New wars, old wars, and Meth Coons

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Speaker 1 (00:30):
Tom Tom.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
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Speaker 3 (01:19):
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Speaker 4 (01:22):
You just told them.

Speaker 3 (01:24):
Happy Thursday and uh last I checked capture up two
to one.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
Oh good, I have not checked, so we go. It's
good to hear go. Could you get one here and
head to uh Carolina? Yeah, the different that first that
first game, they came out of the gate just a
lot stronger than our previous opponent, which makes sense because
they are.

Speaker 3 (01:50):
We forgot to shoot the puck in the first game. Yeah,
it was. It was a lot of like, oh, what
do we do with this thing?

Speaker 5 (01:57):
But this game we learned.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
We're like, oh, the reason they one is because they
shot at the goal, so we're like we should try
that and then it's working.

Speaker 4 (02:06):
So speaking, I lucked up and they made a hundred
of these special edition uh stitch fanatics and my good
friend Ducky down at Major and made these uh these
hoodies for Alex Ovechkin and I was lucky enough to
get one of these, and no, I didn't get any
hookup on these.

Speaker 6 (02:24):
I went to where I knew.

Speaker 4 (02:26):
No, none of my people would have checked NHL shop
dot com.

Speaker 3 (02:32):
Yeah, if you knew anybody there, you're you're you're really
sitting pready there.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
Yeah, No, I did not know anybody. I locked up
and got one of the eight double Excels they made,
So there you go. Bands will make them dance.

Speaker 3 (02:45):
I think, uh, I think hockey fans, there's a lot
more double Excels than you think.

Speaker 4 (02:51):
Yeah, well, yes, there's definitely a lot more of those
that I would say than than smaller size.

Speaker 6 (02:57):
They only made eight out of one hundred run.

Speaker 4 (02:59):
Though, right yeah, also to best playoffs in sports, right.

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Oh yeah, Well, it's certainly like the highest energy, most exciting.

Speaker 5 (03:09):
It's it's like.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
Then in front of it. I don't know what you
put in front of it.

Speaker 3 (03:16):
Some sometimes the NBA, but they haven't they haven't been lately.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
This I think this last week has been more than
the whole of the NBA.

Speaker 3 (03:28):
But yeah, yeah, I think since since the three pointer
became the dominant type of scoring in basketball, the excitement
level in the playoffs is very different. Like it's a
lot of you know, astronomical shots and like that kind

(03:49):
of thing, but the but the sheer excitement of like
the running gun alie oop or you know, like working
it down and jamming it in somebody's face. That's kind
of washed out, so you know, it's gone. It's that's
not how the game is played anymore. So I think
that's a little less exciting. But maybe I'm a product.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Of my era. I don't know.

Speaker 3 (04:09):
But anyway, this show is a special edition because yeah,
well we have we have a new war starting.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
It's like nobody is talking about. That's not it's definitely
not breaking through as the way it should break down.

Speaker 5 (04:25):
It probably should be the top of.

Speaker 4 (04:27):
The news to anyways.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
And then we've got the current wars that are already ongoing,
and we've got an old war, and then we've got
whatever it is that our FK's worm is up to
these days.

Speaker 6 (04:41):
War on health, that's.

Speaker 3 (04:44):
On humanity, I think is the best. Somebody said the
other day. I heard somebody say like, why would our
FK want to cut access to narcan? And I was like, oh,
because he's trying to kill people. And they were like, well,
they didn't have an.

Speaker 5 (05:00):
Answer for that. They didn't say like, no, we couldn't.

Speaker 3 (05:04):
I was like, yeah, no, this is this is going
to kill people because it's it's it's unkilling people. And
now they're not going to have it. And so now
they're those people who are people are going to die
and they're like that's that's awful. And they said are
you sure? And I was like, what other reason on
God's green earth could it be? I mean, I don't

(05:26):
even know where they give you answer. Yeah, I'm not
even sure. I was like making money at it or something.
There's no like I ask conspiracy to this. It's just
if he wants to kill off certain groups of people
I think of which he is one, I would add,
So hooray, Okay. So yeah, Also the smoke was white,

(05:48):
not orange, which is good.

Speaker 1 (05:50):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (05:50):
So we have we have a new pope. He's he's
a special kind of pope. Do you know what kind
of pope he is.

Speaker 3 (05:56):
He's a deep dish pope.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Oh my god, Someone some yes, because he's from Chicago
and I'm meeting today. Someone to put that in there,
I said, the deep dish. That's when they have the
holy water.

Speaker 3 (06:07):
Well, now, so the Internet has decided that the communion.
Wait first, you are now going to be deep dish
and uh, instead of the wine, it's going to be
mallord because you.

Speaker 6 (06:16):
Know, oh my gosh, Chicago homicide is what I call that.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (06:22):
I one of my good buddies. He for his birthday
one time. He runs a bar and I was sitting
at the bar and he was telling people about he said, yeah,
this is People would ask what it is and he
was calling American repisode and I would sit there and
watch people not paying any attention to how foolish that

(06:44):
is drink the milord And oh god.

Speaker 6 (06:48):
I just watched so many faces.

Speaker 4 (06:50):
And I trust me anytime anytime i'm it's snuck, because
usually I don't. I'm not never asked what people sneak
at drink towards to me. And anytime I have it,
immediately like shook one starts playing in my yeah, and
I just want to fight. Is the worst drink on earth.

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Malort has an interesting lore in like curling. Uh real, Yeah,
there's a big thing about about curlers in Malort, and uh,
Chicago has a lot of curlers. You know, it's to
think and like you know, sort of the Upper Midwest
in general. So yeah, curlers love to shoot Malort and

(07:34):
or challenge each other to shoot it and I I
have experienced it dustly, and uh, I hated it. It's
not even one of these things where like I'm gonna
lie and say that, oh no, it's not that bad.
I hated it. It's awful, the worst thing I've ever had.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
Yeah, And and like.

Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know, another big thing in curling that's an awful
drink is dram Booie.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
Uh.

Speaker 6 (07:59):
If you've heard of his name, I've never heard.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 5 (08:03):
It's a like licorice liqueur thing herbal dig This.

Speaker 4 (08:10):
From Kimberly anams on making me smart. Actually she is
the one. The first time I've heard about this.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Yeah, right, well that makes sense because that's where you
get all your information. But it's it's, uh, if you
are curling on Sunday, meaning you're in the finals. If
you're in the finals, you everybody goes out on the
ice and the piper, it's a person with bagpipes pipes
you out onto the ice and you and you all
sort of march onto the ice and then you're everybody's

(08:37):
given a shot of dram Booi and the organizer of
the Bondspiel gives like a little speech like, you know,
thank you to everybody for coming out and whatever, and
then you all toast to the piper and have to
shoot the dram booey and it is gross. No, this
is dram Bowie. It's not. It's worse then, Oh yeah,
it's I mean it's a similar kind of like dad, Yeah,

(09:04):
it's not my lord's worse. Okay, for sure, I would.
I would drink several gallons of Drambui before I had
to drink anymore my lord.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
But if they're neither of them.

Speaker 4 (09:17):
Good upset the whole beginning of the show talking about this.

Speaker 3 (09:22):
It's fine. We have a new pope. His name is Leo,
and you know, he's Leo from Chicago. Like, who doesn't
love Leo from Chicago. Yeah, they're mad already. They don't
even know this guy. And they're mad because he's from
Chicago and speak Spanish and.

Speaker 4 (09:38):
They're like, what the fuck is that?

Speaker 5 (09:41):
Why does he speak American?

Speaker 4 (09:44):
I didn't even do any research on this pope. And
as soon as I was an American, I was like
I was at the Catholic Church has moved to the right,
but maybe not.

Speaker 3 (09:51):
No, he's uh left Augustine and he's uh He's apparently
was like Frankie's best friend and like, uh secret confidant
or whatever. So maybe it's just like Frankie two point zero.
I guess I know that's the hope for a lot
of people. I'm not I'm not like a pope expert either.

(10:16):
I had to I had to look it up several
times today. Apparently that seagull cannot become pope, even though
it was definitely mostly the thing that we were all
watching was that one seagull that was just like hanging
out by that chimney. He kept be he was the
most famous bird in the world. Yeah, for a good while.
I think maybe he's working with the penguins to like

(10:38):
strike back for the tariffs. But that's we don't know yet.
I mean, I'm not saying, but you know, it could be,
could be anyway. Uh yeah, Trump said he's got a
huge announcement, and then he made like a dumb announcement,
So we don't know what the huge announcement is.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
So maybe he's just see now not maybe and just
talking about the draft announcement and he just forgot.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Maybe maybe we have a list of things that we think,
uh could be.

Speaker 4 (11:08):
My poor mayor looking like a hostage during that situation.
Oh my god, my poor mayor. Well, and I never
said my poor She's definitely not my poor mayor. Sorry,
but but.

Speaker 5 (11:19):
Yeah, you're unfortunate, mayor.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
Fortunate. Yes, hey, keep going strong for he seems he
seems to like you right now. I don't know, So
let's ride this.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Way the for the draft. But like, we don't like
each other in real.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
But this is a yeah, but you know, enough capitulation,
right I thought it? Look Home rule, Black Lives Matter plaza. Yeah, yeah, sorry,
Home rule plaza right now? Sorry, progressive figure that out later. Yes, sorry,

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it is.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
It is a dumb thing to have to give up.
But if it saves Home rule, it's worth it.

Speaker 4 (12:04):
Yeah. Sorry, I didn't make I didn't make this happen.
Who's gonna deal with it somehow?

Speaker 3 (12:10):
So yeah, yeah, it's there's a time to make a stand.
And that wasn't it? All right? Speaking of which, Germany
got their shies it together, which I learned.

Speaker 5 (12:22):
You need to use that weird little sb.

Speaker 6 (12:27):
The what as me?

Speaker 3 (12:30):
Maybe I don't know, but you need that weird little
squig in your Yeah, that's how you spell that word.
I didn't know, I spent like an hour and a
half trying to get Google to tell me how to
spell this word, and uh, eventually it got close enough
that it was like do you mean this? And I
was like sure. Then I had to copy and paste

(12:51):
it because I don't.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Know how to take that's got a hold. That's like
a contract command to get that thing out. Yeah, yeah,
the codami code just exactly.

Speaker 3 (13:02):
But anyway, so Jeremy finally got their shyesy together, and
this week we came up with yet another reason to
avoid Newark insane.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
I was gonna say, I I know someone who was enduring.

Speaker 4 (13:13):
The time of that, like, oh, it's ongoing, but last week,
like last week, you have.

Speaker 5 (13:20):
To go through Newark all the time, don't you.

Speaker 4 (13:22):
Well, I know I've never go and the only time
on the yes it does there are sometimes it'll either
it'll stop in Newark most of the time.

Speaker 6 (13:32):
Yeah, most of the time it stops in New York.

Speaker 4 (13:33):
There's random times where I've missed it and ended up
straight at Metro Park, But most of the time, because
I alway look at the Prudential Center and I was like,
what did I use that for? And I forgot that
the the Devils are still there, that's right.

Speaker 6 (13:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
I looked at what does the stadium use for anymore?
For there, and I was like, I forgot you guys.

Speaker 3 (13:54):
That's uh Josh.

Speaker 6 (13:55):
Harrison set yeah actually does.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
So we we now have to be sort of okay
with the I don't know, I'm.

Speaker 4 (14:02):
Not sort of okay with the devils. Hu, I don't
I mean clipped that one. Sort of okay with the devils.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
Well for somebody who's not religious, but I mean like
I don't like them. But like bro Door was amazing,
you know, like you're never gonna see a goalkeeper, a
goalie like that who can like.

Speaker 6 (14:25):
They're not the penguins right like you?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah, that you know, or more penguins will talk about.

Speaker 3 (14:35):
Welcome to Penguin Chat.

Speaker 5 (14:38):
Look at these dead ass birds. All right.

Speaker 3 (14:43):
So anyway, now that we've totally derailed the first half
of the show, do you have a Do you have
a word?

Speaker 1 (14:51):
I have?

Speaker 3 (14:53):
You gotta think harder, I gonna work, Okay, I gotta
I got a word. So sit back, grab some chimneys.
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(15:51):
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Speaker 5 (15:55):
I'm your chip with me is kaz okay?

Speaker 3 (15:59):
So now before oh we do this next thing, hopefully
we've got a video clip. I just want to.

Speaker 5 (16:03):
Set this up for a brief second.

Speaker 3 (16:05):
Last week we talked about Canada had an election and
they elected Mark Carney or re elected Mark Carney to stay.
I guess they didn't elect him the first time. He
was disappointed, but anyway, he is now again still the
Prime Minister of Canadia. And traditionally the first foreign trip

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that a Canadian PM makes is to America, to the
United States, because we are bestest of friends and we
do everything together. And also traditionally like the first trip
that American presidents make is like you know this same thing, right,
like we're very coordinated. But this time, no, because the

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United States has been threatening to take over Canada, or
specifically Donald Trump has been threatening to take over Canada,
Carne didn't want to meet with him first. We went
to Europe first and he met with the Europeans and
so in like diplomatic world, this move is like your

(17:08):
girlfriend fucking your brother. It is. It is like the
most yeah, yeah, it's that right. I don't know how
else to describe it. But Trump has no fucking clue
how anything works, so he didn't even notice like this
thing happened. So instead, when Carney did come to visit him,

(17:29):
they had this very stupid meeting in the Oval office
where Trump told Carney that he really liked him, and
that also Carney owed Trump for his victory because of
how much everybody in Canada hated him hated Trump, and
then he was like, well, we're still gonna take you
over and Carney was like, no, We're not for sale.

Speaker 5 (17:48):
And Trump was like, well, I don't know about that.
Uh So in the middle of.

Speaker 3 (17:54):
This, Trump like says this weird dumb thing where he says,
I've got a big announcement to make and I don't
know if Brian, if you've got the video, let's see
if we can if we can play this.

Speaker 4 (18:11):
Joke, have the video.

Speaker 7 (18:16):
I'm sorry, so he goes, So he goes, yeah, I've
got this big announcement and it's gonna be really good.

Speaker 5 (18:23):
You're gonna love it.

Speaker 3 (18:24):
And he says, and I'm gonna announce it before I
leave to go to the Middle East on Friday.

Speaker 4 (18:29):
His favorite place, favorite place to go is his first visit.

Speaker 5 (18:33):
He always goes to which he has to go kiss
the ring.

Speaker 3 (18:38):
So so he goes, he goes, Yeah, I'm gonna have
this best, this this announcement. It's gonna be great. It's
very positive. He kept saying positive. And he goes, and
I'm gonna make it before I leave on Monday or
maybe Wednesday, or maybe Thursday or maybe Saturday. I don't know.
It's gonna be great. And then he didn't do anything.

