Washington DC Under Occupation chapter 1

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
So dumb.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
How long have you known me?

Speaker 1 (00:04):
How long from now?

Speaker 2 (00:35):
It is nine thirty on a Thursday night and you
were tuned into belt Wait Radio Andy on, which can
mean one the only thing.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
This is Jim Chat. Wasn't the chip chat? Everybody? I'm Jim?
Who are you? Jes You just told him, buddy? Why
did you? What's up? What's down? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
The mic caught the very end of that last little conversation,
and before this started.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
We should do that more. We should actually have like
a beginning that it's like yeah, like the first like
I don't know, three minutes or whatever the hell we're
talking about, and then go into the show.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
Like, oh wait, we got to do a show.

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Yeah, right exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:19):
But I do want I do want to meddle if
I accurately predicted the way democracy ends.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
In the United States.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
Okay, I mean predicting the end of democracy is a
little too easy, right, but specifically the way that it's
gonna happen. I've got a lot of it right so far.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
So I I thing I want to be right about.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, listen, you want to be right? I always want
to be right.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Oh god, no, sometimes it's not worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Uh, yeah, you're right and not worth.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
It right now? Not worth it. I hope you are
incredibly wrong.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
Well me too, But I was wrong about the military parade,
quote unquote being that one.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
That one was nothing.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
I predicted that was gonna be how the military was
going to occupy the district. As it turns out, there's
a slightly different path.

Speaker 1 (02:19):
There's easier ways to do that.

Speaker 2 (02:21):
Yeah, well I'm not that wasn't that far off as.

Speaker 1 (02:24):
We've seen, yay, not being a staked Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
So, welcome to a special edition of chip Chat this week.
Our episode is officially we are now officially Resistance Radio.
I don't know what else to call it. Be ready
for this to become that, speaking of radio, just so
that people kind of maybe think about this. And I

(02:51):
don't know how the timelines on this are a little
bit foggy, but you know what we're seeing now is
the very standard fascist playbook where you basically point to
an emergency that maybe doesn't exist and use that as

(03:11):
a pretext to deploy the military and civilian situation, which
is specifically designed to sort of inflame the situation and
hope that somebody kind of reacts or overreacts and that
thus you can you know, crack down harder and whatnot.
But the next steps in the fascist playbook are often

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things like the Internet or other important means of communication
that could be used to organize any kind of resistance
or even just mutual aid or whatever, are disrupted. This
show comes to you via the Internet. I'm sure there
are other important things that happen on the Internet, but
you know, mostly this show. And I think that that

(03:59):
could change in a relatively quick fashion. I'm not totally
sure when, but I do think there is a way
that the government, if they want to, can essentially disrupt
the Internet. I'm not sure they can knock it out entirely,
but I think they can disrupt it.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
That being said, I think the only the commercial means
of the Internet might be tricky to do that. I
think they can target specific people, but.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Yeah, I think they can. I think they can.

Speaker 1 (04:34):
There's not going to be it's not Turning it off
isn't an option in this country, like I know they've
done in other places. But the way commerce moves, you
can't really do that. And I think that's still no
one's blowing it up where you can't get your amaz
on packages and there would be an angry CEO that
will be at the White House calling to be like hey,

(04:54):
as we've seen another CEO d in white who has
a huge paramount deal, like, they will go and ask
because there are still like mutual like there's a financial
implication that the individual in the White House will always
respond to for the people who have already responded to him, Like.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
I think if there Yeah, it's possible.

Speaker 1 (05:15):
The Internet's not going I don't think the internet's going
out personally, It's not like like like Egypt, like no,
we're not like they just.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
It might not be quite that much, but it could
very quickly become substantially less reliable and less safe to
communicate on. All that is to say that the thing
that has historically protected populations against full on you know,

(05:45):
fascist overrun or the thing that has often been the
saving protection or response to UH occupation or whatever you
want to call.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
It is radio.

Speaker 2 (06:00):
And you know, historically speaking, the radio as a means
of communication is the sort of most resistance thing you
can think of, you know, gorilla radio as it were,
or pirate radio, because it's very difficult to stop.

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You can't really and not what we're doing I don't
think you're not talking about what we're doing.

Speaker 2 (06:24):
I think you're talking about No, No, I'm talking about likes. Yes,
that's where I'm going with this. So in addition to
being good at listening to US, I would recommend that
people get good at listening to the regular radio. If
you have abandoned terrestrial radio in like a very real sense,

(06:45):
like if you stream and PR that's not radio, you
need to have a radio. You probably need to have
several of them, and you probably need to have ones
that are you know, ways that you can charge them battery,
soul or whatever that you can get to them, you know,
for periods of time. It would also probably be a

(07:08):
good idea to have some communication radios, you know, in
case the cell phone networks are a little disrupted and.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
Just I don't think this is fear mongering when we're
saying the cell phone If we're saying the cell phone
networks are gonna go down, I think that is a
little bit nice tharely go down. But now we're telling
people to go into like I don't know, I feel
like we're walking the line of telling people to go
into their bunkers and go ahead and have rations and whatnot.
I don't know if we're there yet.

Speaker 2 (07:33):
We're maybe not there yet, but it isn't a bad
idea to be ready.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
And I and and I think, look at those stocks, guys.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yeah, I look radio matters in a really profound way.
And you know, I'm I'm always right about all these
things on this show, and Tez always tells me I'm wrong.
And then I get to say, like, see, I told
you so. Democracy is falling.

Speaker 1 (07:57):
But it is.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
It is a thing, Okay, So just get a radio,
Get a real radio, one that receives signals over the air.

Speaker 1 (08:05):
I'm not arguing. I think that's not a bad thing
to have in general, whether it's natural disasters or other.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Things exactly, weather band radio.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
Larger reason to have it. I don't want to fear.

Speaker 2 (08:16):
I don't want to fear on people, like, you know,
get a weather band radio. Get something maybe like a
CB radio that you can you can communicate with over
some reasonable distance, not a tremendous distance. Uh, you know,
maybe look into ham radio or you know, anything like that.
I'm not saying that you need it. I'm saying it's

(08:37):
not a bad idea to have it. And I and
because it could matter, right, Imagine a situation. We are
not near there yet, but imagine a situation where the
communication networks are disrupted and you need to be able
to figure out where to go to get food, or
where to go to get water, or where to go
to to organize or something like that.

Speaker 1 (08:55):
You gotta think about the reason. We got to think
about the reasons for that. Because cell phone disruption has
happened before. It happened through nine to eleven, depending on Like,
there's other events that have happened where the cell phone's
like to go down and you know, like people figure
it out. I think where I get weary about this
is the reason for this happening because you're saying the
reason is that someone has turned off Like.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
It's not necessarily just that they could turn it off. Like,
we are very dependent on a set of critical infrastructure
that only works because people keep it working. And if
the people have a reason not to be going to work.
I mean, we saw this a little bit in COVID,
where like the essential workers, right, if the line workers
aren't there to keep the electricity on, right, the cell

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phones aren't gonna work. Or if the if the people
who run the pumping stations for the municipal water supplies
aren't there for some reason, or they can't get to work,
or there's some disruption, those things can become disrupted. So
whether it's a disaster or anything else, I'm just saying

(10:01):
that all of us expected the electricity to be there.
When we plug something in, we expect a phone call
to go through. You know, what was old James L. Jones,
Like the call doesn't mean anything unless the call goes through, right,
like Atlantic Bell Atlantic. Yeah, that stuff that's is kind
of like important. So I'm just just like decentralized networks,

(10:26):
decentralized communications, the ability to talk across distances, not necessarily
huge distances, but some distances that can get disrupted. And
and a lot of people, you know, I'm old enough
to remember riding my bike to each of my friend's
house to like see who was available to come outside
that day. Yes, you know, because maybe I couldn't call them.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
But that that that ability is it.

Speaker 1 (10:53):
Is it's shut off for many people in this country
that doesn't.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
It doesn't even occur to them that you could just
go over to the house and ask, right, So just
like you know, kind of keep that in the back.
I'm not trying to scare anybody. I'm just you know.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I think you've taken seven minutes to scare everybody.

Speaker 2 (11:10):
Don't listen to me, you.

Speaker 1 (11:12):
Know, don't listen to you. But you're always right.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
All right. But in any case, the federal troops are
in our city again this time though.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
Talk about this. That's why we were freaking filibustering because
we don't talk about I don't want to talk about.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Just thank you, Brian. Just like the last time, nobody's
quite sure what they're doing here. Let's see rfks bull
seamen has been shooting at the CDC. Uh yeah, that's
also pretty scary. Taco tariffs if you if you played
the dip or did you bacon the taco? You know,

(11:48):
did you make your taco trades?

Speaker 1 (11:50):
This week we'll see kind of got another one.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
Extra hot toss. Yeah, that's what it's gonna be on
the list. And then uh yeah, Trump and are gonna
have some sort of a meeting and in old Russia,
in old Russia and what used to be Russia. Sorry,
and we're back to pay for play at this time.

(12:14):
It's not about access to DJs. No, it's like you're
not allowed to have a company unless.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
You pay tribute. Crazy, yo, where where the libertarian there's.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
Milton Friedman with Republicans. I don't know.

Speaker 1 (12:33):
I don't know that is crazy, but I get I
do get the CEOs and I know people are asking
them to do more. And you would think because they
have fuck you money to be like, all right, will
fuck you. I don't have money when it comes to
the federal government exactly, and it's clear that they're like, oh,
we're going to try to ride this out too. Y'all

(12:55):
can say what you want. Maybe this will blow over
in four years and there'll be something different. But right now,
I mean, I just a man. Tim Cook. He showed
up with the gold with the gold, the little gold
so it was sand by the Marines. They're playing notes
and I I mean, if we look at and this,

(13:15):
people will hate this. But like, if you look at
the CEO's responsibility, what is the responsibility to the shareholders?
What is it a fiduciary responsibility that that's what it is.
And it seems they're like we're going to figure that out.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, And to some extent, Mirael Bowser is sort of uh,
you're like test case you're you're maybe the best at
this of anybody right now. Of like ride the wave,
you know, don't try against the current, just ride it out.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
And and incredibly because like I don't I get that
frustrates to me. I I but I also I understand
the other side, but it does frustrate me because you know,
people want people wanted to see their elected officials fight,
and the follow up would be, this is a form
of fighting. And again I don't know, I under I

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feel like I can see from the thirty thousand foot
level if I was in the same position, it'd be
really crazy because it's the it is the arm of
the federal government that can crush you.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
It is a military occupation in her, in her, we're
gonna have to talk about when.

Speaker 1 (14:18):
It's the law.

Speaker 2 (14:20):
It is right.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
It's so like for thirty days and until they go
to anyways, we'll get to that.

Speaker 2 (14:25):
We're gonna get to that. But but yeah, it's gonna
be so it's gonna be fun, you know. Yeah, And
we have to have a short show because tes needs
to go somewhere.

Speaker 1 (14:35):
Yeah, I'm going to Las Vegas, right, I'm the break.
I don't even feel comfortable, like because I'm we're talking
all of this. I got this damn working families. But
I'm full of shit too because I'm I'm supporting. I'm
supporting the that's going on too.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
No, you're gonna be paying for it because you're the
idiot that's going to Las Vegas in August.

Speaker 1 (14:59):
Yes, you don't.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
I don't know if you've ever been in Vegas in
the summertime.

Speaker 1 (15:05):
It is, it's very bad.

Speaker 2 (15:07):
You want to know what you need chapstick and you
don't think.

Speaker 1 (15:12):
The drive right, You're still.

Speaker 2 (15:16):
We are very used to hot and we don't. I
don't know anybody in Yeah, I don't know anybody in
DC that needs chapstick during the summer months, right, because it's.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
Not get it, get something dry. It's almost the same thing.
Like you, I still go and apply your lotion, but
it's so hot that at the end of the.

Speaker 2 (15:35):
Day it's not really an issue. I went to Vegas
in June one to I stepped off the plane and
my lips like were on fire. I was like, I
don't care what we do before we get anywhere. We
need to stop at a seven or CBS or something.
I need chapstick because I.

Speaker 1 (15:58):
Was dry heat is completely different. It's like a desert heat.
I walked to the bank one day out there in
June and I was like, oh, I get it. There
is no humidity, but it is hot. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
Right, So that's that's why we left and went to Brooklyn.

Speaker 1 (16:16):
Like this is not it's gonna be. It's gonna but
it's fine.

Speaker 2 (16:20):
The desert hot is hot.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
So just I just you know, the casinos are the
casinos are a c I am playing around the golf
as soon as I get off the plane, though, which
is I'm gonna it's gonna be. It's gonna be just
having a water crisis. That's what I'm saying. Like, no,
no one listened to me. I am the problem. Let
me are the problem. I am.

Speaker 2 (16:40):
But yeah, you know okay, so, uh, do you have
a word?

Speaker 1 (16:47):
Do you have a word? You have a word? You
have a word.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
Okay, I've got a word. So sit back, grab some thanks.
It's occupation time. You're listening to the best show, the
only show.

Speaker 3 (17:02):
Way Radio and beyond Sweet it works, all right, Welcome

(17:44):
back to Chip Jack here on Beltwegh Radio and Beyond.
I'm eros Chip with me is dead, all right, so
it's time to do some headlines quick, actual headline before
we do the headlines.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Turns out the guy who threw the sandwich at the cops.
Uh yeah, us a d J employ Yeah, go fired immediately.
So he is the hero? You ready for it? He's
he's not the hero we asked for, he's the hero
we needed. Oh yeah, that's Gyro for all of you. Yeah,

(18:22):
that's really good. Okay, h And I do like that
that has now become the emblem of resistance. Is like
rowing a pink shirt.

Speaker 1 (18:32):
Yeah, I heard, he got I heard. He's got a
new job coming up for the new season. You know
what he's doing, pitching for the nets? No, no, no
school by the start is gonna be a substitute?

