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December 26, 2024 • 30 mins
Eric Sherman, a retired firefighter with Toledo Fire and Rescue, brings a lifetime of dedication to both community and spiritual leadership. As the senior pastor of Victory Life Church in Toledo and Chaplain of the Toledo Fire Department, he continues to serve with unwavering faith and compassion. Join us as we explore his inspiring journey of courage, ministry, and mentorship.

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Speaker 1 (00:23):
Today on the voices of Legacy with yours truly, Pastor Carl,
were honored to have with mister Eric Sherman, a retired
firefighter who has dedicated his life to service both in
the community and in faith. Following a distinguished career with
the Toledo Fire Department, mister Sherman transitioned into ministry. Actually

(00:46):
I believe he's been in ministry before he retired from
the fire department, but he does lead Victory Life Worship
Center here in Toledo, Ohio. Additionally, he holds a prominent
position as bishop, presiding over the Churches of the Living
God Organization, a role previously held by his father, the

(01:08):
late Bishop James Sherman, almost said Mitchell James Sherman, though
both public service and pastoral leadership are parts of his life.
We're going to talk about a lot of things today
as we introduce to some. See I'm going to do
church and ease for you today, Bishop introduce to some
and present to others none other than Bishop, Pastor and

(01:31):
former firefighter mister Eric Sherman. Good afternoon, good morning, and
good evening. Mister Eric, how are you.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I'm great, mister Mitchell, how are you today.

Speaker 1 (01:41):
I can't complain. We were blessed to have you here
for the voices of legacy. We thank you for coming.
Tell us a little bit about yourself.

Speaker 2 (01:48):
My name is Eric Sherman. Just celebrated sixty six years
of being here on the earth. Well, happy birthday, Thank you,
thank you. I'm thirty three year veteran with the Fire Department.
Also have been pastoring the church locally here in Toledo.
I it do Life Worship Center. This is our twenty
fifth year for that as well. Awesome, and as you

(02:09):
said in your intro, this is my second year in
the bishopric of overseeing eight churches in our district. Organization
the Church of the Living God.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
Awesome. How big is that organization?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Well, the organization is not a very big organization. I
would say statewide about one hundred and fifty churches with
missions vous in Africa, in Jamaica and other part of
the Caribbean. So not a very big organization, but very sound, awesome,
very sound, with a great legacy.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well, size isn't the matter. I think effectiveness and you
all do a lot in the community as well. Is
that right?

Speaker 2 (02:45):
That is correct? That's correct?

Speaker 1 (02:47):
What what type of programs do you have in the
community here in Lucas County.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
Right here in Lucas County, we just recently adopted Glenwood
Elementary School, and we do ministry work with the church
mission and also the Sparrows Nests as well, and also
the YWCA as well, So we stayed pretty active.

Speaker 1 (03:08):
Awesome some ministries of help, yes, exactly helping people out.
That's great. Could you share a little bit of your
journey in the firefighting feeld as well as you've already
done with the ministry.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
Well, in the year of nineteen eighty nine, I've got
sworn in into the Touluto Fire Department. Had a very
illustrious career thirty three years with the Toledo Fire Department.
The last five years of my tenure there was I
transferred to a department called EAP Employment Assistance Program with

(03:45):
the to Little Fire Still a firefighter, but I wanted
to venture to something else. I was getting older, but
I just had a heart to help people, and with
the Toledo Fire EAP, our main concern was address the
emotional and mental needs of our firefighters. What a lot
of people don't know, Police and fire suicides have been

(04:09):
increased dramatically across the country. One of the reasons is
that a lot of times the firefighters accumulate so much
in their mental capacity of seeing so many bad runs,
our minds were not geared to absorb the things that
we see. So my job was to help process a

(04:31):
lot of these runs as well as everyday life, marital life, parenting,
everything from A to Z. I was responsible for helping
our firefighters navigate so that they won't get to a
level of being suicidal. So it was like a ministry
within itself. And the things that I could not try

(04:52):
to get through, we always had a professional counselors and
professional help to well as well, so I would act
as a liaison to connect our guys with those UH services.
So it was it was quite quite tasking, but it
was very rewarding, very rewarding.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
So kind of handling a form of PTSD, I guess.

