CWK Show #807: Skeleton Crew- “The Real Good Guys"

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Andy Kutiers from star Wars dot Com and
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
This is the podcast you're looking for. These are serious violations.

Speaker 3 (00:09):
I got to see firsthand just how troublesome they could
be on our little adventure home.

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We made it.

Speaker 4 (00:23):
Come on, I thought the married jammed or communication.

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Not if you have the crystal of the Founders that
we discover guarded by an ancient warrior, do.

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We win.

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Ye?

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One of my batter landings.

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That is.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
This is Vanessa Marshall Harrison Dula from Star Wars Rebels
and you're listening to Coffee with Kenoby.

Speaker 4 (00:56):
Hello, friends, and welcome to Coffee with Kenoby. I am
your host Dan's They are absolutely delighted to talk to
Star Wars with you. But it's not just any Star Wars.
We are talking about the eighth and final episode of
season one of Skeleton Crew, and I say we If
you've been listening to the show for the past few months,

(01:16):
you know that I've got too copiled too. Join me
to talk about Skeleton Crew and they're gonna Circle of Wagons.
That's more of a country Western thing, Country Western thing
than it is a part thing, but you get the
idea Lauris are gonna bring in Tom Gross.

Speaker 2 (01:32):
Well, hello everybody, it's great to be back on the show.
Two I mean geez, eight eight shows. Yeah, time to
talk about the final episode.

Speaker 4 (01:45):
The final episode Tom of Courses from Teachers in the Dungeon.
Tom got some male fan mail. It appears that you're
passing the Coffee with Kenobi audition. It's a very lengthy process,
but you're doing just fine. That's good. Good to hear you'll.
You might notice by the way that Wikipedia the excellent

(02:08):
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Now there's a huge writeup. I just posted it in
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But it references you as a former contributor because of

(02:30):
your contributions on as the newsman.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
Oh nice, that's fun, and that is fun.

Speaker 4 (02:37):
Yeah, pretty cool. Our next guest, he's not really a
guest anymore. He's family. He's part of the team. He's
part of the Coffee with Kenoby family. He has been
for a long time. But we've had the pleasure of
you being on the show with us for these last
few months. It's been a joy and a privilege. Let's
bring in Father Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Great to be back, and it's truly been my pleasure
talking with such great guys over such a great series.
And now that I know of Tom's Wikipedia fame, I
have new goals and heights to strive for for myself.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
Yes, well those are very very ambitious. But we have
faith in you, all right, So we're gonna do it.
We're gonna talk about the real good guys. I will
read the official synopsies on Star Wars dot Com. Back
home on at Aton, Wim, Fern, KB, and Neil I've

(03:32):
been reunited with their families, but face a dangerous threat
in Jod, who continues to pose as a Republic emissary.
With Fern and her mother trapped in the Supervisor's tower
with Jod, it's up to KB, Neil, Wim, and his
dad Wendell to stop a pirate invasion from taking over
their home. Don't Father Jimmy, We'll have you kick it

(03:54):
off for us. Give us one word. In overall reactions
to the episode.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
My one word was finally, and not because it's the finale.
But I feel like they wrapped up a lot of
things well, and there are lots of moments where I
literally kind of had audible gasps and shouts of finally,
Like there are so many great moments that that wrapped up,

(04:20):
and I just thought like, oh, yeah, they finally talked
about this or cleared up that or other great moments.
So that's why I chose finally.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Excellent Tom, you know the real Yes adventure is my word.
What a marvelous conclusion to a tale of good in
the galaxy? I think, you know, in this episode, we
we get a a oh, what is trying to think

(04:52):
of the word, but we get we get a final
I guess I'll use your word, father, Jimmy. Finally we
get sort of a rap on the oh how we
feel about these characters, Like I feel complete and I
feel like we know. I mean when you're talking about
you know, it's funny how everyone seems to know. Well,
we finally know everything that we need to know about

(05:14):
all of these characters, I think, And so we fall
we fall in love with the children, and they're just
so much fun and being kids kind of makes us
feel like kids. Oh and then John or maybe I
should say, Jude Law, what what an amazing performance? I

(05:36):
mean a curtain raising performance. So maybe maybe I have
a new favorite character, top five character in the Star
Wars Galaxy.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
Wow. Wow, that's uh, that's great, that's great. I'm looking
forward to unpacking that with the both of you. Yeah.
So for me, I'm gonna give you my word, but
I'm going to preface it first. Think, a good story
has to have compelling characters that you care about. It
has to have the beginning, which is the uh, you know,

(06:13):
the inciting incident is where everything happens. You've got your exposition,
you've got rising action, a number of things happen. Then
you've got that climax, most intense emotional moment of the story.
You've got the falling action. And then you've got which
is my one word, de new ma. De new ma
is a French word meaning resolution. This story sets things up,

(06:37):
gives a lot of obstacles, and resolves all of the
plot threads. This, friends, is how you tell a story.
And I loved this finale. Think of finale. It's hard
to do. I think there are very very few series, movies, epics,

(06:58):
books that actually have set us flying conclusions where you
cross the t's and dot the eyes in a way
that doesn't feel forced but feels like an organic part
of the story. So danium is my word. Nice, very
very happy to talk. All right, father, Jimmy, go ahead

(07:18):
and kick it off for us with your first thing.
You first point of interest for our for the real
good guys.

Speaker 1 (07:28):
Guess one of my first points of interest. And it's
just a It was just kind of fun seeing one
the way that all the families got back together after
that initial moment in the very beginning. Once they're all
reunited but they kind of split up, they go home.

(07:49):
It was good to see Whim and his dad. It
was good to see just sort of how they all
were back home, but you could tell it wasn't quite
home yet because the kids were aware of this threatening
of pirates kind of beyond the vision of other people.
And so I just thought that was a good way
to ease back into it, especially once you had at

(08:10):
the same time, Fern and her mother are now trapped
with the supervisor and job and in that situation, so
they're definitely not home, they're definitely in a difficult spot.
I just thought that was an interesting beginning I liked
it where some are back home, some are kind of

(08:32):
appearing to be the conclusion of their journey, but the
kids know deep down what's really going on, and they
find the right opportunity to bring it up.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
I think that brings so much of what we've talked
about throughout this entire series. The one thing that really
stands out. There's several things, but one just right at
the top of my head is how we talked about
those security droids and how they are basically walking cameras.
I don't know about you, but I felt like that

(09:03):
was hyper sensitive in this one, especially when WiM's talking
to his father and the droids like right there, why
don't you pull up a seat, mate, and if they're like,
he's watching a tennis match, and so that really hung heavy.
But the other thing I found interesting about that whole
sequence is is they we know from episode one what

(09:26):
their daily routine is and what things look like in
their homes in a normal circumstance, and here they try
to go back to some semblance of that. But so
much has changed, notably your walking cameras in the room,
but so much has changed between the relationships between the
parents and the kids and the growth that the kids

(09:50):
have had, and I just think it's it's shown so much.
And of course there's the elephant in the room with
they have something to say, but they can't to say it.

