August 8, 2024 • 32 mins
Celeste Mitchell, born on May 19, 1944, is a well-respected pastor in Toledo, Ohio. Alongside her husband, Bishop Joseph Mitchell, she leads Crusaders for Christ Church in East Toledo. Over the years, Celeste has developed a robust ministry focused on relationship counseling, drawing from her extensive experience and deep faith to guide couples and individuals in their personal and spiritual lives. Celeste is also known for her entrepreneurial spirit. For many years, she has been a successful businesswoman, selling clothing and hats at national conferences and locally in Toledo. Her unique sense of style and commitment to quality have made her a beloved figure in the community, both as a pastor and an entrepreneur. In addition to her work at the church and her business ventures, Celeste is a proud mother to Elder Tiffany Lewis, who is actively involved in ministry and community leadership. Together, they have facilitated leadership training workshops and have been recognized for their contributions to the spiritual and personal growth of many in their community.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Welcome to the Voices of Legacy. This is Pastor Carl
here WGT. We have a special guest in the building today,
a true honor and privilege to have all a Toledo
Legacy member, if you will, a legend, if that's not
too strong of a title, none other than Pastor Mitchell.
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I call her a Lady Celeste lovingly have known in
most of my life from a young age. I'm happy
to have her here to discuss the legacy and the
love that both her and her husband, Bishop Joseph Mitchell
share in ministry, in home, in life here in the
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great city of Toledo, Ohio. Good afternoon or evening or
morning whomever's listening to the Voices of Legacy, And good
afternoon to my guest today, Miss Lady Pastor Celeste Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh God, bless you, so honored to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Oh thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thanks for the invite.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh yes, well, I couldn't be here and not invite
people of influence that I know, and you're definitely one
of those.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
But tell us something about yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, I'm old.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well there's a conflict.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It was just for a last but it is the truth.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm not going to tell your age good okay, but
well preserved, well preserved, thank you. I wouldn't know it
but to see it in front of me. But a
little bit about your past and how you got to Toledo.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, I came here from New York My.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
City, s sir, New York City, proper.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yes, sir? Okay, right. My mom and dad had relocated
here from West Virginia. They had been separated, got back together.
Me and my mom were in in New York for
a while. When they got back together, she brought me
back here, and that's how I ended up in Toledo. See.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I always thought you were from the South.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well I am, I'm from West Virginia. It's somewhat south.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You see see how it sounds.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh yes, ma'am. You don't sound like a New York No.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right, Well I didn't live there a long time, just
a few years.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh okay, okay, so that that had to be quite
a bit of change.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It was. I I'm still getting used to Toledo. Oh wow,
it's very.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Slow, Yeah it is. How long have you been here?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
M bout sixty something years?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
M But we traveled a lot, so that gives me
a break, you know, M.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So your parents settled here in Toledo, Yes, sir, m okay,
al right, Well that's interesting. Now I didn't know that
you lived in New York at all, and I've known
you for a long time. That's awesome. So your experiences
as a child in all of what you actually there's
a lot to unpack in exactly what you said, the
separation and coming back together. How do you think that's
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affected you and your life?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, it's been a blessing. Really. It was not a
place I had inspired to come to or even realized
it was a Toledo, Ohio, and I often wondered why
I was here. But all the good things that have
happened to me happened in Toledo. Awesome, my husband being
one of those things, and the beautiful people that I've met.
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So it's a beautiful place for residing and having family.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Amazing. Tell us something about your husband.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, I still love him and I like him, and
that is not one and the same. You can love
and not like. Wow, but I do. I was a
person that was brought up in a dysfunction of home.
I didn't believe I could be loved because I never
heard the word love m and I'm getting to Joseph.
(04:09):
When I met Joseph, he kind of stalked me. Not really,
I didn't know it. Uh his pastor told him about me,
uh huh, and so he kind of followed me in
a s. I didn't know he was, like he he
come to our church, he'd come by my house. I was,
you know, was single at the time. But what he
was doing was watching me. I didn't know that to
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see what kind of church girl I was. I did this,
I found out later, and I do find out that
you all talking incrementry. I didn't get this full story.
Took me fifty some years to get the full story
of how he met me while he was interested in me.
And the first time that he called me on my
phone was to introduce hisself and tell me who he was,
Deca Mitchell, and he mentioned the church he went to,
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and he just announced to me that I was gonna
be his wife. Oh wow, I n I didn't. I
had seen him, but I didn't know who he was.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So the first telephone call, the first.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Call, so I said to him, I said, well, I
don't know who you are, but you either crazy or
you got a lot of faith. Now, to make a
long story short, he started calling me. I didn't let
him come to my house for a while, so he
would just call me in and introduce herself as a
decommissioned He wanted to speak to system at you. That
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was not my name. My name is was Terrell T
at the time, so he would make me laugh. So
make a long story short, since this is a a
l it's not this long to talk about that, by
and bye. After a while after him talking to me
on the phone and he invited me to dinner and
all that. In my mind, I'm thinking about this love thing.
One thing I found out about people, the things that
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happened to us in our lives. Some of it is
so traumatic that you kind of never forget it. Yeah,
and you you kind of hold it close to your chest,
and you kind of standing the office and you kind
of unsure yourself. It's a long lot go with that.
But anyway, that's the way I felt. Now, I didn't
look the part I look like I do now, you know,
But I I'm interested, and my problem was what was
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going on inside mm. So Joe says to me one day,
I'm gonna I'm gonna prove to you that I love you.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Now I was quiet at the time, I'm not now, uh,
he said he wished I was still that girl, but
I'm not now right like quiet quiet, I was quite inaverted,
low self esteem, smouth all the time, stayed dressed up.
Nobody knew what was going on inside wh I was broken.
Nobody knew that, but Joe did. He would talk to
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I called it the little girl in me. He didn't
know he was, but he would speak to things about me,
to me that impressed me and encouraged me. He didn't
know that. So one day he just said, I'm i'm'a
i'm'a proved to you I love you, and then my
m M.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Like.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
The reason I said I was quiet is I kind
of just always into dialogue cause I was always told
as a kid, shut up when we're not interested, uh,
be quiet. So that's why I was quiet, because I
felt like nobody was interested in what I had to say.
