October 31, 2025 • 44 mins
This week's episode begins with an engaging conversation among the guys, focusing on the intriguing topic of genres in cinema. They delve into the various ways to categorize movies, exploring the nuances that define each genre and how they intersect. The discussion highlights the importance of genres in shaping audience expectations and how they influence storytelling techniques. The guys share their personal favorites and the genres that resonate with them the most, sparking a lively debate about the merits and limitations of these classifications. They also touch upon the evolving nature of genres in modern filmmaking, considering how filmmakers often blend elements from multiple genres to create unique viewing experiences.As the conversation unfolds, the guys transition to discussing the first season of the popular series Alien Earth. They reflect on their initial impressions and the overall narrative arc of the season. Each member shares their thoughts on the character development, world-building, and thematic elements presented throughout the episodes. They analyze the storytelling techniques employed by the creators and how these contribute to the show's appeal. The guys express their feelings about the climax and resolution of the season, debating whether the ending met their expectations and what it meant for the characters moving forward. They also consider the show's potential for future seasons, speculating on possible plot developments and character arcs that could emerge based on the foundation laid in the premiere season.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
For a war in space, in space in space.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, but you could literally have a war, you know,
call the Call of Duty the movie, and it's just.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
A war movie. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
But that's again that.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's the primary that's the primary thing of it is
that it is a is a type of war movie.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, but it's a element it's a sci fi action movie, Joe,
because it takes place in space.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Sci fi movie.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
No, it's not. Because the primary thing is a sci
fi movie. Because they have laser swords, So it's sci
fi action. Sci fi is the first thing, Joe.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's an action sci fi movie though.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
No, because if you take the sci fi out of it,
what do you have If it's an action movie. Okay,
but if you add sci fi to it, it's a
no sci fi action. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You're literally contradicting your own statement from early on. Why
not iss you are?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's an action movie.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm saying that the primary elements of it is an
action movie.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Okay, Okay, So if you take the action out of it,
what is it?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, If you take the action out of it, it's
just a sci fi movie. There's nothing else in it.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, that's literally going against what you just said. So okay, okay,
So if you'd made a Call of Duty movie, right, okay,
so call of Duty, we're just gonna straight up this
like we're gonna say modern warfare to get it not
to be like World War two whatever, right, Okay, set
in modern times. If you were to give them laser
(01:39):
guns instead of bullet guns, what does it become.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
An action sci fi movie?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Okay? Okay, Now if you replace the.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
See I'm saying the sci fiess of it just to
described the area or era that it takes place in.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
But but then what okay, John Carter of The martis that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Would be if you say you want a World War
two movie? We know that's a that's an.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Action or a war movie, Okay, that.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Happens to take and take place in World War two.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
So what's the Final Countdown?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I don't know. Actually it's a song.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It's a movie that has time travel in it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I don't know this movie, So you don't know Final Countdown.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But they like modern modern technology gets pulled through a
portal back into like World War two or whatever, and shit,
so there's like jets and stuff or whatever, and battleships.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I literally don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Wow, they use this song well the ways that's where
that song comes I think't actually is that where that
song comes from? Or do they just use it?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Literally don't know this is a movie. I have no
idea anything about Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Anyways, I think you're incorrect, but you're also weirdly correct
in some things. Just not what you say. Sci fi
is in a category.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm not saying it's not a category, it's a subcategory.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's a descriptor of it's a descriptor of what the
movie is beyond. The primary descriptor is like a descriptor
of what era it takes place in.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
No, it's a type of movie. It is, though if
you were to become.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm thinking, I'm thinking about it like you could literally
put anything else in a sci fi.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Setting and it becomes a it's a setting. It's a
it's a it's a type of genre.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I could say a movie is an action movie and
you can think of explosions, people chasing things around, but
it takes place in a generic era an area. I'm
just saying, you put it in so you say that
it's a sci fi thing. Okay, now, I'm thinking spaceships, lasers,
this and that. If you say it's World War two,
I'm thinking tanks and blah blah blah and.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
This and that.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That's why I'm saying, it's more of a descriptor of
an era or era or or time or whatever that
it takes place in.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But it's not a primary thing.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
No, I think you're incorrect, because, like, it's fine if you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Think I'm incorrect. I'm just saying that that's the way
I can think of things in a different way.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a terrible way of thinking
about Joe.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Fair enough.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think you're incorrect, and you should be shamed for it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You should be that. I think there's an argument to
be made for it.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah. That's also if.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You just say something is sci fi, it's like cool,
that's that's nothing.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's nothing.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But if you were to say sci fi, right, I said, hey,
what's your favorite sci fi movie?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And it's just a descriptor of it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It is a secondary descriptor of something, so I can
pull something from it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Because I can say that Aliens is horror.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Sci fi, well, no alien alien would be a horror
sci fi Aliens.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Would be an action sci fi.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, but see then that also has horror elements.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Within my classification of like the primary thing is what
it is, and then sci fi is just a secondary
descriptor even a tertiary descriptor.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But when I think of Star Wars, even.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
When I say even when I say, like Jason X,
Jason X is a horror slasher sci.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Fi movie, which makes more sense because it's literally a
horror movie that just happens to take place in space.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But I would and yes, and I'm saying it when
you're looking at lists of things like I have no
problem with with with like IMDb. I looked at the
search of the Final Countdown, I MVB is going to
have multiple tags for something, which is perfectly fine. I'm
I want multiple tags for something so I can refine
my search for it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Of course, because it's it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Calls it a sea adventure time travel action adventure sci
fi movie.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's not a sci fi see you know, see adventure time.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's because it's the main thing is not sci fi.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Because sci fi is just more of a setting type
of thing. It's not a primary descriptor to.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Me in that movie, though, it is in any movie.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Now, you're incorrect, because if you just have sci fi,
you have nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
What do you mean you have nothing? You have science fiction?
What's star Trek?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Star Trek would be more of an action sci fi.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, you're dumb.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You're dumb because action is the primary thing that you're
looking for. If you're looking for a drama, your drama
is the primary thing.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're looking for. Horror. Horror is the primary thing you're
looking for. What else?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
We say suspense? Suspense would be the primary thing you're
looking for.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Sci fi.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't think I feel qualifies as a primary descriptor
because it's just a setting. It's a setting, it's a
time place type of thing. Yeah, that was a that
was somebody in.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Distress or just being a dick probably wants to lay
for someone else's lane.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Lyra does that? I mean she doesn't, you know, like
a cat.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, that'd be fucking weird.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That would be weird.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But she will like you get up, like I have
to go to the bathroom, Get up, come back, and
she's like, haha, you're warmth is mine.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
She needs a sweater, Joe, and she's trying to tell you.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And she does have jackets and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
She does have a sweater as well, but we don't
put the sweater on her really anymore. After the the
foot problem that she had where she got.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
What's that dust, the dust fungus disease that we have
in Arizona. Valley fever.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Valley fever and dogs sucks because it actually can cause
bone loss in the front.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Left leg, only the front left.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, it's weird, Okay, Yeah, that's how. That's one of
the reasons how.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
She got diagnosed with it was she started limping and
she started associating and that's she started limping in the
left leg. Adam took her in and this was this
was a few years ago. So she's fine now. But
the doctor was like, yeah, we took they took X
rays or whatever it is, and she's got a slight
(08:45):
bone loss in the left leg. And bone loss in
the left leg is a sign of valley fever and dogs.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Such a weird thing.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But with that, A, I think when it gets cold.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Outside, it starts to bother her a little bit more
because you can see her kind of like not limping,
but she'll favor it a little bit sometimes and b
when you try and we Adam had gotten her a
like sweatshirt to wear, as you know, because she used
to be able to wear clothes and be perfectly fine
with them.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But I think she started associating.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Foot pain with that type of clothing, and so we
try and put it on her. Now she just does
not want to do it anymore. But you can do
little jackets that that just kind of like, you know,
they'll grow around her.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
S ps P P PTSD s p TSD sweater post
traumatic syndrome symptoms, trying to make it sound not as
bad as actual PTSD post traumatic sweater disorder. There there
(09:54):
we do so you can still use the same same name. Yeah,
fucks off, Jimmy Johns and your pickle sunches.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Seriously.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Anyway, speaking of other stuff, we can finish this out
with other horror sci fi stuff here. I finished the
Alien Earth Show. I will admit that I'm a little
disappointed in the ending of it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I mean the stopping point, because it's definitely not an ending.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, I mean I was kind of fine with that,
to be honest with you, because I knew that, like
they're really coming to a head here, and it's like, okay,
You're it feels like you're about to close out this
story arc. What the hell would a season two be?
