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September 5, 2025 118 mins
Mayor Bowser has invited the federáles to stay for an indefinite period, so why not come hang out with us! We talk about Trump losing in court more than usual, Epstein victims testifying, and of course the ongoing occupation of DC. Plus some NFL, soccer, and plenty of bad jokes!

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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(00:28):
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last the most importantly, love your king like your king,
you queen like queen, y'all, Love eachause like nobody told
y'all yesterday.

Speaker 2 (00:44):
Love y'all man, we love y'all. Please them.

Speaker 3 (01:59):
It's way after nine thirty on a Thursday night and
you're tuned into Beltwait Radio and beyond, which can mean
one and only thing. There's the tip Chat, watching the
chip Chat. Everybody, I'm chip You just told him. Happy NFL, sir,
Happy NFL.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
We are we are here. I'm back. I'm fully back
right now. I have a fantasy team. Shout out the
trumble h in his league. I'm I'm in the I'm
in the Rip Radio league, which is crazy. It's the
most I've ever done part of Rip Radio ever.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
Yeah, finally involved with the group.

Speaker 4 (02:43):
Oh yeah, obviously goddamn Spitting Birds is out there right now.
Goddamn Cowboys.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Anyways, I was trying to explain to somebody today about
like what terrible people the Eagles fan base is, and right,
and then right out the gate, they they absolutely lived
up to it.

Speaker 4 (03:09):
It's they are a fan base the actual player.

Speaker 3 (03:13):
The players are degenerate like and and some of these
guys were like upstanding good people prior. So it's it's
definitely really that causes that is.

Speaker 4 (03:25):
By the city. So yeah, that's going on right now. No,
I do have a Dak Prescott starting in my fantasy team.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
So I saw a post today that said that the
league had sixteen black quarterbacks starting this week. Yes, and
that the NFC East of course our division has all
has four black quarterbacks. But I feel like, you know,
that's not really a thing to say, because it's not

(03:57):
fair to call Dak Prescott a quarterback.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
You know, it's funny that you mentioned that point around
black quarterbacks. There's probably if you'd have told the seven
year old or like eight year old me that this
would be the NFL one day, I would have laughed
at you because for a long time, I mean, right then, yeah,
the black quarterback is that's something matter, that's I can imagine, Yeah,

(04:24):
you get, I can imagine people watching it now or
if you're growing up with football now, it's just like, oh, yeah,
it doesn't matter if it's Kyler Murray or Lamar Jackson
or James Daniels or any like it hurts Patrick Mahomes
like all of Like, it's just oh, they're just there.
When it's like I had to make excuses for black

(04:44):
quarterbacks who were not good because you just couldn't be
out there talking bad about you.

Speaker 3 (04:49):
Allowed to say something bad about Randall Cunningham and Randall Cunningham.

Speaker 4 (04:52):
Right, it's what's Who's one? Like I don't know what
no like, but those are.

Speaker 5 (04:59):
Those are great for the Hall of Famers.

Speaker 4 (05:02):
Yeah, like the ones that are like not even middling,
that are bad?

Speaker 3 (05:08):
Okay, Gino when he was on the Jets, like that
was the time when like he wasn't that great and.

Speaker 4 (05:14):
He wasn't like I don't know if he was bad.
Who's like who.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
Quarterbacks? I remember Charlie Okay, Yeah, a good example.

Speaker 4 (05:25):
That's what I get. There's a time it is okay, no, no, no, Now
there's so many black quarterbacks. I can criticize them that
I don't like when they're not playing well. And there's
a time where it was just like, I can't talk
about those black quarterbacks and Stroud sucks. You can't.

Speaker 5 (05:40):
You couldn't say that.

Speaker 4 (05:41):
Yeah, yeah, it's just so, I don't know. This is
a glorious time. That's why I'm I'm I'm a little
older than you.

Speaker 3 (05:49):
So my first recollection of Washington football glory was Doug Williams.

Speaker 4 (05:58):
Williams. Yes, it's so, and.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
So I don't think it ever occurred.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
I was totally unaware, obviously in my very young age
that Doug Williams was anything special in terms of being
the first black quarterback to win a Super Bowl or
to you know that he was one of so few.
I just knew that he was our quarterback and I
liked him and that, you know, and.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
To win it on that team is crazy. Yeah, but
it didn't occur to me.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
I didn't realize how special that was.

Speaker 4 (06:30):
Huge.

Speaker 3 (06:32):
Yeah, But then I think as a result of my obliviousness,
I don't I don't know that I really got to
celebrate like the great or the parody or whatever.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
You know that that's a moment.

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Yeah yeah, But I'm like, oh, okay, Doug Williams. And
then when like Mark Rippin won, and then when Mark
Rippin started to suck the year afterwards, and like as
SEQUENTI the team got worse through the nineties. All I
was thinking is like, we should get Doug Williams back.
And it never occurred to me that that would have
been like a really extraordinary state.

Speaker 5 (07:10):
It's just like, well, he was good.

Speaker 4 (07:13):
Football is back. I don't know if we got the
test touchdown picks what do you call it anywhere? I
don't know if that's sitting around anywhere. And I don't
have any picks right now, but you know what, maybe
I'll build some out for tomorrow's game and the rest
of the NFL. And oh my god. Also, I also
realized I'm back in for a lot of folks who

(07:34):
after the concussion shit, really threw me for a loop
early on, Like I found that to be kind of crazy.
I should never.

Speaker 5 (07:42):
Forgiven them for that.

Speaker 4 (07:43):
Now I forgive him for that one a little bit.
On that one, I mean, the rules, the rules, it's
not a safe game. It's a dangerous game, but we
don't have the same Like there's not a jacked up
segment on any fucking which is crazy.

Speaker 5 (07:57):
That is a hard thing to try to tell some
that used.

Speaker 6 (08:00):
To be when you were in to watch concussions as
a highlight reel, Like it's like sports in the top
ten players for concussions only, and it was like we
were excited for that.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Yeah, I mean that's but I was still watching, and
I mean I wouldn't. That didn't get me out of it.
But obviously the Kaepernick shit kind of threw me for
a loop and it just didn't make it just didn't
make any sense, Like it made a lot of sense,
but to watch it go down the way it did,
just I was just kind of out on the sport.
And I mean it's it's a testament to how strong
the sport is that after ten fifteen years, I'm really

(08:38):
not following the sport. I've been pulled back in.

Speaker 5 (08:42):
Man, I'm for a way back in and then and
it came right.

Speaker 4 (08:46):
Maybe maybe this show is kind of what helped it.
You know, if I'm being honest, to be honest, if
I think about joining this show and where you guys
know where I was at anybody listens to those early
whenever football season started, like I had no interest.

Speaker 5 (09:00):
Such a hater. Brian and I are like, you love it,
you just want to.

Speaker 3 (09:03):
Come back, and you're like, no, it's ethically wrong, and
we're like yeah, yeah, yeah, we think so too.

Speaker 4 (09:09):
But also, but also, here's how crazy it is because
and you guys will have Brian will destroy me for this.
I think I watched so much college football last weekend,
and I'm not I've never been a college football fan,
but now with nil and all this chaos in it,
I love it. I love it. I love that kids
are at one school and they leave and go somewhere

(09:29):
else and they're ripping all this stuff to stretch. I
know Brian is back there breaking things because I love
college football. There we go, but I am so in
on that. I bet Miami game on Sunday night Wood.
I know you hate Ohio State, but what's the name

(09:50):
of doing any favors to go in there? He pretty good?

Speaker 3 (09:53):
Well Art sucks, you know, and I anytime the SEC
loses is kind of out of conference is good because
it needs they need to be brought back to earth
a little bit. I don't like that it meant that
Ohio one. But and I don't like Florida State one bit.
But watching them beat Bama is I mean, like Bama's

(10:18):
last game was against US and the loss, and then
their first game this year is against f SU and
the loss. It's like, hey, I think Dubor sucks like
they it was all saving and yeah, and watching Belichick
get whooped.

Speaker 4 (10:34):
That was That's the one game I didn't watch because
I knew what was gonna happen there. Yeah, that's the
one I didn't watch. You want, I didn't even one.
I didn't even hate watch that one.

Speaker 3 (10:44):
Well, And and just to finish off our sports bit,
you know, we won our game. Uh, it was closer
than I wanted to. But you were supposed to like
do something before Liverpool bought the entire rest of the
league before the trade deadline, and you blew it.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
I don't agree with that. I think Arsenal as injured
as they were to go into that match and to
play the match the way they did. There's nothing to
do with that free kick, man, There's nothing not that.

Speaker 5 (11:16):
Look some side strike.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
It was so good even I thought it was a
good shot, and I hate everything about it. But Arsenal
just didn't show up the first half and that was
very disappointing. And if you're supposed to be a top
five contender, you know, it just didn't look like it there.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
Meanwhile, Everton is currently in the top five.

Speaker 3 (11:38):
I'm not going to say that this is, you know,
indication of the future of the rest of the league.
I'm just gonna say that the fact that we're right
now currently if everything stopped me in Europe, so just
that that is even a possibility to discuss is a
huge turnaround. And Grealish is key to that. So you know,

(11:58):
we're really happy to have them and all of those things.
And and I already hate Liverpool, right, there's no question there.
But like, god damn, do they need to have nine
hundred players on that team?

Speaker 5 (12:11):
Like didn't Chelsea teach anybody anything?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
What are they gonna do with all you They're gonna
get into a fight, They're gonna like ego battle, what's
gonna happen?

Speaker 4 (12:19):
I mean, it's difficult. I mean, I mean, but there's
lots of competition to play, right and if as an
Arsenal fan injury and having death, I mean, only god
knows what. Depending on I mean, Saliba out, like it's
just it's just rough over there and frigging North London
right now, Yeah, every year, and I feel like I

(12:42):
have a complainer about the injuries, but we're like soccer
is not there a right, Saliba's out, habits is out.

Speaker 5 (12:50):
Maybe you and Spurs can join together and.

Speaker 4 (12:53):
Make anyway, let's get out of the.

Speaker 3 (12:55):
Second terrible injury.

Speaker 4 (13:00):
I don't forget that. I don't care.

Speaker 5 (13:04):
North London. It would be great be the the gunner Spurs.

Speaker 4 (13:09):
And I mean, and the snatches away from him is
a huge, like even that is a win alone, and
he'll come in the form right probably Martin Ellie probably
is done or Ogad might be done as well too.
I mean he tired, he looks tired. He's obviously coming
of injury. It's just injury. Like soccer not being there

(13:30):
is huge, but hopefully, I mean, four weeks is better
than four months. So yeah.

Speaker 3 (13:35):
Yeah, And and to you know, at least in Liverpool's
case and these other teams, you know, when you're in
so many different leagues, right that death is very critical
to be able to play several games a week at
a high level to be competitive in Europe and the
League Cup and all that other stuff and still be
able to field a good team on the weekend.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
I understand why they're doing it.

Speaker 3 (13:58):
I just want to hate on them, like directly because
I hate them. Uh and and we're winning in our
new stadium, so I you know, okay with that. It
needs a better name though, Like I don't know what
we're going It's it's Hill Dickinson, but like what are
we gonna call it the Hill?

Speaker 4 (14:13):
Framily?

Speaker 5 (14:13):
More like what?

Speaker 4 (14:15):
Just like you know, the name has to come organically, Dick.

Speaker 3 (14:18):
It's gonna be the Everton one this week at the
Dick God, I think the Hill is eventually gonna see
the Hill. That'll work all right? Good now that we've
ruined the show, Thank you, Brian. Welcome to a special

(14:38):
edition of chip Chat aka Resistance Radio. We will continue
to broadcast live from a city under occupation. Muriel made
a deal which we're gonna talk about. It's, uh, we
have thoughts we'll get.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
Here.

Speaker 5 (14:56):
Well you're gonna share.

Speaker 3 (14:57):
I'm gonna share my thoughts like Trump's swollen ankles he
just won't leave, and Trump's losses.

Speaker 5 (15:06):
In court are you know, more than usual?

