May 15, 2025 • 26 mins
In this inspiring episode, we sit down with the dynamic Donetta Carter, affectionately known as The Social Butterfly. From organizing impactful community events to empowering small businesses and nonprofits across Toledo, Donetta shares her powerful story of purpose, perseverance, and passion. Tune in as she reflects on her journey, her faith, and how she continues to make a difference through connection, service, and love for the people.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to another powerful episode of Voices of Legacy with
your host, Pastor Carl Mitchell, and I'm here with you
on WGTE with a very special guest. Today, we're honored
to welcome a woman who's well known throughout the city
of Toledo and beyond, connecting people with business and business
with people and community, spreading joy and celebration all across
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Lucas County and the surrounding area by the many events
and other things that she does that we're going to
talk about today in the community of Toledo, Lucas County.
She's an event promoter. Used to call them party promoters
back in the day, but she's an event promoter, a
travel agent, and the founder and driving force behind the
Social Butterfly, whether it's fashion shows, Community Exposed, or trips
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missed the nett A Carter, Welcome to the Voices of Legacy.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Wow, you said it, You said it all, you did
your research. A little bit about Doneta Carter. The Social Butterfly.
I was founded in twenty twelve for the business Social Butterfly,
and the reason for that is to promote small businesses
to give them a platform to get new customers, networking opportunities,
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generational wealth for their businesses. It started as a hobby
and it turned into it business, and then I had
to do the appropriate things and get an EI in
number in checking account, savings account, quick print, do everything
for a business because I started as a hobby. And
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that's people say, how did you get started? That's how
I got started.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yes, a lot of business. My dad's business kind of
started as a hobby. But nevertheless, so did you do
that back in high school, like put together events or
when did it?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No? Twenty twelve. Before twenty twelve, I used to promote
the gospel concerts for doctor Mark Williams and doctor Woods.
They used to do concerts for children's services Lucas County
back in the day. So I used to promote those
and take photos Mark, Yes, yeah, doctor Woodson, doctor Mark Williams.
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So I was started. I started with them and then
I was doing other things, and then all of a sudden,
I had to get everything implemented. What I mean by that,
I had to get things official, dot the i's and
cross the t's because just doing it as a hobby
is not going to do it for if you have
a business.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, So that's when it kind of more from being
just a hobby into actually, Okay, this is something, this
is real, it's something happening here. Yes, But it wasn't
a plan to start a business at all, was it not?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Really?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Because you already in business, weren't you? Or or you
had a profession.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And dependent traveling. I have a I have a regular job.
I'm a social worker. I have a degree from a
University of Toledo master's in social work and Lord's College.
So this this is a self made entrepreneur. Yes, that's
the way I look at it.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Kind of sounds like it's purposed and everything kind of
fits together one way or another. So what got you
into social work?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
My grandmother, my aunt, they were social workers and I
like helping people.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, so that's what that's what you do best?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Probably, Yes, helping others and advocating for others and making
sure their voice. I can be the voice for them
because I'm on the Lucas County Mental Health Recovery Service Board,
so I advocate with my vote and advocate for them
as well.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So do you work hands on with like adults, children
or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I do children. I'm a foster parent, so that's definitely
hands on and I do may yes youthing to they're
here today as well. So I've been doing foster care
for a long time with the youth boys, and then
I do seniors, work with seniors directly.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Awesome. Awesome. You work with area.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Agent, Yes, yes, with the meal program.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Hmmm hmm, that sounds pretty good. So you you started
in social work and then you had the event coordination
on the side and that turned into a business. Where
did the travel agentcy come from.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I've been a travel agent since two thousand, Independent Adventures
Travel I started, but I was traveling before SORR. I
became a travel agent, so they said, well why don't
I was thinking to myself, well, why don't I just
be a trail agent and get the perks.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Were you dealing with another travel agent and you said
maybe I could do this.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Or well, travel agent approached me about it because they say,
you do a lot of traveling, so why don't you
just become a travel agent. And it made a lot
of sense. You didn't have to show me the blueprint
only one time.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, So being a travel agent you get the perks
for cruises, resorts, hotels, car rental, everything, and I do
it at my leisure. Some people don't even know I'm
an independent trail agent. I don't say. If they need
me to book something, I'll book it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Do you mix the events with the travel.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes, Yes, I do trips too.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yes, we have the Detroit Princess Riverboat coming up. That's
a fundraiser this summer.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Cruises and such.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Or if there's like an event I don't know, the
BT Awards or something, I go to that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yes, I go to BT Awards. I go to the
groups sometimes just myself, me or another companion, and then
I go to Stellar Awards, Soul Train Awards, Black Music Awards.
I just got a call from them yesterday that they
moved their date back and I'm thinking I'm going in May. No,
it's moved back to October.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Oh wow. Yeah, so you're just all over the I'm married.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So I am true to my name social butterfly.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I guess you're wearing many hats, but they all
kind of coordinate together.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yes, in some way or another. Yes, And you volunteer
as well. Yes, I do a lot of volunteer. I
give a lot of money away two different organization during
the expo that we just had April fifth, and I
just had. I presented a check for five hundred dollars
to the kitchen for the poor.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Oh awesome, just.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
For Daily Operator Savage. Yes, he came there and we
did a presentation for that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Awesome, awesome, that's that's amazing and really really good. So
you're from Toledo.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yes, people, I think I'm from Detroit because I'm there
a lot. Yeah, but I do other things in Detroit
as well.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Well. Don't email me, but Toledo is a bedroom community
of Detroit.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's a second home.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It is. We're connected, We're so close. Yeah. So promoter,
travel agent, coordinator of volunteers or anything else that you do, mom.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, foster Mom, I do wherever in my heart, wherever God.