And they're like, ha ha, We're not going to close
out this story arc. It's like, okay, that's your season
two right there. No, my problem is that, And I
(10:50):
could feel it in the third to last episode, but
the second to last episode is obviously where it really
kicks off, and it's just like, Okay, this is Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
This is literally just Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Someone turned off all the pens stuff and started releasing
that the animals, not one but in some cases and
basically mankind just played with a thing that they shouldn't have,
thinking that they could control it type of thing, and
(11:27):
people tried to escape off the island, YadA, YadA, YadA.
I started actually get a little bored during it because
I was just like, man, we could have just done
something different.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But also nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But again you're.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Absolutely right, nothing happened. They tried escaping and then oh
they didn't escape.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, it's like this, like I don't know it. I
enjoyed it, but like also I wanted more out of it,
and it just felt like it stalled because they didn't
know where to go with it. Yeah, And I'm like,
you have a perfect opportunity for like a really classic
(12:06):
two paid armies going into each other and getting ripped
to shreds by an alien and then having to like
sort a team up, but also not because they didn't
want to trust each other whatever. Right, but it's like, nah,
you just have them get killed mostly off camera. Yeah. Uh.
And then like then I was like, Okay, they're gonna
(12:28):
do more like a thing of like then she's gonna
turn the alien on like the scientists and stuff, right,
and then like you didn't You didn't get to see
any of that, And I was.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Like, and that honestly started bothering me as well.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I know that they established it in earlier episodes that
she could communicate with the alien, but it was just
like it was starting to bother me that she had
some sort of.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Psychic link with it.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, this has.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Like never been established before. This is not like just
a weird it's a weird thing. She's not even real human,
she's techno organic type thing. And yes, she can communicate
with it and then like turbo communicate with it from
large distances and basically tell it to sneak through areas
(13:17):
like it started to get like, Okay, how do we
know that we're even communicating the right things with it?
You know, it started bothering me that it also just
turned into basically.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
A pet attack dog.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah. Well it took the it took the fear of
it out of the way because now our our protagonists
are just utilizing it as a as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, which I mean. And the other thing I was
gonna say is like the children or whatever you want
to call them, the Lost Boys as they're referred to.
They're the ones that I wanted to see start mastering
people versus the alien and you kind of a little bit.
But they Yeah, then it's like no, they just manhandle
(14:03):
them and like lock them up. Like no, they should
realize they have these crazy abilities, and they should they
should be the ones that are like literally tearing through
these soldiers. But then they're like, I get it in
their minds their children, right, scared children, blah blah blah. Right,
(14:23):
but like they should see the fact that like they
can bend metal, they can jump, They don't you know.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
They are you know, it is that realization of like, oh,
we're better than them, Yeah, we're stronger than them. Why
are they in.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Control, yeah, and it's like no, then they're just like, oh, well,
we'll have them be afraid of the alien.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm like, especially Wendy Jesus Christ right there at the end,
she's just fucking with all the systems and just flipping
through things, opening up stuff, and it's just like, Okay,
do you like you're in control?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah? Yeah, it was. There was parts of what I loved,
and then there was like the lack of fortitude and
like actual development of what was going on. And I
was like, are you like you doing this to set
up something which I don't understand what you be setting
up in the next season because you don't know if
(15:26):
it's gonna get that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Like the only hint I could I can see for
the next season is that the was it the the
black dude who was just like whaling you Tani the
c Yeah, but I mean, like I'm trying to finish
out the sentence and I can't think of it that basically,
there's more of them on the way there he mentioned.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, because they have the group.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The initial group group that landed. He's like, there are
more coming.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's like, okay, so I guess that's what second season
is going to be or maybe they're just going to
like handwave all that way and we're gonna be like
anyway five years from now or one year from now
or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I don't know, yeah, just because I what I thought
they were leading towards is like the fact that she
was she found a way to mimic and like become
their surrogate queen. Yeah right mm. But then like all
it was was like her just like just like it
(16:32):
was just her setting up to kill things like randomly, Like,
but what isn't the whole thing about the like the
Xenomorphs is like to pro create, like to push and
create more.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Of them create exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, So it's like why is it just killing things?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And that's yeah, and that leads into the problem, the
same problems that I've had with it, where it's just
like it stopped becoming horror at that point, it stopped
becoming an un you know, unstoppable force, and now it's
just a controllable weapon. It's it's like, oh you know, okay.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, I don't know. It's it's weird, like it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It shouldn't be controlled by anyone, It should just be
its own instinctual.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Thing, and I was waiting, willing.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
To gather up resources to make more, and I.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Was waiting for like it for the xenomorph to like
realize that she's not the queen and like turn on them, right,
and then you have these hybrids fighting an alien, which
is what I thought we're gonna get, and then like, no,
it's just a lap dog and a little lap dog puppy.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And I was like, and that's exactly what I would
have wanted as well. You could have thrown that in there.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Haha. You think you control me? No, don't.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
No, Like I don't want to eat these things. I
want to pop eggs in them and make more of me. Yes,
And it's like nah, dude, I was like yeah. I
was like like I don't want to say well no.
I was disappointed in it because it was like again,
like there was no anything happening. They were setting up
what I thought, like the last two episodes are gonna
(18:04):
be like this super action packed Wayling New Tani Army
versus the Neverland Ranch Army or whatever you want to
call them, right, and like then like they get they're
like fighting with each other, like they're trying to invade.
They're trying to stop them, and all of a sudden,
like a xenomorph pops in and starts like ripping people
through out of trees and stuff, and they're like, what
the fuck. And they're like, all right, so you're bad,
(18:26):
we get it. We want to take our stuff. This
thing seems real bad. We should all like go after
this thing, right, and they're like, nah, we're still gonna
go steal our stuff. I'm like, your stuff's trying to
kill you right.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Now, right.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And then our protagonists are literally just trying to survive
these two things or are these three things really?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, trying to escape.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
They're trying not to get captured or killed from the
other thing, and they're trying to avoid the xenomorphs that
are also hunting everybody down.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah. It's I don't know, man, it was. It was
disappointing in many ways. I wanted so much more out
of it, and I thought they were leading toward like something,
and then it just like that lackluster season or episode
or season finale. I was just like nothing happened, like nothing,
(19:23):
and like, okay, cool, Like I kind of don't care
if you get a second season now.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I mean, I hope it gets a second season because
it is something I do like and it's very well done.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
It was, yeah, it just wasn't. It didn't have anything
that was of substance in that first season that made
me want more of it. It's like, what you did
nothing in this Like you knew you had this many
episodes and you went from introducing these this new form
of humanity than the hybrids, you gave us cyborgs, which
(20:03):
maybe existed before. I'm not even too sure because I
don't remember a knife hand dude, or like a blowtorch guy, which,
by the way, I don't know where how his body
creates a blowtorch, but you know whatever, does he have
to refill it with propane, space propane or whatever? You know?
Does he have to drink gasoline and like his body
(20:24):
converts it into the I don't know whatever. I don't
need those answers. I just in my brain was like,
well I don't understand that at all. The blade, the
blowtorch thing, the knife thing, I understand, like you could
like it could be like just a Swiss army arm
Swiss arm Swiss Swiss army arm, Swiss army appendage whatever
(20:46):
you know, it could have like a like an AR
two D two like lock pick come out of it,
but like having a blow torch in it. I was like,
if it was electric, I would have been okay with it,
but it had a flame, which made me very like,
do you whyt don't you shoot that dude in his
arm because that's gonna explode, right, yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Would have to have just some sort of compressed gas.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
In there, Okay. Anyhow, anyway, but like they didn't go anywhere,
and then they're like, then like, oh, yeah, Whylan is
gonna send in her her fucking her army. I was like, fuck, yeah, dude,
we're gonna get like an army on an enemy battle.
And then it never fucking happened, mm hmm. And I
like and then they when that what I thought was
gonna happen is in that room where like they surrounded
(21:31):
the dude, right, they're like, hey, we got you, the
black guy, the cyborg. I was like, yeah, I was like,
all right, cool, Oh he doesn't have any soldiers. They're
not gonna come out of the woodwork and like start
a big firefight that like the hero of the procagonists
have to escape from, Like they just capture him. I
(21:51):
was like bro. This guy, Wow, this guy's the fucking
worst dude. He like he seems like he's like, oh, yeah,
I'm a skull bag scumbag because like all I care
about is the asset blah blah blah, and then is
like kind of an anti hero and then just a
scumbag again. And I was like, Okay, I never thought
he was gonna redeem himself. Like I was never like
(22:13):
in the like, oh he's gonna do something good right
now He's he's a scumbag the entire time, but like
he just seems really smart and then super dumb at
the same time. And I was like, why did you
walk into facility with with not another Like why didn't
you have more people with you to go into this
fucking facility that you know has deadly creatures in it
(22:34):
and you don't know, like you couldn't keep them contained.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
The other weird thing that I'm thinking about now as
we talk about it, is that when they arrived on
the island, it's daytime, would you do it like a covert.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Op like this at night? Oh? For sure, could really sneak.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Around and in doing so, when we talk about like
the alien is lose, you now have an invading army
and a defending army. You have you know, lights flickering everywhere,
Like it just adds to the horror element of it.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, but it didn't, like I don't know, it also
lacked the action element it did like yeah, because like
the your gunfire and it literally cuts away to another
character off in the distance that just hears it.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm like, show don't tell, or yeah, show don't tell
or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, it's like, bro, why why aren't we seeing this happen?
