December 5, 2024 • 63 mins
What happens to an individual after they have a UFO encounter? Some report PTSD, lost time, or inspiration! Author, Mary Grace, shares about her own experiences, her worldview, and her thinking on the UFO phenomena from a nuts-and-bolts and a mystical perspective. Mary Grace is a Spiritual Counselor, Parapsychologist, and founder of Gifts of Grace Ministry. She has a BA in psychology and sociology from the State University of New York at Geneseo, where she also studied parapsychology. She is a retired mental health professional, as well as a certified student medium from Plymouth Spiritualist Church in Rochester, NY, and from Lily Dale, NY. https://giftsofgraceministry.org/
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Speaker 1 (00:16):
Welcome back everyone to Coffee and the UFOs, two of
my favorite things. I am really really excited about a
guest tonight, Mary Grace, who I've had on the Mystic
Lounge podcast, and we're going to be talking about personal
UFO experiences and she has an interesting insight into these
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experiences from a somewhat mystical point of view, one could argue,
but also a nuts and bolts point of view, so
we'll talk about that in just the moment. As a
friends and reminder, if you support Coffee and UFOs, please
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(00:58):
your podcast, because all that really help helps the channel
will grow. So thank you so much everyone. Every week,
I'm looking forward to your comments tonight and your questions.
I see Alien Love, Hey Alien Love, Hey Maria. It's
gonna be a really good night tonight, So let's let's roll.
And as a friendly reminder, every Thursday night at eleven
pm Pacific time, Coffee and UFO's is on the ONEX Network.
(01:23):
It's also on the next Work on X Network at
two a m. Eastern time Fridays. That's morning, late morning
here on the on the east coast in the Hudson Valley,
the Hudson Valley, which is not far from where a
lot of these drone sightings have been taking place. In fact,
my one of my recent move on reports is due
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to a drone what we I think is a drone
sighting off of Long Island and it was a cluster
of drones out there. So you know the fact that
we have drones over bases in the UK, Germany Morristown
area in New Jersey. There was a report of auditory
drones in the Sussex County area of New Jersey, which
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is way up north compared to to Morristown and then
Long Island. So something bizarre is definitely going on. And
I am kind of curious because Mary is also a
fellow New Yorker, what her take on that is. So
we'll bring on our esteemed guests. Now, Mary, how are
you welcome back?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Hi Ellen.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm so excited to be here tonight, and I thank
you for giving me the opportunity to share my passion
for the paranormal. And I'm ready with my coffee and UFOs.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, I totally appreciate that that we both were prepared
with our coffee tonight, because not every guest is on
the same page as me, and I think that, you know,
we definitely have kind of a kindred spirit thing going on,
you know, with especially with your book that you wrote.
That was something that I really really enjoyed. And when
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you were on Mystic Lounge, you discussed more of like
spirituality and very personal stories there as well, which I appreciate.
You know, your vulnerability. We both have a background and
some shared I guess you could say trauma experiences. So
now you're here on coffee UFOs and we're talking about
(03:22):
the UFO phenomena, So can you give us a little
bit of a background on your interest began with UFOs
or UAP.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I think I was like seven seven years old
and a family outing coming returning from somewhere at night,
and we spotted some UFOs in the sky. My father
was in the Army Air Corps. He's also a pilot
and also a photography nut. So family of eight in
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the station wagon we pull over the side of the
road see some strange lights. We were all scared, the
kids were, and my dad gets out and sees that
opportunity and he takes pictures and at first there was
like one light in the sky, and then he's got
another picture where there's two lights and then three lights
and they were just they were a little bit elongated,
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but they were stationary. He got pictures of it, and
he sent it to the newspaper and the next day
they printed it in the local Rochester Democrat and Chronicle
put a big story in there about the marine family.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I mean, that's that's Do you think that was a
brave thing or was it just a second nature thing
for him to do.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Oh, it was like with the photography and everything, that
was second nature for him. Plus plus he was a
pilot and was interested in, you know, anything aviation try
and figure out what it was. He knew it wasn't
an airplane. And they had a big story in the
paper about it. And but then you know, they kind
of smissed it. They said, well, someone said it was
(05:02):
just weather balloons something like that, weather balloons, and like, okay,
but it was when you're seven years old, your you know,
family pictures and there was like pictures of the UFOs,
pictures of my dad, big story and that was kind
of you know, it was one of the kickoff things
to get interested in the UFOs.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, so that was an interest. Do you think that
that led to any sort of contact later on.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I imagine It's probably been with me all my life.
I've always been interested in UFOs and digging through my
research today, I found a story in nineteen seventy four
I would have been fourteen where Livingston County sheriffs chased
the UFO for over twelve miles, so that was still
going on in the area. There was some you know,
(05:57):
UFO sightings and yeah, so just always seeing the interest
in experience, reading books on it, and.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Maybe it just followed me. I'm not really sure.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, and really quickly I want I forgot to mention
the name of the book is Breakfast with the Bluebirds
Inspirational Short Stories, and you can find that at Gifts
of Graceministry dot org. I have to add here. Maria
Wilson says, good to see everyone tonight. I'm usually in
bed now, so sting up for you. Mary. Thanks Maria.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
My afternoon.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah. I mean, I definitely think there's something with the
interest in UFO, ufology and or paranormal where a lot
of the people are into that these subjects are night people.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah. Yeah. The other thing that I've I've learned.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
It's just a lot of most people that are probably
either contacts or did in the subject are probably and
I've learned this from different channelers and books I read,
are probably from another planet in a previous life and
they came here. In fact, one of the ones I
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was just reading this, I think it was Matt conn
talked about it was a lot of people are just
this is like their first incarnation on Earth.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And one of the things they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Now is star seeds, and they at the newborns now
are from other planets. So in a previous life or
whatever life, it all happens at once. So it's interesting,
and that's helping to with our our our ascension and
our shift from three D to five D, which you know,
(07:50):
I've been very interested in too. So you know, we're
kind of weeding out the negativity on our planet.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Is people died off?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I mean, I hope. So you know, I've always had
some doubt about the star seed theory, just because you know,
when I had first heard about that theory, we're talking
about like decades now, right, and I'm like waiting like,
where's the the obvious change at this point because a
lot of those uh, star seed people children what's the
(08:19):
other term?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I forget indigo?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Indigo? Yeah, and I was if that was like a
real thing, and there were there were really more in
emotionally intelligent, evolved in some way because of you know, the.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Supposed to be more gifted.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
A lot of other kids are more gifted psychically in
other ways.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And the other thing.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Is the preponderance of developmental disabilities, autism, things like that
that they're just you know, if you're coming from another
planet and you're trying to adjust to this three D
lower vibration, and kids today learn differently. They don't learn
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the way we did thirty or four years. They're a
lot more intelligent. So yeah, so that's interesting. That seems
to be part of it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, we have a comment from Lovely question she asks,
or he asks, I am interested to know if Mary
was in touch with an ET that helped her develop
advanced skills eg. Telepathy or does she know anyone who has.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
My first spiritually transformative experience, it was after death visitation
from my mom, and then I had a near death
experience and that kind of those two things kind of
you know, expanded my awareness.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
The NDE kind.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Of just blew apart my consciousness and I achieved What
occurred was this unity consciousness and knowing that we're all one,
not just knowing, but experiencing we're all one.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And I was actually doing research a couple of years
ago on the compared comparing nd experiences with alien content experiences,
and there's many, many similarities, and one of them is
the psychic ability. You know, psychic ability is expanded when
you have et contact or just even cee a UFO.
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It can be a life changing event for somebody, for anyone.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And now all of a.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Sudden, people are aware that there's other levels of reality.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So that's there can be a huge shift for people there.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Isn't And there is very interesting parallel between the alien
contact experience, psychedelic experiences, and mystical experiences. When you know,
we hear of stages of the past who connected with
you know, spirits or beings that are not of this earth,
(11:09):
we can, I think draw a direct parallel to the
sort of the messaging that we hear from the alleged
extraterrestrial The question is are they are people actually in
contact with extraterrestial meaning physical beings off planet on another
planet visiting here, or are we talking about something something
(11:32):
different and NHIA.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, well, of course, you know, alien abductions have been
happening for you know, we've been ket known about it
in at least last seventy years since raswell and everything
that's come out about the alien everything that we know
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about them. So and it's the one thing that never
talked about in a lot of the circles and government
and a lot of different things. You know, people are
always asking our et is real or is there a
proof of life on the Earth?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, just ask people.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Physically taken from their bedrooms and aboard ships, which are
millions of people, millions and millions millions of people who
don't question whether or not, you know, there's life on
other planets. It's in their bedrooms and it's in their
living rooms or their backyards.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right, so, there certainly is. But there are a couple different.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Types of contact and the preferred term really the abduction
is contact D. But there's also not only the physical,
but there's like the the spiritual and more where they
can take you just your consciousness or they just take
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your spirit where you're you know, you're left in your
bed or wherever that you are at the time, and
you're not physically taking, but you're spiritually you're consciously taken or.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Or they give you downloads.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, I mean, I would argue that it doesn't have
to be like a spirit in the way we imagine
a spirit being taken out of a body or the like,
because we do know that consciousness, or at least it's
measurable brain activity, extends beyond the physical flesh, right, And
so if we accept that consciousness can exist beyond outside
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of the body, then like you know, I've spoken to
other abductee contactees who felt like they're having an onboard experience,
but it's happening almost in their mind and not a dream, right,
but like this kind of in between place. And so
if consciousness is something that you could cant over time
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and space, then perhaps you can be given an experience
without actually like the soul leaving the body. Your consciousness
is still in your brain, but you're experiencing something else
elsewhere at the same time.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yes, it can be exactly. It was almost like virtual reality.
It's like you're doing a virtual reality, you know, it's
it's the matrix. Refer to the matrix and being in
different parts and different dimensions at the same time. And
I mean we we participate in different dimensions all the time.
We do it every night when we were sleeping, you know,
(14:38):
and our spirit goes somewhere. And it's I like that
you brought up about the dreams, because a lot of
contacts will say, well, I had a dream, and you know,
it wasn't really a dream because they remember details of
the et experience and they remember a lot of details
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and maybe they didn't go there physically, maybe it was
just consciously. But definitely, definitely there's a lot of physical
going on because people come back with marks, implants and
all that.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
So right, Uh, how do you feel about that? Do
you think that that extra trescurals are implanting things in
people for for whatever reason?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Definitely? But yeah, I've read different things about it. As
far as is it a tracking device, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
There much more than that.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You know, it's uh, it may even be mattering our
health in our entire systems and our body because they
can use it to check on us.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And I think that's what a lot of what goes on.
Is there just we're we're kind of there.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I don't like to say, you could say there experiment,
But I look at it the same way, like we
have kts and every time I take my cat to
the vet and I have to capture them. I got
one cat that doesn't even like to get picked up,
and I have to grab him when he's sleeping. I
(16:17):
just did this two days ago. Wait till he's sleeping,
make appointment for the morning, Grab him. He's struggling to
get out of my hands, Throw him in the cage.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
He howls all the way to the vat.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You know, but he's got some some sores in his mouth,
he's got some medical issues, and he's been three times
in this last month. And but if we look at
it like that, and I bring him home and you know,
an hour later he's maybe mad.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
At an hour later he's up in my lap. So
he's forgiven me. He loves me.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And we have the same type of relationship with aliens.
