The Black Pope and other unlikely but true stories

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Speaker 1 (00:54):
It is nine and thirty on a Thursday night, and
you were tuned into Beltway Radio and beyond, which can
mean one of them thing.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
If this is chip Chat, why don't the chip chat everybody?

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I'm chip you just told them.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
But man, it is an exciting busy Thursday. As you
can tell, we're in the midst of a game, which
you know, if we understand that you want to watch
the caps, you can just listen to us later. You
can tape us, you can tape the game. It's fine
either way. Find us where we find podcast. Yeah, I

(01:32):
realized the phrase you can tape this makes no sense,
but you know what it means.

Speaker 3 (01:38):
No, a lot of people know. Our listeners obviously know
what it means. But if this so happened to go
to somebody you know who was not from analogue error
taping this, you know, even if you said that, even
if you use for television and said you're t vowing it,
like I guess maybe the t vos turned into like
the Kleenex, right, yeah, recording television as DVR.

Speaker 2 (02:03):
They say TVO.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
But then I don't know if we I think everybody's
just like I'm recording this. Yeah, they just say recording. Yeah,
but TiVo used to be at one point.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
So tape is to record if you're not from the
late nineteen hundreds.

Speaker 3 (02:16):
So which is that? Which is It's funny you say
that me and Yale is like, yeah, I'm from like
because when you're looking at the grand scheme of things,
I'm from. Yeah, a different time.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
It's just from before the turn of the century.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
Yeah, it's a different time, which is obviously a different
time as we'll talk about tonight.

Speaker 1 (02:37):
Yeah, that's gonna be relevant. So anyway, we understand that.
So and we'll probably get breaking news through through later
in the show, as Brian likes to do so. But
this is a week of way too much news. We
started even before we started writing the show this week saying,
oh my god, how are we going to fit all
of this in? Because this has been like it was

(02:59):
a news heavy weekend, you know, which usually that's.

Speaker 2 (03:03):
Not how things go.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Usually things are kind of slow through the weekend and
then they pick up.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
But but they but this, I mean with this administration,
they drop large shit usually on Fridays. Yeah, they by
the Friday news though, but yeah, on everything, it's like
not everything, it's on everything. So yeah, you have these weekends,
which I also wonder if that's a setup to get
the people on TV on Sunday and like to have that.

(03:31):
I mean it's probably, oh yeah, that because it's clear
this administration the most important thing is how you perform
on TV. That's right.

Speaker 1 (03:41):
So yeah, And and it's also sort of like par
for the course. Then if you are on an adderall
and cocaine bender, there's no such thing as a weekend.
Like you just go until the drugs run out and
then you become sec death, you know.

Speaker 3 (03:59):
So it's like like they're planning chaos and pandemonium through
the weekend. They don't take a day off.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Yeah, they don't take days off.

Speaker 1 (04:09):
They don't.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
They don't have any.

Speaker 3 (04:11):
Steven Miller aren't taking the week No, they're using the
weekend to plan more devastations.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yes, yes, they are always on. They're never off. If
Steven Miller took a vacation, it would be to go
with Christino. I'm shooting puppies, you know, and like I
don't know what they would do.

Speaker 3 (04:31):
Yeah, he's a weasel man, He's okay, that's the nicest
way I can because the nicest thing I don't like
because he's held bent on like like that's one person
that does have like ideology I think in the administrations. Like,
but it's just very odd. It's like what like again,

(04:52):
I tell you it's like between him and then like
herschel Walker and it's told you, yea, even.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Though it would take himself to the camps like he is,
I don't understand him.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
Like because he's hell been on like that that whole
this new set of folks that have been installed, Like
it's yeah, it's it's it's rather like watching it, I'm like, oh,
they definitely learned from the first time. Yeah, it's clear.
It's clear that it's like, oh, they're going about this

(05:32):
very surgical. It's still foolish and like a carnival no
matter what, it's still the carnival. But it's like it's
like there's actually a line to get in now to
the carnival that it's kind of work.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
It went from being a mad rush to the rides
to now being like some sort of q but it's
still yeah, it's still it's a chaos carnival is what
it is.

Speaker 2 (05:59):
I don't I get it.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
To the velociraptors in Jurassic Park, right, like they kept
touching the wire till they could figure out where they
could get out.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
And so they spent the first four.

Speaker 1 (06:08):
Years just like getting zapped every time they touched the thing.
And now they've learned there's like, oh, we have to
take everything to this one judge in North Texas and
then we can get away with it. Although we did
find out after after what we heard today about these
national injunctions and things like that that's.

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Today was like, hey, hey, it just doesn't I don't
know the Supreme Court. There's arguments today around I guess
it isn't even necessarily yet the birth right. Yeah, it
wasn't really about the merits, although they more like can
one court dictate?

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Which I yeah, the merits.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Of the case itself kind of like snuck in there
here and there, especially in terms of like the practicality
arguments of like how exactly would this happen if you
were to get what you want, which is not to
have a national injunction but to have you know, some
sort of jurisdictional injunction or district injunction.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
And uh.

Speaker 1 (07:09):
So, like beer camp Brett was kind of poking at that,
and Cony Barrett was kind of like she was really incredulous.
At one point she was like, you're telling me you're
not going to respect the decision of a circuit court
or a district court. And the Solicitor General sour was like,
if we feel like it or not, and she's like,

(07:29):
I'm sorry, I didn't hear you, right.

Speaker 2 (07:31):
Did I and and he goes, yeah he did, And
so I don't know.

Speaker 1 (07:36):
I mean, the fact that Nina Totenberg was like, we
have no idea where this is going after listening to
the hearing tells you a lot that if she doesn't know,
it's it's tough to read. But anyway, that is for
a whole other week, because, like we said, this is.

Speaker 3 (07:48):
A very busy that's the middle of the summer show.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Yeah, the June show. So we have we have too
much to cover. We we will of course, we'll have headlines.
We'll cover the world on the domestic front and the
especially Bill Belichick's girlfriend, which Brian loves to cover.

Speaker 2 (08:08):
Also this week what yeah, well cover and what.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Sorry she lost to miss bangor oh no, yeah, okay
you ready for this? Also this week, Trump goes on
a world tour with Mohammed the Man.

Speaker 3 (08:31):
Yeah, that's good, right, all his man's muhammed like a bunch.
Yeah doesn't. Yes, he's he's. Well, I can't wait to
talk about that because I find that to be It's
it's very funny on so many levels. Yes, it's like

(08:52):
it's because it's like a ship. It's like these ships
in a lot of people's faces by doing moving this way.

Speaker 1 (08:59):
Yeah, but he's but he's oddly moving the ball down
the field in some.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Ways because because again it's just.

Speaker 1 (09:08):
Because he has no regard for how anything works exactly.

Speaker 3 (09:14):
People are forced. It's like he's there playing, he makes
a random chess move and you're just like, that's not allowed,
and you're like, but then you respond to the chess move.

Speaker 1 (09:27):
It's like he moves his rook diagonally and you go,
what the fuck are you doing and and he goes,
that's where it is. React and then you're like, okay, guy,
I guess we're doing that now.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
He made a lot of deals, man.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
Yeah, we're talking about that.

Speaker 3 (09:45):
It's a lot of deals he made. This is insane.
So anyway, this is all right.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
So then we're gonna get to Trump voters who got
exactly what they voted for. March forgets how videos work.
It's gonna be a wild ride. I don't Yeah, it's
we just gotta plunge into this, like we we we
will keep sidetracking ourselves if we even like address any
of it.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
So there's no other way to do this but to
just plow ahead.

Speaker 3 (10:14):
Someone just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (10:16):
None of it makes any sense. I wrote it and
it doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 3 (10:23):
Make all right?

Speaker 2 (10:28):
So do you have a word?

Speaker 3 (10:33):
Yeah, I got a word.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
I got Okay, I've got a word.

Speaker 2 (10:41):
All right, So sit back, grab some it's Coli time.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
You're listening to the best show, the only show, chip
Chat on Beltway Radio and Beyond.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
No Break. Brian doesn't like this to we missed it.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Bryan was out, welcome back to don't worry out and
beyond that was a fantastic break for everybody who went
and took that to break.

Speaker 4 (11:11):
I'm sorry news, so I'm sorry. Of course, we're powering through.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
You want to just power through.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Let's power through it, like we hit the tagline and everything. Okay,
that's fine, let's just do some headlines. Yeah, there's okay.
So there's one of these that specifically.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
Has to be for you. TZ just because of the.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
Way it lines up, all right, which is the is
the one that's about the pope. But everything else we
can just go uh onesie tu. So you want to
you want to go ahead with the first one?

Speaker 3 (12:03):
Yeah, of course, yeah again, because you know we're talking
about planes. A planeloaded with refugees from South Africa arrived
this week, prompting fury in Alabama until they learned the
refugees are white. That's right.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
The Africana refugees were brought to the United States, presumably
so Elon could have something that he is desperately looking for.

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Brands.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I can't wait till Ice like snatches one of them up.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
Right, don't worry I for some reason, I don't think
they will. Well that's true, sounds about white, of course.
All right, you want the next one there?

Speaker 3 (12:42):
Oh yeah'll take the next one, just continuing the same
on the same road. The Africana refugees were brought to
the US, presumably so Elon could have something he's oh
you already. My fault could be that one. Sorry, I'm
doing bad radio tonight. Indian Pakistan briefly stopped shooting at
each other after JD Vance spent a long night working

(13:03):
the phones and quote sleeping on the couch. That's right,
it's hilarious. I thought you were just responded to what
I said the first time, not that it was just
like those are fluid. That's a yeah, Sorry, guys.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
The new Pope gave an address to a conference of journalists,
and he told them to keep reporting the truth.

Speaker 2 (13:24):
He then refused to take any questions about clergy sex
abuse and walked away.

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Oh okay, yeah, that's that's true. That's true. That's true.
That's funny. China and the US agreed to appause in
a tear for dropping the extra attax. US consumers have
to pay from one hundred and forty five percent to
only thirty percent, whereas Trump puts it, quote thirty seven dollars.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
And that's right, all right.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
Sean Diddy Combs began his trial this week in New
York courthouse. And if you think you've heard that story before,
it's because it was ripped off from one about Bibi.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
Oh god, wow. Combs is charged with racketeering. But that's
not really fair because it's nearly impossible to hold a
racket covered in baby oil.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
It's true, the evidence locker in the Combs trial is
huge and requires anti slip boots to enter.

Speaker 3 (14:25):
Enter what oh, just keep going. These kids were at
the trial, presumably to find out how they were conceived.
Oh no, yes, no, no, yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
Actually, if you've read any of that, I would encourage
you not to. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, no, it is
not pleasant.

Speaker 3 (14:52):
I believe every I believe everything that happened that happens
to these people. I don't need to read it. It's okay,
I will It's not my job to be the jury
and the trial. They'll do that.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
And they had to watch some of the videos. Yeah,
I'm like, yo, they better get more than their their.

Speaker 3 (15:09):
Here's the thing you think need to be on that
jury because I'm not don't want to really even go.
And I'm always usually about getting on the jury, which
I haven't had to play, right, I wanted to. I've
never never succeeded on it. But that one, I am
coming in there to my bed, you know, like, yeah,

(15:30):
he obviously cannot be on the because there's no way
in hell I want to hear about him. No, it's
that ship is clear, what if what he did is clear? Yes?
And the baby?

Speaker 2 (15:50):
Yeah all right, Uh, this one's a video one and
and audio.

Speaker 1 (15:54):
If you're listening in Brian, hit the hit the tape,
you hate.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
More tape whatever.

Speaker 2 (16:05):
Look at the color of this guy.

Speaker 3 (16:06):
Just look at this screen shot.

Speaker 1 (16:11):
A friend of mine who's well, we're buffering, so he
looks like he's buffering even when he's alive. Like you know,
Donald Trump looks like an AOL video of Donald Trump.

Speaker 3 (16:29):
Brilliant businessman, seriously overweight. All right, I mean we got
the part we needed.

Speaker 4 (16:40):
And he takes the fat the fat shot.

Speaker 3 (16:43):
He takes the fat shot. And he called me up
and he said.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
This is terrible.

Speaker 3 (16:53):
Hold on, this is this is not real. This is
it's gotta be generated.

Speaker 2 (16:57):
This is no, it's very real.

Speaker 3 (16:59):
I see he's just live in Washington, d C. But
this can't be. How is this one? And he calls
me he used to go very sick. Yeah, I think
we can forget it.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Trump tells this story about Ewon who takes the fat
shot and how we would know this, but because he's
got comments, the president.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Kind of like kind of like and I I cadn't
prefer that, all right, I can't if we can have
that on a loop of just just him breaking in
every rand, just like we're talking, he takes the fat shot.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
He calls he goes President. He used to call me Donald.
He calls me President. Now President President. I'm in London
that I got my fat shot. It's eighty eight dollars.
When I'm in New York it's thirteen hulls and uh
and and he said, I'm taking the that shot and
I said it's not working. He fit that in there

(18:04):
somehow he like had this aside.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
You know what's it frustrates me so bad. And I
know we're gonna get to this certain party, but that unfortunately,
he is an effective communicator to obswath of people. It's like,
and I'm like, wall hold on, is anybody else listening
to what I'm listening to? And it's clearly not. It's

(18:28):
clearly not because it's literally he's hitting these notes like
it's these certain notes which I got. It's it is
w W wrestling school. It is that. No, it is that,
and that's what. But that's why I say when I
say effective communication, because when I look at the last administration,

(18:50):
it's that is where the fault is. It wasn't being
able to effectively communicate things that are going on. And
I can't. Unfortunately, I put a blame what the hell
it is on that, and there was effective communicator. I
mean whatever people can say about like she should have
obviously been put forward a lot earlier on there, right,
And that's clear what we what we should have done

(19:12):
at this point, so clear. But it's like this is
like some straight wrestling TV ship that a lot of
people are able to connect with. Chet It's just it's
very simple.

Speaker 1 (19:26):
It's not just that it's the liberals and the like
intelligentsia that analyzes the way Trump talks. They're they're always
getting this wrong that they're they're saying it's word souid,
that it's a jumbo and all this Trump says it's
the weave. It's not the weave. He's not like a
genius that he's he's figuring out how to tie these

(19:49):
strings together. It's just that he speaks and takes his
own tangents and is able to come back to where
he was.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
I talk like that. I understand it exactly right.

Speaker 3 (20:02):
You can easily can get oh, I get it.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
So like the the writers at the Times or the
Post or whatever, they're like, well, he's clearly got dementia
and it's like, no, he just always talks like I
talk like I can follow this. I don't know why
everybody says it's hard to follow him. I can follow him.

Speaker 3 (20:22):
A lot of people follow you.

Speaker 2 (20:23):
Dangerous person.

Speaker 1 (20:25):
The things he's saying are harmful, but he is not
incoherent or incomprehensible. He is very, very clearly comprehensible. People
understand him, yes, and that is where this becomes. It's
it's weird, and it's it doesn't fit the mold of
like presidential because he just does make these sidetracks.

Speaker 3 (20:48):
And the mold is broken. Right. This is it is
done right in the United States of America. There will
be a before right and then after like because whether
you say, whether it's the Republican Party, whether it's what
the presidency even looks like. Him having two terms has
now completely changed this because there's a playbook. Now there's

(21:12):
president that is now here obviously talking about going to
the tank that was one. But I'm just it's when
I watch that and just listen to it's like, oh,
he's he's hitting the notes for people, and those notes
are very strong. It's like a Pavlovian It's.