But what I found out what the reason for that.
Oftentimes when God is gonna use you, the devil attack
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the thing that God's gonna use you doing, and which
was talking, which was the last thing I thought I'd
be doing. So this is all a god thing. But
to make a long story short, is that in my
mind I said to him, I says, well, prove it
to myself. I didn't say it that out loud.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
He didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No. I always talked to him to myself an inner dialogue.
Still do. But I'm outgoing now, as you know, because
you've talked. We've talked a lot. But that was my
inter dialogue when he said that, well he did. That's that.
He still put it this way. I'm more into seeing
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you love me to hearing that you do. Now he
keeps proving, not that he has to, but over and
over again he proved to me that he do care
for me. You know that he do love me until now, Yes,
until now, fifty five years later. Uh, he's still doing. Amen,
ain't finna do church.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's all right.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But he convinced me that you know, and and he
and and he has not stopped. I think he thinks
he's my daddy. He telled me this. He said, well,
I've known your daddy. You you, I've known you longer
than your daddy have you have? You know? So I
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thank God for me. I appreciate him, and I let
him know that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
We appreciate Joseph Bishop uh Michell and his sense of
humor is amazing. One of these days we're going to
have to get him in here. Is amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes it is. He still took a big.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yes, there's been many times in my testimony has been
We've been in the pool, very humorous, behind somebody speaking,
and he'll say something that's absolutely true, but in the
mannerism of which he says it, all the ministers are
doubled over and nobody knows why. People probably think we're
hit with the spirit? Is Bishop Mitchell telling the truth?
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So you've been married to him for fifty five years?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Five years?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay? Okay, Well we're coming close to the revelation of
that age of which you don't like. What's the name
of your church here?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
In for Christ?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh? Wow? So how long have you been in ministry together?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Fifty years?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Okay? Wow? So was ministry part of the initial coming together?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, both of us were saved at the time. We
didn't know each other, but we, of course we got
to know one another. But we became ministers in the
church that we belonged to at the time. We were
both ordained at the churches that we were at the time,
and we did our first because a sermon together, not
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that we were called together, but at the same time.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, some of my best memories. Not that the funerals
is a good well for us, It's not necessarily a
bad thing for believers, but I've seen you guys tag
team on funerals and it is amazing. It's amazing to
see Bishop. This is something that I found out as
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I was doing my research. I've been calling him Bishop
Joseph Mitchell for a long time, but he was actually
ordained in our organization which we both share the same
organization in the National Bible way back in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It was either fourteen or sixteen.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, but we're calling him Bishop Mitchell. Before then, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
They were calling him elder. He was el deacon, elder
then Bishop.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
What do you think you've learned from a lot of
what you shared today, your background, some of the hurts
and whatnot. Because we know that well I know, and
I guess the audience doesn't know that you do a
lot of counseling as well. Your background it affected you
to a place where you can actually share your testimony.
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Has that proven to be a benefit in your counseling.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yes, it helped me to the things that all the
things that I went through that I didn't understand. Even
after being ill, say say we call save repenting knowing
Lord of Saving, I still cared a lot of things
that I didn't understand, and I ask God to this
is really helpful. It's it's correlating to what you asks me.
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Is that the being that I minister And seemingly surprisingly
most of the time, it's to men meaning this after
they talk to me a minute or two, they want
to call me mama, right because I really care and
I'm interested in them and I love them, and they
know it like a mama, and they initiate that, can
I call you mama. What I'm saying is this their
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express what they feel. On the handside and say, well,
you know I never told anybody this before. So what
I'm saying to you is this for me, I found
out which I didn't understand when I was coming up,
that justice I was the only kid lived with different
about fifteen people in their homes. You know, well, we
didn't have welfare, We just had the commodities. You ain't
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getting no money, y'all. Don't know nothing about that. But anyway,
all of these things that I experienced even after coming
to God, and this is one of the things that
I ministered most of people by when I'm counseling, is
that whatever your position is in the Lord or even
you know professionally, you still have that little girl and
boy and you and those things that you hold close
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to your chest that you do not share that some
of us it break us. Well, it was kind of
breaking me. And I had been saved, I know, for
about thirty years, you know, and I still couldn't get
over what happened to me. Why did it happen? And
me being the only child, why did the Lord allow
me to be born to people that didn't understand how
a kid that know how to raise a kid didn't
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know how to love. But I found out that you
can get what you want if you give it. You
know what I'm saying, And you also know what you
want because you realize what you didn't have, and you
can put a name on it. You can say if
you know, I wish somebody loved me. I wish somebody cared.
I wish somebody would listen to me. I wish somebody
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had time for me. I wish my parents or whoever
would be expressive to me. So partaking. So what you
can do with that, you know how to share that
with other people because you know what that would feel like,
even though you haven't experienced it, you know it would
be a nice thing or a good thing or a
pleasant experience. So in giving it, and that's what I do,
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I give you what I didn't get, and I get
jo from that, see what I'm saying, because I know
how that would make you feel. Because in my mind,
I imagine how I would feel if I was treated
that way, and then all these things in these homes
that I were in. I'm an advantageist also meaning this,
I don't meet no strangers. It was my making, you
know what I'm saying. Blessed, thank God that the people
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treated me like the daughter. You know, I was not
taking advantage of it. Then I was amen, glory till
you I told you, I'll go there anyway. I stayed
under the adults in the home and I just watched.
So in watching families, you know how families at nobody
it's the same. So I learned a lot from that
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and interacting with people. I learned a lot from that.
So the thing that we sometimes think is a disadvantage,
it's really your preparation. It's like a resume and you
need experience. You need to know what the job is like.
You need to know how another person feel, you need
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to know how to and don't know when you're looking
out on the inside, just like this issue. I'm having
a little problem with my health and I've been saved
a long time, and I prayed for people God and
delivering them and you know the story. Looking at I go.
But I was meaning this. This is still relating to
what you ask me. I'm still because I hadn't ever
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in my life experienced anything requarse to my body that
helped me. Awhile never because I believe God. I believe
he can do anything where I have faith in God.