Speaker 2 (18:43):
Ah, I got you sandwich that one in there between
my back?

Speaker 1 (18:54):
Oh, oh that's bad.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
There's gonna be so much more with sandwich man.

Speaker 1 (19:00):
Oh my god? Is that gonna be the resistance people
just throw? Look it's a good symbol, Yeah it is.
It's a good symbol. It's a crazy thing, your hero,
and the law is gonna come at you before.

Speaker 2 (19:12):
That's a p o buddy.

Speaker 1 (19:14):
They're gonna make an example out of that guy too,
which I think they're gonna really, it's gonna be bad.
The sandwich man might be in freaking allega alcatract for
God's sakes, Like I'm very worried about I get it,
but I'm like, I'm so worried about what they're gonna
do to him. But he is also white, so I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (19:31):
He's and he's yeah, he's a he's a bro. He
bro but he was he was. I'm hey, we need that.
Go on, buddy and all the rest of you bro
guys in the pink polos or whatever. If you want. Look,
here's it. Here's just like a pointer. If you want
to be an asshole and mean and shitty and condescended,

(19:56):
if you're doing it in service of the good guy side,
you can basically do as much of that as you
want and not be condemned for it. You can, matter
of fact, be kind of held up for it. So
you know, if the impulse is there, not saying for
personal experience or anything, but like, if the impulse to
call people stupid to their face exists, just do it

(20:17):
in service of the things that are good, and then
you can do it all you want. It's fun.

Speaker 1 (20:22):
Well, for the start of the occupation. We'll remember how
it started.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
We're in the camps. Yeah, telling the stories in the camps.
You were right about there being camps camps.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
Were not sure the climate camps are coming there. Don't
worry everybody, They are around the corner.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
You're gonna be right about that one.

Speaker 1 (20:44):
That one. I'm sure that cake is big. All right.

Speaker 2 (20:49):
You want to do some headlines, Yeah, you can take
the first one. Oh, I can take the first one.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
On Friday, Donald Trump will be meeting with Putin in Alaska.
White House aids said that the kneepads that they brought
for President Trump used to belong to one Jenna Jamison.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
The meeting will take yeah, there you go. Sorry, just
lay off of the ball. The meeting will take place
at the home of at the home of famous Tina
Fey impersonator Sarah Palin. The location was chosen because Putin
said he conceded from his massive global surveillance system.

Speaker 2 (21:22):
That's right. Also in other news, the Consumer Price Index
was released with two point seven percent inflation over last year,
but if you strip away food and gas prices, the
rate is a lot higher. Commerce Secretary Hirard Liutnik responded,
we love taking away food and fuel.

Speaker 1 (21:42):
Of course he did get gone to Texas. Texas Democrats
are still trying to keep Governor Abbott from redistricting their
newest tactic, moving to a three story walk up apartment.

Speaker 2 (21:54):
That's right here in town. National Guard troops began arriving
after Trump declared a prime emergency. They have so far
mostly surrounded sixteen hundred Pennsylvania Avenue, where a convicted felon
was recently seen scowling around on the roof.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
He was out there, he was on the roof. I
thought it was ai when I first saw it. And
I start again and I was like, oh, this is
definitely true. All right. Back in Alaska, a large glacial
outburst flooded an area known as the Suicide Basin, but
a temporary wall was built by the Army Corps of
Engineers saved the capital city of Juno from the rushing floodwaters,

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prompting the response from the Russian Advanced delegation, Oops, we
miss Jesus man O, God, tomorrow is gonna be crazy.
It's gonna be a show to be a show man, Okay.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
The White House is editing displays at the Smithsonian in
their bid to remove what they call quote divisive material.
So get in line to see the new exhibit why
a above ground railroad would have made more sense.

Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah, we're gonna keep on you. Other changes to the
SMITHSONI and hit the zoo where the cuttlefish were told
to only cuttle fish of a different gender and the
black panthers were all oh friend. Earlier this week, the

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website for the National Archives in key sections of the
US Constitution, including the fourteenth Amendment, whichever one is about
question quarantine soldiers. Police are still looking for the for
the digital Nicholas Cage, but so far have just turned
up a few John Travault to look alike Christ. To

(23:54):
kill the panthers is insane, that's funny.

Speaker 2 (24:01):
To be clear, we don't actually have black panthers national Zoo,
but whoever wrote this thought that was much funnier Jesus Christ.
The Trump administration answered questions about the missing sections of
the Constitution of the document by holding a press conference.
A reporter identified as Clippy asked, I see you're trying

(24:24):
to commit treason.

Speaker 1 (24:25):
Would you like help formatting that? Being rocked it together?

Speaker 4 (24:32):
Yo?

Speaker 1 (24:33):
Could you imagine that marriage isn't allowed? Shortly, according to
police in La mass the's made off of seven thousand
dollars worth of the Boo Boo dolls and a heights,
being described as the dumbest heist of all time, displacing
the previous dumbest heist of all time, in which criminals

(24:55):
hit thousands of valuable secret documents in a bathroom. No,
no tell whose neck. But authorities are warning people to
lock up their beanie babies. That's right.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
Those are the headlines. They make you feel better.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
Tests, I'm sorry, I wasn't ready.

Speaker 2 (25:21):
Well breakfast, you know.

Speaker 1 (25:23):
Yeah, you can't have that, you can't have that. No.
The problem was when they started, uh trying to link
with the snow leopards. That's where it all goes to ship. Yeah,
class struggle.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yeah, wait, you don't want you don't want any of
those uh biracial panthers. No, it's it's a little too
there's not a box for them to check. What kind
of a panther are you? I don't know. I kind
of feel like my snow leopard side and my black
panther side, you know, mester around, come out looking like

(25:58):
a jaguar.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
Oh god, three spots clause, oh three spots.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
No, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
No, okay, alright, alright, we.

Speaker 2 (26:28):
Take a break. I think we're gonna take a break.
We'll come back with the rundown. I hope Brian doesn't
do something to us. And I know, oh my god,
all right, you know listening to a Chip chown about my
radio and beyond Sweep's black panther.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
Nuka pencil, nunka pencery, Lady Laspca calls.

Speaker 2 (27:26):
Me second d.

Speaker 6 (27:32):
Co pen say canosly pondos conca sloweetow Never the s.

Speaker 2 (27:48):
In my head.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
Never saw.

Speaker 4 (27:56):
I turned my back on my own can when I
thought the im si.

Speaker 6 (28:04):
No, the leopards, that was.

Speaker 1 (28:32):
Great coming to the sun.

Speaker 6 (28:36):
I'm a little I'm a little nervous.

Speaker 5 (28:41):
All right, love here on, don't we radio? And beyond
I heroes Chip with me is test leopards.

Speaker 1 (28:49):
That was Look, how do we get to that that?
It doesn't get any better? I don't know Brian, how
fast you're working what you just have on deck, but
you know, you know you energy, that's kind of that's crazy.
I was like, oh wow, I.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Think that's called Brian read the script and and like
thus prepared.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
Well you didn't we couldn't prepare for panthers and snow
leopards mating, and that.

Speaker 2 (29:16):
He knows us so well that he read the joke.
And then it was like, I know where these two
idiots are going. That is actually super plausible, that is
very possible. Oh my god, I found these two, which
is terrible. It was out here promoting it. But no,
no dragon sound dragon stout. Yeah, yeah, real Jamaican. Okay,

(29:38):
it's been so long. Good for you celebrating. See you're
importing things with high carbon footprints. It's in glass. No less,
I'm there again. The problem you are. You're doing great.
I want to talk about a problem that's now. I've
come to the party show called the Rundown. This is

(29:58):
where I type out some stuff.

Speaker 1 (29:59):
That's going out in the news.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
If we were professionals, it would sound a little something
like this. All right, that's that's radio in Washington, d C.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
I'm Emmy nominated TV news man and just bona fide
sexual beast Jay Scott Smith. And this is the part
of the show where I tell some stuff about the world.
Maybe not me, but somebody else is gonna tell some
stuff about what's happening in the news.

Speaker 1 (30:27):
So, uh, what's going on in the news fellas.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
Thanks Jake, special shout out today because I at my
actual job had this incredible thing that's gonna happen. We
have a like an interview uh tomorrow. Yeah, and the
person is a spartan I know from their resume like day,

(30:50):
so I'm going to make sure to be wearing I
have a jacket that's a blue you know, I have
to wear a jacket and looks like a grown up,
which I hate.

Speaker 1 (30:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:59):
It's a blue jacket, but on the inside it's it's
the liner is all the Michigan stuff on the inside.
And I wear this a lot of I think it's
not shocking to anybody, but I'm gonna be sure to
be wearing it tomorrow morning so that when I can
shake hands and be like, oh, it's so nice to
meet you.

Speaker 1 (31:17):
But you know, you don't miss an opportunity.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
I don't, but I want a medal. Here's why.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
When I was, yeah, we need to start having a
metal count of how many metals like Michael exactly show too.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
I read through the resumes and I looked and I said,
I think this one is the best, despite this obvious flaw.
So I look at you if I had my brothers,
I'm gonna pick that person. And I'm and I'm doing it,
you know, because I was able to be objective despite
this thing. So I see, I'm growing.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
That is growth, Yeah, is growth? Okay.

Speaker 2 (32:03):
So growth is the thing that happens if you eat
healthy and you know, exercise and do all the things
that you know make you be a good, healthy, growing person.
And one of the places that we get recommendations for
all of that is a place called the Centers for
Disease Control and Prevention. What you mean, Atlanta, Georgia is
a thing.

Speaker 1 (32:22):
It was just so you.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Know, created and placed there in the South at a
time when like, you know how people are like, oh, well,
they'll just move things to low age countries and stuff. Well,
low age countries used to mean the South in the
United States because the economically depressed area. And one of
the things that kept happening to people who lived in
the Deep South was they kept getting worms of all things.

(32:47):
And it turns out they were getting worms because they
would all go to like poop in a you know,
shady spot under a tree, and then they'd all walk
through the shady spot under the tree in their bare
feet and get worms, and the scientists that were studying
that eventually and figured out how to prevent it by
telling people to dig out houses. Shocking. Nobody said the

(33:10):
South was smart, and so then those scientists eventually that
mission that was started there during the depression became what
is now the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which
is why it's in Atlanta. Okay, but that's not what
we want to talk about. There was a shooting there.

(33:31):
Police in Atlanta said that this thirty year old guy,
who believed that the COVID vaccine had made him ill,
went and shot up the buildings where the CDC is
and he unloaded five hundred rounds of ammo.

Speaker 1 (33:48):
So much ammo five that's such a lot of am.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
That's so much like that is melt the barrel of
your gun. Amount like. So, they said they found a
rifle and then some several handguns. I think five guns
in total. But okay, that's one hundred rounds per gun.
Let's say the majority of them went through the rifle.
But you know, and they're not saying, but we all
know what it is. It's an Air fifteen And okay, that.

Speaker 1 (34:17):
Is a lot.

Speaker 2 (34:18):
That is a lot, a lot, and even if you've
got like burst or something, you can't fire that much
that quickly. So like this dude was shooting at these
buildings for a while, right, but they shot himself and
he killed a cop in the process of it, who
is a father of two and about to be three kids,

(34:40):
So you know that was awesome. The father of the
gunman is the one who had a bunch of guns,
but he had him locked up in a safe, so
he was doing the thing that was sort of responsible.

Speaker 1 (34:51):
Ultimately asked, it's almost the place was trying to start
with this with the guns in America. This is safe.
That's where I want to start.

Speaker 2 (34:57):
The gunman pried it apart and like broke into the
safe to get him out, So.

Speaker 1 (35:02):
Like, I mean, yeah, all right, what do you want me?
You had him at that point, All right, maybe you
could get a different state, but I don't. I'm not
throwing hands up to someone and be like, oh do
more Like a safe is a good Yeah, maybe he
has to be a better safe because of the SATs.
I know, crying him out isn't brilliant option, probably.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
Not, but depends on the safe you have. Yeah, yeah,
I mean he made the effort. I would say, yeah,
I'm getting no culpability there. But so this guy like
shot up the place and he did a lot of damage.
Everybody had to go home and work remote, which you
know the Trump people hate and fact. Yeah, And and

(35:41):
RFK who is in charge of this operation, right, he's
in charge of AHHS, which over he was incredibly callous
about the response. He was like, is everybody all right?
And then they were like, no, we're all traumatized. He's like, well,
you know, there's not a lot of science about whether
trauma happens or not.

Speaker 1 (36:01):
You know, maybe the CDC will now take upon and
they can actually I know, Dicky amendment, you can't do
it still or maybe they got repealed, but maybe no,
maybe the CDC is studying gun laws now he can
now study gun they did, but it's not it's not
at the full level though it's a I still feel
like there's like it's a it's contained, it's regulated. But

(36:23):
you know, maybe this is the time, but.

Speaker 2 (36:24):
They could, but you know they won't.

Speaker 1 (36:26):
And and.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
The guy did this because of all the bullshit conspiracy stuff, right,
and he he believed a bunch of things. His parents
took him to the doctor. He was thirty by the way,
and still living with his parents. But like he probably
cause housing prices are out.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
I mean, that's not that's that's not even yeah, that's
that might be okay right now because.

Speaker 2 (36:49):
It's fine, we're not we're not casting aspersions on that.
That's totally like the only way to survive these days.
But the guy, his parents said that they had taken
him to see or he had been evaluated by numerous
doctors who didn't identify any physical problems with him. But
the guy believed that his COVID vaccine had messed them up.

Speaker 1 (37:09):
In someone stronger than any expert, that's right, And.

