October 2, 2025 • 27 mins
On this episode of Voices of Legacy, Pastor Carl Mitchell sits down with Mayor Richard Bingham, the dedicated leader of Whitehouse, Ohio. Mayor Bingham shares his vision for community growth, small-town values, and the importance of servant leadership in today’s world. From strengthening local families and businesses to preparing for future generations, this conversation highlights how true legacy is built through integrity, accountability, and a heart for the people.
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Speaker 1 (00:24):
Today on the voices of Legacy. I have the honor
of sitting down with a man who has dedicated his
life to public service, leadership, and community. From serving our
nation in the US Air Force, a distinguished thirty year
career in law enforcement, among other things that we're going
to talk about today, I have the distinct honor of
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having none other than mister Richard. How do you say
that last name?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Bingham?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Bingham today the mayor of White House, Ohio. Mister Bingham,
Is it Richard or Richard? Is fine? Do you have
a nickname?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
My wife calls me rich that's fine as well.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh, that's pretty cool. I like rich Tell us more
about yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Like you said, I've been in public service since I
joined the United States Air Force back on August twenty sixth,
nineteen eighty six, as an Air Force Police officer. I
was stationed at Griffith's Air Force Base, Rome, New York,
part of the four sixteenth Security Police Squad and four
sixteen Combat Support Group through their Strategic Air Command. After
leaving the military, which I was honorably discharged, did a
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couple of things, then was hired as an investigative agent
by the hul Civil Rights Commission. Was promoted about three
years later to Investigative Agent Supervisor. While I was there,
I went through the police Academy. Subsequently work part time
at the Providence Township Police Department as well as the
City of Wacon. Decided I liked the law enforcement career field,
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so I decided to go into it full time with
the City of Bacon. I was there for approximately fourteen years,
worked my way up the ladder there as a patrol
to detective, detective, sergeant Lieutenant. I left there to become
the chief of police in the village of Pemberville, Ohio,
which is over by Bowling Green.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Then friend Ben has a place there there you go.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
My wife's family is actually from there, so that was
kind of the draw for me over there. And then
I went to work for the State of Ohio as
the chief of police at the Northwest Ohio Psychiatric Hospital,
which is.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Right down the street here.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So I was there and then had an opportunity to
finish out my career as the chief of police in
Waterwollo Township, where I grew up. I'm a waterfowl guy,
Anthony Wayne graduated class of eighty five, so I got
a chance to go back there, retired in twenty twenty,
stayed retired for about ninety days, got bored, went to
work as lieutenants at the Mercy Health Police Department down
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here in Toledo, and left there when I was offer
a position as the chief of police in the village Fayette, Ohio,
which is in Fulton County. I've been in politics now
for about eight years. I served on white House Village
Council for six years. Decided to run for mayor years
ago and was elected mayor. So I'm in my first
term right now.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Awesome. Awesome. So you're new to the political field.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Eight years, new to the mayor field, yeah, so it'd
be about nineteen twenty.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Months now, so awesome awesome. So how has your experience
in law enforcement affected or maybe led you to politics
or public service.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, as you said when we started, it's all I
know really is public service. Since I've been nineteen years
old when my wife and I moved back from Wacion
because at the time, back in the nineties, you had
to live where you policed. That's before the law changed.
So when we moved back to the Anthony Wayne area,
white House, specifically when I was a chief of police,
in Waterbo Township. I decided, Hey, I wanted to get
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involved in the next phase of because I knew I
only had a few years to go, so I wanted
to get involved and it's community service. And I decided
to run for a village council and actually beat an incumbent,
which rarely.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Happens, especially in those small towns.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yes, exactly, and was able to do that, and then
was re elected four years later, and then was elected.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Do you have any history in white House before then?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I lived in the Antheayne area for forty years, so
we had lived in a water Boll Yes, so in
the immediate area. Yes, I've been there most of my life.
My parents, well, we grew up in Watervoll. I was
there since sixty seve nineteen sixty seven. So Anthonayne area
has been placed my wife and I call home. So
we kind of always wanted to move back there, and
we had the opportunity, and that's why we moved back
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to white House. It was also a lot closer to
Waterball Township the police station, so that's why we decided
to move back there.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Actually, so you physically moved to water Well, not Waterville,
but white House where you're serving now, yes, So how's
that been going for you?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Politics is interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I will say that it's different, a little different.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
H And what I mean by.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Different is it used to be pretty you know, people
put signs out and did things like that, and now
with social media, it's kind of changed the whole political
realm of everything where people can attack you and you
have very little recourse.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I guess to do that.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
A lot of things in the local area in Anthewyne area,
our school board, our city of water well, their council
race also some things that happen. It's not usual where
people get attacked for running for political office out where
I'm from. And this last election was pretty pretty bitter.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And the brutal.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, it's kind of brutal.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You better have some thick skin because people are gonna
say things about you number one that aren't true. But
that's politics. I mean, that's that's what we have now.
And that's one of the bad things I see about
politics is is people say things that they don't know
the facts about. And I just wish people would get,
you know, the facts before before they make statements.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You kind of have to have fi skin.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You have to have very thick skin, especially in law
enforce I think that certainly helped me. Certainly helped me,
and in regards to my political career, but I'm used
to village government. I've worked for a township, a village,
the state, so I'm familiar with the process and the
political part of it as well. Let's not sit here
and think there's not politics.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Of course, we did.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Law enforcement, absolutely yeah, and and de escalation.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yes, thing that you're talking c I t is very important, Yes,
absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, Well that's that's awesome and interesting. So you think,
I mean, you're relatively young guy, might have a long career.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And I'm fifty eight years old.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We actually what's very interesting you say that is we
have a charter form of government in the White House,
and we are putting on two amendments to our charter
for our voters this November, because all charter amendment changes
have to go through the voters, and two are those
for term limits for our council and for our mayor.