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So we were left with like, well, what is this announcement?
Our crack reporting team has dug up various things that
we're pretty sure are part of the announcement, including the
first one, which Tedz gets to read.

Speaker 4 (19:16):
All right, the first one here, we're assuming what the
announcements is Jeanie Piro, who will be the new US
Attorney for the District of Columbia. That's true. That is
God's awful true.

Speaker 3 (19:28):
That was announced tonight. That's not the announcement he meant.
That's how fast the news is moving.

Speaker 5 (19:35):
That's true.

Speaker 4 (19:36):
I should be happy because it's not a January sixth.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Denier Nazi sympathizer.

Speaker 4 (19:43):
I guess, I don't know. I'm trying to. Yeah, but
I'm assuming she also believes this, but maybe hasn't been
his outfront about this.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
I think it's safe to say Jeanine Piro also supports
pardoning the January sixth, and I think it's also safe
to say that she is also a Nazi sympathizer.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
Sorry for calling Janine genie to all the genies out
there and lumpy with her.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
Yeah, also shout out to Cecily Strong, hurry up and
get off of maternity leave because SNL needs you.

Speaker 4 (20:19):
As a matter of I love it here we go
with rushing people off.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
Hey, look, let's focus. Okay, you can have kids any
old time.

Speaker 3 (20:30):
Her version of Pierro is one of those things where
like I don't know if I really know what Janine
Piro sounds like. I know what Cecily Strong being Jeanine
Piro sounds like. In the same way I don't know
what W sounds like. I just know what Will Ferrell
doing W sounds like. Uh So, anyway, okay, so that
was that was the first one that turned out to

(20:52):
be true. Okay. The next one we think that Trump
is gonna announce before he leaves on his big trip
is he's gonna come out of his tradegender. We don't
don't know which gender is transitioning to, but one of
them something something I heard he's transitioning from orange to lemon.

Speaker 4 (21:10):
Possible. Ah, that you know that, that's possible. That is
how citrus works, right, Lemon is created, right, this is.

Speaker 3 (21:20):
No lemons are real? I mean, yes, yeah, but you
can graft citrus onto each other. Yeah. Is it not
a sour orange? It is not a sour orange. There,
I don't know. I mean he makes a face like
he's a sour orange. All right, go ahead, continue on.

Speaker 4 (21:48):
As we're talking about birds that ass birds, penguin trade
wars ending, Yes, because there.

Speaker 5 (21:56):
It's possible. Trump capitulated.

Speaker 3 (21:59):
They were like, give us enough herring and we'll let
you off the hook this time.

Speaker 6 (22:04):
Hey, you can't really tax the penguins on the herring.

Speaker 3 (22:06):
Right, Uh, this is true. Also, the new Trump Bible
with all of the Jesus lines have been replaced with
the word Trump. And we do know this because after
the announcement was made, Trump did offer to sell the
new Pope genuine Trump Bible for fifty nine.

Speaker 4 (22:28):
Signed. Yeah, oh signed, okay, that's why. Yeah, it's signed.
Candle will be annexing the USA.

Speaker 5 (22:38):
Surprised. I would welcome that.

Speaker 6 (22:42):
No, just so we get back on our feet.

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Yeah, like caretaker.

Speaker 6 (22:47):
Yeah, you know that's actually gonna end up being the Chinese.

Speaker 4 (22:50):
But more to come.

Speaker 6 (22:51):
Foreshadowing loud all right.

Speaker 3 (22:55):
Uh, he's gonna reveal what brand of eyeliner jd Vance uses.

Speaker 5 (23:02):
Maybe he's jd Vance, Maybe it's Mabelin.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Maybe that's that's no, that's not true.

Speaker 3 (23:10):
Jd Vance, like any red buttered American, just wipes his
face with coal ash right, Cole.

Speaker 4 (23:19):
Oh, he might admit that Tiffany Trump is his daughter.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
Absolutely not, he would never admit to that. Also, maybe,
but showing on all right, let's see, Oh, he's gonna
come out as some percentage black. Uh, let's say, for
argument's sake, you know, I've always felt a little black.

Speaker 4 (23:49):
I'm just like you.

Speaker 3 (23:52):
I've been convicted.

Speaker 6 (23:53):
I've always loved the blacks to I've been one of them. Mhm.

Speaker 5 (24:00):
What percentage.

Speaker 3 (24:03):
Black does Trump need to turn out to be for
the black community to accept him?

Speaker 6 (24:10):
What percentage on the Yeah, I mean some.

Speaker 4 (24:13):
People are accepting already, but you know, obviously it's three
sifts a damn playing the hits play in the hits.
Oh my god, he's leaving the presidency to become pope.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
Yeah, he was teasing that announcement. He did tease it
with the with the AI.

Speaker 4 (24:34):
I mean, what if they take over, I mean take
over the dad him doesn' seems too crazy. Well, it's
only like six buildings, I mean, all right.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
He's the reaction of like the magnic Catholic faithful is like,
which is a funny sentence. They're they're like, we need
to split and get our own pope. They've had several
popes before we can do it again. And I'm like, oh,
good lord, what do you people are so doctrinally distant

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from the thing that you say you believe, it's even.

Speaker 5 (25:07):
Hard to imagine.

Speaker 6 (25:08):
Yeah, insane.

Speaker 3 (25:10):
All right, it's gonna turn out that Hillary was actually
emailing him that whole time, that that's what what was
on all those emails. They found them and they were
all between Trump and Hillary.

Speaker 5 (25:21):
Trump famously does not email, by the way, No.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
But he does pick up his cell phone if anybody calls.

Speaker 3 (25:26):
This apparently with anybody. If you've got his number, you've
got his attention, you can just call him.

Speaker 5 (25:34):
And he just picked it up.

Speaker 4 (25:38):
It's just drive his staff insane. Oh my god, is
that what you can do? Who's the boss?

Speaker 8 (25:47):
You think?

Speaker 3 (25:47):
Wait a minute, you think that's the thing that drives
his staff insane among the like one hundred other things.

Speaker 4 (25:54):
I know that that's a small fry, which he never got.
He this is the one, obviously, and I'm pretty sure
this is what's gonna happen.

Speaker 6 (26:07):
He's gonna announce it. He did lose the twenty twenty election.

Speaker 3 (26:11):
Correct, Yes, that would shock the world, and it would
be very positive.

Speaker 4 (26:16):
Yeah. I mean, you know, I don't even know why.
It almost interesting, dope not to pivot to that, to
be like I made the greatest comeback ever. Yeah, I
ramsack democracy. My people ran into the citadel and look
where I'm back. I would just ride that. At this point,
it'd be like, yeah, you idiots, look at you idiots.

Speaker 6 (26:39):
You picked me.

Speaker 3 (26:41):
Didn't even Muhammad Ali like lose his title and then
had to win it back, Like you know.

Speaker 5 (26:47):
That's the that's the ultimate story. It is always that.

Speaker 6 (26:51):
Yeah, that's what it is.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
All right, Well, those are the announcements that we expect.
If any of those do in fact come true, you'll
you'll hear about it first. Of course, on this show,
we're going to take a break. When we come back,
we're gonna have the international edition of the Rundown and
a bunch of other stuff. This one's a bit of
a doozy, so you might want to stay tuned and
dig a bunker. I was gonna say, oh gosh, yeah,

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we'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (27:18):
You're listening to chip chat on Beltwey Radio and beon.

Speaker 4 (27:39):
Turning the frogs Jery.

Speaker 5 (27:44):
You keep interrupting me.

Speaker 9 (27:48):
Back at the free throw my plate and a shot
wag o dog.

Speaker 6 (27:59):
My whibsite and lost with the.

Speaker 10 (28:00):
J Paul.

Speaker 11 (28:02):
God, what are they try to like that?

Speaker 12 (28:07):
Trouble like thatches a minute again, you'll get hit with
a face called year but I'm still fake call statement.

Speaker 13 (28:23):
When they can't read you like a book, they're gonna
try to attack what you stand off.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
I'm gonna take off even if a lad wrong, and
take everything can get my hands from.

Speaker 1 (28:31):
What they take.

Speaker 8 (28:38):
A minute again.

Speaker 13 (28:46):
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they were about being on ship. I hate when these
pictures be begging your boy with some cash and turn
around and say eat the witch. Get mad when niggas
doing for themselves because the parents is still you begin
Oh you mad your face plate fallow the leader after
you're on fire warm, I don't.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Know my dom.

Speaker 14 (29:03):
Please don't go said which warm down?

Speaker 3 (30:20):
All right, welcome back to chip Chat. You're on belt
Wait Radio and Beyond nine years Chip with me is Tez.
That was something Brian does things. Uh, all right, now
you've come to the part of show called the rundown.
This is where we tell you about some stuff that's

(30:42):
going on in the news. If we were professional news man,
it would sound something like this.

Speaker 15 (30:54):
Yeah, belt Wait Radio and Beyond in Washington, d C.
I'm Emmy nominated TV newsman and just bona fide sexual
beast Jay Scott Smith. And this is the part of
the show where I tell some stuff about the world.
Maybe not me, but somebody else is going to tell
some stuff about what's happening in the news.

Speaker 5 (31:09):
So, uh, what's going on in the news?

Speaker 4 (31:11):
Fellas?

Speaker 3 (31:12):
Thanks Jake, I was happy with Uh okay, So tas
you know about this place called Germany.

Speaker 4 (31:23):
Right, Yeah, there's the East and West right.

Speaker 5 (31:26):
Yeah, I think they're they're knit back together somehow.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
Bring down that wall.

Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah that one. So before I get to the actual
like story here, I do want to read this one
sentence in the middle of this article from the Washington
Post that I think is one of the most incredible
sentences you'll ever read, if you know anything about anything.

Speaker 4 (31:56):
Ready, I'm pretty sure, I almost I think I want
to guess the one that you're gonna read.

Speaker 5 (32:02):
What do you think is the first word of the
of the paragraph.

Speaker 4 (32:05):
I'm gonna give you the first word and the last word,
and I'm gonna put them together.

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Amid Ukraine. That's exactly right, all.

Speaker 4 (32:12):
Right, I thought? So anyways, continue.

Speaker 3 (32:14):
On amid serin global tensions, with ties between Europe and
the Trump administration fraying, and Russia's war in Ukraine entering
its fourth year. Here's the craziest sentence you've ever heard,
you ready, Yep, Germany's allies from Paris to Warsaw are
looking to Berlin to anchor a reimagined European security strategy

(32:38):
without the United States and to end the war in Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (32:43):
So there you have it. And like there's a lot
of things where you say, we are like the post
like World War two agreement that we had, like the
world has had for the most part and most of
the Allies have had. But I think that's there is
one of the most definite statements that this is different.

Speaker 3 (33:05):
The American century is very clearly over in that sentence right.

Speaker 6 (33:09):
There, clearly it's over with.

Speaker 4 (33:13):
Yeah. That that just wraps it up right there. That
is the one that will for me. When I was
looking at that, I was like, oh, yeah, that's done.

Speaker 5 (33:20):
What an incredible set of words to put together.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Imagine, I just like, who do you read Who do
I want to read that to? And like like history.

Speaker 4 (33:30):
Past, Like do you read that to like FDR And
he's like what or like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Like
there's a lot should w boys, what do you mean?

Speaker 8 (33:43):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (33:44):
Well yeah, I mean just go back to like nineteen
forty two and read that sentence. It would it would
break everybody, everybody you talk to, It would break their head. Yeah,
for anybody who is has forgotten or is made, I
don't know. In the Trump administration, Germany invaded Poland and France,

(34:07):
and today, the eighth of May is v E Day.
Today is the day that Germany surrendered to the Allies
and we declared the end of the war in Europe,
in which the United States defeated what Trump calls very
fine people so confusing. But why are we talking about Germany?

(34:33):
What just happened in Germany?

Speaker 4 (34:35):
They finally, right, they finally were able to put together
a government.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
Right, right, So Germany's a parliamentary system, not unlike Tez's
a beloved home of Britain, but.

Speaker 5 (34:48):
Or Canada for that matter.

Speaker 3 (34:50):
And so in a parliamentary system, right, the party that
has the majority of seats in the Lower House or
in Commons or whatever you want to call it forms
a government and their party leader becomes the prime minister
or in Germany's case, they call it the chancellor of
that government. But sometimes, and now sort of more often

(35:13):
than you would have hoped or used to be, there
isn't a clear majority. There's like one party with most
of the votes or almost enough votes to have a majority,
and then they grab a few smaller parties to like
join their coalition to then put them over the top
of the line.

Speaker 6 (35:32):
Bbe is a good example of this. Yeah, right, But
you know.

Speaker 3 (35:36):
He's sitting in a coalition government. Maloney's sitting in a
coalition government in Italy. You know, it's not like super uncommon,
and it's you know, sometimes good, right, because it means
that the majority can't really steamroll things that they have
to check in with these smaller parties, and it gives

(35:58):
the small parties it's your opportunity to really help govern
and shape the way that things go. So Germany has
two big parties which have the same name basically, it's
very difficult to tell them apart. There's the Christian Democratic
Union and then there's the Social Democrats. I'm not quite

(36:23):
sure which one's a little bit right of center, which
one's a little bit left of center, but they're very center.
And whoever, whenever there's election, one of the two of
them is going to get most of the votes, and
then usually the other one is then in the loyal
opposition and whatever other small parties there are guam on

(36:44):
to whoever won and they form a government. In this case,
what happened was the two centrist parties one but they
got pretty close to the same amount of the vote,
which was like eighty some odd percent right and then

(37:04):
the AfD, which is the Nazis actual Nazis. I'm not
like hyperbolically saying that, I'm saying, like when the Nazis
were disbanded in Germany after the war, they formed a
new party called the Alternative for Deutschland AfD, and they
have been that ever since. And so they got twenty

(37:28):
percent of the vote, so one in five Germans, which.

Speaker 4 (37:32):
Isn't that is me though, right, that isn't something that
had happened like that amount.

Speaker 5 (37:37):
Right, that's exactly right.

Speaker 3 (37:39):
So generally the Germans had relegated anything associated with fascism
in the Nazis to like the absolute fringe of society
because they were and are understandably quite traumatized by the
fact that the Nazis fucked everything and they don't want

(37:59):
to do that again. Like it's in their constitution. It's
like Article one, line one, don't be a Nazi, Like
that's their first thing.

Speaker 4 (38:09):
We did that, We did that, we tried that.

Speaker 3 (38:11):
Yeah, they were like, this is not a good look
for us. We don't like being that. So but AfD
has twenty percent of the vote. So like the the
Social Democrats and Christian Democrats were like, we have to
form a government together to fend these guys off, right,
And this isn't.

