New special guest co-host Jimmy Kimmel!

Charlie is back to co-host and talk to us about the Emmys and the upcoming Oscars. Plus we examine the attacks on free speech from the Trump regime, do a little interest rates, and disect the attack on history and information so classical to fascist politics. And of course we do headlines, and a little rundown. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:41):
It is nine thirty on a Thursday night, and you
were tuned into Beltweit Radio and beyond, which can mean
one and only thing. This is Chipchat. Welcome to chip Chat, everybody.
I'm Chip Who are you, Charlie.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
I'm Charlie. You're Charlie.

Speaker 1 (00:58):
Charlie's here, Test is on assignment, and Charlie's cat is here,
Princess Carolyn. She says, Hi, Hi, does she talk?

Speaker 2 (01:09):
Not not yet. I've been trading her for four and
a half years. How's that working out for you? As
much as as much as Eddie, as well as any
cat trader will tell you, it's sure.

Speaker 1 (01:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
I had this. I had this picture of my phone
and it has a bunch of cats in like these
in this box that's broken into like starting gates, like
at a horse track, and they're all just sitting looking
up at the camera, and it says, this is why
cat racing is so fucking boring.

Speaker 1 (01:33):
Yeah, that's right. So Charlie is here not just a
co host, but he's also going to be here to
talk about the Emmys, which just happened last weekend. It's
the last Emmys that will ever happen, apparently, because then
there's not going to be television or movies or anything
anyone or a country. Yeah, well who you know who

(01:53):
needs that? Chipchats still on the air, soon to have
ANUE co host named Jimmy Kimmel. I guess.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
At least have a rotating people people that are getting fired.
You know, Colbert will come in one week, Kimbo will
come in another week.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Will come in the next week.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
You know, we'll just do the rest of the daily
show hosts.

Speaker 1 (02:13):
That's right. Yeah, as you get canned by the Trump Gestapo,
you can just come on Chipchat and and be on
our show. So yeah, we we're going to talk about
all of that stuff. Also, quick shout out a you
Sha Rosco NPR weekend edition Sunday host retweeted our video

(02:34):
where we were talking about how much we love the
way she does the puzzle puzzler intro and so that
was cool. That felt really great, And maybe she'll come
on the show and make her say and puzzle master
of yes, just the way she says it. I accept

(02:57):
nothing less for the rest of forever. She can ever
move on to anything else. I'm gonna need that clip
for forever, all right. Uh so, yeah, the murder of
Charlie Kirk, which is unfortunate that our Charlie shares a
first name with that guy is fast becoming the Franz
Ferdinand of our time. It's not good. Not the band,

(03:20):
the archduke that got murder.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
The actual archduke that was assassinated, and who's assassination triggered
World War One.

Speaker 1 (03:29):
Yes, that that's exactly right, thank you for which slaps. Yeah,
I mean the band is great, but but maybe they'll
come on the show. Okay, So yeah, we need to
be very super careful about like what we say, how
we say. We're gonna when we're talking about that, We're
not gonna make jokes. We're gonna stick to the facts

(03:49):
as far as we know them, sort of like how
Cash Patel sticks to the facts as much as he
has no idea what anything is.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yeah, Epstein didn't traffic any of those girls to anybody else. Sure,
Or also that John Kennedy is like, you are fucking
kidding me. He goes, you are kidding me.

Speaker 3 (04:13):
Right, you gotta do it in the voice he got
asked about the Butler Pennsylvania shooting in you know, with
the attempted assassinate Trump and the congressman was like, hey,
are you gonna tell us anything about the shooter there?

Speaker 1 (04:26):
And he goes yeah. After the trial, and the congressman.

Speaker 4 (04:31):
Like took him out.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
Yeah, I mean he had he had the fastest trial
in the history of the United States. Yep, yeah, one
fifty count of a face. So anyway, uh yeah, uh
so we're gonna be careful. We do have jokes since
we're the only comedy show left on the air, and
that's only because like, we wrote a bunch of Dad

(04:54):
jokes for test and then he's not here, So we're
gonna do them anyway. And we're gonna talk about economic
which is our favorite thing to talk about on this
show because we're fun and that's fun.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Because nothing gets to be hotter than talking like Paul Krugman.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
It's gonna say, how many how many economics professors do
you know off the top of your head?

Speaker 2 (05:22):
Krugman, I can't even remember my economics professor from Northern
Virginia Community.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Oh, I can't even remember that.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
So it's like, good luck on that.

Speaker 1 (05:30):
Yeah, Well, we can name economists like many people can
name football players. But in our case, part of that
is because my dad is one but also is because
when tes is here, we both wish secretly to be
on Marketplace. That that's our goal, is to grow up
to become kay Risdohlf and host Marketplace. And it hasn't

(05:52):
happened yet, but it could. It could.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
You just want to be on CNBC so badly?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
Do you have no idea how excite it is to
cover bond yield curves? That's that's some wild shit man.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Still anything better than Jim Kramer?

Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, we don't have all the sound effects, just the
one bell, but you know how like you study award
shows and like know the ins and outs of like
why people vote for what or like not just the
content that they're voting on, but like all of those intricacies.
That's the way we watch the FED. It's crazy. Speaking
of which, Lisa Cook's case is going to the Supreme Court,

(06:31):
I wonder what it is about her that Trump keeps
wanting to get rid of. I don't know, just can't
quite put my never mind anyway. So yeah, Plus and
Mike talks from soccer and some football because it's that
time of year we can't not talk about it. Tess
is a year for me to harangue him about football

(06:52):
or I'm sorry, soccer. He's he's the British one, right, yeah. Uh,
and but Charlie's here, so we can talk about football
and we'll see how that's all going. Speaking of I,
I don't follow it, but I like it. Well, yeah,
it's fun to watch even if you don't know. But
but you're a football nerd, so you know, we'll probably
get into a little bit of that. So we'll see.

(07:14):
And of course the Dolphins are getting pummeled by the
Bills at the moment, so depending on who picked what
in that game, we'll see how that goes. Yeah, and
it's gonna be fun. I promise this is gonna be
a wild show. Not like January sixth kind of wild,
but it's gonna be wild. We promise.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
There will be a lot. There will be a lot,
maybe the same amount of broken windows we'll see.

Speaker 1 (07:38):
There you go, and Brian kill Me will apologize for.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
All of it.

Speaker 2 (07:45):
He took German in high school, you know.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
Oh, I'm shocked.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
That was one of the great John Oliver spash clip
packages they put together of how often he said I
took German in high school.

Speaker 1 (07:56):
We're shocked. Jesus Christ could it be more, I would say,
on the nose, but since his eyes are so close together,
those are kind of on his nose too.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
You can't get the taste of the knob out of
his mouth. And I mean a literal door knob. He
doesn't know how to open a door, we know. Yeah, okay,
so do you have a word? Sure, Okay, I've got
a word. We'll see if this works, So sit.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
Back, grab some macarina. It's for a time. You're listening
to Chip Chat on Boatwait Radio and Beyond and also
on radio network whoa.

Speaker 6 (08:44):
Street Bulls.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
All right, welcome back to two John Yere on Bligh
Radio and Beyond. I'm real Chip with me tonight is Charlie. Hello,
Hello Charlie. So yeah, I did mention. We're live on
two radio stations at this very moment, so that's pretty exciting.

Speaker 2 (09:55):
Move it on up.

Speaker 1 (09:57):
Yeah, we're on the same network twice basically, but that's
that's cool, and we're happy to be back on DR Radio.
So we're on both and hello to everybody in central
Florida who might be watching from rip Raida Network or
listening from rip Raida Network, and we're very happy to

(10:18):
be there. Okay, so now it's time to do some headlines.
This is where we tell you the headlines that our
crack news team has gathered, and we can take turns.
I guess I'll do the setup and then Charlie's got
the the second part of this headline, and then we
can just switch off from there. We can update style

(10:41):
all right. In the wake of the Charlie Kirk shooting
pause for fear, okay, President Obama made a video statement
calling for unity and condemning political violence. Current President Trump
told reporters that Obama.

Speaker 2 (10:58):
Was a stupid and worthless president. But I'm fixing it.
Only I can fix it. Have you seen DC. There's
going to be a new ballroom. Nobody knows balls better
than I. I love balls, and I love the rooms.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
Thank you, you welcome, all right. Trump arrived in the UK,
where he walked in front of King Charles and parted
loudly on camera on an effort to honor the late
queen who also got the same.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
Treatment Another unfortunate, unfortunate person with the same first name
as name.

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Yes, right, Oh that's rough, all right, go ahead, take
the next one.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
All right, Trump talked to reporters before departing for England
and called on the British to be nice to him
or he would deport Oasis.

Speaker 1 (11:40):
Yes. During Chopper Talk, Trump claimed that three hundred million
Americans had died last year from drug overdoses, which would
explain why it feels like we're all dead and living
in hell.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Right now and makes me wonder where why can't I
get any Yeah.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Also, there's only three hundred and forty million Americans.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
I think he's counting a couple illegals in there, a few, Yeah, probably.
Trump declared Antifa to be a terrorist organization. The leader
of Antifa, the Tooth Fairy, responded that she would be
sending a unicorn to deliver a strong rebuke.

Speaker 1 (12:14):
Yes, the sheer stupidity of that whole thing is almost
impossible to interrogate, so we'll just leave that off to
the side for now. Speaking of anti fascists, the estate
of Dwight Eisenhower was very surprised to be called a terrorist.

Speaker 2 (12:34):
As we mentioned earlier, the Emmys were held this week,
and in what can only be described as a strong
rebuke of a certain of a certain sitting president, Stephen
Colbert won the category of Best Variety Talks Show. He
celebrated by reminding everybody that Trump has no Emmys and
that they could have prevented all of this.

Speaker 1 (12:54):
That's right. Yep. Authorities have confirmed a pilot found dead
after flying a plane that craw carrying two hundred kilograms
of SpaceX branded cocaine is Australian. That's not the whole joke,
that's just the setup.

Speaker 7 (13:10):
Police in Brazil, Oh, it was in Brazil, discovered the
wreckage of the light plane in a sugarcane field on
the coast of the Aligoas region and confirmed the body
of the dead pilot found nearby.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
Is that a forty six year old Timothy J. Clark.
The Australian ambassador told Brazilian cops quote, of course he crashed,
he was falling the plane ALLSI stall what you call
a saw down.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
And of course he spun counterclockwise right.

Speaker 4 (13:40):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Yes.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
South Korean officials are finally commenting on the arrest and
deportation of hundreds of Korean nationals who were removed from Georgia. Oh,
they said, oh, thank god. We have been trying to
get them out of that hell hole for months.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
That's right. Jadie Vance took a spin hosting Charlie Kirk's
podcast In His Absence and The Easy Chair Will Never Recover.

Speaker 2 (14:03):
And had many people saying, I prefer the dead guy. Oh,
I mean had the talent to do the podcasting. JD
does not.

Speaker 1 (14:13):
Which one is the dead guy?

Speaker 2 (14:17):
I'm not touching that one. Yeah, I know, I'm not
going there.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Vance just sounds like a throw pillow that's lost. Never mind,
it does sound.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
Like a chain of funeral homes, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
He does, Yeah, and he looks like someone that would
work in there.

Speaker 2 (14:32):
Soap maker Unilever hit a snag as Jerry of Ben
and Jerry's resigned over what he called attempts to silence him. Unilever,
for their part, said he wasn't being silenced, just choking
a little on some cherry Garcia or fish food.

Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah right, well that was apparently what they found. ABC
is preempting Jimmy Kimmel for the foreseeable future, or at
least until their local stations get their murders through FCC approval.

Speaker 2 (14:59):
That's not a joke, that's a statement of fact.

Speaker 1 (15:01):
That's true.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
Darrow and Kimmel off the air has opened up space
for more people to watch other funny comedy shows. Apparently
the right wing takes jokes about as well as they
take bullets. Yes, you left that one for me. You
didn't mean to you, bastard.

Speaker 1 (15:16):
Hey, you could have read ahead.

Speaker 2 (15:18):
It's true.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
And in sports news, John Daly hit in nineteen on
the twelfth hole at the Sandford Open, and just like
Matt Gates, that nineteen cent at all time high buzzing.
And those are the headlines. What do you think of
those headlines.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Charlie, Oh, hilarious, hilarious.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Yeah, we gonna win an Emmy.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
It's in the mail.

Speaker 1 (15:42):
Yeah, right, good job. All right, we're gonna take a
break and we'll be back with the rundown and the
next bit of the show. You're listening to Chipchat on
Beltway Radio and yond sweeps.

Speaker 8 (15:58):
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I want to talk about it, but I be laid forwards.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
And if you say, you wait a minute, who we
have stop this?

Speaker 9 (16:11):
We have one, but you did it was a lady
in office, hostile cover.

Speaker 10 (16:22):
Trevy go Uber hostile of him.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
For now.

Speaker 1 (16:31):
Then we're a part of a Nigerian prince down surprise, surprise,
it end up being a white man all.

Speaker 6 (16:39):
I just want to know what the hell.

Speaker 1 (16:42):
Do I do? I drink? And if you say you
hate a.

Speaker 5 (16:47):
Minute, who we have stop this?

Speaker 1 (16:50):
We have one, but you did it wasn't.

Speaker 9 (16:56):
Hostile cover cha hostile, hostile.

Speaker 10 (17:16):
Cha hostile, hostile.

Speaker 1 (17:28):
Of honey, this eat out left the right, give up us,
I'm messing around, honey, this.

Speaker 10 (17:37):
Eat out left the right.

Speaker 11 (17:38):
You don't worry about nothing down this deatbell left the right,
give up us.

Speaker 10 (17:42):
I'm messing around this deatb out left the right.

Speaker 1 (17:46):
You don't worry about nothing down.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
If you see you wait a minute, two, we have
to stop this.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
We hadn't budget, didn't want to.

Speaker 10 (17:54):
Lady and office hostile of money.