So I wonder what inspired that a couple of our
council people decided that they had what they had seen
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over the years as people get in and never get out,
and that change is a good thing, and I believe
in that philosophy as well.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
New ideas.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's it spurns new ideas, new opportunities for growth and
sometimes and I do believe this change is good. So
we'll have to see what the voters in white House,
whether or not they those charter on them.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
It changes are not well as the mayor, it's interesting
that you bring up change because white House, and I'll
have to admit I'm kind of familiar with it. I
have the responsibility of a radio tower in white House, Okay,
all right, And I enjoyed visiting and getting to know people,
and I was like, you know what, I need to
know everybody. It's a nice community, but I remember from
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my childhood it's way different. There's a lot of stuff,
even though it's a small community that's been built that
I don't remember seeing there before. Has the growth I
guess surrounding the Toledo area in Lucas County affected white
House greatly?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It absolutely has.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
White House is one of the few towns here, especially
in Lucas County in northwest. So how it nearly doubled
in size in twelve years looks like it and with
urban sprawl that's coming. We certainly with water Bowl their expansion,
how big they've gotten, we will be a city coming
up here in two thousand and thirty, will be over
five thousand residents. We actually missed it by ten this
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last time four thousand, nine ninety. So it will certainly
change not only a charter, but our responsibilities, our employees
will be able to unionize and various things. But things
has certainly changed out in southwestern Lucas County. We were
very good to the Lucas County Library, as you know.
I'm sure that they're building their new twenty million dollars
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library out in white House. I petitioned for that, fought
for that for several months to get that, and it's
actually going to be one of the first in the
nation that has not only a library but a conservation
center because we matched up with the Lucas County metro Parks.
So right now it's where it's going to be in
the Blue Creek Metro Park in white House is where
it's planned to be built. Their starting construction probably toward
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the end of next year. We're having several things they're
doing now, of course, soil studies and other things, but
one of the things that's delaying it a little longer
than what we wanted was we wanted our citizen to
have a say and what it looked like. That's good,
and so that pushed it back probably about six months
start date. And Library Board of course and the Metroparks
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are certainly on board with that that they're one of
the surrounded communities to have saying what the building look like.
So we wanted to be a showpiece for our community.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So I heard you're talking about soil studies and such.
So you're building towards growth or are you anticipating more growth?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
One of the issues we are certainly going to have growth.
The issues we're having in white House is our ditches.
The problem with the ditches, if you're not familiar with that,
overflowing flooding. Because of all the backlogs that are happening,
that is kind of stemied our growth somewhat because people
don't want to build houses, our businesses and a floodplain.
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So it's a six year program that the county is
doing to try to clean out the ditches. Unfortunately, white
House is probably one of the worst locations in Lucas
County for the blockages because of the Emerald ash Boar trees
are a lot of the cause of that. Myself and
Lisa Sebecky have fought through the state legislature try to
help get money for that. We're trying to get grants
everything else. That's about a nineteen million dollar project over
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six years to do it. But for white House, our
growth is still going to continue, but not probably at
the pace it would if we didn't have these other issues.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Growth sometimes can be painful, and I think falling timbers
may be the best example. It's been in the news recently. Yes,
and my wife and I we went out there and
I was shocked and amazed. I was like, oh my god,
what happened. Yeah, it's sad. It's like the investment was made,
but there didn't seem to be any residential planning surrounding
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that development. As the downturn for the fallen Timbers affected
your township as well.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Well, it hasn't really affected the village of white House.
I know that the school gets a lot of money
because the Antheon Waite School System. It really hasn't effect that.
We're still far enough away from it. But the growth
in mont clovis tremendousness well, but White House is actually
the fastest growing community in northwest Ohio and we want
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to try to keep it that way. We have new
developments that are trying to come in right now, actually
probably seventy seventy five housing units. One of the things
that we're having an issue with is one of the
first things that I did as mayor, as we had
a survey go out to our citizens. We had one
prior to that when I was on console, and some
of the things that our citizens said and the survey
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is that they don't want any big box stores, they
don't want fast food, and they don't want manufacturing. Well,
the problem is those are the three things that bring
your tax revenue in.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But we need to listen.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
They want it to be a bedroom community. So we
have to figure out a way to raise revenue without
bringing those type of businesses in because I mean, our.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Citizens just don't want to.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So we're trying to do the right things to get
people to town, but the problem is getting One of
the things I always say is the only thing government
has to prove or what they have to do, is
to find out how to raise revenue without her and
our most vulnerable population. That's what we have to do,
and it's it's difficult right now, It's eluded everybody, and
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we are going to be a financial issue here a
few years down the road in white House because of
every reason. Everybody else is in the ten percent inflation.
When we become a city and people can bargain collect
a bargain, that usually costs a lot more. We have
to take care of our state routes. Now the state
no longer has to do that. So there's things that
are coming up. But one of the things that we've
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done in white House, and we've been very good at,
is getting grants. We just got a one point eight
million dollar grant for our new water tower that we
had to have so it save taxpayers that kind of money.
We just recently found out the state awarded us again
a new walking connected trails that will go from our
downtown all the way out Weakley Road to our high school.
