November 7, 2025 • 64 mins
On this week's episode, the guys kick off the show with an engaging discussion about several intriguing movie news articles that have recently surfaced in the entertainment industry. They delve into the latest updates regarding upcoming film releases, casting announcements, and any exciting developments that could potentially pique the interest of movie enthusiasts. The conversation is lively, as they share their opinions on the implications of these news stories and what they might mean for the future of cinema.After thoroughly exploring the movie news landscape, the discussion seamlessly transitions to a highly anticipated topic: the newest television adaptation of a Stephen King novel, specifically titled IT: Welcome to Derry, which is set to premiere on HBO Max. The guys express their excitement and curiosity about this adaptation, considering the immense popularity and critical acclaim of the original IT films. They analyze the significance of the setting, Derry, Maine, a fictional town that serves as a backdrop for many of King's works, and discuss how this series will expand upon the lore and mythology established in the original story.Furthermore, they contemplate the creative choices made by the showrunners in bringing this adaptation to life, including casting decisions, production design, and potential plotlines that could diverge from the source material. The guys also reflect on the impact of Stephen King's storytelling and how his unique ability to blend horror with deep character development has influenced the genre as a whole. As they dive deeper into the subject, they share their hopes and predictions for the series, pondering how it will resonate with both long-time fans of King's work and newcomers alike.As the episode progresses, they invite listeners to share their thoughts on the adaptation and any expectations they might have, creating an interactive atmosphere that encourages audience engagement. Overall, this episode promises to be a rich exploration of both the latest happenings in the film industry and a thoughtful examination of a beloved literary adaptation, making it a must-listen for fans of movies and television alike.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yo, m hm hm ok right, here we go. There's
the screen. What's up, buddy, nothing, computers being slow sinking
(00:31):
everything up a shift just on the background, bullshit, that's
trying to sync up.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, no, right, all right, m hm m m.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Already there we go. Things are working the way you're
supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Noise.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'm trying to see if I had any news articles
that I was trying to remember.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I was just checking out myself. I didn't really
have anything. The only thing I had saved I didn't
fully read. But it's pretty self explanatory, just that Austin
Butler and Michael Lee Jordan are and talks to do Miami Vice.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Hell yeah, which is cool.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I didn't know that they were trying to reboot it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I was trying to reboot something. Yeah right, someone does
his rights.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's pretty self explanatory. It's cool. I like me, So
Michael B.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Jordan's It's not bad, not bad at all, not bad
at all.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That was pretty much all I had saved.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Okay, yeah, uh, how to how did Halloween go at
the house?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So I got later than I expected, not like super
late or whatever. Right, So we already had Knie for
the minimal tick or teers we usually get because our
street is dark as ship all the time. Mhm. But
I hadn't had time to buy a floodlight to like
(02:56):
put out front because we have Benny the skeleton, so
we have him set up and we have him powered.
But the only thing I have attacked to him is
the like that runs on him at night or in
the dark, would be his eyes. You can barely see it.
But our street's so damn dark because we have like
one street lamp, like ourn entire street right there, you
(03:18):
know that like nobody ever comes down there because nobody's
house has lace lit up or decorated. So like we
never really get any trick or treaters. And by the
time we got back to the house and I set
up the flood light to you know, bathe the front
of the house and lights of people would be like, hey,
there's you know, there's things going on here. Like I
(03:38):
don't think we had anybody show up after that. So
I think we got back to the house at like
quarter to seven or quarter after seven or something like that,
not late, Like we didn't get back at like nine thirty,
you know, plugged in, got got him up and running,
got the floodlight on. Looks cool as you saw the picture, uh,
(04:01):
and like literally nobody came by. It was funny too
because we're driving back because we went to the new
whole depot to see what they had left over because
you know, literally the day of right, and they didn't
really have a whole lot. But I needed a different
extension cord that had three plugs on it versus the
one that I had, So I bought that, and then
(04:24):
I was, uh, we're looking a couple of other things
and then nothing really great or whatever. Right, So then
we went home and got everything set up. But on
the way back from there, we drove through the neighborhood
and there was like large groups of like trick or treaters,
like like I was like, dang, okay, and like I
(04:47):
didn't know why. I mean, obviously don't know where they
came from or wherever they're going. So I was like,
I wonder if they're headed towards our area or away.
So we drove up, saw a smaller group in our
neighbors and I was like, oh shit, okay, went over,
talked to the parents and they're like, yeah, we've had
a few, but not a lot. I was like, well,
it's because the streets dark as shit. And then I
(05:08):
set up bending with this flood light and still didn't
get anybody. I was like, well, whatever, whatever jerks. Yeah, no,
he wants to give you freaking anyways, right.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I actually ended up calling out that day because I
was just like, you know what, I don't seven thirty
getting off. I'm like, I don't want to deal with
like crowds of kids all over the place, not even
necessarily in our area, because I know I have no
idea what it looked like this year. Just turned off
the lights and.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Locked herself away.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Locked ourselves away. I was like, man, I don't want
to be driving driving around at that time with all
the people just darting across the street and this and that.
And I was like, nah, I'm good. I actually ended
up calling out on Friday.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah. In that case, ended up playing some finishing or
not finishing. I was playing Resonable three that day. Started
watching Dairy Welcome to Dairy that night. Have you watched
it all at all?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
We watched the first episode.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Jesus Christ. That first episode, Wow, so good. Ten minutes
you have demon baby birth. I was like, what the
fuck are we doing? And then the way it ends
was just like, holy crap.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah, I guess I really wanted to talk about the
episode two because it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Kicks a little bit more of the story into gear,
but I will hold my tongue. I will just say
that I kind of guessed what was going on, kind.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Of kind of kind of kind of sort of.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Kind of sort of, but I'll uh, I guess I'll
have to hold on to that until next week. But yeah,
holy shit. Episode one cory as fuck. Yeah, and then
uh ends just gory as fuck, just with that demon
baby flying all over that theater, just killing the kids.
(07:19):
I almost thought that that that was a dream and
it's like, no, no, it's not a dream.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That really happened to those kids, they said, fuck it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It was so cool watching the show and going like, yes,
this this actually does have a direct link to the movie,
and just sitting there going like every I was just
looking at every little thing in the backgrounds and the foregrounds,
just like, oh shit, that's that's that. You see the
Paul Bunyan statue being built, and it's like that was
in the movie. You see God, what else was it
(07:53):
from the first episode?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
The reference all the references of the turtle, all the.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Reference to the turtle. Yeah, exactly. Oh man, it was
so fucking good. And I can't wait for them to
actually show penny Wise even in the second episode. No spoiler,
you don't see him. Obviously, scary shit happens, yep, but
you don't see him. I do question because this, uh
(08:28):
he comes out every twenty seven years, right, Yeah, and
it seems like the timeline does track from this time
to the movie when he comes out. How long does
he stay out? Is it like a number of kills
that he does or is it I could That's one
thing I couldn't remember.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I don't I don't remember remember the exact time frame,
but it's only like it's sound like eighteen months or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So it's a timed period.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah. I think it's because it's he only has so
much time until he can't interact with his avatar anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, That's the one thing I couldn't remember, is like,
what limits him from just staying in dairy, you know,
rather than just reappearing every twenty some years. Yeah, because
I was wondering, like it seems like because you look
at the movie and because we all know that he
feeds on fear.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, you look at.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The movie, mostly because I haven't read the book yet.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, okay, Awakening approximately eighteen months or year and a half.
I was right, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He steems to play with the kids more in the
movie rather than just outright killing kids, whereas in the
show it very much so goes like, yes, he screws
with him for a little bit, but like almost to me,
(10:08):
like the first kill, like maybe like obviously it seems
like the kids probably had some issues to begin with,
but like kills that kid like right away.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Uh and then you see, like you what you think
to be your your heroes quote unquote ah, but literally
kills two of them at the end of the at
the end of the episode. So I was wondering if
like three sorry I forgot about the little girl.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, yeah, wild.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Hand, the hand that the one little girl was holding
just the time.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So, yeah, I was just wondering, like, was he like
towards the end of his end of his cycle where
he's just I don't have to like, I'm not weak
right now. I've already fed on so much fear that
I can just killed indiscriminately or is he just like
more I don't know, just feeling more indiscriminately because like
(11:11):
when we see the movie, it almost feels like he's
like he's a little bit weaker, so he's just feeding
on the fear more rather than just the right killing
kids because he can't because he's just powerful.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, and I don't know, because I don't know where
this because I know they mentioned in the in the
episode that the one kid, Maddie, had been gone for
four months, right, so they said.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Remember the timeline, like they do a good job of
like sometimes putting like the time up on the date,
time up on the screen, and you're like, cool, I
know what this is happening. And then even into the
second episode, I was like, wait, when did this happen?
Like you didn't show me, like like is there a
time jump in between this? Like I didn't quite get it.
(11:59):
Some like sometimes they do a really good job of
showing like time jumps, and sometimes they don't.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, because the I know Andy mentioned in an interview
that the show has multiple timelines in it. Yeah, because
they're gonna jump back and forth, because they're gonna show
the origin of of Penny Wise Bob Gray, what you
wanna fucking callum? So I'm sure that's you know, obviously
(12:32):
we're gonna get some more time movement in the show.
But I know, the first episode obviously starts with Maddie's
disappearance and then ends at the at the theater, and
then I don't even know how what time frame the
(12:56):
military stuff is happening in because they haven't interacted with
anytime anything in Dairy yet, right, So I don't know
if that's at the same time or you know, because
again they don't interact with anybody in there yet because
he's mentioned how is he's waiting for his wife and
kid because they're getting a house in Dairy, right, we
(13:20):
just don't know when that goes into effect. Yeah, but
uh yeah, I enjoyed that first episode quite a bit.
I was literally like, right as the episode ended, page
like you okay, and I was like, yeah, why She's
like and I was like, didn't realize. I was literally
sitting on the edge of my couch and I was like,
(13:42):
oh my god, she's like Jesus, I was like this
that episode was fucking wild, dude.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It had weird tonal like swings as well, like you
would get like the most most like suspenseful thing ever.