Speaker 3 (15:09):
This week, I did want to get to talk about
Gaza because it's getting even worse. But I don't think
we're gonna have time for that, so we're just gonna
skip past that. And you know, we're sad enough. You
know who cares going terribly. It's gonna be a resort
and it'll be great. That's fine. Everybody's fine with that.

Speaker 5 (15:33):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (15:34):
Uh, you know, So that's it's it's gonna be wild,
it's gonna be a show, and we're gonna try to
keep it short.

Speaker 5 (15:41):
We started late.

Speaker 3 (15:42):
Because we had a special special live BAM show, so
we wanna Now we're gonna take it back and make
sure that we finish on time because Brian has, you know,
stuff to do. Yeah, that sounded about right.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
We're gonna try. Okay, we're gonna do our best. Let's see.

Speaker 5 (16:00):
Do you have a word.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Thinking about it? Yeah? I gotta word. Okay, I got
a word. This is gonna work.

Speaker 5 (16:12):
Probably not all right, So sit back, grab somee It's
Dickinson time.

Speaker 3 (16:20):
You're listening to the best show, the only show, chip
Chat on Beltwegh Radio and beyond. All right, welcome back

(17:00):
to chip Jack here on Beltwegh Radio and Beyond. I'm
your's Chip with me is taz. All right, Now it's
time for some headlines.

Speaker 4 (17:08):
There we go.

Speaker 3 (17:09):
Now, I don't care which one of us goes first,
but the last one is yours and yours.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
I know, I know, I read, I read ahead. Actually
I read ahead. It's not gonna be funny.

Speaker 5 (17:24):
Want to take the first one?

Speaker 4 (17:26):
All right? Excuse me? The White House announced that they
would be giving the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Rudy.
As we know, Rudy Giuliani. Rudy plans to sell it
to cover all the bills Trump still hasn't paid him.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
That is correct.

Speaker 3 (17:43):
On Tuesday night, a judge ruled that Trump's invasion of
Los Angeles was illegal. Later, the same judge rule that
water is wet and the sky is usually blue.

Speaker 4 (17:53):
Yes, staying in Los Angeles. The Federal Guard in Los
Angeles is down to about three hundred troops, having largely
accomplished their mission of pissing everyone off. The remaining troops
will be allowed to do a few things, according to
the judge, including kicking rocks, pounding sand, and taking several seats.

Speaker 3 (18:10):
A Florida man this week called for the end to
vaccines for children, causing widespread apathy until people learned that
that Florida man is the state surgeon general.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
He's always been a fun one too.

Speaker 5 (18:24):
Heavy air quotes on the word doctor lodoppo, Yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:27):
Heavy air quotes like that other he's like that other
Florida kid who was pretending to be a doctor. I
forgot his name.

Speaker 3 (18:33):
Yeah, you pretended to be an ob o R Like
I'm a sixteen year old guy in to collegist.

Speaker 5 (18:39):
You have trust me right what? They were all into.

Speaker 4 (18:43):
It too, you know, staying in the Great State of Florida. Uh.
Coffin makers in Florida rejoiced at the new child size
market being introduced. Jesus Christ, that's rough.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (18:57):
China held a big parade where it claimed to have
been winners of World War Two, a joke that went
over about as well as an atomic bomb.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
Christ, but the God. The parade featured their newest missiles
and underwater drones and various other penis shaped weapons, all
of which were just a little shorter than the American versions.
That feels God.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Yes.

Speaker 3 (19:27):
Attending the parade where noted Trump associates Kim Jong Un
and Vladimir Putin. When as why Trump wasn't there, they
both claimed to not know him and accuse Trump of
being a war criminal.

Speaker 4 (19:37):
Oh god, the one before that. Man, you got me
hanging by a trope among the warm not invited to
the parade with Benjamin and Yahoo. But he threw himself
a party lit by the incendiary bombs he launched into Dazzler.

Speaker 5 (19:51):
Yeah, yeah, that's not great, all right.

Speaker 3 (19:56):
Saw back in here in the States, Thomas, Massey and
Roke how they press conference with several Epstein victims on
the steps of the US Capitol, which also featured a
flyover by the Air National Guard to attempt to draw
on them out. The press conference was very well attended.
MTG who was there, a remark that she hadn't seen
a crowd that large on the steps of the capital

(20:18):
since that one time in January.

Speaker 4 (20:20):
That time when they came with flag poles. I remember
the time, yes, oh yeah, and the gallo. The victims
all recounted awful stories of the abuse they suffered and
the fear they faced about naming names so we can
help them. It's Trump. Trump is on the list, somemps
on the list. He's there. He did there, he did

(20:41):
the thing. Uh. The victim Pam BONDI too, not me,
I don't tell that, Pam Bindi. Yeah, yeah, she said,
it's not me all right.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
The victims themselves said that they had compil lists of uh,
you know, perpetrators from their own experiences. So watch out
every man who was very rich and powerful in the
eighties and nineties.

Speaker 4 (21:00):
Trump called the Epstein victims who were testifying quote hoax
end quote and said that quote none of them looked
how he remembered them.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
Yes, I think he also slipped in a line of
they're not hot enough anyway. Texas is poised to allow
anyone to sue doctors and distributors of abortion pills involved
in sending the drugs into the state under sweeping new
legislation that is headed for the governor's desk. The bill,

(21:30):
backed by anti abortion activists and passed in the state
Senate on Wednesday, allows private citizens to sue companies and
individuals who manufacturer distribute abortion pills to patients in Texas.
Winning plaintiffs could get a minimum of one hundred thousand
dollars in damages, and Governor Greg Abbott is expected to
sign the legislation just as soon as he can get
the pens off the top shelf.

Speaker 4 (21:53):
Long drive for that one. Yes, in a long roll.

Speaker 5 (22:00):
The wheels kind of came off that joke about a little.

Speaker 4 (22:02):
Bit, a little bit, I petered out on a little bit.

Speaker 5 (22:07):
And take a lot of steps to get there.

Speaker 4 (22:09):
Come on, didn't take a lot of that. Sometimes need
to have a seat, all right, right. I was voted
to create a new sub committee to investigate January sixth,
a job made easier by the fact that all the
House Republicans were inside potters of the event.

Speaker 5 (22:28):
That's right. Trump said this week that he might invade
New Orleans next.

Speaker 3 (22:32):
New Orleans hasn't seen a chaotic search of wasted federal
activity like that since Katrina.

Speaker 4 (22:42):
All right, and finally SNL is changing out more than
a few cast members and writers. We had chipchat thought
about doing the same until it was discovered that there
is really only one writer here anyways. That's me.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah, right, as does everything? Send your complaints to him.
You don't like something we said, He wrote it.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
I wrote it on me. It's so funny.

Speaker 3 (23:15):
That was like the one of Larry's best things that
he would do is he would write.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Tons of stuff for the show and then act like
I had done it.

Speaker 4 (23:26):
I don't write anything for the show and we still
blame everything on you.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
Yeah, well right, but you'd be like, look, I'm just
a sidekick.

Speaker 5 (23:35):
I'd be holding the paper like you wrote this.

Speaker 4 (23:38):
No. Sometimes the glory having your name on the marquee,
you know it's right behind you there.

Speaker 3 (23:46):
All right, Well, with that, it's time to take a break,
which means that it might be time for Brian to
attack us with something we don't know. So I'm gonna
very cautious, very cautiously say we're gonna take a break
and we'll be right back. You're listening to.

Speaker 5 (24:05):
Chick chat on Beltwegh radio and be ah.

Speaker 7 (24:08):
No you go to your learning many for you and

(24:38):
another man. You let the link you want to matter.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
To you at.

Speaker 8 (24:43):
Your Yeah, yeah, you let that gout go to get
out the mooring. You know about the you.

Speaker 7 (25:02):
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Speaker 8 (25:03):
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the gott ed kom you like from that's gnisi namama
kona ya your prepam, I okay, puss boom them a you.

Speaker 4 (25:37):
You let the cat to get at them? From me?
Last looking mad? Have you many a good machia?

Speaker 7 (25:47):
Your mers?

Speaker 8 (25:52):
Did you about Joao blah blah blah about Joe Gama
gonna touch the talking about Joe blah blah blah. He's
about joke. I'm not gonna touch that. Oh my god,

(26:13):
it's that you're not gonna go to the mata a
c papboat So you're not your bahada. So you know,
my god, that you let the count the good way
to get that to look, you know, ma, Ma, the
friend that too many call Chica.

Speaker 4 (26:35):
You don't what mad You just give him the right time.

Speaker 7 (26:39):
But a lesson?

Speaker 4 (26:41):
Ok you Satso.

Speaker 3 (26:48):
Alright, alme back to chip chat here on the way
radio and behind I'm your chip with me? Is I
think I'm here, I'm here, Okay, Brian's got more music coming,
all right or something or not. I don't even know
what that was, Brian, what was that? We've disappeared. If

(27:11):
you're watching on the video and confused, that's okay, So okay,
you can still hear us, and you can still hear us,
and this is nominally a radio show.

Speaker 4 (27:19):
Nominally. Yeah, yeah, there we go. Audio medium. I think
video component, you're oh, we're If we did this directly
with no video, it would be completely different. But I
think it would be completely different.

Speaker 3 (27:36):
Yeah, at this point because we're so dependent on the
visual aspect of a lot of the things that we do.
But I think even when you started, we were still
mostly focused on the sound of it, not that we
ever sounded good, by the way, let's start there. Heavily

(27:56):
point out that we we don't do a great job
of or especially with our home rigs mine in particular,
sounding really great. That's not that's I'm not good at that.
I don't know how to do that stuff. I'm not
going to learn to do that stuff. It's just not
a thing I don't I don't care. I want to
be judged on what I'm saying, not what I sound like.
But yeah, anyway, we now have a video component to

(28:20):
the show. It's a big part of it. So that's
just how it works anyway.

Speaker 9 (28:24):
To answer your question one, the group is called Crapy
Creepy Nuts. What they are banned? Well, they are from
you know, they are from Japan. So who knows do.

Speaker 4 (28:42):
That to the Japanese people?

Speaker 9 (28:44):
Oh, we don't know where the Epstein Island is. I
don't know, well, I don't.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
Definitely the Caribbean.

Speaker 9 (28:53):
He has a network.

Speaker 4 (28:56):
I know. Bomb joking Yeah today, sorry for Japanese anyway.

Speaker 9 (29:06):
Yeah, so I do respect and love the Japanese people,
so I know. But anyway, uh, they I saw again
scrolling through Instagram and there is these mind you, if
you are familiar with the sound, it's afrobeats and I'm okay,
thank you. Yeah, so there was these uh there was

(29:28):
these black guys who were watching the video and they
were like amaze of the beats and you know, the afrobeats,
So they were like, Okay, that's cool. So I figures, like,
why not present it on chip Gen and get your
guys opinion on it? So, so what did you think
of you know, creepy nuts? Creepy nuts.

Speaker 3 (29:48):
I was confused what I was hearing because it almost
sounded like reggaeton and then like then their words. I
was like, wait, is this Brazilian or something? Because like
I couldn't understand it.

Speaker 4 (29:59):
And the visual to behind all of it seemed mixed
mix match, but which I'm just fine.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Look, you know, shout out to Brazil by the way,
since I'm thinking about them. First of all, they're hosting
an NFL game uh this week, which is gonna be exciting,
and they're gonna lock up Bolsonaro for trying to destroy
the country. So that's pretty great. Uh, they're very like
keen on that. Trump is very upset about that.

Speaker 4 (30:27):
Yeah, there's a tariff, right, I know the second.

Speaker 3 (30:30):
Yeah, he's like, we're gonna, we're gonna tear if the
ship out of you know, Americans kind of are like,
there's a few things that we as a group like,
I'm this is one that I am not in this group.

Speaker 5 (30:42):
But Americans love coffee like full.

Speaker 4 (30:46):
Stop right here.

Speaker 3 (30:47):
I mean every day they drink coffee. It's the number
one beverage all the time, every time. And most of
the coffee that the American consumer drinks comes from Brazil.
So if if Trump hadden already like attacked farmers in
America like by destroying their markets, taking away their labor

(31:09):
and uh raising their input costs, making it so that
they can't afford their morning coffee. Damn if you're occupied
by tractors next week, I don't.