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Then he reacted to it. And and so like when
we talk about when people talk about the sort of
anti science bullshit conspiracy stuff that that Kennedy and some
of these other people are spouting all the time. You know,
for them, they're untouchably rich. It's consequence free. It doesn't
really ever come home to them that you know, Like

(37:36):
he's railing against all this stuff. He's got his shots, right,
and his kids had their shots, so he's not he's
not taking on any of the risk. But now it
turns out maybe he is because these people are believing
this stuff and they are reacting to it, and we
we've been saying it's only a matter of time. This
is like the first like little little side skirmish, you know,

(37:59):
around this fight. But I can imagine this getting worse.

Speaker 1 (38:05):
But I mean it gets, it gets. This is where
the democracy and everything kind of can start to fall apart.
Is that you have a segment, what a twenty five
thirty percent segment that believes believes these conspiracy theories and whatever.
That's fine, but then like if you look at the
way who's in charge currently and who they fire, do
you have another segment of fifty percent of the population

(38:27):
that stops believing and stuff because they think it's not.

Speaker 2 (38:29):
True, right they don't want it to be true? Yeah,
or they don't want Yeah, inconvenient for that.

Speaker 1 (38:34):
But like the labor numbers, right, like do people eventually
stop and there might be there are other ways that
you can start to get those numbers from the private sector,
but from the government if you're looking and say, oh,
I don't trust that anymore, so you have a trust
coming from like both like both sides a trust issue,
and yeah, this is all built on trust. And I mean,

(38:55):
for me, this is interesting. I mean it also goes
back to the access of guns, right, and obviously there's
them out here, but like, all right, this is the
CDC and COVID nineteen vaccines. But I mean, we didn't
even talk about in the New York uh in New
York and the NFL offices right around, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (39:13):
Well we did.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
You were off that.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
Oh I was off guess but yeah, but the same
things like access like yeah, and people like again people
feel helpless and again, gun gives you power in a
sense you go out and you exhibit your power. And yeah,
we have these same stories over and over again. I
don't know this, but yeah, I mean is.

Speaker 2 (39:33):
Maybe a little different because it is possible that that guy,
because he played football, was all messed up. But I
was saying the access to gun, yeah, but the but
the the remedy that he saw was very similar in
that like, if if the institutions that I would need
to depend on aren't able to deliver for me, I
have nothing to lose and I can only deliver for myself.

Speaker 1 (39:56):
Yeah, that that's the thing for sure. I just I mean, yeah,
and it done does give you power if you do
this in New York, which I know New York some
of the laws changed with the Supreme Court decisions, but
I mean New York is still a very strict place
like of trying to get guns. So but I was, yeah,
the access to it, and people are able to go.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Out and you can get them in Nevada and drive
to New York because that's you know, we we don't
have national laws around that stuff. We don't have a
national system around that stuff. And so the patchwork system
leaves open these obvious holes. And and yeah.

Speaker 1 (40:35):
The regulated militia, that's all. I'm right, that's all I'm
asking for. We're going to be originally.

Speaker 2 (40:40):
Just get to those words. It's one of the yeah
twenty seven words.

Speaker 1 (40:44):
Guys, got it, That's all I want.

Speaker 2 (40:47):
You know, there was was a fucking common you can
have it.

Speaker 1 (40:49):
I'm just obviously I can't I get it. You want
to go shoot your guns, It's cool. I understand. I've
been gun. That's fun. Shoot guns are kind to limit
these other folks from shooting other people. That's what we're
trying to do.

Speaker 2 (41:03):
Not yeah, you're fine, you're good, you're good, you're one
of the good ones.

Speaker 1 (41:09):
Not all right, So.

Speaker 2 (41:16):
We could dwell on the fact that shared reality is
collapsing around us.

Speaker 1 (41:20):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
And I think if you wanted to, you could basically
tie every story that we're talking to about ye to that,
because so many people are saying, like, here, here's this
problem that we have groups of people who don't you know.
And the thing about the numbers of the of the
the bls or any of that kind of thing really
does kind of play into that. People I know, who
I think are smart, who are accomplished people are now

(41:43):
saying things like, well, these numbers used to be accurate,
but they're not anymore.

Speaker 1 (41:47):
That's not true. They're still atement. That is true.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
It's but but even they're not even like self aware
enough to evaluate that statement. How how insane that statement
could possibly sound to an objective observer.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
It just doesn't make any sense.

Speaker 2 (42:06):
And we are you know, as you have so eloquently
put it. This whole thing kind of depends on trust, right,
and part of that trust is on the core information
about which we are going to debate. You can't have
disagreements that you know, you ever do debate in high
school or something like that. They give you both sides,

(42:27):
the pro and con they give you the set of
information r right, That is supposed to be you both
have to work off the same set of information and
then make your case with this same information. You don't
get to bring in extra stuff or makeup things or whatever.

Speaker 1 (42:43):
It has to be like vetted.

Speaker 2 (42:45):
And that's how debate's supposed to work. And now we're
in a place where people are just making up stuff
wholesale and then asserting it as fact and using that
to form their positions. And it leads to crazy shit
like somebody shooting up the CDC. It also leads to
entertaining crazy shit like MTG and Laurel Luomer having a

(43:06):
Twitter fight over who's a slut and who's not or whatever.
Don't go look at that, by the way, please don't
go look at that. But it is the dumbest possible
way to conduct governance, right depends on and that is
that is the problem. Speaking of dumb ways to conduct governance,

(43:28):
let's go to Maryland.

Speaker 1 (43:30):
Free space.

Speaker 2 (43:31):
Uh yeah, the free state.

Speaker 1 (43:34):
Hooray.

Speaker 2 (43:35):
So Maryland's known for a lot of things, right, like crabs,
ol Bay, horse racing, black eyed Susans oriels. Of course,
you know, a lot of good stuff comes from Maryland.
I'm not upset to say that, right, No, not at all.
One of the good things that comes from Maryland apparently

(43:57):
are there judges, because they do judge. But one of
the things that Donald Trump hats is judges. So the
Justice Department has filed a lawsuit against all fifteen federal
district judges in Maryland, which has never happened before, over
limits to the pace of deportation. And so they are

(44:18):
in a trial which is being presided over by a
judge from Virginia because of course they can't preside over
their own stuff. And the judge, let's say, express skepticism
over the DOJ's argument as to what their problem is.
So here's plain and simple. The the courts are tasked

(44:39):
with like sorting out whether things that the government does
are legal or not all the time. That's like a
primary function of the federal district courts in the United States.
They also do some like trial stuff of like big
deal federal cases, you know, murders or whatever things across
state lines. But a lot of what they do is

(45:00):
sort out whether the thing the government is doing to
somebody is legitimate or legal or whatever. Right, So, in
this current situation, specifically, revolving around immigration. The government is
doing stuff really quickly, like rapid fire. They part of

(45:21):
the Trump administration's strategy is what they call to flood
the zone. It's to do so much bad, crazy shit
all at once that the systems can't really handle them.
And the courts are part of those systems. They have
to like adjudicate this stuff. If the government does something
to you and you get into court about it, basically

(45:43):
the rule is everything's got to stop until it gets
processed through exactly, Okay. So, facing this deluge of cases
coming in, the Chief Justice or the chief judge of
the US District Court or the state of Maryland put
a blanket standing order in place that grants a two

(46:05):
day stay on any removal proceedings of anybody who files
a petition claiming wrongful detention. Basically, if you get into court,
it starts a two day clock and two days which
is supposed to give the government's lawyers and the defendants
lawyers a chance to get their shit together to go

(46:26):
make their case in court. This is not like a
crazy thing or unprecedented that a lot of circuit courts,
district courts, and even some of the federal circuits have
standing orders in place for certain types of cases that
basically say, if you get it into court, it stops

(46:49):
everything dead, and it starts like a play clock, right,
Because you know, this country is based around the idea
that everybody gets a fair shake, everybody gets to make
their case in court. The Maryland US District Court in
Maryland put this in place, and then after, you know,

(47:09):
as you would expect, lots of cases got in, had
their two days, and then were immediately ruled on by
the court. Oh yeah, you can deport this person. You've
got legal. This is all late legal, you know, and
off you go, right, and and and the government was
successfully deporting plenty of people out of Maryland. I don't
want to give the impression that this somehow stopped him.

(47:30):
But the Trump people were so irritated by the idea
that they had to actually go to court to prove
their case rather Yeah, that was two days too long
for them. They couldn't tolerate that. So so instead of
appealing this up to the fourth Circuit, which would be
who would hear this case, they were just like, nah,

(47:50):
we're suing everybody at the court. And and and they
so they went to the Fourth Circuit to sue, or
they went to the Maryland District Court to sue, and
they were like you're doing what now? And like the
clerks couldn't even like process the lawsuit. They're like, we
don't know what while you're trying to sue under like

(48:11):
this doesn't make any sense as so okay, well they
got it into court, so you can sue, right, So
the Fourth Circuit sent a judge to deal with it.
His name is I think Cohen. He was assigned to
hear the case by the Richmond based US Court of
Appeals for the Fourth Circuit. And he said that these

(48:34):
things are like a real test the separation of powers
and all kinds of stuff. Here he has this quote,
we get into a situation where the individual judicial defendants
are subject to depositions, their internal correspondence emails would be
subject to discovery, Judge Colin said in the hearing. He
said that to start, quote probing officials at the White

(48:56):
House and all their correspondents and communications, you know, that'd
be like what would have to happen in the discovery
That really raises some thorny issues about you know, attorney
client privilege and you know what has to be disclosed,
what doesn't have to be disclosed, Like this is just
not an avenue that you can really go down.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
The Maryland judges.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Asked the Collen to dismiss the case, and he said
he's going to issue a ruling by Labor Day. So
that's where we are with this. But that's not the
thing that I wanted to talk about. That's just the background, right, Okay,
do you want to read the bolded out bit here
that has this incredible quote?

Speaker 1 (49:36):
All right? Private attorneys representing the Maryland Judges, including Paul D. Clement,
a leading conservative lawyer who served as a solicit general
under President George.

Speaker 2 (49:47):
Pause there for a second. Paul Clement is on the
good guy side in this art.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
That's crazy.

Speaker 2 (49:52):
You realize how fucking far we have come that Paul
Clement is on the good guy The guy who argued
for the Patriot Act, yes, and all of those things,
is the good guy in this continue.

Speaker 1 (50:06):
Paul come o crazy argued in illegal Filings that the
Justice Department could have challenged the automatic pause on deportations
in any of the cases in which it has been applied,
rather than taking the extraordinary step of suing all federal
judges in the States, none of them could hear the
case because they recused themselves to avoid a conflict of interest. Naturally, right,

(50:30):
it makes sense. Quote. The bottom line is that this
suit is without president and reeks unprecedented havoc on the judiciary.
End quote, the judges attorney wrote. They added that quote,
despite being open as a matter of law at all
hours end quote, the federal court is quote not a Denny's. Yes,

(50:55):
that is true, but not a Denny's.

Speaker 2 (50:57):
All comment went into court and argued that federal courts
are not, in fact Denny's.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
You can hang around. You hang around so long that
were using and talking about Paul Clement. That's insane. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (51:12):
I think that's also like one of these things where
it's very inside baseball, like I see that name and
and and it triggers any like you recognize it at all,
then you you obviously read too much news and you
should probably uh, you know, get some friends or something,
but like that, or friends who aren't politics, or it's
maybe that, yeah, yeah, exactly, all white friends are already

(51:34):
into this. Watch yeah, yeah, watch some garbage television and
fill your brain with something else. But yeah, there you go.
Not a Denny's. Have you ever been in a not
a Denny's.

Speaker 1 (51:46):
I have never been in. Have you been in any Denys? Yes?

Speaker 2 (51:52):
Yeah, what you're going to Vegas? There's any.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
Yes, I will not be there.

Speaker 2 (51:59):
But the Grands is like seventeen ninety nine, you know. Okay, Well,
there you go. That's the rundown. You want to take
a break before we get into the topic that.

Speaker 1 (52:12):
We don't want to talk about. Sure, let's take a break.

Speaker 2 (52:16):
All right, We're gonna take a break. You're listening to
Chipchat on Beltway Radio and beyond sweet? Have you heard
the good word?

Speaker 1 (52:31):
Trump's gonna get it done.

Speaker 8 (52:34):
He'll release the Epstein files on day lund. The libs
will cry when those names are exposed. Trump's gonna see.

Speaker 9 (52:45):
That justice is in posed.

Speaker 6 (52:48):
What's that?

Speaker 1 (52:49):
Oh no, he needs a few months. He wants a.

Speaker 6 (52:51):
Case airtight, no thumps days.

Speaker 8 (52:53):
A G. Pambundi says, files on her desk, and that
guy's got binders they cannot test. He's releasing a file
to catch all the petophile never met Epstein or touched
any tea.

Speaker 6 (53:08):
He's draining the swamp.

Speaker 8 (53:10):
With Epstein's name offscreen. We got new info. The file
were in your mind watch. Epstein's jail cam edited for time,
no list of accomplices.

Speaker 6 (53:30):
The guy just died, and all this talk.

Speaker 8 (53:33):
Of conspiracy just people who lie and trumpet He never
spent time with that creep except for.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
The flights and the orgy he peep.

Speaker 6 (53:42):
No surprise, there's no client list to exists.

Speaker 10 (53:44):
Sorry, myga friends, it was all just a myth.

Speaker 8 (53:48):
He's releasing the file to catch all the pedophile. Never
met Epstein or touched any team. He's draining the swamp
with Epstein's name offscreen. The files exist, made by Obama,

(54:15):
Hill and Biden. Let's not talk Epstein no more.

Speaker 6 (54:20):
Or ever again.

Speaker 8 (54:21):
Reminder that Trump and Epstein.

Speaker 10 (54:24):
Were not coals.

Speaker 6 (54:26):
Why do you care so much about it?

Speaker 2 (54:29):
All?

Speaker 8 (54:29):
My boys and girls, From now on, if you say
Epstein out loud, you anti FA scum, disloyal and proud
of the threat to humanity like Rosie o'donald deported to
prison without a.

Speaker 1 (54:40):
Trump and a lift.

