September 18, 2025 • 36 mins
In this inspiring episode of Voices of Legacy, Pastor Carl welcomes Pastor Greg Young, host of Chosen Generation Radio and former voice of A Dose of the Ghost holy hip-hop radio. Pastor Young shares his powerful testimony of overcoming life-threatening health challenges and surviving a devastating automobile accident that should have ended his life. Through it all, his unwavering faith and commitment to spreading the Gospel shine as a legacy of resilience, purpose, and hope for generations to come.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to the Voices of a legacy where you're writing
your legacy every day that you live. Today, I have
a special treat for you, because I call them friend
but living legend. Once again, here on the Voices of Legacy,
none other than Pastor Greg Young, host of Chosen Generation
Radio for many years in syndication across these United States,
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and formally the host of A Dose of the Ghosts.
We're going to talk about that, as well as many
many other things India Ministry, his miraculous recovery to date
on the Voices of Legacy. Good morning, Pastor Greg, afternoon
or whenever you're.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Listen, morning Carl. It's great to be with you, Pastor Carl.
Thanks for having me on Voices of Legacy. This is exciting, Yes, it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Is, it very much is. I'm thankful to get opportunity
to allow you to share your story here on WGT
Public Media. But nevertheless, tell us more about you.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Sure, absolutely, Well. Let's see where should I begin. I've
been married now for going on thirty nine years. I'm
the father of five, all grown. Our youngest is eighteen.
He is a special needs child. We have three that
are married, and we have four grandchildren. And a fifth
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grandchild on the way. And I was involved in a
catastrophic accident where I died four times, came back from
death four times. We'll talk about that here in in
a little bit. I've done business nationally and internationally, and
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I've also done radio and and and broadcast on a
on a national platform as as you mentioned. Had the
one of the highlights for me was an opportunity to
do a very personal interview with doctor James Dobson. But
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I've also in my with my Dose of the Ghost program.
When Sylvester Stallone came out with his last Rockie, I
did an interview with his brother, Frank Stallone. Let's see.
I've also done some pretty heavy hitting interviews in the
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hip hop and holy hip hop community.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
WHOA, that's pretty diverse. But what what's been your most
challenging against on your broadcast.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I apologize I don't remember the the the individual's name specifically,
but they they were. They came on uh in a
in a manner of pretending to be one thing and
uh and and during the course of our conversation, they
they were something entirely different and uh and and they
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were they were just saying things that were just outright
untrue and and and inaccurate and uh and and as
as a shepherd, and as someone who who believes strongly
in in in protecting one's flock, as it were, I
felt strongly they need to uh to call the situation
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out and uh and and and have a discourse about it, which,
of course, when when one exposes someone who is being untruthful,
they tend not to like that. Yes, and it was
that live, Yeah, it actually was. It was live. And
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it's one of the very few times I've had wonderful
conversations on my Children Generation radio show with individuals that
we were not in absolute one hundred percent agreement, but
that were very respectful. And this particular conversation crossed those boundaries,
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across those lines coming in from his side, and I
put a stop to it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Wow, Wow, that had he interesting. As we're talking about
your broadcast career, where did the name Chosen Generation come from?
What inspired you to utilize that name for your national broadcast?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, Chosen Generation, of course, it's found in First Peter
two nine and ten. You're a chosen generation, a royal priestood,
a holy nation, So it's genesis. I suppose would be
located there, but really on the deeper level. It was
really because of my deeper garden respect for George Barna,
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who also made a number of appearances on the program
over the years, and we broke a lot of his
new polls that he did. He was an incredibly talented
and gifted pollster. And so George had the term a
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biblical worldview, and a biblical worldview was something that I
valued greatly because I believe that a biblical worldview values
every individual and every person, It values life, It gives
value irrespective of any you know, racial characteristic. In fact,
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my my perspective from a biblical worldview is is that
there is no race. There's one race, and it's mankind.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Human race.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, and and so then then the question becomes who
gives mankind their greatest degree of value? And I believe
Scripture speaks to that when when he says you are
fearfully and wonderfully made, and that your soul, and that's
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your mind, will and emotions, that your soul. So it
is written into your soulish Dna that you have great
value because our creator, God Almighty wrote that in And
I find that to be very comforting. I find that
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to be very encouraging. I find that that for someone
who may may have been told something of the alternative,
or grown up in a society or a culture that
led them to believe that they were less than to
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know that there is one whose opinion cannot be altered
by man, cannot be changed by by any crowd input,
is not up for a vote, but has decided that
that you have great value. And then I mean we
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can go into you know, how that value is been
tarnished and how that value is restored.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Wow. Well, I guess that would lead then to have
you ever done anything outside of ministry in broadcast? And
it's kind of similar to the first question, when did
you first since the calling of that or the calling
as it were, on your life for ministry on media platform?
So have you ever done anything outside of Christian media
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in a secular realm in broadcasting? And when did you
get the call to transition into ministry utilizing the platforms
that you had available to you.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, the answer to the first question did I ever
do anything outside of ministry? And really it was outside
of ministry and outside of broadcasting, And the answer to
that is yes, I owned and managed restaurants in Florida
and managed restaurants in Texas and in California. And then
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I moved into the collections business and subrogation in particular,
working with credit card companies, car rental companies, and insurance
companies on both a domestic and an international basis, and
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grew my company significantly until really what wiped us out
was nine to eleven. The nine to eleven at that
time many might remember obviously there was a massive loss
loss of life, but also a tremendous loss to our
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nation and in the attack that was done to our country.