So you'll basically be able to walk the entire village
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each direction to the school.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And that's one of the things that our.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Citizens said in the survey, and they also said they
wanted was connectivity, and we brought that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
The mayor of Rossford, Neil Kennon.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, we had, and I never really understood, not understood,
comprehended the size and scope and kind of the smallness
of Rochford for this liver that it is. But the
businesses that were there, could you kind of explain kind
of the size of white House and its proximity to
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Toledo and the Lucas County area.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
White Houses approximately five fifty one hundred people. Now it's
approximately i'm gonna say, seventeen to twenty miles from Toledo.
One of the things that is also stymying our growth
is our State Route sixty four. You've been out there.
The problem is the narrowness of it. A lot of crashes,
a lot of things. There are businesses over the years
that have come to white House that wanted to come there,
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the bigger businesses, but they can't because of the narrowness
of the road. Now US twenty four certainly helped. We
would like to petition the state at some point to
try to widen that road, which would open up a
lot of avenues for us. Our big canning company there,
Ardo left made a decision of right as I was
coming in to be mayor. It was a big employer
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at one time five six hundred people. At the end
it was less than one hundred. But they made cans.
It was a canning company, pop cans, beer cans.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
That type.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So they closed up shop. We were concerned that we
weren't going to be able to get anybody in there.
Actually we were very successful in bringing a toy company
by the name of fly Bar there. So they did
not make the toys, but they needed a Midwest hub
or warehouse, and they selected White House and purchased that
property and they are gearing up now to make it,
like I said, their Northwest tuble. There'll be a lot
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of transportation in and out of there and a lot
of toys moving.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Awesome, awesome, awesome. So you don't have, I guess, albatross
of an empty space and whatnot because Toledo, in the
city of to we have quite a few empty factories,
empty big box stores, and it's kind of sad. My
wife and I we were in Finley, Ohio, coming back
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from a church state conference, and I was so impressed
at the vision the mayor that I've spoken to them
previously hopefully to get here. But you had a vision
of logistics for the township and if you've ever been
to Finland, most recently within the last decade or so,
that's all of Findlay. It's pure logistics. There's thousands of
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trucks going in and out, in and out, and it's
reflected a good tax space there for not only employment,
but from the manufacturers and distributors that are there. Do
you have a vision maybe similar to that for your
area because of its proximity. We do have a vision
actually hopefully without roundabouts by the way, but I.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Know roundabouts are part of it. Actually you say that,
but one of the I will tell you this. We've
had several businesses approach us that want to come to
White House. The problem is we have no open space.
I mean what I mean by that is we have
no businesses they can rent, no businesses they could buy
because almost all.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Of them are full.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh wow, And very few business people now want to
buy land because it's extremely expensive in southwestern Lucas County.
Start a business, build a business, okay, and risk whether
it succeeds or not. Based on all that financial burden.
They would rather come into something that's already there and
if it works out, then they could build later. That's
the problem. We're having with our growth business wise, and
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that's not a bad thing because all of our businesses
are really taken. So we are trying to get people
to come that fit the community. Like I said that
the citizens overwhelming they voted they wanted to be a
bedroom community and sometimes that cost which is unfortunate. But
my plan, and it's been previous council's plan, is we
have corridors in place where we would like to have
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not only residential but business and the same. I don't
know if you've ever been to the City of Dublin, Ohio. No,
it is a beautiful, well laid out plan that they
have down there. We've basically copied some of their plan
for our sixty four cords, or we have some of
it now. Just as you come into town across from
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the Flybar building, the big manufacturing or excuse me, a
big plant there where it is residential and what I'll
give you an example, like there's businesses on the first
floor and apartments and condos second and third one. It's
that type of development and there's a certain facade and
exterior facade you have to have, which we've basically our
council has approved. So businesses that come in there. We
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have a brand new business that's actually going to be
opening up. They're getting ready to build it right now.
All the materials are there on our sixty four corridor.
So new businesses that are going to be there have
to basically conform to the plan and conform to what
the businesses will look like. But we like to bring retail,
certainly small retail shops.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
They help you.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
But what kind of shocks me is people don't want
fast food places in white House.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
They have a couple in Waterville, but well, how close
do you have your fast food three miles.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's right in water Well, it's just down Dutch Road.
We have a McDonald's and they just build a brand
new taco bell there. We do have a plan for growth,
it's just what our plan the vision is, Council. I
don't think maybe on the same wavelength as our citizens
want to be Well, could that be to.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
What you were speaking of earlier in return limits I've
experienced in full disclosure, I've said on a citizens review boards.
As a matter of fact, I do here in Lucas County.
The detachment a lot of times has a lot to
do with people being in the same spot forever and ever, Amen,
and they've become a detached from their current citizens. It's
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not the same town anymore, and they're not building for growth.
But growth is going to come anyhow, So it seems
like we would make that less painless by, you know,
kind of getting you blood in well.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And sometimes there's growing pains with that.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I'm the first mayor, i think in the history of
White House that I'm aware of, where we had basically
four brand new council people, zero experience, one with about
a year and a half, so the overwhelming majority had
less than two years of experience on council when I
got in there. So there's been some growing pains from
me being a new mayor and them being new on council.
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I think we've worked our way through it. We worked
together as a group and we have differences of opinion,
which I always said is a good thing, but term
limits is probably a good thing. Yeah, it's probably a
good thing. People come in with new ideas, fresh ideas.
I mean, we have people that have lived in the
town two or three years that are on our council.
We have people that live there forty years on our council.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Would the term limits affect your office.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yes, it would be mayor be three terms. Awesome, Yeah,
and same way with our council would be three terms.
Then you would have to go off for four years.