You know, we made this agreement before we're incarnated to
is it work with them? Or maybe that was part
of our mission and maybe we're not conscious of it
on one level, but on another level we are, so
(17:15):
I see things from both the physical and the spiritual
angle mind it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, I think that that's good because another way I
think about it is you have very serious minded intellect
scientists philosophers that do consider the possibility that we are
living in something like a simulation, and they're not hiding
in the shadows. They're perfectly comfortable out in the open
talking about that like it's okay, and it's not going
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to affect their reputation in any way. No one's going
to think they're crazy. So if that were to be true,
that there's some sort of something like a simulation, how
different is that really? Then the idea that we are
in some sort of demand reality where there's another dimension
beyond that where there might be other consciousness, or maybe
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our own consciousness is connected to that reality, you know
where it is. I don't think it's that much of
a leap. And yet, you know, the same people who
would entertain that we would live in a computer simulation
would cringe at the thought of this. And I think
that there's a similar parallel between people who are interested
(18:26):
in UFOs or UAP and they're very much in and
I tend to be more that way too, But they're
very much in like more than nuts and bolts, like
study the evidence, see what's out there, and let's prove
if this is a real thing, and people having actual experiences,
like contact experiences. And to my mind, if if you're
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open to the idea that aliens are coming here, how
how much of his leap really is that if aliens
are here, that they might be interacting, you know, clandestinely,
you know, with with us.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, they definitely are, and they're they're not unlike angels.
Angels and our loved ones and spirit are all around.
They're everywhere, and for those that can see them, and
you're clairvoyant, a lot of people can see them, and
aliens ad the same way.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They're all around. They're all around our planets.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
They got ships parked all over our major cities, over
our planets, but most people can't see them. I actually
got a photo of a ship through night vision binaculars
over a friend's house. It was a kind of tag team,
So we were doing a steak out one night and
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I had my night vision binaculars and I was taking
pictures and when I look back at them, is like
you can you can see the house I'm looking at
my cameras. First you see that the house like this,
and then the ship is like a little bigger than
a house just above it, and it's kind of an
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oval shape and it's just like a black mass. But
you can definitely see that in the photo. You can
see that shape of a shift of a ship that
you would not see you can see it with a
naked eye, but it came out with the night vision
and it's only a matter of time before I've.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Been home for a long time.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
The scientists invent glasses where we can see our relatives
on the other side, or see spirits or ghosts and
or sea aliens, because they're just in another, you know,
metaphysical or mystical level of reality, but it's not one
that we.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Do have access to those other levels of reality.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, when when you describe the photo Kevin Kanooth was
on recently, and Gary Nolan has also talked about this,
that whatever electric magnetic signature that the ships are giving off,
that it sort of warps and distorts the space time
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around it or some other effect. That even a camera
when you point at it, it might be able to pick
up something, but it can't lock on a solid image.
And this makes a lot of sense because people do well,
they'll pick up like a light, like a glowing light
coming from something right using night vision camera like our
phones can pick up UV light pretty well. But then
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that's it, Like you can't get like a nice defined image,
and that would be because of some sort of interference
around the craft. And I find that really interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, because we're only we can only see one small
band of light, you know, of all the light spectrum,
and the aliens can see the whole or a lot
more than us and participate in those other areas like
that we can't even perceive within our own physical sense.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Is Yeah, we have a question here from uh Diane Ross,
Uh have you ever heard of a species of aliens
who got trapped on Earth? One of my clients experienced
such during a regression.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Get trapped on Earth. I I think she wanted to
bring this up. I'm now reading a book by or
just finished reading a book that's not published yet by
PMH at Water.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Aliens on the show.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, yeah, aliens in the Near death Experience. It'll be
on a couple of months, and she channels this being
it's actually her higher self for herself in a previous
life called Aracus, and Oracus described it, I mean's a
fascinating whole chapter.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And not so much being trapped on Well it could
be that way.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
He explains that he comes from a water star and
a serious planet, that this serious star system. They actually
wrote this down a water star. It wasn't it wasn't
a planet. It was a star and a serious system
that went nova in the constellation Canis Major. So they
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were they were on a water planet and they lived
in the water and the planet was was drying up
because the temperature changes, and they had to leave, and
so they took something like twelve ships two hundred people each,
and they came they found planet Earth to relocate.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So they didn't have another place.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
To go, and they were they actually couldn't they They
kind of got stuck on Earth too, because they couldn't
really leave once they got here, you know, they actually
had to take them a long time, like hundreds of
years to assimilate to our atmosphere. And it's very fascinating.
They were Racus is described as a lizard type being
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and they had no place else to go. They kind
of got stuck here. And she actually has drawings of
this being.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
In the book, so people did people where's that coming from?
The people like channel it or well, it's.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
From p m ah h at waters and she had
a near one of her near death experiences. She had
aliens in her hospital room, and then she decided to
do a like a trans channel to try and find
out what it was all about.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's when she found out about this her It was her.
It's like her higher self or previous being.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But you know, when there's no time, there's no past life.
So yeah, so that it goes into details, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I don't know if it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
And I've also read where you know, something like eighty
two different species participated in the origins of our planet
and seating it and everything.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So yeah, Alien Love says long Ago, I was told
I was from a water star in the vicinity of Sirius.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It could be the same one.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Is what is a water star though I've never heard
of that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
And I think she explains in the book if that serious,
there is like a B and C star, and the
A and B star are still there, but the C
star was the water planet that went They said nova.
It just whatever that.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Means I guess it just evaporated, exploded or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Okay, so no.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Longer I would imagine it was probably a pretty large
planet because maybe that you know, I don't know enough
about astrophysics to understand that were cosmology, But but I
wonder if maybe, like if it was a super large planet,
like like a Jupiter, you know, could it have imploded
(25:54):
in the sense created pressure within the core and maybe
the core exploded or something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I'm not sure. Yeah, and makes it clears that it
wasn't a planet, it was a star.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Wow. So yeah, okay, yeah, it's just like my my
understanding of the definition of the star does not include
H two oh as well. Yeah, you know, so that's interesting,
very interesting. Who knows, who knows what we'll find out
in the future. But I do want to hear your
your stories, you know, what, what experiences you've had directly
(26:29):
with with the with the UFO.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Okay, well, we'll start out with a story that I
wrote my book Breakfast with Bluebirds, and it's called UFOs
over the finger Legs. And actually I wrote this story
because I was the editor of a local magazine. I
was advertising my UFO group and can take me and
wanted me to write a story about it, and so
(26:54):
I did.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't even think I ever get published, but anyhow
it did not.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And so experience that happened about I don't know, I
say pre COVID, maybe five years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I was now.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I live in the Finger Lakes area of western New York,
south of Rochester, beautiful wine country, and there's a lake
near my backyard ten minute walk.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's in the Pristine Lake. There's no houses on it,
it's just woods.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And there's a road called Marrowback Road that goes up
above the lake and it goes through this forest. It's
part of the Candi Semlak State Forest. And I was
visiting a fran there and in this forest there's houses,
but they sit way back in the woods. So when
you're driving down the road, you don't see any houses.
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There's no street lights, there's no nothing to learning a forest.
And so I was visiting a friend one evening and
it's about eleven thirty at night.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I left the house. I'm driving down this road.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
It was used to be a dirt road and it's
almost just a little wider than two lanes, no other cars, nothing,
And I'm driving down this road and I see a
bright orange battle of light in the sky and it's
to the left, just above the trees, to the left
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of me, and I'm like, holy Toledo, this is eleven
thirty at night. And it's easy to describe because it
looks exactly like when you get the setting sun and
it's a beautiful orange bottle of lights. It looks exactly
like that, only this is eleven thirty at night. And
I'm driving the car and I see this light and
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I'm not driving the car, and I'm like, holy Toledo,
that's UFO. And I'm just staring at it, staring at it,
and i start praying, please God, please, angels and guys,
please protect me because i really don't feel like being
abducted tonight. I'm saying this out loud driving my car
and I'm just staring. I'm staring out the windshield like this.
(29:06):
And it was a beautiful summer night, the car window down,
but there was no stars.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It was like a cloudy night.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So as I'm driving and I'm driving for probably another mile,
just staring at the scene, driving, and I get to
the intersection, I stopped. I stopped the car and I'm
staring at this thing that was probably the size of
I don't know, I'm going to maybe three or four
winnebageos put together. It looked made my car seem really small,
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and it was just above the trees.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
It was only a couple of hundred yards away.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And for one thing, I noticed a complete silence. I
stopped the car and there's no crickets, there's no peepers,
there's no sound in the woods, just complete silence. There's
no noise coming from this, aorb of light alls I
could hear, like the humming of the.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
The car engine.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
And so I get out my cell phone and I
call my husband and I get his voicemail and I'm like, Bob,
if I'm like coming home tonight, it's probably something to
do with.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
The UFO I'm staring at. And I hunt up the
phone and then there's, you know, talk about the photo,
the thing about I didn't think to take a picture.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And there's this whole phenomenon where people have a camera
but they don't take a picture, and it's because they
get in your hat, they get in your head. I say,
They're like, i'mish, I hope I don't offend people, but
they don't like their picture.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Take it.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
You just you just took my brain into a direction
I did not expect. I get what do you mean
by the Amish?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Imish don't like their picture taken?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh, but they don't control your minds.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
They don't control your mind, but they don't like your picture.
Take it.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
So this is phenomenon. I've heard the story over and
over and over again. The camera around my neck on
the cell phone. I didn't take a picture. So I'm
staring at this thing, and you know, I'm scared, but
I'm kind of in awe at.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
The same time.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And then it just kind of dissipated. It just kind
of got small and just disappeared. I mean it didn't
take off or anything like that. It's just like a
wisp of smoke just disappeared and that was it. But
I found out actually just this PS summer, I always
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wondered if there was more to the story because a
good friend of mine I call I call him Tom.
He said to me, I told him about the event.
Oh and my girlfriend I told her about it the
next day and she was like, yeah, I saw the
orange ball, like too, the girlfriend whose house I left,
She said, yeah, I saw that too, and.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
We really didn't talk about it further.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
But then my friend Tom says, you know, a lot
of times you think you're seeing the beginning of an event,
but it's really the end of the event, like they're
just returning you. So I always wondered I kind of
had that time stamp. I knew on the time I
called my husband to the time I got home. It
wasn't a missing time, but I wasn't sure about the
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time from when I left my girlfriend's house to the
time I got to that intersection. So there was a
space of like ten minutes. I didn't know if anything
happened then. So this summer, my girlfriend invite me up.
I go to her house and I'm say, you remember
remember that experience that you left both She goes, she goes, yeah, Oh, actually,
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I just finished writing this story and she was reading it,
and she says, she's reading, She goes, you're right. It
was on the left side of the road, just above
the trees, and she says, I saw it right after
you left the driveway.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
She goes, you laughed.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I went outside to let the dogs out and it
was right there at the end of the driveway. I'm like,
wait a minute, if you saw it after I left,
but when I saw it would have been behind me.