Speaker 1 (21:31):
Just it's Bill Clinton all over again, right. Bill Clinton
used to do this all the time. He would start saying,
he would get onto the message, and then he would
take a journey and he would always land back where
he was and talk about hit notes. I mean, Clinton
knew exactly how to pluck each string as he went
along through the story, and it would always work, and

(21:51):
everybody listening would hear exactly what they needed to hear
to then follow him to where he was going to communication.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
This is this.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
Is what it is. It is effective communication that is
happening right now. It's just what they're communicating is health,
fire and brimstone. Yeah, that's the problem of all this.
But I can't sit back and look at it and
be like, oh, like this is insane. Oh no, I
see this is I see exactly what's going on now.
I asked, where is our effective communicator? Where are Oh? God,

(22:25):
let me, thank you, please.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Tell me something good.

Speaker 4 (22:31):
Unfortunately, no, Washington capitals are now officially out. So they
lost three to one.

Speaker 3 (22:39):
Three to one.

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Yeah, it was wonder one.

Speaker 3 (22:42):
Yeah what happened? A gold and then an empty letther Yeah, yeah,
that's kind of happens. You gotta kind of you gotta
go for it.

Speaker 4 (22:53):
All right, Well, a great fifty season for the Caps,
but I think again once again, the NHL Wollman habits
number one seeds in the daily cups.

Speaker 1 (23:03):
So first of the President's trophy.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
Well, on the plus side, I get to trim this
thing down so.

Speaker 3 (23:11):
That that'll that's said.

Speaker 2 (23:13):
All right, let's get for cock the show.

Speaker 3 (23:16):
Yeah, where were we on? Yes, while his trip to
the Middle East, Trump met with the new president of Syria.
Or maybe it was some random Arab guy. Trump doesn't
know the difference.

Speaker 2 (23:31):
That's true.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
Also on his trip, the guitars gave Trump a luxury
jumbo jet. When he flies on it, the code name
will be corruption one.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
It's got to be corruption. But the number is so good,
it's got to be corruption. But the number one no
w O N correct. Yes, but I'm telling you put
a number on it with a bigger corruption number one.
Just people have.

Speaker 1 (23:58):
Been the Internet has been, you know, repainted like Tatar's
bitch or whatever.

Speaker 3 (24:05):
You know. Yeah, I think this is how. I think
this is how they got Pete Rose news. I think
the Kataris had something to do with that too.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
I believe they did. They're punching well above their weight.

Speaker 3 (24:14):
It's insane right now, you know from the Oh my god,
they live from World Cups. The plan in question is
a boweing seven forty seven. So maybe Trump will be
standing by the door when never mind.

Speaker 2 (24:29):
A researcher with not enough to do notice this week
that names with the word oak in them, like Oakley
and Oakland are trending in Republican states because Republican dads
like to associate their daughters with hardwood.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
That is just I don't any We're gonna move straight
on to this, and maybe all these names is just
to help them remember to rake the forest. Calm down,
Matt Gates, we said rake, there you go, Jesus.

Speaker 1 (24:57):
Ballmakers in Texas proposed a bill to b an abortion
medication and also included in the bill a provision finding
any state judge who hears a challenge to that law
one hundred thousand dollars. It's the most brazen attempt that
invincibility since Mario ate the star off the Texas Black. Okay,

(25:18):
all right, each one's yours.

Speaker 3 (25:23):
Maybe the smoke should have stayed black.

Speaker 2 (25:26):
Yep, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (25:30):
Pope Leo turns out to be a little more infuriating
to the MAGA faithful than previously stated. It turns out
his ancestry includes some color. I think the New Orleans route,
I believe creole. So not only is he the first
American pope, but he's also the first black pope. Well
maybe not fully black, but the one drop rule still counts.

(25:53):
We're claiming Leo. Right, we've got a draft him.

Speaker 1 (25:59):
He's here, Yeah, you already got He snuck him in
obviously through the other door, right, because the white popes
go through the one door in the all right. Joe
Biden's staff did things to hide his declining health and
condition while he was in the White House and in
his run for a second term, according to a new
book by Jake Tapper and some other person, which we

(26:19):
don't bother to learn. We will definitely make Tez read
this book and tell us all about it as soon
as anybody cares.

Speaker 3 (26:25):
I care on this one, I find I still there
wasn't a time to talk about it, because we have
more important things to do. Try to get calm on
her goddamn White House, didn't We tried that. But there's
a big question to be asked, like why the hell
do we have to run him one more time? This
is a clear it's a clear question that needs to

(26:47):
be asked on there because it's obvious at the end.

Speaker 2 (26:51):
It's ego. What else could it possibly be?

Speaker 1 (26:53):
The thing that makes you want to be president is
that you think you're the one that can do it,
and you don't want to give that.

Speaker 2 (26:59):
Nobody gives that up. Nobody gives it up willingly.

Speaker 3 (27:02):
No one does give it up willingly. But this should
like but then this is this is the bigger issue
with it, because the party should be bigger than one man.

Speaker 2 (27:12):
But that's not how it's organized. It should just make
me president.

Speaker 3 (27:18):
It'll be fine, Oh god, anyway, moving along.

Speaker 2 (27:22):
It would be default vice president. By the way, you
didn't have a choice.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
In that one. Look at that, no choices.

Speaker 1 (27:29):
I'm going you're coming with me. This is a two
person operation. Brian's got to be there too. They just
won't ever see him.

Speaker 3 (27:41):
Go ahead, Brian, Brian chief of staff. Yes, all right,
we'll go ahead and continue on this lovely uh lazy river.
Did anybody not think the I think the president's lives
are carefully manicured and presented to the public to show
them in their best possible light. Hell, Obama, can it

(28:04):
can't even shoot a jumper, let alone make them all
the time. But did you ever see that? Now? Think
about how this is the best version of Trump we're
seeing all the time, only the best. This is the manicured,
crafted image that the best people can produce. Imagine if

(28:25):
they weren't there, just a fat glob of orange goo
with bad comb over rage tweeting on his toilet while
may Mainline ketchup with Fox News or Maliane ketch up
with Fox News blaring in the background, you know, like

(28:45):
your uncle.

Speaker 1 (28:46):
Yes, that's yeah, uh all right, kay Jr. Total congressional
hearing that nobody should take medical advice from him, crazy testified.
Otherwise crazy town. And this one's also for you. I
was thinking about you when I wrote it.

Speaker 3 (29:07):
The markets continue their instability this week, but Trump reassured
everyone that he's just using the dow to help plan
his new Guys, it's gonna go up, up up. And
then if you just like the like, well, do these

(29:27):
places like Santa Monica appear or something like that? Right? Yeah,
why not French rivere.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Something Riviera I think he called it?

Speaker 3 (29:37):
Yeah, okay, soon, well, now say anyways, the funk's going on?
Maybe at this time, we need a break.

Speaker 2 (29:50):
Yeah, we're gonna try to hit the brake now. When
we're gonna do this, we're gonna talk about it.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
We're going to a break several times to like get
Brian ready for when we're gonna go to this break.

Speaker 2 (29:58):
So then we're gonna take a break. And then when
we come back from the break, break we're.

Speaker 3 (30:02):
Getting from from the break.

Speaker 1 (30:04):
From the break, we're gonna come back with the rundown.
All right, We're going to take said break. You're listening
to Chiff Chat on Beltwet Radio and beyond break.

Speaker 5 (30:20):
I feel like stopped the nigga today. WHOA I feel
like stopped today? WHOA? I feel like slapped then the
nigga today? WHOA?

Speaker 6 (30:42):
These motherfucker's on the road and hell they learn to
drive jive turkeys at my job? About to get a
cool cold? Mean five should have took the day off.
Might slap my bout my own damn kids pissing me
off EXCEPF. I hadn't had enough chapot late, fuck my

(31:04):
goddamn border up.

Speaker 4 (31:05):
I'm d up, I'm mad up, man.

Speaker 5 (31:08):
I feel like slapping ben a nigga today? WHOA I
been like slapping being a nigga today? WHOA I feel
like slapping being a nigga today?

Speaker 6 (31:23):
Whoa thartender? Don't you see me waving you down? This
guy came after me. I was here first, but you
serving them around? No hold, I'm about the ober here

(31:46):
my friends expecting me to buy back tomorrow morning. I
better get a cash out for every last one of you.
Motherfucker's getting slapped bet back.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
Whoa oh stopping a nigga today? WHOA I feel like stopped?

Speaker 3 (32:03):
Then a nigga today?

Speaker 5 (32:05):
WHOA I feel like stopped?

Speaker 6 (32:09):
Then a nigga today? Who woke up this morning with
these thoughts in my head? The world would be better
off if I just stayed my ass in bit?

Speaker 5 (32:31):
Whoa old stopped? Then a nigga today? WHOA I feel
I stopped? Then a nigga today? WHOA I feel I stopped?
Then a nigga today?

Speaker 6 (32:47):
Who Well?

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Come back to Johnny the way right beyond.

Speaker 3 (33:09):
I'm yip say, trying to dis hold on. Okay, there
there's a thousand things I have Like Usually I get
up during the break and I go get a drink.

(33:30):
As soon as this turned on, I was glued to
my seat and I I almost wish that we had
a guest on to come back horrified by to be
come back from this, to just see that would have

(33:53):
been first of all, yo, A, I must be stopped
and I'm I'm like for it, but I'm like, that
might not have been AI. Wait it has to be because.

Speaker 4 (34:08):
To me fully honest with you, yes, it's fully AI. Yes,
videos and AI song everything is yo.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Yes Yo I was and look somebody had to ask
the AI to yes. Yes, somebody was.

Speaker 3 (34:26):
Like, write me a song with this lyric the premise,
though I am not. I'm not gonna sit here in
lie the premise and be like, well, I could see
that your cold can see.

Speaker 4 (34:44):
This is why I like playing these things cold, because
your reactions are classic, especially you test. It's just perfect,
absolutely perfect.

Speaker 3 (34:58):
And I can't that might be and that might be
the new one. I'm humming around and I can't really yes,
I here.

Speaker 2 (35:06):
I have a lot of feelings about. First of all,
that opening lyric.

Speaker 1 (35:14):
I think we need a warning, Brian before you do
something like that, because out of context.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
Puts kind only puts one person in a weird situation.

Speaker 1 (35:27):
Well, because then secondly, AI, if you're listening.

Speaker 2 (35:33):
That are was a little more pronounced than I wanted.

Speaker 1 (35:36):
It to be.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
Fair observation, but remember who builds this stuff?

Speaker 1 (35:43):
However, right, yeah, right, however to put it ready for this,
the song kind of slaps.

Speaker 3 (35:57):
And then they go who And the video is very cool.

Speaker 2 (36:02):
It's got like the anime. It's got that retro feel.

Speaker 3 (36:06):
It's that style. Is called something I don't know the
name of, Brian, do you know the name of what
that does. It's like FI anime something like that.

Speaker 4 (36:15):
It's like a it's I mean, it's it's you know,
based off of the this new AI stuff. Yeah, it's
I know it has an anime look.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
So this is yeah, I've kind of you know, it's
never been more excited talking about hostage.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
Uh right, now, come to the part of show. It's
called the rundown. This is where I tell you about
some stuff that's gone out of the news. If we
were professionals, it would sound a little something like.

Speaker 8 (36:49):
This, I'm gonna slap, don't wait radio watching Emmy nominated
TV news man and just bonafide sexual beast Jay Scott Smith.

Speaker 1 (36:58):
And this is the part of the show or I
tell some stuff about the world. Maybe not me, but
somebody else is going to tell some stuff about what's
happening in the news.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
So what's going on in the news, fellas? Thanks Jay?

Speaker 1 (37:08):
Check him out on Channel four in Detroit. Don't slap anybody.

Speaker 3 (37:17):
Not today. Oh my gosh, all right dead televiv.

Speaker 5 (37:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
So, Hamas released a hostage an American born US Israeli
dual national named Iden Alexander. And he was the last
American citizen being held by Hamas. And they released him
to the International Red Cross at a very low key handoff.

(37:46):
They didn't make him parade around or like wear a
badge with his name on it or whatever it is
that they did to the other people. But the interesting
thing about this, apart from it's very good that he
is freed, is how this came about, which is how.

Speaker 3 (38:05):
Uh this came about by Donald Trump doing a direct
deal with Hamas. Correct, that is correct, sonel deal.

Speaker 2 (38:14):
Yeah, it wasn't even back channel they.

Speaker 3 (38:16):
I guess that's why it wasn't. It was a straight deal, right, yeah,
I said the first time. Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 (38:22):
They called the Kataris. They're like, do you have Hamas's number,
And they're like, yeah, it's right here. So they give
them the number. And the American State Department or or
whoever it is. Wikoff maybe just straight up Cole calls
Hamas and it's like, hey, this is America. Can you
give us our guy back? And they're like, sorry, we've
never spoken to you. And Wickoff was like, well, you're

(38:45):
talking to us now, you want to give us our guy?
And they were like what's in it for us? And
the Americans are like a chance to embarrass Netanyahu for
his inability to do anything remotely like this, and they're like,
oh yeah, we hate that guy too, dealt him.

Speaker 3 (39:08):
They're like, right, okay, if you want to do this.

Speaker 1 (39:15):
So, like they totally short circuited BBI. He had absolutely
nothing to do with this. Already, the Israeli population is
furious with him for not getting the hostages out any
any faster, and now it's like he got beat to
the punch and he looks even weaker, and so he
responded by bombing the fuck.

Speaker 3 (39:35):
Out of guys. It was a wild response.

Speaker 1 (39:39):
They spent like the whole last six days just air
striking the shit out of that place. It's already totally decimated,
killed hundreds and hundreds more people, bunches of children, and
they still won't let in any aid. The place is collapsing.
They've increased the the what they're calling buffer zones, but
it's actually annexing of territory. They're squeezing the population into

(40:03):
a tinier and tinier spot, and they're bombing that population
in that tiny spot. There's absolutely nothing defensible about what
the Israelis are doing. And the American establishment just like
walked right past that and they're like, give us our guy,
and Hamas is like, yep, here you go.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
I'm not sure what they gave him. I mean, they
must have given him a bunch of money, right, Like,
what else could it be?

Speaker 3 (40:25):
I was gonna say the money. I feel like the
money violates certain sanctions and certain things, But what does
that matter at this point? I don't. I mean, number one,
it's clear that Israel is going to occupy, yeah, stripped again,
and it's clear that to do that, they're planning to
raise that thing to the ground. People be damned. But

(40:46):
it's always been people be damned, right. I don't think
it's never been a time where it's like, ah, Okay,
we're gonna try.

Speaker 1 (40:51):
To Yeah, but the settlements previously, we were sort of
like you know, specifically defined and like meant to be
the sectioned off areas of Gaza, like surrounded by the
pressurized prison that that was the Palestinian part of Gaza.
They're dispensing with that altogether. They're just as you mentioned,

(41:15):
raising it to the ground, flat sheet of dirt. And
then then they'll build you know, the Trump Plaza or
whatever on there and then and the Palestinian people who
already live there.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Will not I it's not even that they will move.
They will be dead. That's what I mean exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (41:34):
Yeah, when I say that the Palestinian people who live
there will not it's not that they will be moved.