Speaker 4 (10:02):
I love that you said the elephant in the room
because we got to see Neil's dad and he had tusks.
Isn't that so cool? The cool spacis Yeah. By the way,
my one word I had forgotten it, and I'm glad
I didn't kick it off because it would have been
too silly. But my one ward is going to be
bathtub like. Neil's got to be the cleanest creature in

(10:23):
Star Wars. He's sudsing it up man, middle of the night,
doesn't matter, he's ready. It's squeaky clean.

Speaker 1 (10:33):
I thought that was such a a fitting place for
Neil once the power shut down and everything kind of
came to a head, because he's been he's had such
an innocent, such a purity, such a cleanness to him. Yes, yeah,
and there's just such a like childlike thing about like
how the bubbles were you know.

Speaker 4 (10:56):
Yeah. When he's the most loving character, one of the
most lovely characters in Star Wars, there is a cleanness
to him for actually, yes, I agree. Sorry, I didn't
mean to cut you off if you were.

Speaker 1 (11:08):
Oh no, that's okay. I was just saying with on
one hand, was very childlike with how big the bubbles
were around him, but then you could tell once the
power went out and he could tell something was going on,
he had a bit more of an awareness, like, yes,
there's still that very pure and clean and childlike nature
to Neil, but he's he's grown, he's matured, and he's

(11:30):
ready to spring into action if needed, and.

Speaker 4 (11:33):
He's very heroic in this. Aren't you just positive the dead?
How Tom takes a bath? Aren't you just positive of that?

Speaker 2 (11:42):
That's why I think it's so funny, you know, reality
is the funniest thing that possibly.

Speaker 4 (11:47):
Yes, well, what is Tom? What is the first one
you'd like to bring up that isn't around the SuDS?

Speaker 2 (11:53):
Mister bubbles? Okay, yeah, let's see. Of course you have.
I'm sure you know who I wanted to talk about first,
and probably second and probably third, and that is Jod.
So let's talk about his opening scene. First of all,
it ends episode seven, igniting the lightsaber in front of

(12:13):
the families after not long before that, show wise, he
talks about carving people up and into pieces, and we
talked about that despicable just rant he has with the
kids and how scary that was. And so the end
of the show, episode seven, you're just you're in terror
for that family. So that's how I felt when this

(12:36):
whole thing started. But it makes complete sense the way
it went because rather than violence and rather than threatening,
Jod returns to his oratorical skills and his charisma like
he did with the Pirates numerous times, and now we're
going to see it in a new light. He gets

(12:58):
to play a new character. He's now the republic emissary
and Joe. So I just think it's it's really interesting
and well placed that this is how he's also going
to attempt to deal with the parents the same way
he deals with anyone who's trying to trick, as well

(13:20):
as the Pirates themselves. So my first point is Jod
and his amazing rhetorical and charismatic self.

Speaker 4 (13:32):
Yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna make this mine my first one,
and I mean it's gonna build upon what you're saying,
maybe throw a couple of different ideas and see what
you think. But to me. We were pretty vocal and
rightfully so, about how much he upset us, how unsettling
he was to threaten children with violence, with cruelty, and

(13:53):
with the threat of losing their families, which is the
worst thing you can do to a child in my opinion.
It's just just scary, very scary. And then you see
the sabergneity. But then when this starts, Jad does what
I didn't expect. He made me rethink him a little bit,

(14:14):
and we're gonna see that, especially at the end. But
in this moment I realized, and I could be wrong,
but I thought, Okay, he's not ignita lightsaber to uh
because he's gonna enact violence, but he is still threatening it.
Let's not be Let's be clear. He's not you know,
no one's having Jod as their babysitter, no one, no

(14:36):
good parent would do that. But what he is doing
with the lightsabers, he's using light to add credibility to
his story. Look on the Republican amissary, I got a lightsaber. Hey,
check me out. That is his badge, that is his identification,
and they go with it. It doesn't feel right because
I think there's an energy there that shows us that
there's something off and in the parents or astute. The

(14:59):
kids are really uncomfortable. They do not seem to relieved at
all in there, and the parents know their kids. But
he's just trying to assert himself and approve himself. And
then we see throughout the episode he still does violent things,
he still destroys property. But when Kb's appears is going

(15:20):
to crash, he puts his head down and he's like,
he's he's sad. He doesn't want that child to die.
And it wasn't an act. He could have gloated or
twitched his mustache or been sociopathic, but no, there's more
to him than that. So I fully embrace and respect

(15:41):
what the storytellers did, certainly with the exceptional jew Law
did with his character, and to remind us that I
think we need to always be reminded of as people,
as flawed human beings, that there is always more to
a person than what you see on the outside. Does
that mean we like everything they do? Definitely not. Does
that mean to approve, absolutely not? But there's more, there's more,

(16:05):
And that's one of the reasons I love teaching literature
because to me, it's the only subject where you are
teaching empathy, and I learned a little bit about empathy
from Jod, not from job, but from how I flicked
at Jod.

Speaker 1 (16:22):
I thought it was one thing about Jod and his
choices with his charisma that I found interesting was with
the pirates, with some of the other times where he
would interact and play these characters. It was it was
very charismatic, very often jovial and kind of sweet sounding.
But when he was the emissary, he and fittingly so,

(16:45):
employed a much more kind of stern demeanor, Like he
was very insistent that they needed to get back on
the ship, and he had reasons, and he could kind
of read the room well and still came off like
an emissary, but kind of a no nonsense kind of boss,
you know, to try to work to his advantage and

(17:05):
take control of the situation, just to see those different
ways that he can act and fool people and so
quickly and instantly take on a new persona in order
to trick people.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
And the more that he yelled, the more frustrated he got,
the more he threatened, the less bite he had. I
found that to be pretty realistic. He was like a
disgruntled frustrated parent that has no control of his children
or the situation and the reac and instead of trying
to find a way to relate, he raised his voice
and he got more angry and frustrated. But he did,

(17:44):
let's beekle, he did shoot it at a window. He
did shoot it at a whims father. So I mean
he's not I don't think he's I think maybe he's
a bad shot. Maybe he's a stormtrooper. But I don't know.
I think he's so complex now, and I'm really I'm
really happy about that. I'm really excited about that.

