Christian Talk That Rocks with Richie L Ep. 4/23/2025

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Start secrets five four three two words.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Now get in. I'm a discussion. Now lines are now,
here's your host, Richie L.

Speaker 3 (00:18):
Yeah, that's me. A couple of websites for you. Those
are kind of important these days. Everybody has a website.
Your grandma probably has when she just hasn't told you.
We got Christian talcdinrocks dot net. We got Christian tunctin
rocks dot com. Take your pick uh live winning email

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address so I can check that out. If you want
to shoot one, tell me and that's going to be
talk to Richiel at gmail dot com. T A L
K T O R I C H I E L
at gmail dot com. Schouve always get this broadcast in
podcast format. Here's a handful. iHeartRadio their podcast section. Yeah,
we're there. Last I check. They can't kick this out yet.

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one radio dot net, just to name a few. Also
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heard a weird clicking sound on what that was? I
was wow, like a chink and what was that? Maybe
it was a lovely missizilla doing something in the other room.
I have no idea anyway. Netnewsnetwork dot net, the newscasters
dot com. Let's see. Also, if you are listening live
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the icon that you want when you go to those sites.
If you don't see that icon, you see a different
icon with scanty clad dancing girls. It ain't the one.
Maybe a thunderous radio, but it's not the thunderest radio
I speak of. Okay, so that's where that's at. And
we don't have the ability right now to pay high
powered lawyers to tell those people to stop it. When
we do, we will, but until then, that's the way

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you got to kind of wade through it, all right.
And that's pretty much all that you need to know
before we get into things. Speaking of which you can
dive into a lot of stuff, a lot of things
to talk about. I've got, let's see, I've got nine.
I don't know if I have a chance to play
all nine, but I've got nine. It's most have ever
had for any show. Nine kind of nine sound bites
clips queued up over here on the other computer. I'm

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surrounded by three computers at the moment that are plugged
into the system. Of guys, you got more than that,
but that are plugged into the system, so we have
access to all sorts of things as they go on.
I'm going to get some international news out of the week.
Of course, the Pope passed away East late Eastern I
guess it was that would be American time, and there

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was some speculation that he was probably going to check
out pretty soon anyway, being sick for several weeks actually
really probably a couple of months or so, had been
pretty ill, and people were thinking, well, he's probably not
going to be around a whole lot longer. Now there's
this prophecy that's been floating around. Happened a few hundred
years back, that was given him. It's been kind of

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resurfacing in recent years that after this guy dies, there's
going to be one more pope. I think his name
is going to be Peter or Petro Romanus or Peter
Roman or something will be his name that he adopts,
and he'll be the last pope before Christ returns and
the Antichrist. That's a saying blah blah blah blah. I
don't know about that, and a little skeptical. Maybe who knows.

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That's not a prophecy found in your Bible, by the way,
that's just, you know, a quote unquote Catholic Church prophecy
that came from an old saint or whatever. We'll see
if that happens. I'm not you know again I'm king
of the skeptics. I don't know. But there's a whole
process that the Catholic Church goes to with the the
College of Cardinals, and then they have the enclay that's
gonna happen about it. I think a week and a

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half or something like that, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
So all that process will begin, they will elect or choose,
however you want to look at that, a new pope.
I'm not a Roman Catholic. I do have a handful
of friends and family members who are. I have some
family members who are. They call themselves recovering Catholics, and
they are now, you knowsembodies of Godters, independent Charismatics, whatever, Baptist,

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you name it. My late mother was a Catholic. She
was Roman Catholic for a while and then kind of
went more reform Catholic than just kind of well, I'm
just a Christian. We would as a kid, we would
go to Church of the Brethren, we'd go to Methodist churches,
we would go to Baptist churches, whatever. My late father
wasn't really much of a Christian until he got into
his twenties and then he went to and actually taught

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at a Methodist church. We also I was as a
child Christian baptized whatever when I was about three years old,
and I can remember this cred of the day I'd
said to me in a Catholic church. My dad were
landed and my mom wanted to do that in a
Catholic a little cathedral that was on the campus of
Saint Mary's University in San Antonio. We lived down the

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street at the time, and it horrified me. So when
I was an adult and went through a big backsliding
period and I was younger to Elton, then recommitted myself. Lord,
I wanted to well get baptized. I guess on on
my terms at that point in terms of the fact
that the first baptism kind of scared the daylights out
of me. And I was a kid and I didn't
know what I was doing. And uh so then I

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went to uh an Assemblies of God church. I wasn't
baptized into that church. I just wanted to be baptized
as an adult. I made that real clear to the
pastor and he was cool with that, and uh it
was kind of a weird baptism. A lot of people
that that witnessed it were freaked out. And basically what happened,
I'll make I'll make this short and sweet. I was
standing there and I felt arms gore around me, and

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I went back into the dunking pool. I was dunked
and then I and I felt this peace and I
and it and it didn't I lost I lost a
sense of the fact that I was in water and
it was just very peaceful. It was just very peaceful
down there in the dunking tank, and I accidentally started
to breathe in. I got so peaceful. Oop, you're in water, dummy, can't.

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I didn't drown, but almost didn't care if I did.
I felt so elated and happy. And then I felt
something kind of pushed me up. And then the pastor
reached down and he was a slender not exactly a
muscalar guy tall, but kind of kind of skinny, and
he pulls me up and it was like something pushed
me up from behind, and I thought, well, that's different.

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And there was kind of this slight, kind of misty
haze around the baptismal thing. It could be because the
jets were thinking and we're doing their thing, and there
it was the thing had been sitting there warming up
for about an hour, so maybe it was steam coming up.
I don't know. But people who witness it, their mouths
were open, and the pasture was going, thank you Lord,

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hall lujah, thank you Lord, holl a you, and some
people were just oh, praise the Lord. Then their mouths
were aghast, and I was just open and I'm looking.
I'm like, well, what you know? And I thought I
didn't think much of it. And afterwards people came up
to me that that's the most strangest baptism I've ever seen. Well, why,
well found out that the pastor didn't dunk me. They said,

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you slowly just went backwards in very slowly went backwards
into the into the dunking pool. I said, well, I
felt arms around me, you know, I felt a pair
of arms around me, and I thought it was the pastor.
They said no, what No, And there was this kind
of a mist really yeah, and everyone was just like flabbergasted,

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including the pastor. His eyes got really big. I'm like,
are you kidding me? No? So there you have that.
Let that one soak all right, no pun intended. So
I uh again, I'm not a practicing Roman chemical But
but I get that the pope has power on the
world stage. I get that. I accept that I reject

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much of not all, of Roman Catholicism. Here here's why
I'm going to lose some Protestants. I agree with some
of it. I'm not into the Mary analogy, though, I
think part it's and should perhaps maybe I don't want
to use the word honor Mary, but perhaps respect Mary
maybe a bit more than they do. I mean, she's
I think, an example of perfect submission to the Lord,

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next to Christ himself. I think, you know she I mean, look,
that's a pretty heavy duty thing. We know you're not.
You know, an angel comes along Mary ain't married and
said you're going to have this kid, okay, and then
of course all that comes with that. But you can imagine, oh,
Joseph was going to go ahead and marry this gal.
That's prego really and all that would go with that.

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But she, you know, went along with it. She's a
perfect example of trusting the Lord and submission. And I
think we should we should highly regard that as Protestants
or Protestant should not that I'm really a Protestant, I'm
I'm nothing in regards to these denominations and labels, I

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and may Jesus free. That's where I'm at, okay, But
I do appreciate the Catholic stance on the essentials of
the historical Orthodox Christian faith. I disagree with them in
some cases Vietmeme vehemently on some of the Roman Catholicism stuff.
But nevertheless I do have areas of strong agreement with Catholics,
and even Roman Catholics. I give Protestants a lot of

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hades as well on many of them, and some Catholics too,
embracing the Word of Faith movement and some of the
aber and theologies and even rank keresies that come along
with that, and some of the other crazy junct of
the Protestant churches are getting themselves into, and some of
this woke joke stuff and socialism and everything else that
is infested both Catholic and Protestant churches the entire body

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of Christ. And I have said that I think that
a great shaking is upon us, and that a house
cleaning is happening. With that, Scripture says that judgment begins
with the household of God. So if Christ is about
to return and judge the world, guess where the spankings
start first. So that's right in the chart. So anyway,
there's that. So of course said the coverage is all

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Pope all the time. I get that, and it'll be
that way for a while. Well it's a new shiny
object and that way they can kind of back off
some of the Trump stuff. Of course, they'll still be
hitting the Trump stuff, you know, because Trump is the
Antichrist in the minds of the mainstream comedia, and we
will still have some Trumps. But have you noticed I've
kind of started some of the immigration stuff. They're kind
of starting to back off on a little bit now
because they're starting to realize that might be a losing hand,

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so they're kind ering. So they really jumped on the
Pope things. Thank god the Pope died because now we can,
you know, got another shiny object here we can present
and kind of back away a little bit from some
of the narratives that some of the false New process
narratives and things of that nature that well even judges,
politicians and mainstream media are banding about. But now they're

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kind of starting to ease back. I'm noticed the last
couple of three days kind of easing back off that
because well, new stuff has come out about the MS
thirteen guy that's down in the jail in LA that
they don't want you to know about, and other things
that they don't want you to know about that we're
going to talk about it. See things that mainsteink media
don't like to talk about, well, I like to talk
about on their show because that tells me how better,
because that tells me there's something there at the main
stink media does not want to get into, right, So

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we're going to dive into to a lot of that
as well as the show continues. Also, just real quickly,
I'm hitting the international stuff first and then we're going
to look local. We got this as Olensky is shutting
down a reported peace plan Vance warrens iss VP vans
warrens us will walk away if no agreement, that's been
reported by Kurt is in Doka Breitbart dot com. Ukrainian

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President of a Lot of Mirs Alensky has rejected the
peace deel framework reportedly proposed by the Trump administration of
freezing the lines of conflict and recognizing with Camea as
a Russian territory. Planned peace talks in London on Wednesday.
That would be today. This is when we're broadcasting live,
which you may be hearing at Thursday. On Friday, it's
still relevant. We're downgraded as it became clear that major
fault lines remade over what an acceptable end of the

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war should look like. Gorden reports last week and Perry
Washington's negotiators put forth an outline of a deal to
end the conflict, which would include America's adjour recognition of
Russia's ownership of Crimea, which Moscow has controlled since twenty
fourteen and is an area traditionally under the Russian sphere
of influence. In exchange, the Kremlin would have to agree

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to freeze the current front line, which Flatten seems like
he's okay with. He has claimed that the four eastern
Ukrainian provinces of don Netsk, Karshanlansk and I'm not even
going to try the last one. It starts with a zee.
I think it's Zabra's Azia are rightfully Russian, citing disputed

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referendums held in the regions. The Russian army has yet
to fully capture all the territories of the disputed provinces
et cetera, et cetera. But they're willing to free front
lines where they're at, and those areas are predominantly Russian
ethnic anyway, so he's not getting much resistance from those
areas anyway. Mostly just is coming from the outside. And

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of course, despite the Ukrainian military having failed to reclaim
came over the past decade, or indeed in the four
occupied provinces over the past three years, Lensky said on
Tuesday evening that conceding any territory is out of the question. Well, okay,
here's the problem, and as I have stated before, here's
the conundrum. We've had to go to break here in
a sack until somebody like NATO and or the US

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are willing to put boots on the ground, and I
mean enough of them, not ten or fifteen or twenty
even fifty thousand. You're gonna need probably two or three
four hundred thousand boots on the ground, along with the
heavy hardware, the missiles, the heavy artillery, really super interactive
planes flying over with the interactive bombing, precision strikes, blah

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blah blah blah, all that good stuff. Okay, until NATO
and or the US are willing to put those kinds
of numbers of boots on the ground, which they're not
or not NATO's not. Now Poland has rattlesome swords, and
if he gets too close to their board of they're
jumping in and putting his hell back. Unless that happens,

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unless two three four hundred thousand boots from NATO into
or the US are on the ground in Ukraine to
roll putin all the way back to the Russian border,
and it could happen. I mean, if that were to happen,
that would happen probably in a matter of weeks. Short
of something like that, this is the best deal Ukraine

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is going to get, and nobody is willing to do that.
Nobody is willing to put boots on the ground of
any substantial amount in Ukraine. There are NATO nations and
of course US who have been given him hardware and
supplies and band aids and beans, but beyond that, nobody
wants to commit any sort of ground troops, and not
even much air stuff at that either. So short of that,

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Ukraine doesn't stand a chance to roll Russia back to
it to its original border, to roll the Russians back
to the Russian border, and its allies. So short of that,
this is probably the best deal is Zelensky's ever gonna get.