Speaker 2 (41:39):
They won't live there. They will be dead.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
They are just murdering wholesale hundreds of thousands of people
at this point. I mean, I don't know what else
you can call it. If you're not bombing them to death,
you're starving them to death. You're this is genocide, and
and for what I'm not totally sure, because you know,
the peace of land itself isn't particularly great for anything,

(42:07):
and now it's even worse because now it's contaminated with
all of these uh, you know, munitions all over the
damn place, and God knows what you've done to the
you know ground visa via all the people who are
dead in the ground there.

Speaker 2 (42:22):
I mean, it's I don't know why.

Speaker 9 (42:25):
You do this.

Speaker 3 (42:26):
Yeah, And I think still the thing is the result
of people wanting to be on where they're from, their land.
You're not gonna get that out of anybody right now
in all and I think right everybody in that region
should almost have like that type of everyone has that

(42:46):
feeling around that. It's they're like the land, that's where
they're from, right, It's for centuries people have been there, right,
And yeah, that's not gonna change. You can raise it
to the ground, but people are still gonna like there's
going to be a group of people that end up
staying there somehow, some way, unless you go a different

(43:06):
a full on type of like I don't know, like
lack of a better word, extermination type thing.

Speaker 2 (43:13):
Well, I think that's where they're going with it there.

Speaker 1 (43:16):
I think I said this the last time that the
idea here the Israelis are going to squeeze all the
people of the Gaza strip against the Egyptian border, and
dare the Egyptians to keep it closed and then once
they've got them penned in even tighter, they're just going
to keep killing them until somebody, let you know, takes

(43:36):
them out. Then they'll close off the fence and it'll
be over. How they how they operate in the rest
of the world after that, especially if they're out here
trying to maybe kind of deal with the Syrians, if
they're out here trying to normalize relations with the Saudis.

Speaker 3 (43:53):
That's the question of that. There's the question of the
right because does the rest of the air world again
turn their back. I assume the Palestinian brothers and sisters don't.
I don't know, do they do they? Event do they
still do that? Because right, again, there are the individuals

(44:13):
I look at. Obviously there's the direct people, right like
BB obviously being one Donald Trump, the Americans like there.
But I didn start to look at like NBS, right,
I look at like the Royal Guitar family, like those
are the other individual I look at the UAE like

(44:33):
a lot of questions about you deciding to then make
these deals. Is it no longer is the is the
two state solution no longer a part of these deals?
And I think it's not right.

Speaker 1 (44:46):
Yeah, I think I don't know that. I mean to
your question, your first question of would they, you put
it rightly, continue to turn their back on their Palestinian brothers, Uh,
I think the answer is probably yeah, if there's money
to be made, they'll they'll look past it. But it's
not just the Arabs you got to watch. I mean,

(45:06):
the Turks are not super comfortable with all of this.
And you know, I wonder if if a continued full
scale genocide of Gaza fundamentally breaks the relationship between American
Jews and Israel as a country, that people like me might.

Speaker 2 (45:33):
Kind of not want to be part of that anymore.

Speaker 1 (45:35):
And are and and the political cover that comes with
the Americans always come into the rescue to defend Israel
or to back them up in the UN or stuff
could kind of erode a bit. If the American Jewish
population loses their appetite to support an Israeli government. I
don't mean the people, but the government. It gets hard,

(45:58):
It gets really hard to continue to operate like this.

Speaker 3 (46:02):
Yeah, I don't even know. That's I literally lost for
words in the sense of like, what do you end
up doing in that situation when it's clear as day?
What is happening, and it's literally like the full definition
of like the rock and a hard place. But at
a certain point people will look at that and be like,

(46:23):
I don't know, how do I again, how do you
continue on? Because it's so brazen, right, it's not even
like I mean, I've been watching this for a long time,
like my whole life, I've never seen it very similar.
I've never seen it at where the even the initial
rules that were set up right with America and it

(46:48):
being the protector, right for one reason, because that it's
square in the middle of a crazy zone in the world,
right that America, it's very strategic. But like even those rules,
when the American president goes makes a direct deal with
a mosque, it's like, oh, clearly I don't even understand

(47:10):
this anymore. On like how like everything they've ripped up
all the rules of this, so there are no rules,
so like and all of this stuff changes in what
every twenty four hours and then so it's like you
can't really I can't even predict things that I think
in the past, you go, oh, a peace deal is

(47:31):
going to happen, and then you know, like and it'll
be like not relatively peace because it's not gonna be
people to Palestinians, but you know, it'll be like a
light occupation and then like and then we'll do it
again in ten years. It's like, I don't really know
if that's gonna be what we see.

Speaker 2 (47:46):
Yeah, the mold has been broken.

Speaker 3 (47:48):
Yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
Part of that has to do with Trump's uh, disregard
for the norms, you know, where like the thing that
America ultimately withholds his recognition. So you know, we don't
talk to terrorists, we don't talk to the North Koreans,
and he doesn't care about that. He'll talk to anybody,
especially because he's as corrupt as you could possibly be.

(48:11):
If he thinks that there's an opportunity for him to
make a dollar, he's gonna do it. So I think
that the golf Arabs very fundamentally understand that, and I
think by extension, Hamas understands that because they are funded
by those same golf Arabs. But you know, the the
Israeli okay to be Jewish in America has always kind

(48:34):
of come with it that Like when the Israelis do
something that's uncomfortable for you, for me, you have to say, like, eh,
I kind of wish they wouldn't do that, but like,
in the end, I'm able to look past it because
I want this thing called the state of Israel to
be here for me.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
It's like early in the NFL, would there be black
quarterbacks that really weren't that good? Like, unfortunately, I'm gonna
rock with the black even though I'm not gonna say
anything bad about them, even though Yo, it's like, that's
not really uh that that's not what we should be
cheering on because that's not good. It's not the excellence
that you're hoping for. Yeah, it's that was just a
trivial way to put that there. What I'm saying, it's

(49:13):
like that I'm not going to necessarily speak negatively on
on this because right I want the idea of that
to be yeah, to stay be around. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (49:25):
So so I would always watch it about how critical
I was about Israel and because ultimately I wanted the
existing case. I needed to run there from something bad,
and now I do need to run someplace from something bad,
and Israel is so far off the table it's not
even part of the conversation because I don't want to

(49:46):
be any part of that, and.

Speaker 2 (49:49):
It it will break.

Speaker 3 (49:52):
You know, my.

Speaker 2 (49:55):
My generation, we are the.

Speaker 1 (49:58):
Children of the of people who built that country, and
you know, or the grandchildren of I should say, so
it was my grandfather's generation. It was his brother who
went there. He moved there in fifty three to build
that country. And it was it was those folks who

(50:19):
kept going back and forth bringing hiding salamis in their
coats to bring them to Israel so that the people
there could get food, you know, like it was that.
And we had the JNF boxes at Hebrew School collecting
money to plant trees, and it was a whole thing.
And we were very deeply raised with the aftermath of

(50:43):
the Six Day War and that this is our territory
as Jews, and it was all, you know, given to us,
and we took it after being attacked, and it was
there was this all glorious story that went along with it,
and that is completely un tellible. Now that that story
is not something I can tell. I can't repeat that

(51:03):
it's not real. And now we are as as the
descendants of that, you know, Jewish folks perpetrating on other
people something that's recognizable, but not in a good way,
and I I can't can't confidence it.

Speaker 2 (51:23):
I just can't. I can't have any piece of it.
And it's that's not good. That is that is that
may end up being the thing.

Speaker 3 (51:34):
That's heavy ship to walk around with. Right, that's some
heavy that's heavy ship to walk around with.

Speaker 1 (51:37):
It's heavy to walk around with. But it's it's very
it's even heavier to like read and find out that
you know you're you're tied to it in so many ways.
It's it's really troubling. I am very concerned that it
it breaks because the the fundamental support like Israel would

(52:02):
never have dreamed of committing the various types of occupations
and behaviors that they have committed before this war right
in the West Bank over the last forty years, if
they didn't think that they were going to be protected
by the Americans from another nineteen sixty seven style attack

(52:24):
in sixty seven.

Speaker 3 (52:26):
But also, isn't it what fuels it as well? Is
like yo as a it's clear that from what i've
and again I can't speak because I'm not Jewish, right,
but from everything I've read, it's also clear that what
happened in the war, it's everybody's like that shit's not
happening again, We're not that that. We're not ever going like,

(52:48):
well fucking bomb anybody like and it's almost kind of
like every it's like, oh, I see there were Jewish
folks that were critical that. Oh no, one's stood up
and fought for themselves during that time, right or it
was like more of a pacifist people. And it feels
like after the war for again. And I can't speak

(53:09):
to this, right, but it's it feels after the war,
it's like, oh no, never again, like we're never in.
We look at we're situated here in the middle of
a lot of folks don't want us here, but it
doesn't matter. We have the backing in the United States
and prior the backing to Britain, and it's like will will,

(53:30):
We're gonna go fight, Like, we'll go fight this shit
out right, And like I wonder if for over, over
time you just have that memory, it's like, oh, I'm
going to fight this where to me, it's it's clear,
it's like, do y'all really got to I don't think
anybody's coming to take that ship? Right, No, Like y'all
are the dominant power, like Israel is the dominant power, right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (53:51):
The reason that's so, that's the thing that the reason
that Israel is the dominant power in that place is
because of the United States.

Speaker 3 (53:59):
Yeah, they can fuck it. All those countries there have
no match for what is what is there's no match
for them. And yeah, even most of the United States, obviously,
but I think without the United.

Speaker 1 (54:10):
States, well, but they aren't really ever without, right, because
so much of their hardware, so much of their intelligence,
so much of everything that they do, is tied to
the American military and the weapons systems that the Americans
have given them, even though the Israelis are very adept
at building their own. In sixty seven, Israel is aware

(54:31):
of this impending attack by the entire Arab world all
at once, and they've got sophisticated aircraft from the Russians,
and the Israelis have no American hardware at all. They've
got crappy French surplus stuff and their wits. And because

(54:53):
they see the threat coming, and because like you said,
they've adopted this attitude of we're not going and to
let it happen again, they're willing to make a preemptive strike,
and they get the planes in the air first, and
they attack the Egyptians and the Syrian air forces on
the ground and obliterate them before they can launch everything,

(55:15):
which they then do and try to make the attack.

Speaker 2 (55:18):
They blitz up the Israelis, blitz across the Sinai.

Speaker 1 (55:21):
And get to the Suez and basically tell the Egyptians
go ahead and make a move, and they do the
same thing in the go on, they do the same thing.

Speaker 2 (55:30):
Across the Jordan or across the sixty seven.

Speaker 1 (55:34):
Line, you know, up to the Jordan River and threaten
to go into Jordan, you know, all the way across
the river and say all right, you know, y'all really
want to do this, and it works.

Speaker 6 (55:48):
And.

Speaker 1 (55:50):
The Arabs back down because they don't have the wherewithal
to fight this.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
And.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
That is the last time the Israelis really to do
anything without the Americans helping them. After that, the Americans
are like, Okay, these guys are legit. They are an
opportunity for us to have this strategic position in this
place that is, you know, right in Russia's sphere, and
the Americans begin flooding the Israelis with support, and a

(56:21):
lot of that comes from American Jews who saw that
sixty seven six day war and said, Okay, we are
no longer you know this meek, easily roused, pogrammed Holocaust victim.
We are now a legitimate, established power. And the American

(56:42):
Jewish community floods support to Israel in terms of money,
in terms of moving there, in terms of moving people
there and building up ties and all.

Speaker 2 (56:50):
Of that stuff, and it gets very very strong and
the Israelis then.

Speaker 1 (57:00):
I don't know exactly what trips this, but at some point,
like especially in the mid eighties with like Reagan and Bush,
they kind of like get pretty bold about this. They've
won in forty eight, they won in sixty seven, they
won in seventy three, and they're like, now we get
to be the aggressor now we get.

Speaker 2 (57:21):
To take things now whatever.

Speaker 3 (57:23):
These administrations couldn't even stop any of this, right Yeah, Well.

Speaker 2 (57:27):
They didn't want to stop it, right he did. You
weren't mine with it.

Speaker 3 (57:32):
Administration like even to go in and be like, hey,
we think you should kind of chill out on certain things.
They're They're like, all right, what, You're not going to
change the posture of what?

Speaker 2 (57:42):
Yeah, but they didn't. They didn't do that. It wasn't
until Clinton that anybody told the Israelis, maybe you ought
to give up some of this stuff that you took
in sixty seven, like they Carter tried. Carter got them
to give the Sinai back to the Egyptians in return
for recognition and peace, and NASA signed the deal and
the Israelis and the Egyptians were technically, you know, recognized

(58:02):
in that piece ever since.

Speaker 3 (58:04):
But they.

Speaker 1 (58:08):
That turning and maybe that's the turning point. But the
Israelies basically began a campaign of like taking shit since
that point and knowing that they had the backing of
the Americans. Now we're at a place where it gets
very difficult for the United States as a group, as
a pluralistic country made of many people, and especially for

(58:31):
the Jews in this country, for all of us who
identify with the struggle of those who have been oppressed,
to continue to support somebody who looks very much like
the people who oppressed us. And it if that supportive operates,
could the Israelis continue to live in such a hostile
environment without if if for, like like I said, it's

(58:57):
it's a long shot. But if the Americans say, stopped
supporting they have sixteens, then make up the backbone of the.

Speaker 2 (59:04):
Israeli Air Force. Uh, what would happen? Would they still
be China?

Speaker 3 (59:09):
Deal with China? Right, China steps into this world right,
and I may I'm making theirs.

Speaker 1 (59:15):
Don't make it deal with China first, I mean, but
I think it deals with everybody. Yeah, China might be
willing to sell things to everybody and just let them
all find it out.

Speaker 2 (59:24):
They don't care.

Speaker 3 (59:25):
Yeah, this is and and this is the whole point
of like, well, what I thought when you say the
norms are completely gone? So I thought that was the
whole idea of like America, right, is that you are
the button right. Not to say that I agree with
the way it moves, but it's like, oh, we're gonna
will dictate the terms. No longer does it feel like

(59:48):
America dictator terms it there, we dictate the terms, but
we're choosing to go a different.

Speaker 1 (59:55):
Route, Like well, and the terms seems seem unmoored. You know,
it was an American hegemony that like maintained the rules
of the road, even if those rules weren't great, and
it was stable and you were you were to play
within those rules or you you basically found yourself in

(01:00:15):
a totally incompatible spot. And now with the Trump administration,
there are no rules and they just do anything that
they want and they shift around like on a on
a given basis, which is how we get this, you know,
some of these crazy things. Then on the other hand,
like the actual norms of diplomacy and governance and stuff,

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is how we get to like this next story, which
is that the PKK is laying.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Down their arms.

Speaker 3 (01:00:41):
I missed this one. Didn't even see this.

Speaker 2 (01:00:43):
This is a thing that I didn't think I would
see ever in my entire life.

Speaker 3 (01:00:46):
Didn't see this.

Speaker 1 (01:00:47):
And yeah, it kind of was not on the radar
because of the you know, just fire hose of other
crazy shit that was going on. But this is a
huge deal. Turkey and the Kurds have been at war
with each other basically since the modern state of Turkey
arose out of the Ottoman Empire, and the numbers of

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people dead in this conflict is staggering. It's in the
hundreds of thousands if you start really counting it up.
And the currents have been fighting for an autonomous country
essentially in the region that is what we would call Kurdistan,
Northern Iraq, northern Syria, and eastern and southern Turkey and

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or Turkey as they like to be called now sorry.