I think God made the plan for me to He
gave me the vision. But even if He give you
the vision, sometime it may not be your niche. So
you can figure out if this is what you're supposed
to be doing. I don't think I would be doing
business and help expos and small business Saturday for fourteen
years if I didn't enjoy it. If I didn't enjoy it.
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I don't think I would be doing it that long.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think you enjoyed. I was at your exposed and
I was trying to say and I was watching. I
was like, you know what, I'm gonna let her do her.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I was busy that day. It was busy. I appreciate
the partnership that we had with the YANC.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, let's see. And you host everything from expos for
vendors and fairs and such and local entrepreneurs, so you
have a heart for the local entrepreneur. Oh, I'm business owners.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Small businesses that's just getting started. What I do, I
try to give them some knowledge and even though they
have different programs in Toledo, Esseys, Toledo, Olivia, Holten, but
I try to give them if they ask me questions
or I try to give them one on one so
they don't have to struggle like other people struggle.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's all some established businesses there you have to expo,
and then there were some people just starting out.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, just starting out. Yeah, and they really enjoyed. They
want to they're signed up for the next one already.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah. We're outdoors though, so we won't be limited to
the space.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That'll be nice. And it's very diverse, yes, a mix
of people.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yes, Yes, we even had some people like Toledo Museum
of Arts with the kids Imagination station with the kids,
different people, and then Hearing Life for testing and UTMC
did all the screenings in their mobile unit. So we
had a diverse I had just a variety of It's
like a one stop shop.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
For pretty much everything. Because I went home with.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The Yeah, if you were looking for windows, doors, Paarrol, candles,
chacouterie boards. So we have a variety.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
So massage, a massage.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
A complimentary massage, and we even had Alicia Gaffney doing cracking.
She was doing the back She's a yoga instructor. So
we had a variety of everything. City commercial, Jones barbecue
and foot massage. Oh yeah, I seen that one.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You little bit of everything.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You get your barbecue ribs and you get a massage.
I seen that commercial.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But I think I enjoy the diversity of content that
you have at your events, and you've been doing all
of them for about fourteen years or.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Just fourteen years straight. Even with COVID. I had to
do it outdoors, yeah, because they said you couldn't have
but twenty six people and a bill. I have sixty
vendors alone, let along twenty six people. Usually we have
four to five hundred people participating. I know that parking
lot was full because Fletcher said then that there's nowhere
to park out here, so they had to park on
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the other side of the fence.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So I was like, I understand, but usually we're at
another venue that's much larger, bigger parking. But it was
it worked out.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And you work with Talo Parks and Recreations.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a member of metro Parks Melissa
Clark and Jackie Cummings and Matt Killiam. Yeah. I try
to support the metro Parks and I'm a member of
the good Nature of Metro Parks too.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Wow. What are you not a member of?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And I'm a member of my sorority Alpha Kappa member
just a few groups now, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated
and Zeta Alpha Maka Chapter in Toledo, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Now you didn't even finish that. You know what you're
supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
And my president is Rachelle Watkin.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, how has your fate influence your journey as a
businesswoman and community leader and have you really embraced being
a community leader? That's what you are.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
They say, I'm a community leader.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But you won't because I'm just modest.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm just not modest, but I'm just it just comes natural, yes, ma'am.
It doesn't like the lady when she came to the
AXT she said, this is magnificent. She said, I've never
seen anything like this in Toledo, event like this because
she's never been and she heard it on another station
and that's why she came out. And she said, I'm
just gonna have to follow you on Facebook. And she said,
how can I get a hold of you? And I
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told her and I gave her the Save the Day
card for the next event. She said, you got the
next two coming up? I said, you August and December,
so you can plan ahead. I have to do everything
a year in advance. I have to plan, sign contracts,
make sure everything is you know, or anything. Yeah, because
I don't want to I want people to know about
my event in advance. But when you do things at
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the last minute, I think people can't save that date
and you're not. You don't have it planned right. That's
just my feeling.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I think it will turn out as well as at
least what I've seen, it seems to turn out really well.
I think the planning in advance really helps that, and
it gives you time to talk about it even beforehand. Yes, yeah,
you do your major push at but everything's already lined up.
You're going to fulfill what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, I do everything, and then the day off, I
do have like ten to fifteen social butterfly volunteers, the
ladies in the pink T shirt and the jackets like mine,
so they help me the day out. But I do everything.
I get the venue, I do the marketing, I do
the promoting. But I do have a street team that
pass out three thousand flyers save the date flyers.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So you do have some help. That was gonna be
my next question. Yeah, I have, because it looks like
the aesthetic is it's just you.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, you can't do this by yourself. You have to
have help. You might think in your mind you can,
but if you don't have the right team. You can
have a team, but you might have somebody on that
team taking that sinker out that ship and might try
to sink you down with it. Oh, you got to
some people that started with me didn't end up with me.
