to, LIKE i just want to
play this very quick clip and just get your thoughts
on what we're witnessing here in this. Clip, brian do

(02:25:56):
you do you have it? Available we're, seeing we're. Checking
he fell. Asleep oh here it is.

Speaker 14 (02:26:06):
All, Right shay one of my colleagues from My senate, Office.

Speaker 2 (02:26:13):
Senator John, kennedy gentleman.

Speaker 14 (02:26:15):
From Talk, today Mister, president about.

Speaker 1 (02:26:20):
OWLS i think you need to move it out to
like minutes the nineteen.

Speaker 14 (02:26:27):
Owls species or kinds of? Owls, yeah, Right, states did
you know that nineteen next box no.

Speaker 17 (02:26:35):
Offense but if you're thinking about getting a sea loock
from your local, bank you're about to make the really the.

Speaker 2 (02:26:41):
Show just go to.

Speaker 1 (02:26:42):
YouTube, okay you got to rewind bar rewind, about.

Speaker 14 (02:26:50):
And we have in the forest behind my house the
spot Of, yep there you.

Speaker 17 (02:26:56):
Go The Apartment, adventures not saying the bar THAT i
was eating the spotted out The department Of. Interior you're
saying that the barn owl is hurting the spotted. Out
The department of vent here says it wants to kill
over ten percent of the barn owl.

Speaker 1 (02:27:13):
Population all, right skip bad about, it because the barn
owl is WHY i would do.

Speaker 17 (02:27:17):
That then the spotted out from the spotted. Out AS i,
said they're both Both god's.

Speaker 1 (02:27:22):
Creatures, okay right, here posit for a. Second this is
a barred.

Speaker 2 (02:27:26):
Out they are Both god's.

Speaker 1 (02:27:28):
Creatures they are Both god's, creatures and these are. Owls,
NOW i just want to set up here for a.
Minute it looks like he's talking, to you, know an.
Audience there's nobody in this, chamber by the, way he
is speaking to, nobody And Senator Kennedy i'm using the
term senator lightly here is not a stupid. Man he

(02:27:48):
went To oxford on A rhodes. Scholarship he used to
be A. Democrat he is plays this folksy thing like
to the. Max this is not how he actually. Is
he's a well, read smart. Individual but there's something going
on here with these. Owls go, Ahead. Brian it's.

Speaker 17 (02:28:14):
Beautiful if you've ever seen a barred, out it has,
very very soulful. Lies their their feathers are incredibly. Soft
it's called a bar b a r or ed because
of the bars that run across, here as opposed to

(02:28:38):
a spotted.

Speaker 7 (02:28:39):
Out the barred out.

Speaker 17 (02:28:43):
Ten percent of which OUR braini acts at The department
Of interior want to. Kill has been around for eleven thousand.

Speaker 1 (02:28:52):
Years.

Speaker 14 (02:28:54):
Sometimes called a heat. Out that may be the. Term
you know. It, no it's by.

Speaker 17 (02:29:00):
Best the bard owls about two feet. Long it's got incredible.
Eyes can see it's Like. SUPERMAN i Think Senator kennedy
wants to that.

Speaker 1 (02:29:15):
Owl, YEAH i think he wants a fucking owl or
he has funcked it. Out that's A that's a weird
way to talk about an. Animal it's got soulful eyes
and incredibly.

Speaker 6 (02:29:30):
Very, soft very, soulful and uh its feathers are incredibly
sold mm hmm uh, yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:29:43):
Better check somebody search, history all, right.

Speaker 2 (02:29:46):
Hooting and.

Speaker 1 (02:29:47):
Hollering he he he goes To hooters for a different.
Reason Oh, god for the. Owls, no, yeah he's not
there for the. Wings oh maybe he. Is, oh all,
Right this last one is called what the fuck is
going on? Here? Ted you want to read this? One all?