Speaker 1 (18:38):
All right, Welcome back to Chip Chat here on Beltweigh
Radio and beyond. I am heroes. Chip with me is Charlie.
That was the theme song to Our Lives Now, and uh,
you know, it's just kind of on in my head
all the time. Also, like for some reason, the Night
at the Roxbury guys, I feel like that's yeah, I

(19:00):
feel like that should be the thing for that song,
Like we should we should redo that movie but put
that as the song.

Speaker 2 (19:07):
I don't think Chris Catan's doing anything so I think
we could definitely pull that off.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, he called me last week. I was like, no,
leave me alone.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
The good friend of mine was actually just in a
filmed thing with Will Ferrell for an upcoming Netflix show.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Well there you go. Yeah, he called me and he
was like, hey, you know, can we do something? And
I was like, no, such as mango.

Speaker 2 (19:27):
But then he got back to what he really was
calling you about, which was asking about your car's extended warranty.

Speaker 1 (19:32):
That's right, And I also told him no, no. So
now we've come to the party show. It's called the Rundown.
This is where I tell you about some stuff that's
turn out of the news. If we were professionals, it
would sound a little something like.

Speaker 8 (19:46):
This from Beltway Radio and Beyond in Washington, d C.
I'm Emmy nominated TV news man and just bona fide
sexual beast Jase gott Smith. And this is the part
of the show where I tell some stuff about the world.
Maybe not me, but somebody else is going to tell
some stuff about what's happening in the news. So what's

(20:08):
going on in the news, fellas.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
Thanks Jake. All right, So we had to talk about
several big things let's start with the Jimmy Kimmel thing,
which you know, and let's just preface this by saying,
like this isn't specifically really about Jimmy Kimmel himself, and
that's all a little bit baffling that he's the one

(20:31):
that this has to be about. But that's where we're
gonna start with for the like frame of reference. So,
Jimmy Kimmel is the co host of Win ben Stein's Money.
His job is to read the questions to ben Stein
and then make girls jump on trampoline.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
So I have that right, Yep, that's pretty much it.

Speaker 1 (20:52):
Okay, So in the commission of the girls jumping on trampolines,
sometimes he tells jokes. And what he did was he
went on his current show, which is on ABC or
was on ABC, which he's been hosting now for twenty
two years in a row.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Is that right. Yeah, it's been, Yeah, it's been. It's
been over twenty years.

Speaker 1 (21:12):
And I remember when the Kimmel Show was like the
new upstart late night show, right.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Yeah, because ABC didn't have a dog in the late
night fight. So that was a big thing for them
to actually say we're gonna actually they only had Nightline,
which was there evening, which was their late night news magazine,
and so that was a big thing for them when
they actually, you know, put decided they were going to
get in the game with Kimmel and it you.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Know, the show went through a lot of progression, but
it certainly morphed into a really great show. And you know,
Jimmy has done a really good job of bringing along
a lot of people with him on this show, including
his co host Giermo, who ye was actually the parking
lot guy at the studio and Jimmy just liked him.

(22:00):
He was funny, and he just put him on and
he's been there ever since. But like his cousins that
are on the show being his cousin, those are his
actual cousins. And he's just having a good time with
all of this. The the stuff about him and Matt
Damon and all, like, all of these things kind of

(22:20):
built up over time and became very successful inside the show,
gags and jokes and things like that, and it's a
really good show.

Speaker 2 (22:30):
Like I've been to that I've actually seen the show
live and it was and it's and it's a great experience.
It was a wonderful experience yeah.

Speaker 1 (22:37):
And I can say as somebody who watches a fair
amount of this late night stuff that like, mechanically speaking,
the Jimmy Kimmel Show works really really well across a
lot of audiences. Of course, there's very memorable bits like
the stealing the the candy, the Halloween candy, or the
asking people on the street very obvious questions that they

(22:58):
don't know the answers to, or the current game that
I really love to watch that they do which of
these people is high? And that yes, always, it's always
a very good time. So like, who's got a problem
with Jimmy Kimmel, Well, one guy's got a problem with
Jimmy Kimmel, and it's the guy who Jimmy Kimmel has
the most nicknames for, and that's the current president. The

(23:22):
orange globs got Globulus himself. Jesus, I can't even talk.
And what happened was Jimmy Kimmel went on TV and
he said something that is, in my opinion, and I
think in the opinion of many people stupid, but not particularly.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Like me.

Speaker 6 (23:47):
Do you want to see it?

Speaker 12 (23:48):
Because I saw recently and it's not that bad. No,
click over and over, Well, I want to say for
the audience, let's put it that way.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
But the audience, yes, the audience should get to hear
the thing that he said. All right, it isn't really
particularly controversial, but let's hear it.

Speaker 6 (24:04):
If you've got to stand by. I love this drama
we create for the show.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
Oh yes, tune in for drama.

Speaker 6 (24:13):
Yes, here you go, ladies and gentlemen, enjoy.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
We hit some new lows over.

Speaker 13 (24:18):
The weekend with the Magga Gang desperately trying to characterize
this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than
one of them, and everything they can to score political
points from it. In between the finger pointing here was grieving.
On Friday, the White House flew the flags at half staff,
which got some criticism, but on a human level, you
can see how hard the President is taking this condulgas down.

Speaker 2 (24:42):
The hating your friend, Charlie Kirk asked sir personally, how
are you holding up for the last day and a half, Sir,
I think very good. And by the way, right there,
you see all the trucks.

Speaker 11 (24:52):
They just started construction of the new ball room for
the White House, which is.

Speaker 2 (24:56):
Something they've been trying to get as you know for about.

Speaker 4 (24:58):
One hundred and fifty years.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
All right, So the question I have is like, which
of the things is the problem? Now there's there's two
things kind of that comes to mind. One is the
assertion that Jimmy made that isn't true. Is you know,
trying to tie the shooter to the Maga people. That's

(25:19):
not true. And I don't think anybody actually thought that
was true. I think that was part of the joke.
But I will say, being that I hang out in
like Blue Sky World or you know, left wing social media,
there was a pretty persistent meme going around or set

(25:42):
of memes that that the shooter in Utah was a
MAGA guy and that this was part of their like
accelerationist ideas, or or that Nick Fuentes had put him
up to it because Charlie Kirk was not sufficiently racist
or some.

Speaker 2 (25:59):
All they doing everything they could to pin it on
the other side.

Speaker 1 (26:02):
Yeah, and I don't think anybody thought that was real.
I think that that was all like the Russian bots
were the ones flinging those memes around. But whatever, So
he said that that might be the thing or is
the thing of playing the clip where Trump doesn't seem
to care very much about the death of his so
called friend Charlie Kirk and skips right on too talking

(26:25):
about his balls. I'm sorry ball root it. I don't know,
like which of the I don't know, Charlie, you're the
TV expert. Which of these two things is the thing
that that was the major offense? Neither.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
But they were just looking for something. The other side
was just looking for something. I mean, these are the
the one of the guys from Barstool Sports. Yes, you
saw that clip. He said that these people are the
biggest bunch of pussy's he's ever seen.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
And then Rudy got in a Twitter fight with him,
of all people here.

Speaker 2 (26:53):
Oh, did you take time out of helping domestic violence
victims to Uh.

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Yeah, Rudy took time out of drinking his life away
to pick a Twitter fight with Barstool Nate. Okay, guy,
remember when you were like the mayor of New York
and you're losing Twitter fights to sports idiots.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
I mean, at least I guess he's okay enough to
be to be getting in Twitter fights again.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
Good for him, you know, I mean, it's more seasons,
he'll be even better.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
I mean, it's like, did you did you he He
didn't say anything objectionable, he didn't call anybody names. He
did he made fun of Donald Trump for something that
was legitimately baffling, and like, I actually was like, I
wonder what, I wonder what Kimmel said. I actually was
thinking to myself, I wonder what Kimmel said when the
night at the on his first show after Kirk was assassinated,

(27:54):
And I actually pulled it up and I found what
he said, and and to me, it's the same, it's
it's there's again nothing objectually he said. Like the rest
of the country, we're trying to wrap our heads around
the senseless murder of the popular podcaster and concerntive activist
Charlie Kirk yesterday, whose death was amplified by our anger
and our has amplified our anger and our differences. I've
seen a lot of extraordinarily vile responses to this from

(28:15):
both sides of the political spectrum. Some people are cheering this,
which is something I won't ever understand.

Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, that seemed pretty like human. I don't know what else.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
Yeah, the only thing he was doing was making fun
of the president for bizarre when he's at being when
asked about the legitimately the death of the brutal death
of his friend, of someone who he called his friend.
He goes off and starts talking about and I mean,
and this is what Trump always does. Remember he's talking
on nine to eleven. He's talking about how his building
is now the tallest one in downtown Manhattan.

Speaker 1 (28:48):
Right, he can't ever express a human emotion.

Speaker 2 (28:54):
Remember when I can't remember which shooting it was. I
think it was Uvalde. Was the Texas one?

Speaker 14 (29:00):
Yeah, that's that's true, but also a lot Was it
the school one or the El Paso walmart where he
went down and was visiting with the emergency room workers.

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Who had uh who had worked on who were working
the shift when all the victims were coming in, and
he was talking about his rate, about his ratings and
how about how people like him.

Speaker 10 (29:24):
It was.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
It was bizarre.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
I don't know which shooting that was. Let's just pause
by saying that the sentence that you just started that with,
I don't know which shooting it was, but that that's
the problem is an exceptionally American sentence. But yeah, I
mean it. Look, you're you're you got two points here,

(29:46):
both of which are absolutely correct. One is that Kimmel
was pointing out this problem that Trump has with expressing
concern for anybody other than himself in any circumstance. Ever,
he just can't ever put somebody else's can like needs

(30:07):
above his own. And that's weird, but not like I
have children. I know that they do that they're but
then they turned four and they stop doing it like that.
That's it's just very very strange. And then the other
thing that, yeah, this wasn't really about anything that Kimmel said.

(30:28):
He could have come out there and talked about how
puppies are cute and they would have just lost their
shit over this too. The fact on the ground is
this the FCC is weaponized. They're The commissioner of the
FCC is a guy named Brendan Carr. He has been
very openly hostile to things he doesn't like. He's been

(30:48):
clear that he wants to use his authority to punish
people that he doesn't like, punishing U.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Architects behind Project twenty twenty five.

Speaker 1 (30:56):
He is, and he wants to use the FCC to
punish broadcast masters that differ from his and Trump's position
on anything. And he also seems to be exceptionally ignorant
on what the FCC has jurisdiction over and what they
don't and or how any of this stuff is arranged.
And that gets to this important thing to understand. People

(31:19):
don't know this, but the FCC their job is to
manage the public airwaves. Basically, the idea goes and this
is just in terms of broadcasts. It's not about telecommer
any that. That's a whole other thing. The basic idea
doesn't either, right, That's where I'm getting with this. The
FCC's job is to manage the public airwaves. The airwaves

(31:42):
where the radio and TV broadcasts that go over the air,
that are broadcast over the air, that you pick up
with an antenna, Basically that's everybody's and if you don't
have somebody regulating it, then basically it's just an arm
series who's got the biggest transmitter to take over a
particular frequency broadcasts whatever they want. So the United States

(32:02):
and many other countries have somebody who regulates that, and
the FCC has jurisdiction over only that. It doesn't have
jurisdiction over cable. It doesn't have jurisdiction over Internet content
or anything else like that. It's only over the public airwaves,
and their jurisdiction over it in terms of what can

(32:23):
be presented is pretty broad. It's not really super well defined,
but it says that they have to protect the public interest,
and that can be interpreted to mean a lot of things,
and over the years it's been interpreted to mean that
you have to have a certain amount of educational programming
to have an FCC broadcast license, which is why you
see those bizarre info shows that happened at weird times

(32:47):
on Sundays when nobody's watching, so that they can meet
their quotas, or why stations will occasionally carry news in
the middle of programs that it doesn't make any sense
that they should have news. It also requires them to
do things like have the emergency broadcast tone play every
so often and perform those tests and other things. But
what the FCC doesn't have any jurisdiction over is the

(33:10):
large networks because they don't broadcast anything. The stations. The
local stations they have FCC licenses, and if you have
a HAM radio license, you have an FCC license, you
get a card from the FCC. It says you'll behave
yourself on the on the airways. The stations themselves are

(33:30):
regulated by the FCC. ABC is not regulated by the FCC, NBC, CBS,
none of them are regulated by the FCC. The stations
that carry their content are. And over the years there
have been a lot of mergers and acquisitions amongst those
stations and changes in rules that have allowed companies to

(33:52):
own more and more individual stations. And now we've got
down to the point that cost Kimmel his job, which
is that some of those station owners want to merge
with other station owners and own even more stations, which
would require the FCC's approval and also require them to
change some of the rules. And since the Trump people

(34:13):
control the FCC, if you are carrying a program that
makes fun of Trump for having tiny hands or being
an incoherent, inhumane monster, they're probably not going to allow
that merger to go through. And so this is just
a way that they're using what is supposed to be
in a political basically keep the airwaves running. Sort of

(34:36):
technocratic agency, independent agency, I would add, that's not supposed
to be in control by the executive branch. They're using
that as a way to suppress media viewpoints that they
don't like and That's the thing that's alarming. It's not
about Jimmy, It's about what can happen when a weatherman
says that a hurricane is going to hit this part

(34:59):
of the Golf coast and Trump drew with a sharpie
that he wanted it to hit a different part of
the Gulf coast. Could that station have their license? Yemed,
what are we talking about when we talk about this
level of media.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Suppression and pettiness.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
It's well, sure, it's all petty, but you know, there
are countries where this is the case, right. You see
this in whether it's Hungary, whether it's Turkey, whether it's
Venezuela or North Korea. You know, yeah, you have state
television and state radio and state newspaper and in some

(35:35):
cases more extreme than others, but basically, opposing viewpoints aren't
heard from. And conservatives believe that that's been their lot
to carry for the longest time. They believe that they
haven't had their viewpoints aired over the public airways for
a long time, that there's been some sort of media
buyas against them by all objective measures. That's just not true,

(35:58):
but they believe, they believe that they've been aggrieved and
they are now willing to go so far as to
violate the First Amendment like less and.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Right, so they're not even hiding it, saying we can
either do this the easy way or the hard way.