Speaker 3 (01:01:35):
And.

Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Basically they kind of achieved it, Like they got what
they needed. They've got this independent state with a stable
government and an airport and oil money in northern Iraq.
They've got the YPG working with the Americans in Syria.
Syria now with asad gone could And this is a

(01:02:01):
huge if, but Syria has an opportunity here to become
a major leader in this region by becoming the true
pluralistic society that their new leadership is really talking about.

Speaker 2 (01:02:12):
And if they do that right, but if they do that,
they vault.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
Ahead of everybody else in a way where you know,
the business money comes flying in and and just the
ability to like operate as a as a world power
goes and and you.

Speaker 3 (01:02:30):
Think about it, like, I mean, there's a lot of
history in that region, but serious specifically, I feel, yes,
it's like a cultural thing of like.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
The cultural center of Messalamia.

Speaker 3 (01:02:41):
Right exactly. You could go with like if you really
want to create that society, you could like come up
with and tell the story of that area which people
from around the world if people go there to be
able to do that, there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:02:56):
Lot that happens, right, So they have this huge opportunity,
and in that case, right the Kurds might be able
to operate within that or as part of that in
a pluralistic society. But their leadership here in Turkey basically said,
we can resolve the rest of our stuff through the
democratic process. The PKK, which is banned as a terrorist
group in Turkey, the EU and the US has.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
Quote this is what they said.

Speaker 1 (01:03:20):
They completed a historical mission and it would end the
method of armed struggle from now on. The Kurdish issue
quote can be resolved through democratic politics. The group said
in a statement. That's a really huge it's huge. It's
it's like the you know, the Good Friday Accords or
something like that. This is a thousand years struggle and

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we're lucky enough that we're living in a time that
we get to see it happen. Now, Will it stick?
How many people have to be convinced. Will the YPG
go along with the greater you know, governance of the PKK.
It's not, that's not entirely clear. The Americans are lied
with the wipe g inn in Syria, helping initially to
tamp down.

Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Right now, but now we're alive with Syria, right, maybe
maybe when is Russian play in the Syria's plans at this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:09):
Point was alive with old Syria. They're not really sure
they can trust New Syria. It's this is a really
like fluxy time. And what got me thinking about why
we had like the craziest news week to talk about
when I was when we were talking about that earlier
in the week, is that, like in a time where

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everything is falling in different directions. I don't want to
say a part, but in different directions. I don't feel
confident that we have the steady hand at State or
in the White House that has a deep enough understanding
of these kinds of circumstances to actually shepherd us and

(01:04:52):
the rest of the world safely through this very fraught time.

Speaker 3 (01:04:56):
But that's not how this is done anymore. Right, it's
not the State Department making these things. There's one person
now who does this and he dictates all this like again,
he dictates it like it is that it's what he's
going to do, and he'll have his advisors around him. Right,
But there's no more like this. They had a department

(01:05:21):
because they has five jobs.

Speaker 2 (01:05:23):
Yeah, it's.

Speaker 3 (01:05:27):
There's nobody. All the people who could do this are fired.

Speaker 1 (01:05:30):
You look, if you ever look back through history and
you see, like you know, around the beginnings of various
wars and stuff, one of the things that you'll see
a lot is like countries switch sides. Right, they were
in some sort of an alliance, and then they then
they switched alliances or they they left.

Speaker 2 (01:05:45):
One group and and and joined another.

Speaker 1 (01:05:48):
And when you look at that in a post war context,
it's hard to imagine people or countries doing that.

Speaker 2 (01:05:57):
You're like, what do you mean he switched sides? There's
no switching sides.

Speaker 1 (01:06:00):
You're either on Yeah, you're on the free side, or
you're on the communist side, or you're on the the
Western democratic norm side, or you're on the dictator side.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Like there's there's clearly defined lines and nobody moves.

Speaker 1 (01:06:14):
And now we're in a place where Trump can be
bought or convinced and moved and switch sides really easily
and very fluidly. Yeah, and so like you do see,
how okay, if you've got a leader who is only
interested in their own bank account or only interested in

(01:06:34):
their own feelings at that moment, how you get stuck
in a world War One, or how you get stuck
in a Franco Prussian war, or how you get stuck
in several Boer wars.

Speaker 2 (01:06:46):
That these things are all We're.

Speaker 1 (01:06:48):
Kicked off by countries switching sides on each other over
and over again. I mean, like France and England, you know,
we're at war for several hundred years in conflicts that
they kind of and Spain was on both sides of
that entire war for the whole time. Like that's not comprehensible,

(01:07:08):
but it is how things work. We're going that way again,
and that that was a state of constant war, and
I don't think that that's where we want to be,
but it is right now.

Speaker 2 (01:07:19):
It doesn't look like it.

Speaker 3 (01:07:20):
No default, they'll be fallout from a lot of this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:24):
Yeah, and history is about informing your future, and it's
good to look at that and just see, like, oh,
instability is generally bad.

Speaker 3 (01:07:36):
Even the timelines are matching up, like if you look
at it, like right, you look back at a certain times.

Speaker 1 (01:07:42):
Right, I don't want to be that person, but it
kind of feels like that sometimes. But just in John,
I'm just saying, like the steady hand is valuable.

Speaker 3 (01:07:53):
The J.

Speaker 2 (01:07:54):
Powell version of leadership is valuable. You want that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:58):
You want the steady hand that is slow to make
a move when when lives are at steak. And you know,
the way we know, we know that Trump deals with
steak is to overcook it and put ketchup on it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:09):
So it is.

Speaker 2 (01:08:12):
Not where I want my life at.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
I was here.

Speaker 2 (01:08:15):
Yeah, all right, So here's what we're gonna do. We're
gonna take a break.

Speaker 1 (01:08:18):
But for this break, Brian is not gonna play us
a video with a bunch of lyrics that we can't stand.
He is going to play us a video with a
video of somebody we can't stand there.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
We know what's coming. Uh, And so this is gonna be.

Speaker 1 (01:08:32):
A good break, and we'll be right back after this
break that we're definitely teeing up to talk about with
his break, we'll be back with the second half of
the show. You're a listening to Chipchat on Beltwey Radio.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
And beyond, and.

Speaker 10 (01:08:47):
I now recognize myself for five minutes for the purpose
of asking questions. No one is here today to harm transgenders.
We are here to defend girls and women, and we're
here to defend Title nine and to uphold President Trump's
executive order that all biological males stay out of girls

(01:09:08):
and women's sports. Here displayed behind me is the post
that mister Lafelt put up. Mister Laffelt came in here
today saying that this is game day. You're right, mister Leafelt,
this is game day. Under the Ted Stevens Act, USA
Fencing and other national governing bodies that are authorized to

(01:09:30):
oversee individual sports on a national level have a certain obligation.
One such duty is to provide support and encouragement for
participation by women where separate programs for male and female
athletes are conducted on a national basis. Another's statutory duty
is to promote a safe environment in sports that is

(01:09:53):
free from abuse of any amateur athlete, including emotional, physical,
and sexual abuse. Mister lay Felt, as the board chair
of us A Fencing, surely you were aware of these
legal requirements. That means you believe that forcing a woman
to compete against a biological man promotes a safe environment

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that is free from emotional abuse.

Speaker 11 (01:10:18):
Is that correct?

Speaker 12 (01:10:19):
One moment a point of order.

Speaker 11 (01:10:21):
You're not You're not, madam, I have a point of order.

Speaker 1 (01:10:25):
The the document that you have.

Speaker 12 (01:10:27):
Up behind you is a misrepresentation of the actual post.
It appears that you're trying to misrepresent a witness here
who you use subpoena powers against is not Miss Stansbury.

Speaker 11 (01:10:38):
Miss Stansbury, this is not a point of order.

Speaker 3 (01:10:41):
Actual picture.

Speaker 10 (01:10:42):
Miss Stansbury. You're not recognized, Miss Stansbury.

Speaker 11 (01:10:45):
You're not recognized. Miss Stansbury. You are not recognized. Chair Woman,
You're you are not This is not a point of order,
Miss Stansbury. This is not a point what the committee does.

Speaker 12 (01:10:58):
You are misrepresented any you are misrepresenting policy.

Speaker 10 (01:11:03):
You are Miss Stansbury. You're not recognized. This you're not recognized.
That's not a point of order. You're abusing the rules
of this committee. This is the post of mister Lafelt
that he posted himself on his own social media, and
that's exactly why we have it displayed here today, because
mister Lefeldt believes that he can take away the opportunities

(01:11:25):
for women to compete in USA fencing, and he thinks
this is game day to defend biological men. Now we're
going to return to my time as chair of this committee.
Ms Turner, refusing to compete against a man cost you
a twelve month probation. Did you feel you were in

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a safe environment free from abuse when you were told
you must compete against a man in an all out competition?

Speaker 3 (01:11:56):
No?

Speaker 10 (01:11:56):
No, that wasn't free from emotional abuse, nab. When a
biological man spiked a ball into your head? Were you
free from physical or emotional abuse? I was not, Miss McNab.
Did you feel you were placed in a safe environment
when you faced a biological male in a girl's volleyball game?

Speaker 6 (01:12:19):
No, I was.

Speaker 11 (01:12:19):
I did not feel safe, Miss Turner.

Speaker 10 (01:12:22):
Were you safe when you were forced to go up
against a biological male in your sport?

Speaker 13 (01:12:28):
No, it was not.

Speaker 10 (01:12:30):
Mister Laffelt, do you think your perception of what constitutes
a safe environment for women is more valid than that
of a woman testifying here today?

Speaker 9 (01:12:41):
Congress Woman, thank you for your question. There was a
study that was published in twenty ten regarding the safety
of sports in the Olympic movement. There were fifty one
sports that were assessed as part of that sete.

Speaker 11 (01:12:52):
That's a yes or no question, mister Leffelt.

Speaker 10 (01:12:54):
Do you finish that your perception you're sitting next to
a young woman who received a brain injury from a
biological man. Is it safe to compete against biological males.
Yes or no, mister l Felt, what.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
Happened to miss?

Speaker 12 (01:13:05):
Yes or no?

Speaker 3 (01:13:05):
What happened to miss?

Speaker 11 (01:13:06):
I take that as a no, mister la Felt.

Speaker 10 (01:13:08):
Do you think forcing a woman to change in front
of a man in a locker room is abusive?

Speaker 1 (01:13:14):
Yes?

Speaker 4 (01:13:15):
Or no?

Speaker 9 (01:13:16):
Congress Woman, I'm not truying.

Speaker 11 (01:13:17):
You want your daughter to change in front of biological
men in locker rooms? Yes or no?

Speaker 9 (01:13:23):
My my daughter isn't really something that should be part
of this.

Speaker 11 (01:13:26):
I'm gonna if you're not a quick no on that,
we're going to take that as a no.

Speaker 7 (01:13:32):
Okay, well I'm back to chip yet here wait radio
and beyond uh.

Speaker 3 (01:13:38):
We're we're killing it on the breaks today, Like what
is so?

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
If you were listening to that, you heard the brief
exchange of the congress woman from uh New Mexico trying
to be like, hey, that's not what's in that picture.
But if you're watching on the video, you saw them
like dang the photo behind Marge as she was misrepresenting

(01:14:06):
what was going on there. I just love her opening.
She's like nobody's hearing to harm transgenders?

Speaker 2 (01:14:13):
What who talks like that?

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
She needs like a hashtag the the transgenders.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Yeah, that's exactly what.

Speaker 1 (01:14:23):
Oh my god, what a what a fucking show that
lady is speaking of brain damn and she's.

Speaker 6 (01:14:28):
I think.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
She get hit with YO. How many? How they're going
to pass a beautiful bill when they mean people like
that to sign it. I don't know how it's possible
to they even comprehend what's happening. But that's not what
it matters anymore. Like what those hearings like, I get.
It's almost like people should ignore these things, but I
know they're gonna send the fucking uh dam BOONDI sending

(01:14:51):
fucking people to come snatch you up after that. But
it's like, what are we going to the subpoena for.
It's like I can't answer the question.

Speaker 2 (01:15:00):
The questions that she's asking are ridiculous.

Speaker 3 (01:15:02):
Yeah, I can't even answer them.

Speaker 1 (01:15:05):
Also, the details of the people, you know, the witnesses
that she's saying, like, you know, these these young ladies
who were supposedly harmed by these things. You know, first
of all, they now have this career speaking to these
groups where they get.

Speaker 2 (01:15:22):
To spend the rest of their lives talking about how
they were.

Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Harmed by the transgenders, but also that they the details
of what they're claiming don't line up.

Speaker 3 (01:15:33):
They it's just not true.

Speaker 2 (01:15:36):
None of the things that they're saying are true.

Speaker 3 (01:15:39):
And it's also when you platform this this way, then
it then dictates to the country that this is like
some crazy, large, crazy issue that's coming to your town
and it's taken over your town where it's you can't know.
It's very hard for to even be able to like

(01:16:01):
nake Like they talk about this like right with the court,
like have you been impacted by it? Like like right,
there's anything. No one's been impacted by any of this stuff.
And these things are not like they're not real, they're
not real. But then when you platform this, the real
issue ends up being that this turns its others people

(01:16:24):
and then those people end up getting harmed, killed, this
court for themselves. But like the initial argument is like, yo,
what in your community, do you have an example of
this happening? No, but this these just the way it's
platform would make you think that it's happening down the

(01:16:44):
street from you and down the street from everybody, Like
and that's what.

Speaker 1 (01:16:49):
Locker rooms marg is in where people are naked and
changing next to each other, like.

Speaker 3 (01:16:57):
I'm in a few locker rooms. I've never seen that happen.

Speaker 4 (01:17:00):
Yeah, I think she's been watching a lot of star
you know, Starship Troopers, because there's a lot of that,
you know, unisex. Maybe Alec McBeal because of that unisex bathroom.

Speaker 3 (01:17:12):
Yeah, but okay, even.

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Then, Like I used the bathroom at work today and
I was in my stall, and I did not interrogate
who was in the stalls next to me.

Speaker 2 (01:17:24):
I didn't care.

Speaker 1 (01:17:25):
That wasn't what I was there to do. And it
didn't make any difference. That wasn't what I I mean,
nobody is doing this, just literally nothing, This is not happening.

Speaker 2 (01:17:36):
It could have been a biological woman next to me.

Speaker 1 (01:17:40):
What difference would that have made between me and the
porcelain god that I was busy, uh, you know, praying
to at that moment.

Speaker 3 (01:17:49):
But it's sold as people are out here with the
genitals out, that's what people are in.

Speaker 2 (01:17:58):
The gaping around in the locker room.

Speaker 3 (01:18:01):
What again? If you believe that I could see why
you might be like what like again.

Speaker 14 (01:18:06):
I'm look again, I'm even looking I'm giving the olive brunch.
I could see what you're like, that's a wild place
you live in where people the generals out and biological men.

Speaker 3 (01:18:19):
But like, I can see where all of this becomes.
But that's not happening. No doing that. Okay, that's not happening.

Speaker 2 (01:18:30):
Anyway. All right, here's something that is happening.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
So you may remember that we talked about how you know,
Trump and Elon basically are firing all the parts of
the government, especially the parts of the government that help
the people who mostly voted for Donald Trump. In this case,
we're talking about coal miners.

Speaker 3 (01:18:46):
So there's a.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Part of the HHS which is called NIOSH. That's the
National Institute for Occupational Safety and Hazards or something like that,
and they're basically they do several things, but they they
look after coal miners, and they do it in several ways.