As you're just sitting there like holding on for like
what's next. You know, I'm trying to remember bits of
the of the first episode, but you'd have something like
someone walking towards a dark you know, hallway or did
(14:10):
this didn't happen, but it's an example of it, and
you're just like, some shit's gonna happen, Some shit's gonna happen,
you know what's gonna happen, And then someone cracks a
joke and you're like, wait, what wait, this just took
a weird total change. Yeah, not bad, It was just
really weird on how it would just be like the
(14:30):
most intense, suspenseful thing ever, and then someone would crack
a joke and it would actually be kind of funny,
and you're like, huh, all right, I guess that's how
we're going to dispel this suspense.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Right there is just in a joke, you're setting you up, yeah,
setting up for a giant mutated fucking demon baby to
come out of the music man.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Mm hm, but what else?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It was such a good episode and it feels like
a really good connection in between to the movie. The
only weird thing I have about this is like we
all know that he doesn't get stopped here, so.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I think this is less of like.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So like, what what is the what is the arc
good to be? Like he doesn't get stopped, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I don't think it's so much. And I think that's
why it's Welcome to Dairy. Well, I want two things,
and Andy confirmed it welcome to Dairy because they're gonna
do They're gonna basically explain how penny Wise became or
showed up in Dairy, So that was kind of like
a welcome to Dairy type thing, but also like, uh,
(15:58):
what's his name? That the because that's Ah that is
the grandfather of the Mike from the It the because
he's the one that works on the dairy farm. And
(16:21):
so like they're basically said, I think it's more of
it's less about the kids besting penny Wise and more
of the town becoming the cesspool of of of hate
and and stuff. But also just like setting up the
the future obviously with Dick calleran and I believe they're
(16:46):
gonna give us the black spot fire that he talks
about in the Shining and then that Andy used partially
in chapter one when Mike is right right before he
(17:11):
gets attacked by the bullies, he's at the he's delivering
the meat at the at the.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Are.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
No, he's livering the milk, right, No, he's delivering meat.
What is he delivering meat?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't actually remember ways to deliver.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
And then the doors start banging around and like the
burnt hands and stuff come out. That's a reference to
the black Spot, so I know that, Like, that's probably
because they tease that in one of the trailers, so
we'll get to see that. So it's more of like
kind of an origin. I mean, it's a true prequel
(17:47):
because like we are we do know that uh well
we okay, sorry, we don't know the severity of what
the kids do and don't do with Penny in this
We know he doesn't get ultimately, well, we don't actually
even in the the book, we don't actually know if
(18:08):
Pennywise is dead, or we we know Pennywise might be dead.
We don't know if the entity has been stopped from
being able to breach into uh our world via the
whatever portal or thing that he can use to to
manifest the avatar, because we could later on down down
(18:32):
the Road find out that you know, they only killed
the avatar and he rebuilt, you know, repowered up for
another twenty seven years later, and because it was like, hey,
you just killed a pond. The queen is still on
the board, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
It's so hard not to talk about episode.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Too, I know, and I we were gonna watch it
last night, but a certain somebody is addicted to playing Pokemon.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Page.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, we did watch south Park last night though.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I watched south Park last night too. That Uh, that
was pretty fucking hilarious. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, we laughed a bunch.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I laughed so hard when they're like they're being haunted
by something and it's just like, oh my god, it's
it's that picture of Melania and in the corner with
the head down. I laughed so hard at that. Yeah,
and then just the whole episode where they're just talking
about south Park sucks because of the politics that they
started talking about, and it's just like that is so
(19:33):
fucking meta of south Park to do. I loved it
so much.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And then literally like Stan becomes his dad at the
with the whole crypto thing. I was like, oh my god, dude,
it's so great, so great.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
See else, I didn't do anything else yesterday, watch anything else?
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yeah, okay, I didn't finish Resident Evil yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
And well it was a quick game, pretty okay, like
paced wise, because sometimes those games can just drag on
for a long time. And I ended up beating the
game and which was kind of a kind of sucked
a little bit. Looking at the achievements for the game,
(20:46):
there's an achievement for beating the game in under five hours.
I beat it in five hours and six minutes. I
just missed it because of probably some boss battle that
just drowg one a little bit too long.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So I fitz Is, I'm sorry. I'm so. I found
this article that I was looking at before because I
was trying to find because there's multiple connections of characters
in Welcome to Dvery episode one, and I was trying
to find that if I think this is the article
I was reading before, but I was trying to see
(21:24):
if it stated the timeframe transports as nineteen sixty two,
exploring the previous cycle the titular characters were in of Terror,
so because then the movies it takes place in the eighties, right.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, I think we were doing the calculations last night.
Roughly if this because I think you said sixty two,
so twenty seven year years later, that means that it
would be nineteen eight nine, right.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Well, you gotta quate for the eighteen months though, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
That's why I said that it was. It's roughly, that's
what I'm saying. We don't know exactly when he started
in sixty two. If you're assuming that Maddie is like
the first kill, then it's twenty seven years about twenty
seven years later, so give or take eighteen months. Yeah,
(22:30):
so that means that he reappears somewhere between.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And ninety something.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Nineteen ninety would be if you added the eighteen months.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's what I'm saying, plus or minus, because he Maddie
could be towards the end of this could be taking
place halfway through or two thirds of the way through
his cycle as well. Yeah, year could have already passed.
Because they do show a little bit of a spoiler
in the second one. They do show that there is
missing kids already that they haven't talked about. Yeah, so
(23:12):
he's been going on for some time. But whether it's
halfway through his cycle, two thirds of the way through
the cycle, or even a third of the way through
the cycle, or a quarter of the way through a cycle,
or a math for action through the cycle. He's been
killing already, So nineteen eighty nine for the beginning of it,
(23:33):
unless I'm sure. I'm sure. Actually, if you look up,
when does it take place, probably is somewhere around nineteen
eighty nine, give or take eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Let's see plots in October of nineteen eighty eight, eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Okay, but again he's already did he start what was
the first killing following June?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Following June in nineteen eighty nine is when Bill and
his friends team up, So October of eighty eight, so
that's not even a full year yet at that point. Yeah,
(24:33):
so then oh yeah, that would make sense then because
if they're fighting in June of eighty nine, and obviously
he doesn't get to like they they defeat him as children,
but that would be towards the end of his eighteen months, yeah,
which would end in probably would would have ended in
(24:55):
ninety if he would it wasn't defeated or whatever, and
then obviously he re emerged just uh twenty seven years later. Yeah,
so yeah, that that does track with what it would
have been. So yeah, we don't know when this cycle started. Yeah,
(25:24):
interesting right anyway. So yeah, so uh in this talks
about the family connections. So obviously Mike Hanlin is in
the movies, Leroy Handlin uh is in the show. He's
(25:50):
the pilot h In the second episode, his twelve year
old son Will, which is Mike's father.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Are you gonna spoil the second episode for yourself? Because
that's why I didn't want to go into son there.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
We already knew that going ahead of time because I
figured out who his dad or when they said major Hanlon,
I was like, well, I know that is definitely.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Ah, there's definitely a lot of familial and other references
that show up in the second.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Episode because in Stanley Yuris's uncle was Teddy, who was
the little Jewish kid in this in episode one mm hmm,
(26:51):
I don't remember if there was. And obviously the apartment
building that the one girl lives in is where Beverly lived.
(27:12):
That was all I had on there. Oh, and then
the there's a reference to Bowers. I know that because
there's a picture of something that they show. M hmmmm.
That was in the the end of episode one, they
showed the coming up this season and Welcome to Dairy,
(27:35):
and they showed something that had the Bowers name on it.
I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
You'll see it in episode two.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, so that was cool because I was like, oh shit,
okay mcpoile's rule. I think that's all I found on
that one before, and I wasn't too sure if like, oh,
(28:02):
I mean, obviously you said earlier the Paul Bunyan thing.
But then one of one of the things I liked
is the reference to like the family that picks up Maddie,
you realize, like obviously very quickly, Uh, they're not a
real family. They're just you know, a manifestation of of
(28:28):
of it. Because I don't think he's again much like
what happens in the movie is penny Wise isn't the
direct connection to the kids. It's always something else that
has the potential to kill them. But obviously the Losers
(28:50):
Club gets a little more lucky and don't get eviscerated
by whatever that secondary. I guess those would be pawns.
Maybe if you're thinking Chess moves to penny Wise, who
is more the the the queen protecting the king, you know,
(29:11):
the crimson King maybe, but uh, because like in the movie,
in the Innima Chetty movies, Uh, Stanley, they each have
their own little you know, fear agent that comes after him. Obviously. Uh.
Georgie is is uh going after his brother, being used
(29:33):
against his brother. Beverly's dad is partially hers. There's the
the the the the creepy fucking thing outside the knee
boat house, the oh my god with missing nose and everything.
(29:56):
What are those called? Leper Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, yeah, because he was like afraid of sickness.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, yeah, he's a gemophobe. Yeah. You have the creepy
painting for Stanley.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Mike Handlon obviously is the whole like friends, the family
being burnt alive by racists. What else was there on
the clowns thing and obviously later on the Paul Bunyan statue,
(30:36):
So like those are like you know, obviously they're they're
building And again can't speak for episode two, but I
know that that was like kind of like the thing
with the with the demon baby in the family because
like obviously Maddie really didn't have a family. M So
like being haunted by this what he thought was the
perfect family. And then obviously like the girl pulls out
(30:56):
the thing a liver. I was like, oh my god,
I don't like that at all.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I forgot about that until you mentioned that again. Another
like such a perfect way to build suspense of just
like what the fuck is going on here? And then
she just pulls out raw like even on the container.
Didn't say like raw liver, and it's like, what the
fuck you just put raw liver on the container and
she's gonna eat that?
Speaker 6 (31:20):
She just slowly dips her hand in it and it.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Out and sniffs it, and then it's like, what's happening
ye here? And you have in the background the kids
spelling things just getting more and more. It's just, uh,
it just builds on itself, and then the whole family
is just doing it and this wildness just ensues. For
(31:44):
the freakin' baby being born. Uh, there's a scene again
I won't spoil it, and see in episode two where
they do is something similar where it's just like a
thing is happening for the story building, but in the background,
you just have this thing that is building up just
(32:06):
and it's just a thing that is just driving the suspense.
It's crazy, crazy well done.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah. Yeah, like the whole reference to the nuclear family,
you know, two point five kids, because there's two kids
and half a kid. And then the radio broadcast is
talking about, you know, mutation from nuclear fallout and how
it can affect pregnant women, and then she gives birth
(32:37):
to a fucking with two heads. Yeah, and I was like,
oh shit, okay, this is fucked up right. Yeah, it's
so funny too.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You just can't wait for more, more of this episode,
more of the season, because I do know, Like I
I managed to stay away from pretty much all trailers
for this thing, and except for parts of one where
I do know that they may mention of Shawshank Prison,
So it's like, what are we going to do with that?