But when I saw it ten minutes later, it was
ahead of me. So it seems like there was some
sort of a missing time segment there. I'm not sure,
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but that was just one of the experiences.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, I mean maybe, but you know, if we're talking
about technology, that could you.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Know, slip Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we just don't know, but yeah,
that that's not uncommon for people to see something sort
of manifest and then dissipate just right in front of
their eyes. And that's it. It's not it's not traveling
off into the distance. It just disappears.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
It disappears.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I think that's a very bizarre phenomena. And that's
the kind of thing that you really want to catch
on camera. And it's so totally uncommon. And I don't
think necessarily that they I mean not the saying that
they don't, but you know, whoever are behind these UFOs UAP,
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they don't necessarily have to get into your head. I
think just human nature. When you're in awe of something,
when you're in that moment, your first reaction is not
because your your brain kicks in, you know, the the
reptilian brain kicks in, and so your reptilian brain is
not thinking cell phones, you know, it's it's thinking what
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am I looking at? What am I dealing with? Am
I in danger? You know? So then now you're on
alert and you're hyper focused on something, and everything else
fades away. And then by the time you have time
to process it and think about it, usually it's gone
or it's over, or people get out their phone and
it's already off in the distance. So, yeah, it is.
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It is a little frustrating, but we do you have
way more photographic and video evidence than we've ever had.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, not really great, but well there's some stuff.
The government has all the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think, well that that seems to be the inside
scoop the impression that I get. And even recently when
John Koslowski, who is the new director of ARROW, was
was that the hearing Christen Juliband, he seemed to indicate
that there is some better, you know, video and evidence
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out there that we haven't seen yet, And others who
have worked in the government have come out and have
said that before him. But the fact that ARROW now
the new director seems to be much more open than
previous seun Kirk factor that that's encouraging. I mean, the
next couple of years could be really really impressive what
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they release.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah. Yeah, we will see, we will see. So do
you want to know more about more up close and
personal experiences?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Well?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
How many have you had? That's what I want to know.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'm not really I'm not really sure. And I think
a lot of I mean, there's a whole other fin
hour people are taking all the time. I don't even
know it. Oh maybe he's running a long uh oh
my gosh, I might have I thought he was plugged
in this my batteries running along.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Do you have access to the wire to the plug?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Uh? Yeah? Should I go check it real quick?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean, can you can you plug it in now?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, let's do that just appear for a second.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Okay, yeah, we're just gonna have to riff here for
a second. So if anybody has any questions and in
the comment section, you know, just let me know.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
The cord got loose.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It just okay, cool, We're.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Good now, Yeah, just.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Just sorry about that. So yeah, so the up close
and personal ones, So.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, the one I the one first memorable, kind of
traumatic one that I had was it was only a
few years ago, I think maybe three years ago now,
alas he had been the last few years. And so anyhow,
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I was in bed, sleeping, and I have to kind
of preface this by saying, my husband has a disability
with his back, so he sleeps in the den below
the bedroom where I sleep. I'm upstairs in the bed
by myself, so he's not there, and although I really
wished he was, so one time I was sleeping and
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I hear a wishing sound coming from like the window,
and it wastes me up. And I'm laying in bed
and I see a beam of light come through the
ceiling of the bedroom and it said forty five degree angle.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But what I really noticed, I don't know why I
noticed it. The light didn't go all the way to
the floor, like stopped before I catching the floor. It's
a weird thing. I noticed it.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
And then at the end of my bed a black
pyramid forms and inside me in my bedroom, in my
bedroom before the bed, And while this is happening, I'm
laying in bed and I'm like, holy Toledo, this is
really hating.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
This is really happening. I'm scared. I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Is you used No, I don't think I used it.
I got beached in one of my other padcasts, so
I kept beeped out.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
So anyhow, I was frozen in terror. I was frozen
in terror. I could not move.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I see the beam of light, I see the pyramid shape,
and the next thing I know, it's like the entire
bedroom formed into a pyramid and I was like now
inside of it.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And that was it. I'm sorry. I had to take
a little sip of water here.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, and that was it. And then it disappeared or.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
No, I went unconscious. I went unconscious and I woke
up the next day. I don't know how many hours
later actually was. I think it was a few hours
later because.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I I called my friend Tom because he's a truck
driving drive tonight and I was just hysterical, just hysterical
and Colin and saying, you know, I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened, but something really huge happened.
And the next day I noticed I noticed I had
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like in hindsight, I had like PTSD symptoms because the
next day I felt like my brain had been scrambled
and I was just pacing around the house. I couldn't
focus on anything. You know, it takes you like twenty
minutes to make a cup of coffee. And yeah, so
I was like just like that for a while. I
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don't know, I don't know what happened. I just know
there was a black pyramid in my bedroom. And I
don't know anyone else that's had that experience. I don't
know what species is connected with a black pyramid, but
that was And also on hindsight a as a psychologist,
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I looked at it.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
The level of fear that I had was not human.
It wasn't human.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
It was totally induced, because the fear can be induced
to im mobilize you and control you.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
And it wasn't even I don't know. It was like
if you see something.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Scary, you know you're afraid, but this was like just
a level of terror. And the way I compare it
is like when I had the near death experience, you
experience a level of love this human, yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
This it was it was just the total opposite, a
level yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Can kind of understand. So for instance, when you when
we feel something, right, I mean, it involves all parts
of our brains and it affects our physiology, you know,
we feel it. We can induce fear of feeling an
anxiety using sound waves. I mean scientists have done this, okay,
so it's not like, you know, some imaginary thing. So
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if we can do it with sound waves, maybe it
can be done with other kind of like you know,
electromagnetic waves or who knows what I would imagine. I
would imagine, yeah, that like that anxiety and fear, if
it's being caused by an external physical stimulation, that it
would feel different. But if it was just innate from
from from you.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
But then again, like I said, every time I take
my cat to the vet, it was like, okay, I'm
abducting him taking them. Is that what they're doing, just
checking checking up on their you know, I would an experiment,
not really experiment, but I think they really care for us,
and you know, this was a thing in the same
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way they're trying to upgrade us. In the same way
that we try and upgrade cattle to get better meat,
we try to upgrade, upgrade you know, tomatoes and vegetables
to get better grade or you know, resistant to disease
fruits and vegetables, and we do all this stuff, genetically
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modified stuff, and we're upgrading and it's all in the
name of trying to make a better planet, trying to
make better food for us, and and also all the
things that they know how to do now with the
vaccines or you know, preventing illnesses, and I just I
think that's really what's what's going on is there, you know,
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we're like their children, and they're you know, raising us
and trying to make a better human, better planet and
raise our vibration. And that's what I think is this
is part of the ascension process.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I think that would make sense, especially if they really
are like a much higher not just like emotional, spiritual level,
but like just intellectually that if there are levels above us,
I could see that as kind of like not like pets,
like the way we see pets, but something akin to that,
Like children are you know, don't have fully developed brains,
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So that analogy works too, and it's interesting. Yeah, I mean,
we just inherently as a species, farmers have been cross breeding, hybridizing,
hybridizing you know, plants and wheat strains and cultivating different
varieties and trying to improve them for thousands of years
now and now we're just kind of like in that
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exponential explosion of genetic manipulation, which has I think a
lot of positive but also a lot of unexpected negatives.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
And where do we learn that from? You know, maybe
we learned that from other species.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, I hope we learn our lesson from from the
way we've experimented with plants and such, and not go
too crazy with the gene splicing on humans because that
because that's that's inevitable and it's probably within you know,
in the next decade or so where you're going to
have you know, experiments on humans where they're they're going
to want to crisper. I'm using that like a verb.
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I know it's not a verb, but using like technology
to to change our genome and that sort of thing. So,
uh yeah, well, it's not hard to imagine that an
alien species would would be doing that sort of thing
if they are here and now. But then there's the
burden of proof, right, like, how do we how do
we proof that that's actually happening?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well, no, no, it's something that can't be proved, that's
for sure.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
But I would imagine it would eventually become a reality, right, Yeah,
if they if they have an end goal, if they
have an intent, then there must be a result, right
that we would see and recognize as well.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
I think that's I think the the intention and the
result is the raising of the vibration of the human
species to unity consciousness, is what I understand from studying
things on the ascension.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah. And so they also.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Want us to be part of the Galactic Federation, and
we cannot be a part of that as on as
we are still fighting ours ourselves. It's like we can't
handle the diversity on our own planet, our own along
with just human species and also with you.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Know, animals. How are we going to handle diversity in
the rest of the universe?
Speaker 3 (46:06):
You know, if we're afraid of each other, you know,
it's you know, one of the reasons they're not gonna
be landing anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
I think that's a good If I were them, i'd
probably feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Well, the best analogy I heard was, you know, for
the aliens to land on Earth is like be like
landing in the middle of a sane asylum where all
inmates are armed.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah. Yeah, and you've heard these theories about prison planet.
I don't necessarily believe that's true. No, I don't believe
that that that this is a prison planet, that.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
We're a young soul planet.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
We are you know, spiritually evalved or like the you know,
compared to other species, we're like in the second or
third grade, you know, we're just getting out of kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
So that's one of the analogies that I've heard.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, I have a question from Lovely what areas would
you say humans have yet to learn from an et perspective?
That's interesting?
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Well, you know, I don't really know if it can
be learned because for me it was a near death experience.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
But it's it's a unity consciousness. But you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
Have a near death experience to practice that we are
all one, to practice the golden rule.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
You know what I do to you, you know, doing
to others?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Sure, And that's you know, that's why we have these
teachings because we don't understand that we are all one,
because we've chosen to be in this human body and
be separate from God to each other that perception, but
in reality, the bigger reality.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
We are.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
And that's one thing that we we can learn and
and try and practice.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
So you really believe that we choose, like our previous
consciousness form chose to be in this human body.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, I wouldn't even be a previous consciousness would be
you know, our higher self now because if you're pretty
familiar probably with life between lives and the work of
Michael Newton and stuff that and Robert Schwartz like to
mention him that that's one of the things. It's just
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a given in spiritual circles that we do choose our
in you know, our challenges in life, our incarnations. And
this is the thing that's it's kind of hard to
understand because we have free will, and the aliens do
respect free will, Beloved, our free will happens before we
even incarnated, you know, so we choose to come.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
So that's an interesting way to look at it.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
I see that, and okay, aliens are abducting me against
my will?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Are they? Are they?
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Or did I make an agreement before I came here
to the physical body and say look at this is
going to help to raise the consciousness of humanity, Then
I'm all in, do what you gotta do. So, like
I said, there's a kind of whole spiritual aspect to
this too, and it's I just see it from several
different levels.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, speaking of functioning consciousnesses. Alien Love, in response to
our coffee comments, says, my poor over coffee can take
twenty minutes. I don't know if that's a special poor
over coffee or it's just the morning routine takes you
twenty minutes to make that coffee. I know, it's kind
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of like the it's a conundrum, right, It's like it
takes I want, I need coffee to get up and
do things, and so I don't have the coffee to
make the coffee. I need to get up and make
the coffee. Have you ever found yourself kind of in
the kitchen walking around like what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, I'm making a coffee, right.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, making a coffee. Yeah. So yeah, did you have
any other questions, some other experiences.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Or uh no, we have a few minutes left. So
I do want to get your take generally on where
you think the government disclosure side of things are going.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Don't where I think.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
I think it's it's going to be a grassroots movement.