Speaker 5 (31:19):
Know what's gonna take for that. But that's that's that's
like a quadruple whammy.

Speaker 4 (31:26):
What are we up to now? I don't care.

Speaker 9 (31:29):
Right, there's another big whammy. There is a weather delay
with the Eagles Cowboy game, so hopefully everyone watching that
can come over to chip chats you know, Belweit radio
and beyond, and you can see I see the DOPPL.
Game's this. Here's the funny thing. It's just rain, but wait, hold.

Speaker 5 (31:48):
On to be lightning. For it to be an actual delay.

Speaker 9 (31:51):
I have no idea because based off of what I'm
looking at the Doppler, it's not it's just right now
is the lightning is like further away? But I do
see bolts, so yeah, there's lightning, you know, but it's
like further away. Though.

Speaker 4 (32:07):
This is the football. Blessings the football I came back.

Speaker 5 (32:09):
To well right away. This is kind of.

Speaker 4 (32:13):
Cared about contacting ahead with the.

Speaker 3 (32:16):
This is this is the outcome to this game that
I wished for. Right These are two teams I hate.
The only acceptable outcome is that they get struck by lightning. Okay,
you know I'm getting close.

Speaker 4 (32:28):
This isn't Madden ninety eight, like we get it and
they just bring out the ambulance. Someone might die. So
we're not gonna hope that no one gets struck by
light This.

Speaker 9 (32:37):
Is not many, it's technical because that's what they bring out,
the ambulance. Technical.

Speaker 4 (32:41):
Yeah, techno. Challenge is so much older. They didn't madden
too early. They stole that and it used to run
over players l blitz.

Speaker 3 (32:51):
Oh god, yeah, okay, well whatever if if the people
who do control the way which isn't me can make
you know, my dreams come true. The most important thing
is that Jerry Jones survives, because he is the best

(33:12):
thing to happen to the rest of the NFC East
in a long time, being the Jerry Jones. Let's talk
about somebody sort of equally reprehensible. That's Donald J.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
Trump.

Speaker 3 (33:25):
So one of the things that we know about Trump
is that he breaks the law at a tremendous pace. Yeah,
and he does it so quickly that he's all but
challenging the legal system to kind of catch up to
him in the way that you might.

Speaker 5 (33:46):
Like if you know, you're caught.

Speaker 3 (33:48):
Eating the cookies, like, eat as many of them as
you can before your mom comes back into the kitchen
or something. You better not be eating those cookies, And
you're like, what, no, you know. So his basic operating
principle is to break all of the laws as as
quickly as possible and dare the courts to catch up

(34:09):
to him and come up.

Speaker 4 (34:11):
The system, right, which is what he learned from his
mentor right, yeah.

Speaker 5 (34:16):
Roy Cone, Yeah, delay, delay everything.

Speaker 3 (34:19):
Always try to get a continuance, Always push it down
because eventually, like it takes a long time, that the
legal system is by design, right, like deliberate, and so
in the time between when you start breaking the law
and when it eventually catches up to you, you can
fuck up a lot of stuff, or steal a lot

(34:39):
of things, or you know, hijack a lot of stuff,
or in this case, deport a lot of children or whatever.

Speaker 4 (34:47):
We'll try.

Speaker 3 (34:49):
Well, So he did, right, and he's been doing it,
but this week a lot of the chickens came home
to roost kind of all at once. So we have
two segments tonight that are all dead dedicated to Trump's
losses in court, because it's so many of them and
they're so so like daunting, that it wouldn't make sense
to try to cover them all at once.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
So the first one here that we want to talk
about is his tariffs.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
Now this is going to get a little inside baseball,
but we do need to kind of explain this. The
Constitution says that Congress, the Article one branch is the
one that can levy taxes. They have the power of
the purse, they have the power to levy taxes, they

(35:35):
have the power to do things like declare war, and
you know, the Framers set it up to where, you know,
Congress is supposed to be the most responsive to the people,
and therefore it if you really read the way the
Constitution's written, it kind of looks like the first among

(35:56):
equals in the branch, in the three branches, which is
why it comes first in the articles and in the
way that they envisioned it, and the way the founders
envisioned it, it was that right. The president's job was
to basically, you know, keep the lights on and execute
on the things, but Congress was the one that was
going to run the show. So within that right, tariffs

(36:18):
are taxes, and there has never been an authority for
the president to levy tariffs unilaterally unless specifically granted by Congress.
And there are a few instances where Congress has granted
the president the authority to levy tariffs specifically in terms

(36:41):
of specific industries in cases of national security around those
specific industries, like if you say, deemed that Japanese steel
was a risk to the way we were manufacturing tanks,
you might want to put a terriff on Japanese steel

(37:04):
to disincentivize people from using it in the supply chain,
to make sure that you know the safe American seal
is being used or whatever.

Speaker 4 (37:12):
But and remember, I think through all these stories, as
you mentioned this, every time the law that he tries
to use is something that's an emergency. So I just
as framing that there. Listen as we go through these,
remember where the actual pathway he thinks the legality of

(37:35):
all this comes from.

Speaker 5 (37:36):
Yeah, right, So let's get down to what this is.

Speaker 3 (37:42):
Why this is complicated. There are a bunch of tariffs
going on right now. Some of the tariffs that Trump
has issued are things like on steal or aluminium or whatever.
Those are not at challenge here in the courts in
the slightest. They're stupid in some cases, but they're not illegal.
They're very clearly legal. There's not like any conflict really

(38:07):
about any of that.

Speaker 5 (38:09):
What is it.

Speaker 3 (38:09):
Conflict is what he calls his stupid what he stupidly
calls his Liberation Day terrorists, the ones that he announced
when he was throwing taxes at the penguins, those ones,
and he issued those under this law that exists from
the seventies, which is called AEPA. We talked about this

(38:30):
briefly in a couple of weeks ago or maybe several
weeks ago, where it has to do with an emergency.

Speaker 4 (38:40):
Okay, and take a drink when you hear emergency, you
won't make it. You won't make it.

Speaker 3 (38:48):
It's the International Emergency Economic Powers Act of nineteen seventy seven,
and the basically says that the president can do things
to deal with and economic emergency that could happen to
the United States. And this is really around things like
oil embargoes or things like that where they're.

Speaker 4 (39:10):
Thinking about the time too, especially right in Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
That's when it was written, right right, You're talking about
things that are like acute emergency, not something that's accumulated
over a period of time and not something that you
can address over a long term.

Speaker 5 (39:27):
It's like a quick thing.

Speaker 3 (39:28):
So, for example, a thing that a president might do
in an international economic emergency is tap the strategic oil
reserves to if we're having trouble bringing oil in from
outside the country, which is not currently a problem.

Speaker 4 (39:44):
Anymore, This might be a problem again, might be a
problem again.

Speaker 3 (39:49):
But like you know, before the US became what what
the what's Trump's sword for energy dominant during the Obama administration,
I would plat out when we became a net exporter
of oil.

Speaker 5 (40:04):
Like yeah, presidents would do this all the time.

Speaker 4 (40:06):
They'd be like, oh, we're kind of a little short
on oil.

Speaker 3 (40:09):
You know, the Saudi's are playing games, like we'll tap
the reserve, okay. Or it might be something like adding
price controls to prevent gouging if there's something going on,
like you know where you know, like they're masks, you know, masks,
We need a mask, and like, okay, maybe they're coming
in from from out of the country and people are

(40:30):
jacking the prices up or whatever.

Speaker 5 (40:32):
Maybe the president would impose it.

Speaker 3 (40:34):
So that's like the thing, right, But nowhere in AIPA
doesn't mention tariffs or taxes of any kind like that Trump,
and let's not say he somebody read this to him
and told him that you could you could declare an
emergency and then just raise tariffs on everybody in defense

(40:56):
of that emergency. The emergency, he claimed, was I don't
know what the word to call it is economics.

Speaker 5 (41:04):
I mean, it's.

Speaker 3 (41:07):
Trade and balance is what he's always on about, Like.

Speaker 4 (41:12):
It isn't inherently a bad thing. Number one, Yeah, it
actually right.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
The way to think of that is like I have
a trade in balance with Giant, buying stuff from Giant,
and they don't seem to be buying anything from me.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
That's okay, it's great, that's right.

Speaker 3 (41:29):
Because I go earn my money from some other place
and then I spend it a Giant.

Speaker 5 (41:34):
That's how that works. No, no, no, I don't.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
I don't like go attack Giant and be like, yo,
you need to buy some bread from me, and Giant's
gonna be like, you don't sell bread.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
So that's what's going on, right, America buys stuff.

Speaker 3 (41:50):
We Americans buy stuff from other countries that we don't
make here, that we don't want to make here, that
we can't make here.

Speaker 5 (41:56):
Lots of things like that.

Speaker 4 (41:58):
Buying stuff.

Speaker 5 (41:59):
Yeah, because we've got all.

Speaker 3 (42:01):
The fucking money, we're certainly not trying to like buy
anything from the penguins.

Speaker 5 (42:06):
But in any case, he used this law, he declared
there to be an emergency where there isn't one. This
is gonna be a recurring theme, so just kind of
get used to this standard fascist playbook is to claim
there's an emergency. And then break the law and use
the emergency that isn't there as justification for doing it.

Speaker 4 (42:26):
So he did this. He issued these.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Tariffs and in the process fucked up the world economy
massively and took the United States it was on a
growth pattern to now we're.

Speaker 5 (42:39):
Flat maybe going into a recession.

Speaker 3 (42:42):
He created a stagflation crisis that there didn't need to
be and just wrecked everything.

Speaker 5 (42:49):
And it turns out it's not legal. None of it
was legal. We knew that.

Speaker 3 (42:55):
We talked about that on this show. Going back to
the very beginning, it's not clear that he had the
authority to do this. Well, now we know that a
federal appeals court held on Friday, like late Friday, this
broke at night on Friday, that Trump does not have
the authority to use AIPA to impose taxes on imports,
finding that the power lies squarely with Congress or within

(43:17):
existing frameworks to investigate trade and balances. If he has
a problem with the way trade's going, there's a federal
Trade Commission he can talk to. You can go talk
to the WTO, he can do he can file complaints
through the.

Speaker 5 (43:29):
WTO, or all of these other things that he could
do but he can't do this.

Speaker 3 (43:34):
The ruling is a major setback for the White House,
and it threatens to stall much of Trump's second term agenda.
Trump has described the terrorists as quote the most beautiful
as described terror sorry quote as the most beautiful word
in the English dictionary, and asserted that imposing the duties
which are most often paid by the US consumers, as

(43:56):
you know, he thinks that they come from the foreign countries.
That's not how that works. That it will make America rich,
strong and powerful. Again, it does not.

Speaker 5 (44:04):
It was a it was a pretty like solid rule, right,
wasn't What was.

Speaker 4 (44:09):
The uh yeah seven? Uh right? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (44:14):
And it was the full circuit.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
So it's this is going to the supremes, of course,
but it had gone up through the districts and and
then got to the to the circuit. I think this
was uh and it also had gone through the uh
Trade Court in New York, right, I think so yeah yeah.
So it's just like the snowball is rolling down the

(44:39):
hill on this. It's a lot of money so far
that he has that they've collected that they're gonna have
to give back. Nobody knows what the result of that's
going to be except that it's just going to be
like add another thing to the lawlessness of this.

Speaker 4 (44:55):
But I think another thing to.

Speaker 3 (44:57):
Be really keen on and to pay a lot of
attention as we address each of one of these things
is does he abide.

Speaker 4 (45:04):
By the ruling?

Speaker 10 (45:05):
Right?

Speaker 4 (45:05):
There you go?

Speaker 3 (45:06):
And I don't know how he could sort of not
do this right, Like.

Speaker 4 (45:12):
The things that get the things that get to the
Supreme Court, are they gonna where are they gonna rule?
You know, where they know that they where they lie?
If the ones that make the ones that will make
it there.