Speaker 2 (01:19:07):
One way is that they're the ones who certify and
test all of the.

Speaker 1 (01:19:14):
Respirators and safety gear that you might use in those
kinds of circumstances. The respirators, like for example, that I
have at work, are certified by NIOSH to meet like
a certain standard. They also this is also the agency
that is in charge of the black lung settlements and

(01:19:35):
tracking in all of this stuff. If you don't know
anything about coal, you might not know this, but there
is a condition called black lung It affects roughly one
in five coal miners. It is nearly unavoidable, and even
if you do wear a proper respirator all the time,
you could still end up with this. And it's a

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product of getting coal dust in your lungs, and it
causes this terrible condition and disease where you're basically suffocating
as you're living, and your your lung capacity diminishes and
diminishes and diminishes until it's zero.

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
And you die.

Speaker 1 (01:20:11):
And Niosh does the job of treating this and helping
the people and giving them extra money because they can't
work anymore because of the black lungs. So like, these
people literally give their life to dig coal out of
the ground to keep the lights on for all the
rest of us. And Trump fired Elon, fired all of

(01:20:34):
the people whose job it is is in the government
to take care of these people. Well, they were reinstated,
some of them were restated. Three hundred and twenty eight
employees were reinstated after an outcry from a bunch of
Republicans in these coal.

Speaker 2 (01:20:50):
Mining areas were like, hey, it turns out we need
these guys.

Speaker 3 (01:20:54):
And people love the government. That's that's what people want
to do in this country. They love the fucking government, all.

Speaker 1 (01:21:02):
Right, they do, yeah, and they love the services that
it provides. This is again, this is this thing that
we keep talking about. Government doesn't is not innovative. It
is a responsive organization. It responds to a problem. And
if the problem is coal miners are dying of black lung,

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let's create an agency that helps them.

Speaker 3 (01:21:27):
It was Lady Card because we needed coal.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
Because we need the coal, We need them dead right.
And so while this.

Speaker 1 (01:21:36):
Part of HHS was late to the party and many
people died and didn't have proper respiratory before they got there,
it is a response to that. And then taking it
away doesn't take away the thing that it was responding to.
The stimulus is still there. The response is just gone,
fucking morons. So like they keep doing this in the
hearings though, when when Bobby Kennedy was up there telling

(01:21:58):
everybody not to take medical advice from him, some of
the Democratic Congress people were like, oh, so if Republicans cry,
they get their services back.

Speaker 2 (01:22:10):
What about flood victims?

Speaker 1 (01:22:11):
What about all of the tobacco prevention programs, or what
about all the missing kid programs that get administered through AHHS,
or what about you know, who do we call to
get that stuff turned back on? Your fucking moron? And
Kennedy was like, I don't know. I don't know who
to call. You want to know why he doesn't know

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because he's he's unqualified at the highest to be in
this job, and he's harmful.

Speaker 2 (01:22:39):
He wanted those people to die. He wants this date.

Speaker 3 (01:22:42):
Why didn't he.

Speaker 2 (01:22:42):
Take away Nartan? What the fuck.

Speaker 3 (01:22:46):
You on the phone?

Speaker 12 (01:22:47):
You call?

Speaker 3 (01:22:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:22:51):
Speaking of government agencies that people utterly depend.

Speaker 3 (01:22:55):
On, this one is insane. I was reading this history
in the week and I was at work going off
about this, and they're like, hey, right when the season
is upon us, they decided to get rid of the hurricanes.

Speaker 1 (01:23:11):
So there's two organizations in the United States. Sorry, hold on,
if I do this, I have to like hide it
till it looks like it's my middle finger.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
How do I do that? Okay, there you go. March.

Speaker 1 (01:23:27):
So there's two organizations in the United States that are
dedicated to predicting the weather, and specifically the Pathway of
large dangerous storms and floods and those kinds of things.

Speaker 3 (01:23:44):
The only type of storms we have now, it's large
and dangerous stores.

Speaker 1 (01:23:49):
One of those is NOAH, that's the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration,
and the other is waffle House. And waffle House needs
to know this because they need to know whether they're
going to be open during that hurricane or not. So
they also have a very advanced forecasting operation. But NOAH
also contains the National Weather Service and all, just to

(01:24:14):
be very clear, all the weather apps, all the TV meteorologists,
all the things that you have ever used to predict
the weather, every radar you've ever looked at, comes from
the National Weather Service, and the.

Speaker 3 (01:24:28):
Weather apps have been acting more Wimmada than weather apps.
Is late, like, hey, buses arriving. You look up it
down the street and there's no bus. Rain, there's no rain, sunshine,
there's rain. There's been a few times I'm looking at
this and I'm like, wait, this is not true to
what's happening in the area I'm at. It is raining,

(01:24:49):
and it doesn't say it's raining on my damn phone.

Speaker 1 (01:24:53):
So Elon fired all of the meteorologists at the National
Weather Service trying to close that down. Now. The National
Weather Service operates like a million of these satellite offices
all through the country. They need to have people close

(01:25:14):
to the place where the forecasts are happening because they're
gathering very, very granular weather data, and they're doing important things.
They're maintaining the radar systems that track these storms, right
the Doppler radar and the infrared and.

Speaker 3 (01:25:29):
All of that.

Speaker 1 (01:25:29):
They're also launching weather balloons all the time. People really
don't understand this, but on a more than daily basis,
several times a day, the Weather Service is launching these
weather balloons in various places across the United States and
even around the world that are dropping sensors or collecting
data on important parts of how the atmosphere works. The

(01:25:51):
atmosphere is like an ocean of air that we are
on the bottom of, and it is moving around all
the time. It's being convected around, stirred up by the
heat from the sun, and a lot of crazy shit
happens up in the atmosphere. It doesn't just rain because
the weather man told you it's gonna rain, and doesn't
rain because my people flipped the switch and turned on

(01:26:12):
the rain. It rains because of energy exchanges, pressure differentials,
the amount of moisture in the atmosphere. Even it turns
out every drop of rain that has ever fallen on
planet Earth starts by coalescing around a little particular bacteria
that lives up in the upper atmosphere and creates enough

(01:26:35):
of a bit of dust or a bit of something
for vapor to coalesce on and condense on to become
a water droplet.

Speaker 3 (01:26:43):
And mad rain forever may it continues to rain, right please.

Speaker 1 (01:26:49):
And the way we know that is because of all
of the data that the Weather Service and all the
scientists gathered. So when when they fire them, these these
areas and these forecasting offices go unstaffed. And we have
not been in a period without twenty four to seven
Weather Service like watching things since basically the war, you know,

(01:27:15):
at the end of the war or the like the fifties, Okay,
And we're utterly dependent on this information. There's not a
piece of American society that doesn't need to know the weather.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
All the time.

Speaker 1 (01:27:29):
And and now it's like hyper accurate because of all
of these detailed bits of data that the people are gathering.
So when they fire them, all, there's no fucking data
and nobody knows what's happening. So like the forecasts are
all wrong and there's not people in places where they
need them. Now, some places get different kinds of weather, right,

(01:27:53):
We live in the Washington area, and in Washington the
most dangerous kinds of weather we get are like severe thunderstorms.
But we don't really get hurricanes, we don't really get tornadoes.
We don't get much in the way. So like, staffing
our weather facilities in terms of life safety is maybe

(01:28:17):
a little less critical than like say South Florida or
the Gulf Coast or Tornado Alley.

Speaker 2 (01:28:24):
Correct guess where they don't have.

Speaker 3 (01:28:26):
Any people and all the places named exactly.

Speaker 1 (01:28:30):
So the Weather Service is now begging staff to transfer
to those offices. They've got one hundred and fifty five
vacancies that the agency is seeking to fill by the
end of this month by the end of May, including
key weather forecasting positions and offices in coastal Texas, Louisiana,
and states that can face threats from the Atlantic hurricane season.

Speaker 2 (01:28:51):
That begins in a few weeks.

Speaker 1 (01:28:55):
Noah, the Weather Service's parent agency, is also seeking large
numbers of me neologies to move to offices and places
like Alaska and across the northern plains in Nebraska, Wyoming,
in South Dakota, places that people don't usually want to
just move to for no reason. And the people who
were there, you should have been like buying them pizza

(01:29:16):
every other week for being willing to live there and
use their scientific knowledge to help these people who live
in these very vulnerable places.

Speaker 3 (01:29:27):
What's wild is that there's gonna be so many people
who make a lot of money from this because the
government is gonna end up paying people to do this,
like if they're gonna give them these incredible bonuses, because again,
if these are needed services, and once you fire people,
they go on. Obviously, I think the private sector will
assume as Sue, he consumes a bunch of the individuals.

(01:29:50):
But yet now you gotta pay people who might even
be less qualified than the people that you had before,
because maybe they're doing some shit they've never done before.
They're like, hey, yo, like I'm the closest thing you got,
Like I might know half of the system, but I've
never done it in the planes. But maybe I can
go out there and kind of figure it out. But no,
you're gonna have to pay me, cause why else would

(01:30:10):
I go out there, Like you're like definition of hustling
back was that's happening right now.

Speaker 1 (01:30:16):
But see, I think you kind of hit on the
thing that they're really doing here is that they're trying
to privatize government. And so if you fire all the
weather service forecasters and scientists and then you still need
that service, what you do then is you those people
form a company and contract that service back to the
federal government out of premium. And this costs the government

(01:30:38):
more money. So this this supposed efficiency thing is all
the fucking ruse. And what they're trying to do is
have Tesla Weather be the one that provides this information
back to the federal government that's out of premium.

Speaker 3 (01:30:52):
Yeah, but that's not gonna like eventually, that's not gonna
continue on. And like I mean, maybe this is a grift.
Obviously it's a grift, but like maybe this is like
a four year grift. But like if you look at
I think fifteen years from now will know what's still
be privatized. I don't think that's the case. I think

(01:31:13):
eventually the government, whatever that looks like at that point,
will then reabsorb that and figure out how because it's
not gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:31:20):
Yeah, it's gonna have to reconstruct everything that got a
weight after the war. Yeah, but it shouldn't have to
do that because we obviously we know how it needs
to go. But but I'm not sure that that's gonna
happen because I think, again, I don't think that there's
going to be democratic government in the United States going forward,
and I think that they're just gonna be able to

(01:31:41):
do that.

Speaker 3 (01:31:42):
It's built on it's built on democratic government, right, and
I thought the air quotes on there. So like, eventually
whatever pushes towards it, it's going to like whatever strife
that's ever happened in this country has always become more
democratic because something has been pulling against it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:02):
People get pissed off and it.

Speaker 3 (01:32:04):
Pulls against it, and everybody's like, wait, all right again,
you look at slavery, right, if we go to the
root of it all, it's kind of like, hey, yo,
you're not gonna fill the West with goddamn slaves and
fuck up the economy for people that actually have jobs there, right,
letting slavery expand there and then it morphs into other things, Right, again, Like,

(01:32:24):
but the initial thing is like, Yo, there's no way
we're letting the South take over the West. Like eventually,
I think all of this, I think that will always
be true about this country, that people eventually push back,
and like again, it always gets scary because when they
push back, just wow, like again, a whole civil war here.

Speaker 1 (01:32:43):
Yeah, you're you're you're predicating this on that the pushback
is ultimately successful. And it might be, but I think
for a good while they might be able to stave
it off. And I think they're gonna just line their
pockets while they can't.

Speaker 3 (01:32:54):
That's yeah, that's the thing. People are gonna get paid
big time with this, no matter.

Speaker 2 (01:32:57):
I mean, it's really happy now.

Speaker 1 (01:33:00):
Four forecasting offices, two in California's Central Valley and one
in western Kansas and another in eastern Kentucky. The staff
is so thin that there aren't enough people to cover
the overnight shifts, which is really dangerous because these are
places that are heavily impacted by adverse weather. We already
saw major flooding in Kentucky. You of course know that
Kansas is famous for all the tornadoes, thank you, Wizard

(01:33:22):
of Oz.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
In California is always on fire. These are all really important.

Speaker 3 (01:33:27):
Didn't I think I read two days ago in Virginia
kid died in the freaking creek that they're just like,
it's here too, Like.

Speaker 2 (01:33:35):
The flash flooding happens here.

Speaker 1 (01:33:37):
Yes, offices in Wyoming, Michigan, Oregon, and Alaska are.

Speaker 2 (01:33:41):
Expected to soon follow suit it. It is a very
critical function of government that people again continue, You know,
I don't want to pay taxes for the fine. You're not.

Speaker 1 (01:33:54):
You're paying taxes for the goddamn weather. You keep the
radar running. That's what your taxes are for. You don't
say anything else. It's it's for the weather.

Speaker 3 (01:34:06):
Have the day.

Speaker 2 (01:34:07):
You voted for Kansas, you know, Kentucky have the day.

Speaker 3 (01:34:14):
I don't. I don't.

Speaker 2 (01:34:16):
Yeah, let's keep right on going. We're not going to
hit this break.

Speaker 3 (01:34:21):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I have one thing to say here.
The War on Words. Ten arguments against free speech in
Why Fail.

Speaker 1 (01:34:32):
Wait, I thought they love free speech. Okay, this one,
this category or segment is called incomprehensible news. Now this
is just like stories that never just did we just didn't. Yeah,
but I needed another category. These are things that are

(01:34:53):
true but seemed completely impossible. You ready for this sentence?

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Hit me with it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
The tough on crime former Fox News.

Speaker 1 (01:35:04):
Host Jeanine Piro, President Donald Trump's new pick for interim
US Attorney for Washington, d C, led a political committee
that repeatedly flott at election laws and stiffed numerous creditors
out of hundreds of thousands of dollars ed martin Part two, Yeah,
but with red wine. Pierro's two thousand and six US

(01:35:28):
Senate campaign failed for years to file mandatory financial reports
with the Federal Election Commission, despite repeated warnings from regulators.
According to federal records, the Peirero committee committee six hundred
thousand dollars in total debts involved nearly two dozen creditors,

(01:35:48):
including Mercury, Public Affairs, Verizon, and the US Postal Service.
Lay over the Post Office sixteen hundred dollars. You think
Genine Pierro doesn't have sixteen hundred dollars.

Speaker 3 (01:36:03):
In liquid?

Speaker 5 (01:36:04):
Oh?

Speaker 1 (01:36:05):
Liquid for sure? Seven hundred and fifty million leaders at
a time one, two, three, four, Yeah. Piro's campaign committee
owed more than two hundred and twenty two five thousand,

(01:36:25):
five hundred dollars to the Lukens Company, a prominent marketing
agency based here in the Commonwealth and the committee's single
largest creditor, Lukens, did not respond to request for comment.

Speaker 3 (01:36:36):
Yes, they need the money.

Speaker 1 (01:36:38):
They need the money right and they don't want it
Pio to send her goons after him. For more than
five years, the Federal Election Commission refused to allow the
Puro for Senate Committee to terminate itself. They kept trying
to like say, oh, we don't exist anymore, so we
don't owe this money. Federal regulators continue to send threatening
notices when Piro's office failed to comply with federal finance

(01:37:01):
disclosure requirements that their argument is that we lost the race,
and uh, you know, these debts were based on a contract.

Speaker 2 (01:37:10):
Let me see my favorite. Here's my favorite part of this.