Speaker 1 (36:17):
That is what Brendan Carr said. Yes, and you know,
it's great when your government starts speaking like a mob boss.
It gives you a lot of confidence. I don't know
exactly where this ends, you know, well, I do know
where it ends, and it's me on a train in someplace.
But I know that that I know where it could

(36:42):
go for at least a period of time, which is
that the mainstream media, as careful as it already is,
and like Test likes to point out, these things get
layered to absolute death before they're broadcast or printed, becomes
even more careful and just capitulate and doesn't tell people anything,
in which case, shows like this become even more critically

(37:04):
important because we might be the only source of legitimate information.
And I don't want anybody to mistake this for the news.
We are not the news, but we might be the
only opposing viewpoint, and only because we're small enough that
people don't give a shit what we say. But eventually
we might get you know, if that happens and we
become the source, then we got the target on our back.
And much as I love the publicity, I don't know

(37:27):
that everybody else involved in the show, whether it's Charlie
as the uh tangential fifth beetle or Brian as the
producer or Ted's for that matter, wants that kind of smoke.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
But I mean I want it, but that's you know, Yeah,
I don't know if gofund me has enough to cover
those legal bills.

Speaker 1 (37:47):
Yeah, well who knows who's that there's gonna be legal bills. So,
but speaking, let's go a little further down before we
start talking about the FED stuff. Where this goes with
the free speech aspect of all of this. We had
a situation right after Kirk was shot where a Texas
Tech student was arrested for talking. I'm not even totally

(38:17):
sure what this person was doing or even who they are. Cameron,
Giselle Booker, and oh, Brian's got a video over. Cool. Okay,

(38:37):
so the young lady is celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk,
which is protected speech. Maybe a little uncouth.

Speaker 2 (38:54):
In bad taste, possibly in bad taste, but that's a
matter of taste.

Speaker 1 (38:58):
Sure, And I think it's fair to say from looking
at this video she's a young black woman, she probably
could make a fair argument that a lot of what
Charlie Kirk said, which was also protected speech, was directly
about removing her existence from the planet. Let's say. So,

(39:18):
you know, I don't know how I mean. So she
was arrested and then Greg Abbott took a stand on
this one and said like, aha, you've been arrested. And
then you know she was let out the next day

(39:40):
on two hundred dollars bond. And there's no I think
she was charged with simple assault. I don't know where
the assault took place here.

Speaker 6 (39:48):
Yeah, well I seen when I saw the video.

Speaker 12 (39:51):
So initially, you know, as she was like doing her
walk around and pretty much trying to let the people
know what was really going on with her, you know,
with Charlie Kirk and stuff like that, she initially did
a slight graze on the guy who was holding the sign.

Speaker 6 (40:07):
So, and the guy ends up saying, oh, see you
hit me.

Speaker 5 (40:10):
What you hit me for?

Speaker 1 (40:11):
So?

Speaker 6 (40:12):
And she was kind of saying, I don't really hit you.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 1 (40:15):
So Sandwich to throw.

Speaker 12 (40:20):
Resistance yes, so I kind of agree where I mean,
she wasn't really dancing or celebrating his death. It was
more the sense of trying to uh disengage the guy
who was trying to to support Kirk and more. The
fact is like, look, you know, explain to the fact
of what this guy was all about. And I kind

(40:41):
of got the sense where she was trying to be about.
But you know, if you you know her being suspended
or you know, expelled from Texas Tech, I believe due
to the fact of the you know, the ledge violence,
then I can understand why Texas Tech you know, expelled her.
But but for some like this, you know again, yeah,

(41:02):
I understand he's has his you know, first amendmum rights,
but she has also hers. But once you put hands
on somebody, even if it was just a graze, you know,
I think that's where it goes overboard.

Speaker 1 (41:13):
But so, you know, during during the time that the
right wing was decrying cancer, cancel culture, we often would
make the point that, look, people have a First Amendment
right to say whatever they want. Companies, employers also have
a First Amendment right about who they want representing them

(41:34):
or how they want to be represented. So long as
it's not discriminatory in the way that they do it.
So like if you know, if I'm out here saying
Pepsi tastes nasty, and Pepsi doesn't want to sponsor this show,
like that's their choice, that's my choice. That's okay if
the school doesn't want her enrolled as a student as

(41:54):
long as and I think that's a problem because it's
a public institution. So there we do get into a
First Amendment issue. But if it's a private institution, if
it's your employer, you know, if you work for you know,
Ted's ice cream shop, and Ted doesn't like that thing happening,
it's you know, he's got a First Amendment right not

(42:15):
to let you work there, just as much as you've
got a right to say the thing. But you know
who doesn't have a legal right to punish you for speaking.
That's the government and specifically in this case, Pam Bondi,
who I do want to remind people did pass the
bar in some state I'm just not sure, which is

(42:36):
nominally a lawyer. In the wake of the assassination of
Charlie Kirk Bondi, ag Attorney General Pam Bondi said that
she was going to punish hate speech quote unquote hate speech.
She said, there's free speech and then there's hate speech.
And she was on the Katie Miller podcast. Oh my god,

(42:58):
that sounds horrific.

Speaker 2 (43:01):
The idea that he's married.

Speaker 1 (43:03):
Yeah, shocking. So she she said this thing, and then
she went on to detail how like if you say
things that we don't like, we're going to target you
and arrest you and throw you in jail and whatnot.
Even the right wing, like even Tuckham's was pissed off
about this.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Like, yeah, because doesn't even doing to game black people
for decades.

Speaker 1 (43:22):
Right, So, and they didn't want to be lumped in. No,
I'm kidding. Uh. The big the big thing is that
like Tuckham's wants to say horrible shit, right, and Eric
Erickson wants to be able to say horrible shit, and
all of these other guys want to be able to
say horrible shit. What they don't want is the government
stopping them from being able to say the horrible shit.

(43:44):
So if Tucker wants to go on TV and talk
about the Great Replacement or whatever, the government can't touch
him for that. If his sponsors don't want to mess
with him, that's a different problem, but the government can't
throw him in jail for doing it. What BONDI suggested
is real Soviet kind of stuff. Yeah, like thought police

(44:09):
kind of stuff totally, And I don't, I don't. She
kind of walked it back, right, she was like, Okay, well,
we're I was really talking about incitement of violence. Well
it's not what you said. And you'd think a lawyer
and especially the Attorney general would be a little more
careful in how they present themselves. But of course this
is a you know, a Trump ag, not a real
serious person. She isn't really a good lawyer, you know,

(44:32):
she's just these she just has this title. I don't
know what to call that. How do you even explain that?

Speaker 2 (44:40):
No clue at this point. Yeah, I've given up.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Yeah. One of the things I've learned over the years
is to stop trying to like catch them in their
rhetorical nonsense, because like they'll say one thing and then
they'll say the obbsolute opposite of it, and you'll be like,
didn't you just say it, And they'll be like, well,
they don't mean any of it. It's all wise. What
they the things they do mean is they do all
like gay people, they don't like black people, they don't
like women, those things they mean and everything else is

(45:07):
just an excuse to get to say all that stuff,
which hits us to I guess our last like news
story within the rundown, which is that the FED cut
the interest rate by a quarter point. Here's where we're
going to talk about economics, which is of course the
most interesting of all of the things.

Speaker 10 (45:27):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (45:29):
You know, the Fed basically had telegraphed this for months.
This wasn't It didn't move the markets at all. Everybody
knew that this was coming, and it was It was
not a surprise. It also wasn't a surprise in the
weight it was delivered. There was no like sometimes when
you know there's a rate cut coming, you're paying attention
to the phrasing or the style of the delivery of

(45:53):
the press conference or there was nothing interesting in this
at all. It was all completely expected. But the problem
that the Fed is facing, and that Jay Powell alluded to,
is the job market is softening. It turns out it's
been less robust than we thought over the last six

(46:15):
to eight months, and at the same time, there's inflationary
pressure and the rest of the tariff stuff still hasn't
really like sifted through the economy. So he's got a
hard choice to make. Is he gonna do the thing
that could potentially raise prices but maybe grow some more jobs,

(46:36):
or is he gonna do the thing that keeps the
jobs low but potentially brings the prices down. And he
chose on favor of jobs, as he had telegraphed, as
everybody understood. And you know, for all the things that
Trump does that he thinks he knows better going after

(46:58):
Jay Powell is is up there with like thinking he
can end the Ukraine War in a day. It's just, yeah,
it's just unbelievably stupid what Pale has figured out how
to do with the soft landing to get us out
of an inflation problem that was the direct result of

(47:23):
Trump's fucked up, botched efforts in the pandemic UH to
get us back to growth, to get us back to
the envy of the world, to get us to stable growth,
and to basically totally land the airplane and then get
us back up in the air to ruin all that,
to create a stagflation. Out of your own fury over

(47:48):
the penguins of McDonald Island is baffling. It's it's baffling
until you remember that their whole goal is to crash
the economy so they can buy it up for pennies
on the dollar and turn us all into slaves. But
you know that's for another show. So there you go.

(48:09):
There's our economics portion, and there's our free speech portion.
That's that's the rundown.

Speaker 4 (48:20):
Yay.

Speaker 1 (48:21):
Remember how this is a comedy show. All right. Yeah,
here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna take a break.
We have a special song set up for this break.
And what we are gonna do when we come back
from the break is Charlie is gonna tell us about
the Emmys, which should hopefully bring a little joy to
our lives, because that's what Charlie's here for.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
So you are about to see the thing that brought
me the most joy on Emmy Night.

Speaker 1 (48:45):
Oh my goodness. Okay, I can't wait to see this,
all right, Yeah, so we'll be right back. You're listening
to Chipchat on Beltwegh Radio and beyond. Here are the

(49:12):
nominees for Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series.

Speaker 15 (49:16):
Mike Barenholtz, The Studio, Bowman Domingo, The Four Seasons, Harrison
Ford Shrinking, Jeff Hiller, Somebody Somewhere, Evan Moss Backgrack the Bear,
Michael Shrinking, Bowen Yang, Saturday Night Live.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Okay, and the Emmy goes to Jeff Hiller Somebody Gowhere.

Speaker 15 (49:48):
This is the first Emmy Win Hands nomination for Jeff Hiller.

Speaker 16 (50:07):
I feel like I'm gonna cry because for the past
twenty five years I've been like world.

Speaker 1 (50:13):
I want to be an actor in the world. It's
like maybe computers, and.

Speaker 16 (50:19):
I just want to say, you know, Thank you to
HBO for putting a show about sweaty middle aged people
on the same network as the sexy teens of Euphoria.
Thank you to the Dupas brothers and Carolyn Strauss and
Hannah Baz and Paul Thereine who wrote a show about
connecting and love in this time when compassion is seen

(50:43):
is a weakness. And thank you to my sweet husband
and my family.

Speaker 1 (50:47):
For never laughing at me.

Speaker 6 (50:49):
And most of all, thank you, Brittet Everett.

Speaker 5 (50:52):
You changed my life and you told so many people
to believe in.

Speaker 6 (50:58):
Themselves and they do. Thank you.

Speaker 2 (51:00):
You. The quickest way to clear out stuck Boopy, clear
out stuck Yo, not expecting that last part.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Charlie, I love I love it when you come on
the show.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Especially the ship that happens just by accident.

Speaker 1 (51:23):
Oh, the ship that happens. Yeah, oh my god. That
was fantastic.

Speaker 2 (51:30):
That was a wonderful moment.

Speaker 1 (51:32):
Also the speech was good. So uh, all right, So
tell us about the Emmies.

Speaker 2 (51:38):
So Emmy's were Sunday night. The big winner was The Studio.
The Apple TV plus Seth Rogan comedy about a about
about a reluctant head of a new of a Hollywood studio,
took home the most ever won by a comedy series,
combined with its wins at the Creative Arts Awards the

(51:59):
previous week, thirteen Emmys, including Comedy Series, Lead Actor for
Seth Brogan, Writing, Directing, Guest Actor for Brian Cranston. It
is his seventh career Emmy, but his first for comedy.
That is the first time he's won for him.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
He never got anything from Malcolm in the Middle.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
He was nominated three times for Malcolm mill never won.
Oh yeah, so yeah, the Studio is the big winner.
It won almost every comedy award. Hacks, which was last
year's Comedy Series winner, won two, including Lead Actress for
Gene Smart that she's basically doing what Julia Louis Dreyfus
did with VEEP and winning almost and winning pretty much

(52:37):
every year. And the great Hannah Einbinder, who you may
not know is actually the daughter of Lorraine Newman, original
SNL cast.

Speaker 1 (52:44):
Yeah, I did know that.

Speaker 2 (52:46):
She had one of the best moments also when at
the end of her speech she said, go birds, fuck
Ice and free Palestine. Yep, and you know, and of
course the most objectionable part of that go birds.

Speaker 1 (53:00):
Of course, Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 2 (53:03):
And you just saw. The Supporting Actor Award went to
the great Jeff Hiller for the wonderful show Somebody Somewhere,
a little show on HBO. It only had three seasons.
This was for the final season, and the show has
such a beautiful heart to it. It's about Bridget Everett
is the who's the co creator and the star of
the show. It's about her moving back to her moving

(53:25):
back from New York to her small town in her
small hometown in Kansas around around the time of the
death of her sister and her finding a community there.
And it's a very beautiful, wonderful show. And I love
Jeff Hiller. I got to talk to him earlier this year.
He was reallysting. He even recorded a greeting for my
mom's because she's the one who introduced me to the show.

(53:47):
And I asked if he would do that, and he said,
oh god, yes, I'll do that. And my favorite thing
about that that clip also is if you look, first
of all, the supporting actor in a comedy category was
majority queer.

Speaker 1 (53:57):
Yeh.

Speaker 2 (53:58):
The seven dominees were ore openly game men because you
had Colman Domingo, Michael Yuri, and Bowen Yang. Yeah, all
of them are New York gays. So if you actually
look at their reaction, they cut to Michael Yury and
Bowen Yang and they're just like over the moon. Because
he's also a new UH based in New York and
he's been a teacher actually at UCB for over a decade.