You started in twenty twelve. Even some of the small
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businesses and people that were helping me. For whatever reason,
it must it didn't work, or we didn't drive, or
whatever the case may be. But whoever starts with you
sometimes even my late pastor Johnny Roberts. That's where I
started in Indiana Baptist. But Indiana got too small. I
had more vendors than I had space. That's the problem
that I do have. But my attorney account said, that's
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not your problem, because I have waiting lists. People are
waiting to get tables in space, but there's I don't
have nowhere to like. I told the lady problem. Yeah,
it's a good problem to have. She said, I came
to your expo at the Y and you were right.
You didn't have an I told her, I don't have
any room. You're on a list. If somebody canceled on
no show, we were already in here. She didn't. She
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didn't believe me, I guess, but she when she came
she said, oh, yeah, this you are. You were right,
But I've been doing it. I told her I could
do this with my eyes closed.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well after fourteen years. Yeah, if you don't have it yet, Oh, if.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You don't got it down, something's wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So again back to faith and influence for your business
and community service.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I think if God's not in it, it's not going
to work. That's so I just keep the faith and
then I don't worry about getting vendors or small business
owners or entrepreneur nonprofit they reach out to me. Before,
when I first started in twenty twelve, I used to
have to contact people. I don't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So how many events do you have every year? Again?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Three x three Small Business Exposed and then I do
two fundraisers okay, yeah. This year I'm just going to
do one fundraiser okay, yeah, because I got some travel plans.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But if there's something else going on in Toledo and
you know about it, I'll be there. Yeah. You're either
there or you're promoting it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I share other people's events. I cover other people's events.
Sometimes I take the pictures, I do the narrative, and
then I sometime I'll send it to the Truth News
paper Fletcher and I send it to him as well.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Where do you have time?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You take a pillow and blanket with you. No, they said,
how do you do social butterflies sleep? Yes, I sleep,
I sleep very well. Yeah, I get good rests. But
I plan everything. I have to write everything out.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Some pretty good time management.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yes. If I didn't have time management, I don't think
this would work.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Back in the day, I think they used to call
a day runner. Remember old day runners.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, I still have. It was not a day
runner I have. I have a calendar and then I
use my phone. Yeah, it gives me alert and I'm trying.
Like if I go to the airport, my friends they
laugh at me because I'm there two and a half
hours early. I'm not missing plane, ships, trains or nothing.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I'm not a good place to work. It is Yeah
for me when I used to travel and speak a lot,
and I sit in the airport. What you're saying, not
maybe two hours, but at least an hour ahead of time?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, I'm coming two hours and you meet people too. Yeah,
but I can do something time management. I can check
my emails, I can respond to emails, I can make
phone calls. I can read a book. So you got
to just think because some people are like, I don't
want to say the person's name friend.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's on the tip of your tongue. Don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
They don't believe in it's time. They're late, and then
they missed planes and they missed the cruise ship. I
can't do it. I'm not going to pay my money
for something and then missed out. It's just in my
mind to be on time. It's just something about that time. Yeah.
People say, well then that you don't have to be
there two hours early. If it's an international flight, I'm
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going to be there early.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Oh my goodness. Yes, yes, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
No because you don't know even though you have the
TSA pre check and all that. They said you're too
time conscious. Someone told me that you're too time No,
you can never be too time conscious.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So it seems like there's an air of excellence in
pretty much everything that you represent, in what represents you,
So that would kind of lend itself to excellence, I
mean time management. Being on time.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah. I even tell the vendors that because it says
it in that they're contract please be break down at
this time, start at this time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Have you ever had problems with that? I probably won't
have to ask you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yes, yes, some people come late or sometimes no, people.
They don't no show, no call, want the money back? No, no, okay,
I don't hear from him nothing, no show, no call.
But I have a list of two thousand small vendors entrepreneur,
so that's on them, whatever the case may be. So
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I don't know they have to call me. I don't
know why you didn't show up.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I know a question I had when we were talking
just a moment ago. Do you do paid promotions for
other events?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes? No, Yes, for concerts through Live Nation Ticketmaster, yep. Cool,
that's what the contract though.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, yep, And most of that's probably in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Mostly or different places. Like the guy in Alabama, he's
in Alabama. I'm in Toledo. One of the use here
in Toledo. I don't know if I can say their name.
They told him to reach out to me, and then
that's how I connected with ten promoters to promote their
events in their concerts. So that's been happening for a while.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So operating and excellence kind of lends itself to connections.
They pretty much. So it sounds like you might need
some more help.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I might need Assistan.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Boy contacting that I can't promote it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I love promoting and marketing. I love. I don't know.
It's just a skill that I have. And I look,
they said, I'm the lady said you do well on
social media, she saidned to see all your stuff and
event up and coming events not only Lucas County, northwest Ohio,
surrounding areas.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So on TikTok, Twitter, Twitch.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, I don't do. I do TikTok a lot on Instagram.
It's Facebook, but I don't do Twitter too much. I
have a Twitter account, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You said, wow, So three major events plus two fundraisers.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That right, Yeah, this year is going to be one fundraiser.
Fundraisers I do sundressers and big hats and I give
Last year was to Bittersweet Farms. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I was going to ask, what's the cause?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
The sun dresses and big hats the cause of the
reason why I do the fundraisers to give back And
some of the nonprofits they don't get other fundings like
other nonprofits do, like from the state, or some have
like low minimum access to money and capital. So I
tried to give back in that way because they said,
well why did you how did you pick this group?
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And sometimes I put all the names in the hat
and shake it and let my kid pick it out.