Speaker 2 (16:14):
This is it.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
This is as good as it gets. So Zelensky's on
some kind of pipe dream. He's on a pipe dream,
and everyone else is on a pipe dream. If they
think he will roll putting back to the border, it
ain't gonna happen. So this is probably the best that
he can get. And this is what he was told
in his last little dust up that was televised live.

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I watched it and many of you did too, when
he was talking to Vance and Trump and they're like, look, dude,
you know you're not in a position to really dictate
what this thing's going to look like. Vance is pretty
much saying, you know, you keep this up, dude, you
may find yourself on your own because we're not going
to support this thing forever. And the main reason why

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people aren't putting boot on the ground because Trump is
because of Putin has said, well, you know, you put
sizable forces on the ground to help Ukraine fight me,
I'm going nuclear literally. Now that's probably a bluff, but
nobody's willing to take the chance that crazy Putin might
not actually pull the trigger on those nukes and have
a worldwide nuclear war i e. World War three, basically

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r Armageddon, all right, So people are kind of spoot
by that. So this is why there will never be
boots on the ground in Ukraine, all right, or that's
very unlikely. So Zelensky's gonna have to take what he
can get. Beggars can't be choosers, and this is probably
as good as it's going to get. And that's just
the brutal truth of the whole thing, which he doesn't
want to deal with. Let's take a pause, but the

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Comdministration seems to be making it kind of clear taking
her to leave it, dude, because we're not going to
be sitting here giving you funds forever. And they go
happen back with more.

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Speaker 3 (19:59):
All right, right, so let's get into a broiling boiling
and still controversial thing going on. Let me reiterate somethings
from the last show. There's a lot of conflate, there's

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a lot of myth and a lot of misunderstanding, and
it's still going on. But I think some people are
being to pull back. And there's court stuff going on
and judges, you know, doing crazy things and saying crazy things.
I've ever going to madge just a second of one
federal judge. That's some pretty hot water, pretty hot water

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who had to actually resign. Tell you why in just
a sec Yeah, there's this idea that the minute a
person puts their big toe on our side of the rio,
grand kaboom, they are quasi citizen entitled to pretty much most,
if not all, of the Bill of Rights, with the

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exception maybe owning a gun. Now, you won't find that
in your constitution anywhere, so don't even bother looking. It's
not there. And we use proper hermeneuties allowing the Constitution
to interpret the Constitution. Our constitution, our bill of rights
are for one particular group of people. It's the people
of the United States of America, says so in the preamble.

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That's who it's for. It's not for the world. It's
not for the you know, the citizens of the world.
We are the world, we are the children. YadA, YadA, YadA.
It's not for it's not for the entire world. It's
for American citizens. Now that has been stretched a bit
over the years to include people who've been invited here,
people who are conditional residents, who are permanent residents, who

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are on work visas, get some of the benefit of
citizenship even though they're not full tilt citizens. But understand,
if we take let's get on the logic train and
let's go down to the end of law of logic junction. Okay,
if we extend virtually full due process and full rights
and everything to someone who has come here illegally, that

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waters down the value of citizenship, does it? Not of
actual citizenship, because what's the difference. The difference is at
best nuanced. Okay, that doesn't make sense. We're not subject Well,
we're heading towards being subjects of the federal government. We're
not subjects of the federal government. Old Abe said, this

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is a government of the people, by the people, for
the people. Again, back to our parablances. We the people
of the United States of America in order to form
a more perfect union, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.
Doesn't say we the politicians, we the government bureaucrats, we
the lawyers, we the public officials, we the citizens of
the world. It doesn't say that. So those dow processes

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to c dicies, fourth, fifth, sixth, you might as well
maybe throw in the fourteenth Amendment apply to Americans American citizens,
or it's been stretched a bit over recent decades to
apply to folks who are here on some sort of
a legal status that we agree to and are okay with,

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all right, not someone who just day before yesterday put
their big toe on our side of terra firma of
the real grand You with me so far?

Speaker 7 (23:30):
Okay?

Speaker 3 (23:31):
Now, what typically happens, and I discussed this last week,
and I'll kind of reiterate when someone utters the magic
words I'm the THEA or amnesty. See, that's what they've
been told by the cartels and the NGOs. By the way,
a lot of American NGOs who are encouraging these people
and helping to finance them and give them backpacks and

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new tennis shoes and fresh clothes. That's why some of
These people look rather fresh as they crossed the border.
They just went, you know, shopping it. I don't know,
raw stress for less or something. They've been told here's
the thing that you say. Then they're given a court
data four or five, six years from now. That's an
exaggeration to have a hearing about their ammescy status. The

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ones that bother to make it most don't. The ones
that bother to make it to the hearing, more often
than not, are denied amnesty. Because I just want a
better life, I just want to make more money is
not considered a reason for applied amnesty by our legal system,
by our laws. Okay, it just doesn't work that way,

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So they're denied.

Speaker 6 (24:42):
Now.

Speaker 3 (24:42):
If there happen to be some ice nine as people
hanging around and standing around the courtroom that day, well
then they're usually shipped off to some sort of a
detention center. Then in a few weeks a few months,
they're deported. The judges will typically issue deportation orders unless
you're some other big getting circumstance all right right now,

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Depending on whose news reports you read and whose dad
of you think is accurate, the numbers I have gleaned
seem to be in the ballpark of one point four
to maybe in excess of one point five me and
deportation orders exist on the books right now, signed off
on by federal judges, both Dams and Repubs. Okay, several
weeks back, I played some clips from Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton,

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for that matter, other Democrat politicians who a few years
ago were all four deporting criminal illegal aliens. You're gone,
You're not gonna hang out. You're not gonna do this stuff.
You're out of here. No mention of due process or anything.
Just you know, we're going to find you and you're gone. Now,
we can we can probably delineate between what some might

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call a short form due process, which is what I
just described in terms of people claiming amnesty of a
short forum. If you will doe process, then there might
be a longer for him. Now, there are states and
local jurisdictions and so forth. Who somebody commits a crime,
who's here illegally, you know, they'll go ahead and prosecute

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these folks, put them in jail for a period of time. Oftentimes,
once they're out of jail, then ice will come to
get them, or somebody will come to get them, to
just get them the heck out of the country once
they've served their time. But in sanctuary cities they fight that.
Explain that. Explain that logic to me, I've never gotten it. Okay,
this person killed some folks. We're gonna get into in fact,

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a situation where a guy did, he had multiple charges,
was convicted on multiple charges, and is now about to
get out of jail, and trumpministation is saying, well that
the second he does, we're nabbing him and he's gone.
And he's been here more than once illegally. Again, do
you have laws in the books at USC thirteen twenty four,

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eight USC thirteen twenty five. What's also the one at
USC thirteen twenty six. I've encouraged everyone listening to please
read those statutes. Yes they are lengthy. Yes, it'll probably
take you two plus hours, and your eyes will glaze
over and you're gonna go this is some of this
is boring, but stay awake because you're gonna find some
things that will shock you and you go, WHOA, wait
a minute. I've never seen this or heard this rarely

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ever being applied. Why aren't we enforcing these laws? Why
don't we enforcing these penalties of thousands in some cases
six figures against people who willingly keep people here they
should be deported, hide people here they should be deported,
encourage them to come across when they shouldn't be encouraged
coming across. Why aren't those people in jail. Yeah, there's
a lot of NGOs doing that because these things are
not uniformly and often enforced. This is one of the

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arguments I've been making for a long time that much
of this boils down to lack of enforcement. We've got
tough laws on the books in terms of the legal immigration. Again,
I would refer you to eight USC. Thirteen twenty four,
eight USC thirteen twenty five, and let's go in eight
USC thirteen twenty six for good measure. Okay, I remember

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when these laws first hit back in the day, when
Ronald we're gonna said, Okay, I'm gonna allow some amnesty
for six whatever plus million people. It was We're gonna,
you know, cut them some slack. But listen, Congress, I
want some tough laws on the books regarding illegal immigration.
I want these laws hardened and toughened up. Give me
some stuff. He told that to tip o'nealing company. Remember

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back in those days, the Dems were pretty much running
both houses. He said, sure enough, and they gave them.
And I can remember it being down in Texas in
the very late eighties and early nineties, down in Austin,
and I can remember watching the local TV news and
it was like every week you would see a raid
happening at some corporate office. The corporate execs are marched out,
you know, their lawyers with the folders up, hiding their

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faces and all that in, their heads down, and a
FBI was there, I and S was there. The local
police were there, the Sheriff's Department Texas, you know, the
Texas Rangers were there, all kinds of law enforcement, you know,
lights flashing, everything else. And people were hauled out and
convicted under federal statutes and went to jail for years,
and their companies paid pretty heavy duty fines, oftentimes of

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six plus figures when all the charters were all added up.
That went on for a while. That went on for
a while. And if illegals coming across can't get a job,
well then how do they stay here? How do they
support themselves? Well they can't. They got to go drifting
back in many cases. And that was happening back then.
I saw it on the news down on the front
lines there in Texas, and it worked. Imagine that the

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enforcement of the laws actually worked for a while. Then
it seems like long about I don't know, mid nineties,
ish kind of backed off of some of that stuff,
and now here we are. Judge quits after suspected trend
de at Agua gang member found living at his home.

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The Court's now scheduling hearing to address the situation being
put by Bob Bundew, Democrat judge in New Mexico has resigned,
fleeing his office after a suspect allegedly a member of
the violent trend the Aragua Gang from Venezuela, was found
living in his home. How about them apples, Yeah. A
report from Fox News explains, quote Donya Anya, a County Magistrate.
Judge joel Cano's resignation letter is dated March third, but

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a spokesperson for the Administrative Office of the Court's AOC
incidentally told Fox News Digital it was not received by
the Supreme Court and Third Judicial District Court until March
thirty first pardoner. The report explained homeland and security investigations
and Las cruise to started looking into Cristian or Teke Lopez,

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a native of Venezuela, described as an illegal alien and
a suspected member of a criminal gang, again living in
this judge's home. The allegations included that he was living
with other gang members and in possession of firearms. How
about them Apples. Then two search warrants were executed at
a home that was identified as owned by Kenyo's wife,

(30:51):
Nancy Cano or taken. Lopez and his roommates were taken
into custody, and said agent seized four firearms from Aprilkano's
residents Kno's, a daughter of Nancy and Joel A. Court
documents state, according to the report for the Rotekee, Lopez
had posted on social media with various weapons. The report
said he took poses of himself thought he was pretty

(31:13):
proud of all that. Suspect the minde that he entered
the US illegally from Mexico in Waite for It twenty
twenty three and was living in that El Passu apartment
with others when he met Nancy Cano to install a
glass door for the report set or when he later
was evicted from the apartment. The report said Nancy Couno

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offered a place where we live in the back of
the home she shared with husband Joel Kano. The report said.
Property records show that Thome is owned by Nancy and
Jose Kano, who goes by Joel. Official said, now the
state Supreme Court has scheduled a hearing regarding Kano. Well,
I can tell you he's in violation of eight USC.

(31:53):
Thirteen twenty four. I'm no lawyer, but I can read.
But let's see if you'll be thrown in jail for
a period of time and find tens of thousands of dollars,
if not more, Let's just see what happens. Let's see
what the courts do. Let's see if they even enforce
the stuff. That would be interesting to note. But he
had to resign. You had to quit what you should have.

(32:16):
And let's see. Let's see. Let's see what kind of
prosecutions happened. Now, a federal judge, uh, this is in
the this is in Denver, this is in Colorado. Federal
judge issues temporary restraining order against Trump deport deporting people
under Alien Enemies Act. Now this, let's back up a minute.