But in addition to that, the airlines are the only
ones in the travel industry they got any kind of
a bailout, and so my car rental clients all ended up, well,
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all but one ended up going through bankruptcies, and so
their bankruptcies impacted my placements and I lost over sixty
percent of my business inside of one hundred and twenty
days as far as placements were concerned, and things just
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really escalated. In addition to that, I was involved in
three different projects at the time, and I had about
two hundred and ten thousand dollars in cash outlays in
those three projects. One of them was with GES Reinsurance division.
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I'd put about seventy thousand dollars into a project, getting
an office set up and personnel and infrastructure and so on.
And when nine to eleven hit, they took a two
billion dollar hit on those towers, and so they had
to pull their business. And when they did, that was
quite devastating. I had someone who was involved in a
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lot of fraud that had I had. I had hired
them to work in my private investigation division, and they
they turned out to be rather than being someone who
was trying to rehabilitate, they were continuing on in their fraud.
A little a side note, interestingly, one of their friends
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was the uncle of Cole Hauser. Cole Hauser, who of
course today is famous for the character rip on Yellowstone.
And then the final the final one was something having
to do in the segregation industry. And so at any rate,
all of that combined to my having to lay off
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sixty five employees, and that really beg and some of
my journey that helped to save my life in twenty
seventeen because my health failed as a result. I'm sure
of a lot of the stress I ended up getting paracarditis,
which is swelling around the lining of the heart. That
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then turned into I had to have umbilical hernia surgery,
that I had to have gallbladder surgery that turned into
a liver infection that led to shingles. Then after I
had the shingles, I ended up with pneumonia and then
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that turned into pleurisy. And so within a period of
about six to eight months, my entire endocrine system collapsed.
My pituitary gland and my adrenal gland stopped functioning.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And well, I'm talking to you, not a ghost as
far as I know. Yeah, that sounds like that should
be fatal.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, I was given three to six months to live,
Pastor Carl, they gave me three to six months to live.
I went to six different internists and specialists and endocrinologists
and they said, I'm We're so sorry. The last group
of nurses that I saw that were in the office
where the last doctor was that I saw, were just
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crying as I left, because he said, you you've got
about three to six months. I was gray and yellow
and whitish kind of but not not white man whitish,
like chalky white, and bloated, and and and really sent
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home to die. And so as I was.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Process that experience, your wife and your.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Kids, well, the business had had finally closed. I had
to shut the business down. I had about two and
a half million dollars in life insurance, you know, not
not two years before nine to eleven and all of
this happened. My net worth was about five million dollars.
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And I went from a net worth of five million
to a net worth of zero, which was pretty devastating economically.
But then to have your health turned upside down. And
I'll tell you and to folks that are out there
that might be dealing with very dark moments and dark situations,
I get it. I really really do get it. I could.
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I could see people smile, I could see people laugh,
I could I could see people trying to be kind,
But none of those feelings or emotions touched me. I
couldn't get there. I was completely and totally numbed.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Both both you were maybe battling depression in that time.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh, I would say that there's no question that I
was battling depression, But but really am I I was?
I was battling depression and I was and I was
battling just absolutely being shut down on every level. And
I really reached a place of just you know, saying
to the Lord. And I wasn't upset, I wasn't mad,
(15:23):
I wasn't any of those things. I was just at
the place of saying, Lord, if if I'm done, if
if you have said it's over and you're calling me home, uh,
there's two and a half million dollars in life insurance,
and and if if you know, I was not suicidal
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in that respect. I was just prepared that if God said,
you know, the next breath is your last, I was.
I was ready in that respect, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Good with being done with it all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And so as a result of the dose of the
Ghost radio show, which was a holy hip hop radio
show with a three to five minute message on each
side of the other of the half hour that had
been syndicated and through Zeo Radio Networks out of Colorado,
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and as a result of that, I had been invited
and was engaging as a co host on a Christian
television program called The Eleventh Hour, which aired out of Sacramento, California.
It was recorded in Modesto, California. It was actually a
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recorded in a studio that had been owned by Chester Smith,
who performed with Merle Haggard and so Chester when he
sold the studio to Telemundo told them that as a
as a part of the sale, you will maintain studio
space for the eleventh hour television program for so long
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as you have it and for so long as they
continue to produce a program. And so, as I was
lying on my bed, dying in my bedroom, I heard
the Holy Spirit. And I know for some that may
be difficult to understand, but it was my experience and
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it was I needed to go and see Sandy Swanson,
the executive producer of the show. And so I got
up to do that. And as I'm trying to get up,
my wife, who we had four children at the time,
two in preschool and two in school, and she said, Honey,
where are you going? And I said, well, I've got
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to go over to the studio, to the TV studio.
And she said, how are you even going to get there?
You can't even drive. I don't know, but I'm going.
