Ladies (and gentlemen) Meno-Start your Engines

Chip and Tez talk to Dr Shannon Cothran and Coach Dulany Washington about their new medical practice, Meno-Start which helps people going through menopause with medical care and physical fitness training. Plus RFK is a medical menace, Trump loses in court (again) and penguins take climate change in their own flippers. Bryan has a viral experience, and his Ai songs must be stopped! Not to mention headlines, and so much more! 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (01:04):
It is nine thirty on a Thursday night and you
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This is chip chat?

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Why don't the chip chat everybody chip?

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You just told him, buddy, how are you?

Speaker 3 (01:19):
Man? I'm I got some shoulder pain. I gotta be honest,
I gotta, I gotta. I don't know if it's like
a stinger. No, I was supposed to but then then
it rained and so, but I do have an actual
game coming up or whatever what do you call it?

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Time? A game? Yeah, I know a game.

Speaker 3 (01:40):
I'm gonna play golf.

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It's a game. Well, it's a.

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Tournament for a charity thing.

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Oh, those are always awesome. It's like a scramble.

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Yeah. And we're going with people who know even less
about how to play than I do, so it should
be highly entertaining. Sure, clubs are serving.

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In particular the Irons. I seem to be pretty good
at those. Good they're doing that.

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I'm happy that it's happening to you.

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Yeah, yet another positive impact you've had on my life.

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Nuance. I don't know if I taught you, Nuance, still
working on that list that one we try.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
All right, So this week is a special edition of
chip Chat because we have a returning guest.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (02:34):
Doctor Shannon Contherine is going to be here. She has
helped this week.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
Well actually she had helped the last time she was here,
but that was years ago, and I believe she was
on last time when we were predicting the downfall of
Row or planning for the downfall of Row, and then
it turned out we were right.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
So probably not great. Don't tune in. That's going to
ruin your life going forward. I guess, I don't know. Hopefully,
now we're gonna we're gonna have her back. She's gonna
Mennos start talking about her new practice.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
Okay, give yeah, there we go.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
We'll are also gonna ask her if if RFK is
like an actual doctor, just a vehicle for brainworms people
the answer, but I'd love to ask we do.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Trump loses in court, then he then he unlost, and
then he lost again, so he's like he Today was
a wild day. Like from the time that I finished
writing last night to today, I've had to update the
script a couple of times. So when you read it
for the first time, two minutes from now, it'll all
look normal to you, exactly. Yeah, and uh, let's see.

(03:46):
I know we say that every week, but like you know,
he there's like some big losses and he's got like
another one coming up. And then the.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Schools are all having trouble because his graduation season and
Brian happened to be filming a viral moment. So Brian
is famous by proxy, and not in a good way,
which is most of the ways Brian's famous.

Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 (04:12):
That's true.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
He's mostly famous for being associated with this piece of crap.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Oh yeah, anyway, it's our crap.

Speaker 4 (04:21):
You ready, this is this is my favorite one. Little
Rocketman and Elon go toe to toe for the biggest
failure to launch.

Speaker 2 (04:29):
That's good. That's good that one. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (04:33):
And then the penguins are back.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
In the news. They are back. I love that story.
I heard that story.

Speaker 3 (04:40):
It was the most test talk story.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
We brought back to the We've brought it back to
the climate, we.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
Brought it all the way back. It's about dead ass birds.
It's about birds, it's got climate, it's everything, maximum tes maximum.
If one of those penguins was named Jerome Powell.

Speaker 2 (05:02):
It would be that would be the full before everything
would come together as like the holy Trinity of stories
that we report on this show.

Speaker 3 (05:12):
Your favoritist things all at once. Yeah yeah, okay, so
yeah it sounds like a packed show, gonna be wild.
Do you have a Do you have a word.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
To? I have a word. Word.

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It's tough to come up with.

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It sometimes, the end this is just sometimes I try
to to like make it work. So I'm just gonna
come up with a word.

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I've got the word.

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All right, I got going to go before it. Yeah,
it probably won't work.

Speaker 3 (05:40):
But I got We're gonna find out, all right, So
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Speaker 1 (05:53):
Sweet all right, welcome back to chip Chat here on

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Beltwegh Radio and beyond.

Speaker 3 (06:42):
I'm yours chip with me is Taz all right? Now,
before we get to our guest, just I wanted to
run a quick this is a visual.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Uh bit right for our our many viewers. Apparently I
don't know. Number keeps going up. So which of these
two things is the chicken? I have to decide which
which one the the this one or this one is the.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
Chicken, the second one is the chicken, the second one,
and which goes better in a taco? Second one, the
second one. Okay, we're just making sure. If you don't
know why we keep talking about that, later google uh
Trump and taco.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
It's a.

Speaker 3 (07:33):
It's a. It's a word. You're gonna need to know it.
Uh So, okay, let's see. Uh. Doctor Cotine is known
for her outgoing and warm personality. Oh wait, she wrote this,
never mind? Uh no, she is cool. She's pretty fun
and her sharp clinical mind. That's that part's true. Yes,
she grew up in Fairfax. She went to UVA. She

(07:54):
graduated in a year we're not gonna say, in a
with a degree in chemistry and then biologic specialty. Those
are big words. I don't know what any of that means.
She studied some kind of hormone that I'm gonna make
her say because I can't say that word. And then anyway,
she's an obe. She went on to become a ob

(08:15):
gyn and she's a genius doctor who is responsible for
delivering a lot of my kids, nearly all of them.
And so, yeah, she's pretty cool. Then she's got a
buddy whose name is a Delaney, Washington coach and who
has been provided personal fitness training solutions to clients in

(08:37):
the DC area since nineteen ninety seven. We're gonna give
him the credit for that because it's we're not gonna
say when she graduated. That's how the double standard in America.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Yeah, you just got to do it.

Speaker 3 (08:51):
This is an accomplishment for her. We don't say when
she graduated college.

Speaker 4 (08:58):
Right, Okay, thousands of clients special fitness needs athletes, youth.

Speaker 3 (09:04):
Maybe can help me with my shoulders. So I'm really
going on there. For the past decade, coaches focused on
supporting women in the perimenopause menopausal stage of life. We're
going to ask what those words need and all kinds
of other great stuff. Anyway, they're both on the show
here because they've got something cool. Various cool people who
have no business being on the show. Welcome to jet Chat.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Good to be here.

Speaker 5 (09:29):
I don't mind.

Speaker 6 (09:30):
I don't mind saying how old I am, because you
know now that I'm in menopause, I'm positive about aging
and all of those things.

Speaker 3 (09:38):
Okay, well, then there you go. It is a it's
a good number.

Speaker 5 (09:45):
We're positive about that. Story of stuff now.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
It's a square of a prime too, So that's.

Speaker 5 (09:50):
Cool and it rhymes with feeling fine.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
There you go, there we go.

Speaker 5 (09:57):
Yeah, yeah, it's good. Rid.

Speaker 3 (10:00):
So since you were experts before we we go too far?
Can you determine which of these is, in fact the chicken.

Speaker 5 (10:09):
I think it's the white one.

Speaker 3 (10:11):
That's right, that's okay.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Are we going to get Am I going to lose
my conservative.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Show?

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (10:24):
A lot of them already? You know, you know the
conservatives of Fairfax Well conservatism, I mean it.

Speaker 3 (10:35):
Was in the nineties, that's true.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
You know, it's fine. We're big with the Heritage Foundation.

Speaker 3 (10:40):
Yeah, it's true. They listen to our show a lot
apparently recently a lot of people in Fremont, California, awesome,
which I had no idea was like the center of
our listenership. But yeah, the Bay area is big on
the chip chat these days.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
And for being on so long. I mean, if we
talked a couple of years ago, that's great that you're
still here.

Speaker 3 (11:07):
This is our year.

Speaker 5 (11:10):
Wow, that's great.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, it's eventually somebody's gonna notice. So let's uh, let's
talk about your your new practice. So what, uh, why
did you start this? New practice and tell us tell.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Us about so, as you said, I was in private
practice for fifteen years with the combination obg y N practice.

Speaker 5 (11:34):
I'm a board certified obg y N. And you know,
just what does that mean for the men who listen
board certified?

Speaker 3 (11:43):
Yeah, they don't know that.

Speaker 6 (11:44):
It means that you completed training and then you also
go through an examination process to with the Board of
obg y N to become board certified, and.

Speaker 5 (11:54):
Then you have to like redo that every year.

Speaker 3 (11:57):
Tell them what the obg y N stands.

Speaker 6 (11:59):
Oh, obstetrics and gynecology, which is delivering babies. That's of stetrics,
and then gynecology is women's healthcare.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
There you go, yeah, okay, all right.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
So did that for a long time.

Speaker 6 (12:12):
Loved delivering babies obviously, especially your babies.

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yes, that's a job. They're very cute.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yes, and thanks to your other half obviously she did
most of the work.

Speaker 8 (12:27):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
So, but saw a hole in the market in menopause
care entered this phase of life myself. I've been working
with coach for ten years and became very interested in
fitness and wellness and how medicine and fitness should come together,
where instead of fighting each other, uh, and then decided

(12:48):
to kind of jump off the cliff and start this
business with Delaney, a combination of board certified medical doctor
and you know, certified personal trainer to help women through
this phase to feel better their whole body, not just

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PABs and mammos, because menopause really is a whole body.

Speaker 5 (13:16):
Condition.

Speaker 6 (13:18):
And so that's what we did, Menos start because we're
not ready to pause.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
I was shocked to find out that domain was available
because I was sure that somebody was gonna grab this, but.

Speaker 5 (13:32):
Well that person was me actually a couple of years ago.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
So this is this broke has written itself now since
the word was you know coins.

Speaker 6 (13:41):
Right, Well, that's that's actually a great point because people.

Speaker 5 (13:46):
Haven't really thought about menopause.

Speaker 6 (13:48):
You know, it's kind of taboo to talk about you're
not supposed to get old as women like you kind
of alluded to, and you know, we just kind of
swept it under the rug. And that's really changing in
the last few years. And so I think that's why,
you know, people weren't really thinking about menopause care as
a population that needed care. You know, women's health is

(14:11):
pregnancy and breast cancer, which are important things, but it's
not the only thing. And so now I think women
in our age group are saying, you know, no, we
need care. We're still going to live in other thirty
forty years in this phase and we want to feel
good well.

Speaker 3 (14:29):
And you didn't have to worry about some dudebro like
buying the domain and camping on it because he never
would have thought of it.

Speaker 8 (14:35):
Right, So.

Speaker 3 (14:38):
Can you But speaking of due Bro's and all the
rest of the men out there, can you help explain
some of these words we hear the words menopause, perimenopause.
I think the other turn that you hear is becoming
useless to jd vance What what do these words mean
to the rest? You know, explain them if you.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
Couldn't, Like, what is menopause? Is what you're asking.

Speaker 6 (15:01):
Yeah, so when girls are like eleven to thirteen, they
get their period and that's the start of them being
able to have babies. And then around the age fifty one,
you go through menopause, where your overies stops making eggs
and your period stops. So menopause is actually a clinical definition,

(15:22):
which is no period for one year. Very menopause is
the time before it means around, but it really means
before and it can be seven to ten years of
like huge hormone fluctuations that happen kind of as the
overy's dying. So it's a lot like puberty. So with

(15:45):
three girls, you'll know about that.

Speaker 3 (15:47):
Yeah, we're approaching this phase. I'm not looking forward to it.

Speaker 5 (15:52):
Perfectly, honest, but it's yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 3 (15:56):
My plan is to just throw them out back and
hose them off if they that's a good idea.

Speaker 6 (16:05):
Well, Luckily, somehow how fertility works, you get to go
through perimental pause around the same time your daughter's going
through puberty.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
So that's a good time.

Speaker 3 (16:16):
That sounds great for wowow.

Speaker 6 (16:20):
So yeah, I gradually door dashed tampons to my house.
I was going to include chocolate, but then she was
being to me, so I was like, forget it.

Speaker 8 (16:34):
That she didn't need you anyway.

Speaker 6 (16:35):
Yeah, wow, Look Google, it's sort of weird.

Speaker 3 (16:42):
Cruel like harmful emotional punishment did evolution due to.

Speaker 6 (16:49):
Us, right, Well, a lot of generations people didn't live
this long. You know, you died at fifty a lot
of times heart disease and other things in fact, and
so this phenomenon, this situation of living thirty forty years
in menopause is really modern. And so I think our parents,

(17:13):
I'm grouping us all in the same age.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
You know, I'm not there.

Speaker 8 (17:18):
Yeah, you're fine, way behind that, way beyond that.

Speaker 6 (17:23):
Our parents, you know, they just wanted to get to
a number of longevity. They're like, we just want lifespan
to be as great as possible. But I think us
and younger people especially, they're like, no, we don't want
to just be eighty eight. We want to actually feel
good and be able to pick our keys up off
the ground and do all these things, you know, when
we're older. So that's where you know, the fitness part

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comes in and all of that.

Speaker 4 (17:49):
All right, So we're going to get to the fitness
things in the second. But I do have a medical question, yes,
that I wanted to ask. So, being that you're a
real doctor, do you recommend And when I say that,
I'm not saying that you're not.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
I'm saying that, like there.