Speaker 5 (38:31):
The first time they've done that.

Speaker 3 (38:33):
There's been a few other times where the two centrist
parties have had to form a what essentially amounts to
a unity government and uh and govern that way and
it mostly works out fine because the differences between them
are pretty minimal and.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
The Germans are notoriously into falling in.

Speaker 3 (38:52):
Line and they you know, we're gonna build nice little
boxes and you know everybody.

Speaker 5 (38:57):
Follows orders anyway.

Speaker 3 (39:02):
Uh, so they were gonna do that, right, And they
were like, yeah, we got this guy, Friedrich Mertz Meritz.
I think you have to say it like that, merits right,
Friedrich Meritz. Yeah, look at him, he looks like a Friedrich.
So poor Freddy here. They were like, all right, you're
gonna be the chancellor and he's like, all right, cool.

(39:23):
And so before they even make him chancellor, he's like
about to become chancellor. So they had like some votes
to like handle in parliament, right, and one of them
was to allow the German military to expand and spend
money that they don't really have to like actually take

(39:43):
on debt to expand, which.

Speaker 5 (39:45):
Is everything in post war German everything this.

Speaker 3 (39:50):
They never like to hold any debt, right they or
owe anybody anything. They are like famously averse to today
and they are by their constitution pacifist. They don't intervene.
They have a military. It's a good military, it's a
strong military, but it's small, it's volunteer, it is.

Speaker 5 (40:15):
Confined by their laws.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Well, Merritz shepherds through some big changes to that which
essentially allows the German government to spend an unlimited amount
of money whatever they deem necessary to expand their military
to do whatever they think needs to be done. And
all of this is happening in the shadow of the
fact that the Russians have invaded Ukraine and likely will

(40:39):
invade the rest of Europe. So I don't think they're
totally wrong for like thinking this way, But I gotta
say I personally, I'm not gonna speak for all of
the tribe here, but I don't feel great about an
unlimitedly large German military.

Speaker 5 (41:02):
It just feels risky.

Speaker 4 (41:06):
I mean, what do you what's rightfully? So I think,
you know, I have a lot of atrocities on their hands.
I think where it should worry you is there's a
need for them to make this change right based on
the deal that has been broken right with the United

(41:27):
States of America, right, or the America has broken that deal.
But then you couple that with that twenty of the AfD,
and there could become a time depending on what happens, right,
because anything happened that turned right.

Speaker 3 (41:43):
Down the path that I went down.

Speaker 4 (41:45):
Yeah, that's the piece there. I think though you do
the German citizens Again, I feel like the reason this
doesn't happen is the reason why things like that could
happen here is because I think Germans.

Speaker 6 (42:02):
You do a better job of teaching their history.

Speaker 4 (42:05):
And I do wonder if by doing that and being
as honest as they are about their history, if that
always will keep the public to never become a larger
amount of I guess a f D supporters, But I
don't know. You know, people get the tribalism can happen
really quickly, and well.

Speaker 5 (42:25):
They get bored, you know, I mean.

Speaker 4 (42:27):
But also too, I think Germany's open arms right of
immigrant populations from Syria or like any any picture country
fueling the rise of the exactly. And yeah it's and
then even with that, it's kind of like kudos to
Germany for doing that, because I think that comes under

(42:48):
mercle right, that's her thing as a mercle thing. But
it's like where no one else in Europe stepped up
to hope, like specifically my.

Speaker 6 (42:57):
My place of birth as well as other I mean
maybe mat CRONI.

Speaker 3 (43:01):
Well, the Germans. Yeah, Merkle beat everybody to the punch.
She's like she she's like, we'll take a million people first,
please right now? Which is the first million out? Are
all the best? So she got the best people, only
the best people.

Speaker 4 (43:16):
And there's Europe should have shouldered more of that. There
should have been more.

Speaker 16 (43:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:21):
Evering of the the exodus of these massive mass migrations
from the Middle East and North Africa has not gone
very well, but it portends what we're going to deal
with is the climate crisis increases, so you can stop that.

Speaker 16 (43:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (43:36):
But anyway, here's what what happened. So they so like
Merits is ride and high. Right, He's like, yeah, I'm
Chancellor designate. I've got the votes and uh and I
just shepherded this bill through and like, I'm ready to
be the leader of Europe. So they go to do
the formal vote where everybody's got a vote to make

(43:59):
him Prime Minister or Chancellor in this case, and he
falls short by six votes.

Speaker 6 (44:06):
Yeah, and I didn't know this is a secret ballot.

Speaker 7 (44:08):
It's a secret ballot, so don't know, like didn't do
their job.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Now they this was a crushing thing because this has
never happened in First War Germany. There's never been a
chancellor designated who didn't get the votes on the first ballot.
They did get it on the second ballot and got
their shit together or their shiza together.

Speaker 4 (44:31):
But it's better than us and the speaker.

Speaker 3 (44:35):
Yeah it took right. It wasn't dumb Kevin in his
fifteen rounds. But yeah, so it's all like sort of
settled now, and that's what we meant by like they
finally got their stuff together. But like there's this other
thing that they also right around the same time designated
AfD and extremist organization, which allows them under their constitution

(44:56):
to basically like surveil the af and to prehemptively take
away their stuff, ban them from things, raid their finances
and all of this. And the reason they have that
in their constitution because they don't want to become fucking Nazis. Again,
so like, if you do Nazi shit in Germany, the
government will come and like take all your stuff and

(45:18):
put you in a hole.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
And but think how But the one thing that even
worries me about this is that if it flips one day.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
That's the thing.

Speaker 17 (45:28):
Yeah, that's why massively expanded German military. It's all cool
and so yeah, okay, like I might, I might trust
Merits to not do anything stupid with that.

Speaker 4 (45:41):
But like if Alice Widel got in charge of it,
what would she do with it? Designate right them as
a extremist right on a different end, right, and.

Speaker 3 (45:58):
Yeah, well and then she would say me back to
camp and I'm not going back to so yeah, not great.
But they did get their ship together.

Speaker 4 (46:07):
No no, no, well Donald Trump would put you on a
plane and send you to the camp there.

Speaker 3 (46:12):
Well, we're going to get to that. So that's that's
the like chaos in Germany. Let's shift one continent over
to the middle of Asia.

Speaker 4 (46:26):
Oh what's happening there?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
The subcontinent South Asia as a matter of fact, Okay,
so we all know, yeah there's a South Asia. But
there's uh yeah, there's a little nucleus of conflict, yeah.

Speaker 5 (46:48):
Going on there.

Speaker 3 (46:50):
Okay, so Tues your people uh did something, did some colonizing, yeah, point,
and they went around the world, drawn lines, lumping people together, yeah,
stealing tea and spices that they then somehow forgot to

(47:12):
put in any of their food.

Speaker 4 (47:13):
Crazy, and the salt is the only one. They were like, ample,
it's the only one, so weird.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
You go all the way and conquer these people and
steal their spices.

Speaker 6 (47:25):
To not use them.

Speaker 3 (47:28):
So in their doing of that, they created two countries
where there used to be not any, called India and Pakistan.
And Pakistan doesn't even actually exist. There is no such
thing as like a Pakistani person is in fact an

(47:50):
acronym for three distinct regions Baluchistan, the Punjab, and like
whatever the A stands for.

Speaker 5 (48:00):
And they're you know.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
Mashed together in to this country that basically exists because
well they look like the rest of India, but they're Muslim,
so we don't know what to do with them.

Speaker 5 (48:12):
We're going to call it Pakistan and stick them in
a country.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
And yes, Rojo, that sounds like a smashing idea, you know,
it's just sort of that's exactly it, very Rhodesian British
way of doing things. So India and Pakistan do not
get along, have never gotten along. They were specifically set
up by the British with these lines to not ever

(48:38):
really get along because that would be too economically powerful
for Britain. To control. So they created a conflict and
they specifically center this conflict around this region, and the
Himalaya is called Kashmir, and both India and Pakistan claim Kashmir.

(48:58):
It is mostly populated by Muslim people. Some of these
people want to be their own country called Kashmir. Some
of these people want to be in Pakistan, and some
of these people want to be in India. And they're
not all conveniently on the sides of the lines where
the thing that they want to be is in charge.

Speaker 5 (49:21):
They're kind of all mixed up all over the place
and they like seem to shift around a lot. I
don't actually know.

Speaker 4 (49:28):
But.

Speaker 3 (49:30):
It's a pretty tense place, and they have periodic outbreaks
of violence where such and such group will attack some place,
and both India and Pakistan will accuse the other one
of basically putting that terrorist group up to it or
not doing a good job managing it. If you're looking

(49:53):
at this image here, this thing that you see on
the right with both countries flags, they have this incredibly
elaborate exchange that takes place at these gates in various
places every day, where the two opposing armies march at
each other and It is like a slow break dance battle.

(50:19):
And every day it happens. If people come out to
watch this, it's like exciting, right, and like we'll see
what moves they've got today, and so like you know
that the Indian guys will march around and do some
them like dances or whatever, and then the Pakistani guys
will come out. They'll do their dance and then the
crowd cheers and like the DJ awards the crown to
whoever knows. So like they're having a low level war

(50:43):
all the time. Back in the seventies they had a
big war, like thousands of people dead, but since then
it's been like in the few hundreds every now and
then at the most, but mostly in the like tens
of people getting killed. However, and I think I mapped
this out to being taking place in nineteen ninety seven.

(51:06):
Sounds about right. Let me tell you a story. I
was a freshman in high school. I was on the
crew team, right, that's where you row on the boat.
And we were in Pennsylvania for this very famous regatta,
which is what they call a boat race and called

(51:27):
Stoatesbury and it's in Philadelphia or around there. And it
was like you know, it's a big deal, right, And
I'm a freshman, this is my first year at Stoate's,
and I'm like, I'm super excited for this. And we're
there in the hotel and it's breakfast time, and we're
down eating breakfast and there's CNN on the TV. This

(51:48):
is the nineties, right, so CNN is the only twenty
four hour news. So if you're in a hotel or
an airport, it's one time, so on and so on
and right. There were two leading stories on the news
that day. One was that Frank Sinatra had died, Yes,

(52:10):
trask okay. And the other story was that both India
and Pakistan had declared themselves nuclear powers. And I remember
this very clearly because the thing that I remember is
saying to my friends, I think one of these two
stories is more important than the other one, and I

(52:32):
wish they would spend a little more time on that one.
And they said, old blue eyes, right, and they said
shut up, you're fifteen, And I said, okay.

Speaker 5 (52:47):
But I don't want to die in a mushroom cloud.

Speaker 3 (52:49):
So uh two light since yeah, right, So since then,
these two nuclear earned countries have built up quite the
stockpile of nuclear weapons, and they are all pointed almost
exclusively at each other. So there is a very good
reason not to kick off a big war between India

(53:14):
and Pakistan, like as big a reason as it is
to not kick off the big war between the United
States and Russia, or the United States and China or
any of the other like nuclear tipped stuff. And yeah,
so now we have a big war. Basically, some terrorists
did something. Nobody's really sure exactly who they might be

(53:36):
working for. Maybe themselves, it's not clear. But the Indians
were like, oh, yeah, Pakistan, you did that shit, and
they bomb them bam and they and they shot missiles
into Pakistan and they shot them.

Speaker 5 (53:50):
Deep into Pakistan.

Speaker 6 (53:52):
Not just like at the.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Border where they normally do where they have like little skirmishes. No,
they shot them all the way like over Karachi up
to all Pindi, which is where the army lives, and
like a bunch of stuff that's like a big deal,
into Lahore, like they shot at the big cities and
h Pakistani's were like, ah, no, man, that's not cool.

(54:13):
So they claim they shot down several Indian aircraft. There's
no word yet of like where the pilots of these
aircraft were they're French made? Were Follies maybe not sure,
not confirmed. Why it's a little murky, right. So then
the Indians then shot some big missiles into again, shot

(54:33):
some big missiles into Pakistan, and they're like, that's it,
We're done shooting. Everybody needs to like go home. Lessons
are learned all around, right, And the Pakistanis were like,
we don't think that's how that works.

Speaker 4 (54:49):
Yeah, you don't get the last lick. Yeah, yeah, we
don't like that, and uh, the is kind of crazy.
I forgot what the quote was. It was like one
of them was like your temporary I think it was Pakistan.
It's like something around like your temporary like joys. And
I was listening to it all something I was like,
oh god, that sounds insane, but basically like your temporary

(55:11):
joy for whatever you think is going on, it's.

Speaker 6 (55:13):
Gonna be endless hell going forward for you.

Speaker 3 (55:16):
I would like to point out that the language of
this conflict is kind of important. The Pakistanis responded. Their
defense minister came out and like gave a public response
in English, right, not in ur do not in other languages.
He did it in English because he wants the rest

(55:38):
of the world to be paying attention exactly. I would
also like to say that for the most part, the
vocabulary strength of the people making the announcements in this
conflict is miles better than what we tend to see

(56:00):
when American press conferences happened.

Speaker 4 (56:03):
This is like great orators and like literary studies that
are like dropping yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
They love to use like metaphor and just like a
little flourish in the language, whereas American like military press
conferences or political press conferences revolving around conflict or like uh,
you know, our planes struck the targets at this time,
we did this, that and the other, you know whatever,
Pete Hexth was texting basically, whereas the pakistanis here's an example.

Speaker 5 (56:33):
We are ready to pounce on the enemy's planes and
throw them into the sea, said the Prime minister. Mister
yeah to their parliament. The enemy knows about our capabilities.
He continued, appealing to the national unity like it's it's
I don't want to say beautiful, because it's not.

Speaker 4 (56:55):
It's a war, but like, but that's what that's the
difference though, because the idea is to rile up like
national pride on here. I don't think our military does
a great job of that, like to buy into it, right,
because also the whole I mean, I don't know the
laws of Pakistan and India, but I'm sure you have
to be it's not a volunteer military. It's all conscripted,

(57:16):
right exactly. So you got to kind of dry here.
I wouldn't you almost wonder why it's not done. I
guess it's done here in different ways with like the
NFL and shit like that. Yeah, drive, but there's never
like this great And also too, I got to think
about the audience too, So maybe maybe you shouldn't go.
If you start coming out talking like that for the
audience to who you want in the United States military,

(57:37):
then you're probably not gonna.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Get the actual people turn to the general's guaran.

Speaker 4 (57:40):
Yeah, right exactly. I think it's always interested in this
conflict as well too, because it's always going to be
the Pakistanis will always be seen as like the terrorists,
right because they are the Muslim country in this case here,
And if you look at the biggest democracy which is India,
you know, haha. And I also because I think about

(58:07):
Modi and right his rule over all, I don't even
know where at six years maybe with him seven years
six years he got reelected. Yeah, so probably six years
into him when they're beaten Muslim residents in Indian of
India in the street, like I can only imagine, like

(58:29):
in Pakistan, when like something like this happens, you.