Speaker 1 (18:02):
I'll have to go back and watch those shots at
the end, because I I didn't really find John's reaction
to seeing that ship go down. I didn't quite read
it in the same way that you did, Dan. I
just sort of read some indifference when he was oh see, yeah.

Speaker 4 (18:23):
I thought it was bummed. I thought he was sad
and he was frustrated too, because I don't think he
wanted these kids to die, and I think he tries
to place blame, but I think he knows, deep, deep
down inside that he had something to do with that. Yeah,
I read a lot. I don't know. I wonder what
do you think, Tom.

Speaker 2 (18:41):
I saw it like you did, Dan, I thought I
thought he felt to me, I felt like there was disappointment, yes,
And I'm not exactly sure that's That's what I had
a hard time reading of. It is what or who
was he disappointed in himself, the kids, the situation, the

(19:02):
you know. I mean it could have even been I
suppose disappointment and that this is all happening and keeping
him from his ultimate goal or the goal that he
thinks he has. But I saw it that way too.
I saw some remorse and what I thought was maybe
even a little sadness in there, because he he's like,

(19:22):
go look, go look, you know, he doesn't say look
for yourself and what you've done. It wasn't like that.
It was it was no, it was almost like, this
is your last chance to see your friend. I don't know,
I might be looking a little further into it than
I originally intended to, but I definitely felt for him

(19:43):
in that moment.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
And he also continues to emphasize and he does in
this one too. He said it several times through this season,
talked about being hungry and what was he really he
was scared, he was alone, he saw somebody cared about killed.
It certainly changed who he is, changed his genetic makeup
of how he makes decisions about how he views the world.

(20:07):
And I think at the end we see at the
end he might have all this wealth. Well maybe who
knows what's going to happen when and how he escapes
if he escapes all but he's alone. I really think
this is a guy looking for family and he doesn't
know how to ask. Often what we want the most,
sometimes we have a really hard time asking for it

(20:29):
or knowing how to get it. And I think it
makes it really interesting.

Speaker 1 (20:35):
I think, Dan, what you just said with him being
alone really reminded me of I think it's the second
episode when they're leaving Kim's planet or moon whatever she
was on and third okay, sorry, the third Yeah, and
the kids are kind of blocking the way on the
ship when the X Wings are coming and they kind

(20:56):
of confront Job and kind of for him to come clean,
and and he says something about being alone also being
like them in that And I remember from what you
were saying when I was watching that third episode, I
remember that line and thinking to myself, that might have
been the only true thing he said, like the way

(21:18):
it was acted and portrayed, you could tell there's lots
of layers of deceit, But the way that came across
with the acting was that he was alone and that
part was honest and sincere, and that's carried through the
whole time.

Speaker 4 (21:34):
And we had no way of knowing that then. So
that's that's another reason why I think this is such
a well told story, because they are connecting and just
and I'd forgotten about that speech. So the I'm glad
you brought that up father to me. There's all those
those threads, these connective tissues, and it's really it's really amazing,
So well done. All right, father, Jimmy, your next.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
One, Oh my next one. I want to talk about
kind of right after the lights go out and the
kids kick into gear and they contact each other and
they formulate a plan and they get back on those
hover bikes. From the beginning and at first, and this

(22:17):
was one of those first times I was getting really
amped and kind of the audible side came out even
though I was sitting by myself, and you know, especially
when Whim's dad, Wendell, gets on his own bike to
track him down, that was such a just I was
so excited, you know, I was so excited for that

(22:38):
moment because I think it was really starting to show
not just the growth from the children, but Wendell's growth
and trusting his son, seeing his son and seeing him
not just like trusting his son, but also trusting his
own parenting in a new way, like Wendell is now
parenting along in this adventure and this journey again with

(23:01):
these ties back into other moments from early episodes. They
take the same jump and cut through the woods, and
that part was just a very it was a very fun, fun,
adventurous moment.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Tom.

Speaker 1 (23:15):
Back to your your word that that adventure, I was.
I was so stoked at that one. Uh, if you're
it was listening to this, can't see me pumping my
fists in the air while I'm recalling this, but.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
You can hear it.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (23:29):
On stars dot Com they say that the creators intended
that to be an homage to ET, but things came
on the bikes how perfect.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
I had the same kind of feelings that you did
when they were all racing on those bikes, and I
love that. I did not make a connection to ET.
But boy, when you say that now I'm like, oh, yeah,
that is so true. There's something you said that really
resonated with me, though, and that is the change in
the father and Whim's Wendell and Whim's relationship. I would

(24:05):
I would argue that I feel like I had a
connection to Wendell in this episode because I will never
forget when I went from being and I think it
was it was just my children pasted a line age
wise and maturity wise where I stopped being like the
person in charge and I started being a partner in

(24:27):
their in their growth. And I felt like he he
has made he being Wendell has made that transition that Okay,
I'm gonna listen to my son, I'm gonna hear what
he has to say. And I felt like that really
kind of came about in that in that tennis match
conversation that they had at the table, when I think

(24:48):
he has Wendell has the realization that Okay, Wim has
something here, and he ends with, well, that's that's what
the supervisor's here to save us from. And he said
that as a line just to keep the droid, you know, neutral,
and he knew exactly what he was doing with women,

(25:08):
so I felt like he had that he had that
shift in parenting that that was cool because then he
gets on it's you know, he gets onto the bike
with this kid and is a kid himself again, and
I just I don't know, I'm with you. That was
a really cool sequence of events.

Speaker 4 (25:26):
It's why it's one on my lists because I think
when you were when you were a parent and you
have a child that goes way to college for the
first time, the first time they come back and Tom,
you'll witness this soon enough. The first time they come back,
you instantly can't help but just put them back and

(25:47):
how they were before they moved out. It just it's
just human nature just happens. There may be some parents
don't do that, but we I mean, I feel like
I was sort of in that headspace. But there is
that delineative moment where you realize, oh my gosh, they've
seen things, they've experienced, the world they they've they're different
now they're grown up. Now one's just still a kid.

