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December 23, 2025 31 mins

The principal focus of this podcast episode centers on the invaluable contributions made by veterans in support of their fellow servicemen and women. We delve into the various initiatives undertaken by veterans to provide assistance and resources, thereby fostering a sense of community and camaraderie. Our discussion highlights the significance of sharing personal narratives and experiences, as these stories not only educate the public but also serve as a source of inspiration for other veterans facing similar challenges.

Takeaways:

  1. The podcast emphasizes the importance of veterans helping each other through shared experiences and mutual support.
  2. Listeners are encouraged to engage with various veteran organizations that provide essential resources for transitioning veterans.
  3. The hosts discuss the significance of mental health awareness, particularly regarding PTSD among veterans and the need for open conversations.
  4. Chef JB shares inspiring stories of at-risk youth benefiting from culinary training, highlighting the impact of mentorship on their lives.
  5. The podcast highlights upcoming events aimed at fostering community among veterans, particularly during the holiday season.
  6. Both hosts reflect on their personal journeys and the necessity of self-care in order to effectively support fellow veterans.

Companies mentioned in this episode:

  1. Veterans Transition Resource Center
  2. VTRC
  3. War Built foundation
  4. PTSD foundation of America
  5. Recon Chief Foundation
  6. Semper Fi Fund
  7. Big Fish foundation
  8. Honor Flight

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(00:11):
Hey, welcome to Combat Vet Vision.
This is a show that is here toeducate the public.
It's also here for ourveterans to tell their stories.
Our sponsors, supporters andvolunteers to come on and tell their
story, why they're sponsoringour veterans and what they're doing
to help our veterans out.
I got Chef JB Brown on deck.
World renowned chef.

(00:31):
He's my co host.
He does a lot of reallyinteresting things.
He's got a lot to say and thisis really just about us today.
We're going to talk about alot of really cool things.
Chef, thanks a lot.
It's good to see you.
You haven't been here for along time.
It's good to be seen, Aaron.
And a Merry Christmas to you,my friend.
Yeah, Merry Christmas rightaround the corner.

(00:51):
Yeah.
And it's great, great to, tobe in the studio today.
It's, it has been about threeor four weeks.
It's, you know, life catchesup to us and we get real busy and
a lot of things going on inthe veterans world.
We're, we're doing a move nextweek before the first.

(01:12):
And this is the VeteransTransition Resource Center.
Yes.
We're obviously kind ofreaddressing our studio position
today.
We're kind of in the classroomcenter setting.
We've kind of decorated theback of us with the poster that you
see behind us.
Yeah, the VTRC poster forveterans and their families.
And we're moving down thestreet to the other side of Sunset

(01:35):
park about five blocks away,same side of the street, you know,
a little smaller facility forright now until we can purchase a
building and, and get itrenovated to our, our real needs.
And then look out, sky's the limit.
You know, my dream and my, myfocus has been on how can we really

(02:00):
help veterans.
And I think that if we makeavailable a lot of 501c3 for veteran
groups in one spot, then theveteran can come and he's not only
talking to maybe a service repfor claims, but also, or an advocate

(02:24):
for claims.
And he can also find out about22 warriors, you know, and, and suicide
prevention and the differenttraining for wear and assist and
things like that.
Also we'll have Honor Flight,the girls from Honor Flight, they'll

(02:45):
have an office there.
Also I've got about 8 to 12right now that have pretty, got firm
commitments from that wouldlove an office there and wouldn't
it be really nice instead of,you know, happened to wait.
I know the veterans having abig fair Jan. 8 down at the hospital

(03:09):
and here in Las Vegas on Pecos Road.
And that's really a greatthing, but wouldn't it be nice if
you could do that and at yourleisure five days a week, Monday
through Friday, when you havethe time and not have to have something
prearranged, you know, andthat's, that's my dream, that's my

(03:31):
goal, is how to really touch aveteran's lives and their families
in a lot of the aspects oftheir lives, whether it be, you know,
needing some housing orneeding some food or needing special
care for your children,different programs for your children,

(03:54):
you know, to become acclimatedto the communities that they, they
live in.
Complete service.
That's, you know, I've alwayshad a service servant heart.
I'm like you, Aaron, andthat's why we're so close, is we
both have servant hearts, andone of our main things is the veterans.

