Trump is on the Epstein beer list

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Speaker 1 (00:46):
It is, and I'm thirty on a Thursday night and
you're a chief in the Beltway Radio beyond, which canning
what an only thing? This is Chip Chad, Welcome to
chip Chat everybody. I'm Chip. Who are you Brian? I
think I'm Brian. I'm not sure. Yeah, this is a

(01:07):
special edition because you're here. Yeah, since last learned two
weeks ago. I wasn't. I was in the middle background
of a mystic sea. Yeah, last show. So it wasn't
last week. We were off last week, but the week
before that was. It was a crazy show because we
had to do it like without without Brian, and that sucks.

Speaker 2 (01:36):
I did well for those who saw the clips, you know,
they've been posting the last couple of hours or so.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
I mean, you guys did. Okay, we appreciate. That's very
kind of you to say, but it was. You know,
it's one of those things like you don't always miss
it till it's gone, kind of things like uh yeah,
we we we need you, Brian, we need you in

(02:07):
our lives. So that's where we are. Okay. So and
then Tess, I guess is on assignment. Yeah, very painful one. Yeah,
he apparently has a headache, or that's at least what
he told his wife. Well, damn, that's wrong. That's still

(02:27):
a thing because anybody ever did, because why do you
guys don't say that. It's like I have a headache.
I don't know if yeah right, No, guys, do not
use the headache excuse. We make up other things that
are okay. So this is a like super newsy week.

(02:49):
We have had just a deluge of stuff, so we're
gonna try to get to a lot of it, but
we are gonna make stuff. So just heads up on that.
Trump is fighting to keep the Epstein files out of
the public view for no reason whatsoever, none at all.

(03:10):
Apparently his lawyers are getting canned in several states. His
Secretary of Defense is a security risk, which we already
knew that, but now we have a little more details
on it. And the go made the news. Now if
you don't know what that is or why I would

(03:30):
be excited. That's was called the General Accounting Office, it's
now called the Government Accountability Office, and that's the agency
my work at. So I'm always excited to play to
hear about JO and the news. And technically speaking, I

(03:53):
am a member of the champion ship, champion team of
the Jeo Softball League, and we will forever remain champions
because the league disbanded after COVID and never came back,
and we were the champs when that happened, So we

(04:14):
will remain the champs. Okay, yeah, champions. We're the perma champs.
That's what we say. Yeah. So anyway, Okay, trouble is
even bigger in Texas. Everything is bigger in Texas. Stephen Colbert,
he's uh, he's about to have like you know, he's

(04:35):
gonna for a while. Yeah, I mean, he's okay, so
he basically has like ten months to speak his mind
and then he's gonna be afraid to do whatever he wants.
And so far it's been fantastic. I've been watching the monologues.
So we're gonna talk about that. I think we all
have a lot of feelings about that. Treyon's back in

(04:57):
the news. Who knew who new in in like a
predictable but very weird way. So we're gonna get to that.
So it's it's gonna be a wild show. Plus we
have headlines. We're gonna make Brian read some headlines. Me
I can read Okay, do you we know you can read?
Do you want to if it's up to you? Okay, So, yeah,

(05:20):
it's gonna be a big show. Brian, do you do
you have a word? Do you want to do the
word thing? I got a word, brother, Oh no, Yeah,
we're gonna get to that too. Okay, let me see. Yeah,
I'm gonna go with Okay, I got a word. Okay, okay,

(05:42):
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(06:49):
to chip Chat. You're on but du and Beyond I Girls.
Chip with me? Is Brian somewhere in the background. I'm
back there. Got a lot of dudes. So I'm catching
up for the last two weeks. Yeah, he's catching up.
He's he's had he Look, Brian did an amazing thing

(07:10):
actually two weeks ago, which we we alluded to, but
unbelievable producing in transit. It is a feet of modern
technology and also Brian being better than all of the
other producers. So thank you. I mean, I don't I
don't want to discount what all of the other production

(07:33):
staff on this show do. But Brian's the best one
of them. I tried by this. Yeah, okay, So now
we've got to the headlines. Uh, this is where we
tell you about some headlines. You want to do the
first one?

Speaker 2 (07:51):
Brian sure honese get to the script?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Yes, all right?

Speaker 2 (08:01):
Her first headline over one of the Dakota's probably the
West One commercial Airline had to take evasive maneuvers to
get around a incoming B fifty two. The play landed
safely and the passengers were able to make their plan
trip to the Love Shack.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Yes, so B fifty two's joke. Congress voted to suck
up federal funding for foreign aid in public radio and television.
This marks the most recent time the GOP Congress sucked
up the Trump sucked them real hard. Okay.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
Congress's audit agency, the GAO, which we mentioned in our
opening the General Accountability Office which there is none, ruled
that for a third time, the Trump administration had broken
the law against impounding appropriated funding. Trump responded, those guys
are gaos, and not that there is anything wrong.

Speaker 1 (09:04):
With that, That's right. Coca Cola announced that they would
start using cane sugar in their flagship soda, drawing high
praise from RFK Junior. Donald Trump Junior, on the other hand,
is still waiting for them to go back to using cocaine.

Speaker 2 (09:19):
Just a little alence, that's all they mean. Um okay back.
Speaking of rfkj uh, for years he has called sugar poison,
so his recent embrace of Coke's decision comes as a
bit of surprise until you remember that Kennedy is a lunatic.

Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yes, an overly canned, fake blonde septaginearian Florida man tied
to fake wrestling died this week. Unfortunately for millennia, it
was a whole cogan. Sorry, brother, um trump Uh waited
wadded what do you call it?

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Into the Washington football teams naming controversy, declaring that the
commanders should change their name to anything so long as
it wasn't Epstein.

Speaker 1 (10:09):
That's right, which I think we're going to try to
talk about that a little later too, a little bit. Yeah, yeah,
all right. A new bomb show report in the Washington
Post ties Volkswagen to slave labor camps, and this time
it's in Brazil. Oh ouch, I can tell that joke.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
The reports details how the camps use slave labor to
clear land, and then man is a herd of one
hundred thousand cattle.

Speaker 1 (10:41):
How a slave labor? Ask mcdonaldson yes, in a desperate
bid to help donald remember her name. Republicans have proposed
naming the Kennedy Center opera house after Milania, but critics
say that won't work, so they will be naming a
strip club after her instead.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
Okay, this certainly won't make Opper popular more popular?

Speaker 1 (11:06):
Say One of the fans in the said, the one
f one fan, and that one fan is with small hands. Yes.
The Ruper Murdoch owned Wall Street Journal reported that Trump
drew a naked woman in sharpie and then wrote a
bit of weird imagined dialogue inside of it with a typewriter,

(11:27):
and then signed the doodle with his signature as the
pubic care. This was on an executive.

Speaker 2 (11:33):
Order Okay, just kidding. This was in the birthfect card
he wrote for Jeffrey Epstein. Trump has filed suit against
the journal, claiming he doesn't write pictures, despite the dozen
he has drawn and sold over the years, especially crappy
eye stuff one which could be yours if you call

(11:54):
one eight hundred Chipchat right now and give us your
credit card right.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
Coldplay shocked the world by revealing that they still had
fans as two of them were caught cuddling on the
Kiss camp. It was revealed later that the cameras had
actually caught a secret affair between a CEO and his
head of HR, which apparently stands for Home Records.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
And finally, still in Florida, we love Florida and we
love this guy. Governor Ronda Santis announced that he would
be shutting down Alligator Alcatraz okay when he found out
it was a migrant detention camp and not a new
outlet store for him to buy more Go Go boots.

Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yes, go back to our old show. There's plenty of
looks of that one. Yeah. Right, you can search Chipchat
and Ron de Santa's boots and you'll find all kinds
of good stuff. All Right, that's some pretty good headlines
for this week. You want to just do the next
segment and then we'll take a break. Sor right, let's
go to the next segment. Let's do it. We're not

(12:59):
gonna do it straight through like we did the last.
All right, So let's talk about Trump's legal troubles. There's
a lot of them. It's hard to choose which ones
to talk about, so we picked a few. What we're
going to talk about here is about US attorneys for
various districts. The US attorney there are ninety three US

(13:22):
attorneys if you wanted to know. Their job is to
be the top federal prosecutor in a given area. So
sometimes those regions are like a whole state. Sometimes they're
like chunks of a state. So like for example, Virginia
has I think two, there's the Eastern District, in the

(13:43):
Western District, there's New York has four of them. Four
US attorneys in New York, so and New Jersey just
has the one. It's a pretty small state, so they
only need one. And like we said, New York has four,
So we're gonna talk about two of them, one being
New Jersey, one being New York. Part of the thing

(14:04):
about US attorneys is they have to be Senate confirmed.
So the President nominates somebody, the Senate has to confirm them.
If the President can't get somebody Senate confirmed, somebody still
has to fill that role. And there's two ways that
can happen. Way number one is what's called an interim
US attorney where they appoint somebody and that appointment is

(14:24):
good only for one hundred and twenty days or until
somebody is Senate confirmed. That's it. There's no extensions unilaterally
by the president. Can't just keep appointing the same person
for an interim or whatever. So like Janine Piro is
currently serving as the interim US attorney for the District
of Columbia, which is crazy and weird, but that is

(14:46):
also a thing that is happening because that is the
timeline that we live in now. So we're going to
talk about somebody who you might remember. Her name is
Alena Haba. Now you probably remember her. Oh my god, Brian,
I mean, mind you see, I think she's hot, but

(15:07):
this is the most hot. It's by far the least
flattering photo I've ever seen of her. Scared the crap
out of me, all right, So Lena Hava. Yeah, she
rose to prominent as Trump's defense lawyer in the civil cases,

(15:29):
especially the Egene Carroll case and some other things. She
did a very bad job at all of those cases.
She lost all of them, and she routinely got lacked
out of court by the judge because she kept trying
to motion things or propose things that were like made

(15:49):
up and not legal stuff. I don't think she's a
real lawyer, but that tracks and Brian thinks she's hot.
So Brian's got a thing for Republican women.

Speaker 2 (16:03):
I think, oh, sadly, you know, we can go on
a tiring but honestly, I mean, in a weird way,
some of the hottest women are in the Republican side.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
There's also like that Maga botox look are you in that? Ye? Yeah,
so that's a weird look. I don't yeah, it looks
weird anyway. So she was appointed to be the US
Attorney for New Jersey, and the problem is she's never
been a prosecutor before. Ever, she's never tried a single

(16:34):
case as a prosecutor, so she wasn't very good at
that job. She came into the job and told everybody
that her job was to make New Jersey a very
blue state red, which is not the US attorney's job
at all. The US attorney's job is to prosecute crimes
that happened in that district. Has nothing to do. It's

(16:55):
it's usually thought of as a relatively a political role,
you know. It the only like shades of politics in
this is like kind of what the focus of the
office is. Democrat US attorneys tend to focus on civil
rights violations and Republican US attorneys tend to focus more

(17:15):
on like voting voter restriction stuff. But other than that,
like the prosecutorial aspect of it or the criminal you know,
like they're like the super DA, right, they're not. There's
not a lot of politics usually involved in a US
attorney role. So that was weird that she said that. Okay,

(17:41):
remember how we said that, like you can only serve
as US attorney for one hundred and twenty days on
an interim basis, So she's coming up on her one
hundred and twenty days. And there's some question about when
the one hundred and twenty days started. Did it start
when Trump tweeted that he was nominated her or did
it start when she swore in in that role. It's

(18:04):
not clear. There's like about a four day discrepancy, so
and that would be like yesterday would be the day
or Tuesday maybe. So if you are appointed US Attorney
and as an interim and nobody has said it confirmed
in that period of time, when you get to that

(18:26):
one hundred twenty days. What happens? Do you know? As
far as I know, you're it's like you're out, So yeah,
you are, unless the federal judges within your district, in
this case being the federal judges in the entire New

(18:48):
Jersey district, vote to keep you in that role until
somebody else can fill it, because, like we're talking about,
this isn't a political role. Usually it is very important
to always have somebody in this role running this office
because crime happens all the time. There's all kinds of

(19:09):
stuff that the US attorney needs to be focused on
in their given districts. Regardless of interim not interim or whatever. Right,
they still have a prosecutorial function to run, so most
of the time, almost all of the time, again because
it's usually a relatively neutral thing, and usually the people

(19:33):
appointed to these roles are like people who have either
served as assistant US attorneys or have some long history
maybe as a state ag or something like that, where
they have been a top prosecutor for a long time.
So normally the judges in the district vote to keep
that person in place until somebody gets filled because it's

(19:53):
usually just like an administrative issue. We're waiting for the
Senate to come back or you know, with the nomination
still you know, being held up and committee because they're
waiting to do some other work or whatever. So we
got to the one twenty and the judges in New
Jersey voted to do what.

Speaker 2 (20:12):
They picked this lovely lady and uh yeah, and.

Speaker 1 (20:19):
She's more confident, I believe, so, so yeah, yeah, they
they they said no to Hava. They kicked her out,
and then they they picked uh. I think her name
is Desiree that yea. She has served in that US
Attorney's office for like a decade, worked her way up

(20:43):
through the system, is a lot, was a line prosecutor,
has a long history of working in that and so
they're like, nope, we're picking her instead. And the Justice
Department was like, nahh we're firing her. We're putting Haaba
in there. And the judges are like, no, no, we

(21:06):
didn't vote for that. And you can't just like reappoint
the same person on day one hundred and twenty one
and be like, oh, well they get another twenty days. No,
doesn't work that way. So as of Tuesday evening, when
this story was kind of breaking, right, it's not clear
whether or how the judges will seek to enforce their decision,

(21:28):
because they did leave a little wiggle room here. They
said that the new appointment would start one hundred and
twenty days after whatever day they want to pick, because
there was some argument about the tweet or the swearing in.
So basically tomorrow, I think is the cutoff where we'll

(21:49):
know that then okay, by law, Attorney Grace is in
and Haba's out. But by practice, let's see what happens
if the DOJ is just like no, Hobb is still
in that role the judges. The judges don't have any

(22:11):
mechanism to enforce anything, right. We've talked about that all
the time, about how like court orders have to be
enforced by the executive branch, and specifically, in this case,
it would be the DJ that would have to force it.
So like, how would the judges rule or force the
DOJ to abide by their role? They could basically hold
somebody in contempt, maybe Bondie. I don't know. This is

(22:33):
a totally wild new place to be in, but it
is sort of indicative of this consistent example of the
Trump administration just not following the law, not respecting the
role of the judiciary.