Speaker 2 (02:30:07):
Right what the fuck is going on? Here, scholarship one
preserved for black students at A california university is now
available to is now available to all after a white
student and the right wing nonprofit alleged it violated a
federal anti ku Klux klan. Law, yeah, yeah of course
that's this is this is this is where we're. At

(02:30:27):
the case uses the Ku Klux Klan act of eighteen seventy,
one signing the law to protect the rights Of African
americans in The, south you, know kind of, slavery and
then this group popped, up the one that you, know
put us back is a novel approach that attorneys for
the plane too is talented as a victory for equality

(02:30:47):
and a possible blueprint for future. Challenges this is. Insane
the law is quote supposed to protect, everyone regardless of
races end. Quote To Jack, brown an attorney with A
Pacific legal Fan foundation which Represented californias For californians For
Equal Rights foundation And Kai, peters a student at The

(02:31:08):
university Of california At San. Diego he, added, quote we're
simply trying to ensure that promise of equal protection is
granted to. Everyone end. Quote the specific legal foundation fouled
a law Students july AGAINST Uce San diego and The
San Diego, foundation which administered the scholarship meant to bolster
the slim black student population on. Campus black students make

(02:31:29):
up three percent OF Uc San, diego remember thirteen fourteen.
Percent it doesn't work. Out most of the university students
are From, california where black people make up just make
up just above five percent of the, population even the
number still off. There the group settled a Mid october
before a judge considered the, case and The San Diego

(02:31:49):
foundation said it would rename Its Decade Hold Black Alumni
Scholarship fund after its founders and. Alumnus the, scholarship worth
up to twenty five hundred a year or total of
ten thousand or total of ten, thousand will now be
available to all. Students rights one. Again this is this is,
IT i, mean this is. Crazy this is it's a

(02:32:10):
very nasty like it's a nasty strategy that continues to
work under the especially not here because it's NOT i
mean that. ACT i mean The act isn't necessarily like,
constitutional but right like even looking at the Fourteenth, amendment
like if we're talking about the texts and the time

(02:32:32):
that it was written in the original, meaning, hey we've
we've lost the, plot like, specifically like not along with,
this but like with the Fourteenth amendment and how they've used.
That like this equal protection under the law is equal
protection under the law for black, People like it starts
it's for, everybody but it's stuck. There it starts.

Speaker 1 (02:32:54):
There, well look at the last paragraph for this last,
quote because here's the thing you gotta be ready.

Speaker 2 (02:33:00):
For all, right so's set to some specific legal foundation.
Arguments lawsuit that The university Of San Diego foundation's collaboration
to provide scholarships to only black students amounted to a
conspiracy that hindered all students right to equal. Protection it's
unclear whether the statue's use in the lawsuit would have

(02:33:20):
held up in. Court quote the scholarship in question was
being formally administered by a private, nonprofit The San Diego,
foundation but it worked very closely with universities end. Quote
brown said, quote we do think the legal theory has some,
legs and we do stand prepared to use it in
the future should we need.

Speaker 3 (02:33:40):
To.

Speaker 2 (02:33:40):
Yeah, yeah this is a clearly this is going to
be a larger fight that's going to go. ON i
mean it it's just it's just it's just under the
like premising guys that white people In america are the
ones that are being discriminate. Against and there's no factual

(02:34:03):
data behind this at, All like it's not. There you
can search high and, wide you're not going to find.
It AND i think that's like if you brought some
data to me that show this was happening or, that
LIKE i don't, know pick whatever fucking School harvard was
admitting like thirty percent black, people right or forty percent

(02:34:23):
black like numbers way out of like proportionate to the
population in the, country Then i'd be, like all, right,
well maybe there's some data behind. It there's no data behind.
This things are going all these things are trending backwards
because of laws like.

Speaker 1 (02:34:37):
This, SO i, mean it's it's crazy to use the
amendments that were put in place almost in a, way
like you, know in saying that equal protection under the
law has to be available to everybody in the way
that it's written presupposes that it's, already of course available

(02:34:57):
to white, folks right, exactly and that it needs to be,
specified but it has to be written as such because
you can't specify one group over. Another that would violate
the whole basic. Idea but for one hundred and fifty
years it's been understood to mean. That and now to
use the very amendments that were meant to guarantee the

(02:35:22):
full access to citizenship and franchise for everybody against certain.
GROUPS i, mean think about where this could. Go could
you imagine white folks clamoring to get Into spellman and
needing to use you, know or more house or, LIKE i,
mean what are we talking about? Here this this is

(02:35:42):
this particular kid feels like he should have gotten this
scholarship that is not for.

Speaker 2 (02:35:48):
Him BUT i would love to dig deeper and, see
like are these cases that people are bringing like like
someone is is this a unique case that you? Know
you know how they bring so in cases to challenge these.

Speaker 1 (02:36:02):
Things that's what.

Speaker 2 (02:36:03):
Taspens, yeah, clearly like.