I get it. It probably costs money. Blah blah blah's like budget,
but that's that's like the whole thing is like when
you get especially towards the end of that season, you
should be doing what they did in the end of Alien,
which is full blown fucking alien just ripping people to
(23:52):
sheds on camera in front of you. And then these
people being completely like not ready for what it can
do because a bullet will tear through its body and
it won't stop. Like it's like, hey, by the way,
I don't have pain sensors. That doesn't really do much
for me.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I will say I had another problem with it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's probably the last thing I say while I do
enjoy the fact that the Aliens were very terrifying creatures.
There were so many times that that small armies had
that thing dead to rights.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It just didn't seem to kill it.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And we've established in the past that, I mean, which
would technically this show's future, that those rifles can just
cut through those things.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, well, you put enough hot lead down range and
you're gonna tear it apart. It can't run a few
can't run at you if it doesn't have legs, right,
And yet.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It seemed like they were either stormtroopers missing every time,
or somehow this thing is just took a couple of
hits and it's perfectly fine and didn't bleed acid all
over the place. Yeah, So I was like, I was
so confused by that.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And that's the other thing too, is like like you have.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
One alien versus a group of ten guys, and you're
telling me ten guys didn't get didn't hit this thing.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Like I would be okay with like crossfire and like
killing uh acid. Yeah, because you're terrified of this fucking
thing running around like jumping and slashing through your friends.
I'm gonna unload everything I have on.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
This thing by accident because you said I'm terrified, Like, oh.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Shit, this thing is just shit.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I hit Cody.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It's like, oh, well, well.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Cody, gonna just put a little blanket on that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It's fun, you know, put a little tent on it.
It's cool. It's you know, like you're gonna panic because
like you live in a futuristic world. I get it,
like you have how you have fucking sense that are
walking around and bleed milk and blah blah blah. Right,
but you've never seen this and when you see what
it does, because like that one like the on the dock,
(26:04):
when they like basically have it like have her dead
to rights, which bay a just shoot her? Uh It's
like why are like you can rebuild her, just shoot
her through the spine or something. It's fine. It's like no,
you have all these like a bunch of a handful
of these soldiers that survived it at least once already,
(26:25):
and they're like, nah, kill it, don't, don't, don't, let don't.
What what are you doing? And like I was like,
oh so dumb. But yeah, to your point too, was
like you're you're you're invading this island during the day, right,
which makes no sense whatsoever. Right, you go in at night,
(26:48):
and that would just add to way more cool scenes
of like sneaking up on people and knife them in
the throat whatever. Right, and then all of a sudden,
like a dude, you were knife and motherfuckers with is gone.
You're like hey, go yeah, and then you're like, all right,
well let's go this way, and all of a sudden,
(27:08):
like you find a part of vents, You're like, oh
my god, they killed Vince. And then like you know,
you're like, wait, where's the rest of Vince? And then
like you find an arm and a foot and half
a hand, You're like, wait, this wasn't done by it?
And then you get attacked by an alien and you
like start like even the whaling guys they have to
(27:29):
be panicking at that point, right, like yeah, but no
they're like that's fine, Like no, dude, like you you
even know what this is? Like you you were you're
being sent here for this asset? Did they not tell
their people? Like, by the way, this is what you're
going up against. Right, if you say anything to anybody,
you're dead. But also if you don't pay attention, you're dead.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Right, Like by this point, in time.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
They they are corporate people, Like you tell them exactly
what they're looking for, so they know what they're looking
for and they're up against It's like that's how this
world works.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It's corporations.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like if you're not a part of the corporation, you're
probably dead.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, it's it was so like they played within so
many rules but also like didn't actually like do anything
with it. I don't know. It's so weird to me. Yeah,
Like I literally thought they were like leading up to something,
and like I'm watching the last episode. I'm like, there's
twenty minutes left and nothing's happening in this fucking episode,
(28:31):
Like there's not like so far both military forces are
being torn apart by one one zenomorph and nobody can
get a shot on this thing. But like you did
it once before because you have the dead one that
you literally did this same thing too. I don't know.
(28:51):
It was so like lackluster, I guess is the word
I would use. I agree, there were so many cool
things about it, and it was just like squandered the
entire the entirety of that season. And I had other
problems too, like the fact that they have these essentially
children and military grade attack bodies, and then they just
(29:15):
send them out into a search and rescue thing with
just yeah, with like nothing to go by. I'm like,
and she somehow, for some reason pulls the the blade
off a paper cutter, which I don't know why she
has a paper cutter and magnets through her back, which
they never explain, and then she like really never uses it.
(29:40):
I'm like, I don't understand any of this. No, yeah,
I don't know. It was just it bothered me so
much on so many things. I was like, all right,
because I went to go watch the last three episodes,
I'm like, all right, this is gonna be like all
the cool shit's gonna happen. And then like then, like
that one episode, the first of the three ends, I
(30:01):
was like, Okay, you're setting up a lot of stuff.
And then the seventh happens, I was like, you're still
setting stuff up, but like the same stuff. Okay, So
I'm like, oh, eight, it's gonna be like an hour
and a half long. It's it's gonna be like NonStop
or dick. And then I get to the end, it's like, like
I said earlier, last twenty minutes, and I was like.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Disappointed.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
What what You're just gonna You're gonna put them in
the cage, and then you're not gonna lock the cage
because you're gonna put your attack dog in the tackpuppy.
They're like like Because then I thought maybe like she
had developed a way to then understand them as well,
so then they they could communicate to her like, hey,
(30:44):
we need to pump alien babies into these bodies so
we can make more of us. Do you want to
do that? And then she'd be like oh no, and
then it's like, well fuck you then, because you're not
our queen. But like she never really like because I
thought that's what they were working with. Like on like
she was like kind of understand them the other way,
you know, not just like oh hey, in the clickie
(31:06):
click voice, move your left foot and it did it.
She's like, oh cool, it understands me. Right, she didn't
try to understand it when it was replying back, and
I was like why.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Not, right, Yeah, that she could learn to translate their
language literally just be like it says it wants to
drink more ovaltine?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah? What? First off? What's ovaltine?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Anybody anybody also pregnate people's you know.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, it's like, oh, but also wants to put one
of them in them. That actually means I'm a child,
So I don't know what actually means, but that sounds fun. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It was.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
And her brother was so fucking stupid, dude, he's so naive.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
They're all naive though, That's the that's part of the problem,
is like I get it, they're kids too, but they're
all naive. And it's just like even her and just like, oh, no,
I can communicate with it and trust it, and it's
just like.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
No, you can't.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It just you literally just saw it like cut through
like people, and now you're.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Just like, no, don't kill it, Like what.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, I don't know, we can't do this anyway. I
could complain for a while. I still relatively enjoyed it,
but the first at least a few of the episodes
at the beginning obviously awesome, really felt like aliens, and
but just as it just kind of went on, I.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
It lost interest for me.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's probably why it took me a while to finish
the last two episodes, because I could feel that coming.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, I'm just losing interested.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
In it because I was like, yeah, no, I don't.
I don't. By the end of it, I was like
I don't care anymore. Yeah, Like I wasted. I felt
like I wasted my time getting to where at the
end there, I was like this just why why are
you doing this? Like, Noah, what are you doing? Like
(33:02):
did you get some notes that they wanted you to
leave everything wide open for no reason? Did they give
you Hey, by the way, we were like, well, we
have for like the first three episodes here, we're gonna
give you a season two. Stretch this out. It's like
or or you could make I don't even know. I
(33:25):
let's look up real quick and find out if they
said anything Alien Earth Nope, nope, nope, nope, no not
the novel. Where the fuck is the show at it is?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Read it as a three weeks ago, says still a renewal.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Update future, according to Serious cread to Know How They Work,
has not yet begun on a second season, but conversations
are ongoing fair enough. UH expects a renewal decision to
be made soon after the airing of the season finale
in sept For twenty third and another interview, Howy said
(34:08):
that he hopes to have a decision in the next
couple months. Okay, so that is a no cause Amazon
already would have given them two and three. Yeah, if
it were better, they would probably be like, oh yeah,
because like the thing is, I know you and I
had talked a little bit about it before, right, but
(34:28):
like I haven't heard any chatter about it online ever since,
like like the season finale or the series or maybe
season serious finale. But season finale ended, it was like
there was no one talking about it. There's no like,
oh this this, and I'm like and that's like I
went then. I was like, Okay, well, I guess I'll
watch these last three episodes. But nobody seems to be
(34:51):
really like there was promotional stuff right a season, season finale,
season finale, right, but like nobody's talking about, holy shit,
have you seen this? Well I can't wait. I'm like, oh,
this thing's a stinker. That's cool, that's cool, thank you,
thank you for making a lackluster like attempt at doing
(35:14):
something cool, which was I think you even said it before,
Like when we first found out about it. It's like,
why did we set this so far in the past
in that alien when you could do it in more
of a modern setting, not modern like you and I modern,
but like modern of the alien universe setting, and make
(35:36):
that's the first time aliens, the xenomorph has come to Earth.