Speaker 1 (01:37:14):
In twenty nineteen, the Pure for Senate Committee attempted to
determinate itself without paying the debts, arguing in a handwritten
letter to the FEC, quote, these debts based on contract
are not collectible, as the New York State six year

(01:37:34):
Statute of Limitations has long passed. Handwritten letter, she dashed
it off on a barn afkin. What is this exit helper?

Speaker 3 (01:37:49):
Oh? I can't wait what she's already as attorney for DZ.
They say you're a criminal. We are a criminal.

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
Yeah, she's just gonna her whole trial structure is just
gonna be based on shouting.

Speaker 3 (01:38:07):
Yeah my god, this is yeah. She makes it through that.
She maybe we'll just keep having revolving doors.

Speaker 1 (01:38:16):
The interim she's appointed for up one hundred and twenty days.
There's no push yet together her solf.

Speaker 3 (01:38:22):
How much more is gonna come out before then? That's
not a lot.

Speaker 2 (01:38:26):
It's not gonna matter. He's just gonna get another interim.

Speaker 3 (01:38:29):
Yeah, and we'll just keep it obviously. Oh my god,
this is clear. We need to have like a whole
like constitutional convention. We all gotta come down. We gotta like, hey,
this interim shit can't really happen. No, it needs even
be like it can't.

Speaker 2 (01:38:42):
Be as appointment.

Speaker 3 (01:38:43):
Wait, man, we gotta like it's clear what needs to
happen in this country. But it's almost like, uh, the
only way that you can get there is like some
type of like arm conflict.

Speaker 1 (01:38:54):
All right, we'll say we'll both say together on three
one two three benevolent dictator.

Speaker 2 (01:39:00):
No no oh wait, that wasn't yours. Okay, sorry, listen,
you keep saying no, you would fare very well in
the chip Chat Republic.

Speaker 1 (01:39:12):
I know.

Speaker 3 (01:39:14):
Look, look, Shack can farewell to this republic too. It's
easy way.

Speaker 2 (01:39:19):
You know, it's a Librarian of Congress.

Speaker 3 (01:39:22):
Immediately there we go, right, an awesome job.

Speaker 2 (01:39:26):
Yeah, I hear it's vacant.

Speaker 3 (01:39:28):
Yeah, it's definitely vague.

Speaker 1 (01:39:30):
Don't worry. They don't want to hire you either, all right. Johannesburg,
South Africa. We alluded to this earlier in the headlines.
A group of fifty nine white Africaners who have been
given refugee status by the Trump administration to ride the
Dulles on Monday on a charter flight. They not only that,

(01:39:51):
one document seen by NPR says that that there would
be food and items for the children upon arrival. It
said the Refugee Services Office of the Catholic Bias of
Virginia would be on site to offer assistance. The Episcopal Church,
which has long been one of the major resettlement organizations
in the United States for refugees in general, quit over

(01:40:14):
this because they are, you know, the other half of
the Anglican Church, to which you may remember Desmond Tutu
was a part of and who won a Nobel Prize
tried to end apartheid.

Speaker 2 (01:40:30):
They're like, we can't possibly be involved in this kind
of bullshit. And there e Episcopalians.

Speaker 1 (01:40:35):
It takes a lot for them to say bullshit, but
that was a direct quote after the press conference of
families will depart for their end destinations in several states,
including Minnesota, Nevada, and Idaho.

Speaker 2 (01:40:50):
Then they'll have a.

Speaker 1 (01:40:50):
Pathway to US citizenship and be eligible for government benefits.

Speaker 3 (01:40:56):
Now like welfare, like welfare.

Speaker 2 (01:40:59):
And all of these other things.

Speaker 1 (01:41:06):
Now you may say, wait a minute, there's other refugees
who get stuff like this, right, No, no, there aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
You want to know why.

Speaker 1 (01:41:13):
Because the Trump administration stopped accepting refugees the instant they
were sworn in, and lots of people.

Speaker 3 (01:41:20):
Who had been important white Jubans.

Speaker 1 (01:41:23):
Right, lots of people who had been waiting their turn
nicely in their refugee camps, having filed all the paperwork
and were able to pay their own way to the
United States, were told no, you can't come in. And
in that group, I would point out, are like Afghan

(01:41:43):
translators who helped America during the war and are about
to get murdered by the Taliban. Those guys can't come in.
But these white guys from South Africa who own arms still.

Speaker 3 (01:42:02):
I guess yeah, I assume that they didn't seem they
didn't seem to be super skilled workers.

Speaker 2 (01:42:07):
For me, you live in this part of the world
and and has some experience with these Rhodesians.

Speaker 4 (01:42:16):
Well, there's the difference in Rhodesians in Africa.

Speaker 1 (01:42:18):
We know we're lumping them all. I get it, white
colonizer bullshit. Okay to quote your sound effect. What the
fuck is going on here?

Speaker 9 (01:42:30):
This?

Speaker 1 (01:42:30):
This is.

Speaker 4 (01:42:33):
I really think based off of Trump's new fat friend
yeah uh he he, I don't know. He's crying to
tell tell hims, hey, can you help these people out?
And really, if you talk to the South African government
and especially to South African president, is like, there's nothing

(01:42:54):
going wrong here.

Speaker 3 (01:42:56):
Nothing.

Speaker 1 (01:42:57):
So are these people in any kind of danger, imminent
or otherwise.

Speaker 4 (01:43:02):
I mean, if you saw let me post a picture
up again, if you look at these kids and all
of a sudden they look like they just got a
bed from you know, from Disneyland. I mean, it's like,
come on, there's nothing wrong with these people. I don't
I don't put.

Speaker 2 (01:43:17):
Dirt on their face or tried to look pitiful, like
the sound.

Speaker 3 (01:43:20):
Give me didn't not know black people are here too.
You're running from the black people in South Africa, but
black people here. I don't know what's gonna Where they're going,
there'll be black people, there'll be other type of black
people as well. It's not just like South like South Africans.
It's gonna be like people going to Minnesota, like when
they see Somalians, Like what is happen? Like you did

(01:43:41):
not know what's and find minds?

Speaker 4 (01:43:43):
You mind? You the states that you mentioned, the fact
that they're going to Minnesota, Idaho, and Nevada and it's
god knows where probably northern Nevada, you know, like maybe
like you know or you know, I mean to me,
this just this it's scream you know full well it
screams bullshit. And top it off with the guy who's

(01:44:07):
probably representing the state Department him staying in fact, I
understand your pain and suffering. And when he made that quote,
I was like, no, this this dude. The guy who
introduced him, the guy in the gray suit or whatever
he introduced them, you know, or brought them in or

(01:44:29):
welcome him, what do you want to call it? And
it just his sta statement alone when I saw the videos,
like these people are not suffering. They're coming into Disneyland
and they're gonna have a field day here.

Speaker 1 (01:44:41):
Wait till I get to Minnesota and find out that
the favorite person of everybody in that state is Prince Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:44:49):
So I mean, I I unless you understand.

Speaker 6 (01:44:56):
The the.

Speaker 4 (01:44:58):
During especially the time that I was there, this is
like the Ladies' early nineties. This is before Nelson Mandela
was able to be free. I mean, there was like
rumblings that they were, you know, they're finally going to
end apartheid. And I'll give you this mild story. My

(01:45:18):
first ever concert was the MC International and they had
it in Hori, Zimbabwe. It's the edge of where South
like they would love to go on to South Africa
to do this, but they did it in Zimbabe because
of the reason being that a lot of the artists
didn't want to play in South Africa because of apartheid.
Right for this aspect to sort of like, Okay, you

(01:45:40):
got all these you know, post apartheid families feeling like
again everything's been ripped apart or you know, their livelihood
has been changed, and it's like, yeah, things have changed
and you have not properly adapted.

Speaker 3 (01:45:54):
That is it?

Speaker 9 (01:45:55):
I mean?

Speaker 4 (01:45:56):
And the simple fact is like you're not on top anymore.

Speaker 2 (01:45:59):
They're mad. They don't get to oppress people. That's their
like region.

Speaker 3 (01:46:03):
And if you're looking at those people there, bet you
they're there.

Speaker 4 (01:46:06):
Those are you know, generational apartheiis I mean literally because
it feels like okay, that's why they feel like throwing
in that. Oh you're a refugee, you know. And it's like, look,
they're not in a war, they're not suffering, they haven't
lost any anything majorly, So what makes you think they're
They're in.

Speaker 1 (01:46:29):
A relatively stable democracy that's you know, a functional country.
There's nothing, it's not like falling apart. It's it's a
modern cosmopolitan nation. You can just walk to McDonald's there
the same way.

Speaker 4 (01:46:40):
You can't hear like but they don't or I mean
they they really do not understand. Again, this government are
United States government led by a moron that is infected
by a foreign moron, does not know what's really going
on on this planet. And and and pretch is like

(01:47:00):
you're trying to save a quote unquote race from whatever
extinction that is in your damn mindset.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
I mean, is there any way to call this anything
other than blatantly racist?

Speaker 4 (01:47:13):
No, because if you can't, and you're gonna deny Patians, Cubans,
anyone from South America or Central America, because I mean
and all and from the Middle East and all stuff,
and they're going through war torn stuff.

Speaker 3 (01:47:32):
They've lost a lot of more than you ever imagine,
and you won't.

Speaker 4 (01:47:37):
You're gonna deny them any type of quote unquote political
freedom of access to come to this country just so
they can have a life now. But you're gonna save
a whole bunch of suburban Africaners for what really unless
they live in sweat to I don't want to hear it,

(01:47:57):
because it's like I've been through that place. I've seen
the metal houses that a lot of those people, you
know lived in. No way in the world that those
people lived in the suburban Joe Berg and I know
full well that they just pretty much lost their damn
pool privinces.

Speaker 3 (01:48:13):
That was it.

Speaker 1 (01:48:14):
Let me tell you also that, yeah, yeah, let me
tell you also that this is happening while the same
state department that granted them refugee status and brought them
to this country and is giving them a path to
citizenship recently declared that Afghanistan is now safe enough to
begin deporting people back to even including people who worked

(01:48:36):
for and with the American government during the twenty year
war that we perpetrated there and who the Itali ban
are very anxious to meet.

Speaker 3 (01:48:45):
You know, who wrote the State Department's statement? Who the ravens?

Speaker 8 (01:48:55):
You're so wrong, that's why Arsenal is not in the
freaks and you need to be buried and you're never
gonna win, and then your Premier League Cup either.

Speaker 4 (01:49:07):
Yeah, go Gunners.

Speaker 2 (01:49:15):
This is Max from DJ to ourselves right here. But
that was fantastic.

Speaker 3 (01:49:22):
Take that, Brian. It's a kind statement. It's a very
kind statement to these poor people who have known did
such great things for so many years. You know, they
were allowed to come over here the Dutch. Can we
go there?

Speaker 8 (01:49:36):
Yeah?

Speaker 3 (01:49:37):
Why would I send the bad back home?

Speaker 2 (01:49:40):
The Dutch don't want them. They are not that racist anymore.

Speaker 3 (01:49:49):
Well, what's what's where's black pete? Isn't black pizza going?

Speaker 12 (01:49:55):
No?

Speaker 3 (01:49:55):
Let me do the research real quick.

Speaker 2 (01:49:58):
Well, why you do that.

Speaker 1 (01:50:00):
Let's take a trip down to Texas. So as you know,
Texas hates everything and they passed. The Texas Senate passed
a law or a bill this week that would allow
anyone who manufactures or distributes males, prescribes, or provide anti
abortion or abortion inducing medication sorry to be sued for

(01:50:21):
up to one hundred thousand dollars. It expands a wrongful
debt statue to encourage family members, especially men who believe
that their partner had an abortion, to suit up to
six years after the event, and empowers the Texas Attorney
General to bring lawsuits on behalf quote of unborn children
and residents.

Speaker 3 (01:50:37):
Of this state.

Speaker 1 (01:50:38):
Now, that is on its face pretty standardly Texas fuckery. However,
they added this extra thing. They said that you can't
go to court to fight this law. It's pretty crazy.
The bill says that no state judge has jurisdiction to
rule on its constitutionality, and that if they were to

(01:51:00):
do so anyway, that they can be personally sued the
judge for one hundred thousand dollars. The judge would waive
their usual protections of government immunity and could not call
on the office of the Attorney General to defend.

Speaker 2 (01:51:14):
Them in court. I don't know how that's even possible.
Nobody knows how this is possible.

Speaker 1 (01:51:23):
Brian Hughes, a Republican from Miniola and an author of
the bill, said that the law could still be challenged
in federal court, but we're removing the state judiciaries oversight
of the law is within the legislature's purview.

Speaker 3 (01:51:36):
Quote.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
We make the rules, he said on the floor of
the Senate, we set the jurisdiction. Senator Nathan Johnson, a
Dallas Democrat, called it quote a flagrant, brazen transgression of
the principle of the separations of powers on which this
country and state were founded. It just seems to me
that we're holding the judicial branch of the government in
contempt if we're going to tell them that they can't

(01:51:59):
review our work. And I'm surprised that we're not equally
troubled by this. Imagine imagine if the Democrats had gone
into uh, you know, pass the law that saying challenging.

Speaker 2 (01:52:13):
The Civil Rights Laws or Voting Rights Act were that
it's not legal, you can't challenge it. What can't challenge
it in court? Fuck you, Texas. That's ridiculous now as
it passed the Texas House. Yet it might not. But
the fact that they even gave this a go, is
just kind of like what incomprehensible?

Speaker 3 (01:52:36):
There you go? I gotta be honest. I started looking
up black Pete and there's like an Al Jazeera story
from twenty twenty that might be like my test talk
next week, we might go back in time. I got
some research to see where we're at now. But I
was reading a few blurbs from it, and I was like,

(01:52:58):
are we just did George Floyd kill black Pete? Or
is like everything else that happened with well, no, I
know it seems weird, but let me nope, let me
rephrase that Floyd protest. But I did George Floyd protests

(01:53:25):
end up killing the tradition of black Pete because they
was originally insensitive? But I'm wondering with everything else that
happened with George Floyd, did it? Did they kill it?
But now there's a resurgence. I have to do more
research on this. There's articles insane. I'm so sorry this's
a derail me. But did George clip of the week

(01:53:48):
right there? Did George Floyd kill black I got a
follow up next week with with more I gotta.

Speaker 2 (01:53:59):
Everything about you that I'm proud and ashamed of you
at the same time. All the time.

Speaker 3 (01:54:07):
Was so bad on man, I don't know what to say.

Speaker 1 (01:54:14):
We're just gonna move on to the next story because
that's too much. This one is called the ick factor, Yes, okay.
In a similar fashion, I think one of the things
that we've talked about on this show a lot is
that me, as the Jewish kid, doesn't like it when

(01:54:35):
non Jewish people tell me what anti Semitism is.

Speaker 2 (01:54:38):
That's not okay and that's not how that works.

Speaker 1 (01:54:41):
And it's even more galling when the Trump administration, which
you know is full of full on anti Semites, says
crazy things. For example, Trump campaigned on a pledge to
fight anti Semitism. Here's a direct quote, anti Semitic big
a tree has no place in a civilized society, said

(01:55:03):
at an event in twenty twenty four. However, here are
some people who are in his administration currently. One of them,
of course, is Ed Martin, who couldn't fulfill his job
as the US Attorney for the district because he keeps
hanging out with and and going on the podcast of

(01:55:24):
this dude called Hale Cusinelli. Forget what his first name is. Yeah,
he's a hyphenated. We've got let's see who gets name
checked in this. We've got Kanye, Nick Fuentes, and uh
Timothy Hale Cusinelli.