And so I went over there met with Sandy. She
referred me to a natural path and I started on
natural pathic medicine, including bovine stem cell intervention in including
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just a variety of things detoxes and so on, got
involved in deliverance ministry through that that I'm still involved
with today, and didn't get healed. But what I did
get was is I got to a place where I
turned the clock on not dying and I stayed alive.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You gained purpose even in your sickness.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, I did, because one of the messages that I
felt like I was given at that time was not
just the message of the cross, but really more the
message of the garden to guesssemine, which which is where
Jesus faced his his most significant battle. I believe uh
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to the point that he was Uh had blood pouring
out of him, and he said, you know, if this
cup can pass, UH, let it pass, but not my will,
but thy will be done.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It sounds sounds like you got your answer.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well and and and so I I really entered into
that place. And and you know again, for those today
that may be going through a really difficult and challenging
and dark time, I just encourage you to know that
that that Jesus gets it, He really really gets it,
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and he'll sit with you in that garden to guest
seventy for as long as it takes, it's for for
for for you to be ready to be able to
walk out, and he'll walk it out with you. And
and so we did. And I started on a protocol
that I took four times a day to try to
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help support my adrenals of my pituitary gland. I had
multiple tests that were done when I got here to Texas.
One of them was with a chiropractor who looked at
my meridian time clock of where my body was. He
was going to try to help me, and he looked
at it, and he said when I came back to him,
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and interestingly, his parents were the ones who were murdered
at the Loubies by a gunman. There was a very
famous case here in Texas because it led to Texas
passing legislation that allows people to be able to carry
to protect themselves against another incident like that ever happening again.
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But anyway, doctor Gresia came back with the results. He said,
in thirty five years, I have never ever before seen
someone in your condition. He said, honestly, I don't know
how you're standing in front of me. I don't know
how you're here in my office. I don't know how
you're not lying in bed somewhere, Because the way this
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works is is that the big hand's supposed to be
on the twelve and the little hand on the three.
Your hands are inverted. Your little hand is two minutes
to the twelve and your big hand is two minutes
to the three. And once they've fully inverted, you're dead.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So flash forward to twenty seventeen. I'm doing now this
Chosen Generation radio program. My daughter Jackie, one of my daughters,
is driving forming on that particular day, she's on her
learner's permit, and a gentleman in a truck pulls across
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the highway in front of us and stops. He was
an older man who was confused. He'd just come out
of the doctor's office and pulled across and stopped in
front of us, And so there was nowhere to go.
There was an eighteen wheeler coming up. It was a
two lane road eighteen wheeler coming up over the other side,
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over this little embankment, and so she turned the wheel
so as not to t bone him. She hit the
passenger driver's door with such force that it actually knocked
the cab off the frame by a foot and a half.
We impacted it fifty five miles per hour. Everything slowed
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down in the cab. I dove from the passenger seat
to the driver's seat because I heard the Holy Spirit
say Jackie and seat belt, and I knew I had
to get over to become her airbag and protector. And
just as I was diving, two out of the back
of the truck came crashing through the windshield and I
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was knocking down tools with my hands and then ultimately
blocking those tools from hitting her with the rest of
my body.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Wow, I broke after your initial help incident, you got
a horrific automobile accident.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yes, after thirteen years of just surviving, which I did
you know? I just I was really just surviving day
to day. I ended up in intensive care at University
Hospital in San Antonio, Texas, on life support with a
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tube in my nose and a tube in my mouth,
on a breathing machine and other apparatus is keeping me
alive for six weeks, and I had seventeen surgery over
the course of five days. I died three more times.
I had died at the scene of the accident, and
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uh and I ended up as as going through I
de gloved my face. I broke my left orbital.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Skin was pretty much removed from the muscle connection of
the bone.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yes, my my my skin and and muscle and everything
on my face and my and the top of my
head all the way back behind my ears. I was
fully disengaged from the skull.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Holy moly, uh.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I broke the base of my skull on both sides.
I broke my neck at C three, front and back.
I broke my back in three places between T and
T one. I then broke both hands and both wrists.
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I broke my right rib cage. I broke my pelvis,
my hip, my femur, my tibia, and my fibula on
my left leg, and had to have rods put in
and screws to reattach and fix my hip, and a
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rod in my femur and a rod in my tibia
on my left leg. And they said, mister young, that's
your good leg. And that's because I crushed the bottom
of my right knee so severely there wasn't enough knee
left to do a knee replacement. I crushed and destroyed
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the top of the tibia, which required them to put
a plate attached to the side of the tibia, and
then long screws across the top of the tibia in
order to put the tibia back together. And that still
wasn't enough. They had to use bone glue. I severed
all the nerves below my right knee, and I severed
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the main artery. And if I hadn't crushed that main artery,
I would have bled out on scene.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Wow. So you're really a miracle.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yes, sir. And then on top of that, because of
the severity of the damage to my right leg and
the lower right leg, I had what they called compartmental
strokes that were going on. So they had to open
up my right leg and they had to do what's
called a fasciotomy, and mine was extreme, so they actually
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did a double fasciotomy, meaning they cut open both the
inside and the outside of my lower leg in order
to release the pressure so that I didn't die of
a compartmental stroke. Wow. Now, one of the things that
that I did during that time, uh was was spiritual warfare,
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and my family and I prayed against the spirit of
death and I really believe that, and and the prayers
of thousands because at the time my radio program had
been syndicated and I was on about one hundred stations
across the country.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh well, so you had following at that point.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yes, yes, I sure did. And we did VINEO like
rush so so I so it streamed online. And plus
the fact that I had all this audience that was
listening across the country, and and I'm very grateful for that,
and uh and and that two years later turned into
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an opportunity or an invitation, I should say, uh, to
be sharing this testimony in the remotest parts of India.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So pretty much every time you had a challenge, that
challenge led you into another level of ministering and sharing
your testimony.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
It sounds like it, really, honestly it did. With each challenge,
and with with each you know what would appear to
be setbacks. And I'm not suggesting that they weren't challenging
and weren't setbacks, But with each one of those came
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an opportunity to be able to present and have an impact.