It doesn't Why why would you make it before everything everything?
It doesn't. It almost doesn't make sense. But like and
even in this they don't even again don't even doesn't
make sense in the context, like, yeah, I guess if
it's contained to that island only, and they eliminit it
(35:59):
there and just like oh, yeah, no, the asset's gone.
We don't have any more of it, okay, but it's
like there's a record of it. Though, Like the whole
thing with with alien and aliens is they don't know
how to identify it. They don't know what this is.
And that's the whole thing with like Prometheus and and
(36:21):
Alien Covenant and stuff. It's they knew about the engineers,
but they didn't know how xenomorphs, right, So like that
would be like the discovering and obviously like that takes
place beforehand, and so Whale and Utani know about him,
but then why didn't they know about him when Ripley's
crew went out? Yeah, you know, and they they have
(36:44):
literal evidence of the of the ships. But when they
stumble upon one on that asteroid on them on the
or not asteroid, it's the moon, right technically, and they
and they see the ship, they should be like, Bro,
isn't that one of them ships? How about we don't
(37:05):
go into that. But it's like, no, you don't have records,
like you know, like what the fuck dide? Yeah, I
don't know. It was so bizarre to me. Yeah, but
that is what happens when you start, you know, trying
to add stuff to lore that doesn't need to be
added to And the thing, like I think you even
(37:27):
said it too, Like I think when we first started
talking about it after the show came out, you learn
about cyborg, you learn about hybrids, right, m that should
be a future thing. That shouldn't be a past thing.
This should be set.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Ways of the other movies.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, and like, if you think about it, like I
think hybrids are actually one of the worst decisions they
could have made with that because like, since obviously like
are a much better thing. I know you want to
extend life, right, I don't know why you're putting scared
children in those bodies.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
That was one thing I don't know either, Like is
it just because they are more.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I guess that, And I think that the lunatic kids, yeah,
because they could take they can experiment on them. Like yeah,
but you know you could do listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
You could do.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Is you could have put a scientist in one of
those bodies. I guarantee you you could have found a
scientist and be like, hey, we have a way to.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Make adult avatar.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah you know what I mean, Like, hey, we have
the way to put you in this body. You can
live forever and you can walk again, and we can yeah,
and we can give you a brain that's one of
the most powerful computers ever created. I guarantee you there's
a scientist in the in the workings that has like
constant hangnails, Like, yes, me, I want to live forever
(38:56):
and I don't want to get any of these fucking hangnails.
M h on all, So I want a supercomputer for
a brain.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Why are we putting sick, scared children in these bodies
and then not explaining anything to them? I was like,
why do I get the algorith the whole like it's
neverland And Peter Pannon is like but it's like, bro,
that should be the tipping point, and you should already
have a scientist going in one of those bodies because
you proved you can do it with Wendy. Put an
(39:25):
actual functional person in one of these bodies, or eight
functional people in these bodies. Why give them the children
at all? Like, if you said these children were savants,
they were like, you know, like they were prodigies. Unfortunately
they have like a disease. No, they were just like
rando kids they could just get rid of. And I
(39:46):
was like, that is the worst way of doing it.
This guy's not a genius. He's a fucking weirdo.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I did like the twist though, that his manservant was
a fucking synth though.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, I will say I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Because at first I thought they were gonna let us
know that he was like a hybrid as well.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
No, I thought he was full on human.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Oh I did too.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, for a full second there, I thought, uh, what's
his name? CEO is going to be.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Like, hey man, why don't you step into this container
I have over here?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Anyway, here's the sheep. Yeah, I'd be like, well that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, but yeah then it's like, oh, no, dude is
a hybrid, but I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well, no, I think he's a synth.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Do you think he's a synth?
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I think he's a synth?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Or I sorry, yeah, yeah, I didn't mean hybrid. I
meant y Yeah, I said yrid by mistake. Yeah, yeah,
that he's a synth.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
And then but then at the same time, then it
occurs to me, like, why aren't all the security people
like since then, because that would make more sense?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Could you? You could have literally all those all those
dudes with like.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
They take orders on command, just done.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
And Timothy the olfact could probably command.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Them, could command him.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
And it's like no, we put like again, why the
fuck are we putting squishies in? Like, no, dude, squishy
people are not.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
You've also established that's your thing, that's your corporation thing.
You know, the whaling utani is biological warfare blah blah
blah stuff and whatever corporation he is, I can't remember
what it is is since in hybrids, that's why they're
experimenting with the hybrids. They want to do the next
deflation of synths and people. But your thing is since
(41:31):
so yeah, you could have the scientists and the people
who have to think of things as squishy people, all
the C suite and the commanders, but every grunt down
could just be a synth and just whatever.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah, they're way way better at killing things and not
being killed by things than the squishy people are. And
also they don't get afraid exactly like you, like the
whole thing is like, oh, we're gonna sweep, and like
n they're like they're tentative and blah blah blah. A
synth would have literally just murdered everything in front of
(42:08):
it because that's what they do. And it's like you
have all these soldiers.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Back the el fan, Yeah, and he just keeps going like.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
He's like, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking
crawl my way over here. I'm gonna gnaw your face off,
like I'm gonna do whatever I can because I'm not
shut down yet. And but these other humans are like, oh,
I got my arm in a sling, so I'm just
gonna walk around.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Oh no, my my friend got captured by that fucking
barnacle thing.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
No, it's not a friend, it's a synth.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Just yeah, like I understand, you need some organic people
there for the aliens to like, you know, like eat whatever, right,
because like they well except for those one ones they
did want to eat sense, which was terrifying. But it's
like you you you are gonna have scared humans still,
but you're your fighting force should not be scared humans. Yeah,
(42:58):
there should be some, don't wrong. There should be some,
and then they should be like kind of weary of
like the milk you know, blood people, but they should
be like, ah whatever. And it's I don't know, it's
so like flawed in so many ways, but like had
so much potential, but it's like, I don't know. Can
(43:20):
you imagine if they would have put soldiers in the
fucking synth or in the hybrid bodies, you'd, like, yo,
a different.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Movie, and it might actually it'd be a different show
and you could do so much different stuff with it
rather than the plot point being scared children in wrecked
alien ship. Yeah, I mean it's not an alien ship technically,
but like aliens type.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. AnyWho, Uh, that's it
for this week's episode of Comes Naturally. We have been
joke Ivan Cody, and as usual, you fuckers just came
naturally Bye
For a war in space, in space in space.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yeah, but you could literally have a war, you know,
call the Call of Duty the movie, and it's just.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
A war movie. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (00:14):
But that's again that.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
It's the primary that's the primary thing of it is
that it is a is a type of war movie.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Yeah, but it's a element it's a sci fi action movie, Joe,
because it takes place in space.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
Sci fi movie.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
No, it's not. Because the primary thing is a sci
fi movie. Because they have laser swords, So it's sci
fi action. Sci fi is the first thing, Joe.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
It's an action sci fi movie though.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
No, because if you take the sci fi out of it,
what do you have If it's an action movie. Okay,
but if you add sci fi to it, it's a
no sci fi action. What the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 1 (00:57):
What is wrong with you?
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You're literally contradicting your own statement from early on. Why
not iss you are?
Speaker 1 (01:04):
It's an action movie.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
I'm saying that the primary elements of it is an
action movie.
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Okay, Okay, So if you take the action out of it,
what is it?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, If you take the action out of it, it's
just a sci fi movie. There's nothing else in it.
Speaker 3 (01:18):
Okay, that's literally going against what you just said. So okay, okay,
So if you'd made a Call of Duty movie, right, okay,
so call of Duty, we're just gonna straight up this
like we're gonna say modern warfare to get it not
to be like World War two whatever, right, Okay, set
in modern times. If you were to give them laser
(01:39):
guns instead of bullet guns, what does it become.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
An action sci fi movie?
Speaker 3 (01:44):
Okay? Okay, Now if you replace the.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
See I'm saying the sci fiess of it just to
described the area or era that it takes place in.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
But but then what okay, John Carter of The martis that.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Would be if you say you want a World War
two movie? We know that's a that's an.