(26:09):
But the things he's been exposed to, different worlds, different planets.
He's seen violence, people tried to kill him. He's at
heartbreak with you know, in confusion with friends, he's a
different person. He's he's got experience well beyond his years,
and I really think that resonated so beautifully and they
and they only really show us with that family, So

(26:32):
I really like that, and I agree it's like Wendel
has becomes a kid. Briefly. You almost get the sense
he never really what did ever get to be a kid?
Because of this planet and its expectations and obligations and
you know, passing your exams and now you're a seventh
level supervisor and all this kind of stuff. So it's
almost like he got to relate. And you know, when

(26:54):
you're when your kids get older, they're still your kids,
but like you said, you're not in charge of them.
You you live life with them, and they become like
your friends. Now they're not there yet age wise, but
there is that moment where they're like, we're not equals,
but we're kind of equals here. And it was really
it was great. This this show does so beautifully. It
really taps into what makes I think Star Wars great

(27:16):
or a good story, something we respond to, and it
encapsulates real human dynamics and relationships and conflicts, but does
it under the lens of a fictional universe, and that's
why we respond to it so beautifully.

Speaker 2 (27:32):
It's oh, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (27:34):
I'm just going to continue the theme with these relationship
and with the parents, and I feel like especially we
saw that growth with I think all the sets of parents.
I think it was most most evident with women and Wendell,
and maybe least evident with Neil and his parents, but

(27:54):
with his name I'm missing.

Speaker 4 (27:59):
Yeah, oh, I get for you. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
We we see them their growth as as mother and
daughter in the situation they find themselves in. When when
Carrie realized, sorry, when when KB realizes she can fly
the ship and get the message out, her parents trust
that she'll be okay, where they were worried about her

(28:24):
health before. And like I said, Neil's parents we didn't
see it as much, but we also see that I
think they had three other kids that they got to
protect and look out little ones. Yeah, little little little elephant,
elephant teenies or whatever you want to call baby elephant.
And so they almost in the sense they they had

(28:49):
they had to take on that parenting responsibility of much
more of a protector because they had little ones, whereas Neil,
Neil was capable of handling on his own, even even
if it meant jumping out of the bubble bath?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
Did you ever think you would say that sentence on
a podcast, father, Jim?

Speaker 2 (29:10):
Never? Never?

Speaker 4 (29:12):
This is it? If this is the last Joe I ever? Do?
I feel like that's a good one to end on now,
it's I mean interrupted, but it's fair. That's that's the
mom and she they definitely kind of go through their
own thing too, where she turns against everything that she's
believed in by destroying the barrier because she knows it's
going to save her her family. And that was that

(29:33):
was her very much turning against the structure and of
the society, which you know, society is not bad. You
need to have society needs, you need structure, you need
you need that. But this was a different thing and
there this is all about connect reconnecting these families to
each other in a in a substantive way.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
I guess I could go to my second Yeah, my
second point, because it's it's going to build on this
a little bit, and so I want to continue talking
about Fern and Farah. I felt like everything you've said
about Farah on but I felt like she really kind
of flaked out when they went up to the supervisor's

(30:20):
you know, a control room, and she just sort of
lost herself and she became almost worthless. But Fern, she
really changed things, and you know her. Her mother says
the barrier was supposed to protect you from things like this,
and Fern turns to her and says, we have to

(30:43):
do something about it. Yeah, the galaxy is scary and dangerous.
Everywhere we went, even the worst places, there were good
people too, people who can help us. I thought was
a beautiful, beautiful speech that you would expect to come
from the parent to the child, but here it went

(31:04):
the other way. But so so that I thought was
a wonderful moment, But it became even more wonderful, wonderful
when I think our word last show was a juxtaposition
because not long after that, back to Jod, he shares

(31:25):
his he shares his sort of origin story with them.
When he's he's talking about you know, Wim says, you lied,
You're no Jedi, You're the real Now. The real good
guys are coming, Jod, Nobody's coming to save you boy,
which I thought that word boy was really strong.

Speaker 4 (31:44):
Grow up.

Speaker 2 (31:46):
And then we get his story when I was your age, starving,
lived in a hole until a Jedi found me. So
now we're starting to head to the juxtaposition with of Farah,
not Pharah Fern's story. She may have been as desperate

(32:09):
as I was, and she told me I had potential,
and he only taught She only taught me a little
before they hunted her down and they made me watch
while they killed her. That's the galaxy.

Speaker 4 (32:22):
M hmm.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Fern just said there's bad places, but there's good everywhere
we went. But but Jod wasn't willing to see that
as hope. He only saw the pin pricks of light,
and he's willing to kill for that light. I just
when I saw, when I heard those two statements, almost

(32:47):
side by side, I just couldn't help but notice how
different these two, the kids and Fern specifically and Jod
see the galaxy, even though you know they've traveled to
many of the same different places. Now you know they've
been to the Pirate Cove or space station, they've been
to Kim's world. That you know, they've been all these

(33:09):
places together. Even the other I forguet what it is,
but the other at Aten where it's awful, it was
terrible It's like it's like a Hunger Games dystopian awful place,
and Fern still sees the good where God sees the bad.
And I think it's just the first two steps. He's

(33:31):
opened himself up, Jod has And this is where I started.
I don't know, I started feeling I think what you're saying,
Dan started feeling bad for the guy in some ways,
you know, not completely. I don't even know if that's
what it is. Is it you mentioned empathy earlier, Maybe
that's what I was feeling because I was so angry

(33:53):
about him and at him at the end of episode
seven because of what he did to them, and you
engines something earlier in the word that came to my
mind when you're talking about that, like the impact it
has on children. I think we call that trauma, and
so it was very traumatic. If I were one of
the kids, it would have been a very traumatic moment

(34:15):
and one I would never forget.

Speaker 4 (34:17):
But here I.

Speaker 3 (34:18):
Am, in the very next moments starting to feel kind
of bad for him. So anyway, my point that I
wanted to bring up was the juxtaposition of the perception
of the galaxy from Jodd's point of view and from
Fern's point of view.