And that's how I choose because I have thirty people
on the list, but I can't do thirty fundraisers. I'm
only one person.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
That's true. Yeah, well, I think you may be inspiring
others to kind of maybe well they're calling yeah, whatever
it may be. Yeah, So I guess next to the
last question or two or two maybe what do you
think the effect of the fourteen year journey plush has
been on both yourself? How have you kind of matured
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in it? Because if you do anything for a long
period of time, you're just going to get better and
better and better.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It seems like the growth has tremendous. I mean it
went fast because fourteen years, I'm like, oh my god,
I'm on year number five, number six. I'm like, first
I wanted to stop and take a break, but the
entrepreneurs a new startup businesses, they won't let you because
I wanted to take a break. But it seems like
it's more growth, prosperity and something to look for because
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you have more like ninety percent of women are entrepreneurs
and Lucas County here, I mean, I'm just saying all
over but in Toledo, you do see mostly when you
go to these shows, it's mostly females. You see very
few males, but maybe one or two three. But so,
I think the business entrepreneurs makes the world without the entrepreneurs.
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I know, you got the big box building like Stoose.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Come from originally entrepreneurs. They were those people coming to
your shows at one time.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yes, yes, so I think it's the growth and the
prosperity over the years. And just keep continue to do
it as long as I can. Keeping you young, yeah,
keeping me busy, oh.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
See, she's modest. It's keeping you, yes, and active.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It keeps it keeps me active, keep me moving. I
just I do enjoy. And then some people said, why
don't you take your show on the road. I did
that before. I know. A couple of cities reached out
to me to come to their city to do a
social butterfly expo.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah. Well I remember the Black Expo when when I
was young man, my father being an entrepreneur, we went
to Black Expo in Charlotte. We went and won in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I don't know if they still do that, Yes they do, Okay, yeah,
they have women in Powerment and Expo. They have black
they have exposed Yeah, and they still do it.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah. And and was it the phone book thing is
similar to that, but it's like a book of businesses.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yes, I remember that and those really positive things.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That's the kind of stuff that we need to see.
So we do. Maybe you'll get enough help and you'll
take the show on the room. We need to do
that if it's your vision.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I did. I did a show in Michigan before
it was okay, yeah, you go down south.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, I've been to Atlanta, but I haven't did any
shows in Atlanta. Oh okay, yeah, So we'll see. We'll
see what twenty twenty six will bring you. Ever know,
might be a surprise Charlotte, Atlanta, Yeah, Nashville maybe or Columbus. Yeah,
because Columbus is calling me now, Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So what do you think your legacy is and what
would you like for it to be?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
My legacy would be too. If someone say, well, who
do you know Donnette Carter? I would say she likes
to advocate for others and promote for others and others brands,
And some people say, well, I don't promote myself because
you do enough of it. No, you know your brand
better than me. Yeah, like your brand here WGT you
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and Chris your production at you guys know your brand
better than I do. So, like I told the entrepreneurs,
they said, well, you're here and there and everywhere promoting
and marketing. You bring the people, but I don't know
the same people you know, So everybody knows different people.
We might have some people that we know each other together,
but I don't have your target audience. So I'm going
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out doing all this promoting and marketing in the last
two weeks of the event. So the one entrepreneur she
told me, I don't promote myself. I said, oh, that's
not good. You should promote yourself. Yeah. Who knows your
brand better than you? You make candles?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Your testimony is for you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, for example, she makes candle. Who knows that you
make candles? She said nobody. I said, well that's why
you got to promote yourself. WHOA Yeah, I just promote
the entire event. Yeah, not just one individual. Yeah, so
my legacy, what if people want to know me by that,
I'd like to promote others and advocate for others.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Awesome, awesome, Well, thank you so much for joining us
for the Voices of Legacy. We really appreciate what you
do in the community in the city of Toledo. It's
a blessing to have folks that have a love for
the city and actually implemented what you were just talking about,
actually doing something to effectively spread what it is that
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God has placed in your heart to do and helping
people help themselves. Really. Yeah, who knows, you might be
seating something for the next Walmart, Sam Walton or something ever. Yeah,
Macy's that you were talking about. But we look forward
to big things for you and hopefully you'll come back
and talk about some stuff that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate you.
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Commission
Welcome to another powerful episode of Voices of Legacy with
your host, Pastor Carl Mitchell, and I'm here with you
on WGTE with a very special guest. Today, we're honored
to welcome a woman who's well known throughout the city
of Toledo and beyond, connecting people with business and business
with people and community, spreading joy and celebration all across
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Lucas County and the surrounding area by the many events
and other things that she does that we're going to
talk about today in the community of Toledo, Lucas County.
She's an event promoter. Used to call them party promoters
back in the day, but she's an event promoter, a
travel agent, and the founder and driving force behind the
Social Butterfly, whether it's fashion shows, Community Exposed, or trips
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missed the nett A Carter, Welcome to the Voices of Legacy.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Tell us a little bit about yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Wow, you said it, You said it all, you did
your research. A little bit about Doneta Carter. The Social Butterfly.
I was founded in twenty twelve for the business Social Butterfly,
and the reason for that is to promote small businesses
to give them a platform to get new customers, networking opportunities,
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generational wealth for their businesses. It started as a hobby
and it turned into it business, and then I had
to do the appropriate things and get an EI in
number in checking account, savings account, quick print, do everything
for a business because I started as a hobby. And
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that's people say, how did you get started? That's how
I got started.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
Yes, a lot of business. My dad's business kind of
started as a hobby. But nevertheless, so did you do
that back in high school, like put together events or
when did it?