Speaker 6 (58:33):
Your thought of what India is currently right now.

Speaker 4 (58:36):
It's never been good, but right now it's like you
could point to a lot of things that the Modi
regime has done and be very frustrated with your neighbor's
treatment of a majority of people who again are your folks, right,
that is a Muslim country. It's just very scary.

Speaker 3 (58:54):
There's certainly that aspect of it. Let's throw yet another
like piece of conflict on this, is that we're talking
about a part of India and a part of Pakistan
that is historically like one place right the own job area,
which is it? This separation has never there is no

(59:18):
historical divideline here at all, and so had the English
not drawn it this, there isn't the conflict here at all.

Speaker 5 (59:28):
Right, these and.

Speaker 3 (59:32):
Let's add yet another wrinkle up in this part of
of northern India, we also encounter the sick population. Uh
and Modi has as a Hindu nationalist.

Speaker 18 (59:46):
Has been targeting down as you know, somebody people in
other countries that killing uh sick activists in Canada and
attempting to do that here in the United States.

Speaker 3 (01:00:00):
Even they're they're not keen on either side in this fight,
but they are a large population, so there's that aspect
of it too. And like all of this is taking
place within the confines of the like oh yeah, their
nuclear arm and.

Speaker 4 (01:00:18):
And has had any involvement yet, I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:00:21):
Yeah, a little bit. So China and India are not friends.
Their their rivals, China and Pakistan are pretty close. So
the Chinese have done what they always do, which is say,
we don't like conflict, let's let cooler heads prevail and
hope everybody can just work this out. But they never
do anything to like help that. You want to add

(01:00:45):
another twist to this, the drones that the Indians sent
to Karachi and Lahore and that exploded at at the airport,
one of the old airports in Lahore and killed some people.
It's the only one that got through the Pakistani air
defense is shot down. The rest of them. Where did
they get those drones? No, but it is a country.

(01:01:07):
It starts with an eye, and it's somewhat near Iran.
I think a little west of Iran. You're right, I
keep going, hold on, keep going, not that far, okay,
hold on, give it to me. Israel, Oh so India,

(01:01:29):
Israeli drones to destroy stuff in Pakistan.

Speaker 4 (01:01:36):
Globalism, right, this is what it's all. This is. This
is why everybody's upset.

Speaker 5 (01:01:41):
A Jones was right, what the globalists?

Speaker 3 (01:01:45):
You know, this is what global capitalism brings you.

Speaker 6 (01:01:50):
The market is working.

Speaker 5 (01:01:55):
That's why Powell didn't have to move the interest rates.

Speaker 6 (01:01:58):
Right exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:01:59):
The mart of working is working.

Speaker 3 (01:02:02):
Oh my god, that's maybe the seriest but most profound
thing you've said in a while. I don't like what
that means at all.

Speaker 5 (01:02:12):
I don't like that you thought of that.

Speaker 3 (01:02:14):
It's not good.

Speaker 4 (01:02:17):
It's not good. Let's start there. It's not good. I
made a joke earlier about that. I was teaching the
workshop about like cybersecurity stuff, and I was like, these
hackers get these tools. You might be like, well, why
don't we just stop the tools.

Speaker 6 (01:02:31):
From being out there? But I was like free markets.
You were thinking, like, all right, you got all these
tools to do all this stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:02:40):
Why don't you say, hey, you when these tools hit
the internet, No, we shut it down everywhere, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:02:45):
Yeah, but certain people have an interest in keeping them
avail exactly. Sometimes some countries make those tools themselves. No
such agency would do such a thing.

Speaker 4 (01:02:58):
But no such agency, No such agency anyway.

Speaker 3 (01:03:05):
Okay, so that's international edition. Do you want to take
a break?

Speaker 4 (01:03:09):
That's sad. This is not good. No, really, I don't
know why this is not a big enough story.

Speaker 3 (01:03:17):
Ending nuclear war should be a line story?

Speaker 4 (01:03:21):
Or does this end? I mean, this is a lot.
This is kind of crazier than it ever has been.
I would say this is a little deeper than the
normal skirmish as they have. But does it still end
because everybody's like, look, you only want to advance climate change.
Blow one of these damn things up real quick on
here watching or no that actually, who knows? Maybe nuclear

(01:03:44):
winter is what we need. Might cool things down for
a little bit now after it burns everything up.

Speaker 3 (01:03:50):
Yeah, and it could like shut down the economy of
the world long enough to cause total carbon emissions to drop.

Speaker 4 (01:03:56):
So is that zero? Yeah, pre industry? Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 6 (01:04:02):
Maybe this is what happened, mabe, you know, maybe maybe
we've been.

Speaker 5 (01:04:04):
Looking at this wrong fucking Nuka hurricane.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
Let's see what happens.

Speaker 6 (01:04:07):
Let's see what happens free markets.

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
Yeah, okay, we're gonna ring a break and go visit
the free market. You're listening to Chi Chen, I'm doubly
radio and beyond.

Speaker 19 (01:04:35):
First off, Duncan West. That's expensive for the holes in
the back of the pack and its life. I meant
I was in the check because I got my secon
might number like a dentist to the again.

Speaker 11 (01:04:48):
Brought because.

Speaker 6 (01:05:00):
Remember pass away.

Speaker 5 (01:05:08):
Present ship.

Speaker 19 (01:05:11):
Way show such a treaty tweets a girl she.

Speaker 5 (01:05:20):
Christmas week?

Speaker 3 (01:05:21):
What did you tweet?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Was?

Speaker 20 (01:05:39):
Okay, down from something away talking up from about place
from backing. You gotta say if you away thinking about like,
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:05:57):
Think the books.

Speaker 21 (01:06:00):
Like I don't like them butting chemicals in the water

(01:06:22):
because they turned the frigging FB case.

Speaker 16 (01:06:25):
Do you understand that turned the sob CAUs crap.

Speaker 10 (01:06:30):
Case falts frigging SATs fast.

Speaker 4 (01:06:32):
It's not funny.

Speaker 10 (01:06:33):
I'm gonna say real slow for your case, frogs.

Speaker 4 (01:06:48):
For your life.

Speaker 10 (01:06:53):
Case ft frigging sat.

Speaker 16 (01:06:55):
I don't like a frog, okay, frog.

Speaker 10 (01:07:07):
C I'm gonna say real slow for you.

Speaker 5 (01:07:24):
That's what always gets me on that one.

Speaker 22 (01:07:27):
He says, it's not funny, it's chorically false.

Speaker 6 (01:07:32):
It is very funny, man for interf.

Speaker 4 (01:07:35):
You disgusted and just watching this and us laughing at it,
Please go donate to the Sandy Hook promise not or
I'm saying that anytime we.

Speaker 5 (01:07:45):
Play that we go to every town for America. And yes,
oh my god.

Speaker 11 (01:07:54):
Frog crap, you fight the frogs.

Speaker 6 (01:08:02):
Man, Oh my god.

Speaker 4 (01:08:05):
What's so good?

Speaker 3 (01:08:07):
All right, speaking of a fight in the frogs, let's talk
about Trump's immigration nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
So nonsense, I mean to god gracious. Tuesday in d
C was very scary for a lot of people.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Yeah, all of DuPont Circle got raided.

Speaker 4 (01:08:27):
Yeah, a lot of one of my buddies in the
service industry, they're like, yeah, our people just didn't come
to work.

Speaker 6 (01:08:32):
So but this is nonsense.

Speaker 4 (01:08:34):
Though.

Speaker 3 (01:08:35):
There were actually a couple of stories I heard about
the owners of the establishments not letting ice in.

Speaker 5 (01:08:43):
Essentially, like the ice guys.

Speaker 3 (01:08:45):
Showed up and they're like, hey, we want to talk
to your people, and they're like, you gotta warn't and
they were like, we don't need to.

Speaker 5 (01:08:52):
Push them in, and they they the.

Speaker 3 (01:08:54):
Shop owners like push them out and barricaded the door
and like funk off. So they gotta warrant if you're
so like legit and what you're doing, Man, I'm sure
a judge would look to sign off of that ship
for you, which worries me.

Speaker 4 (01:09:09):
For the shop owners that if they don't end up
getting treated like the judge.

Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:09:16):
I am very certain that at a point in the
not too distant future, these raids are going to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:26):
End.

Speaker 5 (01:09:27):
One of them is going to end in the death
of some of these agents.

Speaker 3 (01:09:31):
Oh.

Speaker 4 (01:09:31):
I've been saying that as well too, because I just
don't understand why, Like it's as armed as many people
are in this country right like especially they're they're in
plain clothes, unmarked, like someone is not gonna know your ice.
It's simply in Florida, I've wondered. I feel like that's

(01:09:52):
where this happens first.

Speaker 5 (01:09:53):
I think I think it's right or Florida or Texas.

Speaker 3 (01:09:55):
I mean, those are the two populations that are that
are heavily on and these guys are moving, as you mentioned,
totally in plain clothes. There's no identification. In some cases,
they're not identifying themselves at all, and it looks like
a kidnapping or a or a mugging or something like that. Yeah,
and then there's the other aspect of like somebody's gonna

(01:10:18):
see this happening and say this is bullshit and.

Speaker 5 (01:10:21):
Shoot at them.

Speaker 3 (01:10:22):
It's just gonna happen, like if if you've already got
nothing to lose.

Speaker 6 (01:10:27):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:10:29):
I'm just saying, you know, people are all they're shooting
them with their cameras right now. But there's gonna be
a point where somebody's gonna be like ah ah and just.

Speaker 4 (01:10:36):
Being a stay in a ground law state, that's all
I need.

Speaker 3 (01:10:39):
Yeah, but it's still not gonna matter. You know, what's
gonna happen. What's gonna happen. I mean, hey, what do
you mean the person stood their ground? They didn't know
what I thought we believed in the Second Amendment in
this country.

Speaker 5 (01:10:48):
So anyway, here's some bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
So one of the things that the Trump people are
like depending on for their very faulty legal rationale, which
we're going to get to in a minute, is that
they keep mentioning that this Venezuelan gang, which is called
trend Aragua, is some sort of international military invasion of.

Speaker 5 (01:11:19):
The United States. So I'm just going to read this
right here.

Speaker 3 (01:11:24):
The US intelligence community says it does not believe that
Venezuelan President Nicholas Maduro directs trained to Aragua, a criminal
gang that operates in the US, in a newly declassified,
redacted memo. The memo contradicts claims by Trump, who has
accused Madurea of controlling the gang, which Trump says is
invading the US, and the government has relied on this

(01:11:45):
argument to justify the deportations of alleged gang members under
the Alien Enemies Act. Now, we should also point out,
as sixty minutes did seventy five percent of the people
that they claimed for gang members and deported so far
to alsoved or had no criminal record whatsoever in this
country or others. So they're not actually using this as

(01:12:09):
a justification. They're just saying that what they're doing is
looking at people who look round, throwing them on an
airplane and dropping them off in another country full of
people who they think will.

Speaker 4 (01:12:18):
Because the whole basis is obviously a lie because they
were never let's just say there were the actual gang
members here, all right, maybe cool, and you could maybe
run with this, but they have not been able to
find any other.

Speaker 5 (01:12:33):
Yeah, they can't find any of them.

Speaker 4 (01:12:35):
So then they're like, oh, we gotta say face, pick
them whoever, get whoever you want, because yeah, it's clearly
that the and you do wonder at this point, like
was that the.

Speaker 5 (01:12:46):
Whole plan obviously from the beginning, But even if it was.

Speaker 4 (01:12:48):
Not right, you're not finding gang members, so you have
to supplement them with kids who have cancer, I guess.

Speaker 3 (01:12:56):
Yeah, so there are from a different country too, they're
it is like racist on its face, but it's very
shockingly racist that the Trump immigration system thinks that people
from Honduras are the same as people from Venezuela, which

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these countries are separated by one thousand miles there and
several other countries in between them. Like this doesn't make
any sense anymore so than saying that, you know, people
from Spain are the same as people from Lithuania, Like, okay,
they're from the same continent, Like is that your reason here? Now?

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Most of the time, when you have a criminal organization
in a country, they're not usually working for the government
or with the government in that country or another country
for that matter. They're criminals and they're doing their own
sort of enterprise. But there are instances, of course, where
like the central government maybe kind of lets it happen,

(01:14:07):
you know, because they're not like able to stop the crime,
or because they're somewhat complicit in it in terms of
like the economic benefits or whatever. You can think of
countless examples of this, like in Colombia, for example, where
the government didn't really want to stop the drug cartels
that were operating because that was like their only source

(01:14:28):
of revenue or income and that was sort of working
in conjunction with the coffee.

Speaker 5 (01:14:35):
You can pick your country here, right, like the grift.

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Like, let's say you have a country, right it's operating
nominally as a democracy, but they have some sort of
criminal element that is somewhat aligned ideologically or economically with
the government that is doing something like forcing other countries
to buy their satellite internet or like get atting subsidies

(01:15:02):
from that government to then build their particular electric vehicles
at the expense of others, or like just stealing contracts
from like the government just giving them contracts like for
kind of nothing, but just as a way to like
pass public money into the pockets of these people, because
you know, they're economically like what would you. I'm trying

(01:15:24):
to I'm blanket on the country, but you know there's
a lot of them like that.

Speaker 4 (01:15:27):
Yeah, I mean, I wonder I comes to mind and
people might scoff at this one, but I find Afghanistan
in uh opioids, to be honest, and the poppies on
there during the time like of our occupation of that,
because it doesn't feel like that was shut down. Uh,
it doesn't like that seem to still be happening. And
I also was in conjunction with the largest opioid crisis

(01:15:50):
at the time. I'm just saying, I don't know, I'm
I don't.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
Know of any nominal democracies that are trying to like
line the pockets of their friends from South Africa. But
I'm just saying that, like it could happen, you know, hypothetically.
So anyway, this April seventh memo that was obtained by
a Freedom of the Press Foundation says that they're like, nah,

(01:16:18):
TDA is not working for the Venezuelan government and so
like their.

Speaker 4 (01:16:22):
Own was the Freedom of the Press Foundays and that
won't be around long. No, No, those guys are all
in jail.

Speaker 3 (01:16:33):
Last story, it's like one move chess, right, you get
to make your one good move and they all go
to jail. Uh. The memo also undercuts some of the
government's claim that the about the power and reach of
the group. It says TVA is a decent is decentralized,
and notes that it is highly unlikely the TDA coordinates
large volumes of human trafficking or migrants smuggling. One of

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the things that we have learned historically about Central America
in gangs, in particular MS thirteen and Borrow eighteen, is
that like the oldest members of these groups is like
twenty five years old. That basically they age out right,
they're in this while they need to be, and then

(01:17:16):
they get jobs or they have a kid and they leave,
and they're just.