We can see a hit met already from people, well
the people in government like the whistleblowers that are like,
I've got enough. I'm not I'm not towing your line
any longer. I'm not lying, you know, I'm not gonna
keep covering up your lies. I'm not doing this. And
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this is part of the raising of the consciousness of humanity,
you know. It's it's the old schools on the way
out and the new schools coming in the people that
want the truth, you know. And this is you know,
part of the big thing is free energy. You know,
I just heard I've heard of the truth in Bargo. Now,
I've heard of the energy embargo where you know, the
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government is holding hostage free energy they could be available
to us, but they don't want to because.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
You know, the.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Powers that be, you know, want the fossil fuels to
make money. So and this is where where I've been
learning that the old school is going to start to
kind of the phase out as people, as people die,
and it's kind of it's going to be a gradual process.
And people that have a higher consciousness, that understand that
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we're all one planet and we're all in this together,
They're like, no, I'm not towing they lie any longer.
So I think that's what's going to happen, and gradually
it's and we are seeing it hamp and it's really
cool to watch.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah. I mean, if you just look at the the
government and representatives and the government officers, people who are
you know, work for the Defense Department, and I means
you know, Loue Alessandro, Chris Mellen, you know all these people,
Eric Davis, people who've worked closely behind the scenes with
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the government on UAP are more and more of them.
We're trying to push disclosure and I think, you know,
we have a whole new class of congress people that
are much more open minded to it and also tired
of the cover up as well. And I think that's
that is the kind of changing of the guard over time,
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Like you know, some people are retiring, moving on, and
you have new blood coming in with a different mindset.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Right turnover, the people have your own You're getting better
and better people. It's yeah, it's it's a gradual process,
but we're watching it happen.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
We are, Yeah, and I think we're moving towards that
tipping point where you kind of just get to that
critical mass and then there's no stopping it, you know,
there's just enough people behind the scenes, whether it's in
the clandestine side of military operations, secret access programs, you know,
Department of Defense, and the government representatives, that collective eventually
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will tip completely and I don't know when, but I
suspect it in the next like five to ten years
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
The huge thing that they're ignoring that Oather's KNT. They're
not even discussing cantake d's and millions of people that
are and the government knows about it. They get their
their phones tapped, you know, they're watching them, you know,
and everything else, so they know who is contd. They
know everything about everybody and they're watching them. To me,
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there should be government program to help contact ees because
of the mental health issues that come with it. So
that would be one thing that I would, you know,
love to push forth. Government grants. You've got government grants
for every everything, now, why not. They're the ones that
are kind of covering this all up and not even
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acknowledging that there's a huge problem not only in our
country but on the planet. And because it's a worldwide
phenomenon that people need support groups and and just other
like minded people to get together and understand and that
they're not alone, and that they are living in different
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levels of reality, which is difficult, you know when when
you're you're fully conscious on a planet that is mostly unconscious.
So that's you know, there's a social aspect to that.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, I think that if we get disclosure, then at
that point, I think the government would be willing to
have that conversation. But even recently, we were watching the
news about these drones that are being seen in Jersey
and it was odd that the newscasters, you know how
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they kind of snicker a little bit sometimes already talk
about UFOs, but they were doing the same snickering with drones,
and I thought, what a strange behavior, because this is
our airspace and these are they're caught on camera, we
have videos of these things. It's very real, and they
were kind of uncomfortably laughing ish about it. And I thought,
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you know, if they can't even handle talking about drones
in our airspace, forget about UFOs. And I think that
I think it would be too much of a leap
for the government to just come out now and say, hey,
we're taking the alien abduction phenomena hereously. I think that
they first have to reveal without a shadow of a doubt,
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here's the evidence that we've got this thing is there.
These are extraterrestrials here on earth. Once that door is open,
then everyone else will go, well, okay, well if that's possible,
then this might be possible to it. And then I
think we can have that other conversation. Yeah, nationally, Mary,
if you can leave us with one thought, what would
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it be?
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Oh geez, I was hoping to talk about the Buffalo Bills. Yeah,
co builds.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
I mean, you can plug the Bills anytime, but do
you want to briefly talk about that?
Speaker 3 (56:41):
Yeah. I wrote a story in my book Breakfast and Overs,
two stories about the Buffalo Bills, and I dedicated the
book to them and the Bills Mafia and the Fabulous
Fans because because the Bills are are an inspirational phenomenon,
and I was inspired to write it if they lost
the playoffs last year, because everyone was grown in and
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complaining and angry about it, and I'm like, wait a minute,
they just gave us like six months of entertainment and
bringing our family and friends together. So they really are
an inspirational phenomenon and and we learned from them. Because
it's like life is like a football game. It's full
of penalties and injuries and draft kicks, but we, like
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the players, we have to keep getting up over and
over and over again.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
So I wrote this story.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
And because there's a lot of Buffalo Bill's fans in
our area and shout out to the Bill's Mafia, the
and Bill's bankers all over the world.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Because they raised money for charity.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
And another way you could raise money for charity is
with the books they have purchased Breakfast with Bluebirds. Part
of that money goes to the Gifts of Grace Ministry
and the comment section thank you yeah, and also of
the Hermitage in Indianapolis. My friend, father Justin Belize, wrote
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the forward to the book. He's a Franciscan priest and
unfortunately he passed away before it was published, so some
of the proceeds will go to his charity too, So
I'm hoping, I think. And the book was written at
for people that are struggling going through a difficult time.
There's a lot of different stories in there, lessons learned
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about life, death, life after death, angels, miracles, aliens. Great
present for anyone for a Bill Span or anyone that's
going through a hard time this Christmas Breakfast with Bluebirds
and it's available on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah, I mean, who doesn't want to have Breakfast with
Bluebirds anyway? Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
Mary.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
It's so great to have you on Coffee and UFOs.
And very quickly, I want to share with everybody out there.
I was going to post something on social media, didn't
get around to doing it, so I'll just share with
the now. So I am indefinitely discontinuing the Mystic Lounge
podcast and we'll be focusing solely on the Coffee and
UFOs podcast up right here. So if you're a fan
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of this podcast, you know, please share your thoughts, comment
review wherever you listen to your podcasts, if you can
review there, that would be super super appreciated because that
really helps as well. So, you know, there's just the
UFO topic has grown so big, Mary at this point
that it's like I can't spread my bandwidth, you know,
in too many directions, so it's easier to just focus
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on on the UFO topic, which is really the core
you know, paranormal if you.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Know, one of the biggest things happening in the history
of humanity, that it's all tied in with the shift
to the fifth dimension. They're all it's all tied in there,
and I think they're going to disclose before the government does.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
It might just show up and then they can't deny
it any longer.
Speaker 1 (59:56):
Well, I mean a lot of people suspect that that, yeah,
that might actually occur.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
And they have showed up for millions of people. You know,
they're already here.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yeah, yeah, Mary, thank you so much for your time.
I really really appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Thank you. This has been just a blessing and h
on my bucket list. I just really thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I wanted to be in Coffees and UFOs and I'm
very very very Anderdale and keep up the great work.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
You're doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Thank you, Mary. And I'm honored that you came to
Coffee and UFOs with coffee.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yes, yeah, good coffe.
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
All right, all right, And thank you everybody for jumping
in tonight. Maria Wilson, thank you for uh staying up
later than normal to hang out with us. Who really
appreciate that. And your comments and your questions were great,
so always appreciated this podcast. Coffee and UFOs is now
rebroadcast on the UNEX network eleven pm Pacific time and
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I'll see you. On the flip side, it's good to
be in personally.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I wish more of us would think of ourselves that way.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I don't have a problem with skeptics.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
It's the bunkers that are on some other level that
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Understand, especially an inference of a change in local gravity.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Saucer shaped craft and they're hovering over the water.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
A little bit. Special reports for attain. The better the
quality of the sighting, the more likely to be unexplainable.
M
Welcome back everyone to Coffee and the UFOs, two of
my favorite things. I am really really excited about a
guest tonight, Mary Grace, who I've had on the Mystic
Lounge podcast, and we're going to be talking about personal
UFO experiences and she has an interesting insight into these
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experiences from a somewhat mystical point of view, one could argue,
but also a nuts and bolts point of view, so
we'll talk about that in just the moment. As a
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I'm looking forward to your comments tonight and your questions.
I see Alien Love, Hey Alien Love, Hey Maria. It's
gonna be a really good night tonight, So let's let's roll.
And as a friendly reminder, every Thursday night at eleven
pm Pacific time, Coffee and UFO's is on the ONEX Network.
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It's also on the next Work on X Network at
two a m. Eastern time Fridays. That's morning, late morning
here on the on the east coast in the Hudson Valley,
the Hudson Valley, which is not far from where a
lot of these drone sightings have been taking place. In fact,
my one of my recent move on reports is due
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to a drone what we I think is a drone
sighting off of Long Island and it was a cluster
of drones out there. So you know the fact that
we have drones over bases in the UK, Germany Morristown
area in New Jersey. There was a report of auditory
drones in the Sussex County area of New Jersey, which
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is way up north compared to to Morristown and then
Long Island. So something bizarre is definitely going on. And
I am kind of curious because Mary is also a
fellow New Yorker, what her take on that is. So
we'll bring on our esteemed guests. Now, Mary, how are
you welcome back?
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Hi Ellen.
Speaker 3 (02:30):
I'm so excited to be here tonight, and I thank
you for giving me the opportunity to share my passion
for the paranormal. And I'm ready with my coffee and UFOs.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
Yeah, I totally appreciate that that we both were prepared
with our coffee tonight, because not every guest is on
the same page as me, and I think that, you know,
we definitely have kind of a kindred spirit thing going on,
you know, with especially with your book that you wrote.
That was something that I really really enjoyed. And when
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you were on Mystic Lounge, you discussed more of like
spirituality and very personal stories there as well, which I appreciate.
You know, your vulnerability. We both have a background and
some shared I guess you could say trauma experiences. So
now you're here on coffee UFOs and we're talking about
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the UFO phenomena, So can you give us a little
bit of a background on your interest began with UFOs
or UAP.
Speaker 3 (03:30):
Yeah, I think I was like seven seven years old
and a family outing coming returning from somewhere at night,
and we spotted some UFOs in the sky. My father
was in the Army Air Corps. He's also a pilot
and also a photography nut. So family of eight in
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the station wagon we pull over the side of the
road see some strange lights. We were all scared, the
kids were, and my dad gets out and sees that
opportunity and he takes pictures and at first there was
like one light in the sky, and then he's got
another picture where there's two lights and then three lights
and they were just they were a little bit elongated,
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but they were stationary. He got pictures of it, and
he sent it to the newspaper and the next day
they printed it in the local Rochester Democrat and Chronicle
put a big story in there about the marine family.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
I mean, that's that's Do you think that was a
brave thing or was it just a second nature thing
for him to do.