Speaker 8 (54:43):
Ever leaks and Trump's name appears one hundred times.

Speaker 6 (54:46):
Over the course of some years.

Speaker 1 (54:47):
Expect to visit.

Speaker 8 (54:48):
From the Army in fed Trump with a sharpie, erasing
what said. He's releasing the.

Speaker 6 (54:55):
File to catch all the.

Speaker 8 (54:57):
Padded Philes, never met PEPs or touch Danny t. He's
draining the swamp with Epstein's say, Monk Screen.

Speaker 6 (55:14):
I really hate that sad loser, mister Newburger who me.

Speaker 2 (55:20):
All right, welcome back to Chip Jad here on do
WAGH Radio and beyond.

Speaker 11 (55:24):
I'm your host Chip with me is tzut Brian. That
was amazing, crazy, that was that was fantastic. I gotta say,
what did you.

Speaker 1 (55:35):
Think, tes, I mean, we got nineteen twenty and they
had a lot of zingers in there though. That was good.
A lot of zingers. I'll give him that one. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (55:45):
Uh So the reason that we played that right and
we're talking about, uh, the Epstein list is because that
is the main focus of what truck is trying to
take your mind off of with invading the district of Columbia.
So while we're about to talk about the occupation of

(56:07):
our city, what we want you to remember is Donald
Trump is on the Epstein List and has has raped
teenage girls. That's what we want to focus on.

Speaker 1 (56:24):
That allegedly you got to throw an allegedly on there.
That is insane to just drop that allegedly. I don't
even know, I.

Speaker 2 (56:33):
Mean, are you got credible evidence and it's.

Speaker 1 (56:37):
Not I'm just saying, you know, chip Chat, the chip
Chat general counselism didn't know you're coming out to say that. Yeah,
well I fire that guy.

Speaker 2 (56:48):
He told me things that I didn't like, of course,
so I just fired him. So okay, So yeah, just
remember that, really this story that we're talking about is
about what's on the Epstein list files tape.

Speaker 1 (57:08):
Guys.

Speaker 2 (57:09):
Okay, So with that in mind, what's going on in
DC and this is a bit fluid, So we just
want to like give the information that we have at
this point when we're going to press now, which is
Thursday night. It is the fourteenth of August, so like

(57:30):
things could be changing. Here's what people need to know.
Some people know this, some people don't know this, so
it's a little bit confusing. One of the things. First
thing you got to know is that the Washington DC,
if you're not from here, you might not know this.
It's a federal district. It's not a state. It doesn't
have a lot of the same rules and laws that
would apply if it was a state. One of the

(57:52):
things about that is that for the most part, the
district itself and everything in it belongs to Congress, very
specifically Congress, not the executive branch. But to Congress, it
is a it is a purview of Congress. Its budget
has to be approved by Congress. The laws that govern

(58:13):
it were created by Congress. Until Home Rule was put
in place, Congress themselves had to personally administer, like you know,
Congressmen from New Hampshire had to somehow be the ones
to like figure out whether.

Speaker 1 (58:28):
Ones are nice as well too, but they were usually
segregationists that come from the South. Okay, but the longest time,
but yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (58:35):
One of the things that Congress people used to complain
about is that they didn't realize that when they got
sent to Washington they would have to do so much
administrative bullshit to administer the federal district. They they they
just did. It's not what they came to do. They
came to represent their constituents, and you know, and it
turns out they got to figure out like parking rates

(58:58):
or whatever.

Speaker 1 (58:58):
You know. So in this.

Speaker 2 (59:00):
Seventies, Congress granted DC home rule with the Home Rule Act.
I think it's nineteen seventy three, and it says a
bunch of things, but it creates an elected mayor City
Council and various other stuff. There have been a few
changes here and there over the years, but none of
that's really relevant. The part of that law that's relevant

(59:21):
to this situation is that in the Home Rule Act,
it says that the President can request the services of
the Metro Police Department MPD for a period of forty
eight hours in an emergency, and then for an extended

(59:41):
period of thirty days if he notifies in writing various
members of Congress, which is like the heads of certain
committees in the House and Senate leadership and over you know,
House oversight, Senate oversight, all that kind of stuff, right,
and no more than thirty days unless cut because remember
Congress owns DC, unless Congress then votes to authorize an

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extended period of time, basically giving the police UH to
the control of the executive branch, which would take a
sixty vote you know threshold in the Senate to achieve.
So like that's pretty unlikely. So when people say this
is a federal takeover of the MPD, that's kind of correct,

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but it isn't exactly correct because not federalizing it, he's
requesting the services.

Speaker 1 (01:00:34):
He doesn't have to federalize it.

Speaker 2 (01:00:36):
He doesn't have to federalize because it's already federally.

Speaker 1 (01:00:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
Right, So that's part. That's one of the one of
the things that people need to know. Another sort of
maybe very technical thing that you need to know about
this is that the command and control structure of the
MPD is still has to remain somewhat still the same.
It still has to go through the chief, which in
this case is Pam Smith, and the precinct captains and

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all of that stuff. It's not like they can just
like implant federal agents like within the police department. But
what they can do is change policy in how the
laws are applied or what the guidelines are for like
you know, thresholds for arrests and things like that. But
they can't change any the laws or any of that
kind of thing. So that's that's one of the technical things.

(01:01:25):
Another very technical thing that people probably don't know because
they're not from here, is that in most places, you know,
you have an elected district attorney or commonwealth's attorney or
you know sort of like top prosecutor in your in
your district or in your county or whatever, and then
the people the prosecutors that work for them you know,

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report to them, but that person is somewhat accountable to
the voters in the the jurisdiction that they administer. That
is not the case in Washington, d C. The prosecutors
from every level, from the top to the bottom, work
for the US Attorney's Office, currently run by, of all people,
Janine fucking Piro very in the press conference, Yes, colorful

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as a word, red wine colored, I think is the
actual word.

Speaker 1 (01:02:16):
But she.

Speaker 2 (01:02:19):
So that all the prosecutors, they're not accountable to any
elected officials in the district of Columbia. They're not selected
by the city council or the mayor. They're not voted
on by any residents of the district. The Attorney General
is now an elected position, but that position doesn't have
anything to do with how things are prosecuted. So if

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you hear people complaining about the way that crime is prosecuted,
or you know, they're lenient on defendants or whatever, those
people are not responsive to the district itself. Like there's
nobody in DC who voted for lenient prossecut that's not
a thing. They don't have the authority to do that.

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Those are all appointed by the US Attorney's Office. And
buy the federal government. So just to be very clear
about that. The third sort of technical thing that you
need to know about this is that the national guard. Right,
states have national guards. The district has a national guard.
In a state, your guard belongs to your governor, right

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and if the Feds want to borrow the guard, or
use the guard, or call out the guard, they have
got permission from the governor, or they have to do
some fairly extraordinary things like federalizing the guard, which is
subject to a bunch of other rules and stuff like that.
In the district they don't have to go through anything
like that. The guard belongs to the president and so
he can use them at his discretion whenever he wants,

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which you know, so he claimed that he couldn't do
it on January sixth, and now he claims that he
can do it, you know, for this fake emergency. You know,
don't try to like work out the inconsists and these
are hypocrisies of this, You're just going to cause your brainings.
But but like that is that those are the things
that you need to know. What is happening in the

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district is that, in addition to the MPB being now
working for the federal government is there's also been a
bunch of federal agents of various other law enforcement agencies
brought to the district to do things. These are people
like DEA, FBI, ICE, CPB, Federal Protective Service, you know,

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and if you're from here, you're kind of used to
seeing all this.

Speaker 1 (01:04:35):
Stuff around anywhere around.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
There's like twenty some odd actual sworn police departments in
the District of Columbia. They all have various things that
they can and can't do. Your police is a big one,
you know, but all the universities have their own police departments.
The zoo has its own police department of all things.
So like there there's a lot of that around. But
like yeah, so all of these other federal uh police

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are are around and they're doing stuff. But and they
can arrest you. The National Guard cannot arrest you. They
are not allowed to engage in law enforcement at all
unless there's a certain circumstances, which would require a lot

(01:05:21):
more to to be to be going on, so it
would require Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
That is, that is the basic kind of background stuff
you need to know about what's going on in the district.
How we got here is also very very important. We
touched on this a little bit last week, but it
hadn't happened yet, so we're gonna reiterate. There's a guy

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who worked for Elon and Trump. His name is Big Balls.
He is, by all measures, a grown man. I mean,
I'm not saying he's like a grown ass man, but he's.
But he's officially an adult many and he has a job,
and he's all of these things. He got his ass
kicked by a fifteen year old girl and and he

(01:06:10):
got pretty well whooked. I mean, that's and I don't
know what this kid looks like, but you know, I'm
sure there's some fifteen year old girls who woop my
ass too, But this is this that's embarrassing, right. You
don't want to get your ass kicked by a fifteen
year old girl. That's that's a bad story to have
to tell. So after you guys, ask kick by fifteen
year old girl and then he you know, called the cops.

(01:06:31):
They arrested her. But now he's got this problem of like, oh, yeah,
I got my ass kick by fifteen year old girl,
and I gotta go to like file police report and
swear to it in court and.

Speaker 1 (01:06:40):
All that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
I'm never gonna get laid now. So he like pitches
a fit. He calls Trump. He's like, I just got
my ass kicked? And Trump goes was it by a
fifteen year old girl? And he goes, no, definitely not.
It was a bunch of criminal thugs. And Trump's like, okay,
well then I'm calling out the National Guard, and Big
Boss is like, few now nobody will know. So now
we have the National Guard roaming around the streets of

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the District of Columbia, specifically because Big Ball's got his
ass kicked by fifteen year old girl. That's the background,
all right, Tez. Now what is this like, you know,
on the ground for folks in DC.

Speaker 1 (01:07:17):
Yeah, I mean, as of last night, they're definitely more.
I mean, whether you're in U Street Corridor, Navy Yard
is obviously a big place, and I think there's a
few areas we probablyhoul to start with. First. I think
one there's more history into this, which is when does
when do Congress and when do citizens of Washington, DC

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get ante about democracy right, and democracy being specifically a
representation right in the Congress, right, and like DC gets
incorporated or whatever. I think it's something eighteen oh two
or something like that. And there was right initially, like
there was an elected city council back then and the
mayor was appointed by the president whatever. But then everything

(01:08:06):
changes in eighteen seventy one. What happened around that Around
that time, you know, there was a civil war in
DC and.

Speaker 2 (01:08:16):
Do you mean the Northern aggression.

Speaker 1 (01:08:17):
Of Northern aggression. But it's interesting though, because I think
Abraham Lincoln, DC has always been used as a staging
ground for the federal government to try things out. Emancipation
is one of those things, right, that happens here. First, Right,
it is a DC Emancipation Day, which is multiple years early.

(01:08:38):
I want to say it's the eighteen sixty two or sixty.

Speaker 2 (01:08:41):
Yeah, but it's also tax Day.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
It is, yet it's also taxed. It's what makes tax
Day really two days late every year. But again, the
federal government is trying something out here. But initially, like
DC has always been in a weird situation where white
people in d C have been okay with giving away
their democracy when more black people have come here. So

(01:09:05):
I think that history should be should also be added
to that. But yes, home rule happens, right, we have
a city council we get control over the police department. Right,
we have a mayor elected mayor right for right exactly
so that that happens. But I think right now, right
in in DC, there's a few things. One I think

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an objective observer would say, Okay, yes, there are at
times groups of kids, massive groups of kids forty plus
I've seen them uns. Yeah, are moving through the street
and probably scare a lot of people. I don't necessarily
feel frightened by them, but I guess I could see
where people so I want to acknowledge that. I think

(01:09:50):
the crime statistics obviously are what they are. Crime as
a whole has been down across the country, significantly down
in DC. But I also know is a feeling stat
It's not about the real numbers, it's all about feeling.
So yeah, like, I think some of those reports are
people of how they feel about it, and I think
it's more of like, right, homicides are severely down, But

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if people are feeling like people are breaking in and
stealing large anything, that I think, I think almost that
drives the feeling more carjackings. I also get understand the
city has always had an issue with carjackings. Most cities
do it's a it's a it's a crime that really
again it it frightens people, right, it's one of those ones,
like it's one of the ones that scares people from

(01:10:34):
being like outside. And you can't really have that all right,
All of those things we can agree on, but the
approach and when it's happening, Yeah, no, we can't agree
on that. Right. There are things that the federal government
could easily be doing. There's ways that you could fund things. Right,
if you want to stop people from jumping over the
goddamn fars, maybe fund metro what people don't have to

(01:10:55):
pay for it, right, And the federal government has the
ability to do that. If you're interested in these kids,
is there something else that they can do? Right? Can
we invest?

Speaker 2 (01:11:05):
Like there are ways to curb can we expand the
jobs program?

Speaker 1 (01:11:09):
Yeah? Yeah, there are ways to ways to approach this.
And I think the message and or the feeling on
the street is that, yeah, the there's a federal presence
now more than ever, and they're combined with MPD and yeah,
there are checkpoints now that run on Betting Road or
down on U Street, and they're pulling over people with

(01:11:29):
broken tail lights and seeing if they can get more
and h Pam Smith has said that yeah, now we'll cooperate.
I mean, we're not a sanctuary city no more. After
that whatever just happened, they get Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:39):
It's over with, that's done the policy stuff, right, so
the cooperation, Like, yeah, it's important to note the where
they are, what kind of enforcement they're doing, and where
they aren't.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
Yeah, exactly, they're not east of the river from what I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:11:52):
Not east of the river at all. They haven't crossed
over to any of the stuff on that.

Speaker 1 (01:11:57):
S whole agency, Homeland Security is over there.