Speaker 3 (45:24):
Yeah, So this is where I think, uh, you know,
we like to play the parlor game of who's gonna
vote for what. There's obviously three justices who understand how
laws work, and so we know where they're gonna vote.
But then the question is what are the other six
gonna do? If I had to guess, which I don't,

(45:45):
but I'm gonna because it's this show, I would say
that the Supremes uphold this ruling in part because the
lower courts have all consistently ruled this same thing that
this law does doesn't give that.

Speaker 5 (46:01):
So there's there's this sort of building case law there.

Speaker 4 (46:05):
But also.

Speaker 3 (46:07):
Roberts, who wants to do as little as possible. I
think will we'll go in favor of what the district
court said or in the circuit court. I think Gorsich,
who likes to be a literalist when it comes to
the Constitution on some of these things, is going to
be like, yeah, that that's the Constitution specifically gives that

(46:30):
power to Congress. So no, And and I think ACB
is also going to go this way and maybe maybe
get bear kid bread. I know for a fact that
that neighbor Clarenson Salmon, Alito are going to be like, yeah,
Trump can do anything he wants.

Speaker 5 (46:45):
The executive is really a king, and we don't believe.

Speaker 3 (46:47):
And there are other branches of government, especially our own,
but but I think that I think that the others
are all kind of up up for grabs, and it
might even be like you know, seven to two, it
could be that. So remains to be seen. Let's see
where that goes. Ready to go to the next one.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
Yeah, one thing I realized and looking through the list,
here is one that we missed because you mentioned the
Federal Trade Commission. DCD reinstated the Federal Trade Commissioner that yeah,
some didn't have the power to claim the fire. So
that's another one that is like, again.

Speaker 5 (47:19):
More losses, but there's so many.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
There's even we don't have enough time.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
Since we wrote this show's I finished writing everything last night.
There have been more right also since that time, they've
decided to rename the Department of Defense the Department of War,
so the DoD is now the d OW, which sounds
pretty gay to me, so, you know, not great.

Speaker 5 (47:45):
And also they.

Speaker 3 (47:46):
Decided the DOJ, which I don't know how long it'll
be called, that has decided that they are gonna look
into banning transgender people from owning guns. And I don't
know where the Second Amendment guys are on that one,
but what the fuck?

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Man, Hey, where's the lobby? Get out in front, right
out there right now, because this sounds real un american.
I don't like that one. I don't like it for
a lot of reason's American.

Speaker 3 (48:19):
Yeah, in my in my most like jingoistic flag waving
America sense like no, yeah, taking guns away from trans people,
taking guns away, stop taking You don't need the rest
of the sentence, don't take guns away.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Don't do that here.

Speaker 3 (48:42):
Yeah, I thought that was the thing that we're all
starting in the capitol about. All right, moving on to
things that are also examples of ridiculous hypocrisy. The federal
government decided to punish Harvard, and specifically they're who is
a Jewish guy called Alan Garber for not combating anti semitism? Crazy, So, like,

(49:09):
just to reframe this, a bunch of non Jews told
the Jewish president of the university that he didn't care
about Jewish people enough, and the way they were gonna
punish him was to take money away from Alzheimer's research,
which made no sense. Fortunately, the Jewish judge who heard

(49:30):
the case she just happens to be, was like, this
is bullshit. US District Court Judge Allison Burrow said freezing
and canceling more than two billion dollars in research grants
and other federal actions violated Harvard's First Amendment rights and
amounted to court retaliation, unconstitutional conditions, and unconstitutional coercion. This

(49:52):
is a long ruling that she wrote, and it sort
of details like a lot of things that the administration
did that are very clearly illegal.

Speaker 5 (50:01):
Before we get into all of that, it's.

Speaker 3 (50:03):
Important to know, like the circumstances of this case, the
university Harvard and the government both decided that they wanted
a summary judgment, like right away.

Speaker 5 (50:16):
They didn't want this to go to a jury.

Speaker 3 (50:17):
They didn't want this to go like get you know,
beaten around to all the other circuits or anything like that.
They just wanted like, we're gonna put it in front
of the judge. We just want an answer, and they
both agreed to that. So that's how it went, right
and she looked at this the arguments were I mean,
you could tune in and listen.

Speaker 5 (50:36):
I did. I heard some of it.

Speaker 3 (50:38):
The administration's arguments were ridiculous, like utterly ridiculous. The judge
was asking them questions like how does taking money away
from cancer research punish the university for being anti Semitic
And the guy was like, well, you know, they're not

(50:59):
allowed to get the money and because they're not following
Title whatever. And the judges like, you know, there's Jewish
cancer patients right like they need this research too, if anything,
you know, And the lawyer was like kind of got
me there.

Speaker 4 (51:16):
It's not what it's about, right, judge.

Speaker 3 (51:25):
You know, we're real people, right, like you can just
ask us. We're not like hard to find, you know,
like just ask.

Speaker 4 (51:36):
Uh.

Speaker 5 (51:37):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (51:38):
There was also this other stuff for like all this
information where the administration openly admitted that they were retaliating
against Harvard for various things, not just the supposed anti semitism.
Some of it was like they were retaliating against Harvard
for fighting back against some of the initial things, and

(51:58):
like that's illegal. Can't retaliates. That's one of the things.
It's a lot of stuff. Burros wrote that her review
of the administration's record quote makes it difficult to conclude
anything other than the defendants used anti semitism as a
smoke screen for a targeted, ideologically motivated assault on this

(52:19):
country's premier universities, and did so in a way that
runs a foul of the APA, the First Amendment, and
Title six, She wrote, citing federal and constitutional law. It's like, guys,
you know, they're not real lawyers. That's understandable.

Speaker 5 (52:39):
Further, their actions have jeopardized decades of research and the
welfare of all of those who could stand a benefit
from that research, like some of those Jewish cancer patients,
as well as reflected a disregard for the rights and
protected the rights protected by the Constitution and federal statutes. Yeah,

(53:02):
come on.

Speaker 4 (53:02):
And again, what's the emergency here? Anti Semitism on campuses.

Speaker 5 (53:06):
It's a smoke screen.

Speaker 4 (53:08):
Smoke screen exactly, the emergency quote quotes.

Speaker 3 (53:11):
Yeah, anytime you hear these people talk about anti Semitism
as a problem, remember that they are the ones who
supported the Nazis in Charlottesville.

Speaker 4 (53:22):
Yeah, mafia supportive.

Speaker 5 (53:25):
They are the anti Semits. They are that.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
This is that nineteen eighty four thing, right, They are
the thing that they are claiming to fight against. They
they are causing election interference. When they say that they
want election integrity, they are doing the interference.

Speaker 4 (53:46):
Okay.

Speaker 3 (53:46):
When they say they want peace, they are doing the war.
When they want there to be free speech, they want
to take away your free speech. It is also everything
they claim it is. It's just a flip. It's it's
a bizarro world thing, and it is a weird thing
to hear because it's so cognitively dissonant. But you gotta

(54:07):
work through that, and you gotta be ready to hear
through that bullshit and be like, Okay, they just said
that they're taking away my right to do this. Just
be aware of that. Okay, that's two being losses. There's
like a whole bunch more. You want to take a
break before we get to like even more of these things. Okay,

(54:29):
these are complicated, so we want to, you know, gather
ourselves to get into the next ones. We're sorry, this
is boring, it's not as funny as we usually are.
But you know why start now? So we're gonna take
a break. We'll be right back.

Speaker 5 (54:42):
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All of the block.

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That's why.

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Speaker 5 (57:03):
Long back here on the way regular and your chip.

Speaker 4 (57:09):
What's propam?

Speaker 12 (57:09):
Y'all's always went back to the went back to the
oldies there, And while we go back to the oldies
and offend so many people, I always wish I was
here the day you played.

Speaker 4 (57:22):
That lovely curling. That's what you played for, right? Was
it them? We played? You know, we played the mtg
uh yes, that's what it was.

Speaker 3 (57:31):
It was in front of the women of curling God
Christ but Brian's finest moments.

Speaker 4 (57:42):
But obviously that person believes one of the more horrific
tragedies in our nation's history, which is Sandy Hook, where
we decided to you know, mow down and murder children,
their young children, elementary school children. Yeah, he believes that's
a false flag operation and a hoax, and it's not.
And the way you can kind of go ahead and

(58:03):
support that is if you go to Sandy Hook promise
dot org and smash that donate button. We you know
how I think about this, and it sounds terrible, but
I think about this kind of like you know, like, uh,
what is like carbon credits? Yeah, all right, if you don't.

Speaker 3 (58:23):
As much as you want, offset the uh the damage
we're probably doing playing those videos.

Speaker 5 (58:33):
How this works works? You know, I do that all
the time.

Speaker 3 (58:37):
You know, like I'm I'm a pretty reprehensible person in
a lot of ways. Then I give some money to
doctors without borders, and I'm wipe clean. That's the American way,
right is like write a check to make your problems
go away, exactly. That's that's what we do. Here in
the middle class.

Speaker 5 (58:58):
Okay, so we're gonna talk about some more losses in court.

Speaker 3 (59:04):
This next one is gonna this is gonna really strain
like your ability to understand how they ever thought they
could win this. But let's just talk about this for
a minute. This is about immigration.

Speaker 4 (59:17):
Now.

Speaker 5 (59:18):
Trump has been losing on immigration left.

Speaker 3 (59:21):
And right in like spectacular fashion, some of which involves
things like they're trying to sneak off with planeloads of
children to Guatemala and judges are like, hey, get the
fuck back here right now and night. A lot of
times too, they do it at night, and they do
it on the weekends. Remember the courts are a Denny's

(59:43):
or not at Danny's. What did Paul Clemens say something like.

Speaker 4 (59:45):
That, something like that. Yeah, So.

Speaker 3 (59:51):
In the seventeen nineties, you can believe in seventeen ninety eight,
so very early on in the history of the United
it stays there was a law pass called the Alien
Enemies Act, which says that if the US is at war, right,

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the government can summarily deport without any real process.

Speaker 4 (01:00:20):
Enemies. Right.

Speaker 3 (01:00:22):
So, and let's go back to the seventeen nineties and imagine,
you know, sort of what the framers could have been
thinking about. These these guys are making these laws. They
could be thinking about, oh, well, we're at war with Britain,
because that's probably who you'd be at war with in
seventeen ninety eight, and like, there's a bunch of British
citizen here, merchant marine or whatever. We're gonna round those

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guys up, put them on a boat and tow them
out to the middle of the Atlantic and tell them
to get the fuck on because we don't trust them.
We think they might be spies. So they're you know,
they talk funny like whatever, it doesn't matter. We're at war.

Speaker 4 (01:01:00):
Right, we know, in war times, because that's the emergency here,
you know, things like due process and all that stuff,
especially for foreigners, goes out the window. Yeah, and at
times then these times, and there.

Speaker 3 (01:01:11):
Have been like sort of maybe reasonable examples of that,
and then there's kind of unreasonable examples of that.

Speaker 5 (01:01:19):
But as we discussed earlier, only Congress.

Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Can declare a war, and the United States has not
declared a war or been in a state of war
since World War Two. We have done a bunch of
wars since then, but they're not technically wars. And they're
because Congress never voted to say so. And what that

(01:01:43):
really means is that like any extraordinary action that the
administration wants to take that is available to them during
a war is not available unless it's a war, right,
including the provisions of the Alien Enemies Act of seventeen ninety.

(01:02:06):
Another important part of this law, it says that the
US can act against predatory incursion or an invasion. So
you could think of like what you would think of
as an invasion, right, what's an invasion? An invasion is

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soldiers from another country come across your border and start.

Speaker 5 (01:02:31):
Taking shit like soldiers. Yeah, like what the Russians are
doing in Ukraine.

Speaker 4 (01:02:37):
That's the INSI.

Speaker 3 (01:02:39):
They came across the line with tanks and started grabbing
territory or people or children or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:02:48):
Right, that's an invasion.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
Japan sailed across the water, landed in China and was
like this is ours.

Speaker 5 (01:02:57):
Now, that's an invasion.

Speaker 4 (01:02:59):
Right.

Speaker 3 (01:03:01):
The United States government brought the US Army into sovereign
Indian territory and started taking shit.

Speaker 4 (01:03:08):
That's an invasion. Yeah, okay, now.

