CWK Show #835: Star Wars Fan Spotlight-Cory Clubb

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 1 (00:53):
I have a good feeling about this, you know. I've
been thinking about different things to do on Coffee with
Kenobi for a long time. As many people know, I'm
always in the I'm always as the coffee with Kombe Barista.
Instead a thing. I try to find ways to make
the show new and freshall still keeping it kind of

(01:16):
on that same level of what you've come to love
and enjoy. Fortunately for me about this podcast. So one
of the things you may have noticed in my intros
over the past month or so as I've been talking
about Star Wars is about the people, stories, experiences, philosophies.

(01:38):
But people's comes first. People comes first. So I wanted
to do a series of shows, you know, whenever I've
got an opening in the in the CWK cafe, to
talk to people fans who love the saga and are
just good people that make this community thrive, percolate and

(01:59):
just be what it is. So who better to have
for the very first story about their fandom then the
co creator and my best pal Corey Club Corey.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Oh golly, I'm excited for this.

Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, yeah, how do you like what I've don't the place.

Speaker 2 (02:18):
Man, I love the place looks finale, the lights look good.
Oh you upgrade Ac, Good job, well done. Seems so glad.
It was so hot that first night. I guess it
was just two bubbling public guys trying to talk about
things we love. And here we are today, fantastic and.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I'm still bumbling, but hopefully with a little goods. So yeah,
that is so you have no idea what's going to happen,
and no one Wills. You're the first person I really
was like, I want to kick this off with a bang.
I gotta do it with Corey, and unfortunately you're able
to do this. I'm really glad. I've got a series.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
Of twenty questions, okay, and this.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
Is Corey Club's Star Wars story, and I want you
to wax as poetic as you want, just kind of
taking it in. And I'm going to give every guest
the option of seeing the questions in advance, okay, or
just kind of waiting to see how the conversation goes
and tell our friends what you decided and tell us one.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, if listeners are experienced Patreon members to our CBOK
Poorover show, they will know that I'd love to have
the questions early and prep my my answers and just
think about it for a little bit, percolate if you will,
like you said about what I want to say, or
you know, it just gives us some thought, do little
research maybe. And I've been kind of coming over to

(03:37):
the side of you know what, go with your heart,
go with your mind, enjoy the moment. And I did
ask you some initial questions kind of like, hey, what
do I need to think deep about some of this stuff,
or is it kind of off the cuff, because usually
it's like, you know, which fir Star Wars movie and
you say, oh, it's a New Hope or it's Rogue
one or what have you. So it's easy to answer those.

(03:59):
But you know, if you're skipping more deep into stuff,
you know, why does the Force exist? And what does
that really mean to you? And all that kind of thing,
there's some more thought he's put to that. So I
like to think about those a little longer and have
a better answer than just I don't do. So we'll
see how this goes. I'm excited for it. I loved
rebedis about my star's fandom. I think this is gonna

(04:20):
be a great series.

Speaker 1 (04:21):
Well, I am glad. Well let's see, let's see. I'm excited.
I'm so excited for your answers. And honestly, some of
these I don't you know, I don't know what you're
gonna say, because, as you know, fandom are fandoms, our passions.
They evolve. Your Star Wars story has evolved. Let's start
at the beginning. Do you remember the first time you

(04:43):
heard about Star Wars, just heard about it? And what
was that experience like for you think it like Stars
just kind of as a as a pop culture concept,
as a as a franchise, as a film, as a whatever.
Do you remember the first time you heard about it?
And what was that?

Speaker 2 (04:59):
Like? The great question. I'm reaching back into the archives,
and you know, it's I always think back to my cousin,
my older cousin. He's six years older than I am,
and he was huge in the Star Wars. I remember him.
I remember playing in his room a lot of times.
He wasn't there. He was old of me, so he
was probably, you know, older in school and doing other

(05:20):
things and cooler things. But I remember him being in
his room and uh, he has a Michael J. Fox
pushed her up on the wall. I don't watch movie
it was. It wasn't back in the future, but it
was something else. You know, you do that whole like
three sixty turnaround a cool kids room. You're like, oh man,
he had the Star Wars toys, he had the everything.
I remember him having just the cool stuff. I also

(05:41):
remember having the movies on VHS. And for some reason
this sticks out in my mind. When you asked this question,
was somebody had taken like a VHS like where you
like peel on the label and written returned the Jedi
in marker like a green red marker on the label
of the vhad recorded off of the TV when it

(06:02):
was on TV. I remember that this, for some reason
that sticks my mind as something I didn't like. I
just encountered that as like knowing, Oh, that's what Star
Wars is for some reason. That's for some reason, it's
a weird recognition that I have, and that Return of
the Jedi being the one movie that kind of sticks
out to me, which I want to expect it. I
would have watched them in order. But boy, I now

(06:24):
that I think back that I think I was still
in the comics. I remember maybe seeing advertisements in comics
or just like say pop culture zeigeist of Star Wars.
We've bee going into movie rental theater or stores to
rent movies and seeing tortures gosh, I don't know it
actually one delivery, but those seemed to come to mind
for me.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Right, So you just had your cousin, and I thought
you're going to bring up your cousin because I know
that there was wasn't there something with your cousin and
action figures.

Speaker 2 (06:53):
Oh yeah, he definitely had the action figures. We played
with them all the time. He had a lot of
the hof playsets, like the minifigures that went the hath
play set, and he also had like the three through
quarter Kennor action figures. Specifically, I remember playing with the
Scout Trooper and the little button would make it explode.
The bike would explode and go over the place. I

(07:18):
always think that was the coolest action element of that.
And then the way they looked looks really cool. I
can see up on your shelf there and your the
background your office that I can see that character. So
that's the one that we play with. And I remember
having Hans Solo in his HAF gear.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Yeah, and that way.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
I always thought it was interesting because you always saw
his little round face down there some of the aliens
and such. I think he had a Darth Vader. He
had the big Darth Vader collectible kit where you could
open it up and it laid the all characters in
there and fill them all in there, and that was cool.

Speaker 1 (07:51):
Oh yeah, before you saw the movie.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
I want to say it was. I think I was
pretty young. I think he had all that stuff from
when he was a kid, and I want to say
it was before I saw the movie. I remember playing
with that stuff, but I think the first time I
saw the movie, I don't.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
Don't really leads to my next question, which is, Okay,
what movie, show, or book first captured your attention and why.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
Man. I want to say it was like it's always
started off with the early toys. Obviously watching the movies
on VHS and over and over again. We're watching those
over and over multiple times. And then the nineties hit
and the novels were out. I remember I had a book.
It was a appendix I don't know if to make anymore.
It's like the expanded universe of Star Wars and had

(08:40):
all the planets and character names and like it was
almost like a dictionary if you will, Star Wars and
I had that read that voraciously is just learning things.
That was pretty cool to see, you know, all of
this world building stuff put together in the nineties. Even
still the really came out. The special editions were a

(09:02):
huge big deal because the other extra scenes and it
was just coming back to the theater was a really
big deal, Like because us kids in the eighties and
nineties didn't have that, like you know, a nostalgic experience
going and seeing theaters and so we could actually get
that feeling. And I remember it was a like across America.
It was like hot news, like they had the Power
of the Force come out. I remember the tuck of

(09:23):
Bell collectibles, a lot of that stuff, a lot of stuff.
It was like a red Night for Star Wars. And
it was just like so cool because we had some
of those books and the I guess they're legends and
stuff now, but like a last time was kind of
trickled along this maybe some conic books here and there,

(09:46):
but it really wasn't a huge deal in the early
nineties until the special issues really kicked it off.