Speaker 2 (01:12:00):
Yeah, but they're not gonna go there like at all.
There's a guarantee. There was an interesting bit of reporting
on NPR. Frank Langford, who who's a dynamite reporter is
covering this from the national perspective, right, not the not
our local Our local news is covering this very differently,
and he was going he said, he went up on

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U Street and was asking people there, and most of
the people there said, you know, I guess there's crime,
but I don't really feel it. It doesn't feel too
risky to me. You know, I'm out at two three
in the morning. I don't really see anything.

Speaker 1 (01:12:35):
And like it.

Speaker 2 (01:12:36):
I don't care, And I can personally tell you that
like that area, it doesn't feel risky at all.

Speaker 1 (01:12:44):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:12:44):
The only the only things that I've ever confronted around
there is like drunk people being stupid. But it isn't
like a criminal element by any stretch of the imagination.
And then he went to Congress Heights and and talk
to some folks there and they were like, oh, yeah,
crime is a real thing. We got to deal with it.

(01:13:05):
But we were not saying we wouldn't welcome more police presidents,
but we need like maybe if the federal government wanted
to help, they could hire more cops and like get
people here on a permanent basis to kind of help
keep things under control. And then he asked them two
very important questions. Have you seen anybody you know this

(01:13:29):
federal presence DEA or FBI? And they all said no.
And then he said do you expect to see anybody
over here? And they all said no. This is all
a performance thing because where they really are They were
down in Georgetown doing seatbelt checks on them.

Speaker 1 (01:13:45):
National mall like what are we doing?

Speaker 2 (01:13:47):
Like, yeah, what crime is going on down there?

Speaker 1 (01:13:50):
The posted this story, what a year and a half
ago two years ago of like where the concentration of
crime is at, right, A majority of crime that happens
in DC is concentrated across like fifteen blocks. Yeah, yeah, it's.

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
It's done by like there's the math on this is
crazy that especially amongst violent crime, that like they can
use math to pluck this down to like there's five
or six individual people or the nexus of a lot
of this stuff, and if you could just get them
to cool it, you could really make a huge dent

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in a lot of this kind of thing.

Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
And I think the piece here is like the unhoused individuals, right,
I thought that kind I watched that news conference, right
mostly isire to turn it off and when they go
into questions, because there's the questions they were going through
are like from freaking like right wing people who have
obviously been allowed into the prescott. Like the first few
I was like, oh, I'm not here for that, but yeah, no,
I think he's you know, to clear out, like and

(01:14:45):
let's be honest, the city government was already on some
clear out. Like I can't sit here and just make
it like, oh this is become a Trump thing right now?
But no, but this when you put the strong arm
of the federal government behind anything, these things happen a
lot quicker. When the federal government wants to do something,
it happens. Yeah, and I think you saw. I think

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this evening, I was reading that a lot of the shelters,
like they're going around and warning people because the raids
are going to start happening in the next few days. Yea,
they are happy having Yeah, so.

Speaker 2 (01:15:20):
The DC government found they basically created sixty more beds
out of thin air. But they've got about eight hundred
people that they've got to find a place for. And
you know, Trump was very calvous about it. It's like
they gotta go. I don't care where they go, but
they can't be here, and.

Speaker 1 (01:15:34):
And you know those details about where they're supposed to go,
like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:15:39):
And he's like, we'll take care of them, okay, Yeah,
same way Giuliani took care of the homeless in New York, right,
dump them in the East River, Like this is terrifying
for the for these people who are are there. And
you know, the way that the regime frames this is
like that these people this is a choice. This is

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an active lifestyle choice that they want to be living
in tents on the street.

Speaker 1 (01:16:05):
And these people work two jobs, some of them work.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Two jobs, and some of them can't afford anyplace else
to live. And you know, oh well, or they're experiencing addiction,
or they've got mental health crises going on, or like whatever.
You know, we saw them clear out several of the
squares downtown, you know, Franklin Square, uh was was one
of them where they rentoed the whole area, you know,
and and that was you know, we saw them do

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it in Lafayette, We saw them do it in McPherson.

Speaker 1 (01:16:32):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:16:33):
It's I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:16:36):
It's just like.

Speaker 2 (01:16:38):
There's a there's a moral thing here, and I don't
expect the Trump people to ever like do the moral thing.
But there's also like an economic and logistical problem here
of if you're gonna invest, you're investing a lot of
money to move a very small number of people into
the most expensive type of housing you can imagine, which

(01:17:00):
is jail. So like, I don't I don't see how
you balance the check book on this one, to be honest.

Speaker 1 (01:17:07):
Well, it's not about that you run deficits, and you know,
people spend and spending that's okay because it's under a
Republican administration. I mean, yeah, this is this is frustrating,
and it eventually it will go from frustrating to frightening
because we'll see some of the responses that end up happening.
And yeah, you gotta kind of be out in the

(01:17:27):
streets for this one here. You gotta kind of Yeah,
you gotta make your voice like there's no.

Speaker 2 (01:17:32):
It's sandwiches at the cops.

Speaker 1 (01:17:35):
Yeah, don't do that. I wouldn't do that. Don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:17:38):
You can yell at him. Yeah, if you want to
stand there and film them, yell at him, you know,
hold up signs, call them pigs like that's cool. Definitely
support that, you know, Uh, make your make your voice heard.
Make sure you know your rights. Make sure that you
have a lawyer. Make sure that you know how to

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say the following phrases. I'm refusing to speak to you
and I want to talk to my lawyer.

Speaker 4 (01:18:06):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:18:06):
And and that's am I Am I free to leave?
That's another one. Make sure you know to say that
am I free to leave? And if they say yes,
then leave. Don't don't stand there and give them a
reason to make you not free.

Speaker 1 (01:18:16):
To leave. Yeah. I remember a colleague of mine, he
was not from here obviously, he said, yeah, he was
just asking, like, once Trump got elected, he's liked, well,
what worries the most? I said, well, you know, I
live in the Federal City. And I said, you know,
at any time, whatever they want to try out around
the country. Nixon is famous for this month, you got

(01:18:37):
to do it here first. They do it here. It
starts here first. They try all these things out here.
This is a sandbox for for any federal policy. Yeah,
and what I what I hope is that, well, we're
kind of helpless. And I know I've seen some of
the senators of the congressmen they want to introduce legislation

(01:18:58):
to the change this. I don't really see how that.
I guess it gets signed, right, I don't know what
I mean. It's cool, it's a nice I guess it's
a nice gesture, but it has to get signed. And
I don't know the veto comes through where you're making
veto proof Obama. But yeah, we'll we'll have to suffer
under this. But I do hope where possible the other states,

(01:19:24):
because they talk about Chicago and Oakland has been mentioned
and Baltimore, Baltimore, wherever there's a black mayor, Mayor.

Speaker 2 (01:19:33):
That's a very important point though.

Speaker 1 (01:19:34):
Yeah, wherever it's a black mayor. And Mirabouzer she's you know,
she's she's very skilled as skilled politicians. She she she
wouldn't comment on the racial aspect, but she highlighted that
and she said, yeah, this is this is what's happening.
This is these are this is who he is targeting.
But we don't really have any Uh, there's no jurisdiction

(01:19:55):
for us to make changes to this at this point.
There's a very little we can do. What I do
hope is it anybody else is around the country is
outraged by this? A A push for statehood for DC
can happen if the rest of the states and the
rest of the Union, enough of them. Actually, if that
became a mission for your senator in your Congress, people,

(01:20:18):
that that is another way we could go about this.
Because yeah, outside of that, I mean, yeah, we sit
here and we have to suffer, and we'll see. And
I think for the kids, what I'm very worried about
is I don't see any of the kids aren't scared.
They're not And I think that's.

Speaker 2 (01:20:36):
Told to like the cops and you know, the armies,
cool and all that stuff, But like.

Speaker 1 (01:20:41):
They're not afraid. I think if I look at the DCU,
I mean, there's a fear inside of them, but it's
a different type of fear. But I don't they're not
They're not afraid of of authority. I've seen enough. I've
heard enough of it, and I think that's a recipe
for disaster that we we will eventually see here again,

(01:21:02):
because yeah, the kids aren't. The kids aren't. I think
they're more afraid. I think they're more afraid of each other.
And it almost like, at least when I observe, it's
like a big bluffing game because people are afraid of
like again like between between like whatever, like the beefs
on Instagram or fucking TikTok or whatever shit like that.
But when it comes to like the actual the police

(01:21:23):
and the authority figures, I don't think these kids are
afraid at all. And I think this heavy handed approach
will backfire one of the worst ways.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
So yeah, I worry about that a lot too. That
the hopelessness, right, uh, is in some ways a little liberating, right,
if you got nothing to lose your figure. Things are
you know, you're one of the things that I think
people who don't know what poverty looks like often overlook,

(01:21:55):
you know, is they really they can't conceptualize the idea
of somebody having no plan for the future. And especially
like in white suburbia, they're they're always like, you know,
surprised when especially young black men are really excited to

(01:22:17):
turn twenty one or to turn twenty five, and they
and they're like, why is this a big deal? And
it's because it doesn't occur to white suburbia that a
lot of people don't make it to twenty five. Yeah, right,
And and so like so many people, especially when when
we were younger growing up in the in the eighties

(01:22:37):
and nineties, like a lot of people my age basically
assumed they never were going to reach this age because
it just they didn't know anybody who did and it
just didn't.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Like so that that kind of hope that's real crime,
and that's real crime. That's real crime. Yeah, Like that's
like when you want to talk about like actual, actual
uh crime that's happening, that is a different type of
like and I know you can't equate it because again

(01:23:11):
it's a feeling thing. But when you want like raw statistics,
if anyone wants to compare things, have by all means,
go back in the way back machine and look at
crime statistics that run through like eighty eight to ninety two.

Speaker 2 (01:23:24):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, and Edman is dead now, so we
can talk about that time. But like that is that
is a time it was that was real crime, and
what we have now that's scary. Like that was scary.
I remember that time. But now this is a joke,
you know, like if you live through that and people
are like, oh yeah, crime in DC is really bad, like.

Speaker 1 (01:23:45):
You're like me, ome on, like this is a walk
in the park, freaking like legit getting home before the
street lights come on, because yeah, it's like if.

Speaker 2 (01:23:54):
The thing you're worried about is that people are are
out here, uh you know, like still stuff from luxury stores, buddy,
we didn't have luxury stores back in the nineties. Like
nobody would dare open a Louis Vautan store there exactly. Yeah,
So let's talk about Mayor Bouser here for a second though,

(01:24:15):
because you know, you touched on it. We touched on
it a little bit briefly here you know, I think
it's been clear over the years that this show and
a lot of the people I know, we all have
like a lot of feelings about her, and it's not
always very positive. But the two things, the two kinds
of criticism and she often receives, is one that she's

(01:24:37):
a very political meaning like small political politician, where you know,
she's willing to play both sides. She's kind of wishy washy,
uh blows in the wind whatever. That's one thing. The
other thing that people are critical of her is that
she's very careful, that she's she's slow to move sometimes.

(01:24:57):
And in this case, those two things are probably the
two best attributes to have in a chief executive in
a city where she's losing some of her control. The
police department doesn't belong to her right now, she's bound
by these laws that she's got to give them up,
you know, to the Feds. And there's also like, you know,

(01:25:19):
the Feds can change some of the policies and stuff,
and she has to play ball. So when it comes
to this immigration stuff, you know, can you use MPD
to do immigration? No, but can you force them to
give up the whereabouts of people who might have you
know who are in the system having been arrested. Yes,

(01:25:40):
you can do that if you're controlling the thing. And
now that the BONDI and whatever the DEA guy are
in control, they are doing that and so like. But
Mayor Bowser has done a really good job of riding
the wave. That's what we were talking about before it
there's a time to fight, there's a time to push,

(01:26:00):
you know. Is she painted black lives matter? She painted
over Black lives matter, and she, like people from outside
DC don't understand how critical Home rule is to the
people here and how precarious it always feels. But it
has felt more precarious lately than it ever has. And

(01:26:23):
so the big thing for her to do is to preserve.

Speaker 1 (01:26:25):
That at all costs.

Speaker 2 (01:26:26):
If that means letting the Feds run rough shot over
a few things here and there, if it preserves home rule,
is it worth it. Probably? And that's the calculation that
she's making. And I hope everybody's really understanding and thinking
about that, yeah, or they jump her throat about a.

Speaker 1 (01:26:41):
Lot of it. I think the other thing though, that
is there's there's a legacy defining project that's going to
happen at RFK and that happened, that's going and I
think that one there, we can't overlook that. And I
do find her, I do find her to be on
the national stage a depth that actually executing and the

(01:27:02):
I might not agree with it, but again, I'm not
the mayor of d C either. I also I'm not
that and I can only imagine the tightrope that has
to be walked specifically because of the way the laws work.
And we're always like an Act of Congress away from

(01:27:22):
going back to a three person commission, right, and like
it's always it's never far away.

Speaker 2 (01:27:28):
And I think the city manager ship, I remember.

Speaker 1 (01:27:31):
That the manager was, I mean and it is with that, right,
at least with that you could even pinpoint to whatever
the fiscal the fiscal like I mean irresponsibility that was
happening at the time, if we're looking at the notes, right,
at least that But this feels different. This is like one,
it feels manufactured. It is manufactured, very manufatufactured. There are

(01:27:56):
there is the data is not strong behind it. The
data goes exact the opposite of it doesn't seem to
be needed. And like there's different ways that the federal
government could play a role in Washington, DC that is
not this. And I don't think the federal government and
whatever agencies that are in the in the District of
Columbia currently are able to do the job of the police.

(01:28:18):
I don't think they're trained to do that. Hell, I
don't think the police are trained that well to do it.
But hey, at least I know I would if I
got to pick it, if I got to pick some Yeah,
I think there's probably better outcomes happening with MPD than
there is with UH.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
I saw a video of of a federal agent of
I don't remember which agency he was, but he approached
a few guys who were like sitting on the porch
like hanging out, and he was like, what are you smoking?
And the guy's like a cigarette and basically the cops there,

(01:28:56):
you know, they were clearly from out of town.