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Let's just say people you don't like from other countries
who aren't the army of those countries come to your
country to, like, I don't know, work at McDonald's or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:03:28):
That's not an invasion.

Speaker 3 (01:03:30):
They didn't organize themselves, they didn't throw up a flag,
they didn't march across the line, they didn't take any territory,
they didn't do any like invading, invading. They don't even
know that there's other people from their country here. They're
just like individually doing shit. Ah, that's not an invasion.
So that's now we've got two conditions of this law

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that have not been met.

Speaker 5 (01:03:54):
There's no war and.

Speaker 4 (01:03:55):
There's also no invasion.

Speaker 5 (01:03:58):
But that didn't matter.

Speaker 3 (01:03:59):
Trump was like, yeah, the fact that there's anybody from
Venezuela here is an invasion.

Speaker 5 (01:04:06):
And Manny Machata was like, whoa guy?

Speaker 3 (01:04:09):
I just played third base and and he was like
yeah right yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:17):
Trump supporter yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:04:21):
Uh and and and Trump was like I don't care.

Speaker 3 (01:04:24):
Not only do I not think you're from Venezuela because
I can't tell the difference, uh, but also all Venezuelans
are in a gang. And people were like, what are
you talking about. He's like, yeah, Fox News told me
there's this gang called uh TDA.

Speaker 5 (01:04:42):
And they're like what is that stand for?

Speaker 3 (01:04:43):
He goes, I don't know something about a train, and
then he was like, yeah, not only is this gang
here and invading our country, but they're doing so at
the direction of Nicolasoma Duro, who is the dictator of Venezuela.

Speaker 5 (01:05:06):
And everybody's like, are you sure that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:05:11):
Legal rationale you want to use to do a bunch
of like obviously criminal shit, and he's like, yes, that's
what we're gonna go with. We're gonna say that the
leader of the country is using the largest criminal element
within his country that he has been combating and is
afraid of for a long time. He is directing them.

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He's not actually afraid of them, he's not actually been
combating them. He's actually working with them, and they work
for him now. Yeah, and he sent them over here.
And also, we're gonna send the navy to like go
show up off the coast of Venezuela and shoot at
their boats and maybe with an invasion force. That's an invasion.

(01:05:58):
If the Marines stationed off the coast of Caracas land
in Caracas and take some stuff, that would be an invasion. Yeah, okay,
So that's like the background information you need now under
this guise of an invasion from Venezuela by this gang

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that is maybe now in Trump's world, the Army of
Venezuela who live in apartment buildings in Colorado.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
That's another like weird part of this.

Speaker 5 (01:06:30):
There's like whole apartment buildings under siege.

Speaker 4 (01:06:33):
Like they're walking here. It's insane.

Speaker 5 (01:06:35):
Yeah, it's like it's their pedagon.

Speaker 3 (01:06:37):
Uh So, like they've just been rounding up everybody, and
even if they're not from Venezuela, they're like, you're Venezuelan,
get on the plane. And they're like, I'm from Detroit
and they're like, don't care. You look Venezuelan and get
on the plane.

Speaker 13 (01:06:52):
And then they've been taking them to countries that aren't
Venezuela and just like throwing them all over the place,
Like some got set to Uganda, some got set to
South Sudan, some of them got sent to Salidor.

Speaker 5 (01:07:07):
Like none of these things makes any sense.

Speaker 3 (01:07:10):
And they kept doing it in the middle of the night,
and so like a lot of stuff happened. The lawyers
kind of jumped to this, and one of the things
they did was like, hey, you can't just summarily deport
people without giving them notice. You can't just like grab people,
throw them in a holding facility, give them a paper
in English three hours before you're deporting them, and explain

(01:07:34):
that to the like, they have rights, they have process.
There's like the Constitution applies to everybody. Like the Trump
people were like, no, it doesn't fuck them, we don't
care and.

Speaker 4 (01:07:42):
Put them on the plane.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
The judges kept ruling like, no, you got to do this,
and they kept just disregarding the judges' rulings and doing
this anyway, And eventually you get to this question of like,
what's the remedy. How do you undo this right if
they keep violating the judge's orders. So several versions of

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this problem start percolating up through the district courts, and
they eventually they make it to the Fifth Circuit. One
of the things that the Trump people did to try
to insulate themselves from getting busted on this is move
a lot of these detainees to holding facilities in places
that are governed by the Fifth Circuit. Because the Fifth

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Circuit is the most conservative circuit of all of the
circuit courts.

Speaker 4 (01:08:30):
In the United States. Judge yeah, but.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
At a big scale, and they specifically moved a bunch
of them to some of these districts where there's only
one judge, and it's judge that they control. But even
with doing that, they weren't able to successfully stop the
law from catching up to them. A federal appellate court
ruled Tuesday that Donald Trump unlawfully invoked a century's old

(01:08:57):
wartime law to swiftly deport venice and migrants, blocking one
of his administration's most contentious immigration initiatives and teeing up
a legal battle sure to end up before the Supreme Court.
A divided three judge panel of the Fifth Circuit in
New Orleans rejected Trump's use of the seventeen ninety eight
Alien Enemies Act to remove allegend members of the Venezuela

(01:09:20):
Base Trended Aragua Gang, concluding that their presence also, a
lot of these people aren't in that gang, and so
it's just like clear about that, concluding that their presence
in the country did not amount to the type of
invasion or quote predatory incursion lawmakers envisions when they drafted
the statute.

Speaker 5 (01:09:38):
The two to one ruling was like pretty clear. However,
the one.

Speaker 3 (01:09:45):
Who voted to like uphold it had this incredible thing
that he said in his descent Judge Andrew S.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
Oldham, What a great name, Big old Andrew Oldham. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (01:09:59):
Andrew Oldham criticize his colleagues for quote second guessing the president.
He argued that the ruling quote contravenes over two hundred
years of legal president and concluded that heads of states
should be granted wide latitude to determine what justifies appropriate
use of the law. For President Trump, however, the rules
are different, wrote Oldham, who was a Trump appointee. He

(01:10:21):
said that the judges were acting as robe crusaders who
get to play act as multitudinous commanders in chief. Okay,
that's a stark thing to say.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
When the head of states should be granted wide latitude
to determine what justifies the appropriate use of law. I thought,
it's the whole purpose of having judges in the judiciary.

Speaker 3 (01:10:43):
It does seem like that, because remember when they were
all up in arms about DACA or anything else where
a president had used wide latitude and not even wide
latitude like legally cleared latitude to do thinks these same
people are so nakedly lying and hypocritical about this stuff.

(01:11:04):
Oh well, we can't you know, we can't second guess
a president.

Speaker 5 (01:11:08):
Motherfucker.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
You spent the entire Biden administration claiming everything he did
was illegal. You you thought that Obama wearing a tan
suit was unconstitutional?

Speaker 4 (01:11:19):
What the fuck?

Speaker 5 (01:11:20):
Man, what the actual fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 4 (01:11:24):
That was the news fucking the news fere.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
It was like two to three weeks that it's crazy
wide latitude. What what fuck out of here? So, yeah,
the judge they know this is going to go to
the Supremes. It's got two places it can go. One
is it can go to the full fifth Circuit or
can go straight to the Supremes. I think they've already
appealed it up to the Supremes, and I think this

(01:11:48):
is one of the ones that know the tariff is
the one that they asked for like a quick hearing
on and they want like an answer by November or
something like that, which cool. I mean, good luck telling
the Supreme Court.

Speaker 5 (01:12:00):
They're gonna do. They do whatever the fuck they want.

Speaker 3 (01:12:03):
Clearly, Yeah, uh okay, here's this more detailed bit about immigration.
Federal judge on Friday temporary blocked the Trump administration from
carrying out speedy deportations of undocumented migrants detained in the
interior of the United States. The move is a setback
for the administration's efforts to expand the use of the
Federal Expedited Removal Statute to quickly remove some migrants in

(01:12:27):
the country illegally without going before judge first. So the
way the law is written is if they catch you
within one hundred miles of the border or within two
weeks of having arrived here, they can basically quick the
portcha and say like go back and try again. And
under Biden, that happened a lot. It happened so frequently

(01:12:48):
that many people kept like crossing back in and so
it was inflating the numbers of how many people had
made illegal crossings because it'd be like the same person
making the same making the cross saying like four times
in a month, and you know, they got you three
back and it's like fishing, right, just literally throw them

(01:13:09):
back back to Mexico. And then so the Trump people
were like, oh, well, if we can do that within
one hundred miles of the border or within two weeks,
we can just do it wherever and whenever, Like grab
people have been here twenty years and be like, yeah,
we're summarily deporting you back without doing the thing.

Speaker 5 (01:13:24):
We're called it expedited. Whatever the fuck?

Speaker 3 (01:13:27):
Judge is like, hey, man, y'all know how to read,
and they're like fifth no readings for nerds? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
So.

Speaker 3 (01:13:37):
US District Judge Gia Cobb in Washington, DC heard of
that place, suggested that the Trump administration's expanded use of
the expedited removal of migrants it's trampling on individual's due
process rights.

Speaker 5 (01:13:49):
I'm shocked. Are you shocked?

Speaker 2 (01:13:52):
Wow?

Speaker 5 (01:13:53):
Right?

Speaker 3 (01:13:53):
Quote in defending this skimpy process, I like that it's
already off too good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:13:58):
We're gonna We're gonna skimpy. Yep.

Speaker 3 (01:14:00):
The government makes us a truly startling argument that those
who entered the country illegally are entitled to no process
under the Fifth Amendment, but instead must accept whatever grace
Congress affords them. Cob wrote in a forty eight page
opinion forty pages issued Friday night, where the right this

(01:14:22):
is furthermore from the opinion, were that right. Not not
only non citizens, but everyone could be at risk because
you know why, bother to follow rules of the Constitution.
The Department of Homeland Security announced shortly after Trump came
to office that it was expanding these of expedited removal
and then you know, the ACLU was like whoa wait

(01:14:44):
a minute, hold on, and they went to court and
like immediately the judges are like, you need to not
do this, and then again they just did it anyway.
So again we're at this question of like, you keep
doing the thing even after a judge tells you you
can't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:15:04):
What is the remedy to undo it?

Speaker 3 (01:15:06):
And I think that that is really going to get
to the to the supremes at some point, that that
is going to be a thing that matters, because the
foundational principle of our legal system is that you can remedy, right,
And the reason you put an injunction.

Speaker 5 (01:15:23):
In place or you.

Speaker 3 (01:15:25):
Stop something from happening in the immediate course is because
there's a reparable harm that could be done. You might
do something so bad that you can't undo it after
the fact. Well, here we have basically seen this in
real time. They keep doing irreparable harm and not facing
any consequence for it. I don't know where that goes,

(01:15:48):
but it don't go to the.

Speaker 4 (01:15:51):
Ice cream shop.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
No, So yeah, let's see Cobb didn't question the constant
tutionality of expedited removal in general, the order said it
merely holds that in applying the statue to a huge
group of people living in the interior of the country
who have not previously been subject to removal, the government

(01:16:14):
must afford them due process.

Speaker 5 (01:16:16):
This is the most basic thing. You can't just railroad people.

Speaker 4 (01:16:21):
Even if you're just if you're here as a citizen
inside the United States, there are laws that protect everyone.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
Yeah, and this kind of thing shows up a lot,
Like you see this stuff about the census. They're like, oh, well,
we're going to count only the people we want to count,
Like the fourteenth Amendment says you have to count all
of the people.

Speaker 5 (01:16:44):
Some of these things are just blatantly clear. The Fifth
Amendment entitles everybody to do process. It does not say
this applies only to American citizens. No part of the
Constitution says stuff like that.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
So where are they getting this from, I mean, like
thin air and then making it up.

Speaker 4 (01:17:02):
They're making it up I mean again, or they use
this these fake emergencies, right, and yeah, it's in that.
It's they're they're hoping that they present a case where
the judiciary interprets their version of the law differently than
how the law should be or how it's been interpreted forever.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
Okay, let's let's just think about that for a second.