You not we do so ah man, I was a
little but I'm not understanding what to feel like on that,
what that person feeling like. I was real, almost fanatical
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in a sense, believe God. God is able to trust
God where your faith Not that I'm fussing, but I'm like,
he gonna just do it. You know what you're about
this terror? You know that will chair whatever, not fussing
or whatever, but in this spirit, me calling, in this
spirit what had happened with this this experience that I'm
dealing with Now? I learned something that what I'm saying
to you us brother, everything that we experience, if we
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back a minute, back up a minute and ask God,
what is the what you're trying to say? What's the
lesson in this? What am I to learned from this
this experience?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So that's a better prayer than to pray for or
complain about not healing, to gain understanding and all you're getting.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You know what I'm telling God, Thank you. I know
now the internal mental fight that you have. Wow, what's
going on with your trust factor? When he don't come
as soon as you think he all because he said
he's a ret. Now, God, if you just ask me
how to do it? What either I can't do Now
those are printed words, but those things have to live
be lived through. And so the things, everything that I
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have experienced, the good, the bad, ugly. I thank God
for it because it has blessed so many people. They'll
say to me, because like I said, I was very introverted.
Nobody knew other than my demeanor in I interacted with people,
so they saw the difference. So now they say, back
when this happened years ago, when the Lord delivered me
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meaning this because I wanted to. It was so bad
for me that I said to God, nobody knew this.
But family loved me, my church loved me, my husband
with kids. But it was so rough, this fight in
here till I said to God, after about thirty or
forty years being safe having the hol agost, and see
I have found this out. You can have all of that,
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but you still got to deal with that natural man.
You still got to go into places where you need
deliverance and some help. Now nobody knew that. But and
I smiled all the time. That was my cover. I
said to God, I said, if you don't get this
off of me, I can't get this out of my heart.
I don't know how to change me. I don't know
how to help me. I said, I can't do this
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no more. I can't keep smiling and hurting and wondering
why I can't do it no more, I said to him,
I said, if you don't get this out of me,
I don't want to live no more. I can't. I
just can't. I can't do it no more. What God did.
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He didn't do it that day, But through a process
of time, I could feel myself not being able to
come out of what you're fighting quicker. I could see
the growth. I could see the change. I could see
he was helping me. And one night. This went like
three or four months because I would say to him,
I I feel what you're doing. I am better, but
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it's not all gone. I want no more of this.
It ain't all gone. I wanted out. I had this
so bad. If I saw somebody smile on TV would
make me cry. Wow, you know if I saw you happy,
I said to him, I'm not Joe, ain't full, you know.
He said, I would to your job before. I said, Lord,
the other things it's holding me down. I it ain't
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full like you promised. I said. I wanted it like
the Bible said, and I don't. And I want that.
You said you replaced. How sorry? We want you with joy?
I said, I want that. God delivered me to the
point that I c I felt the expression of deliverance
in my spirit, in my body, and my mind, in
my heart. I said to him, most of you know
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what I'm saying. But he touched me in my bed
one night, and I could just feel the presence of
the Lord when I stepped out of my bed, the
spirit of God. I couldn't shout at church. I'd just
be sitting looking at people. I wish I could do that.
I wish I was free like them. But I'm just smiling.
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When my feet hit that floor. I jumped around at
that bedroom. I said, how can I keep this? How
can I keep this? He said, walking to liberty where?
And I've set you free, for you are no longer
entangled with the yoga boundaries ever since then, the experience Catterpillar,
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it was more of an experience of greater than anything,
even except than God. It was greater than that because
I was free, I said to him. A few months later,
I thought to myself, he can't get no better than this. Oh,
I just felt so good. I could anybody I saw
in the grocery store. I could just go grab you,
just everybody. This is my friend, everybody, my cousin. You
know what I'm saying. They be like, girl, I just
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love you. I be like, I love you too. I'd
be like, I can't believe myself. I be I remember
with Joseph. We was married for a long time. Anything
he said, I'd be like, okay, alright, but when God
delivered me. We were at Cracker Bear one time. This
was after and uh. He he could say that that
wor wall is purple. But I always talked to myself
and I say to myself that wall ain't purple, that
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wallet is is beige. And then I and then but
I'd be like, oh, okay, then the way you look
cares patters the God for me deliver me. We were
at Cracker Bear and he said something to me and I, uh,
just a conversation. And I looked at him and I says,
I don't agree.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Mm.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
He said what he said, what happened to you?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You've changed?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
He's what happened to you? I said, I don't know,
but I like it. So a few months later he said,
oh mine, you the food around and got grown on me.
But honey, ever since then, it's been a journey. Now.
The last thing after that, I was really happy in
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my soul and free as a bird in my spirit.
And I still am. I can have church, y'll by myself.
I can be happy just because I may be cause
I have I choose to yes anyway like that. Sunday once,
after this, all this wonderful stuff, at the altar before service,
I said to the Lord, I said, Lord, what about
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my mom and dad? Did they ever realize how abusive mentally, physically,
verbally they were to me? My mama will sit me
out with no clothes on in the snow on the porch.
It would just if I'd like to reach He tear
him up, burn him up, just kind of crazy. I said, Lord,
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wonder they dope oth dead? I said, wonder were they
sorry or did they ever realize the things they did
to me? He said to me, he said let him go.
I said, let im go? How you do that? I said,
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they gone? He said, Now, when I say that to
people listening, it ain't like he stood in the middle
of the room and were having a conversation. It's in
a dialogue that makes sense. I says. He says, release them.
I said, Hi, to release them? He said, yes, forgive them.
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I says, okay. I said, Mama, it's okay, Mama gone.
God is real and that that I'm free now from that.
But I just wondered about that, and I thought, when
God blessed me that morning, and then continued afterwards that
he couldn't get no better. When I said to him,
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I said, Mama, it's okay. I forgive you, Bama. You
didn't have to say you were sorry. If I had
on pants, I'd have jumped up from the art and
fell out in the floor like a roache. You know
how roaches like this. You fee both of his legs.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The Holy Spirit hit you like.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Oh man, I I like Oprah, that ugly crime. I
was so glad it wasn't about it, and I thought
I felt like I could swing from the oh man, Wow,
but you were free. I was like, he couldn't. I
thought it couldn't get no better. Yes, it was the
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best experience of release I've ever had. So that is
some of the things I did with people, Bishops, people
that travel over all the world, people that I got
a friend that if she walks in the room, everybody
was standing up because you act like a celebrity talk
walk on. But when they seck talk to me by
me being vulnerable and transparent, they'll tell me that other side,
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and they're just like everybody else, the truth, the truth.