Speaker 2 (22:51):
So it's more not it's not I think the wrong
word using is not respecting it. They're just just totally
not respecting the fact that it's like, look, she she
did her one twenty. We don't want her anymore. We
got somebody else to fill in that role, accept it

(23:11):
or not. We're this is what we're doing. And and
they're and they don't respect that. And I think that's
where we've been through for a very long time with
Donald Trump, and not as that, not as just a president,
as a person in general.

Speaker 1 (23:25):
He just him and the law do not mix. Yeah,
and they're it's not like they're pretending they don't know. Yeah,
they're they're just flatly ignoring. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:38):
There again, this is this is coming from I mean,
this is like I want her in there, you need
your in here. It's it sounds like a little kid
who wants want there. You know, they're this person to
be in here, and it's like, dude, no, and he
and he cannot accept that. Him and you know him
and his lackey's just can't accept the word know anymore.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Well. And I'm also a little surprised that, you know,
they know how the calendar works, so they know that
this date was coming up. Why didn't they move? They
know that Hobbit can't make it through center confirmation, there's
no way, because everybody there thinks that she's a dummy.
But why wouldn't they have somebody else ready to go? Right?
They clearly could find another hacky, maga trump trumpy lawyer

(24:24):
who might even have some prosecutorial experience, who they could
slot into that role, you know anyway, right.

Speaker 2 (24:33):
No, I think they ran out because I think the
only logical next person would have been you know, former
mayor with the brown drip.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
You'll take it to spot. So I mean.

Speaker 2 (24:47):
Again, this, this, this, this group of idiots just did
not understand anything. They will pick anybody if he doesn't
see him on TV or hasn't associated with him, and
in some weird function, he's not gonna put him in there.

Speaker 1 (25:05):
And he's you know, like the point is Caddy or
whatever to do.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
It's like no, it's I mean, look, we've been we've
been seeing this for too long, and I and I
just weirdly wish, you know, I just wish we weren't
in the skit right now.

Speaker 1 (25:22):
But we're we're kind of like running out of like
trumpy lawyers too, because you know, he burns so many
of them, right, you'll hire them and then he doesn't
pay them, and they they turn on him. They they
write books or they you know, dish all the stuff
that about like what he did or what he didn't do.

(25:42):
You know. The only ones that we know that are
still like with him. There's Emil beauve Bove, who they're
trying to nominate for a judge position for a federal
on the federal bench, who while he was working in
the DJ just this most recent go round, told his office,
We're going to tell the courts fuck you and not

(26:02):
to do what they say. And we've got a whistleblower
account of that, we've got written accounts of that, we've
got probably tape of it. I'm sure it's going to
come out. There's Todd Blanche who was his defense lawyer
in New York who lost on thirty four counts of felony,
who's now serving as the Deputy Attorney General in the DJ,
is the number two in DJ. There's Bondi, who is

(26:26):
now at the top of the DJ but worked for
Trump in a personal capacity. And there's Hava and there's
like we're just out of Trump lawyers, Like he's all
the other ones have quit on him because he is
a terrible client and like does things to undermine your

(26:46):
work as a lawyer and then also keeps criming all
the time. This is a very difficult thing to do.
He's the worst client to have.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
I've seen a lot of you know, court shows out
of you, and.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
They always say they always have this moral dilemma of
having a client that is, you know, having you.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
Know, done all these a laundry list of crimes. And
he figured it's like I have to defend him, you
know why why should.

Speaker 1 (27:17):
I defend him? How to behave himself in court? Yeah,
you know, like Trump can't even do that. No, And
I think that the thing is is like you you
for whatever reason, is like I can picture in my mind,
especially when it came to during when he got convicted
for the thirty four balalty charges, he was trying to

(27:39):
dictate that entire thing. You can kind of tell even
though you never saw it, but it felt like, you know,
he was trying to be his own lawyer.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
But even though he had you know, you know how
about be the representative. But really it was kind of like.

Speaker 1 (27:56):
In that one. But what he did through that was
sleep and then go out and have these press conferences
where he would yell at the press and call the
judge names and stuff, and like Blanche just had to
stand there next to him and like, you know, he
wanted to be like, hey, man, stop calling the judge
a fuckhead, Like that's not helping our case. But he

(28:19):
can't because he Todd Blanche is a shitty lawyer too,
Like he's not good at this job. Speaking of lawyers
who are not good at their job, Remember how I
mentioned that there's four districts in New York. One of
them is the Northern District, which is where Albany, which
is the capital of New York is. So they the

(28:40):
Trump people also had a similar problem here. They didn't
have anybody sent it confirmed in that role. So they
had this guy whose name is John Sarcone the Third,
which is an incredible name, and he hit his one
hundred and twenty days too. I'm just gonna read you
this this little bit from from the Washington Post story

(29:01):
about this, because it's a it's sort of like a joke,
but it happened. So he hit his one hundred and
twenty day term. Right Justice Department officials responded by appointing
Sarcone as a quote special attorney to the Attorney General

(29:22):
as well as the first assistant to the US Attorney.
So if there isn't somebody in the US attorney's role,
the first assistant steps into that role and holds down
the fort until he's there. So they they appointed him
to be his own deputy, so that when his term expired,
the deputy would take over and it's him. He was

(29:46):
in the same position as Hobbed that the judges did
not vote to extend him and again totally unprecedented. But
this guy, he has also no experience as a prosecutor
when he was appointed whose position. His immediate previous job
was as a regional administrator for the GSA, which manages

(30:07):
government owned properties. That's not a lawyer job. Sarcone's tenure
was marked by several unusual incidents, including in June when
he said that a knife wielding undocumented immigrant from El
Salvador had tried to kill him outside of an Albany hotel. However,

(30:28):
surveillance footage later released by investigators so that the man
did not come close to him at all to Sarcone
with his weapon, and charges brought by the local prosecutor
were downgraded to from attempted murder to a misdemeanor. This month,
Sarcone told a local TV station that the district judges

(30:50):
had extended his tenure as US attorney. Within hours, then
the district's judges issued a statement saying that, in fact,
they had not done that. So he's like lying in
public to everybody. He's unqualified. He's making up fake attacks
that didn't happen. I mean, he's perfect for Trump, you know,

(31:15):
very much. Trump beasta bullshit. But like this is a joke, right,
this isn't a real thing. Again, this this is the
Trump world. So yeah, and this is this is the
lowest end of this kind of of thing. Like in
a regular world, this one instance of a US attorney

(31:37):
making up a fake attack and lying about his position
would be front page news scandal induced like surprise, I've
I'm surprised he's not this barred. Well, he might get
this bard the state bar would have to do that.
But like this does not even crack the titans. This

(32:01):
is so low on the scale of bullshit that this
this administration does. But like this is a thing that
only people like us would care about, but it is
still very funny and ridiculous. Yeah, speaking of Trump losing
in court, let's talk about our neighbor tomorrow, Bredo Garcia.
So you may remember that he got illegally deported to

(32:25):
l Salvador, sent to the concentration camp there. Then Trump
administration told everybody, hey, look, we don't have any ability
to get this guy out. He's Salvadoran. He's in a
salvador In prison. That's not our responsibility. It's a sovereign country.
And then a bunch of lawyers were like, uh, you

(32:47):
didn't have any grounds to deport him in the first place.
We're going to court. The judge ruled you got to
bring him back. It goes all the way to the
Supreme Court. The Supreme Court's like, yeah, you got to
bring him back. And then the Trump people are like, look,
we can't bring him back. And then and they all
of a sudden, out of their back pocket, they're like, well,
we're gonna charge them with human trafficking. Turns out we
can't bring it back, okay. Guy. Then in another deposition,

(33:10):
we find out that the Salvadorans are like, oh, Yeah,
the US retains control of everybody that they sent here.
We can just return them or put them wherever they want.
We're just working for them. They paid us six million
dollars and so they brought a breakout Garcia back and
they brought him to Tennessee, of all places, Tennessee and

(33:31):
charged him with human trafficking. And their evidence so far
is aha, and the defense is like, could you show
us the end? They're like, we've got it, but we're
not gonna show you. And the judges are like, you
have to have evidence. You can't just charge people with stuff.

(33:52):
And they're like, you have to have evidence. Like they
are not lawyering at all in any of this. So
the Justice Department said we will if he posts bail,
like we'll let him bail out of jail. And then

(34:13):
ICE was like, oh, if he posts bail, we're going
to deport him immediately. So then they had to show
to it. Yeah, like, but not tell Salvador because that's
the only place they're not legally allowed to deport him.
So then he had to fight to stay in jail
to not get deported. All of this is super illegal,

(34:34):
like none of this is has been ruled okay by
any judge anywhere. It's been ruled actually opposite, just this week.
So in the midst of that, like I don't know
what to call it, skirmish like around this thing, US
District Judge Paul z Innis in Maryland barred immigration authorities

(34:57):
from taking a Brego Garcia into custody upon his re
Tennessee and order the Trump administration to give him at
least three days notice if it moves to deport him
to a country other than Olsalvador, which the administration and
officials have said they could do. So basically, he can
bail out, he can come home from Tennessee back to Maryland, okay,

(35:18):
And if they go to deport him, they have to
give him three days notice so that he can make
sure that the lawyers are like ready to go. They
can't just snatch him in the middle of the night,
which is what they did in the first place. It
remained unclear Wednesday, yesterday, when tomar Brego Garcia could be
released from the US Marshall's custody in Tennessee under the

(35:41):
judge there whose name is a great name, Waverley D.
Crenshaw Junior, Wow Waverly Yes, Waverley, would you bring in
the Oh my god, Waverly, what a name. Okay, So
Waverley Crenshaw left that decision to a magistrate judge. The

(36:04):
judge he should a thirty day stay on his release
pending further order. The order from Maryland's Paul Zennis allows
tomorrow Brego Garcia's attorneys time to seek to keep the
US to keep Ice from again quickly deporting him without
like anything and making sure that he doesn't go back

(36:25):
to El Salvador, which is the country he fled fleeing
gang violence. Also, like there's no real evidence they're basing
his human trafficking on, Like they pulled him over in
twenty twenty two and they said that he's been trafficking

(36:46):
thousands and thousands of people into the country. Like this
guy is a sheet metal worker in Maryland and a
dad with a young kid. I own several young children.
I don't have time to like eat a full meal,
let alone traffic other people into this country. What the
fuck are they talking about? So all right, let me

(37:11):
just add this other like piece of information. Remember that
that like for the government to bring the case against you,
they have to present the evidence and you have a
chance to confront the evidence because of this thing called
the constitution. And so far they're evidence that he is
a human trafficker. They had presented none. They just keep
saying it, but they don't show anything. They don't they

(37:33):
don't have any like stack of papers or like sworn
affidavits or witness testimony or anything like that they have.
They just go, we know he is. And the defense
attorneys or his lawyers or the judges have been saying
things like this, Uh, let's see here. Tricia McLaughlin. I'm
loving her. She's the deputy spokesperson at DHS, so she

(38:00):
is the one that does all the talking. The fact
that this unhinged judge is trying to tell Ice that
they can't arrest an MS thirteen gang member indicted by
a grand jury for human trafficking and subject to immigration
arrest under federal law is lawless and insane, tweeted, Okay,
the judge in Tennessee had this to say. Crenshaw Waverley

(38:20):
Crenshaw Junior wrote that he'd seen no evidence that a
Breago quote had markings or tattoos showing gang affiliation, as
working relationships with non MS thirteen members ever told any
of the witnesses that he is an MS thirteen member
or has ever been affiliated with any sort of gang
activity based on the records before it the court. For

(38:44):
the court to find that Abrego Garcia is a member
of or in affiliation with MS thirteen, it would have
to make so many inferences from the government's proffered evidence
in its favor that such conclusions would border on fancy.
That's legal for the governments making this ship up, and

(39:05):
they have presented absolutely nothing to back it up. So
there you go. He said that the government failed to
show on appeal that this case is one of the
quote carefully limited exemptions where detention pending trial is justified
in titling Abrego to his liberty in the meantime, they

(39:26):
can't even prove that they need to hold it like
that's that's the lowest far of like, your honor, we
think that this guy's a flight risk. He's not a
flag he's the opposite of a flight risk. He wants
to not fly and uh, the last time he took
him so he wants to state but and and they
can't even be like, yeah, he's a danger to his community.
Oh well, would you like to show how yes, we

(39:49):
said he is that's all he is to say. Yeah,
I mean imagine from from the photoshop figures to this now.
I mean it's it's like it's again, it's exhausting.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
I know that it's it's more than just distracting from
other things, because this this has been talked about and.

Speaker 1 (40:14):
Been well known for months now.

Speaker 2 (40:16):
And to see where it is now, it's it furthers
explains the fact that this administration just it is following
some weird from that weird playbook that you know, Project
twenty twenty five, getting rid of people who have yo
with again, like you said, with no due process. You

(40:39):
just point this out, pick this person and say he's
out of here, and for what And then when the
actually when the law is coming into effect to protect
these people, you're for your You're trying to again falsify
something that never happened because you want to prove a
right again. This is Yeah, We've been seeing this word

(41:01):
for a very long time. All of this is the
THEAR and it's bad THEAR. I mean, this is one
of the weird things.

