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11-27-25  Conservative Commandos: AI Teddy Bears Can Teach Kids About Bondage, Sex, Matches, Knives, Pills, Plastic Bags!!

Parents and grandparents have enough to worry about during the holidays.  Now they have to add “AI-powered teddy bears discussing bondage and lighting matches” to the list.
A People magazine report revealed that an AI-enabled toy called Kumma has been pulled from shelves after researchers uncovered disturbing behavior.  The bear, powered by OpenAI’s GPT-4o and marketed by FoloToy as a friendly, educational companion, reportedly wandered into territory no child’s toy should ever approach.

Researchers with the U.S. PIRG Education Fund said the bear could deliver “potentially dangerous information,” including where children could find knives, pills, matches, and even plastic bags.
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Speaker 3 (01:35):
They last forever. You just know person so well that
it's it's a forever friendship that we have. You and
I'm married.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Sure, you know when I say that you're you're the
sister I never had, I really do mean that. I
feel that. I absolutely feel that way about you. You know,
when I was a kid, I always wish I had
a uh a sister, preferably a big sister who would
bring her girlfriends over, you know what I mean, But

(02:07):
never really had that kind of relationship. But I am.
I am blessed to know you. I am blessed to
do the show with you, and I am blessed to
have you as a friend.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
Well, we've gotten nineteen people here for Thanksgiving. That's my family,
you know, my son and daughter. I just have the
two kids, but each one of them has four and
now they're starting to have kids of their own, get married,
and so it expands my family and it is. It's
wonderful to have them here. I was thinking about the

(02:43):
president and how today is today right that they eat
gobble and waddle.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Well, they don't eat them, they pardon them.

Speaker 3 (02:55):
They I wonder who they ate.

Speaker 6 (03:01):
Their cousins.

Speaker 7 (03:02):
I don't know somebody who wasn't it, you know, they
were a couple of big, big turkeys, and he did
it every year.

Speaker 4 (03:12):
At least they've been doing it. I forget. I heard
the other day the first president to do it. Maybe
it was Gerald Ford, maybe Richard Nixon. I don't know.
Gerald Ford was famous for pardoning, so maybe it was
Gerald Ford.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
But it's a more.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
Recent tradition than going back to the days of George
Washington or Abraham Lincoln. It's a it's a more recent event.

Speaker 3 (03:41):
It is, and it's a humorous event. You know, it's
time to be lighthearted with your family and friends into
thanks for God for all provision that He's made for us.
We're getting ready to watch Squanto. Of course, that's our
Thanksgiving tradition and around here.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
Mine and since I've learned about Squanta from you, it's
also one of my traditions. I watched Squanta every year,
and that's one of the things I love about youtubere
you goes Squanto and actually there's many choices that you
can make, and each one of them is done a
little bit different, and each each one you get a

(04:23):
little bit of, you know.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
A different history.

Speaker 4 (04:28):
Yes, yes, and it's really great. But thanks to you,
Squanta is part of my Thanksgiving tradition.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Well, you know, I think it was because of that
tradition when I went east to Plymouth Rock and I
got acquainted with the monument there and actually watch that
movie called Monument and that I think is probably less

(05:00):
drama more history, but it's a good one too. If
you're if you're looking for things.

Speaker 6 (05:06):
Monument you've mentioned that before.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I've never seen it.

Speaker 6 (05:09):
I'm going to do it.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
It's called Monumental. Yeah, and it really goes into the
history as well of our nation and why we're one
nation under God. That's what our Pledge of Allegiance says.
We we cling to that our faith has seen us

(05:33):
through God has really provided for us through on many occasions.
You know, the Revolutionary War in and of itself is
just one miracle after another. When you consider that England
was the foremost world power, It's like somebody taking us

(05:55):
on as the United States of America. And now they
had all the weaponry, weaponry, they had all of the money,
they had everything.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
They had everything they needed except really a will to win.
And that's what the Americans had. They had a desperate
will to win. I mean it was I think it
was Benjamin Franklin and says, we either hang together or
surely we're going to hang separately. I'm paraphrasing that. But

(06:27):
my gosh, what they what they did and sacrificed in
those eight years of the Revolutionary War was it was
just incredible. And as you say, they were up against
the world's dominant power. You know, Britain had the money,
had the men, had the weapons, had the ships, had

(06:50):
the supplies. Our guys were walking with rags on their feet,
literally walking with what the soldiers that marched from where
Washington crossed the Delaware to Trent to attack the Hessians.
Literally some of those men were wearing rags on their
feet because they had no shoes. And that's I'm sorry,

(07:14):
but that you know me, I love history, and that's
what was one of the astonishing things. Now, when the
British lost at Yorktown, the Seven or eight thousand British
soldiers had to march down a road lined by the
French on one side and the Americans on the other.