But in my opinion, if you're in politics, twelve years
is certainly long enough. If you can even stay that
long the way things are now, in the atmosphere that
we have, in the climate that we have, it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, we've got a mayor that that extended his term. Yes,
we're not going to talk about that. Wow, I think
we've covered pretty much everything. But but I've got to
asks what is it that you like to do in
your private life that you can share with us? Do
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you have any hobbies or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Actually, my wife and I travel the world. So we
like to travel to Europe. We do the Christmas markets
every year through Germany and France, Austria, Switzerland. We're getting
ready to go here shortly on a two week vacation
to Eastern Europe, so we're looking forward to that. We travel,
like to travel. We have grand kids. I have three
grand kids. We'd like to go to their sporting events
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things like that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
But we travel. We travel while we.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Can grandkids near enough to oh yeah, spoiled.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yep, yep, Oh yeah, absolutely, they live pretty close by.
I get to go to their sporting events and everything else.
I have one boy and two girls, so it takes
a lot of time as well. But that's what I
usually do in my off time. I work a lot
I have, as you know, I'm the mayor as well
as chief of police in the village of Fayette, and
I also sit on some other boards which take up
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my time. So I'm frequently every night doing something.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So that's probably what keeps you looking young.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I don't know if I look that young. I feel
old with being on the go all the time, which
is a good thing though, but it is, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah. We're made to move and having a life of
service it helps to stay active. Yes, stay aware of
what's going. That's the only way you're going to stay
aware of what's going to be effective in the positions
that you've been elected to. That's that's great. Did you
have any suggestions to young people that may be aspiring
to be in law enforcement or in the military, or
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even in elective office.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I will tell you this, and my wife and I
have talked about this I hated the military when I
was in it. I'm not gonna serve force. I'm not
gonna lie to you. But you know what, when after
I got out of it and look back, it was
the best decision I ever made.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
How many years did you say for OK, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
The best decision that I ever made. I think it
set me on the right path. So did my parents,
of course, my upbringing, but the military set me in
the right direction. This made me decide what I wanted
to do and respect others, the teachers, respect as you know,
and authority and how to deal with that discipline yea,
and discipline. And I think that's was very helpful to me.
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I would absolutely recommend to anybody that that's considering it.
They might want to think about joining the military, whatever
branch it might be. Politics maybe not so much. I
have a nephew that's in poly science right now, political
science at Miami University.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And he and I had a talk.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's it's not betting roses that it is on TV
that you better be able, like you said earlier, to
have thick skin. It's the attack mode. I remember our
government growing up. I'm a Reagan Republican, is that we
come together, two different political parties come together, we debate
an issue respectfully, and then the majority rules majority went
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And I think we need to get back to that.
It's not us against them. I think I think the
common goals do what's.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Best for our citizens.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And I think that's where we need to get We've
lost our way and i'd like to see, I'd.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Like to see just to get back there.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It almost seems as though we went from, as you
use the analogy of kind of like football teams, almost
to a place of w we but with real consequences.
It's a characterture of what should be. We should be
able to disagree without being disagreeable, disrespectful, or even what
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we experienced just a week ago as a nation.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Absolutely that should never happen.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And I think it's because we've fallen away from where
we used to be as a nation, and we can
get back there. It just when we're in and i'n
get off my soapbox real quick, But when we've fallen
in a place of extreme circumstances and situations, we need
some extreme measures to get us back to a place
where we can have civil discord without violence and without
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me hating you, you hating me. That's a better place
to be and more effective.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I think the US against them I think needs to
go away. I think we'd be a lot better off
if that was the case, because, as everybody always says,
there's great ideas all over Washington, there is, and there's
great ideas all over White House. It's getting those ideas
together and being able to agree on them and put
them in place and move forward as one especially as
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one community.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And I like to think that White House we've.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Been able to do that, and we've been successful at
it and bringing businesses and things to White House. And
I think if we got back on that path, maybe
nationally we would be okay. But violence is never acceptable.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Violence except no or even the hate in vitriol that
leads to it. It shouldn't be acceptable either. People should
be held accountable. You do have the freedom of speech,
but you don't have the freedom from accountability. None of
us do. What do you think your legacy is final
question and what would you like for it to be.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I like to think my legacy would be of service.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I'd like my grandkids to see that it's good to serve,
even if it takes up a lot of your time
because the end result is good if you're trying to
make a good in your community. And I think that
people have to serve to get it there, to get
it to that point. And that's why I've done what
I've done over the years, and serving on the boards
and everything else, and running for politics, and and I
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like my legacy to be that we can understand one another,
disagree and be respectful about it, and that hopefully we
all can get along and move forward toward a common goal,
which is what's best for your community.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Wow. And a Rodney King quote the boot can't we
just yes? I can't do it like him. Thank you
so much for being with us today.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Rich Yes, sir, I want to get it right.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
The mayor of white House, Ohio. We appreciate you very much.
Did you have any parting words?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I just want to thank you guys for give me
an opportune to come down here and.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Speak about the beautiful village of White House and talk
about community and and and how to make things better.
I think it's important that we have things like this,
uh and shows like this that try to bring us
together rather than apart.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I think it is very.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
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W g t E voices around us
Today on the voices of Legacy. I have the honor
of sitting down with a man who has dedicated his
life to public service, leadership, and community. From serving our
nation in the US Air Force, a distinguished thirty year
career in law enforcement, among other things that we're going
to talk about today, I have the distinct honor of
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having none other than mister Richard. How do you say
that last name?
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Bingham?
Speaker 1 (00:47):
Bingham today the mayor of White House, Ohio. Mister Bingham,
Is it Richard or Richard? Is fine? Do you have
a nickname?
Speaker 2 (00:59):
My wife calls me rich that's fine as well.
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Oh, that's pretty cool. I like rich Tell us more
about yourself.