Speaker 1 (41:08):
Why Trump wanted to be part of the board of
of of the Kennedy Center because he loves the Everything's
a show for him. Yeah, Everything's a show. And the
thing is is like, this is a bad show and
the reviews have been so bad. It's like, why is
this still playing here? It's it's it's like a community
theater reproduction of Rent. Yeah with actual with with with

(41:36):
actual you know, crackheads. Yeah, except they're the ones doing
the lawyering. Yes, I'm also like a little surprised. You know,
it wouldn't be hard for the Trump people to find
actual examples of bad guys that they can catch into

(41:59):
port there. There's there's plenty of them around. They're not
It's not the majority by any means, which is with
the way they paint this picture. But like, you know,
catching a dad for driving his kid to school is
a really bad look.

Speaker 2 (42:18):
I don't know, Like I mean, it's like when I
saw that video, I was like, Okay, it wasn't a
traffic stop, it wasn't anything. It was like he was
just taking his kid to daycare and for whatever reason
you I mean, I I just don't get it. And

(42:38):
the way they did it too, it was horrific.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I don't know, I can why. Yeah, but like they
could find examples of really bad people, right, And as
a matter of fact, we know of some like, for example,
these Venezuelan guys right there there were the Trump people
were so desperate to deport some people back to Venezuela

(43:03):
that they made a deal with that country, which is
run by a dictator, like an actual Maduro is a dictator.
He's been voted out of office twice. Now he's just
imprisoned the guys or the lady who beat him and
then just like continues on, totally and completely a dictator

(43:25):
and a communist dictator, I would point out, you know,
Chavez disciple. And they were so desperate to deport these
Venezuelan guys, who were themselves, some of them not like
super criminals, they were just from Venezuela. They wanted to
deport them to some other country. And the only way

(43:48):
they could work that deal was if they were willing
to take back some Americans who were in Venezuela and
had been convicted of murder or stuff in Venezuela as
an Americans, right, And one of them they brought back
who then killed a bunch of people. So like Hm,

(44:09):
they're working backwards, they're hustling backwards. Right, That's that's that's
Test's favorite line. They're they're bringing in dangerous people so
that they can be allowed to deport totally harmless people.
And Kimar Brego Garcia. I don't know the guy. I

(44:30):
don't know what his background is, but the evidence that
he is some sort of criminal mastermind or even frontline
foot soldier thug has not been shown to me or
anybody I would know. So I just I these guys

(44:52):
are fucking more. Literally, speaking of Witch, let's talk about
the GEO. Now. As we mentioned, this is the Ability
Office and I know a lot about this agency. They
are a congressional agency. They belong to Congress. They are
they their nickname is is the Watchdogs. Their mascot is

(45:13):
like a little angry looking bulldog, and their job is
to audit stuff for Congress. Basically, you only ever hear
about the GEO when they catch people doing stuff or
or like waste fraud and abuse or like you know,
a program not working. Many years ago, they kind of

(45:35):
cracked the news for being able to bring in a
bunch of guns, drugs, and worse through TSA to prove
that TSA wasn't doing a very good job. Like that
that's that's what they do. They also mostly crunch a
lot of numbers and check to see if the stuff

(45:57):
Congress wants to do is a good idea or a idea,
or if it's working the way that Congress meant it
to work. So in that case, here's what they did.
There is a law called the Impoundment Law that was
put in after Watergate that basically says that if Congress
appropriates money for a specific thing, like in this case,

(46:20):
funding head Start, the administration has to do the thing
that Congress appropriated the money for once the law is signed.
They can't get a budget line and then use it
for like Margarita machines. And they can't get the budget
line and then just not spend the money as well,

(46:40):
like they have to do it. They can't get not
do it right. Well. The Trump people seem to think
that that does not apply to them, So the GOO
said Wednesday that the Trump administration had violated the Empowerment
Act by withholding congressionally appropriated funds for head Start, which
is the federally funded preschool program for children from low
income families. The GOO found then between January twentieth and

(47:05):
April fifteenth, the Department of Health and Human Services, which
distributes the money for had started distributed about sixty five
percent of what it had distributed during the same period
last year, a drop of more than eight hundred and
twenty five million dollars. After that, GOO said, reimbursements returned
to their expected rates. So they like turned off the

(47:28):
money and then they turned it back on, which means
that they had control of it. They willfully did this,
and so yeah, here's the actual quote from GOO. It says,
once enacted in appropriation as a law like any other,
and the President must implement it by ensuring that appropriated
funds are obligated and expended prudently during their period of availability,

(47:52):
unless and until Congress enacts another law providing otherwise. That's it.
That's what it says, which gets as to this other
thing that I want to talk about, which is the recision. Okay, So,
like we said, when Congress appropriates money, the administration has

(48:13):
to spend that money, and if the administration doesn't want
to spend that money, they basically have to ask Congress
to retract it, to rescind the money, to take it back,
and to unappropriate it. And there's process for that it's
called a recision. The Congress has to vote on it,
just like they do any other law, but because it's

(48:34):
a budgetary thing, they can do it without sixty votes
in the Senate, And in this case, during the billionaire
welfare tax spending law, they wrote into that the rule
that would allow them to then rescind money for USAID

(48:57):
and Corporation for Public Broadcasting and a few other things
that all of which do good stuff for people, which
is why Trump hates. So then they voted on the recision.
It passed the Senate by the thinnest thread of a
couch stitch. And in particular because Mike Rownds, who is

(49:21):
the senator from one of the Dakotas we don't care.

Speaker 3 (49:23):
If their square states, was very worried that the Corporation
for Public Broadcasting funding being cut off would leave the
tribal radio stations in his state without their funding to
like operate.

Speaker 1 (49:38):
And the Trump people are like, no, no, we won't
do that. We'll find some other money somewhere else and
we'll we'll keep them running, and Rounds was like, oh, okay, well,
I totally believe you this time. I'm certainly not getting
jerked around like the last time. Yeah, so they're gonna
jerk him around. They're gonna, they're gonna. This is not
gonna happen. But so he voted yes for it to

(49:58):
so they were sind to the money. It passed House
by two votes. It's very tight and weird thing though.
Trump hasn't signed it yet and I'm not totally sure
what's going on with that. If Congress passes a law

(50:20):
and it goes unsigned for ten days, it's what's called
a pocket veto. You can basically you don't have to
veto the law. You can just not sign it and
it gets vetoed after ten days. So why would you
do that? Okay, it is kind of weird that his

(50:45):
his Congress, that's right, that's the right way to call it.

Speaker 2 (50:54):
Past this and him not signing it your a. He's
other things going on. It's probably got to fix his
off game or pretty much he's.

Speaker 1 (51:08):
Really not fully focus on it. I think there's something.
What's the other Okay, So let's say he doesn't sign
this and against pocket veto, so then the money has
still been appropriated, doesn't get drawn back up into the
general fund. It's still been appropriated for being spent supposed

(51:33):
to be spent on corporation for public broadcasting in foreign eight.
But the Trump people they don't spend it on that.
They repurpose it, which is another legal term for something
like I don't know, expanding Guantanamo or whatever, something else
that they need money for that they might not be

(51:55):
able to easily get Congress to appropriate money for. So
they repurpose this money for that. And if somebody has
a problem with it, which they will, they'll go to
court and they'll say, hey, this money was appropriated for
corporation for public broadcasting and stuff, and the Trump people
will be able to say, well, Congress rescinded the money,

(52:19):
so the will of Congress is not to spend it
on that stuff, and then the courts would be in
this weird place where the will of Congress was to
spend it and also to retract it. Do those balance out? Basically?
I think that by not signing it, he's got a
slush fund that he can do what the fuck else

(52:40):
he wants with it. If he rescinds it, it goes
back into the general fund and Congress can use it
to pay for other things or to just you know,
pay off debt or whatever, or by doing it this way,
he gets to control the money. That's what I think
is happening. Everybody else around me thinks I'm a crazy
for saying this, but all the other things that I

(53:02):
said on this show and other places where I say
things and people are like, oh, that's crazy, and then
it turns out that it happens. My track record's pretty good.
I'm not one hundred percent, not that in a thousand here,
but I'm that north of three hundred, I'll tell you that.
So I don't know. I think that's a possibility. Yeah,

(53:25):
I wouldn't go past it, because.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
I mean, he will find some shady way to do
things that won't properly benefit everyone, is just benefits himself
and again tries to make him look like the good
guy in a sense, but really it doesn't.

Speaker 1 (53:44):
Well, remember that he did this previously. He reappropriately repurposed
money that was allocated and appropriated for military construction for
building schools on military basis in particular, and use that
for his wall that blew down. So there there's precedent
for this. He's done this before, and I think that

(54:05):
he's doing it again and he's coming up. I mean,
we're talking about like nine billion dollars. That's a lot
of money, even in this kind of situation, and it
can buy you a lot of alligator alcatraz or whatever.
It's not the craziest thing I've thought of on the show.

(54:26):
I know, you're not crazy. You're not crazy. You're not dringed,
deafening silence. Brian. Okay, So there you go. That's like
the first round of various things for Trump has been
losing in court. You want to take a break, Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (54:45):
Want to take a break. I want to take a
special break. No, no, no, no, no. This is because
even though we earlier mentioned about the Holtster, I want
to mention the fact we lost two other people because again, death,
you know that comes in threes.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
Sure.

Speaker 2 (55:02):
No, the day prior we lost Ozzy Osbourne a couple
I mean, weeks after his final concert, as you know,
with Black Sabbath, which.

Speaker 1 (55:13):
Was mind you it was, it was. I wouldn't say
it was coming, but then again it was. It was
still a bit surprising. He knew it was coming. That's
why he did that show that way. Yeah, and it
was it was.

Speaker 2 (55:25):
And mind I've seen clips of the show and it
was a really, really a good show.

Speaker 1 (55:29):
Yeah. Oh I saw I saw it like there was
a there's a good like twenty five minute long you know,
him doing a couple of songs and and really just
you can tell he's soaking it in. Yeah. So it was,
and he had Parkinson's, I mean it had been fighting
it off for like, yeah, for a good time, yeah,
twenty years.

Speaker 2 (55:47):
Yeah, so but all know, you know, he gave he
gave his all on that stage and it was well deserved.
But the other person, which was a big surprise, and
this hurt me and still hurting me to this day.
It is Malcolm Jamal Warner. I felt that, you know,
once I saw the headline and how he died and

(56:09):
uh and everything, and I was like, oh my god,
and you and I and pretty much a good portion
of the Gen xers.

Speaker 1 (56:19):
He you know, knew him as just the Oh but
I mean but I've grown, I've watched his career grow.
Sure it wasn't just the Yeah, it wasn't just Malcolm
and Eddie. He's most recently he was on the TV
show Alert on Fox, and the thing that a lot
of people are kind of not knowing. He's a well

(56:41):
known and award winning musician, and yeah he's Grammy nominated
as well.

Speaker 2 (56:47):
So I have here is a clip for one of
his performances a few months ago, and it's I felt
like it was appropriate time.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
So nothing.

Speaker 2 (56:57):
If if Tess was he will be freaking out of
like you know, if I were putting up something crazy.
But now this one, this is an honor to to
uncle Jamon Warner and I.

Speaker 1 (57:09):
And like I said, he he's like, you know, a
true friend. I'm gonna mess. So well, there you go,
without further ado, We're gonna take a break. You're listening
to jip chat on Beltway Radio and beyond.

Speaker 4 (57:28):
M brown skin, you're gonna go.

Speaker 1 (57:36):
He loove you round. You want to be here.

Speaker 5 (57:44):
To brown, I will use my.

Speaker 1 (57:57):
All.

Speaker 6 (58:20):
I am theming.

Speaker 1 (58:26):
For another taste of your brown skin. You see.

Speaker 6 (58:37):
I'm scheming for a chance to get up in between
again so I can truly be Malcolm in the middle.
Addiction may be bad, but this affliction I have for

(58:58):
you may prove to be hard folk, because I got
an armful of scars from pension.

Speaker 1 (59:03):
Too hard just to make sure I'm awake. And this
state of mind, in this state of mind is too
much to take.

Speaker 6 (59:15):
I'm so busy thinking of you when there's one million,
four hundred thousand, three hundred and twenty.

Speaker 1 (59:21):
Other things I needed to do, Like.

Speaker 6 (59:30):
Damn, see, I got all these people in the caabaretles
of mean.

Speaker 1 (59:36):
And I can't concentrate.

Speaker 6 (59:39):
Being in love is supposed to be so great, But
how come I can't seem.

Speaker 1 (59:42):
To do anything else with my day?

Speaker 6 (59:44):
I mean, I should be excited and energetic and have
that look that a woman has making breakfast in the
morning when a man's shirt on but she can't really cook.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
I should be motivated to take on the.

Speaker 5 (59:58):
World, But instead I'm to lay in the bed with
your image of your naked body blowing through my head.
Let my toes curled and spirit ride and.

Speaker 1 (01:00:10):
Can you hear it cries of your name.

Speaker 6 (01:00:16):
And your character's name when we role play, And damn,
I'm in bed by myself and it's like your three
hundred thousand miles away. And as much as the player
in me wants to stray, I can't because frames of
your fine ass dance in front of my face, sending
me back to my new favorite place under the covers,

(01:00:36):
where lovers like us bust through walls of insecurity and
lust is simply the foreplay that leads with the purity
of love without fear. See I exhale deeply when you
were here in my arms.

Speaker 5 (01:00:51):
I in hell kind of d two when I'm laying
in mind myself trying to fill my.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Lungs with memories of the essence of you.

Speaker 6 (01:00:57):
The presence of you presents yea another dilemma as I
into your.

Speaker 1 (01:01:04):
Personal space.

Speaker 5 (01:01:08):
Which part do I kissed first, the curve of your
calf or the smaller.

Speaker 1 (01:01:15):
Your face.