And through all of this, it should be noted too
that I was learning about faith. I was learning about
faith that persevered. I remember very distinctly one time sharing
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a sermon about that. At that point, my wife and
I had been married eleven years and we'd had to
move sixteen times, wow, across three states and six cities,
all because of different employment situations. That was before I
started my own company, started my own business.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And yet you're still here, and yet you're still broadcasting.
So all that led to I guess your current iteration
of chosen Generation the ministry and broadcast your international ministry.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It really has. It has led to us now having
over the course of the last six years this impact.
We've planted twenty two hundred churches. We've put in sixty
five freshwater wells. We've established five sewing schools for widows
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and six literacy schools. We do a feeding program every
month where we feed about fifty to sixty widows and
their children. All of this is in the most northern
part of India.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Oh well, so it is the international Ministry that you're speaking.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Of, Yes, sir, Yes, it is. It is in the
most northern part and in the poorest of the poor
communities throughout Punjab, India, which is a very Punjab, Jamu
and Kashmir throughout those parts of the world.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So if you were to give advice to and this
is general because everybody's circumstances differently. As a matter of fact,
we've kind of come to know each other and sharing
our individual testimonies because we both had traumatic situations physically.
But to give suggestion to anyone that's going through in
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their life that would be practical, whether they have faith
or not, because something you mentioned they'd stuck with me
is even in your Indian ministry, a lot of the
people that you're talking to aren't necessarily Christians or of faith,
but your testimony is a blessing to them anyhow.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Well, absolutely, because I I think what what the what
the message is and and and what it what it
says is is that you know, we are having an
opportunity to be able to make a difference in in
someone's life, Yes, and and to and to give them hope.
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One one of the greatest challenges for those in in
India is is they feel hopeless. They they feel as
though there there is no hope. And unfortunately they have
a caste system that is very foreign to us here
in the Western world. But the caste stem basically says
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that if you're born in the lower cast number one,
you're born there because it's a punishment by God, God
is punishing you.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Number two, it says that you are you are placed
in that in that position because you you are, you're gosh,
you're you're, you're, you're basically without, without purpose in life.
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And and so because you are told that you are without,
you know this purpose and that every bad thing that
happens to you happens to you as some form of punishment.
Imagine how hopeless you might be or might feel if
that was your lot in life.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, I'd say it's probably people here, even in the States,
that maybe able to relate to that description feeling hopeless.
And even for our listeners today who may be feeling
like giving up, whether due to health or personal or
spiritual battles, what final words of hope would you share
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with them?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I would hope that my story and what has has
gone on in my life. Number One, I never minimize.
Romans tells us we weep with those that weep, and
we rejoice with those that rejoice. So I don't minimize
someone else's challengers or someone else's issues that they're going through.
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But what I do want them to know is is
that I absolutely firmly believe and am a living testimony that.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
There is hope and that there is How can people
connect with you and your ministry?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, the best way to connect with us is really
through the website Chosen General Radio dot com. You can
email me through that as well.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Awesome, awesome, awesome. Normally I would ask, because you already
answered this question, what do you think your legacy isn't
what would you like for it to be? But I'd
say it's one of endurance, not giving up, keeping on,
pressing on no matter what, and seeing the challenges as
just that they're just simply challenges. You're going to get
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to tomorrow until God says you're no more, and that's
the blessing of life. As you said, we take on
our brother and our sister's burdens at never a discount
how they feel or what they're going through. But encourage,
continue to encourage, and i'd say to the past break,
continue to be encouraged. We thank God for you joining us,
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for the voices of legacy and sharing the testimony of
your life. And who knows, hopefully the next great thing
doesn't come with a great tragedy. We pray at this point,
but we're we're so thankful for you sharing your story.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Thank you, Pastor Carl, thank you for letting me be
a part of Voices of Legacy. And God bless everyone
that is listening to our program. God bless you.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Thank you for listening to the Voices of Legacy. This
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Have a blessed
Speaker 2 (36:29):
W g t E Voices around us.
Welcome to the Voices of a legacy where you're writing
your legacy every day that you live. Today, I have
a special treat for you, because I call them friend
but living legend. Once again, here on the Voices of Legacy,
none other than Pastor Greg Young, host of Chosen Generation
Radio for many years in syndication across these United States,
(00:45):
and formally the host of A Dose of the Ghosts.
We're going to talk about that, as well as many
many other things India Ministry, his miraculous recovery to date
on the Voices of Legacy. Good morning, Pastor Greg, afternoon
or whenever you're.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Listen, morning Carl. It's great to be with you, Pastor Carl.
