Ep. 442 "The Truth About HIV, Prep, and Stigma. A Conversation with AID Atlanta"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh yeah, yeah, Check one two, check one too.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Is this Mike On? Is this Mike On? Hey listen man,
it's the one and only Trunks that a DJ sis
and you're listening to Cocktails Dirty Discussions with.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Kikia Medina Monroe.

Speaker 4 (00:14):
Yeah, today's cocktail is actually a mocktail, and we are
serving up a mocktail today with a message.

Speaker 5 (00:25):
And we want to celebrate hope, health and spread a
little bit of HIV and AIDS awareness today in honor
of our guests. So this cocktail is the Rose Colored Lemonade.
Funny enough, my mom got me a cookbook with a
ton of Golden Girls recipes and this is one of them,
but I had to remix it. I'll put your original
recipe in the description box. But this is how we're

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gonna make my version of the.

Speaker 1 (00:49):
Rose Colored lemonade.

Speaker 5 (00:50):
So what you're going to need is some or are
some marachino cherries. You're gonna need some simple syrup. If
you can make your own, that's always best, But if not,
no worries. You can get a good quality brand like this,
some grenadine, some freshly squeezed lemon juice, and I did
freshly squeeze it. This time, and then you'll need either
still water, club soda, or sparkling water. And then if

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you want to turn your mottail into a cocktail, you
can add in some sparkling wine.

Speaker 6 (01:18):
Or even a little vodka if you're feeling frisky.

Speaker 5 (01:20):
So what we're going to do is take our glass
and we're gonna fill it up with ice, and then
we're gonna take this shaker. If you wanted to make
a big batch, you could, but I'm not doing that today.
So we're gonna take that simple syrup and so we're
gonna pour this in our little shaker that we're gonna
use as a mixer, and you're gonna need a cup

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of it.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm eyeballing cup of simple syrup.

Speaker 5 (01:47):
And then we're going to add in some Maraschino cherries
to that, and a little of the cherry.

Speaker 6 (01:55):
Juice and some grenadine. You'll do about a quarter cup
with the grenadine.

Speaker 5 (02:06):
Then we're gonna take about a cup of the freshly.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Squeezed lemon juice. Don't be afraid that this is too sweet.

Speaker 6 (02:14):
Remember you're adding in your water or sparkling water to it.

Speaker 1 (02:18):
And this is for a big batch.

Speaker 5 (02:20):
So we've got two guests, so we want to make
sure we have enough. Now I'm going to take my stir.
You could shake it or stir.

Speaker 6 (02:26):
I just I'm a stir today.

Speaker 1 (02:32):
Now we'll take this mixture. It's nice and rosy.

Speaker 5 (02:37):
We're gonna pour this in our glass with the ice
already in it, and then we'll top it off with
some sparkling water.

Speaker 1 (02:47):
This is a strawberry hibiscus flavor.

Speaker 5 (02:49):
When to stay with the rose colored theme. And then
we're gonna garnish it with one of the Maraschino cherries
for a few so you can snack onm like we
like to do. Just go ahead and throw three of
them in there. And that, my friends, is a rose

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colored lemonade. Cheers and welcome back to Cocktails Dirty Discussions,
you guys.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I am Kiki said So, and I'm Adina Monroe.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Hey y'all.

Speaker 5 (03:25):
So this week, before we get started, I do want
to remind you guys to make sure, as always you
check the links and everything in the description box. We
have a great episode ahead today with some wonderful ladies
from Aid Atlanta, and so this episode will be a
little different, but we want to make sure that we
get the information out there to you guys because it's
important and sex is fun and games until it's not.

Speaker 1 (03:48):
So just so y'all know.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
This week from AID Atlanta, we have our girls, Marcella
and Palla. How are you ladies doing good?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Thank you guys for coming. And Marcella, you are the
volunteer group outreach coordinator. Yes, Paula, you are the social
media and grants manager.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yes, ma'am.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Okay. So can y'all tell us a little bit what
made you want to get involved with AID Atlanta. We'll
start with you, Marcella.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Honestly, I've been doing this work for like over thirty years,
and so I moved here two years ago and I
got a new husband congratulation, and I decided to get
back into the field and I went to eighty. It
was very organic for me, and being in the field,

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it was sweet that I got this position initially working
with women that were living and thriving with HIV. The
program was called Sisters with a Voice, and so I
worked with women that were eighteen all way up to
eighty that had an HIV diagnosis, and so it was
a real sweet fit for me.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Thirty years in the business, so You've seen a lot
a lot of story.

Speaker 1 (04:58):
Yes, I have. I've seen growth. So where we are
today from where we started Initially I did testing and counseling.
And when I did testing and counseling, I gave more
positive AIDS test results and not HIV and they normally

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didn't live much longer. So it was real hard going
to four, five, six, seven funerals a week, if not more.
And then you know, it changed, where the medication has changed,
people are living and thriving. With women, it is a

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great thing. Now we can be living with HIV and
have a baby and have an HIV negative baby.

Speaker 7 (05:46):
You know.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Wow.

Speaker 5 (05:47):
Yeah, So over the course of those thirty years, it's
good to see that science has evolved and we're learning
more to be able to do better.

Speaker 2 (05:56):
Yes, Palla, what drew you to want to work in
this community?

Speaker 7 (06:00):
Well, I stumbled upon this job like after college when
I was applying to a bunch of them, and then
I remember when they called me. I had I was
just thinking about my biology class in college that I
did an HIV focused class. So when they called me,
I was like, you know what, that's like full circle
moment right now, Like maybe I should go into this
field because I've always wanted to help people do things,

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and I feel like writing grants helps me give people
the resources to do the good work, like Marcella here,
like with the Sisters with a Voice program. So that's
how I stumbled on here.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
You ladies are doing the work like you need programs
like this to educate people.

Speaker 5 (06:41):
Yeah, because there's still people out there who are either
getting misinformation or just not being educated on it.

Speaker 1 (06:48):
So before we ask.

Speaker 5 (06:49):
You more questions, because we have so many, we're going
to move on to weird sex.

Speaker 8 (06:56):
You said a man is not a necessity. A man's
a luxury like dessert.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Yeah, man, it's absolutely not necessity.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Did you mean that to sound meaning better?