Speaker 5 (18:07):
Are non real doctors.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yes, there are people making health policy who have absolutely
no fucking idea what they're doing and have no medical
background at all. Right, So that's why I mean, I'm.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
There.

Speaker 3 (18:23):
You go, you're credential here.

Speaker 5 (18:25):
So there's a.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
Lot of non doctors in the menopause space too, Oh
I'm sure.

Speaker 5 (18:31):
Yeah, a lot of functional type things.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Yeah so, but and that's there can be people. I
want to be clear also that like there it's okay
to be a doctor and still be giving decent, you know,
advice to people about what they're doing and things, and
not medical advice. You shouldn't be doing that, but you
but you can tell like, hey, you know, you you
could drink a glass of water to a day like

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that's fine.

Speaker 5 (18:56):
But an environmental lawyer maybe not so much.

Speaker 4 (18:58):
Maybe not such a environmental lawyer. They went swimming in
rock Creek after a brain storm. Fucking genius, that guy.

Speaker 3 (19:06):
So do you still recommend that pregnant women who are
otherwise healthy get their COVID shots or should we listen
to the guy who eats the road kill?

Speaker 6 (19:19):
Well, yeah, I mean obviously that happened, and I'm gonna
be candid.

Speaker 5 (19:25):
I'm not sure how I feel about the COVID boosters
just in general.

Speaker 6 (19:30):
There's not a lot of data really one way or
the other. I do think they're safe for pregnancy, but
the problem with how this all came out is they.

Speaker 5 (19:40):
Didn't ask anyone.

Speaker 6 (19:42):
They didn't go to an advisory committee, they didn't ask
it at other physicians, you know, the American College of
Obstetrics and Gynecology, like the does our kind of guidelines
and things, they came out saying, no, we recommend this
for pregnant women and kids. The Society for Maternal Fetal Medicine,

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which is the high risk doctors, they're saying, no, you know,
this is wrong. There's not even a CDC director and
they're making a decision for the CDC.

Speaker 5 (20:14):
So the real problem, you know, we could debate.

Speaker 6 (20:18):
COVID vaccines because it's not one hundred percent clear, you know,
as just people that know about things.

Speaker 5 (20:28):
But what this really.

Speaker 6 (20:29):
Does is it's just destroying any faith and institutions, so
you don't know who to believe or where to get guidelines,
you know, because there's no credibility.

Speaker 5 (20:42):
That really makes me nervous.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
Yeah, I think that's very clearly the point here, especially
because correct me if I'm wrong. But from what I
understand that there was the advisory committee was supposed to
be meeting in June, like just a couple of weeks
from now to then issue this guidance that that for
as long as there has been a CBC, and uh,

(21:05):
you know HHS that this is how this has worked, right,
is that CBC the Advisory Committee makes these uh you
know recommendations and then then HHS and at the eight
you know, put their weight behind it.

Speaker 6 (21:16):
But like, right, it's just and it's strange to me
that they're specifically going for pregnant women and kids when
most of the adverse outcome data is on young men.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
You know, with the partiomiocrothy right there in that group.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
So it's definitely targeting you know, pregnant women, which is
strange to me.

Speaker 3 (21:39):
Well, and I from what I understand, again I'm not
the doctor here, but that a lot of this has
to do with conferring some immunity to the the babies
because they're too young to get a shot or develop any.

Speaker 5 (21:53):
Immunity, right, and that's very common.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
We give lots of vaccines and pregnancy for that in
to protect the baby, you know, very pro influenza vaccine
something called t DAP because protessis is can kill a newborn,
you know, yeah, because people are not getting vaccinated.

Speaker 5 (22:14):
So because when.

Speaker 6 (22:17):
You get a vaccine, you make antibodies against that you know,
germ or whatever that you got the vaccine against antibodies
cross the placenta and then the baby gets those antibodies
and then.

Speaker 5 (22:29):
Is born with protection.

Speaker 6 (22:31):
So they did studies on the COVID vaccine and pregnancy,
and they did show that the newborns had antibodies for COVID,
which is great. You know, that's what we want, right
and it's safe. Otherwise there's no other issues, you know.
My other concern is that people are going to just
stop getting any vaccines in pregnancy because they hear this,

(22:52):
and you know, there's there's more dangerous viruses than COVID
for newborns that you know, you definitely want people to
get vaccinated against.

Speaker 4 (23:02):
Well, and that brings me to my second question about this,
which is just today they cut off the money that
was building the new H one N one bird flu
uh m r n A vaccine and in favor of
I guess spending it.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
To do it the old school way with eggs. Is
that what they're going to do.

Speaker 5 (23:22):
I don't know honestly what their plan.

Speaker 9 (23:24):
Is, but well, yeah, I don't know what the RFK
is going to try to scrape the guts out of
a wombat and use that for I mean.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
H one n one parties like the you know, chicken
box parties, or what isn't vitamin a? Like curing measles
and a begetting.

Speaker 3 (23:45):
To curing measles by giving people liver failure.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I believe is I mean, when you're damning measles is cured? Right,
that's right?

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Yeah, yeah, let's have figure.

Speaker 8 (24:00):
Know great, no, but it is.

Speaker 6 (24:03):
It is a dangerous definitely a dangerous time for health policy.
And the problem with him is some of the stuff
he says, You're like, well, that's not a bad idea,
like the food dies and you know, some of the
other stuff. It's hard to say he's totally out of line.

Speaker 5 (24:23):
You know, there are a lot of issues with.

Speaker 3 (24:27):
How talk is right twice a day. I mean that
doesn't mean it.

Speaker 6 (24:31):
Works, yeah, but he definitely does seem to be or
he whoever it is the agency, you know, Kennedy Trump,
I don't know whoever it is, but targeting women's health
research and defunding it.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
And yeah, recommendations.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
So I mean, it's right on there on his face.
I think actually we talked about this the last time
that you were on the show. Which is about how
if states are defunding the supportive care or the supportive
services around you know, pregnancy and newborns and motherhood like

(25:11):
snap head start all of these other things that they're
really encouraging or increasing the number of abortions because or
miscarriages or or all kinds of other you know, outcomes
that they might not want because of the lack of
support for you know, pregnant people in this.

Speaker 5 (25:31):
Country and contraception.

Speaker 3 (25:33):
Right, yeah, they is the best way to.

Speaker 5 (25:35):
Prevent abortion is prevent pregnancy.

Speaker 3 (25:38):
Well, I thought God was supposed to get it.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Seems so simple, say.

Speaker 4 (25:45):
In Missouri, women's bodies just know how to shut that down.
I don't know if it works in other states, but
that was in Missouri.

Speaker 3 (25:51):
So all right, coach, let's let's uh, we've had fun
with the medical side, but let's talk to you for
a minute here.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
What are some of the most important phys fitness aspects
of aging in general, but specifically revolving around menopause and
the approach into menopause and then maybe even after.

Speaker 3 (26:09):
I don't know what's the after period called.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Is you're just you're just in menopause forever?

Speaker 8 (26:14):
Yeah, Okay, Yeah, there's no such way, no such thing
as post menopause. Just that's just where you are, gotcha.
But I mean, I think one of the most important
things to look at weight bearing exercises. You know, that's
very important because because you start to lose you know,
bone density, right, so you want to you know, have
that as part of you know, as part of your

(26:35):
fitness routine. Getting lots of protein, you know, is a
big plus, you know, because we start to lose protein
and we're starting to build we want to build muscle
along the way, you know. You know, even as men,
we start to lose a lot of our muscle after
we turn the age of forty, you know, so you know,
women start to lose that too. So what I recommend
is that they have, you know, make sure to get

(26:56):
lots of protein, do weight bearing exercises, you know, my phone,
because is a lot on functional movement, you know, just
the focusing on the basics you know, core, balance, stability,
those sort of things, and then building off of the air.

Speaker 3 (27:12):
Then a lot of like strength training, I think.

Speaker 8 (27:14):
Is that yes, yeah, the way bearing exercise, I mean,
you start up, you know, there's always some form of
strength training because as.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
You do stop regard.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
Okay, we're all got people here too.

Speaker 8 (27:30):
But you know, it's as you start to build. First off,
you know, you build a good foundation, and you in
the strength part, which is you know, I tell people
a lot of women are it's and also for men too.
You know, I was talking to a lady just talked
about what she used to do thirty years ago, and
I get that. Trust me. You know, thirty years ago
I could do a lot of things. But it's understanding

(27:52):
that our bodies changed too, you know, and you have
to adapt to the change. It doesn't mean you can't
get strong, and so you do want to incorporate you know,
dumb or you know, kelllebells, whatever happened to be something
like that. It won't be the same as it was.
But it doesn't mean that you still can't get strong,
you can't get fit, you know, you still can't leave it,

(28:12):
still can't lead a still lead a healthy life. So
you know, we start to emphasize those things.

Speaker 6 (28:17):
Especially, and I just want to say, yeah, there's not
a lot of data about menopause, but there is a
study that was pretty well done and it shows actually
hot flashes are something that menopausal people get or they
just randomly get hot at inappropriate times, and some people

(28:38):
it's very debilitating. Other people don't get it so much,
can cause sleep issues, lots of problems. Fifty percent reduction
in hot flashes with exercise and training.

Speaker 5 (28:51):
It's amazing.

Speaker 6 (28:52):
It's so simple, you know, but not everything almost every
menopause symptom gets better with exercise.

Speaker 8 (28:59):
Yeah, sleep gets better, mood gets better, you know, cognitive
functions get better all the way around.

Speaker 3 (29:05):
You know, a lot of people say, I've read lots
of things that say that exercise helps with most of
those things, which I feel like there's a strong consensus
that that around that, which means that that must be
ninety percent of all the experts lying to us, because
consensus among scientists is bullshit and therefore we shouldn't do it.

(29:26):
And I have TV to watch, so the expertise, you know,
there you go, I need a white coat too appreciate.
But coach like TV tells me that old people basically
can do like a few things. They can go walking,
they can play pickleball, they can sit next to each
other in bathtubs looking out at the sunset. But what

(29:48):
are the actual practical things that that people can do?
We can't all play pickleball all the time.

Speaker 8 (29:55):
Right, So so first off, when you say old people
have to take some exception, I'll be sixty five this year.

Speaker 3 (30:04):
I'm not saying it.

Speaker 8 (30:07):
You know, I'm getting ready to you know, get my
medicare and everything else going on here.

Speaker 3 (30:11):
You're not so old, god, never mind, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (30:17):
Old folks. We still get around a little bit.

Speaker 2 (30:19):
We still do a few things though.

Speaker 8 (30:21):
So but you know, strength training, you know, I mean
I train people that are in their seventies and in
their eighties also to strength training, you know, because you know,
as you start to get older. You know, I have
a lot of older people who you know, their their posture,
for instance, starts to go, you start to get bent over,
you know, to start getting weaken their legs, which you
know accounts for a lot of your strength, you know,

(30:42):
getting good leg strength, you start to lose your balance.
So you know, you focus on those things as you
get older, and you can still maybe not going to
build muscles the same ways that you used to, but
you can still be strong, you know, you can still
feel confident in how you move. So you know, again
I work with you know, older people who we use dumbells.
We use bands, you know, I have them, do balance exercise,

(31:04):
a lot of balance exercises, a lot of those, you know,
because you'd be surprised, you know, when you're young. Yeah,
you can do a lot of things. You can move easily,
but you know, balance is a big thing as you
get older, you know, and so if there's a fear
of falling, you know, getting back up. So so we
trained through all those things, you know, because I've worked
with stroke victims. I've worked with the person that you
know only had one leg, so you know, so it's

(31:26):
a lot of different things.

Speaker 5 (31:28):
One leg was really strong though, right.

Speaker 8 (31:33):
With coach, So that's true. The good thing.

Speaker 6 (31:38):
About what we're doing is we have like former D
one athletes, you know, and then we have.

Speaker 5 (31:43):
People who have never been in a gym, right.

Speaker 6 (31:45):
So there's a lot of diverse fitness experience in women
of this age as well. And so the best part
is having a professional person like Coach that.

Speaker 5 (31:57):
Can help you wherever you are. You know, if you've
never been in a gym, it can be really intimidating.

Speaker 6 (32:04):
Or if you're like forty nine and now you're hip
heurts all the time, you need adjustments on what you're doing.

Speaker 5 (32:10):
You know, it's nice to have somebody that can help
you with that.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
So well, and speaking of that, that like, you know,
I wasn't a D one athlete, but I was a
varsity high school athlete. Like that's the last time I
had any real professional like involvement in how I should train,
how I should eat, you know, all of those things.
And so like when I'm when I started feeling my age, okay,

(32:36):
I was like, oh, I'll.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
Do stretches and I was like, oh, I remember my
stretcher team from the crew team, and like that's probably
not the most useful for somebody my age and capacity anymore.
So like how do you well, do you have to
like teach people a whole different way of thinking about
their own ye, how they move in space and all that.