You know? Where are we going to go in this show?
(33:09):
Do they have a plans to do like more seasons
or is it do you know if this is just
like a a singular one and done mini series type thing.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I think it's a mini series just because unless they
want to stretch it out, but I don't. I don't
think they really should.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But no, because the way it feels like it's going,
we are like I said before, we already know that
there's not going to be a good conclusion to this.
This is not something where they fight valiantly, valiantly and
beat it back.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It wins period. Yeah, it's just how does it win
along the way. So I do hope that that this
is just a mini series and then done, because they're
putting so much production into this thing too.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Like, yeah, extremely well done, So well done. I did
see someone did a slight fact check of when The
Music Man came out, uh huh, and it's uh, it didn't.
It didn't come out until later in nineteen sixty two.
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So somehow Darry got The music Man first.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Hey, test screening somewhere, you know, we see it nowadays. Hell,
I get invited to test screens all the time.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, because they I could explain.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Why there's you know, not very many people inside that theater.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Which with the arrival, very bad things begin to happen
in town. Blah blah blah. Well they updated the character
lists on there too. We're ring the fucking three boys
(35:02):
from the first or the yeah, the first, well, because
they're going to show up in other episodes as flashbacks,
I'm sure, but not nearly as much as you know,
Maddie probably is, but they're they're definitely not long for
the series. No, I'm trying to see if there's any
(35:23):
mention because it says it. It calls it Wiki Wikipedia.
I don't want to say this is the fucking end
all be all of it, but it says American supernatural
horror television series, so it calls it a television series.
Doesn't call it a mini series. Mhm.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I just wonder if ms Eddie has said anything about it.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I haven't seen anything yet, but I didn't want to
watch too many things.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, same here. That is a good thing about that
series two, well, at least the first two episodes so far,
is the pacing somewhat slow. It sometimes but realizing like
the first episode was fifty something minutes long, didn't feel
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like fifty something minutes long. When it ended, it just
kind of boom ends and you're like, wait, what we
were already done. It's like, no, it's been an hour.
It's like, holy shit, it's been an hour. And then
the second episode was an hour and six minutes long,
and again when it ends, it's just like, holy shit,
it's been an hour already. Like they've done a really
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good job at pacing out the episodes so far, not
making it feel like it is running for an hour
that I've had complaints with other shows that for some reason,
when it's an hour long, it man, it feels like
an hour long. You're just kind of drudging through things.
(36:56):
It's like, come on, let's get this going. Or the
exact opposite, which I felt with the murder Bot, where
it's like, this is a half hour long, and it's like, no,
it wasn't. This was ten minutes. You give me a
ten minute episode.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You cursed that show.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Joke that was I cursed that show. I did because
at that exact time. Well, because again, there have been
just so many shows that have come out that are
an hour long, and it's like, this shouldn't be an
hour long, Like this feels like too long. Not everything
needs to be an hour long. And so that's why
(37:30):
when murder Bot came out and it's like, cool, it's
a half hour long episodes. That'll be nice and doable,
and it is. Unfortunately, it's also well paced and fun
and interacted I just say interactive, but like engaging that
a now a half hour episode felt like it was
ten minutes and just went by like that. But I
think this is the type of show Welcome to Darry
(37:52):
that it paces things out, at least for the first
two episodes very well, gives you a lot of storytelling
going on, like the second episode. You get hints of
things in the first episode and then payoffs in the
second episode already, and it's like, oh, like I had
to shush at him for a second there because they
were like they were lower dumping something at a time
(38:14):
that he was talking.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I was like, no, no, sure, show your whole mouth four.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And I think I nailed I think I nailed it
right now what my theory is going on right now?
And it's like, oh my god, this is so good.
What the fuck? And then it episode that it ends
and you're like, holy shit, it's been an hour in
six minutes already, Holy crap. So it's so well paced,
and I hope that the rest of the episodes keep
this up because you know, this type of show, this
(38:42):
type of storytelling is is the exact reason why some
shows should be an hour long. But not every show
needs to be an hour long. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I don't think there should be a time limit. I
think they should because we're in the land of streaming now.
They should tailor the episode, have to.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Break things up, because otherwise you just invent a couch
potatoes that just have to pause in order.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
To No, I'm not saying you should make like a
two hour episode. I'm saying you should. You should formulate
your episode for what the portion of the story you're
trying to tell.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Oh, but that I can absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
You shouldn't try to limit to thirty You shouldn't try
to limit to an hour. If you want to make
it an hour and fourteen minutes, make an hour in
fourteen minutes. Don't go less than like thirty though, just
at that point combining two episodes, because like that's just too.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Short doing you literally are making just like a you know,
fifteen minute episode. What is that? That's That's nothing I
can agree with that. It'll be interesting the first show
that decides to do something like that. No, this this
small story arc that we're going to tell within this
larger story arc, that's a thirty minute episode, but this one,
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it's a forty five minute episode.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
That's what I'm saying, Like, you shouldn't have to because
we're not playing with commercial breaks, we're not playing with
ad breaks or whatever. You should literally plan out your
episode for what you're trying to do in that episode.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yes, I can agree with that. It'll be very interesting
this first show that can get away with that because
it does. It does get away from the people's thought
process of like, oh, this is only a thirty minute episode.
This show is only thirty minutes long. I have X
amount of time before you know why I need to
(40:38):
go do something. I can watch an episode of this.
You will have to be able to be like, oh no,
this episode is forty five minutes long. You'll have to
get people trained into being able to do something like that.
But that type of show will make a break whether
that in my opinion, whether that concept works or not.
So it has to be a good show in order
(40:59):
to get away it was something like that, because if
it does, if it's not a good show and it tanks,
no one's going to try that for a while.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Again, Yeah, because it You shouldn't have to to nowadays
dictate your storytelling just to fulfill your your time frame.
You should be able to tell your story the way
you want to, and there wasn't there was a show
that was doing that. What fuck show were we watching? Well,
(41:29):
like there was one episode was like forty five minutes
and another episode was like an hour and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I know, every once in a while you get stuff
like that because it's based like oh, this is the
this is the season finale, or something like that. We'll
make that one like an hour long. But for the
most part, the actual episodes themselves were like half hour or.
Speaker 6 (41:51):
An hour long.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
No, there was something recently that.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
But every episode was was drastically different.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, I don't know, fuck was it because I haven't
watched a whole lot of stuff lately, so.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I know that wasn't Alien Earth.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
So that's the thing that another thing, like thinking about
watching episode two, Alien Earth started out really well in
my opinion, and then kind of went down.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
A bit downhill. I'm really hoping that this doesn't do
that too. So far, it feels like it's not going to.
But we'll see what happens. Especially with episode three. You
kind of you know, you got that little bit of
a hook in episode one and two. You can't be
killing kids every single episode. You could, but it'd be
(42:43):
really weird to have attachment towards anybody.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, so IMDb, for some reason, uh lists that it's
gonna run for three seasons.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
How many episodes?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
So season one is the one that actually has more
than just one episode listed. I don't know where they're referenced.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Which is fine. We can kind of extrapolate how many
episodes per season, So.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
This says eight episodes for season one. Season two is
listed with one episode, so is season three, and weirdly enough,
it says episode two or season two. Episode one has
a not a release date, but a release a year
of twenty twenty seven. Interesting. So, yeah, so episode one
(43:34):
is fifty four minutes long. Episode two of season one
obviously is one hour six minutes. Season episode three is
listed at fifty eight minutes, Episode four is listened an
hour and two minutes, Episode five is listed at fifty
five minutes, and episode six, seven, and eight don't have
times yet.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
But I'd assume somewhere around an hour.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
So right around that bubble of an an hour a
little over an hour. Yeah, maybe season or episode eight
might be a little longer. We'll see what happens. But
if they do it properly, you can probably you know,
make it work.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
What you need to see should we do for two
extra seasons, Like obviously, you know this happens over the
course of eighteen months. We don't know how long it's
already been happening.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Well, but also we don't know, so there's no if.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
They're going to do more, Like you said this, at
least from the first two episodes, you don't get too
much of an idea that they're going to explore the
history of Pennywise. But if they are going to, you
can I don't know why I was timing myself for
six minutes, but it's been six minutes apparently, you know,
just letting you know. I guess they could just have
(44:48):
full blown episodes of just like Okay, this episode is
takes place in back in whatever, hundreds of years earlier,
because you know, at least from the movie they that
the first host was by what eighteen seventeen hundreds or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, because he's Bob Gray was a lot older, because
because they had the the there's this the the mine
explosion was not in recent years. That was like back
in the day they talked about the disaster. It happened
(45:26):
when Shawshank was being built, which is like I think
sometime in like the eighteen hundreds. So I think it'd
be interesting if we do if every if they do
plan it for three seasons, going back the twenty seven years,
so twenty seven years before nineteen sixty two, and then
(45:48):
keep going back to maybe being the origin, like showing
Bob Gray for the first time in those you know
CP tone photos and then the kids had in the
tree from the explosion. So interesting to see what they do.
But there's no mention right now that I can find
(46:12):
about anything more than just the one season, even though
I'MDB litterless three for some strange as are reason maybe
they know something we don't.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Maybe, Yeah, I can definitely see them doing that. They
just sprinkle in every season a little bit more of
an explanation of where he comes from, the history, you
have the military side of things, explaining more of what's
going on there, what secrets that they have involved. So
(46:52):
I can see them padding it out for three seasons.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, I wonder how they're gonna do it. Tell you
the truth, Well, you'll see.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
A little bit more in episode two. I will say that,
Like I said, there's there's a bunch of like questions
that appear that pop up in episode one that they
they immediately even though they open up more questions, they
do immediately pay off in episode two, and you're just like, ah, Okay,
I kind of see where this is going in this
(47:25):
side of things.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
There's a there's an actor in it called Dorian Gray.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
It's weirdly ominous, right, who is this person? He plays
a character named lover Boy Jack's does it say what episode?
Speaker 6 (47:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (47:54):
That was on Wikipedia? Okay, IMDb decided to not give
me much information fair enough other than just letting me
know that apparently there's gonna be three seasons. Again, I
don't know how they know this, but let's go to
the cast and look for Dorian Gray. If there's even
(48:17):
a picture of him, is it just gonna be like
a portrait of him?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I don't know. You'll have to find out.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I'm trying to find right now. Chad Rook, Clark, James Collins,
Uh no, uh'd be really hilarious. There wasn't a photo
(48:48):
of him on here? Know right, since there's a picture
of him, is his weakness? Oh? There he is Dorian Gray.