Speaker 3 (01:06):
Like you said, I've been in public service since I
joined the United States Air Force back on August twenty sixth,
nineteen eighty six, as an Air Force Police officer. I
was stationed at Griffith's Air Force Base, Rome, New York,
part of the four sixteenth Security Police Squad and four
sixteen Combat Support Group through their Strategic Air Command. After
leaving the military, which I was honorably discharged, did a
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couple of things, then was hired as an investigative agent
by the hul Civil Rights Commission. Was promoted about three
years later to Investigative Agent Supervisor. While I was there,
I went through the police Academy. Subsequently work part time
at the Providence Township Police Department as well as the
City of Wacon. Decided I liked the law enforcement career field,
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so I decided to go into it full time with
the City of Bacon. I was there for approximately fourteen years,
worked my way up the ladder there as a patrol
to detective, detective, sergeant Lieutenant. I left there to become
the chief of police in the village of Pemberville, Ohio,
which is over by Bowling Green.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Then friend Ben has a place there there you go.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
My wife's family is actually from there, so that was
kind of the draw for me over there. And then
I went to work for the State of Ohio as
the chief of police at the Northwest Ohio Psychiatric Hospital,
which is.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Right down the street here.
Speaker 3 (02:21):
So I was there and then had an opportunity to
finish out my career as the chief of police in
Waterwollo Township, where I grew up. I'm a waterfowl guy,
Anthony Wayne graduated class of eighty five, so I got
a chance to go back there, retired in twenty twenty,
stayed retired for about ninety days, got bored, went to
work as lieutenants at the Mercy Health Police Department down
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here in Toledo, and left there when I was offer
a position as the chief of police in the village Fayette, Ohio,
which is in Fulton County. I've been in politics now
for about eight years. I served on white House Village
Council for six years. Decided to run for mayor years
ago and was elected mayor. So I'm in my first
term right now.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Awesome. Awesome. So you're new to the political field.
Speaker 3 (03:07):
Eight years, new to the mayor field, yeah, so it'd
be about nineteen twenty.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Months now, so awesome awesome. So how has your experience
in law enforcement affected or maybe led you to politics
or public service.
Speaker 3 (03:20):
Well, as you said when we started, it's all I
know really is public service. Since I've been nineteen years
old when my wife and I moved back from Wacion
because at the time, back in the nineties, you had
to live where you policed. That's before the law changed.
So when we moved back to the Anthony Wayne area,
white House, specifically when I was a chief of police,
in Waterbo Township. I decided, Hey, I wanted to get
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involved in the next phase of because I knew I
only had a few years to go, so I wanted
to get involved and it's community service. And I decided
to run for a village council and actually beat an incumbent,
which rarely.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
Happens, especially in those small towns.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Yes, exactly, and was able to do that, and then
was re elected four years later, and then was elected.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Do you have any history in white House before then?
Speaker 3 (04:03):
I lived in the Antheayne area for forty years, so
we had lived in a water Boll Yes, so in
the immediate area. Yes, I've been there most of my life.
My parents, well, we grew up in Watervoll. I was
there since sixty seve nineteen sixty seven. So Anthonayne area
has been placed my wife and I call home. So
we kind of always wanted to move back there, and
we had the opportunity, and that's why we moved back
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to white House. It was also a lot closer to
Waterball Township the police station, so that's why we decided
to move back there.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Actually, so you physically moved to water Well, not Waterville,
but white House where you're serving now, yes, So how's
that been going for you?
Speaker 2 (04:38):
Politics is interesting.
Speaker 3 (04:40):
I will say that it's different, a little different.
Speaker 2 (04:43):
H And what I mean by.
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Different is it used to be pretty you know, people
put signs out and did things like that, and now
with social media, it's kind of changed the whole political
realm of everything where people can attack you and you
have very little recourse.
Speaker 2 (04:57):
I guess to do that.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
A lot of things in the local area in Anthewyne area,
our school board, our city of water well, their council
race also some things that happen. It's not usual where
people get attacked for running for political office out where
I'm from. And this last election was pretty pretty bitter.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
And the brutal.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, it's kind of brutal.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
You better have some thick skin because people are gonna
say things about you number one that aren't true. But
that's politics. I mean, that's that's what we have now.
And that's one of the bad things I see about
politics is is people say things that they don't know
the facts about. And I just wish people would get,
you know, the facts before before they make statements.
Speaker 1 (05:36):
You kind of have to have fi skin.
Speaker 3 (05:38):
You have to have very thick skin, especially in law
enforce I think that certainly helped me. Certainly helped me,
and in regards to my political career, but I'm used
to village government. I've worked for a township, a village,
the state, so I'm familiar with the process and the
political part of it as well. Let's not sit here
and think there's not politics.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Of course, we did.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
Law enforcement, absolutely yeah, and and de escalation.
Speaker 2 (06:04):
Yes, thing that you're talking c I t is very important, Yes,
absolutely absolutely.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yeah, Well that's that's awesome and interesting. So you think,
I mean, you're relatively young guy, might have a long career.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
And I'm fifty eight years old.
Speaker 3 (06:20):
We actually what's very interesting you say that is we
have a charter form of government in the White House,
and we are putting on two amendments to our charter
for our voters this November, because all charter amendment changes
have to go through the voters, and two are those
for term limits for our council and for our mayor.