Speaker 8 (32:58):
But one of the things I think is, you know
what I like to do first off, when I'm meeting somebody,
I like to do an assessment. That's the first thing,
you know. I do what I call like an overhead
squad assessment. I'll have a move and I'll look and
see if their feet turn out, if their knees turn in,
if their hips, if their back is swayed all those
sort of things, you know, because there could be anomalies
that are causing that. You know, I mean thirty years ago,

(33:20):
forty years ago, fifty years ago for me, you know,
when I was playing sports, we never talked about foam
rolling or stretching or doing all those types of things.
I mean, it just you just didn't do it.

Speaker 3 (33:31):
You didn't drink water, We didn't you tablet.

Speaker 8 (33:34):
We wouldn't drink water. We had to take salt tablets
all the time.

Speaker 3 (33:37):
Yeah, at tablet, that was That's right.

Speaker 8 (33:39):
So so what you do is, once I do the assessment,
there's certain things that you want to target. Okay, maybe
you maybe your maybe your hips are tight. You know,
we have to focus on doing the flex stretches for
those particular movements. Maybe there's anomalies where where your muscles
have gotten knots on them, and how do we get
rid of those knots? You know, So by the assessment,
that's right. It's not a cookie cut a formula, so

(34:01):
you know, you can you can have the same thing,
but everybody's not the same, so you have to adjust accordingly.

Speaker 3 (34:06):
Though that sounds complicated. God bless you for doing that.

Speaker 8 (34:11):
It's fun though. I love it because you know when
somebody gets it and you see the light bulb go
on and you see them actually starting to do it
and start like Shannon'll tay, I'll see her. She said,
you're just complimenting me. Could be nice and say, no,
I'm seeing you actually do these things. I'm watching our speed,
you know, So I'm because she knows I'm not nice
like that in the first place.

Speaker 4 (34:31):
Like the puzzle to solve, right, each person is their
own different puzzle.

Speaker 3 (34:36):
That sounds cool. Yeah, okay, So.

Speaker 2 (34:41):
One thing I had a question, like, in starting a
new practice, what's been like the most challenging thing. I
guess that's a good question, as you guys.

Speaker 5 (34:49):
That is a great question. I'll take it. I've got
it well. For honestly, it's been market education, you.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Know, so people aren't used to going to a practice
like ours. We're out of network, we don't accept insurance,
so there's that barrier and just kind of convincing people
like this is a different way of doing things and
it's gonna be worth it and you deserve.

Speaker 5 (35:17):
That, you know.

Speaker 6 (35:18):
So you know, obviously my patient, my old patients know
what I can do. But that's not thousands of people,
So just trying to get us out there. You know,
appreciate you guys inviting us and educating people that you know,
the fifteen minute annual is not enough, Like you need

(35:40):
more care than that, and you deserve more care and
it's out. We're here, we're ready, you know, to take
care of you.

Speaker 5 (35:46):
And then with the fitness part, a lot of people
are like, oh, I already.

Speaker 6 (35:51):
Go to Orange Theory or you know, I already do whatever,
and that's great, but just like we've been saying, having
that combination kind of a one stop shop, you know,
there's a lot of value to that.

Speaker 5 (36:05):
So it's really been educating the market is the biggest challenge.

Speaker 3 (36:08):
So you're telling me that the person offering uh.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
Uh right, I know exactly we're about to go.

Speaker 3 (36:15):
Let's calling exams outside the back of the gym was
not who the medical professional they claimed to be.

Speaker 2 (36:23):
But even beyond that, but like its all being in house, right.

Speaker 5 (36:26):
And you have one, Yeah, we have a studio here right.

Speaker 6 (36:31):
To build community as well, you know, and we've had
some people that we talked to, both of us at
the same time, and you know, we were really able
to connect together which was great, But then some people.

Speaker 5 (36:45):
Only want medical.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
You know, there's a lot of sexual side effects of
metal pause treadmill is not necessarily going to help that sure, And.

Speaker 5 (36:54):
Then there's a we have a few that only want
the fitness.

Speaker 6 (36:57):
You know, they're they're fine, they're having a easy menopause
as far as gynecology, and so there their fitness only clients.
So we want to be really flexible as well.

Speaker 2 (37:09):
Right, because that's okay if individuals just yeah, right, that
makes sense.

Speaker 3 (37:13):
Well, but having the like cohesive uh you know, wrap
around service aspect of it, it allows I would imagine
more flexibility in the type of care that you're getting
right for the individual patients because it's custom tailored to
what their needs are, right, and they don't have to

(37:35):
go three different.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Places like exactly.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
Good lord.

Speaker 4 (37:39):
One of the things about having a down's kid is
that like she has nineteen hundred doctors, and like we
have to go to like this doctor and then get
to get their information over to that doctor and do
this thing and that thing. It's like, I spend so
much time schlepping back and forth just for these appointments.

Speaker 3 (37:57):
It's crazy. I wish they would all just be one place. Yeah,
you know, but that's a different Okay.

Speaker 8 (38:05):
I was gonna say also too that you know the
thing about and like you say about the cohesiveness, because
I could be working with somebody and I think and
I could see certain things occur that I can say, look,
I think you maybe should talk to doctor Confine about this,
you know, if something she's like, she's right next door
to me, right, that's the beauty of that because I
because I notice certain things also too, and I'll point

(38:27):
in her direction also too.

Speaker 4 (38:28):
Well, I'm sure it goes every each direction. I mean,
like you know, oh, Doc, I got this pain. You know,
you don't really need to see me.

Speaker 5 (38:36):
You need to go see exactly that does happen.

Speaker 3 (38:39):
Oh, I'm sure.

Speaker 8 (38:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (38:42):
Do you think that the way that American society treats
aging in general but specifically menopause is unique to like
America or does does the rest of the world do
this better? Or what's what's our problem here?

Speaker 5 (38:57):
That's a great question.

Speaker 6 (38:58):
I would say Europe and Australia does some things better.
As far as medication, there's a lot like testosterone, for example,
is there whatever their equivalent of the FDA is FDA
approved for women, because testosterone goes down in women just
like a dozen men. But in the United States you
can only get FDA approved testosterone if you're a man,

(39:21):
or if you're a woman transitioning to a man.

Speaker 5 (39:24):
Otherwise interesting, Yeah, maybe not anymore. Yeah not, it's not
gone yet.

Speaker 6 (39:29):
But so we have to dose male testosterone at a
tenth of the dose, and you know, it's not easy
to do. So they kind of have more access to
medications and things. I'm not as familiar with the fitness
programming in the other countries, but they're There also are

(39:50):
different cultural feelings about aging.

Speaker 5 (39:55):
And how you know, women, Aging.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
Especially is expressed even in the US and different ethnic groups,
and so Asian women don't get as many hot flashes,
but they have a lot more bone density issues in general.
Right in Hispanic culture, aging is even more of a taboo,

(40:19):
and fertility is so you know, part of the culture
that nobody really wants to admit about metal pause, and
so it's harder to talk to them about it.

Speaker 5 (40:29):
They don't want to acknowledge that they're in it. So
there are some.

Speaker 6 (40:34):
Cultural sensitivities even here about aging and how people feel
about that. So I would imagine that that's true in
different countries as well.

Speaker 3 (40:44):
Do you think that the reason the Australian women have
less of a problem with aging is because they're upside
down so it goes backwards for them, you.

Speaker 5 (40:55):
Know, yes, and they really die from like spider bites
or right.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, they don't live to be thirty five because they're
outsurfing or whatever, right bit by.

Speaker 2 (41:07):
Yeah, there we go. That's there we go waiting for this.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
Right, thank you for putting up with that incredible piece
of humor that I am so proud of. Okay, so, uh,
the next two questions. I don't really know exactly how
to direct these, but if Medicaid funding is cut substantially,
and you know, you're not doing insurance exactly, but I'm

(41:32):
sure you have thoughts on this. If Medicaid funding is
cut substantially, which it is in the one big beautiful
bill that got through by one vote in the House,
what will that mean for these kind of critical treatments
for people who are dependent on that.

Speaker 5 (41:51):
Yeah, right now, menopause care is still pretty niche almost.

Speaker 6 (41:58):
It's kind of like where fertility can was about twenty
five years ago, you know, and that's a shame, right,
I mean, everybody.

Speaker 5 (42:07):
Goes through menopause.

Speaker 6 (42:09):
But our hope is that you know, doing this, it
will kind of you know, eventually get down to insurance
based care and you know, change a change the model
of medicine. But I can guarantee that Medicaid is not
covering menopause care.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Even it's already not not helping, no shocking.

Speaker 6 (42:31):
So I think where that's going to really have an
issue for our population, it's just going.

Speaker 5 (42:36):
To be access.

Speaker 6 (42:37):
You know, it's going to dramatically decrease the access to
care and then.

Speaker 5 (42:41):
People aren't going to get the help.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
That they need, and it's gonna you know, phone density,
heart disease, even cognitive function, all of those.

Speaker 5 (42:52):
Things are affected by menopause, even diabetes. You know, everything kind.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
Of gets worse when you don't when you're not proactive
about health in this phase of life.

Speaker 3 (43:02):
So so then this next question maybe maybe well we'll
take both answers. We'll have you both answered. Don't tell
the other one what you're gonna say. Why should men
be paying attention to menopause?

Speaker 5 (43:20):
Well, yeah, go ahead, Well.

Speaker 8 (43:24):
I'll speak from experience. Okay, when my wife, when my
wife went through it, I didn't know really what was
going on back and forth to me. And there would
be nights when you know, it's too cold, it's too hot,
it's back and forth.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
You know, it's grumpy, it's back, you know.

Speaker 8 (43:41):
And of course I'm the type I want to fix it,
you know, Hey, tell me what's wrong, tell me we
can fix it, do this, And and there was nothing
she could really explain about that. And so I'm looking
back on it now, you know, I could see myself.
I knew I would get frustrated sometimes because I didn't
know what was going on or what I could do
to make things better, and and so and I just

(44:03):
didn't understand about what was going she did. She also
was she didn't really share a whole lot with me
either about it. You know, I knew some basic things,
but I didn't know that's what she was going through
until after the fact.

Speaker 9 (44:14):
And so now but now he tries to give me
advice all the time, but.

Speaker 3 (44:24):
Ill for me, and tell when you're off your mad,
it's like is that.

Speaker 5 (44:30):
She's like, are you taking that testostero.

Speaker 8 (44:33):
I'll just come in tap and looking okay, everything good today? Final, okay,
good bills shoot up in the office, you know, yeah, okay,
but you know, but but I learned. But I'm learning
as I go through that, you know, have I'm going
through that, and then also working with you know, working
with Shannon, you know, I understand more about how you

(44:54):
know how sometimes I know for me, pull back some,
you know, don't have to try to fix it, you know,
you know, need to try to fix it, just kind
of be more understanding, can be more you know, be
more of a of a partner with your what's your
partner with this? You know, So it's understanding that part.
So to me, that's what it's done for me, And

(45:15):
working with her has helped a lot with that too.
I've learned, I've gone through and understanding a lot more
about the sort of I can't can't know everything that
they go through, but I can I can see, I
can see it more, you know. You know, she told
me that, you know that my brain feels kind of foggy,
and you know, and you know, or she feels kind
of grumpy or whatever. I'm learning that. Okay, this is

(45:37):
a part of it also too, So pull back some,
give her some space, you know, we'll bring it back
around again.

Speaker 5 (45:45):
Well, we've also.

Speaker 6 (45:45):
Seen it with me with my hip pain because there's
a muscular skeleton component of mental pause. And I gained weight,
you know, and we looked back because we've been tracking
for for ten years and just you know, what we.

Speaker 5 (46:00):
Were doing then versus now.

Speaker 6 (46:03):
It's the difference is my age, right, So we've had
to change some of the things that we do, you know,
working out.

Speaker 5 (46:14):
I've had to exchange some of my expectations too. But
I think it's nice. It's a nice question.

Speaker 6 (46:21):
About what men can do. I think backing off is
a good answer. Honestly.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
I have had men come up to me and be like,
when are you going to do something for men? I'm
kind of like, yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:38):
I don't want to ask it that way, but like
I've asked you, Yeah, this is this is going to
sound pretty self centered.

Speaker 2 (46:47):
But this is what this whole show is self centered.
What do you mean? What are you talking about? Right?

Speaker 3 (46:55):
Okay, but.

Speaker 4 (46:57):
Have you thought about maybe having classes for idiot husbands
who don't understand, like to prepare them or like teach
them something, because you know, the health class didn't prepare
me for this at all, you know. And and I
I could read on my own, but maybe that I

(47:18):
could get bullshit information from you know RFK, so like
I need have you thought about adding like.

Speaker 3 (47:27):
Into the doctor class.

Speaker 6 (47:29):
Yeah, and we have had couples come in, you know, both,
you know, just talking about the woman's health, not as
much the man's health.

Speaker 3 (47:39):
But yeah, no, the men don't need the health aspect
of it. But like, so learn But you.

Speaker 6 (47:44):
Know, even when I was a resident, I didn't learn
anything about menopause an ovgi N resident, you know. So
I'm training to be a women's health expert nothing about menopause.

Speaker 5 (47:56):
So we have so far to go.