Speaker 2 (05:11):
That too, that too PTSD. And also, as I said,
you know the everyday UH things, what that life has
to present itself with family issues, and you compile all
of that together, y it's a time bomb waiting to
happen unless things are alleviated. And so my job was

(05:32):
to help alleviate these things at at early early stage.

Speaker 1 (05:35):
Gotcha, And you guys really do get to see a
lot of unfortunate stuff. I'm assumingly yes.

Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes. As I said earlier, I don't think the human
mind was designed to see the things that we see unaffected.
So I have a greater respect for police officers. I
have a greater respect for our men and women that's
in the military that I've actually seen these things because
they just don't automatically leave. We try to cover them

(06:04):
up because that's what the human mind tries to do.
But still it's there, and so our job a lot
of times is to help deal with that it's there
so it doesn't explode into something else.

Speaker 1 (06:16):
Understood, that sounds like a very important thing to address
when it comes to firefighting and our first responders in
your family, I guess my next question would be, are
there a lot of firefighters and police officers? Is that
something that is common in your family?

Speaker 2 (06:37):
Well, no, not really. My brother he's a retired firefighter
as well, and I do have a first cousin that
he's a retired police officer. If I have two first
cousins that are retired police officer, and come think about it.
I do have another cousin that has retired from the
Toledo Fire Department as well, So I guess you can say,

(06:58):
to a degree, yeah, it's a family.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Just not generational.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Exactly exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
What did your dad do with you?

Speaker 2 (07:05):
My dad was he was a welder fabricator. He did
that for over thirty years. But he was a bivocational
minister as well as I was a bivocational minister as well,
and explained by vocation, bivocational simply means that I operate
in the ministry and I work a secular job as well.

Speaker 1 (07:24):
Gotcha.

Speaker 2 (07:24):
So I did that throughout the tenure of my job
with the Toledo Fire Department.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
So you're no longer.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
That, No, no, no longer, no, no longer than that,
no longer your full time exactly, but retired, Yes, retire
from the firefighter, which gives me more opportunity to work
with the ministry. Yes, awesome.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
So, reflecting on your time with the Toledo Fire Department,
the values and experiences in that career that influenced you,
has any of that actually influenced your pastoral work.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Well to the degree that many co workers that I
work with. They are now members that our church. Really yes, yes, yes,
I could say if.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
A fire river broke out at Victory Life Worship Center,
you're going to be all right.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
Yeah, And even further than that because now firefighting, most
of our fire fighting across the country, seventy percent of
that maybe seventy five, almost eighty percent is ems and
so all of our firefighters are trained to be EMTs
as well as firefighters. So when you call nine one one,
that's why you get a fire truck.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
You really are right then.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
So to answer your questions, so if anyone ever have
any medical conditions, a lot of people are trained to
address those medical conditions.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
Just to train folks. We used to have nurses about
every church, at least in our in the church tradition.
So that's a good thing because is not as common anymore. Unfortunately,
you're dead. You're dead. The late ship James Sherman, Yes,
he left a significant legacy in the churches of the

(09:06):
Living God. How has that influence and shaped your own
vision and approach to ministry?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Very good question. Well, I would say this, I want
to talk about the natural side of the legacy that
he left. It's amazing. I was born a preacher's kid.
You're PK for real? Yeah, yeah, never wanted that title,
but what it allowed me to see a real man

(09:34):
of high integrity and more values. You hear so many
stories about people that are saying the walk, but saying
the talk but not living the walk. Who I had
a chance to observe him for all of my life,
and he's always been of a man of high integrity.
With that, he left a legacy of hard work which
he had gleaned from his dad too, which even it

(09:58):
had such an impact upon to me, of hard work, labor,
doing a job right, working with the spirit of excellence.
To the point that I started working when I was
fifteen years old. I've been in the actual Social Security
network for probably close to fifty years.

Speaker 1 (10:16):
What were you doing at fifteen?