(04:16):
And so they have needs it definitely.
And definitely, you know, andthat's, that's something that's always
been near and dear to me, youknow, with the War Built foundation,
the PTSD foundation ofAmerica, and Recon Chief Foundation.
And, you know, if, if you lookat some of my stuff, you know, the,
the, the, the stuff I put outthere, I mean, I, I got a plethora
of organizations that surroundme at any given time that I'll reach

(04:39):
out to, to help these veteransout, whether it be Semper Fi Fund
or any of these other guysthat are doing incredible things
to the Big Fish foundationand, and things that I've gone to,
things that veterans have goneto, these organizations that are
doing incredible things.
We can't always do it all thetime, every day of our lives, but
some of us do.
I mean, that's really, youknow, that's what I surround myself

(05:01):
with because that's atherapeutic effect, especially with
all my injuries and all ofour, our disabilities, ourselves.
You know, what are you doingout there as an individual?
Because here we are, you know,coming around Christmas and there's
all these things that, youknow, we want to reflect on and,
you know, we're worried aboutthe suicide prevention.
You know, there's a lot of youveterans out there that are, are
dealing with things that theVA is not picking up the slack on

(05:23):
because they're not the wholepiece of the pie.
Nor am I.
No.
Nor a chef.
Nope.
Jb but we do have enoughpeople that we, we associate with
that, that sometimes do havethe other pieces that we're slacking
on.
And those are the cool thingsthat I want to hear about from you
Guys, that's why I have thispodcast, because I bring a lot of
people on here.

(05:43):
Like, just, just give me an example.
Yesterday I had a buddy ofmine call me up and say, hey, man,
I just found this wallet inthe, in the, in the parking lot in,
In Berea.
And, and it's, and it's, it'sa veteran.
It says a veteran on his license.
Can you find him?
And so I'm like, hey, man, whoam I going to call?
The two cops I know are, areones in California.
One's, one's, one's pretty far away.

(06:04):
So I reach out to him.
I'm like, hey, man, theydidn't get a hold of me, but in 10
minutes he was able to findthe guy anyway, so.
But at the same time, luckily,we have those resources to reach
out to, but you never knowwhat those resources are going to
be.
But we want to help thoseveterans that are in need.
This guy lost his wallet.
Yeah.
Before Christmas.
He's desperate.
And, and a veteran at that.
You know, I mean, not to, notto make any other reason why we wouldn't

(06:27):
help anybody else, but theseare the kind of people that I like
to associate with, people thatare working to help other people.
And you, as a veteran, you'reassociated with some things.
You've done some things.
We got veterans writing books,got veterans writing their stories.
We've got veterans trying tofind other solutions.
What is your solutions?
That's why you're on mypodcast for so many other reasons.
Why?

(06:47):
What's your transition?
What's your story?
So many incredible things.
Right.
And Chef, you've been, you'vebeen busy.
You've been out of commission.
I mean, I'm always like, I gotthis co host.
They're like, hey, this guy'sa ghost for like three weeks.
Does he really have a co host?
Here he is.
He's here today, but he wasworking, he was working on.
On a bunch of stuff he hasn'ttalked about the kids.
Yeah.
You were making meals forsomebody who needed you at a spur

(07:10):
of the moment because somebodypulled out.
Yeah.
Y.
Of their commitment.
You had to be a caterer.
So.
Yeah.
And go ahead, talk about someof these things.
Well, you know, there's a,there's a school here, and it's part
of Clark County SchoolDistrict, and they help at risk students,
kids that drink and drug orcan't go to school.