Thanks for having me on Voices of Legacy. This is exciting, Yes, it.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
Is, it very much is. I'm thankful to get opportunity
to allow you to share your story here on WGT
Public Media. But nevertheless, tell us more about you.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Sure, absolutely, Well. Let's see where should I begin. I've
been married now for going on thirty nine years. I'm
the father of five, all grown. Our youngest is eighteen.
He is a special needs child. We have three that
are married, and we have four grandchildren. And a fifth
(01:48):
grandchild on the way. And I was involved in a
catastrophic accident where I died four times, came back from
death four times. We'll talk about that here in in
a little bit. I've done business nationally and internationally, and
(02:09):
I've also done radio and and and broadcast on a
on a national platform as as you mentioned. Had the
one of the highlights for me was an opportunity to
do a very personal interview with doctor James Dobson. But
(02:33):
I've also in my with my Dose of the Ghost program.
When Sylvester Stallone came out with his last Rockie, I
did an interview with his brother, Frank Stallone. Let's see.
I've also done some pretty heavy hitting interviews in the
(02:58):
hip hop and holy hip hop community.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
WHOA, that's pretty diverse. But what what's been your most
challenging against on your broadcast.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
I apologize I don't remember the the the individual's name specifically,
but they they were. They came on uh in a
in a manner of pretending to be one thing and
uh and and during the course of our conversation, they
they were something entirely different and uh and and they
(03:33):
were they were just saying things that were just outright
untrue and and and inaccurate and uh and and as
as a shepherd, and as someone who who believes strongly
in in in protecting one's flock, as it were, I
felt strongly they need to uh to call the situation
(03:57):
out and uh and and and have a discourse about it, which,
of course, when when one exposes someone who is being untruthful,
they tend not to like that. Yes, and it was
that live, Yeah, it actually was. It was live. And
(04:19):
it's one of the very few times I've had wonderful
conversations on my Children Generation radio show with individuals that
we were not in absolute one hundred percent agreement, but
that were very respectful. And this particular conversation crossed those boundaries,
(04:41):
across those lines coming in from his side, and I
put a stop to it.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Wow, Wow, that had he interesting. As we're talking about
your broadcast career, where did the name Chosen Generation come from?
What inspired you to utilize that name for your national broadcast?
Speaker 2 (05:03):
Well, Chosen Generation, of course, it's found in First Peter
two nine and ten. You're a chosen generation, a royal priestood,
a holy nation, So it's genesis. I suppose would be
located there, but really on the deeper level. It was
really because of my deeper garden respect for George Barna,
(05:29):
who also made a number of appearances on the program
over the years, and we broke a lot of his
new polls that he did. He was an incredibly talented
and gifted pollster. And so George had the term a
(05:51):
biblical worldview, and a biblical worldview was something that I
valued greatly because I believe that a biblical worldview values
every individual and every person, It values life, It gives
value irrespective of any you know, racial characteristic. In fact,
(06:18):
my my perspective from a biblical worldview is is that
there is no race. There's one race, and it's mankind.
That's it.
Speaker 1 (06:26):
Human race.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Yes, and and so then then the question becomes who
gives mankind their greatest degree of value? And I believe
Scripture speaks to that when when he says you are
fearfully and wonderfully made, and that your soul, and that's
(06:49):
your mind, will and emotions, that your soul. So it
is written into your soulish Dna that you have great
value because our creator, God Almighty wrote that in And
I find that to be very comforting. I find that
(07:10):
to be very encouraging. I find that that for someone
who may may have been told something of the alternative,
or grown up in a society or a culture that
led them to believe that they were less than to
(07:32):
know that there is one whose opinion cannot be altered
by man, cannot be changed by by any crowd input,
is not up for a vote, but has decided that
that you have great value. And then I mean we
(07:52):
can go into you know, how that value is been
tarnished and how that value is restored.
Speaker 1 (07:59):
Wow. Well, I guess that would lead then to have
you ever done anything outside of ministry in broadcast? And
it's kind of similar to the first question, when did
you first since the calling of that or the calling
as it were, on your life for ministry on media platform?
So have you ever done anything outside of Christian media
(08:24):
in a secular realm in broadcasting? And when did you
get the call to transition into ministry utilizing the platforms
that you had available to you.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Well, the answer to the first question did I ever
do anything outside of ministry? And really it was outside
of ministry and outside of broadcasting, And the answer to
that is yes, I owned and managed restaurants in Florida
and managed restaurants in Texas and in California. And then
(09:00):
I moved into the collections business and subrogation in particular,
working with credit card companies, car rental companies, and insurance
companies on both a domestic and an international basis, and
(09:21):
grew my company significantly until really what wiped us out
was nine to eleven. The nine to eleven at that
time many might remember obviously there was a massive loss
loss of life, but also a tremendous loss to our
(09:45):
nation and in the attack that was done to our country.
But in addition to that, the airlines are the only
ones in the travel industry they got any kind of
a bailout, and so my car rental clients all ended up, well,
(10:05):
all but one ended up going through bankruptcies, and so
their bankruptcies impacted my placements and I lost over sixty
percent of my business inside of one hundred and twenty
days as far as placements were concerned, and things just
(10:26):
really escalated. In addition to that, I was involved in
three different projects at the time, and I had about
two hundred and ten thousand dollars in cash outlays in
those three projects. One of them was with GES Reinsurance division.
(10:47):
I'd put about seventy thousand dollars into a project, getting
an office set up and personnel and infrastructure and so on.