Speaker 4 (01:17:21):
Leaving their country to get out of the situation right itself.

Speaker 6 (01:17:26):
Then that's usually what happens when they make it here.

Speaker 3 (01:17:29):
Yes, they make it here and become drywall experts or whatever,
and you know, plumbers or sheet metal apprentices.

Speaker 4 (01:17:39):
Ay taxes.

Speaker 6 (01:17:39):
That's what they do.

Speaker 3 (01:17:42):
They buy a lot of fuel, and they buy a
lot of food, and they pay rent and they do
all of the things that keep the economy humming.

Speaker 5 (01:17:48):
Along the way.

Speaker 6 (01:17:51):
The old economy.

Speaker 3 (01:17:52):
The old economy not anymore. So yeah, that undercuts their stuff.
Now here's why that kind of matters.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Right, Yes, the follow story is in Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:18:02):
The next story.

Speaker 3 (01:18:02):
A federal judge in New York ruled Tuesday that the
Alien Enemies Act quote was not validly invoked.

Speaker 4 (01:18:10):
No shit, oh yeah, because Congress declared war right right.

Speaker 3 (01:18:15):
US District Judge Alvin Hellerstein on Tuesday granted a preliminary
injunction in the case of two planeffs, identified by their
initials GFF and JGO, who were pulled off of planes
to Al Salvador and transferred back to New York from Texas,
where they had been detained on suspicion of alignment with

(01:18:38):
Venezuelan gang Trenderragua if their Salvador never mind.

Speaker 5 (01:18:46):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
Tuesday's really comes after a Trump appointed federal judge in
Texas last week permanently blocked the Trump administration from detaining, transferring,
or removing Venezuelan's targeted for deportation under the Alien Enemies
Act in the Southern District of Texas, which is basically
the whole border right, ruling that the administration's invocation of

(01:19:07):
the Alien Enemies Act quote exceeds the scope of the law,
you know, well, yeah, it was set up in the
eighteenth century to deport alleged or people with like no
due process when we're at war, which were not at

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all because Congress hasn't declared war because the Constitution, that
thing that Trump doesn't know if he's supposed to uphold
or not, says only Congress can declare a war.

Speaker 4 (01:19:40):
Such a dumb question, by uh, that's an ABC question.
I think it's you know, this is why it's it's
such an ask nine question. They go up on not
even a Trump Bible, regular Bible, and they swear an
oath to the Constitution, and yeah, I don't I think
there was a follow up of that, either.

Speaker 3 (01:20:04):
To give Welker like a little bit of cover here.
Trump was gonna say, I don't know to anything she
asked it. Yes, he was trying to get back to
saying what he wanted, because.

Speaker 4 (01:20:12):
Yeah, he went, of course he wants to contrump. But
it's like, sir, did you not budge an oath to
the Constitution.

Speaker 5 (01:20:20):
There's there's no holding him to it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:23):
You saw what happened when Terry Moran was like, are
you sure you want to stick to this thing about
the tattoo on the knuckles. The long version of that
clip is like almost two minutes long, and it is
excruciating to watch Trump continue to believe this thing that
is very obviously not the case, and he can't be

(01:20:44):
shaken off of it, and Moran tries everything he can
to move the conversation along and just let it go,
and Trump won't let it go.

Speaker 4 (01:20:52):
So I don't know.

Speaker 5 (01:20:52):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
This is damned if you do, damned if you don't
like I almost basically stop interviewing him. I don't think
anybody can put him on television.

Speaker 4 (01:21:00):
That really, I think that is But then it's like tap,
he's not platformed the United States President.

Speaker 3 (01:21:06):
I mean I don't because he's not operating as such
in good faith.

Speaker 4 (01:21:12):
He's not.

Speaker 3 (01:21:13):
No, no, this is a dangerous person. Every minute you
let him on television, you're putting the country at risk.
I absolutely agree with Celess Headley that, like, we should
not be platforming this at all. So this kind of
comes on the heels of the Supreme Court decision which
said five four that everybody who gets hauled in for

(01:21:37):
deportation can challenge that and the way that the administration
initially was like, okay, fine, we'll inform them that they
can challenge it. It was like with a phone call
in English and they had twelve hours or something. And
there been ruling since then that say, no, you need
to give them written notice in a language they understand,

(01:21:58):
and they got to have twenty one days and like
a lot of stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
Basic things.

Speaker 3 (01:22:02):
Yeah, and the Trump people have responded to this by
basically saying, well, the judges are illegitimate and calling to
impeach them, rather than saying, Okay, we'll just follow these rules.
Trump said in that same interview, he was like, when
you have courts and due process getting in the way,
that's not what I want to do. And that's when that, yeah,

(01:22:23):
it slows everything down. And that's when Walker's like, but
it's in the constitution and he's like, ah, fuck that thing.

Speaker 5 (01:22:30):
All right. So that was like another loss for him, right,
is that you can't use this thing because of all
of the rules.

Speaker 3 (01:22:39):
Then he okay. Earlier this week, there was like a
chatter story, not even a real story, that the Trump
administration was talking about deporting migrants to Libya.

Speaker 4 (01:22:56):
Hmm.

Speaker 3 (01:22:57):
You know the safest place on Earth, not even like
Rwanda where they're gonna pay them to take them. Right,
They're like, you know, where's just some ungoverned space that
we can drop people out of airplanes? So they're like, yeah,
we're gonna just drop them in Libya. And they're they're
gonna drop like Cambodians in Libya.

Speaker 8 (01:23:18):
Like what is like.

Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
How you know Trump is stuck in the like late seventies,
early eighties that the countries he can think of and
the way he can focus is on things like Libya
and Cambodia.

Speaker 6 (01:23:33):
Okay, guy, So.

Speaker 3 (01:23:37):
This story like comes out and you're like, what are they.

Speaker 5 (01:23:39):
Talking about Libya for?

Speaker 6 (01:23:41):
Like I was very confused.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
Libya is is a it's not a country right now,
like since Kaddafi was killed in the streets on video.

Speaker 5 (01:23:53):
In the closest.

Speaker 3 (01:23:56):
Approximation of a reenactment of lame Is in real life
is you could imagine which incidentally Trump is watching Lami
Is at the Kennedy Center tonight, Irony of Ironies first
time there.

Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
Yeah, right, they there's like there's kind of two governments
in Libya.

Speaker 3 (01:24:15):
One that's recognized by half of the world, one that's
recognized by another. They have this tenuous deal where one's
got the oil and pays the other one not to
attack it. Essentially, but it's not a it's not a
place you can send anybody to. So that they were
talking about this at all is nuts. So then a

(01:24:36):
federal judge one of the Trump administration wednesday that it
cannot deport immigrants to Libya, Saudi Arabia, and any other
country where they are not citizens without due process, saying
that such a move would violate standing court orders intended.

Speaker 5 (01:24:51):
To show people from being expelled.

Speaker 3 (01:24:53):
So like, the court said, you can't send these people
to these places, and the Trump people were like, well
what about these other places?

Speaker 4 (01:25:00):
Like no places?

Speaker 5 (01:25:01):
No places. I can't believe.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
I have to clarify that to you. It says you
can't deport anybody without due process, You fucking moron.

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
Which is that? I think it's the right. Judges are
still operating on like a normal Like they can write
these these I guess opinions in the sense and or
rule and say, hey, well I'm not gonna I don't
have to lay the whole thing out because I've never
had to.

Speaker 6 (01:25:29):
There are certain words that just mean stop right.

Speaker 4 (01:25:32):
Trump administration is like no, no, no, no. If you
don't put stop in a sharpie in the document, then
it doesn't mean that to us, and we will then
continue and force you to come back and write and
again write out something that might have only been verbal
or pick whatever.

Speaker 6 (01:25:51):
Like they keep doing it. It's a unique strategy that it's.

Speaker 3 (01:25:55):
Sort of like if your mom says, like, stop hitting
your little brother, and so then you start kicking it
and she didn't, I just tell you not to do that,
and you know I'm not hitting him.

Speaker 5 (01:26:04):
I'm kicking it.

Speaker 4 (01:26:05):
That's exactly it.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
And she then you, yeah, uh so. US District Judge
Brian E. Murphy in Boston, I like the Brian Murphy
of Boston is the judge. I can only imagine what
this sounded like in his courtroom. Writing in a swift,
stern response to an emergency request from lawyers for a
number of immigrants, said that he had already borught the

(01:26:30):
Department of Homeland Security from deporting people to a third
country without having given them a chance to challenge the
removal n seat protection in the United States, and the
Trump people are like, DHS isn't deporting them. We gave
them to the military and the military is the one
who's flying the plane.

Speaker 5 (01:26:49):
So you didn't say they couldn't do it. It's crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:26:53):
And the judge was like, are you out of your
fucking mind?

Speaker 4 (01:26:56):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:26:56):
And he's in Boston, so he's like, are you out
of your fucking mind? Like, you know, imagine a judge
that sounds like Bill Burr. That's kind of where I'm
picturing this. So let's see if there's any doubt the
court sees none. The alleged imminent removals, as reported by
news agencies, and as the plaintiffs seek to corroborate with

(01:27:17):
class member accounts in public information, would clearly violate the
court's order.

Speaker 6 (01:27:23):
He wrote, eight, guy right, So then this pinhead.

Speaker 3 (01:27:31):
Fucking Stephen Miller, Oh, diabolical Jesus.

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
Tapp dance in Christ this guy.

Speaker 4 (01:27:37):
Yeah, he's diabolical. Yah.

Speaker 3 (01:27:40):
He derided the judges rule in quote another judge puts
himself in charge of the Pentagon.

Speaker 5 (01:27:46):
He wrote, this is a judicial coup.

Speaker 4 (01:27:51):
It's so disingenuous because it's it's not in charge of
the pentagon. It's the executive branch, and it's being checked
by the judicial branch because the other branch has went
to bed. All right, but yeah, it's literally how this

(01:28:14):
is set up to work, and it's surprising it's still working.

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
To be honest, Like, I think we're just I think
we're maybe a few weeks away from some of these
flights just happening. And the judge is futilely saying, we

(01:28:38):
told you not to do that, and the Trump administration saying,
and what are you going to do about it?

Speaker 1 (01:28:44):
Now?

Speaker 4 (01:28:44):
I think this gets pushed and I think oddly enough,
Donald Trump pushes back against that. We'll see how long
it is, how long he does that, But I think
there is I think whether it's the I think is
wanting to be like he talks about the disrespect for

(01:29:05):
his judges, right, A lot of these are his judges.

Speaker 5 (01:29:08):
A lot of these are judges he appointed.

Speaker 4 (01:29:09):
Yeah, yeah, And I wonder if that undercuts our undermines
things for him, and like, don't get me starting to
try to like psychoanalyze this. Man.

Speaker 5 (01:29:18):
I don't know your pointed J.

Speaker 4 (01:29:19):
Powell, you know, I yeah, so, I mean I don't,
But I just wonder, like, because there's one man who
will continue to push this and he just gave a
quote from him, he will ask for that, right, But
I wonder. I wonder though, if the rest of the
folks in there, I wonder if, like the chief of staff,
I wonder if they're like, you know what, we got

(01:29:41):
to figure out another way versus totally just going over
the court. Well, why haven't they done it yet? I
mean they haven't. They have done it, but I'm talking
about just continuously like this year. Why don't they just
just still send them to Livia.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
I think they have figured out a way to do this,
which is essentially to if if there is if Trump
is trying to do like a deportation flight that's patently illegal, right,
they could do it under pretty tight secrecy and as
long as there's no signal chat telling everybody what's going on,

(01:30:20):
they could probably get away with it at least in
small enough numbers.

Speaker 5 (01:30:25):
And I know Trump likes the bigger numbers.

Speaker 4 (01:30:26):
And so I'm saying the whole thing is that he
needs this to take from how many is supposed to
be a million gone already?

Speaker 3 (01:30:33):
Yeah, But like let's say a C seventeen takes off
from some random air base and starts flying someplace, and
you know, the airplane nerds might notice it and tracking
on a flight radar and and like say something about it,
but hardly anybody else would notice, and.

Speaker 4 (01:30:56):
It could just do it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:58):
But if you are somebody within the.

Speaker 3 (01:31:03):
Chain of command or like that would know about this
and and doesn't want to fully disobey a court order,
the thing you would do is tell somebody this is
happening so that they can make it, make noise and
get it in front of a judge and like get
them to do something like this and have it be
on the front page of the paper.

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
And that might that that is the only mechanical check
on this at the moment, I think.

Speaker 4 (01:31:32):
But there again, or the planes, there are no traffic controllers.

Speaker 3 (01:31:37):
There's no air traffic controllers, so they don't know. Yeah,
they can't. They can't take off a weak.

Speaker 22 (01:31:52):
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, the Capitals have tied the series
up three to one.

Speaker 5 (01:31:57):
All right, So this is the shirt?

Speaker 9 (01:31:59):
I mean, sorry, yeah, yes, it's been a long day
for one.

Speaker 5 (01:32:06):
So so that's the answer. Then this is the right shirt.

Speaker 3 (01:32:11):
I wore one of my other shirts Monday that was
a mistake or Tuesday, whatever day it was, So this
is the one, and I guess I can't wash it either.
Maybe also, like earlier this week my life is like,
we're really doing the playoff here. And I was like, oh, yeah,

(01:32:31):
we're doing that.

Speaker 4 (01:32:32):
And she was like.

Speaker 3 (01:32:35):
And she gave me the look of like a sad
Rangers fan who isn't in the playoffs, and I was like, well,
you know that's your problem. So okay, speaking of that
part of the world and airplanes and airplanes, we're we're
doing we're doing a maximum thing here.

Speaker 5 (01:32:53):
Yeah, this is this segment is called airplane News.

Speaker 13 (01:32:56):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:32:57):
Uh. I don't know how any long time listeners don't
know this about me, but I love airplanes like irrationally,
and I pay a lot of attention to them. Every
single time I hear a plane going over my head,
I look up and I identify it and I think
about them all the time.

Speaker 6 (01:33:20):
Propel thyself in the air and the tube. It's insane.

Speaker 5 (01:33:24):
It is a truly remarkable thing.

Speaker 4 (01:33:27):
Yeah, and every time I do, every time I get
on one, I'm like, this is crazy.

Speaker 3 (01:33:31):
It is and it and that it works is crazy,
and that we've only been doing it.

Speaker 5 (01:33:37):
Now for like about one hundred.