Speaker 2 (02:22):
No? Twenty twelve. Before twenty twelve, I used to promote
the gospel concerts for doctor Mark Williams and doctor Woods.
They used to do concerts for children's services Lucas County
back in the day. So I used to promote those
and take photos Mark, Yes, yeah, doctor Woodson, doctor Mark Williams.
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So I was started. I started with them and then
I was doing other things, and then all of a sudden,
I had to get everything implemented. What I mean by that,
I had to get things official, dot the i's and
cross the t's because just doing it as a hobby
is not going to do it for if you have
a business.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
Yeah, So that's when it kind of more from being
just a hobby into actually, Okay, this is something, this
is real, it's something happening here. Yes, But it wasn't
a plan to start a business at all, was it not?
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Really?
Speaker 1 (03:14):
Because you already in business, weren't you? Or or you
had a profession.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
And dependent traveling. I have a I have a regular job.
I'm a social worker. I have a degree from a
University of Toledo master's in social work and Lord's College.
So this this is a self made entrepreneur. Yes, that's
the way I look at it.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Kind of sounds like it's purposed and everything kind of
fits together one way or another. So what got you
into social work?
Speaker 2 (03:41):
My grandmother, my aunt, they were social workers and I
like helping people.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
Yes, so that's what that's what you do best?
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Probably, Yes, helping others and advocating for others and making
sure their voice. I can be the voice for them
because I'm on the Lucas County Mental Health Recovery Service Board,
so I advocate with my vote and advocate for them
as well.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
So do you work hands on with like adults, children
or anything like that.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
I do children. I'm a foster parent, so that's definitely
hands on and I do may yes youthing to they're
here today as well. So I've been doing foster care
for a long time with the youth boys, and then
I do seniors, work with seniors directly.
Speaker 1 (04:32):
Awesome. Awesome. You work with area.
Speaker 2 (04:34):
Agent, Yes, yes, with the meal program.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Hmmm hmm, that sounds pretty good. So you you started
in social work and then you had the event coordination
on the side and that turned into a business. Where
did the travel agentcy come from.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
I've been a travel agent since two thousand, Independent Adventures
Travel I started, but I was traveling before SORR. I
became a travel agent, so they said, well why don't
I was thinking to myself, well, why don't I just
be a trail agent and get the perks.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Were you dealing with another travel agent and you said
maybe I could do this.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Or well, travel agent approached me about it because they say,
you do a lot of traveling, so why don't you
just become a travel agent. And it made a lot
of sense. You didn't have to show me the blueprint
only one time.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
Yeah, So being a travel agent you get the perks
for cruises, resorts, hotels, car rental, everything, and I do
it at my leisure. Some people don't even know I'm
an independent trail agent. I don't say. If they need
me to book something, I'll book it.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Do you mix the events with the travel.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Yes, Yes, I do trips too.
Speaker 1 (05:43):
Ah.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Yes, we have the Detroit Princess Riverboat coming up. That's
a fundraiser this summer.
Speaker 1 (05:50):
Cruises and such.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yes.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Or if there's like an event I don't know, the
BT Awards or something, I go to that. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yes, I go to BT Awards. I go to the
groups sometimes just myself, me or another companion, and then
I go to Stellar Awards, Soul Train Awards, Black Music Awards.
I just got a call from them yesterday that they
moved their date back and I'm thinking I'm going in May. No,
it's moved back to October.
Speaker 1 (06:17):
Oh wow. Yeah, so you're just all over the I'm married.
That's awesome.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
So I am true to my name social butterfly.
Speaker 1 (06:24):
So I guess you're wearing many hats, but they all
kind of coordinate together.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yes, in some way or another. Yes, And you volunteer
as well. Yes, I do a lot of volunteer. I
give a lot of money away two different organization during
the expo that we just had April fifth, and I
just had. I presented a check for five hundred dollars
to the kitchen for the poor.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Oh awesome, just.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
For Daily Operator Savage. Yes, he came there and we
did a presentation for that.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Awesome, awesome, that's that's amazing and really really good. So
you're from Toledo.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Yes, people, I think I'm from Detroit because I'm there
a lot. Yeah, but I do other things in Detroit
as well.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Well. Don't email me, but Toledo is a bedroom community
of Detroit.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's a second home.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
It is. We're connected, We're so close. Yeah. So promoter,
travel agent, coordinator of volunteers or anything else that you do, mom.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah, foster Mom, I do wherever in my heart, wherever God.
I think God made the plan for me to He
gave me the vision. But even if He give you
the vision, sometime it may not be your niche. So
you can figure out if this is what you're supposed
to be doing. I don't think I would be doing
business and help expos and small business Saturday for fourteen
years if I didn't enjoy it. If I didn't enjoy it.
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I don't think I would be doing it that long.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
I think you enjoyed. I was at your exposed and
I was trying to say and I was watching. I
was like, you know what, I'm gonna let her do her.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
I was busy that day. It was busy. I appreciate
the partnership that we had with the YANC.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
Yeah, let's see. And you host everything from expos for
vendors and fairs and such and local entrepreneurs, so you
have a heart for the local entrepreneur. Oh, I'm business owners.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Small businesses that's just getting started. What I do, I
try to give them some knowledge and even though they
have different programs in Toledo, Esseys, Toledo, Olivia, Holten, but
I try to give them if they ask me questions
or I try to give them one on one so
they don't have to struggle like other people struggle.