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Action or a war movie, Okay, that.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Happens to take and take place in World War two.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
So what's the Final Countdown?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
I don't know. Actually it's a song.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
It's a movie that has time travel in it.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
I don't know this movie, So you don't know Final Countdown.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
But they like modern modern technology gets pulled through a
portal back into like World War two or whatever, and shit,
so there's like jets and stuff or whatever, and battleships.
Speaker 1 (02:35):
I literally don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:37):
Wow, they use this song well the ways that's where
that song comes I think't actually is that where that
song comes from? Or do they just use it?
Speaker 2 (02:43):
Literally don't know this is a movie. I have no
idea anything about Wow.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Joe.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
Anyways, I think you're incorrect, but you're also weirdly correct
in some things. Just not what you say. Sci fi
is in a category.
Speaker 1 (02:58):
I'm not saying it's not a category, it's a subcategory.
Speaker 2 (03:01):
It's a descriptor of it's a descriptor of what the
movie is beyond. The primary descriptor is like a descriptor
of what era it takes place in.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
No, it's a type of movie. It is, though if
you were to become.
Speaker 2 (03:19):
I'm thinking, I'm thinking about it like you could literally
put anything else in a sci fi.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
Setting and it becomes a it's a setting. It's a
it's a it's a type of genre.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
I could say a movie is an action movie and
you can think of explosions, people chasing things around, but
it takes place in a generic era an area. I'm
just saying, you put it in so you say that
it's a sci fi thing. Okay, now, I'm thinking spaceships, lasers,
this and that. If you say it's World War two,
I'm thinking tanks and blah blah blah and.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
This and that.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
That's why I'm saying, it's more of a descriptor of
an era or era or or time or whatever that
it takes place in.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
But it's not a primary thing.
Speaker 3 (04:06):
No, I think you're incorrect, because, like, it's fine if you.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Think I'm incorrect. I'm just saying that that's the way
I can think of things in a different way.
Speaker 3 (04:19):
Yeah, I don't know. That's a terrible way of thinking
about Joe.
Speaker 1 (04:22):
Fair enough.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
I think you're incorrect, and you should be shamed for it.
Speaker 1 (04:30):
You should be that. I think there's an argument to
be made for it.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
Yeah. That's also if.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
You just say something is sci fi, it's like cool,
that's that's nothing.
Speaker 1 (04:42):
It's nothing.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
But if you were to say sci fi, right, I said, hey,
what's your favorite sci fi movie?
Speaker 1 (04:52):
And it's just a descriptor of it.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
It is a secondary descriptor of something, so I can
pull something from it.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
Because I can say that Aliens is horror.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Sci fi, well, no alien alien would be a horror
sci fi Aliens.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
Would be an action sci fi.
Speaker 3 (05:16):
Yeah, but see then that also has horror elements.
Speaker 2 (05:20):
Within my classification of like the primary thing is what
it is, and then sci fi is just a secondary
descriptor even a tertiary descriptor.
Speaker 3 (05:31):
But when I think of Star Wars, even.
Speaker 2 (05:33):
When I say even when I say, like Jason X,
Jason X is a horror slasher sci.
Speaker 3 (05:40):
Fi movie, which makes more sense because it's literally a
horror movie that just happens to take place in space.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
But I would and yes, and I'm saying it when
you're looking at lists of things like I have no
problem with with with like IMDb. I looked at the
search of the Final Countdown, I MVB is going to
have multiple tags for something, which is perfectly fine. I'm
I want multiple tags for something so I can refine
my search for it.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
Of course, because it's it.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Calls it a sea adventure time travel action adventure sci
fi movie.
Speaker 1 (06:14):
It's not a sci fi see you know, see adventure time.
Speaker 3 (06:19):
It's because it's the main thing is not sci fi.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Because sci fi is just more of a setting type
of thing. It's not a primary descriptor to.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Me in that movie, though, it is in any movie.
Speaker 2 (06:31):
Now, you're incorrect, because if you just have sci fi,
you have nothing.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
What do you mean you have nothing? You have science fiction?
What's star Trek?
Speaker 1 (06:42):
Star Trek would be more of an action sci fi.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, you're dumb.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
You're dumb because action is the primary thing that you're
looking for. If you're looking for a drama, your drama
is the primary thing.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
You're looking for. Horror. Horror is the primary thing you're
looking for. What else?
Speaker 2 (07:00):
We say suspense? Suspense would be the primary thing you're
looking for.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Sci fi.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
I don't think I feel qualifies as a primary descriptor
because it's just a setting. It's a setting, it's a
time place type of thing. Yeah, that was a that
was somebody in.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Distress or just being a dick probably wants to lay
for someone else's lane.
Speaker 1 (07:33):
Lyra does that? I mean she doesn't, you know, like
a cat.
Speaker 3 (07:36):
Well, that'd be fucking weird.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
That would be weird.
Speaker 2 (07:39):
But she will like you get up, like I have
to go to the bathroom, Get up, come back, and
she's like, haha, you're warmth is mine.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
She needs a sweater, Joe, and she's trying to tell you.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
And she does have jackets and whatnot.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
She does have a sweater as well, but we don't
put the sweater on her really anymore. After the the
foot problem that she had where she got.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
What's that dust, the dust fungus disease that we have
in Arizona. Valley fever.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
Valley fever and dogs sucks because it actually can cause
bone loss in the front.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Left leg, only the front left.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Yeah, it's weird, Okay, Yeah, that's how. That's one of
the reasons how.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
She got diagnosed with it was she started limping and
she started associating and that's she started limping in the
left leg. Adam took her in and this was this
was a few years ago. So she's fine now. But
the doctor was like, yeah, we took they took X
rays or whatever it is, and she's got a slight
(08:45):
bone loss in the left leg. And bone loss in
the left leg is a sign of valley fever and dogs.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
Such a weird thing.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
But with that, A, I think when it gets cold.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
Outside, it starts to bother her a little bit more
because you can see her kind of like not limping,
but she'll favor it a little bit sometimes and b
when you try and we Adam had gotten her a
like sweatshirt to wear, as you know, because she used
to be able to wear clothes and be perfectly fine
with them.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
But I think she started associating.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Foot pain with that type of clothing, and so we
try and put it on her. Now she just does
not want to do it anymore. But you can do
little jackets that that just kind of like, you know,
they'll grow around her.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
S ps P P PTSD s p TSD sweater post
traumatic syndrome symptoms, trying to make it sound not as
bad as actual PTSD post traumatic sweater disorder. There there
(09:54):
we do so you can still use the same same name. Yeah,
fucks off, Jimmy Johns and your pickle sunches.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Seriously.
Speaker 2 (10:06):
Anyway, speaking of other stuff, we can finish this out
with other horror sci fi stuff here. I finished the
Alien Earth Show. I will admit that I'm a little
disappointed in the ending of it.
Speaker 3 (10:23):
I mean the stopping point, because it's definitely not an ending.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Yeah, I mean I was kind of fine with that,
to be honest with you, because I knew that, like
they're really coming to a head here, and it's like, okay,
You're it feels like you're about to close out this
story arc. What the hell would a season two be?
And they're like, ha ha, We're not going to close
out this story arc. It's like, okay, that's your season
two right there. No, my problem is that, And I
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could feel it in the third to last episode, but
the second to last episode is obviously where it really
kicks off, and it's just like, Okay, this is Jurassic Park.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
This is literally just Jurassic Park.
Speaker 2 (11:04):
Someone turned off all the pens stuff and started releasing
that the animals, not one but in some cases and
basically mankind just played with a thing that they shouldn't have,
thinking that they could control it type of thing, and
(11:27):
people tried to escape off the island, YadA, YadA, YadA.
I started actually get a little bored during it because
I was just like, man, we could have just done
something different.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But also nothing happened.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
But again you're.
Speaker 2 (11:39):
Absolutely right, nothing happened. They tried escaping and then oh
they didn't escape.
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, it's like this, like I don't know it. I
enjoyed it, but like also I wanted more out of it,
and it just felt like it stalled because they didn't
know where to go with it. Yeah, And I'm like,
you have a perfect opportunity for like a really classic
(12:06):
two paid armies going into each other and getting ripped
to shreds by an alien and then having to like
sort a team up, but also not because they didn't
want to trust each other whatever. Right, but it's like, nah,
you just have them get killed mostly off camera. Yeah. Uh.
And then like then I was like, Okay, they're gonna
(12:28):
do more like a thing of like then she's gonna
turn the alien on like the scientists and stuff, right,
and then like you didn't You didn't get to see
any of that, And I was.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Like, and that honestly started bothering me as well.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
I know that they established it in earlier episodes that
she could communicate with the alien, but it was just
like it was starting to bother me that she had
some sort of.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
Psychic link with it.