Speaker 1 (02:36:04):
They's found an example and they're they're testing a theory
and and they're gonna keep doing. This they're always even.

Speaker 2 (02:36:11):
Even doing that is using the strategy that was used
through the civil rights like. Movement like it's very it's
like it's it's insidious to watch this what this specific
thing that.

Speaker 1 (02:36:23):
Tasks they're Using marshall and uh Du boys's whole, model
right of like find the example and then work it
through the. System you, know they're using that those, examples
that that method to undo the equal access that took

(02:36:44):
so long to get. To and it's still not even. There,
Yeah like.

Speaker 2 (02:36:49):
It's it's it's like it's one thing when you're, like all,
right the corporate person based on the Fourteenth, amendment, Right
like it's like all, right that's but all right, whatever that's,
cool all, right but when you're now using this to
actually cause detriment and harm to the people that it

(02:37:10):
was actually created to like to, protect and that was
written and it took damn near one hundred more years
for them even to enforce. It and they might even say,
that folks have only been enforced in this for what fifty.

Speaker 1 (02:37:24):
Five years the, Most i'd say much less than that
forty five, years, yeah or even in the last maybe
thirty or something like. That because even as The Voting
Rights act And Civil Rights acts were in, place like
they still needed lawsuits and case law and perpetual. Maintenance
The Voting Rights act had to be keep being, updated

(02:37:47):
voted on, again amended, again to like tune, it you,
know to keep this thing doing what it's supposed to.
Do the real, QUESTION i think is to ask this
kid or the people and what bothers you so much
about there being a scholarship for black. Students why is
that a problem for? You if you need there to
be a scholarship for white, students there's nothing stopping you

(02:38:09):
from doing it Right. Exactly you can't make it explicitly
for white. Students they're gonna, say, well if we can't
make one that's for whites, only why can you make
one that's for blacks.

Speaker 2 (02:38:20):
Only it's, like, well like you're, dead you're being obtuso on,
Purpose like, yeah, yeah that's not what this. Is and
and then and then WHEN i tell you it's because of,
slavery you're, like, oh you're making me think.

Speaker 1 (02:38:33):
It that was so.

Speaker 2 (02:38:34):
Long like WHEN i tell you, that it's LIKE i
can't even say. That IF i really lay down the,
reason then it's Like i've discriminated you against you because
you're because you're, white And i've made you feel. Bad
i've hurt your. Feelings NOT i hurt, You i've hurt your.
Feelings like IT'S i think the idea that that like.

Speaker 1 (02:38:58):
That the only thing people are trying to achieve his
equality and not retribution should be a fucking grace, miracle you,
know like the way that White america has treated so many. Groups,
yeah that they are just asking to like get to

(02:39:19):
the same level and not a you need to pay
me back for all that, shit like we're not even.
There we're just at LIKE i just want to go to.

Speaker 2 (02:39:29):
School you.

Speaker 1 (02:39:30):
Know, yeah it's all it's it's, UH i, mean but
it does really beg the question why does this bother
you so? Much and and and their answer is going
to be BECAUSE i can't have a scholarship that says
it's for whites. Only and then that is a, question
why do you want? That, YEAH i, mean what advantage
do you not already?

Speaker 2 (02:39:49):
Have but they don't, see you, know and they don't
see it as an. Advantage that's, there it is. There
they DON'T i GET i could see how it might
be hard to see that as an. ADVANTAGE I i
can see.

Speaker 1 (02:40:01):
That by the story that this country is already a
meritocracy and everybody starts level then, yeah this is, infuriating
but that's not true and it's not empirically. True, so
but then, again maybe the reason he doesn't know that
is because he didn't get to go to the school
yet and learn, how you, know empirical measurements.

Speaker 2 (02:40:22):
WORK i mean us reading the other. DAY i mean
it's an old, article but it's like read, again and
there's not. Kids there used to be a time where,
like no matter what the book, Was english class or,
whatever you had to read the full, book Like i'll
Be but NOW i hear. It it's like they're giving
excerpts out and kids are, leaving like these high profile
colleges where they're like the professor gives a book and they're,

(02:40:44):
like what what do you mean read a whole? Book
like that's Not i've Never i've never done that. BEFORE
i don't have the attention, spandard which is. Crazy so,
yeah maybe you're, right maybe no one's. Read it always comes.

Speaker 1 (02:40:58):
Back to no one's reading fucking. Nerds all, right that's.
It we've come to the end of the. Show you,
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