Speaker 1 (08:29):
That's all some established businesses there you have to expo,
and then there were some people just starting out.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Yeah, just starting out. Yeah, and they really enjoyed. They
want to they're signed up for the next one already.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
Yeah. We're outdoors though, so we won't be limited to
the space.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
That'll be nice. And it's very diverse, yes, a mix
of people.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
Yes, Yes, we even had some people like Toledo Museum
of Arts with the kids Imagination station with the kids,
different people, and then Hearing Life for testing and UTMC
did all the screenings in their mobile unit. So we
had a diverse I had just a variety of It's
like a one stop shop.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
For pretty much everything. Because I went home with.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
The Yeah, if you were looking for windows, doors, Paarrol, candles,
chacouterie boards. So we have a variety.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
So massage, a massage.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
A complimentary massage, and we even had Alicia Gaffney doing cracking.
She was doing the back She's a yoga instructor. So
we had a variety of everything. City commercial, Jones barbecue
and foot massage. Oh yeah, I seen that one.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
You little bit of everything.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
You get your barbecue ribs and you get a massage.
I seen that commercial.
Speaker 1 (09:41):
But I think I enjoy the diversity of content that
you have at your events, and you've been doing all
of them for about fourteen years or.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Just fourteen years straight. Even with COVID. I had to
do it outdoors, yeah, because they said you couldn't have
but twenty six people and a bill. I have sixty
vendors alone, let along twenty six people. Usually we have
four to five hundred people participating. I know that parking
lot was full because Fletcher said then that there's nowhere
to park out here, so they had to park on
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the other side of the fence.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (10:15):
So I was like, I understand, but usually we're at
another venue that's much larger, bigger parking. But it was
it worked out.
Speaker 1 (10:23):
And you work with Talo Parks and Recreations.
Speaker 2 (10:26):
Oh yeah, yeah, I'm a member of metro Parks Melissa
Clark and Jackie Cummings and Matt Killiam. Yeah. I try
to support the metro Parks and I'm a member of
the good Nature of Metro Parks too.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Wow. What are you not a member of?
Speaker 2 (10:41):
And I'm a member of my sorority Alpha Kappa member
just a few groups now, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Incorporated
and Zeta Alpha Maka Chapter in Toledo, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Now you didn't even finish that. You know what you're
supposed to do.
Speaker 2 (10:54):
And my president is Rachelle Watkin.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
Okay, how has your fate influence your journey as a
businesswoman and community leader and have you really embraced being
a community leader? That's what you are.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
They say, I'm a community leader.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
But you won't because I'm just modest.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
I'm just not modest, but I'm just it just comes natural, yes, ma'am.
It doesn't like the lady when she came to the
AXT she said, this is magnificent. She said, I've never
seen anything like this in Toledo, event like this because
she's never been and she heard it on another station
and that's why she came out. And she said, I'm
just gonna have to follow you on Facebook. And she said,
how can I get a hold of you? And I
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told her and I gave her the Save the Day
card for the next event. She said, you got the
next two coming up? I said, you August and December,
so you can plan ahead. I have to do everything
a year in advance. I have to plan, sign contracts,
make sure everything is you know, or anything. Yeah, because
I don't want to I want people to know about
my event in advance. But when you do things at
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the last minute, I think people can't save that date
and you're not. You don't have it planned right. That's
just my feeling.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
I think it will turn out as well as at
least what I've seen, it seems to turn out really well.
I think the planning in advance really helps that, and
it gives you time to talk about it even beforehand. Yes, yeah,
you do your major push at but everything's already lined up.
You're going to fulfill what you're saying.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Yes, I do everything, and then the day off, I
do have like ten to fifteen social butterfly volunteers, the
ladies in the pink T shirt and the jackets like mine,
so they help me the day out. But I do everything.
I get the venue, I do the marketing, I do
the promoting. But I do have a street team that
pass out three thousand flyers save the date flyers.
Speaker 1 (12:40):
So you do have some help. That was gonna be
my next question. Yeah, I have, because it looks like
the aesthetic is it's just you.
Speaker 2 (12:46):
No, you can't do this by yourself. You have to
have help. You might think in your mind you can,
but if you don't have the right team. You can
have a team, but you might have somebody on that
team taking that sinker out that ship and might try
to sink you down with it. Oh, you got to
some people that started with me didn't end up with me.
You started in twenty twelve. Even some of the small
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businesses and people that were helping me. For whatever reason,
it must it didn't work, or we didn't drive, or
whatever the case may be. But whoever starts with you
sometimes even my late pastor Johnny Roberts. That's where I
started in Indiana Baptist. But Indiana got too small. I
had more vendors than I had space. That's the problem
that I do have. But my attorney account said, that's
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not your problem, because I have waiting lists. People are
waiting to get tables in space, but there's I don't
have nowhere to like. I told the lady problem. Yeah,
it's a good problem to have. She said, I came
to your expo at the Y and you were right.
You didn't have an I told her, I don't have
any room. You're on a list. If somebody canceled on
no show, we were already in here. She didn't. She
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didn't believe me, I guess, but she when she came
she said, oh, yeah, this you are. You were right,
But I've been doing it. I told her I could
do this with my eyes closed.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well after fourteen years. Yeah, if you don't have it yet, Oh, if.