One episode? Trying to see what episode it was?
Speaker 6 (49:09):
You have an explanation for let's see if this actually
pays off.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Oh my god, this website's trash.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
What the hell he's in? He's an episode two.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Okay, so I've seen him, but I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
He must play, I don't know. It's a bold move
to name your kid Dorian Gray. I mean it could
be could be a chosen name series.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Which would be another bold move to just choose that name.
So there's a there's a wicked we should be a
Reddit article that in our slash Keith Stephen King from
ten months ago that says it welcome to Darry has
a three season plan, each season to be set in
a different.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Hear you, So they're all going backwards. Then.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Unfortunately, when you click on the link for this fiction
Horizon dot com, it just takes you to fiction Horizon
dot com. It doesn't take you to the article. And
I've never heard of fiction Horizon.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Welcome Sounds made Dairy.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
See if I can pull up the article real quick
and see if they have quotes from somebody, because otherwise,
besides this Reddit article, when you do the search for
Welcome to Dairy seasons, it doesn't pull up a whole
lot just a lot of people like oh, let's talk
about this episode. It's like, no, I don't want to
talk about it. There's a sci fi article how many
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seasons will or will there be?
Speaker 5 (50:54):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Our big arc involves three seasons mainly based on the
three critical cycles of Pennywise, which are in nineteen sixty two,
nineteen thirty five, and nineteen oh eight. And this is
from Andy. Yeah, so that's how they're going to do it.
So we will get a closure to this arc.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
But a closure to this arc that only leads us
to what we've already seen, and then going back to
give us another arc that explains to where we got
to to this arc.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
And then jumping back again to nineteen oh eight to
the third season.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
So nineteen oh eight is that I wonder if that's
when penny Wise technically or it technically.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Takes his Bob grade, that would track because that's I
would think that's thinking of what the pictures and stuff
look like that would probably be around that era. So okay,
So that explains things. It makes things a lot easier too.
(52:14):
It makes things a lot easier just to be like, okay,
so we're not trying to stretch out one story one
eighteen month period overseas over three seasons, trying to tell
three different stories about the same creature over three different
time periods, which will be really nice. It means that
they can really hone in and focus on the exact
(52:35):
things happening within this season's story arc, rather than just
being like, ooh, but we need to make two seasons,
so let's throw in some Viller here. No, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Hopefully they can stick the landing and make nice season
what it needs to be.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
I seriously hope so as well. And I'm hopeful based
on these first two episodes, I know that there's gonna
be Stephen King stuff that I you know, Easter eggs
that I didn't even catch on in the first two episodes.
But if the number of Easter eggs in the first
two episodes continues, I really wonder if they're really gonna
(53:19):
start like sewing up more King properties within this within
this show, just hinting at other things going on within
the grander scheme of things.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah, for sure, because I mean they obviously they can
sprinkle in all sorts of stuff that leads to them
like that references the movie too, which obviously references the
book because of the source material but it'll be interesting
(53:56):
to see what else they throw in for like obviously
the shank redemption, you got the turtle.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
In episode two, you got some stuff that I'm not
going to to uh to mention, I'm trying to remember
more stuff from episode one.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
I can't, but yeah, uh, I don't see anything.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
I was trying to see if there's someone had a
list of other ones that that's a terrible list that
the even mentioned the turtle, or the fact that Dick
Callerin is in the show, because.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
The turtle was like so like, I guess it was
a background character, but still like right there in a
shot where you're like, oh, it's a mascot turtle.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
It says it on the the Marquee when they go
into school. Obviously the turtles in the hallway because they're
referencing the nuclear war and now you're supposed to like
high underneath your desk blah blah blaha. You know, nuclear
fall that's not gonna be affect you if you're under
your desk, so you're turtling up right. And then obviously
her charm that she gets out of the crackerjack box
that she trades for is a turtle, so I mean
(55:28):
there's that. I mean, obviously in us Stephen King fans
know what the turtles are reference to m Let's see
this one has the seven. Well that's a horrible ad.
Thank you seven best Stephen King. Easter Eggs and welcome
(55:50):
to Dairy. This might go into season or episode two,
because that's fine whatever. A Uh the Handling family and
their connection to the Black Spot, okay, clearly because I
believe Mike's uncle, no great uncle in his I can't remember.
(56:20):
I think it's his dad's brother. I can't remember what
it is, and we'll find out. The Shining and Doctor
Sleep obviously to calerin other references to it, chapter one
and two are there are plenty of other nods and
films blah blah blah, which plays a key role in
(56:40):
Pennywise's origin series, features a black and white photo of
Bob Gray, one of Pennywise's human ally or aliases Jesus
from the novel, and shape shifting cosmic energy blah blah blah. Yeah, yeah,
a giant Paul Onion statue. EGLI viewers will also uh
(57:04):
see a spot of graffiti in the girl's bathroom. Oh yeah,
I saw that one too, Alvin uh, Alvin Marsh, which
is the Beverly's abusive father. I saw that, I was like, oh,
Marsh birtha turtle. Obviously this is duck and cover and
we're talking about that, hmm, a lego turtle. Yeah, that's
(57:30):
from the chapter one that was the whole thing. And
when it broke is when Pennywise almost got they almost
got him when he was cosplaying. Is Georgie? Is that
even the right term? Puppeting Georgie?
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, puppeting.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Let's see, we know what it's referencing. Jesus, Well, what
we do one of the twelve Guardians of the being
the Dark Tower series. It's just a long explanation of
that Shawshank prison, the Juniper Hills Asylum. Finally, the cinema
(58:18):
first episode, Oh, I guess, I guess that could be
a reference to carry oh because it's top of the theater. Okay,
I thought they're talking about the girl covered in blood,
it says Finally the cinema prominently featured in the first
(58:43):
episode of it. Welcome to Dairy is a capital theater
of real life cinema based on based in Burlington, Iowa.
Closed its doors in March of nineteen seventy seven. The
historic Art Deco Theater's final screening was carry That's kind
of cool. Yeah, that's more of like a pan homage
(59:06):
to something. That's all they have listed here as the
top seven references or easter eggs. It's weird that they
mention Mike Hanlon's connection to the Black Spot. They don't
mention Stanley Euris's dead uncle who was murdered in a
(59:28):
movie theater late at night with two of his with
his friend and his friend's sister. That would be I
would think that would be a pretty good Easter egg
because Stanley eras much like the Hanlan family, is a
linear or a legacy character down the line. He's a
little bitch ass who fucking takes the coward's way out,
(59:49):
but we're not gonna fucking go there. I don't blame
him also because then when he was a child fighting
in the sewers, he was mostly swallowed by a creature
out of a painting that could probably fuck with you
a little bit. So just taking your own life in
your bathtub once you get the call to go back,
Darry probably is not completely out of the norm, right,
(01:00:10):
but still a bitch ass way of doing it, exploring
the events leading up to the pivotal moment. Lee Roy
will all also be working alongside none other than the
Shinings Dick callerin another co founder of the establishment. Okay,
so his Mike's Hanlin's father or grandfather Ben? No, that's
(01:00:38):
not that's Ben Hancoms. That's where is it? Yeah, his
grandfather was one of the co founders of the Black
Spot with Dick callerin which obviously was torched by a
bunch of racists. Okay, cool, So they're changing it because,
(01:01:07):
like obviously, they altered it in the movie from what
the book was to make Mike's grandfather Lee Roy die
at the mean I guess he dies at the Black
Spots spoiler alert. I don't know. Interesting, I guess we'll
find out. Yeah, but your good old Dick hallerin being featured.
(01:01:30):
And this is pretty cool. The fact they talked about
the his gift the shine. Dick is a dairy, isn't Darie,
Because Dick fucked up And that's the truth. You'll see
and see the show and get and you'll get that.
That's pretty fun. That's a quote from uh from the actor. Okay,
(01:01:57):
When asked why Dick Callery is in there well, because
he was mentioned of being being stationed in dairy uh
in the book or in shining, So that's why I
think that's really it. I have one other story, but
(01:02:18):
I don't think you ever read the comic book, so
it doesn't matter. I sent you the article before about
Southern bassaard's being picked up or being having a pilot
ordered from Hulu, I have not. It's a Jason Aaron book.
It's kind of like Rambo in a way, but.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
It's about this.
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
War veteran whose name excase me, I can't remember her name.
But she goes back to her hometown in the South,
and actually it was kind of like punish her too
in a way a little bit too, which is very
similar to Rambo. I don't know why those differentiate each other.
(01:03:08):
But she goes back and her her father has gone missing,
and she stumbles upon the fact that there's an organized
there's organized crime happening.
Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I this might be a spoiler, but everyone forget by
the time it comes out.
Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
She finds out that the the leader of the organization
is the head coach of the football team Okay, and
he uses his influence in the town uh, to bring
people into his organization. But a lot of racist stuff
happens and it's a really good story. Okay, but yeah,
(01:03:47):
that's about That's about all I really had. Cool, So
that'll be it for this week's episode. Comes naturally. We
have been I've been a Cody, a coach.
Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I've been Cody.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I have been a Cody. Uh And as usual, you
fuckers just came naturally.
Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
Bye.
Yo, m hm hm ok right, here we go. There's
the screen. What's up, buddy, nothing, computers being slow sinking
(00:31):
everything up a shift just on the background, bullshit, that's
trying to sync up.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
No, no, right, all right, m hm m m.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Already there we go. Things are working the way you're
supposed to go.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
Noise.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
I'm trying to see if I had any news articles
that I was trying to remember.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Yeah, I was just checking out myself. I didn't really
have anything. The only thing I had saved I didn't
fully read. But it's pretty self explanatory, just that Austin
Butler and Michael Lee Jordan are and talks to do Miami Vice.
Speaker 3 (01:48):
Hell yeah, which is cool.
Speaker 2 (01:53):
I didn't know that they were trying to reboot it.
Speaker 1 (01:56):
I was trying to reboot something. Yeah right, someone does
his rights.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
It's pretty self explanatory. It's cool. I like me, So
Michael B.
Speaker 1 (02:05):
Jordan's It's not bad, not bad at all, not bad
at all.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
That was pretty much all I had saved.
Speaker 3 (02:17):
Okay, yeah, uh, how to how did Halloween go at
the house?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
So I got later than I expected, not like super
late or whatever. Right, So we already had Knie for
the minimal tick or teers we usually get because our
street is dark as ship all the time. Mhm. But
I hadn't had time to buy a floodlight to like
(02:56):
put out front because we have Benny the skeleton, so
we have him set up and we have him powered.