Speaker 8 (07:09):
Oh not at all. I adore dessert.

Speaker 5 (07:12):
I love men. I think men are the coolest, but
you don't really need them to live.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
So, you, guys, this week's where sex is going to
be a bit different.

Speaker 5 (07:23):
I just wanted to go through a few things that
are some facts about HIV and AIDS, because.

Speaker 1 (07:29):
While you or someone you know might already know.

Speaker 5 (07:33):
These things, it doesn't help to continue to share because
everybody doesn't know everything, right. So just a reminder, HIV
is not the same as AIDS. So like when Marcella
was telling us earlier about all the diagnosis that you
were giving of positive AIDS and they did not live
much longer. That's because HIV is the virus, and you

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really want to get tested so that you know that
you have it, that you can get treated before it
develops into AIDS. And now that we have more information,
more medication and just time has helped us with this,
it's much more likely that you can live a full life,
a long life.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Let's see what else. The tests are reliable.

Speaker 5 (08:18):
I don't know who's thinking that they're not, but they
are reliable. HIV cannot be cured, So even though people
might joke about like Magic Johnson and other people who
have had it for a long time and all of that,
you have to remember that you can get your levels
down to undetectable levels, but that does not mean that
you've been cured. There's no vaccine. But when you do

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hear about medications like PREP or PEP, that is something different.
Is not a vaccine. And we'll get into what exactly
that is later with these ladies. And then y'all go
ahead and wrap it up and make sure that you
are asking if people have been tested. You don't just
get it from men. Women can pass it along to
each other. There's other ways besides set. So whatever y'all

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are out there doing, please be responsible and just keep
it in mind. And fortunately, there's so many great organizations
no matter where you are that will offer free testing.
Even if you don't have insurance or anything. There's plenty
of places that are doing free testing. There's rapid testing,
and please get tested. Don't leave your life in the

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hands of somebody else being responsible, be responsible for yourself.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
And that's it for Weird Sex.

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Speaker 2 (11:39):
So I think a great way to start the conversation.
I didn't plan on it, but when you just said
there's several ways to contract HIV or AIDS, I'm sitting
here like, let's tell the people all the ways you
can get them. If it's not just sex, could you
guys give us some information on that.

Speaker 1 (11:52):
So the priority and not priority, but top of the
line is sex first, heterosexual sex, and then if you're
having same sex more with men. So if two men
are having sex, they can contract AGIV. It is very minimal. Now,
the numbers of individuals that will get that will test

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positive from blood. So if they get a blood transfusion,
you're no longer going to get HIV. That blood is
screened again. And being an injecting drug user, So if
you're an injecting drug user and you're sharing your needles.
Then you absolutely have the potential to either contract AGIV

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or give it to someone else. Babies are no longer
getting HIV when the moms pregnant and when they deliver.
As long as the mother is taking her medication, her
viral load is undetectable, and she's following everything that the
doctor needs her to do. She listens to the doctor,

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does what she needs to do. She will have a
baby and be able to have a HIV negative baby.

Speaker 2 (13:09):
What exactly does PREP do? That's the would that be the.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
Nope? Two different things. No, two different things. So the
first part is that I'm a woman that's pregnant and
I'm a HIV positive, but my partner is HIV negative,
and so we're having unprotected sex because my viral load

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is low, it's undetectable, and he is on PREP. So
as long as you take PREP, it's a prophylactus pill
that you would take on a daily basis, like a
birth control pill.

Speaker 5 (13:51):
I was just about to say that one of my
guy friends is on it and he calls it his
birth control. But you could think about it that way.

Speaker 2 (14:01):
If you are interacting with someone else who is already
positive and you are not.

Speaker 7 (14:05):
Or also if you don't even know, they're like if
you have you're dating and you're doing your thing, you
don't have to know if they have HIV, Like you
can take this pill and then you're like protected.

Speaker 2 (14:17):
Yes, you are one hundred percent protecting.

Speaker 1 (14:19):
Nothing is one hundred percent unless you're abstaining from sex. Yeah, however,
the numbers are great. It's almost ninety. Don't quote me,
but the numbers are greater than less. Yeah, it's a
great barrier. Is it expensive? So where we are relative?

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So where we are today with Aid Atlanta, if you
decide to take PREP, regardless on the ability to pay,
you can get PREP for free with Aid Atlanta. That
is really good.

Speaker 2 (14:57):
Yeah, it's really good. I was also going to ask
this health insurance prep.

Speaker 1 (15:00):
Health insurance does cover PREP?

Speaker 5 (15:02):
It depends on your insurance, right, No, Well, and because
I know some people who's it's it's covered, and then
I know other people who get it from organizations like yours,
and I just assume maybe their insurance doesn't cover enough
or but I don't know.

Speaker 2 (15:24):
And if you don't know, we don't. We can just know.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
It's so it's political right now, But as of right now,
AID Atlanta. If you come in and you want to
get on PREP and you test HIV negative, we don't
ask you about payment and you can get on PREP.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Oh, so there's no steps toget. You can just go
to AID Atlanta and be like, can I get on PREP?

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Once you test negative for HIV, then we will offer
you PREP. Once that happens, you'll come back every ninety
days to get tested for any sti's and to be
tested again for HIV. So there's a process. You get
on it, but every ninety days you need to come
back so you can get more prep.

Speaker 5 (16:07):
And then are all of those tests besides just the
HIV the SDI test, Are those.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
Free as well?

Speaker 2 (16:12):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Those are completely free.

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Y'all need to be heading down to Atlanta or find
other organizations that are close to.

Speaker 1 (16:19):
Wherever you live.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
Yeah, it's available Monday through Friday nine thirty to five
thirty and you can just walk in.

Speaker 1 (16:26):
Yes, no appointment, Ye have no appointment that's needed.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
How do you see do people take advantage of that
a lot? Like do people come in and like utilize
the resources or when you say so, we test.

Speaker 1 (16:37):
Over one hundred and fifty people a day.

Speaker 5 (16:40):
Oh wow, Yeah, I's good to know that the doors
are revolving.