Speaker 6 (01:01:18):
Reflecting the love in my eyes suggesting that the rim
of your nose is love to error, the fur of
my brow, which loves how that fold on your shin
weaks at the diamond, and my tongue which longs to
lick your lips as they pucker towards my chuckle as
we laugh out this love for sisting, this stick look
of bath, over.

Speaker 7 (01:01:35):
And over and over and over, can Over, can Over, Canova, Canova, Canova,
can Lover Canva Canova had Hallo and lo and.

Speaker 1 (01:01:56):
And Ova and lover and over again and over again
and over again. All right, Welcome back to Chip Chad

(01:02:23):
here on Belwegh Radio and beyond. I'm Rose Chip with
me tonight is Brian. That was a very cool performance
by the recently departed, dearly departed Malcolm Jamal Warner. You know.
He he died like on a vacation with his family,

(01:02:45):
like swimming. I was just at the beach, like swimming
with my family and the waters.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
They said that the waters wasn't really uh swimmer friendly.
It's more you know, it was mainly more oriented for surfers,
right and.

Speaker 1 (01:03:10):
Good friend but yeah, risky business man.

Speaker 8 (01:03:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:03:16):
Actually the thing was it was him, his daughter and
a friend that were in that situation.

Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
So and I think the friend is still in critical
and the daughter was of course, but unfortunately, you know,
we lost alcome Jamal Warner. Yeah. Rough, Yeah, Okay, well,
let's move on to some other rough business. Now we've

(01:03:45):
come to the part of the show. It's called the rundowns,
is where I tell you about some stuff that's gone
on in the news. If we're professionals, it would sound
a little something.

Speaker 9 (01:03:54):
Like this from Beltwait Radio and Beyond in Washington, d C.
I'm imman nominated TV news man and just bonafide sexual
beast Jay Scott Smith. And this is the part of
the show where I tell some stuff about the world.
Maybe not me, but somebody else is gonna tell some
stuff about what's happening in the news.

Speaker 1 (01:04:11):
So what's going on in the news, fellas? Thanks Jay.
All right, first thing we're gonna talk about is Congress.
We love to talk about Congress. Everybody loves Congress, right,
They're the most popular branch of government. So Congress has
two halves, two houses. Right, there's the Senate and then
there's the House. The House is controlled by the Speaker

(01:04:32):
of the House. In this case, he is a guy
named Mega Mike Johnson. He looks like that. It looks
like you have Millhouse came to life. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:04:46):
He is.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Mild mannered in the way that he talks, and he
seems like kind of a pushover and all that. But
it turns out he's been a fairly effective speaker at
doing awful stuff, and he's good at kind of making
everybody think that he doesn't really mean anything by what
he says, and so he's just you know, he's able

(01:05:08):
to corral this like rowdy bunch of Republicans right up
until now. So, okay, the Epstein stuff is just everywhere.
There's no way to get around talking not everywhere. It's
not on Fox News, it's not on Foxing, So that's right.
It's very specifically not on Foxings, but it is everywhere else,
and we really can't get around this. It's okay. The

(01:05:35):
thing that seems obvious to me and everybody else I
know is that when the MAGA people started or began
focusing on Epstein and child predators, they somehow willfully ignored

(01:05:55):
the long association between Trump and Epstein. These guys were
friends for twenty years. Epstein was at two of Trump's weddings,
and you know, there's all of the footage of the
two of them together. There's just there's so much connection there.
But somehow, in the MAGA world, Epstein is a bad

(01:06:20):
guy and Trump either barely knows him or is only
sort of around him and would never have anything to
do with him. I don't know how they ever squared this,
or why they ever thought that they could go after
all the other people who they think are connected to
Epstein and not include Trump, and that because they're protecting them.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
I mean, yeah, they've.

Speaker 1 (01:06:46):
Been holding that cognitive dissonance for this entire time, but
it has now come to like a smashing head they
have no way to get away from this. And the
reason is because Trump promised to release the Epstein list.
He said there was a list of clients, and now

(01:07:08):
he says there isn't a list. And these these rabid
maniacs are like focused on this thing, and then they
don't get it right. They're like, why would Trump tell
me that that he's going to do this and then
not do it? Well, because he's a liar and a

(01:07:29):
con man and you are a bunch of fucking rubes
who got taken, That's why. And they're like, well, it
can't be that right. They can't admit that they've been played.
So they are doubling down, tripling down, insert number here,
down on. We want to see the files. We know
the files exist, and they will not let this go.

(01:07:52):
And the Democrats are helping, right, Democrats are throwing gas
on that fire and be like, hey, you know, we
love to vote on some real laws, but first we
need to get these f files out of here. So
over in Congress, the Democrats have been like strategically in
the Rules Committee, in every other committee that they can't
they're they're using the rules of the committee to force

(01:08:14):
votes on should we release the Epstein files or not,
and trying to get Republicans on record voting against releasing them,
which will get them absolutely eaten the live back in
their districts. They can't get out from this. So what happened?

(01:08:35):
MCGA Mike shut down. Congress doesn't want to deal with this,
so he sent everybody home. They're for recess next week anyway,
but he was just like, nah, I forget it, I'm reification. Yeah,
he's got He's got several like big problems going on
in the House. One is this discharge petition that is

(01:08:57):
coming out from Thomas Massey from Kentucky, who Trump is
already pissed off at because he was a no vote
on the billionaire welfare and he's kind of he's like
a real deficit hawk kind of guy, and he's sort
of having the fun time being the foil to the
Trump administration as a Republican. Trump said he wanted to

(01:09:18):
find anybody who'd be willing to primary him. So far
they haven't. He's from Kentucky. Kentucky has a bit of
a streak of this, so mass He's got this this
discharge petition, and a discharge petition basically is if you
can get a majority of the House members to vote
to force something to a vote. It doesn't have to

(01:09:39):
go through the Rules Committee, and the Speaker doesn't have
control over it. And so the discharge petition can force
a vote on releasing all of the rest of the files.
And he's got six or seven Republicans already on board,
and it's assumed or maybe directly stated at this point

(01:10:00):
that all of the Democrats will be involved in that,
so there's enough to force this vote. Johnson doesn't want
to deal with that, so he sends everybody home. That's it.
Don't do that. But he can't send home like all
of the stuff in the committees. So that's still happening.
So House Oversight Subcommittee voted today yesterday to subpoena the files,

(01:10:28):
and then the head of House Oversight, the main committee Comer,
issued subpoenas for Glene Maxwell and to get her to
testify in front of the committee. I don't know if
that's actually going to happen. That might be a little
bit stickier. She's got lawyers who could say we don't

(01:10:48):
want to let her do that, and they might be
able to find a pretty good reason why. But all
of This is like terribly inconvenient, to say the least
for Trump and it's terribly inconvenient for House leadership because
if they want to do any like, they've got a
budget they have to pass in the fall when they

(01:11:10):
come back from their recess. They've got something like thirty
days to get a budget passed or there's going to
be a government shutdown. And you could easily see a
government shutdown happening because these guys can't like they can't
order lunch, you know, they just kick get out of
their own way with this stuff. And they they until

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his Epstein stuff gets put to bed, careful, they can't.
They can't do anything else. The MAGA base is not
letting go. We've got MTG. Bobert some of the other
really nutcase what died in the wold Trump supporters who

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are like, we want to see the files. So there's
this weird statement that Johnson gives. He says, we want
on any individual who has been involved in any way
in the Epstein evils to be brought to justice as
quickly as possible, and the law should be brought down
upon their head. It's a weird way to speak when
the Epsteine records are turned over to the public, we

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must do as quickly, which we must do as quickly
as possible. We have to be very judicious and careful
about protecting the innocent. Well, the innocent are the victims,
so they can already have their names redacted, which is
in the discharge petition law that they want. The other people,
they're not innocent, so we don't need to protect them.
You could just release the information and like, you know,

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Bondi told everybody she had the list on her desk,
and then she says there's no list. Dan Bongino made
an entire career out of saying that there's this massive
file with all this information. Now he's the number two
at the FBI, and he's like, where's the list, And
they go, we don't have a list. What are you
talking about, Dan? And he's like, you fucking know you've

(01:12:59):
got this stuff. Then we find out today that there's
like thirty thousand gigs worth of of data in this
one file that they're going after. Dick Durbin, senator from Illinois,
told everybody that he found out that the Trump administration
assigned a thousand FBI agents working around the clock to

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go through all of this data and find any instance
of Trump's name, and then it turns out it's reported
in Wall Street Journal. It was also reported in New
York Times that in May of this year, Pam Bondy,

(01:13:42):
who's the Attorney General, told Donald Trump that his name
is in the files. And it was right around that
time that all of a sudden nobody wanted He wanted
nobody to talk about this stuff. Obviously he knows what
he did, right, we don't know exactly what he did.
But we've got a long track record of creepy, weird

(01:14:05):
shit that Donald Trump has said about young women. We
have this letter from the Wall that the Wall Street
Journal got from him to Epstein. It's there's all of
this evidence of them being together. Apparently he's been on
Epstein's plane seven times. You know for what? Oh, we

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know what? Yeah, you know what. Right, the plane only
goes from the US to the island and back, and
you're not routing through Epstein Island on your way to
like some other reasonable destination. So what are you doing
on this plane? I don't know what do you What's

(01:14:50):
gonna happen here? Brian? I one hell and I some
vacation which they're all going to try to go to
silly town halls and a lot of the you know,
a lot of their citizens will say, you know again,

(01:15:14):
they'll there're whatever list of things they want to yell
at yell.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
At them about, and it will, Yeah, the Epstein file
thing will be top five at least.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
What they do when they come back, it depends on
Mike and and and the rest of the geoples, because
really it's it's like, if they really want to engage this,
and if they if they you know, as much as
they want to do this back and forth bit so
they can stay in their seats.

Speaker 2 (01:15:47):
But really, let's be honest with you. But for Mike
Johnson to do it now, to stop this now, I
really think it's like, look, dude, either you just nailed nail,
the final nail in your coffin.

Speaker 1 (01:16:00):
And if once the house gets.

Speaker 2 (01:16:02):
Turned in November, and hopefully it will, no, let me
not say hopefully it will, it will turn, you're screwed
because if he proves that the fact, it's like you're
protecting a dude that pretty much by public opinion knows
for well he was a part of this ship. And
we've we've seen videos We've seen pictures of them together

(01:16:25):
and things of that nature. And he can sit there
and say all he wants that is like I don't
know him, I only met him a few times, or
or I whatever whatever whatever, you were involved in some
form of fashion and you're a connected with this. This
guy did not die in jail for nothing, you know,
for a file that doesn't exist.

Speaker 1 (01:16:45):
It is like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:45):
There's there's some backwater bullshit that's been going on for years,
and I think it's a bigger There's something bigger. That's
why we haven't seen the tax returns. I mean, you
ask him for the tax return since his first administration.

Speaker 1 (01:16:56):
Right. So the thing here is.

Speaker 2 (01:16:59):
Is the fact that look, this is it's sad to say,
but it's the truth. We have Wilson Fisk. For those
who do not know, he is the main villain of Daredevil.
If anyone has seen this recent news series on Disney Plus, that's.

Speaker 1 (01:17:17):
What he is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:18):
Yeah, and it's more than he's beyond Lex Luthor. Lex
Luthor he was able to manipulate his way to be
a president, and but Wilson Fisk, he fullied his way
to be a man.

Speaker 1 (01:17:32):
And that's what this is.

Speaker 2 (01:17:34):
And and taking over that city and based off of
their their frustration on certain things. But knowing for well,
like this guy is a criminal. He's done a lot
of things, and it's and it's been well known, well documented,
and for Trump to sit there, to be honest with you,
the way I'm surprised is for him to have the

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Supreme Court and the Department of Justice in his back
pocket and sitting there saying the fact it's like, oh,
hide these away, And it's like, wait a minute, aren't you,
you know, hindering justice here?

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Isn't that they don't actually care about that that That's
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
So, but since you do not care about that ship
so but I feel this is like again you you
corrupted everything, especially the due process of how to handle
this situation where you know full well it was like, look,
this guy's involved in something that we need to know.

Speaker 1 (01:18:33):
What's all about? Why in our office? Why in that
White House? I have a theory about why the mag
of people won't let go of this? You know, they'll
like they let go of everything else, right. They they
said that they they wanted to go after the violent criminals,
and then it turns out he's going after the farm
workers and they're like, oh, well, you know, it's it's fine,

(01:18:55):
uh and and everything else that he says that contradicts
the other things that he says. They are somehow able
to like make space for that, but this they can't.
And I think here's why a lot of them have
their identity tied to this specific thing that they are.

(01:19:17):
The reason that they are maga or what allows them
to be maga to say awful, racist, hateful stuff, to
behave in ways that they know is reprehensible is they say, well,
I'm doing this because I'm trying to stop the abuse

(01:19:40):
of children, and that if what I'm doing, they wrap
themselves in that I'm trying to protect the children. That
is a get out of jail free card. So like
if you go, hey, the thing you did and said
is racist, they go, hey, look, I'm trying to like
catch the pedophiles. Are you trying to help the pedophile?

(01:20:02):
Like it gives them this defensible position from which they
can stand and fight and from which they can commit
awful other atrocities as long as it's in commission of
protecting children, which again that's that's that's what they they
they're they're protective blanket is has always been here. We're

(01:20:25):
here to protect the children. We get the children and
all that stuff. But really it's it's like, but.

Speaker 2 (01:20:32):
Why at the time, But again again, would you defend
you're a black child from.

Speaker 1 (01:20:37):
This, Well no, of course they wouldn't.