But the only thing I have attacked to him is
the like that runs on him at night or in
the dark, would be his eyes. You can barely see it.
But our street's so damn dark because we have like
one street lamp, like ourn entire street right there, you
(03:18):
know that like nobody ever comes down there because nobody's
house has lace lit up or decorated. So like we
never really get any trick or treaters. And by the
time we got back to the house and I set
up the flood light to you know, bathe the front
of the house and lights of people would be like, hey,
there's you know, there's things going on here. Like I
(03:38):
don't think we had anybody show up after that. So
I think we got back to the house at like
quarter to seven or quarter after seven or something like that,
not late, Like we didn't get back at like nine thirty,
you know, plugged in, got got him up and running,
got the floodlight on. Looks cool as you saw the picture, uh,
(04:01):
and like literally nobody came by. It was funny too
because we're driving back because we went to the new
whole depot to see what they had left over because
you know, literally the day of right, and they didn't
really have a whole lot. But I needed a different
extension cord that had three plugs on it versus the
one that I had, So I bought that, and then
(04:24):
I was, uh, we're looking a couple of other things
and then nothing really great or whatever. Right, So then
we went home and got everything set up. But on
the way back from there, we drove through the neighborhood
and there was like large groups of like trick or treaters,
like like I was like, dang, okay, and like I
(04:47):
didn't know why. I mean, obviously don't know where they
came from or wherever they're going. So I was like,
I wonder if they're headed towards our area or away.
So we drove up, saw a smaller group in our
neighbors and I was like, oh shit, okay, went over,
talked to the parents and they're like, yeah, we've had
a few, but not a lot. I was like, well,
it's because the streets dark as shit. And then I
(05:08):
set up bending with this flood light and still didn't
get anybody. I was like, well, whatever, whatever jerks. Yeah, no,
he wants to give you freaking anyways, right.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
I actually ended up calling out that day because I
was just like, you know what, I don't seven thirty
getting off. I'm like, I don't want to deal with
like crowds of kids all over the place, not even
necessarily in our area, because I know I have no
idea what it looked like this year. Just turned off
the lights and.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Locked herself away.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Locked ourselves away. I was like, man, I don't want
to be driving driving around at that time with all
the people just darting across the street and this and that.
And I was like, nah, I'm good. I actually ended
up calling out on Friday.
Speaker 1 (05:57):
Nice.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
Yeah. In that case, ended up playing some finishing or
not finishing. I was playing Resonable three that day. Started
watching Dairy Welcome to Dairy that night. Have you watched
it all at all?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
We watched the first episode.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Jesus Christ. That first episode, Wow, so good. Ten minutes
you have demon baby birth. I was like, what the
fuck are we doing? And then the way it ends
was just like, holy crap.
Speaker 4 (06:36):
Yeah, I guess I really wanted to talk about the
episode two because it.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Kicks a little bit more of the story into gear,
but I will hold my tongue. I will just say
that I kind of guessed what was going on, kind.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Of kind of kind of kind of sort of.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Kind of sort of, but I'll uh, I guess I'll
have to hold on to that until next week. But yeah,
holy shit. Episode one cory as fuck. Yeah, and then
uh ends just gory as fuck, just with that demon
baby flying all over that theater, just killing the kids.
(07:19):
I almost thought that that that was a dream and
it's like, no, no, it's not a dream.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
That really happened to those kids, they said, fuck it.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
It was so cool watching the show and going like, yes,
this this actually does have a direct link to the movie,
and just sitting there going like every I was just
looking at every little thing in the backgrounds and the foregrounds,
just like, oh shit, that's that's that. You see the
Paul Bunyan statue being built, and it's like that was
in the movie. You see God, what else was it
(07:53):
from the first episode?
Speaker 5 (07:56):
Uh?
Speaker 1 (07:57):
The reference all the references of the turtle, all the.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
Reference to the turtle. Yeah, exactly. Oh man, it was
so fucking good. And I can't wait for them to
actually show penny Wise even in the second episode. No spoiler,
you don't see him. Obviously, scary shit happens, yep, but
you don't see him. I do question because this, uh
(08:28):
he comes out every twenty seven years, right, Yeah, and
it seems like the timeline does track from this time
to the movie when he comes out. How long does
he stay out? Is it like a number of kills
that he does or is it I could That's one
thing I couldn't remember.
Speaker 1 (08:49):
I don't I don't remember remember the exact time frame,
but it's only like it's sound like eighteen months or
something like that.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
So it's a timed period.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Yeah. I think it's because it's he only has so
much time until he can't interact with his avatar anymore.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Okay, That's the one thing I couldn't remember, is like,
what limits him from just staying in dairy, you know,
rather than just reappearing every twenty some years. Yeah, because
I was wondering, like it seems like because you look
at the movie and because we all know that he
feeds on fear.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
Yeah, you look at.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
The movie, mostly because I haven't read the book yet.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Yeah, okay, Awakening approximately eighteen months or year and a half.
I was right, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
He steems to play with the kids more in the
movie rather than just outright killing kids, whereas in the
show it very much so goes like, yes, he screws
with him for a little bit, but like almost to me,
(10:08):
like the first kill, like maybe like obviously it seems
like the kids probably had some issues to begin with,
but like kills that kid like right away.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
Uh and then you see, like you what you think
to be your your heroes quote unquote ah, but literally
kills two of them at the end of the at
the end of the episode. So I was wondering if
like three sorry I forgot about the little girl.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
Yeah, yeah, wild.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
Hand, the hand that the one little girl was holding
just the time.
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
So, yeah, I was just wondering, like, was he like
towards the end of his end of his cycle where
he's just I don't have to like, I'm not weak
right now. I've already fed on so much fear that
I can just killed indiscriminately or is he just like
more I don't know, just feeling more indiscriminately because like
(11:11):
when we see the movie, it almost feels like he's
like he's a little bit weaker, so he's just feeding
on the fear more rather than just the right killing
kids because he can't because he's just powerful.
Speaker 1 (11:21):
Yeah, and I don't know, because I don't know where
this because I know they mentioned in the in the
episode that the one kid, Maddie, had been gone for
four months, right, so they said.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Remember the timeline, like they do a good job of
like sometimes putting like the time up on the date,
time up on the screen, and you're like, cool, I
know what this is happening. And then even into the
second episode, I was like, wait, when did this happen?
Like you didn't show me, like like is there a
time jump in between this? Like I didn't quite get it.
(11:59):
Some like sometimes they do a really good job of
showing like time jumps, and sometimes they don't.
Speaker 1 (12:06):
Yeah, because the I know Andy mentioned in an interview
that the show has multiple timelines in it. Yeah, because
they're gonna jump back and forth, because they're gonna show
the origin of of Penny Wise Bob Gray, what you
wanna fucking callum? So I'm sure that's you know, obviously
(12:32):
we're gonna get some more time movement in the show.
But I know, the first episode obviously starts with Maddie's
disappearance and then ends at the at the theater, and
then I don't even know how what time frame the
(12:56):
military stuff is happening in because they haven't interacted with
anytime anything in Dairy yet, right, So I don't know
if that's at the same time or you know, because
again they don't interact with anybody in there yet because
he's mentioned how is he's waiting for his wife and
kid because they're getting a house in Dairy, right, we
(13:20):
just don't know when that goes into effect. Yeah, but
uh yeah, I enjoyed that first episode quite a bit.
I was literally like, right as the episode ended, page
like you okay, and I was like, yeah, why She's
like and I was like, didn't realize. I was literally
sitting on the edge of my couch and I was like,
(13:42):
oh my god, she's like Jesus, I was like this
that episode was fucking wild, dude.
Speaker 2 (13:48):
It had weird tonal like swings as well, like you
would get like the most most like suspenseful thing ever.
As you're just sitting there like holding on for like
what's next. You know, I'm trying to remember bits of
the of the first episode, but you'd have something like
someone walking towards a dark you know, hallway or did
(14:10):
this didn't happen, but it's an example of it, and
you're just like, some shit's gonna happen, Some shit's gonna happen,
you know what's gonna happen, And then someone cracks a
joke and you're like, wait, what wait, this just took
a weird total change. Yeah, not bad, It was just
really weird on how it would just be like the
(14:30):
most intense, suspenseful thing ever, and then someone would crack
a joke and it would actually be kind of funny,
and you're like, huh, all right, I guess that's how
we're going to dispel this suspense.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
Right there is just in a joke, you're setting you up, yeah,
setting up for a giant mutated fucking demon baby to
come out of the music man.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Mm hm, but what else?
Speaker 1 (15:02):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
It was such a good episode and it feels like
a really good connection in between to the movie. The
only weird thing I have about this is like we
all know that he doesn't get stopped here, so.
Speaker 1 (15:24):
I think this is less of like.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
So like, what what is the what is the arc
good to be? Like he doesn't get stopped, he doesn't.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
I don't think it's so much. And I think that's
why it's Welcome to Dairy. Well, I want two things,
and Andy confirmed it welcome to Dairy because they're gonna
do They're gonna basically explain how penny Wise became or
showed up in Dairy, So that was kind of like
a welcome to Dairy type thing, but also like, uh,
(15:58):
what's his name? That the because that's Ah that is
the grandfather of the Mike from the It the because
he's the one that works on the dairy farm. And
(16:21):
so like they're basically said, I think it's more of
it's less about the kids besting penny Wise and more
of the town becoming the cesspool of of of hate
and and stuff. But also just like setting up the
the future obviously with Dick calleran and I believe they're
(16:46):
gonna give us the black spot fire that he talks
about in the Shining and then that Andy used partially
in chapter one when Mike is right right before he
(17:11):
gets attacked by the bullies, he's at the he's delivering
the meat at the at the.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Are.
Speaker 1 (17:18):
No, he's livering the milk, right, No, he's delivering meat.
What is he delivering meat?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't actually remember ways to deliver.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
And then the doors start banging around and like the
burnt hands and stuff come out. That's a reference to
the black Spot, so I know that, Like, that's probably
because they tease that in one of the trailers, so
we'll get to see that. So it's more of like
kind of an origin. I mean, it's a true prequel
(17:47):
because like we are we do know that uh well
we okay, sorry, we don't know the severity of what
the kids do and don't do with Penny in this
We know he doesn't get ultimately, well, we don't actually
even in the the book, we don't actually know if
(18:08):
Pennywise is dead, or we we know Pennywise might be dead.