They just let everybody, so they're comfortable with just telling
me because I understand. Yes, I know where to feel
like and I know what God can do. And you
don't have to stay in the place. You have to
address it. This is one thing I say all the time,
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knowing God is great. But there's life after church. Yes,
it's life when you go home. They're not wanting the same.
And so often ministry people, especially you all men, God
bless your hearts. You get so caught up in the
work of God that you don't have it. And we
know that you can only have so much of you
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to give, and if you deplete it and give it
all to everything else, you ain't got much left. So
as a result, do you realize I'm the force righting?
It's just as high as anybody else. Yes, you know
what I'm saying. Why because we don't understand the necessary
You married your husband or your wife for a reason.
You know what I'm saying to say, to be together
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with them, to be one, to be the confident, to
be to have a relationship, for you to understand me,
for you to feel me, for you to be there
for me, for you to love me, for you to
appreciate for me and me, you to affirm me. You
know what I'm saying, that's why we got each other,
that we got each other's back, that we care genuinely.
When I say this all the time, just like we
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say as women, Tell me you love me, tell me
you grateful, to affirm me, tell me you appreciate me,
tell me you want the kids, Tell whatever it is
you want. Here we saying that to him, But I
say to men, or to the to the woman, say
that to him. You was asking you can get what
you want from the man if you give it to hint, Yes,
if you say thanking your sad back, h if you
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affirm him, here firmed you. My husband was constry to
the point that he ain't do nothing to get in
the house because everything was for a woman job and
a man job. That's for woman to do. Now what
I did with Joe, Joe won't bring you a glass
of water. He was like, get it yourself. You got feed.
But I understood his background. His parents were chair croppers.
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They didn't and he told me when we would calling
these sister celests, he said, I ain't got manners. You
know what I'm saying. He said, But I'm gonna do
the best I can. I like that about him. He
was transparent. He's but I'm gonna give you the best
of me, he said. But I wasn't raised that way,
and I understood that when he was like that. But
what I would do, I would run his bath, saw
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that I still do, fix his plate, salt, this eggs creaming.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
This coff So you gave him what you would want.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Uh huh everything I'm doing. And I didn't say nothing
because I understood where he was from. But see, some
women don't understand that, m so as a result, they
don't know how to handle that. Yeah, So what I
would do is c I knew what I and I
another thing I found. You have to aks you all
instead to tell you. Now that's a turn off. You
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know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, why don't you and
want wh where will you? When will you do it?
And why don't you do it? Then why haven't you
done it? Then you shut this out? Oh yeah, all
you got to say is, baby, bring me a glass
of water. Thank you. Hont mm that's a directive, I
think without thinking. Yeah, with I thinking, he'll just say
here you go, and you don't have to say, well,
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it's by time you find it. Brought me some said
thank you, babe. Yeah. Now if Joe Washington dishes she did,
I don't say nothing. You can't go like, well I
just smiled and said thank you to myself. You know
what I'm saying. But you get what you want exactly,
and you get what and you'll get it and you'll
get it back. Goodness that goes on. But like I said,
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God is blessed me, but I blessed him. It ain't
one sided. Yeah, Like if I want to hug, I
tell women all the time. You want him to hug,
you go hug and me hug you back. Yeah, you
know that's as simple as that. You want to kiss,
get you want?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, kiss me.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Just prop your mouf up there, just grab his face
and kiss it. That's it and you got it.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, I think there's a whole lot of amen's going
on right now with our listeners. Well, we thank you
so much for joining us today and sharing the testimony
of your life which is still going on, is still
going on. I think there's much to be done with
that breakthrough. If you ever wrote a book from hurt
to help, I think would be a good title because
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you help a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yes, I truly talk to a lot of people about it.
You'd be surprised because I don't Knoway wasn't about it.
Look like how they dressed up, the color they are,
how much money they got. They got some stuff going on,
and they have to be they're careful of who they
trust their heart with. Even our wife, y'all careful who
you trust, what you really think to her? Oh yeah,
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because you don't know if you can trust what's there
with her. You don't want her to go tell her
mom and her differend.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
There's nothing worse than weaponized information.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Y'all carry your stuff close to your chest.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
We do.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You know when you're careful about who you share your
in the most thoughts with.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's true. Well, to wrap up our show today, and
I'm so thankful again for you joining with us today
because you being here is like Joseph being here, who's
still with us, he's just not in studio today being
with us as well. We're so thankful for you both
both myself personally in the community at larger Your church
has done so much over the millennia, as it were
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the years over on the East Side. Now, one last question,
and this one's gonna have to be fairly short. I
do apologize. What do you think your legacy is both
of you and what would you like for it to be?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That I cared enough to share me with people, anybody.
You know what I'm saying, Yes, to be a help
to humanity. That that's my deg I say yes, you
call me. I'm there. If you need to show that
you got one, you need to ear you got mine.
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I wanted those things, I got it down. But now
I'm willing to share it, and you're giving and I'm
giving it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
That's amazing, amazing, amazing, good story. I have a blessed
that I bless you.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Thank you for the thank.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Thank you for listening to the Voices of a Legacy.
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Speaker 2 (31:50):
WGT Voices around us. WGT supported in part by the
American Rescue Plan Act funds allocated by the City of
Toledo and the Lucas County Commissioners, and ministered by the
Arts commission
Welcome to the Voices of Legacy. This is Pastor Carl
here WGT. We have a special guest in the building today,
a true honor and privilege to have all a Toledo
Legacy member, if you will, a legend, if that's not
too strong of a title, none other than Pastor Mitchell.