Speaker 2 (01:55:44):
Tim as they like to call him. So there's Ed Martin.

Speaker 1 (01:55:52):
There's also this guy who is the White House liaison
to the Department of Homeland Security. His name is Paul Engracia.
He's currently served in that liaison role. In twenty twenty three,
in Gracia repeatedly praised Andrew Tait, who has long denied
the severity of the Holocaust, said it's kind of no
big deal.

Speaker 2 (01:56:12):
Also rapist, so you know, fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:56:16):
Remember this is the administration that is kicking out students
at Columbia out of the country or attempting to for
being anti Semites. This is this administration. Okay, has this
this guy in it? Paul and Gracia who says that
the Tate Brothers provide an opportunity for a better future,
one that inspires rather than degrades men. Kay, the ADLs say,

(01:56:46):
I bet he will soon soon. He also attended a
June twenty twenty four, so not like a long time ago,
very recently, within the last twelve months, rallying Detroit led
by Nick Flintes, who is a Holocaust and I are
also famously had dinner with Kanye and Trump at mar
A Lago twentees began the speech that this guy that

(01:57:11):
Paul and Gracia was at with the words quote down
with Israel went on to say, I don't know about you,
but calling Donald Trump as a racist only makes me
like him more. That's a direct quote from that rally
said by Nick flent Is attended by Paul and Gracia
who works for Donald.

Speaker 2 (01:57:31):
Trump, who says he hates bigotry and anti Semitism.

Speaker 3 (01:57:36):
Then there's.

Speaker 2 (01:57:39):
This journalist.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
Amanda Moore spotted him in the crowd, said he was
there for twenty minutes. He was chanting we want Nick,
we want Nick on social media, and Gracia has written
the dissonant voices like Nick fuents belonging conservative politics. He
wrote a sub stack titled Free Nick Flentes, criticizing Twitter
for banning him. He also supported the Patriot Freedom Project,

(01:58:04):
which advocates for people charged.

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
In connection with January sixth.

Speaker 1 (01:58:09):
The tim that he keeps referring to and talking about
that in many stories is Timothy Hale Cusinelli, who is
convicted of multiple non violent offenses for storming the Capitol
and was later pardoned by Trump. You might want to
google that guy and take a look at what he
looks like. They describe him as a quote. The federal

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prosecutors describe hel Cusinelli as a Nazi sympathizer who once
went to work at a naval weapons station with quote
a Hitler mustache. He also recorded a lengthy anti Semitic
video rant in which he compared Orthodox Jews to quote
a plague of locusts. This is the guy that they
love that Ed Martin gave several.

Speaker 2 (01:58:48):
Awards to.

Speaker 1 (01:58:51):
Lecture me again about how people protesting the genocide and
gaza is anti Semitism.

Speaker 3 (01:58:57):
Please.

Speaker 2 (01:58:59):
Before joining the Trump administration as a communications.

Speaker 1 (01:59:02):
Director for the White House Office of Management and Budget,
omb Rachel Cauley here's another one, served on the board
of the Patriot Freedom Project. That's the one that was
trying to get Tim out of jail. She also handled
media requests for the group. In twenty twenty two, the
founder of Patriot Freedom gave a lengthy interview to the
explicitly white nationalist website counter Currents.

Speaker 2 (01:59:27):
There's a book title in there. Somehow, I don't want
to read that one.

Speaker 1 (01:59:33):
After that interview received wider online attention appeared to be
removed from the White House from the website. Later that year,
Colley attended part of hal Cusinelli's criminal trial and sat
with his supporters on social media. This Lady Rachel Cawley
referred to the trial quote as a clown trial and
said Hail Cucinelli's conviction was a complete miscarriage of justice,

(01:59:56):
not to be confused with the miscarriages no longer allowed
in tex Rachel on the phone was reached by the
reporter at NPR three times. She said, you can send
me an email, and then hung up each time. I
guess what happened when they send her an email?

Speaker 2 (02:00:13):
She didn't respond. She's a comms director, she didn't respond.

Speaker 3 (02:00:18):
All this sounds about Reich.

Speaker 2 (02:00:25):
I don't like that joke.

Speaker 3 (02:00:26):
It's not good. But I'm just saying, I'm just saying,
you just listened to a bunch of Nazis. He just
went to a bunch. I'm just saying, I don't know
what else you want me to call them.

Speaker 2 (02:00:36):
It was a veritable Schindler's list.

Speaker 3 (02:00:38):
Oh, I don't like any of that.

Speaker 1 (02:00:44):
I don't like those people telling me what anti Semitism is.
I don't like actual Nazis like it all just I
think that doesn't need to be stated, but apparently it does.

Speaker 2 (02:00:57):
Maybe I don't know. That's not good. Don't be a
Nazi from.

Speaker 3 (02:01:00):
Me to understand like the Holocaust, I don't know. My
mother must have been on something like We're gonna learn
today type stuff we sh list might have been on.
I remember watching my Grandmother's house, like in probably on
ABC or something. Yeah, right, they got special permission from
the FCC for a lot of that, Yes, all right.
I remember watching that and then the next day going

(02:01:23):
to the Holocaust music to like to be like, oh,
we're going to reinforce this on a different level, like oh,
you've seen none of the TV. And I remember they
gave me my little passport in there and you go
through and it is literally one of the most somber
and things.

Speaker 1 (02:01:38):
And at the end you get to find out if
the passport, if the person whose passport you're holding makes it.

Speaker 3 (02:01:44):
Yeah, hooray.

Speaker 2 (02:01:47):
How old were you?

Speaker 3 (02:01:49):
That might that might have been maybe like I gotta
look the issue. Yeah that was like midnight. I don't
think I might have been ten yet. I might've just
been getting like maybe nine, maybe around there, because I
feel like that's I feel like that's on TV.

Speaker 1 (02:02:05):
And what maybe like ninety seven, ninety yeah, ninety six
or ninety seven, because I think the museum was built
in or finished in ninety four. Yeah, Clinton was still president, Yes,
and I was, you know, old enough that you know,
of course we went.

Speaker 2 (02:02:24):
With Hebrew School. We went with not Hebrew School.

Speaker 3 (02:02:27):
Da.

Speaker 2 (02:02:27):
I mean I've been there a lot. That's a lot
for a kid to take in.

Speaker 3 (02:02:33):
And you know who. Yeah, I remember VIVI, I remember vividly.
I'm pretty said that my mother will tell us, so
I remember we watched them.

Speaker 1 (02:02:40):
We should get her on the show and be like,
what are the various ways that you traumatized tz over?

Speaker 2 (02:02:47):
Is you?

Speaker 3 (02:02:48):
Oh my god, I could Yeah, I got the hair
and the shoes. No, it's very it's literally like the
only other thing that there was nothing else I could
equated to you, Like, the only thing is is the
first floor of the African Yeah, like it's like the

(02:03:11):
first floor of that. But it's like the whole museum
is kind of like because to me, I don't remember
it being like any like it felt like it was
the story of just.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
That and not like Oh, there are.

Speaker 1 (02:03:26):
Of the museum that have different rotating exhibits and stuff
like that, but that's the main exhibit.

Speaker 3 (02:03:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:03:32):
It's not like the African American History Museum where you
can also go see like the mother Ship or I
don't think like Jackie Robinson's.

Speaker 3 (02:03:42):
Yeah, and it's like, oh, yeah, did this person, No,
this person died.

Speaker 2 (02:03:47):
Oh okay, there's no inspiring part of that museum.

Speaker 3 (02:03:52):
That's wow.

Speaker 15 (02:03:54):
Yeah, but it's not meant to be exactly again, and
these guys they don't go there, and they're not gonna
go there because they think it's part of the woke agenda.

Speaker 2 (02:04:07):
Yeah, that's insane, all right, speaking of insane, Okay, this
is this.

Speaker 1 (02:04:18):
There may be a caveat to this, we don't know,
but let's just let's stipulate for the record, Tez, you
and I have lived our most of our lives in
your case, all of my life in my case, here in.

Speaker 2 (02:04:33):
The DC area.

Speaker 1 (02:04:34):
Yeah, and one of the things that we know is
that our waterways are not safe places to swim. And
one reason in the Potomac is because of course the
undertow is famous in the in the.

Speaker 2 (02:04:51):
Potomac that it'll pull you under. But also because of
the shit in the water, and we mean that very literally.

Speaker 3 (02:04:59):
Yeah, in the water.

Speaker 1 (02:05:01):
Washington d C is a single pipe sewer system. It
has this problem where when it rains heavily, the sewage
raw sewage overflows out of the treatment facilities and into
the waterways.

Speaker 3 (02:05:17):
Which they started to address.

Speaker 1 (02:05:19):
It's a lot better now because they've dug the three
tunnels where they contain thirteen billion gallons of runoff to then.

Speaker 2 (02:05:27):
Treat and release out appropriately.

Speaker 1 (02:05:30):
They capped off the ponds and blue plains and built
them up into containment tanks. They did that also in
Arlington that the treatment planted at four mile run so,
like the Del Carlia Reservoir has been treated and fixed
up a lot in Northwest, which also supplies Arlington and
also supplies you know, all of DC. So like, as

(02:05:54):
far as securing the drinking water itself, it's miles better.
But none of our waterways are safe to swim in. Like,
It's okay if you want to, you know, go skiping
rocks or whatever, and you know, get your boots wet
or whatever, but you definitely don't put your head underwater

(02:06:14):
in any of these places. Ever, you don't eat the
fish out of there, you catch the fish, you throw
them back, and you wash your hands because yeah, and
like and I was on the crew team and we
were like on that water, and you know what, we
didn't do get it anywhere near our faces.

Speaker 2 (02:06:34):
Like and then you know, you gotta you just it's
what you gotta do, right, Okay, fast forward to.

Speaker 1 (02:06:46):
Brainworm carrying vessel and supposed human being Secretary of Health
and Human Services Robert F. Kennedy Junior. Now, one of
the things about Kennedy's is that they have an expiration date.
He's outlived his, and he's very very upset about that,
so he's trying really hard to cause it to happen.

(02:07:11):
Over Mother's Day weekend, he took his grandkids to go
play in Rock Creek and took videos of it, and
he went and got underwater.

Speaker 2 (02:07:23):
And he was wearing jeans.

Speaker 3 (02:07:25):
That's crazier.

Speaker 1 (02:07:29):
The only hope here is that he's actually upstream enough
that he's not in the part of it. But during
the time that he was in there, it's not good.

Speaker 3 (02:07:44):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (02:07:45):
Rock Creek Park has like these safety warnings that they
put out.

Speaker 1 (02:07:50):
The water might look clean and clear, but it's hiding
a lot of bacteria like fecal coliform, giardia and other
potential water borne illnesses. Reads a warning about Rock Creek
safety that appeared in the Racial Park Service website. It
appears that the warning was posted several years ago. It's
always up. You know why they've never taken it down
because it's always true. Testing showed that during the time

(02:08:14):
that he was in the water, it was elevated E.
Coli and the fecal coliform.

Speaker 2 (02:08:22):
Event.

Speaker 1 (02:08:23):
So you know, do with that which you will pray
accordingly however you feel best suits your vision of the future.
Just you know, go ahead, okay, test, Let's let you
expound on your your guy man Leo.

Speaker 3 (02:08:48):
Leo or Robert Francis Prevos, the Chicago born man who
became Pope Leo the fourteenth on Thursday, has black family
roots in New Orleans, Louisianas aforementioned earlier this show. ABC
News has obtained several records, including US Census records from
the early nineteen hundreds, demonstrating that the first American Polk

(02:09:10):
family tree reflects a complex racial history of this country.
Who know that means long? Hopefully you know the fourteen's
maternal grandparents, Joseph Martinez and Louis is this beckwe yeah, yeah,
maybe described me are described as a black or mullato

(02:09:38):
in several census documents. Mulatto is the creat one of
the craziest ones, because I'm pretty sure that mulatto is
either a derivative from like what is it like the
baby that it's the mule, right if the dog in
the house and the house the horse ends up having
a baby, ends up being a mule, and that cannot

(02:10:01):
have babies, and they thought that mulatto people's because it's
crazy mixing couldn't have babies. I remember like in a
history class, same as in college, and professor like, we're
gonna talk about this, but this is why we don't
say this anymore, because we need to talk about really
what this actually means. That's right, Sorry for that. Tangent

(02:10:21):
just won't let you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (02:10:23):
We're here to educate.

Speaker 3 (02:10:24):
We're here to educate. On their eighteen eighty seven marriage license,
Martinez listened his birthplace is Haiti. Oh god, yeah, theming
and the birth records show that he was born and
s oh there it is Anto Dominco, Dominican Republic. Chris
mothers professional genealogists for fifteen years. Historian studying in Simmons

(02:10:46):
University told ABC News that there were the same territories
at the time that back Quays. Birth records shown she
was born in New Orleans on the nineteen hundred census,
while his family lived in New Orleans. Both Leo the
fourteenth maternal grandparents and his aunts Irma and Margaret were

(02:11:06):
identified as black. However, in nineteen twenty the family migrated
Chicago and had the pope and had the Pope's mother, Mildred.
That decades census reflected their race as white. Like so
many families fleeing the South of the time, they could
have shifted the racial identity smothers called there's a common
survival strategy at the time. So there's a lot of

(02:11:27):
things here, right, So it's like all right, right, the
Pope I always talk about how Haiti like overthrowing the
French and becoming the first black republic, Like this kicks
off everything else in the rest of the world. Right,
It's one of those starting points, right, because one Napoleon's like, hey, Tom,

(02:11:52):
you can have the rest of this America.

Speaker 2 (02:11:54):
You want, you want some half of a country.

Speaker 1 (02:11:56):
Of course, yeah, you can have the rest of this
by a bunch of Indians that we don't understand how
to talk to.

Speaker 3 (02:12:05):
So yeah, you guys can figure that piece out. We
know what you'll probably do. We see what you did
before three cents of an acre or whatever. Exactly. Yeah,
I think it's fifteen million dollars. I think it's what
is the purchase price for that, right, So that's the
Louisiana purchase, right, which gives you what is modern day America?
Right along with that, I can only I was literally

(02:12:25):
having this conversation of the day, maybe yesterday, two days ago,
and I was like, imagine, right, these Haitian slave owners
are fleeing Haiti because it's went again, it's become a
black republic. They're burning shit down, they're killing fucking the
frenchmen at a high clip. But they escape right with
their slaves, and they make it into New Orleans, right,

(02:12:47):
because it's the place you obviously are going, right, it's
a melting pot at that point.

Speaker 2 (02:12:52):
It's French Joe.

Speaker 3 (02:12:53):
Yeah, it's French controlled at a certain point as well, Right,
And you get there and you're like, yeah, I won't
believe what's happening on the Island right now, and then
they're having that story. But not only that, the slaves
are now going and you are a slave that has
made it in here to write to the New Orleans

(02:13:14):
and now.

Speaker 2 (02:13:14):
You're telling that story to other slaves, and.

Speaker 3 (02:13:18):
Right that becomes a rallying cry, right really for liberation.
I mean even if you think about like just starting
of the Civil War and like a lot of those
slave rebellions, this all comes from hate, right, And just
to tie this all in then with the Great Migration,
because that's how they end up going to Chicago. It's

(02:13:39):
the quintessential American story. It's the American black story right here.