We don't know if the entity has been stopped from
being able to breach into uh our world via the
whatever portal or thing that he can use to to
manifest the avatar, because we could later on down down
(18:32):
the Road find out that you know, they only killed
the avatar and he rebuilt, you know, repowered up for
another twenty seven years later, and because it was like, hey,
you just killed a pond. The queen is still on
the board, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (18:51):
It's so hard not to talk about episode.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Too, I know, and I we were gonna watch it
last night, but a certain somebody is addicted to playing Pokemon.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
Page.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
Yeah, we did watch south Park last night though.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (19:05):
I watched south Park last night too. That Uh, that
was pretty fucking hilarious. Oh my god.
Speaker 1 (19:10):
Yeah, we laughed a bunch.
Speaker 2 (19:12):
I laughed so hard when they're like they're being haunted
by something and it's just like, oh my god, it's
it's that picture of Melania and in the corner with
the head down. I laughed so hard at that. Yeah,
and then just the whole episode where they're just talking
about south Park sucks because of the politics that they
started talking about, and it's just like that is so
(19:33):
fucking meta of south Park to do. I loved it
so much.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
And then literally like Stan becomes his dad at the
with the whole crypto thing. I was like, oh my god, dude,
it's so great, so great.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
See else, I didn't do anything else yesterday, watch anything else?
I don't think so.
Speaker 6 (20:11):
Yeah, okay, I didn't finish Resident Evil yesterday.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
And well it was a quick game, pretty okay, like
paced wise, because sometimes those games can just drag on
for a long time. And I ended up beating the
game and which was kind of a kind of sucked
a little bit. Looking at the achievements for the game,
(20:46):
there's an achievement for beating the game in under five hours.
I beat it in five hours and six minutes. I
just missed it because of probably some boss battle that
just drowg one a little bit too long.
Speaker 1 (21:04):
So I fitz Is, I'm sorry. I'm so. I found
this article that I was looking at before because I
was trying to find because there's multiple connections of characters
in Welcome to Dvery episode one, and I was trying
to find that if I think this is the article
I was reading before, but I was trying to see
(21:24):
if it stated the timeframe transports as nineteen sixty two,
exploring the previous cycle the titular characters were in of Terror,
so because then the movies it takes place in the eighties, right.
Speaker 2 (21:50):
Yeah, I think we were doing the calculations last night.
Roughly if this because I think you said sixty two,
so twenty seven year years later, that means that it
would be nineteen eight nine, right.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
Well, you gotta quate for the eighteen months though, Well.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
That's why I said that it was. It's roughly, that's
what I'm saying. We don't know exactly when he started
in sixty two. If you're assuming that Maddie is like
the first kill, then it's twenty seven years about twenty
seven years later, so give or take eighteen months. Yeah,
(22:30):
so that means that he reappears somewhere between.
Speaker 6 (22:37):
Eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (22:40):
And ninety something.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Nineteen ninety would be if you added the eighteen months.
Speaker 2 (22:50):
That's what I'm saying, plus or minus, because he Maddie
could be towards the end of this could be taking
place halfway through or two thirds of the way through
his cycle as well. Yeah, year could have already passed.
Because they do show a little bit of a spoiler
in the second one. They do show that there is
missing kids already that they haven't talked about. Yeah, so
(23:12):
he's been going on for some time. But whether it's
halfway through his cycle, two thirds of the way through
the cycle, or even a third of the way through
the cycle, or a quarter of the way through a cycle,
or a math for action through the cycle. He's been
killing already, So nineteen eighty nine for the beginning of it,
(23:33):
unless I'm sure. I'm sure. Actually, if you look up,
when does it take place, probably is somewhere around nineteen
eighty nine, give or take eighteen months.
Speaker 1 (23:50):
Let's see plots in October of nineteen eighty eight, eighty eight.
Speaker 2 (23:57):
Okay, but again he's already did he start what was
the first killing following June?
Speaker 1 (24:11):
Following June in nineteen eighty nine is when Bill and
his friends team up, So October of eighty eight, so
that's not even a full year yet at that point. Yeah,
(24:33):
so then oh yeah, that would make sense then because
if they're fighting in June of eighty nine, and obviously
he doesn't get to like they they defeat him as children,
but that would be towards the end of his eighteen months, yeah,
which would end in probably would would have ended in
(24:55):
ninety if he would it wasn't defeated or whatever, and
then obviously he re emerged just uh twenty seven years later. Yeah,
so yeah, that that does track with what it would
have been. So yeah, we don't know when this cycle started. Yeah,
(25:24):
interesting right anyway. So yeah, so uh in this talks
about the family connections. So obviously Mike Hanlin is in
the movies, Leroy Handlin uh is in the show. He's
(25:50):
the pilot h In the second episode, his twelve year
old son Will, which is Mike's father.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Are you gonna spoil the second episode for yourself? Because
that's why I didn't want to go into son there.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
We already knew that going ahead of time because I
figured out who his dad or when they said major Hanlon,
I was like, well, I know that is definitely.
Speaker 2 (26:19):
Ah, there's definitely a lot of familial and other references
that show up in the second.
Speaker 1 (26:30):
Episode because in Stanley Yuris's uncle was Teddy, who was
the little Jewish kid in this in episode one mm hmm,
(26:51):
I don't remember if there was. And obviously the apartment
building that the one girl lives in is where Beverly lived.
(27:12):
That was all I had on there. Oh, and then
the there's a reference to Bowers. I know that because
there's a picture of something that they show. M hmmmm.
That was in the the end of episode one, they
showed the coming up this season and Welcome to Dairy,
(27:35):
and they showed something that had the Bowers name on it.
I don't remember what it was.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
You'll see it in episode two.
Speaker 1 (27:41):
Yeah, so that was cool because I was like, oh shit,
okay mcpoile's rule. I think that's all I found on
that one before, and I wasn't too sure if like, oh,
(28:02):
I mean, obviously you said earlier the Paul Bunyan thing.
But then one of one of the things I liked
is the reference to like the family that picks up Maddie,
you realize, like obviously very quickly, Uh, they're not a
real family. They're just you know, a manifestation of of
(28:28):
of it. Because I don't think he's again much like
what happens in the movie is penny Wise isn't the
direct connection to the kids. It's always something else that
has the potential to kill them. But obviously the Losers
(28:50):
Club gets a little more lucky and don't get eviscerated
by whatever that secondary. I guess those would be pawns.
Maybe if you're thinking Chess moves to penny Wise, who
is more the the the queen protecting the king, you know,
(29:11):
the crimson King maybe, but uh, because like in the movie,
in the Innima Chetty movies, Uh, Stanley, they each have
their own little you know, fear agent that comes after him. Obviously. Uh.
Georgie is is uh going after his brother, being used
(29:33):
against his brother. Beverly's dad is partially hers. There's the
the the the the creepy fucking thing outside the knee
boat house, the oh my god with missing nose and everything.
(29:56):
What are those called? Leper Oh?
Speaker 2 (29:58):
Yeah, yeah, because he was like afraid of sickness.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
Yeah, yeah, he's a gemophobe. Yeah. You have the creepy
painting for Stanley.
Speaker 5 (30:09):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (30:10):
Mike Handlon obviously is the whole like friends, the family
being burnt alive by racists. What else was there on
the clowns thing and obviously later on the Paul Bunyan statue,
(30:36):
So like those are like you know, obviously they're they're
building And again can't speak for episode two, but I
know that that was like kind of like the thing
with the with the demon baby in the family because
like obviously Maddie really didn't have a family. M So
like being haunted by this what he thought was the
perfect family. And then obviously like the girl pulls out
(30:56):
the thing a liver. I was like, oh my god,
I don't like that at all.
Speaker 2 (31:01):
I forgot about that until you mentioned that again. Another
like such a perfect way to build suspense of just
like what the fuck is going on here? And then
she just pulls out raw like even on the container.
Didn't say like raw liver, and it's like, what the
fuck you just put raw liver on the container and
she's gonna eat that?
Speaker 6 (31:20):
She just slowly dips her hand in it and it.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Out and sniffs it, and then it's like, what's happening
ye here? And you have in the background the kids
spelling things just getting more and more. It's just, uh,
it just builds on itself, and then the whole family
is just doing it and this wildness just ensues. For
(31:44):
the freakin' baby being born. Uh, there's a scene again
I won't spoil it, and see in episode two where
they do is something similar where it's just like a
thing is happening for the story building, but in the background,
you just have this thing that is building up just
(32:06):
and it's just a thing that is just driving the suspense.
It's crazy, crazy well done.
Speaker 1 (32:16):
Yeah. Yeah, like the whole reference to the nuclear family,
you know, two point five kids, because there's two kids
and half a kid. And then the radio broadcast is
talking about, you know, mutation from nuclear fallout and how
it can affect pregnant women, and then she gives birth
(32:37):
to a fucking with two heads. Yeah, and I was like,
oh shit, okay, this is fucked up right. Yeah, it's
so funny too.
Speaker 2 (32:48):
You just can't wait for more, more of this episode,
more of the season, because I do know, Like I
I managed to stay away from pretty much all trailers
for this thing, and except for parts of one where
I do know that they may mention of Shawshank Prison,
So it's like, what are we going to do with that?
You know? Where are we going to go in this show?
(33:09):
Do they have a plans to do like more seasons
or is it do you know if this is just
like a a singular one and done mini series type thing.
Speaker 1 (33:18):
I think it's a mini series just because unless they
want to stretch it out, but I don't. I don't
think they really should.
Speaker 2 (33:25):
But no, because the way it feels like it's going,
we are like I said before, we already know that
there's not going to be a good conclusion to this.
This is not something where they fight valiantly, valiantly and
beat it back.
Speaker 1 (33:40):
Yeah, this is it.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
It wins period. Yeah, it's just how does it win
along the way. So I do hope that that this
is just a mini series and then done, because they're
putting so much production into this thing too.
Speaker 1 (33:58):
Like, yeah, extremely well done, So well done. I did
see someone did a slight fact check of when The
Music Man came out, uh huh, and it's uh, it didn't.
It didn't come out until later in nineteen sixty two.
(34:19):
So somehow Darry got The music Man first.
Speaker 2 (34:24):
Hey, test screening somewhere, you know, we see it nowadays. Hell,
I get invited to test screens all the time.
Speaker 1 (34:31):
Yeah, because they I could explain.
Speaker 2 (34:34):
Why there's you know, not very many people inside that theater.