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I call her a Lady Celeste lovingly have known in
most of my life from a young age. I'm happy
to have her here to discuss the legacy and the
love that both her and her husband, Bishop Joseph Mitchell
share in ministry, in home, in life here in the
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great city of Toledo, Ohio. Good afternoon or evening or
morning whomever's listening to the Voices of Legacy, And good
afternoon to my guest today, Miss Lady Pastor Celeste Mitchell.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Oh God, bless you, so honored to be here.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Oh thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thanks for the invite.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Oh yes, well, I couldn't be here and not invite
people of influence that I know, and you're definitely one
of those.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
But tell us something about yourself.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Well, I'm old.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Well there's a conflict.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
It was just for a last but it is the truth.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
I'm not going to tell your age good okay, but
well preserved, well preserved, thank you. I wouldn't know it
but to see it in front of me. But a
little bit about your past and how you got to Toledo.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Well, I came here from New York My.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
City, s sir, New York City, proper.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Yes, sir? Okay, right. My mom and dad had relocated
here from West Virginia. They had been separated, got back together.
Me and my mom were in in New York for
a while. When they got back together, she brought me
back here, and that's how I ended up in Toledo. See.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
I always thought you were from the South.
Speaker 2 (02:25):
Well I am, I'm from West Virginia. It's somewhat south.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
You see see how it sounds.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
Oh yes, ma'am. You don't sound like a New York No.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Right, Well I didn't live there a long time, just
a few years.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
Oh okay, okay, so that that had to be quite
a bit of change.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
It was. I I'm still getting used to Toledo. Oh wow,
it's very.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Slow, Yeah it is. How long have you been here?
Speaker 2 (02:47):
M bout sixty something years?
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Oh wow?
Speaker 2 (02:50):
M But we traveled a lot, so that gives me
a break, you know, M.
Speaker 1 (02:54):
So your parents settled here in Toledo, Yes, sir, m okay,
al right, Well that's interesting. Now I didn't know that
you lived in New York at all, and I've known
you for a long time. That's awesome. So your experiences
as a child in all of what you actually there's
a lot to unpack in exactly what you said, the
separation and coming back together. How do you think that's
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affected you and your life?
Speaker 2 (03:18):
Well, it's been a blessing. Really. It was not a
place I had inspired to come to or even realized
it was a Toledo, Ohio, and I often wondered why
I was here. But all the good things that have
happened to me happened in Toledo. Awesome, my husband being
one of those things, and the beautiful people that I've met.
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So it's a beautiful place for residing and having family.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Amazing. Tell us something about your husband.
Speaker 2 (03:46):
Well, I still love him and I like him, and
that is not one and the same. You can love
and not like. Wow, but I do. I was a
person that was brought up in a dysfunction of home.
I didn't believe I could be loved because I never
heard the word love m and I'm getting to Joseph.
(04:09):
When I met Joseph, he kind of stalked me. Not really,
I didn't know it. Uh his pastor told him about me,
uh huh, and so he kind of followed me in
a s. I didn't know he was, like he he
come to our church, he'd come by my house. I was,
you know, was single at the time. But what he
was doing was watching me. I didn't know that to
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see what kind of church girl I was. I did this,
I found out later, and I do find out that
you all talking incrementry. I didn't get this full story.
Took me fifty some years to get the full story
of how he met me while he was interested in me.
And the first time that he called me on my
phone was to introduce hisself and tell me who he was,
Deca Mitchell, and he mentioned the church he went to,
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and he just announced to me that I was gonna
be his wife. Oh wow, I n I didn't. I
had seen him, but I didn't know who he was.
Speaker 1 (04:58):
So the first telephone call, the first.
Speaker 2 (05:00):
Call, so I said to him, I said, well, I
don't know who you are, but you either crazy or
you got a lot of faith. Now, to make a
long story short, he started calling me. I didn't let
him come to my house for a while, so he
would just call me in and introduce herself as a
decommissioned He wanted to speak to system at you. That
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was not my name. My name is was Terrell T
at the time, so he would make me laugh. So
make a long story short, since this is a a
l it's not this long to talk about that, by
and bye. After a while after him talking to me
on the phone and he invited me to dinner and
all that. In my mind, I'm thinking about this love thing.
One thing I found out about people, the things that
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happened to us in our lives. Some of it is
so traumatic that you kind of never forget it. Yeah,
and you you kind of hold it close to your chest,
and you kind of standing the office and you kind
of unsure yourself. It's a long lot go with that.
But anyway, that's the way I felt. Now, I didn't
look the part I look like I do now, you know,
But I I'm interested, and my problem was what was
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going on inside mm. So Joe says to me one day,
I'm gonna I'm gonna prove to you that I love you.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
Hm.
Speaker 2 (06:15):
Now I was quiet at the time, I'm not now, uh,
he said he wished I was still that girl, but
I'm not now right like quiet quiet, I was quite inaverted,
low self esteem, smouth all the time, stayed dressed up.
Nobody knew what was going on inside wh I was broken.
Nobody knew that, but Joe did. He would talk to
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I called it the little girl in me. He didn't
know he was, but he would speak to things about me,
to me that impressed me and encouraged me. He didn't
know that. So one day he just said, I'm i'm'a
i'm'a proved to you I love you, and then my
m M.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
Like.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
The reason I said I was quiet is I kind
of just always into dialogue cause I was always told
as a kid, shut up when we're not interested, uh,
be quiet. So that's why I was quiet, because I
felt like nobody was interested in what I had to say.
But what I found out what the reason for that.
Oftentimes when God is gonna use you, the devil attack
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the thing that God's gonna use you doing, and which
was talking, which was the last thing I thought I'd
be doing. So this is all a god thing. But
to make a long story short, is that in my
mind I said to him, I says, well, prove it
to myself. I didn't say it that out loud.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
He didn't.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
No. I always talked to him to myself an inner dialogue.
Still do. But I'm outgoing now, as you know, because
you've talked. We've talked a lot. But that was my
inter dialogue when he said that, well he did. That's that.
He still put it this way. I'm more into seeing
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you love me to hearing that you do. Now he
keeps proving, not that he has to, but over and
over again he proved to me that he do care
for me. You know that he do love me until now, Yes,
until now, fifty five years later. Uh, he's still doing. Amen,
ain't finna do church.