Speaker 1 (09:52):
So I guess then the question would be, and this
isn't one of the original questions, but you're also my
getty pig. Yes, I think it was Star Wars. So
when did you officially decide or no? In your heart,
I'm hooked.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
I had a freshman year of high school. I went
to Richard's High School. I had a social studies teacher,
very cool. She had a giant Star Wars poster and
behind her desk, and I thought that was the coolest thing.
Did she talked about things like archaeology, and she would
show us a little bit Dano Jones and stuff, and
I was just like, I thought that was the coolest thing. Ever.

(10:31):
That's where I think I felt like there was other
people like that that like Star Wars like me, right,
it makes sense, like you kind of like, oh, yeah,
it's not just me, it's it's the other normal for you. Yeah.
And I think that this is before I want to
say I started going to comic conventions in my high
school years as well, and see, well, you know cosplay
and stuff. I thought like, well, you can actually do this,

(10:53):
like whoa this person like went aloud and you know
all that kind of stuff you you know, you read
magazines and stuff, and thought, oh, that seems like a
really cool idea to actually go to those places. You
meet people and you're like, oh, man, who are just
like me. They love this stuff and they get really
geeky about it and dissect it and talk about it
and enjoy it and buy all the things and put

(11:14):
all the stuff on the clickboles on the wall, and
just like and it's cool, Like this is a cool thing.
Like that wasn't a cool thing back in the nighties.
For a while like that was like, oh, you're a
nerd or you're geek, or that was like the kind
of the stereotype in that way. So it was kind
of like a little bit behind the curtain for me
until I met this teacher and kind of understood that, like, oh,

(11:35):
this is for everybody.

Speaker 1 (11:36):
Star Wars for everybody, So what a great story. So
it sounds like basically as long as you can remember,
Stars has just kind of been a part of popular culture,
You've always liked it. But that was kind of that
that moment just seeing an adult that you respected that
liked it, that kind of helped it was so it
wasn't like you were in the theater and it's like,
oh this is great, but it would just kind of

(11:57):
all work together.

Speaker 2 (11:58):
Yeah, I think it was all worked together. I don't
think it was. I mean it's kind of refreshing.

Speaker 1 (12:03):
I kind of like that that's really neat.

Speaker 2 (12:04):
Well, it's like a homegrown version of the fandom, right,
So we only had home videos of watching it off
the TV. So I mean at that point it was
that's all you had to consume. We could rent them
from the movie theater or the video store. So yeah,
I mean I remember we're watching them over and over
and over again and just thinking of stories my mind

(12:25):
and just living the universe. I think that's where it
comes to where you don't want us make us stop,
you know, you know you enjoy it so much that
it's like I want to Yeah, I want to live
in this moment and for all the time and enjoy it.
So yeah, definitely that's where we came. Uh, I want
to stay an obsession. It's not obsession. I think it's
a fantom group right at serious fandom, Yeah, passion for sure.

Speaker 1 (12:48):
Sure, I will. Let's get down to some specifics of
the Star Wars franchise for you. You knew this one
was coming. The next two I think will be pretty
obvious for you. Who is your favorite character and what
about them speaks to you?

Speaker 2 (13:04):
And I've answering this question so many times throughout the years,
even through Okay and just it always seems to kind
of evolve over the years. Man, it's just what day
of the week is it? Always think of that? You know.
I've really grown to love Han Solo. I mean, everyone
wants to be Luke, and of course Mandalorian's like the
new favorite.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
That's why I thought you might say, but I wasn't sure.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
I just think I always think back to like Han
Solo is just being a breakout character. I always think
about that, you can't recreate him. He's just one of
a kind. He's a scoundrel but also a heart of gold.
I also think that's it was unique at the time,
and I always think of, you know, how do you
write this character? How do you make him lovable? But

(13:50):
he's kind of scruffy and you know, and I get
that way as old get older, I get kind of
scruffy and irritated sometimes, but I've got a whole heart
of gold. I hope you know, at the end, I
might get frustrated, but also I'll do the right thing.
I would hope that I would do that. So, yeah,

(14:10):
Han Solo is my answer for today, and I think
that I relate to him in that those ways.

Speaker 1 (14:16):
I love that Charmed but you're much Moregue in my opinion.
Do you have a favorite film? You know?

Speaker 2 (14:26):
This one is again it's changed over the years, and
I've been saying this lately and I'm kind of proud
of it. I'm gonna say Rogue one only because I
feel like that movie has come a long way. It
really holds up. Haven't rewatched you know, and or season
one season two? Really maybe have appreciation for what Rogue

(14:48):
one is and the fact that they took a story
in a franchise and made it kind of their own
that I've told people that have. You know, if you've
never seen Star Wars orduced someone new to Star Wars,
show them Rogue one, because you can easily read into
a new hope and I think it just fits you
in that world without overwhelming you. Right, you don't have

(15:09):
to know what the force is, you don't know what's
necessarily all the characters or crazy things are. You can
understand the fact that these people are trying to do
a good thing and hard times and we all relate
to that kind of thing. But then if you want
to explore more, you can certainly jump into the original
trilogy and go from there and expand. But Rogue one,

(15:30):
I think it just really hits all the sweet spots.

Speaker 1 (15:33):
You know, You're not the first person I've had over
the years tell me that. Yeah, I include many of
our close friends and it's there's no wrong answers, of course,
sure any right, But I remember very vividly seeing that
with you, yes for the first time, and it was

(15:53):
over the Peoria river Front Museum, and then we'd record
our reactions inside a Nissan Rogue Star Wars home and
that was that was a pretty cool experience, And I
think we kind of associated those memories with those sures
and that sure it makes a difference.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
Absolutely. I think a lot of my current Stars memories
come from CBUK. Like I remember, some of my favorite
memories are waiting out front of toy toy stores, Toys
r us, waiting for the midlight releases and how much
fun that was. Are going to Denny's, are going to celebration,
Oh my gosh, so much fun. So absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 1 (16:32):
All right, let's shift still on the silver screen, but
the one you can carry around in your pocket or
watching home. Favorite series. Disney pluss a lot of series
we did year a little bit ago. Earlier in the
year we did our we ranked all of Disney Plus
Star Wars series. But what's your favorite one?