(32:38):
Supreme Court said you have an alien Enemies thing is good,
but you got to do process. But yeah, you can
do that. Then the Supreme Court trans said, well, yeah, no,
we're gonna put a pause on it just a few
days later. Okay, I don't know what's going on with
our schizophrenic Supreme Court. I'm scratching my head, going, okay,
you say yeah, you can do it. Well, now, wait
a minute, we've changed our minds. There's your there's your

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juda review. Anyway, the lawsuit was followed by the American
Civil Liberties Union on behalf of anealians tag for deportation.
The mass deportation plans of the Trump administration have once
again been stummied by a federal judge issuing a temporary
restraining order. Why Well, this time it was US Strict
Court Judge Charlotte In Sweeney of Denver, Colorado, who said
Tuesday that President Donald Trump may be improperly invoking the

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Alien Enemies Acts of seventeen ninety eight to facilitate the
deportation of illegal aliens. Even though Supreme Court said it
was cool, then they said, well, wait a minute, now
she's jumping in and going, y'all, no proclamation makes no
finding that satisfies these This is her proclamation makes no
finding that satisfies these definitional demands. Thus, to the extent
the proclamation relies on the Acts Invasion and incursion provisions

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to justify its removal powers, it does so improperly. The
lawsuit filed by the American Civil Liberties Union argue that
those tagged for removal from the US need to be
given opportunity to fight the deportation proceedings in court. Okay,
why why they came here illegally? Why why do these
folks suddenly have some kind of special privilege that most don't,

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that most don't who are here illegally? They're just deported
short form if you will do process. She's arguing for
long form due process. Sweeney prohibited, but again, you can't
find that somehow this exists in an imaginary world. Sweeney
prohibited the government from deporting the two Venezuelan plaintiffs in

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the case, as well as one hundred others detained at
a facility in Auror that would be sent to maximum
security Prisident Old Salvador for terrorists. She also ordered the
administration to give detainees at least twenty one days of notice. Again,
I'm gonna state the obvious here. Part of me says,
so what, they're here illegally. The people who go before
judge who have claimed asylum have a hearing, the judge says,

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aun't sorry, they're deported or they're scheduled forty portation. That's it.
That's over. While all of a sudden, do these guys
get special Let's call it long form due process. I mean,
I'm just standing the obvious here. Both playings in a

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lawsuit deny that they are members of Tranda Iragua. Okay,
who cares? She still came over illegally, a vicious gang
that Trump labeled as a terrorist group in order to
invoke the seventeen ninety eight laws when he also opined
that the acl used legal challenge to the removals under
the Alien Enemies Act would likely be successful based on
other successful lawsuits against the Trump administration. She also found
the wartime declaration by the President against an invasion from

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Trandea Iragua to be dubious in nature. Quote, these words
fundamentally demand military and wartime actions. When he determined, oh,
that's arguable, maybe not. The proclamation makes no finding that
satisfies these definitional demands. Who's defining it?

Speaker 1 (35:53):
You?

Speaker 3 (35:55):
Thus, to the extent that the proclamation relies on the
Act's invasion incursion, Well, I don't know. Several million folks
coming across our border and lawfully in a period of
you know, eight plus million, eight and a half whatever,
whose numbers? Again you look at of our numbers, don't
have there as high as ten million. Who knows. Let's
just rock been say safe somewhere with down eight and
ten million. How about that the proclamation makes no finding

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that satisfies these definitional demands. Thus, of the extent of
proclamation relies on the acts invasion and incursion provisions to
justify its removal powers, it does so improperly. Now Earlier
in April, course, you a Supreme Court determined that Trump
good continue deportation proceedings under the seventeen ninety eight law,
but also unanimously found that those subjects deportations had a
right to defend themselves against orders. Why why? Vp Geddvance

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has argued on social media that new process was too
laborious for the government to undertake where millions of illegal
aliens still resided in the US. Yeah, it takes centuries
given the slowness of our courts. But there's already on
the books one point again, one point four to one
point five million deportation orders. That's it, there's already been
due process. You're gone on all right, Let's take a

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pause here because I'm gonna play a clip when we
get back. I count of throws cold water on this,
and uh, I'll let you, I'll let you hear it.
You can judge for yourself. But there's this, this narrative
has just taken hold that somehow, somehow, folks who are
here illegally, maybe because if they've hung around a while illegally,
they deserve some they deserve some sort of long form

(37:26):
due process before they're booted out. And guys, that's a myth. Okay,
you can look at your constitutions, shake it sideways, hold
it sideways, look at it every day except Sunday. You're
not going to find anything like that for a non
citizen who has broken the law to come here illegally. Okay,

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let let's go back to Let's go back to the
to the inconvenient fact with these people that they've already
broken the law there. So, man, these people have come
through two or three times. Well, under our statutes, that's
a felony. But again, they're here, you're illegally, Okay, these
are not citizens. These are not citizens. Okay, they're not

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entitled to every right in the Bill of Rights. Simply
because they managed to sneak in and hang out here
for a few extra days, Well suddenly they become a
quasi citizen. Show me that. I can't find it. Maybe
it does exist, I have yet to. I mean, I've
scoured a USC thirteen twenty four, eight USC thirteen twenty five,
eight USC thirteen twenty six. I can't find it. In

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terms of the federal government's duties. Now, yes, local courts
and local people in counties and states. Okay, if these
people commit pretty serious crimes, I think prosecute them, throw
them in jail. But typically how it's worked under federal
statute is once they're released from those jails, once they've
done their time by there's no more additional trials that
need to happen. You're gone. And I understand these are

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people who are standing accused, but let's not forget the
say it point that they crossed the border illegally. Even
if all the charges are dropped, even if all, even
if they say, okay, maybe we were wrong, they still
cross the border illegally. There, that's not up for disputing.
Nobody's disputing that these Venezuela's here illegally. Okay, well depart them.
Or if they claim if they claimed their uh status

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of you know, I'm antea, Okay, let's fast track him.
Get him in front of a job who's going to
deny it? Homnest to you and guess what They're going
to be issued a deportation order. We sent to a
detention center and eventually sent south. That's typically how that works.
That's all they do. But it's short formed new process
if you will. But that's all they get. Let's take
a break. We got my Christian talk that rock straight ahead,

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stick close, Hey.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
What's up?

Speaker 8 (40:01):
This is Toby Mack with the Five Loves of a
Jesus freak. Write them down, hide them in your heart.
Here they are, Love God, love his word, love your enemies,
love your neighbor, love truth.

Speaker 2 (40:15):
Sound easy?

Speaker 3 (40:16):
Not likely.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
If all that does come.

Speaker 8 (40:19):
Too easy for you, you're.

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Probably not working hard enough.

Speaker 8 (40:22):
On the other hand, these five loves should become second
nature to any authentic Jesus free if you let God's
grace offen your heart one more time. Love God, love
his word, love your enemies, love your neighbor, love truth.

Speaker 2 (40:38):
Amen.

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Take your all, right, I'm gonna play clip. This is

(42:04):
from Fox News, and I like to play a lot more,
but they cut you down at just three minutes or less. Sam,
we'll see in early studio. So, uh, I don't want
to be sued. I'm only gonna play just a portion
of this. But the Trump administration is also they're doing
kind of a well, let's let's kind of play these

(42:27):
people at their own game, and they're kind of using
this racketeering thing. They're following the first racketeering charge against
Massive Migrant Terrorist Group Illegal Immigrant Terrorist Group. Really Trump
State Department has designated Trendy out Ago, who were talking
about there these people that that this judge in Colorado
thinks they need a little more new process, as well

(42:48):
as several other migrant gangs. President throughout the US is
foreign terrorist organizations. It's been bored about Pepneto, Fox News,
trendy Iragua is all in against United States expert warrants.
First week or recketeering charges against members and associates of
the Migrantterist Group and others Trendy Iragua were filed last
week actually in New York. I bet some of you
didn't know this because the mainsteing media hadn't talked too

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much about it. Where we are saving by the US
Attorney's Allers for the Southern District of Neuvo, York said
that the case is part of a quote Operation Take
Back America, which it is said, is a nationwide initiative
that marshals the full resources of the Justice Department to
repel the invasion of illegal immigration. Achieved the total elimination
of cartels and transnational criminal organizations TCOs have protect our
communities from perpetrations of violent crime. According to the statement,

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the charges filed against twenty seven alleged current and former
Trendy Aragua TDAA members include human smuggling, sex trafficking, and murder. Quote.
Today we've filed charges against twenty seven ledged members, former
members and associates of trendy Iragua for committing murders and shootings,
forcing young women, traffics from Venezuela and commercial sex work,
robbing and extorting small businesses, and selling a tussy, a

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pink pattery drug that has become their calling card, announced
Matthew Padalski, the acting the United States Attorney or the
Southern District of Nueva Jork. Podofski said that the indictments
make clear that this office will work tirelessly to keep
law abiding the residents of New York City safe and
hold accountable those who bring violence into our streets unquote.
Charges have fallen two separate indictments, and first again six

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alleged current members of Trained the Aragua, and the second
against twenty one alleged members and associates of a splendor
gang known as Anti Train, which consists of former TDA members.
Go figure that out, but anyway, there you have it.
Trump State Department has designated Trandiawaga, as well as several
other migrant gangs present throughout the US as foreign terrorist organizations.

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His attorney office for the Southern District of New York
said twenty one of the twenty seven alledged gang members
and associates are currently in federal custody. Statement said that
sixteen were already in federal criminal immigration or a state custody,
and five were arrested over the last couple of days.
DHS Secretary of Christian Nome actually toured that El seven
or prison. By the way, most of the alleged gang

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members are in their twenties, with the oldest being forty four.
Many facing multiple life in prisons sentences if they are
found guilty. Charges include rocketearing, sex trafficking, importation, which will
be a violation of a UAC thirteen twenty four, drug
trafficking and carjacking, conspiracy, ribery, illegal firearms possession, and use
of extortion, blah blah blah. Among the most egregious of
the charges included in the indictments are the smuggling of

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multadas that's indentured sex workers from van Huela into Peru
and then into the US. At According to US Jorney
Office's statement, both TDA and Anti tran operate and keep
the Maltadas trapped in a life of sex slavery by
threatening to kill them and their families, and by assaulting,
shooting and killing them, and tracking down those who attempt
to flee. Those are real great guys, right, Your Attorney General,

(45:40):
pambody A. Bondi, commented on the reco charges, saying, quote,
today's indictments and arrests are in three states, pan three states,
and will devastate tda's infrastructure as we work to completely
dismantle and purchase organization from our country. She was speaking
to reporters when she said that, all right, so let
me let you listen to this clip. This is from

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Fox News, and this is from a guy who was
a former official and deal general. Anyway, I'll let you
hear the clip.

Speaker 9 (46:15):
Here the way, in retired Homeland Security Investigations Supervisory Special
Agent Victor of the Victory, you heard what the Attorney
General had to say. We are essentially at war with
trend de Arragua. Some people say that's hyperbole, that it's overstated.

Speaker 7 (46:30):
What do you think.

Speaker 2 (46:32):
I don't believe it.

Speaker 11 (46:33):
Is, John Not only is she right but our National
Security advisor is also correct in talking about in using
these terms like warfare terrorists, because this is what they are.
I've been sounding the alarm of the linkage between tanda
Awa and the Madudu regime, which is the big cartel
Cartel de Solis or Cartel of the Suns, and the

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linkage is a national security threat to the United States. Also,
let's not forget that then, I was linkage to the
Mexican cartels, a lot of them obviously because they came
through Mexico make contacts with these cartels that recruited them
and help them financially. Because we know that they sell
their drugs, we know that they participate in the illicit

(47:19):
activities in the United States. And so let's not ignore
that linkage as well.

Speaker 9 (47:23):
So you think that in some respects Trendy Aragua is
actually acting on behalf of the Maduro government in Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
I believe they are, John.