Speaker 6 (47:58):
As far as education just of even doctors, you know,
other people taking care of menopausal women. I think that
the men's class is a little bit going to be later.
I love that people are asking about it. I think
that's great. But if women know more about it, hopefully
they can you know, dialogue with their partners.

Speaker 5 (48:21):
You know.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
I have that question earlier, and I guess you've kind
of answered it there. It's like, right, obviously, and maybe
this is changing more now. It' say it over the
last couple of years, but no one's ever talked about
menopause or it's like again, hush hush, And I was
going to ask in the actual feeld of medicine. Is
that the same? Like are people talking about it? I

(48:45):
guess what you're saying there. If they're not being trained
on it, it's not happening there. So how do we
even get it to policy or even a general conversation
if the medical field isn't doing it. That's very changing.

Speaker 6 (48:57):
I mean, OBGYN is so folks on fertility and deliveries,
which is an awesome part of being a woman. I
love taking care of people in that phase and have
my own kids.

Speaker 5 (49:09):
But we're more than that.

Speaker 6 (49:11):
You know, not everybody is pregnant in their life, but
every single woman goes through menopause. So I think the
lack of solutions and data kind of has also kept
doctors not really talking about it. I mean, I know,
even a couple of years ago, it's like, I'd love
to take care of Coach and I were talking about

(49:32):
writing a book about menopause and weight loss. I was like,
that's the you know, that's how we're going to get
rich because everyone's asking me questions, right, And then I'm like, we.

Speaker 5 (49:41):
Don't have anything to say. But that's changing. That's changing.

Speaker 6 (49:46):
There's a lot more hope, there's more data coming out
I mean, I don't know what's going to happen with
these NIH cuts, but there is people thinking about funding
and menopause.

Speaker 5 (50:00):
Now.

Speaker 6 (50:01):
But a lot of my friends when I left the
cult of corporate medicine or like menopause you're crazy, Like
it's so annoying. They just complain all the time, you know,
we can't really do anything, Like even my Obgian friends
were saying that, And I think it's just because it
takes an hour for me to find out what's going

(50:21):
on with people, and.

Speaker 5 (50:22):
That's just not possible in a corporate medicine.

Speaker 3 (50:25):
No, it's just not possible.

Speaker 5 (50:28):
So the answer is no. Doctors don't really talk about menopause,
you know.

Speaker 6 (50:33):
And there is a stereotype of like a grouchy, hot
lady with like the picture of Margarita's like from the
seventies show that you know that character.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Yeah, and there are a lot of mood disturbances. But
I do have to say, as the woman on this
show right now, some of our anger is righteous anger.
So sometimes you guys don't do the dishwasher right, and
that's not menopause. It's just you're terrible at the dishwasher.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
You're you're in a safe place here. This is this
is a feminist show. Despite the fact that.

Speaker 5 (51:09):
I'm just saying I got to speak up for we'll
do it.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
As you should know.

Speaker 3 (51:13):
Yeah, we're want to appreciate that. So, speaking of speaking up,
how can people get in touch? How can people you know,
if they want it, they're interested, they want to book
a session. I don't know what to even call it,
but like just to find out more if they.

Speaker 6 (51:27):
So our website, thank you for showing it. It's menostart
dot com. Emmy, I know dash s T A r
T dot com. That's the best way or my email
Scatherine at menostart dot com.

Speaker 5 (51:40):
Those are the best ways right now.

Speaker 6 (51:44):
Yeah, and we'd love to partner with anyone on their
healthcare journey in this phase of life.

Speaker 4 (51:51):
So we'll make sure that we uh, we're gonna post
clips of the show, uh, you know, all through next week,
so we'll we'll tag you and all of that.

Speaker 3 (52:01):
We also we found your instagram. We tagged we tagged
the instagram, so.

Speaker 2 (52:05):
We should write you ever write some copy for us,
and we should have like this should be one of
our own ads.

Speaker 3 (52:11):
Yeah, you want to want to be one of our
sponsors or.

Speaker 2 (52:14):
Anything, Yeah, exactly right.

Speaker 5 (52:20):
I just want to advocate for coach. He has a
lot of opinions on a lot of different things. If
we like.

Speaker 2 (52:27):
Opinions on this show, but always looking for a day off,
So yeah.

Speaker 3 (52:32):
We want to day off. We'll tell you, hey, do
you ever and even for somebody who doesn't do ship
around here for me?

Speaker 8 (52:43):
See see she she does like because I get going.
And then she because we started talking about documentaries and
about the healthcare and to them and about you know
I have we have different issues as far as race.
We have great discussions. There's great discussions.

Speaker 2 (52:58):
For our show.

Speaker 3 (52:59):
Yeah, it sounds like our show. So we'll have you
back for.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
That show on their network.

Speaker 3 (53:04):
Yeah, you want to show on the network.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
It doesn't need We could be the medical chip Chat.

Speaker 2 (53:12):
We're doing better numbers than this.

Speaker 3 (53:15):
Watch just put them on and then Skyrocket they're gonna.

Speaker 2 (53:18):
Be like t Belt radio.

Speaker 3 (53:24):
All right, we'll talk offline about that.

Speaker 2 (53:27):
Forget about that. I think.

Speaker 4 (53:30):
It's one third of the ownership of this this year
for the network.

Speaker 5 (53:35):
Has a lot of work, but it's scary times in healthcare.
So I'm glad you are shining a light on that.

Speaker 3 (53:43):
We do our best. One of the five things that
we never shut up about. It's like healthcare, basic economics, climate, climate,
and nuance and and just like nuance in general, but
like around specific things so.

Speaker 5 (54:03):
Specific.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
Yes, I told you earlier when we started, I said,
I don't know if you've really gotten this nuanced thing,
working on it.

Speaker 3 (54:15):
Getting there. About soccer, that's another important thing that we
argue about. It's good that's coming up.

Speaker 4 (54:27):
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we'll go ahead and hit our first break of the show,
because you know we're an hour in and that's that's.

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Speaker 5 (55:16):
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Speaker 2 (55:20):
Everybody, we will be tuned in.

Speaker 5 (55:22):
Now I'll google that and then add it to my website.

Speaker 3 (55:26):
We're helping people stand up for the cause. Hey, hey,
we're gonna go take a break before we say something
else wildly inappropriate. Thank you so much for joining us.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
Thank you and.

Speaker 3 (55:43):
Confident Coach Washington, thank you for hanging out with us.
We really appreciate it. We're gonna take a break. You're
listening to chip Chat on Beltway Radio and beyond.

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Speaker 3 (56:12):
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Speaker 5 (56:32):
Something is off.

Speaker 11 (56:35):
Something, Something is in the bay tonight. Something smells fishing and.

Speaker 5 (56:46):
We ate English, thinking.

Speaker 11 (56:49):
To myself, what the hell is this?

Speaker 12 (56:55):
Sex is good, but.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
Please do better.

Speaker 10 (57:01):
You need to get that pH balance to get a baby.

(57:39):
Let's crack, crack, crack a window. Let's crack, crack, crack
the door. Don't blame the cat, don't blame the dog.

Speaker 2 (57:48):
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Speaker 5 (57:50):
Baby.

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(59:03):
the door. Don't blame the cat. Don't blame the dog
that DH balances off.

Speaker 5 (59:09):
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Speaker 10 (59:11):
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Speaker 1 (59:29):
All right, walking back, you chip yet here and go
wait radio and beyond that from your host, Chip with
me is test and Brian.

Speaker 2 (59:36):
Must be stopped.

Speaker 13 (59:38):
Joe to Brian to Brian, Brian dag after this just
lovely segment we just did we decide to put on.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
I don't even know.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
Like, first of all, all right, what's the name of
this AI monstrosity?

Speaker 2 (59:56):
Brian?

Speaker 12 (01:00:00):
You heard they heard you go.

Speaker 2 (01:00:04):
That's obvious.

Speaker 12 (01:00:05):
It's perfectly perfectly theme for what you guys are talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
The leg of this thing.

Speaker 12 (01:00:11):
It's all AI.

Speaker 3 (01:00:12):
My friend doesn't even give it a fake name.

Speaker 12 (01:00:15):
Uh, I think there was a fake name.

Speaker 2 (01:00:17):
What's your prompt for this?

Speaker 3 (01:00:19):
Did you make a song or you googled it and
it already was there?

Speaker 12 (01:00:24):
Uh, here's here's the deal. I I follow this thing
uh on Instagram and pretty much it's like, you know,
it's all these are like quot unco black artists and yeah,
it's called AI for the culture.

Speaker 3 (01:00:45):
No, you know what.

Speaker 2 (01:00:51):
Enough? We don't know enough we've heard enough. It's just
there we go, all right, I've heard enough.

Speaker 12 (01:00:59):
I want to remember the slap you know I got
don't have some actual This is actual you know information.
So pretty much the song is actually based on an
actual person. And there is a black this black person
by the name of what was his name? It was

(01:01:25):
George something, and he pretty much, you know, he pretty
much it was like, you know, he had he was
like one day he just had enough and he's you know,
he ends up being like he wore an actual suit.
Uh that said slapman or you know, pretty much slapman
kind of like you know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:47):
What was that.

Speaker 12 (01:01:47):
It was like back in you know, remember that old
movie from Damie Wayne's you know, you know, blank Man.
So it was like he wore this suit. It was
you know, mind you was supposed to be funny, but
he was serious about certain things. So pretty much the
song was based off about that. So but yeah, but this, yeah,
it's again random.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
I mean I I.

Speaker 12 (01:02:13):
It's ai for the culture. A lot of a lot
of a lot of a lot of good you know,
the beats, everything is cool, and it's once you started
hearing the lyrics, it's like it's funny as hell.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
Wait a minute, are we sure that that some like
racist clansman white guy is in behind this program?

Speaker 12 (01:02:35):
Most of these, like I said, most of these songs.
If my the like, there's this one track I would
I'll play that maybe next week. That you really think
is like maybe al some like dude wrote this so
but honestly, no, honestly, it's again. It's this is what
pretty much was the first track I ever heard.

Speaker 3 (01:02:55):
From this show to play stuff we don't even check.

Speaker 2 (01:02:59):
But this is.

Speaker 12 (01:03:02):
Cool actually has been getting a lot of followers, and
I'm sure it has. But but this one track, this
one track, I played it like several times because it's.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
All right, all right, that was a very interesting aside.
You know, I'm sometimes less it's more and I should
understand that and ask the wrong questions. And now I
got answers that maybe I didn't really want the answers to.
But that's okay, all right, AI for the culture the
next next monsor we need to get you know what,
we might as well at this point, you know what,

(01:03:39):
all out of the Arctic shon coach and there and
they're doing their read and then we'll go p h
balance AI. Right after.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
The background under them.

Speaker 12 (01:03:52):
You know, give it the beat or give it the beat.

Speaker 8 (01:03:55):
Let me have the be there we go.

Speaker 2 (01:03:57):
They can be the back exact. Oh god, no, we're
gonna get the wrong type of listeners. Maybe no, no't hey,
no no no no, he said, well you focused on listeners.

(01:04:19):
Oh god, yeah, let's do my favorite part of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:04:23):
Let's do some headlines.

Speaker 2 (01:04:25):
Yes, let's do it.

Speaker 3 (01:04:28):
Okay, Uh, here we go. Uh you want to go
first or second?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Sure, I'll go first. Let's try just move on from
ye for the culture. Donald Trump went to West Point
to give a speech to the graduating Army officers who
would be protecting our great nation from threats for a generation.
So naturally, he discussed golf, let's wrong with that and
trophy wives for about forty five minutes before his trophy bribe,

(01:04:56):
borrowed an Army V and left. That's right. She obviously
would drive. She was gone.

Speaker 4 (01:05:05):
Not to be outdone, Jadie Vance also gave a speech
to some young graduates of the Ashley Furniture Outlet and
Repair School.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
There were many casualties.

Speaker 2 (01:05:13):
Oh god, lay off the victorian. Trump also took time
out of his golf weekend, which he's the President. That's
why man yet on the tarm pack about how pissed
off he was at Putin. He was kind of angry,
kind of no word yet at home, which window Trump

(01:05:35):
will be falling out and it will have to be
a larger than average Soviet model.

Speaker 3 (01:05:41):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:05:43):
Taco Bell released a new menu item, an orange shell
taco full of chicken, available only to Wall Street Bros.
And it has its own special dip, play that taco dip.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
Play the taco dip. Isn't this just the Dorito talk?

Speaker 8 (01:06:01):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:06:02):
Yeah, it's a doo loco taco. Yeah, that's hey, if
that's what you want to call him, that makes sense
to me. You know, President Dorito's locos taco.

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
He sounds like.

Speaker 4 (01:06:16):
He's for anybody who doesn't know why I keep referencing
this and the chicken thing. Wall Street has coined this
new term taco, which is Trump always chickens out.

Speaker 3 (01:06:26):
So whenever there's a tariff, he's going to back off
from it. Whenever there's a threat, he's going to back
off from it. And they're they're figuring out how to
play what they call the taco dip, And it.

Speaker 4 (01:06:37):
Looks like a taco where he talks down the price
of something, buy it at the bottom of the thing,
and then catch it on the on the way up,
so it's.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
And then the reporter.