So I wonder what inspired that a couple of our
council people decided that they had what they had seen
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over the years as people get in and never get out,
and that change is a good thing, and I believe
in that philosophy as well.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
New ideas.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
It's it spurns new ideas, new opportunities for growth and
sometimes and I do believe this change is good. So
we'll have to see what the voters in white House,
whether or not they those charter on them.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
It changes are not well as the mayor, it's interesting
that you bring up change because white House, and I'll
have to admit I'm kind of familiar with it. I
have the responsibility of a radio tower in white House, Okay,
all right, And I enjoyed visiting and getting to know people,
and I was like, you know what, I need to
know everybody. It's a nice community, but I remember from
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my childhood it's way different. There's a lot of stuff,
even though it's a small community that's been built that
I don't remember seeing there before. Has the growth I
guess surrounding the Toledo area in Lucas County affected white
House greatly?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
It absolutely has.
Speaker 3 (07:38):
White House is one of the few towns here, especially
in Lucas County in northwest. So how it nearly doubled
in size in twelve years looks like it and with
urban sprawl that's coming. We certainly with water Bowl their expansion,
how big they've gotten, we will be a city coming
up here in two thousand and thirty, will be over
five thousand residents. We actually missed it by ten this
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last time four thousand, nine ninety. So it will certainly
change not only a charter, but our responsibilities, our employees
will be able to unionize and various things. But things
has certainly changed out in southwestern Lucas County. We were
very good to the Lucas County Library, as you know.
I'm sure that they're building their new twenty million dollars
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library out in white House. I petitioned for that, fought
for that for several months to get that, and it's
actually going to be one of the first in the
nation that has not only a library but a conservation
center because we matched up with the Lucas County metro Parks.
So right now it's where it's going to be in
the Blue Creek Metro Park in white House is where
it's planned to be built. Their starting construction probably toward
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the end of next year. We're having several things they're
doing now, of course, soil studies and other things, but
one of the things that's delaying it a little longer
than what we wanted was we wanted our citizen to
have a say and what it looked like. That's good,
and so that pushed it back probably about six months
start date. And Library Board of course and the Metroparks
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are certainly on board with that that they're one of
the surrounded communities to have saying what the building look like.
So we wanted to be a showpiece for our community.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
So I heard you're talking about soil studies and such.
So you're building towards growth or are you anticipating more growth?
Speaker 3 (09:15):
One of the issues we are certainly going to have growth.
The issues we're having in white House is our ditches.
The problem with the ditches, if you're not familiar with that,
overflowing flooding. Because of all the backlogs that are happening,
that is kind of stemied our growth somewhat because people
don't want to build houses, our businesses and a floodplain.
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So it's a six year program that the county is
doing to try to clean out the ditches. Unfortunately, white
House is probably one of the worst locations in Lucas
County for the blockages because of the Emerald ash Boar trees
are a lot of the cause of that. Myself and
Lisa Sebecky have fought through the state legislature try to
help get money for that. We're trying to get grants
everything else. That's about a nineteen million dollar project over
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six years to do it. But for white House, our
growth is still going to continue, but not probably at
the pace it would if we didn't have these other issues.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Growth sometimes can be painful, and I think falling timbers
may be the best example. It's been in the news recently. Yes,
and my wife and I we went out there and
I was shocked and amazed. I was like, oh my god,
what happened. Yeah, it's sad. It's like the investment was made,
but there didn't seem to be any residential planning surrounding
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that development. As the downturn for the fallen Timbers affected
your township as well.
Speaker 3 (10:34):
Well, it hasn't really affected the village of white House.
I know that the school gets a lot of money
because the Antheon Waite School System. It really hasn't effect that.
We're still far enough away from it. But the growth
in mont clovis tremendousness well, but White House is actually
the fastest growing community in northwest Ohio and we want
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to try to keep it that way. We have new
developments that are trying to come in right now, actually
probably seventy seventy five housing units. One of the things
that we're having an issue with is one of the
first things that I did as mayor, as we had
a survey go out to our citizens. We had one
prior to that when I was on console, and some
of the things that our citizens said and the survey
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is that they don't want any big box stores, they
don't want fast food, and they don't want manufacturing. Well,
the problem is those are the three things that bring
your tax revenue in.
Speaker 2 (11:24):
But we need to listen.
Speaker 3 (11:25):
They want it to be a bedroom community. So we
have to figure out a way to raise revenue without
bringing those type of businesses in because I mean, our.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
Citizens just don't want to.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
So we're trying to do the right things to get
people to town, but the problem is getting One of
the things I always say is the only thing government
has to prove or what they have to do, is
to find out how to raise revenue without her and
our most vulnerable population. That's what we have to do,
and it's it's difficult right now, It's eluded everybody, and
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we are going to be a financial issue here a
few years down the road in white House because of
every reason. Everybody else is in the ten percent inflation.
When we become a city and people can bargain collect
a bargain, that usually costs a lot more. We have
to take care of our state routes. Now the state
no longer has to do that. So there's things that
are coming up. But one of the things that we've
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done in white House, and we've been very good at,
is getting grants. We just got a one point eight
million dollar grant for our new water tower that we
had to have so it save taxpayers that kind of money.
We just recently found out the state awarded us again
a new walking connected trails that will go from our
downtown all the way out Weakley Road to our high school.
So you'll basically be able to walk the entire village
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each direction to the school.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
And that's one of the things that our.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
Citizens said in the survey, and they also said they
wanted was connectivity, and we brought that.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
The mayor of Rossford, Neil Kennon.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Yeah, we had, and I never really understood, not understood,
comprehended the size and scope and kind of the smallness
of Rochford for this liver that it is. But the
businesses that were there, could you kind of explain kind
of the size of white House and its proximity to
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Toledo and the Lucas County area.
Speaker 3 (13:16):
White Houses approximately five fifty one hundred people. Now it's
approximately i'm gonna say, seventeen to twenty miles from Toledo.
One of the things that is also stymying our growth
is our State Route sixty four. You've been out there.