(54:18):
So that's how he's UH held.

Speaker 1 (54:20):
To explain to people what New York gay as opposed
to other flavors of gay.

Speaker 2 (54:25):
It's just a regional thing. It's just a regional thing.
They know each other, We know each other, and especially
like because like because he's with you know, upright Citizens Brigade.
You know, someone like Bowen Yang definitely, who also came
from Upright Citizens Brigade, I believe, definitely. You know they
run in the same circles.

Speaker 1 (54:41):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (54:41):
Elsewhere on the drama side, it was all about the Pit,
the HBO Max drama series about a about an emergency
room in Pittsburgh, which is a fantastic show. It is
one of the Even my mom loves the show. My
mom's a nurse and she does not usually do medical dramas,
but this one she really enjoyed, and it's it's a

(55:03):
great show, if one drama series. Noah Wiley, who had
been nominated several times for Er, won his first career
Emmy for Lead Actor and a Drama. By the way,
his suit, his tucks was made by a company. It
was made by a fashion company that makes scrubs. They
made they made a tux touge.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
Oh that's cool. I was gonna say, is this guy, like,
did he have a medical background before he got into acting,
because it seems like the only thing he does.

Speaker 2 (55:28):
It's like the only thing he does any And he
got arrested in the Capital a couple of months ago
advocating for advocating against the cuts to Medicaid.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Right, Yeah, he's definitely maybe maybe his parents or doctors
or something like, he's.

Speaker 2 (55:40):
Jewish, so I mean that might just incorporate him in there.
Sure Ell. You also had the show taking the Supporting
Actress Prize for Great the Great Captain of the NASA.
Severance also was a big winner. It won six at
the Creative Arts Awards last week and won two at
the Primetime Emmys for Britt Lauer for Lead Actress in
a Drama Series. She wonderfully had on her acceptance speech

(56:03):
the words let me out on the back. So that
was a nice little easter egg for for for the audience.
And Tremel Tillman became the first black man to ever
win the Supporting Actor in a Drama Series category. Also
Native yep and and his mother was his date that night,

(56:24):
and he had and he had a referenced to her
as his first acting teacher. Was a very very sweet moment.
But then we got some really interesting winners in the
Writing and Directing awards. The Directing Award went to Slow Horses,
which won the Writing Award last year for its creator
Will Smith, which came out of nowhere. And then and
and Orr won the Writing Award, which I'm gonna have

(56:46):
to watch now because I've heard it's just two seasons,
and you really don't have to be steeped in Star
Wars law in order to in order to get the show,
so I may have to. I'm gonna have to give
that show a shot.

Speaker 1 (56:54):
So I'm a deep Star Wars person, of course, and
I loved and Or season one. I have not seen
season two yet because I had to finish up Alcolyte,
which I just finished, so I'm a little behind, but
I'm trying to, you know, kind of get to the
series in the order that they're presented, so that I'm
on pace. I'm very excited to get to and Or too,

(57:17):
And I'm very excited because it it really, without giving
anything away, it's very critical to the actual like canonical saga,
so it feels tangential until it doesn't. And I would
highly encourage even if you, like you said, if you're
not a Star Wars person, if you are wondering about

(57:38):
where there's like, hey, there's a few gaps in these movies.
These series have been working to fill those in. And
and Or does an exceptionally good job and it is
beautifully made. I mean, just the visuals of and Or
are really stark where it needs to be and they
are gorgeous where they but it's very real, it feels
very real. So yeah, I'm very excited happy to hear

(58:01):
that for them.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Yeah, that was that was a great thing for them.
And on the limited series movie side, it was all
about Netflix's Adolescents, winning Limited Series Lead Actor for Steven Graham,
Supporting Actor for Owen Cooper, who became the youngest male
acting winner ever. He's fifteen years old, and he delivers
a knockout performance in that. Aaron Doherty won Supporting Actress,

(58:25):
and it also won writing and directing. And it's just
four episodes, but every episode is essentially done in one take. Wow,
and it's it's it's it's a pretty intense show. It's
i mean, it's dark. It goes into some very you know,
you know, touchy subjects, you know, the idea of masculinity
and the manisphere. But it is a very but it's

(58:49):
a very good show and it really just worked with
heavy voters.

Speaker 1 (58:52):
Is that the one about the social worker or something
like that?

Speaker 2 (58:55):
There is an episode with the social worker? Yes, yeah,
because it's all about basically there's this this thirteen year
old kid who's being arrested accused of the murder of
one of his classmates.

Speaker 1 (59:05):
Yeah. I heard his story on NPR about it, and
the thing that stuck with me was the bit about
the social workers.

Speaker 2 (59:10):
And that's Aaron Doherty who when supporting actress, she's acial
social worker and Stephen Graham Lead Actor winner plays his father.
And really, even though Stephen Graham won the Lead Actor Award,
everyone's really supporting because no one's in. No one person
is in more than two episodes of the show.

Speaker 1 (59:26):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (59:27):
Yeah, it's really.

Speaker 1 (59:30):
Like incredible writing to you know, weave something like that
together without a main character, so to speak.

Speaker 2 (59:37):
Yeah, no, no question. And one of my other favorite
speeches that night that night was Lead Actress in a
Limited Series winner Christi Miliatti for The Penguin, which one
which combined with that win and the wins of the
Creative Arts, won nine Emmys this year, so Penguin was
really well liked. She when she got up on stage,

(59:59):
she pulled out her speech and she said that she
had taken these notes on the back of her pad
during therapy, so please don't read the back of this
paper that close. And she's a great long time actress,
so it was wonderful to see her, uh pick up
that win. And I'm trying to think what else won
big well, one of the big One of the winners,

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interestingly enough, at the Creative Arts two weeks ago was
Jimmy Kimmel. He was he went out Standing game show
host for Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? Did that
gig as far as I know he does, as far
as I know he still does.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
But so he didn't host this year's shows, any of
the award shows and stuff. Who hosted this this year's
Emmys this year was.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
Nate Bargatzi, who's been very well received with his with
I believe his most recent stand special was called Your
Friend Nate Bargotzi, and he's hosted SNL a couple of
times to some very two very well received notices, but
unfortun didn't really stick the landing this one. This one
just didn't work. Had an okay opening skit, but then

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his basically every time he came back out, he was
doing this bit where he was saying, I'm going to
donate one hundred thousand dollars to the Boys and Girls
Club of America and for every second that a person
goes over on their acceptance speech time, we're going to
take away one thousand dollars, and it kind of just
it became very repetitive. It just it just didn't work.

(01:01:29):
I don't think I've seen work. I have seen worse,
but it did not work very well.

Speaker 1 (01:01:34):
Did. I had heard some criticism that basically the producers
this year, you know, played it really safe, really kind
of like straight, you know, walk out hand the Awards
like movie like.

Speaker 2 (01:01:48):
It was not that always some bad banter though, and
I've and I've seen some bad award show banter. This
year's was pretty fucking It was pretty bad. They did
not If a friend of mine was actually saying it
felt like he was watching a bad ammy broadcast from
the eighties.

Speaker 1 (01:02:00):
Oh wow.

Speaker 2 (01:02:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:02:02):
I mean, was it kind of like phoned in basically,
or was it just people being so careful they didn't
want to say anything.

Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I think it was phoned in. I think it was
phoned in. I don't think I don't think it was
a matter of safety. I think it was just that
the material was just just not there. But as I said,
it was a mediocre ceremony saved by some great winners.

Speaker 1 (01:02:20):
Who knew it'd be tough to write something fun and
unifying and interesting in a time when the Republic is
sliding into.

Speaker 2 (01:02:30):
And or territory. Yeah, who would have thought?

Speaker 1 (01:02:34):
I mean, okay, so what else do we have going
on about the Emmys before? Because we know that Oscars
are coming up, right, so we do want to ask
you about that too. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:46):
I think that's basically it with the Emmys. You know,
we're just waiting for I'm excited for The Pit season two,
which is gonna be coming out in January, and there
are a couple other shows I'm really excited about. I
wish we could have seen what we do in the
show take home uh take Home Something, because that is
one of the most brilliant show, one of the most
one of the funniest shows in the past, you know,

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several years, and I would have loved to have seen
that pick up something but Island one, Yes, that's someone
about the vampires on Staten Island. It is so so funny,
and they really stuck their landing with the final season
this year. I really I really enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
It, being that I had married to uh, you know
Staten Island.

Speaker 14 (01:03:28):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (01:03:28):
I've seen little bits of that show, and I think
it's quite funny myself.

Speaker 12 (01:03:33):
I want to I want to ask, was there any
shows that you felt was snubbed from being nominated.

Speaker 2 (01:03:41):
One of my favorite shows from this past year was
a little show on Prime called over Compensating from Benito
Skinner who had found an audience on TikTok with some
of his skits on TikTok Uh. And it's basically a
semi autobiographical series about about he plays a high school
jock who goes to college and he's wrestling being you know,

(01:04:04):
being closeted and trying to find a way to you know,
become comfortable with himself. It's a great comedy. It's hilarious,
it's uh, it's it's it's rad she It's it's fantastic.
I love that show so much, and it just got
the series order for a second season. I would have
I would have loved to have seen that, especially there's

(01:04:25):
one episode where his uh, his best friend is makes
it her mission to try to get him to to
to have his first gay hookup and she knows she
sets him up on grinder with with uh with this
guy who ends up being actually in an open relationship
with his with his husband and the husband the husbands

(01:04:47):
are played by Bowen Yang and Matt Rogers, and they
they're only in it for like maybe three minutes top,
but they are fucking hilarious in it. They are so
goddamn funny in it as this as basically like you know,
bow and Yang's going, our marriage is falling apart, and
you're worried about the carpet.

Speaker 1 (01:05:09):
Bow and Yang is just absolutely hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
Riceless, absolutely priceless. Yeah, I would have loved to have
seen that show get in. I almost said peace Maker,
but that's that's airing right now, so that will be
eligible for next year, so I can I can say
that will be disappointed when it doesn't get recognized for
next year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:29):
All right, So the Oscars are coming up right in
a few months time, and are we in voting season now?

Speaker 2 (01:05:35):
We're in festival season right now. So we've had the
big festivals that have gone on right now, is tell
you right out in Colorado and Toronto, up in Toronto
and Venice, those those festivals have played out. And Middleburg
here to the DC area is coming up in just

(01:05:55):
a couple of weeks, in just a month, I will
be out there covering it for Bold Derby, and I
just thought we would take a look and see what
we at gold Derby have as our ten are predicted
ten nominees for Best Picture right now?

Speaker 1 (01:06:08):
If I may, yeah, absolutely so. Do you get extra
points for predicting the nominees in advance? And in addition
to predicting the winners?

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
We get bragging rights if we get if we did,
if we're able to say that we predicted the correct
Best Picture winner at this point in the race, yeah
we get, we get major bragging rights.

Speaker 1 (01:06:26):
Yeah. I think at that point to go down in
history is like the best at this ever.

Speaker 2 (01:06:30):
Yeah, I think some of us have to. I think
some of us. I think someone has to buy us
a sub too. But I'm not sure, but I'm not
but I'm a positive about that. Okay, I'm going ten
to one on this one. So in number ten right now,
we have a movie called Jake Kelly is latest from
Noah Bomback, who made Marriage Story. It's about a famous
actor and his agent who reflect on their choices, relationships,

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and legacies during a trip through Europe. The actor is
played by George Clooney and his agent is played by
Adam Sandler.

Speaker 1 (01:06:58):
Wow, yeah, that sounds like the sort of movie that
is made specifically to try to win an oscar exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Yes, And it has Laura Dern in it too, So.

Speaker 1 (01:07:07):
Yeah, that's a giveaway, okay, sure.

Speaker 2 (01:07:09):
And number nine we have Springsteen Deliver Me from Nowhere,
which is chronicles Bruce Springsteen's conception of making of his
nineteen eighty two album Nebraska. Jeremy Allen White from the
Bear and Shameless will be starring as Bruce Springsteen. Jeremy
Strong will be playing his longtime manager. Emmy winner Stephen Graham,

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who just went for Adolescents, will be playing Bruce's father.
You also have Paul Walter Hauser and Mark Marin will
be in this as well. So who's gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:07:37):
Little Stevie van Zant's who's gonna be?

Speaker 2 (01:07:40):
Oh, I don't know who's playing Little Stephen. I don't
know who's playing Little Stephen.

Speaker 1 (01:07:44):
That's that's important, right, He's my favorite part of that
whole band.

Speaker 2 (01:07:47):
I mean, it'd be great if they just had Stephen
van Zant do it.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Yeah, he is.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
He is the actor, Yeah he is. He's not great Onrandos.
He was fantastic on that show.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
Yeah, and his radio show is like my favorite radio
show in the world.

Speaker 2 (01:08:03):
I love Stephen Vinzay, he's the best.

Speaker 1 (01:08:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Then in number eight, we have an Iranian film called
It Was Just an Accident. A small car accident triggers
a major chain of events stemming from a former political
prisoner believing he's recognized his former torturer from prison.

Speaker 17 (01:08:22):
Whoa.

Speaker 2 (01:08:23):
This is the latest from uh persecuted legendary persecuted Iranian
filmmaker Jafar Panahi, who had been imprisoned in Iran, first
in prison and then on house arrest. He wasn't allowed
to leave the country for quote propaganda against the Islamic regime.
He but he still made movies even while he was

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under house arrest, and he wasn't supposed to be. His
first movie made under house arrest was literally called this
is not a film. That's how he stuck it. He
stuck it out on a USB drive with the file
saying this is not a film. Uh yeah, And he
won the but he is able to go. He is
he is out from under house arrest.

Speaker 4 (01:09:02):
Now.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
He was at the cann Film Festival where he won
the Palm d'Or the Big Prize uh, and it has
and even though Iran hasn't submitted it as their as
their submission, France has submitted it as their as their
submission for international features. So that'll be something to keep
an eye on. I actually have it as my number
one right now, just because I think it would be
I think it's a fun narrative for, you know, someone

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who is imprisoned, uh, you know, winning Oscar gold.