(07:38):
And one of the British soldiers said, we couldn't believe
what a ragtag group this was. And they beat us,
you know, they they defeated us, and they just were astounded.
They were just astounded by the appearance of the American soldiers.

(07:59):
I don't know most, but a lot of them didn't
even have uniforms, and said that they didn't have shoes.
Many times they had nothing to eat. Joseph Plamartin was
a young boy when he enlisted. He was he was fifteen,
and he talked. He talked about at one point one

(08:23):
winter during the Revolutionary War, having nothing to eat for
four days, others than some bark he scraped from a
tree and an old oxtail that that he boiled.

Speaker 6 (08:37):
I mean, my.

Speaker 4 (08:38):
Gosh, that's desperate, that's what That's one thing that the
British didn't have. Those soldiers were paid to be there,
our men. It was their lives, it was their futures,
it was their country, it was their families. It was
all all out there at stake. So is my God.

(09:02):
It's one of the reasons why I love this country
so much. I love I love the story of our founding.
I love the I love our founding fathers. And here
I go, I'm going to say it one more time,
our founding fathers. It's like when all the stars and
all the planets lined up in perfect order, that these
men came together, declared independence, bought through war, created the

(09:28):
a constitution that was revolutionary, is still revolutionary. And it's
worked for two hundred and fifty years, Sharon, it's worked
for Tell me something that works for two hundred and
fifty years. Very few things, especially not governments.

Speaker 3 (09:47):
Not governments, not governments. But you know there's a reason
for that. And I wanted to just take a minute
to read Thanksgiving Proclamation of seventeen eighty nine. This is
President George Washington. He says, whereas it is the duty
of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God,

(10:09):
to obey his will, to be grateful for his benefits,
and to humbly implore his protection and favor. And whereas
both Houses of Congress have, by their joint Committee, requested
me to recommend to the people of the United States,
a day of public thanksgiving and prayer to be observed
by acknowledging, with grateful hearts the many signal favors of

(10:33):
Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to
establish a form of government for their safety and happiness. Now, therefore,
I do recommend an assigned Thursday, the twenty sixth day
of November next, to be devoted by the people of
the United States, to the service of that great and

(10:55):
glorious being who is the beneficent author all the good
was that he is, or that will be, that we
made them all unite in rendering unto him our sincere
and humble thanks for his kind care and protection of
the people of this country previous to their becoming a nation,

(11:16):
for the signal and manifold mercies, and the favorable interpositions
of His providence which we experienced in the course and
conclusion of the late War, for the great degree of tranquility, union,
and plenty, which we have since enjoyed, for the peaceable
and rational, rational manner in which we have been enabled

(11:37):
to establish constitutions of government for our safety and happiness,
and particularly the national one now lately instituted for the
civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed, and
the means we have of acquiring and diffusing useful knowledge,
and in general for all the great and various favors

(11:57):
which He has been pleased to infer upon us. And
also that we may then unite in most humbly offering
our prayers and supplications to the Great Lord and Ruler
of nations, and beseech him to pardon our national and
other transgressions, to enable us, all, whether in public or
private stations, to perform our several and relative duties properly

(12:21):
and punctually. To render our national government a blessing to
all the people, by constantly being a government of wise,
just and constitutional laws, discreetly and faithfully executed and obeyed,
to protect and guide all sovereigns and nations, especially such
as have shown kindness unto us, and to bless them

(12:44):
with good government, peace and concord. To promote the knowledge
and practice of true religion and virtue, and the increase
of science among them all, and generally to grant unto
all mankinds, such a degree of temporal prosperity as He
alone knows to be best given under my hand at

(13:04):
the City of New York the third day of October
in the year of Our Lord, seventeen eighty nine, George Washington.
It's a prayer, Rick, It's a prayer. That proclamation is
a prayer for our nation. And it's a prayer still

(13:24):
if you think about it. The things that George Washington
asked for in that proclamation, peace, prosperity, unity, law abiding citizens,
people who upheld and honored the constitution, people who were
faithful to their God, you know, just thankful to him,

(13:47):
and prayerful people.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
And just.

Speaker 3 (13:52):
I wanted to read that today because I think we forget,
we just forget why we're here and how blest we
are to have been born in this country. Indeed, we
could have been born anywhere.