Speaker 1 (16:45):
Yeah, absolutely coming. Yeah, but our numbers are still high,
so we still have work to do.

Speaker 2 (16:50):
Yeah, when people come in to get tested, are they nervous?
I've been to a Atlanta to get tested and I
was crying before I even got to test.

Speaker 1 (16:58):
I was just scared.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I was just scared. Do people are people in their
emotional are people in there like?

Speaker 1 (17:03):
Yeah? Absolutely absolutely, Even thirty years later with it being
a rapid test and you'll know in fifteen minutes if
you test positive for HIV, people are absolutely nervous. It's
still fearful and it's still I mean, it's scary. It's
absolutely scary. Even with all of the new medications and

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how we follow the science, it's still scary.

Speaker 2 (17:30):
It's very scary.

Speaker 7 (17:30):
And let's say you do get a positive result, we
usually have you will be assigned a case manitor or
someone that will help you take those next steps to
keep you in care.

Speaker 5 (17:40):
And so what are the next steps? So you go in,
you get your test, you find out it's positive.

Speaker 1 (17:47):
Then what happens so we're doing so once you test positive,
the counselor then depending on your psychosocial issues, that day
to get you in care within the next forty eight
to seventy two hours.

Speaker 2 (18:04):
You said, depending on your what social.

Speaker 1 (18:05):
Issue your psychosocialist ue. So depending on how you respond
to this positive test result is how we move forward.
So it's not a cookie cutter recipe in how we
deal with someone that may test positive. And so we would,
you know, see how you respond. We would bring a

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counselor in and then the person that tested you would
do an assessment and see which way to go. But
we absolutely are going to get all of your information
and make sure to the best of our ability to
be able to get you in care sooner rather than later.

Speaker 5 (18:46):
And then whenever y'all are doing these talks and moving
towards getting this positive person to care, is there a
conversation about who else you've been having sex with? And
how does it go with telling them that they need
to let other people know that they have now tested
because you don't get it out of thin air tested positive?

Speaker 1 (19:06):
How does that part go? So there is a part
where you, because it is a communicable disease, you have
to report it to DPH and then DPH is supposed
to follow your steps your sex track on who you've had.

Speaker 2 (19:24):
Sex with, So they are going to make the call.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yes, well they're supposed to make the call back in
the day. That's what we did, DPH. So I would
have to report that Jennifer tested positive, Jennifer Jones tested positive,
called DPH. DPH will call Jennifer and ask Jennifer who
were partners were and then they would inform all the

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Jennifer's partners anonymously that they need to be tested for HIV. So,
being here in Georgia for the last two years, I
don't do testing anymore, but it's very I want to say,
it's very similar to that.

Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, So they don't say when they were doing the calls.
More frequently they don't say, like, hey, they don't tell you.

Speaker 1 (20:13):
Who they came. So think about COVID and so when
you did COVID tracing and I tested positive for COVID,
who were you with in the last seventy two hours,
in the last week, when did your symptoms start? And
then we'd get those names and then we would call

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and say you've been exposed. But we could never say
that Paula exposed you. So the confidentiality that hippolaw was
hard good in place.

Speaker 5 (20:44):
I've even gotten text messages about COVID. Yeah, yeah, very convenient, Yes, yes,
because I do scream my calls, So yeah, text you
to let people know.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Because do you.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Imagine, could you imagine? Could you guys talk a little
bit about how if HIV does go untreated, how it
turns into AIDS.

Speaker 7 (21:06):
You want to well, I just know that it turns
into AIDS. And then like from what I know and
like from the stuff that I've read, if you start
to get a lot of just get really sick kind
of does it give you more like a flu like
symptoms and stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:24):
And then it gets so yeah, yes, So what we
wanted yep. Absolutely, And what we want to do is
we want to listen to our body, because our body
speaks to us, specifically women. So some of the symptoms
that can happen with women is that we get chronic
yeast infections, we get thrush in our mouths, we get

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very tired, we get very tired, flu like symptoms, and
so we want to pay attention to that. And once
you get tested, if you and you're losing weight and
you get pneumonia, they're called opportunistic infections. You get those

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things and then you test, you could test positive as
an aid diagnosis. So we really want to listen to
our bodies and so uast infections aren't normal. And if
you're getting a yuast infection every month, you know, we
need to pay attention to that. We're not getting well

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from the flu or from the coal. We want to
pay attention to.

Speaker 5 (22:33):
That because basically HIV is attacking your immune.

Speaker 1 (22:36):
System down, so that's why you get sick, yes.

Speaker 5 (22:40):
And then leaving it untreated, yes, absolutely, yes, yes, So
we just want to be real mindful, you know, of
when our body talks to us now currently And if
you guys don't know the exact number, that's fine, but
I know that there have been things that I've read
edward it'll say like there's this period where you could

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have it, you could have contracted it, but you'll get
your test and it's negative because whatever the levels are
that it's testing for, it's not there yet. What's that
time period?

Speaker 1 (23:13):
So it's not like it used to be. Okay, And
if you've had an exposure, if you had an exposure
today and you come in what's today, Wednesday, next, Wednesday,
seven days, those tests are really good. Those rapid tests
are really good to where they can detect the antibody

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of HIV. And when we're doing testing, we're going to
ask you when your last exposure was, and so you
come back in seven days, but you are telling me
that I believe that I have AHIV, but you test negative,
and have you come back in thirty days? But not
only just come back in thirty days. We're going to

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tell you that you need to do anything that you do,
you need to do it, say, because if you leave
out to leave out of the office on that Wednesday
and you tested negative and then you go out and
have sex, it's just you're going to continue to have
to keep testing. So but it used to be you

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have to come back every ninety days if you tested
negative but you had this exposure, and even if you
had symptoms, but you're not reacting yet, So it's it's
it's a much better process now.

Speaker 5 (24:29):
That was the time period I was thinking of, ninety days.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
I couldn't remember that was.

Speaker 5 (24:33):
I'm old, obviously, but it's good to know that you
can find out.

Speaker 1 (24:37):
Much sooner, much much sooner. Ninety days is a lot,
it was, it was, and then you have to wait
two weeks. Yeah, when the test first came out to
get your results. It was bad, you know.