Speaker 4 (01:28:59):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (01:28:59):
They they were sort of like asking these these young guys,
like what are you doing out here? You know, and
they're they're like, we're sitting on our porch.

Speaker 1 (01:29:09):
You know.

Speaker 2 (01:29:09):
One guy was you could see in the video, was
like scrolling through his phone like texting, you know. It
was they were very nonchalant but also doing nothing but
they knew they're rights, right, And this cop he's like, oh, well,
what i'm doing here is what I'm reminding everybody about
the rules about marijuana, and you know, you can't be

(01:29:29):
smoking it in public.

Speaker 1 (01:29:31):
And it's like, well, the law is a is a citation.

Speaker 2 (01:29:36):
Not only that, that's not the law, right you can't.
So like, if these guys were on their porch smoking
you can see them from the street, that's not a
thing that you can get busted for because you're on
your own property. You're not on public property. Now, if
you're on the sidewalk, that's a different story. But if

(01:29:58):
you're on your own porch and you know, there's a
question about okay, well is it visible from the public
space or whatever. But the reason that's never prosecuted or
never cited even is because it's basically like, it's not
an enforceable thing if you're on your own It says,
the law is very clear you can smoke on private property, period,
end of discussion. Whether that's visible from anywhere else is

(01:30:21):
not part of the law. But this guy didn't know that,
you know, and he was out here, should well, right
because he's not from here and he's not going to
know the rules. So but here he was like this
is pre textual obviously, and what he was doing was was,
you know, acting. His cover story was that he's out
here educating these guys on the law. And they were like,
that's not the.

Speaker 1 (01:30:41):
Law guy, you know.

Speaker 2 (01:30:44):
Yeah, And so like that's a real risk too, because
you got somebody might be some federal marshal guy you know,
from Wisconsin or whatever, doesn't know what the rules are,
reacts arrest somebody for something that's totally legal, and now
you've got a real problem on your and like, hey,
you know, brought in these guys and they don't know
what the rules are and they're doing all this crazy shit,
Like you got you got some problems with with this. Also,

(01:31:11):
you know, there's a lot of crime in red states.
I don't see any federal presence going on over there.
And as matter of fact, the majority of crime of
like places where the murder rates are the highest are
in red states, not in blue states. So I don't understand,
you know, well, I do understand this is racist on

(01:31:31):
his face. I mean, let's be very clear about that too.
That there's this is a black city with the black
mayor and and black City council, mostly black city council.

Speaker 1 (01:31:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:31:41):
Uh, and that's the thing that bothers them. That's the
kind of home rule they don't like. So I don't
and treyon Jesus Christ, dude, you get back on the
council and like two seconds later you're like carrying Trump's
water and talking about, yeah, we should get more National
Guard out here and crack some skulls and shit, like, guy,
you're what is I don't he's going down the canon

(01:32:01):
zones or I don't know.

Speaker 1 (01:32:03):
Go hold on, let me give you these. Let me
give you a few stats. Right here. We'll go from
We'll go from nineteen eighty seven and make our way
to nineteen ninety. We'll make it to ninety six, all right,
nineteen eighty seventies are homicides by a year? Right? Eighty seven,
two hundred and twenty five, eighty eight, three hundred and
sixty nine, eighty nine, four hundred thirty four, nineteen ninety four,

(01:32:26):
seventy two, nineteen ninety one, for eighty two, nineteen ninety two,
four forty three, nineteen ninety three, four point fifty four,
nineteen ninety four, three ninety nine, nineteen ninety five, three sixty,
nineteen ninety six, three ninety seven, it tapers off, right,
we go down from three ninety seven to like three

(01:32:47):
h one, down into the two hundreds all the way
through ninety seven.

Speaker 2 (01:32:51):
While the population is growing, she's.

Speaker 1 (01:32:54):
Growing even in two thousand and four down to one
ninety eight. Like it's decreasing for the most part, even
if you want to take the COVID years right, twenty
twenty one, two twenty six, twenty twenty two, two o three,
twenty twenty three, two seventy four. Again, I mean we're
talking double and then. And this is just a homepide, right,

(01:33:14):
But like there was a time when the plason felt
completely different, like like where I could be like, oh, yeah,
it's not safe there. It's just it's not safe and
that's not now, and that's not now. Is there is
there room for improvement? Can things change? Yes? But to
say the city is not safe to touted against frigging

(01:33:38):
uh other countries in the world that are Yeah, those
numbers were bogus.

Speaker 2 (01:33:43):
I mean putting soldiers on Constitution Avenue doesn't seem more like, yeah,
that's hilarious. But like I don't know how m raps
running down the mall have anything to do with curbing
any kind of crime. I mean, the biggest crime that

(01:34:04):
happens on the mall is the price of the hot
dogs at the cart's. Like, there's no there's there's no
crime going on down there. And and you know, going
after unhoused people again, are the unhoused people committing the carjackings?
Was that who beat up big Balls? I don't think so.

Speaker 1 (01:34:21):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:34:22):
So it's just you know, it's about control and it's
a test balloon. This is this is Trump trying to
see what he can get away with and can can
he sort of get people to be numb to the
idea of a military occupation of the capital city. Where
have we seen that?

Speaker 1 (01:34:40):
Though?

Speaker 2 (01:34:41):
Like, is that not exactly what Mussolini did? Is that
not exactly what Franco did? Is this not exactly what
Hitler did? Is this not exactly what Pinochet did? This
is this is the very standard Channeman Square playbook of
the authoritarian is to bring the military into your capital city,
declare some sort of emergency, false or otherwise, and then

(01:35:04):
react to it even if it's not happening. That that
should be scaring people. That's why I was talking about
getting radios.

Speaker 1 (01:35:12):
I mean, yeah, no, I mean I'll talk about it
in my forthcoming book, Fast Fascism, Brought to you by
H and M.

Speaker 2 (01:35:23):
There you go, Fast Fashion.

Speaker 1 (01:35:26):
That's hilarious.

Speaker 2 (01:35:29):
Okay, So we've I think we've covered that, I would imagine.

Speaker 1 (01:35:34):
I mean, there'll be more. There'll be more.

Speaker 2 (01:35:35):
There'll be more, and I think we're gonna come back
to this probably week after week with some updates. But
I hope if you are listening to this from outside,
or even if you are local and you don't really
know all the details, I hope this was somewhat helpful.
We are not sure what's happening yet, and we are
not sure where this is going either. To be very clear, like,
we are processing this for you in real time as

(01:35:57):
best as we can. If you are using us as
a way to process this kind of horrific situation or
as a source of information and news, don't do that.
Go get a newspaper please, you know, read fifty First
or Martin Oster meals Twitter or somebody like that who
knows much more than we do. We're we're just two

(01:36:19):
guys with microphones, and you know that's that's just how
that works. But but if you are listening and we're
a good starting point, please, by all means just continue
to go and learn about this because we don't really know, right, Okay,
you want to take a break, Yeah, sure, all right,
let's take a quick break. Then we'll come back with
the third half of the show, which should be relatively

(01:36:40):
short considering all the things that are going on. We're
not talking about any of the big heavy stuff, so
you know it'll be fine. We're gonna have fun.

Speaker 1 (01:36:47):
This is a fun show.

Speaker 2 (01:36:49):
Yeah, it's a fun show. It's gonna be Testa's favorite
stuff econ nerd shit. Yes, yes, it's gonna get all excited.
All right, we're gonna take a break. We'll be right
back with Marketplace. You're listening to chip Jack, don't with
radio and Yon Sweep.

Speaker 10 (01:37:09):
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they turned the freaking frogs case.

Speaker 1 (01:37:13):
Do you understand that.

Speaker 10 (01:37:15):
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Speaker 1 (01:37:18):
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say real slow for you case frogs for your life. Okap,

(01:37:42):
frigging sob. I don't like a frog caseing frogs frogs
frigging sob crap.

Speaker 2 (01:37:57):
Won't you break a frog?

Speaker 1 (01:38:01):
I'm gonna say real slow for you.

Speaker 10 (01:38:08):
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shit fucking popsums. That second, then all of it's lost
because you're lying.

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Tru said he was the messiah, you said he was invincible.
I will not summer your cure people after this. I
know what you weren't they going? I know what you
are doing.

Speaker 10 (01:38:32):
Witches in warlock full of shit puking popsums.

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That's second. Then all of it's loss because you're lying.

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and come prove you said it was all over you
tell us to stop, huge God God, witches in warlocks.
You're full of shit pumpkin popsums. That's all of its

(01:39:03):
loss because you're lying. That's what which is in warlock.
It's because you're lying.

Speaker 1 (01:39:18):
Is every good thing?

Speaker 2 (01:39:20):
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(01:39:50):
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Speaker 2 (01:40:06):
Like Alex Jones, man, he's coming up in the show.
We're going to talk about that. But the gay Frogs
such a classic froll frogs.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
Whack. That's my favorite part of that whole song is
the whack whack, whack whack.

Speaker 2 (01:40:24):
So yeah, all right, let's talk about funny business here,
which is we're going to talk about economics, which is
everybody's favorite digital science. So the CPI, right, that's the
Consumer Price Index. We get these numbers, right, there's the PPI.
Uh just came out I think this week. And you

(01:40:47):
know what we're talking about is like tracking how the
economy is doing. And the consumer Price Index is when
people say inflation, that's what they're talking about. They're talking
about the CPI. They're there are various different versions of
this of the CPI. There's the CPI, there's the core CPI,
and there's the chained CPI. These are all slightly different.

(01:41:08):
But the thing that people mostly pay attention to in
terms of the FED and all of that is if
the CPI, the consumer Price index is rising, they say,
inflation is rising, and therefore we need to pull money
out of the system, which means to raise interest rates,
to slow things down and take money out of the system,

(01:41:31):
make it less less easy to borrow. And if you
see inflation is going the other direction, right, then it's
time to inject money into the economy because what you
what you're you need You need smaller denominations to be
able to spend the money, is what that means. And
so you would need to to make money easier to

(01:41:53):
get and lower the rates. People borrow more, they invest more,
they grow more.

Speaker 1 (01:41:57):
You know. That's all that stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:41:59):
Okay, So so the CPI did come out and it's
flat from last month two point seven percent, But that
is not the thing that I want to talk about.
I don't think that's the thing anybody is talking about.
It's in that represents food and fuel prices and food

(01:42:19):
We made a joke about this earlier, but food and
fuel are often not good to include in the CPI
because they're so they fluctuate like the most right, So
you could have a time where core inflation is good,
real flat, but like gas prices spike for some reason.

Speaker 1 (01:42:39):
A war, a war, some tanker taken over.

Speaker 2 (01:42:45):
Or hurricane in the Gulf. All these kinds of things
can happen. Of pipeline getting hacked, like, those things can happen.

Speaker 12 (01:42:53):
And when they do, right, fuel prices might spike, and
so you might see the CPI would go like way up,
but that's not really representative of the actual price of
everything else, so you might want to take that out.

Speaker 2 (01:43:05):
And the same thing happens with food, right there could
be a big spike. There could be like a bird
flu epidemic that causes eggs to go way up, or
or you know, some sort of flood that causes corn
prices to go crazy or whatever. So the core inflation
is when you take away food and fuel from what
you're measuring, and that number is up. It went from

(01:43:28):
two point nine to three point one. That's a two
tenths of a percent increase. If you're not an econ nerd,
that probably seems like, ah, who would care. But that's something.
It's not nothing, it's not a lot, but it's something.
And you know, we had been expecting to see this earlier.

(01:43:52):
That the core inflation is going up and that food
and fuel are actually keeping the CPI down is pretty remarkable.

Speaker 1 (01:44:03):
It's usually the.

Speaker 2 (01:44:04):
Other way around. So that tells you that the cost
of everything else that you might buy and including services,
are rising. And a lot of that has to do
with the tariffs, and a lot of that has to
do if it's not directly because it's tariff, it's because
of the uncertainty that the tariffs are causing, and it's

(01:44:25):
causing weird economic behavior. Businesses are reluctant to invest or
you know, build new factories or anything that is uncertainty
across the market, and they're reluctant to hire. So this
is all kind of we just got the jobs numbers.
They're low and inflation is growing. That's backwards, okay. In

(01:44:46):
the normal world, the like, if jobs are growing, right,
you have more jobs, you often have inflation because wage
pressure goes up if you've got more jobs available, where
people are working, they're going to demand higher wages. They've
got more money, right, and then they've got more money
to spend. Businesses raise their prices because they can afford

(01:45:08):
to raise their prices. And now they've got all these
workers that they got to pay all this extra money to,
so like, and that's the virtuous cycle of like growth
in an economy.

Speaker 1 (01:45:16):
Because the price is raised and raised, and then I
want higher wage, and then the price is raised more
and I want another higher rate wage and yeah, we
saw that going twenty twenty one to twenty three.

Speaker 2 (01:45:26):
Yeah, and as long as the wages outpaced the prices,
then that's just called growth. And that's great. Everybody likes that.

Speaker 1 (01:45:33):
But we want that at a two percent clip.

Speaker 2 (01:45:35):
But we want it at a two percent clip. We
don't want it any hotter than that, and we don't
want it any cooler than that. But what we've got now,
where jobs are dropping or flat and inflation is going up,
that's what we call stagflation. Yeah, and that's bad because
the feds tools for dealing with this are the interest rates. There.

(01:45:57):
If there's too much growth, right, they can raise rates
and slow things down. They can take some money out
of the economy. So if you see inflation going up,
the thing to do is to raise the rates and
slow it down. Right, But if you see unemployment going up,
you see jobs going down, the thing to do is
lower the rates to cause a bit more growth. But
now you've got these two things diverging. You've got jobs

(01:46:19):
going down and you've got prices going up. Which thing
do you select?

Speaker 1 (01:46:24):
You know?