Speaker 2 (10:17):
At fifteen, I was started at a dishwasher at Hillcrest
Hotel back in the seventies, the old hill Crest it
was real, Yeah, when it was a real hotel. Yeah.
And so just seeing my dad work, my grandfather work,
I come from a legacy of hard workers. Even after
I got married, I worked two jobs for eleven years.

(10:41):
Then when I got the fire department. We always had
an opportunity to work a second job. So total, I've
probably worked two jobs over twenty twenty five years.

Speaker 1 (10:49):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Again, I attributed a hard work to my dad, and
so that also that hard work ethics of hard work,
it also transcended when it worked the ministry as well.
I've seen him start a church from scratch, which never
was my idea to do, even though I end up
doing it. And just to see the hard work that
he put in it, the uh, the should the emotions

(11:15):
that I said that he put. He put his heart
and soul in building something for the Lord, and it
was just amazing to watch his journey. Again, not knowing
that I would walk to journey that was similar, but
him being a good example of what a real man
of integrity and of God should looked like. It had
a resounding effect upon me. So it Yeah, even when

(11:37):
I went wayward for a while. Oh yeah, what a
lot of preacher kids do because of the pressure and
the expectation of the community. And after a while you
get tired of that, and so you want, yeah, exactly,
exactly exactly.

Speaker 1 (11:53):
And your dad what what did he do for a
living outside of church?

Speaker 2 (11:57):
Okay, he was a well defabricator. He was responsible to
building the frames of buildings, the frames of the truck
scale and even the Renaissance Center down in Town Detroit.
They were responsible for doing a lot of prefabrication. We
had a conference Serve maybe about twenty years ago, and

(12:18):
he's walking around in the hallway. So what are you
walking around looking for? He says, well, when we do prefabrications,
we put our mark on it. So he's looking around
to see if the structure I'm looking for my mark.

Speaker 1 (12:30):
That's awesome, that's awesome. And in music as well, yes, yes,
he was.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
A what we would call a stell guitar player, which
is on Hawaiian guitar. He played there.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
You're going to have to explain what in the world
is a Hawaiian guitar.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
Okay, Hawaiian guitar is a guitar that is played on
the lap, has strings and you would run a bar
across the strings instead of the frets. And so he
played that for years and he learned that in the
church as well as a drummer, and it had is

(13:04):
there's music all in his blood because his dad, it
was a guitarist and his dad, my grandfather also he
played the keyboards some uh, just that natural talent being
inside of him. He did hand it down to my
brother and my sister and I. I became a bass
guitar player for a church. My brother was a regular

(13:24):
guitar player and drummer, and my sisters. You all know
which is a professional vocalist right now. Awesome keyboard player
she is now as well as an organist, so I
will what's her name is? Melody Smith? Melody Smith, Melody Smith,
and I attributed to my dad. I remember when my

(13:44):
brother and I was first starting to learn the guitar.
We didn't know anything, and he said, well, the first
thing you have to know is how to keep time
what he called which keeps the beat, keeping the catenance
of a song. And everything just spun off from there.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
So you're you're you're a musician too, well, I used
to be. Now it's supposed to be like falling off
of a bike.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Well, I still can play, but because music has progressed
so much since the seventies and eighties when we used
to play. But I can dip and dabble with the keyboard,
the harmonica, and some with the steel guitar. But my
and drums. Dad was a drummer, and I can hold
my own, you know, a regular beat, but I tribute

(14:29):
all that to him, but I don't do a whole
lot of that.

Speaker 1 (14:31):
Sounds like you're letting the young people handle.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
It exactly, exactly, exactly, exactly with the trends of music.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
Now, yeah, yeah, that's amazing. So music is a good
part of your legacy as.

Speaker 2 (14:41):
Well, I would say, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Speaker 1 (14:44):
So in what way do you see yourself carrying forward
your family's spiritual and I guess musical legacy.