And when nine to eleven hit, they took a two
billion dollar hit on those towers, and so they had
to pull their business. And when they did, that was
quite devastating. I had someone who was involved in a
(11:13):
lot of fraud that had I had. I had hired
them to work in my private investigation division, and they
they turned out to be rather than being someone who
was trying to rehabilitate, they were continuing on in their fraud.
A little a side note, interestingly, one of their friends
(11:36):
was the uncle of Cole Hauser. Cole Hauser, who of
course today is famous for the character rip on Yellowstone.
And then the final the final one was something having
to do in the segregation industry. And so at any rate,
all of that combined to my having to lay off
(11:57):
sixty five employees, and that really beg and some of
my journey that helped to save my life in twenty
seventeen because my health failed as a result. I'm sure
of a lot of the stress I ended up getting paracarditis,
which is swelling around the lining of the heart. That
(12:19):
then turned into I had to have umbilical hernia surgery,
that I had to have gallbladder surgery that turned into
a liver infection that led to shingles. Then after I
had the shingles, I ended up with pneumonia and then
(12:40):
that turned into pleurisy. And so within a period of
about six to eight months, my entire endocrine system collapsed.
My pituitary gland and my adrenal gland stopped functioning.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
And well, I'm talking to you, not a ghost as
far as I know. Yeah, that sounds like that should
be fatal.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
Well, I was given three to six months to live,
Pastor Carl, they gave me three to six months to live.
I went to six different internists and specialists and endocrinologists
and they said, I'm We're so sorry. The last group
of nurses that I saw that were in the office
where the last doctor was that I saw, were just
(13:26):
crying as I left, because he said, you you've got
about three to six months. I was gray and yellow
and whitish kind of but not not white man whitish,
like chalky white, and bloated, and and and really sent
(13:47):
home to die. And so as I was.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Process that experience, your wife and your.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
Kids, well, the business had had finally closed. I had
to shut the business down. I had about two and
a half million dollars in life insurance, you know, not
not two years before nine to eleven and all of
this happened. My net worth was about five million dollars.
(14:15):
And I went from a net worth of five million
to a net worth of zero, which was pretty devastating economically.
But then to have your health turned upside down. And
I'll tell you and to folks that are out there
that might be dealing with very dark moments and dark situations,
I get it. I really really do get it. I could.
(14:38):
I could see people smile, I could see people laugh,
I could I could see people trying to be kind,
But none of those feelings or emotions touched me. I
couldn't get there. I was completely and totally numbed.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
Both both you were maybe battling depression in that time.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Oh, I would say that there's no question that I
was battling depression, But but really am I I was?
I was battling depression and I was and I was
battling just absolutely being shut down on every level. And
I really reached a place of just you know, saying
to the Lord. And I wasn't upset, I wasn't mad,
(15:23):
I wasn't any of those things. I was just at
the place of saying, Lord, if if I'm done, if
if you have said it's over and you're calling me home, uh,
there's two and a half million dollars in life insurance,
and and if if you know, I was not suicidal
(15:43):
in that respect. I was just prepared that if God said,
you know, the next breath is your last, I was.
I was ready in that respect, so to speak.
Speaker 1 (15:57):
Good with being done with it all. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (16:00):
And so as a result of the dose of the
Ghost radio show, which was a holy hip hop radio
show with a three to five minute message on each
side of the other of the half hour that had
been syndicated and through Zeo Radio Networks out of Colorado,
(16:22):
and as a result of that, I had been invited
and was engaging as a co host on a Christian
television program called The Eleventh Hour, which aired out of Sacramento, California.
It was recorded in Modesto, California. It was actually a
(16:45):
recorded in a studio that had been owned by Chester Smith,
who performed with Merle Haggard and so Chester when he
sold the studio to Telemundo told them that as a
as a part of the sale, you will maintain studio
space for the eleventh hour television program for so long
(17:09):
as you have it and for so long as they
continue to produce a program. And so, as I was
lying on my bed, dying in my bedroom, I heard
the Holy Spirit. And I know for some that may
be difficult to understand, but it was my experience and
(17:31):
it was I needed to go and see Sandy Swanson,
the executive producer of the show. And so I got
up to do that. And as I'm trying to get up,
my wife, who we had four children at the time,
two in preschool and two in school, and she said, Honey,
where are you going? And I said, well, I've got
(17:52):
to go over to the studio, to the TV studio.
And she said, how are you even going to get there?
You can't even drive. I don't know, but I'm going.
And so I went over there met with Sandy. She
referred me to a natural path and I started on
natural pathic medicine, including bovine stem cell intervention in including
(18:15):
just a variety of things detoxes and so on, got
involved in deliverance ministry through that that I'm still involved
with today, and didn't get healed. But what I did
get was is I got to a place where I
turned the clock on not dying and I stayed alive.
Speaker 1 (18:41):
You gained purpose even in your sickness.