Speaker 11 (47:33):
I believe that Maduno knows exactly who they are. At
least a lot of them from prisons, a lot of
them ex military members by the way, that were well
trained in weapons. And this is why the Mexican cartels
loves them. Because they are already well trained, they're easy
to be recruited, and a lot of them are very
young in age. By the way, don't be mistaken by

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being a seventeen sixteen year olds. Sometimes, you know, we
tend to call them an unaccompanied minor, and sometimes we
think that minor might be a six year old. No,
they're actually fall into that category. But they're fourteen, fifteen, sixteen,
seventeen year olds that are highly trained killers, criminals, and
unfortunately a lot of them have made their way into
our country and when we find out, it's too late

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because they've already committed a crime against one of our citizens,
or even against one of their members of their own community,
the immigrant community.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
So this is how dangerous this group is.

Speaker 9 (48:24):
Yeah, sadly, they have really proliferated throughout the United States.
We have a map that shows where Trende or Arragua
members have made their presence known, and you can see
all the way from Montana down to Florida, significant numbers
of this gang. What does Maduro get out of supporting

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or encouraging a gang like this?

Speaker 2 (48:48):
What's his goal?

Speaker 7 (48:49):
Do you think?

Speaker 11 (48:51):
Well, first of all, they are enemy of the United States,
and we know Maduro's linkage to Iran, who then obviously
the linkage with Hesbola in Venezuela. Hesbela heavily involved with
the cartels in Mexico, So.

Speaker 2 (49:06):
That's the terrorism angle.

Speaker 11 (49:08):
Obviously, the ideology is there between these other nations, Cuba
included and Mexico is not so far apart.

Speaker 3 (49:16):
So what he's saying is basically this is a quasi
military invasion, which means that, yeah, the Alien Enemies Act
would apply. I mean, you can't use this judging in
Colorado's trying to use this seventeenth or this eighteenth century,
seventeen hundreds definition of a war. Those days are over.
We're at war. Let me just remind you of this

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state's authority to repel i legal aliens. This is the
state's authority, not this is for states, and this was
upheld by the Fourth US Circuit Court. What I'm about
to share with you when Texas said, yeah, we can
boot these people out of here because we're being invaded,
and the courts kind of agreed. Article four, Section four
states authority to repel legal aliens. United States will guarantee

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to every state. This is a constitution gang to every
state guaranteed to every state in this Union and republican
form of government, and shall protect each of them against
invasion and on application of the legislature of the Executive
when the legislature cannot be convened against domestic violence. Article one,
Section ten Powers denied of the state's Paragraph three, No
state shall, without the consent of Congress, lay any duty tonnage,

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keep troops or ships of war in time of peace,
enter into any agreement or compact with another state or
with a foreign power, or engage in war unless actually
invaded or in such imminent danger as will not admit
of delay. And the fifth US Secret Court said, yeah,
that kind of applies here. Yeah, we're gonna apply it,

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sure enough. Then again you have originally Supreme Court saying, yeah,
the alien enemies thing that works now all of a sudden,
Well in a minute, Well you allowed Texas to do it,
but the federal government can't do it. The trub administration
can't do it. Yeah, I don't get that large ke either.
Let that one soak for a little while. You see,
there's there's games happening here. Gang. There's a lot of

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politics and games that are getting built into this thing.
A lot, too many, too much, too much. We've got
this story. Let me let me jump into this one
before we have to go to break top. Trumb officials
file charges against the legal immigrant after Fox News exposed

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his early release plans. Quote, my office's file fell on
the immigration charge against this defendant, a key California prosecutor said.
Being imported by Cameron Art khan Uh and Bill Malugen
Fox News, Tom Holand also vowsed to port a legal
immigrant and granted early prisoner released by California. The com
administration is folling federal charges after hearing them. The legal
immigrant convicted of manslaughter, who's already had his due process

(51:50):
as was in his first road heo have been convicted
of other stuff, is set to be released over six
years early by the California state government. California know it
was prize there, but anyway. Oscar Ortega and Guano was
driving drunk, high and speeding at nearly one hundred miles
per hour on the four or five Freeway in Orange

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County November twenty twenty one, when he crashed into a
car being driven by a young couple, nineteen year old
Anya var Folomeve and Nicolay Ohsokin, which killed them both
as they burned alive. Their car burst into flames and
they burned alive. This is in spring twenty twenty two.
He was convicted of two counts of gross vehicle and
manslaughter with while intoxicated. By the way, it wasn't his
first rodeo. Fox He's reported on Wednesday morning that the

(52:35):
that Ortega and Guano will be released by California state
government on July to nineteenth, after serving in just three
and a half years. It was ten year sentence, and
the families of the victims were informed of these early
release on Easter Sunday. Let me let you hear clip.
This is from Bill malugin Fox News talking about this
whole thing. By the way, the family's not real happy.

Speaker 7 (52:56):
Yeah, Dana, good morning to you.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
This illegal alien had a lengthy wrap sheet here in
California long before he ever killed these two California teenagers.
Will selony convictions on his record, several convictions for driving
without a license, but he was still out and about
on California's rows, and this young American couple ended up
paying the price for that, and now their killer is

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getting an early release. It was November twenty twenty one,
a fiery collision on an Orange County freeway, a young
couple dead and the driver who crashed into them a
twice deported illegal alien from Mexico with multiple felonies in
custody for being drunk, high and speeding at nearly one

(53:38):
hundred miles per hour.

Speaker 12 (53:40):
I got a knock on the door and there's two
police officers.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
The pain written all over the face of Pavel Osokin
as he recalls being told his son Nikolaine and his
nineteen year old girlfriend Anya Varfolomeve, for instance, they were kids,
were gone.

Speaker 12 (53:56):
They told me that there was a horrible incident, and
then his girlfriend Ania and basically what burned alife in
their car.

Speaker 4 (54:06):
She was my daughter, Anya's father an Atolly got a
similar knock on the door that night.

Speaker 13 (54:13):
She said just name, said, yes, it's my daughter. My
wife came downstairs and she was screaming and cried.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
She said no, no, no no.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
In spring of twenty twenty two, a jury convicted Oscar
Eduarda or Tega Anguiano on two counts of gross vehicular
manslaughter while intoxicated. A judge sentenced him to ten years,
but on Easter Sunday, the family say they received this
notice from the California Department of Corrections that on July nineteenth,

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he'll be getting out.

Speaker 12 (54:48):
Two years for killing two kids. It's confusing to me,
why you give them ten if they're going to spend
five and zen.

Speaker 13 (54:55):
Three yet two young productive American citizens for nothing, and
that illegally immigrant who already has been devoted twice is
going to be released again.

Speaker 4 (55:09):
In a statement, the Department of Corrections wouldn't confirm the release,
but said in part quote, incarcerated persons may earn credits
for participating in rehabilitative programming, which may move their parole
dates to an earlier date. Anya and Nicolai's families are
now sending letters to the state calling for Ortega Anguiano
to serve his full sentence.

Speaker 13 (55:29):
All those dreams were cut short just by one person
who was not even supposed to be on that freeway.
I will never forgive this guy, never ever.

Speaker 12 (55:41):
I hope he's going to stay in prison. I hope
he is going to get old in prison, and I
hope he's going to get kicked out from our country.

Speaker 4 (55:49):
In end, and Dana Ice confirms the Fox News they
have placed a detainer on this illegal alien with them, all.

Speaker 3 (55:56):
Right, so you kind of get the picture there. There's
a Democrat strategist who's warning party against making a martyr
out of a Brego Garcia. That's being reported by Mark
Tomasco also Fox New. He's got a lot of Fox
News stuff here, and the Democrat strategist is actually warning
his party against making a martyr out of Garcia. He's

(56:20):
the one that was that's down in El Salvador now
and all these Democrats have gone down there to kind
of talk the country into getting him out of there,
possibly violation of the Logan Act. But you know, again,
I'm not an attorney, but kind of seemed like it.
Longtime Democrats strategist Mo Lsee advised his party not to
align too closely with Kilima Brego Garcia, who, according to

(56:43):
the Trump administration, was deported last month as a name
of a thirteen gang member who also violently beat his
wife and he had some convictions and stuff against him gang.
I'm going to share another clip here in just a
minute from Fox. During an appearance on CNN's The Arena
with Casey Hunt on Friday, he reminded the Democrats that
they don't know of all the details about this guy,
and warning against making him a martyr, and he instead

(57:06):
recommended that it's party focused on what he receives as
a Trump administration shipping away at our rights? What rights
Democrats' strategists Moe warned the Democrats making a martyr out
of him. He said, let's not make him a martyr.
Let's make this about the fact that Donald Trump and
his administration are chipping away at our rights on a
daily basis, because again, he holds the same false narrative

(57:28):
that the minute you stick your big toe on American soil,
you suddenly become a quasi citizen and get full citizenship rights.
No you don't, No, you don't, and that you get
long form due process. No you don't. In fact, Sander
christ Dan van Holland, who is the consummate winbag politician,

(57:48):
is the kindest thing I can say about him. He
also predicted, by the way, Van Holland predicted that Kamala
Harris would be the next president. Yeah, we kind of
would call that, I guess, a false prophet, but you know,
he's political fall profit, I guess. He recounted his meeting
with the Breego Garcian L Savador during a press conference
on Friday, during which he said he would not stop
fighting until the man is released from L Salvador in Megaprison,

(58:09):
because he wants this guy back here, a guy that
beat his wife, a guy that was caught transporting eight
illegal aliens illegally in violation of eight USC thirteen twenty four.
He's also done stuff that you can probably apply eight
US he thirteen twenty six four. Let's toss that in there.
But you know, Van Holla doesn't cary about that poor

(58:31):
guy being picked on by the Trump administration. He pushed
back on Moe pushed back on the Evan Hall of
Holland's approach and questioned whether the senator's message could resonate
with the rest of the country. He said, Look, I
think everyone in the White House are giving each other
high fives, and everyone who supports the guy and El
Salvador are giving each other high fives. Right both sides

(58:53):
have kind of gone to their corners and are saying
this is the fight we want to have, whereas I
don't necessarily know it's a conversation that but actually resonate
with the rest of the country. He's right it's not
because around the kitchen tables, people are like, Yeah, what's
the problem. The guy's a gangster, he's a creep. He
has been actually convicted of some stuff. He's had some

(59:13):
due process and they and all, well, he still needs
more due processes. No, he doesn't anyway, Let me hear
this other clip, This is also from the Fox folks
on the overall view of this guy and what's been
going on. This is on one of their morning shows.

(59:34):
This is the other morning on one of the Fox
and Friends on the Fox and Friends Morning Show. Uh,
you know the usual cast characters on that show. But
they were talking about some stuff that I thought this
was an interesting conversation, so I want I wanted to
share it because it also got into some more details
about this guy, which most of the rest of the
mainstinct media won't mention. They're starting to kind of shy

(59:55):
away from this whole thing a little bit. Don't know
if you've noticed that Christina the Pope has taken up
a lot of their time. The Pope's passed singing some
other stuff, and they're they're kind of backing off of
it a little bit because they're starting to realize that
there's a whole lot of holes in the boat, and
the boat's kind of starting to sink a little bit,
so they're backing away from it. They're not going to
apologize that maybe they didn't give you the full story,
which they usually don't, but they're just suddenly kind of just,

(01:00:16):
you know, going to creep, just just slowly creep away
from it and move on to the next shiny object
that they hope you'll rally around with them as their
numbers decrease. I'm talking to CNN, MSNBC, the Marxist Socialist
Nationals Broadcasting Collective, ABC, CBS, usual alphabet soup of folks.
But let me let you hear this, Cliff, Why are.

Speaker 14 (01:00:38):
You doing this with a criminal? Especially maybe you could
have claimed ignorance before. But over the last couple of days,
the DJ has released what the judge said, which is
there was credible information from sources that he was a
part of MS thirty team. He appealed that, and another
federal judge said the same thing. Then we found information

(01:00:59):
that he he's been beating his wife, and there was
credible two different situations, and I think.

Speaker 15 (01:01:05):
You have some of the stass she applied his wife
applied for a protective order against her husband in twenty
twenty one.

Speaker 16 (01:01:11):
And this is what she said.