Speaker 3 (12:52):
Yeah, this has.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
Like never been established before. This is not like just
a weird it's a weird thing. She's not even real human,
she's techno organic type thing. And yes, she can communicate
with it and then like turbo communicate with it from
large distances and basically tell it to sneak through areas
(13:17):
like it started to get like, Okay, how do we
know that we're even communicating the right things with it?
You know, it started bothering me that it also just
turned into basically.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
A pet attack dog.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Yeah. Well it took the it took the fear of
it out of the way because now our our protagonists
are just utilizing it as a as a weapon.
Speaker 3 (13:41):
Yeah, which I mean. And the other thing I was
gonna say is like the children or whatever you want
to call them, the Lost Boys as they're referred to.
They're the ones that I wanted to see start mastering
people versus the alien and you kind of a little bit.
But they Yeah, then it's like no, they just manhandle
(14:03):
them and like lock them up. Like no, they should
realize they have these crazy abilities, and they should they
should be the ones that are like literally tearing through
these soldiers. But then they're like, I get it in
their minds their children, right, scared children, blah blah blah. Right,
(14:23):
but like they should see the fact that like they
can bend metal, they can jump, They don't you know.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
They are you know, it is that realization of like, oh,
we're better than them, Yeah, we're stronger than them. Why
are they in.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
Control, yeah, and it's like no, then they're just like, oh, well,
we'll have them be afraid of the alien.
Speaker 2 (14:48):
I'm like, especially Wendy Jesus Christ right there at the end,
she's just fucking with all the systems and just flipping
through things, opening up stuff, and it's just like, Okay,
do you like you're in control?
Speaker 3 (15:03):
Yeah? Yeah, it was. There was parts of what I loved,
and then there was like the lack of fortitude and
like actual development of what was going on. And I
was like, are you like you doing this to set
up something which I don't understand what you be setting
up in the next season because you don't know if
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it's gonna get that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
Like the only hint I could I can see for
the next season is that the was it the the
black dude who was just like whaling you Tani the
c Yeah, but I mean, like I'm trying to finish
out the sentence and I can't think of it that basically,
there's more of them on the way there he mentioned.
Speaker 3 (15:51):
Yeah, because they have the group.
Speaker 1 (15:52):
The initial group group that landed. He's like, there are
more coming.
Speaker 2 (15:57):
It's like, okay, so I guess that's what second season
is going to be or maybe they're just going to
like handwave all that way and we're gonna be like
anyway five years from now or one year from now
or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (16:10):
I don't know, yeah, just because I what I thought
they were leading towards is like the fact that she
was she found a way to mimic and like become
their surrogate queen. Yeah right mm. But then like all
it was was like her just like just like it
(16:32):
was just her setting up to kill things like randomly, Like,
but what isn't the whole thing about the like the
Xenomorphs is like to pro create, like to push and
create more.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Of them create exactly.
Speaker 3 (16:44):
Yeah, So it's like why is it just killing things?
Speaker 2 (16:47):
And that's yeah, and that leads into the problem, the
same problems that I've had with it, where it's just
like it stopped becoming horror at that point, it stopped
becoming an un you know, unstoppable force, and now it's
just a controllable weapon. It's it's like, oh you know, okay.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
Yeah, I don't know. It's it's weird, like it.
Speaker 2 (17:05):
It shouldn't be controlled by anyone, It should just be
its own instinctual.
Speaker 3 (17:10):
Thing, and I was waiting, willing.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
To gather up resources to make more, and I.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Was waiting for like it for the xenomorph to like
realize that she's not the queen and like turn on them, right,
and then you have these hybrids fighting an alien, which
is what I thought we're gonna get, and then like, no,
it's just a lap dog and a little lap dog puppy.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
And I was like, and that's exactly what I would
have wanted as well. You could have thrown that in there.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Haha. You think you control me? No, don't.
Speaker 3 (17:43):
No, Like I don't want to eat these things. I
want to pop eggs in them and make more of me. Yes,
And it's like nah, dude, I was like yeah. I
was like like I don't want to say well no.
I was disappointed in it because it was like again,
like there was no anything happening. They were setting up
what I thought, like the last two episodes are gonna
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be like this super action packed Wayling New Tani Army
versus the Neverland Ranch Army or whatever you want to
call them, right, and like then like they get they're
like fighting with each other, like they're trying to invade.
They're trying to stop them, and all of a sudden,
like a xenomorph pops in and starts like ripping people
through out of trees and stuff, and they're like, what
the fuck. And they're like, all right, so you're bad,
(18:26):
we get it. We want to take our stuff. This
thing seems real bad. We should all like go after
this thing, right, and they're like, nah, we're still gonna
go steal our stuff. I'm like, your stuff's trying to
kill you right.
Speaker 1 (18:38):
Now, right.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
And then our protagonists are literally just trying to survive
these two things or are these three things really?
Speaker 1 (18:46):
Yeah, trying to escape.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
They're trying not to get captured or killed from the
other thing, and they're trying to avoid the xenomorphs that
are also hunting everybody down.
Speaker 3 (18:54):
Yeah. It's I don't know, man, it was. It was
disappointing in many ways. I wanted so much more out
of it, and I thought they were leading toward like something,
and then it just like that lackluster season or episode
or season finale. I was just like nothing happened, like nothing,
(19:23):
and like, okay, cool, Like I kind of don't care
if you get a second season now.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
I mean, I hope it gets a second season because
it is something I do like and it's very well done.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
It was, yeah, it just wasn't. It didn't have anything
that was of substance in that first season that made
me want more of it. It's like, what you did
nothing in this Like you knew you had this many
episodes and you went from introducing these this new form
of humanity than the hybrids, you gave us cyborgs, which
(20:03):
maybe existed before. I'm not even too sure because I
don't remember a knife hand dude, or like a blowtorch guy, which,
by the way, I don't know where how his body
creates a blowtorch, but you know whatever, does he have
to refill it with propane, space propane or whatever? You know?
Does he have to drink gasoline and like his body
(20:24):
converts it into the I don't know whatever. I don't
need those answers. I just in my brain was like,
well I don't understand that at all. The blade, the
blowtorch thing, the knife thing, I understand, like you could
like it could be like just a Swiss army arm
Swiss arm Swiss Swiss army arm, Swiss army appendage whatever
(20:46):
you know, it could have like a like an AR
two D two like lock pick come out of it,
but like having a blow torch in it. I was like,
if it was electric, I would have been okay with it,
but it had a flame, which made me very like,
do you whyt don't you shoot that dude in his
arm because that's gonna explode, right, yeah, he.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
Would have to have just some sort of compressed gas.
Speaker 3 (21:07):
In there, Okay. Anyhow, anyway, but like they didn't go anywhere,
and then they're like, then like, oh, yeah, Whylan is
gonna send in her her fucking her army. I was like, fuck, yeah, dude,
we're gonna get like an army on an enemy battle.
And then it never fucking happened, mm hmm. And I
like and then they when that what I thought was
gonna happen is in that room where like they surrounded
(21:31):
the dude, right, they're like, hey, we got you, the
black guy, the cyborg. I was like, yeah, I was like,
all right, cool, Oh he doesn't have any soldiers. They're
not gonna come out of the woodwork and like start
a big firefight that like the hero of the procagonists
have to escape from, Like they just capture him. I
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was like bro. This guy, Wow, this guy's the fucking
worst dude. He like he seems like he's like, oh, yeah,
I'm a skull bag scumbag because like all I care
about is the asset blah blah blah, and then is
like kind of an anti hero and then just a
scumbag again. And I was like, Okay, I never thought
he was gonna redeem himself. Like I was never like
(22:13):
in the like, oh he's gonna do something good right
now He's he's a scumbag the entire time, but like
he just seems really smart and then super dumb at
the same time. And I was like, why did you
walk into facility with with not another Like why didn't
you have more people with you to go into this
fucking facility that you know has deadly creatures in it
(22:34):
and you don't know, like you couldn't keep them contained.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
The other weird thing that I'm thinking about now as
we talk about it, is that when they arrived on
the island, it's daytime, would you do it like a covert.
Speaker 1 (22:50):
Op like this at night? Oh? For sure, could really sneak.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
Around and in doing so, when we talk about like
the alien is lose, you now have an invading army
and a defending army. You have you know, lights flickering everywhere,
Like it just adds to the horror element of it.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, but it didn't, like I don't know, it also
lacked the action element it did like yeah, because like
the your gunfire and it literally cuts away to another
character off in the distance that just hears it.
Speaker 1 (23:26):
I'm like, show don't tell, or yeah, show don't tell
or whatever it is.
Speaker 3 (23:31):
Yeah, it's like, bro, why why aren't we seeing this happen?