Speaker 3 (01:17:30):
So I work in an industry where like emergencies happen, right,
I'm working in facilities, I'm running a building. Right, there
are times where there are emergencies. So let's take an
example of like the fire panel. The rules are if
I'm going to turn the fire panel off for some reason,

(01:17:51):
like I'm going to test something, right, I have to
file some paperwork, and I have to get approval, and
I have to get permission, and I have to notify
by the county and I got it.

Speaker 5 (01:18:01):
There's like a lot of steps involved in doing that.

Speaker 3 (01:18:05):
Of course, if there's an emergency, right then it's you know,
we can do it afterwards.

Speaker 5 (01:18:13):
That's that's just how that works.

Speaker 3 (01:18:14):
And an emergency would be something like you know, a
car came crashing through the side of the building for
example or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:18:22):
Right that that'd be like a real emergency.

Speaker 3 (01:18:24):
Okay, what isn't an emergency is CHIP forgot to file
the paperwork.

Speaker 5 (01:18:29):
Yeah, and now we've got a.

Speaker 3 (01:18:30):
Test scheduled, and so I can't just walk down there
and be like, Hey, can we just pretend it's an
emergency so I can do this and not follow the rules.
Answer is no, you can't do that. So how do
these guys think that you can. I mean, that's like
very obvious, right, you'd think.

Speaker 5 (01:18:53):
I don't know. I'm not a lawyer.

Speaker 3 (01:18:55):
Okay, this one hears about the National Guard in California.
Judge has blocked Donald Trump's deployment of the National Guard
in California based on quote, an ongoing risk that the
president will act unlawfully shocking woo. The US District Judge
Charles Bryer in San Francisco wrote September two that Congress

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was clear in eighteen seventy eight when they passed the
Posse Comitatus Act that lawmakers prohibited the use of using
the US military for domestic law enforcement. He also ruled
that there was no rebellion when Trump deployed the National
Guard and Marines to la in June, ostensibly to quote
Quella rebellion and ensure that immigration law was being enforced.

(01:19:40):
Brior cited plans by Trump and Hegseeth to expand the
Guard deployment to Oakland and San Francisco and other states.
Across the country quote, yet there was no rebellion, nor
was civilian law enforcement unable to respond to the protests
and enforce the law. The evidence at trial established a
defendants systematically used armed soldiers, whose identity was often obscured

(01:20:04):
by protective armor and military vehicles, to set up protective
perimeters and traffic blockades, engaged in crowd control, and otherwise
demonstrated a military presence in and around Los Angeles. In short,
defendants violated the Positi Comitatis Act. This is going to
be important because as Trump continues to threaten to deploy
the Guard in places.

Speaker 5 (01:20:26):
That don't want it there, or haven't asked for.

Speaker 3 (01:20:28):
It, or aren't experiencing any kind of an emergency where
it would be relevant, this here sets an important precedent. Okay,
the Guard wasn't arresting anybody. They weren't like performing traffic stops.
They weren't out there doing core law enforcement activities like

(01:20:50):
eating donuts or something. But they weren't doing things that
are part of law enforcement, like setting up perimeters or
funneling traffic to places where the law enforcement could then
run the checks. That is an expanded understanding of law enforcement,

(01:21:11):
and it does help make the argument that the guard
basically can't just be there and being like.

Speaker 5 (01:21:19):
Support quote unquote.

Speaker 3 (01:21:22):
They can pick up litter like they have been doing
here in the district, but they can't really do a
lot more. Now that only applies in this district and
only in California, and most of them have already gone home.

Speaker 5 (01:21:33):
There's only three hundred of them left.

Speaker 3 (01:21:35):
But still we're talking about precedent, we're talking about as
system there.

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
So it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:41):
Is all part of that. I just want everybody to
keep that in mind when we get into talking about
what's going on here in DC. Yes, speaking of which,
you want to talk about what's going on here in DC.

Speaker 4 (01:21:52):
Yeah. I think even just before moving on is we've
kind of recapped a lot of these losses. But Susan
Glasser puts out an article this evening and earlier today
maybe and how many court cases can Trump lose in
a single week, So, right, we just recapping like what
we did or what we were just talking through, and

(01:22:13):
also just how the judiciary right and the judges are.
I mean, we don't know where this is going to go,
and we know how these could be wins now, but
they could be losses come to Supreme Court when we
get there next year. Right, they all could end up
being lost as there. But the courts are fighting back.

(01:22:35):
And I found the last paragraph in this article reading
earlier or later before I came on the show, And
she's right, she says, I know that the courts alone
cannot save us from Trump's would be authoritarianism. If anything,
I've been struck by the faith that so many of
the President's critics have in the power of the judiciary

(01:22:55):
to curb his excesses, when history is so clear about
the power of a demigo uh to bulldoze his way
past even the most eloquent, eloquent legal rulings. But I
also know that America's tradition of rule of law is
what makes it different from Vladimir Putin's Russia or Zijingping's China.
And where where the law is, whatever the boss says

(01:23:17):
it is. John Roberts, thank you for your attention to
this matter. It's a crazy it's a crazy dismount like
obviously it's obviously is Susan Glass would do right, But
I just incredible writer. But but it is that right,
it's that all right. It does put the onus on
John Roberts come this next.

Speaker 5 (01:23:38):
Term, right, Well, but he can't be him alone, like
we can't him alone.

Speaker 3 (01:23:43):
It's got to be it's gotta be a coalition in
the middle to the extent that there is one right.

Speaker 5 (01:23:49):
But again we're at that thing.

Speaker 3 (01:23:51):
It's like, you know, the famous call the Chief Justice
has made his ruling, let's see him enforce it.

Speaker 5 (01:23:56):
So we do need you know, it's also.

Speaker 3 (01:23:59):
The the proverbial American people standing up for rule of
law that tes believes so strongly in, and this idea
that if the court's rule and they say, well, you
got to do this, and he just goes you and
what army the.

Speaker 5 (01:24:16):
Army has to be the people.

Speaker 4 (01:24:18):
Yeah, And.

Speaker 3 (01:24:21):
You know, I just based on you know, people I know,
and the kinds of people I know who are outraged
about these kind of things, I don't think a lot
of them are really like able to do that. So
I if it comes to that, that's what it's gonna
it's gonna have to be, and people need to be
kind of ready for that. If if your faith in

(01:24:44):
the judiciary is strong, if your faith in rule of
law is strong, is it strong enough to compel you.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
To enforce it on your own right or or you know, in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:59):
Is it strong enough to compel you to force it
in the face of Trump's brown shirts or whatever word
you want to use right trying to unenforce it, and
we will see. I mean, leaders need to rise, we
do need to be ready. So I just you know,

(01:25:22):
Tez always thinks I'm fear mongering about that kind of stuff,
but like you're seeing it happening in real time. Sixty
seven children were stuck on a plane and sent to
Guatemala in like contrary to the ruling of a federal judge.
And then the Guatemalans were like, what are we supposed
to do with these kids?

Speaker 5 (01:25:42):
And were are their parents?

Speaker 3 (01:25:45):
And the Americans were like, We're just not going to
take them back, Like.

Speaker 5 (01:25:51):
You want to talk about trafficking children.

Speaker 4 (01:25:54):
Right, that's it. That's the that's it, you know.

Speaker 5 (01:25:57):
So you and what are me?

Speaker 4 (01:26:00):
Just be ready for that be all you can be.

Speaker 3 (01:26:05):
And in the People's army, oh god, I don't think
we want to be the people's army.

Speaker 4 (01:26:09):
No no, no, no, no, that's communists to me for choice
of words.

Speaker 5 (01:26:15):
There where are my commune's jersey right now?

Speaker 4 (01:26:19):
Yeah? All right?

Speaker 3 (01:26:21):
We speaking of commuy's let's talk about what's going on
here in the district.

Speaker 4 (01:26:24):
Yes, oh god, so's a lot of folks may have heard.
On Tuesday, beloved Mayor Muriel Bowser had ordered indefinite coordination
between the city and the federal law enforcement officials that
have taken over the city, which, right is just like,
as they write the story, powerful indication of her willingness
to cooperate with President Donald Trump's effort to take over

(01:26:47):
public safety in the capital system in the capital city.
So Bowser issues his executive order and quote her right
coordination obviously with the federal law enformers, quote to the
maximum extent allowable by laws within the district, which I
think is a very interesting, very important, very important sentence.
I think we should take We should take heed on that.

(01:27:08):
And again, there's no expiration date on uh this order.
I think why this is key Again, as most folks
know their unique laws that govern the federal City of Washington,
d C. But for Trump's federalization of DC's police force,
it just lasts thirty days, right, and it was set

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to expire next week, right, which is it's everybody is
going to do. Yeah, yeah. Congress said that the Congress
says that tonight, but we were getting ready for a
showdown if the if again, the Congress would have had
to either go ahead and say, hey, we approve this.
But I think, right what Mira Bowser ends up doing

(01:27:50):
it she she removes that, right, She removes the need
for a showdown by basically set this executive order, reaching
out almost to Congress and really to the executive brands
and saying, hey, we want this in a sense, right,
we are, We're gonna, we're gonna, We're gonna go ahead
and we will. You don't need to extend it because

(01:28:12):
we're making the ask from the federal right, from the
federal government now to assist us right here. So you
remove the need for them to extend it, because again
the ask has kind of been made by the actual
mayor in this case.

Speaker 5 (01:28:26):
But it's a different ask.

Speaker 4 (01:28:28):
But it's a different ask because.

Speaker 3 (01:28:30):
What the what happened with the takeover of the Police
Department is that Trump used the emergency order to take
control of MPD, right, and what Mayor Bowser is issuing
in her executive order is she's asking federal law enforcement,

(01:28:52):
which are things other than MPD that belong to the
federal government currently like Dea at f FBI Secret Service
fps all these guys. She's saying, we want you to
continue to keep up your presence and we will work
with you on that stuff, which is different from seating

(01:29:14):
control of her police force to the federal government.

Speaker 4 (01:29:18):
Yes, exactly, it's more of a for lack of a
better word, of partnership at this point, right where before
I mean again, it was a complete takeover, right.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
Yeah, and it's a deft move against this sort of
there's a policy and then there's the politics.

Speaker 4 (01:29:35):
Right.

Speaker 5 (01:29:35):
The policy is take over the police department and all
of this. The politics is.

Speaker 3 (01:29:45):
Get Democrats in general and specifically Bowser, but Democrats in
general on the wrong side of crime, claim that crime
is a problem, force Democrats to say it's a problem,
but it's not that bad, and then say Democrats don't
care about crime. You feel crime in your neighborhood, Democrats
aren't trying to stop it, and whatever. What mayor Bowser

(01:30:09):
did was like kind of flip that on in tet
a little bit and be like, yeah, crime is a
problem and we're happy to have all this help if
you guys want to be here and help.

Speaker 5 (01:30:18):
Now, she's not saying the other half, which is, if
you guys.

Speaker 3 (01:30:23):
Want to waste your time chasing it around a bunch
of people for having their seatbelts off, be my fucking guest, which.

Speaker 5 (01:30:28):
She's kind of doing that in like a roundabout way. Sure,
we'll accept your help. We're glad for any help.

Speaker 3 (01:30:34):
If it gets a few bad guys off the streets,
totally worth it.

Speaker 5 (01:30:37):
But is it really right now?

Speaker 3 (01:30:39):
She's kind of trapped them, and they're like, yeah, well
we have to dedicate the FBI to traffic stops.

Speaker 5 (01:30:46):
We can't chase after the Narco terrorists or whatever because
we got to help the mayor.