Speaker 15 (01:01:11):
I was watching on my laptop, I guess in bed,
and he yelled at me to turn it off. I
told him I wasn't sleepy. He got angry, reached over,
shut and threw my laptop on the floor. The baby
started to cry because he was putting pressure on him.
My immediate reaction was to push him off of us,
and he then punched scratched my left eye, leaving me bleeding.
She goes on to stay. She also accused him of

(01:01:33):
ripping her shorts and shirt during another explosive argument later
that day. I ran to the bathroom, he ran behind me,
grabbed my arm. I have marks on my left arm
as well. She was afraid to be close to him
hit her at least two times in twenty twenty, once
with his boot, another time left her with a purple
eye so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
Also on his lunshaw.

Speaker 17 (01:01:51):
When he was actually arrested at that at that home depot,
they talk about him hanging out with known MS thirteen
gang members. You don't usually hang out with gang members
if you're not in the gang.

Speaker 3 (01:02:00):
But let's just keep going.

Speaker 17 (01:02:02):
During the interview with officers, they observed that he was
wearing a Chicago bulls hat and a hoodie with rolls
of money covering the eyes, ears, and mouth of the
presidents on the separate dominations. Officers show such clothing to
be indicative of the Hispanic gang culture. The meaning of
the closing is represent see no evil, hear no evil,
say no evil, and that's when you wear the MS

(01:02:22):
thirteen stuff.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
So that's why a judge looked at his case. He goes,
this guy's in the gang.

Speaker 17 (01:02:26):
When he realized he was going to be chipped out,
he said.

Speaker 3 (01:02:29):
I can't.

Speaker 17 (01:02:29):
He goes, I'm climing asylum. They go, well, we're going
to reject something. Because if you rejected, don't send me
back to El Salvador. Because I think I'm going to
My life's going.

Speaker 2 (01:02:37):
To be in jeopardy.

Speaker 17 (01:02:38):
Well that was one reason why he wasn't deported yesterday.
He made a statement saying that he had no fear
of going back to any Central America nation.

Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
So what are you talking about.

Speaker 17 (01:02:49):
So this guy's story, he's a wife beater. For a month,
she had an order of protection. He was picked up
with known gang members and he was having wearing gang
member things, and when he was a rat, he had
drugs on him in rolls.

Speaker 2 (01:03:02):
Of cash, and he has no job.

Speaker 17 (01:03:04):
That's the man Democrats are go in the back.

Speaker 14 (01:03:06):
And he was human trafficking in Tenny. Semblers will taking
people from Texas trying to get them to Maryland. And
we have to Suffolk County District Attorney who has prosecuted
over the seventy five members of MS thirteen.

Speaker 2 (01:03:19):
He goes.

Speaker 14 (01:03:20):
Part of the reason why we don't have part of
the violent history is because he was right below a homeboy.
So to get officially initiated in there, you have to
commit some violent act. So he hadn't reached that stage,
that level of MS thirteen yet at this point he
was just an errand boy.

Speaker 3 (01:03:38):
But still working for him. No, so, just just a
real quality potential US citizen, right, yeah, No, then we've
got this this from Newsmax. Salon's rerainer of Newsmax legand
immigrations at the US Mexico border has decreased. Believe imagine
that with all this going on, has decreased by ninety

(01:04:00):
seven percent, an i llegal drug activity by sixty percent
or more since President Donald Trump took Office. Air Force
General Gregory Guillo told newsbags he said, we took the
executive order on the twentieth of January and ran with
it a US border and customs protection and with some
policy changes, he said. On Monday's National Report, he said

(01:04:20):
stopping the cartels has been a challenge, he said, but
his team has handled it. Quote. First thing that I
think we really had to focus on is when we
say cartel, it's not a homogenous cartel, he said. There's
dozens and dozens. They're all different, and they have different specialties,
they have different ways that they try to conduct legal activity,
and so as we try to counter their ability to

(01:04:42):
challenge our territorial integrity with the legal flow of drugs
or people across the border, we've really had to get
smart on them in a hurry because I know, you know,
they're all very different and that's exactly what they But look,
this stuff is working. Look at how the flow has

(01:05:04):
slowed down to a trickle, to something that's highly much
more manageable than what we were seeing the past four
or five years. Frankly, finally there's this before we go
to break. Barbara Jordan Democrat her immigration blueprint. It now

(01:05:24):
has been sort of revived of sorts, sort of revived
of force, being bored by world. In that Daily Staff
she was for slashing the chain migration loopholes in the
visa lottery mandate. He verifies for everybody, Barbara Jordan. Her
thunderous warning still echoes Texas Democrat. Immigration is a privilege

(01:05:49):
we extend only when it strengthens, not undercuts American workers.
And those who should not be here must be required
to leave. And this interview, and that's what she said.
This is her lost blueprint. This was her blueprint. She said,
selasid chain migration loopholes and the visa lottery. Many need
verify for every hire Washington. By the way, Barry Jordan's

(01:06:13):
plan the day she died. This needs to be flooded
to your representatives. People need to take this and flood
it to the representative. This is her plan. You can
look it up online. Let's refuse to let another politician
trade away your wages, your security, or America's unity and

(01:06:33):
the name of fake compassion. That's what this is. Fake compassion.
They're not looking after your interests, which they should you
elect them. They're looking after the elent of the interests.
Of everybody else in the world. Forget you. You're just
a spoiled, rotten, ugly American. That's pretty much the message

(01:06:54):
is coming from much of Washington, Republican and Democrat frankly,
because there's a lot of Republicans who like to coze
you up to all these business and business organizations who
do like the illegal immigrants being here because it's cheap labor.
Cheap labor. I mean, it's almost like the what happened
right after the Civil War when slaves were freed they

(01:07:16):
went into a secondary form of slavery, of sharecropping. It's
almost like that in a sense. There's a difference, is
but it's almost like that, let's get these light brown
people to do the grunt work that suppose the Americans
won't do. And oh, by the way, the narrative of
well we'll go to hop these people will start with
because you're the ones picking everything without letting you know
that ninety percent of most agriculture is mechanized, automated or

(01:07:42):
semi automated. You don't need a thousand people in a
field to pick it clean. Now you've got harvesters that'll
do it. You need just a few of those and
a few people running them, and sometimes you can remotely
run the things. It's crazy how some of the big
farms have gotten so mechanized and computerized and everything else.
It's it's almost it's almost automation or semi automation. To

(01:08:06):
So where do these people go if they're not in
a fields picking whatever? And some things don't need to
be manually picked, I get it, but not luck You think,
where do they go? Well, they go to working in hotels,
cleaning rooms, they go in food service. They go in
food service. That's where they wind up, some of them
in certain factories and industries. That's where they end up. Construction.

(01:08:27):
Some are in construction, some aren't. But that's where they
wind up. Not picking, not picking tomatoes anymore. Most most
of the fruit picking stuff and planting, you know, the
harvesting stuff, it's automated, done by big tractors, big machines.
So don't don't let them hit you with that narrative.
That's a false one. A lot of false narratives surrounding

(01:08:48):
this whole thing. But do your homework, do your research,
check out the stuff again, read the laws on the books.
Eight US s thirteen twenty four EIGHTUS S thirteen twenty five,
eight US HE thirtyeen twenty six. Come to your own conclusions.
You have to be a lawyer to well, there's a
lot of legal LEAs and a lot of it might help.
But you can read. If you can read, then you

(01:09:09):
get the gist of it. They're fairly self explanatory. And
if there's a phrase or some words you don't understand,
we'll go Google search them or duck duck goam and
see what they mean and then go, oh, okay. And
by the time you peruse all those statutes, my god,
you you'll be close to probably having a law degree.

(01:09:31):
You can probably you know, a few more classes, you
can probably pass it. Darn the the Darth law exams.
I mean it's it's yeah, it'll make you, it'll make
your eyes glaze and your brain hurt for a while,
but keep but push through, you know, taking an ass n
and keep pushing through, and in a couple three hours
you're gonna you'll do like me, probably And you go,

(01:09:51):
holy mickerel, why how I have of this stuff being enforced?
It's on the bucks. Darn good question, darn good question.
More Christian talking. The rocks traded head gonna shift gears.
Crazy stuff happening in the education system. One speaking of

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Fox News, one representative of the teachers getting into it
with one of the talking heads on there. Didn't appreciate
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I'm cramming about a three hour show into a two

(01:14:18):
hour show. Let's go here. So you may or may
not have heard about this case. It erupted in Maryland.
The parents are not real happy about having the LGBTQ
special books and the Agenda for practical purposes in their
school run rammed down the throats of their kids for
religious purposes. Now there are Christians, Muslim Jews, et cetera

(01:14:42):
who are not real thrilled about this. So this case
has finally gone through from the Maryland courts up to
the Supreme Court. That's where it's at, up into the
Supreme Court. Okay, because they're kind of saying, well, look,
don't we have kind of a all right in religious
freedom here to kind of say, well, we don't want

(01:15:02):
our kids to be a part of us. We want
our kids. They want their kids to be able to
opt out of this stuff, some of this frankly woke
ideology stuff. And these are young kids. They want to
tell you they they they want them being exposed to
some of this stuff just quite yeat or any kind
of sex add for that matter, regardless of whether it's heterosexual,
LGBTQ or oriented whatever. This is interesting from Justice Kavanaugh.

(01:15:26):
He shocked the state that founded was founded on religious
liberty and now won't let parents op the kids out
of the LGBTQ story books. That's being reported by the
Daily Calor News Foundation Kaitlin Richardson. Justice Brett Kavanaugh expressed
surprise too, is either schools in the states founded on
religious liberty are now banning parents with religious objections from
opting their young children out of LGBTQ storybook lessons.

Speaker 7 (01:15:48):
Now.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
The case, by the way, is Malmoud v. Taylor. It's
it's and the majority of the Supreme Court has appeared
ready to side with the parents. But of course, you know,
we won't know to the end who want to opt
their children out of Montgomery any Board of Education's mandated
storybook readings involving pronouns, transgender children and pride parades. Quote.
I guess I'm a bit mystified as a lifelong resident

(01:16:08):
of the county how it came to me how it
came to this, Kavanaugh said during oral arguments, he said,
can you trust to tell? Can you just tell us
what happened? In March twenty twenty three, Eric Baxter, senior
counsel for the beck At Fund for Religious Liberty, said
that the district promised for an entire year that apparents
will be notified and allowed to opt out of the lessons.
The last notice happened on March twenty second, twenty twenty three,

(01:16:30):
he said. The very next day, overnight, with no explanations,
broy came out and said, you know what, we're changing
the rule because we want all students to be instructed
on inclusivity. Ah, there's that DEI stuff. Alan Schoolfield, attorney
for the school district, told the justices it stopped offering
opt outs when it became unworkable. However, the district already
offers opt outs for religious concerns about musical performances, dissections,

(01:16:54):
and high school sex. Said classes, So what's the problem
quote virtually everything else under the principal deputies. Solicitor General
Sarah Harris said. The one thing they don't allow is
the exemption for the storybooks. Sarah said, which begs question. Well, why.
Several justice suggested that the school's curriculum does not really
expose children's ideas without requiring them to affirm what is
being taught. Is that a realistic concept when you're talking

(01:17:17):
about a five year old? Chief Justice John Roberts asked,
just as Sammy Cony Barrett noted, presenting an idea as
facts is not the same as exposing students to an idea. Quote.
It's saying this is the right view of the world,
she said. This is how we think about things. This
is how you should think about things. This is like
two plus two is four. Also, Justice Neil Gorsia Charlso

(01:17:37):
raised questions about statements made by board members involved in
the policy, noting some suggested students were parroting parents dogma
and that parents are promoting hate taking a viewpoint endorsed
by white Supremat Assistant xenophoops quote. Does that suggest a
hostility towards religion? He asked. Last year, the Fourth Serre
Courth of Appeals held two to one that the parents'

(01:17:58):
free exercise rights were not burdened by the district because
their children's mere exposure to the books and not goisdom
to change their religious beliefs or conduct justice as pro
both sides for the proper tests to determine whether religious
exercise had been burdened, and Leo criticized some colleagues for
skipping normal procedures to but anyway, just as Atlantic kake

(01:18:19):
in order that there were probably many non religious parents
who weren't all that thrilled about the books, but wondered
if siding with the parents would mean opt outs for
everyone well regardless. I mean, if they if they want
opt a kid out, let them offer kid out anyway.
I mean, does the state own your kids or you know,
are they under your purviewsky what we're talking about here anyway,

(01:18:40):
And that's been an ongoing discussion for a long time.
Let me let you hear some of the back and
forth that erupted between some growing heat, if you will,
between Sodo Mayar, who sparred with Alito during some of
this stuff that's also being reported by Haley g Zing
Fox News. The leader can he trobably continue with his

(01:19:03):
explanation about some stuff, So I'm to try to jump
in justice. Samuel Leedio and Sonya Sotamore snapped at each
other during Tuesday's arguments over parental rights and LGBTQU curriculum.
After the UH, the so called liberal justice attempted to
jump back into the questioning as a leader was speaking,
I prefer to call her a socialist justice. I don't
mean a social justice, but a social ist justice that

(01:19:23):
she's on liberal. The short quarrel happened as the High
Court listened to arguments and my mood by Taylor which
coalition parents ought to solid by the right to be
informed about and opt their children out of reading LGBTQ
related material in elementary schools. And that's for little kids. Now,
we're not talking to high school We're talking, you know,
the little guys. Okay, let me let you hear a
bit of this exchange. And this comes courtesy the the

(01:19:48):
people that record this stuff in the Supreme Court as
it's going on, and it's been released, some of this
has been released publicly. Let me let you hear the
clip there.