Speaker 2 (01:20:39):
But defend defend the Mexican child, no, so. But again
when it comes to again the the mind you even
though it's pedophile. But then again these were again some
of these young women were also of age. We can't
forget that was probably possibly part of the list. Again,

(01:21:02):
these are women and who have come out and stated
the fact that hey, I was raped by this dude.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Yeah, and about it, and they've gone into court about it.
But their identity is tied in being anti pedophile, right so,
and they've tied that identity to Trump as their champion.
If it turns out that Trump is himself a pedophile,
they are in this impossible situation. They have to either

(01:21:30):
say they were wrong to support Trump, and no American
is good at saying they were wrong. People are just
not good at admitting their mistakes, or they have to
admit that they never really cared about that stuff at
all and they just wanted to perpetrate all the other
hateful shit that they've been doing. And that is not

(01:21:50):
a that is a that is a scary place for
these people to be in. The They are in a
literal identity crisis because their identity.

Speaker 2 (01:21:59):
Is well, I don't listen this way if their identity
is based off of a person which is Trump. Yes,
mind you, these people are blinded by the fact of
how this guy is there, even if even if I

(01:22:23):
really think even with this one thing, this one thing
could yeah, it could change the whole spectrum of everything
if it was if for them, if it was true,
you know. But the thing is, it's like, okay, oh,
everything this man has done throughout his life, especially as
adult life, let's put it that way, you disregard that

(01:22:46):
except for this bit.

Speaker 1 (01:22:48):
Yes, yes, And that's the thing that I think. It's like,
let's say the evidence comes out, and I think it's
only a matter of time. Right during the recess, I
think we might see a leak, uh, to be honest,
because the Wall Street Journal is getting these things that
are dripping out, and like, where are they getting them from?
There's got to be somebody who's giving them some of
this information, which I want to circle back to that

(01:23:10):
in a second. But the this, if it comes out
dead to write, Trump's on the list. Here's the checks,
canceled checks where he paid for access to the thirteen
year olds or whatever. Will they excuse it? Will they

(01:23:30):
come up with some bullshit reason why this is okay?
The way they have excused everything else. When he says
grabbing by the pussy, it's just locker room talk. It's fine.
When he says that that he would go into the
dressing room of the teen USA, Oh, that's fine. That's
the normal thing for a grown man to do. When

(01:23:52):
they said, you know, when he said all of these
other things, he'd be dating his daughter if he's you know,
like all this other up, they excuse it. It's fine.
Oh he says awful things, Trump, that bitch whatever. Okay,
you would you if your husband spoke like that. He
would never speak like that. Well okay, but it's but
it's okay if Trump does it right, Yeah, that's fine.

(01:24:13):
So like all of that stuff, they can excuse. Will
they let this one go too? So far? They have not?
Well I would they they haven't. I would I would have.

Speaker 2 (01:24:28):
I would feel it's like they would like to know
they want some reassurance, but I really think and I.

Speaker 1 (01:24:34):
Really, are they gonna Are they gonna let them off
the hook.

Speaker 2 (01:24:38):
Probably if they're that loyal, if that crazy, crazyly loyal
to him, I think a good portion of him.

Speaker 1 (01:24:46):
Yes, Okay, So my question is why have they not
already done so?

Speaker 2 (01:24:51):
Because they are not Again, like I said, they want
to know, they want to be aware, they want they
want some some actual facts, like like again, they're like
a judge, you know, trying to you know, tell the
you know, the Trump lawyers this, I hey, cav some
facts here what you're presenting to me? And we know
full well there's actual information out there, and they just

(01:25:12):
want to see they.

Speaker 1 (01:25:13):
See this properly. Do you think they're just looking for
the information so that they can then concoct an excuse
why it's okay? Probably I'm not. I'm not.

Speaker 2 (01:25:26):
I am not allowing any of these maga fools any
any quarter out of this, because you you've been die
hard for him since he came down an escalator and
I'm just like, look, no, even if you believe them

(01:25:46):
or not, or whatever the whatever the file says and
stuff like that, I just fully believe it's like, I
think you are going to fully you know, except whatever
denial he'll give you. So so that way, because again
you can get what you want out of it, even
though he feels like, oh not the children. And this

(01:26:07):
is like, look again, it's been known it, mind you.

Speaker 1 (01:26:10):
Has been rumors. Let's put it that way. It's been
a lot of rumors for years.

Speaker 2 (01:26:15):
But now since there's actually on paper, there's there's a
file on it, and a guy has died from it
because he was the one of the organizers of it.
And this is like and he was willing to tell
you know, if he didn't die. Yeah, this this is
gonna be I mean, it's gonna be huge, and it's
it's it's more than just you know, a quote unquote

(01:26:35):
white house scandal whatever. This is something where it's like, look,
we've allowed a freaking criminal into that damn building, and
you don't want to omit the fact of all the
crimes that he's been.

Speaker 1 (01:26:47):
A part of, and especially the one that well, let's
say it breaks the fog and they go, all right,
that's it, we're a ditching it. Will they then allow
for the truth to seep in about all the other stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:27:00):
I don't know, because again it depends on because you
put him in there until twenty eight and for whatever reason,
it's like unless you enforce your representatives to get him out,

(01:27:21):
then it's it's it's.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
It's totally new. It's pointless.

Speaker 2 (01:27:25):
Yeah, I mean, even though even though it's right now,
it's mind you this is one of the bigger things
to try to finally get him out of here. But
then again, at the same time, it's like will it
get him out and will it and will it again
lift the fog for all these you know, mag of
people that's been brainwised for I.

Speaker 1 (01:27:42):
Don't think they can. I don't think they can come
back from it. I think, honestly, they're they're stuck there.
I never thought they would come back from I don't
it would. I don't think they will either. I'm just
I'm just sort of like proposing the idea just to
get it out there to talk about it. But I no,
I don't think they're coming back. I think these people
are are are on this thing. First of all, I

(01:28:04):
don't think when they say that they care about children,
I don't believe them because there's so many other ways
that they don't seem to care. About children by like
canceling food stamps or whatever, but or even take away
gets start or try it right, take you away heads start.
Like I don't think I don't think that they actually
care about it. I think that there's a small segment

(01:28:24):
or maybe not small, but there is some segment of
the people who protest against whatever it is Epstein did
and what Trump likely did because they're secretly okay with
it or they want to do it themselves. And you know,
it's the thing where like, why are you so concerned
about what gay folks are doing? Because you know, you
have your own issues or whatever. There's probably some of that,

(01:28:47):
and then the other stuff is, like I said, they're
just wrapping themselves in this. They don't actually care about it.
What they want to do is be selfish, be racist,
be you know, awful to fellow human beings. And they
want an excuse to be allowed to do that. And
so by standing on their hill of anti pedophilia, they

(01:29:11):
are somehow innocuous or inoculated against any real criticism when
they do the other horrible stuff. But both of those
things are bad, and both of those things are their identities.
These people are not defined by anything else. They are
defined as mata. That is who they are. That is

(01:29:32):
how they introduce themselves, that is what they broadcast to
the world. I saw a guide today with a truck.
It was a Dodge. It had don't tread on me
plates and it said the actual license plate on there
said why EPA? And like, you know, why do we
have the EPA? And like this thought flashed in my

(01:29:56):
mind of like what if I followed this guy to
where he lived until I learned where he lived, and
then like every day while he was away at work,
I went and poured motor oil in his yard and
like started just destroying his his yard and killing it

(01:30:17):
off with like toxic substances. And eventually, you know, he
would be like something is going on. Things are contaminated,
stuff smells, there's like there's a problem here. Who would
he call? He would eventually call the county. He would
call the county or whoever the regulators are, and they

(01:30:38):
would come and they would determine. Hey, man, you've got
like motor oil contamination in your yard. Something has happened here.
Would they then? Would he then understand.

Speaker 10 (01:30:53):
Why do we have the And I don't think he would.
I don't think I think these people have no capability
to connect the dots from the thing that they say
and that they do to how it affects their lives.
That's got the opportunity for so long, and they just
can't do it.

Speaker 1 (01:31:14):
Because the I mean, I.

Speaker 2 (01:31:18):
Shared the department in the state of firing, you know,
when the people were leading their offices. I shared it
with a friend and she replied to me back saying,
it's like, did you see the comments? And I read
some of the comments and these were people who say, hey,
now you know how I feel, how we feel and
blah blah blah, and it's like, what does that mean

(01:31:41):
to me? It's like, these are people who who were
doing a job, a decent job, to help you. A
lot of these agencies are falling. We're helping you, and
you wanted this, You.

Speaker 1 (01:31:56):
Allowed this, you know, because you do not understand what
their job was. And as much as you complained about
the fact, it's like, oh, the government is is taking
away my guns and ship, and it's like and everyone
kept saying, no, we're not. We got other things to
finance on help you live a decent life in this

(01:32:16):
damn country, But no, you want to live and stupid
little chaos. Fine, they don't. Actually, that's they do. If
they didn't, then they would have voted for Kamala or Betty.
Yet they would vote they wanted they wanted chaos. They
wanted that. You know, they don't want chaos. They want
to live their good, easy life. They just also want

(01:32:39):
to attack other people for it. That is considered chaos. Okay, fine,
it's because because the way I the way I view it.

Speaker 2 (01:32:46):
There again for for them to them, let's say it's
based off what you just said. That's how they want
their peace. They want to tell their racist ship. They
want to carry their guns wherever they want to feel
like it and get away with whatever they want to
get away with. That is their their viewpoint. That is
that is the bizarre world.

Speaker 1 (01:33:06):
But they still want the roads to be paved. They
still want the libraries to function if they need to
go to get stuff. They still want the mail delivered
on time. They want the electricity to keep running. They
want all of the other things that are supported by
all that.

Speaker 2 (01:33:20):
But guess what, the first ton you have an office
is willing to take that away and you accepted that,
but they don't that in there, That's what I mean,
they can't connect these dots, right, they can't because because
doing for well is that you allowed a guy who
has no idea how government works, never did, he's never
sat in office whatsoever.

Speaker 1 (01:33:40):
He sat in his own office in his own building
with the name outside of outside of it. That is it.

Speaker 2 (01:33:47):
And as you kept claiming, they say, oh he's a
good leader based off of a stupid TV show.

Speaker 1 (01:33:53):
No, I'm I'm not dowelling that. I know how the person.

Speaker 2 (01:33:58):
Don't need to relitigate all of that's no, we don't
we know. But the point is, the tear is is
the fact that if you're trying to give any of
these maga fools any out.

Speaker 1 (01:34:11):
No, no I don't want to. I want to. I
want to put them on a barge and set them
loose in the North Atlantic. But i'm I'm I'm this
is this is why they're stuck, right, they be stuck.
Let them let them let me be stuck.

Speaker 2 (01:34:28):
Yes, let let the let their more their their conflicting moralities.
Once this, if we get these Epsteins files out there,
Once these Epsteins files are out, once they read.

Speaker 1 (01:34:38):
The you know, if they can read any of this deccations.

Speaker 2 (01:34:42):
And and to the point where it's like, Okay, tell me,
how do you feel about that?

Speaker 1 (01:34:47):
About this? Now? Do you feel again?

Speaker 2 (01:34:50):
Mind you We're currently seen on TikTok or Instagram or whatever,
you know, social media. A lot of these you know
naga fools regarded their boats and.

Speaker 1 (01:34:59):
Crying and all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:35:01):
But something like this comes out, you know what they're
gonna say, Now, are we gonna see more crying? Are
we gonna see more upset people? Are they gonna be
in the marches that that already been set set for
the last you know months. No, I doubt that because
non wealthy don't want to They do not want to
believe that they put an actual pedophile in the office.

Speaker 1 (01:35:25):
I think you're right about all of that. I'm just
sort of tossing the idea out there to see, like
what are they gonna do. We're gonna have to sit
here and watch and then and then like we're gonna
have some responsibility of like do we I'm not holding
I am no, No, I'm not holding anybody's hand, and
I'm not willing to let them back in. And that's

(01:35:45):
the thing is like I don't I don't think these
people have the right to be a part of society anymore,
because they have chosen to kill society and kill the
American idea that knits us all together and makes us
the country the success that we are. They chose to

(01:36:08):
take a hatchet today, So like they they do need
to suffer for their choices. Ultimately, in the long run,
you know, will we have to come up with a
way to reconcile as a country. Yeah? Probably, But I
don't know what that looks like. And I'm not going
to be the leader of that. I don't want to, honestly,
I don't want to touch it. You know, Scarlett Letter,

(01:36:32):
of these guys you voted for him, you gotta wear
like a hat. You gotta wear the Maga hat the
rest of your life. And we ought to know who
you are, and we can like not hire you or
whatever you you can like, I kind of.

Speaker 2 (01:36:46):
Like, yeah, I like what the Germans did. They they
literally banned.

Speaker 1 (01:36:50):
The Nazi Yeah yeah, and they have like this, you know,
extraordinary sets of rules of where like free speech doesn't
apply if you're doing these certain things. And they and
you know, but yet over there AfD, which is under
surveillance for being Nazis, they've got twenty percent of the parliament,

(01:37:14):
so you know, I don't know speaking of Nazis. Let's
move on to Pickled pete Head said, so remember signal
Gate where he tweeted out war plans to everybody or
texted to everybody. And one of the things that they said,
it was like their defense of like, look, we didn't

(01:37:35):
say anything. It was classified in that chat, so like,
you know, what's the big deal, Like, okay, well, the
big deal is you're using unsecured lines and talking to
rando journalists about war plans, and god knows how many
other people you've signal chatted to about various other things.
But when we are like it seems a lot like

(01:37:56):
those are classified war plans, turns out they were. Depending
On's Independent watchdog has received evidence the messages that Defense
Secretary Pickled Pete Heggsat's signal account UH chatted about the
bombing campaign and Yemen were derived from classified emails labeled

(01:38:17):
secret no foreign, which is a level of classification. So
they are classified secret and no foreign means no foreign
people like no nobody, non no US, no non US
person can see this. That's their like way of like
it's for citizens eyes only. The revelation appears to contradict

(01:38:41):
long standing claims by the Trump administration that no classified
information was divulged in unclassified group chats, no ship and
in other news tonight water is wet moretal it all.
It was all secret. Everybody knows that nobody was knew
this was gonna happened. And then he then he just

(01:39:02):
like to everybody, He's like, yeah, that's cool. We're just
bomb and Evan, you know, did you get any text
from Pete Hexent this week? Everything's I would I would
have contacted Wall Street Journal if he did, right, Yeah,
I don't know. For some reason, my phone went off

(01:39:22):
at ten in the morning and said bring me to
gener Tonics and I was like, Pete, you got my
number again, buddy, you're off by one, and uh you know,
he was like, oh my bad, make it three. Uh yeah,
So there you go. That's like just some rundown. That
was a short version of we got the epscene stuff.
At least we managed to cover that to some extent.