The problem is the narrowness of it. A lot of crashes,
a lot of things. There are businesses over the years
that have come to white House that wanted to come there,
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the bigger businesses, but they can't because of the narrowness
of the road. Now US twenty four certainly helped. We
would like to petition the state at some point to
try to widen that road, which would open up a
lot of avenues for us. Our big canning company there,
Ardo left made a decision of right as I was
coming in to be mayor. It was a big employer
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at one time five six hundred people. At the end
it was less than one hundred. But they made cans.
It was a canning company, pop cans, beer cans.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
That type.
Speaker 3 (14:09):
So they closed up shop. We were concerned that we
weren't going to be able to get anybody in there.
Actually we were very successful in bringing a toy company
by the name of fly Bar there. So they did
not make the toys, but they needed a Midwest hub
or warehouse, and they selected White House and purchased that
property and they are gearing up now to make it,
like I said, their Northwest tuble. There'll be a lot
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of transportation in and out of there and a lot
of toys moving.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Awesome, awesome, awesome. So you don't have, I guess, albatross
of an empty space and whatnot because Toledo, in the
city of to we have quite a few empty factories,
empty big box stores, and it's kind of sad. My
wife and I we were in Finley, Ohio, coming back
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from a church state conference, and I was so impressed
at the vision the mayor that I've spoken to them
previously hopefully to get here. But you had a vision
of logistics for the township and if you've ever been
to Finland, most recently within the last decade or so,
that's all of Findlay. It's pure logistics. There's thousands of
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trucks going in and out, in and out, and it's
reflected a good tax space there for not only employment,
but from the manufacturers and distributors that are there. Do
you have a vision maybe similar to that for your
area because of its proximity. We do have a vision
actually hopefully without roundabouts by the way, but I.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Know roundabouts are part of it. Actually you say that,
but one of the I will tell you this. We've
had several businesses approach us that want to come to
White House. The problem is we have no open space.
I mean what I mean by that is we have
no businesses they can rent, no businesses they could buy
because almost all.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Of them are full.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Oh wow, And very few business people now want to
buy land because it's extremely expensive in southwestern Lucas County.
Start a business, build a business, okay, and risk whether
it succeeds or not. Based on all that financial burden.
They would rather come into something that's already there and
if it works out, then they could build later. That's
the problem. We're having with our growth business wise, and
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that's not a bad thing because all of our businesses
are really taken. So we are trying to get people
to come that fit the community. Like I said that
the citizens overwhelming they voted they wanted to be a
bedroom community and sometimes that cost which is unfortunate. But
my plan, and it's been previous council's plan, is we
have corridors in place where we would like to have
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not only residential but business and the same. I don't
know if you've ever been to the City of Dublin, Ohio. No,
it is a beautiful, well laid out plan that they
have down there. We've basically copied some of their plan
for our sixty four cords, or we have some of
it now. Just as you come into town across from
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the Flybar building, the big manufacturing or excuse me, a
big plant there where it is residential and what I'll
give you an example, like there's businesses on the first
floor and apartments and condos second and third one. It's
that type of development and there's a certain facade and
exterior facade you have to have, which we've basically our
council has approved. So businesses that come in there. We
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have a brand new business that's actually going to be
opening up. They're getting ready to build it right now.
All the materials are there on our sixty four corridor.
So new businesses that are going to be there have
to basically conform to the plan and conform to what
the businesses will look like. But we like to bring retail,
certainly small retail shops.
Speaker 2 (17:32):
They help you.
Speaker 3 (17:33):
But what kind of shocks me is people don't want
fast food places in white House.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
They have a couple in Waterville, but well, how close
do you have your fast food three miles.
Speaker 3 (17:42):
It's right in water Well, it's just down Dutch Road.
We have a McDonald's and they just build a brand
new taco bell there. We do have a plan for growth,
it's just what our plan the vision is, Council. I
don't think maybe on the same wavelength as our citizens
want to be Well, could that be to.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
What you were speaking of earlier in return limits I've
experienced in full disclosure, I've said on a citizens review boards.
As a matter of fact, I do here in Lucas County.
The detachment a lot of times has a lot to
do with people being in the same spot forever and ever, Amen,
and they've become a detached from their current citizens. It's
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not the same town anymore, and they're not building for growth.
But growth is going to come anyhow, So it seems
like we would make that less painless by, you know,
kind of getting you blood in well.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
And sometimes there's growing pains with that.
Speaker 3 (18:33):
I'm the first mayor, i think in the history of
White House that I'm aware of, where we had basically
four brand new council people, zero experience, one with about
a year and a half, so the overwhelming majority had
less than two years of experience on council when I
got in there. So there's been some growing pains from
me being a new mayor and them being new on council.
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I think we've worked our way through it. We worked
together as a group and we have differences of opinion,
which I always said is a good thing, but term
limits is probably a good thing. Yeah, it's probably a
good thing. People come in with new ideas, fresh ideas.
I mean, we have people that have lived in the
town two or three years that are on our council.
We have people that live there forty years on our council.
Speaker 1 (19:14):
Would the term limits affect your office.
Speaker 3 (19:17):
Yes, it would be mayor be three terms. Awesome, Yeah,
and same way with our council would be three terms.
Then you would have to go off for four years.