Speaker 20 (01:19:57):
So mister Baxter, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. Let me just
finished the shipment. So just answer my question is looking
at the pictures, is there any affidavit from any parent
that merely looking at people getting married holding hands, none
of them are even kissing in any of these books.

(01:20:18):
The most they're doing is holding hands. That mere exposure
to that is coercion.

Speaker 21 (01:20:23):
Our parents would object to that, they thought, all.

Speaker 20 (01:20:25):
Right, now, so let's move to what I think your
objection is. I think your objection is to the student
guidance correct.

Speaker 21 (01:20:33):
Our objections would be even to reading books that violate
our client's religious beliefs. They've been their faith teaches. For example,
they shouldn't be exposed to information about sex during their
years of innocence without being accompanied by moral principles.

Speaker 2 (01:20:47):
And here we have.

Speaker 21 (01:20:47):
Both books that violate their moral principles and instruction that
tells them that, for example, they can pick their pronouns
based on the way they feel, not even just for
based on their gender, but how they feel from moment
to moment.

Speaker 22 (01:21:00):
And mister Becker, uh, before we move away from the
book that just a subt of money or was referring
to Uncle Bobby's wedding. I've read that book as well
as a lot of these other books.

Speaker 2 (01:21:12):
Do you think it's fair to say that all that.

Speaker 22 (01:21:14):
Is done in Uncle Bobby's Wedding is to expose children
to the fact that there are men who marry other men.

Speaker 21 (01:21:22):
No, in your honor, and this corn in Obergafel promised
that parents would be able to continue to teach what
this court called decent and honorable beliefs that same sex
marriage is immoral according to their beliefs. And it's a
far stretch from that for schools to compel students to attend.
Parents are paying taxes that they have to pay, a
threat of criminal finds or penalties, or the expense of
private school, and then to have teachers telling them things

(01:21:44):
that are directly contraard.

Speaker 2 (01:21:46):
Yeah, the book.

Speaker 23 (01:21:47):
The book has a clear message and a lot of
people think it's a good message.

Speaker 2 (01:21:50):
And maybe it is a good message, but.

Speaker 23 (01:21:52):
It's a message that a lot of people who hold
on to traditional religious beliefs don't agree with. I don't
think anybody can read that and say, well, this is
just telling children that there are occasions when men marry
other men. Uncle Bobby gets married to his boyfriend Jamie,
and everybody's happy and everything is you know, it portrays this.

Speaker 22 (01:22:15):
Everyone accepts this, except for the little girl Chloe, who
has reservations about it. But her mother corrects her. You, no,
you shouldn't have any reservations about this. As I said,
it has a clear moral It has a clear moral message,
and it may be a good message. It's just a

(01:22:36):
message that a lot of religious people disagree with.

Speaker 3 (01:22:40):
And that's the whole point is does religious freedom extend
just does it the guaranteed right in the first moment
of religious liberty, religious freedom allow parents to pull their
kids this is just Christians, this is must Jesus. But
a bunch of it's a you know, across the board
who aren't real thrilled about this. So, you know, it's
just a little young for my kid be exposed to it.

(01:23:01):
And even if you if you're non religious, I think
there's a lot of probably non religious people, maybe some
atheists that might say, you know, it's kind of a
big young for my kid to be exposed of this
kind of stuff. And right now I'm just gonna you know,
create some confusion and these questions in their mind. And we
just feel like they're too young to be kind of
wrapping their head around this stuff. You know, five six,
seven year olds. It's it's a big young again. This
is happening in elementary school gang. This isn't like high

(01:23:21):
school levels. So we're talking like little kids who were
just you know, they have no clue what sex is
even about. You see what I'm saying, it's almost like
a borderline sexualization of these kids. This is what's sort
of weird about all this, and I think a bit
insidious about the whole thing. And it goes back to
parental rights as well. I mean, let's set the religious
side of it aspect of a decidner for just a second.

(01:23:42):
Parents have the right to just up and do this
for whatever reason. We just think that's not appropriate for
our kid right now. Then maybe an atheist parent, but
they still think it's it's a little, you know, a
little bit much for the kid. Mya for my kid's
age to be exposed as we don't like it. Can
they opt a kid out of it? I mean, there's
a broader question here, and I think that's what it
was getting at. Plus it isn't ideology. It's being kind

(01:24:03):
of thrust down people's folks. I mean, I mean kids
trust their teachers, like well, teacher said, you know, an
account of trust that they trust adults at that age,
they're easily influenced and these people know that. Come on,
Jonathan Turley Wade in he said, teachers are killing the
institution of public education. No kidding, explain. Supreme Court case
reveals this one that we're talking about, reveals how they
are treating parents like captives being put by Bob Unwold daily.

(01:24:26):
The Supreme Court schedule for Tuesday included oral arguments in
the Muhammad are the mal Mood I should say the
Taylor case, which essentially involves a decision by school officials
of Montgomery County. They flip flopped on themselves Maryland to
impose their ideological agenda on children and families by force.
They're doing this by requiring young students to be well,
this is what socialist students, which communists do. Okay, you
need to understand that. Like I keep talking about, we're

(01:24:49):
past liberal versus conservative gang. That's that's that's irrelevant. Get
get that out of your head.

Speaker 24 (01:24:53):
Move on.

Speaker 3 (01:24:54):
We're past all that. They are doing this by requiring
young students to be subject subjected to to LGBT and
doctrination and giving parents no opportunity to off their children
out of the offensive lessons. Parents charge that's a violation
of their legal and constitutional rights. But even before the arguments,
a constitutional expert in legal scholar has expressed his opinion

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that such mandatory ideologies and public schools have gone way
too far. That would be Jonathan Turley. He says, quote
teachers and when boards are killing the institution of public
education by treating children and parents more like captives than consumers. Again,
he's a law professor, and he's a popular commentator. He
also testified as an expert before Congress on constitutional issues
and as representative members in court on consercialist spirits. He

(01:25:37):
went on to say, quote the air force feeding social
and political priorities, including passes for engaging and approved protests.
He explained, as public schools continued to produce abysmal scores,
particularly for minority students, board and union officials have called
for lowering or suspending proficiency standards or declared meritocracy to
be a form of off of white supremacy. Gifted and

(01:25:59):
talented programs I'm sure being eliminated in the name of equity.
He went on to explain that when parents have a
choice in education, then these teachers lose a virtual monopoly
over many families. They are no longer captive audience, i e.
These folks who are losing their power, and people don't
like to lose power. Generally speaking, he said, the Maryland
fighter is over officials requiring children to participate in instruction

(01:26:20):
that includes LGBTQ plus themes. He said, at the heart
of the issue is the fact that parents object to
the use of public schools to advance social and political agendas.
He explained, while the school insists on using the ideological
books to recognize diversity, it is the parents who have
the stronger argument, and he said a decision for the
parents could prove one of the most important victories for

(01:26:42):
parental rights in decades. He noted the Supreme Court already
has recognized in Wisconsin v. Yoda that it was beyond
debate that parents have a First Amendment right to guide
the religious, future and education of their children. He warned
the consequences of teachers and administrators destroying public education by
elevating agendas over academics. Well, I agree with Turley, but
I want to say, hello, dude, where you been? This

(01:27:03):
has been going on for decades. This is the socialist,
the Communists, the Marxist taken over the school systems, he
went on to say. He said there is an irony
in the position before the Supreme Court by a public educator,
So reversal may be a critical change in slowing the
departure of families from public schools. One of the families
discussed in this case the sold their house to afford
private schooling for their children. By limiting such mandatory programs,

(01:27:25):
some families may be less likely to seek alternatives to
public schools. These families want to send their children to
public schools while retaining their role in insulling religious values
for their children. Montgomery County is forcing the choice that
few parents will make against their family values. Oh yeah,
I think he's right. I think he's dead on on that.

(01:27:51):
And the irony, like he suggested, is that if the
Montgomery County schools who loses this thing, it might actually
keep more appearance in the district. But if they win
this thing in the Supreme Court, it's looking like the
from the pundits and commentaries are probably not Uh, the
Supreme Court is probably going to go ahead and side
with the parents. They tend they do tend to lean

(01:28:14):
more often than not always, but do tend to lean
more often towards religious liberty and freedom speech and that
sort of thing than they do against it. In various
cases that tends to be their overall the courts, overall
track record. I mean, we'll have to see I mean
to throw these curveballs at you and you go, well
and see that one coming, you know. I mean, it
can happen. We've seen it before. But there's well, there's

(01:28:35):
gonna be some consequences to that. There gonna be some
crazy consequences to that.

Speaker 25 (01:28:42):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:28:43):
Let me let you hear this exchange. It took place
between Martha McCallum on Fox. It is just being parted
by World Nit Daily and uh, and she's longtime Fox personality,
by the way, she wasn't going to tolerate the patronizing
attitude of the American Federation of Teachers President Randy Winegarden,

(01:29:03):
who's been a disaster in my opinion. And this went
down Tuesday as the two discussed government schools on acallum show.
I'll let you go ahead and hear this clip and
this exchange between Martha McCallum, who's gotten pretty testy lately,
guess and Randy Winegarden, who said, yeah, kind of a

(01:29:26):
patronizing remarked him to old Martha there and she didn't
particularly like it, as Martha was kind of making this markuments, Look,
we've been pourting tons of money in the school system,
but we're not getting all these very great results. Of course,
Randy Winegardens were saying, they're clamoring that we need more
money to be shoveled in by taxpayers in the school systems.
When you compare the outcomes of our public school systems

(01:29:49):
compared to other Western and industrialized nations, and our scorers
are pretty lackluster, and they're not putting near the money
in the school systems that we are. So where's the
disconnector what's going on? It seems like the more money
we throw the thing, the worst thing, the worst the outcomes.
So apparently money is not the is not the full
problem here. There's something else going on. And that's what
Martha McCallum was suggesting, and she's correct to suggest that.

(01:30:10):
And this is why a lot of parents are pulling
their kids out of public schools, putting into private schools
or home teaching their schools, because the outcome a lot
of times tends to be better than what they're getting
in public schools. When you have record numbers of kids
coming out, you can barely even reading writers something paces
can't read and write, can't do basic math, don't understand
basic history, don't understand basic science, and they still manage
to sneak into universities, which makes you wonder what's going

(01:30:31):
on there, which is more more about the money than
you know what the kid knows or doesn't know. But
let me let you hear this clip.

Speaker 20 (01:30:38):
She was not real happy me to do is we
need to actually do more of that.

Speaker 26 (01:30:44):
So you're saying that because you know, if we can
find other areas around the country where the proficiency levels
are also abysmal and should be embarrassed to any education
organization that we can start to make assessments and say that.

Speaker 2 (01:30:59):
Always because of choice or.

Speaker 1 (01:31:01):
Is because of money.

Speaker 16 (01:31:02):
We know that money does not equate a better outcome
because in New Ork majority you have a per student,
per capita expenditure that is one of the highest in
the country, and.