I get it. It probably costs money. Blah blah blah's like budget,
but that's that's like the whole thing is like when
you get especially towards the end of that season, you
should be doing what they did in the end of Alien,
which is full blown fucking alien just ripping people to
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sheds on camera in front of you. And then these
people being completely like not ready for what it can
do because a bullet will tear through its body and
it won't stop. Like it's like, hey, by the way,
I don't have pain sensors. That doesn't really do much
for me.
Speaker 1 (24:11):
I will say I had another problem with it.
Speaker 2 (24:15):
It's probably the last thing I say while I do
enjoy the fact that the Aliens were very terrifying creatures.
There were so many times that that small armies had
that thing dead to rights.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
It just didn't seem to kill it.
Speaker 2 (24:29):
And we've established in the past that, I mean, which
would technically this show's future, that those rifles can just
cut through those things.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Yeah, well, you put enough hot lead down range and
you're gonna tear it apart. It can't run a few
can't run at you if it doesn't have legs, right,
And yet.
Speaker 2 (24:49):
It seemed like they were either stormtroopers missing every time,
or somehow this thing is just took a couple of
hits and it's perfectly fine and didn't bleed acid all
over the place. Yeah, So I was like, I was
so confused by that.
Speaker 3 (25:06):
And that's the other thing too, is like like you have.
Speaker 2 (25:08):
One alien versus a group of ten guys, and you're
telling me ten guys didn't get didn't hit this thing.
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Like I would be okay with like crossfire and like
killing uh acid. Yeah, because you're terrified of this fucking
thing running around like jumping and slashing through your friends.
I'm gonna unload everything I have on.
Speaker 2 (25:29):
This thing by accident because you said I'm terrified, Like, oh.
Speaker 3 (25:33):
Shit, this thing is just shit.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
I hit Cody.
Speaker 3 (25:36):
It's like, oh, well, well.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
Cody, gonna just put a little blanket on that.
Speaker 3 (25:41):
It's fun, you know, put a little tent on it.
It's cool. It's you know, like you're gonna panic because
like you live in a futuristic world. I get it,
like you have how you have fucking sense that are
walking around and bleed milk and blah blah blah. Right,
but you've never seen this and when you see what
it does, because like that one like the on the dock,
(26:04):
when they like basically have it like have her dead
to rights, which bay a just shoot her? Uh It's
like why are like you can rebuild her, just shoot
her through the spine or something. It's fine. It's like no,
you have all these like a bunch of a handful
of these soldiers that survived it at least once already,
(26:25):
and they're like, nah, kill it, don't, don't, don't, let don't.
What what are you doing? And like I was like,
oh so dumb. But yeah, to your point too, was
like you're you're you're invading this island during the day, right,
which makes no sense whatsoever. Right, you go in at night,
(26:48):
and that would just add to way more cool scenes
of like sneaking up on people and knife them in
the throat whatever. Right, and then all of a sudden,
like a dude, you were knife and motherfuckers with is gone.
You're like hey, go yeah, and then you're like, all right,
well let's go this way, and all of a sudden,
(27:08):
like you find a part of vents, You're like, oh
my god, they killed Vince. And then like you know,
you're like, wait, where's the rest of Vince? And then
like you find an arm and a foot and half
a hand, You're like, wait, this wasn't done by it?
And then you get attacked by an alien and you
like start like even the whaling guys they have to
(27:29):
be panicking at that point, right, like yeah, but no
they're like that's fine, Like no, dude, like you you
even know what this is? Like you you were you're
being sent here for this asset? Did they not tell
their people? Like, by the way, this is what you're
going up against. Right, if you say anything to anybody,
you're dead. But also if you don't pay attention, you're dead.
Speaker 1 (27:50):
Right, Like by this point, in time.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
They they are corporate people, Like you tell them exactly
what they're looking for, so they know what they're looking
for and they're up against It's like that's how this
world works.
Speaker 1 (28:00):
It's corporations.
Speaker 2 (28:02):
Like if you're not a part of the corporation, you're
probably dead.
Speaker 3 (28:07):
Yeah, it's it was so like they played within so
many rules but also like didn't actually like do anything
with it. I don't know. It's so weird to me. Yeah,
Like I literally thought they were like leading up to something,
and like I'm watching the last episode. I'm like, there's
twenty minutes left and nothing's happening in this fucking episode,
(28:31):
Like there's not like so far both military forces are
being torn apart by one one zenomorph and nobody can
get a shot on this thing. But like you did
it once before because you have the dead one that
you literally did this same thing too. I don't know.
(28:51):
It was so like lackluster, I guess is the word
I would use. I agree, there were so many cool
things about it, and it was just like squandered the
entire the entirety of that season. And I had other
problems too, like the fact that they have these essentially
children and military grade attack bodies, and then they just
(29:15):
send them out into a search and rescue thing with
just yeah, with like nothing to go by. I'm like,
and she somehow, for some reason pulls the the blade
off a paper cutter, which I don't know why she
has a paper cutter and magnets through her back, which
they never explain, and then she like really never uses it.
(29:40):
I'm like, I don't understand any of this. No, yeah,
I don't know. It was just it bothered me so
much on so many things. I was like, all right,
because I went to go watch the last three episodes,
I'm like, all right, this is gonna be like all
the cool shit's gonna happen. And then like then, like
that one episode, the first of the three ends, I
(30:01):
was like, Okay, you're setting up a lot of stuff.
And then the seventh happens, I was like, you're still
setting stuff up, but like the same stuff. Okay, So
I'm like, oh, eight, it's gonna be like an hour
and a half long. It's it's gonna be like NonStop
or dick. And then I get to the end, it's like, like
I said earlier, last twenty minutes, and I was like.
Speaker 1 (30:20):
Disappointed.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
What what You're just gonna You're gonna put them in
the cage, and then you're not gonna lock the cage
because you're gonna put your attack dog in the tackpuppy.
They're like like Because then I thought maybe like she
had developed a way to then understand them as well,
so then they they could communicate to her like, hey,
(30:44):
we need to pump alien babies into these bodies so
we can make more of us. Do you want to
do that? And then she'd be like oh no, and
then it's like, well fuck you then, because you're not
our queen. But like she never really like because I
thought that's what they were working with. Like on like
she was like kind of understand them the other way,
you know, not just like oh hey, in the clickie
(31:06):
click voice, move your left foot and it did it.
She's like, oh cool, it understands me. Right, she didn't
try to understand it when it was replying back, and
I was like why.
Speaker 2 (31:18):
Not, right, Yeah, that she could learn to translate their
language literally just be like it says it wants to
drink more ovaltine?
Speaker 1 (31:26):
What does that mean?
Speaker 3 (31:27):
Yeah? What? First off? What's ovaltine?
Speaker 1 (31:29):
Anybody anybody also pregnate people's you know.
Speaker 3 (31:34):
Yeah, it's like, oh, but also wants to put one
of them in them. That actually means I'm a child,
So I don't know what actually means, but that sounds fun. Yeah, yeah,
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (31:45):
It was.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
And her brother was so fucking stupid, dude, he's so naive.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
They're all naive though, That's the that's part of the problem,
is like I get it, they're kids too, but they're
all naive. And it's just like even her and just like, oh, no,
I can communicate with it and trust it, and it's
just like.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
No, you can't.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
It just you literally just saw it like cut through
like people, and now you're.
Speaker 1 (32:08):
Just like, no, don't kill it, Like what.
Speaker 2 (32:13):
Yeah, I don't know, we can't do this anyway. I
could complain for a while. I still relatively enjoyed it,
but the first at least a few of the episodes
at the beginning obviously awesome, really felt like aliens, and
but just as it just kind of went on, I.
Speaker 1 (32:31):
It lost interest for me.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
That's probably why it took me a while to finish
the last two episodes, because I could feel that coming.
Speaker 1 (32:37):
Yeah, I'm just losing interested.
Speaker 3 (32:39):
In it because I was like, yeah, no, I don't.
I don't. By the end of it, I was like
I don't care anymore. Yeah, Like I wasted. I felt
like I wasted my time getting to where at the
end there, I was like this just why why are
you doing this? Like, Noah, what are you doing? Like
(33:02):
did you get some notes that they wanted you to
leave everything wide open for no reason? Did they give
you Hey, by the way, we were like, well, we
have for like the first three episodes here, we're gonna
give you a season two. Stretch this out. It's like
or or you could make I don't even know. I
(33:25):
let's look up real quick and find out if they
said anything Alien Earth Nope, nope, nope, nope, no not
the novel. Where the fuck is the show at it is?
Speaker 1 (33:45):
Read it as a three weeks ago, says still a renewal.