Speaker 2 (18:43):
Well, I did, because one of the messages that I
felt like I was given at that time was not
just the message of the cross, but really more the
message of the garden to guesssemine, which which is where
Jesus faced his his most significant battle. I believe uh
(19:05):
to the point that he was Uh had blood pouring
out of him, and he said, you know, if this
cup can pass, UH, let it pass, but not my will,
but thy will be done.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
It sounds sounds like you got your answer.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Well and and and so I I really entered into
that place. And and you know again, for those today
that may be going through a really difficult and challenging
and dark time, I just encourage you to know that
that that Jesus gets it, He really really gets it,
(19:46):
and he'll sit with you in that garden to guest
seventy for as long as it takes, it's for for
for for you to be ready to be able to
walk out, and he'll walk it out with you. And
and so we did. And I started on a protocol
that I took four times a day to try to
(20:09):
help support my adrenals of my pituitary gland. I had
multiple tests that were done when I got here to Texas.
One of them was with a chiropractor who looked at
my meridian time clock of where my body was. He
was going to try to help me, and he looked
at it, and he said when I came back to him,
(20:32):
and interestingly, his parents were the ones who were murdered
at the Loubies by a gunman. There was a very
famous case here in Texas because it led to Texas
passing legislation that allows people to be able to carry
to protect themselves against another incident like that ever happening again.
(20:56):
But anyway, doctor Gresia came back with the results. He said,
in thirty five years, I have never ever before seen
someone in your condition. He said, honestly, I don't know
how you're standing in front of me. I don't know
how you're here in my office. I don't know how
you're not lying in bed somewhere, Because the way this
(21:17):
works is is that the big hand's supposed to be
on the twelve and the little hand on the three.
Your hands are inverted. Your little hand is two minutes
to the twelve and your big hand is two minutes
to the three. And once they've fully inverted, you're dead.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (21:38):
So flash forward to twenty seventeen. I'm doing now this
Chosen Generation radio program. My daughter Jackie, one of my daughters,
is driving forming on that particular day, she's on her
learner's permit, and a gentleman in a truck pulls across
(21:59):
the highway in front of us and stops. He was
an older man who was confused. He'd just come out
of the doctor's office and pulled across and stopped in
front of us, And so there was nowhere to go.
There was an eighteen wheeler coming up. It was a
two lane road eighteen wheeler coming up over the other side,
(22:21):
over this little embankment, and so she turned the wheel
so as not to t bone him. She hit the
passenger driver's door with such force that it actually knocked
the cab off the frame by a foot and a half.
We impacted it fifty five miles per hour. Everything slowed
(22:44):
down in the cab. I dove from the passenger seat
to the driver's seat because I heard the Holy Spirit
say Jackie and seat belt, and I knew I had
to get over to become her airbag and protector. And
just as I was diving, two out of the back
of the truck came crashing through the windshield and I
(23:05):
was knocking down tools with my hands and then ultimately
blocking those tools from hitting her with the rest of
my body.
Speaker 1 (23:14):
Wow, I broke after your initial help incident, you got
a horrific automobile accident.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Yes, after thirteen years of just surviving, which I did
you know? I just I was really just surviving day
to day. I ended up in intensive care at University
Hospital in San Antonio, Texas, on life support with a
(23:46):
tube in my nose and a tube in my mouth,
on a breathing machine and other apparatus is keeping me
alive for six weeks, and I had seventeen surgery over
the course of five days. I died three more times.
I had died at the scene of the accident, and
(24:10):
uh and I ended up as as going through I
de gloved my face. I broke my left orbital.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Skin was pretty much removed from the muscle connection of
the bone.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
Yes, my my my skin and and muscle and everything
on my face and my and the top of my
head all the way back behind my ears. I was
fully disengaged from the skull.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Holy moly, uh.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I broke the base of my skull on both sides.
I broke my neck at C three, front and back.
I broke my back in three places between T and
T one. I then broke both hands and both wrists.
(25:09):
I broke my right rib cage. I broke my pelvis,
my hip, my femur, my tibia, and my fibula on
my left leg, and had to have rods put in
and screws to reattach and fix my hip, and a
(25:29):
rod in my femur and a rod in my tibia
on my left leg. And they said, mister young, that's
your good leg. And that's because I crushed the bottom
of my right knee so severely there wasn't enough knee
left to do a knee replacement. I crushed and destroyed
(25:49):
the top of the tibia, which required them to put
a plate attached to the side of the tibia, and
then long screws across the top of the tibia in
order to put the tibia back together. And that still
wasn't enough. They had to use bone glue. I severed
all the nerves below my right knee, and I severed
(26:11):
the main artery. And if I hadn't crushed that main artery,
I would have bled out on scene.
Speaker 1 (26:19):
Wow. So you're really a miracle.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Yes, sir. And then on top of that, because of
the severity of the damage to my right leg and
the lower right leg, I had what they called compartmental
strokes that were going on. So they had to open
up my right leg and they had to do what's
called a fasciotomy, and mine was extreme, so they actually
(26:46):
did a double fasciotomy, meaning they cut open both the
inside and the outside of my lower leg in order
to release the pressure so that I didn't die of
a compartmental stroke. Wow. Now, one of the things that
that I did during that time, uh was was spiritual warfare,
(27:08):
and my family and I prayed against the spirit of
death and I really believe that, and and the prayers
of thousands because at the time my radio program had
been syndicated and I was on about one hundred stations
across the country.