(01:39:44):
Should we take a break, Brian, Uh yeah, I think
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Speaker 4 (01:40:30):
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having to eat my neighbors. You think I like the
size of us, I'm gonna hollering us, my dame, stop
his ass up.

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barbecue your ass flat. I will look your ass up
so fast. I'm telling them people, I killed the girl.
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Speaker 4 (01:41:10):
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and skin them and chop them up. You know what
I'm really I will be your leftist ass.

Speaker 1 (01:41:20):
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Speaker 11 (01:41:26):
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Speaker 11 (01:41:32):
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your ass.

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That's why I want the gloveless to know I will
eat your ass first. I swear to God, it's the
last thing I do. I'm gonna get my hands around
your throat.

Speaker 1 (01:42:00):
Wow Yep, welcome back to here on that Way Radio
and beyond. I'm chip with me, is Brian. We've just
been threatened by Alex Jones. Yes, but we wouldn't do.
We gotta respect Tesz because every time you know, I
play any of these Alex Jones things, Tess always mentioned
about sandy Hook Promise, and I'm going to continue that

(01:42:22):
santy Hood Promise is a organization that is helping fun
all the victims who lost their child during the santy
Hook massacre, and that Alex Jones sally does not want
to admit that it actually happened. So if you would
like to donate this well deserved calls, go to as

(01:42:46):
the email dress show Sandy Hooks promise dot org they
can bride you information. But also the main thing is
to denote, to donate, and to let the truth be
known that hey, this was a sad day and a
very tracked day. And again Alec Jones, you're just arog idiot. Yeah.

(01:43:07):
Also he decided to attack Ozzie who died and he
he was like, yeah, you had to come in or no.
He blamed vaccines. Yeah, blame the vaccine. He was like, oh, yeah,
the vaccine, since he got vaccinated, that's why he died.
It's like, no, you idiodiot Parkinson's and he was in
his mid seventies, Like why how is Alex Jones still

(01:43:32):
I look at that guy? Anyway? AnyWho, So now we're
going to move on to what would be the test talk,
but since he's not here, we're gonna have to do
the thing. So Brian, it's the best talk. Sound look
at these dead ass birds. So our favorite DC council

(01:43:55):
member is back. Yeah, Treyon Okay, So here's what happened.
Tryon White. He was a member of the DC Council.
He was caught on video accepting a envelope full of
cash and a bunch of other things. And he is

(01:44:16):
currently awaiting his trial for federal charges for bribery, and
so the DC Council voted to expel him, which caused
there to be a vacancy in his spot for Ward eight,
and then they had a special election to fill it.
And basically Tryon didn't know campaigning like at all. He didn't.

(01:44:39):
He didn't go out there, He didn't do any appearances.
I didn't hear a single interview with him. I mean
he just was like, but yeah, there were a few
signs out there, but like, I didn't see him. Right.
He continued to do the thing that got him elected
in the first place, and that what makes him so

(01:45:01):
popular in that area, which is go be a member
of the community. And so like things would happen, good
or bad, he would show up. If something was you know,
there was a cultural event going down, try On to
be there, you know, saying, hi, hanging out, being cool.
And then like if something that happened, somebody got shot

(01:45:23):
or whatever, Tryon would be there saying that, you know,
we'll help you, you know, we'll do what we can,
trying to raise awareness for the families. Whatever he could.
But he did none of the traditional campaign right and
he won. Yeah, like easily he won. He had this
one weird ad that they put out on election day.

(01:45:46):
And I'm hoping that Brian can show this video and
see I saw a little bit of it. Yes, if
you can put this up and be like, what is
going on? All right, let's play it.

Speaker 12 (01:46:03):
Thirty am to seven pm Friday, July eleventh through Tuesday
July fifteenth. They hope we stay home, They hope we
stay silent, But the truth is no one is coming
to save us but us. We have the power to
shape the now, and it's time we use it. You
can register and vote on the same day.

Speaker 1 (01:46:21):
No excuses.

Speaker 12 (01:46:22):
Out of over forty thousand ballots sent to households, only
three thousand, fine hundred and eleven have been returned. That
means we are leaving too much on the table. Unfinished
business is our call to action, and we must answer.
Don't let this moment pass get to the point.

Speaker 2 (01:46:39):
Okay, so creepy, it's crey it is. It kind of
reminds me of total recall, the original one with our
nager and how they their you know, automatons were moving,
especially with the guy who was the Cabby did Johnny

(01:47:02):
Cab and seeing how.

Speaker 1 (01:47:08):
That type of AI works and compared to like some
of the other videos I've seen where you can tell
his AI is even though you know, if you fully
not aware of how they do it.

Speaker 2 (01:47:20):
It just felt like, Okay, you want me to believed
this person even though she's, oh, she's cute, she's very
business like, but she's not really being except her face
and all.

Speaker 1 (01:47:30):
She's moving in this weird way and weird like Chuck
E cheese yes and so.

Speaker 2 (01:47:37):
But all I think for his campaigning, I'm not sure
based off of the the views and when he had
like two hundred and twenty three likes out of it,
you know, from ten days ago.

Speaker 1 (01:47:52):
So but overall, it's it's like.

Speaker 2 (01:47:56):
I'm kind of like in this weird conflicting mode about
him not just winning to still be able to campaign, but.

Speaker 1 (01:48:05):
He barely did. And yeah, there was only sixty eight
hundred votes cast. It's a really it's like twelve percent turnout.
It's really low. Well, you know how people feel like
special elections. Special elections are like oh, okay, we have
yeah elections, So and he was there one with less
than thirty percent of the vote. He got twenty nine
point five percent of the vote, but it got split

(01:48:26):
because there were like a bunch of other people got
in the race. And if if they like the opposition
for lack of a better word, had coalesced around one person,
they would have trounced it. But everybody else, you know,
like you got too many other people wanted to be in.
Shila Bunn, Mike Austen, and Salem A Dofo. So that's

(01:48:51):
four other people. They split it twenty four percent, twenty
three point five and twenty two percent. So they all
came in with like a quarter of the vote. Tryon
just came in with a little higher than a quarter
of the vote. It's it's a tiny amount. So, like
the council now has this weird question of they could
vote preemptively to block him from taking office. He should

(01:49:14):
be sworn in after the election is certified on eight August,
so that's coming up. Could they could expel him again,
They could let him on and then expel him. They
could preemptively stop him. I don't know what the move
here is. I mean, clearly the community that he represents
supports him to some extent, at least in the majority

(01:49:38):
that he got the plurality of the votes, I should say,
and you know, I mean seventy percent of the people
voted against him, but thirty percent voted for him. Also,
speaking of the AI thing, I don't know if this
is just me that I've noticed it, but all the
AI faces it's the chin dimple. Yeah, why do we

(01:50:04):
all have the chin dimple?

Speaker 2 (01:50:05):
Because I think it's that it's at centering point, so
because you know, because the way how a robot boos,
it's it's based off of you know, whatever there's there.
You normally would be here. But I think the since

(01:50:26):
they have it here, it's kind of like they want
to you know, the motion.

Speaker 1 (01:50:31):
But why do they make it so prominent? Because like
one of the weird things that happens to me at
work is they send us these like training slides, you know,
to use for like safety briefings or whatever, and they've
started to use AI to generate the images in these things.
And the two things that are very obvious is the
lighting is weird. Right where it's it seems like the

(01:50:54):
light sources are coming from several different places. But all
of the people, no matter what they're at this it
is no matter what the other circumstances around in the
in the image the chin dimple, they've all got a
very and and like in real life, I don't see
a lot of chin dimples. No, not a comedy, it's not.
I'm not saying it doesn't, but it's not super common.

(01:51:16):
And these guys are looking like full American dad, like
cleft chin kind of thing, right, So, like, what is
going on here? Yeah, it's it's it's how it's designed
and how they somebody told it like chin dimple equals
most human looking.

Speaker 4 (01:51:32):
I guess.

Speaker 1 (01:51:34):
If you want to trick the humans, give him a
chin dimple. All human beings, real humans have chin dimples. Right.
I want to say this.

Speaker 3 (01:51:47):
I have.

Speaker 1 (01:51:47):
This is where I feel like, you know, I have
the confliction. I like Tranline.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
He's there for the community. He does he did well
and pretty much I believe, you know, what he did
wrong was for the community. My issue is I think
that instead of you know, the council having to go
this back and forth of okay, should we allow him in,

(01:52:14):
you know, if we lock him again or you know,
kick him out again, we'll have another special election. And
that's a lot more money need to be wasted and
stuff like, and again it's going to be this endless
cycle because the people want him in. My thing is
is just like this is where I felt like the
same thing with Trump. Why did you allow a person

(01:52:37):
who's either on.

Speaker 1 (01:52:39):
Trial for something, who's already convicted or whatever, whatever illegal
thing he's done, Why he's still on this ballot because
he's legally entitled to it. He's legally entitled.

Speaker 2 (01:52:51):
But the thing is here, it's just like if you
have convicts who can't vote, why do you have a
convict trying to get a convicted yet or even so,
what I'm saying, it's like, why you're having someone who's
on trial who's pretty much, you know, going through an
illegal situation.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
Well, theoretically he could beat the charge. He could, he
could be but the thing is, but again, the thing is,
it's like you're in a situation to where it's like
you again, you're causing a situation to where, again we're
debating this, it's like you have someone who's illegally doing something,
who's right now going through some legal drama that is

(01:53:38):
just going to cause a lot of problems down the line,
and which again it's are currently of it and we
even saw that in New York. So again, the thing
is is here is like, Okay, at what point in
time we got to say, hey, if you are running
for office but also having a court date down the line, no,

(01:53:59):
we're not doing this. You need to sit down. Unfortunately,
that's a choice the voters have to make, not a rule,
because it should be a rule. I'm just not it
can't be you though, because here's why it can't be right.
In this country, we have you have innocent until proven guilty.
And the reason that we have that condition is because
when you know, England was running the show, right, an

(01:54:23):
accusation was sufficient to be a condition R and so,
and you couldn't challenge the evidence presented. So imagine a
situation where like you and I are running against each other.
I'm the incumbent, and I want to make sure you
can't beat me, even though clearly you're going to win
because you have the most support, I get the prosecutor
to bring charges against you, and by your rule, if

(01:54:45):
you're charged, you're ineligible to run, even though the charges
are totally fake and totally made up. Now you're ineligible,
you can't run. I win again, and you go beat
the charge in court and be like, Yo, this was bullshit.
I should be sitting in my seat right now. That's
why we have that room. I guess that's why we
don't have that or that's yeah, that's why we don't

(01:55:07):
have that, right.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
But I understand that aspect. But at the same time,
it's kind of like, Okay, then we get what we're getting. Yes, so,
and then it feels like it's like it's like, I mean,
but like I said, if if you can say you
can dummy up a charge, but then again, where's something
where we say is like, hey, dude, this is what

(01:55:31):
we got here.

Speaker 1 (01:55:32):
We have pure evidence that you are actually involved in
something illegal. I have I think what's likely to happen.
If I had to guess that, like, what's gonna happen.
They're gonna let him on right, and then they're gonna
let the the court do the thing. And if he's
busted and he gets convicted, then they'll get rid of

(01:55:53):
him and then again.

Speaker 2 (01:55:54):
And then to me, I felt this a new point.
So it could have been like either a wait until
this trial is ended. I mean I felt like, you know,
having a special election.

Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
That's again, they're legally required to have required. But again,
as in US, say for a citizen of DC, I
felt like it was a.

Speaker 2 (01:56:15):
Freaking waste of time then because again you're gonna do
this again by next year.

Speaker 1 (01:56:20):
That seems Yeah. Unfortunately that's the case. Like we are
in this place where because of the freedoms that we
have and the protections against people using government, you know,
for malicious purposes, we have to allow also these other
dumb things to take place. There's no other way around it.

(01:56:44):
There is they don't want to change anything. Well, it's
not just that they don't want to change it. You can't.
You gotta be really careful what you wish for that.
I understand that. I trust believe there's I just wanted
some modification to certain things. And I feel like it's
like the things that obvious to you in the moment

(01:57:06):
can get turned on you later. True, I understand that,
very careful about it. I understand that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:13):
But like I said, we've had three instances to where
we had people running for office who had legal issues.

Speaker 1 (01:57:22):
There's bona.

Speaker 2 (01:57:25):
I know there are hundreds of them. But again, but
let's say of recent of recent occurrence. Sure, okay, of
recent occurrence, And I feel this, it's like, Okay, you
look at the disasters, like, okay, they have as you say,
they currently have their legal right to do what they're doing.
They can continue to you know, progress as a candidate

(01:57:45):
for whatever office they're sitting in. But at the same time,
it's like, if they get convicted, if.

Speaker 1 (01:57:51):
They get you know, whatever, we go through this situation
to where we have to have another special election, even
though it says in our constitution or state constitutions or
what have you to say, hey, we have to do this,
and it's like, we just had one a year ago,
we had one six months ago. You have to go
through this again. And that's why you see And here's

(01:58:13):
the thing, that's why you show them. You see those
low numbers for.

Speaker 2 (01:58:17):
This election because fact this is like one because most
of the people are probably you know, are normalized. The
fact is like, hey, we're used to having November whenever,
and you know, we're not used to this July weird shit,
we're not used to that.