Speaker 3 (04:39):
Oh, it was like with the photography and everything, that
was second nature for him. Plus plus he was a
pilot and was interested in, you know, anything aviation try
and figure out what it was. He knew it wasn't
an airplane. And they had a big story in the
paper about it. And but then you know, they kind
of smissed it. They said, well, someone said it was
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just weather balloons something like that, weather balloons, and like, okay,
but it was when you're seven years old, your you know,
family pictures and there was like pictures of the UFOs,
pictures of my dad, big story and that was kind
of you know, it was one of the kickoff things
to get interested in the UFOs.
Speaker 1 (05:23):
Yeah, so that was an interest. Do you think that
that led to any sort of contact later on.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
I imagine It's probably been with me all my life.
I've always been interested in UFOs and digging through my
research today, I found a story in nineteen seventy four
I would have been fourteen where Livingston County sheriffs chased
the UFO for over twelve miles, so that was still
going on in the area. There was some you know,
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UFO sightings and yeah, so just always seeing the interest
in experience, reading books on it, and.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Maybe it just followed me. I'm not really sure.
Speaker 1 (06:10):
Yeah, and really quickly I want I forgot to mention
the name of the book is Breakfast with the Bluebirds
Inspirational Short Stories, and you can find that at Gifts
of Graceministry dot org. I have to add here. Maria
Wilson says, good to see everyone tonight. I'm usually in
bed now, so sting up for you. Mary. Thanks Maria.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
My afternoon.
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yeah. I mean, I definitely think there's something with the
interest in UFO, ufology and or paranormal where a lot
of the people are into that these subjects are night people.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
Yeah. Yeah. The other thing that I've I've learned.
Speaker 3 (06:54):
It's just a lot of most people that are probably
either contacts or did in the subject are probably and
I've learned this from different channelers and books I read,
are probably from another planet in a previous life and
they came here. In fact, one of the ones I
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was just reading this, I think it was Matt conn
talked about it was a lot of people are just
this is like their first incarnation on Earth.
Speaker 2 (07:26):
And one of the things they're talking about.
Speaker 3 (07:27):
Now is star seeds, and they at the newborns now
are from other planets. So in a previous life or
whatever life, it all happens at once. So it's interesting,
and that's helping to with our our our ascension and
our shift from three D to five D, which you know,
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I've been very interested in too. So you know, we're
kind of weeding out the negativity on our planet.
Speaker 2 (07:56):
Is people died off?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I mean, I hope. So you know, I've always had
some doubt about the star seed theory, just because you know,
when I had first heard about that theory, we're talking
about like decades now, right, and I'm like waiting like,
where's the the obvious change at this point because a
lot of those uh, star seed people children what's the
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other term?
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I forget indigo?
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Indigo? Yeah, and I was if that was like a
real thing, and there were there were really more in
emotionally intelligent, evolved in some way because of you know, the.
Speaker 2 (08:38):
Supposed to be more gifted.
Speaker 3 (08:39):
A lot of other kids are more gifted psychically in
other ways.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
And the other thing.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Is the preponderance of developmental disabilities, autism, things like that
that they're just you know, if you're coming from another
planet and you're trying to adjust to this three D
lower vibration, and kids today learn differently. They don't learn
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the way we did thirty or four years. They're a
lot more intelligent. So yeah, so that's interesting. That seems
to be part of it.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
Yeah, we have a comment from Lovely question she asks,
or he asks, I am interested to know if Mary
was in touch with an ET that helped her develop
advanced skills eg. Telepathy or does she know anyone who has.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
Well.
Speaker 3 (09:36):
My first spiritually transformative experience, it was after death visitation
from my mom, and then I had a near death
experience and that kind of those two things kind of
you know, expanded my awareness.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
The NDE kind.
Speaker 3 (09:54):
Of just blew apart my consciousness and I achieved What
occurred was this unity consciousness and knowing that we're all one,
not just knowing, but experiencing we're all one.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (10:09):
And I was actually doing research a couple of years
ago on the compared comparing nd experiences with alien content experiences,
and there's many, many similarities, and one of them is
the psychic ability. You know, psychic ability is expanded when
you have et contact or just even cee a UFO.
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It can be a life changing event for somebody, for anyone.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
And now all of a.
Speaker 3 (10:39):
Sudden, people are aware that there's other levels of reality.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
So that's there can be a huge shift for people there.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
Isn't And there is very interesting parallel between the alien
contact experience, psychedelic experiences, and mystical experiences. When you know,
we hear of stages of the past who connected with
you know, spirits or beings that are not of this earth,
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we can, I think draw a direct parallel to the
sort of the messaging that we hear from the alleged
extraterrestrial The question is are they are people actually in
contact with extraterrestial meaning physical beings off planet on another
planet visiting here, or are we talking about something something
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different and NHIA.
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Well, well, of course, you know, alien abductions have been
happening for you know, we've been ket known about it
in at least last seventy years since raswell and everything
that's come out about the alien everything that we know
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about them. So and it's the one thing that never
talked about in a lot of the circles and government
and a lot of different things. You know, people are
always asking our et is real or is there a
proof of life on the Earth?
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Well, just ask people.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
Physically taken from their bedrooms and aboard ships, which are
millions of people, millions and millions millions of people who
don't question whether or not, you know, there's life on
other planets. It's in their bedrooms and it's in their
living rooms or their backyards.
Speaker 2 (12:33):
Right, so, there certainly is. But there are a couple different.
Speaker 3 (12:39):
Types of contact and the preferred term really the abduction
is contact D. But there's also not only the physical,
but there's like the the spiritual and more where they
can take you just your consciousness or they just take
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your spirit where you're you know, you're left in your
bed or wherever that you are at the time, and
you're not physically taking, but you're spiritually you're consciously taken or.
Speaker 2 (13:13):
Or they give you downloads.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Yeah, I mean, I would argue that it doesn't have
to be like a spirit in the way we imagine
a spirit being taken out of a body or the like,
because we do know that consciousness, or at least it's
measurable brain activity, extends beyond the physical flesh, right, And
so if we accept that consciousness can exist beyond outside
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of the body, then like you know, I've spoken to
other abductee contactees who felt like they're having an onboard experience,
but it's happening almost in their mind and not a dream, right,
but like this kind of in between place. And so
if consciousness is something that you could cant over time
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and space, then perhaps you can be given an experience
without actually like the soul leaving the body. Your consciousness
is still in your brain, but you're experiencing something else
elsewhere at the same time.
Speaker 3 (14:16):
Yes, it can be exactly. It was almost like virtual reality.
It's like you're doing a virtual reality, you know, it's
it's the matrix. Refer to the matrix and being in
different parts and different dimensions at the same time. And
I mean we we participate in different dimensions all the time.
We do it every night when we were sleeping, you know,
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and our spirit goes somewhere. And it's I like that
you brought up about the dreams, because a lot of
contacts will say, well, I had a dream, and you know,
it wasn't really a dream because they remember details of
the et experience and they remember a lot of details
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and maybe they didn't go there physically, maybe it was
just consciously. But definitely, definitely there's a lot of physical
going on because people come back with marks, implants and
all that.
Speaker 2 (15:13):
You know.
Speaker 1 (15:13):
So right, Uh, how do you feel about that? Do
you think that that extra trescurals are implanting things in
people for for whatever reason?
Speaker 3 (15:26):
Definitely? But yeah, I've read different things about it. As
far as is it a tracking device, I think it's.
Speaker 2 (15:35):
There much more than that.
Speaker 3 (15:37):
You know, it's uh, it may even be mattering our
health in our entire systems and our body because they
can use it to check on us.
Speaker 2 (15:48):
And I think that's what a lot of what goes on.
Is there just we're we're kind of there.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I don't like to say, you could say there experiment,
But I look at it the same way, like we
have kts and every time I take my cat to
the vet and I have to capture them. I got
one cat that doesn't even like to get picked up,
and I have to grab him when he's sleeping. I
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just did this two days ago. Wait till he's sleeping,
make appointment for the morning, Grab him. He's struggling to
get out of my hands, Throw him in the cage.
Speaker 2 (16:25):
He howls all the way to the vat.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
You know, but he's got some some sores in his mouth,
he's got some medical issues, and he's been three times
in this last month. And but if we look at
it like that, and I bring him home and you know,
an hour later he's maybe mad.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
At an hour later he's up in my lap. So
he's forgiven me. He loves me.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
And we have the same type of relationship with aliens.
You know, we made this agreement before we're incarnated to
is it work with them? Or maybe that was part
of our mission and maybe we're not conscious of it
on one level, but on another level we are, so
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I see things from both the physical and the spiritual
angle mind it.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
Yeah, I think that that's good because another way I
think about it is you have very serious minded intellect
scientists philosophers that do consider the possibility that we are
living in something like a simulation, and they're not hiding
in the shadows. They're perfectly comfortable out in the open
talking about that like it's okay, and it's not going
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to affect their reputation in any way. No one's going
to think they're crazy. So if that were to be true,
that there's some sort of something like a simulation, how
different is that really? Then the idea that we are
in some sort of demand reality where there's another dimension
beyond that where there might be other consciousness, or maybe
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our own consciousness is connected to that reality, you know
where it is. I don't think it's that much of
a leap. And yet, you know, the same people who
would entertain that we would live in a computer simulation
would cringe at the thought of this. And I think
that there's a similar parallel between people who are interested
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in UFOs or UAP and they're very much in and
I tend to be more that way too, But they're
very much in like more than nuts and bolts, like
study the evidence, see what's out there, and let's prove
if this is a real thing, and people having actual experiences,
like contact experiences. And to my mind, if if you're
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open to the idea that aliens are coming here, how
how much of his leap really is that if aliens
are here, that they might be interacting, you know, clandestinely,
you know, with with us.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Well, they definitely are, and they're they're not unlike angels.
Angels and our loved ones and spirit are all around.
They're everywhere, and for those that can see them, and
you're clairvoyant, a lot of people can see them, and
aliens ad the same way.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
They're all around. They're all around our planets.
Speaker 3 (19:24):
They got ships parked all over our major cities, over
our planets, but most people can't see them. I actually
got a photo of a ship through night vision binaculars
over a friend's house. It was a kind of tag team,
So we were doing a steak out one night and
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I had my night vision binaculars and I was taking
pictures and when I look back at them, is like
you can you can see the house I'm looking at
my cameras. First you see that the house like this,
and then the ship is like a little bigger than
a house just above it, and it's kind of an
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oval shape and it's just like a black mass. But
you can definitely see that in the photo. You can
see that shape of a shift of a ship that
you would not see you can see it with a
naked eye, but it came out with the night vision
and it's only a matter of time before I've.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Been home for a long time.
Speaker 3 (20:28):
The scientists invent glasses where we can see our relatives
on the other side, or see spirits or ghosts and
or sea aliens, because they're just in another, you know,
metaphysical or mystical level of reality, but it's not one
that we.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Do have access to those other levels of reality.