Speaker 2 (13:59):
You don't got it down, something's wrong.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
So again back to faith and influence for your business
and community service.
Speaker 2 (14:06):
I think if God's not in it, it's not going
to work. That's so I just keep the faith and
then I don't worry about getting vendors or small business
owners or entrepreneur nonprofit they reach out to me. Before,
when I first started in twenty twelve, I used to
have to contact people. I don't have to do that anymore.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
So how many events do you have every year? Again?
Speaker 2 (14:28):
Three x three Small Business Exposed and then I do
two fundraisers okay, yeah. This year I'm just going to
do one fundraiser okay, yeah, because I got some travel plans.
Speaker 1 (14:40):
But if there's something else going on in Toledo and
you know about it, I'll be there. Yeah. You're either
there or you're promoting it. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I share other people's events. I cover other people's events.
Sometimes I take the pictures, I do the narrative, and
then I sometime I'll send it to the Truth News
paper Fletcher and I send it to him as well.
Speaker 1 (15:03):
Where do you have time?
Speaker 2 (15:06):
You take a pillow and blanket with you. No, they said,
how do you do social butterflies sleep? Yes, I sleep,
I sleep very well. Yeah, I get good rests. But
I plan everything. I have to write everything out.
Speaker 1 (15:18):
Some pretty good time management.
Speaker 2 (15:20):
Yes. If I didn't have time management, I don't think
this would work.
Speaker 1 (15:23):
Back in the day, I think they used to call
a day runner. Remember old day runners.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Yeah, yeah, I still have. It was not a day
runner I have. I have a calendar and then I
use my phone. Yeah, it gives me alert and I'm trying.
Like if I go to the airport, my friends they
laugh at me because I'm there two and a half
hours early. I'm not missing plane, ships, trains or nothing.
Speaker 1 (15:42):
I'm not a good place to work. It is Yeah
for me when I used to travel and speak a lot,
and I sit in the airport. What you're saying, not
maybe two hours, but at least an hour ahead of time?
Speaker 2 (15:52):
No, I'm coming two hours and you meet people too. Yeah,
but I can do something time management. I can check
my emails, I can respond to emails, I can make
phone calls. I can read a book. So you got
to just think because some people are like, I don't
want to say the person's name friend.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
It's on the tip of your tongue. Don't know.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
They don't believe in it's time. They're late, and then
they missed planes and they missed the cruise ship. I
can't do it. I'm not going to pay my money
for something and then missed out. It's just in my
mind to be on time. It's just something about that time. Yeah.
People say, well then that you don't have to be
there two hours early. If it's an international flight, I'm
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going to be there early.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Oh my goodness. Yes, yes, it's.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
No because you don't know even though you have the
TSA pre check and all that. They said you're too
time conscious. Someone told me that you're too time No,
you can never be too time conscious.
Speaker 1 (16:45):
So it seems like there's an air of excellence in
pretty much everything that you represent, in what represents you,
So that would kind of lend itself to excellence, I
mean time management. Being on time.
Speaker 2 (16:56):
Yeah. I even tell the vendors that because it says
it in that they're contract please be break down at
this time, start at this time.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
Have you ever had problems with that? I probably won't
have to ask you.
Speaker 2 (17:06):
Yes, yes, some people come late or sometimes no, people.
They don't no show, no call, want the money back? No, no, okay,
I don't hear from him nothing, no show, no call.
But I have a list of two thousand small vendors entrepreneur,
so that's on them, whatever the case may be. So
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I don't know they have to call me. I don't
know why you didn't show up.
Speaker 1 (17:32):
I know a question I had when we were talking
just a moment ago. Do you do paid promotions for
other events?
Speaker 2 (17:39):
Yes? No, Yes, for concerts through Live Nation Ticketmaster, yep. Cool,
that's what the contract though.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
No, yep, And most of that's probably in Detroit.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Mostly or different places. Like the guy in Alabama, he's
in Alabama. I'm in Toledo. One of the use here
in Toledo. I don't know if I can say their name.
They told him to reach out to me, and then
that's how I connected with ten promoters to promote their
events in their concerts. So that's been happening for a while.
Speaker 1 (18:12):
So operating and excellence kind of lends itself to connections.
They pretty much. So it sounds like you might need
some more help.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
I might need Assistan.
Speaker 1 (18:23):
Boy contacting that I can't promote it.
Speaker 2 (18:27):
I love promoting and marketing. I love. I don't know.
It's just a skill that I have. And I look,
they said, I'm the lady said you do well on
social media, she saidned to see all your stuff and
event up and coming events not only Lucas County, northwest Ohio,
surrounding areas.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
So on TikTok, Twitter, Twitch.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Yeah, I don't do. I do TikTok a lot on Instagram.
It's Facebook, but I don't do Twitter too much. I
have a Twitter account, but I don't.
Speaker 1 (18:52):
You said, wow, So three major events plus two fundraisers.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
That right, Yeah, this year is going to be one fundraiser.
Fundraisers I do sundressers and big hats and I give
Last year was to Bittersweet Farms. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (19:05):
I was going to ask, what's the cause?
Speaker 2 (19:07):
The sun dresses and big hats the cause of the
reason why I do the fundraisers to give back And
some of the nonprofits they don't get other fundings like
other nonprofits do, like from the state, or some have
like low minimum access to money and capital. So I
tried to give back in that way because they said,
well why did you how did you pick this group?
