September 16, 2024 • 9 mins
When is having too many credentials too many? Listen I'm as I share my perspective on holding or pursuing too many coding credentials. What's really the issue?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of the Coding Break.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So today's Coding Break topic or Coding Break conversation, I
want to talk about credentials. Is it too many? Or
when is it too many? And should we get all
of these credentials? So I was having a conversation with
another leader and per the conversation, it was suggested that
(00:28):
this particular leader secure additional credentials in order to remain
in the leadership role. So the leader asked my thoughts
on it, and so, of course, if you know me,
I don't believe in having a bunch of credentials, especially
coding credentials that you're not using just for the sake
of saying you have them right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So I shared with.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This individual that it is not necessarily to have a
bunch of colding credentials, especially if one if you're not
interested in getting them right. It's not something you us
desire to do as far as the specialty or whatever
that particular credential is lies within or the area. And
also I informed this individual that I know many of
(01:16):
leaders with a lot of leadership or credentials that aren't
leadership material. And then I also know someone with just
a high school diploma, who's great at being a leader?
So it really depends on where you lie within those
two spectrums. But I want to dig further into coding credentials.
How many is needed and how many is too much?
(01:37):
So in back home I said maybe twenty eighteen twenty nineteen,
I wrote a blog post about overdoing it with the credentials,
and I was saying, sometimes we put the cart before
the horse, as in, we get a credential, and we
get another credential, and we get another credential, and we
have yet to have practice or any type of form
of experience in that particular area that we're getting our
(02:00):
code and creditional And not to say that you won't
get in the future, but it's to say that you're
getting it and you have no idea why you're getting
You're just getting it just so you can stand out whatever.
So I you know, fast forward to LinkedIn. Now, LinkedIn
has changed over years. I've been on LinkedIn for a
very very long time. I mean I'm not on there
(02:22):
like strolling or whatever, but it has changed a lot.
I call it the Facebook or the Instagram of business professionals. Right,
So I notice that every other day someone or someone's
are constantly getting credentials, And I was like, why are
(02:44):
they getting all of these credentials? You know, because the
person is very good at what they do, They are
very professional, So why are they getting all these credentials?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Right? And so.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Which to this, Like again back to the point of
the conversation I'm having with this female leader, like, you
don't have to get all of these credentials.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Are you getting it because you're trying to stand out
for an employer?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Are you getting it because you genuinely want to pursue
work in that particular area.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I'm not saying because I don't know everybody that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm connected with on LinkedIn, or even those I'm not
connected with on LinkedIn. I guess I'm speaking because I
know me, and I know my past experience, and I
know my future. I'm assuming my future experience, right. I
don't do things by chance. So for example, yes, I
(03:42):
have many I have at least three coding about four
coding credentials, and then I have a few degrees, right,
but they all work together, and I have experience in
all of those areas.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But there are some.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Will get a certification because they can't find employment with
another certification. So they get another certification and hopes that
they will find employment. But then if they don't find
employment and that with that particular certification, they pursue another
(04:20):
certification and so on and so on.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So it's a cycle of repetitiveness.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Not only are it seems like you're patting your resume,
but I'm thinking that of it from a cost perspective
and time perspective. All the CEOs you're gonna have to
obtain and all the money you're gonna have to speak out,
let me speak out, keep kick out in order to
maintain those credentials. I have credentials that I have to
(04:48):
get and I have to pay money for that, right
and every years I'm not getting any more credential. I
am not, you know, because I'm from the school like
I can show you better than I can tell you
in a sense of I can do the work and
then you can just give me the credincial because I've
(05:09):
proven that I can do the work. Well, first it's
let me get the credential and then I'll do the work,
because sometimes that don't work, right, and sometimes I don't work, and.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, so I just feel like.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Sometimes again we get credentials because we want to appear
to be outstanding, We want to feel validated, we want
to feel important. And you don't have to do that because.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You are enough.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
If you are already important, you are already validated. You
just have to take the time to reflect on where
you are, where you're going.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
As it relates to your career path. You don't have
to do.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
All these things. You don't have to do what you
see other people doing.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know are different and unique from the next person.