Speaker 2 (24:51):
I remember when I was watching an episode of Being
Mary Jane and episode where she he was I think
she was dating the doctor. Was when she was dating
the doctor was the white guy and she she had
a at home tests.

Speaker 1 (25:06):
I don't remember that.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
You don't remember where she made him? He was like really,
She was like, yeah, you have to do you remember that.
This is the later the later seasons. I don't remember what,
but it was towards the end when she was no,
this was the white guy, remember she was. He was like,
remember she met him at the sex club. Remember I
think he was a doctor, but he was a white guy.

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He was the white guy that she dated. Anyway, she
had an at home test and she made him swab
are at home tests accurate?

Speaker 1 (25:35):
They are, but you want to always with any test
is to get confirmation.

Speaker 2 (25:41):
Yeah, go to a professional.

Speaker 1 (25:44):
It may not be, but you still got to go
get it tested.

Speaker 7 (25:49):
Yeah, and if you suspect that you may have been
exposed to it, there's always PEP PEP.

Speaker 1 (25:56):
So like PEP, you have a small window at seventy
two hours, so you can come and.

Speaker 5 (26:01):
Get that medici that one's like a like a morning
after kind of yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 (26:08):
Yes, yeah, and it works. It does work.

Speaker 5 (26:11):
Now, remember nothing is one hundred, but it does.

Speaker 1 (26:17):
It does minimize you testing positive for HIV.

Speaker 2 (26:23):
Okay, now I have a question back up really quick.
You spoke about this in word sexond Marcella. You have
brought it up again. How you can become undetectable. What
exactly does that mean and why does it matter? And
I say that because okay, you're undetectable. Does undetectable mean
you cannot pass it along anymore? But you still have

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the virus?

Speaker 1 (26:45):
Yes, so mhm undetectable if I am HIV positive and
I take my medication the way I need to take
it the way me and my doctor have come up

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with this plan. When I go for my checkups and
they take my blood work. The medication is so powerful now,
the science is so amazing that it reduces the amount
of HIV that is in your body. So if you're undetectable,

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when you're having sex with someone else, you won't get
they won't get HIV.

Speaker 2 (27:36):
But let me ask you this. Do you think that
if someone is undetectable and they are having sex with
people who aren't positive, Should you still like let someone know.

Speaker 1 (27:44):
That you are living with HIV?

Speaker 5 (27:48):
Yeah, I say yes, you should tell me because I
have a follow up question too.

Speaker 2 (27:54):
Like would that be an I lead? You know how,
because if you're just out and you know you have
as you've been tested, y'all have a record of it,
and someone's like you knew you had AIDS and you're
still sleeping with you go to jail.

Speaker 1 (28:05):
For here in Georgia you can yah. Here in Georgia
you can. It's a it's it's a thin line. It's
a thin line. As an individual, I want you to
tell me, but I'm also gonna ask you. So then

(28:27):
that comes that power of taking care of my temple.
And so if you don't tell me and you're really undetectable,
then it was my fault if I didn't find out
that you were positive, if I decided to let you
touch me. Now I have another question about the undetectable thing.

Speaker 5 (28:48):
So I appreciate that you're emphasizing how you've got to
follow the doctor's orders, you've got to take the medicine
and do everything.

Speaker 1 (28:55):
But is it safe to say that it's very.

Speaker 5 (28:57):
Much like birth control, where if you're not taking it
exactly as prescribed is going to ink with birth control,
you don't take it at the exact same time every
single day, don't miss a dose, then you're like, what,
ninety eight percent unlikely to get pregnant? Is it the
same with the HIV medication. Where as long as you're

(29:20):
taking it exactly as prescribed, you're good. But when you
miss doses, when you're not taking your medication, that viral
low could go up, you might get back to a
detectable level, and you could still pass it on to someone.

Speaker 1 (29:33):
Absolutely, And so that's with anything. So I take a
high blood pressure medication and my pressure is really good,
and then I decide I don't want to take it.
I mean, I guess that's because it's not communicable. But
the bottom line is that that HIV medication that you're taking,
you could still develop a resistance to it. So that's

(29:56):
why it's really important to have this amazing relationship with
your doctor and to always tell the truth because we
have people that are undetectable, but they're still getting high,
or they get high, or they abuse alcohol. You know,
they're just not taking care of themselves. So there's a
number of factors that can come into place where the
medication is not working as effective as it could if

(30:20):
you were taking care of your temple.

Speaker 5 (30:23):
All the more reason to make sure you get your PREP,
because art are you ever going to be able to
watch somebody every second of the day? And if you
are well, when are y'all gonna even have sex?

Speaker 2 (30:35):
That makes me have questions about PREP. If you are
not taking care of your temple and you're taking PREP,
is it going to be one hundred percent? Nothing is
I mean not one hundred percent, But is it still
going to have a high success rate? If you are
drinking a lot, if you are getting high, does it
still is it still effective?

Speaker 1 (30:52):
So I can't answer that one. PREP is new on
the newer side, and that's not my ministry.

Speaker 2 (30:58):
I have to do some Google, and you know, even
sometimes with the plan B if you are I didn't
know this for a long time, if you are over
a certain weight, it won't work.

Speaker 7 (31:08):
I saw TikTok that recently shared something like that, and
I didn't wait about that.

Speaker 2 (31:12):
Yeah, the weight's not high and so while it typically
you know, normally works, not saying that I.

Speaker 7 (31:17):
Know, but.

Speaker 2 (31:20):
When I read that, I was like, oh, Wow.

Speaker 5 (31:21):
Yeah, there's a lot of things like that, even like
birth control, like smoking and other things that have taken
antibiotics while you're on your birth control.

Speaker 1 (31:31):
I got a sister like that because wow, yeah, and
that happens.

Speaker 5 (31:38):
And so I think that it's so great that there's
PEP and PREP out there, so that whether you have
it or not, there's medication for everybody to help bring
it down. And I also appreciate that there's less is
still there, but less stigma surround it. People are more
likely I see commercials all the time.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
I've been seeing them a lot on Hulu, a bunch
of president and showing us now because it wasn't showing
us it was all just yeah, white gay men, and
so kudos. Yeah, the vive into some of the other
pharmaceutical companies.