Speaker 2 (14:51):
Well, I don't know a whole lot about musical but
with the spiritual legacy, as you first stated, my father
he was the vice president for the Churches of the
Living God before he passed, yes, maybe for the past
eight years. Prior to that, I think he did pastor

(15:14):
church for about forty years, so before he retired. Also
he was the president for the national organization. But also
he has a district, which in the Churches of the
Living God is called dioceses that he supervised eight churches
that somewhere in Michigan and somewhere in Illinois and somewhere

(15:35):
in Ohio. And so when he trends before he transitioned.
It was his desire to have his successor, which was
me at the time, be consecrated as a bishop. Had
to go through numerous of classes and interviews and things.
It's like a two year process, and so I give
him credit for that for looking into the future. This

(15:57):
was long before he became sick. When he did transition,
everything was set in place for me to take over.
Wasn't my initial desire to do anything like that, but
I wanted to keep up the legacy that he's left
because I do have a heart for churches and have
a heart for pastors. So I'm not so much for

(16:18):
the title, but just having a heart to help people out.

Speaker 1 (16:21):
So actually overseeing, not just taking a title exactly exactly
exactly which does happen.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, yeah, I think we all know that.

Speaker 1 (16:30):
So Victory Life Christian Worship Center, worship center and community outreach.
Can you tell us more about the mission and outreaching
and initiatives of Victory Life Worship.

Speaker 2 (16:42):
Yes. Our main concern is to minister as many people
as we can so that there'll be spiritually whole, but
at the same time we try to meet the physicality
needs of people. We have initiatives that we're putting into
place to help young mothers, single parents, initiatives in place

(17:06):
that we are have to help the people that are
on drugs and for people that do have mental illnesses.
We yes, we believe in church, but there's a whole
ministry beyond the four walls of the church, the homeless,
the children that are going through so many terrible things

(17:27):
at this time. And so that's where my focus is.
That yes, we have awesome worship, awesome services, but I
believe that when Jesus was here on this earth, his
church was outside of the four walls, and that's where
my focus tend to be, outside of the four walls.
And also I'm trying to implement that same message to
the churches that I supervised that our mission is beyond

(17:50):
the four walls, So to duplicate that effort, spread it
up exactly, exactly, awesome, exactly.

Speaker 1 (17:55):
Any challenges that you you you've faced in ministry over
the years.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
I guess the major challenge for me as well as
other leaders, that's just recruiting volunteers to have the same
heart and passion that the leader has. God has blessed
us with an awesome congregation. But as I said earlier
that when we work beyond the four walls, we need
as much help as we can get. God has blessed

(18:23):
us financially, so that's that's not an issue right now.
Just recruiting committed volunteers. That's been probably the challenge throughout
my tenure of my ministry.

Speaker 1 (18:34):
Something just popped in my mind, I want to walk back.
That means go back, okay to the firefighting, and you
don't have to share if it's not not comfortable for
you to do so. But what was probably the most positive,
I'll go positive, positively memorable experience you ever had in firefighting.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
That's a very good question because most of the runs
that we come on it it comes out a lot
of 'em come up with a positive uh ending. Probably
one of the most positive ones is that we walk
into a house and we can see that there's no furniture,

(19:17):
there's nothing there around Christmas time mm and uh have
little children there, And probably one of the most rewarding
things that I've experienced as my captain going back to
the house on his day off and say, I wanna
supply you guys with Christmas gifts, Oh wow, and furniture

(19:39):
and uh s he I found out that he did it,
and I got on board to help him out to
do that. But he did the majority of the of
that up. There are a lot of stories that you
don't hear uh about the positive things that firefighters do.
That's probably one of the most rewarding, uh not to
uh down play of the life saving things that we've done.
I think my first life says event there was a

(20:01):
young kid about five years old trapped in a burning
trailer house trailer and we found him and got him
out and he's still living to this day and that's
been over thirty thirty five years ago. That was pretty
rewarding too. And again many times that we've brought back

(20:22):
people whose heart have stopped through CPR, I think to
Little Fire and it was given through one of the
national ratings that we had a high rating of bringing
people back that we do CPR, I mean throughout the
whole country. So we do have. There are good initiatives
that are in place and procedures that we do, and
we're very aggressive when it comes well throughout the whole job.