Speaker 1 (20:49):
Yeah, when when you describe the photo Kevin Kanooth was
on recently, and Gary Nolan has also talked about this,
that whatever electric magnetic signature that the ships are giving off,
that it sort of warps and distorts the space time
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around it or some other effect. That even a camera
when you point at it, it might be able to pick
up something, but it can't lock on a solid image.
And this makes a lot of sense because people do well,
they'll pick up like a light, like a glowing light
coming from something right using night vision camera like our
phones can pick up UV light pretty well. But then
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that's it, Like you can't get like a nice defined image,
and that would be because of some sort of interference
around the craft. And I find that really interesting.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
Yeah, because we're only we can only see one small
band of light, you know, of all the light spectrum,
and the aliens can see the whole or a lot
more than us and participate in those other areas like
that we can't even perceive within our own physical sense.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Is Yeah, we have a question here from uh Diane Ross,
Uh have you ever heard of a species of aliens
who got trapped on Earth? One of my clients experienced
such during a regression.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
Get trapped on Earth. I I think she wanted to
bring this up. I'm now reading a book by or
just finished reading a book that's not published yet by
PMH at Water.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Aliens on the show.
Speaker 3 (22:30):
Yeah, yeah, aliens in the Near death Experience. It'll be
on a couple of months, and she channels this being
it's actually her higher self for herself in a previous
life called Aracus, and Oracus described it, I mean's a
fascinating whole chapter.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
And not so much being trapped on Well it could
be that way.
Speaker 3 (22:54):
He explains that he comes from a water star and
a serious planet, that this serious star system. They actually
wrote this down a water star. It wasn't it wasn't
a planet. It was a star and a serious system
that went nova in the constellation Canis Major. So they
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were they were on a water planet and they lived
in the water and the planet was was drying up
because the temperature changes, and they had to leave, and
so they took something like twelve ships two hundred people each,
and they came they found planet Earth to relocate.
Speaker 2 (23:34):
So they didn't have another place.
Speaker 3 (23:36):
To go, and they were they actually couldn't they They
kind of got stuck on Earth too, because they couldn't
really leave once they got here, you know, they actually
had to take them a long time, like hundreds of
years to assimilate to our atmosphere. And it's very fascinating.
They were Racus is described as a lizard type being
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and they had no place else to go. They kind
of got stuck here. And she actually has drawings of
this being.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
In the book, so people did people where's that coming from?
The people like channel it or well, it's.
Speaker 3 (24:16):
From p m ah h at waters and she had
a near one of her near death experiences. She had
aliens in her hospital room, and then she decided to
do a like a trans channel to try and find
out what it was all about.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
It's when she found out about this her It was her.
It's like her higher self or previous being.
Speaker 3 (24:37):
But you know, when there's no time, there's no past life.
So yeah, so that it goes into details, it's fascinating.
Speaker 2 (24:46):
I don't know if it's the same thing.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
And I've also read where you know, something like eighty
two different species participated in the origins of our planet
and seating it and everything.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
So yeah, Alien Love says long Ago, I was told
I was from a water star in the vicinity of Sirius.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
It could be the same one.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Is what is a water star though I've never heard
of that.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
And I think she explains in the book if that serious,
there is like a B and C star, and the
A and B star are still there, but the C
star was the water planet that went They said nova.
It just whatever that.
Speaker 3 (25:27):
Means I guess it just evaporated, exploded or whatever.
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Okay, so no.
Speaker 1 (25:34):
Longer I would imagine it was probably a pretty large
planet because maybe that you know, I don't know enough
about astrophysics to understand that were cosmology, But but I
wonder if maybe, like if it was a super large planet,
like like a Jupiter, you know, could it have imploded
(25:54):
in the sense created pressure within the core and maybe
the core exploded or something like that.
Speaker 2 (26:01):
I'm not sure. Yeah, and makes it clears that it
wasn't a planet, it was a star.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Wow. So yeah, okay, yeah, it's just like my my
understanding of the definition of the star does not include
H two oh as well. Yeah, you know, so that's interesting,
very interesting. Who knows, who knows what we'll find out
in the future. But I do want to hear your
your stories, you know, what, what experiences you've had directly
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with with the with the UFO.
Speaker 3 (26:32):
Okay, well, we'll start out with a story that I
wrote my book Breakfast with Bluebirds, and it's called UFOs
over the finger Legs. And actually I wrote this story
because I was the editor of a local magazine. I
was advertising my UFO group and can take me and
wanted me to write a story about it, and so
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I did.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
I don't even think I ever get published, but anyhow
it did not.
Speaker 3 (26:59):
And so experience that happened about I don't know, I
say pre COVID, maybe five years ago.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
I was now.
Speaker 3 (27:09):
I live in the Finger Lakes area of western New York,
south of Rochester, beautiful wine country, and there's a lake
near my backyard ten minute walk.
Speaker 2 (27:21):
It's in the Pristine Lake. There's no houses on it,
it's just woods.
Speaker 3 (27:26):
And there's a road called Marrowback Road that goes up
above the lake and it goes through this forest. It's
part of the Candi Semlak State Forest. And I was
visiting a fran there and in this forest there's houses,
but they sit way back in the woods. So when
you're driving down the road, you don't see any houses.
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There's no street lights, there's no nothing to learning a forest.
And so I was visiting a friend one evening and
it's about eleven thirty at night.
Speaker 2 (27:57):
I left the house. I'm driving down this road.
Speaker 3 (28:01):
It was used to be a dirt road and it's
almost just a little wider than two lanes, no other cars, nothing,
And I'm driving down this road and I see a
bright orange battle of light in the sky and it's
to the left, just above the trees, to the left
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of me, and I'm like, holy Toledo, this is eleven
thirty at night. And it's easy to describe because it
looks exactly like when you get the setting sun and
it's a beautiful orange bottle of lights. It looks exactly
like that, only this is eleven thirty at night. And
I'm driving the car and I see this light and
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I'm not driving the car, and I'm like, holy Toledo,
that's UFO. And I'm just staring at it, staring at it,
and i start praying, please God, please, angels and guys,
please protect me because i really don't feel like being
abducted tonight. I'm saying this out loud driving my car
and I'm just staring. I'm staring out the windshield like this.
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And it was a beautiful summer night, the car window down,
but there was no stars.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It was like a cloudy night.
Speaker 3 (29:14):
So as I'm driving and I'm driving for probably another mile,
just staring at the scene, driving, and I get to
the intersection, I stopped. I stopped the car and I'm
staring at this thing that was probably the size of
I don't know, I'm going to maybe three or four
winnebageos put together. It looked made my car seem really small,
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and it was just above the trees.
Speaker 2 (29:37):
It was only a couple of hundred yards away.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
And for one thing, I noticed a complete silence. I
stopped the car and there's no crickets, there's no peepers,
there's no sound in the woods, just complete silence. There's
no noise coming from this, aorb of light alls I
could hear, like the humming of the.
Speaker 2 (30:01):
The car engine.
Speaker 3 (30:03):
And so I get out my cell phone and I
call my husband and I get his voicemail and I'm like, Bob,
if I'm like coming home tonight, it's probably something to
do with.
Speaker 2 (30:19):
The UFO I'm staring at. And I hunt up the
phone and then there's, you know, talk about the photo,
the thing about I didn't think to take a picture.
Speaker 3 (30:31):
And there's this whole phenomenon where people have a camera
but they don't take a picture, and it's because they
get in your hat, they get in your head. I say,
They're like, i'mish, I hope I don't offend people, but
they don't like their picture.
Speaker 2 (30:44):
Take it.
Speaker 1 (30:45):
You just you just took my brain into a direction
I did not expect. I get what do you mean
by the Amish?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Imish don't like their picture taken?
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Oh, but they don't control your minds.
Speaker 2 (31:02):
They don't control your mind, but they don't like your picture.
Take it.
Speaker 3 (31:05):
So this is phenomenon. I've heard the story over and
over and over again. The camera around my neck on
the cell phone. I didn't take a picture. So I'm
staring at this thing, and you know, I'm scared, but
I'm kind of in awe at.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
The same time.
Speaker 3 (31:17):
And then it just kind of dissipated. It just kind
of got small and just disappeared. I mean it didn't
take off or anything like that. It's just like a
wisp of smoke just disappeared and that was it. But
I found out actually just this PS summer, I always
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wondered if there was more to the story because a
good friend of mine I call I call him Tom.
He said to me, I told him about the event.
Oh and my girlfriend I told her about it the
next day and she was like, yeah, I saw the
orange ball, like too, the girlfriend whose house I left,
She said, yeah, I saw that too, and.
Speaker 2 (32:00):
We really didn't talk about it further.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
But then my friend Tom says, you know, a lot
of times you think you're seeing the beginning of an event,
but it's really the end of the event, like they're
just returning you. So I always wondered I kind of
had that time stamp. I knew on the time I
called my husband to the time I got home. It
wasn't a missing time, but I wasn't sure about the
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time from when I left my girlfriend's house to the
time I got to that intersection. So there was a
space of like ten minutes. I didn't know if anything
happened then. So this summer, my girlfriend invite me up.
I go to her house and I'm say, you remember
remember that experience that you left both She goes, she goes, yeah, Oh, actually,
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I just finished writing this story and she was reading it,
and she says, she's reading, She goes, you're right. It
was on the left side of the road, just above
the trees, and she says, I saw it right after
you left the driveway.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
She goes, you laughed.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
I went outside to let the dogs out and it
was right there at the end of the driveway. I'm like,
wait a minute, if you saw it after I left,
but when I saw it would have been behind me.
But when I saw it ten minutes later, it was
ahead of me. So it seems like there was some
sort of a missing time segment there. I'm not sure,
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but that was just one of the experiences.
Speaker 1 (33:24):
Yeah, I mean maybe, but you know, if we're talking
about technology, that could you.
Speaker 2 (33:28):
Know, slip Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:31):
Yeah, I mean, you know, we just don't know, but yeah,
that that's not uncommon for people to see something sort
of manifest and then dissipate just right in front of
their eyes. And that's it. It's not it's not traveling
off into the distance. It just disappears.
Speaker 2 (33:47):
It disappears.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (33:49):
Yeah, I think that's a very bizarre phenomena. And that's
the kind of thing that you really want to catch
on camera. And it's so totally uncommon. And I don't
think necessarily that they I mean not the saying that
they don't, but you know, whoever are behind these UFOs UAP,
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they don't necessarily have to get into your head. I
think just human nature. When you're in awe of something,
when you're in that moment, your first reaction is not
because your your brain kicks in, you know, the the
reptilian brain kicks in, and so your reptilian brain is
not thinking cell phones, you know, it's it's thinking what
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am I looking at? What am I dealing with? Am
I in danger? You know? So then now you're on
alert and you're hyper focused on something, and everything else
fades away. And then by the time you have time
to process it and think about it, usually it's gone
or it's over, or people get out their phone and
it's already off in the distance. So, yeah, it is.
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It is a little frustrating, but we do you have
way more photographic and video evidence than we've ever had.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
Oh yeah, yeah, not really great, but well there's some stuff.