Speaker 1 (08:12):
That's all right.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
But he convinced me that you know, and and he
and and he has not stopped. I think he thinks
he's my daddy. He telled me this. He said, well,
I've known your daddy. You you, I've known you longer
than your daddy have you have? You know? So I
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thank God for me. I appreciate him, and I let
him know that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
We appreciate Joseph Bishop uh Michell and his sense of
humor is amazing. One of these days we're going to
have to get him in here. Is amazing.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
Yes it is. He still took a big.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
Yes, there's been many times in my testimony has been
We've been in the pool, very humorous, behind somebody speaking,
and he'll say something that's absolutely true, but in the
mannerism of which he says it, all the ministers are
doubled over and nobody knows why. People probably think we're
hit with the spirit? Is Bishop Mitchell telling the truth?
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So you've been married to him for fifty five years?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Five years?
Speaker 1 (09:16):
Okay? Okay, Well we're coming close to the revelation of
that age of which you don't like. What's the name
of your church here?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
In for Christ?
Speaker 1 (09:25):
Oh? Wow? So how long have you been in ministry together?
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Fifty years?
Speaker 1 (09:30):
Okay? Wow? So was ministry part of the initial coming together?
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Well, both of us were saved at the time. We
didn't know each other, but we, of course we got
to know one another. But we became ministers in the
church that we belonged to at the time. We were
both ordained at the churches that we were at the time,
and we did our first because a sermon together, not
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that we were called together, but at the same time.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Yeah, some of my best memories. Not that the funerals
is a good well for us, It's not necessarily a
bad thing for believers, but I've seen you guys tag
team on funerals and it is amazing. It's amazing to
see Bishop. This is something that I found out as
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I was doing my research. I've been calling him Bishop
Joseph Mitchell for a long time, but he was actually
ordained in our organization which we both share the same
organization in the National Bible way back in twenty fourteen.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
It was either fourteen or sixteen.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Yeah, but we're calling him Bishop Mitchell. Before then, I think.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
They were calling him elder. He was el deacon, elder
then Bishop.
Speaker 1 (10:50):
What do you think you've learned from a lot of
what you shared today, your background, some of the hurts
and whatnot. Because we know that well I know, and
I guess the audience doesn't know that you do a
lot of counseling as well. Your background it affected you
to a place where you can actually share your testimony.
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Has that proven to be a benefit in your counseling.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
Yes, it helped me to the things that all the
things that I went through that I didn't understand. Even
after being ill, say say we call save repenting knowing
Lord of Saving, I still cared a lot of things
that I didn't understand, and I ask God to this
is really helpful. It's it's correlating to what you asks me.
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Is that the being that I minister And seemingly surprisingly
most of the time, it's to men meaning this after
they talk to me a minute or two, they want
to call me mama, right because I really care and
I'm interested in them and I love them, and they
know it like a mama, and they initiate that, can
I call you mama. What I'm saying is this their
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express what they feel. On the handside and say, well,
you know I never told anybody this before. So what
I'm saying to you is this for me, I found
out which I didn't understand when I was coming up,
that justice I was the only kid lived with different
about fifteen people in their homes. You know, well, we
didn't have welfare, We just had the commodities. You ain't
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getting no money, y'all. Don't know nothing about that. But anyway,
all of these things that I experienced even after coming
to God, and this is one of the things that
I ministered most of people by when I'm counseling, is
that whatever your position is in the Lord or even
you know professionally, you still have that little girl and
boy and you and those things that you hold close
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to your chest that you do not share that some
of us it break us. Well, it was kind of
breaking me. And I had been saved, I know, for
about thirty years, you know, and I still couldn't get
over what happened to me. Why did it happen? And
me being the only child, why did the Lord allow
me to be born to people that didn't understand how
a kid that know how to raise a kid didn't
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know how to love. But I found out that you
can get what you want if you give it. You
know what I'm saying, And you also know what you
want because you realize what you didn't have, and you
can put a name on it. You can say if
you know, I wish somebody loved me. I wish somebody cared.
I wish somebody would listen to me. I wish somebody
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had time for me. I wish my parents or whoever
would be expressive to me. So partaking. So what you
can do with that, you know how to share that
with other people because you know what that would feel like,
even though you haven't experienced it, you know it would
be a nice thing or a good thing or a
pleasant experience. So in giving it, and that's what I do,
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I give you what I didn't get, and I get
jo from that, see what I'm saying, because I know
how that would make you feel. Because in my mind,
I imagine how I would feel if I was treated
that way, and then all these things in these homes
that I were in. I'm an advantageist also meaning this,
I don't meet no strangers. It was my making, you
know what I'm saying. Blessed, thank God that the people
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treated me like the daughter. You know, I was not
taking advantage of it. Then I was amen, glory till
you I told you, I'll go there anyway. I stayed
under the adults in the home and I just watched.
So in watching families, you know how families at nobody
it's the same. So I learned a lot from that
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and interacting with people. I learned a lot from that.
So the thing that we sometimes think is a disadvantage,
it's really your preparation. It's like a resume and you
need experience. You need to know what the job is like.
You need to know how another person feel, you need
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to know how to and don't know when you're looking
out on the inside, just like this issue. I'm having
a little problem with my health and I've been saved
a long time, and I prayed for people God and
delivering them and you know the story. Looking at I go.
But I was meaning this. This is still relating to
what you ask me. I'm still because I hadn't ever
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in my life experienced anything requarse to my body that
helped me. Awhile never because I believe God. I believe
he can do anything where I have faith in God.
You not we do so ah man, I was a
little but I'm not understanding what to feel like on that,
what that person feeling like. I was real, almost fanatical
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in a sense, believe God. God is able to trust
God where your faith Not that I'm fussing, but I'm like,
he gonna just do it. You know what you're about
this terror? You know that will chair whatever, not fussing
or whatever, but in this spirit, me calling, in this
spirit what had happened with this this experience that I'm
dealing with Now? I learned something that what I'm saying
to you us brother, everything that we experience, if we
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back a minute, back up a minute and ask God,
what is the what you're trying to say? What's the
lesson in this? What am I to learned from this
this experience?