Speaker 6 (01:33:41):
Years.

Speaker 4 (01:33:41):
Yeah exactly.

Speaker 3 (01:33:43):
And yeah, so airplanes are cool, right, I'm really into them,
And that means that tangentially, I have to like no
more than the average person about how airports and the
air traffic control system works, because I like to pay
attention to that kind of thing. I'm not an expert exactly,

(01:34:06):
but I would definitely say that if we're playing bar
trivia and airport codes comes up, I'm your guy.

Speaker 4 (01:34:16):
I know a lot of them.

Speaker 3 (01:34:18):
And runway numbers another thing I care a lot about
because I do. Okay, So here's what you need to
know the background for this story to make sense. The
United States is far behind most of the rest of
the world, including a lot of Third world countries, in
the way that we do air traffic control, and part

(01:34:41):
of that has to do with that we kind of
invented it, right, So we have these systems that were
built on top of other systems on top of other
systems that are these legacy systems. The most recent major
upgrades to this whole network took place in the nineties,
like the early nineties, late eighties, early nineties, and so

(01:35:03):
we're dealing with a level of technology that is basically
that vintage. There's two main problems with this. One is
unreliable old school copper wiring, which you can think of
is like phones, right, essentially modems and phone technology. And
the other problem is that the way that we track

(01:35:24):
the airplanes and have them communicate with each other is
ground based, meaning even though we have GPS and satellites
that could and could allow like communication directly from plane
to plane or from plane to tower or plane.

Speaker 5 (01:35:40):
To controller, we don't do it that way.

Speaker 3 (01:35:43):
We still have ground based radar that is tracking all
of these planes and their transponders, that is relaying information
down to the ground and then back up and down
to the ground and backup, and it's slow, and it's clumsy,
and it can get like jumbled up in various ways.
Since the early two thousands, the government Congress has mandated

(01:36:08):
that the FAA and the system transition over to a
GPS based tracking and communications system, which would allow these
planes to fly much more close together because it'd be
safe to know where they are, would need a big cushion,
and it would make things much more efficient because instead
of having to fly in these designated kind of highways

(01:36:31):
in the sky. You ever look up and see all
the contrails in one place, that's because that's the lane
that they got to stay in. They could fly planes
could fly more direct and it would. It would make
things a lot more efficient, save a lot of fuel,
save a lot of money, and make things miles safer.
While Congress has ordered this to happen, they haven't funded it.
Like ever, how does that work?

Speaker 5 (01:36:53):
Well, because it's Congress.

Speaker 3 (01:36:55):
And how does that over the course of this when
they do fund You need to know that when government
agencies go to do large capital stuff like big upgrades,
they need a specific budget for it. And if the
government keeps shutting down or using continuing resolutions, they never

(01:37:18):
get the money or the authorization for those big capital improvements.
They just have enough to keep going with what they've got. Okay,
So that's to set the scene. So you've got thirty
years of unfunded mandate and inconsistent funding mechanisms by Congress.

Speaker 6 (01:37:39):
And more planes and more roots, more.

Speaker 3 (01:37:41):
Planes, more route yeat because another thing Congress does is
approve flights in and out of airports, and they keep
doing it more. So okay, fast forward to now right,
thousands of flights in or out of Newark have been delayed.

Speaker 5 (01:38:00):
It's funny that this.

Speaker 3 (01:38:02):
Oh wrong, clip, Brian, that's a different plane. Yeah, there
you go in the story, it says derailed, which I
think is funny. With ninety four cancelations and one hundred
and twenty or one hundred and twelve delays after nine
am Tuesday, and more than twenty eight hundred delays in
the past seven days, according to flight Aware, which is

(01:38:24):
a website that tracks this stuff.

Speaker 5 (01:38:26):
FAA put yet.

Speaker 3 (01:38:27):
Another ground delay program in place Tuesday and said planes
departing to Newark are being held up as an average
of two hours and forty one minutes. Because Newark is
a huge airport and a big hub for a lot
of things, specifically for United formerly Continental. If it's down,

(01:38:48):
it kind of fucks up a lot of stuff for
a lot of places. And the reason it went down
is because at several points in the last couple of
weeks the communications quit on them for like sixty to
ninety seconds at a time. On April twenty eighth, the
newer team temporarily lost radar and comms with aircraft under

(01:39:13):
their control, leaving them quote unable to see here or
talk to them.

Speaker 5 (01:39:18):
That one of the officials computer.

Speaker 3 (01:39:21):
Screens went dark for sixty to ninety seconds, making it
impossible for controllers to talk to aircraft. During that time.
ABC News reported the FAA said in a statement Monday
that some controllers were taking time off after going through
quote multiple recent outages, without providing details. The FAA has
these rules that say that if a contractor experience or
I'm sorry not contractors, if a controller experiences like a

(01:39:44):
traumatic event, they can take a few days off to
get their shit together.

Speaker 4 (01:39:48):
Because you need your mind right where you're controlling these
buses out in the sky.

Speaker 3 (01:39:53):
Right exactly so, especially if it's something like this that
rattles you, you need a break.

Speaker 5 (01:40:02):
And the result of that is this already short staff
was even shorter.

Speaker 3 (01:40:06):
And when there's a limit to people in the towers,
there's a limit to how many planes can come through
at a period of time by rule and by just
like physical capability. So they had to stop, and they
had to delay, and they had to.

Speaker 5 (01:40:23):
It's bad.

Speaker 3 (01:40:24):
It's really bad. And this is Trump's FAA. You know,
this is his responsibility to fix. It's the real world,
Sean Duffy's response or road rules. Sorry, his responsibility to fix.

Speaker 6 (01:40:36):
Sean Duffy is the greatest name. That should be fake.

Speaker 5 (01:40:40):
It should be fake.

Speaker 3 (01:40:41):
Well, we've already had a Brian Murphy. Now we've got
a Sean Duffy. We need like a Jamison mcgillcutty.

Speaker 4 (01:40:48):
This Sean P. Duvey is like, I feel like what uh.

Speaker 6 (01:40:53):
Sean Combs would be like trying to hide from people.
This is alias, This.

Speaker 4 (01:40:59):
Is a what do you know? It? Storally him. It's
just like if he wasn't doing like are you P
Didny No? No, Shwan Duffy? What that sounds?

Speaker 5 (01:41:10):
I don't know. You look a lot like P did he?

Speaker 4 (01:41:11):
No.

Speaker 5 (01:41:12):
I'm Sean Duffy.

Speaker 3 (01:41:15):
Crazy Sean Duffy and P did he look a lot
alike too, So I can see people getting you.

Speaker 4 (01:41:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:41:23):
He mentions here that the system is twenty five to
thirty years on and we see these floppy discs, which
I think is.

Speaker 4 (01:41:29):
Don't tell me that. They don't tell me that, friend,
You know what, keep that to the chest. You don't
tell me that when I'm flying on these planes, you
don't tell me that the systems are using bloody floppy
disc Okay, I just don't want to know. It almost
has me wondering too. Sometimes it's like you're on the
plane and like.

Speaker 6 (01:41:43):
How much stuff did they actually like not tell you?

Speaker 4 (01:41:50):
I was gonna say, like things like like the computer
goes down for how many people on the planes, though
a certain crasher in the sky knew that the computer like, no,
we're not landing in Newark right away. It might be
an hour delay. We're just working on some things.

Speaker 5 (01:42:06):
It's hard to know.

Speaker 3 (01:42:09):
I think as a passenger, I mean you can tell
when you get sent around, yes, especially if it's an
approach and an airport you fly in and out of
a lot, right, But.

Speaker 5 (01:42:26):
Sometimes they do this thing where they kind of like
make you turn wide.

Speaker 3 (01:42:32):
They don't really send you around, but they'll but they'll
there's like a standard approach and then there's like a
delayed approach which will give a little more time between
incoming aircraft so that stuff that's on the ground can
get up and get off the tarmac. And sometimes they'll
do it to like avoid certain chunks of airspace when

(01:42:53):
they say like helicopters flying through or some other traffic
that they're trying to route around. So you might not
notice that as a passenger, and probably only the pilot.

Speaker 4 (01:43:06):
And crew know. So you're tuned in the chip wings,
Will we tell you everything that's going on with planes?

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
Yeah, this is very boring. We're very sorry. So anyway,
Trump's gotta fix it.

Speaker 3 (01:43:21):
And he doesn't know shit about any of this, and
Duffy doesn't know shit about it. And I can't believe
I'm about to say this. But to be fair to them,
this isn't really their problem. This is Condress's problem.

Speaker 4 (01:43:39):
I'm sure they'll fix it.

Speaker 6 (01:43:40):
It'll be like.

Speaker 5 (01:43:41):
Johnson will fix it.

Speaker 6 (01:43:42):
Yeah, it's gonna be the one big beautiful bill, right
that raising taxes on the rich.

Speaker 16 (01:43:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:43:48):
Did you see that photo of them next to that headline?
Like Johnson looks so dejected to be there.

Speaker 4 (01:43:54):
I'm going I'm going for the signing. If that happens,
can you get what you vote for? I just I
would be insane if that ends up happening.

Speaker 3 (01:44:07):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:44:08):
It seems to be popular. He likes to be popular.
He's already rich.

Speaker 3 (01:44:12):
Yeah, that's true, right, I mean that would be the
argument there, which is the argument that we, the decent
people of America have been making forever, is you can
tax the ship out of these rich people and they're
still gonna be rich.

Speaker 5 (01:44:26):
Exactly, I close the budget.

Speaker 3 (01:44:30):
Gap and these people wouldn't actually feel it at all.

Speaker 4 (01:44:35):
I'm telling I'm wondering and it would just be I
would love because he had all the nice CEOs up
on the stage or from I would just love it
be pure comedy. If he was like, what I think,
you know, it's time for us to pay a little more,
to do more, if we need to do more.

Speaker 5 (01:44:56):
I know Zack Berry came and licked my boots.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
Now him, you know what? And then I know then
I know what's actually gonna happen. They won't miss this time.
That won't miss this time.

Speaker 3 (01:45:13):
Okay, now, before we get thrown into guag, let's let's
talk about the navy. Okay, So the Navy has airplanes too,
and some of them fly off of boats. They don't
call them boats, they call them ships. And they're not
just ships, they're called aircraft carriers, right, and saying.

Speaker 6 (01:45:30):
That they able to do that too, that it's insane,
another insane feet of man.

Speaker 5 (01:45:36):
The very first aircraft carrier was in the Potomac River.

Speaker 3 (01:45:42):
And yeah, it was a project by the Smithsonian sponsored
and uh and a guy called Langley, and the idea
was this, They were trying to beat the rights h
into the air and they figured the only safe way
to launch powered airplane was with a catapult, and the
only safe way to do that is to do it

(01:46:03):
over water, and so they set it out in the
Potomac and launched it.

Speaker 5 (01:46:10):
It ripped, yeah, sort of right near where the Kennedy
Center is now. It did not work, but they tried
and hurry.

Speaker 3 (01:46:18):
That's why we're doing now, right, Okay, So the Navy
has aircraft carriers, and there's a particular aircraft carrier which
is called the Harry S. Truman, which is famous because
the buck stops right in front of it. So it's
an aircraft carrier from Missouri, you know where the ocean is.

(01:46:42):
It's a big aircraft carrier. It's a very modern aircraft carrier,
and it's out there in the Middle East and it's
specifically in the Red Sea right now.

Speaker 5 (01:46:51):
It's been on a very long deployment.

Speaker 3 (01:46:53):
It keeps getting like extended, and it's part of the
task force that has been held helping to try to
shoot at the houthis or protect ships from the houthies,
which this week Trump decided We're just not going to
do anymore or something which made me think maybe the
deal was we're sending migrants to Yemen.

Speaker 4 (01:47:14):
Now or something.

Speaker 6 (01:47:15):
Exactly.

Speaker 4 (01:47:16):
There's a deal, big.

Speaker 5 (01:47:18):
Deal, tremendous deal, the best deal.

Speaker 3 (01:47:21):
Many people are saying. A Yemeny guy came up to me,
strong guy, tall guy, tears in his eyes. He said, Sir, sir, Yemen,
it's not Yemen anymore. It's more like Oman. And I
was like, oh man, he goes, no, no Yemen, All right,
that's bad.

Speaker 4 (01:47:38):
That's bad.

Speaker 5 (01:47:40):
So the HARRYS.

Speaker 3 (01:47:41):
Truman is out there with with its airplanes, and the
F eighteens are on there, and there was an F
eighteen that was coming back from doing what it was doing. Again,
check your text messages, I'm sure sector hag said sent
you something about it. And when airplanes land on aircraft carriers,

(01:48:03):
it's not like a long runway, right, And fighter jets
in particular are going pretty fast. Even when they're going
their slowest, they're going very very fast. They've got short,
little stubby wings. They cannot go slow speed. They just
go fast. And so to land, they have these arrest
or hooks. It's like a little hook that sticks out
the bottom of them, and there's these wires that go

(01:48:25):
across the arrestor cables that they attempt to catch with
the hook and it stops them dead on the deck.
And if you ever really get to see one of
these things land, it looks like a crash. Basically, it
comes flying in like a like an airplane, and then
instead of hitting and going like this, it just goes

(01:48:47):
boom and it just smacks the deck right and the
arrestor grabs it and the pilots go and then they
you know, then the guy comes out and Kenny Login
starts saying dangerous, and then that's that's how it works.

Speaker 5 (01:49:01):
There's always Kenny Logins. That's just real in the NATY.

Speaker 3 (01:49:05):
And it didn't work this time. Now to hedge against this, right,
because it sometimes doesn't work. As pilots are hitting the deck,
they rev up the engine to maximum in case the
arrest doesn't grab, and they can just take off and
basically try again, and they practice that. Well, this time

(01:49:26):
it didn't work and they didn't take right off, and
they went off the end of the aircraft carrier.

Speaker 5 (01:49:32):
The pilots ejected and there's two.

Speaker 3 (01:49:35):
Of them and the super hornets and they jumped out
and the sixty seven million dollar faighteen went prink into
the water like tes at a golf course, yep, exactly.
And you're like, oh, well, that's that's terrible, you know.
And then you're like, I bet that doesn't happen very often, right, Yeah,

(01:49:56):
And then then you find out, well it does on
this boat, uh ship.

Speaker 5 (01:50:02):
Sorry, they get bent out of shape about it.

Speaker 4 (01:50:04):
Boats are met man, this thing has been demoted to
a boat.

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
Well, don't say that to the nation. Those guys get
real flip flipping crazy. Ships are on the surface. Boats
are underwater. That's that's their their rules. I don't know,
they're all.

Speaker 6 (01:50:21):
Boats, right, what so the panel boat is ship?