Speaker 7 (32:18):
So yeah. And if Google gets like too much, because
there's so much information out there about PREP and like
all those testings, you can also go to the Georgia
HI V S t I Infull Line, which we house
at Aight Atlanta. It's an anonymous infull line that you
can ask any questions or if we don't have a
specific resource for you, they will send you to another place.

(32:38):
Do you get to speak to a live person?

Speaker 1 (32:40):
Yeses no Ai no no no. Undetectable equals untransmittable. Okay,
it came to you.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Well cut that whole other part of yah.

Speaker 1 (32:54):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
So before we started recording, you were talking about women,
black and brown women specifically and HIV AIDS and how
there was a stand almost for women to take their
power back and showing people ways how you can live
a healthy lifestyle. You're still You're still a human being.
Can we talk about some of those ways that if
you are living with HIV AIDS as a woman, different

(33:19):
things that people can do to still feel like they
have a reason for life, a purpose cause you do,
but that can only imagine. Like you said, it's devastating
to get that news.

Speaker 7 (33:29):
Well, I feel my gosh, I just hit the mic.
I feel like especially that in Atlanta we focus on
like a well rounded service so when you get tested,
we also have supportive services like the Sisters with the
Voice program that helps women come together. They're at the
same table as Marshalla always says that everyone comes from

(33:50):
different walks of life. These women have college degrees and everything,
and that happens to them. It can happen to anybody.
So having a supportive service like that one helps them
navigate through.

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Receiving a positive diagnosis.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
But what does that navigation look like like? What is
actually happening? Are there mental health services I would imagine
you might need that, what does it look like?

Speaker 1 (34:13):
So specifically at eight Atlanta with the Sisters with a
Voice program, we do something now that's called status neutral.
So we have everybody sit at the table together, and
that means I'm HIV positive, but my sister over here
had some domestic violence issues and I did too, and

(34:34):
so the support becomes different and we are more alike
than not alike, and so we gather women together, and yes,
we do have the mental health component, but we also
what we're focusing on now is back in the day
when we was in the kitchen table with a tie

(34:56):
and big Mama, and we're doing those type of conference sations.
We're doing cookout conversations, and what happens in those conversations,
specifically in our community, is that big Mama's a girl.
What's going on with you right there? And so we're
doing some intergenerational conversations and the younger women are open

(35:22):
to that. So the mental health piece is coming organically,
and then the safety is coming organically because there's big
Mama with a college student and she's keeping it real
with them. And so what we found in studies is

(35:42):
that if we do storytelling, folks are listening because it's real.
You know, their stories are real. So the mental health
component is there, The case management services are there services
that they're so we have emergency services money available, not

(36:05):
a lot, but we do have money.

Speaker 7 (36:06):
It's all privately funded. So yeah, those are the members
of Emergency Assistants Fund. Because everything can affect a person
whether they take their medication. If they don't have money
for rent, they don't have money for food, transportation, they
can't get to their medical appointments. That's all factors that
will get in the way of sowing someone taking their medication.

(36:27):
So we have that program that helps them go to
their medical appointments, helps pay for the rents, utilities, their mortgage.
We just tried to remove different barriers that will keep
somebody from not taking their medication.

Speaker 1 (36:42):
Is this like a weekly gathering so specifically with Sisters
with the Voice, we met on an either biweekly or
a monthly basis, depending on what was going on in
the community depending on what we were celebrating. So it
really it really depends. But not only Sisters with a Voice.
There are a number of AIDS service organizations that have

(37:06):
women groups and so they are out there either via
online or in person, and so it's a nice community.
Well it's getting better, and it's getting better because we're
realizing that we're more alike than not alike, and so

(37:26):
like you don't know if I'm HIV positive, you don't
know if anybody is exactly, and that's where we're trying
to get to. And so you know how when you
go to the doctors like Kaiser, it's one stop shopping.
That's what we do at aid Atlanta. Yeah.

Speaker 5 (37:43):
I love not having to go to many places.

Speaker 1 (37:45):
Ye yeah, no, listen, all in one place. Absolutely, and
so it aated Atlanta. You can do that. You can
get your your medication, you can get your mental health
get you can get your physical done, you'll get your
testing done, you'll get your treatment. You know, you'll get everything,

(38:09):
and then you get love done.

Speaker 2 (38:11):
And that is so important. I was gonna say, like
the importance and the power in community no matter what
you're going through. If you just got diagnosed with cancer,
if you have lost a child. There's so many different
support groups for different things, and people don't realize like
there really is power in numbers, even in just the
energy of like uplifting you. Sometimes when you get sad,
even on a even if it's on a small scale

(38:31):
of not a disease, and you sit by yourself or
you're alone for a really long time, that doesn't really
help you. That almost makes it worse. So to know
that you guys are providing these these support groups for
women and I'm sure men, that's incredible.

Speaker 7 (38:44):
The Men's Engagement Network is another one that, Yeah, do
you find that.

Speaker 5 (38:48):
You'll get more participation in the community groups with the
women or the men.

Speaker 7 (38:54):
I have only been on the female side, Okay, so
I've only seen the sisters with the boys do the
great work that Marcella was doing a lot of innovative
work there. That's where I have my most experience with.

Speaker 5 (39:07):
And I asked because I know a lot of times
men may not be so forthcoming about their emotions and
needing help or wanting help or being vulnerable. So I'm
just curious about that how it works with them.

Speaker 1 (39:24):
So specifically at AID Atlanta, we have this amazing therapist
that is open and she does a group once a
month and we get a ton of men in to
do that whole mental health component. So that's one but
our men's health engagement, our Men's Network, they are going.

(39:48):
They're still doing street outreach, they do events, they do
community events, food countries. Yeah, they have created this amazing
partnership with power Ata. Oh and they do the food
pantry every Thursday. So we're meeting people where they are
in realizing after doing community needs assessments that you know,

(40:11):
food brings people together. Oh, you don't have no food,
will come over here and get some food. Not just
some food, but you won't get some good food. And
so it's working specifically in our community because you know,
whatever happened in our house day, in our house and
don't you talk about it. But folks now are specifically

(40:32):
at AID Atlanta, that's our hub. That's folks are coming
in there and they're getting the love, they're getting the resources,
and then they're growing. You know, we have a young lady,
she just turned forty, she's got a year in three
months clean off alcohol. She needed a hip replacement, got

(40:54):
the hip replacement, needed a place to live so she's
living with her men. She wanted to become independent, she
created an LLC and she's doing the thing. And so
there are some super stories that come out of having

(41:16):
a positive diagnosis with HIV. What would y'all say?