Speaker 4 (34:35):
And the way that he sells those lines. And at
the end of the last shot we see of him,
he's not nefarious and again mustache twitching, like he has
experienced more trauma than any of them. And you know,
hurt people, hurt people. We know this to be true.
So he has hurt people, He's taken life. I think

(34:58):
he sees and when he says boy, I think he
resents that boy in that moment because he didn't get
to be a boy. I think he resents that he
lost his childhood through his experience. And maybe you don't
have enough to make an educated guest on this, but

(35:18):
I think there's enough there to really take kind of
take a step back and see, this is a hurt
kid who grew up to be someone who hurt people.
And you don't excuse it, and you don't understand it,
and you don't dismiss it. He should pay for his crimes.
But there is that part of you that sees if

(35:39):
he was back in the day, these would have been
the kid of the young alt. These would have been
his friends. You know, they took him into their home
that the Onyx Sinder, and he was their protector, like
you mentioned Father Jimmy about the parent aspect of Wendell,
and then he became their oppressor, and then he just
became helpless, like when everything was going out and the

(36:00):
pirates are showing up, and I mean, he was happy
to be in charge, but he wasn't there in the chaos.
He wasn't committing any chaos or atrossies. He was letting
it happen. So he's not He's still culpable, but I
got the sense he lost control there of the situation,
and nowhere wasn't more apparent that when kb's ship was
going down. And that again is why I think he's
so fascinating, because he's he's you just can't pin one

(36:24):
thing on him. There's there's just so much more to it.
It's really great stuff. All Right, I'm last my next one.
It might be my last one. I don't know. I
feel like you guys are bringing up things that was
bringing board to a lot of great conversations. I love
this sequence at the end of there are two B
wings that show up and they extend all four of

(36:47):
their laser points and they do this blasted concentration of
laser cannon fire that that specific type of shooting or
laser weaponry in a be wing. You only saw in
one thing in Conical Stars, and that's the Blade Wing.
It was from the Star Wars Rebels episode I think
from season two. Ton. That's actually the first time you

(37:08):
were ever on coffee with Kenoby. I remember when we
talked about that, and this was Corey is the name
of the guys he's named after. He's a he's a Monklamari,
but he's named after Ralph McCrory, of course does all
the concept art for the original Star Wars films. And
these weapons and I may or may not have written

(37:30):
something about this, but there are these weapons are higher
profile weapons, and I always got the sense, I don't
know if it's for sure that the other b wings
didn't use them Return of the Jedi because they didn't
have them, or maybe they didn't reach didn't see it.
There is one motion at the intert of the Jedi
where there's an extra special azed weapon. But these things

(37:52):
are super high power. So it was really fun to
see from Star Wars Rebels showing up here that weapon
and I love that. Also. Let's let's talk about the Supervisor,
the big reveal of the supervisor. What before I kind
of get my thoughts and I have some ideas here.

(38:14):
What did you guys expect and how did you feel
when you saw that the supervisor was basically a big droid.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
It was one of the things that I had in
mind last episode at the last episode we recorded, where
I had some theories and some thoughts moving into the finale,
and it was pretty high up there in my mind
that the supervisor is going to be a droid, and

(38:42):
but done in a way that they left these kind
of little breadcrumbs throughout and then sure one of the
last things that one of the things John says towards
the end of an ultimate episode when he's like, yes,
let's go talk to the supervisor. At least it won't
be a droid. I was like, it's going to be
a droid.

Speaker 2 (39:06):
I kind of felt like the supervisor, I don't know.
I was I really was trying. I took a lot
from the other planet, where there was nothing that implied
that there was a droid in that room that had
the coordinates of the other planets, and so there's a
part of me that kind of felt like we're going
to have to pay no attention to the man behind

(39:27):
the curtain thing, a totally inept person who hides behind
this quote supervisory type of mirror or image or illusion.
And I thought it was going to be highly disappointing
to Farah and even for his dad, that this is

(39:50):
the guy that's been like driving us and leading us.
So clearly I was I was way wrong, unless there's
someone like that behind this droid that we don't know
about out but but so clearly I was wrong. But
I found the supervisor to be wildly interesting, especially the

(40:12):
way in which and I don't know if this may
lead to someone else's points, but especially the way in
which he tricks job or Jod just completely fails into
admitting he's lying.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
It's hard not to think of Palpatine at the end here,
especially in Mason. I'll give Mason credit. When we were watching,
he said, I think it is Palpatine going to be
the supervisor, because when they show the room, there's all
these like like cables and wiring and all this stuff
that almost looks like at the beginning of the Rise

(40:50):
of Skywalker. Even the voice, which wasn't Ian McDermid kind
of back with that. And there's even a line where
he says something about watch changed something with great interest,
and it made me think of we will watch your
career with great interest, which is what Palpatine says at
the end of Fenomnace. The fact that he tricked, on

(41:10):
the fact that he didn't lose lose his marbles. What
he does later when he gets stabbed, I guess, but
he doesn't lose his mind when he says all the
Jedi are extinct. You know, you know, if you would
have said something like do it killed killed this Jedi too,
and then all and they jump out, but they come
out with stun weapons, so there's there. There's the threat

(41:31):
of violence, our least physical restraint. John's the only who
brings that here. He brings, you know, he brings he
breaks up their their eden, and he brings in the violence.
But the Droids only have stun weapons. And I think
it's kind of perfect. I didn't want it to be
a droid necessarily, but it made sense. I went with it.

(41:55):
Even the dome is shaped like R two. D two's
head was pretty cool, But it would have to be
a droid because nothing about this planet screams intimacy, right,
Even all the parent relationships are stilted. We're going to
get you through school. I don't have time to have
breakfast with you, but here's something that you can heat up.

(42:18):
The mom and the daughter have a very superficial, you know,
loving relationship, but there's not a lot of There's not
a lot there. There's not a lot of time spent
because to really establish a relationship you need the gift
of time time with that person, and they don't get that.
So it makes sense it's a droid. I really like it.
I hope we get to see more of it. I
don't have any crazy theories because that's just not what

(42:41):
I do. But I really thought it was It was
a nice surprise and complete complete homage to the Wizard
of Oz. For sure.

Speaker 1 (42:51):
It was a good, good surprise, but it was a
surprise that made sense. Yes, so you have this planet
that is kind of stuck in the past, and it's
made it this many years with the supervisor that's maintained things.
And the best way that that can happen is if
you have this program droid that's not going to go
off its program. It just keeps things running and going.

(43:15):
And so when you kind of like, like you said,
there was a surprise, but it was one that made
sense after the revelation.

Speaker 4 (43:22):
Those like this whole series is a referendum on parenting.
Don't be so stuck in your ways that you miss
the moments that matter the most in your kids' lives.
You know, step away from your job, from your screen,
from your obligations, and really look at that person who
is looking back at you and things you are the world.