(07:33):
And, and we want to changetheir lives.
We.
And that school does.
It only has 20 students.
They have to do two AAmeetings every week to stay in school.
They.
They learn about workforce development.
They're working in therestaurant, telling their story to

(07:56):
customers all the time.
And.
And I've got one girl, youknow, she's just.
She.
I.
You can just see him.
And we call it the BloomingBistro because they're blooming.
They.
They bloom right in front ofus, just like a flower.
And, And Scarlett just.
I mean, she's been on2.2 PSAson Channel 8 and Channel 5 Fox about

(08:26):
making charcuterie boards.
When she was on Channel 5 Foxwith me, we were making a charcuterie
board together.
I trained her that day on howto do three of them.
And lo and behold, now she'smaking them by herself, delivers
them.
And.
And it's just.
It's just unbelievable whatyou see when, you know, it's like

(08:49):
when you're looking atsomebody and you're teaching them
and the lights come on, youknow, that's.
Or you're talking to themabout staying sober or doing something
good in life, and you can seethere's nothing more rewarding than
that, you know, and.

(09:09):
And then I'm cooking for theneedy people.
You know, the holiday mealthat I do for 450 up in Anderson
for seniors and.
And veterans.
So it's really great.
Every week we talk or all thetime I talk with Aaron and, And I

(09:33):
say, you know, I'm gettingreally busy or I'm not feeling well,
you know, as age overcomes us.
I'm a veteran.
I'm 100%, and I have issues with.
If I get a cold, I don't justget a little sinus or a little cold.
I usually sometimes turns intopneumonia if I don't take care of

(09:57):
myself.
So it's important, you know,we're getting older now, and, and
that's important to me is totake care of my health because I
can't help anybody.
I can't help a veteran if I'm sick.
I can't help a veteran, youknow, if I'm not alive.
So the deal is got to takecare of ourselves, too.

(10:17):
And that's important for allveterans, you know, and this is.
This is a great time of year for.
For taking care of yourself.
Yes.
And taking care fresh andstart setting in to a lot of ptsd,
you know, start setting in and.
And you start living.
You know, that's one place youdon't want to go alone is in my mind.

(10:41):
It's like a bad neighborhood.
You know, I. I don't need tosit there.
I need to get out, meetpeople, be of service, you know,
and I learned by doing that.
Time to like, be in my headand start feeling, oh, poor me.

(11:08):
And, you know, just the thingsyou, you see it all the time.
That's why you talk to PTSDsoldiers and, and veterans, because
it's important to talk about it.
Yeah.
And, you know, I mean, as muchas we talk about it too, this is
combat vet vision, and it'sobviously focusing on combat vets
and, and veterans, but societyneeds this too.

(11:31):
You in society don't know howmuch you need to communicate with
one another.
You need to give out thatlove, that support.
You know, I talked to a buddyof mine that, that, that works in
the jails, does all thesethings all the time, and, and how
important it was for him totalk to me.
We spent about an hour and 20minutes yesterday talking, and he
was saying.
Hey, you know what?
I talked to the ones that justdon't, you know, they're not, they're,

(11:52):
they're not, they're not goingto prison yet.
They haven't been prosecuted.
They haven't been.
Whatever.
So he doesn't even care whatthey've done, but he spends time
talking to him and just givingthem that, that little bit of respect
and asking them questionslike, you know, why are you doing
this?
Or what are you doing that?
You know, do you need a, doyou need a crayon to do art instead
of doing art with bodilyfluids or doing something like that?

(12:12):
You know, it's, it's, it'sgiven, given that humanity, that,
that little bit of more oomphso that you're not just holding somebody
accountable for something thatyou don't even know if they're accountable
for yet.
And, yeah, also, you know,given the benefit of the doubt to
each person and sometimes, youknow, to the detriment.
Right.
You got to keep a tacticalmindset because you never know what's

(12:34):
gonna.
What to be expected, becausetoday's world's very scary.
However.
Yeah, there's no reason why wecan't be kind and considerate and
loving, especially this timeof the year.
It's really important.
And, and, and where are yougoing to get that, man?
Where are you gonna get that?
And, you know, I got an openhouse coming up on, on Christmas
Eve, Christmas Day.
You know, it's, it'sbasically, it's 16 to 1700.