Speaker 1 (27:24):
Oh well, so you had following at that point.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Yes, yes, I sure did. And we did VINEO like
rush so so I so it streamed online. And plus
the fact that I had all this audience that was
listening across the country, and and I'm very grateful for that,
and uh and and that two years later turned into
(27:49):
an opportunity or an invitation, I should say, uh, to
be sharing this testimony in the remotest parts of India.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
So pretty much every time you had a challenge, that
challenge led you into another level of ministering and sharing
your testimony.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
It sounds like it, really, honestly it did. With each challenge,
and with with each you know what would appear to
be setbacks. And I'm not suggesting that they weren't challenging
and weren't setbacks, But with each one of those came
(28:32):
an opportunity to be able to present and have an impact.
And through all of this, it should be noted too
that I was learning about faith. I was learning about
faith that persevered. I remember very distinctly one time sharing
(28:57):
a sermon about that. At that point, my wife and
I had been married eleven years and we'd had to
move sixteen times, wow, across three states and six cities,
all because of different employment situations. That was before I
started my own company, started my own business.
Speaker 1 (29:19):
And yet you're still here, and yet you're still broadcasting.
So all that led to I guess your current iteration
of chosen Generation the ministry and broadcast your international ministry.
Is that correct?
Speaker 2 (29:32):
It really has. It has led to us now having
over the course of the last six years this impact.
We've planted twenty two hundred churches. We've put in sixty
five freshwater wells. We've established five sewing schools for widows
(29:54):
and six literacy schools. We do a feeding program every
month where we feed about fifty to sixty widows and
their children. All of this is in the most northern
part of India.
Speaker 1 (30:11):
Oh well, so it is the international Ministry that you're speaking.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
Of, Yes, sir, Yes, it is. It is in the
most northern part and in the poorest of the poor
communities throughout Punjab, India, which is a very Punjab, Jamu
and Kashmir throughout those parts of the world.
Speaker 1 (30:33):
So if you were to give advice to and this
is general because everybody's circumstances differently. As a matter of fact,
we've kind of come to know each other and sharing
our individual testimonies because we both had traumatic situations physically.
But to give suggestion to anyone that's going through in
(30:55):
their life that would be practical, whether they have faith
or not, because something you mentioned they'd stuck with me
is even in your Indian ministry, a lot of the
people that you're talking to aren't necessarily Christians or of faith,
but your testimony is a blessing to them anyhow.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Well, absolutely, because I I think what what the what
the message is and and and what it what it
says is is that you know, we are having an
opportunity to be able to make a difference in in
someone's life, Yes, and and to and to give them hope.
(31:36):
One one of the greatest challenges for those in in
India is is they feel hopeless. They they feel as
though there there is no hope. And unfortunately they have
a caste system that is very foreign to us here
in the Western world. But the caste stem basically says
(32:01):
that if you're born in the lower cast number one,
you're born there because it's a punishment by God, God
is punishing you.
Speaker 1 (32:12):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Number two, it says that you are you are placed
in that in that position because you you are, you're gosh,
you're you're, you're, you're basically without, without purpose in life.
(32:35):
And and so because you are told that you are without,
you know this purpose and that every bad thing that
happens to you happens to you as some form of punishment.
Imagine how hopeless you might be or might feel if
that was your lot in life.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
Yeah, I'd say it's probably people here, even in the States,
that maybe able to relate to that description feeling hopeless.
And even for our listeners today who may be feeling
like giving up, whether due to health or personal or
spiritual battles, what final words of hope would you share
(33:16):
with them?
Speaker 2 (33:18):
I would hope that my story and what has has
gone on in my life. Number One, I never minimize.
Romans tells us we weep with those that weep, and
we rejoice with those that rejoice. So I don't minimize
someone else's challengers or someone else's issues that they're going through.
(33:43):
But what I do want them to know is is
that I absolutely firmly believe and am a living testimony that.
Speaker 1 (33:50):
There is hope and that there is How can people
connect with you and your ministry?
Speaker 2 (33:55):
Yeah, the best way to connect with us is really
through the website Chosen General Radio dot com. You can
email me through that as well.
Speaker 1 (34:05):
Awesome, awesome, awesome. Normally I would ask, because you already
answered this question, what do you think your legacy isn't
what would you like for it to be? But I'd
say it's one of endurance, not giving up, keeping on,
pressing on no matter what, and seeing the challenges as
just that they're just simply challenges. You're going to get
(34:26):
to tomorrow until God says you're no more, and that's
the blessing of life. As you said, we take on
our brother and our sister's burdens at never a discount
how they feel or what they're going through. But encourage,
continue to encourage, and i'd say to the past break,
continue to be encouraged. We thank God for you joining us,
(34:48):
for the voices of legacy and sharing the testimony of
your life. And who knows, hopefully the next great thing
doesn't come with a great tragedy. We pray at this point,
but we're we're so thankful for you sharing your story.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
Thank you, Pastor Carl, thank you for letting me be
a part of Voices of Legacy. And God bless everyone
that is listening to our program. God bless you.
Speaker 1 (35:12):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (35:25):
Thank you for listening to the Voices of Legacy. This
is your friend, Pastor Carl Mitchell the third, your hosts
of this program. We want you to go to WGTE
dot org slash legacy to like, share, subscribe, and hear
all of our past podcast and our future podcast. Be
a friend and join with us in the Voices of Legacy,
(35:49):
where you're writing your own legacy every day that you live.
Have a blessed
Speaker 2 (36:29):
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