(20:44):
When it comes to someone down, we're on top of it.
So that's rewarding as well.

Speaker 1 (20:48):
Awesome and the flip side of that if you're able.
Probably I won't say the most dramatic because I don't
want to bring up anything dramatic, but well, I guess, so, well,
what what was the worst experience you've ever had that
you can share?

Speaker 2 (21:04):
Yeah, the worst experience I had, I've have had. You
can see the burned bodies and uh a lot of blood.
But probably one of the most traumatic UH ones that
I experienced was early in my career, we respond to
h a boy that was unconscious. He was eight years old,
and UH we we worked him, but he was cold.

(21:28):
What we did not know that he was a victim
of child abuse MM and I had to testify at
UH at the trial of his accused and seeing the
autopsy photos just brought me memory of my son because
my son was eight years old at the time, and
almost broke down on the stand because of seeing that exchange.

(21:52):
UH of seeing the picture I could I could see
my son the same thing. The second thing, UH that
was most traumatic is when we lost to f firefighters
in twenty fourteen. That was very traumatic, and I guess
to add to that trauma, I had just lost my
twenty nine year old son with the pulmonary embolism just

(22:12):
a week before that.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
That was the same sun that you were referring to.

Speaker 2 (22:15):
Yeah, same son. I was firm for years down the road. Yeah,
years down the road. Yeah. In fact, we were at
his wake on a Sunday evening and my crew come
in to visit, you know, with the family and the wake,
and they said, well, we can't stay long because we
just had two fatalities. That was probably one of the
worst days of my life. Wow.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
Wow, have you ever been hurt?

Speaker 2 (22:37):
Many times?

Speaker 1 (22:38):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (22:40):
Quick, yess, nothing super serious. I remember in my career,
early in the career, going through stairwell, standing on it,
through it, well, yeah, it collapsed. It fell through. The
next thing I knew, I was in the basement. That
happened twice.

Speaker 1 (22:59):
Wow. Yeah, because of the fire.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Because because because of the fire and the fire had
weakened the stairs, and me being a rookie, I didn't
know there's a probably a certain position I should have
been on the stairs. Ended up in the basement. That
occurred twice. I had a ceiling that collapsed on me,
and probably one of the latest ones I ended up

(23:21):
falling down a set of stairs because of the building
was so full of smoke, but nothing seriously, nothing serious.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
That sounds pretty serious. But you survived.

Speaker 2 (23:34):
Yes, Yes, I survived, and I'm thankful for that because
there are a lot of people that come along with
me they didn't survive. Wow.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Wow, that was interesting. It sounds like you have a book.

Speaker 2 (23:47):
In you maybe so yeah, maybe so yeah.

Speaker 1 (23:51):
Faith in community building, I guess, leading from your service
as a firefighter into your faith and into the community.
It seems like there's been a lot of opportunities, especially
coming out of COVID, to refashion the church to be
of service, which you've kind of covered already. What have
you seen the experience that we had these last four

(24:14):
or five years roughly that have affected your ministry in
a positive way?

Speaker 2 (24:20):
I want to answer that question, but in the age
that I am now, certain things leave me. In the introduction,
I forgot to mention my wife, my wife of forty
three years, and was so happy we're still together and
doing well and doing fine. So I wanted to get
her and give her a shout out. Cheryl Sherman, I
love you and it's been a real good trip.

Speaker 1 (24:40):
Is she retired as well?

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, she's just retired with Toledo Public schools after thirty
six years or thirty three years. She had thirty six
years in administration as a special funding officer there with
the toelto public schools. But to answer your question about ministry,
it has transcended a lot as it opposed to. Once
COVID came, people just didn't have a desire to go

(25:04):
to a physical brick and mortar church as it used to,
as you will know, so it almost forced us to
change our ministry to what we're online. Our online presence
is very important in these days in time and keeping
in mind that we can still share the gospel, but

(25:24):
we're kind of doing it online rather than the physical building.

Speaker 1 (25:28):
Essentially, So were you online before COVID?