Speaker 2 (16:49):
You know, I always think back to, like, what's someone
that kind of started at all? I know, Disney Plus
was so new at the time, and over the years
they talked about doing Star Wars TV show. Luca's even
talked about the nineties and there's some like footage out
there I think that he had put together. But that
was exciting stuff. But good Mandalorian. I think that's what

(17:09):
I feel like is kind of kept the ground going
as far as Star Wars stuff. You know, they've really
ignited new fandoms people who maybe don't go and see
the movies a lot or have seen them out of order.
This is a series that can pick up and kind
of like say, jump in that world and follow a
character around and enjoy kind of this breath of fresh
air into Star Wars and just you know, enjoy it

(17:30):
onto multiple viewings. You could watch a whole you know,
it was three seasons, so it's I feel like there's
a lot to be consumed and if you move on
from there, U can And I think that's I think
also I have good memories attached to that. I remember
that came out the very first episode. I watched I
think six times in one day. I watched it at work,

(17:51):
Like once I realized with my friends it was just
a fun experience to do that. I think it was
fantastic to just enjoyed my fandom with my other friends
at work and be at work and watching Star Wars.
I think we had put an office like a meeting room,
and like I had put like don't come to this

(18:13):
room or something like like we're not totally not watching
Star Wars in here or something like that. Yeah, and
you know, we're just watching the first episode of our
lunch break. It was a lot of fun, and it
just should be a lot of things with my kids too,
they never experienced necessarily a lot of stuff. We watched
a lot, obviously all the films when they came out,
the sequel series, but this was one that we could

(18:35):
actually week to week get excited about. And it's almost
like that regnition of like, you know, the Thursday night
Seinfeld or the can't miss week episode of the week.
And my kids never got experienced that, and here we
are we can experience that on Disney Plus with Star Wars.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
When you consider the books, the animation, the Disney Plus series,
I guess there or maybe something within one of the
films itself. But do you have a favorite story arc
in Star Wars that has always been something that has
kind of stuck with you or your favor and there's
a lot of great ones.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Yeah, there I think that you hit on some that
So one that sticks out to me is uh Cadid
and his sacrifice that whole series uh less last couple
episodes of Rebels. Yeah, you kind of knew it was
kind of you didn't, you know, you don't want it
to happen. Uh, that's that sacrificing the first one's family,

(19:38):
that theme and happening on you know, these rebels who
have come so far. I remember season one being so
kind of like all over the place and then in
order to go and then we got all the way
down to the end, and now we've got all these
these revelations and these you know, all this stuff going
on and the trials. He went through the blind and

(20:01):
you know, just trying to find his place. He was
a wayward what was the word Freddy said? It was
something like he was a samurai jedi or or he
was like a lone wolf type guy and didn't really
know his way. But now he got this young padawan
and he's taught him. As you know, he's really become
into his own. He's probably grown more than the padawan.
And so his journey and his path towards that sacrifice

(20:25):
was very impactful. I think that that really stands out
to me. And I remember that scene to him using
the force to hold back that giant blast and it
consumes him, and then the aftermath too, in the sense
of the you know, this is written really well. I
think the character all did a really great job of
betraying that putting it together.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
I love that answer. I love the answer thank you.
It's like, is there a quote or a moment from
Star Wars that you kind of carry with you, not
necessarily in your daily life, but that just said it
one of something that really stands out to you for
whatever reason.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
The classic line of Empire strikes back where Han and
Leah Hansgreen going to be put into the carbonite and
he stops and says, Leah says, I love you. He says,
I know, and such an iconic line. But my wife
and I end up don't. She doesn't get from Star Wars.
But you know, she says, we have such a good
relationship together. She tends to end sentences with that. I'll

(21:23):
say something like, hey, this is dinner was delicious, and
she goes, I know, you know, things like that, and
you know, she's just so sacrificial to our relationship, and
you know how we've grown over the years. And she
used that phrase multiple times, but I've been knowing it,
and she know the biggest Star Wars fans, so I
always kind of like always light bulb switches on whenever

(21:44):
she says I know. And it's just great because she
says it to me, and it's just like, I get
this a warm feeling in my heart and it's great.
I think it's a fantastic line and it just shows
their close relationship together. That is said within a few words.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
That's so good. I love that. I love that. Now.
Is there a certain piece of Star Wars media that
you find yourself revisiting the most? Doesn't necessarily mean that
it's your favorite or that it's the best, But is
there a certain piece of Star Wars media do you
find yourself revisiting more than anything else.

Speaker 2 (22:20):
I guess I could throw on like Mandalorian season one
and it'd be feel pretty good up because I could
again pulling in those memories and I feel like that
could play and I can enjoy that some because I
feel like memories around that. I don't tend to necessarily
rewatch a whole lot of stuff. There's so much because
I once to watch one thing, I think I have
to watch more. And it's not like, oh, stro I'm

(22:41):
I watch it, I'm gonna sit down, I'm going to
consume it. That's a different thing. You know. I want
to watch it and be yes, it's about it. And
I don't typically do a lot of that. Honestly, you know,
I think about it, so I guess the question. My
answer is, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (22:56):
You don't know.

Speaker 2 (22:57):
I don't know that one TBD.

Speaker 1 (23:01):
Yeah, that's no that. I think that's cool. How has
being a Stars fan influenced your life outside of the
stories themselves.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
I mean, I don't have enough figures and toes to
count how many friends I have made through Star Wars fandom.
And I never thought I would like. I know that
has a big deal with with CWKA and US traveling
and many people and lifelong friends, and just the sheer
volume of content we get is enough. But I mean,

(23:35):
the friendships last forever, and I don't I don't think
that you can put out a piece of Star Wars
material that would make me say, oh, you know, I
know somebody who like this, or you know, I know
somebody who just can't would fall in love with this
thing because there's so many different aspects of it, but
because I've met somebody people through that and you know,

(23:56):
it's it's that's what's again go back to like kind
of well of the first question you asked was this
Fantom is big for everybody. The Star Wars is for everybody,
and it's it's so cool to see that and it
shows me that, you know, it sounds maybe that sounds
a little chey. We're not alone in this, right, We're together, And.

Speaker 1 (24:15):
I don't think that's cheesy. It's a community.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Well, I mean I think that the fact that, like
you know, I have a text between you, Jeff Mickey
and I and we tend to like get geeky on
there for once in a while. Oh my gosh, you
see this and all you see that, and just like
it feels so good to get that off my chest.

Speaker 1 (24:32):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (24:32):
You know, I do with my kids as well, Like
we sit around and talk about, you know, what what
happens if this happens, or what happens, you know what's
gonna happened. You know, it's just there's so many different things,
and as even get older, the younger kids will play
that they played all the Lego Star Wars games and
and now that they're older, that we could watch and
or together and dissect really get deep on some of

(24:53):
those issues, and it's just such a great conversation and
memories are being made instantly in those moments. I think
that's that is something not every franchise can say. Uh,
that's just it's worldwide, it's all. It's just I was
talking something about this the other day that Star Wars
is probably the biggest franchise ever. I just I feel

(25:14):
like it's hard. You're very hard pressed to find somebody
who's never seen it. I think there was some documentary
crew that went to like some far off village that was,
you know, hasn't been set foot on, and they hit
se Star Wars. It's just like this weird like connection
we all have without knowing it. Like you could say
Darth Vader and somebody knows who that is, are Yoda
or Luke Skywalker and it's just such a oh yeah,

(25:36):
I know that. You know. That is like saying you
know who the you know who the president is, you
know whatever. So I feel like it's just such a
impactful piece of our history as pop culture fans. For sure.