Speaker 1 (01:09:27):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Number seven. We have a film called Begonia uh, which
is about two conspiracy theorists who kidnap a high powered CEO,
believing that she's actually an alien with the intentions of
destroying the earth naturally. The CEO is played by Emma Stone,
one of the conspiracy theorists played by Jesse Plemmons, and

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is directed by Yorgos Lanthemos, who did The Favorite and
Poor Things, which when emistone her most recent Oscar two
years ago.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
I love Amastone. She's so funny, she's the she's.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
She's real one of our best working actresses right now.
I am completely fine with the fact that she has
two and I don't mind if she wins the third.
She's really that great.

Speaker 1 (01:10:08):
Yeh.

Speaker 2 (01:10:08):
She's great in sixth place, we have a movie called
Marty Supreme, which is about a young man who has
a dream that no one seems to respect, but goes
to amazing lengths in order to make himself the best.
It is starring Timothy Chalomey, Gwyneth Paltrow and fran Drescher.
It's directed by Josh Saftee, who's one half of the

(01:10:29):
Saftie Brothers who made Adam Sandler's movie Uncut Gems or
Uncut Jams as it's sometimes called.

Speaker 1 (01:10:35):
It is the Marty Supreme sort of like the Marty
meat Lovers, but with vegetables, right.

Speaker 2 (01:10:42):
That's what I'm thinking. That's my understanding of it. Actually, yeah, yeah.
In fifth place, we have one battle after another. This
is the latest from Paul Thomas Sanderson, who made Liquorice, Pizza,
Phantom Thread, Boogie Knights, Magnolia, and There Will Be Blood.
It's about a group of ex revolutionaries who unite to
help rescue one of their own daughters after their enemy

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resurfaces after sixteen years. It stars Leonardo DiCaprio, Sean Penn,
Benicio del Toro, Regina Hall, and Teyana Taylor.

Speaker 1 (01:11:13):
So Taken with even more actors, Oh yes, oh yes.

Speaker 2 (01:11:17):
And Sean Penn plays the the evil enemy who resurfaces
and that to yeah, I can't wait for that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:24):
Yeah, that sounds cool.

Speaker 2 (01:11:26):
Number four, we have Wicked for Good, the second part
of the origin story of Alphabe the Wicked Witch of
the West and Glinda, the Good Witch of the North,
starring Cynthia Revia, Cynthia Rivo, Ariana Grande, Jonathan Bailey, bow
and Yang, Jeff cold Bloom, and Michelle Yo. And I
know Wicked got a lot of good reviews, but me

(01:11:48):
and most other people who have issues with Wicked has
been the second act of the show. And that's what
this whole movie is. It's the second act. So we'll
see how that goes.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Just side note, as some who owns several small children
who happen to be little girls, I'm okay with them
not making more Wicked like that. I could not get
this shit to shut up. Now I got K Pop
Demon Hunters.

Speaker 2 (01:12:14):
Oh my god.

Speaker 1 (01:12:15):
I just like, if I never hear one of those
songs again, will be too soon. I am an. I
don't care how Venti Grande is, like, that is enough.

Speaker 2 (01:12:25):
I have to hear Cynthia Orrivo belt one more time,
I'm gonna choke a bitch.

Speaker 1 (01:12:30):
I just it's not that I don't think they're talented.
It's not that I don't think the movie's cool looking
and the you know, the visual aspects of it are
grained or whatever. But like that thing was on twenty
four hours a day in my house for like three months,
and I am so tired of that movie.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
Yeah you are done with that shit?

Speaker 1 (01:12:45):
Yes, yes, I'd rather watch Mulwana for the nineteen millionth time,
or even a couple of times through Frozen than Christ. Dude,
you don't even know.

Speaker 4 (01:12:57):
Oh no, I know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:58):
No. I have a very good friend of mine. His
daughter was very into Frozen. She's she's seventeen now, but
she was when when Frozen came out.

Speaker 1 (01:13:06):
Oh man, that was Frozen two and and I mean
just like, little girls are great. I love being a girl. Dad.
They are just the light of my life. But their
choice in movies is terrible and it's and and I
don't know what this is about kids, but they watched
the same fucking movie over and over and over and
over again.

Speaker 2 (01:13:25):
Yeah, why do they do that? For me? That was
a Laddin the Lion King and sister act.

Speaker 1 (01:13:30):
Yeah, I watched The Laddin a bunch of times, but
not in a row. My brother used to like finish
Lion King, rewind it and then watch it again yep,
like yep, without getting off the couch, and it's like, dude,
that's enough.

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
Yo, or you pop it in the automatic rewinder.

Speaker 1 (01:13:44):
We did not have one of those.

Speaker 2 (01:13:46):
Oh you didn't have one of those.

Speaker 1 (01:13:47):
Yeah, we had to use the VCR to rewind. So
that was when we can get and how primitive. Yeah,
I know, well we were poor.

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
In number three, we have a movie called Sentimental Value.
It's a Norwegian movie. Following the death of their mother,
too Estrange sisters are forced to confront their father, who's
a fading movie star who abandoned them when they were young.
Oh lord, yes, this is the official Norwegian entry for
International Feature. Its stars Renata Rionsba and Stelln's scarsguard and

(01:14:15):
El Fanning is also in this movie.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
Okay, could there be like a more like stereotypical Oh
this is what we think Hollywood does to self congratulate it,
Oh my god.

Speaker 2 (01:14:27):
Or maybe it's just trying to hold a satirical mirror
up to it. I will say. The director of the
Joe King Truer. This is his follow up movie to
a movie he made four years ago, which I'm convinced
he made just so that if it got awards attention,
people would have to say the name of the movie.
The name of the movie is called The Worst Person
in the World, which I just love like, and he
got an Original Screenplay domination for it. I was just
you know, and the Oscar goes to the Worst Person

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in the World and someone goes to Harvey Weinstein get
out of jail.

Speaker 1 (01:14:51):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
So I've been hearing very good things about this. This
is when the second prize prize. It can the Grand
Prix at number two. Probably the most popular what is
currently the most popular movie on this list Sinners from
earlier this year, Twin brothers returned to their hometown in
nineteen thirties, Mississippi, to reestablish themselves, only to find an

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even greater evil that seeks to take over. We have
that it was in first place for a long time.
It just got knocked down number two recently. This would
also be it would not be the first nomination for
Ryan Kugler, although the only nomination Ryan Kugler has is
in the Original Song category for the song from Black Panther.

(01:15:35):
He's one of the songwriters on that. Hey, so this
would be this would be his first nomination as a
director or writer. It would be also the first nomination
for Michael B. Jordan if he were to get in
for this. And he's someone who has a bit of
an iou from the Oscars.

Speaker 1 (01:15:48):
You know, that's pretty wild because like the two of them,
you know, they've done so many great things together. And
I mean Coogler in particular, I think is sort of
regarded as like the best at movies currently in Hollywood.

Speaker 2 (01:16:03):
Is and that the way that they probably him and
Christopher Nolan I think are probably top two. Yeah, but
it just got knocked off by the number one movie,
which won the People's Choice Award at the Toronto Film Test.

Speaker 4 (01:16:15):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:16:15):
It's called Hamnet. It examines the relationship between William Shakespeare
and his wife Agnes and the impact that the death
of their eleven year old son had on them. It
stars Jesse Buckley and Paul Meskell. It's directed by Chloe Jao,
who directed the Best Picture winner No Mad Land from
a couple of years ago. So, and this has been
getting some really rave reviews. I'm very excited. It's been

(01:16:36):
announced that this will be playing at Middleburg. It will
be I believe the either the opening night or the Center.
It's the centerpiece one, so I believe it's screening Saturday night.
So I am very excited about seeing that. And that's
what we have. We'll see how the rest of the
Oscar season shakes up with how everything.

Speaker 1 (01:16:54):
Works, all right, So you all heard it here first.
If it does go as you predicted, what what will
we all get as a as a collective audience.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
It was just an accident, the Iranian film. That's what
I That's what I have in my number one slot
for right now.

Speaker 1 (01:17:12):
Okay, that's that's the So that's what we're all rooting for.
We will, We'll all root for the accident. I'm sorry
the film about the accident about it.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
It was just an accident, Yes, Charlie.

Speaker 6 (01:17:25):
Is there a dark horse that you are not aware of?
Your mind? You you probably are based off.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
Of me that he's aware of, But then nobody else
is no one else?

Speaker 6 (01:17:35):
Is Is there a dark horse that may that surprise,
may surprise people?

Speaker 2 (01:17:40):
At this point, I'm not really sure. I'm just because
we're starting to get those reactions in, so like a
lot of stuff that we thought may have been Like,
there has been some buzz about the movie The Smashing Machine,
the one with Dwayne Johnson, uh, because he's been getting
some buzz in the best actor category, but the film
has not been getting very particularly positive reviews. And then

(01:18:03):
there's a movie like what's it called Christy with Sidney
Sweeney where she plays the female boxer that's been getting
mixed reviews. So that's kind of fallen by the wayside,
except maybe, you know, maybe Sidney Sweeney might might get in.
I'm not sure at the moment. There are some that
I'm personally like waiting for. One is the new Catherine

(01:18:24):
Bigelow movie called I think it's called a House of Dynamite.
It's all about the response to a possible nuclear strike
on the US. You know, this is from the same
woman who did the herd Locker and Zero darc thirty,
so I love I love her work. And Point Break
can't forget Point Break, so will I can't wait to

(01:18:45):
see that. But that'll be on Netflix, so you never
really know. Netflix hasn't. Netflix has been trying to buy
a Best Picture Oscar for so long and they have
not been able to do it. Apple beat them to it.

Speaker 12 (01:18:57):
Another question is I don't know if you're where of
I think it's Amy Flower, and she posted a statement
about why.

Speaker 6 (01:19:08):
Comedies are not.

Speaker 12 (01:19:09):
Getting a lot of recognition in oscars pretty much for
a very long time, you know, based off of even
what I've seen, it's mostly been the dramatic actings and
stuff that get any form or nods, and and I
still most nobly. I know there's been some actors of
one we're either been nominated for a role in a

(01:19:31):
comedic role, but you know, as for like someone winning,
the only one I can think of is whoopee for Ghosts,
And I felt like that was just a you know,
you know, hey, we're sorry we didn't give it to
you for Color Purple, but here take this one.

Speaker 2 (01:19:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:19:47):
Yeah, But do you feel like comedy either, I feel
like I.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
Do feel like comedy sometimes does not get its proper due,
but it does get but it does get its due sometimes,
you know, like I used to. I think one of
the wins that's actually aged magnificently has been Marissa Tomey
supporting actress win for my cousin Vinny. Yeah, that's a
that's a great that's a win that I think is fantastic.

Speaker 5 (01:20:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:20:12):
But yeah, they do tend to go towards, you know,
the dramatic stuff, you know, and the stuff that we
would say is Oscar bait. But you know, when you
see someone like a Melissa McCarthy get in for Bride'smaids,
you know that is wholly earned. And even last year's winner, Anora,
is kind of a comedy drama. I mean, it's there
are some vary scenes where you are just laughing out

(01:20:34):
loud because the whole thing is just completely absurd. Uh,
but it's but there is sort of a there is
a genre bias. I'm not gonna lie that there that
there isn't.

Speaker 1 (01:20:44):
But the comedies win at the box office, so you
know they can't be too upset about that.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Yeah, exactly. And and but oftentimes you'll see sometimes for
someone who's known for comedic work, they'll try to work
that when they do a dramatic role that starts getting
Oscar buzz. They'll try to say, oh, look, the person
who's known for comedy is able to do is able
to do this, Adam Sandler, Adams Adams. This might be
Adam Sandler's first Oscar nomination. If he were too. He's

(01:21:10):
someone who's actually been building a lot of good will
over the years with a lot of his performances, so
I would.

Speaker 1 (01:21:16):
Not be like the sand Man.

Speaker 2 (01:21:17):
I mean, come on, he should have been an Emmy
winner this past weekend for his song for his song
from the SNL fiftieth anniversaries. Yeah, I mean if you
had told me going into that that the most moving
part of that would be an Adam Sandlers song, I
would have said, you're fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 (01:21:31):
No, that's not crazy, because he first of all, he's
good at writing these songs, and even when they're funny
and ridiculous, they're often heartfelt.

Speaker 2 (01:21:40):
And I was not expecting it to be as moving
as it was and ended up being the best part
of the entire special.

Speaker 1 (01:21:46):
I thought the whole thing was great, and not just
the special, but just all the lead up to it
and all the extra things about like the music of
SNL and all that stuff that Quesla did, and it was. Yeah,
the fiftieth was a really big thing. I'm looking forward to, like,
I don't know if I'm looking forward to like what
is going to be on us and all this year.
But like, what are we going to see with all

(01:22:07):
the shakeup? But that's first, go.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
Go, go for the gut, Go for the gut.

Speaker 5 (01:22:13):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:22:13):
Yeah, Well, do they have the courage to do it?
I mean I know that that Jost and uh and
Chay do, But the question is whether Lauren does.

Speaker 2 (01:22:21):
Yeah, that's that's the real that's the real question there.

Speaker 1 (01:22:24):
Yeah, because they've got the they've got the impression uh
guy there with yeah, and he who is fantastic, He
absolutely dead on with that and and like change Joe's
will say just about anything. So and I mean they

(01:22:45):
could do it once, right, they can get away with
it once before the censors will hit him. So just yeah,
maybe I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:22:53):
It will be it will I will miss autumn? She
would she's been so great the past several years.

Speaker 1 (01:23:03):
Well and that goes from here or Baltimore. So she's uh,
you know, local local kid. So we yeah, sorry to
see her go.

Speaker 2 (01:23:11):
She got They still got Bowen Yang and mikey Day
and they still got a they still got a solid cast.