(43:44):
Really focus on what matters is not the money. You
need money, yes, to survive, to feed your family, to
heat the house, cool the house, whatever. Get close, but
you've got to build in those relationships which Joh does
not have. And look how that affect him. The kids
foster one within themselves and it just becomes a thing

(44:06):
of beauty. It's great. I don't have a bunch of
extra individual things to talk about here, but I'm happy
to see the two of you.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Would like to add I did have something to get
your thoughts on. When it came to them retrieving KB,
finally getting back together with KB. There's this shot of
them running and they're trampling on the credits as they're running,
and then as she comes out of the ship, it's

(44:39):
with this reign of credits as well, and I thought
that was an interesting way to do it with the
kids and the parents just do not care about the
credits that are there. They're there for KB, their their friend.
And as a two of you have been talking and
shifting my views on Jod and his growth through this episode,

(45:02):
that moment now makes even more sense that to Jod,
he probably would have just seen the credits and not
the person, or maybe after seeing the ship go down
initially he would have seen the person in the midst
of those credits. But again, it goes back to this
sense of like the person over the wealth, over the items,

(45:23):
over the material world, the importance of life and especially
that life of Kb's. You know, they kind of hint
at with the crash, but I was kind of like,
she's not dead. They would have written my heart out.

Speaker 2 (45:39):
Like that.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
The that I'm so glad you brought that up, because
I do think that's a beautiful moment, a lovely moment,
because yes, that the credits rained down, they're trampling over
the other parts because the treasure is her, the treasure
is life, The treasure is family and and love. And
now while John, the fact that job will see both

(46:05):
is perfect because one of the reasons why the last
jet I work so great to me is because Luke
is a fully fledged human being. He's not a myth,
and that he constantly fights against his legacy in that
story because I'm sorry to ruin this everyone, but when
you're an adult, you mess up more than you do

(46:27):
as a kid. You have to learn lessons, right, You
have to learn lessons all the time, and you learn
them and you grow from them, and then you regress
and you got to learn them again and again and again.
So he's gonna see both because he's not a couple
of realizations. I mean, he's got a long way to go.
He may never get there, but there is potential. And

(46:49):
these kids are not jaded by that because they have
overcome And it's so great.

Speaker 2 (46:56):
Just real quick on that one. And I do have
another one myself, is when I couldn't help but think
when that ship opens up, when the Onyx Cender opens up,
it just like belches out all of that, all of
those credits, and in a way in which it's kind
of almost like is it belching?

Speaker 4 (47:16):
Is it vomiting? Is it? But it's like too much,
too much of something?

Speaker 2 (47:21):
And then and then yeah, and then they and then
they just walk on them, you know, they just walk
on the credits like they're they're nothing. To them, they're
nothing because as you've said, uh KB is the treasure.
The one thing that I really that we haven't talked
about yet that fits my word and is why I
think I chose my word, is because the the imagination

(47:46):
that the kids use in the Supervisor's tower cave. Uh
Whim and Fern when he says, I've called the X Wings.
I've called the X Wings. They'll be on their way
and all this kind of stuff, and Jod's like, they
can't get through the barrier, and then Whim just like this,

(48:07):
not if you have the crystal of the Founders ancient
warriors up in the Northern mountains. And Fern even jumps
in on the story and they just spin this story.
Now Jod's two experience to fall for it, but they
give their best, They give it their best as children,
and they use these great imaginations that they have and

(48:31):
correct me if I'm wrong. But they're talking about the
story that he's been reading on his little data pad
that they also tell us or show us in the credits.
Am I I'm probably wrong, but that's what I that's
what I got from it, but that he uses the
literature to make a creative story to try to change

(48:54):
or make job afraid that this is actually going to happen.

Speaker 4 (48:59):
It's a beautiful I Met a moment. And it also
kind of pulls the wait what's going on here? Because
there's a moment when they're showing these images like the
story that he was reading in the first couple episodes,
and you think, wait, do we just watch a story
like from his adventures? I mean, like, wait, what's where
does the story end? In the in the in the

(49:21):
series begin? And I love that aspect of it because
it is it's really really cool. But and I don't
know if that came from the story or not. I
would like to think you just made it up on
the spot, maybe inspired by things that he read. I
don't know, but that what a fun thing to even
think about. True adventure, true adventure, the power of story

(49:42):
and storytelling. They've they've been listening to my letters. I've
been writing letters every week about this.

Speaker 2 (49:51):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (49:51):
It's It's probably how Linus felt when the Great Pumpkin
finally showed up at the Pumpkin Patch, and so I
became Linus there. I don't really know where how that,
but how we try to follow that? If you can
friends anything else you guys want to bring up before
we do a letter grade nine, and I also want to.
I think we can do a letter grade for the
whole series too, the whole season. We don't at this
point the time this recording, we don't know if there's

(50:13):
gonna be a season two. We're sure hoping there is.
I mean, I think I can speak for the two
of you when I say we're hoping that.

Speaker 2 (50:20):
I would I would be I would not be disappointed
if they if they said there never would be same.
I can. If this is the story, ah, bless it.
It is a magnificent story. And if I never see
these characters again, it'd be sad. But we have great
We have great storytelling with them right now.

Speaker 1 (50:42):
Yeah, I agree. I think this story was told very
well from beginning, middle and end, and from writing and
acting in a production standpoint, And yes, yes, I want
to see these characters again. But when I try to
think of how they would get back into a similar
type of adventure, it it feels forced and I don't

(51:03):
want a forced story with these characters. So like, like
you said, Tom, I'd be happy if if this is
where where they stayed. They're not big points to discuss.
Just two things that made me really happy in the
episode again where I clapped and cheered was both when

(51:24):
Wendell punched John in the face. I clapped, I clapped
so much and I was so excited. And then when
when Whim finally lights lights up his lightsaber in that moment,
I was like, I was so excited. I was so
excited for them, and those both of those two moments
were some of my big finally moments where it was

(51:48):
just this this exclamatory moment for me, and I thought
it built well to those moments and they felt very
deserved and not forced.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
Did you call here all moments?

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Did you catch when Wim picks it up to ignite it,
he does a double he does a double look at it,
make sure he's got the right side.

Speaker 4 (52:10):
Yeah, that was great. That was great. Who has not
done that at Galaxy? Such?

Speaker 2 (52:15):
Right?

Speaker 1 (52:19):
M hm uh. And then my final point, just to
hear your thoughts on it, I found it interesting looking
at the story as a whole, that there wasn't a
lot of big cameos or characters or kind of easter eggs.