Speaker 3 (33:47):
Update future, according to Serious cread to Know How They Work,
has not yet begun on a second season, but conversations
are ongoing fair enough. UH expects a renewal decision to
be made soon after the airing of the season finale
in sept For twenty third and another interview, Howy said
(34:08):
that he hopes to have a decision in the next
couple months. Okay, so that is a no cause Amazon
already would have given them two and three. Yeah, if
it were better, they would probably be like, oh yeah,
because like the thing is, I know you and I
had talked a little bit about it before, right, but
(34:28):
like I haven't heard any chatter about it online ever since,
like like the season finale or the series or maybe
season serious finale. But season finale ended, it was like
there was no one talking about it. There's no like,
oh this this, and I'm like and that's like I
went then. I was like, Okay, well, I guess I'll
watch these last three episodes. But nobody seems to be
(34:51):
really like there was promotional stuff right a season, season finale,
season finale, right, but like nobody's talking about, holy shit,
have you seen this? Well I can't wait. I'm like, oh,
this thing's a stinker. That's cool, that's cool, thank you,
thank you for making a lackluster like attempt at doing
(35:14):
something cool, which was I think you even said it before,
Like when we first found out about it. It's like,
why did we set this so far in the past
in that alien when you could do it in more
of a modern setting, not modern like you and I modern,
but like modern of the alien universe setting, and make
(35:36):
that's the first time aliens, the xenomorph has come to Earth.
It doesn't Why why would you make it before everything everything?
It doesn't. It almost doesn't make sense. But like and
even in this they don't even again don't even doesn't
make sense in the context, like, yeah, I guess if
it's contained to that island only, and they eliminit it
(35:59):
there and just like oh, yeah, no, the asset's gone.
We don't have any more of it, okay, but it's
like there's a record of it. Though, Like the whole
thing with with alien and aliens is they don't know
how to identify it. They don't know what this is.
And that's the whole thing with like Prometheus and and
(36:21):
Alien Covenant and stuff. It's they knew about the engineers,
but they didn't know how xenomorphs, right, So like that
would be like the discovering and obviously like that takes
place beforehand, and so Whale and Utani know about him,
but then why didn't they know about him when Ripley's
crew went out? Yeah, you know, and they they have
(36:44):
literal evidence of the of the ships. But when they
stumble upon one on that asteroid on them on the
or not asteroid, it's the moon, right technically, and they
and they see the ship, they should be like, Bro,
isn't that one of them ships? How about we don't
(37:05):
go into that. But it's like, no, you don't have records,
like you know, like what the fuck dide? Yeah, I
don't know. It was so bizarre to me. Yeah, but
that is what happens when you start, you know, trying
to add stuff to lore that doesn't need to be
added to And the thing, like I think you even
(37:27):
said it too, Like I think when we first started
talking about it after the show came out, you learn
about cyborg, you learn about hybrids, right, m that should
be a future thing. That shouldn't be a past thing.
This should be set.
Speaker 1 (37:42):
Ways of the other movies.
Speaker 3 (37:46):
Yeah, and like, if you think about it, like I
think hybrids are actually one of the worst decisions they
could have made with that because like, since obviously like
are a much better thing. I know you want to
extend life, right, I don't know why you're putting scared
children in those bodies.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
That was one thing I don't know either, Like is
it just because they are more.
Speaker 3 (38:09):
I guess that, And I think that the lunatic kids, yeah,
because they could take they can experiment on them. Like yeah,
but you know you could do listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1 (38:19):
You could do.
Speaker 3 (38:21):
Is you could have put a scientist in one of
those bodies. I guarantee you you could have found a
scientist and be like, hey, we have a way to.
Speaker 1 (38:32):
Make adult avatar.
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Yeah you know what I mean, Like, hey, we have
the way to put you in this body. You can
live forever and you can walk again, and we can yeah,
and we can give you a brain that's one of
the most powerful computers ever created. I guarantee you there's
a scientist in the in the workings that has like
constant hangnails, Like, yes, me, I want to live forever
(38:56):
and I don't want to get any of these fucking hangnails.
M h on all, So I want a supercomputer for
a brain.
Speaker 1 (39:02):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (39:02):
Why are we putting sick, scared children in these bodies
and then not explaining anything to them? I was like,
why do I get the algorith the whole like it's
neverland And Peter Pannon is like but it's like, bro,
that should be the tipping point, and you should already
have a scientist going in one of those bodies because
you proved you can do it with Wendy. Put an
(39:25):
actual functional person in one of these bodies, or eight
functional people in these bodies. Why give them the children
at all? Like, if you said these children were savants,
they were like, you know, like they were prodigies. Unfortunately
they have like a disease. No, they were just like
rando kids they could just get rid of. And I
(39:46):
was like, that is the worst way of doing it.
This guy's not a genius. He's a fucking weirdo.
Speaker 1 (39:54):
Definitely.
Speaker 3 (39:54):
I did like the twist though, that his manservant was
a fucking synth though.
Speaker 1 (39:59):
Yeah, I will say I didn't see that coming.
Speaker 3 (40:01):
Because at first I thought they were gonna let us
know that he was like a hybrid as well.
Speaker 1 (40:08):
No, I thought he was full on human.
Speaker 3 (40:10):
Oh I did too.
Speaker 1 (40:11):
Yeah, for a full second there, I thought, uh, what's
his name? CEO is going to be.
Speaker 2 (40:16):
Like, hey man, why don't you step into this container
I have over here?
Speaker 1 (40:20):
Anyway, here's the sheep. Yeah, I'd be like, well that's crazy.
Speaker 2 (40:25):
Yeah, but yeah then it's like, oh, no, dude is
a hybrid, but I guess that makes sense.
Speaker 3 (40:29):
Well, no, I think he's a synth.
Speaker 1 (40:31):
Do you think he's a synth?
Speaker 3 (40:32):
I think he's a synth?
Speaker 1 (40:33):
Or I sorry, yeah, yeah, I didn't mean hybrid. I
meant y Yeah, I said yrid by mistake. Yeah, yeah,
that he's a synth.
Speaker 2 (40:39):
And then but then at the same time, then it
occurs to me, like, why aren't all the security people
like since then, because that would make more sense?
Speaker 3 (40:48):
Could you? You could have literally all those all those
dudes with like.
Speaker 1 (40:53):
They take orders on command, just done.
Speaker 3 (40:56):
And Timothy the olfact could probably command.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
Them, could command him.
Speaker 3 (40:59):
And it's like no, we put like again, why the
fuck are we putting squishies in? Like, no, dude, squishy
people are not.
Speaker 2 (41:08):
You've also established that's your thing, that's your corporation thing.
You know, the whaling utani is biological warfare blah blah
blah stuff and whatever corporation he is, I can't remember
what it is is since in hybrids, that's why they're
experimenting with the hybrids. They want to do the next
deflation of synths and people. But your thing is since
(41:31):
so yeah, you could have the scientists and the people
who have to think of things as squishy people, all
the C suite and the commanders, but every grunt down
could just be a synth and just whatever.
Speaker 3 (41:47):
Yeah, they're way way better at killing things and not
being killed by things than the squishy people are. And
also they don't get afraid exactly like you, like the
whole thing is like, oh, we're gonna sweep, and like
n they're like they're tentative and blah blah blah. A
synth would have literally just murdered everything in front of
(42:08):
it because that's what they do. And it's like you
have all these soldiers.
Speaker 1 (42:14):
Back the el fan, Yeah, and he just keeps going like.
Speaker 3 (42:17):
He's like, no, I'm gonna, I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking
crawl my way over here. I'm gonna gnaw your face off,
like I'm gonna do whatever I can because I'm not
shut down yet. And but these other humans are like, oh,
I got my arm in a sling, so I'm just
gonna walk around.
Speaker 1 (42:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (42:31):
Oh no, my my friend got captured by that fucking
barnacle thing.
Speaker 1 (42:36):
No, it's not a friend, it's a synth.
Speaker 3 (42:38):
Just yeah, like I understand, you need some organic people
there for the aliens to like, you know, like eat whatever, right,
because like they well except for those one ones they
did want to eat sense, which was terrifying. But it's
like you you you are gonna have scared humans still,
but you're your fighting force should not be scared humans. Yeah,
(42:58):
there should be some, don't wrong. There should be some,
and then they should be like kind of weary of
like the milk you know, blood people, but they should
be like, ah whatever. And it's I don't know, it's
so like flawed in so many ways, but like had
so much potential, but it's like, I don't know. Can
(43:20):
you imagine if they would have put soldiers in the
fucking synth or in the hybrid bodies, you'd, like, yo,
a different.
Speaker 2 (43:28):
Movie, and it might actually it'd be a different show
and you could do so much different stuff with it
rather than the plot point being scared children in wrecked
alien ship. Yeah, I mean it's not an alien ship technically,
but like aliens type.
Speaker 3 (43:43):
Yeah, yeah, I agree, I agree. AnyWho, Uh, that's it
for this week's episode of Comes Naturally. We have been
joke Ivan Cody, and as usual, you fuckers just came
naturally Bye
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