Speaker 4 (01:06:52):
It is, yeah, well, but for if you're playing the market,
I mean, you'll let him do it. You can take
advantage of it too, if you've got any little bit
of liquidity there. But uh, the reporters asked him about this, like,
what do you make of people, you know, saying taco
Trump always chickens out and instead of saying people say things.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
I guess that's you know whatever. He he like spent
twenty five minutes angrily bashing the reporter like she was
the one that came up with this reporter if.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
You asked these terrible, nasty it's a nasty question, you know,
like she's just asking them.

Speaker 3 (01:07:27):
She didn't write it anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:07:31):
Okay, go ahead, all right, everyone's favorite tech supports South
African Elon Space Space Exit launched another starship rocket, which
for once, did not explode right away. That's inevitable. Happened
in about forty five minutes, which is the same amount
of time Elon spent in the government, which is true.

(01:07:54):
But he did a lot of.

Speaker 8 (01:07:55):
Damage in forty minutes, just like the rocket.

Speaker 2 (01:07:58):
Yeah that's fine.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Okay, Liverpool won the Premier League and they had a
parade and just for the record, I have been here
the entire time.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Oh no, no, they would have called you the terrorist. Yeah, yeah,
you would have been called terrorists.

Speaker 3 (01:08:12):
Well they didn't call that guy a terrorist.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
Who was the white British Man?

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
Sounds about white, sounds about what.

Speaker 2 (01:08:19):
It's so insane, And they were like to go out
and be like everyone, don't jump to conclusions about their
race and who they are. That's immediately I knew there
was white.

Speaker 3 (01:08:29):
I was like, what, they never do this because you
remember the last time everybody like freaked out and started
bombing mosques and stuff when that wasn't also correct, But like,
did they say anything about who the guy was or
what the motives or anything were.

Speaker 2 (01:08:43):
You haven't got to that yet. They almost feel like
they're kind of protecting him.

Speaker 3 (01:08:48):
I'm just saying I was here, you were here on
this side of the park.

Speaker 2 (01:08:52):
You didn't run in people.

Speaker 4 (01:08:54):
Evertonian's marked safe from getting run over at a Premier
League championship parade.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
Look, I'm just saying they're good people on both sides.
Many fine people, many fine people on both sides, all right,
staying over on my side at the pond there. King
Charles took a break from milling about Buckingham Palace to
visit Canada, where you delivered a speech to Parliament and
a puck to a street hockey face off.

Speaker 3 (01:09:19):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
In other world leader news, French President Emmanuel Macron was
caught on video being shoved by his wife in the
face or does the French call it four play?

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
South African President Cyril is it rama posa, rama posa?
I thought I had it right. It took a well
deserved vacation after his visit to the unfortunately named White
Genocide House. While on his break, Ramaposa was seen franky
floating paper airplanes and tossing him towards a cardboard stand

(01:09:55):
up of Donald Trump.

Speaker 4 (01:09:58):
In New York, the trial of Seawan He Combs continued on,
featuring crying salacious details and tales of violence.

Speaker 3 (01:10:06):
And that was just from the sketch arts.

Speaker 2 (01:10:09):
God, that sketch is just making his money. He'll be
viral forever. The Diddy trials taught us some incredible information,
like did he blew up Kit Cutty's car with molotole
cocktail and not with what what had get and not
with what had guessed a bag of flaming hot cheetahs
in baby oil.

Speaker 3 (01:10:30):
That's I mean, you know, real stars.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Julie and Todd Christly were pardoned by Trump, and while
they will be coming out of federal prison, Todd still
won't be coming out publicly for some time.

Speaker 6 (01:10:43):
That.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Wow, Oh God, I don't care. You remember what happened
to Gawker? There's anything wrong with that? There's nothing wrong
with that. God, live your truth. Everybody should do that.
We should accepted the tape. Brothers Tristan and Andrew have
been charged in the UK with rape, assault in human trafficking.

(01:11:06):
Human trafficking is a little different in Britain than in
the US because they drive on the left. That's crazy. Wow.
Also shout out to Tristan and Andrew talking about being
black men h accused of crimes. Wait they're what yeah
you hear that anyways? Yeah? Solid somewhere news news, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:11:30):
Breaking breaking news. Another one drop work.

Speaker 2 (01:11:34):
Look, you know I want to be black, to be black,
I guess you gonna be black? I mean, you know whatever,
no identify like can you be like?

Speaker 6 (01:11:43):
No?

Speaker 2 (01:11:44):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:11:44):
Thank you like, we'll take the pope, but not you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
I mean, you know, like if you take that in
the initial like the Haitians as they start their revolution,
Like yo, if you were anti slavery, you could come there.
You could be black, like yo, if you were anti
the anti slavery, you could come and be I.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Hate French people.

Speaker 2 (01:12:06):
Exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:12:07):
Yeah, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:12:09):
Texas passed a law to post the Ten Commandments in
all public school classrooms, likely violating the First Amendments Establishment cause.
But don't worry, No kids in Texas will be harmed,
as they already stopped teaching reading ages ago.

Speaker 3 (01:12:23):
And that's deadlines. Hey, all right, you want to do
some rundown or do you want to take a break?
All right, let's do some rundown. Now we've come to
the part show called the rundown. This is where I
tell you about some stuff that's gone out in the news.
If we were professionals, it would sound a little something
like this.

Speaker 14 (01:12:46):
From Beltweit Radio and Beyond in Washington, d C. I'm
emmy nominated TV news man and just bonafide sexual beast,
Chase Scott Smith. And this is the part of the
show where I tell some stuff about the world. Maybe
not me, but somebody else is gonna tell some stuff
about what's happening in the news. Sou what's going on
in the news, fellas?

Speaker 3 (01:13:03):
Thanks? All right. So this special edition of Rundown is
called Trump in Court, and this is a frequent topic
on this show. This one's called told you all this
was gonna happen. Now, from the time that we printed
this part of the show where we told you all
this was gonna happen, more stuff has happened. So we're

(01:13:26):
gonna have to do it like we added that, So
it's we're gonna have to do this like a little
bit of a timeline. Here's the things that happened. Trump
did a bunch of tariffs under what authority is unclear.
He was using a law which is I think it's
called AIPA.

Speaker 4 (01:13:45):
Uh that's the initials anyway, And basically it says that
if there's an emergency, the president can do certain things.
A national emergency, the president can do some things that
normally would be Congress's job. Congress, as the Article one
branch of the government, is the only taxing authority.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
In these United States.

Speaker 4 (01:14:08):
The president can't issue any taxes, duties, tariffs or otherwise,
he can sign off on them, but Congress has to
do that. The Trump administration interpreted in a new way
that had never been done before. This Emergency powers Act
to say that if there's a sufficient national emergency, that

(01:14:30):
the president can unilaterally impose tariffs and other such import taxes,
specifically import taxes, not bans on certain things. Right, because
that's spelled out specifically in the law, that if he
wanted to ban certain objects or certain things from coming
into the country or certain people, he could do that.

Speaker 3 (01:14:51):
But tariff was a new thing. The word doesn't even
appear in the law, the word tariff. So New York
and a bunch of other states and several companies, there
were twelve states and a bunch of people. One hundred
and forty eight House members joined this lawsuit. Were like, hey,

(01:15:14):
that's not how the Constitution works. You can't just do
taxing without being Congress. And the Trump people Congress.

Speaker 2 (01:15:23):
Has jumped up to do any of this on other things.
It's rare that Congresses wanted to say, be Congress because
this is a rare, a rare thing.

Speaker 3 (01:15:32):
One hundred and forty eight House Democrats, right, and a
bunch of state attorneys general, so like somehow the Attorney
general of Illinois had to stand up on Congress's behalf.

Speaker 2 (01:15:45):
Which I guess is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:15:47):
But anyway, so they go to court, and the court
that they go to is the International Court of Trade
or the Court of International Trade.

Speaker 4 (01:15:56):
Sorry, and this is one of their People think there's
such like the courts, right, but there's there's several kinds
of courts.

Speaker 3 (01:16:04):
But this is one that has judges that are appointed
for life. It isn't an administrative court. It's not like
the immigration courts or tax court which or Social Security
court which all those are administrative and executive branch courts.
They're not really like judicial branch courts. This is a
judicial branch court. It lives in New York City. Its
job is to sort out things that are international trade

(01:16:28):
related and so, and oftentimes it hears cases with just
one judge, but in this case, it hurt this case
with a three judge panel because of the significance of
it and that they needed the answers and they needed
it quick. And the three judge panel came back unanimously
like ah nah, this is definitely not okay, and they

(01:16:48):
put an immediate, immediate stop to this no tariffs okay
at all.

Speaker 4 (01:16:55):
And there were two categories. There was the reciprocal tariffs
that he did where he did that dumb thing in
the rose garden where he was like pulling out tabs
and like reading numbers.

Speaker 2 (01:17:04):
That liberation day, that liberation.

Speaker 4 (01:17:06):
Day, yep, where he taxed the penguins, and then also
the taxes that he unilaterally imposed on Canada, Mexico, China
and a few other places citing a fentanyl crisis, which
again not how this law is written.

Speaker 3 (01:17:22):
So immediately struck them down. That was the story. By
this afternoon, two sets of appeals have happened already, one
in the District Court of Washington, d C. The federal
District Court for Washington, d C. And then one that's
in the also just the federal district Court, which is
the court for like things that are federal but not

(01:17:46):
necessarily in the district of DC. District meaning different things
in this case, Yes, district to us means.

Speaker 4 (01:17:53):
The district district to the court is like it just
is a level of court above circuit, you know, okay,
or below circuit.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
I should say, okay, they ruled that, like, yeah, this
is appealing.

Speaker 4 (01:18:12):
We can they let him keep the terrors while it's
going through the appeals process, which is gonna happen like
on Tuesday or something like that. So if if the
shock June fifth, if the shock that the tariffs have
caused the economy of the world haven't been.

Speaker 3 (01:18:31):
Bad enough in the space of a day, in the
space of a few hours, we're on again, off again,
on again, off again, on again, and like now there's
this weekend period. So like, if you're trying to buy
a thing, tough shit, it's not happening. Don't buy anything,
Like the price is going to change five minutes from now.

Speaker 2 (01:18:52):
Well, see, there's the problem of right there with you
actually telling people not to buy things. And where the
issue comes from the administration, right, is that you take
a very good economy, right for all the issues that
it has, and a lot of those issues are like
macro issues, right, that are bigger than the moment distribution
being right. Yeah, yeah, it's a it's a bigger moment.

(01:19:14):
But there's there's policy, right, taxes, but a humming economy,
but a humming economy, right, and you decide to blow
it up, and you inject in it with something that
no one is really able to deal with Folks can
deal with inflation, right, because like there's a point of
it where it gets hides and we know that there

(01:19:35):
are there are mechanisms right with higher interest rates that
will try to break the back of inflation. But when
you have uncertainty, right, there's nothing that can be can
be done. And now, right, am I gonna go out? Right,
let's just say I want a car? Am I gonna
go get the car? I probably should go get the
car right now. But the couple of questions I have

(01:19:56):
to ask myself is one, are the terrifrices going to
us this up and down to the point where I don't, like,
I don't really know what a fair price of the
car is gonna be right based on the taxes. But
then also too, with interest rates where they're at, and
even for me, decent kind of credit like borrowing money
is very expensive and uncertainty it was just a little

(01:20:21):
while ago, which again, and I know a lot of
folks will attack and say, you don't know high interest
rates fair? But like for me, for us, this is
very high for us right now comparatively to what we're
used to. But it goes back to this uncertainty and yeah,
like the courts like none of this right. I'm happy

(01:20:41):
that the courts are kind of intervening in this, and
this is helpful. It's not gonna change the damage that's
already done. And I think the fall is going to
be very treacherous. I think that is gonna be where
we see this come to back to school time. I
think this is where we see everything kind of employe.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
I think you're right, and I think that to your point,
like the damage being already done. There was a planet
money I was listening to about how the on again
off again tariffs like even if they just disappeared immediately
right now, Like what the costs are in the ripples
through the economy are massive and in some cases unseen

(01:21:21):
except for the people that are experiencing, which could be
the business owners, could be the people employed by those people.
It could be the people who are their customers, could
be the people who are their suppliers. There's so many
sides to this, which eventually includes all of us. The
damage is done in two ways.

Speaker 4 (01:21:38):
One those concrete examples of the price fluctuations of people,
you know, sort of just drawing up the money out
of the system in general, and just sitting on it
because they don't know what's the right thing to do.
But there's also this sort of like fundamental trust in
the system of the American economy that is now irreparably damaged.

(01:22:03):
And this goes not just to the economy too. I
heard somebody was talking recently about like making a deal
with Iron. Okay, if Trump makes any kind of a deal,
there's absolutely nobody who believes that this guy can mean it.
And just because it's him, and we as Americans understand that, Okay,
Donald Trump doesn't keep promises and won't honor treaties or

(01:22:26):
follow laws, the rest of the world doesn't draw that distinction.
And so now the rest of the world is like
the Americans are no good for anything they promise.