Speaker 1 (01:58:31):
Or to fit simple facts like they don't give a shit,
it's all. That's all like totally fair. You know, the
Trump had classified documents in the fucking bathroom, right That
case was so so obvious and dead to write. But
because it hadn't moved forward fast enough, he was eligible

(01:58:54):
to run. And then as soon as he got in charge,
he crushed that case and made it go away. That is,
that is the thing that that the founding fathers did
not think of when they said because.

Speaker 2 (01:59:07):
Of the fact that they figured, did they everyone will
still be honorable on a certain day. They never thought
like a person, you know, am you know, an immigrant
from Germany or austri wherever the Trumps came from, come
here and fuck everything up.

Speaker 1 (01:59:23):
So it's well and it's not just him, but yeah,
basically the system is derived from the basic idea that
people would behave honorably and in good faith, and that
they wouldn't be you know, it has mechanisms to deal
with corruption, but they had never assumed that anybody would

(01:59:45):
be this corrupt and trans kind of on the low.

Speaker 2 (01:59:49):
End, you know, like like I said, I understood what
he was doing, but at the same time living somewhere
else outside of his district, which again is.

Speaker 1 (01:59:58):
There's all kinds of examples of this. This happens all
the time. There's members of Congress that get caught. There
was recently somebody who Uh the address that he listed
for his like home in the in the district that
he was representing, was like a boarded up shack. You know,
he didn't live there. There there was Mark Meadows, who

(02:00:20):
you know clearly was voting illegally using a residence that
was not his. And I mean, these kind of things
are like pretty consistently available across parties and at different levels,
whether it's at the low end of like local elections
all the way up to congressional or Senate stuff. It's

(02:00:41):
that that's kind of like unfortunately, the price we got
to pay. The problem with Treyon is that it's almost
comical and that he represents a caricature of this thing
that we already have to deal with all the time.
Is that this country loves examples of failures of black governance.

(02:01:09):
They love to point to times where uh, black elected
officials are caught being corrupt, whether it's Eric Adams or
whether it's Tryon White or whether it's anybody else, and
when when white politicians are busted for being corrupt, at
least in my mind, that's sort of like, well, yeah,

(02:01:30):
of course they are. And you know, like I'm like
what I expect that and and but like in the
Fox News stand, black political corruption is a plague on
this country and is a massive problem, and white political
corruption is like it happens, you know, so like every

(02:01:53):
time we the collective we and in this case, like
you know, people in d C give them another example.
It feels like this is an unforced error. We just
don't need this. And here was seventy percent of the
vote that wasn't portray on. So there's there was an

(02:02:14):
opportunity to get this right and at least take away
this other example that they're gonna use. I guarantee it,
guarantee it. The second he's sworn in, it's gonna be
all of it. Fox News is gonna cover tround White
more frequently than Epstein, and they're gonna talk about how,

(02:02:34):
you know, uh DC is once again just like Marion
Barry from the exact same ward, and it's the all
black board has voted in this guy who's facing these
charges for bribery, and they're gonna play the video of
him taking the envelope and they're gonna be like this,
this is the problem with black self governance. And then

(02:02:55):
Trump's gonna point to that and he's gonna be like,
this is why DC shouldn't have home rule because look
at who they allow, and and and the irony will
be completely lost. Right, You're gonna be like, you're convicted
of thirty four felony accounts, Like no, I wasn't shut up.
I'm white. This that's what he's gonna say. And Treyon,

(02:03:19):
who is actually white because that's his last name, is
gonna be like, hey man, I'm only pending conviction. And
Trump's gonna be like, or he's gonna get convicted, kicked
off the thing, and Trump's gonna point to him as
an example of how the system is railroading, and he's
gonna try to like bring Treyon in, you know, on
his side, and be like, look, I have a black friend.
Now it's fine, I'm not racist. Look Treyon's standing right

(02:03:42):
next to me. You know, that's the kind of white
power I support. Right that, that's the kind of thing
that like could happen. It's all bad and it doesn't
need to be there. Tran didn't need to be correct.
He could have done the thing. He could have been
a good community leader and not taking the money. He
could have done that. But again, I think he is,

(02:04:02):
is this you know he used this money for in
the community. No, he didn't use it for himself. He
said right in the video, he was like, I need
the money, man. Well I get what I'm saying here
is I felt like, yeah, he's trying to better himself.
And as he was steering contracts to people who bribed him,
whether the result of those contracts is still that the

(02:04:23):
people got the help that they needed, that's possible, it's
kind of hard to measure. And you know, does he
have this attitude of like, look, I'm out here helping
the community. I'm not getting paid well enough for what
I do. I'm entitled to a little bit more than
what i'm you know, legally getting. Yeah, that's maybe a
fair enough argument. But it's fair enough argument that then

(02:04:43):
maybe they should get paid a better salary to avoid
this kind of corruption. But that wasn't the argument. What
he did was he went out and said, hey, you
want this contract, you got to give me some cash.
And then they did that and and so you know,
it is what it is. It's but he didn't have
to be that and the voters didn't need to choose
him either. The voters the voters had chose seventy, not him.

(02:05:07):
If they split, yeah right, the opposition had just picked one,
they would have won handily, you know, but whatever, I know.
All right, let's get on to the football team. Okay,
so we don't have to go through all of this
stuff about all the people who are lining up to

(02:05:29):
say how offensive and stupid Donald Trump is. But the
Washington football team used to be called a racial slur,
and it has since changed names twice, from the Racial
Slur to Washington Football Team and then from Washington Football
team to the Commanders. Commanders is a stupid name. It's

(02:05:53):
it's not good. I don't like it. It is still
my team. I still support them. I love them for
what they're doing, although they hurry up and sign McLaurin
because it's really dragon and it's making me nervous. And yes,
I'm supporting Terry McLaurin. You didn't see me in this hat.
But I like the guy, okay, And as far as

(02:06:14):
I'm concerned, we can just forgive him for that time
in Columbus and he can just be a Washington football
team hero and we can just I don't know where
we drafted it from, but like the team changed his name.
It had this painful racist name for so long, and

(02:06:37):
I thought we did mostly turn the corner on this,
Like there are a few people who are who around
who still say that that name. I still say it occasionally,
I slip. You know, my kids are doing a good
job of catching me. I asked them with that. I
was like, if you hear Daddy call them this word,
make a you know, fuss about it. And it's working, right,

(02:07:00):
it's mostly shaming me into not calling him that name.
Then a lot of time, the dumbest fucking guy to
ever have a job in this country, and he's out
here threatening to scuttle the RFK deal over wanting the
name to go back to the former racist name. And

(02:07:25):
I don't think he actually cares one bit. I think
he's just trying to distract everybody from abstraction. But as
you know, with Donald Trump, there is always a tweet.
Do you have the tweet? Both of them? All? Right? Here?
You go? So here back in twenty thirteen when Obama

(02:07:47):
was president, and he was like, yeah, I think the
name is racist and they should change it. He wrote, quote,
President should not be telling the Washington Word to change
their name. Our country has far bigger problems. Focus on them,
not nonsense. Never mind the grammatical ridiculousness of that statement,

(02:08:13):
but because here he is exactly. However, many years later,
twelve years later, as president, with a long complicated the
Washington whatever should immediately change their name back to the
to the racist name that they had before, and and
like there's big clamoring for this, and he and he
tried to tie it to Native Americans. He's like, yeah,

(02:08:35):
Native Americans want their their name back because they felt
like it was it was Come on, guy, come on, man,
I don't know what. Get your head in the game. Right.
Where was that first guy who's like presidents shouldn't be
telling teams what to name? That was right? Doesn't the

(02:08:56):
team have free speech and name themselves the Washington whatever
is if that's what they want to be. The fuck
man am alone. I think it's one.

Speaker 2 (02:09:09):
Like you said earlier, it's a lot of distractions. It's
another distraction to me. I'm I'm confused when he even
said it, and and it was the attachment of the
stadium deal, and I felt like, what does he have
to be involved in this stadium?

Speaker 1 (02:09:28):
But I don't get it because it's a federal thing.
I was a federal and so they did. The Senate voted,
Congress voted to give it to DC. Right, that's a
done deal. But there's still some federal aspect of it
and how this gets transferred in, how like what the
rules are and a few other things. So like, he
could fuck it up, right, and I felt I just

(02:09:53):
feel like for him to do this too again of
a name chain, what's the better way to describe Donald Trump? Yeah,
I know, I get that, but I mean, I'm gonna
keep it one hundred for you. I felt like.

Speaker 2 (02:10:13):
When Cleveland and Washington and even the Chiefs you can't
say Chiefs. I remember back in the nineties, a lot
of people were trying to force the name change on
these teams because by the time they were even the
antline Brays at the time, they were top tier teams.

Speaker 1 (02:10:30):
That's why I.

Speaker 2 (02:10:30):
Felt like that that was the That's why I felt
like this whole push to change their name. It's just
just started a recent year recently, especially you know the
time where the commanders were born. Yeah, you can sit
there and say this's like, oh, there's the racial tones

(02:10:51):
that you know, the climate thing of how people feel
about certain names and things of that nature. To me,
for Washington, we all know the real reason of the
name James because Ane Sneyder was an idiot. Dane Snyder
was a bad owner. Daniel Sneyder needed distraction.

Speaker 1 (02:11:10):
That was it. I mean, that's that's why he renegged
on his on his commitment to never change it. But
but to that point, that's kind of why I don't
want I want to disassociate with the old stuff, like
because I want to move to the news.

Speaker 2 (02:11:26):
But here's what part. But here's the sad part of it.
He's part of this current name though, So you're you.
Everyone will forget that, you know, as much as everyone's
trying to embrace the commander's name. But that name was
broughten by a person who wanted to disassociate you from
the first place.

Speaker 1 (02:11:44):
Yeah kind of.

Speaker 2 (02:11:45):
But but the only thing that again, the only thing
that will clear this up is Washington winning. And this
past season. You know, last season it was a winning season.
It was I would say a decent successful season is
for many fans, and and at you know, it's like, okay, great,
let's get into.

Speaker 1 (02:12:02):
The next season.

Speaker 2 (02:12:03):
Hopefully, like you said, Terry McCollough, will get signed and
we'll move on from this and hopefully, you know, whatever
this crazy you know nonsense that the Orange Branch is
trying to put out there, you know, just goes away
because it just because really I feel like, you know,
if this hinders the stadium deal for them, I really

(02:12:26):
think it's it's gonna screwed them over for a good
long time.

Speaker 1 (02:12:29):
Yeah, I don't think it's actually going to stop the
stadium thing, because to her credit, Mayor Bowser is incredibly
good at this exact thing. She managed to keep the
Caps you know, happy at MCI Center. She's she knows
how to manage stuff with big public projects and stadiums
and and like redevelopment, you know, with Audifield and all
of that. Like she we're looking at a time when

(02:12:51):
we can have four stadiums in the city limits for
all the major sports teams in the region. That's nearly
unheard of most of most of the other big cities
that have their sports teams that are not inside the
city limits, not all of them. Chicago kind of stands
out like that, but but a lot of them are
like on the outskirts or whatever, because that's where the
space is. Bowser knows how to how to how to

(02:13:14):
deal with the Trump people. She's demonstrated that so far,
there's always the threat of home rule, and that's that's
the thing. Was like, you know, they can always come
for the home rule and and take that away from
from the district. And that is the thing that I'm
actually concerned about. But in terms of like getting distance
between us and Snyder, everything that puts distance, I don't

(02:13:36):
care that he he was technically owning the team when
the name changed to Washington Football Team and then to Commanders.
We can that that that can look like a transition
period in my mind. We can get away from that.
We can get to a new stadium, we can get
rid of the names, we can get rid of the
old anybody who worked for him, you know, we can.
We can just get as far away from Dan Snyder

(02:13:58):
as possible. Revert the name. Unfortunately then ties us back
to him. So does it revert back to him or
does it revert back to to the glory days? No,
because we already couldn't revert back to that the whole
time we were under Undersidner and and and couldn't like
conjure up the images of Joe Gibbs or or George

(02:14:19):
Allen or any of that stuff. We just couldn't get
back to that, Sonny and all of that. No, we
couldn't do it. And then there was too much baggage
with that, right, George Allen's a racist. Joe Gibbs couldn't
win when he came back. You know, all of the
stuff happening in the front office and all of the
other things with the broadcast teams terrible. Like there's just
no good association with the last forty years of this team.

(02:14:42):
The wins, yes, but the other stuff around it, no,
And and I just want to get clean of that, Like,
let's just move past it and go play football. Trump
is an idiot in a lot of ways. He's especially
needed if he thinks he can successfully pick a fight
with the n FL. And there's nothing in those countries

(02:15:03):
as popular as the NFL.

Speaker 2 (02:15:04):
Yeah, my thing is of lately his his bullyiness of
getting into sports. I mean, he's been trying to get
in the NFL for years.

Speaker 1 (02:15:12):
He wanted in so bad. But yeah, but the way
he's not gonna help Cadel anything Goodell's gonna tell him
to fuck off, right. So, but my thing is is
just like, you know what, mind you. We just had
the FIFA Club World Cup thing and that little bit
incident where he ate on stage where Chelsea was trying

(02:15:33):
to lift its trophy and he's still on there. It
is like, you know, mind you, speaking of photoshop, you
got to get photoshopped out of their t picture because
that's not your jot. You're not supposed to be.

Speaker 2 (02:15:45):
You were got to just present and walk off and
you know, let's stay on and clap it. It's like, no, dude,
get off, and but mind you, it's like this is
this is why I think it's just him and his
weirdness of being involved in things that don't belong. And
it's like, again, he's not a leader.

Speaker 1 (02:16:03):
He never is.

Speaker 2 (02:16:04):
He's all about himself and he presents himself in a
way where it's it's mind you, we say laughable, but
really it's tragic, tragically laughable.

Speaker 1 (02:16:15):
Yes, because an old man that behaves like a three
year old.