Speaker 2 (01:46:26):
Now, if there's anybody can figure it out, it's Tes's
personal hero, Jay Powell.

Speaker 1 (01:46:31):
He's got a few months.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
But is he going to be able to do it
if you've got somebody who's purposely trying to undermine everything
you do.

Speaker 1 (01:46:39):
No, I think there's a few things here, right. I mean,
obviously tarifs are going to be playing a bigger and
huge part in this going forward. I think the long
I'm thinking more ten years from now. How do you
turn off these tariffs once they start? I mean, because
Congress will get this money, and will they want to
give this money up? How do these sarace? Ever? And granted,

(01:47:01):
like well, the courts could rule that they're not legal,
that's one way, that's one way there. But for the
ones that end up being legal, right, if there are
if any of these are legal, I don't see this
turning off. And then I just wonder, like does this
country go into and what's prop A lot of folks
will ask what's propping up the stock market then? Right,
because the stock markets that it's investment in AI. Right,

(01:47:24):
that's the only thing that's it. There's nothing, there's really
nothing else that if you remove that, I think you're
clearly like all of this falls apart. I mean, that's
that seems to be the only area in this country
currently that has like actual unique investment in people spending
money on it. And I think that could also be

(01:47:45):
at the detriment of actual jobs because that's why we
see that we see folks being unemployed for longer, right,
I mean it's a different set of jobs too.

Speaker 2 (01:47:54):
Yeah, and then what we're used to seeing, we're used
to seeing technology knock blue collar and production fact three
jobs offline. Uh, and now we're seeing that AI could
really be knocking off service sector jobs yeah, some white yeah,
which really, you know, we don't have like a remedy
for that. Like we know how to train coal miners
to do other important jobs. We don't know what to

(01:48:17):
do with a bunch of out of work accountants, and
that that doesn't Our economy really isn't built to absorb that.

Speaker 1 (01:48:25):
The only way is universal basic income. That's what it
is to flow down there. It's only it's it's literally
the only way.

Speaker 2 (01:48:34):
So when I tell everybody to get a CV radio,
you're like, oh, that's fear mongering and stuff. But Ted
is talking about rewiring the entire capitalist system, and I'm
supposed to just sit here and be like, Yeah, that's cool.

Speaker 1 (01:48:44):
I'm just saying, at a certain point, you're gonna have
to pay people to stay at home if you want
to keep people to buy things, and that's what it's
going to be. And maybe it's okay. Maybe that person
learns to play guitar and they go to the park
and they play guitar for an hour and people go
and sit around and listen to the first who play
the guitar, and that's what they do now, and they're
more fulfilled people. Maybe that's the AI revetion.

Speaker 2 (01:49:04):
Sounds great, but that's not what we do in this country.
Our money is green, you pinko.

Speaker 1 (01:49:09):
It can be green. You can now it will get
The money that they're gonna give you is green, and
you'll go out and use that money to do other
things instead. Again you go to take the charm lessons.

Speaker 2 (01:49:20):
How am I supposed to make fun of the French
for being lazy idiots? If we're not working ourselves to
the bone to get our green money to wave.

Speaker 1 (01:49:29):
It, there might eventually need to be a change in
the way we actually think in this country around this
and maybe we all go, maybe maybe they pay us
all to go help the climate.

Speaker 2 (01:49:39):
It is god given right. Is an American not to
change my way of doing things?

Speaker 1 (01:49:45):
Well, it's coming coming soon, I think.

Speaker 2 (01:49:49):
I think the other thing really to be paying attention
to with you know, the numbers. The numbers are what
they are, right, But we got a real kind of
shift going on, rewiring of like where the economy how

(01:50:10):
it works, because to your point about the tariffs, like
if they stick, if Congress gets addicted to this money,
if other countries put reciprocal tariffs on us, and if
the world economy kind of reroutes itself around the United States,

(01:50:31):
we might really get stuck. And the stagflation thing might
be kind of the least of our problems because if
we get cut out from the world economy, like we
can't buy enough of our own coren We can't buy
enough of our own commodity products that we can produce.
The things that we're good at are really only valuable

(01:50:53):
if we can sell them to the rest of the world.
You know, the things that America is good at making,
the things that our resource is are particularly useful for
our inland waterways, our giant amber, waves of grain on
the great planes, you know, our our huge our coastal access.
All of these things are are mostly built around our

(01:51:14):
ability to produce things and sell them somewhere else and
then buy different things that those countries are good at making.
We're not really set up to be a good insular economy.
And I think that the tariffs have not just the
financial aspect, not just the fiscal aspect, not just the

(01:51:35):
monetary policy aspect of this, not the inflationary aspect. I
think that the like the real world economy aspect of
these things is a is a thing to be watching.
So just like kind of heads up on that, Like
if the world We've talked about that on this show
so many times, if the world learns to skip us,

(01:51:55):
we're kind of double fucked, and we don't we don't
have a way around that.

Speaker 1 (01:51:59):
It doesn't see it seems the world is going to
try to ride this out. Every trade deal I've listened
to that's went through seems to be like, all right, cool, Yeah,
we're gonna let you charge us fifteen. What we're not
gonna do reciprocal A trade deal takes years to get done. Anyways,
if you look at the last the only one, I guess,

(01:52:21):
I guess the only actual one would be the new NAFTA. Right, yeah,
that's the only one. There's never there's never an actual
one with China.

Speaker 2 (01:52:29):
No, no, he never got any actual deals with anybody.
And all these other things are just frameworks or tacos.
Speaking of that pay to play though aspect, let's talk
about it in video.

Speaker 1 (01:52:38):
So the.

Speaker 2 (01:52:42):
Yeah, so basically Trump ran a shakedown. He he goes
to in video and to AMD. He he also did
this to them. These are big chip makers. What they
do is they they make the chips that are running
the AI world. And if you'd have told me twenty
years ago that graphics.

Speaker 1 (01:52:59):
Graphics, no way in hell, no way, no way, if
you kind of because you know why, I wouldn't have
missed this both and I would have been rich. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:53:07):
Well, because when I when I here in video, I think,
oh yeah, you gotta have like the high enough in
video card to be able to play Diablo.

Speaker 1 (01:53:14):
Yeah, exactly, my U crowd what is it? I have
to say, CrowdStrike?

Speaker 3 (01:53:18):
What was it?

Speaker 1 (01:53:19):
Counter strike?

Speaker 2 (01:53:19):
Is work strike?

Speaker 1 (01:53:21):
It don't work because I need a new and video Like,
no way in hell you could have told me this.

Speaker 2 (01:53:27):
I'm not even sure how graphics uh cards or graphics
cards or the chips that are on the graphics cards
are better at AI than like regular you know, for
eighty six multiple chips or something, but somehow they are.

Speaker 1 (01:53:43):
I'm not I'm not the I don't know enough about
math to be good at that.

Speaker 2 (01:53:47):
But anyway, in Video and Andy make a lot of
the chips and they are huge, right, and they need
to be able to sell these chips all over the
world because everybody wants to buy them.

Speaker 1 (01:53:56):
They're building up.

Speaker 2 (01:53:57):
These massive AI data centers or farms and all this
kind of stuff, sucking up all the water and making
tez cry and these these things need to laugh, man,
laugh and uh. And there are reasons, legitimate reasons that
the US government really doesn't want like some of these

(01:54:18):
chips going to places like China because the Chinese could
do stuff with these chips that harms us, right, so
you might want to put like a legitimate.

Speaker 1 (01:54:27):
Extra Biden put a stop to that.

Speaker 2 (01:54:29):
Yeah, Joe Biden was like, no, you're not getting any
of these chips, right, And and that's a legitimate what
what they call, uh, you know, national security right export controls?

Speaker 1 (01:54:40):
They guess started and guess who who's the one who
initiated this from the beginning. For folks to even think
this way about China this way, that starts from Donald
Trump in its first term. It that is, no one
was thinking this way about China until he approached it
this way. And yeah, and Joe, I think when it's
the tariffs or what some of the chip controls that

(01:55:01):
he put in, Joe Biden's like, oh, yeah, that kind
of makes sense actually, And now it's Donald Trump who's
flipping on it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:08):
He's flipping on it because there's a price, right, Yes,
a price. So he basically says, hey, look, I didn't
really worry about those export controls. There's no risk of
the Chinese getting Nvidia chips as long as they pay me.
So he shakes him down. He goes, you want to
sell to China fifteen percent or he said twenty percent,

(01:55:28):
and they're like, how about fifteen he goes deal, and.

Speaker 8 (01:55:30):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (01:55:33):
So they're paying to be able to export these chips. Now,
there is a big problem here is that the US
Constitution expressly prohibits export taxes. The United States government cannot
charge a tax on any US producer of any kind
in order to be able to sell things out of

(01:55:54):
the country. Because they anticipated this potential problem, right, is
that the government could I want to shake somebody down.
And you know, God bless the Hamilton and these guys
for thinking this through. But that was one of the
things that they thought of, and they did think this through,
and they banned it. And now Trump's like, I don't
care about the constitution fifteen percent, so and and Nvidia

(01:56:17):
is willing to pay that, right because they're making money
hand over fist. This is cost of doing business. It's
like fifteen percent haircut, no problem, We're making fifty percent
profits on everything. Fucking let's go guys. So now who's next, Right,
does he go after Apple? Does he go after you
know who else? Does he shake down?

Speaker 1 (01:56:36):
Well, Apple's already no, no, they're already safe because they
said they want to drink it. Well, yeah, the first
time the little China Apple said, will move all the
shit to India to avoid it, and then India pissed
them all. He's like, oh shit, well you gotta get excluded. Yeah,
I mean these guys, it's you know, it's one of
those things where it's as its CEO. When Joe Biden

(01:57:03):
was in office, there were they moved differently, right there was.
It was a completely different move on how they Now
Donald Trump is in office, and now they'll move differently,
and they're gonna go like it doesn't Matt, like, let's
just say MONI wins the freaking president. They can't win that.
But let's say a style of right of that style
wins the presidency. These country companies will flip again. Yeah,

(01:57:26):
and they're gonna continue to flip back and forth to
whatever's gonna protect their business.

Speaker 2 (01:57:30):
And and that's their job, right, Let's not let's not
get ourselves corporations. As Mitt Romney said, our people and
uh that's.

Speaker 1 (01:57:40):
Hey listen to. Wasn't it a whole roundtable? What's I
forgot the group right where they told us that we
that now they figured it out. There's a different way
to go about this. That shareholder price isn't the only
thing that there are other things, like they just told
me that.

Speaker 2 (01:57:54):
Get the fuck out of here esg Yeah right, Oh
that died with dei.

Speaker 1 (01:58:02):
Oh all the acronyms are dead. What the fuck?

Speaker 2 (01:58:06):
Yeah, No, nobody cares about that. Speaking of which, taco,
here's an everybody loves. All Right, So the taco, the
taco trade, if you bet on it, you got it, right,
of course you did. Because Trump always China, especially with China,
especially with China. Right, You'll notice that the like the
secondary tariffs or sanctions that he's trying to put for

(01:58:26):
buying Russian oil. He went after India, he didn't go
after China. China buys almost twice as much oil from
Russia as India does. So you know the China thing,
Like Trump loves to fight with China and like blame
them for everything, but he's never actually willing to like
put the screws to them. Because we're talking about the
two biggest economies in the world. The United States needs China,

(01:58:49):
China needs the United States. This is a mutually assured
economic destruction.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
Yeah, and no one wants to and the worst of
the world is looking like lease, everybody siut yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:59:00):
Right. So it's there's this great phrase. It's an African phrase.
It says, when two elephants are fighting, the grass will suffer.
And that would be the case, right if the United
States and China got into an actual trade war, then
everybody would suffer and nobody wants it, so at least
of which Trump so like, after threatening China was like, okay,

(01:59:23):
this is your doomsday cutoff, right, you know, he extended
it again another ninety days. So now he's kicked this
down into like what November or something like that. They've
been meeting. There's been some meetings between American negotiators and
the Chinese negotiators and all kinds of fancy places like
Geneva's Stockholm in London. Must be nice to be a negotiator.
You gotta go to like great places. You can't have

(01:59:45):
a zoom meeting. You have to go you have that
fancy fucking hotel in some fancy fucking city and have caviar.
That's the only way to negotiate.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
On your government's gone.

Speaker 2 (01:59:57):
How else could we figure out to trade deal? We're
not if we're not getting foot rubs and uh, you know,
going on expensive fishing trips.

Speaker 1 (02:00:07):
Whatever.

Speaker 2 (02:00:09):
You want to be a trade negotiator, I'd be a
great trade negotiating.

Speaker 1 (02:00:13):
Like more, yeah, give.

Speaker 2 (02:00:16):
Me all the ship I want. And then they're gonna
be like no, and I'll be like, all right, tell
you what, why don't we go meet in Stockholm? And
they'd be like, you know what, that sounds like a
great idea. Then three days of me pounding around with
the Chinese version of me and be like, did you accompligiate? No,
but we think the next meeting that we need to
have should be in Tahiti. That's gonna get us there.

(02:00:37):
And you know, and they're just playing this game. Man.

Speaker 1 (02:00:41):
It's a government grift on both sides.

Speaker 2 (02:00:45):
The negotiators are just out here racking up airline miles
and they're never going to reach a deal as long
as now. If you want them to reach a deal,
you send them to someplace like Rochester, New York and
say you can't leave until you figure this shit out.
They'll have to deal in an instant. Buffalo Buffalo. No,
I don't slander Buffalo. Buffalo is a nice place.

Speaker 1 (02:01:06):
I like it. I'm just saying that they're not gonna
like it there.