(52:39):
I mean, outside of that wonderful holiday special little shot.
The rest of it. They didn't have Luke Skywalker come
and save the day, or or the Mandalorian m HM and.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
And I was.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
I was okay with that. You know, obviously there's always
a part of me that wants those characters to show up,
but I thought it was really good to tell a
story without forcing other characters because we see this connecting
to the larger world even though it doesn't need to
be forced into it.

Speaker 2 (53:19):
There was that moment when Wim at the very end
turns around and looks up to the sky and the
X Wings fly by, and then they show the Republic
the new Republic Corvette to come out of the clouds
or out of the sky and it hovers over. I
was like, okay, here it is here. We're going to
get somebody, somebody that we know. And it wouldn't have

(53:40):
to be someone big like Lea or something like that,
but you know, a Snap Wexley or someone like that
stepping out. You know who's commanded this, And it is
just all the more appropriate that they just left it
where it was, and you wonder. You know what my
wonder is, does Wim now become someone we're going to see.

Speaker 4 (54:01):
In the future.

Speaker 2 (54:04):
As a you know, as a Republic fighter or something
like that. Who knows? But but yeah, I to that point.
I think it's it's wonderful that we didn't have any
that I loved the mention of Coruscant and Oldran and
Kim saying whatever. I don't remember now what she says,

(54:24):
but she says interesting or something like that, because you
know or no, they I don't remember she says. She
makes some sort of reference to Oh, they clearly don't know, right,
But but I, yes, I I think that's I think
that's part of what my family liked about Skeleton Crew

(54:45):
was it didn't necessarily feel Star Wars to them because
there weren't any characters that they knew. It was all
brand new. And I was talking to one of our students,
stand at Stephen Star Wars that that what makes Skelting
Crew so relatable is this is a Star Wars story
that kind of looks like our neighborhood, and the characters

(55:08):
are acting kind of like us, and they have a
day that's kind of like us, and so it was
really easy to relate to the characters, especially early on.

Speaker 4 (55:20):
And isn't it cool that the planet and the parents
are all about shelter and sheltering and keeping you from
other parts of the galaxy when it could because Fern
has to see the ugly to see that they're still
good in light. And I think that's good, Like that's
that's the bonus of when there is evil. It gives
us a chance to do something good, to help, to

(55:42):
do something, to make a difference. And it's that's a
really interesting point of view, and I agree with you
both certainly. I could certainly point to several Star Wars
Disney Plus series that I was not satisfied with the ending,
that I felt didn't have an ending, that I feltdn't
even have a story. I think you could probably piece

(56:03):
that together if you've listened to the show over the
past couple of years. But this one because it was
resolved so quickly, I mean, I'll be honest. When it
was over and she looked at the stars and and
I saw the corvette and it was over, I looked
at Masie. Oh, that's it, that's it. I said it
twice because I did want that cameo. But then I realized, well,

(56:24):
of course I do. I'm like I grew up watching
Hulk Cogan and the Rock and Stone called Steve Austin,
and like you want that thing where somebody shows up
in the ring and comes to the rescue with the
chair or the lightsaber or the blastech rifle that you know,
the Karellian model. And but it's okay that it's not there,
because this is a gimmick, right. The rebels are the

(56:46):
good guy, sorry, the New Republic of the good Guys.
But the real good guys are these four and their parents.
That's the real good guys. It's not it's not the myth,
it's not the story. It's their story, and and and
it's I do want to see more, but I do
think it stands on its own. And that, as I've

(57:07):
said since I was old enough to articulate, is that's
how you tell a good story as the beginning of the middle,
and then you can leave nuggets. We've got nuggets for
other things. But every key plot point was resolved. Everything
was resolved, and that is so refreshing, and I applaud
the creators behind Skelton Group are making this thing happen

(57:28):
the way that they did. So let's let's give let's
give a letter grade for the episode and last men
thoughts will do a round of that, and then afterwards
we'll start over. We'll give a letter grade for the
series overall, Father, Jimmy.

Speaker 1 (57:45):
Well, are your discussion and your insight into jod up
to My grade on this episode to an A plus?
Uh My first and the initial reactions, I wasn't actually
too thrilled when I watched it on my own with
how John wound up, I felt it there was a

(58:05):
little bit kind of left lingering. But with with some
of the insights that the two of you pulled out
of this, I feel a bit more satisfied, happy, happy
with it. So uh so that's what upped it to
an A plus. But overall, is a great episode where
we saw the growth of all the characters. We saw

(58:28):
a lot of resolution, but they still left it where
we like the characters. The characters aren't done, but we're
at a point where we trust where they're at. And
it was also a lot of fun, a lot of
a fun, adventurous episode.

Speaker 4 (58:43):
On top of that, I love that, and I love
that so much. I rave at the conversation could sort
of look at me, because that's the beauty of conversation,
isn't it. Friends, Like you know, you learn more about
you know listening, and and then it helped you process
and look at the world differently. Father, give me what
grade would you have given it? When if I just

(59:05):
asked you for it when the show started.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
I maybe would have gone as still pretty good, Yeah,
still pretty good, still still overall pretty good. But like
I said, there was just that one kind of small
thing that I kind of felt with My initial reaction
was that they didn't really wrap up Jod's story like
they did all the other ones. But this conversation helped

(59:31):
with that.

Speaker 4 (59:32):
I'm glad And I was thinking about that earlier today too,
like did they wrap up Jod's story? And I think
they did to the extent that there is nothing to
wrap up yet because he's still a mess, but these
kids had done something in him. Whether I don't think
that he knows that, but I also think that he
does know it because he got everything he wanted and shock,

(59:53):
he wasn't satisfied because that's not really what it's about.
And he's still figuring that out, and hopefully he does.

Speaker 2 (01:00:02):
If there's a story to come out of this, that's it,
and it's not under the under the umbrella of the
Skeleton Crew. If we want to know more of Jod's story,
it has to be.

Speaker 4 (01:00:13):
Just just him. Yep.

Speaker 2 (01:00:16):
I loved what you said, Father Jimmy about we can
trust where they are. I've never I've never put those
words together like that, and I think it's such a
it's such a magnificent picture in my head that yes, yes,
I can I can trust where these characters are. I've
believed in them for so long and it makes me

(01:00:39):
really dan when you talk about the Hunger Games and
your complaint to the Hunger Games is like they never
there's no there's no rap to any of them. That's
that's what I think of when you say we can
trust where they are because it's done.

Speaker 4 (01:00:56):
It's over.