Speaker 25 (01:31:11):
You have actually very very different Martha, Martha sweetheart sweetheart
listened to especially does I'm sorry my bead.

Speaker 2 (01:31:20):
It actually does matter.

Speaker 25 (01:31:22):
And in fact, some of the some of the most
some of the conservative UH folks who used to say
that money doesn't matter, actually have changed their minds.

Speaker 1 (01:31:35):
So the issue I wanted to.

Speaker 16 (01:31:37):
Traditionally programs and choice programs and be able to give
it to parents who want at homeschool their kids.

Speaker 3 (01:31:43):
And yes, yes, yes, I'm talking.

Speaker 25 (01:31:45):
About people who are actually been looking at these these numbers.
And I'm saying to you, is this things like Title one,
which Mississippi used to hugely increase its literacy rates, that
money really does matter, and conservatives liberals all believe that

(01:32:09):
we should actually have Title I in schools and the
disproportionate amount of money goes to red districts like twenty
percent of Mississippi educational.

Speaker 16 (01:32:25):
The things that they've done Mississippi is to expand choice.
They're also doing something really important Mississippi, which is to
expand teacher training because they realize.

Speaker 25 (01:32:34):
That the teachers themselves do.

Speaker 16 (01:32:37):
Not necessarily understand the things that they're supposed to be teaching,
which is a massive problem across the country. So I
do give them credit for that. And however, we must
be clear eye were actually the fact that our students
over the past twenty eight years have had very difficult,
very weakened.

Speaker 26 (01:32:57):
Outcome, and we see it at the college level.

Speaker 16 (01:33:00):
We see when kids are being pushed through these systems.

Speaker 1 (01:33:02):
I'm talking to a T shirt.

Speaker 16 (01:33:03):
The other day she said, I can't hold a kid
back who can't read in third grade. I am forced
to be through these system So so.

Speaker 3 (01:33:11):
Martha, Yeah, she just went on more with her, with
her her union spiel. Look, she's a disaster, Randy Winengarden.
She's a disaster to the union. She's a disaster to
the teachers. And it seems like the more money we
spend with our ever increasing property tax dollars and other
tax dollars to pay for all this stuff, we're not

(01:33:32):
getting the results. Parents are seeing that, states are seeing that.
States are noticing that. And by the way, the out
of the box thinking that took place down in Mississippi
is what some desperate states are doing to try and
bring the scores up, to try and make sure that
kids when they graduate do know how to have decent
reading proficiency and math level skills and science skills and
a basic understanding of American history centance and you know,

(01:33:56):
their civil liberties and blah blah blah. Because they're being
shoved out of a lot of public schools, they can't function,
they don't understand. So to survive, yeah, they got to
go work at a fast food joint, or they go
sell drugs and robin steel and do everything else and
wond't get in trouble, went up in jail, or if
they do manage's sneaking to a college, the colleges a

(01:34:17):
lot of times have to pretty much just give them
these jen rex that basically are repeat of the eleventh
and twelfth grade that they should have gotten the eleventh
twelfth grade that they didn't. So a four year education
becomes a five or six year education that mom and
dad of course have to pay for with exorbitant price tags.
And people are getting tired of it. And Randy Weiningarten

(01:34:38):
is in La la land. She doesn't seem to understand
the reality of what's really going on. But again, you know,
she's going to make these boneheaded statements and arguments and
try to quote facts that don't exist. And Martha Catter
and Martha wasn't putting up with it and the patronizing.
See that's the way these people are. They're very patronizing.
Well you just don't know you you just don't get it, sweetheart.

(01:35:00):
Really really, she's a nice show one than me. I
would have said, you know what, This conversation is now
over by and just and told him to get her
off of here. I would have put up with it.
That would have been my aint. You're gone right there,
never coming back on my show ever again. But that's
just me. So I give what the credit for not
telling the producers cut her audio, cut her video, we're done, sweetheart.

(01:35:25):
So I'll give her. I'll give her some credit for that.
She was she uh, she stood up for herself. And
then she jumped in on there and said, wait a minute.
You know, we got some facts here that just kind
of blow out of the water what you're saying there, sweetheart. Anyway,
let me let's take a break. Let's go to break sweetheart.

(01:35:46):
More Christian tarcoelt Rocks Franklin Graham talking about speaking of
young adults coming back into the church and pretty big waves.
What's that about?

Speaker 4 (01:36:00):
More Talk continues next with Ritchiel more Christian talk than Wrath.

Speaker 27 (01:36:05):
Next, Oh, this is Max macclan. God created all things
by his word. How does the word have the power
to create? Because his word is a person. Listen to
the Bible from John One.

Speaker 28 (01:36:22):
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was
with God, and the Word was God. He was with
God in the beginning, through him, all things were made.
Without him, nothing was made that has been made. In
him was life, and that life was the light of men.
The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has

(01:36:45):
not understood it. He was in the world, and though
the world was made through him, the world did not
recognize him. From John One, listen to the Bible. It's
great for the sun.

Speaker 20 (01:37:01):
Here more at Radio Bible dot org.

Speaker 3 (01:37:13):
I thought, all right, does a poll out this says
Americans losing their appetite for censorship of false information being
puted by Seanmoran Breitbart dot com. American support for the
restriction of quote false information online even if a restrict
freedom of expression has dropped that according to a few
research polls, since twenty eighteen, Americans had increasingly supported the

(01:37:35):
US government and tech comedy centering quote unquote false information online,
even if it meant that they would stifle freedom of expression.
Or maybe some of the so called false stuff turns
out not to be so false, right, actually turns out
to be true. I mean, who are the people holding
the measuring rod for what is true and what's not?

(01:37:55):
Some federal government bureaucrat who's got an agenda and a
dog in the hunt. Yeah, support for curbing false information
had reached its zenith in twenty twenty three, with fifty
five percent of American adults saying that the US government
should limit false information and sixty five percent said that
tech companies should be to do the same. Converse, the
only forty two percent of American said in twenty twenty
three the freedom of information should be protected even if
it meant false information could be published, and thirty two

(01:38:18):
percent said the same about tech companies protecting freedom of speech. Now,
fifty one percent of Americans said that the government should
should restrict false information online, a four percent dip from
two years ago, and sixty percent say tech platform should
be the ones doing it. Of course, they went on
to break this down and said that Democrats and Democrat
leaning and Democrat leaning independence are much more likely to

(01:38:39):
support restricting false information than Republicans and Republican leaning independence.
No surprise there in that breakdown, but anyway, there you
have that. Then there's this which the MAINSTINC media has
kind of ignored. But we're going to get into it
because things that the MAINSTAC media ignore I like because
there's a reason they're ignoring it. D and I releases

(01:39:03):
secret Biden plan, raising serious civil liberties concerns. He wanted
to use censorship, d banking, gun control, and even non
criminal behavior to attack certain folks and groups of folks.
Non criminal stuff that's been pared A by John Arlott,
Junior Real clear Wire Director of National Intelligence s See
Gabbard has declassified a shocking plan by former President Joe

(01:39:25):
Biden's administration for dealing with domestic terrorists so called. Last Wednesday,
Gabard released a June twenty twenty one document titled Strategic
Implementation Plan for Countering Domestic Terrorism unquote henceforwarth the plan
but despite the release in receiving over six point three
million views on x by this past Monday morning, and

(01:39:47):
has been a pretty big topic on social media all
over the Internet, it's been ignored by the media. The
major media. Most of the major media outlets have ignored
this thing. Imagine that well, Americans are very familiar with
many Biden Arab policies. A newly declassified document reveals that
the actions were part of a coordinated action from early

(01:40:07):
in administration across a wide range of government agencies to
target quote unquote domestic terrorists took about this domestic threat.
The Biden administration advocated censorship, closing people's accounts at banks
or financial institutions so called debanking, and gun control. Identifying
criminal activity through people's speech already raises serious concerns, but
the new document goes even further. It shows it officials

(01:40:29):
aimed to track concerning non criminal behavior, non criminal behavior,
and move with no precedent in the US. This revelation
cast this were US citizens, by the way, we're talking
to illegals here. This is American folks. This revelation casts
the Biden administration's actions in a very different light and
redefines how the public should interpret recent revelations. And what

(01:40:51):
about due process here for American citizens? See, this is
the hypocrisy, or we're going to have due process for
somebody who just came across the border yesterday because they
are kind of a quasied citizen. But they you said,
then we're gonna take you. We're just gonna shut down
your mic accounts. We're gonna make an impolics Dubai gum,
We're gonna take down all your social media stuff because
you know, you're kind of good cutting closure, haven't really
broke any laws yet. But you know you're kind of

(01:41:11):
cutting closes. We're just gonna go ahead and punish you.
You see the hypocrisy. This is the way the socialists
and the Marxists and the communists want to do things.
You understand me. This is what we're up against. Let
me continue. The plan starts by casting a wide net
and how that nif that's why we're we're past conservative,
liberal schmil blah blah whatever. Plan starts by casting a

(01:41:32):
wide net and how to identify as concerning activities and
instructions authorities to quote provide resources to state, local, tribal,
and territorial law enforcement. The cover relevant iconography, symbology, and
phraseology used by many domestic terrorists, most of sturberly and
completely absent from the publicly released unclassified version of the
plan in June twenty twenty one. It directed the Department

(01:41:54):
of Justice, the FBI, and the Department of Homeland in
securita to target incidents of concerning non criminal behavior non
criminal behavior. Although the original unclassified newly declassified versions of
the plan mentioned freedom of expression a few times, the
updated version strongly suggest that censorship is necessary to protect
both democracy and free speech even though we're not a democracy,

(01:42:14):
but see the socialist want us to be. The language
closely mirror is a European Digital Security Act. Ay, I
see by a bunch of other European style socialists who say,
I think that's just great, which claims to fight this
information and hate speech in the name of safeguarding democratic values.
Uh huh. The Biden administration obliterated the line between lawful

(01:42:35):
expression and criminal intent by encouraging federal agencies to monitor
speech and involve no criminal activity. Once you read the
declassified version of the plan, it becomes clear that the
Biden administration's actions weren't necessarily by accident. Of course they weren't.
Despite repeated public denials, It followed an explicit policy of
identifying people based solely on their political viewpoints. At twenty

(01:42:55):
twenty two, an FBI whistleblower exposed a role out of
a related document, the FBI's Domestic Terrorism Symbols Guide for
Identifying Militia Violent Extremists also known as mvs. As Congressman
Jim Jordan wrote a letter to the FBI directs for
christ per Ray, the guide advised agents to be suspicious
of someone was like two a and imagery referencing the
Second Amendment. It also flagged historically significant emblems like the

(01:43:18):
Betsy Ross flag. That's the one with the thirteen stars.
We're gonna be seeing a lot of that as we
celebrate the UN and fiftieth anniversary of the Declaration of Independence.
My gosh, I saw reenactors carrying that flag. Are those
domestic terrorists? Now, if you're a reenacting group that which
I saw, if you carry one of these you know,
I don't know, like the gads and flag or some
old old timey flag that's against Great Britain, Oh my gosh,

(01:43:41):
that might be a domestic terrorist. I mean, this is silly.
These are indications of domestic terroristscoring this plan. Of course,
in December twenty twenty three, reports revealed that the FBI
categorized certain Catholic Americans there you go, as potential domestic
terrorists and the FBI whistle blowers Stephen Friend testified before
Congress in May twenty twenty three. We talked about it
that in Nause on the show Go Back and Listen

(01:44:01):
to Archives. I've still got archives available from pretty much
most of that year that he was tasked with recording
the license plate numbers of parents who attended school board
meetings and express concerns about topics such as critical race
theory and gender ideology while a boy. The administration and
publicly stated their intent was limited to criminal activities, that
the classified documents reveal the targeting of individuals based on

(01:44:24):
their expressions of free speech or religious policies and having
done nothing criminal whatsoever. The concerns and criticisms about overreach
arose from the administration's explicit policy. In fact, several mentions
are made of disinformation and all this and that anyway,
you can go read this article It's at real clear
Wire by John Arlott Junior and again avoided like the