Speaker 2 (02:01:08):
No, they're not gonna lie you there. Pick someplace that
they're gonna hate, right, Cord Lane, Idaho. You're going to
court Alaine until you figure this ship out. But it's
fucking cold and in the mountains. Yeah, you goddamn right,
it is. Figure it out or you're never leaving the mountains. Right. Okay,
let's move on to other cold places where people are
gonna meet. So let's talk about Alaska. We gotta we

(02:01:30):
we just gotta get this out because it's happening tomorrow.
Nobody really knows what's gonna happen. Trump like what on
Sunday said I'm gonna meet with Putin on Friday.

Speaker 1 (02:01:41):
No, they alluded to it a couple of days prior.
They alluded to okay, but they basically through the Sunday
is yeah, Sunday because on Monday he was like, that's
why he was frustrated with the in the DC meeting.
You know what, I gotta look at my streets.

Speaker 2 (02:02:02):
Yeah, right, like I got to go to Russia and
talk to this guy. It's like, you're going to Alaska.
You're fucking moron. You're not going to Russia. He's coming here.
For now, right, it might be Russia soon. So, uh,
they're gonna meet in Anchorage, Alaska, which is not the
capital of Alaska, Juno's capital of Alaska in case anybody
forgets that. Anchorage is the largest city in Alaska. I

(02:02:25):
think it's up to seventeen people now. So it's it's
a very exciting, Okay, sure in my elementary school. Uh,
they're gonna meet that. It's it's not really clear like
what they're gonna.

Speaker 1 (02:02:40):
No one knows what's happening right now. They tried to
get out in front of this.

Speaker 2 (02:02:46):
Yeah, so the Europeans caught an emergency zoom meeting to
all get together, Like Zelenski had to go to Berlin
to hang out with Merits to get on the phone
with Trump. And they all get on the phone. They're like, hey,
you know, when you go talk to Putin, remember you
can't give away anything from Ukraine. You don't own Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (02:03:04):
And he was like, what what was the mineral deal for?

Speaker 13 (02:03:08):
Yeah, right, yeah, yeah, I thought Ukraine. I thought about
it when I bought that building, you know, And and
they're like, no, you can't do that. And also they're
they're like, hey, man, we want to buy like all
the stuff from you.

Speaker 2 (02:03:22):
Like, if you keep supplying Ukraine through the NATO countries,
you get to make money. And Trump loves money. Yeah,
oh yeah, I forgot about the money, right, So like
money is good, right, don't you want money? And he's
like yeah, yeah yeah, and they're like okay, good. So
when you go talk to Vladie, don't in the war

(02:03:45):
by giving him chunks of Ukraine. Remember if you fight
and Ukraine fights, you get money, right, money, money, And
he's like yeah, yeah money.

Speaker 1 (02:03:54):
They're like right, so what.

Speaker 2 (02:03:56):
Are you gonna do And he's like, I'm gonna give
him the dun boss and they're like, no, you fucking
more on, let's start over.

Speaker 1 (02:04:03):
They jingle the.

Speaker 2 (02:04:04):
Money and they're like you like the money. He's like yeah,
like the money. Can't give up the bas don't give up,
don boss and you get money, give up dunboss and
I get no, no no, So like they try. I
don't know what's gonna happen there having a meaning where
they're gonna do another one of these things where there's
gonna be no note takers, just the translators in the room.

Speaker 3 (02:04:24):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (02:04:25):
And you know we had this before when when he
gave him that soccer ball and he said that he
loved what over.

Speaker 1 (02:04:33):
The wild card? What if he comes out of this,
when he comes out of this and drop sanctions like again,
I don't know, because again I don't know what's about
to happen here. Everything leading up to this definitely seems
like I mean, he could easily give away all the Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (02:04:49):
He's a nutball though, so he can just give He
could do anything right, He could lose his school, he
could feel slighted, he could you know, he's a crazy
old man. He's he's definitely got the old time.

Speaker 1 (02:04:59):
That's the thing. Could I don't know well, or the other.

Speaker 2 (02:05:01):
Thing is they're going to be in there one on
one and Putin's gonna be like, all right, you know
you had enough fun, but the p tape is in
my hand, so like fucking you know, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (02:05:12):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (02:05:14):
But also Putin speaks English like people, I don't know
why they think that he doesn't. He speaks English. Yeah,
so you can't say anything without him knowing what you're saying.

Speaker 1 (02:05:26):
He can do that because you don't speak Russian. But I.

Speaker 2 (02:05:32):
Don't, I don't know, I have no expectations here, I do.
We are along for the ride on this and it
could go very bad, very quickly, or it could go
find but like I don't know what looks like though,
well yeah, I don't know either. I mean, look, there's

(02:05:52):
no chance that Trump says anything to Putin that convinces
him to stop the war and give back the chunks
of Ukraine that he's currently occupying, because he sees no
reason to do that. Even if Trump threatens to Nukham,
Putin's gonna be like, go ahead and do it.

Speaker 1 (02:06:08):
Like I've just been reading about nucle like because obviously
we came up on the anniversary a few weeks ago
and christ I was did landing to the hope. It's horrific, it.
I mean, it's just the power that the president has
of his inigular weapons, or it shouldn't be that. But
I also kind of get we got seven minutes to

(02:06:30):
figure out what the house after, like you got seven
minutes to crazy.

Speaker 2 (02:06:37):
So like that's the thing is, is what could he
possibly say that we change Putin's mind? The answer is nothing,
So Putin has nothing to lose here. He can only
he's just going to see what he can get out
of Trump.

Speaker 1 (02:06:50):
Also, he already got it that He's already got it,
got the meeting.

Speaker 2 (02:06:53):
He got what he wanted, and you know, he's he's
getting around all these he's an indicted war criminals, but
he's traveling to the United States somehow safely without getting pinched.
The other the other thing is that like Trump can't
actually give away anything in Ukraine. Like the maximum give
he can he can do to the Russians is he

(02:07:14):
can say, all right, I'm gonna cut off everything going
to Ukraine and let you run over them. But the
Europeans are not going to let that happen.

Speaker 1 (02:07:20):
And he hasn't shown he hasn't been doing that. It's yeah,
a few weeks.

Speaker 2 (02:07:27):
Yeah, so I don't know. And you know, and MTGS
worried about civilian casualties and Gaza things are going crazy
right now. It's a strange place, it is. It turns
out maybe enough carnage gets to these people. You know,
it's it's not enough if like it's a few hundred
people dead, but if it's a you know, tens of thousands,
they're like, oh, that's not great. I don't know. I

(02:07:50):
don't know, but my expectations are not good.

Speaker 1 (02:07:53):
I mean, one way or another, it'll be you know,
the song that will be sung will be crimea River. Ha.

Speaker 2 (02:08:04):
You know, there's this whole poem about the charge of
the Light Brigade and all that stuff. Right, it's about
it's about the Crimean War when England was fighting.

Speaker 9 (02:08:12):
In I was not to do or die or not
not the reason why it is just to do or
die that is that's the cry the charging light Brigade.

Speaker 2 (02:08:24):
That's the line. Very British, I know, poems or something.
All right, Fascism on display. So Trump is taking over
the Smithsonian. Apparently they're gonna do a sweeping review of
all the things in the Smithsonian and it's they're gonna
have their truth and Sanity restoration in there. So they're

(02:08:46):
gonna basically what. They sent this letter to Lonnie Bunch
that said, like, we're gonna whitewash your museums. And Director
Bunch was like our secretary. Bunch is like, no, we
have you know, chartered by Congress. We're not executive branch.
You don't have the authority to do this. And uh,
you know, we don't care. You're not gonna stop us.

(02:09:08):
We have a thing he said, Uh, let's see, the
Smithsonian's work is grounded in a deep commitment to scholarly excellence,
rigorous research, and the accurate, factual presentation of history. As
h Smithsonian spokesperson said, we are reviewing the letter from
the White House and this commitment in with this commitment
in mind, and will continue to collaborate constructively with the

(02:09:29):
White House, Congress and our governing board of regions. They
tried to replace some of the board earlier and lost
in court on that. So, like, I don't know, I
think this is this is if you, if you, if you,
somehow all the other things we've talked about in the
last two hours have not convinced you that this is

(02:09:50):
a fascist regime, like trying to literally rewrite the history.

Speaker 1 (02:09:55):
Come on, guys, what are we doing here? We federal
troops inside the museums and so.

Speaker 2 (02:10:01):
Right, make sure you don't look at that Rosa Parks exhibit.
I thought it was it was sort of interesting that
the first unhoused people that they went after were the
ones over there near the African American History Museum. Yeah, you,
right between African American History and the Holocaust Museum is
where they stationed the first set of troops. I was like, yeah,

(02:10:22):
there's a little symbolism.

Speaker 1 (02:10:23):
There there you go. Yeah, you know, first ones to
the camps. That's right.

Speaker 2 (02:10:28):
Why aren't these the two museums that are closed first
an American Indian? Wait a minute, and why is that
that caveman riding on that dinosaur? All of a sudden,
something's not right? All right, this one's called we still

(02:10:50):
have a chance, all right. So we mentioned Alex Jones
right when we played his thing, and we have been trying.
We were hoping that maybe we were gonna get to
buy into Wars or at least Turbo Force. We want
the Turbo Force because it's five different kinds of caffeine.

Speaker 1 (02:11:08):
That's probably turning the FROs g.

Speaker 2 (02:11:12):
Yeah, this stuff is probably great for the frogs. Why
our energy drinks colors. That's the only reason an energy
drink is the color is because they expect you to
mix it with alcohol. Here's my theory.

Speaker 1 (02:11:28):
That's actually a good point. Man.

Speaker 2 (02:11:30):
Nobody on God's green Earth has ever poured an energy
drink out of the can, and they drink them straight
out of the cancer. Does not matter what color this is.
But for whatever reason, this is pink.

Speaker 1 (02:11:47):
You know, a little red bull and vodka.

Speaker 2 (02:11:50):
Exactly. They're adding Red forty and uh blue.

Speaker 1 (02:11:55):
Number one, not for long, not when not when JFK
Junior gets to them.

Speaker 2 (02:12:00):
Yeah okay, but like those things aren't free RFK j
Yeah JK.

Speaker 1 (02:12:07):
Juniors in Dallas, Yeah, exactly. Excuse waiting for QWO and nine.

Speaker 2 (02:12:12):
Somewhere somebody's making a business case and they're like, hey, Ted,
should we add the red forty. It's costing us, you know,
X number one thousands of dollars and he's like, yeah,
we should, and and they go but nobody sees this.

Speaker 1 (02:12:26):
They wouldn't know if.

Speaker 2 (02:12:27):
It's red or not. And he goes, yeah, they are
because they're mixing it in their vodka. And yeah, you
make a great case, sir. That's why you're the CEO
of Energy Drinks Unanimous or whatever.

Speaker 1 (02:12:39):
Yeah, okay.

Speaker 2 (02:12:41):
So Alex Jones has Turbo Force for now, but he's
bankrupt and the courts ruled that he has to give
up his stuff to the Sandy Hook families and they
cut a deal with the Onion to basically buy it,
and then the courts were like, no, that that deal
is not good. There's there's like technical hang ups here.

(02:13:03):
So that meant we were like, oh, this is an opportunity,
all right, we can swoop in, you know, and buy
Turbo Force. The state judge in Texas Wednesday ordered Info
Wars assets to be turned over to a newly appointed
state receiver. Sounds good so far. Who will sell them
to pay the families of Connecticut children of the Connecticut
children killed in Sandy Hook. They won a one point
three billion dollar defamation case against Jones after he's spread

(02:13:26):
a bunch of bogus conspiracies about, you know, the shooting
never happening in whatever, then his listeners harassed all the
actual families. The move paves the way for the receiver
or the sheriffs to start the process of seizing cash
and property owned by Info Wars within days the families
that you know, then it gets sold. So like, oh,
I'm so ready, Like I guess we're going to Texas

(02:13:46):
to buy some turbofors. But the family said that they're
they're pleased that the court has placed info Wars into receivership,
and you know that there's some accountability. Judge my Gara
Gamble's order in Travis County, Texas District Court appointing a
receiver may herold a quick end to Jones's long run

(02:14:08):
under the info Wars brand. Most of the Sandy Hook
family still want the info Wars name and property sold
to the Onion, which avowed to turn info Wars into
a parody of itself. My god, you sure you don't
want to give Chipjet just a little piece, Like, we
don't need a lot. Just give us the terble force,
That's all we mean. Last December, federal bankruptcy court in
Texas stopped to saal to the Onion, saying that the

(02:14:28):
bankruptcy auction process was flawed. So Jones was like, whoa,
I'm free for a little bit. But the newly appointed
receiver has the power to collect all accounts receivable, change
the locks on all the premises at which any property
is situated, including I guess his house, access all storage facilities,
safe deposit boxes, and real property, and exercise control over
any website of Jones according to the order. The order

(02:14:50):
adds that any sheriff, constable or officer of the piece
shall assist the Receiver in carrying out his duties and
exercising his power under the orders. Now that there's a receiver,
Jase Alex Jones is no longer going to control in
full wars. It's time to shut it down, said one
of the lawyers. But looks like maybe the onion is
still gonna get it. You know that sounds like it,

(02:15:13):
sounds like it, But you know, Texas receiver guy, what's
your what's the guy's name? Uh, Gregory Milligan. Look, we'll
let you come on the show and say anything you want.

Speaker 1 (02:15:25):
You can.

Speaker 2 (02:15:26):
You can have a three hour Brian will do a
short show. We'll let him have three hours and you
can say anything he wants on air to all of
our tens of listeners, and and in exchange for just
a change, we just want to buy it. We don't
even want you to give us stuff. We just want
to buy. We just want the Turbo Force. You can
give the rest, you can sell the rest. We just

(02:15:46):
want to buy a turble Sko Turbo Force. It turns
the fronts game. Who all right, we've covered the end
of the show.

Speaker 1 (02:15:56):
We did get a shorter one, short one.

Speaker 2 (02:16:01):
All right, So we want to say thanks to our
current guests, the National Guardia, FBI, Secret Service, the Girls Scout.

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