Speaker 1 (01:23:18):
Absolutely, I know, I'm not doubting that. The and uh
Marcelo and and like there's some some quality folks there
no question there. And some of the new people coming
in are pretty good too, so I'm not worried about it,
but I'm just I'm I'm really interested to see, especially
in the way of the Kimmel thing, Like, is SNL
gonna do what we wanted to do? You know?

Speaker 2 (01:23:42):
Or I would love it if they I would love
it if they if that, and I would love if
they did it in a really sharp way, you know,
like I miss I miss the old political attitudes of
SNL when you know, like my personal favorite political moment
from SNL ever was when they were satirizing the nineteen
eighty eight Press sidential debate between Ducaucus and Bush, and

(01:24:02):
Bush just goes on this long, rambling answer that means
absolutely nothing, and they go come to Teacacas, your rebubbal
and John Love It says toecaucas because I can't believe
I'm losing this.

Speaker 1 (01:24:11):
Yeah right, it's such a such a great line. Yeah,
I will see what what they do, but I ain't
be great if they got Kimmel to host, that'd be
pretty funny.

Speaker 2 (01:24:21):
That would be fantastic. Yeah, maybe do a joint hosting
of Kimmel and Colbert.

Speaker 1 (01:24:26):
And Colbert yeah right, and so we'll we'll see all right.
Uh so that concludes our culture aspect of the show
where Charlie and to some extent Brian make me look
cultured by proxy. And uh yeah, so you ready to
take a break and then we can get on with
the third half of the show.

Speaker 2 (01:24:44):
I'm ready.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
All right, We're gonna take a break. We'll be back
to the third half of the show. You're listening to
chip chat on Beltweigh Radio and beyond.

Speaker 5 (01:24:57):
In Springfield. They're eating the door.

Speaker 18 (01:25:01):
They're eating the cats. They're eating the pets of the
people that live there. They're eating the dogs. They're eating
the cats. They're eating the pets of the people that
live there.

Speaker 10 (01:25:20):
People love Springfield. Pease don't eat back cats.

Speaker 5 (01:25:25):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 6 (01:25:27):
Eat something else?

Speaker 10 (01:25:31):
People love Springfield. Please don't eat my dog.

Speaker 6 (01:25:35):
Here's a cat, A log of other things to eat.

Speaker 1 (01:25:40):
They're eating the dogs.

Speaker 11 (01:25:42):
They're eating the cats, Sammenon, They're eating the pets of
the people that live there. They're eating the dogs. They're
eating the cats, Sammimon, They're eating the pets of the
people that live there.

Speaker 18 (01:26:00):
They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. They're eating

(01:26:21):
the dogs. They're eating the cats, salmon, the men. They're
eating the pets.

Speaker 10 (01:26:28):
Of the people that live They're eating the dogs.

Speaker 11 (01:26:34):
They're eating the cats, salmon, men, They're eating the pets
of the people that.

Speaker 5 (01:26:39):
Live in Springfield.

Speaker 18 (01:26:45):
They're eating the dogs, the people that came in.

Speaker 5 (01:26:48):
They're eating the cats.

Speaker 18 (01:26:50):
They're eating They're eating the pets of the people that
live there.

Speaker 5 (01:26:55):
And this is what's happened.

Speaker 17 (01:26:57):
I don't like a button chemicals in the water because
they turn the freaking frogs k. Do you understand that
a freaking frobk crap case SOPs frigging sobs fat.

Speaker 6 (01:27:07):
It's not funny.

Speaker 5 (01:27:09):
I'm gonna say real slow for you case frogs.

Speaker 4 (01:27:24):
For your life, okay, ft frigging sobs. I don't like
a frog case bringing frogs, frogs, frigging sob crap.

Speaker 5 (01:27:44):
Don't you break a frog. It's not funny. I'm gonna
say real slow for you from.

Speaker 6 (01:27:56):
Place frogs.

Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Welcome back to Jim jan here me right beyond. I'm
you know, it's Jim with me tonight is Charlie.

Speaker 19 (01:28:15):
And that was of course our favorite Alex Jones uh
bit and before that the crazy opers and glowsticks right now, Yeah,
so as Tez's tradition dictates that after.

Speaker 1 (01:28:31):
We play Alex Jones and laugh at him, we have
to remind everybody that he's a dangerous monster who said
that the kids who were killed at Sandy Hook Elementary
and Newtown, Connecticut were not real or actors or some
other bullshit. And he's bankrupt for that now. But also
we would encourage people to go to Sandy Hook Promise
dot org, maybe donate a few bucks to soothe your

(01:28:56):
soul for laughing at the gay frogs bit.

Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
So there you go.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
Yeah, their turn of the frogs gay speaking of things
that are very damaging to our country, Donald Trump. So,
the Trump administration has ordered the removal of signs and
exhibits related to slavery and multiple national parts, according to

(01:29:23):
four people familiar with the matter, including historic photograph of
a formerly enslaved man showing the scars on his back.
So I'm sure you've been to some of these places.
I've certainly been to a lot of these places that
there's historic things that happen there, some of which involve slavery.
Like a good example around here is Harper's Ferry, right,
A lot of people have been there. You want to

(01:29:44):
go see where John Brown and his band of rebels
led their raid on the armory where they were going
to snatch a bunch of weapons. They did snatch a
bunch of weapons and then tried to go distribute them
to the people on the plantation so that they could
fight for their freedom and hopefully escape, and all of
that kind of stuff. Also around here, of course, there's

(01:30:05):
a lot of the Harriet Tubman things where she lived
in Maryland, and and then then there's stuff like at
Mount Vernon and all of this stuff. So, like, slavery
is a bad thing, I think we can all safely say.
And it I mean it is free labor, yeah, right,

(01:30:26):
in much the way child labor is. You know, it's
it's great.

Speaker 2 (01:30:30):
So they have those little hands that can screw those
things in, you know, you gotta have those little hands.

Speaker 1 (01:30:34):
The Chinese are so good at it.

Speaker 4 (01:30:39):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:30:40):
So you know, despite what Kanye and what's his name,
the brain surgeon guy Carson is always asleep, Yeah Carson.
Despite what they said, like slavery was bad and it's
not just immigration or something like that. It's a terrible
thing that happened in our country. And it's okay to

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know about it. It's a matter of fact, it's critical
that people do know about it. It's critical that people
understand the impacts of it. And you're not going to
get that from a sign, but it might at least
get you to like not go, oh, well, that wonderful
plantation just looks so beautiful. I wonder if the people

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who worked there felt happy about it, or something like.

Speaker 2 (01:31:25):
How could you not feel happy going to work at
a beautiful place like that?

Speaker 1 (01:31:29):
Exactly? Yeah, Like, let's just give things a little bit
of context or something like that. But there's a deeper
problem with all of this, right, is that this is
this thing that we've been warning about, that we've been mentioning,
that we think that people need to be very, very
worried about. Is that this is part of the fascist playbook.
Rewriting history, changing the textbooks, changing what the people learn.

(01:31:52):
A tax on education and a tax on the shared
collective knowledge of the people is part of how you
do fascism. And we keep I keep hammering this thing
that like, this is not new, it's not novel, it's
not creative, it's not even like different. It's exactly the

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thing that we see everywhere else, that we've seen in Turkey,
the thing that we've seen in Argentina, or the thing
that we saw in Chile or Cambodia or you know,
insert totalitarian dictatorship here. This is one of the key
things that they do is go after the cultural institutions.

(01:32:39):
I don't know how else to really take this other
than a direct attack on on the collective history of
this coin.

Speaker 6 (01:32:46):
I would like to put a huge that's the way thoughts.

Speaker 12 (01:32:54):
When you initially started going after the African American Museum,
I knew there was, like, like you said, the writing
was on the wall there, because again, you want to
you're not just trying to rewrite history, you're trying to
take away history as well. And a lot of you

(01:33:16):
can say, African American or black history or whatever how
you want to call it, has been like nullified. You know,
you barely hear it at all. I mean when I
was growing up, I didn't hear anything about certain black
people who've done amazing things in association to those but

(01:33:36):
what their white counterparts. I mean, it is like unheard.
I figured, it's like this, I've been told about Thomas Epison. No,
there's this black dude who or it actually was part
of the work. Why didn't hear about him? Because that's
how it's always been. They you elevate those who again,
who's ever in power, who is at majority rules? And

(01:33:59):
you're trying to say, hey, this is what these are
the brand people that we want to shine, not the others.
And it's and it's kind of unfortunate the fact that
you're trying to eliminate not only two hundred years of
this country, but even further along back that you're it's

(01:34:21):
it just feels like, dude, you so you're want to
re educate, trying to re educate everyone, which I doubt
that will happen, but you're but I know, for well,
you're trying to influence those before, you know, before all this,
and by the time they, you know, they go to school,
they're not going to learn about the Egger carvers or

(01:34:42):
the Fred reguglasses or even those in modern day of
President Obama or you know, shoot, even Kamala Harris and
things like that. That is what you're trying to do.
And it feels like, dude, you are doing a huge disservice.

Speaker 6 (01:34:58):
And I felt like this, like.

Speaker 12 (01:35:00):
It's kind of unfortunate. It's like, again, like the first
song we played. This is a hostile government takeover.

Speaker 1 (01:35:08):
It is very much that think about think about the
word that you just used about re education, and think
about other times in history or other places where we've
seen that word used, and it's Mao and stalin and
it's taking people away to get their brains reprogrammed to

(01:35:28):
love dear leader above all. And to your point about
a racing history, you know, there's a serious risk that history,
the physical texts of the history, the traces of this,
the historic locations, landmarks, buildings, artifacts, could be destroyed in

(01:35:50):
a way that they can never be recovered. And so
long as the Internet wayback machine works, right, a lot
of the stuff that's archived or that ever was printed
or displayed on the National Park websites or the Smithsonian
websites or anything like that will still exist someplace. But

(01:36:10):
the physical structures, right, you know what I mean, the
house that Frederick Douglass lived in that's on in Bladensburg
that we all drive by all the time, that could
get bulldozed and then what you know, the pictures of
it on the internet.

Speaker 6 (01:36:24):
Will not do justice.

Speaker 12 (01:36:26):
No, I've been to a plantation in Georgia. It's like
like I said, it's it's it seemed like like a
whole bunch of cottages and stuff like that. But knowing
the history that a lot of black people were forced
to live here, pulled away from, you know, whatever African

(01:36:47):
nation they were pulled from, or even a Caribbean nation
they were pulled from to come here, be forced to
work and put it in these places and and and
live here in tight quarters and things of that nature.
Just to say, you know, just to again obey to
those white, lazy white people who did want to pick
their on cotton and stuff like that. It's it's, it's

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there's educational aspect of it. It's knowing the fact.

Speaker 6 (01:37:13):
It's like this happened.

Speaker 12 (01:37:15):
And and I for someone like a person like Donald Trump,
who probably failed history ten times over, doesn't want to
relive that or doesn't want to, you know, let everyone
else know that, because in a weird way, he wants
to say, hey, a miracle was better than this.

Speaker 6 (01:37:29):
No, they weren't.

Speaker 12 (01:37:30):
No, you've been saying this for years. A lot of
people have been denying this for years. And it's like, look,
America has and shall always be a racist nation until
they fully admit it, until and even though there will
be a lot of leaders of whatever color will say
it's like, yeah, we've been like this. But when it

(01:37:50):
comes to someone on top of that and you get
a someone I wouldn't say Donald Trump because he won't
say it, but if you get someone like back then,
if he had Bill Clinton say it, or any of
the Bushes or even Reagan, they even said, how America,
if America was the racist nation back then, that would
have changed everything.

Speaker 6 (01:38:10):
But no, they kept status quo. And that's the unfortunate
thing here.

Speaker 2 (01:38:14):
Well, and also the whole just the whole idea of
government coming in and dictating what is written in the
museum should be frightening enough on its own, Yeah, but
the way that they're targeting it, and now they're now
they're trying I've heard he's even thinking about trying to
go after some of the exhibits of the Holocaust Museum.

Speaker 1 (01:38:34):
He is, he's been trying. He's been thinking about that.
But there isn't the mechanism for it is in a
direct I mean, they have far more control over the
National Park Service. But to the point here about the
physical aspects of some of this, and you know, with
the Holocaust Museum, is a good example. I have been
with people who want desperately for history not to be

(01:38:55):
what it is and don't believe or will fully pretend
that they don't believe that certain things happen until you
put them in proximity to or where they can touch
the physical artifact that is the direct connection to this thing.

(01:39:15):
And so if you've got people who want to say
that slavery didn't happen, or it wasn't that bad, or
that this country isn't racist, putting them next to a
slave cabin, putting them on a plantation where they can
see how people were tractors, putting them in these places
where they can understand they can't escape it. It does

(01:39:38):
change minds, and that is what they're trying to erase
here and think about Also the why. Okay, if the
why is because you know that it's bad but you
don't want to confront it, it's not that they don't
they don't think it's bad. They know it's bad, they

(01:39:59):
know that slavery was awful. They just don't want to
have to share in the collective pain of that. But
they don't mind all of the people who are descended
thereof sharing in a worse collective pain. But I get that.

Speaker 12 (01:40:17):
I'll give you a perfect, perfect story for it. And
and since Charlie's here, you know, because based off it's
about the movies.

Speaker 6 (01:40:27):
My dad.

Speaker 12 (01:40:30):
For back when I was like ten years old, I
say this a lot to a lot of people. I
was forced to watch Roots. I did not like the show.
I didn't care about the show. I didn't even though
it's a very historical television program that every black child

(01:40:50):
should see, blah blah blah. But as I was watching it,
all I can think about in my brain cells was like,
this isn't neat not saying the fact is like not
me as in, you know, a colored person, just me
as an individual. This is Alex Hayley's story.

Speaker 6 (01:41:09):
That's him. Now my history is completely different.

Speaker 12 (01:41:14):
I'm not you know, I can go back to in
addition to yeah, we had slaveries here, but also we
have Native Americans as well, so I can understand. I
can respect in that emirate for his story. I just
felt like, it's like I just don't need that right now.
I'll yeah, but mind you, I'm glad I saw it,

(01:41:35):
especially since they did a stupid redude which didn't make
any sense, and it kind of toned down certain things.
I felt like, dude, you just wasted your money.