But in my opinion, if you're in politics, twelve years
is certainly long enough. If you can even stay that
long the way things are now, in the atmosphere that
we have, in the climate that we have, it's difficult.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
Well, we've got a mayor that that extended his term. Yes,
we're not going to talk about that. Wow, I think
we've covered pretty much everything. But but I've got to
asks what is it that you like to do in
your private life that you can share with us? Do
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you have any hobbies or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (19:56):
Actually, my wife and I travel the world. So we
like to travel to Europe. We do the Christmas markets
every year through Germany and France, Austria, Switzerland. We're getting
ready to go here shortly on a two week vacation
to Eastern Europe, so we're looking forward to that. We travel,
like to travel. We have grand kids. I have three
grand kids. We'd like to go to their sporting events
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things like that.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
But we travel. We travel while we.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Can grandkids near enough to oh yeah, spoiled.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Yep, yep, Oh yeah, absolutely, they live pretty close by.
I get to go to their sporting events and everything else.
I have one boy and two girls, so it takes
a lot of time as well. But that's what I
usually do in my off time. I work a lot
I have, as you know, I'm the mayor as well
as chief of police in the village of Fayette, and
I also sit on some other boards which take up
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my time. So I'm frequently every night doing something.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
So that's probably what keeps you looking young.
Speaker 2 (20:53):
I don't know if I look that young. I feel
old with being on the go all the time, which
is a good thing though, but it is, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
Yeah. We're made to move and having a life of
service it helps to stay active. Yes, stay aware of
what's going. That's the only way you're going to stay
aware of what's going to be effective in the positions
that you've been elected to. That's that's great. Did you
have any suggestions to young people that may be aspiring
to be in law enforcement or in the military, or
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even in elective office.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
I will tell you this, and my wife and I
have talked about this I hated the military when I
was in it. I'm not gonna serve force. I'm not
gonna lie to you. But you know what, when after
I got out of it and look back, it was
the best decision I ever made.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
How many years did you say for OK, Yeah, it's.
Speaker 3 (21:38):
The best decision that I ever made. I think it
set me on the right path. So did my parents,
of course, my upbringing, but the military set me in
the right direction. This made me decide what I wanted
to do and respect others, the teachers, respect as you know,
and authority and how to deal with that discipline yea,
and discipline. And I think that's was very helpful to me.
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I would absolutely recommend to anybody that that's considering it.
They might want to think about joining the military, whatever
branch it might be. Politics maybe not so much. I
have a nephew that's in poly science right now, political
science at Miami University.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
And he and I had a talk.
Speaker 3 (22:23):
It's it's not betting roses that it is on TV
that you better be able, like you said earlier, to
have thick skin. It's the attack mode. I remember our
government growing up. I'm a Reagan Republican, is that we
come together, two different political parties come together, we debate
an issue respectfully, and then the majority rules majority went
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And I think we need to get back to that.
It's not us against them. I think I think the
common goals do what's.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
Best for our citizens.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (22:51):
And I think that's where we need to get We've
lost our way and i'd like to see, I'd.
Speaker 2 (22:54):
Like to see just to get back there.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
It almost seems as though we went from, as you
use the analogy of kind of like football teams, almost
to a place of w we but with real consequences.
It's a characterture of what should be. We should be
able to disagree without being disagreeable, disrespectful, or even what
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we experienced just a week ago as a nation.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Absolutely that should never happen.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
And I think it's because we've fallen away from where
we used to be as a nation, and we can
get back there. It just when we're in and i'n
get off my soapbox real quick, But when we've fallen
in a place of extreme circumstances and situations, we need
some extreme measures to get us back to a place
where we can have civil discord without violence and without
(23:43):
me hating you, you hating me. That's a better place
to be and more effective.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
I think the US against them I think needs to
go away. I think we'd be a lot better off
if that was the case, because, as everybody always says,
there's great ideas all over Washington, there is, and there's
great ideas all over White House. It's getting those ideas
together and being able to agree on them and put
them in place and move forward as one especially as
(24:11):
one community.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
And I like to think that White House we've.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
Been able to do that, and we've been successful at
it and bringing businesses and things to White House. And
I think if we got back on that path, maybe
nationally we would be okay. But violence is never acceptable.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
Violence except no or even the hate in vitriol that
leads to it. It shouldn't be acceptable either. People should
be held accountable. You do have the freedom of speech,
but you don't have the freedom from accountability. None of
us do. What do you think your legacy is final
question and what would you like for it to be.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
I like to think my legacy would be of service.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I'd like my grandkids to see that it's good to serve,
even if it takes up a lot of your time
because the end result is good if you're trying to
make a good in your community. And I think that
people have to serve to get it there, to get
it to that point. And that's why I've done what
I've done over the years, and serving on the boards
and everything else, and running for politics, and and I
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like my legacy to be that we can understand one another,
disagree and be respectful about it, and that hopefully we
all can get along and move forward toward a common goal,
which is what's best for your community.
Speaker 1 (25:20):
Wow. And a Rodney King quote the boot can't we
just yes? I can't do it like him. Thank you
so much for being with us today.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Rich Yes, sir, I want to get it right.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
The mayor of white House, Ohio. We appreciate you very much.
Did you have any parting words?
Speaker 2 (25:42):
I just want to thank you guys for give me
an opportune to come down here and.
Speaker 3 (25:44):
Speak about the beautiful village of White House and talk
about community and and and how to make things better.
I think it's important that we have things like this,
uh and shows like this that try to bring us
together rather than apart.
Speaker 2 (25:55):
I think it is very.
Speaker 4 (25:56):
Important Thank you for listening to the Voices of Legacy.
This is your friend, Pastor Carl Mitchell, the third, your
host of this program. We want you to go to
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w GTE dot org slash legacy to like, share, subscribe,
and hear all of our past podcast and our future podcast.
Be a friend and join with us in the Voices
of Legacy, where you're writing your own legacy every day
that you live.
Speaker 1 (26:37):
Have a blessed y.
Speaker 3 (27:00):
M HM.
Speaker 1 (27:10):
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