Speaker 3 (01:22:37):
And that could be true for futures contracts. It could
be true for purchases of big ticket multi year things.
I mean, you're talking about people try to buy airplanes,
so there's a multi year investment. You're putting in an
order for an airplane that's going to get delivered three
years from now, four years from now, you're putting in
order for shipping right ships being built, or truck fleets

(01:23:00):
or any of these kind of big things. Tractors. You know,
the price of a tractor now is something like fifty
percent higher than it was a year ago. You know,
farmers need to upgrade their equipment. Construction needs to upgrade
their equipment, They need to replace things as they wear out.
All of these things matter and their long term investments.

(01:23:21):
If you've got the rest of the world that no
longer trust the United States to hold up to their
end of a bargain, no matter what the bargain is,
we could find ourselves completely cut out of the world
economy with no capacity to recover. Ever, why would anybody,
I mean, in the same way that there's generations of
people who won't buy a Japanese car, won't buy a

(01:23:42):
German car, right, there's still that echo is still there
even eighty years later.

Speaker 2 (01:23:48):
So I don't think we're I just I mean, it's possible, right,
But I think that the thing again which will drive
this laugh at me saying it's just like I think
the American consumer is still very resilient and everything is
being thrown at them, and we've saw it through the
inflation crisis as well too. The American consumer continued on

(01:24:13):
and maybe it's not at the same level. I don't
think it can be because again, prices of things will
go up, and if there's not anything on the shelves
to buy.

Speaker 3 (01:24:22):
Our ability to buy stuff is unrivaled.

Speaker 2 (01:24:25):
By that. That's the problem and the problem because and
and that's where I think about this a lot is like,
all right, well, I think Americans will still figure out
a way to buy it, but if it's not there
then they can't buy it, or if it's scarcity, that
ends up throwing something into the oventially the economy that
I don't think we've dealt with. I've never been a

(01:24:46):
part of this anything like this, so I don't know.
It'll be very interesting. I think the fall will be
the big tail. I think it's gonna be a cold winner.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
I think snowstorm but for months.

Speaker 2 (01:24:57):
Yeah, you know, nuclear win of the economy. To be honest,
there you go.

Speaker 4 (01:25:03):
The penguins are coming, all right, speaking of things like that, NPR,
so our my favorite source of information and news is
public radio.

Speaker 3 (01:25:15):
I don't want to speak four test but I will.

Speaker 2 (01:25:18):
Yeah, I have my w et eight thing just came
in the mail today.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Yeah, right, we need our public broadcasting. It turns out
the whole country needs for public broadcasting. NPR and three
Colorado public radio stations filed suit on Tuesday in federal
court against the Trump White House over the president's executive
order that purportedly bars the use of congressionally appointed funds
for NPR and PBS. Now, we do need to be clear.

(01:25:44):
Congress doesn't give money to NPR. It's not a federal agency.
The word national, it doesn't mean it's owned by the government.
It's not a propaganda network by all scores.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Just to be also very clear, by all possible objective
measures of bias in reporting, NPR and PBS score as close.

Speaker 3 (01:26:08):
To the middle as one can possibly get. They are
the meatball strike through the center of the plate as
you can possibly get. And part of the reason that
the public radio public media has always been so middle
of the road is because they do depend almost entirely

(01:26:30):
on the public for their funding.

Speaker 4 (01:26:33):
And if they diverse, right, if they alienate half of
the country, they won't be able to like Pledge Drive.
If you think it's annoying for a week, imagine if
it's three weeks, because they won't be able to here's
how you know. Okay, pacifica radio another public radio outfit,
a decidedly left wing public radio outfit. Our local station,

(01:26:55):
WPFW eighty nine point three FM. Pledge Drive is a
month long and they're raising like a tenth of the
money that WAMU is trying to raise, and it takes
that much longer because their audience is so much smaller. Okay,
so there you go. NPR doesn't get any money from

(01:27:15):
from the federal government, but the Corporation for Public Broadcasting
is appropriate, gets an appropriation from Congress, and it was
created by statute by Congress as an independent, non executive branch,
independent corporation. It's not an agency. It doesn't belong to

(01:27:36):
the government. The people who work there aren't eligible for
like government healthcare, they're not eligible for government retirement.

Speaker 3 (01:27:43):
They're not government employees. The Corporation for Public Broadcasting disperses
money to local radio and TV stations, mostly for things
where they're starting up or buying new equipment or you know, uh,
upgrading the stuff that they've got so that they can
then continue their mission to serve the public in the

(01:28:05):
area where they broadcast. That's the mission and the job
of the Corporation for Public Broadcasts. Local public radio stations
pay NPR for their content.

Speaker 4 (01:28:18):
And so when you hear us talk about like local
station versus the mothership, the local station, a lot of
local stations produce their own content. That's often done with
money from corporation for corporation for public broadcasting. But then
the money that they raised to pledge drives and donations
and all of that stuff, they use that to pay
NPR for Morning Edition or for All Things.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
Considered, or American public Media, for favor.

Speaker 3 (01:28:44):
For marketplace or for you know, wait, wait, don't tell me,
or any of these things that we all love, okay,
And they pay a fee for that, and that's that's
where NPR gets its funding, majority of it, and that's
what they use to produce those shows. In the Trump world,
what they think they're gonna do is tell CPD that

(01:29:06):
they can't give money to those stations if they're gonna
then use that money to buy content from NPR, thus
stripping money from NPR whose coverage they disagree with, which
again isn't biased. They just disagree with it because it
keeps reporting the things that are actually happening true. So NPR,

(01:29:26):
that's a long way of going about this.

Speaker 4 (01:29:28):
NPR went really into uh, they went into court, and
they they were very careful about some of the language
that they use.

Speaker 3 (01:29:36):
In the brief. They quoted uh Tesz's favorite justice uh Scalia,
your cousin, You want to you want to read this
quote here in the second paragraph.

Speaker 2 (01:29:47):
Oh, hold, ont'll make fun here.

Speaker 3 (01:29:50):
Yeah, it's not always obvious.

Speaker 2 (01:29:52):
It's not always obvious when the government has acted with
a retaliatory purpose in violation of the First Amendment. First Amendment.
Excuse me, but this wolf comes as a wolf. The
legal filing for the public Broadcasters states quote. The order
targets NPR and PBS expressly because, in the President's view,

(01:30:14):
their news and other content is not fair, accurate, or unbiased.
The line about the wolf, obviously was drawn from the
nineteen eighty eight descent by the late US Supreme Court
Justice Antonin Scalia, my fellow birthday buddy.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
I believe that's right. So uh, And that is to
say the wolf comes as a wolf, as opposed to
a wolf in cheap's.

Speaker 2 (01:30:36):
Clothing, exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:30:37):
That that was, That was the quote.

Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
So talking about the government, right, I just want to
stress that they're talking about the government is coming as
the wolf for the amendment that the the government initial
one created batshit the.

Speaker 4 (01:30:58):
Thing that you know, and what they're sort of talking
about is that a lot of times it's very difficult
because you know, when when the government, whether it's state, local,
or federal, retaliates or attacks something, they're smart enough to
know exactly do it directly, and so they come they
carve out these things, or they make some sort of
you know, weird rule or statement that specifically targets or

(01:31:22):
impacts one group, but they can plausibly say it wasn't
meant to do that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:26):
But Trump people are not that clever or don't give
a shit, and so they're just like, yeah, we hate NPR.
Fuck them. Take their money away, which again is not
federal money. It's like it's less than one percent of
their budget comes this circuitous route. So if you took
it now for the local station, so it's like fourteen

(01:31:46):
or fifteen percent, it would be really detrimental if you
shut down CPB. But again, you can't go to court
to do the courts have already said that this is
an independent agency. This isn't open and shut. Trump's gonna
lose on this again and uh and again and again
and again and again. So you know, even though this
is not the news, This is NPR, right, okay for that? Yeah,

(01:32:14):
hey go Blue Washington, Michigan. Guy. H all right, you
want to do a test talk or you want to
take a break, we can do.

Speaker 2 (01:32:24):
The test off. All right, powering through here? All right,
this love, this story is called penguin poop. I actually
actually saw this story and listened to it. So there's
something in the air down in Antarctica. Is it love?
Not exactly, it's his the pungent gas wafting off piles
of penguin guano.

Speaker 3 (01:32:46):
Yes, that guys, by the way, and that is just
to be clear.

Speaker 2 (01:32:52):
That's nothing. Penguins don't do that, No, not how bad
they get down. But thanks to the penguin's diet of
fish and krill, the millions of penguins that eat and
breed here leave behind obviously they're poop that's chock full
of nitrogen waste, which breaks down into ammonia. Who'd have

(01:33:13):
thought ammonia is a great thing, right, And according to
the study published today and the Communications Earth Environment, these
foul smelling fumes could help mitigate the impacts of covetation.
So when I read this store, basically what it was doing.
We're not agreeing the story hearing the story were you
read a few days ago. Basically, it's almost creating its

(01:33:34):
own gas above like the ice sheets, which is slowing
down the UV rays.

Speaker 6 (01:33:40):
Is that?

Speaker 2 (01:33:40):
Do I have that correction?

Speaker 3 (01:33:42):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:33:42):
So what the ammonia itself? Right?

Speaker 4 (01:33:46):
Yeah, the ammonia is helping form clouds essentially, so water
vapor in the air.

Speaker 3 (01:33:52):
In a vapor state, water is clear, you know, it's
it's dissolved in the air. Essentially, it's aerosolized, and it
doesn't reflect any sunlight. Really, you can't see water vapor.
What you can see when you see clouds is condensed
water vapor, so tiny, tiny droplets of water. But what
we know is that water doesn't condense easily unless it

(01:34:16):
has something to touch, whether that's a little bit of
dust or in the case of most of the rain
clouds that we've ever experienced in our lives, airborne bacteria.
Believe it or not, if it weren't for these bacteria
that are floating in the atmosphere, we wouldn't have rain.
And you'll even see like people say, cloud seating like that.

Speaker 4 (01:34:35):
You can you can introduce enough particulate into the air
that the water vapor will condense around those little tiny particles,
and then you've got little tiny droplets in that like.

Speaker 2 (01:34:48):
A saline solution as well too. I've heard the ships
like to have there.

Speaker 4 (01:34:54):
Yeah, And it's the same thing like when you see
the contrails you know, from the from the airplanes right
the they're they're making water vapor by burning fuel and
it's breaking down into water vapor and carbon dioxide. But
the water vapor is coming out the back and then
it's condensing, and that's why you can see it. But
you can't if you look at the plane flying over

(01:35:15):
right close to the engine, you can't see anything, but
it's just a little bit behind it. You can't because
that's still vaporized, but it's the condensed water that you
can see the droplets. So what's happening here is that
the ammonia fumes off the breaking down of the penguin
guano is creating so much particulate or enough stuff for

(01:35:37):
the water to condense around that it's forming clouds over Antarctica,
and the clouds are reflected. They're bouncing the sunlight back
up off the atmosphere and back out into space. So
somehow the penguins are like protecting their own climate from

(01:35:58):
our nightet.

Speaker 2 (01:35:59):
It's clear humans are gonna be the ones asked out
at the end of this and penguins and tigers and
everybody's gonna be it. When I read heard this story
the first time, I was like, oh what the whole
Jurassic life is gonna find a way like and maybe

(01:36:19):
it won't be our life, right, but these penguins are
gonna figure it out because the things I mean, obviously
the penguin's food source could end up killing them off
and that can all. But the one thing I know
the penguins are gonna continue to do as long as
to hear is ship.

Speaker 3 (01:36:35):
That's right.

Speaker 2 (01:36:36):
They're not gonna stop doing that and.

Speaker 3 (01:36:37):
Take down helicopters. They're gonna do two things. They're gonna
well the three things.

Speaker 4 (01:36:43):
Three things are are are sure in in penguin worlds poop,
taking out helicopters, and apparently taxes.

Speaker 2 (01:36:50):
I knew you guys are gonna say, exactly, make it
tax tax the penguins.

Speaker 3 (01:36:54):
So yeah, the earth is gonna heal itself. People are like, oh,
well the planets in trouble. No, no, no, no, the
plane will be fine, speaking of the planet doing stuff.
Have you seen these eruptions from Kilauea down.

Speaker 2 (01:37:07):
Here in Hawaii.

Speaker 3 (01:37:10):
And you're shooting fountains of lava a thousand feet into
the sky. Yeah, So imagine a jet of molten rock
shooting one thousand feet up. A thousand feet just is
one hundred stories. That's a tall ass building of lava
and it's it's rock, right, so it's very heavy.

Speaker 4 (01:37:32):
It's landing makes this incredible sound, and it gives us
a fuck all heat. I mean that the people filming
it are miles away with these big telephoto lenses. They're
still getting too hot.

Speaker 3 (01:37:45):
So it's crazy. Go look at it. There's video of
it all over the place, and it's it's wild.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
This is episode twenty three of the eruption cycle for Kilauea,
which is kind of like always going a little bit, you.

Speaker 2 (01:37:58):
Know, But that's an incredible height for that to.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Shoot up one thousand feet. It was only six hundred
and I was like, oh, well, that's pretty impressive. Sixty
story a building. Now, you don't know anything that's a
thousand feet tall around here. That's two Washington monuments.