You can do what you do. You can do what you.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do and be fine. But I think because we're not
taking the time to reflect on where we are, where
we where we where we came from, and we're truly
grateful for our journey.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think we're so busy focusing on.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Other people's profiles to see where they are and what
their journey is looking like. And we want that, and
there's nothing wrong with being inspired, but don't let it
consume you to the point that you think that you're
not important enough.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Right, you are important.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
As far as like the credentials that you should get,
I would say, get through credentials.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That are really and generally required to do the work.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So, for example, If you want to become a colder,
right or professional colder, all.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You need is a CPC to do the job, right CPC.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
If you want to become a biller and it is
required of you to have a certification, perhaps by your employer,
get the certification, certification and billing. And here's another thing too.
If it is a requirement of your employer, ask your
employer how much time will they allow for you to
(07:33):
get it? And also ask your employer, and this is
very important, are they going to pay for it? Ask
your employer are they going to pay for it? Because
if they're not going to pay for it, and it's
not something that you are genuinely interested in pursuing and
you're only pursuing it because it is a requirement for employment,
(07:56):
I feel like they should pay for it because it's
like you go on for example, you go on a date. Right,
if someone invites you on a date, I mean, you're
gonna take your money, but I think they should pay
because they invited you, right, Yeah, So the same with
them with the credentials and employer an employer, if the
(08:16):
employer is requiring you to pursue a credential and you're
already employed there, And let me put that in. If
you're already employed there and you're doing a great job
and they just want you.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
To get a credential just because they want.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You to get a credential, and there was it wasn't
something that you genuinely desire to get on your own,
because I feel like if you desired to get on
your own, you would have gotten it already. Then they
should be responsible for paying for it. Yeah, they should
be responsible for paying for it. They should be responsible
for your your continuing education like fees, your membership fees,
(08:55):
all all of that, you know, or they at least
should be all from up some continuing education credits because
you pursue that for them. So I say all that,
stop overdoing it in the certifications. And I know this
is like a nail in my coffin as a coding
(09:18):
coach or coding instructor, as a coding business or entrepreneur
to say this, get the credentials that are specific to
what you need and not because you want to look
outstanding that you want to look important. Remember, you are
already important. You're already outstanding, and you haven't. A credential
(09:40):
doesn't make you any more important or any less of
importance to yourself or to any other person. So that's
all that I have for this coding break. So until
next time, cold on
Hello, and welcome back to another episode of the Coding Break.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So today's Coding Break topic or Coding Break conversation, I
want to talk about credentials. Is it too many? Or
when is it too many? And should we get all
of these credentials? So I was having a conversation with
another leader and per the conversation, it was suggested that
(00:28):
this particular leader secure additional credentials in order to remain
in the leadership role. So the leader asked my thoughts
on it, and so, of course, if you know me,
I don't believe in having a bunch of credentials, especially
coding credentials that you're not using just for the sake
of saying you have them right.
Speaker 1 (00:49):
So I shared with.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
This individual that it is not necessarily to have a
bunch of colding credentials, especially if one if you're not
interested in getting them right. It's not something you us
desire to do as far as the specialty or whatever
that particular credential is lies within or the area. And
also I informed this individual that I know many of
(01:16):
leaders with a lot of leadership or credentials that aren't
leadership material. And then I also know someone with just
a high school diploma, who's great at being a leader?
So it really depends on where you lie within those
two spectrums. But I want to dig further into coding credentials.
How many is needed and how many is too much?
(01:37):
So in back home I said maybe twenty eighteen twenty nineteen,
I wrote a blog post about overdoing it with the credentials,
and I was saying, sometimes we put the cart before
the horse, as in, we get a credential, and we
get another credential, and we get another credential, and we
have yet to have practice or any type of form
of experience in that particular area that we're getting our
(02:00):
code and creditional And not to say that you won't
get in the future, but it's to say that you're
getting it and you have no idea why you're getting
You're just getting it just so you can stand out whatever.
So I you know, fast forward to LinkedIn. Now, LinkedIn
has changed over years. I've been on LinkedIn for a
very very long time. I mean I'm not on there
(02:22):
like strolling or whatever, but it has changed a lot.
I call it the Facebook or the Instagram of business professionals. Right,
So I notice that every other day someone or someone's
are constantly getting credentials, And I was like, why are
(02:44):
they getting all of these credentials? You know, because the
person is very good at what they do, They are
very professional, So why are they getting all these credentials?
Speaker 1 (02:54):
Right? And so.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Which to this, Like again back to the point of
the conversation I'm having with this female leader, like, you
don't have to get all of these credentials.
Speaker 1 (03:08):
Are you getting it because you're trying to stand out
for an employer?