Speaker 2 (25:31):
No, No, we weren't online before COVID yet wow. And
so I think this is the way that ministry is
going forward because our millennials they do everything on their phones.
Everything is a computer and so social media ex social media.
So the message that that change is just the methodology.

Speaker 1 (25:49):
Understand the message. So how are you enjoying that? I
believe it or not?

Speaker 2 (25:54):
I enjoy it. I enjoy it, Yes, I enjoyed. It
forces you to be more of what you say, and
how you said, because you open yourself up to a
water wider, broad audience than you did have before. So
I enjoyed.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
So it sounds like a positive change.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
It is. It is a positive change. I would say,
I much would rather have the people in the physical building,
and they're slowly coming back. They're slowly coming back, and
we're having the opportunity to reach other new people as well.
And whatever God originates, God bless us. So God has
continue to bless the ministry.

Speaker 1 (26:30):
Well what the devilment for you? Last, but not least,
And we truly thank you for coming in to the
voices of legacy today, voices around us, initiative and sharing
your life. I think testimony is truly a blessing to
those that here, and I think this is going to

(26:51):
bless a lot of people that wouldn't have heard it
any other way. Looking back on your career ministry, in
the moments, in the accomplishments, in the great legacy, as
you look towards the future, what are your hopes for
your church, victory life in the churches of the Living
God and the legacy that you wish to leave behind.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Very good question, and I would answer that with succession
I've been a pastior here at Victory Life for twenty
five years and I'm always preparing for the next. So
moving forward, it's my extreme desire is to prepare a
next leader or prepare a next successor. As we all

(27:36):
know that Moses he had a successor as well, and
it kind of set a format. I think that we're
ministry and any business, you should always prepare a next
So we'll try to be effective as we can in
the now, but at the same time also keeping as

(27:57):
a priority of providing next big cause. As we know
that if God does not come back to earth, for
which we believe that he will, if he doesn't do
it for another ten or twenty thirty years, there has
to be a successor to keep the ministry going. So
keep it going exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:14):
That's the legacy.

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Exactly.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Awesome, Awesome. Well again, we thank you for joining us
for the voices of legacy. Thank you for remembering to
say something about your wife. So yes, you can go
home now, yes and be safe, and all of your
work in the community, as well as the legacy that
you've left even in the fire. I think we've had
one other firefighter on here recently, but in the Fire

(28:39):
Department locally. We hope and pray that you have many
more years ahead of you and the message that you
share today will be a blessing to someone. Thank you

(29:03):
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I’m Jay Shetty host of On Purpose the worlds #1 Mental Health podcast and I’m so grateful you found us. I started this podcast 5 years ago to invite you into conversations and workshops that are designed to help make you happier, healthier and more healed. I believe that when you (yes you) feel seen, heard and understood you’re able to deal with relationship struggles, work challenges and life’s ups and downs with more ease and grace. I interview experts, celebrities, thought leaders and athletes so that we can grow our mindset, build better habits and uncover a side of them we’ve never seen before. New episodes every Monday and Friday. Your support means the world to me and I don’t take it for granted — click the follow button and leave a review to help us spread the love with On Purpose. I can’t wait for you to listen to your first or 500th episode!

Cardiac Cowboys

Cardiac Cowboys

The heart was always off-limits to surgeons. Cutting into it spelled instant death for the patient. That is, until a ragtag group of doctors scattered across the Midwest and Texas decided to throw out the rule book. Working in makeshift laboratories and home garages, using medical devices made from scavenged machine parts and beer tubes, these men and women invented the field of open heart surgery. Odds are, someone you know is alive because of them. So why has history left them behind? Presented by Chris Pine, CARDIAC COWBOYS tells the gripping true story behind the birth of heart surgery, and the young, Greatest Generation doctors who made it happen. For years, they competed and feuded, racing to be the first, the best, and the most prolific. Some appeared on the cover of Time Magazine, operated on kings and advised presidents. Others ended up disgraced, penniless, and convicted of felonies. Together, they ignited a revolution in medicine, and changed the world.

Crime Junkie

Crime Junkie

Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.

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