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
Let's go in.

Speaker 12 (01:41:45):
Pretty much forty years plus year later, we get into
twelve Years of Slave. After seeing that movie, I literally
said to myself, I am freaking done. I do not
need to see another slave. I know there's some significance
for it, but damn it, I am so hardly highly

(01:42:06):
done with this because it feels like you're exploiting the
pain and suffering and a lot of people went through
and for what to still to say this, like, oh,
we need to put that out there to let people
know this happened. Okay, how many slave moveds do we
need to let people know that this happened And get

(01:42:26):
to the point where it's like someone someone that's not
my color, to literally admit the fact that it's like, hey,
this needs to stop. This needs to be acknowledged, and
we got to rebuild the consciousness of a lot of
people that know the fact that's like what we've done,
and again added the fact of reparations need to be

(01:42:47):
added to the lot of these and black Americans that
you put us through for almost over four hundred years
until that happens again. We're gonna I bet you, I
bet you, somewhere in Hollywood is writing up another slave story.
And even though it's saying is like, oh, we're trying
to again expose the fact that slavery happened, are you,

(01:43:11):
even though we have well evidence everywhere. And on top
of that, the way I see with this administration in
the end, I feel like it's not about letting people
know what's going on out there or what happened back
in you know, fourteen whatever or fifteen whatever. The way
I see it is is like exploiting the fact of
how white Americans dominated dominated everything. That's where I feel

(01:43:35):
like we may be going through in this silly administration.
If he fully gets away with whatever he's doing, well,
that's very.

Speaker 1 (01:43:42):
Clearly what he's trying to do.

Speaker 2 (01:43:44):
And either way, it's interesting. He brought up Twelve Years
of Slave That is the I think that's the only
movie I've actually been physically nauseous during. And I think
you probably know which scene I'm talking about. Yeah, I was.
I felt myself physically getting sick during that scene.

Speaker 1 (01:44:04):
I think that the concern that the exploited nature of
you know, art based around this stuff. That's fair enough,
but the history needs to be accessible. It needs to
be and we're talking about it in a historical context.
I'm not talking about a movie. I'm talking about knowing
that when you go to Monticello, that the reason that

(01:44:27):
the things happened there, that that was a functioning farm
was because of human labor that was forced, and the
separation of families and the destruction of the humanity of
the people involved in the removal of their names and
culture and their access to education and safety and freedom,

(01:44:49):
and the treating them like property and lives that is inescapable,
and the white Americans, if you it really does kind
of speak about who you are as a person. If
what you want to do is continue to, as the
Articles of Secession clearly pointed out, maintain white supremacy and

(01:45:15):
live in a place where you get to have at
the expense of people who are not white. If that's
what you want to have, then that is this stuff
has got to go because you can't have anybody pointing
out that your gains are ill gotten. And even if
you come and say, oh, well, my family wasn't slave holders,

(01:45:36):
you know we got here in the last hundred years
we're not that the concept of whiteness, which is ridiculous
and totally artificial, only exists in context of oppression of
people who aren't. You know, there is no reason to
be white if you're not oppressing people who aren't. This

(01:46:00):
is a creation of white supremacists. It's a creation of
the slave mentality, the enslaver mentality. And so the even
white folks who are descended of people who have only
been here post slavery, are still benefiting from the country
and the wealth and the systems that were set up

(01:46:23):
by the original sin of slavery in the United States,
and that needs to be confronted. And that is the
kind of things that sixteen nineteen project was working on
confronting that schools are still trying to teach in a
way that is whole and complete and will let people

(01:46:46):
have the tools and the understanding to be able to
really interact with the rest of society, not only with
their white friends, and also to be able to understand
how things got to where they are. That's a critical
thing that you really need to have that you're going
to be a real citizen.

Speaker 2 (01:47:02):
You can't. That's the thing about it is that, well,
that's The other thing about it is that it also
to to to acknowledge it in the way that acknowledges
reality would also kind of acknowledge that the problem, that
the problems that stem from it are systemic, and that
they're still here exactly. No, that the fact that we're
still dealing with it, the fact that you know, it's
it's you know, it's it's like this bullshit thing. It's like,

(01:47:24):
it's like, did you see the the interview that Klein
did with the Hope of the Jews Ben Shapiro?

Speaker 1 (01:47:31):
Ye?

Speaker 2 (01:47:33):
Do you see the interview where he was.

Speaker 1 (01:47:34):
Not try to avoid everything about Ben Shapiro.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
It's at this point I'm ready to start avoiding everything
with us or Klin also. But but he's saying like
about how Obama like radical like like like with Obama
radicalized them, and I'm just thinking, it's it reminds me
of this bullshit thing that we that we say that
we see nowadays with like with with the the Roberts
decision with the Supreme Court about the voting rights basically

(01:48:00):
say hey, you guy, we got a black president. What
more do you want?

Speaker 1 (01:48:04):
Yeah, it's solved, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:48:06):
And and yeah, and that's what Betchapier would say, is like,
we like we expected Obama to be this person that
it's like, what the fuck are you? We've been talking
about this. It's it's all related because we've had because
even once they the slaves were freed, we passed, we
passed laws that further restricted black people in terms of
what they could do. We had redlining, We've had all

(01:48:27):
this ship We've had the white flight away from the
cities and the suburbs.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
It's it's it.

Speaker 2 (01:48:32):
And then we had and then of course you had
Jim Crew. It's all linked.

Speaker 1 (01:48:37):
It's all linked. And to bring in the Supreme Court, right,
we have to remember also all the decisions over the
years that the Supreme Court has done that have either
continued the white supremacist attitudes of this country, whether it's
Dred Scott or whether it's even the dismantling the Voting
Rights Act, or whether it's even this, uh, the doctrine

(01:48:58):
about whether it's intentional harm versus it turned out that way.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
And you know, for so long, I mean this shit
that we just saw what was it last week with
the decision about racial re filing.

Speaker 1 (01:49:13):
Yeah, so you know, for years, the courts basically had
found that even if it wasn't intended to be racist,
if the result was racist, then therefore the action is
racist and it violates civil rights law, or it violates
Fourteenth Amendment. And the Supreme Court is upended that and said, look,
unless you can find somebody directly saying we're going to

(01:49:34):
do this on account of race, you can't say even
if the outcomes are decidedly racist, you can't say that.
And all of this is in service of maintaining white supremacy.
The destruction of history, the abandoning of education, the attack
on education, all of this is in service of exactly
one thing. And I just for the life of me,
cannot understand why that is the thing that they want

(01:49:57):
so badly, if it isn't just their only motivation for existence.

Speaker 6 (01:50:01):
Because I really believe that they do not want to
fully admit majority.

Speaker 1 (01:50:08):
That's what I'm saying. I get.

Speaker 6 (01:50:10):
But the thing is, it's like.

Speaker 12 (01:50:11):
When it was one thing, when it was being done
in Florida and it and again you have a governor
there who's he seems educated but really isn't, and it
just feels like, Okay, You're now have a president who
wants to try to do the rest of the nation.

Speaker 6 (01:50:28):
And it's like, why, it's like what you're trying to
improve here?

Speaker 12 (01:50:33):
You know, because it's honestly, it is like you forget
the fact is like there's a high percentage of non
whites who will teach how history.

Speaker 1 (01:50:42):
Is, you know well, and and Florida, good thing you
brought that up.

Speaker 2 (01:50:47):
Right.

Speaker 1 (01:50:48):
If you don't really understand the depth of how terrible
something is, whether it's slavery or something else, people get
cavalier with the term. And here you have the surgeon
general of the state of Florida comparing vaccine mandates to slavery.

(01:51:10):
And he's black, and that is only really doable. The
only reason anybody would ever say something so ridiculous and
hurtful is if they basically have numb themselves to it.
You know, it was a while ago. It's not a
real bad. It wasn't that bad. Right. The reason you
can think that, the reason you might even be able
to safely hold that in your mind that it wasn't

(01:51:32):
that bad, is because you don't know how bad it is.
And if what you want to do is be able
to continue to perpetuate it. The only reason you eliminate
this knowledge is because you want to keep doing it
to somebody. That's the thing. And I do want to
highlight that this really does get to this other thing
that we were talking about, where it doesn't make sense

(01:51:56):
to tie Republicans in the current state or the Trump
movement to a linear set of logic because they say
things that contradict themselves all the time. They want free speech,
and they want to cancel things. They say they want
a strong economy, they attack the economy. They say they
want us manufacturing, they kill manufacturing jobs. They do all

(01:52:17):
these things, and you're like, well, what do they really need?
What do they really want? What they really want is
a white supremacist, christo fascist ethno state.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
They don't want the United States to be questioned. They
don't want the concept of the United States to be questioned.
And the idea of even of even acknowledging the pain
of the past is a way of is a way
of saying that America is imperfect. Well, and these people.

Speaker 1 (01:52:44):
Their vision of America because they don't they don't want
they they want to see an America where the three
of us having this conversation are included at all.

Speaker 2 (01:52:56):
Yep, and and and if we are included.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
We're in included as property or as collateral or whatever, subservient,
second class, pick your word.

Speaker 2 (01:53:08):
I mean, look at I mean, look at what they're
doing that. They did that. They're doing the same thing
with the trans people. They took they took the word
transgender out of the stone Wall monument.

Speaker 1 (01:53:16):
Right, they want that not to happen. They don't, they don't.

Speaker 2 (01:53:20):
It's not I'll just if you like, if it's not there,
it'll just go away.

Speaker 1 (01:53:24):
Yeah, well and if it's not there long enough, it
will go away. And that is kind of where they're
going with this of trying to destroy, you know, and
so like this is, like I said, this is a playbook.
One of the key things that fascists do is they
burn the fucking books. And I don't see a lick
of difference between burning the fucking books and censoring the

(01:53:45):
uh plaques at Stonewall or Harper's Fairy. That is that
is the problem. So we are down the just added.
You know, if you've got your little checklist right here,
you're sitting there and you're like, all right, let's see
which fascist thing have we done now? Okay, yeap, burn
the books. That's good. We've we've gone after the immigrants.

(01:54:06):
Let's see, we're attacking the media. Anybody that questions us
gets deported to Uganda. Yet got that? I mean, it's
like literally the list, and you do have to wonder, well,
how far down do we go before we're out of
the list? You know, where where are we at? Where?

(01:54:27):
How many more checkboxes do we have to go before
we're just in the fascist Uh.

Speaker 6 (01:54:33):
Take out the homeless, you know, kill off the elderly people.

Speaker 1 (01:54:38):
Injections, That's that's perfectly okay to say. You just can't
say anything about Charlie Kirk. It's okay to cheer about
George Floyd being murdered or Trayvon Martin or any of
those people.

Speaker 10 (01:54:51):
But it's all about debate.

Speaker 2 (01:54:52):
It's all about healthy debate on kims, bring open and
honest debate. I do want to saying vile shit that's
on the same level as Zan Culter, right.

Speaker 1 (01:55:03):
I do want to say that we are at a
very precarious point and there are several groups of people
who are i would say, within the range of marginalized
historically in this country, who have decided they are not
going to take any more of this shit and to
get along to get along. Thing is over and it's

(01:55:25):
only going to be a matter of time. And whether
one side or the other is the first one to
light the fuse, I don't know, it doesn't really matter,
but the reaction is going to be there, and it's
just gonna happen. People will only take being picked on
and attacked and marginalized, crushed, oppressed, pick your word for
so long before they just go, fuck this shit. And

(01:55:48):
the most magerous person in the world is somebody who
doesn't have anything left to lose. So if you keep
taking things away from people, they will get to that point.

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
And you know, if you if you keep to humanizing them,
if you keep to humanizing them and treating life, treating
like animals, they're gonna act like fucking animals.

Speaker 1 (01:56:09):
Yeah. And if you take away everything to the point
where they don't have anything left to hold deer or protect. Man,
I mean, don't be shocked. Don't be shocked when it happens.
I'm just saying, you know, right.

Speaker 2 (01:56:25):
Well, yeah, I mean, it's it's like I had the
same thought when the United Healthcare CEO got got shot
in the back. Guy said to myself, I'm surprised it
took this long for something like this to happen.

Speaker 1 (01:56:35):
Yeah, I mean you do have to wonder about that
speeding a witch. Like let's let's jump over to Nepal.
We're the only show that's apparently covering this or thinking
about this, but a country. Yeah right, Well we have
a globe, so we we had last week. We remember
to get this globe and to show everybody that I

(01:56:55):
still don't know how to do this. Okay, that's Nepal,
the little green one there.

Speaker 2 (01:57:00):
It's where man Everest is.

Speaker 1 (01:57:01):
Yeah, and a bunch of other tall mountains. So Nepal
has been in the midst of a crisis because again
you have poor folks who have nothing left to lose,
who feel backed into a corner and then shit on
by the elites in their country who are treating them
as second class citizens. And they were like, we've had
enough of this shit, and they burned the fucking parliament

(01:57:23):
to the ground. Don't fuck with Facebook, yeah, and uh right,
don't post your your Louis Vuitton Christmas trees on Facebook
and tell everybody that you're great or something. So you know,
the question was like, okay, who's leading this thing? Well,
they didn't really have like a leader. The military came
in and sort of put things like, all right, guys, cool,

(01:57:46):
it picked y'all somebody to run this shit. Well, they
finally found somebody to run this shit. Her name is
a Shushila Carti and she was a former Chief Justice
of their Supreme Court cheech justice maybe or just one
of the justices of their Supreme Court. But she has

(01:58:06):
been sworn in as the new prime minister for the
time being. She's seventy three years old. She was hastily
sworn in under heavy security as the country of almost
thirty million people said thirty or eighty no, thirty people
remains under strict military curfew following the deadly press. This's
thirty million people. That's not a small place. There's a

(01:58:27):
US ambassador there, if you can believe it or not.
His his name is Dean Thompson. I don't think that
anybody Trump sends anywhere right now is who you want
leading in any of these kind of crises. But you know,
this was a youth movement. They've found a very old
person to be their caretaker government. That's very similar to
what we saw in Bangladesh, where they had another youth

(01:58:48):
movement they found a very old economist, Nobel Laureate to
run the show there. The youth vote here in America
seems to be very enamorate with Bernie Sanders. I don't
know exactly what to make of all of that, but
it is sort of strange thing. And yeah, she was
the chief justice there. She was sworn in as chief
Justice in Nepal in twenty sixteen, and she's got a

(01:59:12):
tough road to hoe, I gotta say, dealing with a
country of thirty million people that's in chaos.