Speaker 2 (01:00:56):
The story is finished. Sure, there's more life to live,
but this story, this time of their lives is the
chapter is closed. And I just thought it was. It
was beautiful. And that's getting more towards the series, but
for the episode, I give it an a plus. When
I came into this episode, I thought, I thought to myself,

(01:01:20):
I've believed in this series since episode one is it
has captivated me. I fell in love with the characters
right away, and I thought it will have to be
an absolute train wreck for me to not like this
this series, in this last episode, and it was not

(01:01:42):
a train wreck, and in fact it was it was
something more. It was it was a bullet train that
pulls into the station so smooth you don't even feel
it stopped. It just was so such a wonderful ride
in that last episode. Just such a such a great
because it played, it played my emotions. I changed my

(01:02:03):
mind on Jod not completely, but but you said it
very eloquently Dan earlier, and just so many things went
so well with this, from parents to kids to it
felt like Star Wars with the space battles and not
the space battle but the ships and the skiffs and
the lasers. And I was like, ooh, this is the
one that feels like Star Wars. And the Onyx Cinder

(01:02:27):
always do that. The A Cinder just is such a
oh I love that ship and we get a sm
thirty three comes back with just some heroics and final
funny kind of equip at the very end and just
oh everything, just every ounce of it A plus.

Speaker 4 (01:02:48):
Also an a plus our first clean sweep. Yeah, what
I love about this and I love what you both said.
It really kind of made me rethink what I'm going
to say. This is a good story. It happens to
have the Star Wars moniker on it, but I don't
know that the word Star Wars is what makes me

(01:03:09):
like this season. I think it's just a good story.
I think it's got good characters. There's a setting and
a backdrop, but besides a lightsaber and you know, a
reference to a bike that goes fast and makes that
cool noise and some B wings and Y Way or
X wings, you wouldn't necessarily know it was Stars. I
think it would fit in a lot of different universes,

(01:03:31):
and I think that's so important. And the more I
kind of look back at this franchise and I think
about the things that worked for me and the things
that maybe didn't land the way that the creators had
hoped it would land. Is when Star Wars is in
a a veil for something that's not well thought out
or planned or executed, or isn't told to it's to

(01:03:55):
the degree that you take into account the intelligence of
the audience. And I don't mean, this is a direct
pejority towards anyone, towards any show, towards any character. I'm
not thinking about any of that stuff. I'm just saying
this show works because it works because the characters meet.
There are connective threads that interlock between episodes one all

(01:04:17):
the way to episode eight. There's growth that is organic,
that has earned that. There are payoffs to You don't
have to do heavy lifting the things that don't exist
because you want it to work because you like to
talk about lore. It's there because it's there inarguably so,
and I find that so empowering. I just I think

(01:04:40):
it was an exciting series. Now, Star Wars is what
made me watch it. If you told me I was
about these kids and they run away and there's pirates,
and I'm like, you know, maybe, and you start hearing
buzz about it and okay, maybe I'll check it out,
and it probably would have hooked me. I don't know.
Star Wars is certainly what opens that door for so
many things. But I think this worked not because of
Star Wars but despite Star Wars because it was just

(01:05:03):
a really good story and I'm just so excited about that.
I'm so happy about that. All right, So let's let's
give the season a great stay of all say it
at the same time. I mean, I don't know, I
think we should. I'm excited about our collared friend and

(01:05:27):
his his A plusness of the whole things that let well, yeah,
on three, I'm gonna one, two three, We're gonna say
it one two three A plus absolutely absolutely, how could
it be anything but an A plus, A delight, an
absolute delight. I think at some point, gentlemen, we should

(01:05:50):
come back, maybe bring some other friends with us, and
maybe we should rank like we would do on porpoll.
Do it on the right the main show. We'll rank
all the Disney plus Star Wars series. It'll be fun
to see where Skeleton Crew ends up.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
Listening to coffee with Kenoby.

Speaker 3 (01:06:07):
You are with den Z the podcast you're looking for,
This is.

Speaker 4 (01:06:20):
Tom. We know where you're gonna end up. You're gonna
end up on Teachers in the Dungeon. We'll certainly have
you back on coffee with Kenoby. Naturally, it's Wikipedia official.
Let everybody know what's going on. Teachers in the Dungeon.
And uh, We've also got a lot of great uh
steam material to to sift through to listen to enjoy.

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Oh yes, Steaming the Star Wars was a great success.
You know, Dan, you were there. You're part of what
makes that such a successful show. But that was that
was a ton of fun. Yeah, lots of content kind
of all across the podcast world on that, but teachers
and the dungeon. I mean, what else do I need

(01:07:02):
to say? Adventure continues, you know, the adventure continues and
we talk about it dungeons and dragons and role playing games,
and we put education in there as well, and so
it's always a good time. We do have episodes on
YouTube as well as the podcast itself, so and then
you can catch us on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook.

Speaker 4 (01:07:24):
Well it and follow Jimmy again. It's been so great,
But I know it was actually difficult because of Christmas
and Advent and boy, oh boy, it was. It was
such a delight And selfishly, I just you know, I
don't if you if you lived in this town, I'm
sure we would be hanging out pretty regularly. So it's
great to be able to hang out with you in

(01:07:45):
this capacity.

Speaker 1 (01:07:48):
I agree. This has been a blast. It's been so
much fun to talk about this, this great series with
the two of you again, probably if we if we
all lived in the same town, I'd get a lot
less work done, drinking a lot more coffee. I drink
a lot of coffee anyway, but probably a lot more. No,
It's been a great, great opportunity and I've been thrilled

(01:08:11):
by it.

Speaker 4 (01:08:12):
Well, it's been an absolute thrill for me to share
the microphone with Tom and Father Jimmy as we looked
at season one of Skeleton Crew. Please let us know
in the CWK cafe, well you think about not only
this episode, but all of the episodes of Star Wars
Skeleton Crew. Don't forget to sign up for your no costs,
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(01:08:34):
June sixteenth, the twentieth. Find out more at the official
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at Coffeewithobe dot com slash Disney Wish. Next week I
will bring you the audio from my live Coffee with
Kenoby appearance at Steam into Star Wars, the annual event
that combines education, technology, and of course this galaxy far

(01:08:58):
far away. I will see you all next week. Thank
you so much, everybody. This is Dan dare reminding you
that this is a podcast you're looking for.

Speaker 5 (01:09:08):
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or Lucasfilm Limited. It is intended for entertainment and informational
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at www dot star wars dot com. Star Wars, All names, sounds,
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