Speaker 5 (41:23):
Are still some myths misconceptions that you find still being perpetuated,
whether it be online or just in conversations or when
people are coming in that you think is really important
to let people know that's not true, that's not a
fact that or it fits into this bigger umbrella.

Speaker 7 (41:44):
Well, I think the first big one was the one
that you started the episode with, which is like the
difference between HIV and AIDS.

Speaker 1 (41:51):
I think that's the biggest one that I've seen.

Speaker 7 (41:54):
I think HIV and AIDS, that's not a gay disease,
like anybody can get it.

Speaker 1 (42:00):
So that's another misconception that I've absolutely And just because
I choose to be a sex worker does not mean
that I'm going to get HIV. And so, like Paula
said that it doesn't discriminate, it truly doesn't discriminate. The
girls from Spelman get HIV, the boys from Morehouse get HIV.

(42:23):
Everybody in Georgia tech ye. And that's just real talk
to where we just have to keep it one hundred
and though folks say, you know, times have changed, but
times really haven't changed. We just move it a little
faster because everybody's still having sex. It is having sex

(42:44):
forty five years ago, it was having sex one hundred
years ago. So they're not going to stop. So what
we do is that we have to be honest. We
have to slow down, and slowing down beings that we
put our phones down and we talked to our kid,
or we talk to that young person and just have
that conversation, sit at the table and have dinner together

(43:07):
and to talk about these things. I think that and
I'm going to age myself that it's important to be
able to sit at the table and have conversation. And
sometimes we as matured, seasoned adults, it is important for
us to tell our story to our baby girls and

(43:30):
our baby boys, and so then they have that knowledge.
Oh I don't need to do that, but we have
to be honest about it, because buttermilk in our mouths
the same wady does theirs. You know, and I did
the same thing you did, but and I need to
share it with you.

Speaker 2 (43:47):
So we got to be honest too. I think speaking
of being honest with episodes like this, whether you're here,
it on Cocktails or another show, and you hear people
talking about sexual health, I think it's so important And
I'm even talking to myself. When you're dating with some
day someone are thinking about having sex with them, how
often are you actually, like, even if you have the
conversation like, hey have you been when's last time you
got tested? Sometimes that's as deep as the conversation goes.

(44:09):
You don't know if somebody's lying, you don't and maybe
not they're not even lying. Maybe they just also have
sex with someone the day before and didn't get tested.
How often do you actually compare or go to aid
Atlanta together and we get tested. That doesn't happen that often.
And so I think that it's important because then you are,
like you said, I am taking my power and making

(44:30):
sure that I'm taking care of myself. So if something
does come back positive, okay, we can talk about it
and decide how we're going to deal with it from there.
But if you're just going through all of these sexual
partners with not ever having an in depth conversation about
your sexual health, you're putting yourself at risk. So I
think it's I hope that y'all maybe try it today.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
I also had another question that I just thought about
when you were talking about sitting at the kitchen table
and being able to have these conversations teenagers are having
sex and even younger when these younger people under eighteen
are like, I know I've had sex where I know
I've done whatever they've done. God forbid you're using drugs,
but I know that they do. They come to AID

(45:11):
Atlanta and they want to get tested. Can they get
tested even though they're not an adult?

Speaker 1 (45:15):
How does that work that? I'm not sure you can.
We can't they they dont have to.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
We're not.

Speaker 1 (45:24):
Yeah, there's they're supposed to give an ID, but we're
not gonna not test them. That is like private quiet,
but not quiet. We're gonna test. We have to. But
we also have a mobile testing unit. I've seen them. Yeah,
And so with the mobile testing unit, we've been strategic

(45:46):
in placing the van where there's a high incidence of
SDIS and we're giving them that information. If they want
to be tested, we're going to test them. It's not
because that's another thing I was just thinking about.

Speaker 5 (46:02):
Like if you have to have a real doctor's appointment
or something because you are under eighteen. Then I know
that people get scared to tell their parents and they
might be getting tested not even thinking about HIV, thinks
about getting pregnant, or thinking about another STI and it
could be that. And I just know, like being a teenager,

(46:23):
how things go.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
So there was some supportive services. They're specifically Lost and Found,
and they do outreach with young people and they have
they have some really good programs set up for our
young people. And so it does happen. It does happen.

Speaker 7 (46:50):
Yeah, And those mobile testing units they're powered by AHEF,
which is our Healthcare Foundation.

Speaker 1 (46:57):
They have those around.

Speaker 7 (46:58):
They also have a couple of thrift stores that also
have testing inside those strift stores.

Speaker 1 (47:03):
One of them is in little five points right. It's
called I'm not sure if it's there, but it's called
out so it's well, this one is in midtown, but the.

Speaker 2 (47:15):
Gardens out of the closet that I've seen, it's on
not Preshure Bridge.

Speaker 1 (47:23):
No, that's further So this is right in midtown. It
is on I think it's picture.

Speaker 2 (47:29):
So is it just like a little room that you
go in in.

Speaker 1 (47:31):
The store world, it's a whole store, it's a whole pharmacy.

Speaker 2 (47:35):
It is.

Speaker 1 (47:36):
They're actually, I think, putting a mental health component in
there and some other things. If you go shopping and
then while you're shopping, you can go get your test
raid JAV.

Speaker 5 (47:50):
Because I know people get nervous to walk into certain
buildings and I feel like everybody's staring at them. So
from the outside it looks like a thrip shot.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
And it's a bomb. A great selection. Got a pair
of six hundred dollars boots from my husband for ten dollars. Oh,
not north from Rack from North from. I don't remember
the name of the designer, but I was like, ooh,
you like this, what a steal? No, yeah, look at that, Yeah,

(48:20):
out of the closet. And that's we have them in California, Florida.
We have them all up the south southwest, southeast coast.