Speaker 4 (01:30:53):
Yeah, And I I know, I mean from my own
personal feelings on this, obviously you don't like it, right,
you don't. You don't want this to happen the way
it is. But I think the flip side of this,
and I think because people have already, as I've had
this conversation with folks over the week, like I'll come

(01:31:15):
off sounding like an apologist for the mayor. But what
I'll say is I am glad as hell I'm not
the mayor, to be honest, because these choices are they're
really almost drastic things that are being done to try
to protect home room and to I mean almost for

(01:31:37):
lack of like a better word, to plate Donald Trump. Right,
And I mean you could say play kate, but I
mean piqutory. I mean the player is still in the word, right,
it's play caate, but yeah, it's and right. You know,
the national tenor is different, right. I mean a lot
of these governors or mayors, right that are not necessarily

(01:32:01):
in the same predicament that Washington d C. Is. They've
approached this different. They're more combative, right, I think you,
I mean you, and I think you've watched Mariel Bowser
be more combative to Donald Trump the first term, right,
I think I was one to always say, I think
why I find her some of her policies troubling for

(01:32:21):
everyday Washingtonians and specifically the core in Washington. I do
think when it comes on a national stage, she's really
adept at actually fighting those national battles. I think what's
very interesting now and the second term is how she's
fighting these battles now. And I think you just got
to approach it differently when you don't when when they

(01:32:42):
control all three branches, right, they have all three branches
of government. Yeah, and the flip side of this to
lose home rule and that could still happen, right, Like,
I don't wanna. I don't wanna. I don't want to
gloss over like you could do all of this and
like we know how Donald Trump operates and this could

(01:33:03):
be all for not. But I do find the politics
of this to be to be very interesting. And yeah,
I mean she's really the only person built to do this,
because I do think I do think any other I
don't know, let me not say that I don't know.
I do think any other mayor, based on the field,

(01:33:27):
would be would be more on the no, we're gonna
be on defense, like we're not going to cooperate, and
I think we know where that would end up. And
I don't know that for sure, but I just find
I also also her thought process around crime in the
city and the police force. I don't think this this
difference from what she actually wants. But she's always said

(01:33:50):
that we don't have the four thousand is the number
that they're always talking about, how to beat the four thousands,
how to beat the four thousand sworn officers? Right, And
I think she looks at this and says, all right, well, yeah, no.

Speaker 3 (01:33:59):
I well, and it's free money money, so we'll let
the ATF do the work and then the people of
the district don't have to pay, which which is a
fair gamble to make. You know, this is happening where
she's making this sort of partnership with the federal government
at the very same time that the Attorney General is

(01:34:21):
suing the deployment over the deployment of the National Guard,
and specifically suing over the deployment of the DC National Guard,
which the president controls himself.

Speaker 4 (01:34:32):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:34:32):
But what Schwab is is in court saying is there
is no emergency. They're kind of tag team in this
where they're they're kind of making both points here of like, sure,
if you guys want to do it, here's the ways
you can do it.

Speaker 5 (01:34:46):
If you want to put on the show the federal.

Speaker 3 (01:34:49):
Government destroying the dangerous criminal aspect of the District of Columbia,
here's the way you can do it. But here's some
ways that you can't do it.

Speaker 4 (01:35:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:35:01):
I mean, when when this broke right, I texted you.

Speaker 3 (01:35:06):
And Brian, I was like, Bowser, will do anything to
protect home rule? And your answer was literally anything? And
I think that This is a very good example. Her
political instincts are tremendous.

Speaker 4 (01:35:21):
However, the issues I have with her when it comes
to being a politician, she's one of the better ones
I've ever seen.

Speaker 5 (01:35:28):
Yeah, she's incredibly good at this thing.

Speaker 3 (01:35:30):
And and I often think about, you know, the way
that we might talk about Bowser, you know here in
inside the Beltway as being our own you know, sort
of like politics ends at the water's edge.

Speaker 5 (01:35:47):
It's like, you know, our problems with her are about like.

Speaker 14 (01:35:51):
How she's getting the stadium, not that she's getting the site,
or like how she's building the dogs, not that cheese building,
you know, like whatever it is, and it's so minor.
Whereas if if like somebody from outside the area was like, oh,
well your mayor's are corrupt whatever, blah blah.

Speaker 5 (01:36:12):
Were like, hey, you.

Speaker 3 (01:36:13):
Don't even know like that, I don't have anything to
do with this. Very deft handling this, you know. There's
also like the fact that the numbers don't lie that
overall crime is way down over the year before the

(01:36:34):
federal takeover, and then it's down even further after the
federal takeover, which I do want to point out there's
a noticeable feel difference.

Speaker 4 (01:36:46):
Oh god in town, Oh my god. Yeah. I was
walking through Gallery Place on Friday at five o'clock, five thirty.
No one's out there, nobody's there. I went to NAT's
game Navy Yard and no one's out there there.

Speaker 3 (01:37:00):
I mean, and and the people who you really want
to talk to about this. If you're a reporter and
you're out there trying to figure out like what the
impact or how does this feel? You can talk to
the people in the neighborhood or who are going to
say something like it feels dead around here. But talk
to the businesses, talk to the people who depend on
that foot traffic, and they're going to say it is
dead out here. And the only thing I can think

(01:37:22):
of is like, there are places like Singapore where there's
no crime, And why is there no crime in Singapore
Because it's a police state and everybody is terrified, and
so they all mind their p's and q's. And it's like,
do you want to live in a place where fear
runs the show where even the law of Biden citizens

(01:37:42):
don't want to come out and go down the street
to the neighborhood coffee shop because they only get snatched.

Speaker 9 (01:37:46):
Up right I want to add, yes, I want to
go on the other group of people you want to ask,
is the National Guard.

Speaker 4 (01:37:58):
Yeah?

Speaker 9 (01:37:59):
They they I I for the last two weeks, I've
been going to work, you know at you know, outy field,
and I do see them walk by, and you know,
in their groups. You know when initially when they just
had their handguns, and now like this past weekend they

(01:38:22):
brought out their ar fifteens and stuff. They look bored.
They they it's like they're they walk around, they they
it's they know for well, it's like they could be
you know, mind you there. These are a group of
people who are only assigned for something that again, like
you said earlier, it's for special reasons. And really it's

(01:38:47):
like I'm wasting my two weekends for this ship. I
mean that, you know, that's That's pretty much what I
can tell on their faces. I mean, they they try
to be courteous and and all that stuff. At the
same time, they you know, they just walk their beats
or whatever. But honestly, they're just like you can tell,

(01:39:09):
it's like this is some bullshit.

Speaker 3 (01:39:11):
They're counting the minute so they get to go home
back to like can you imagine wishing to go home
to a place like Ohio or Mississippi instead of being
here in DC. Like in a way, they're on like
a free tour, right, they get to walk around the
monuments and look at stuff. They got to pick up
litter while they're doing it. But it's such also it's
a wasted expense. It's really I think it's probably demoralizing.

(01:39:34):
You know, I think that I think we've talked about
this before, but the people who who volunteer or you know,
sign up to go work for the federal government or
join the Guard or something, that these are not people
who do this because they just have our board and
have nothing to do it.

Speaker 5 (01:39:50):
Yeah, they're called the serve.

Speaker 3 (01:39:52):
They have like a you know, an innate internal feeling
that says like, hey, you know, I lived through a
flood and the Guard came and plucked me out of
the water, and uh, you know, help my family to safety,
and I want to do that for somebody else. Like
that's the thing that makes people join the Guard is

(01:40:14):
and and and help their fellow insert state here people
in a time of need, whether it's a disaster or
some other sort of civil disorder or whatever. But like
they're not interested in doing this stuff. I'm not saying
it's not useful, but it's not particularly useful. And it's
certainly not the thing that like gets you up in

(01:40:37):
the morning. I can't wait to get up in the
morning and go stand around on a corner in the navy.

Speaker 4 (01:40:42):
Yard, or I'm hanging out on the train platform, like it's.

Speaker 5 (01:40:46):
Like you can't even see anything there. It's it's I
don't know. I I do worry about the like the
morale of the.

Speaker 15 (01:40:53):
Guard, Like y I make these guys not re up,
and then does it make us more vulnerable when we
do have more climate disasters and there's not enough guard
people to to help shore up a levey or whatever.

Speaker 4 (01:41:08):
I don't know, man.

Speaker 3 (01:41:09):
And like, let's add to this too, that the council
is debating and the mayor is asking for more money
for the police department.

Speaker 5 (01:41:17):
They want to hire more officers.

Speaker 3 (01:41:19):
They're offering these bonuses, they're giving out these pay raises,
trying to get more more local cops on the beat.

Speaker 4 (01:41:28):
Will go through Yeah, I think again, this is the
politics side of it too.

Speaker 3 (01:41:33):
It's like if you're if you're a big city mayor,
and specifically a black mayor of a of a city
that's at least a lot of black folks. I'm not
obviously not a majority black city anymore, but if you
are a black mayor of a large city, you got
to target on you, you know, from this administration. And

(01:41:55):
and he's you know, now he's looking for black cities
in red states that he can uh get them to
use their guard without a lot of trouble. Like that's
why he's talking about New Orleans. I'm sure Jackson, Mississippi
is going to be on the next one on the list.
I'm sure he's gonna go to Birmingham.

Speaker 4 (01:42:08):
You know.

Speaker 5 (01:42:08):
It's it's all of these things, like if.

Speaker 3 (01:42:12):
You're gonna play the politics side of it, take advantage
of the situation.

Speaker 5 (01:42:16):
Get you get your money.

Speaker 3 (01:42:19):
You know, if and if you can find a way
to get the fence to contribute to it, don't please
take it. Like nobody's saying that there's too few cops.

Speaker 4 (01:42:27):
On the beat. I'm there, I have.

Speaker 3 (01:42:30):
We have talked about this show for ages. There should
be vastly more cops. There should be vastly more cops,
so many cops that they can safely rotate out and
take time to decompress and spend more time training and
spend more time getting familiar with with the laws and
stuff so that they're less likely to commit all of

(01:42:50):
these constitutional violations. At the police departments around this country
so routinely commit. A lot of that has to do
with being in a high stress, violent environment all the time.
If there were three times as many cops they could
rotate out, they'd only take a third of the trauma
all the time. But nobody's interested in doing that, and
they don't want to pay for all of that. And
I'm the only person who's got this comprehensive plan for

(01:43:12):
like real.

Speaker 5 (01:43:13):
Policing in this country.

Speaker 3 (01:43:14):
Nobody made me mayor of anything, but you know, when
I'm benevolent dictator. That's the way it's gonna work is
that the cops are gonna get time off and there,
and they're gonna they're gonna be on the beat. Then
they're gonna be off, then they're gonna go to training,
and then they're gonna be back on the beat. So
the last thing that they did before they went on

(01:43:35):
the beat was get refreshed on the laws. And the
first thing they do when they come off the beat
is not be near anybody that they could harass or
take you know, their weapon out at It's it's like,
you gotta think of it that way. If you can
leverage this situation to get that, that's great. You may
end up needing them later, you know, Uh, when the

(01:43:55):
federal government attacks your city, maybe your cops are there
to help.

Speaker 4 (01:43:59):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:44:02):
It.

Speaker 3 (01:44:02):
This is precarious, yes, right, and it is and and
we want a couple I want to add to this.
You know, we talked about how they're bringing jag lawyers
to the district to fill in for all the local
prosecutors who they don't have. We talked about this. I
think maybe the last where the cases that they're bringing

(01:44:27):
can't get an indictment, right, the grand juries just aren't indicting. Well,
the judges in the district are like, you're holding these
people for all this time and you're dismissing the case
when you can't get an indictment, or before you even
try to get an indictment, what are you doing. You're
you're doing jump out, you're grabbing people, you're snatching people up,
You're doing all this stuff and you're punishing them and

(01:44:48):
then you're dropping the case.

Speaker 4 (01:44:50):
So what's the what's the point. What are we doing
to terrorize?

Speaker 3 (01:44:54):
That is the point. So like what's the recourse, what's
the remedy? Can you sue for that? Maybe you should
suit for that. Force them to say that they were
not doing you know that they didn't mean to hold
you for all that time, extract an apology.

Speaker 5 (01:45:09):
I don't know, qualified immunity.

Speaker 4 (01:45:10):
I think the suits are possible. I mean, the suits
are definitely possible.

Speaker 3 (01:45:16):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're coming. And in fact, there have
been several judges on the bench here in DC who
have said I would recommend you do that to the
defense counsels, like, hey, when now that this case is
dismissed while you're here, go down the hall and file
a lawsuit for you know, unlawful arrest or I legal

(01:45:38):
detainment or whatever, you know, like false imprisonment, all of
these things, because it just does seem like if they're
going to drop the thing anyway, right, why.

Speaker 4 (01:45:49):
Are they doing that?