Speaker 16 (02:13:46):
And it's tied in with the leader of the Catholic Church,
which is still a huge part of like Haitian culture
and society.

Speaker 3 (02:13:56):
Yeah, like huge.

Speaker 2 (02:13:58):
How you know, the French Catholic reach is is tremendous.

Speaker 1 (02:14:05):
That it's bouncing off the Caribbean through the American South
up to Chicago and back to Rome is incredible.

Speaker 2 (02:14:14):
Yeah, And that it's doing it it you know, tinted.

Speaker 3 (02:14:19):
Yeah, I want to let the globe listen, know, Yeah,
I just.

Speaker 1 (02:14:24):
You know, you know what this is going to turn into,
right because every time he does anything, the right wing
is going to interpret this as well. Of course he
would he's black, or you know, any now, he can't
screw up. He can't, he can't make a mistake, right
because he's black. And then it's gonna drag everybody back

(02:14:46):
down while we had a black pope and look at
what happened.

Speaker 3 (02:14:49):
We'll see if they lean towards that, or if someone
starts to bring that up, or if people are so
much to the point where it's like they don't talk
about this at all because they don't want to acknowledge it.
I think it.

Speaker 1 (02:15:03):
I think it's something that that especially since the church
is growing in Africa and growing in the global South,
that it's a thing that they're going to probably point
to as as a way to gain credibility.

Speaker 3 (02:15:16):
We'll see, I don't know, We'll see if that ends
up happening. I don't know, Like, because even at this
point right now, they don't leave him. They say he's
the the least American pope, right like, because his time
he obviously spent in uh in South America and everything,
and he spent a lot of time in in in
Rome as well, right like, But he's still American. He's
grew up here, right.

Speaker 1 (02:15:36):
He's a white American, a white socks, a white Sox fan.
Speaking of which sports, Hey, Jordan Hudson who spells her
name wrong? Uh it's placed in the uh round. Yeah,

(02:15:57):
Miss Main USA Pageant. She's twenty four years old.

Speaker 2 (02:16:01):
She came in third. You know her boyfriend Bill Belichick
was there in the audience. She came in third in Maine.
Oh is that who won? Shelby Howell they make Shelby's
in Maine? Or did she move there?

Speaker 3 (02:16:21):
Yeah? It's interesting.

Speaker 2 (02:16:23):
I boy, I usually in breeding doesn't come out looking
like that.

Speaker 1 (02:16:29):
I bet you she moved there. Okay, population of Maine
is seven. Anyway, she came in third. She she was
in the same pageant last year. She did better last year.
I think she got in she came in second. So
you know, she's sliding. And I think while Bill's at

(02:16:51):
the UNC, he's got a venture and find somebody who's
still twenty four and no one.

Speaker 3 (02:16:59):
I think Bill Belichick might be a hostage to Yeah,
you think to the reporting on this, which is like,
I mean, this is kind of like some like smut
story stuff like oh yeah from People magazine. This is
not legitimate journeys, feel like. But there is a lot
of reporting on this of what's going on, and it's

(02:17:22):
very interesting. I will say that it's it is what
I can't it's it's tabloid shit, right, But you do,
like if you break down a lot of things of
like coaches not being a distraction, and if you think
about this in like the football terms, and like I
posit here that he never coaches a game at you

(02:17:42):
UNC and the buyout, the buyout will be a million
dollars for him in the next few weeks. And yeah,
I don't think he ever coaches, and maybe he.

Speaker 1 (02:17:51):
Was a real football school, the boosters would definitely be
talking about buying him out.

Speaker 2 (02:17:56):
I'm not sure that that push exists.

Speaker 1 (02:18:00):
It's there, and I mean they banned Hudson from like
practices or whatever because she's kind of.

Speaker 3 (02:18:08):
But they're kind of said that they didn't do it though,
Like there was like a report that ended coming out
of be like no, she's like she's welcome to do
belichick Belichick's like social media and stuff like that, like
almost like, yeah, we kicked her out, but like she's
still involved. I don't know, but as man as that,
like the fact that.

Speaker 1 (02:18:26):
They have to even address it or talk about it
tells you that there's a problem here and and that
you know, I mean, it's already weird. And then the
level of control that it appears that she's exercising over
his life does feel strange.

Speaker 3 (02:18:42):
Yeah, and like again, remove the I don't even want
to talk about the age difference and all that. You
can just set that aside and go have your own
feelings about that. I'm literally talking about, like the actions
like that CBS Sunday Morning interview really weird, very weird.
The ring camera footage that ends up getting leaked earlier.

(02:19:03):
If that happened I think last year maybe on there,
it's like who leaked that? Yeah, right, there's only one source. Yeah,
there's reporting that his family is very worried about him.

Speaker 2 (02:19:18):
I'm worried about him, and I don't like him.

Speaker 3 (02:19:20):
I want to say, yeah, I mean, his son's his
son's wife hasn't had favorable things to say about Jordan.

Speaker 2 (02:19:30):
It's a weird thing. It's a very weird thing.

Speaker 3 (02:19:36):
It's weird.

Speaker 2 (02:19:37):
So whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:19:39):
Speaking of the White Sox shoeles, Joe Jackson and another
famously banned from baseball, individual are unbanned. Pete Rose Charlie
Hustle is now eligible for the Hall of Fame, where
he belongs because he's the greatest hitter of all time.

(02:20:01):
And he was banned for a lifetime from baseball for
betting on baseball. Not that he ever bet against himself.
He'll only bet on himself in the instances where he did.
And I don't find that there's anything wrong with that.
But now the DraftKings owns major League Baseball, they're totally
like whatever. He served his lifetime ban because he died,

(02:20:22):
and now now he's lifetime ban is lifetime, so he's
he's But truly, Joe Jackson's been dead for a long time.

Speaker 2 (02:20:33):
What Okay, these guys were banned for betting on baseball.

Speaker 1 (02:20:37):
Jackson was banned because he was on the that Black
Sopper team in uh In in the twenties that basically
threw a World Series. Uh they got paid off to
do so dead ball? Yeah, in the dead ball era, right?
It them doing that changed baseball. I mean it wasn't
just that they that they threw the World Series, but

(02:20:58):
like that changed They changed the speed of the game,
It changed the way that the game was played. It
changed pitching forever. So say what you will about that.
Also field to dreams, you know whatever. But Pete Rose
is a thing that is in living memory. People have
a lot of opinions about him. I grew up, you know,

(02:21:19):
being told of the cautionary tale of Pete Rose, and
you know this is why you don't bet on baseball,
and that it's this sacred thing, and this is what happens,
that the greatest hitter is not in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 3 (02:21:30):
The first thing I did when I went to Las
Vegas was bet the over on the Marna. The first
thing I did.

Speaker 1 (02:21:36):
You're not to bet on baseball, says God and everybody watching,
apparently the Pope, so like, you know, he's a black
pope though, so you can decide whether you have to
listen to him or not.

Speaker 2 (02:21:47):
I don't know if.

Speaker 1 (02:21:50):
I'm glad I want Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame.
I don't want to have to keep explaining for the
rest of people who don't understand baseball how you can
have somebody with who's statistically.

Speaker 2 (02:22:00):
The greatest, who's not allowed to be counted as statistically
the greatest, Like, can we can we put his numbers
back in the in the record.

Speaker 4 (02:22:09):
But there's a problem, of.

Speaker 2 (02:22:12):
Course, Brian has a problem with this.

Speaker 4 (02:22:13):
No, I don't have a problem. I've been with this
for a very long time. I have been.

Speaker 2 (02:22:21):
Charlie.

Speaker 4 (02:22:23):
Yeah, I've been for Charlie Hustle since even when the
you know, back then when.

Speaker 2 (02:22:28):
Wait play the breaking news thing.

Speaker 3 (02:22:31):
Breaking news.

Speaker 2 (02:22:31):
Brian agrees with Tens and Chip on things that are
fun about baseball.

Speaker 4 (02:22:38):
I've had I remember having a good debate with my
dad about this and he threw it, you know, throws back.
I mean, he's been on baseball. He's not supposed to
and it's like I get that. But one he was
a manager when he when he got caught, which is
understand which I get, you just shouldn't do it. But

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like you said, he's our hit king. And there's a
plethora of all the Hall of Fame. In every Hall
of Fame, there's some dark pass that every person has
someone done drugs, someone's been abusive, someone whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:23:19):
Being was a massive racist.

Speaker 4 (02:23:22):
Yeah, all that stuff. So betting on baseball, especially where
you're not supposed to do it, He's got to the
point where it's like I kind of felt like, all right,
is this really serious? Is this a really serious offense
and then go ahead.

Speaker 2 (02:23:42):
It'd be different if like what Shoeles Joe Jackson did
where he threw games.

Speaker 3 (02:23:46):
Well, here's the thing.

Speaker 4 (02:23:48):
If you remember if speaking of Shoe was Joe Jackson.
You ever seeing the movie Eight Men Out? No, but
I know about it, Okay, So besides the book, and
there is a book, so test you can read that
in the movie. But it even though Sudley Show Jackson

(02:24:09):
was a part of it, he wasn't a part.

Speaker 2 (02:24:13):
Of it, right, He wasn't orchestrating it.

Speaker 4 (02:24:15):
Yeah, he wasn't an orchestra and he was just the
most notable player who's he really pretty much was like
he still played like normal. He just somehow he's just
you know, people fed the money for it, and pretty
much the rest of the guys they're the ones who
pretty much threw the game. So but overall, I felt like,

(02:24:38):
you know, I felt like the lifetime ban is just like, Okay,
they're just you know, they're never going to be honored
at all if they ever get in and dead for
sixty years, right, And now you get Pete Rose who
died you know, just in this past September, and I'm
and I read somewhere where Robert Banford was quote unquote

(02:24:59):
pressure shared by a certain Orange peel.

Speaker 3 (02:25:03):
To allow this.

Speaker 4 (02:25:05):
That's just right now, I feel like it's a rumor mill.
But that time, at the same time, there's been you know,
when he Rose was allowed to come back for the
All Century Team honor at the All Star Game in
Boston and they were still pitching for him to come back.

(02:25:26):
Then I felt pretty much a lot of the oppositions
was sadly from his own teammate. And no, it's notably
Johnny Bench because he's a die hard Loybilist. But now
that since this band has been lifted, the where I
say there's a problem is it's not gonna be from

(02:25:47):
you know, his former teammates or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (02:25:50):
Writers, they're not they're not voting him in anyways.

Speaker 4 (02:25:56):
Yeah, and those guys are you talking about anal.

Speaker 3 (02:26:03):
Baseball could get. But Baseball has that other method where
they after a certain amount of years, where like the
writers don't necessarily I forgot, we have committees, committees that
will end up putting.

Speaker 4 (02:26:15):
Yeah, they have special committees, but sometimes some of those
committees are those who were Baseball writers were transferred over
into that, and mind you, there are some players too.
So my thing is is like not having your home
run king and your hit king and the all in
the in the in the Baseball Hall of Fame does

(02:26:36):
not make sense. And it's highly unfortunate that base off
of You know.

Speaker 1 (02:26:45):
I don't want to put Bonds in the same category
of with Rose, because what Rose did was bet on
himself to win, right, And he didn't do anything that
altered the way that he ran up those hits, which
he got all as a as a player or not
as a manager.

Speaker 3 (02:27:01):
What did but at the same but at the same time,
you can say.

Speaker 4 (02:27:05):
With Bonds he was allowed to use products that were
pretty much okay, approved by the Major League Baseball and
for whatever reason, all the writers are happy to write
about him and his run Sammy Sosen.

Speaker 3 (02:27:21):
Because he looks because he looks at he looks at
Sammy Sosa and Mark maguire and says, oh, wait, hold on, wait,
this is what people like they're gonna be allowed to
do this. And I'm obviously a better baseball player than
those two individuals and a bunch of other people. No, no, no,
let me let me show you how when you're really

(02:27:42):
good and then when you add this, when you add
this again, performance enhancing, I'm gonna take it to a
different stratosphere, which he obviously did. But here's the thing, though,
is this the whole of morality? Because if it's the
whole of morality, and yeah, Pete rowe shouldn't be sucking
in there because let's do the sexual assault and there's
other things we could go down the road, fan, But

(02:28:04):
it's not the hall of morality, right, it's the Hall
of fame, right.

Speaker 4 (02:28:08):
And the numbers and the stats and the careers and
all that stuff. I mean, I felt like like, if
you just base it off of that, he's in.

Speaker 2 (02:28:17):
Yes, you need deserves to be in it.

Speaker 1 (02:28:19):
But do you think that the writers who are you know,
these purists to write dumb articles about how bat flipping
is ruining baseball are gonna like give.

Speaker 2 (02:28:28):
Up and let him in. They're gonna be shitty about
that too, unless.

Speaker 4 (02:28:31):
Unless you get to the point where no one can Again,
this is where you can throw this go back into
the prior story about the africaners.

Speaker 3 (02:28:41):
These are generationalists.

Speaker 4 (02:28:42):
These are people who pretty much you know, are getting
keep being fed about certain stories about certain players, about
certain times and they're gonna be told, don't put this
person in because this person did this, this person did that.
And I think that's that's the sad influence and because
unless you know, you get those writers who have the

(02:29:06):
you know, the distinctive no haul to say, hey, I'm
going to vote who I want to vote, and I
want to put the guy who I feel is going
to put person in. The sad thing is that's why
we're getting a lot of these young, you know, these
newer generational people coming into the halls, those who only
been retired less than five years.

Speaker 3 (02:29:27):
Mind you, their numbers are worthy.

Speaker 4 (02:29:29):
But at the same time, it's like you've got a
whole bunch of guys who who've been waiting in the
wings for like twenty years, being even longer. And at
this sad thing here is with Pete Rose, is like
the only people are gonna if he does get in,
only his family members are gonna remember it, not Pete.
And I think that, that, to me, to this day,

(02:29:49):
I feel is an injustice because it's like he deserves
to be there, he deserves to make his speech. Hint
his way where.

Speaker 3 (02:29:59):
I rather he said this quotes to this him, he said, yeah,
if you put me in. He said, that's not how
the Hall of Fame should work. No, that's not what
you're you should be done in that kid.

Speaker 2 (02:30:10):
This is so in honor of Pete Rose.

Speaker 1 (02:30:13):
I think what we ought to do is take a
bet on when he'll make it in, if it'll be
first ballot or what's he over under here?

Speaker 3 (02:30:22):
No, I think he makes it in one of these committees.

Speaker 1 (02:30:25):
You don't think he gets voted in by the writers
at all. Okay, I'll bet you. I'll bet you on that, Brian,
if this committee.

Speaker 3 (02:30:34):
It will be probably within ten years. Ten years sounds good.

Speaker 1 (02:30:39):
So you're going to say by committee within ten years, Yeah,
you'll it'll not be sooner than that.

Speaker 2 (02:30:44):
Okay, I'll take that bet too. So ten years from now,
you guys have maybe owe me a beer.

Speaker 3 (02:30:52):
DraftKings call us.

Speaker 2 (02:30:54):
Yeah, right, but figure not a way to make a
prop bet on.

Speaker 3 (02:30:59):
We're open business.

Speaker 2 (02:31:02):
We'll do your live reads. We're funnier than Kevin Harty. Okay,
your draft teams network.

Speaker 3 (02:31:10):
That's right.

Speaker 1 (02:31:11):
Now we've come to the end of the show. We
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Speaker 3 (02:31:49):
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