Speaker 5 (48:30):
I make sure that I put some links to some
different resources, and I'm sure they have them listed on
that ad Atlanta website.

Speaker 1 (48:38):
So I don't know why I said that funny.

Speaker 5 (48:40):
Website, so that you guys can check out any of
those things. And then what about people who are looking
to volunteer their time and help.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
We always need those. I would love to volunteer.

Speaker 5 (48:53):
I think it is so important this kind of stuff.
This is something that resonates with me. And just knowing
that people still don't know or the stigma that still
surrounds it, I'd love to know and for y'all to share,
like how people can find out about opportunities, whether they're
one off or something more long term.

Speaker 1 (49:16):
So we have both, Okay, we have both. We have
some activations that are coming up sooner rather than later.
We have the golf tournament, we have you know.

Speaker 2 (49:27):
When it is.

Speaker 4 (49:30):
Time.

Speaker 7 (49:30):
Yeah, it's a lot of these are like spring, summertime.
We have islanda Pride. We have Pride to run. We
have so many events.

Speaker 1 (49:40):
Walk and then we do fundraisers at LIPS so we
do the drag shows and those are amazing. Those are
my favorite events. Yeah. Yeah, those ladies are so talented.
So what we can do is you can either go
to our website at Atlanta dot org, forward slash volunteer

(50:05):
and I can give you my card and information. You
can call me let me know what type of volunteer
work you want to do, and I absolutely will call
you because I would be your key person.

Speaker 2 (50:16):
Okay, yay, thank you.

Speaker 1 (50:20):
So many of the holiday party. Yeah, we have a
pediatric party and so it's specifically for the little people
that whose parents, grandparents, caregivers are living with HIV. So
we help them with gifts and then we give them
this really nice party. Yeah it is. It's like a
little family reunion. We do a backpack event in the

(50:42):
West End and it's like four hundred young people that
come in and we give out backpacks, we give out food,
we have live music. It's nice.

Speaker 2 (50:55):
That's incredible. Yeah, I love the aid. Atlanta is out
in the community.

Speaker 1 (50:59):
Yeah we are. Yeah, we in them streets.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Girl, be out somebody on the streets. So bad, y'all.
We are going to take a break and move on
to Indecisive Diana, and when we come back, these ladies
are going to help us give you some advice.

Speaker 1 (51:16):
Would you stop.

Speaker 2 (51:16):
Thinking about what everyone wants?

Speaker 1 (51:18):
Stop thinking about what I want?

Speaker 2 (51:20):
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (51:20):
What your parents want?

Speaker 8 (51:22):
What do you want?

Speaker 1 (51:23):
What do you want?

Speaker 2 (51:24):
It's not aim what do you want?

Speaker 1 (51:28):
What do you want?

Speaker 3 (51:34):
Hey, ladies, it's me Dian And this week's state idea
is figure in your girls. This is what I want
you to do. I saw this on Instagram and I
thought it was just the cutest IDEA go to trade
of Joe's. They always have flowers on sale, loose stem flowers,
Grab a bunch, grab a variety, get your girls together
like two or five and have a bouquet making class.

(51:56):
Have some cocktails, have some champagne, and make your own flowers.

Speaker 9 (52:00):
Okay, bye, Okay you.

Speaker 5 (52:32):
Guys, and we are back from Indecisive Diana and it's
time for advice and staying on the theme. I just
wanted you guys to share some more resources. I know
we've said your website, reiterate where people can go to
get tested or find out more information, whether it's your
website or others, and any preventative measurement measures outside.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
Of wrapping it up and abstinence to prevent your chances
of contracting HIV.

Speaker 7 (53:03):
So if you go to our website at Atlanta dot
org order slash testing, you'll get all the information about
what times we are open and what times you can
go and get tested. What tests we offer for the
STIs is also on there. If you if aid Atlanta
the midtime location is too far for you, you can
also call that info line that I mentioned. Their phone

(53:25):
number is eight hundred five y five one twenty seven
twenty eight, totally anonymous. Someone will always answer your call.
When I tell you, those guys work hard, they like
they never leave the table. They if you let them
know what's going on, they will tell you what other
resources are closer to you that you can go to.

Speaker 5 (53:43):
Yes, and then anything to say about any extra stuff. So,
I know we talked about prep and PEP. Is there
anything else that we might have.

Speaker 1 (53:50):
Missed today that's out there to help? We're sex positive, right,
and so the reality of it is is that we
meet people where they are and so there's no judgment.
The bottom line is that we want you to be
aware of the choices and decisions you're making and we

(54:15):
can help you navigate. You know, we have some amazing
people that we work with and there is no again,
and it's important to talk about no judgment because we
say ex positive. We got some stuff that be going
on up with it with our T shirts and you know,
we have condoms all over the place, and so if
you need to talk, you can call the helpline or

(54:37):
you can come in and someone will be willing to
speak with you, so you just got to ask.

Speaker 7 (54:46):
They can also dm us on Instagram and Facebook, and
if I can't find somewhere to help them, I will
direct them towards somebody that will give them that help.

Speaker 1 (54:56):
And that's helpful too, because I know a lot of
people do not like picking up the phone.

Speaker 7 (55:01):
That's me too, Yes, me too, So if you if
they don't like talking on the phone, they can just
dm us.

Speaker 5 (55:07):
Easy enough, right, Well, I hope you guys use these
resources that we're shared here today, whether you're in Atlanta
or somewhere else. Please make sure you're getting tested regularly. Yeah,
get tested, know your status so that you can know
what to do with your life and have some control
over it.

Speaker 1 (55:26):
Okay, Well, that's it for advice.

Speaker 5 (55:28):
Now, if you guys do have a question about anything
that you want our help on for future episode, email
it to us advice at cocktailspod dot com and make
sure you put advice in the subject line. All right,
and now it's time to move on to the cocktails.

Speaker 8 (55:55):
But on me, Once upon a time, not long ago.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
I was.

Speaker 5 (56:11):
So I'm not sure if you have any stories, but
I know that you said that you've been working in
the industry for like thirty something years and you used
to do a lot of street outreach. Do you have
them to have any stories that you can share.