Speaker 2 (03:11):
Are you getting it because you genuinely want to pursue
work in that particular area.
Speaker 1 (03:18):
And I'm not saying because I don't know everybody that.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I'm connected with on LinkedIn, or even those I'm not
connected with on LinkedIn. I guess I'm speaking because I
know me, and I know my past experience, and I
know my future. I'm assuming my future experience, right. I
don't do things by chance. So for example, yes, I
(03:42):
have many I have at least three coding about four
coding credentials, and then I have a few degrees, right,
but they all work together, and I have experience in
all of those areas.
Speaker 1 (03:59):
But there are some.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
Will get a certification because they can't find employment with
another certification. So they get another certification and hopes that
they will find employment. But then if they don't find
employment and that with that particular certification, they pursue another
(04:20):
certification and so on and so on.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
So it's a cycle of repetitiveness.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
Not only are it seems like you're patting your resume,
but I'm thinking that of it from a cost perspective
and time perspective. All the CEOs you're gonna have to
obtain and all the money you're gonna have to speak out,
let me speak out, keep kick out in order to
maintain those credentials. I have credentials that I have to
(04:48):
get and I have to pay money for that, right
and every years I'm not getting any more credential. I
am not, you know, because I'm from the school like
I can show you better than I can tell you
in a sense of I can do the work and
then you can just give me the credincial because I've
(05:09):
proven that I can do the work. Well, first it's
let me get the credential and then I'll do the work,
because sometimes that don't work, right, and sometimes I don't work, and.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Yeah, so I just feel like.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Sometimes again we get credentials because we want to appear
to be outstanding, We want to feel validated, we want
to feel important. And you don't have to do that because.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
You are enough.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
If you are already important, you are already validated. You
just have to take the time to reflect on where
you are, where you're going.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
As it relates to your career path. You don't have
to do.
Speaker 2 (05:54):
All these things. You don't have to do what you
see other people doing.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
You know are different and unique from the next person.
You can do what you do. You can do what you.
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Do and be fine. But I think because we're not
taking the time to reflect on where we are, where
we where we where we came from, and we're truly
grateful for our journey.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think we're so busy focusing on.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Other people's profiles to see where they are and what
their journey is looking like. And we want that, and
there's nothing wrong with being inspired, but don't let it
consume you to the point that you think that you're
not important enough.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Right, you are important.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
As far as like the credentials that you should get,
I would say, get through credentials.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
That are really and generally required to do the work.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
So, for example, If you want to become a colder,
right or professional colder, all.
Speaker 1 (07:04):
You need is a CPC to do the job, right CPC.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
If you want to become a biller and it is
required of you to have a certification, perhaps by your employer,
get the certification, certification and billing. And here's another thing too.
If it is a requirement of your employer, ask your
employer how much time will they allow for you to
(07:33):
get it? And also ask your employer, and this is
very important, are they going to pay for it? Ask
your employer are they going to pay for it? Because
if they're not going to pay for it, and it's
not something that you are genuinely interested in pursuing and
you're only pursuing it because it is a requirement for employment,
(07:56):
I feel like they should pay for it because it's
like you go on for example, you go on a date. Right,
if someone invites you on a date, I mean, you're
gonna take your money, but I think they should pay
because they invited you, right, Yeah, So the same with
them with the credentials and employer an employer, if the
(08:16):
employer is requiring you to pursue a credential and you're
already employed there, And let me put that in. If
you're already employed there and you're doing a great job
and they just want you.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
To get a credential just because they want.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
You to get a credential, and there was it wasn't
something that you genuinely desire to get on your own,
because I feel like if you desired to get on
your own, you would have gotten it already. Then they
should be responsible for paying for it. Yeah, they should
be responsible for paying for it. They should be responsible
for your your continuing education like fees, your membership fees,
(08:55):
all all of that, you know, or they at least
should be all from up some continuing education credits because
you pursue that for them. So I say all that,
stop overdoing it in the certifications. And I know this
is like a nail in my coffin as a coding
(09:18):
coach or coding instructor, as a coding business or entrepreneur
to say this, get the credentials that are specific to
what you need and not because you want to look
outstanding that you want to look important. Remember, you are
already important. You're already outstanding, and you haven't. A credential
(09:40):
doesn't make you any more important or any less of
importance to yourself or to any other person. So that's
all that I have for this coding break. So until
next time, cold on
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