Speaker 1 (25:48):
I agree with that. This next one, I'm just gonna
read it how it's worded, because I wrote these questions
is very general for anybody. Uh, so we're gonna modified.
Have you attended Star Wars events like celebration, fan meet
ups or cosplay gatherings. What was the highlight? Oh man,

(26:10):
I know you have with one. The majority of the
ones I've been to.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Celebrations are out of this world. I mean, you can't
get a bigger and better than that. But I want
to say one of my favorite events I've ever done
was the utically skipping my mind now the Disney Star
Cruiser Galactic Star Cruiser Star Cruiser Housing thank you. Uh

(26:42):
that was was no longer available, but we had a
chance to go do that. It's once a lifetime thing,
and I felt like I stepped into Star Wars and
it's almost just as good as stepping on a movie set.
But yet no cameras. Was literally immersed into this experience

(27:05):
and we all dressed up and all our friends were there.
I mean, you couldn't turn around a bump into somebody
without knowing who they were. And the whole experience, from
the food to the music, to the storyline to the
gift shop to waking up early and walking around the
ship like by yourself, and just the hum of the

(27:28):
traveling through space. You It was completely immersive. I mean,
there's nothing I don't know I'd rather do that again,
maybe they go on a Star movie set, like I
feel like that is where you would live to be
on Star Wars. I mean, if they have other experiences
like that, would love to partake, but that one is
the tops for sure. And again, like I said, being

(27:50):
with friends and experience it altogether, laughing along the way
and just having some great memories was I mean, probably
one of the best experience I've ever had in my life.

Speaker 1 (28:03):
You know what. And you're talking about the amy I
traveled mouse fan travel when we travel experience first one
we ever did, and I agree. I mean we could
literally spend the entire hour just reminiscing about that incredible
triple with those wonderful people. Oh gosh, I'm glad you
brought that up. I didn't know what you're getting chills. Yeah, seriously.
So are there certain creators in the world of Star Wars,

(28:25):
professional fans, artists, writers, et cetera. I even have podcasters here,
but that's you know, that inspire you.

Speaker 2 (28:35):
I don't think i'd be the fan I am today
without you and CBK. Honestly, I think, honestly my fan
would just be just it will just it would it be?
And that's okay, right, I mean, I think that's okay.
My kids and I will probably have fune with it,
and I'd probably secretly get excited about things and not
how to express it. Does it make sense? So coming
on the show, be with you, having been friends with

(28:57):
you over the years has impacted need to be even
a greater fan. I think either memory I have of
going New celebration and at the Star Wars booth you
can dress up and go be part of the booth
and interact with the fans and interact with them behind
the scenes. With the KNY you pushed me to go
do that is there's just go give it a shot.

(29:18):
We up to the you know, the the dress room
dressing room, got our little costumes on and went down
and got to stand there for a little while and
got some great memories from that. And that what I
would have never done that if it wouldn't been for
you or you know, our friends with us. And I
think that's a big part of my fandom even today.
Like I said, like I ver hear something Star Wars

(29:39):
or something exciting, You're the first person I text and
that's exciting for me. Another one, UH is the I
can't remember his official title, but Doug chain Uh, the
art director from Star Wars who has had been so
instrumental in creating everything from you know, uh the robots

(30:00):
to the Disney parks. His love for design and I
for creativity is just so inspiring. I have a little
book heat down here on my bookshelf that I refer
to sometimes for my own creative outlet to put my
own like how did you do this? What was he
thinking here? You know? And just understanding seeing him speak

(30:22):
to that is such I have such respect for that,
and through CWUK I was had the honor tip bump
into him at Disney World and at MeToo and it
was just that was a kindred thing. I think that
was a great moment to express my admiration for his

(30:42):
art and his ability to give back to you know,
this franchise. And I love to see what he's doing.
He's always working a little things along the way, so
it's pretty cool to see his work still expand even
further into the galaxy. The last personal say, uh is
somebody we wrote down on a piece of paper on

(31:05):
our we started putting this together, and it's our good
friend James A. Don't Taylor. Uh. He has since become
good friends with us. Actually uh, I've met him for
lunch uh locally here and he is nothing but the
best when it comes to meeting fans uh and just

(31:26):
being intent, intentional with the time. He's not quick to
you know, you know, put it aside or just say hi.
He will definitely speak to you and ask you questions.
And he he loves the franchise, he loves the fans.
I know that he puts all that on his social
media as well. He's a genuine article for sure. He
is who he is, and I believe that he is

(31:47):
doing great work. And I love that he has such
fingerprints all over this franchise.

Speaker 1 (31:53):
And all of the people, you know, James and Doug
like genuine and nice people, like genuinely good human beings
that independent of Star Wars, you would still love to
speak with because they're just nice guys, nice people.

Speaker 2 (32:10):
Well, I was gonna say too, I was like, we've
been doing this for a long time, and we've been
fans a long time. I'd be hard hard, hard pressed
that I've never met someone who I didn't disliked or
have not got along with. I think there's there's a
big I don't say it's a problem, but it's just

(32:30):
misnomer if you will in Star Wars family that that
were just like me to each other, or we're rude,
or that we don't care for each other. I think
that's quite the opposite. I don't never had an issue
with anybody at all our years of doing the show
and being a part of Star Wars fandom, I've never
had a bad encounter or a missed opportunity. I think

(32:55):
there's there's easy It's easy to fall in that trap,
but it's so much better to be positive towards something
you love.

Speaker 1 (33:05):
Absolutely very well said. So the next one do you
share Star Wars with friends, family, or the next generation
and how do they respond?

Speaker 2 (33:18):
One of my again, one of my greatest joys in
my fandom is celebrating Star Wars with my kids, my family.
It's definitely been exciting, and I love that we're at
this point where we can consume all these things to
Disney plus to go to the movie theater, have these
experiences and just growing up with it. This is what

(33:39):
they've grown up with. They grown up with coffee with Kenoby,
and they've grown up with all these new Star Wars
movies and TV shows and books and you know, soundtracks
and all this other stuff. So I feel like they
have a lot more than we did growing up, and
they can consume so much more. But they get so
excited about it. And I always think, like, if I
was not a Star Wars fan with they still be

(34:00):
excited about it, but they still will be interested, I think.
So I think that definitely be a cool thing for
them if I wasn't such a big fan. But I
definitely think it is a huge part of their lives
because of me in a good way. And you know,
they've just o for Jedis and a Halloween and they've
quitted things, and we've done like fun little things around

(34:23):
the house. We've done rewatches, We've done all kinds stuff.
So I feel like just part of our who we are,
part of our family, you know. Yeah, And so I
will say that I try my dangist to get my
wife to to get into it and be a part
of it. I think is a blast, but I have
yet to convince her. Early early on in our dating years,

(34:47):
we episode two came out and I said, let's go
watch the mid Leight release and she said, sure, let's
do that. I said, let's watch episode one first. We
got a you know, idea of what's going on. And
she fell asleep during episode one at home and that's okay,
we still want the movie theater together. And she thought

(35:07):
it was hilarious that we were cooper and hollering about
when Yoda walks into Dooku. I mean, the crowd went crazy.
People were dressed up, there's lightsabers flying, and I think
it was her first and last taste of a Star
Wars experience. But she does root for us and definitely
keeps us in our hearts as she sees us enjoy it.