The government has all the good stuff.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
I think, well that that seems to be the inside
scoop the impression that I get. And even recently when
John Koslowski, who is the new director of ARROW, was
was that the hearing Christen Juliband, he seemed to indicate
that there is some better, you know, video and evidence
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out there that we haven't seen yet, And others who
have worked in the government have come out and have
said that before him. But the fact that ARROW now
the new director seems to be much more open than
previous seun Kirk factor that that's encouraging. I mean, the
next couple of years could be really really impressive what
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they release.
Speaker 2 (35:54):
Yeah. Yeah, we will see, we will see. So do
you want to know more about more up close and
personal experiences?
Speaker 4 (36:02):
Well?
Speaker 1 (36:02):
How many have you had? That's what I want to know.
Speaker 2 (36:07):
I'm not really I'm not really sure. And I think
a lot of I mean, there's a whole other fin
hour people are taking all the time. I don't even
know it. Oh maybe he's running a long uh oh
my gosh, I might have I thought he was plugged
in this my batteries running along.
Speaker 1 (36:24):
Do you have access to the wire to the plug?
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Uh? Yeah? Should I go check it real quick?
Speaker 1 (36:32):
I mean, can you can you plug it in now?
Speaker 2 (36:35):
Yeah? Yeah, okay, let's do that just appear for a second.
Speaker 1 (36:38):
Okay, yeah, we're just gonna have to riff here for
a second. So if anybody has any questions and in
the comment section, you know, just let me know.
Speaker 2 (36:47):
The cord got loose.
Speaker 1 (36:48):
It just okay, cool, We're.
Speaker 3 (36:50):
Good now, Yeah, just.
Speaker 2 (36:52):
Just sorry about that. So yeah, so the up close
and personal ones, So.
Speaker 3 (37:03):
Yeah, the one I the one first memorable, kind of
traumatic one that I had was it was only a
few years ago, I think maybe three years ago now,
alas he had been the last few years. And so anyhow,
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I was in bed, sleeping, and I have to kind
of preface this by saying, my husband has a disability
with his back, so he sleeps in the den below
the bedroom where I sleep. I'm upstairs in the bed
by myself, so he's not there, and although I really
wished he was, so one time I was sleeping and
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I hear a wishing sound coming from like the window,
and it wastes me up. And I'm laying in bed
and I see a beam of light come through the
ceiling of the bedroom and it said forty five degree angle.
Speaker 2 (38:02):
But what I really noticed, I don't know why I
noticed it. The light didn't go all the way to
the floor, like stopped before I catching the floor. It's
a weird thing. I noticed it.
Speaker 3 (38:12):
And then at the end of my bed a black
pyramid forms and inside me in my bedroom, in my
bedroom before the bed, And while this is happening, I'm
laying in bed and I'm like, holy Toledo, this is
really hating.
Speaker 2 (38:29):
This is really happening. I'm scared. I'm scared.
Speaker 3 (38:33):
Is you used No, I don't think I used it.
I got beached in one of my other padcasts, so
I kept beeped out.
Speaker 1 (38:45):
I appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (38:49):
So anyhow, I was frozen in terror. I was frozen
in terror. I could not move.
Speaker 3 (38:55):
I see the beam of light, I see the pyramid shape,
and the next thing I know, it's like the entire
bedroom formed into a pyramid and I was like now
inside of it.
Speaker 2 (39:09):
And that was it. I'm sorry. I had to take
a little sip of water here.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
Yeah, and that was it. And then it disappeared or.
Speaker 2 (39:16):
No, I went unconscious. I went unconscious and I woke
up the next day. I don't know how many hours
later actually was. I think it was a few hours
later because.
Speaker 3 (39:27):
I I called my friend Tom because he's a truck
driving drive tonight and I was just hysterical, just hysterical
and Colin and saying, you know, I don't know what happened.
I don't know what happened, but something really huge happened.
And the next day I noticed I noticed I had
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like in hindsight, I had like PTSD symptoms because the
next day I felt like my brain had been scrambled
and I was just pacing around the house. I couldn't
focus on anything. You know, it takes you like twenty
minutes to make a cup of coffee. And yeah, so
I was like just like that for a while. I
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don't know, I don't know what happened. I just know
there was a black pyramid in my bedroom. And I
don't know anyone else that's had that experience. I don't
know what species is connected with a black pyramid, but
that was And also on hindsight a as a psychologist,
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I looked at it.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
The level of fear that I had was not human.
It wasn't human.
Speaker 3 (40:39):
It was totally induced, because the fear can be induced
to im mobilize you and control you.
Speaker 2 (40:45):
And it wasn't even I don't know. It was like
if you see something.
Speaker 3 (40:49):
Scary, you know you're afraid, but this was like just
a level of terror. And the way I compare it
is like when I had the near death experience, you
experience a level of love this human, yeah, you know, and.
Speaker 2 (41:03):
This it was it was just the total opposite, a
level yeah, And I.
Speaker 1 (41:08):
Can kind of understand. So for instance, when you when
we feel something, right, I mean, it involves all parts
of our brains and it affects our physiology, you know,
we feel it. We can induce fear of feeling an
anxiety using sound waves. I mean scientists have done this, okay,
so it's not like, you know, some imaginary thing. So
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if we can do it with sound waves, maybe it
can be done with other kind of like you know,
electromagnetic waves or who knows what I would imagine. I
would imagine, yeah, that like that anxiety and fear, if
it's being caused by an external physical stimulation, that it
would feel different. But if it was just innate from
from from you.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
But then again, like I said, every time I take
my cat to the vet, it was like, okay, I'm
abducting him taking them. Is that what they're doing, just
checking checking up on their you know, I would an experiment,
not really experiment, but I think they really care for us,
and you know, this was a thing in the same
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way they're trying to upgrade us. In the same way
that we try and upgrade cattle to get better meat,
we try to upgrade, upgrade you know, tomatoes and vegetables
to get better grade or you know, resistant to disease
fruits and vegetables, and we do all this stuff, genetically
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modified stuff, and we're upgrading and it's all in the
name of trying to make a better planet, trying to
make better food for us, and and also all the
things that they know how to do now with the
vaccines or you know, preventing illnesses, and I just I
think that's really what's what's going on is there, you know,
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we're like their children, and they're you know, raising us
and trying to make a better human, better planet and
raise our vibration. And that's what I think is this
is part of the ascension process.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
I think that would make sense, especially if they really
are like a much higher not just like emotional, spiritual level,
but like just intellectually that if there are levels above us,
I could see that as kind of like not like pets,
like the way we see pets, but something akin to that,
Like children are you know, don't have fully developed brains,
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So that analogy works too, and it's interesting. Yeah, I mean,
we just inherently as a species, farmers have been cross breeding, hybridizing,
hybridizing you know, plants and wheat strains and cultivating different
varieties and trying to improve them for thousands of years
now and now we're just kind of like in that
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exponential explosion of genetic manipulation, which has I think a
lot of positive but also a lot of unexpected negatives.
Speaker 3 (44:09):
And where do we learn that from? You know, maybe
we learned that from other species.
Speaker 1 (44:16):
Yeah, I hope we learn our lesson from from the
way we've experimented with plants and such, and not go
too crazy with the gene splicing on humans because that
because that's that's inevitable and it's probably within you know,
in the next decade or so where you're going to
have you know, experiments on humans where they're they're going
to want to crisper. I'm using that like a verb.
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I know it's not a verb, but using like technology
to to change our genome and that sort of thing. So,
uh yeah, well, it's not hard to imagine that an
alien species would would be doing that sort of thing
if they are here and now. But then there's the
burden of proof, right, like, how do we how do
we proof that that's actually happening?
Speaker 2 (45:03):
Well, no, no, it's something that can't be proved, that's
for sure.
Speaker 1 (45:08):
But I would imagine it would eventually become a reality, right, Yeah,
if they if they have an end goal, if they
have an intent, then there must be a result, right
that we would see and recognize as well.
Speaker 2 (45:22):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 3 (45:24):
I think that's I think the the intention and the
result is the raising of the vibration of the human
species to unity consciousness, is what I understand from studying
things on the ascension.
Speaker 2 (45:39):
Yeah. And so they also.
Speaker 3 (45:41):
Want us to be part of the Galactic Federation, and
we cannot be a part of that as on as
we are still fighting ours ourselves. It's like we can't
handle the diversity on our own planet, our own along
with just human species and also with you.
Speaker 2 (46:01):
Know, animals. How are we going to handle diversity in
the rest of the universe?
Speaker 3 (46:06):
You know, if we're afraid of each other, you know,
it's you know, one of the reasons they're not gonna
be landing anytime soon.
Speaker 1 (46:14):
I think that's a good If I were them, i'd
probably feel the same way.
Speaker 2 (46:19):
Well, the best analogy I heard was, you know, for
the aliens to land on Earth is like be like
landing in the middle of a sane asylum where all
inmates are armed.
Speaker 1 (46:30):
Yeah. Yeah, and you've heard these theories about prison planet.
I don't necessarily believe that's true. No, I don't believe
that that that this is a prison planet, that.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
We're a young soul planet.
Speaker 3 (46:51):
We are you know, spiritually evalved or like the you know,
compared to other species, we're like in the second or
third grade, you know, we're just getting out of kindergarten.
Speaker 2 (47:02):
So that's one of the analogies that I've heard.
Speaker 1 (47:07):
Yeah, I have a question from Lovely what areas would
you say humans have yet to learn from an et perspective?
That's interesting?
Speaker 3 (47:18):
Well, you know, I don't really know if it can
be learned because for me it was a near death experience.
Speaker 2 (47:22):
But it's it's a unity consciousness. But you don't have to.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
Have a near death experience to practice that we are
all one, to practice the golden rule.
Speaker 2 (47:35):
You know what I do to you, you know, doing
to others?
Speaker 3 (47:38):
Sure, And that's you know, that's why we have these
teachings because we don't understand that we are all one,
because we've chosen to be in this human body and
be separate from God to each other that perception, but
in reality, the bigger reality.
Speaker 2 (47:57):
We are.
Speaker 3 (47:58):
And that's one thing that we we can learn and
and try and practice.
Speaker 1 (48:03):
So you really believe that we choose, like our previous
consciousness form chose to be in this human body.
Speaker 3 (48:13):
Yeah, I wouldn't even be a previous consciousness would be
you know, our higher self now because if you're pretty
familiar probably with life between lives and the work of
Michael Newton and stuff that and Robert Schwartz like to
mention him that that's one of the things. It's just
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a given in spiritual circles that we do choose our
in you know, our challenges in life, our incarnations. And
this is the thing that's it's kind of hard to
understand because we have free will, and the aliens do
respect free will, Beloved, our free will happens before we
even incarnated, you know, so we choose to come.
Speaker 1 (48:57):
So that's an interesting way to look at it.
Speaker 3 (48:58):
I see that, and okay, aliens are abducting me against
my will?
Speaker 2 (49:03):
Are they? Are they?