Speaker 3 (01:50:28):
Yeah, by navy rules. I think I don't know that.
I just I got a serious talking to by several
naval officers about that one time.

Speaker 6 (01:50:38):
You know what, don't want to smoke.

Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
Yeah, that's why they have nuclear now, all right.

Speaker 3 (01:50:45):
So yeah, the last time they lost in f eighteen
was because it was just on the back of the
ship and it turned too fast and it just like
flipped off the back like it wasn't tied down. I
don't know why they forgot to tie down their giant airplane.
But yeah, A third UH fighter was shot down accidentally

(01:51:08):
over the Red Sea by another Navy warship, the Gettysburg.

Speaker 4 (01:51:13):
Of all things. Oh God, of course, yeah, get plane
shot down by another American plane. Yeah, yeah, kind of crazy.
I mean, the Jutis don't have to do anything. Why
are they shooting? Why do they waste the end missiles?

Speaker 3 (01:51:32):
Yeah, we're we're the vaunted naval aviation.

Speaker 5 (01:51:38):
Is not looking great.

Speaker 6 (01:51:41):
Who has been fired?

Speaker 4 (01:51:42):
Okay, I don't know why.

Speaker 6 (01:51:43):
This is the presidency of a person who is known
for firing people.

Speaker 4 (01:51:49):
Well.

Speaker 3 (01:51:49):
Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth has twice extended the aircraft carriers
deployment since it left its home in Virginia.

Speaker 6 (01:51:54):
Last maybe maybe maybe, yeah, maybe most.

Speaker 3 (01:51:58):
Recently last week.

Speaker 4 (01:52:01):
We probably need to bring those boys home.

Speaker 9 (01:52:03):
I think so.

Speaker 5 (01:52:06):
I think so. Where's Tom Cruise?

Speaker 4 (01:52:12):
He landed?

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
You goddamn right, the best naval aviator in history, Maverick?

Speaker 6 (01:52:20):
Yeah, save the movies, I think where Trump's gonna kill them?

Speaker 5 (01:52:24):
Anyways, Okay, here's what we're gonna do.

Speaker 3 (01:52:30):
We're gonna take one more break before we come back
with the fourth half of the show, and we're gonna
play a particular song for this break because it is
relevant to the story that we're gonna come back with afterwards.
There's there's two stories after that, So we're gonna take
a break. You're listening to chip Chat on Beltway Radio

(01:52:51):
and beyond sweets.

Speaker 23 (01:52:53):
In Springfield, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats.
They're eating the pets of the people that live there.
They're eating the dogs, they're eating the cats. They're eating
the pets of the people that live there.

Speaker 8 (01:53:17):
People love Springfield.

Speaker 11 (01:53:18):
Please don't eat bacat.

Speaker 10 (01:53:21):
Why would you do that?

Speaker 9 (01:53:23):
Eat something else? People love Springfield.

Speaker 8 (01:53:28):
Please don't eat my dog. Here's a cat, a log
of other.

Speaker 9 (01:53:34):
Things to eat.

Speaker 8 (01:53:36):
They're eating the dogs, they're eating.

Speaker 9 (01:53:39):
The cats, sammenon.

Speaker 5 (01:53:41):

Speaker 24 (01:53:46):
They're eating the dogs, Loaf, they're eating the cats, Sammimon.

Speaker 8 (01:53:51):
They're eating the dogs. They're eating the cats. They're eating

(01:54:18):
the dogs.

Speaker 24 (01:54:20):
They're eating the cats, salmon, the men. They're eating the
pets of the people that live there. They're eating the dogs, Lollo,
they're eating the.

Speaker 9 (01:54:31):
Cats, salmon, men.

Speaker 3 (01:54:33):
They're eating the pets of the people.

Speaker 1 (01:54:35):
That live there.

Speaker 10 (01:54:40):
In Springfield.

Speaker 8 (01:54:42):
They're eating the dogs.

Speaker 10 (01:54:43):
The people that came in.

Speaker 8 (01:54:45):
They're eating the cats.

Speaker 24 (01:54:46):
They're eating they're eating the pets of the people that
live there, and this is what's happening in our country.

Speaker 3 (01:54:57):
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Speaker 6 (01:55:04):
I can't believe that one.

Speaker 3 (01:55:06):
I can't believe it either.

Speaker 4 (01:55:08):
It is I remember watching that live and clearly being like, well, no, guys,
all right, this is what Yeah, clearly this isn't because
he've been trying to get it into we were waiting
when that story had broke with that two days prior
maybe through ye.

Speaker 6 (01:55:27):
And it's like he weaved it in. It was insane
how he weaved that, incause we all knew that that it.

Speaker 3 (01:55:34):
Was out there in the ether, and it was like
is he gonna mention it or not? And like what
do the moderators or does Harris have to say to
trigger him to do this?

Speaker 5 (01:55:44):
And is he going to be dumb enough to take it?

Speaker 3 (01:55:47):
And I mean that debate was utterly disastrous for Trump
and it was very bad and he won.

Speaker 5 (01:55:57):
Like I I remember watching him do that.

Speaker 3 (01:56:01):
And thinking, oh, this is over, yes, same and and
it's not.

Speaker 4 (01:56:07):
It's bad. That is when my hope.

Speaker 6 (01:56:09):
But I had the most hope because I was like, well,
this is insane, Like what do.

Speaker 4 (01:56:12):
You know that he was flustered he was doing, he said,
eating the doll.

Speaker 3 (01:56:18):
He was like, it was so mad that that, like
people that the moderators wouldn't accept that is true.

Speaker 4 (01:56:28):
Thoughts, which I guess is alarming if you really believe that,
right that that is very scary.

Speaker 3 (01:56:37):
Yeah, thought that was really happening. You'd be like freaking
out to me.

Speaker 6 (01:56:42):
Also, is that the same one we talked about the
transgender mice?

Speaker 3 (01:56:46):
No, what was that?

Speaker 5 (01:56:48):
What was in his joint address to Congress?

Speaker 4 (01:56:54):
Blending together? Sorry, that's yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:56:57):
The mice he was talking about were transgender, and specifically
I think the story that he had found out about
was that the scientists had uh trans or like edited
the gene in the mice with the gene from a
wooly mammoth to make the mice grow fluff like a mammoth.

(01:57:21):
So they were like particularly wooly fluffy mice, which is
kind of cute actually if you if you look them up.

Speaker 5 (01:57:29):
But and that's transgenic. They had new they had different genes.

Speaker 3 (01:57:35):
You know, they I don't I'm not sure what a
transgender mouse would be. But like also like why anybody
would care, you know, like, what are you doing with
the mice that it matters what gender they are.

Speaker 6 (01:57:48):
They can't even use our bathrooms. Yeah, well not with
that attitude.

Speaker 3 (01:57:53):
They can't.

Speaker 4 (01:57:56):
Don't let them in.

Speaker 3 (01:57:57):
They're gonna use the wrong bathroom, all right. So anyway,
this story, this segment is called stupid news now, when
at the time we wrote the stupid news this first
story was about how this guy Ed Martin, who is

(01:58:18):
the interim US Attorney for the District of Columbia, was
probably not going to get confirmed because he kept doing
podcasts with Nazis, Okay, real ones, like real Nazis and
so like Tom Tillis who's in a tough re election
fight there in North Carolina, and some other Republican senators

(01:58:41):
are like, I don't think I want to vote for
this guy. The story now is that Trump has yanked
his nomination and instead nominated Janine Piro.

Speaker 4 (01:58:53):
It gets better.

Speaker 8 (01:58:55):
Who is like.

Speaker 3 (01:58:59):
Red wine sales spiked. There is no chance that if
you want a glass and Merlau in this city anymore,
you will never get it. Jeanine has cornered the market
on all of that, and uh and shout out like
we said that, I think we.

Speaker 5 (01:59:12):
Maybe said earlier. Shout out to Cecily Strong.

Speaker 3 (01:59:14):
You know, she's she's going to make a bank on
this and uh and she and she deserves it. So
we can't skip that story because it's it's not relevant anymore.

Speaker 4 (01:59:23):
Nope.

Speaker 5 (01:59:24):
But the reason we played the store.

Speaker 3 (01:59:26):
The song about the people of Springfield says, do you
want to read this story?

Speaker 1 (01:59:32):
Uh?

Speaker 4 (01:59:32):
Yeah, I'll read this story.

Speaker 5 (01:59:33):
So now this comes from Springfield, Ohio, which is the Springfield.

Speaker 3 (01:59:38):
That Trump was referencing where he thought people were eating
dogs and cats.

Speaker 6 (01:59:44):
I saw the video of this first part.

Speaker 4 (01:59:46):
I saw the video too.

Speaker 5 (01:59:48):
It's tremendous.

Speaker 4 (01:59:49):
Police in Springfield Township had a more than interesting animal
encounter this week when they crossed paths with a raccoon
holding a meth pipe to it to its mouth.

Speaker 6 (02:00:00):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (02:00:02):
According to the new Greatest News Agency Facebook post from
the department, on the evening of May fifth, officers pulled
over a vehicle whose owner had an active warrant and
a suspended driver's license. The driver, fifty five year old
Victoria Videl of Akron, was detained, but when an officer

(02:00:23):
walked back to Vdal's vehicle, a raccoon named Chewie. That's
a good yeah, I was sitting in the driver's seat
with a meth pipe in its mouth. You just really
love to take Ohio. That's why this is the story.
I'm sure you were just salivating when she saw the story.
Chewy quote let me quote this right here. Quote quote

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Chewie had somehow gotten hold of a glass and heathmphetamine pipe,
leading officers to further inspect the vehicle. The post from
the department said a search of the vehicle turned up
crack cocaine, meth, and three used glass pipes. Quote Thankfully, truly,
the raccoon was unharmed and notification was made to the

(02:01:06):
proper authorities to determine that she had the proper paperwork
and documentation.

Speaker 6 (02:01:10):
To own the raccoon.

Speaker 4 (02:01:12):
The post continued, but at all is facing facing several
drug charges and one sided for her driving under suspension. Quote.
While our officers are trained to expect the unexpected, finding
a raccoon holding a meth pipe is a first. No
raccoons were heard or injured in this incident, and as always,

(02:01:34):
we remain committed to keeping our community safe. Surprizes may
come our way. It is legal to own a raccoon
in the state of Ohio of courses with proper paperwork,
and permits to learn more about what exotic pets you
can own in Ohio. That's funny that that's in the story.
Click here you can find out what you can own

(02:01:55):
an Ohio from the story. Apparently can own couches, oh yeah,
and do other things with him.

Speaker 5 (02:02:07):
Uh So the video is really maybe some of the
best bodycam footage I've ever.

Speaker 4 (02:02:14):
Seen, Like, yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 (02:02:16):
The cop kind of like pulls her out of the car,
you know, he's like, come with me, you know, we
we we have you know, you're under suspension whatever.

Speaker 5 (02:02:23):
And then he just sort of like walks back over
to it.

Speaker 4 (02:02:27):
And the raccoon is in the driver's seat. I feel
like the.

Speaker 3 (02:02:31):
Driver's seat now the car is full of stuff and
trash and whatever, and and the raccoon is sitting there
and the cop is like, oh, he's got a meth
pipe and he and he goes to like taking away
from him, and uh and I guess the driver's friend
or or somebody comes over and it's like, here, I'll

(02:02:54):
get it from him. You know, he might bite you.
And he goes, no, no, no, you won't. That's evidence
you can't touch. And he's laughing the whole time. And
he's like, come here, and he and he takes the
pipe right and he puts it on top of the
car and then he looks back and there he goes
he's got another one, and the raccoon had another mad
pipe and then the cop he goes he's trying to

(02:03:17):
smoke it, and the cop is laughing. He can barely
contain himself, and he's like, no, no, no, little guy,
come here. And he takes it, and the Raccons just
like here, here you go. And he just takes it
from him and he's like, you can't have that, and
the Raccons like, okay.

Speaker 6 (02:03:35):
I'm just saying from the people who made what was it,
Cocaine Bear?

Speaker 3 (02:03:39):
Is that? Wasn't that the big movie?

Speaker 4 (02:03:41):
Yes, theref coon coming soon? Who stars in that? Oh god,
I just who doesn't.

Speaker 5 (02:03:58):
I know?

Speaker 4 (02:03:59):
Let me be quiet. I don't have I didn't say that.
I've already said too much.

Speaker 3 (02:04:03):
Meth Coon starring the Dave Chappelle crackhead character.

Speaker 4 (02:04:08):
Right, I mean the Tyrone what was his name, Yes,
Tyrone Bigghams. Yeah, No, they're not we know where hell
we're casting from that West Virginia.

Speaker 5 (02:04:21):
Yeah, but if it's if it's the meth coon.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
It can't be mm hmm, Like, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:04:28):
We'll see.

Speaker 3 (02:04:30):
Who knocked that out of the park would be like, uh,
you know Leo, not the pope, the the one that
likes the kids.

Speaker 5 (02:04:39):
Wait, no, how do you tell them abouart?

Speaker 6 (02:04:41):
Oh god, ship.

Speaker 4 (02:04:44):
Wow. Maybe we should end this.

Speaker 3 (02:04:46):
Yeah, we should end this, but we do need to
speaking of sexual deviance. Uh not just DiCaprio, Brian, We
need to ask you about this. This thing your beloved
Ravens released, not rape, is justin Tucker?

Speaker 4 (02:05:01):
Hold on? Can I get the quote of the release.
This is insane?

Speaker 5 (02:05:07):
Go ahead, read read the quote. We don't care how
good this guy is at kicking. He's gotta go.

Speaker 4 (02:05:15):
Is this it? Oh no, these are the allegations one
second of Philip philippusman NFL dot com. Do you have
it here? It is insane? All right? This comes from
the great organization. To be honest, the Baltimore Ravens have
usually done things you know, right outside and when it

(02:05:35):
comes to these domestic violence.

Speaker 5 (02:05:39):
And ray don't do well on the ring.

Speaker 6 (02:05:43):
All right, here we go.

Speaker 1 (02:05:45):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (02:05:46):
Sometimes football decisions are incredibly difficult, and this is one
of those instances. What they our current roster, we have
made the tough decision to release Justin. Tucker created any
significant and unforgettable moments in raven history. His reliability, focus, drive, resilience,

(02:06:07):
and extraordinary talent made him one of the league's best
kickers for over a decade. We're grateful for Justin's many
contributions while playing for the Ravens. We sincerely wish him
and his family the very best in this next chapter
of their lives. It is insane that they first of

(02:06:28):
all said that they were releasing him football decision number one,
because okay, I just don't say that, just say you're
releasing him. Yeah, but yeah, I'm sorry. Let me let
the resident. I just that statement stood out to me
when I first read it, and I was like, oh, wow,
y'all really don't do this.