(12:57):
I'm gonna put it out on mysocial media.
I'm gonna put it out on a lotof things.
If you need to know, hit me up Please.
So that I can send you thelink if you want to just come on,
because maybe you're alone at Christmas.
Maybe you just need to say something.
I think JB is going to try toget on there as well.
Not.
Not to mention New Year's Eve is.
I'm gonna do one as well.
But it's just a chance to justpop on there.

(13:19):
I want to know what you'redoing, too.
If you're a vet, that's justkind of dealing with something.
If you're a civilian, whateveryou want to talk about, pop on there.
Say Merry Christmas, say some things.
Hey, just.
Just.
Just pop on there.
But I want to give everybody achance to pop on there and say something
so somebody else pops on, givethem that due diligence, and then
feel free to stay on.
If someone's going to staylonger, I'm going to turn it over
to the.
To those.
The powers to be and let thatcontinue on.

(13:41):
So, yeah, I look forward tothese open houses all the time because
it's.
It's my time to kind ofreconnect with some people that I
haven't connected with or tohear some great stories.
And I love it.
I love it.
You'll see me smiling.
You'll see me doing that.
Because it's a chance for usto come together and really kind
of.
Yeah.
I mean, to bond.

(14:02):
Camaraderie.
Yeah, the camaraderie.
It's.
I mean, we're all God's kids,and God doesn't make any junk.
So, I mean, there's some badcharacters out there, and I don't
have to pay attention to themif I can, if I don't have to.
And I. I certainly talk toeverybody if they want to communicate

(14:25):
back.
Great.
I mean, the only way you'regoing to get any help or resolve
any issues that you have is totalk about it.
And by talking about it, youkind of dissect it yourself, too.
And.
And yes, that's so important.
Processing it is.
Is way better than stuffing itdown in the side.

(14:47):
Oh, yeah, yeah.
And.
And living with it in a waythat's really going to destroy you
in the ultimate, ultimately.
And.
And, you know, I'm not sayingeverything's going to be great and
rosy and great to discuss everything.
Yeah.
But we all have our problems.
We all have our issues, andwhat are you doing about it?
That's super important.
You know, everybody's might becaught up on, like, hey, I don't
have ptsd.
I have.
Whatever it's called, whateveryou want.

(15:08):
To call it, you could call itwhatever you want, but at the end
of the day we all havesomething that's going on in our
lives that really probablyneeds to be kind of dealt with in
a more.
What are you doing?
To deal with it in the best,proper manner.
Right.
And you know, you get intothat, that F word, the fear word,
you know, and, and we start.
Glad you went.
Fear.

(15:28):
Yeah, the F word.
Okay, go ahead, continue.
Okay.
I know we, we're used to you.
Yeah, I'm the effort word.
You know, the fear word.
But the fear word, you know,false evidence.
Appear.
Appearing real.
And you get into that fearlevel and, and I was talking to a
really good friend this morning.

(15:49):
We had about 50 of us forbreakfast that have been together
for over 30 years.
And we have a little breakfastclub and we do it usually just before
Christmas.
We'll probably do it next weekon Tuesday too.
And it was like, it's 6:30 inthe morning, you know, you got to

(16:11):
be up at 4:30 to get to a 6:30 meeting.
And it was a breakfast.
But one of the group is, she'sfacing some real fear and you know,
it's, it's money issues, youknow, it's her career and money and
you know, they changed aperson of authority above her and,

(16:32):
and that person's reallygiving her a hard time and she really
likes her job, but she doesn'tlike him.
You know, and sometimes she,just by talking about it then you
realize, you know, maybeyou're not the only one.
And if you can stick it out,maybe he'll go.
And if, if he doesn't go,then, you know, you can always go

(16:54):
someplace else.
You know, it.
Nothing's ever written in stone.
I tell people that all the time.
Nothing.
Anytime you think you need tomake a change, by God, maybe make
that change and see if itdoesn't work for you.
And yeah, it's really good in life.
And it's, it's a work in progress.