(35:29):
So it's big fun.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Yeah, and it does. It does make make a difference,
And it's almost kind of fun that because obviously Deanna
not a huge Star Wars fan either, But but the
love and support we have from the people who love
us the most, ah empowers us enables us.

Speaker 2 (35:45):
Yeah. One year, Yeah, there's one year that we dressed
up as Honshold and Chewbacca for Halloween. She who was
doing that? She was Chewbacca. I was, of course, of course, yeah,
so it was a great time. And she again she
does that stuff. I think just for me, and I
think that's again photos that before I knew you, No,

(36:13):
that was here we did, I think our first year
we moved to uh Tennessee.

Speaker 1 (36:18):
Oh huh. Interesting. What about with friends, Like do you
when you meet new people, like, inevitably stars will probably
come up.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
I want to say that being a part of Star
Wars and being such a big fan of it, would
you meet people or your new situation or start a
new job, or you're a roomful of people like and
so he brings up Star Wars, your ears like perk up?
You know, I feel like, but you also don't want
to be like that guy.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
Uh exactly.

Speaker 2 (36:45):
And I've tried to like tone it down sometimes, like
I just just just slow, just ease into it, don't
don't break break it off here. So I feel like
over the years I've tried slowly like easyto it sometimes,
but then super were like, so like what do you
think about this? So they'll ask something about just randomly,

(37:07):
you know, Luca's film doing that you know, I'm just like,
I watched you have you know. So it's like it's
so it's hard, I think to people like that because
I would ask, well, what's your favorite movie or what
did you see the part like and kind of gauge
you know, where their fandom a lot lies, right, So
I feel like someone's lovely meat or casual fans. They've

(37:27):
seen the movies here and there. Oh yeah I watched
those movies and like, but they tend to like get
the episodes mixed up or out of order or and
it's it's no fault to them. It's just it's just
is what it is, right. But I don't want to, like,
I don't want to like barf my Star Wars fandom
all over them and ask them the private color lightsaber.
It's just not it's like, you know, what questions asked?
What not to ask because I feel like if you

(37:50):
go too hard, they're like, oh, this conversation is over,
you know, yeah, I can't go where you're going right now.
And so it's just it's just it's with anything, right.
If they were just like, uh, ask me about you know,
fly fishing, and I was like, oh boy, I've heard
of it. I've I've seen it movies is if I've
never done for it. And not to go rambling all
in all about fly fishing and I have no idea. Well,

(38:10):
ob of a sudden they love, but I don't. I
can't relate. I can't get there. And I found that
kind of fascinating. But then you do find somebody who
does likes Star Wars and then all of a sudden,
there's some kindred spirit you can it clicks. They're like,
oh yeah, this, this this, oh yeah, and then it's
just like you've been friends of the entire time, like
it never you ever knew this person that existed, and
now boom, here you go You've got, you know, a

(38:31):
brand new friend that you know because of Star Wars.
It's the instant I know who you are type of thing,
or somebody's wearing a Star Wars shirt that's like unique
in it's only way you're something, have a certain phrase
or something like aha, you know it's where it's at,
you know you've got it right, or you you know,
it's just you just know what you know.

Speaker 1 (38:50):
So my next one says, you've really kind of addressed this,
uh quite a bit in a very profound way. But
do you have any thing more to add it? I
ask you the question talk about your experiences within the
Star Wars community.

Speaker 2 (39:04):
I'm still flabbergas is the word I use about how
much people are ravenous about Star Wars. Like some I've
seen do things online all the time of people who
are doing unique things in their sit in celebrating their
Star Wars fandom, and I'm just blown away about the

(39:25):
intricate detail or the ability to think outside the box,
or you know, their commitment to something that is sent
around Star Wars. And I was like, honestly, sometimes I'm like,
well that's too much. I can't you know. I've seen
I saw a guy writing a unicycle dressed like Darth
Vader with a kilt, playing the bagpipes on fire, and

(39:46):
I was like, that's yes's true. Uh, congratulations, buddy, you've
reached a threshold I can't get.

Speaker 1 (39:53):
But he tiding about the time grows that's.

Speaker 2 (39:56):
What was under that mask. Yeah, that guy. But I'm
just floored by how much people love this franchise and
willing to go to great lengths to celebrate that. I
think that's that's so astounding. It's it's fascinating and may
it never stop. I always too. I think that it's

(40:17):
fantastic that people get so excited about this stuff and
enjoy it. I would wish, like I said before, I
wish that we could find a common ground between older fans,
newer fans, what have you, and be able to just
enjoy it for what it is. I tend to it's
easy to become negative about something. You're like, ah, it's

(40:38):
not this isn't because I thought it was gonna be this,
or even my personal obion, you know, and certain things
I've found myself grumbling about certain things. Well it's a
starfighter and it's you know, this hot new young actor
and he's you know, he's gonna be the next thing,
and you know, I don't care. I mean, just a
joy for what is we get. You're just getting scared

(41:00):
oops and scoops and scoof of of Star Wars ice cream,
and joy it for what it is, Like, you love it,
this is your thing. Why would you hate on something
you love so much? I think that's just fascinating to me,
and I would hope that we can, just as fans
of just come closer online and offline.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
Absolutely, do you collect Star Wars memorabilia, books or merchandise,
and what is your most treasured Star Wars item?

Speaker 2 (41:26):
I feel, oh, man, yes, I do, Actually, Dan, I
have a variety of different things, Yes, looking at things
right now as we speak. I've got multiple novels I've
kind of gone over those years. I keep ones that
I love and once I have not read. And I've

(41:47):
got a couple of different conk book trade pairbacks. I
have individual comics, a lot of action figures. What else
I'm looking from my room right now, I'm okay, I'm
looking over at I have. Okay, I'll pick it up
because a video on here, but I would to look
at it. Just told it in front of camera.