Speaker 1 (34:42):
Which with the arrival, very bad things begin to happen
in town. Blah blah blah. Well they updated the character
lists on there too. We're ring the fucking three boys
(35:02):
from the first or the yeah, the first, well, because
they're going to show up in other episodes as flashbacks,
I'm sure, but not nearly as much as you know,
Maddie probably is, but they're they're definitely not long for
the series. No, I'm trying to see if there's any
(35:23):
mention because it says it. It calls it Wiki Wikipedia.
I don't want to say this is the fucking end
all be all of it, but it says American supernatural
horror television series, so it calls it a television series.
Doesn't call it a mini series. Mhm.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
I just wonder if ms Eddie has said anything about it.
Speaker 1 (35:51):
I haven't seen anything yet, but I didn't want to
watch too many things.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Yeah, same here. That is a good thing about that
series two, well, at least the first two episodes so far,
is the pacing somewhat slow. It sometimes but realizing like
the first episode was fifty something minutes long, didn't feel
(36:16):
like fifty something minutes long. When it ended, it just
kind of boom ends and you're like, wait, what we
were already done. It's like, no, it's been an hour.
It's like, holy shit, it's been an hour. And then
the second episode was an hour and six minutes long,
and again when it ends, it's just like, holy shit,
it's been an hour already. Like they've done a really
(36:36):
good job at pacing out the episodes so far, not
making it feel like it is running for an hour
that I've had complaints with other shows that for some reason,
when it's an hour long, it man, it feels like
an hour long. You're just kind of drudging through things.
(36:56):
It's like, come on, let's get this going. Or the
exact opposite, which I felt with the murder Bot, where
it's like, this is a half hour long, and it's like, no,
it wasn't. This was ten minutes. You give me a
ten minute episode.
Speaker 1 (37:09):
You cursed that show.
Speaker 2 (37:10):
Joke that was I cursed that show. I did because
at that exact time. Well, because again, there have been
just so many shows that have come out that are
an hour long, and it's like, this shouldn't be an
hour long, Like this feels like too long. Not everything
needs to be an hour long. And so that's why
(37:30):
when murder Bot came out and it's like, cool, it's
a half hour long episodes. That'll be nice and doable,
and it is. Unfortunately, it's also well paced and fun
and interacted I just say interactive, but like engaging that
a now a half hour episode felt like it was
ten minutes and just went by like that. But I
think this is the type of show Welcome to Darry
(37:52):
that it paces things out, at least for the first
two episodes very well, gives you a lot of storytelling
going on, like the second episode. You get hints of
things in the first episode and then payoffs in the
second episode already, and it's like, oh, like I had
to shush at him for a second there because they
were like they were lower dumping something at a time
(38:14):
that he was talking.
Speaker 1 (38:15):
I was like, no, no, sure, show your whole mouth four.
Speaker 2 (38:19):
And I think I nailed I think I nailed it
right now what my theory is going on right now?
And it's like, oh my god, this is so good.
What the fuck? And then it episode that it ends
and you're like, holy shit, it's been an hour in
six minutes already, Holy crap. So it's so well paced,
and I hope that the rest of the episodes keep
this up because you know, this type of show, this
(38:42):
type of storytelling is is the exact reason why some
shows should be an hour long. But not every show
needs to be an hour long. That's all I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (38:53):
I don't think there should be a time limit. I
think they should because we're in the land of streaming now.
They should tailor the episode, have to.
Speaker 2 (39:05):
Break things up, because otherwise you just invent a couch
potatoes that just have to pause in order.
Speaker 1 (39:13):
To No, I'm not saying you should make like a
two hour episode. I'm saying you should. You should formulate
your episode for what the portion of the story you're
trying to tell.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Oh, but that I can absolutely agree with that.
Speaker 1 (39:24):
You shouldn't try to limit to thirty You shouldn't try
to limit to an hour. If you want to make
it an hour and fourteen minutes, make an hour in
fourteen minutes. Don't go less than like thirty though, just
at that point combining two episodes, because like that's just too.
Speaker 2 (39:38):
Short doing you literally are making just like a you know,
fifteen minute episode. What is that? That's That's nothing I
can agree with that. It'll be interesting the first show
that decides to do something like that. No, this this
small story arc that we're going to tell within this
larger story arc, that's a thirty minute episode, but this one,
(40:01):
it's a forty five minute episode.
Speaker 1 (40:02):
That's what I'm saying, Like, you shouldn't have to because
we're not playing with commercial breaks, we're not playing with
ad breaks or whatever. You should literally plan out your
episode for what you're trying to do in that episode.
Speaker 2 (40:18):
Yes, I can agree with that. It'll be very interesting
this first show that can get away with that because
it does. It does get away from the people's thought
process of like, oh, this is only a thirty minute episode.
This show is only thirty minutes long. I have X
amount of time before you know why I need to
(40:38):
go do something. I can watch an episode of this.
You will have to be able to be like, oh no,
this episode is forty five minutes long. You'll have to
get people trained into being able to do something like that.
But that type of show will make a break whether
that in my opinion, whether that concept works or not.
So it has to be a good show in order
(40:59):
to get away it was something like that, because if
it does, if it's not a good show and it tanks,
no one's going to try that for a while.
Speaker 1 (41:07):
Again, Yeah, because it You shouldn't have to to nowadays
dictate your storytelling just to fulfill your your time frame.
You should be able to tell your story the way
you want to, and there wasn't there was a show
that was doing that. What fuck show were we watching? Well,
(41:29):
like there was one episode was like forty five minutes
and another episode was like an hour and fifteen minutes.
Speaker 2 (41:34):
I know, every once in a while you get stuff
like that because it's based like oh, this is the
this is the season finale, or something like that. We'll
make that one like an hour long. But for the
most part, the actual episodes themselves were like half hour or.
Speaker 6 (41:51):
An hour long.
Speaker 1 (41:53):
No, there was something recently that.
Speaker 2 (41:56):
But every episode was was drastically different.
Speaker 3 (41:59):
Yeah, I don't know, fuck was it because I haven't
watched a whole lot of stuff lately, so.
Speaker 2 (42:07):
I know that wasn't Alien Earth.
Speaker 7 (42:10):
So that's the thing that another thing, like thinking about
watching episode two, Alien Earth started out really well in
my opinion, and then kind of went down.
Speaker 2 (42:23):
A bit downhill. I'm really hoping that this doesn't do
that too. So far, it feels like it's not going to.
But we'll see what happens. Especially with episode three. You
kind of you know, you got that little bit of
a hook in episode one and two. You can't be
killing kids every single episode. You could, but it'd be
(42:43):
really weird to have attachment towards anybody.
Speaker 1 (42:46):
Yeah, so IMDb, for some reason, uh lists that it's
gonna run for three seasons.
Speaker 2 (43:00):
How many episodes?
Speaker 1 (43:01):
So season one is the one that actually has more
than just one episode listed. I don't know where they're referenced.
Speaker 2 (43:07):
Which is fine. We can kind of extrapolate how many
episodes per season, So.
Speaker 1 (43:11):
This says eight episodes for season one. Season two is
listed with one episode, so is season three, and weirdly enough,
it says episode two or season two. Episode one has
a not a release date, but a release a year
of twenty twenty seven. Interesting. So, yeah, so episode one
(43:34):
is fifty four minutes long. Episode two of season one
obviously is one hour six minutes. Season episode three is
listed at fifty eight minutes, Episode four is listened an
hour and two minutes, Episode five is listed at fifty
five minutes, and episode six, seven, and eight don't have
times yet.
Speaker 2 (43:55):
But I'd assume somewhere around an hour.
Speaker 1 (43:58):
So right around that bubble of an an hour a
little over an hour. Yeah, maybe season or episode eight
might be a little longer. We'll see what happens. But
if they do it properly, you can probably you know,
make it work.
Speaker 2 (44:11):
What you need to see should we do for two
extra seasons, Like obviously, you know this happens over the
course of eighteen months. We don't know how long it's
already been happening.
Speaker 1 (44:21):
Well, but also we don't know, so there's no if.
Speaker 2 (44:25):
They're going to do more, Like you said this, at
least from the first two episodes, you don't get too
much of an idea that they're going to explore the
history of Pennywise. But if they are going to, you
can I don't know why I was timing myself for
six minutes, but it's been six minutes apparently, you know,
just letting you know. I guess they could just have
(44:48):
full blown episodes of just like Okay, this episode is
takes place in back in whatever, hundreds of years earlier,
because you know, at least from the movie they that
the first host was by what eighteen seventeen hundreds or
something like that.
Speaker 1 (45:06):
Yeah, because he's Bob Gray was a lot older, because
because they had the the there's this the the mine
explosion was not in recent years. That was like back
in the day they talked about the disaster. It happened
(45:26):
when Shawshank was being built, which is like I think
sometime in like the eighteen hundreds. So I think it'd
be interesting if we do if every if they do
plan it for three seasons, going back the twenty seven years,
so twenty seven years before nineteen sixty two, and then
(45:48):
keep going back to maybe being the origin, like showing
Bob Gray for the first time in those you know
CP tone photos and then the kids had in the
tree from the explosion. So interesting to see what they do.
But there's no mention right now that I can find
(46:12):
about anything more than just the one season, even though
I'MDB litterless three for some strange as are reason maybe
they know something we don't.
Speaker 2 (46:26):
Maybe, Yeah, I can definitely see them doing that. They
just sprinkle in every season a little bit more of
an explanation of where he comes from, the history, you
have the military side of things, explaining more of what's
going on there, what secrets that they have involved. So
(46:52):
I can see them padding it out for three seasons.
Speaker 1 (46:55):
Yeah, I wonder how they're gonna do it. Tell you
the truth, Well, you'll see.
Speaker 2 (47:04):
A little bit more in episode two. I will say that,
Like I said, there's there's a bunch of like questions
that appear that pop up in episode one that they
they immediately even though they open up more questions, they
do immediately pay off in episode two, and you're just like, ah, Okay,
I kind of see where this is going in this
(47:25):
side of things.
Speaker 1 (47:31):
There's a there's an actor in it called Dorian Gray.
Speaker 2 (47:37):
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (47:39):
It's weirdly ominous, right, who is this person? He plays
a character named lover Boy Jack's does it say what episode?
Speaker 6 (47:54):
No?
Speaker 1 (47:54):
That was on Wikipedia? Okay, IMDb decided to not give
me much information fair enough other than just letting me
know that apparently there's gonna be three seasons. Again, I
don't know how they know this, but let's go to
the cast and look for Dorian Gray. If there's even
(48:17):
a picture of him, is it just gonna be like
a portrait of him?