(17:14):
And I'll give you an example.
This morning I'm driving hereand you know, and I look back at
where I was when I first cameback from combat and dealing with
all these things and you know,I'm, I'm driving my truck and it's
a, you know, F150 sport.
It's, it's a, you know, twin turbo.
It's got a, it's pretty motivating.
I really like it because it'llget up and go.
But I'm not a guy that's goingto speed and go crazy all the time.

(17:37):
But I do have a little bit oftactical awareness about me when
I'm driving.
And you know, part of it isthe adrenaline rush that I get, But
I do it within the parametersof the law, the speed limit, the,
this, this is that.
Well, there's a Ford Mustangthat pulls up to me gt and it's kind
of, it's got that rollingrumble, rumble.
And it's, you know, we're atthe red light and it's just kind

(18:00):
of sounding good and, and hejust wanted to open it up a little
bit.
Well, I, I did too.
Within the 45 mile an hourspeed limit.
And it felt good.
But I, I knew my, my limits.
Right.
And I'm like, you can do it,but don't.
And you can do it with, but don't.
And stay within those limits.
Don't squeal the tires, juststay within that 45 limit.
So that's.
I was driving here, but Ireally kind of appreciated the adrenaline

(18:22):
rush under control.
But it's the mechanism ofgoing to warrior groups all the time.
It's the mechanism of beingengaged with my combat veteran buddies.
And it's the therapeuticeffect of feeling that rush.
The same kind of rush that Igot in combat, the same kind of rush
that I felt when we wentoutside the wire and we had to get
some for time to time becausesometimes we need to feel that a
little bit and it's scary forthe family members around us.

(18:43):
I'm glad nobody was with me,my wife or kids or anybody, because
it's not right for them.
Because my wife's like, shouldI drive like you or should I drive
like your mom?
And I'm like, please drivelike my mom.
Because, yeah, driving likeme, I'm a little tactical driver.
I'm kind of a lane predator.
You know, I kind of like fillin the blanks.
But, you know, I want to makesure that things are clear and so
I can see the road in front ofme, not cars in front of me.

(19:04):
And so I, I maybe take it.
To the extreme, a little fine line.
But there's a fine linebetween one.
Way or the other.
Yeah.
So I'm just giving you thatexample because you got to be within
parameters.
Yeah.
But if you don't have thecontrol mechanisms, you don't have
the, the battle buddies totalk about it to.
Who are you going to sharethat with and be right, you know,
And I'm talking to my buddiesabout things that you just can't

(19:25):
have conversations with in public.
But that's okay.
Don't have those.
But they're, they're not,they're not real.
They're not as real as theyare gonna be if you don't have those
conversations.
Suicide prevention, you know,talking about how.
You'Re feeling, counting thecosts, counting the cost.
And, and keeping it on safe.

(19:46):
I'm throwing, I'm throwing abuddy of mine out there real quick
and then I'm gonna give itback over to Chef.
Okay.
Master Patil, he basicallystated to me, he's like, hey man,
you can always keep it on safe.
And I really like thatstatement, and it's very true.
We keep it on safe, keep it onsafe until there's no other option.
That's really the way to keep it.

(20:07):
And I love that saying becauseit keeps me thinking about keeping
it unsafe all the time.
Those are the aha moments thatI get from talking to my battle buddies.
If I didn't have battlebuddies, if I didn't have warrior
groups, that wouldn't be a factor.
Thanks to the PTSD foundationof America for having the warrior
groups that we do.
And I have three of them a week.
If you need one, hit me up.
We'll talk about it, Chef.
Go ahead, brother.
Yeah, I know I was long windedon that.

(20:28):
Sorry.
Yeah, it's counting cost.
I mean, I, I like to speed.
I mean, all the time I gottacontrol because, you know, every
three years I get a newvehicle and, and it's just what I
prefer.
And they're all twin turbofuel injected.
You know, it's, they, they go fast.