Speaker 3 (01:45:50):
Well, part of that's incompetence. Let's make it worse, shall we.
Let's do it adding insult to injury. Now you've got
jag lawyers who are supposed to do local prosecutor's job,
a job that they are not equipped for, do not
have the training for, and will definitely fuck up. Now
Pickled Pete Hegseth is trying to send a bunch of

(01:46:11):
jag lawyers to do the immigration courts jobs. That sounds great, right,
So there's a real shortage of immigration judges in the
immigration system. We've talked about this several times before that
judges and immigration courts are administrative.

Speaker 5 (01:46:31):
They work for the executive branch. They aren't like Senate
confirmed or anything like that. They're not elected.

Speaker 3 (01:46:39):
They're basically just executive branch employees whose job it is
is to hear a case and rule on it. And
there's not enough of them, and before Trump came in,
there wasn't enough of them. The backlog in immigration courts
is tremendous. And one of the things that like when
people complain about, oh there's catching really or people make

(01:47:01):
an asylum claim and then they'd go three years without
getting deported, well, it's because the courts are tiny. There's
not enough, they're underfunded, they're under resource and stuff like that.
And the same people who complain about all these this
immigration they never want to vote for more money for
the immigration courts.

Speaker 4 (01:47:21):
Well, or we can't even with this, we can't pass comprehensive.

Speaker 3 (01:47:25):
They still can't pass comprehensive immigration reform, which would expand
the size of these courts and give them enough money
to actually dedicate the cases. And then add on that
when Trump came in, they fired a lot of those judges,
so they went from the average judge having a case
out of like ten thousand cases to being like fifty
thousand cases.

Speaker 5 (01:47:45):
Maybe miles worse.

Speaker 3 (01:47:48):
So then the Department of War is like, hey, we
got a solution. We're going to detail a bunch of
jags to be immigration judges. It's well, wait a minute,
do they know anything about immigration? Lot doesn't matter. They
work for us. We can make them do anything we want.
Do you have six hundred jags? We haven't checked. We'll

(01:48:08):
find out tomorrow. Like, what the fuck? What the fuck
is going on? Can you imagine an unaccompanied minor who
has no concept of American legal system with no lawyer
because any of the rules saying that even the kids

(01:48:29):
should be given a lawyer. They didn't end up getting
some of that funding restored, but not enough of it.
So let's say you have a ten year old in
front of going into court, to like stay with his
aunt because he's terrified to go home where he saw
his parents murdered by a game. And he goes into
court and there's some military jag who is, like, you know,

(01:48:54):
a contracts lawyer in his regular job, but he's an
Army reservist so serves as a jag for two weeks
out of the year, sitting on the bench going all right, kid,
make your case, and the kids like, no English, and
the judge is like, well, I guess you gotta go
see you and he gets supported.

Speaker 5 (01:49:17):
What if you saw that happen in front of you,
would you not be horrified?

Speaker 4 (01:49:22):
Yeah? It's un American.

Speaker 13 (01:49:24):
It's just devastatingly cruel, Like what what what human being
looks at that situation and goes, oh, yeah, that's fair.

Speaker 5 (01:49:34):
That's totally okay.

Speaker 3 (01:49:36):
It's crazy, but somehow it's totally fine for all the
Trump voters who support all this. Keep in mind anytime
we talk about Trump doing something, that's the Trump voters
who did that.

Speaker 5 (01:49:46):
They want it.

Speaker 3 (01:49:46):
Yeah, okay, Trump voters are putting jag lawyers in charge
of unaccompanied minor cases in front of immigration court.

Speaker 4 (01:49:56):
And we told you this would happen. It's not like
it's like everybody wou everything that's happening.

Speaker 3 (01:50:01):
Was told everybody get on the barge. I mean, what
else are we going to do with this? Who knew
the leopard would eat my face?

Speaker 4 (01:50:09):
All right?

Speaker 3 (01:50:09):
So we talked about Venezuela before we talked about this,
like weird navy presidents off the coast of Venezuela. The
US Navy's got somewhere between three and eight destroyers off
the coast of Venezuela at this very moment. They claim
some of them are there for like some war game
stuff with like some of the other navies in the Caribbean.

(01:50:30):
There's also a contingent of Marines of like several thousand
of them on landing craft just sort of hanging out
off the coast of Venezuela. Not sure what they think
they're gonna land on if they're not invading Venezuela.

Speaker 5 (01:50:41):
But Venezuelans are like, oh shit.

Speaker 3 (01:50:43):
There's a marines invading.

Speaker 5 (01:50:48):
Maduro, who we've talked about.

Speaker 4 (01:50:50):
Not popular.

Speaker 5 (01:50:51):
He's lost to elections, right, bro, just hasn't gone home.
He's imprisoned the people who defeated him, and he's a
big communist or whatever something. We used to have a
problem with.

Speaker 3 (01:51:06):
So then you know, he's like, oh, well, there's these
marines off the coast.

Speaker 5 (01:51:11):
I guess we need like help.

Speaker 3 (01:51:12):
And the people who hate him and are fleeing his country, right,
this is mass outflux of people fleeing Venezuela for all over.

Speaker 5 (01:51:21):
The rest of the hemisphere.

Speaker 3 (01:51:24):
He's got four and a half million of them ready
to like fight off the marines.

Speaker 4 (01:51:28):
Right. They all were like, oh.

Speaker 3 (01:51:30):
Well, we hate this fucking guy, but we definitely don't
want the Marines coming. So like in the middle of that,
there's boats doing stuff. Nobody knows what they're doing. Might
be out fishing, might be running drugs, might be working
for the CIA.

Speaker 5 (01:51:46):
It's not clear what they're doing.

Speaker 3 (01:51:48):
Right, Well, one of them got blasted out of the
water by a drune strike.

Speaker 5 (01:51:52):
Maybe we don't even know what hit it. Here's an
image of this boat. It's a big boat.

Speaker 3 (01:51:57):
It's got eleven people in it, apparently four appboard motors.

Speaker 5 (01:52:01):
It's it's going.

Speaker 3 (01:52:02):
Pretty fast if you look at the video, ye moving
and then all of a sudden, bam it got blown up.

Speaker 5 (01:52:11):
And uh, everyone's like, hey, America, did you do that?
And like, well, Marco was like, yeah, the fuck we did.
And then uh and he's like and we'll.

Speaker 4 (01:52:20):
Do it again.

Speaker 3 (01:52:22):
And everyone's like, wait a minute, did you like know
who was on the boat And he goes, yeah, they
were Narco terrorists And they were like, what's a narco terrorist?
And and he's like, that's a word I made up.
It combines two words that I know. Yeah, it's narco
and terrorist.

Speaker 2 (01:52:39):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:52:39):
I don't know. I'm Marco, he's Narco.

Speaker 3 (01:52:41):
And everything's fine, everything's fine. So then the Venezuelan government
was like, we're not talking about this at all. We
don't we don't want to. We definitely don't want all
these rings to come ashore and like kill everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:52:59):
You know, the extra judicial killing is not.

Speaker 3 (01:53:02):
A new thing for the American military or the CIA
or something to do. But to be so openly brazen
to tweet about it is crast You do it, that's nuts,
that's crazy. Like we have a way of doing things
in Latin America in this country, right, you get the
CIA to go over there, you prop up a death squad,
you kill a few thousand people, You maybe knock over
a government, pop in a dictator here and there in

(01:53:25):
Vane an island. You know, it's like the standard American things,
and then you deny it, you say you didn't do it.

Speaker 5 (01:53:30):
You maybe say I don't remember you get some weapons
from Iran. There's like a way to do things right,
you know.

Speaker 3 (01:53:36):
Broadcast that ship that's come on, that's like vulgar, that's
beneath us.

Speaker 5 (01:53:42):
What are we doing here? What are we some sort
of third or ade country?

Speaker 4 (01:53:46):
Yeah, don't even how to do our extra shit.

Speaker 3 (01:53:48):
Whole country forgot how to like covertly topple governments. Come on,
guys out of practice, get with the game. I blame Gabbert.
She doesn't know how to do intelligence, probably because she
doesn't have any.

Speaker 5 (01:54:06):
Wow, that's a stupid joke. There you go. All right,
well that's it. We come to the end of the show.

Speaker 4 (01:54:16):
That at that Look at that.

Speaker 3 (01:54:19):
Yeah, we cut a whole half an hour out by
startingly eat there's a method to the madness.

Speaker 5 (01:54:27):
All right, So we've come to the end of the show.

Speaker 3 (01:54:29):
I do want to say the next week we can
get all the technical stuff to line up.

Speaker 4 (01:54:35):
On RIP Radio.

Speaker 3 (01:54:38):
Now watching on their YouTube channel as well, so we'll
be on multi platform. We're already on like all the
platforms all at once, but more platforms are more people
watching and listening paying attention.

Speaker 5 (01:54:49):
Send us your comments right in call the show. We're
not gonna answer, but call us anyway, send us a message.
We do want to talk to our listeners.

Speaker 3 (01:54:58):
If you are in at which seems to be the
hotspot for our out of country listeners at the moment.

Speaker 5 (01:55:05):
Thanks for listening.

Speaker 3 (01:55:07):
Very happy to talk to you, and uh, you know,
we'd love for you to talk to us. So however
you're managing that, go for it. We are reachable in
lots of ways. We want to say thank you to
our radio partners. Google, which we found out this week
is not a monopoly but only just.

Speaker 4 (01:55:24):
Barely lucked up with AI. Man they lused up well,
chack open AI saved their asses. They to say it
literally saved their asses. To that.

Speaker 3 (01:55:35):
You can pay Apple to put Chrome as the default,
you just can't make it exclusive, said the judge.

Speaker 5 (01:55:44):
Uh yeah. Also, the fact that iPhone and Google.

Speaker 3 (01:55:46):
Are in an alliance for search is like the most
ridiculous thing while they're out there trying to outcompete each
other in hardware.

Speaker 4 (01:55:53):
But whatever, I mean, what's his name? Larry Page used
to sit on the board of Apple at one point
before yeah, before they started making phones. Yeah, Steve Jobs
got mad and said, what the hell? He said, We're
not going to make it search engines.

Speaker 5 (01:56:07):
Right, Well.

Speaker 3 (01:56:10):
They know better, all right, so we want to say
thanks to them, Google, Apple, Spotify, all those guys. Thanks
to n OTN for keeping us on for another week.
Maybe don't know right, that's rough twentieth anniversary Katrina. By
the way, good job ted uh With tune into rip

(01:56:33):
TV you can catch us there. We're gonna be rebroadcast
on Saturday morning at nine, so get your cheerios.

Speaker 4 (01:56:41):
And tune in any morning show we are.

Speaker 3 (01:56:44):
That's right, We're just like calling your Saturday morning cartoons
were so much fun.

Speaker 5 (01:56:48):
Oh we didn't get to talk about Gaza shucks.

Speaker 7 (01:56:52):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:56:53):
Thanks to our home on the interwebs, coplaymedia dot Com,
and thanks as always to our family here at Belleigh
Radio for making us sound smooth enough to avoid talking
about guys. All right, Where can all of our new
listeners in Africa and everywhere else around the world get
in touch with us on the socials tes.

Speaker 4 (01:57:11):
You can find me on Blue Sky at DC Cortez.

Speaker 3 (01:57:14):
All right, you can find me and the show on
the Twitter at chipchat r R. You can find us
on Facebook or Instagram at rip Chipchat, and you can
find me on Blue Sky at chef Chip, my old
Twitter handle if you're one of my former thousands of
followers who also wanted to wish Ted Cruz well with
his bout of polio. And you can of course find
us every Thursday night here on Beltwait Radio and Beyond

(01:57:36):
at nine thirty, except tonight where we were on at Ted,
but you know most nights most weeks nine thirty Thursday
night Beltweit Radio on Jeff that says Brian's in the
background somewhere.

Speaker 5 (01:57:48):
Happy start to the NFL season.

Speaker 3 (01:57:49):
You've been listening to Chipchat on Beltweh Radio and Beyond,
Sweet street Balls.

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A radio in your host a hog in shatle Hopey,
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