(01:44:47):
plague by most of mainstream media. Anybody's shocked. Let me
see a show of vans by his shocked by that.
That's what I thought. This is the kind of this
is the kind of activities that you're founding. Fathers were
concerned about by our own federal government, which is why
they put things in place like a Bill of Rights,
which is why they restricted the powers of the federal government,

(01:45:08):
which is why things like the Tenth Amendment arose. That
ultimately it was remember it's the States that created the
federal government, not the other way around. That the watershed
of powers would be vested in the states and the people,
not the federal government. Do you understand that, Okay, read
the federalists, Read the federalist papers. Read what the architects,

(01:45:30):
especially James Madison as chief architect of our constitution, thought
about these kinds of things. It's all in there. It's
nothing new under the sun. But this is what they
were concerned about, this kind of overreach and abuse of
power by your government. And this is what the Biden
administration kind of sneakily was putting under the radar there
as much as they possibly could get away with. And

(01:45:50):
members of that administration, I think probably more members than
Biden himself, Joe Biden and Joe Biden had a hand
on this, but I think a lot of it was
the people who are around him, who were the ones
we now found out were running things, not him. It
was a sham, It was a gang. This was a
sham presidency. This really was This is almost like a
borderline Manchurian candidate thing. I mean, it really was kind

(01:46:13):
of frightening. Now and now more stuff is coming out,
We're going whoa we're going whoa pam Bondi she launched
and then we'll let you hear it here in just
a sec she launched a task force to combat anti
Christian bias. She's launched this task force because, as your

(01:46:34):
Australia has pointed out time and time again, there is
anti Christian bias is baked into the cake and a
lot of government local, state and federal. Of course your
jurisdiction is more the federal, but she can also dip
into some of what's going on in the local coalities
and states as well. Anyway, this is being parted by
World nd Daily staff. U Attorney General Pamela Bondi hosted

(01:46:56):
Trump administration officials at the Department of Justice Tuesday. She said,
together this task force, she's talking about this task force,
Anti Christian task Force, Eradicating Anti Christian Bias task Force. Together,
this task force will identify any unlawful anti Christian policies, practices,
or conduct across the government, seek input from faith based
organizations and state governments to end anti Christian bias, find

(01:47:17):
and fix deficiencies and existing the regulatory practices that might
contribute to the anti Christian bias. Uh, let me let
you listen to the clip. This is Pam Bondi and
she's targeting something that really exists. I've talked about it
on this show. I have read different things from our government.

(01:47:39):
I just readuced it where they were targeting Catholics. All
these Catholics might be domestic terrorists. You know, you might
to watch these Catholics. Wow, So there is something going
on here, been going on. She's going to address it,
and she should. It's it's kind of it's it's freaky
and scary.

Speaker 29 (01:47:55):
We're excited to be here for the launch of the
Task Force to Eradicate Anti High Christian Bias, as outlined
in the President's Executive Order. Joining me today are members
of the task Force and individuals who have been impacted
by the anti Christian bias. Together, this task Force will

(01:48:16):
identify any unlawful anti Christian policies, practices, or conduct across
the government, seek input from the faith based organizations and
state governments to end anti Christian bias, find and fix
deficiencies and existing and regulatory practices that might contribute to

(01:48:39):
the anti Christian bias. As President Trump has stated, the
Biden administration engaged in an egregious pattern of targeting peaceful
Christians while ignoring violent anti Christian offenses. The President is right.
Biden's Department of Justice abused and targeted Christians. Pro life

(01:49:00):
Christians were arrested and imprisoned for peacefully praying outside abortion clinics.
The FBI spied on traditional Catholics in their parishes.

Speaker 3 (01:49:10):
Yep.

Speaker 29 (01:49:11):
President Biden declared Easter Sunday to be transgender Day of
Visibility no longer.

Speaker 3 (01:49:19):
Yeah, and that was a total smack of the face Christians.
He knew what he was doing, or at least those
around himknew what he was doing. He may not open
in all honestly, but those weren I'm sure sek knew
what they were doing. Finally, there's this Franklin Graham explains
give speculation anyways to why millions of young Americans are
returning to Christianity. This being worried by James lash Yermicharisma
dot com. On Good Friday, the world was reminded that
hope is far from lost. While the headlines may screen

(01:49:41):
the death of Christianity, what's happening across America? Well, I
think what's happening is we're seeing the crumbling of the
religious system that Christianity's got itself tangled up, and I've
said that was coming. And I've also said that revival
is happening amongst younger Americans, and that's when we're starting
to see the fruits of that. What's happening across the
kay and the world is telling a very different story.

(01:50:02):
And a recent segment hosted by Raymond of Royo and
Fox News evangelist Franklin Graham, President and CEO of Smardan's Purse.
By the way, I've got links to that organization for
the sake of disclosure on both the websites Christian Talk
to Rocksteen Thera dot com considered donating because when disaster
is hit, they seem to be one of the first
folks there. Joined to discuss the current culture, cultural climate,
and what many are calling a spiritual revival, and Franklin

(01:50:24):
said it was a movement to God. Let me let
you hear this exchange between the Royo and Graham very interesting,
of course, Franklin Graham being the son of the late
Reverend Billy Graham, but I.

Speaker 24 (01:50:35):
Think he makes some good points perspective on this spiritual
revival across the nation and really the world We're joined
by Franklin Graham, CEO and President of Samaritans Perse. Reverend Graham,
thank you for being here. You were at the White
House the other day. You introduced the President at that
is Easter dinner. What does that event and events like
it represent in your mind?

Speaker 2 (01:50:56):
What's the message being conveyed?

Speaker 30 (01:50:58):
Well, first of all, we have a president that is
not afraid of his faith. He doesn't shy away, he
doesn't run away from it, and he's very bold about it,
and he's very clear about what he believes and what
he stands for. Does that mean he's a perfect person.
None of us are. But here's the President of the
United States talking about Jesus Christ talking about his own faith.

(01:51:22):
And he'll tell you when that bullet went through his
ear there in Butler, Pennsylvania, it was God that spared
his life. He's not afraid to tell people that. So
I really I appreciate this president and what he's doing.
And by inviting pastors of different denominations to come and
have dinner with him, that was a very special evening.

Speaker 3 (01:51:42):
Reverend Graham.

Speaker 24 (01:51:43):
You see these stories of people coming to faith seeking
baptism in record numbers. There's a new Barnapull showing sixty
six percent of Americans claimed it made a personal commitment
to Jesus, a twelve point increase since twenty twenty one.

Speaker 2 (01:51:57):
What's driving this and.

Speaker 24 (01:51:58):
Why are young men eating the shift and the run
into the churches?

Speaker 30 (01:52:04):
You know, I can't answer that except I believe this
is just a movement of God. If you take you
know where you hear these reports that the church is dying,
is that decline in the church, well, the traditional churches
that have gone into other messaging. I want to say
other messaging. I'm talking about political, sexual type sermons or

(01:52:27):
sexualized sermons that people don't want that. They want to
know what God has to say. They want to hear
a message from God, and so people are going to
other places and we see I think young men again.
I just believe this is something God is doing. I
embrace it. I thank God for it, and I just
think it's going to continue. Our country is in a

(01:52:49):
moral nosedive and something's got to turn around, and I
believe God may be just doing it right now. On
our college campuses where you see these young men baptized
in the back of pickup trucks and things like that,
it's it warms my heart.

Speaker 24 (01:53:05):
Yeah, well, you know when in some of the reporters
I've been seeing they claim they are seeking something solid,
they want orthodoxy, they want rigor they want the truth
of the Gospel, which are just what you're talking about.
So a happy Easter to you, Reverend Graham. Thank you
for being with us on this good Friday, and we'll
check in with you soon.

Speaker 3 (01:53:24):
It's something that Royo kind of started this whole segment
off with that I do want to and I can't.
I can only play so much again for legal purposes,
like I can't play like the other stuff because it's
I'm probably pushing on withpe anyway, playing what I've been
playing all day from Fox. Fox has been on it
this week. I've got beats with Fox, but they've been
kind of on it this week past week or so.

(01:53:45):
But he was talking about, you know, the Barner research,
speaking of Barner research, which he mentioned there. Barner Research
has been showing for another's have been showing for a
number of years now a slide of people participating in
you know, the conventional mainline and dominational churches, if you will,
and that there's been an overall kind of loss of religion,

(01:54:05):
if you will, in this country, that people are not
as religious as they used to be. And I think
there's truth in that, but and I think I don't
think those numbers are lying. But I think what it
is is a lot of people are rejecting a lot
of Christians in fact, are rejecting the traditional religious systems,
shall we say, in this country, not necessarily the tradition
of scripture, but the tradition of man. And as Graham

(01:54:27):
pointed out, there's so much garbage it has crept into
the church in recent years, and pop psychology and agendas
and this woke nonsense and socialism and so called social
justice which really isn't necessarily reflective of biblical social justice.
Which there is a social justice aspect to Christianity that
is true, but not in the way that a lot
of people are spinning it. So people are kind of
just you know, they're they're like, well, you know, they're

(01:54:50):
seeing the cracks in religious system and they're going, oh, yeah,
this isn't for me. And a lot of Christians in
fact are bailing out of these churches. Okay, a lot
of them are congregating in homes. But there is a
revival happening. And I've talked about both of these subjects
on this show at nauseamfin item the cracking, the crumbling
of the so called religious system that the church has
got itself tangled up into. And I and I say, Hallelujah,

(01:55:12):
let it continue to crumble and crack. What can we
do to help it? You know, Lord, what can I
do to help bring its demise? Is my prayer? And
thank you for letting it happen. But at the same time,
there is this, if you want to call it, an outpouring,
a revival and awakening really, which I think is really
more of what we're talking about here, another great awakening
in this country and around the world, Frankly, where a

(01:55:32):
lot of young men and women are going, oh, okay,
this is the real Jesus, you know, will the real
Jesus please stand up? And bam. It's ringing with them,
it's ringing with them, and you're seeing, like Frankly Graham
pointed out, I mean kids, you know, getting baptizing a
kiddie pool that somebody has in the back of their
pickup truck, you know, filling it up with water, and
they're diving into it head first and saying, baptize me Jesus,

(01:55:54):
you know, and so you see this, it almost reminds
me a little bit of like the kind of know,
the Jesus Freak, the Jesus Revolution thing that happened in
Lay sixteen nearly seventies, where the hippies all kind of,
you know, becoming Jesus freaks. There's something kind of similar
to that that this this I think probably the last
wave of revival is hitting our nation in the world.

(01:56:15):
I think that's what's happening. If Franklin Graham is seeing
it and others are too, and I think that's what
Arroyal was talking about, and he was saying, yew, while
we do see some numbers showing people kind of going
together the religious superstructure, so to speak, they're saying yes
to Jesus. Okay, So you have both of those happening
at the same time simultaneously. Even Jesus said, look, you

(01:56:36):
can't put new wine in old wineskins because they're leaky.
These churches are leaky because they're old wineskins. It's time
for the new wine skins to happen. I think that's
going tominantly predominantly be home churches and home church networks,
which have their own problems for sure, but I think
that's where the church is headed. I felt that for
a long time, and on this show I have said,
this is what I feel in my heart, the Lord

(01:56:57):
telling me that this is what's cappening, what's in the
near future. Boom, please go back and listen to archives.
Here we are okay, and it's going to continue, and
that's that's a good thing. And the shaking that is happening,
the shaking that is happening in the churches, and a
lot and there's gonna be a lot more folks exposed,
a lot more crooked preachers. We're junking in some of
these denominations in certain corners of Christendom, and lah lah lah.

(01:57:19):
That's all being exposed, along with what's happening in corporate
America and our governments. We are in a time of exposure.
And I say hal to that and time of shaking,
both figuratively and literally, great shaking. We're there, And I say, halleliaton,
if you're if you're a follower Jesus, don't be afraid.
This is the time to shout Hallalia. Please don't be scared.
Shout hallelijo. Okay, and this stuff was predicted in your

(01:57:42):
scripture that would happen in the latter days. Here we
are got to go. On that note, be sure to
take care of yourselves, take care of those that you love,
and remember God has loved. See you next time. Oh yeah,
check out the website Christian Talk at rockstone dot com.
See you next time.

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