Speaker 1 (16:00):
So that's a better prayer than to pray for or
complain about not healing, to gain understanding and all you're getting.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
You know what I'm telling God, Thank you. I know
now the internal mental fight that you have. Wow, what's
going on with your trust factor? When he don't come
as soon as you think he all because he said
he's a ret. Now, God, if you just ask me
how to do it? What either I can't do Now
those are printed words, but those things have to live
be lived through. And so the things, everything that I
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have experienced, the good, the bad, ugly. I thank God
for it because it has blessed so many people. They'll
say to me, because like I said, I was very introverted.
Nobody knew other than my demeanor in I interacted with people,
so they saw the difference. So now they say, back
when this happened years ago, when the Lord delivered me
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meaning this because I wanted to. It was so bad
for me that I said to God, nobody knew this.
But family loved me, my church loved me, my husband
with kids. But it was so rough, this fight in
here till I said to God, after about thirty or
forty years being safe having the hol agost, and see
I have found this out. You can have all of that,
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but you still got to deal with that natural man.
You still got to go into places where you need
deliverance and some help. Now nobody knew that. But and
I smiled all the time. That was my cover. I
said to God, I said, if you don't get this
off of me, I can't get this out of my heart.
I don't know how to change me. I don't know
how to help me. I said, I can't do this
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no more. I can't keep smiling and hurting and wondering
why I can't do it no more, I said to him,
I said, if you don't get this out of me,
I don't want to live no more. I can't. I
just can't. I can't do it no more. What God did.
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He didn't do it that day, But through a process
of time, I could feel myself not being able to
come out of what you're fighting quicker. I could see
the growth. I could see the change. I could see
he was helping me. And one night. This went like
three or four months because I would say to him,
I I feel what you're doing. I am better, but
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it's not all gone. I want no more of this.
It ain't all gone. I wanted out. I had this
so bad. If I saw somebody smile on TV would
make me cry. Wow, you know if I saw you happy,
I said to him, I'm not Joe, ain't full, you know.
He said, I would to your job before. I said, Lord,
the other things it's holding me down. I it ain't
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full like you promised. I said. I wanted it like
the Bible said, and I don't. And I want that.
You said you replaced. How sorry? We want you with joy?
I said, I want that. God delivered me to the
point that I c I felt the expression of deliverance
in my spirit, in my body, and my mind, in
my heart. I said to him, most of you know
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what I'm saying. But he touched me in my bed
one night, and I could just feel the presence of
the Lord when I stepped out of my bed, the
spirit of God. I couldn't shout at church. I'd just
be sitting looking at people. I wish I could do that.
I wish I was free like them. But I'm just smiling.
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When my feet hit that floor. I jumped around at
that bedroom. I said, how can I keep this? How
can I keep this? He said, walking to liberty where?
And I've set you free, for you are no longer
entangled with the yoga boundaries ever since then, the experience Catterpillar,
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it was more of an experience of greater than anything,
even except than God. It was greater than that because
I was free, I said to him. A few months later,
I thought to myself, he can't get no better than this. Oh,
I just felt so good. I could anybody I saw
in the grocery store. I could just go grab you,
just everybody. This is my friend, everybody, my cousin. You
know what I'm saying. They be like, girl, I just
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love you. I be like, I love you too. I'd
be like, I can't believe myself. I be I remember
with Joseph. We was married for a long time. Anything
he said, I'd be like, okay, alright, but when God
delivered me. We were at Cracker Bear one time. This
was after and uh. He he could say that that
wor wall is purple. But I always talked to myself
and I say to myself that wall ain't purple, that
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wallet is is beige. And then I and then but
I'd be like, oh, okay, then the way you look
cares patters the God for me deliver me. We were
at Cracker Bear and he said something to me and I, uh,
just a conversation. And I looked at him and I says,
I don't agree.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
Mm.
Speaker 2 (20:57):
He said what he said, what happened to you?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
You've changed?
Speaker 2 (21:03):
He's what happened to you? I said, I don't know,
but I like it. So a few months later he said,
oh mine, you the food around and got grown on me.
But honey, ever since then, it's been a journey. Now.
The last thing after that, I was really happy in
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my soul and free as a bird in my spirit.
And I still am. I can have church, y'll by myself.
I can be happy just because I may be cause
I have I choose to yes anyway like that. Sunday once,
after this, all this wonderful stuff, at the altar before service,
I said to the Lord, I said, Lord, what about
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my mom and dad? Did they ever realize how abusive mentally, physically,
verbally they were to me? My mama will sit me
out with no clothes on in the snow on the porch.
It would just if I'd like to reach He tear
him up, burn him up, just kind of crazy. I said, Lord,
(22:08):
wonder they dope oth dead? I said, wonder were they
sorry or did they ever realize the things they did
to me? He said to me, he said let him go.
I said, let im go? How you do that? I said,
(22:29):
they gone? He said, Now, when I say that to
people listening, it ain't like he stood in the middle
of the room and were having a conversation. It's in
a dialogue that makes sense. I says. He says, release them.
I said, Hi, to release them? He said, yes, forgive them.
(22:50):
I says, okay. I said, Mama, it's okay, Mama gone.
God is real and that that I'm free now from that.
But I just wondered about that, and I thought, when
God blessed me that morning, and then continued afterwards that
he couldn't get no better. When I said to him,
(23:14):
I said, Mama, it's okay. I forgive you, Bama. You
didn't have to say you were sorry. If I had
on pants, I'd have jumped up from the art and
fell out in the floor like a roache. You know
how roaches like this. You fee both of his legs.
Speaker 1 (23:38):
The Holy Spirit hit you like.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
Oh man, I I like Oprah, that ugly crime. I
was so glad it wasn't about it, and I thought
I felt like I could swing from the oh man, Wow,
but you were free. I was like, he couldn't. I
thought it couldn't get no better. Yes, it was the
(24:02):
best experience of release I've ever had. So that is
some of the things I did with people, Bishops, people
that travel over all the world, people that I got
a friend that if she walks in the room, everybody
was standing up because you act like a celebrity talk
walk on. But when they seck talk to me by
me being vulnerable and transparent, they'll tell me that other side,
(24:27):
and they're just like everybody else, the truth, the truth.