Speaker 2 (02:16:19):
Right, and on top of that, this is what has
an American system. This is who is representing us through
the rest.

Speaker 11 (02:16:26):
Of the world.

Speaker 1 (02:16:27):
Yeah, that's unfortunate. Yeah, you know what's what's better though,
who we could have representing us Stephen Colbert. So Stephen
Colbert has u informed us that CBS is canceling the
Late Show. They're not just canceling him, they're canceling the
whole old show. Yeah. Now they're making the case that

(02:16:50):
this is a financial decision, and they're not wrong that
the Late Show loses money, and that late night TV
is a tough business these days because it's expensive to
produce and the viewership is down all the way around.
People don't stay up for it, or they watch it
the next day on YouTube. It's true that Colbert has

(02:17:13):
half the the YouTube viewers that Kimmel does, but he's
number one in the ratings currently, He's got two and
a half million viewers every night, and to take the
number one show off the air doesn't exactly track. And
just tonight it broke that the FCC signed off on
the deal to allow the merger between Paramount and Skydance.

(02:17:36):
So Paramount or CBS paid Trump sixteen million dollars to
settle a lawsuit that they were very clearly going to
win where he was suing them over the way. They
edited an interview with Kamala Harris which made no sense whatsoever.
Then they promised him like twenty million dollars of other

(02:17:59):
coverage or something like that if the merger went through.
And then they fired Colbert, who has made his entire
time while Trump has been president of being a Trump critic.
And it's so obvious what's going on here, right, CBS
kissed the ring, They did all this stuff to try

(02:18:19):
to get the merger. They got the merger. Now here's
the thing they're gonna get fucked right, It's never gonna
be enough. He's still gonna go after them for something
they put on sixty minutes is never gonna be enough.
And whoever the new owners are, if they're gonna try
to like play Kate Trump, it is never gonna be enough.
He's not gonna like the way they covered a football game.

(02:18:40):
And then he's gonna be like fire Jim Nantzer, I'm
gonna take your license away like it's it is never
gonna be enough. So it was a dumb move. It's
a cowardly move. It's disrespectful to Colbert, it's disrespectful to
his team, it's disrespectful to the viewers. Guy's been on
that network for ten years and before that, on The
Colbert Report for ten years on another paramount property on

(02:19:03):
Comedy Central. He was so good as a fake conservative
pundit that my in laws thought he was real. They
didn't realize that it was a joke, all right, And
I would love to see that come back in some fashion.
He kind of hinted at it. He did that little
eyebrown thing. He's like, but they left me alive, and
he did the thing. I don't know that he's interested

(02:19:28):
in doing that, but I know that when his show
ends in May, he's looking for a job. Come to
Bellot Radio. You will definitely help you do the show.
We do not have forty million dollars a year to
produce it with, but we will definitely put you on
the air. I think he's set for life to help
produce our shows. Yeah right, I want to come on
Chipchat and just be like the background guy making fun,

(02:19:51):
just doing the boys. We're cool with that. We just
want to see you just just be be available for
us as as people. Because I got to tell you, like,
you know, and this is a little self serving, right,
but we talk about this a lot that comedy is
kind of really important for dealing with the tough stuff
and all through all of this onslaught of tragedy. I

(02:20:13):
have personally really looked to Colbert, Stuart, Seth Myers, Kimmel
as as like ways to process this, because you need that.
And it's kind of what we do here, although a
little wonkier. Well, we're making fun of the terrible things
to try to feel a little less bad about him

(02:20:34):
and give ourselves a little bit of therapy here, Solas. So,
I just I think that what they did was wrong.
I like to see the unity of the late night
host you know, they all came out and supported him,
found and Seth Myers and and Oliver and Stuart were
together and like they did all the things, Anderson Cooper

(02:20:56):
and Andy Cohen And it's just it's like you said, this,
CBS exposed themselves even before it was you know, the
sixty minute thing was the real kicker. This is you know,
we're lamenting this over a comedian, but we should be

(02:21:16):
paying attention to this because this is how fascism works.
I do agree, and this is a little thing, but
it is not a little thing.

Speaker 2 (02:21:25):
No, this is actually it is a It's unfortunate the
fact that for CBS, you know, CBS had it's been
well known for their news and especially some with their anchors,
And I was thinking of fact, Yeah, I was thinking
the fact it is like of Walter Cronkite, if he

(02:21:45):
was alive and him hearing this happening, you know, within
his network trust and believe, he will be literally like,
oh fuck.

Speaker 1 (02:21:57):
No, I'm surprised he hasn't jump back up out of
the grave to like do something about this. No, you've
got you've got I mean because those because honestly, it
felt like a good a huge slap in the face
where it's like you're discrediting our news organization for something
that you fabricated something on and get to the point

(02:22:21):
where he's like you settled on this where we're in
the right, And I felt Colbert pointing that out. It
is just like proven the fact that it's like, hey,
I'm defending with the journalists.

Speaker 2 (02:22:35):
I'm with the journalists, I'm with her people who because
mind you, even though my ship was fake, but he
was doing some journalists work, yes, and and and these
two things could they go together, right?

Speaker 1 (02:22:47):
But also like, okay, Trump attacks colleges and institutions of
truth and learning. He's gone after public media and trying
to kill that for reporting the truth. He attacked ABC
for reporting the truth. He attacked CBS for reporting the truth.
He managed to get the Washington Post to, you know,

(02:23:08):
change their editorial management style. You've seen a hollowing out.
Dan Balls is leaving after forty seven years there. What
the fuck? Uh? Like even the sports section is and
I've noticed that Post articles are shrinking right, Like the
Washington Post is under attack. He's attacking, He's suing journalists.

(02:23:31):
He's assuing the Wall Street Journal over them reporting there. Like,
he's not gonna even go through with that lawsuit because
they're gonna get to the deposition and they're they're gonna
be like, all right, present your evidence that we're defaming you.
They're gonna be like, here's your letter, We've got the goods.
And he's not gonna want to get the posed and
have to talk about and he's gonna drop it. But
it's it's just the attack. The Macrons are suing Candae

(02:23:56):
Owens for lying about Bridget Macrome being a man vie.
I'm kind of glad they're going after her. Yeah, good,
But that is that is part of the thing. That's
what I'm talking about, This attack on the truth. The
attack on the media that is fascist.

Speaker 2 (02:24:15):
The thing, well, like listen is it's the funny thing
here is it's the fact that Trump's social media handle
is social Truth and it's like, dude, you haven't spelt
one bit of truth ever.

Speaker 1 (02:24:26):
And that's the whole point. It's nineteen eighty four, right,
that's the whole thing. That the Ministry of Peace is
the one that conducts the wars. It is. It is
about this overt gaslighting, and so Colbertson is a victim
of it. We're gonna see what happens. But but just
like we're mad and sad, but this is not a

(02:24:51):
new show. No, it's not a yeah.

Speaker 4 (02:24:56):
And I.

Speaker 1 (02:24:58):
Can bet you if you if you were able to
go back to find something equivalent in Italy in the
early thirties or in the late twenties, or in Germany
in the early thirties, you know where there's like, hey,
these newspapers are changing their editorial staff, like what gibs here.
That's the thing, that's the harbinger, that's the big.

Speaker 2 (02:25:20):
I'll give you something more closer, like the late twenty
late twentieth century. Like you I've mentioned before, I lived
in two countries that pretty much, you know, had a dictator.
When I was in Panama and during the whole beginning

(02:25:40):
stages of the whole Manuel Noriega's you know, crumbling institution,
he pretty much blocked out CNN. We were getting CNN
on our cable station, and then like eighty seven eighty six,
because I was I left Panamani eighty it's around late
mid eighty six, early eighty seven, they took away CNN

(02:26:05):
and I was like, what the hell's going on? And
I'm not seen it had you know, like I was
wanting to see the sports to night stuff and and things.

Speaker 1 (02:26:12):
Of that nature.

Speaker 2 (02:26:13):
But it was like they took it out because they
were constantly promoting or not promote. They were mentioning the
fact of what Manuel Noriega has been.

Speaker 1 (02:26:21):
Doing, right, they were reporting the truth, were running there,
you know, their truth.

Speaker 2 (02:26:25):
So it was like, oh, okay, so mind you Being
a teenager at the time, I was like, I didn't
fully was not fully all aware of that, but I
knew full well there was something really weird going on
going into Zimbabwe and knowing how again that how that's
set up pretty much their news organization.

Speaker 1 (02:26:47):
Even though my dad liked the fact that it's like
they were reporting the news. But the thing is is
like some of the things that they were reporting was
kind of like pretty much is like basic shit. And
what I mean basic here is the simple fact. It's
like it's Goby Wood did anything. Whatever he did, it
was all good and grander, and that was it. They

(02:27:09):
didn't have that inflation was rampant. They reported that there
was weather, yes or whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:27:15):
Yeah, all even though the rest of the country knows
well is is crumbling around his feet. They pretty much
just says, but his shoes were maculate, That's what. And
I'm like, are you kidding me? Because what I'm hearing
on the streets is just like I can't you know,
bread is costing more than should A's are costing more

(02:27:36):
than it should I can't get decent whatever and things
that you know, you know, everything is just going haywire.

Speaker 1 (02:27:42):
But his shoes look great. All right, that's how we're
going to do this, all right, fine, because that's where
it is happening here. And like you said before, it's
a simple fact.

Speaker 2 (02:27:52):
As like, you know, Trump does not like the media,
even though he's using the media for his own means,
and it's he.

Speaker 1 (02:28:00):
Doesn't like the media reporting things. Yeah, no, no, he
doesn't like the media report things about him badly does
anything that's that's truthful, Like he wants to control of
what is true and what isn't true. And what he
really wants is there to be this thing where Americans
can't tell what's true and what's not because that gives

(02:28:21):
him the ability to do fuck all anything.

Speaker 2 (02:28:24):
Here's the thing, this is why he's He's just stupid,
simply enough stupid he is. The people he's trying to
manipulate are a following that ship until thee until we
whatever happens with him, while people like you and I
we haven't drunk that kool aid we have since day one,

(02:28:46):
and until he feels as like, oh, I'll get you,
just give it some time, and he figures like we're
gonna wear down and finally succumb to this bullshit, It's like, no,
all you're doing is infuriating us.

Speaker 1 (02:28:57):
Yeah, but I don't think that going to get us
to wear down. He'll get us to either be scared
enough to shut up, or he'll take us away.

Speaker 2 (02:29:07):
Until until I see and I pray I will never
see it, until I see some military group going to
let's say Jimmy Fallon or Brettier even the Daily Show
and hijack that thing and say hey, you need to stop.

Speaker 1 (02:29:25):
What you're doing. And I'm like, okay. Then I only
realize like, okay, this is we're definitely in some ship.
Well yeah, but the problem is by then it's too late.

Speaker 2 (02:29:34):
So we need to But I'm saying but in saying,
he is like, as of right now, it's like, look
for CNN, I mean, sorry for CBS to pull Colbert
and you know, eliminate the entire late night stuff that
they're doing.

Speaker 1 (02:29:46):
It's like, okay, mind you. They can sit there and
say if it's for financial reason, It's like, okay, if
it's for financial reason, you're taking away your number one
late night talk show. All right, that's on you, and
go baby, be stupid about it.

Speaker 2 (02:29:58):
I'm sick and tired of seeing these dumb ass ads,
the Trump ad on my damn paramount plus every time
I'm watching a show, because this is the most dumbest thing,
because I know foils a bunch of lies anyway, because
I know you cater to that shit. The point here
is is the fact, simple fact is like look for
CBS to do this just to get a deal. I mean,

(02:30:19):
mind you again, another freaking partnership or merger with a
company that problem will lasts for five years. Makes no
sense if you're.

Speaker 1 (02:30:28):
Doing Sherry Redstone because she just got like four billion
dollars by doing this. So that again is what the
fourth merger. It doesn't matter. She sold the company outright
like she doesn't have to own anything anymore. She's getting
paid the only way to merger, I get it. But
the only way the sale could go through is if
she can make sure that Trump didn't scuttle it. So

(02:30:49):
she paid off Trump to get the sale so that
she could get her money. Again, this is why I
not about news, and it's not about truth. It's about
her getting paid.

Speaker 2 (02:30:59):
I get it, I get that, But this is again,
this is where I felt like that deal back in
the nineties that Clinton fucked out. God I didn't like
to wanting those crazy mergers. I don't because it all
it does is it screws up the whole aspect.

Speaker 1 (02:31:14):
Ownership of news organizations is a failure. It's not safe.
It doesn't lend itself well to actual management of news.
It doesn't lend itself well to distribution of the truth.
It is a it is dangerous. This is the results
of it. This is the thing that Celes Headley was

(02:31:34):
warning us about when we talked to her about it.
This is why things like public media are so critical,
and they're going after that too. So the truth is
out there, thank you, David Duchovney, and it's up to
us to continue to broadcast it. But you know, we

(02:31:56):
can't ever be in that situation where this show is
the the pirate radio of the truth, because they'll come
for me anyway, you know, like I'm on a list several.
All I'm saying is let this one not just be
a sad thing about a funny guy, a very serious

(02:32:18):
warning of a regime, a fascist regime, regime that seeks
to control the flow of information in a profound way
that makes it difficult to fight back against them. And
that is what we need to be worried about, much

(02:32:39):
more worried about than people are. And and stop telling
me that I'm crazy when I tell you to be
worried about this, because it is a very fast, slippery slope.
And by the time we get to the situation that
you described of them coming and shutting down the Daily Show,
we have at that point, we will have already crossed
into terror. So speaking of shows ending, ours is ending.

(02:33:05):
We want to say thank you to Kenny Paxson's wife
Angela for making the Texas Senate race interesting, which we
will let that story cook for a little while and
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(02:33:26):
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(02:33:46):
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(02:34:06):
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Speaker 2 (02:34:08):
We're going to continue discussion about the Redskin name chains
and also the stadium deal and also other things with.

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