Speaker 3 (49:04):
Or did I make an agreement before I came here
to the physical body and say look at this is
going to help to raise the consciousness of humanity, Then
I'm all in, do what you gotta do. So, like
I said, there's a kind of whole spiritual aspect to
this too, and it's I just see it from several
different levels.
Speaker 1 (49:27):
Yeah, speaking of functioning consciousnesses. Alien Love, in response to
our coffee comments, says, my poor over coffee can take
twenty minutes. I don't know if that's a special poor
over coffee or it's just the morning routine takes you
twenty minutes to make that coffee. I know, it's kind
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of like the it's a conundrum, right, It's like it
takes I want, I need coffee to get up and
do things, and so I don't have the coffee to
make the coffee. I need to get up and make
the coffee. Have you ever found yourself kind of in
the kitchen walking around like what am I doing?
Speaker 3 (50:10):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (50:10):
Yeah, I'm making a coffee, right.
Speaker 2 (50:11):
Yeah, making a coffee. Yeah. So yeah, did you have
any other questions, some other experiences.
Speaker 1 (50:20):
Or uh no, we have a few minutes left. So
I do want to get your take generally on where
you think the government disclosure side of things are going.
Speaker 2 (50:34):
Don't where I think.
Speaker 3 (50:38):
I think it's it's going to be a grassroots movement.
We can see a hit met already from people, well
the people in government like the whistleblowers that are like,
I've got enough. I'm not I'm not towing your line
any longer. I'm not lying, you know, I'm not gonna
keep covering up your lies. I'm not doing this. And
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this is part of the raising of the consciousness of humanity,
you know. It's it's the old schools on the way
out and the new schools coming in the people that
want the truth, you know. And this is you know,
part of the big thing is free energy. You know,
I just heard I've heard of the truth in Bargo. Now,
I've heard of the energy embargo where you know, the
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government is holding hostage free energy they could be available
to us, but they don't want to because.
Speaker 2 (51:30):
You know, the.
Speaker 3 (51:32):
Powers that be, you know, want the fossil fuels to
make money. So and this is where where I've been
learning that the old school is going to start to
kind of the phase out as people, as people die,
and it's kind of it's going to be a gradual process.
And people that have a higher consciousness, that understand that
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we're all one planet and we're all in this together,
They're like, no, I'm not towing they lie any longer.
So I think that's what's going to happen, and gradually
it's and we are seeing it hamp and it's really
cool to watch.
Speaker 1 (52:05):
Yeah. I mean, if you just look at the the
government and representatives and the government officers, people who are
you know, work for the Defense Department, and I means
you know, Loue Alessandro, Chris Mellen, you know all these people,
Eric Davis, people who've worked closely behind the scenes with
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the government on UAP are more and more of them.
We're trying to push disclosure and I think, you know,
we have a whole new class of congress people that
are much more open minded to it and also tired
of the cover up as well. And I think that's
that is the kind of changing of the guard over time,
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Like you know, some people are retiring, moving on, and
you have new blood coming in with a different mindset.
Speaker 3 (52:56):
Right turnover, the people have your own You're getting better
and better people. It's yeah, it's it's a gradual process,
but we're watching it happen.
Speaker 1 (53:07):
We are, Yeah, and I think we're moving towards that
tipping point where you kind of just get to that
critical mass and then there's no stopping it, you know,
there's just enough people behind the scenes, whether it's in
the clandestine side of military operations, secret access programs, you know,
Department of Defense, and the government representatives, that collective eventually
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will tip completely and I don't know when, but I
suspect it in the next like five to ten years
or something like that.
Speaker 3 (53:34):
The huge thing that they're ignoring that Oather's KNT. They're
not even discussing cantake d's and millions of people that
are and the government knows about it. They get their
their phones tapped, you know, they're watching them, you know,
and everything else, so they know who is contd. They
know everything about everybody and they're watching them. To me,
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there should be government program to help contact ees because
of the mental health issues that come with it. So
that would be one thing that I would, you know,
love to push forth. Government grants. You've got government grants
for every everything, now, why not. They're the ones that
are kind of covering this all up and not even
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acknowledging that there's a huge problem not only in our
country but on the planet. And because it's a worldwide
phenomenon that people need support groups and and just other
like minded people to get together and understand and that
they're not alone, and that they are living in different
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levels of reality, which is difficult, you know when when
you're you're fully conscious on a planet that is mostly unconscious.
So that's you know, there's a social aspect to that.
Speaker 1 (54:57):
Yeah, I think that if we get disclosure, then at
that point, I think the government would be willing to
have that conversation. But even recently, we were watching the
news about these drones that are being seen in Jersey
and it was odd that the newscasters, you know how
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they kind of snicker a little bit sometimes already talk
about UFOs, but they were doing the same snickering with drones,
and I thought, what a strange behavior, because this is
our airspace and these are they're caught on camera, we
have videos of these things. It's very real, and they
were kind of uncomfortably laughing ish about it. And I thought,
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you know, if they can't even handle talking about drones
in our airspace, forget about UFOs. And I think that
I think it would be too much of a leap
for the government to just come out now and say, hey,
we're taking the alien abduction phenomena hereously. I think that
they first have to reveal without a shadow of a doubt,
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here's the evidence that we've got this thing is there.
These are extraterrestrials here on earth. Once that door is open,
then everyone else will go, well, okay, well if that's possible,
then this might be possible to it. And then I
think we can have that other conversation. Yeah, nationally, Mary,
if you can leave us with one thought, what would
(56:25):
it be?
Speaker 2 (56:27):
Oh geez, I was hoping to talk about the Buffalo Bills. Yeah,
co builds.
Speaker 1 (56:36):
I mean, you can plug the Bills anytime, but do
you want to briefly talk about that?
Speaker 3 (56:41):
Yeah. I wrote a story in my book Breakfast and Overs,
two stories about the Buffalo Bills, and I dedicated the
book to them and the Bills Mafia and the Fabulous
Fans because because the Bills are are an inspirational phenomenon,
and I was inspired to write it if they lost
the playoffs last year, because everyone was grown in and
(57:03):
complaining and angry about it, and I'm like, wait a minute,
they just gave us like six months of entertainment and
bringing our family and friends together. So they really are
an inspirational phenomenon and and we learned from them. Because
it's like life is like a football game. It's full
of penalties and injuries and draft kicks, but we, like
(57:24):
the players, we have to keep getting up over and
over and over again.
Speaker 2 (57:28):
So I wrote this story.
Speaker 3 (57:30):
And because there's a lot of Buffalo Bill's fans in
our area and shout out to the Bill's Mafia, the
and Bill's bankers all over the world.
Speaker 2 (57:44):
Because they raised money for charity.
Speaker 3 (57:46):
And another way you could raise money for charity is
with the books they have purchased Breakfast with Bluebirds. Part
of that money goes to the Gifts of Grace Ministry
and the comment section thank you yeah, and also of
the Hermitage in Indianapolis. My friend, father Justin Belize, wrote
(58:07):
the forward to the book. He's a Franciscan priest and
unfortunately he passed away before it was published, so some
of the proceeds will go to his charity too, So
I'm hoping, I think. And the book was written at
for people that are struggling going through a difficult time.
There's a lot of different stories in there, lessons learned
(58:28):
about life, death, life after death, angels, miracles, aliens. Great
present for anyone for a Bill Span or anyone that's
going through a hard time this Christmas Breakfast with Bluebirds
and it's available on Amazon.
Speaker 2 (58:44):
Thank you so much.
Speaker 1 (58:45):
Yeah, I mean, who doesn't want to have Breakfast with
Bluebirds anyway? Yeah, thank you so much.
Speaker 3 (58:50):
Mary.
Speaker 1 (58:50):
It's so great to have you on Coffee and UFOs.
And very quickly, I want to share with everybody out there.
I was going to post something on social media, didn't
get around to doing it, so I'll just share with
the now. So I am indefinitely discontinuing the Mystic Lounge
podcast and we'll be focusing solely on the Coffee and
UFOs podcast up right here. So if you're a fan
(59:12):
of this podcast, you know, please share your thoughts, comment
review wherever you listen to your podcasts, if you can
review there, that would be super super appreciated because that
really helps as well. So, you know, there's just the
UFO topic has grown so big, Mary at this point
that it's like I can't spread my bandwidth, you know,
in too many directions, so it's easier to just focus
(59:35):
on on the UFO topic, which is really the core
you know, paranormal if you.
Speaker 3 (59:41):
Know, one of the biggest things happening in the history
of humanity, that it's all tied in with the shift
to the fifth dimension. They're all it's all tied in there,
and I think they're going to disclose before the government does.
Speaker 2 (59:52):
It might just show up and then they can't deny
it any longer.
Speaker 1 (59:56):
Well, I mean a lot of people suspect that that, yeah,
that might actually occur.
Speaker 2 (01:00:00):
And they have showed up for millions of people. You know,
they're already here.
Speaker 1 (01:00:05):
Yeah, yeah, Mary, thank you so much for your time.
I really really appreciate you.
Speaker 2 (01:00:09):
Thank you. This has been just a blessing and h
on my bucket list. I just really thank you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:14):
I wanted to be in Coffees and UFOs and I'm
very very very Anderdale and keep up the great work.
Speaker 2 (01:00:20):
You're doing a great job.
Speaker 1 (01:00:22):
Thank you, Mary. And I'm honored that you came to
Coffee and UFOs with coffee.
Speaker 2 (01:00:26):
Yes, yeah, good coffe.
Speaker 1 (01:00:27):
All right, all right, And thank you everybody for jumping
in tonight. Maria Wilson, thank you for uh staying up
later than normal to hang out with us. Who really
appreciate that. And your comments and your questions were great,
so always appreciated this podcast. Coffee and UFOs is now
rebroadcast on the UNEX network eleven pm Pacific time and
(01:00:49):
two am Eastern Time on Friday nights. So yeah, if
you're an early morning or a late night person on
the East coast two am, you can re catch the
broadcast and then of course the podcast will be rebroadcast
or posted as a podcast tomorrow morning, so you can
catch that there. Yeah, So here we are. It's another
(01:01:11):
change of the podcasts set up as we move forward.
I would really love to hear like your thoughts. If
you have guest suggestions, topic suggestions, please email me or
leave them down below. So for the email, you can
email me at Mystic Underscore Lounge at aol dot com,
(01:01:32):
or you can DM me on Instagram, which is now
at Coffee and UFOs Podcast, Blue Sky at Coffee and
UFOs Podcast, and then on Facebook there's the Coffee and
UFOs group that you can join and share your stories
and experiences there as well. So that's it everyone, Thank
(01:01:52):
you so much for another great night and until next time,
I'll see you. On the flip side, it's good to
be in personally.
Speaker 2 (01:02:07):
I wish more of us would think of ourselves that way.
Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
I don't have a problem with skeptics.
Speaker 2 (01:02:16):
It's the bunkers that are on some other level that
I don't.
Speaker 4 (01:02:19):
Understand, especially an inference of a change in local gravity.
Speaker 2 (01:02:47):
Saucer shaped craft and they're hovering over the water.
Speaker 1 (01:02:58):
A little bit. Special reports for attain. The better the
quality of the sighting, the more likely to be unexplainable.
M
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