They just let everybody, so they're comfortable with just telling
me because I understand. Yes, I know where to feel
like and I know what God can do. And you
don't have to stay in the place. You have to
address it. This is one thing I say all the time,
(24:49):
knowing God is great. But there's life after church. Yes,
it's life when you go home. They're not wanting the same.
And so often ministry people, especially you all men, God
bless your hearts. You get so caught up in the
work of God that you don't have it. And we
know that you can only have so much of you
(25:11):
to give, and if you deplete it and give it
all to everything else, you ain't got much left. So
as a result, do you realize I'm the force righting?
It's just as high as anybody else. Yes, you know
what I'm saying. Why because we don't understand the necessary
You married your husband or your wife for a reason.
You know what I'm saying to say, to be together
(25:32):
with them, to be one, to be the confident, to
be to have a relationship, for you to understand me,
for you to feel me, for you to be there
for me, for you to love me, for you to
appreciate for me and me, you to affirm me. You
know what I'm saying, that's why we got each other,
that we got each other's back, that we care genuinely.
When I say this all the time, just like we
(25:53):
say as women, Tell me you love me, tell me
you grateful, to affirm me, tell me you appreciate me,
tell me you want the kids, Tell whatever it is
you want. Here we saying that to him, But I
say to men, or to the to the woman, say
that to him. You was asking you can get what
you want from the man if you give it to hint, Yes,
if you say thanking your sad back, h if you
(26:15):
affirm him, here firmed you. My husband was constry to
the point that he ain't do nothing to get in
the house because everything was for a woman job and
a man job. That's for woman to do. Now what
I did with Joe, Joe won't bring you a glass
of water. He was like, get it yourself. You got feed.
But I understood his background. His parents were chair croppers.
(26:37):
They didn't and he told me when we would calling
these sister celests, he said, I ain't got manners. You
know what I'm saying. He said, But I'm gonna do
the best I can. I like that about him. He
was transparent. He's but I'm gonna give you the best
of me, he said. But I wasn't raised that way,
and I understood that when he was like that. But
what I would do, I would run his bath, saw
(26:58):
that I still do, fix his plate, salt, this eggs creaming.
Speaker 1 (27:02):
This coff So you gave him what you would want.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
Uh huh everything I'm doing. And I didn't say nothing
because I understood where he was from. But see, some
women don't understand that, m so as a result, they
don't know how to handle that. Yeah, So what I
would do is c I knew what I and I
another thing I found. You have to aks you all
instead to tell you. Now that's a turn off. You
(27:27):
know what I'm saying? Oh yeah, why don't you and
want wh where will you? When will you do it?
And why don't you do it? Then why haven't you
done it? Then you shut this out? Oh yeah, all
you got to say is, baby, bring me a glass
of water. Thank you. Hont mm that's a directive, I
think without thinking. Yeah, with I thinking, he'll just say
here you go, and you don't have to say, well,
(27:48):
it's by time you find it. Brought me some said
thank you, babe. Yeah. Now if Joe Washington dishes she did,
I don't say nothing. You can't go like, well I
just smiled and said thank you to myself. You know
what I'm saying. But you get what you want exactly,
and you get what and you'll get it and you'll
get it back. Goodness that goes on. But like I said,
(28:10):
God is blessed me, but I blessed him. It ain't
one sided. Yeah, Like if I want to hug, I
tell women all the time. You want him to hug,
you go hug and me hug you back. Yeah, you
know that's as simple as that. You want to kiss,
get you want?
Speaker 1 (28:21):
Yeah, kiss me.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
Just prop your mouf up there, just grab his face
and kiss it. That's it and you got it.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Well, I think there's a whole lot of amen's going
on right now with our listeners. Well, we thank you
so much for joining us today and sharing the testimony
of your life which is still going on, is still
going on. I think there's much to be done with
that breakthrough. If you ever wrote a book from hurt
to help, I think would be a good title because
(28:47):
you help a lot of people.
Speaker 2 (28:49):
Yes, I truly talk to a lot of people about it.
You'd be surprised because I don't Knoway wasn't about it.
Look like how they dressed up, the color they are,
how much money they got. They got some stuff going on,
and they have to be they're careful of who they
trust their heart with. Even our wife, y'all careful who
you trust, what you really think to her? Oh yeah,
(29:09):
because you don't know if you can trust what's there
with her. You don't want her to go tell her
mom and her differend.
Speaker 1 (29:15):
There's nothing worse than weaponized information.
Speaker 2 (29:18):
Y'all carry your stuff close to your chest.
Speaker 1 (29:20):
We do.
Speaker 2 (29:21):
You know when you're careful about who you share your
in the most thoughts with.
Speaker 1 (29:24):
That's true. Well, to wrap up our show today, and
I'm so thankful again for you joining with us today
because you being here is like Joseph being here, who's
still with us, he's just not in studio today being
with us as well. We're so thankful for you both
both myself personally in the community at larger Your church
has done so much over the millennia, as it were
(29:46):
the years over on the East Side. Now, one last question,
and this one's gonna have to be fairly short. I
do apologize. What do you think your legacy is both
of you and what would you like for it to be?
Speaker 2 (30:00):
That I cared enough to share me with people, anybody.
You know what I'm saying, Yes, to be a help
to humanity. That that's my deg I say yes, you
call me. I'm there. If you need to show that
you got one, you need to ear you got mine.
(30:21):
I wanted those things, I got it down. But now
I'm willing to share it, and you're giving and I'm
giving it.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
That's amazing, amazing, amazing, good story. I have a blessed
that I bless you.
Speaker 2 (30:33):
Thank you for the thank.
Speaker 1 (30:46):
Thank you for listening to the Voices of a Legacy.
This is your friend, Astor kral Mitchell, the third, your
host of this program. We want you to go to
w g T dot org slash legacy, like share, subscribe
and hear all of our past podcast and our future podcast.
Be a friend and join with us in the voices
(31:09):
of legacy, where you're writing your own legacy every day
that you live. Have a blessing.
Speaker 2 (31:50):
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