(20:51):
They go 160 miles an hour.
I don't want to go that fast.
But 55 or 60 and a 40, yeah,I'll do that sometimes.
But nowadays, I mean, if youget caught, the minimum ticket I
think for doing 45 and a 30 islike $375 or 380.

(21:13):
I mean that's, that's a heckof a hit, you know, and it, and it's
not just the, the, the ticket.
You know, insurance is reallysuper high here in, in Nevada.
And you get a ticket and, youknow, I can imagine going to court
and telling the judge, well,your honor, it's a youthful indiscretion.

(21:35):
I'm almost 74.
You know, that, that excuse islong been under the bridge, you know,
so usually, you know, it'slike the one captain that I had,
I went to a captain's mass.
I was, I was daydreaming and Ihad the helm and, and I went over
the mark.

(21:57):
So I got a captain's mass andthe captain, he said, you know, I,
I started off as a white hat.
I've been in the military for42 years now.
I've heard a lot of stories.
At captain's mass, he says, ifyou tell me one I've never heard,
I'll let you go free.
But if you tell me one I'veheard before, I'll double your sentence.

(22:21):
How do you want to plead?
Guilty.
Captain Guilty.
You know, it's like reason is,is all important.
You know, it's what you do.
It's how you talk to people,how you deal with people.
You know, veterans come outand they're really kind of, you know,

(22:47):
they, they don't know whichway to go.
They, they've been a militaryperson and then all of a sudden they're
civilian.
And it is a transitional period.
And how you transition is howmuch help you get, how much input
do you have from other onesthat have already done that.

(23:10):
Remember, if we going on atrip, we'd like to get a guide because
they've been on that tripbefore and they know where to go.
So it's more important thatyoung veterans that are getting out
talk to another veteranbecause they can guide us along.
A great thing happened to me.

(23:32):
My, my godson, who is my grand nephew.
We're really close.
We spent a lot of timetogether over the years.
He just graduated from, forthe army.
He's in the National Guard outof Fort Lawton in Oklahoma.

(23:53):
And he's, he's gonna be goingright after Christmas or the new
year.
He'll be going to heavyequipment operator school and he
eventually wants to be a minister.
But you know, we spent a lotof time in growing and in him growing
up together.
He helped me in the kitchenswith my catering company.

(24:17):
We took long trips to DeathValley and all over the, the state
of Nevada and into California.
And you know what?
It's such a joy for me to see that.
And in fact in all my familycircles because we've had mostly
girls.
He's, he's the first malethat's gone into the military.

(24:39):
I think that I personally knowthat's associated with my family
in over 50 years.
Wow.
Long time.
Wow.
And he did it right.
The right nick of time toobecause they just got that 17, you
know, 17.
$76,000 or $76 from.

(25:00):
Yeah.
President.
From President Trump.
So you know, you, you thatmade it, you know, if, if you don't
graduate within that 30 daymark, you know, you didn't do it.
So those that just signed upright now didn't make that?
I don't believe.
So.
I was talking to Mike, Mikedeleon from Recon Chief yesterday
about it.
His daughter just graduated as well.
So she got that money.
Okay.
Yeah.
They're gonna spend it on Christmas.

(25:21):
So for you guys, MerryChristmas to all the active duty.
What.
What an amazing thing that.
That.
That benefit is.
Yeah.
And it's so amazing.
You know, I was so blessedwith God when I got out, I took an
ojt.
You know my story.
But I took on the job trainingfor GI Bill for Vietnam veterans,

(25:46):
first one through for chef'straining in 1974.
And I belong to the Chef'sassociation, so I get a call back
in.
It was October, and agentleman was being transferred here
to Nellis Air Force Base.
And so he wanted to know howto get in the ACF.

(26:09):
He's been food, and he's.
He's gonna spend 20 to 30years in the Air Force, depending.
But he wanted to know how toget in the acf.
American Culinary Federation.
How he.
He could acquire some chef's training.