Speaker 2 (01:59:19):
India's over an important point there she has called the
country will be holding elections in March.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
Yes, so, and the idea here was that they wanted
to have elections, that they were only going to point
a caretaker government. But that is also true of what
happened in Bangladesh. And they still did not get around
to having the elections yet, not because the government is
trying to hold onto power, but because they are having
trouble organizing such a thing, because that's a hard thing
to do in a country with that many people. So,

(01:59:47):
and we're talking about a place where people are very
very poor, where things are very very remote. There isn't
good communication or transportation or an easy way to sort
of organize them.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
Like Alaska on steroids.

Speaker 1 (01:59:59):
Yeah, and the folks in India there, you know, they
they've made some comments and saying, you know, we'll help out.
We're also democracy, we're close by. We share a lot.
In comment, I'm not sure how much of trust Moody
to do anything democratic these days. But uh, you know,
tough part of the world. People should be paying attention.

(02:00:22):
Americans don't pay attention. That's problem. But that would require education,
and that's what we don't do in this country.

Speaker 2 (02:00:30):
You know, it's interesting between what's going on here and
what has happened recently with South Korea and with Brazil.
It's interesting that we're seeing these things about how to
handle it when about how to handle the aftermath of
when people do when people do terrible things. And I
feel like it's something that the United States we shouldn't

(02:00:51):
be just paying attention to it because you know, we
are a part of the world. As fri on Futurama said,
we're a part of the world. Wow, things have changed.
But but you know, like sou South Korea has had
has impeached several presidents, they've several have gone to jail.

(02:01:12):
Balsonaro has been convicted by the by the High Court
in Brazil UH for staging a coup and images that
were very similar to January sixth Uh. You know, I
think I think we need to be paying attention on
how to handle these things once, you know, if we

(02:01:33):
get beyond the really bad stuff, and.

Speaker 1 (02:01:36):
Also paying attention to where holding power to account is
not real, you know, like Pakistan, where as a matter
of course, when you gain power, the first order of
business is prosecuting your predecessor. That's not a that's not
a real way to hold corruption to account or to

(02:01:58):
to deal with uh extra judicial activities, whether it's from
your predecessor or otherwise. We also want to you know,
cautionary tales of like dealing with coups in the backsliding
that can happen if you're looking at Burma, or if
you're looking at Hungary, which will bring up again, or
if you're looking at any of those places where you

(02:02:18):
know there's been a government gets knocked over. The new
guys are just as bad as the old guys. You
know it, You got to watch it. I think Brazil
is a good one to be paying attention to I
think it's possible we learn something important here in Nepal.
I think it's possible we learned something important in Bangladesh
about real democracy, little small d democracy. South Korea, you know,

(02:02:42):
they're still kind of going through that that they've arrested, impeached, tried, appealed,
maybe convicted, maybe not convicted. They couldn't get the votes through.
There was people eating resolutions from the desks of stuff.
I mean, it's there's weird things with all of that.
But yeah, we are a part of the world. But

(02:03:02):
also we should be paying attention for lessons learned. Speaking
of people who do not seem to learn lessons, let's
look at Cash Pattel. Now, there are a lot of
things I dislike about Cash Patel, but there is something
in particular about Cash Patel that I found out this
week and makes me hate him more. I don't know

(02:03:25):
if this image can show it, but this tie, this
is a red and white tie. It's not quite that
red and white.

Speaker 2 (02:03:31):
See there in the middle LFC. Is that for the
London Philly Fannies Club or something.

Speaker 1 (02:03:39):
Like that, Yeah, something like that. He's a fucking Liverpool fan.
And there's a lot of things I don't like in
the world. Republicans are high on that list, but much
higher on that list is Ohio and Liverpool and Dallas
fuck them and the But like, oh my god, I

(02:04:03):
didn't need a reason to hate Cash Paatel. I already
hated Cash Pattel. Now I got a legit reason. And
the Darby is Saturday, so if we win, If Everton
wins and Liverpool loses, I want to rub it in
his stupid face. The only problem is I can't tell
which I to focus on, so we will actually see.

Speaker 2 (02:04:27):
I was when I was in England two years ago
and one of the things that I did while I
was in London was I took my mom to a
Premier League game and it was west Ham versus Liverpool
and wow and yeah, even though there was just one
section for all the Liverpool fans because it was at
west Ham Stadium, it was God. They were obnoxious.

Speaker 1 (02:04:53):
Yeah, they're the worst kind of people.

Speaker 2 (02:04:56):
Yeah, it was. They just would not shut up with
the they were It was like it was like an opera.
They just kept going with the musical chants and everything.
They didn't take a moment to rest.

Speaker 1 (02:05:08):
Well, and they have the worst song. They have the
you Never Walk Alone. Dumb song, which I think is
from a musical, but they sing it because Gary and
the Pacemakers did a version of it and they're from Liverpool.

Speaker 2 (02:05:22):
But I don't know. West Ham has I Forever Blowing Bubbles, So.

Speaker 1 (02:05:25):
You know, I mean that's I mean, look, everybody's got songs.
We do not have songs. Everton does not have.

Speaker 2 (02:05:31):
We have songs because there's nothing like being in a
stadium with like sixty thousand people singing, you know, Forever
Blowing Bubbles or something like that. That's a really that's
a magical experience.

Speaker 1 (02:05:42):
Okay, well, so like the Washington football team, we have
a song.

Speaker 2 (02:05:45):
Well, right, you got haled it, you got hailed the team.

Speaker 1 (02:05:47):
Yeah, okay, so like when you score a touchdown when
things were good, back in the old days, when we
would score a touchdown and the band, an actual band
would play hail to the insert your word here, and
the whole stadium sings along and everybody knows the words,
and that you know, RFK was bouncing like that. That's
a feeling. It feels pretty freaking good, right when one

(02:06:12):
hundred and twenty one thousand people in the Big House
are singing mister Bright's eide like that's that feels pretty good,
you know, but just fucking Liverpool. And also it turns out,
after doing a bit of looking into this that most
of the people in Liverpool's history big lefties, not fans

(02:06:34):
of the right wing. Specifically, former coach who just just left,
Jurgen Klopp, who's German, famously said that there's one thing
that he would never do. He would never vote for
the right and you know, so that's pretty good. There's
also this weird thing about like you're not supposed to
wear sports ties to like congressional testimony, your weirdo. Even

(02:06:59):
I wouldn't do that. I did wear my Michigan blazer today,
but it was on the inside of the blazer, so
like you'd have to, you know, and it just, you know,
it doesn't fit. Cash tells a loser and a dummy.
And I hope your trips on his tie, I do.

(02:07:19):
I just I just feel like that would be the
best thing that could happen to that guy. So all right,
you want to play a game, Sure, Okay, we're gonna
play a new game. It's sort of like Florida or not.
But this is this is a new version of it.
This is called which of these things happened in Florida? Okay,

(02:07:42):
I've got two news stories which you can't see, but
that I can see, and I'm going to read them
to you, and you have to tell me which of
the two or both of the two, or whatever you think,
which of these happened in Florida and show your work
you ready?

Speaker 2 (02:08:00):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (02:08:01):
Okay. A woman taking her dog for a walk near
a creek ended up punching an alligator in the face
to rescue the canine from the predator's jaws. Lando Lake's resident,
Danny White, said she and her four month old Shitsu
Dacks what a name, were walking along a stagnant creek
behind her house when the five foot gator struck. I

(02:08:22):
turned and looked, and an alligator had him, she told
The New York Times. The alligator's front teeth were through
the collar of my dog. The alligator started dragging Dacks
into the water, leading right to fight back. It just
punched him, punched and punched, she told the TV station.
I punched him in the eye enough that he kind

(02:08:43):
of let go. He unclamped a little and I pulled off,
but his teeth dragged down my arm on it. Yeah, right,
was able to flip the alligator onto its back, allowing
her and decks to flee inside the house. She recorded
video of the gator lurking behind her home after the attack.
The gator was move from the property by Fishing Wildlife,

(02:09:03):
and she urged other pet owners to be cautious in
the areas where gators can easily camouflage. Okay, so that's
the first story. Here's the second story. The cloud of
smoke from two pounds of methamphetamine seized by the FBI
and incinerated inside an animal shelter sent its workers to
the hospital, according to city officials. Yeah, the smoke started

(02:09:29):
to fill the building during a drug burn on Wednesday,
apparently because of the negative pressure that sucked it back inside.
Assistant city Administrator Kevin Iflin said Friday a fan was
supposed to be on hand in such situations to reverse
the pressure so smoke would flow out of the building,
but he said it wasn't readily available. The incinerator is

(02:09:50):
used primarily to burn carcasses of animals euthanized or collected
by the city's animal control divisions.

Speaker 2 (02:09:56):
Yeah, it's like it's like a crematorium.

Speaker 1 (02:09:59):
Sure, a couple of months, local law enforcement or FBI
agents use it to burn season narcotics. If Lynn said
fourteen workers from the nonprofit Animal shelter evacuated and went
to the hospital. The shelters seventy five dogs and cats
were relocated or put up in foster homes.

Speaker 2 (02:10:16):
Those cats and dogs were fucked.

Speaker 1 (02:10:19):
Yeah, so were the people. The shelter shares space with
the Animal Control Division. When smoke started filling parts of
the building, uh, they assumed it was from the burning carcasses.
Because the director said she had just never known about
the drug burd So they're in the same building, but
she never knew that the cops were using her incinerator

(02:10:41):
to burn drugs.

Speaker 2 (02:10:42):
The cops are in the same building as the animal The.

Speaker 1 (02:10:44):
Animal control folks are in the same building, and I
guess they, you know, are friends with the cops and
the like.

Speaker 2 (02:10:51):
Yeah, you could just drop that you just dropped that
shit over there.

Speaker 1 (02:10:54):
Yeah, we'll throw it in the incinerator. Will be fine.
The director said she had a very intense headache and
a sore throat, and others had dizzyness, sweating and coughing.
No kidding, not a party She said the workers found
out that it was methanphetamine smoke threw a call from
a city official while they were in the hospital. Most
of the staff spend hours on oxygen and in chambers

(02:11:17):
for treatment. Symptoms have lingered for some workers. They are
also closely monitoring four litters of kittens that got more
heavily exposed because they were in a closed room with
lots of the smoke.

Speaker 4 (02:11:31):
Oh, the FBI.

Speaker 1 (02:11:33):
Routinely uses outside facilities to conduct control drug evidence burn
burns agencysperson Sondra Barker said, and she referred other questions
to city officials. Okay, which of these two things happened
in Florida.

Speaker 2 (02:11:50):
I have several different mindsets here because the first one
with the gators sounds like but I kind of feel
like that might be put in there. I feel like
I'm taking a test to get in HEISTO. Yeah, I
feel like that might be in there as like a
red herring, like to make me think like, Okay, But
for some reason, I'm thinking that the Mets story could

(02:12:14):
very well be New Mexico, even though that sounds like
something that would very much happen in Florida. But I'm
actually gonna go down a third road here. I'm gonna
guess that they're both Florida. Ah.

Speaker 1 (02:12:25):
This is a good guess, but it is incorrect. Ah.
So the gator, I successfully, I thought you would think
that that was a little too on the nose. That
was actually in Florida.

Speaker 2 (02:12:36):
Of course, that was Florida. The woman looked very Florida.

Speaker 1 (02:12:40):
She looked pretty Florida. The animal shelter was in Billings, Montana.

Speaker 2 (02:12:44):
Oh, okay, not very far.

Speaker 1 (02:12:47):
Well, I mean it's like the New Mexico of the north.

Speaker 2 (02:12:50):
It's I guess it's big. I guess they call it
Big Sky Country for a reason.

Speaker 1 (02:12:54):
Yeah, it's it's a state that's mostly square shaped that
borders a foreign country. And uh, you know, the people
out there are a little suspects. So I feel like
New Mexico and Montana are basically the same. And uh,
you know, what do you mean there's a New Mexico.

Speaker 2 (02:13:12):
Well, I read a musical about the common Cat or
the Kingdom Siam.

Speaker 1 (02:13:15):
Yeah right, oh my god. What also, I don't know
if you sawry my shirt.

Speaker 2 (02:13:22):
I saw your shirt. I saw your shirt.

Speaker 1 (02:13:24):
It's my isotopes. We wore that for curing. Okay, so yes, congratulations,
you did not win, which is Florida. But that's okay.
Who do you got winning the game against the Raiders
this week, Charlie, Are we gonna win or nine?

Speaker 2 (02:13:41):
I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Man. It's really it's it's
really tough, like what are the Raiders? Are they going too? Right?

Speaker 1 (02:13:46):
Now? They are? But I I think that I say
we sit Jayden and let Mariotta play because you know,
it's just Oakland and we should be able to beat
them with Vegas. It's Vegas now whatever. I'm not learning
these other loser city who gives a shit? Yeah, who cares?
I think we can beat him with Marcus Marriotta, and

(02:14:07):
I think that's probably the safe move. I do not
want to see RG three repeated, so that that's my
choice there.

Speaker 2 (02:14:12):
Well, I don't think Archie three will be repeated because
because Daniels knows when to.

Speaker 1 (02:14:17):
Slide, well yeah, but three, yeah, but he's if he's
hurt and he wants to be out there competing, that's
the problem.

Speaker 2 (02:14:25):
So that is, yes, yes, we.

Speaker 1 (02:14:27):
Need to do the right thing and sit him. That's
what I say. All right, we want to say thank
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