Speaker 1 (42:04):
Sure, and I and I realized, asking you this is
then he is kind of a sicky question as because
I sort of know the answer, but I don't know
how you're gonna explain it.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
No, it's I think it's interesting because I feel like
as as I've gotten older, I've tried to slow down. Yes, Oh,
for sure, I think that there's certain things I will
never get rid of, and there's certain things that I
have to have, Like I like, there's things I have
to pass up on right, Oh, that'd be great to
have I stalk the space for it or I just

(42:35):
like I feel like there's there's certain seasons you go
into and out of and it just comes and goes.
And like like I said, I just mentioned the Starfighter
Ryan Goslick movie that's coming up, Like I'm excited for that.
I cannot wait when we start coming with merchandise or
T shirts. I'm like, I mean, I'm in, let's go.
I'm reading right now. Show me. Do you ever the
uh they did announcement? He had that hat on you
and I are talking about that hat. Yeah, like and

(42:59):
that I fall into a hype bucket and all of
a sudden, I'm trying to get my way out of
there and I'm I'm looking on Etsy and somebody's made
him like I can get one, but do I really
need one? So it's it's such a hard line I
do have. I know, I know, I go for like
kind of memorabilia stuff. I got my stuff that will
last a long time. That tell story. And the last
celebrity went to San Diego? Is that right? And I'm

(43:24):
Anahe'm okay it was anahe and then back okay, but
we I was able to meet jat uh I know
he was on our panel at the Chicago Chicago where
he was? Was it Chicago? Yep, it was Chicago. I'm
being mixed up now. Uh So Chicago was on our panel,

(43:44):
and uh I felt it was gonna be weird to
ask him for an autograph, but I saw, I went
through the correct lines of comucation and purchased one, got
in line with everybody else and was able to purchase
a funk go uh of him here holding it here,
but he signed the funk out. It's sitting on my
shelf over there, next to my Star Wars books, and

(44:07):
I get to look over ad it and I had
a great memory. We had a great conversation. He was
nothing but kind and gracious. And it's just a cool thing.
I think it's a fun thing to have.

Speaker 1 (44:17):
And.

Speaker 2 (44:19):
I uh, I think it's fantastic. I for a while
there wanted a lightsaber from Galaxy's Edge, but I just
didn't where I'll put it. My kids actually both have one.
What else, There's so many different things. I just think
that like, to me, I feel like I'm chasing now memories,
I'm cheating memories and click memories and so if there's

(44:41):
like a statue or action view or something that that
coincides the memories or just something fun. Here's a good one.
We just talked about this throughout our text chat. Was
the lego a reindeer? Just ad? Yeah, I mean, come on,
you get better than that. That's used a blast put
together during the holiday season. They marketed that perfectly and

(45:02):
a great price point. I mean that's just easy, easy
money right there. So yeah, I definitely collect that stuff.
I've slowed down over the years, but who knows. Celebrations
coming right back and we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (45:16):
Yeah, just a few years until the fifteenth anniversary speaking,
oh right, this will be very pruscient, I think, very soon.
But it already is a thing for people. Do you
have any personal Star Wars traditions? Like are you watching
a certain movie at a certain time of year? Things
on me the fourth that that you find yourself partaking

(45:37):
in and you may not.

Speaker 2 (45:40):
Yeah, no, we don't do a whole lot necessarily in
our household. I know. I think was it last year
we two years ago, Oh, wife Holly had purchased some
a cake. Was it a kick Star Wars cake or
something like that? Just for fun for homostentially fourth me
the fourth and we I think that we someboding dressed

(46:02):
up for something. They were having Star Wars at their
at their job or something, and we were laughing about that.
But we don't really going to watch movies at certain
point in the year. There was We did watch Rogue
one around Thanksgiving for a while three years in a row.
For sure that for some reason, just because I feel
like it was I don't know what it was, we
just happened to do it.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
It's like a winter ish thing and it came out into.

Speaker 2 (46:23):
Somber it did, yep, And so I don't know. We
don't have Yeah, we really don't have a lot of
necessarily traditions. That's a good question. We should we should
have some, I feel like missing out.

Speaker 1 (46:36):
Well, if there's impossible transition and that's all just jumped
the next one. If you could bring one prop home
from the Star Wars universe, what would it be?

Speaker 2 (46:48):
I mean instantly, I think of a lightsaber, right, because
that's just so iconic. That's just a which was of
Star Wars. I mean it would be Luke's uh who
lights were from episode one or episode four? Right, I
feel like that's that's what it's been. Yeah, I feel
like that's the one.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
I feel like the helmet expected you to say that.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
No, I don't think into the Mandol helmet. I think
I do that. I think you said props. Well, I
just think actually think of Darth Banner's helmets. I feel
like that's just a piece of history. I think that
it really is. And if it's the prop from original movie,
I feel like it's gonna be a little kind of
like not perfect, if you know what I mean. Like,
I feel like they're just trying to figure out how
to make a lightsaber. What does that put together? They

(47:32):
use like a different parts of different cameras and different things,
and so I feel like that's like, oh yeah, this
kind of feels like a lightsaber, Like what was that process?
Like what was that going through the heads? And they
just they went with it. Now that's what it is,
and now they you know, knock those suckers out for toys,
you know, all the time. And so I think I'm
gonna go with lightsaber. Luke's lightsaber saber from a New Hope.

Speaker 1 (47:54):
His father wanted him to have it when he was
old enough.

Speaker 2 (47:56):
He did, That's right. He looked right down the barrel,
and you know tried they did.

Speaker 1 (48:01):
What do you think makes Star Wars so enduring after
all these years? And what does it mean to you personally?
Like you mentioned earlier that you think it's the most
popular franchise and fantom ever, So why do you think
that is? Why does it last for so long? And
what does that mean to you?

Speaker 2 (48:19):
For you? I mean, I think of you know, us
as the people. We feel like we're so alone and distant.
I think sometimes I think I'm the only person that
thinks this way, is doing this thing or whatever the
case may be, whether it be Star rebellion or you know,

(48:43):
stuck on a desert planet or whatever the case. Mean,
you feel like you're just this is it, this is me,
and you come to realize, no, I'm not alone here anymore.
I'm able to go and have a venture and strike
out on my own and see what happens. And I

(49:04):
think that's the invigoration of the ultimate I guess the
ultimate adventure. I'm thinking through as I say it, but
I feel like we as people just are looking to
go on great adventures and explore and be able to

(49:26):
just I don't know, I say, imagine, but I feel like,
you know, you daydream but you're like, oh, I'll never
do that, But like I think we want to do
those things. We want to go do those crazy things,
and this is a way to escape that, right This
this is a franchise that's grounded in zero history and
everything's made up. There's there's nothing true. But we love

(49:47):
it so much because I think it's an escape and
it allows us to not feel so alone anymore. Like
you said, we have a fandom that surrounds us and
we're able to enjoy this with other people. I feel
like if you're the only person see Stars at all,
and you the only person you're trying to people about
this this movie, you see only person seeing it, like

(50:09):
they wouldn't be in It's just like that'd be so defeating.
But like I said, you could go talk to anybody
about it. They're gonna know something about it. And I
think that's such a powerful thing. It's it's connective tissue
if you will as a as a as people. I
don't know, it says so weird to say it that way,
but like I feel the light things too, but like
they're just like it's almost like a hey, do you

(50:32):
like these sandwiches. I do too, and they're like, oh yeah, sandwiches.
Like I feel like that's something we could say with
Star Wars and all connect on sub level and you
can actual run somebody who doesn't like it and still
have a conversation. You can run somebody who loves it
in some someone who've never seen it before and have
a conversation. So you see it too much and have
a conversation. Like there's so many things, and you can't
say that about all the other franchises out there. I mean,

(50:54):
they're sure there's some out there that are very large
as well, I think big, but Star Wars is endured.
I think because of that, it's kept that going. Has
there been some misfires along the way, sure, I mean
nothing's perfect, but I think it's it's that ability to
explore and imagine and.