(26:29):
And he has a really large responsibility.
He feeds officers in his endeavor.
And so he said for theirChristmas party, they really wanted
pulled pork sandwiches onHawaiian rolls.
So I cooked him up two porkbutts and gave him the barbecue sauce

(26:55):
for about half the cost ofwhat it cost me, because I like to
donate back, and it was aroaring success.
But, you know, it's.
It's me having a chance togive back, even though I'm out of
the military, but I work withveterans and.
And, you know, it's joyful.
I remember in 1997, I got towork with, mentor the whole team

(27:21):
out at Nellis Air Force Base,and they won the John L. Hennessy
Award, which is best foodservice in the world for an Air Force
base.
And we won that award in 1997,and I mentored that team.
I taught them how to cut iceand ice sculptures and a lot of stuff.

(27:42):
And I still get goosebumpsbecause it's just God blessing me
to pass on things.
And.
And, you know, people say,well, you feed all these people,
like, 5,000, 10,000 people.
I said, I keep telling God,you know, and you keep me alive and

(28:04):
well, and I'll keep feedingyour kids, you know, and that's been
kind of the deal, and so far,it's worked well.
Outstanding.
Outstanding.
No, it's.
It's awesome.
And there's, you know, there'sjust a couple other things I, you
know, I just want to say.
I know, I know Christmas isrolling around, you know, and to
you female veterans, you areveterans, so don't, don't forget
that.
I mean, a lot of times youdon't acknowledge it enough.

(28:27):
And, and, and I want to say thanks.
Thanks for everybody's serviceout there, and whatever you're dealing
with, you're dealing with.
You don't have to justify itto necessarily anybody.
But, you know, just, just whatare you doing about it?
That's the most important thing.
I don't care what it's called.
You know, a lot of timespeople get all caught up in it, and
I've talked about that.
What are you doing about it?
That's really what's important.

(28:47):
And are you doing enough aboutit to be good on a path?
On a good enough path for you?
And I love, I love the path.
I want to know what yourpathway is, and if you want to share
that with me, if you want toshare that on this, this podcast
at some time.
I've talked to a lot ofveterans recently.
Paula Kemp from VeteranSister, she started that way back
when, and she wrote a bookshe's gonna be on at some point.

(29:09):
Really good person on herpart, and she's, she's helping veterans.
Some of the female veteransget there, other than honorable discharges,
kind of, kind of adjusted forthings that they didn't know about
at the time, and those thingsare getting adjusted.
So many other things that areimportant in life, you veterans are
doing and, and doing it and,and Brian Colburn, thanks.
Thanks for, thanks for helpingthis, this podcast out and make it
happen and behind the scenesand doing all the things you do,

(29:32):
brother.
And, and the, the heartaches,the hard, the hardships that you've
had to deal with at the end ofthis year.
I know you're going through alot, brother, and, and thanks for
still staying in the fightand, and being part of the mission
and, and you put me on this mission.
So.
Yeah, God bless you, brother.
Both of us.
Yeah.
And thank you.
Hats are off to you, Chef.

(29:53):
Thanks for everything you'redoing here.
And, and the VTRC and, and WarBill foundation, the PTSD foundation,
all the organizations I'm partof, Recon Chief incorporated.
So many other things out therethat are doing incredible things.
Chef, you got any last wordsbefore we go?
Just any veteran out there, ifyou talk into any organization and
all of a sudden they come upwith, well, this is going to cost

(30:15):
you this.
Don't deal with them.
Everything that is out therefor veterans, whether it be claims
or information, it's all free.
I mean, we do not chargeanybody for anything.
It's.
It's supposed to be given away.
It was given away freely to me.

(30:35):
I'm giving it away freely toeverybody I meet.
Well, that's good.
Thanks, Jeff.
Thanks for being here.
Thanks for the co host.
He actually does exist.
It's been three weeks, butuntil next time.
Hey, this is, this is AaronSiebert signing off.
Strength and honor.
Out, out.
The only way and we neednothing more.

(30:57):
The only way.
Together forever.
That's for sure.
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