Speaker 2 (48:21):
I don't know. You'll have to find out.
Speaker 1 (48:23):
I'm trying to find right now. Chad Rook, Clark, James Collins,
Uh no, uh'd be really hilarious. There wasn't a photo
(48:48):
of him on here? Know right, since there's a picture
of him, is his weakness? Oh? There he is Dorian Gray.
One episode? Trying to see what episode it was?
Speaker 6 (49:09):
You have an explanation for let's see if this actually
pays off.
Speaker 2 (49:14):
Oh my god, this website's trash.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
What the hell he's in? He's an episode two.
Speaker 2 (49:21):
Okay, so I've seen him, but I don't remember.
Speaker 1 (49:25):
He must play, I don't know. It's a bold move
to name your kid Dorian Gray. I mean it could
be could be a chosen name series.
Speaker 2 (49:42):
Which would be another bold move to just choose that name.
So there's a there's a wicked we should be a
Reddit article that in our slash Keith Stephen King from
ten months ago that says it welcome to Darry has
a three season plan, each season to be set in
a different.
Speaker 1 (50:00):
Hear you, So they're all going backwards. Then.
Speaker 2 (50:02):
Unfortunately, when you click on the link for this fiction
Horizon dot com, it just takes you to fiction Horizon
dot com. It doesn't take you to the article. And
I've never heard of fiction Horizon.
Speaker 1 (50:18):
Welcome Sounds made Dairy.
Speaker 2 (50:23):
See if I can pull up the article real quick
and see if they have quotes from somebody, because otherwise,
besides this Reddit article, when you do the search for
Welcome to Dairy seasons, it doesn't pull up a whole
lot just a lot of people like oh, let's talk
about this episode. It's like, no, I don't want to
talk about it. There's a sci fi article how many
(50:49):
seasons will or will there be?
Speaker 5 (50:54):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (51:08):
Our big arc involves three seasons mainly based on the
three critical cycles of Pennywise, which are in nineteen sixty two,
nineteen thirty five, and nineteen oh eight. And this is
from Andy. Yeah, so that's how they're going to do it.
So we will get a closure to this arc.
Speaker 1 (51:28):
But a closure to this arc that only leads us
to what we've already seen, and then going back to
give us another arc that explains to where we got
to to this arc.
Speaker 2 (51:38):
And then jumping back again to nineteen oh eight to
the third season.
Speaker 1 (51:43):
So nineteen oh eight is that I wonder if that's
when penny Wise technically or it technically.
Speaker 2 (51:49):
Takes his Bob grade, that would track because that's I
would think that's thinking of what the pictures and stuff
look like that would probably be around that era. So okay,
So that explains things. It makes things a lot easier too.
(52:14):
It makes things a lot easier just to be like, okay,
so we're not trying to stretch out one story one
eighteen month period overseas over three seasons, trying to tell
three different stories about the same creature over three different
time periods, which will be really nice. It means that
they can really hone in and focus on the exact
(52:35):
things happening within this season's story arc, rather than just
being like, ooh, but we need to make two seasons,
so let's throw in some Viller here. No, that's cool.
Speaker 1 (52:50):
Hopefully they can stick the landing and make nice season
what it needs to be.
Speaker 2 (52:56):
I seriously hope so as well. And I'm hopeful based
on these first two episodes, I know that there's gonna
be Stephen King stuff that I you know, Easter eggs
that I didn't even catch on in the first two episodes.
But if the number of Easter eggs in the first
two episodes continues, I really wonder if they're really gonna
(53:19):
start like sewing up more King properties within this within
this show, just hinting at other things going on within
the grander scheme of things.
Speaker 1 (53:34):
Yeah, for sure, because I mean they obviously they can
sprinkle in all sorts of stuff that leads to them
like that references the movie too, which obviously references the
book because of the source material but it'll be interesting
(53:56):
to see what else they throw in for like obviously
the shank redemption, you got the turtle.
Speaker 2 (54:05):
In episode two, you got some stuff that I'm not
going to to uh to mention, I'm trying to remember
more stuff from episode one.
Speaker 4 (54:18):
I can't, but yeah, uh, I don't see anything.
Speaker 1 (54:35):
I was trying to see if there's someone had a
list of other ones that that's a terrible list that
the even mentioned the turtle, or the fact that Dick
Callerin is in the show, because.
Speaker 2 (54:51):
The turtle was like so like, I guess it was
a background character, but still like right there in a
shot where you're like, oh, it's a mascot turtle.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
It says it on the the Marquee when they go
into school. Obviously the turtles in the hallway because they're
referencing the nuclear war and now you're supposed to like
high underneath your desk blah blah blaha. You know, nuclear
fall that's not gonna be affect you if you're under
your desk, so you're turtling up right. And then obviously
her charm that she gets out of the crackerjack box
that she trades for is a turtle, so I mean
(55:28):
there's that. I mean, obviously in us Stephen King fans
know what the turtles are reference to m Let's see
this one has the seven. Well that's a horrible ad.
Thank you seven best Stephen King. Easter Eggs and welcome
(55:50):
to Dairy. This might go into season or episode two,
because that's fine whatever. A Uh the Handling family and
their connection to the Black Spot, okay, clearly because I
believe Mike's uncle, no great uncle in his I can't remember.
(56:20):
I think it's his dad's brother. I can't remember what
it is, and we'll find out. The Shining and Doctor
Sleep obviously to calerin other references to it, chapter one
and two are there are plenty of other nods and
films blah blah blah, which plays a key role in
(56:40):
Pennywise's origin series, features a black and white photo of
Bob Gray, one of Pennywise's human ally or aliases Jesus
from the novel, and shape shifting cosmic energy blah blah blah. Yeah, yeah,
a giant Paul Onion statue. EGLI viewers will also uh
(57:04):
see a spot of graffiti in the girl's bathroom. Oh yeah,
I saw that one too, Alvin uh, Alvin Marsh, which
is the Beverly's abusive father. I saw that, I was like, oh,
Marsh birtha turtle. Obviously this is duck and cover and
we're talking about that, hmm, a lego turtle. Yeah, that's
(57:30):
from the chapter one that was the whole thing. And
when it broke is when Pennywise almost got they almost
got him when he was cosplaying. Is Georgie? Is that
even the right term? Puppeting Georgie?
Speaker 2 (57:48):
Yeah, puppeting.
Speaker 1 (57:50):
Let's see, we know what it's referencing. Jesus, Well, what
we do one of the twelve Guardians of the being
the Dark Tower series. It's just a long explanation of
that Shawshank prison, the Juniper Hills Asylum. Finally, the cinema
(58:18):
first episode, Oh, I guess, I guess that could be
a reference to carry oh because it's top of the theater. Okay,
I thought they're talking about the girl covered in blood,
it says Finally the cinema prominently featured in the first
(58:43):
episode of it. Welcome to Dairy is a capital theater
of real life cinema based on based in Burlington, Iowa.
Closed its doors in March of nineteen seventy seven. The
historic Art Deco Theater's final screening was carry That's kind
of cool. Yeah, that's more of like a pan homage
(59:06):
to something. That's all they have listed here as the
top seven references or easter eggs. It's weird that they
mention Mike Hanlon's connection to the Black Spot. They don't
mention Stanley Euris's dead uncle who was murdered in a
(59:28):
movie theater late at night with two of his with
his friend and his friend's sister. That would be I
would think that would be a pretty good Easter egg
because Stanley eras much like the Hanlan family, is a
linear or a legacy character down the line. He's a
little bitch ass who fucking takes the coward's way out,
(59:49):
but we're not gonna fucking go there. I don't blame
him also because then when he was a child fighting
in the sewers, he was mostly swallowed by a creature
out of a painting that could probably fuck with you
a little bit. So just taking your own life in
your bathtub once you get the call to go back,
Darry probably is not completely out of the norm, right,
(01:00:10):
but still a bitch ass way of doing it, exploring
the events leading up to the pivotal moment. Lee Roy
will all also be working alongside none other than the
Shinings Dick callerin another co founder of the establishment. Okay,
so his Mike's Hanlin's father or grandfather Ben? No, that's
(01:00:38):
not that's Ben Hancoms. That's where is it? Yeah, his
grandfather was one of the co founders of the Black
Spot with Dick callerin which obviously was torched by a
bunch of racists. Okay, cool, So they're changing it because,
(01:01:07):
like obviously, they altered it in the movie from what
the book was to make Mike's grandfather Lee Roy die
at the mean I guess he dies at the Black
Spots spoiler alert. I don't know. Interesting, I guess we'll
find out. Yeah, but your good old Dick hallerin being featured.
(01:01:30):
And this is pretty cool. The fact they talked about
the his gift the shine. Dick is a dairy, isn't Darie,
Because Dick fucked up And that's the truth. You'll see
and see the show and get and you'll get that.
That's pretty fun. That's a quote from uh from the actor. Okay,
(01:01:57):
When asked why Dick Callery is in there well, because
he was mentioned of being being stationed in dairy uh
in the book or in shining, So that's why I
think that's really it. I have one other story, but
(01:02:18):
I don't think you ever read the comic book, so
it doesn't matter. I sent you the article before about
Southern bassaard's being picked up or being having a pilot
ordered from Hulu, I have not. It's a Jason Aaron book.
It's kind of like Rambo in a way, but.
Speaker 2 (01:02:43):
It's about this.
Speaker 1 (01:02:46):
War veteran whose name excase me, I can't remember her name.
But she goes back to her hometown in the South,
and actually it was kind of like punish her too
in a way a little bit too, which is very
similar to Rambo. I don't know why those differentiate each other.
(01:03:08):
But she goes back and her her father has gone missing,
and she stumbles upon the fact that there's an organized
there's organized crime happening.
Speaker 5 (01:03:18):
Ah.
Speaker 1 (01:03:19):
I this might be a spoiler, but everyone forget by
the time it comes out.
Speaker 6 (01:03:23):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (01:03:24):
She finds out that the the leader of the organization
is the head coach of the football team Okay, and
he uses his influence in the town uh, to bring
people into his organization. But a lot of racist stuff
happens and it's a really good story. Okay, but yeah,
(01:03:47):
that's about That's about all I really had. Cool, So
that'll be it for this week's episode. Comes naturally. We
have been I've been a Cody, a coach.
Speaker 2 (01:04:00):
I've been Cody.
Speaker 1 (01:04:02):
I have been a Cody. Uh And as usual, you
fuckers just came naturally.
Speaker 5 (01:04:07):
Bye.
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