Speaker 1 (51:12):
Create fantastic, really really lovely, really well thought out, heartfelt
have Now, this is one that I kind of came
up with well towards the end, obviously, but it's it's
something that I wasn't sure about putting in, but I
feel like it's a good one because I think it's honest.
Have your feelings about Star Wars changed over the years,

(51:34):
and if so, how positive or negative?

Speaker 2 (51:38):
I would say one hundred percent. Boy, Like I've said
all along, and I feel like Stars has been such
a fantastic, amazing franchise for me as a fan over
the years. It's I don't know, it's been something that
I've been able to grow up with and and share

(52:00):
with my family as they grew up, and share and
meet new people and friends, and uh be able to
have experiences I've never dreamt of ever having. So I mean,
to me, that's just I wouldn't I wouldn't take that away
for anything. But on their side of things, like I said,
it's not all perfect. There's there's for my fandom. I

(52:22):
feel like I have to pick and choose what I
want to consume Star.

Speaker 1 (52:27):
Wars and as.

Speaker 2 (52:31):
Well there's I say this, but there's almost too much
right and it overwhelms me, and I don't want to
always do Stars. Like you said, you walking room and
you're the Star Wars guy. You're like, okay, well that's
not that's not just me. I there's other things about
me that are interesting or you need to going no, no, no,
you're the Star Wars guy. Star Wars guy Star Wars guy,
and it's like, come on now, I'm like I kind

(52:51):
of hate Star Wars. Like, like I said, I've gone
into jobs and not mentioned anything about Star Wars or
tried not to, and just because I don't want to
be the Star Wars guy. Like it's like, oh, what
do you think about this Star Wars thing? Or what's this?
I mean? Ask you this crazy random trivia question by
Star Wars And yeah, I know a lot, but I
don't know a ton. But like, I feel like it
kind of weighs down a little bit sometimes, Like it

(53:13):
feels like do I have to know all this stuff?
Do I have to click all these things? If I
just stopped? What if I didn't watch the movie? What
if I don't care anymore? And that's a little bit
of a weight lifted off the shoulders a little bit.
I feel like there's a little bit of a burnout,
and there's also a little bit of like it's to
consume it and understand it and recollect all these things.
It's a lot. It's like I'm tired of this and

(53:34):
that's just me talking. I'm not saying for anybody else,
just myself. And there's seasons like I said, there's seas
you go through, and I feel like the seasons are
good and bad. They're like, hey, like I said that
a brand new season of Med Lauren has come out,
Oh my gosh, I cannot wait. This ben fantastic. And
there's drices where like, I'm tired of trying to keep
up with what happened the last time in this in

(53:55):
this episode or this cartoon series or you know, whatever
have you, or this book or this comic or well,
it's gonna come over here and it's kinda be well,
this sit up here, and then here it's like whoa,
what are we doing here? There's no collective idea. We're
all over the place, and so it's like who's in
charge here? Nobody knows are They're just trying to print money.
They're trying to make money. That's all I want to do.
They don't care about the fans. They want to make stuff.
Da da da da da da. And I get some

(54:17):
of that. I feel that some way. Sometimes I'm like, man,
I watch and Or and I think, man, there's so
much passion and conviction behind this stuff. It's so grounding
and so raw. But then you watch something else and
they're like, man, this flop because where's the passion, where's
the heart? What? You know? If that's my perspective, I
think that's okay. There's there's Cristism and everything is art, right,

(54:38):
so you can have a criticism towards that. I think
it's healthy, but I'm not gonna tear it down. It's
just not my jam. But I feel like somebody's like,
where why don't we put heart and everything? Give it
everything a chance? And these these creators and presenters and
actors are getting paid to do this, and this is
their passion. This is like they're the ultimate quote fan like,

(54:59):
where where'd that go? What happened? I'm not just saying
this is Star Wars. That happens across a lot of fantoms.
I think, but yes, you know, you have the ability
and the backing to do some great, great, great things.
And I feel like someoni as they drop the ball,
and that hurts as fans because I'm like, do I
need to keep on doing this? You know? Do I
want to keep on doing this? I think that's healthy

(55:22):
and very good to take a break. I think that's
a good thing to realize that and go you do it.
I'm going to take a break. I'm going to just
take summer off, or I'm going to take a film off,
and people who just don't watch the film yet they
wait for, you know, a digital release or something. And
I think that's really great. I think that's the way
to consume. It's slow down, put something else. Prioritize in

(55:44):
your life, prioritize your health as your your well being,
your family, your friends. I think it's fantastic. Go do
those things. Absolutely, I would support that. But you're always
welcome back. That's the thing I think dumb too. I
think I feel like Star Wars always welcomes you back
and they're like, or we're glad to have you back,
and we're excited to show up the next thing. So

(56:04):
those are my thoughts on the franchise all around.

Speaker 1 (56:07):
You know, I really appreciate your honesty and it's honest.
I mean, it's refreshing, and I think a lot of
people would probably be able to relate to that in
one degree or another. So I appreciate you opening that
door because I think it's important, you know, and I
think we are affected byers surroundings in our histories and

(56:30):
our experiences, and you know Star Wars is certainly a
part of that, but it is just a part of that.
Now that being set, I want you to think about
characters or specific elements of the mythology of Star Wars
in general. Is there an unexplored corner of the galaxy?
A story that hasn't been told yet you'd love to

(56:52):
see told in a future story?

Speaker 2 (56:58):
Oh, you're as the creator to create something, man. I
in high school I wrote a fan fiction story about
a wayward I think she was a smuggler or something,
just a tavera. What's her name?

Speaker 1 (57:14):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
They've popped in my head for some reason, but I
had to written the story she had going up with
the gangster and she's trying to get away, and it
wasn't a long story, but I just love that way
of living the universe. I feel like, if there's a
way to capture the everyday man if you will, or
every day rogue if you will, living and doing things

(57:37):
and getting affected by the bigger pieces of the story. Right,
they're the the skyworker things. I just feel like they're
like the echelon of the high art and what does
every person think?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
You know?

Speaker 2 (57:50):
They're the ones that's trying to get by. Let's follow
them around for a while and see what happens. It's
you know, adventures and things. They're getting evolved in and
out of effects. We kind of saw that.

Speaker 1 (57:59):
I think with and Or, I was gonna say, it
reminds me of Or to a degree.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
Yeah, for sure, I think that's interesting cool, But I
also think of you know, the fringes of the Stars
Universe that haven't been explored, those those utter rim places that.