Speaker 8 (01:38:19):
Crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:38:21):
All right, let's get onto some local trouble here ye here.
So here in Washington, we have a very expensive place
called George Washington University, where the first radio yeah that
you used to have a radio station featuring some guy called.

Speaker 2 (01:38:39):
Test out here WRGW, and.

Speaker 3 (01:38:44):
It is mostly known for being a top notch school,
right in terms of public policy, law, you know, and
medical right. GW is just one of the best. It's
also one of the most expensive. Yes, but they were
known for something else. This weekend and Brian, our producer,

(01:39:05):
happened to be there working. I think the camera that
caught this viral moment, is that right, Brian?

Speaker 12 (01:39:14):
Uh unfortunately, yes, that's correct.

Speaker 2 (01:39:16):
Oh well that sounds okay. I've been there.

Speaker 3 (01:39:20):
I don't own movies, okay, Brian, So tell us what happened.

Speaker 12 (01:39:26):
So during this lovely ladies commence the speech, that's Celia Culver.
She was pretty much the was honored, uh to, I
want to say she was like ballet victorian for the
Columbia School of Business. Not business, I'm sorry, it's clinic
School of Engineering and in College of Arts and Sciences,

(01:39:48):
Arts and Science. Yes, so Colombian. Yeah, so pretty much technique. Yeah,
actually yeah was originally Yeah, I let her pass. So
but anyway, she was like the honorary student to you know,
speak to her class and and all the great people

(01:40:12):
of of the you know and the audience and stuff
like that. So so normally, like everyone will know, they
submit a speech ahead of time to get approved by
everybody so they can speak it. So everything was running
smooth when she got up there. She she was doing fine,
and then all of a sudden she says with you know,

(01:40:33):
she literally said this, but my heart can't continue staying
saying this without saying this or whatever. And she went
on on this tear of saying, we got you know,
pretty much of GWS funding the Pala signed genocide. You know,
they're all this, we need we need open, uh, and

(01:40:56):
we needed the books open and make sure everything is
you know, where's my money going to and all that stuff.
And you're hearing all these, you know, these jeers and
cheers of what she was saying, and it was like,
oh lord, what's going on. So she said her speech,
you know, she gets the mixed reaction of a good

(01:41:17):
applause and a lot of people were booing it. She
sits back at her seat and then afterwards, when you know,
doing the procession, you know, getting your diploma and what
have you. There was like about her included like six
or seven students screaming, yelling free Palestine and everything, and
it got to the point where it's like, oh god.

(01:41:38):
And they had flags. They had like flags are sort
of like these scarves and stuff. They had it, but
it got confiscated by security because the administration told them to.
And then after her speech, pretty much after the procession,
the administrators you know, had to you know, apologize to
the audience saying, you know, the words where you're not

(01:41:59):
associate with GW blah blah blah and all that stuff.
So all in all, it's like I get where she
was getting at, you know, putting you know, the whole
issue of you know, what's going on over in Gaza,
you know, in the forefront. But keep in mind, just
last year GW had to close off a section of

(01:42:24):
their campus, pretty much their main section, which is associated
to their library because of Palestinian protesting, the pro Palestinian protesting,
and it that was a big deal then. So now
this it's kind of like, you know, okay, this is
now double duty on this and I don't think this

(01:42:44):
is gonna stop until whatever happens Gaza stops, so which
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:42:49):
Know and nor should it look I get because it like, like,
what do we.

Speaker 8 (01:42:55):
Expect from our college students?

Speaker 2 (01:42:58):
I don't. Isn't this what this should be? The expectation
almost and again they might not always be right. They
might not always again use like I guess or speaking
the actual like right, the proper terms of like or
like the way we would expect it and being around

(01:43:19):
for longest. But I just don't know what else you
expect from how one way or the other. Right. I
expect the college students to do this and I haven't.
I haven't seen the video, so I can't really speak
to it.

Speaker 11 (01:43:34):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:43:35):
I mean, yeah, twenty two year olds are idealistic crazy.

Speaker 12 (01:43:40):
I was there. Yeah, but keep in mind mind you
this again, this is about she's a journalist, he's a
future journalist, Okay for her to come out, Yeah, so,
because that's what pretty much at school is primary based
off of or she trying to be a few But
here's what I feel like. I agree with her and

(01:44:01):
disagree with her. I agree with the fact it's like,
yeah it you know, the the what's happening over there
needs to be addressed, needs to be talked about, needs
to be constantly mentioned.

Speaker 2 (01:44:12):
I get that.

Speaker 12 (01:44:14):
But what stood out to me was, and I mentioned
this to Chip, you know, in pregame, was Okay, you've
been in school for four years. You're claiming the fact
that since this recent issue between Gaza and Israel has
come about you still staying at school, you didn't leave.

(01:44:35):
I had this discussion with a couple of colleagues of
mine and it's kind of like, kind of like where
you at Tez. It's like one was saying the fact.
It's like, you know, I know there's issue here. You're young,
you you know, colleges are like this. He there's a
lot of issues going on in the world, and especially
if you're in America and you go to a big, known,
highly financed school, you figure this's like, hey, I gotta

(01:44:57):
say what I got to say because you know, because
we ain't doing it, you older people ain't doing so
I gotta say it. And again, in this modern day
commencement world where everything has been televised, yeah, you're gonna
be saying a lot and you're gonna get viral, just
like what missus Culvert has been. But at the same time,
it's kind of like you gotta there are certain powers,

(01:45:21):
and I recently saw something where it's like there's certain
individuals who has the power, and unfortunately for her, you know,
she has the powerful voice, which is one thing, but
you don't have the power to change everything. And I
think that's where I understand her frustration. I understand where

(01:45:43):
a lot of pro Palacitians supporters are having the frustration
because there's get to a point where you can say
all this stuff every time over and over and over again,
and it's like, but we keep going through the same cycle.
And it can be the same thing here with where
everyone we can protest about Trump and what he's done

(01:46:05):
and what he's saying, what he's doing on and stuff,
but it's like we're stuck with him for three more years.

Speaker 3 (01:46:10):
Yeah, but the futility of it, that isn't the reason
to stop doing it.

Speaker 12 (01:46:14):
I understand that. That's the thing. It's like the thing
is it is like, yeah, there was one thing that again.
Another another video I saw was the fact it's like
you can't stop mentioning, you can't stop the void your
voice of continuing going on and letting people know what's
really going on. On this planet. Okay, just the moment.

(01:46:35):
Like you said, you know, if NBR goes away, everything's dead.
I mean, honestly, you guys, because pretty much it's like
you're killing public people who have public perception of what's
going on on this planet instead of the typical corporate
way of NBC or CNN or Fox News, what have you.
You want to have those public kids, because they can

(01:46:56):
see a lot more, They see the underground stuff, the
constantly you know, you know, knows what's really going on
instead of just relying on you know, some guy.

Speaker 3 (01:47:06):
You know.

Speaker 12 (01:47:07):
I've dealt with, you know, the public aspect and the
corporate aspect of media, because the corporate media the only
show up whenever it's too bigger than than they can handle.
I mean it's it's like I the times where I've
dealt with anything happening and Montgomery County Council, I only
see the networks show up, like maybe there's something wrong

(01:47:28):
with Pepco and it's like, okay, pep go is an issue.
I see, Yeah, that's how they think and it and
it's and to me, it's like, okay, that's kind of
a disservice and you do need and I hear a
lot of people public is public saying it's like, we
need more public information what's going on? And I'm and
mind you going through what missus culbg's doing. It is that,

(01:47:52):
you know, kind of like that public perception of saying
it's like I'm maybe young, I know, but I feel
in my heart I have to say this, which again
I respect it, but then again, at the same time,
you got to get more seasoning to understand what's really
going on. And especially if you're calling out the school
that you're getting a diploma from, you know that now

(01:48:13):
you're baded by because you trust and believe the reunion
is gonna be ridiculous, that you're pretty much just like, okay,
you're giving a false premise of what really going on
because you really do you really know how much money
that your tuition is going through and where it's been
spent that because honestly, yeah, I do agree, not a

(01:48:33):
lot of people do know, because I've always had these
weird debates about where how you get all these crazy
fundings for you know, all these pro football schools, where's
this money going to?

Speaker 4 (01:48:45):
So what of what of her requests or demands was
to know where their their tuition money goes and that's
that's fair enough.

Speaker 3 (01:48:55):
And this you know, she the quote here was I
call in the class of twenty twenty five to hold
donations and continue advocating for disclosure and divestment.

Speaker 4 (01:49:03):
Okay, also fair enough, But understand this. You don't you
have a right to ask this question. The university might
not want to tell you this stuff. They I think
they probably should if they want to, you know, say
where their doowments are invested. That's fine, you don't have to,
but they don't have to. I don't think. Okay, it

(01:49:28):
is It is a thing.

Speaker 3 (01:49:29):
Where there become causes that are either so obvious that
you should be supportive of, or they are popular to
be supportive of, where the nuance and the detail of
it are not what you're are are are things that
a lot of the supporters skip and and it becomes

(01:49:53):
very complicated to start talking about divesting from Israel. I
think I don't want to put words or thoughts in
in Sicilia Kover's mind here, but there are a lot
of people who have this weird idea that the US
government or these universities or these companies are handing money

(01:50:14):
to Benjamin Net and Yahoo with which he is buying bombs,
and that isn't what's happening at all. Coca CoA is
bottling coke in Israel and selling it to people in
Israel and Jordan and everywhere else.

Speaker 4 (01:50:31):
Does that mean they're contributing to the bombing of Gaza?
I mean in a roundabout way, sure, because you know,
we all.

Speaker 2 (01:50:39):
Could look at we all could look at that and
say we're probably contributing to that, right because.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
Your tax money is.

Speaker 2 (01:50:44):
Going to this or in their case investments that yeah,
you're yeah, it can get it can get triggery. But
I think the question ends up being is that I
don't expect my twenty two year olds to understand that. Yes,
and I don't think for them the new I don't
really look for them to have the nuances because they're

(01:51:07):
still growing in a hope and I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:51:09):
Want them to That's fine.

Speaker 4 (01:51:11):
But like the flip side of this here also is
that the GW audience of professors and donors and all
of these other people. You guys have to know what
this is too, right, You know what these kids are
gonna say. If you can't handle criticism from an idealistic
recent college graduate. What are we doing using her four

(01:51:31):
minute platform to say this thing that, whether you agree
with it or not, will evaporate into the distant reaches
of the internet within minutes if you just let it.
If you can't handle that difference of opinion, you don't
really belong in that level of academia.

Speaker 2 (01:51:51):
Here.

Speaker 3 (01:51:52):
You have to be able to let somebody give a controversial, obnoxious,
entitled lany speech if they want to. Charlie Kirk exists.
I have to allow that he is gonna exist, Yeah,
and I have to just like choose not to give
him another ten minutes of my life and just let

(01:52:15):
him say his dumb shit and just continue to ignore it.
You donors can whether if you're enough, if you're making
enough money to donate.

Speaker 2 (01:52:26):
But these people with money are these many people with
money are soft, and you would think with people with
money would have more of it. I don't think to
be able to do a lot, a little bit more.
And that's where the frustration is. They very soft around
these things where it's like, oh, their feelings are heard
about this. Let the kids say what the hell they
want to say, and remember where this emotion comes from.

(01:52:46):
When people are feeling issues with like the aid not
getting to Palestine back. There's a lot like where this
raw emotion comes from can't be lost in it. And
that's why I'm just like the nuance. I can only imagine,
like the nuance should be for us right, for us
on we should be able to talk through the nuance
right around all of this here. But for the root

(01:53:07):
of it though that brings in evokes that this type
of irritation, this type of reaction at a commencement speech,
I think I can't really be that frustrated with this.
I think one of the big piece of this as
well is that in a commencement speech, right, this is

(01:53:28):
the graduating class. It takes away from everyone else that's
there to graduate a little bit, right and that that.
But but maybe that's not necessarily a bad thing. Maybe
again using her voice to put again, put eyes back
on the again genocide, which is really I think feel
feel comfortable.

Speaker 3 (01:53:47):
There's no other thing to call us.

Speaker 4 (01:53:49):
Yeah, so critical of of the way that Israel is
not Israel, but that the Benjamin Netyahu right wing extremist
government is perpetrating a genis against the people of Gaza
is perfectly legitimate as a matter of fact, for Israeli
Prime Minister Ahud Olmer.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Called it a war crime just this week, So it is.
And again, just to be very clear, being critical of
government policy of the State of Israel is not necessarily
is not anti Semitic, and it is not necessarily even
being critical of the existence of the State of Israel.
It is perfectly legitimate to criticize the behavior of a

(01:54:29):
particular government. And this this weird obsession with this, this
is coming on the you know, right in the same
week that we had the terrible shooting at the Capitol
Jewish Museum where to Israeli embassy staffers were killed by
a crazy person who was chanting Free Palestine. The chances

(01:54:50):
that that guy who came all the way from Chicago
really understands the complexities of the war and what's going
on over there are.

Speaker 2 (01:54:57):
Zero and takes away from what actual folks are doing
and trying.