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And sometimes I put all the names in the hat
and shake it and let my kid pick it out.
And that's how I choose because I have thirty people
on the list, but I can't do thirty fundraisers. I'm
only one person.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
That's true. Yeah, well, I think you may be inspiring
others to kind of maybe well they're calling yeah, whatever
it may be. Yeah, So I guess next to the
last question or two or two maybe what do you
think the effect of the fourteen year journey plush has
been on both yourself? How have you kind of matured
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in it? Because if you do anything for a long
period of time, you're just going to get better and
better and better.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It seems like the growth has tremendous. I mean it
went fast because fourteen years, I'm like, oh my god,
I'm on year number five, number six. I'm like, first
I wanted to stop and take a break, but the
entrepreneurs a new startup businesses, they won't let you because
I wanted to take a break. But it seems like
it's more growth, prosperity and something to look for because
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you have more like ninety percent of women are entrepreneurs
and Lucas County here, I mean, I'm just saying all
over but in Toledo, you do see mostly when you
go to these shows, it's mostly females. You see very
few males, but maybe one or two three. But so,
I think the business entrepreneurs makes the world without the entrepreneurs.
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I know, you got the big box building like Stoose.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Come from originally entrepreneurs. They were those people coming to
your shows at one time.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Yes, yes, so I think it's the growth and the
prosperity over the years. And just keep continue to do
it as long as I can. Keeping you young, yeah,
keeping me busy, oh.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
See, she's modest. It's keeping you, yes, and active.
Speaker 2 (21:24):
It keeps it keeps me active, keep me moving. I
just I do enjoy. And then some people said, why
don't you take your show on the road. I did
that before. I know. A couple of cities reached out
to me to come to their city to do a
social butterfly expo.
Speaker 1 (21:38):
Yeah. Well I remember the Black Expo when when I
was young man, my father being an entrepreneur, we went
to Black Expo in Charlotte. We went and won in Atlanta.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
I don't know if they still do that, Yes they do, Okay, yeah,
they have women in Powerment and Expo. They have black
they have exposed Yeah, and they still do it.
Speaker 1 (21:57):
Yeah. And and was it the phone book thing is
similar to that, but it's like a book of businesses.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Yes, I remember that and those really positive things.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
That's the kind of stuff that we need to see.
So we do. Maybe you'll get enough help and you'll
take the show on the room. We need to do
that if it's your vision.
Speaker 2 (22:14):
Yeah, I did. I did a show in Michigan before
it was okay, yeah, you go down south.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
I haven't.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Yeah, I've been to Atlanta, but I haven't did any
shows in Atlanta. Oh okay, yeah, So we'll see. We'll
see what twenty twenty six will bring you. Ever know,
might be a surprise Charlotte, Atlanta, Yeah, Nashville maybe or Columbus. Yeah,
because Columbus is calling me now, Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 1 (22:40):
So what do you think your legacy is and what
would you like for it to be?
Speaker 2 (22:46):
My legacy would be too. If someone say, well, who
do you know Donnette Carter? I would say she likes
to advocate for others and promote for others and others brands,
And some people say, well, I don't promote myself because
you do enough of it. No, you know your brand
better than me. Yeah, like your brand here WGT you
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and Chris your production at you guys know your brand
better than I do. So, like I told the entrepreneurs,
they said, well, you're here and there and everywhere promoting
and marketing. You bring the people, but I don't know
the same people you know, So everybody knows different people.
We might have some people that we know each other together,
but I don't have your target audience. So I'm going
(23:30):
out doing all this promoting and marketing in the last
two weeks of the event. So the one entrepreneur she
told me, I don't promote myself. I said, oh, that's
not good. You should promote yourself. Yeah. Who knows your
brand better than you? You make candles?
Speaker 1 (23:43):
Your testimony is for you.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Yeah, for example, she makes candle. Who knows that you
make candles? She said nobody. I said, well that's why
you got to promote yourself. WHOA Yeah, I just promote
the entire event. Yeah, not just one individual. Yeah, so
my legacy, what if people want to know me by that,
I'd like to promote others and advocate for others.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Awesome, awesome, Well, thank you so much for joining us
for the Voices of Legacy. We really appreciate what you
do in the community in the city of Toledo. It's
a blessing to have folks that have a love for
the city and actually implemented what you were just talking about,
actually doing something to effectively spread what it is that
(24:26):
God has placed in your heart to do and helping
people help themselves. Really. Yeah, who knows, you might be
seating something for the next Walmart, Sam Walton or something ever. Yeah,
Macy's that you were talking about. But we look forward
to big things for you and hopefully you'll come back
and talk about some stuff that you're doing.
Speaker 2 (24:48):
Thank you for having me. I appreciate you.
Speaker 1 (25:02):
Thank you for listening to the Voices of a Legacy.
This is your friend, Pastor Karl Mitchell, the third your
hosts of this program. We want you to go to
WGTE dot org slash legacy to like, share, subscribe, and
hear all of our past podcast and our future podcast.
Be a friend and join with us the Voices of Legacy,
(25:26):
where you're writing your own legacy every day that you live.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
Have a blessed me, WGTE
Speaker 1 (26:02):
Voices around US WGT, supported in part by the American
Rescue Plan Act funds allocated by the City of Toledo
and the Lucas County Commissioners and administered by the Arts
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