Speaker 1 (56:26):
Yeah, with regards to so, one of my favorite things
to do was to do street outreach. And in doing
street outreach, I outreached the folks that nobody wanted to
talk to. And again no judgment. And so I was
the lady that taught the street workers the prostitutes had

(56:51):
to cheek a condom.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
When you said that earlier, I was like, what, I've
never even heard of that.

Speaker 1 (56:56):
So when you cheeck a condom, if you are exchanging
sex for goods, and this was more so for men
for women, well it did matter. Are you tagging a condom?
Are you like literally in your cheek and your cheek
and your cheeking it and you can have a conversation.

(57:17):
This is when HIV was very high and so we
weren't sure what was going on. So we needed to
be able to have good barriers because people still needed
to exchange sex for goods. When you tell your condom
and then.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
You oh, and they don't even know.

Speaker 1 (57:34):
And so when they're doing fillatio, he didn't know because
normally when a man is getting you know that done,
he falls back, and that was the conversation that we like,
we had to keep a five thousand, you know, and
he falls back and then you put it on and

(57:54):
then when he comes, the condom just comes off, like
she'll do whatever she needed to do and the condom
will come up. So we did cheeking. We met when
I tell you that we met people wherever they were.
We went into the shooting galleries and we would do
the little bleach kits. I don't know if you're familiar
with it. So we'd have these little plastic bags like

(58:17):
this big, and we would have a little bottle of bleach,
a cotton ball, and an alcohol swap and before they
would shoot up because a lot of people were sharing
needles and that was one of the highest ways of
getting HIV, and they would clean and a little cap

(58:40):
so to put the alcohol in the cap and they
would clean their their needles with the bleach and with
the water and then they would do their little alcohol
swap and that reduced their risk of contracting HIV. So
those were some of the hardcore things that we did.

(59:01):
We also had speakers, had a speaker's bureau, and with
the speakers Bureau. We would have people, young people, middle
aged people that were living with HIV and they would
tell their story. We would go into the schools and
tell the story about what it meant to live with HIV,
and those stories were profound. I grew up in Massachusetts

(59:27):
and there was one high school that had a high
incident rate of heroin in the high school, and so
the numbers for HIV was high. And so we had
young people that were tested positive and turned their whole
life around and they became speakers and ambassadors in living

(59:47):
and thriving with HIV.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (59:50):
Yeah, And then I'll close with this. I got some
maturity on me right. And I was living in New
York in the a es y'all know. Elin Harris, the
author Yes loves that list said it is okay for yourself.

Speaker 5 (01:00:12):
We're just being serious because we cut up.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
Sometimes, que I don't want to cut.

Speaker 1 (01:00:19):
So I was living in New York, y'all, and I
worked in Midtown and I worked Wall Street, and I
started reading Elin Harris, and I'm gonna just keep it
five thousand. You get some pussy, you get you. I
was free, and I wasn't. I was just a hope.

(01:00:43):
I wasn't a hope.

Speaker 2 (01:00:44):
I was sex positives back in the day.

Speaker 1 (01:00:48):
Yeah, sex positive. And when I started reading Harris, I
locked it up because it was enough for me to
story telling mm hmm, for me to change my behavior.

Speaker 2 (01:01:05):
Books.

Speaker 1 (01:01:06):
Yeah, reading those books. And then I was in the
hotel industry and people started dropping death and I was like,
and then reading his books from from Aids.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Harris talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:01:21):
They're like very sexual books like Zay novels or Symbolar,
but he Elin Harris was a man that was living
with HIV. He was a gay man, and he talked
about men on the down low. You were like, I'm
not very scandalous. Yes, beautiful men in the books like
they were. I was like, oh, I'll probably.

Speaker 5 (01:01:44):
Like looking at the covers.

Speaker 1 (01:01:48):
Yeah, check him out. Great books to read, and it's
an easy not an easy some of them. I cried
in a couple of them because it was sad. But
on the real tip, storytelling works because for me, like
I said, I've lived in New York, living my whole
best life and trying all the flavors. And once I

(01:02:11):
read his book and then working in the hotel industry,
I changed my ways. So, especially during those times, so
you just don't know. Yeah, and you didn't Yeah, we
didn't know. We didn't know. And so with us not knowing,
without with me not knowing, that's what I ended up.
I changed my behavior.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
You never know is going to help somebody, You just
never know. Thank you, ladies so much for taking the
time out of your days to come and help us
educate our audience. We appreciate it. If you would like
to let everybody know where they can find the AID
Atlanta Instagram, please let them know.

Speaker 1 (01:02:48):
Now it's just Instagram.

Speaker 7 (01:02:55):
Oh my goodness, where is it?

Speaker 2 (01:03:00):
It is?

Speaker 7 (01:03:03):
Yep, just aid Atlanta, unders Aid Underscore Atlanta, and then
that will pop up right there, and then AID not AIDS, Yes,
AID Underscore Atlanta, and then Facebook's AID Atlanta official homepage.

Speaker 2 (01:03:18):
Okay, well, anything else y'all want to leave the audience with.

Speaker 1 (01:03:21):
I want to say thank you for doing this, having
this platform. I wasn't sure what we were going to
get into today, and I was a little nervous.

Speaker 4 (01:03:28):
I was.

Speaker 1 (01:03:31):
I was a little trembling a little bit, and I
like speaking. I don't have a problem speaking, but I
wasn't sure which you know direction. Y'all are amazing, So
thank you accessible. Yeah, and thank you for including us
and doing this education because again, specifically women in the

(01:03:53):
Atlanta area, we're still getting HIV at disproportionate rates. So
thank you, thank you, We appreciate it.

Speaker 5 (01:04:01):
Yeah, and thank you guys so much for tuning in
this week. I hope that we were able to give
you some information that you can use. Make sure that
again you check the description box for everything that we
may have mentioned in the episode today, and make sure
you're also following us on Instagram.

Speaker 1 (01:04:17):
We're at Cocktails Podcast. I'm at Kiki said.

Speaker 2 (01:04:20):
So I'm at Coffee band.

Speaker 5 (01:04:22):
And until next week, you guys, goodbye,

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