Speaker 1 (58:18):
So you want to see something brand new that is
necessarily tied to the Skywalker saga, but just yes, something
that is just people doing their thing and making it
feel like you did it on the Star Cruiser.

Speaker 2 (58:30):
That's what I was going for. Yeah, I was like
kind of like, how could you How could you create
that and be able to put that into in a
film or TV series or something like that and follow
them around and you know, make it exciting obviously, but
like make you really feel like you really in depth
in Stars Universe. I don't, I don't, Hi do that.

(58:51):
I feel like when we saw Ray when she was
making that soup, remember that soup with the bread she
that thing? Oh yeah, the whole little experience was really cool. Like,
oh wow, this is this is how they live in
Star Wars to a small degree, right, there's ribal people
and it just made you feel you're part of that
a little bit along the way, and it's really interesting.
I know they touched on this in the Ahsoka series,

(59:13):
which I thought over a lot of space, no pun intended,
but we traveled to a different galaxy, a different I
don't know, wormhole or something, and it was just like
a most different timeline, Like there was no touch of
the Skywalker Saga mishappenings in this universe, and there was
a lot of what question marks there. I love to

(59:33):
explore that. I would I think I would hope that
they would do that in season two. Dave Filonia, I'm
sure it has something I'm a sleeve great for us
to consume. But I would love to go see that
and again, like I said, not have to worry about
the Skywalker of the Saga itself and the whole conflict
of that and just enjoy for what it is. Like again,

(59:54):
I feel like and Laurien did that and or did that,
like you kind of like this little quarter of the
of the universe to you go and explore a clean
slate there clean slightly.

Speaker 1 (01:00:04):
I love that. And finally, our last question, if you
could give one piece of advice to someone just starting
their Star Wars journey, what would.

Speaker 2 (01:00:14):
It be, Find your joy? I thought I would say
to them, it's so funny because I feel like, again,
like I said, you could go and watch something and
really wow, wow, this is fantastic as find it. Find
your joy, find that little piece of Star Wars. This

(01:00:37):
is your thing. I don't know what it is. It's
for you. It's your yours to find out, yours to
go claim years to go discover. Maybe it's something that
no one's ever heard of. You're gonna go track it
down and figure what it is. But find your joint
Star Wars and share it with people. I would share
it with the people, and I think you'll find a
lot of build will be very interested in what you

(01:00:59):
have to do or have to say. I know people
have talking about starring a Star Wars podcast, Well what
do we even talk about? How was I talk about
what you want to talk about? You make it your
own show. Well, I can't do what you guys do.
You're not us, You're not us doing our thing. You're
doing your thing. Uh, and doing I can't do it
your way. You're the ones that we're going to do that. Oh, yes,
you're You're true. It's true. Yeah. I think I've always

(01:01:20):
told people that, like about podcasting and uh just and
fandom in general. Make it your own. Don't worry what
are who are doing. Don't worry about you know what
the people will think. Go find your joy in Star
Wars and make it your own and shure it.

Speaker 1 (01:01:36):
Absolutely absolutely because it is, even though because it can
be daunting. I have friends that I've only seen a
couple of the movies, or they say, hey, I want
to get into Star Wars. Where do I start? Because
I think, like you said, if it's not going to
be fun and a nice, pleasant escape, then don't even bother.
But I think the fun has to be the first part.

(01:02:00):
And so you know, I don't know, I don't know
where I would see people first.

Speaker 2 (01:02:04):
I mean, well, I mean, like to me, it's I
always think of if you've never seen the movies or
you haven't seen it in a long time, Uh, Star
Wars with New Hope. I mean that's the one that
started all. I always feel like if they just made
that movie and that was it. That was the only
movie they made it, but nothing else came out to
be no no figure lines, no comic books, nothing. It
was the only film that came out. That's where it's at.

(01:02:26):
That's what was groundbreaking with the time. That's what pushed
the limits. That on drove what you know, uh, CGI
is today like that this is this is such a
groundbreaking film and you want to study film that's one
would pick pick up And there's so many different things
that are and creators that are on there that were
leaders and for tier, for tearsmen of of the of

(01:02:48):
that film and television are you know the screen. And
so I feel like, for that alone, go watch it
and go watch it, you know, watch and see what
you didn't see back then. I always feel like you
watch as a kid, you're like, oh, so amazing because
you're just like blown away with all the cool stuff. Watch
as an adult you're like, oh, I'm seeing new things now.

(01:03:09):
All they said that all they really met this okay,
because I tend to like watch we watch things that
I'm older now and I feel like, oh I did
not get that joke in the window, or I'm like,
oh man, how did I not? How did I watch
as a kid. This is way over my head, Like, uh,
you know, it's just as I feel like, so I
think too. It's like, go revisit that and see if that,
you know, we pick up some feelings along that and
then then you know, explore more after that, Like where

(01:03:31):
are you gonna go next? You know, what do you
want to consume? What do you like to consume? Is
it reading material, is it's something online, is a video
game or whatever. There's so much out there you can
kind of unique in your way, like, oh, you know,
I love to go play board games. Okay, there's board games.
You just go check that out. So there's definitely a
lot of things out there to do. I was just

(01:03:53):
that's where to start. It seems to coffee you are
with z the podcast here.

Speaker 1 (01:04:10):
You know what. I can't imagine starting this whole version
of coffee with Kenobi any better. I'm so grateful for
you sharing your Star Wars story. I hope that it
I hoped it was gave you a chance because I

(01:04:30):
think you've got such a great story. I feel like
we just scratched the surface of it. But I really
appreciate you sharing your Star Wars story with us.

Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
Well, thanks for having me on to explore things the
edges of my fandom that I had not explored in
a long time. And I think it's it makes me
think a little bit now, I'm to think a little
hard some of these questions and go, wait, I thought
about this, and I'm going to come back on and
talk about that. So and also like the fact that
it went from like kind of early to later. I
like that timeline. I think it was really fun to

(01:04:58):
be able to explore that because as I was answering questions,
I can reach back into some of those earlier questions
and pull that forward, and so a really fun time.
I think it's it was a blast revenus, especially with
all the experiences I've had with Star Wars. Thanks, We're
going to have just so many more.

Speaker 1 (01:05:16):
Well, I'm sure a lot of people are going to
want to reach out to you and ask you, Hey,
can you explain that? Or or what do you think
about this? Or just want to want to just say hello.
Where's a good place for people to reach out to you?

Speaker 2 (01:05:28):
Sure? Yeah, you can touch base with me on Twitter.
I'm on Twitter at Queer Club on Instagram as well.
What else? Stick an email me? Quercy at coffeecobe dot com.
That still works, but yeah, jump out online. Tell us
your thoughts are, what your fandom's like. I'd love to

(01:05:50):
become friends with you. Star Wars easy, right, let's do it,
let's make this happen. But yeah, check that out and
follow me there.

Speaker 1 (01:05:58):
And hey again, thank you so much, dude for your
friendship and for helping to pave the way for this
podcast and for bringing so many people more.

Speaker 2 (01:06:08):
Thank you. It's a pleasure.

Speaker 1 (01:06:10):
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