Speaker 3 (01:55:01):
It's actually cause of actually trying to help the people
in Gaza.

Speaker 2 (01:55:07):
Yeah, it's not.

Speaker 3 (01:55:08):
It's all of this is to say that, as I've said,
I talked to Brian about this earlier, and I'll say
anytime we meaning the Jews hashtag the Jews are in
the middle of the conversation. It's a bad time. And
when something like this happens at a commencement and it

(01:55:30):
gets a lot of attention, it gives the people who
mean to do us harm, of which there's two main groups,
right The people who mean to do is harm. It
gives them fodder, It gives them this, It gives them
fuel for their campaign against reasonable Jews and the people

(01:55:50):
the anti Jewish extremists.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
Whether they're approaching it from a like destruction of the
State of Israel or whether it's from those white supremacist position.
Both of them are incompatible with each other, but they
both seem to have this one thing in common is
that they hate me. And there's a big, like flux
of stuff going on, and we're in the middle of it.

(01:56:13):
And that's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:56:14):
Okay, it's not good if Jewish people are the middle
of the conversation. The Republicans and the Trump people are
out here trying to kick people out of the country
because they're being critical of the way another country is
prosecuting a genocide against people within their own borders, and
they're doing it in my name without my permission, while

(01:56:38):
at the same time supporting the people who are making
a claim that my people are importing those same people
to replace the good, upstanding white people.

Speaker 2 (01:56:49):
So it's like but then the question ends up being right,
it falls upon Jewish people. But it's like to me,
I did to gets into the nuance. This is an
Israeli government right to me, it's rarely government policy at

(01:57:11):
this point, but the right in this country has made
this into anti semitic to a I don't know, what's
happening isn't a Jewish problem to me? Now, it's it's
that to me as I look at it, like, oh,
because Judaism comes in a lot of it, like food.
If you could go deep into it, you can't say

(01:57:31):
it's a Jewish problem. No, this is an Israeli government
response to again what Hamas ended up like they attack
that amaster and this is a heavy handed response that
at this point you're looking like you kind of raised everything.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
To the not just the response of like what they did.

Speaker 4 (01:57:52):
You know, this this whole thing about displacing everybody and
you know, using food as a weapon and all, it's
utterly reprehensible. There is no defensible position here. I don't
think there's anybody really making that argument. Or if they
are there, there maniacs.

Speaker 3 (01:58:06):
But the issue of people of Christians telling the Jewish
president of Harvard that he is presiding over anti semitism
is ass backwards.

Speaker 4 (01:58:26):
You can't tell me what anti semitism is, I'm the
Jewish one, just like I can't tell tes what anti
black racism is. It's not I'm I can't be the
one to define it because it isn't my thing. So
you know, whether it's Trump or Ted Cruz or any
of these these these go I'm like, you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:58:45):
Don't get to decide this at all, and shut up,
shut up, Just get out of here and shut the
fuck up. And if and if Steven Miller wants to
have a position on it, he is technically Jewish.

Speaker 15 (01:58:57):
Jewish, but he can shut the fuck up too, like
this isn't And if you can't handle being told to
shut the fuck up by a twenty two year old
whose name you're gonna forget in ten seconds, what the
fuck is wrong with you?

Speaker 5 (01:59:10):
Jesus Christ?

Speaker 2 (01:59:11):
Well, that's clear. It's the martial authoritarianism. It's clear. It's
clear as they like. It's because these institutions are afraid
of what we just talked about Yes, the w I
could assume is very frightened that. I mean, this is,
this is literally five blocks away from the white guy.

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
They don't they don't need the people coming cracking down
on them the way they're cracking down, or Harvard trying
to take their adowments or god knows what.

Speaker 2 (01:59:33):
But because it's about the money, like it is about
the money, because yeah, but stop doing it in my name.
I don't like terr Yeah, I mean that is.

Speaker 3 (01:59:40):
Not cool it And and if the ick factor of
the Trump people wasn't already a ninety nine percent, it's
now crossed in the north of one hundred. I mean,
it's so gross that you're claiming you're doing this to
protect me from what You're protecting me from a kid
speaking what the fuck I can handle it.

Speaker 2 (01:59:59):
You have Charlottesville as an example when there was no protection.

Speaker 3 (02:00:01):
Nobody's protecting me from them.

Speaker 2 (02:00:03):
No, it is I saw them get pardoned and there,
and they're the issue. Like that woman, right, I don't
like Again, why I'm not saying that she might not
again influence folks. I don't know if her message is
And again I'd like to let you say this here.
Her message doesn't seem as scary as the motherfuckers with

(02:00:24):
tiki torches and people running over people with cars. Like again,
that's saying that she couldn't influence people, right, but.

Speaker 3 (02:00:33):
She wasn't chanting about people.

Speaker 2 (02:00:35):
And that's the thing I didn't see anything in And
that was like again, she was like again walking around
trying to smack yamakas off people, right, like this.

Speaker 3 (02:00:42):
Calling for disclosure and divestment. She was not calling for violence.

Speaker 2 (02:00:47):
There was a right paper gangster type shit, right, let
us see the books we wanted, Like, all right, cool,
that's fine. I don't think I don't see any issue
with that. And again, I expect my twenty two year
olds in this nation to do that. I don't think
they should lose that type of spirit. Again, as long
as you're not getting to the point where it's violence
or again, like Jewish people can't walk to their classes

(02:01:08):
because they're worried about violence, or the same thing for
Arab folks they can't do it because that's where we
crossed these different lines. But if that's not happening, let
the woman speak.

Speaker 3 (02:01:19):
And it's crazy, and I'm sorry that Brian had to
get caught up in that. You know, as he's just
there to film it.

Speaker 2 (02:01:25):
He's I'm there to all. Just do my job, man,
that's all you can do. Okay.

Speaker 3 (02:01:32):
Speaking of graduations, there's another incident here in Wichita, Kansas.
Do you know that they had high schools in Wichita, Kansas.
I'm shocked, Yes, terrible. Oh it's a Catholic high school.

Speaker 2 (02:01:45):
No, they know.

Speaker 3 (02:01:47):
So this young man, his name was Austin Tran.

Speaker 4 (02:01:50):
I believe he was supposed to be given this speech
and then, you know, he turned down his speech and
it was like, you know, two and a half minutes
song or whatever, and then he didn't feel good about that.

Speaker 3 (02:02:02):
So they stayed up all night writing a better speech
and it was much longer. It went on for like
a good six minutes, you know, really long, and he
delivered that, and as a result, they like stripped him
of his valedictorian medal and a bunch of other stuff
in a very draconian response to a scheduling snaffo. I

(02:02:26):
don't know why this is a problem for the administration.
But then the community responded and they all got behind
Austin and they started like a petition to give him
his stuff back. I didn't see if they did they
eventually return his medal? I guess they did.

Speaker 2 (02:02:45):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (02:02:46):
The dean said that she returned the medal. She said
it was an easy decision to make. I don't regret
returning the medal because of what it means, and it
doesn't mean what I thought it meant before, and then
I have no use for it anymore. She said, not
articulate at all. This is the dean, This is the
dean of the school. Well, you know, it's what you tah.

Speaker 4 (02:03:05):
So in any case, uh, you know, again, grown ups,
if you're so bothered by uh, you know, young people speaking,
maybe you don't be an education.

Speaker 3 (02:03:16):
It just seems like the wrong field for you. I
don't know, I can't because.

Speaker 2 (02:03:20):
They're supposed to empower them to have these conversations. And
then again they're figuring life out.

Speaker 3 (02:03:27):
They need the bold uh you know, they need it.
And also this guy's mistake is that he was too
good a writer. I mean, come on, of all the
things to be upset.

Speaker 12 (02:03:35):
About, the funny thing was about it because initially he
wrote his initial speech had some humor in it and
stuff like that, and the administrators when they first saw it,
they felt like, no, it can't you know, they gave
him these weird rules and guidelines.

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
And can't make fun of the bishop, can't stuff.

Speaker 12 (02:03:57):
And it's kind of like you, okay, so you read again,
like you said, he rewrote it, submitted it, and then
he figures, like after he after the submission, he sees
it again, he reads it again and figures, let me
tweak it up a little bit more, and he just
missed the deadline to send him submitted again. And but
it's still it felt like, yeah, it made you know,

(02:04:18):
maybe a little longer, maybe added some more things to it.
But again it's like you said, it's like, can you
what what is the whole point of if you're going
to have a student up there to say what he
wants to say and then you're gonna give them these
weird guidelines, these weird rules and in restrictions and don't
say anything pretty much just like why have him up
there in the first place that they've had them some

(02:04:40):
random just have again a random adult up there that
no one knows unless it's you know, kermit. Yeah, yeah,
here we go. I feel like slept in a graduate today, yes,
oh lebed.

Speaker 3 (02:05:01):
Yes now.

Speaker 12 (02:05:06):
So but again it's it's it's like you said, it's like,
these are young people there, this is this is how
you're going to introduce them into the world. It's like, well,
you can say what you want to say, but you
really can't unless you change it a little bit so
you can be happy and I and everybody will feel
happy once they leave. But really, it's like it's not
gonna be you, It's gonna be somebody.

Speaker 2 (02:05:25):
We're slipping into it, man, Like this is it especially
around Like this is a high school. We first were
talking about the college. This is we're slipping in.

Speaker 3 (02:05:35):
Like you want to give the illusion that the kid
is the one speaking, but you're gonna have such a
heavy hand on what he can say or how he
can say it. That's fascism.

Speaker 2 (02:05:43):
Yeah, like, let's not do that.

Speaker 3 (02:05:46):
Speaking of fascism, this government they fired all the people
who do the weather stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:05:51):
And guess what that meant, right, died in Kentucky because
they didn't get an early warning about the tornadoes.

Speaker 3 (02:06:00):
Uh so you know, hooray you voted for this.

Speaker 2 (02:06:05):
I mean it's clear even the weather apps. Now it'll
be like it's raining, there's no rain, or it'll be like, oh,
it's very afternoon.

Speaker 3 (02:06:15):
My dad was complaining about how the forecast for Saturday
had changed so rapidly during the course of the day,
and I was like, Dad, it's because they're launching one
weather balloon every other day instead of to a day
from every site. They're not getting the data. They don't
have the information to crunch.

Speaker 8 (02:06:32):
It's clear.

Speaker 2 (02:06:33):
You can look at your weather app easily. If you
focus in on it and look at the forecast on there,
you'll realize that you.

Speaker 4 (02:06:39):
Can see the temperature predictions of widened. You can see
that the rain prediction times have widened. We've gotten used
to very precise weather forecasts that have been very, very
accurate for years now. And they just announced like the
you know, the hurricane predictions for for this hurricane season, unless,
of course, sharky drawing some different direction, it starts.

Speaker 2 (02:07:03):
The next week.

Speaker 12 (02:07:04):
I think it started this week because what happened yesterday
I felt like a tail end of a hurricane.

Speaker 3 (02:07:09):
Well, that's not how it works, Brian. You don't get
to do it by how it feels. But I guess
in the trumpet, Uh, yes you do, now you can.
Brian's the news service director. How many sharpies do you know?
And Brian, I think I got ten. Okay, yeah, yeah,
I can chase of America speaking speaking of dictators doing

(02:07:32):
dumb ship with water little rocketman.

Speaker 4 (02:07:36):
Okay, So Elon like launched a rocket that blew up right,
eventually it's spun out of control.

Speaker 3 (02:07:42):
Uh, but not to be outdone, little rocketman is out
here like uh, sinking his own.

Speaker 2 (02:07:48):
Ships kind of what Elon does. Kind of.

Speaker 3 (02:07:52):
So North Korea, you know, thinks it's a country, and
they had built a ship that they were going to
use to huck missiles at South Korea. I guess, I
don't know what else they do. And so they went
to go like launch it and it just like tipped
over in the water and it started to sink.

Speaker 4 (02:08:13):
So they were like, oh shit, let's cover it up
with a blue tart before Ken John sees it, of.

Speaker 2 (02:08:17):
Course, not the satellite, but Kim Jong and then he
saw it.

Speaker 3 (02:08:21):
And he's like, oh man, I got to kill a
lot of people for that. Rather than fix the problem,
he's like, yeah, everybody's going to jail or getting killed
as a result. Kim blamed the mishap unquote absolute carelessness, irresponsibility,
and unscientific empiricism. I don't know, it's unscientific and empirical.
But okay, public prosecutors and naval experts have hauled in

(02:08:44):
the shipyard's manager and inspected the ship above and below
the water. Yeah, bro, dude, it probably wasn't gonna work anyway.
It's a North Korean ship. It has screen doors for portholes. No,
we can't tell those jokes about North Korea. We can

(02:09:05):
definitely do that. Uh, what are they gonna do?

Speaker 2 (02:09:09):
Shoot us?

Speaker 3 (02:09:10):
We've got a golden dough now, mm hmm. All right,
that's the end of the show.

Speaker 2 (02:09:16):
Boom right on time, right, this is the earlier one.

Speaker 3 (02:09:20):
Yeah. Uh, so we want to say, uh, thank you,
uh doctor Coppery and uh Coach Washington for yes about
mental art to art, you know, a little bit here
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