Speaker 5 (02:06:46):
Well, that's that's insane.

Speaker 3 (02:06:50):
It doesn't be clear of what he's charged or like
the allegations he's the new nasty man, ye, the Deshaun
Watson move of essentially, and uh.

Speaker 5 (02:07:05):
That they're like, this was a difficult decision.

Speaker 3 (02:07:08):
That's not usually a set of words you hear around
people who are accused of sexual misconduct.

Speaker 4 (02:07:13):
It's a release for a release.

Speaker 3 (02:07:15):
Oh so, Brian, as a as a devoted fan, you
are uh and I assume fan of Justin Tucker not
just for his kicking, but also for his uh opera
and uh and and skills uh and his is uh endeavors.
Let's call it. What what do you think of this

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whole scenario?

Speaker 22 (02:07:44):
Once the Ravens drafted a kicker, I knew his time
was up, So I felt like it was mind you,
you know, I know you test you would laugh at
the statement. But when I read this statement, I felt like,
because you mind you, the investigation is still going on,

(02:08:06):
so then there's no NFL final decision on everything.

Speaker 10 (02:08:11):
So but I believe that.

Speaker 22 (02:08:16):
Based off of that statement, especially in the last couple
of years, Justin Tucker hasn't really been the same. And
I just felt like, you know, it was you know,
like I said, once they drafted Loop, I was like, yeah, okay,
I think they're gonna drave. I knew they were gonna
release them.

Speaker 3 (02:08:37):
So I think that the allegations are not true, or
or even if they are, they're not like a big
deal or what How do you feel?

Speaker 9 (02:08:45):
I mean, I mean, I was surprised.

Speaker 8 (02:08:48):
I mean, as a.

Speaker 22 (02:08:51):
Person who's embraced the community like he has. I mean
just in a weird way. I mean, I don't want
to go compare him to you know, you know, Jared
the Subway guy, but I in a way he was like,

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I will give you sort of like a proper comparison
based off of the how his appearance looked in the
last especially since these allegations came up. I'm reminded of
if you remember the the mayor of College Park who
got convicted for child pornography and stuff like that. I

(02:09:33):
used to, you know, I worked with the College Park
City Council and I you know, like months prior before
the allegations came out, he was clean cut, everything was
looking fine and all that stuff.

Speaker 4 (02:09:45):
And then.

Speaker 9 (02:09:47):
I don't know, before I.

Speaker 22 (02:09:48):
Before I even even heard about the allegations, like one
one session, I seem like Beard, I mean.

Speaker 9 (02:09:55):
He got like a ten hour clock shadow type of thing.
He was just ragged. And that's what Justin Tucker looked like.

Speaker 22 (02:10:02):
He looked like he was going through some stuff, and
that's what he was like, missing all these kicks, and
all of a sudden, I was like, that was wrong
with this dude. And I always and I've had these
conversations with you know, with football people, and they keep
looking his Oh man, what's going and it's like he
just needs to get out of his head whatever is
going on with him.

Speaker 5 (02:10:22):
He needs Yeah, he needed to do something with one
of his heads like that.

Speaker 3 (02:10:26):
Again.

Speaker 22 (02:10:26):
I know you're going to go there, but yo, but honestly,
it was like, there's he just needs to kick and
just focus on that.

Speaker 9 (02:10:35):
And last end of the season he did.

Speaker 5 (02:10:39):
But yeah, I kicked. Do you think do you think
that that part of what made him such a steady kicker.

Speaker 3 (02:10:47):
And like so automatic for all those years was the
uh let's call them releases that he was getting.

Speaker 5 (02:10:54):
I don't know, because maybe once he got caught and
he had to stop going there or.

Speaker 9 (02:11:00):
Do that again again. I I don't know.

Speaker 4 (02:11:04):
I look at it, but I look at I mean,
look at Tiger Woods. I looked. There's a lot of
these people who I don't know very but yet.

Speaker 22 (02:11:15):
But the thing is, it's like we hear the allegations,
we never hear the person who's being alligated by so
and justin he's clearly says like these are all false.
He's and he's like, mind you again, it's the are
moved to say I'm innocent.

Speaker 9 (02:11:33):
I'm you know, I'm gonna prove my inno sense. Blah
blah blah blah.

Speaker 6 (02:11:36):
I get that right, they all can't be lying.

Speaker 22 (02:11:38):
Yeah, So but here, I I just felt like for
for what the Raven's done. You know they've done this before,
you know, with the Ray the Ray Rice situation. I
think Here's like, look, it was hard because again, Justin
Tucker's everyone loves Justin Tucker.

Speaker 9 (02:11:58):
Here's I mean, he seems like a cool dude.

Speaker 22 (02:12:01):
And it's like he's the type of guy you you
can bring to a black, black couple's barbecue.

Speaker 9 (02:12:06):
I mean he's just a cool dude.

Speaker 3 (02:12:09):
Yeah, and you seem anywhere. I mean it's if you
just go by like what kind of jerseys people you
see people wearing, right, it's a very common people. You know,
It's like Lamar and Tucker and like.

Speaker 22 (02:12:27):
If you if you go by the number the dollar
numbers of jersey sould Raven jersey sold. He's roughly like
top three, yeah, because because he's you know, that's who
he is.

Speaker 5 (02:12:42):
I mean, he's been there a long time.

Speaker 22 (02:12:44):
But you know what I mean, I mean, he won us,
he won, he won us a super Bowl. Yeah, literally,
you know, thanks to him and his kick. I mean,
he's beaten the Detroit Lions twice with.

Speaker 4 (02:12:57):
Kicks. Why couldn't you just continue to beat stuff? Why
did he have to Why did he have to keep
leaving some of it out on the field. Jesus is
clear in all of these ones. And I know these
allegations and nothing's been proven. So there's a few things
right here. One, I think this is a power thing

(02:13:19):
that all these oh for sure end up doing and
exercising their power on people who are really helpless in
those situations. And again if it's not, if it was
one allegation, then that's fine. I forgot where we're at.
I know we're somewhere above ten. I want to say, yeah,
it's a lot, it's a lot. Yeah, so there, I
mean at that point, I just don't get yet in

(02:13:41):
court a public opinion no matter what. Like, I don't
think all ten of those people are going to go
out there and say that if it did not happen,
I think the Ravens easily could have. And this is
the tell for the Ravens, right. I haven't seen any
tribute video come out. I've been watching for that.

Speaker 22 (02:14:01):
Lamar retweeted saying, like you'll miss him, but yeah, there's yeah, yeah,
there's there was just a simple you know, thank you.

Speaker 4 (02:14:11):
You know they could have said first because also to
let's be honest, I know he's a great kicker, but
he's the kicker, right he doesn't even get hick like he's.

Speaker 22 (02:14:20):
Not even But here's the okay, okay, this is what
you don't watch a lot of Ravens football, and he's
been supporting a bad team for the last twenty years.
Justin Tucker doesn't he gets into things and not what
you're thinking, meaning the fact, meaning the fact that's like
this boy can go in there and if he needs
to tackle the punk returner or the.

Speaker 6 (02:14:42):
Cover football has.

Speaker 4 (02:14:44):
Wow, maybe I have been going for too long because
I don't know when we started, when we started just
getting love.

Speaker 6 (02:14:49):
And talking about.

Speaker 4 (02:14:52):
Yeah the hell's going on?

Speaker 9 (02:14:53):
Yeah, Justin, Justin, Justin Tucker.

Speaker 22 (02:14:57):
He is I mean sadly that there's not a lot
of Hall of Fame tickers, even though we say, oh,
he's Hall of Fame quality. Yeah, there's a there's a
lot of kickers that we've known through the years that
should be in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (02:15:09):
By now he wasn't a creeper. Tuckers is showing for
the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 9 (02:15:13):
I mean he asked the NFL record for the longest
field goal.

Speaker 3 (02:15:17):
Yeah. Until until these allegations came out, I think most
people I knew talked about him as the greatest ever.
They said that he was better even than Vinetieria or
Gramatica or you know that era, that he was the
most the longest streak right of consecutives go yeah, yeah,
long one tip and and like he was leaving those

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streets all over and and.

Speaker 4 (02:15:42):
Sick man because sick and I'm gonna say he's sick.
And Baltimore Son has been a lot of great reporting
on this. I feel like, yeah, if this story when
I first read, I was like, oh, this is like
and it's like one of those clear things. But it's
it's clear as day. Then it's because based on what

(02:16:08):
he does, right, massages and where what he has being
the kicker not really crazy, right, right, Like that's like
the idea of him needing.

Speaker 3 (02:16:18):
These athletes need to get massages is totally reasonable.

Speaker 6 (02:16:23):
That that is reasonable.

Speaker 4 (02:16:24):
Yeah, but the death's kind of like your like thing
on the side is just downright disgusting. I just I
like I have I think there's a human shaan all
of these people nasty, nasty man.

Speaker 3 (02:16:38):
It's weird too, because like weird if you think about
it from from an athletic perspective, right, like the trainers
that they have, you know, when you see them running
out on the field, like the trainers checking them out,
you know, like then and you know, does does your
arm hurt when we do this or whatever? Like there's
nothing uh personal about it. It looks very mechanical like

(02:17:05):
it is. It's like bringing your car to the mechanic, right.
The mechanic isn't cuddling the car while it checks the
caliper on the on the breaks. It's like the mechanic
he's just there to like do a job and get
that thing operating as best as possible. If what you
need is like massage therapy for a muscle that is

(02:17:29):
having trouble or twitching or whatever. That I think that's
why those thera guns exist, right, Like the people who
were and these people are professionals.

Speaker 8 (02:17:39):
That they're professionals.

Speaker 9 (02:17:40):
I mean, you're going to a professional and I, like
I said.

Speaker 3 (02:17:45):
If I was at that level, I wouldn't want to
go to a place where they like set the mood
and have feelings. I would want to go to a
place that is sterile and clinical to like get the
muscles working and then and get out of there because
I need to go back to training, right, Which.

Speaker 22 (02:18:03):
Again I I that's why I feel like, Okay, we
need clear answers. I I mean, I know, you know
the court, you know of public opinion does not help
in this whatsoever, But I feel like without proper answers,
I mean, it's all we here is It's like we

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have allegations. Okay, you know the person he's being alligated
is saying he never did it, and it's like, okay,
then we wait and I'm kind of like, okay, and
we always were going to over speculate what the hell
happened in there? Mind you, I do agree to fact
what you're saying. It's like you're going to supposedly go
into a professional setting and then.

Speaker 9 (02:18:45):
Somehow this happens. I mean, at what point in time
that it's like, let's.

Speaker 6 (02:18:50):
Keep it, let's keep it a stack here, it's a
professional setting. Why the hell is your meat getting hard there?

Speaker 4 (02:18:55):
Right?

Speaker 22 (02:18:57):
Surprised enough you don't think about it, mind you. I've
never been to any of this, but a lot of
what what a lot of what a lot of what
there is there is that overt stimulation that causes that.

Speaker 4 (02:19:14):
Okay, let's say that you apologies on that. Let's let's
just again, I apologize that that is happening.

Speaker 6 (02:19:23):
Let's stop for a second.

Speaker 5 (02:19:26):
I guarantee it's never happened to me at the doctor.

Speaker 6 (02:19:30):
That's right, is exactly.

Speaker 4 (02:19:32):
It's just like, oh god, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 3 (02:19:39):
I had.

Speaker 4 (02:19:43):
Also doesn't.

Speaker 5 (02:19:45):
I mean, I don't like other people touching me.

Speaker 4 (02:19:47):
That.

Speaker 3 (02:19:48):
That's so if I was doing it anyway like it
would be to get something fixed. I have had to
do PET for various injuries, but it hasn't been like
that extensive. And you know, I let them stretch me
where they had to stretch me or whatever, and then
I was like, all right, give me the exercises. I
can go home and do this like I didn't want to, Like.

Speaker 6 (02:20:10):
You have to like again, because that's setting even in
like I guess a regular miss like like if it.

Speaker 4 (02:20:17):
Was less clinical and more like for soothing, and it's
still like kind of like.

Speaker 6 (02:20:25):
It's not like that type of stuff.

Speaker 22 (02:20:28):
But my thing, My thing is it's like I feel like,
why have a woman messuse? Why not get a male
messeuse to do?

Speaker 4 (02:20:41):
Yeah?

Speaker 22 (02:20:41):
I mean because honestly that I think, you know, after
these two instances, you know, I feel like it would
come a point in time where I think it's like
if you're going to if you are a professional athlete,
it's just athlete, and you're going to have these physical
therapy sessions and especially that you know, in connection to

(02:21:04):
massage and stuff like that, I think you'll, Yeah, they
were going to enforce the fact is like it has
to be a male on male maseuse to do that from.

Speaker 3 (02:21:14):
This point, or maybe it should be mechanical, you know,
maybe there shouldn't be any physical contact between them.

Speaker 6 (02:21:20):
Is so crazy, This is because we can trust men.

Speaker 8 (02:21:23):
Yeah, change.

Speaker 4 (02:21:28):
Crazy. It's living because it's nasty.

Speaker 5 (02:21:32):
Imagine going to school.

Speaker 3 (02:21:34):
And learning all of the things that you need to
learn to become a massage therapist, and especially like you
know that level of one, learning everything about the way
human physiology and how the muscles and tendons and everything
connects so that you can be the most effective to
deliver the kind of you know, treatment that people need.

(02:21:56):
And all of that, and then somebody's like, hey, look
at I did like crazy.

Speaker 9 (02:22:03):
It's the sad part about all this, the years that
was going on. It was he was married. Really threw me,
and that threw me a big way. It was just like, dude,
your wife is beautiful.

Speaker 12 (02:22:21):
What the hell are you doing?

Speaker 4 (02:22:24):
Understand A then weird kink man?

Speaker 6 (02:22:25):
That's and like ain't they and also to ain't there
like those type of massage places.

Speaker 9 (02:22:32):
Yeah, the unfortunately that's the one thing you never craft.

Speaker 5 (02:22:40):
He was on the Patriots, it would have been part
of the payroll.

Speaker 4 (02:22:46):
Anyway.

Speaker 9 (02:22:47):
Like I said, it's sad to see him go, and I.

Speaker 5 (02:22:50):
Hope you know you're you're the most ravens person I know.

Speaker 4 (02:22:54):
And not sad. Doors to prove it. Get his nasty
as out of here, right, give us go tuck her
in away somewhere.

Speaker 25 (02:23:05):
Yeah, sorry, come come now. Oh all right, I'm not
gonna try to top that. Nope, nope, not touching that
with an eight inch pole. All right, you hear the music,
which you means we've come to the end of the show.

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