Speaker 4 (14:07):
Sharon, I say that all the time, that I'm a
man that hit the lottery ticket to be born in
this country, to feel for this country the way I do,
to appreciate it, the way I do, to have found
Mary in my life. I've hit the lottery. You know,

(14:28):
I'm a and you know, with Sharon, I don't care
if you're white, you're black, you're male, you're female, you're Catholic,
your Protestant, whatever, you are. If you were born in
this country, you also hit the lottery. Where else would
you want it to be born? And Sharon, I don't
think George Washington has a speech writer in those times,

(14:48):
do you? And everything, everything that he wrote there so
eloquently came from the heart.

Speaker 3 (14:56):
It's three paragraphs.

Speaker 4 (14:58):
I came from the heart.

Speaker 3 (14:59):
I don't I think it's even five hundred words. But
every word has a meaning, you know, and when you
start to read it, you want to emphasize every word.
It's just such a magnificent proclamation. And because of that,
we have the fourth Thursday of November designated as our

(15:20):
Thanksgiving Day eight, a special holiday that only the United
States celebrates only.

Speaker 4 (15:29):
Yes, well, and it's you know, share it again. It
doesn't matter who you are, man, woman, black, white, Christian,
jew It's a holiday that everybody can partake of. It's
not like Christmas and that's a Christian holiday. It's not

(15:49):
like John Kikpoor a Jewish holiday, or even Ramadan, a
Muslim holiday. This is a holiday that any American, every
American can participate. It should that should, and should with that, Jaron,
let's get a break in and you are listening to
the conservative Commander's Radio show with Sharon Angle. I'm Rick Trader.

(16:11):
We're so glad that you decide to to spend a
little bit of your Thanksgiving with Sharon and I and
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And thank you for staying with us on this Thanksgiving Day.
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Speaker 6 (18:20):
Why don't and Wobble?

Speaker 4 (18:22):
Donald Trump was saying the other day he was thinking
of naming them Chuck and Nancy, but then he wouldn't
want to partner this. But that's Donald Trump's himmer. But
you know, the left jump on that and they just
go crazy. They just go crazy. No, where's the spirit
of the holiday and all that. But sometimes you just

(18:44):
have to laugh at your laugh You just.

Speaker 3 (18:47):
Need you do well. And truly, the President has pardoned
a lot of people this year, So it's not like
he doesn't pardon people. It's just he says he doesn't
think that Nancy and Chuck deserve his pardon. They haven't

(19:08):
really asked for forgiveness, so I mean, there's no there's
no reason for him to want to pardon Nancy and Chuck.
It just thought they that these two turkeys look like
look like Nancy and Chuck. They're fifty pounders. That that
is amazing. Gobbled yeah, gobble weeghs fifty two pounds, wattle

(19:30):
weighs fifty pounds, making them the largest birds ever present.
And they will live out the rest of their lives
at North Carolina State University under the care of Prestige
Department of Poultry Science. I'm just wondering, you know how,

(19:52):
if you're that big and fat as a turkey, what
is your life expectance? They really that's a big turkey.

Speaker 4 (20:02):
I don't know if the life expected to see a turkey, Sharon.
It would depend upon the situation. Is it out wild,
is it in a petting zoo, or is it in
a poultry farm getting ready for Thanksgiving and Christmas?

Speaker 6 (20:16):
I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 4 (20:18):
I mean look that one up when a break or something.
The lifespan of pup of turkey.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
Yeah, Well, in the previous thingment we were talking about
when this first happened with the first presidential pardon of
turkeys was and that was Abraham Lincoln, and he was.

Speaker 4 (20:40):
Really I didn't think it was bad for it really.

Speaker 3 (20:44):
But it became an official presidential act. So the first
time it was done with Abraham Lincoln, that the very
first presidential act was in nineteen eighty nine with George H. W.

Speaker 8 (20:55):
Bush.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
Okay, so you were right, you were right. That's when
it became the official act of the presidency to pardon
these these turkeys.

Speaker 4 (21:08):
It'd be interesting times for Abraham Lincoln to do that
because remember he was in the middle of the Civil
War at the time. That would have been eighteen sixty four,
in the middle well more towards the the latter part
of the Civil War. But it was probably something that

(21:29):
he needed to do just to take a breath, take
a day away from the horrors of those horrible times.

Speaker 3 (21:42):
That's right. And I think that there's another one of
our presidents who wrote his own speeches.

Speaker 4 (21:51):
That Abraham Lincoln.

Speaker 3 (21:54):
Yeah, well, right long, but they were certainly.

Speaker 4 (22:00):
Well I know you're you're referring or one of the
speeches was the Getticksburg Address. Gave him two and a
half minutes to give it. He wrote it on the
back of the numblope on the way to get Cksburg, Pennsylvania,
and it was one of the most remarkable and remarked

(22:21):
on speeches of all time. And you know what you
said about George Washington's Thanksgiving proclamation only four hundred some words, Yeah,
less than well, there you go. I don't know how
many words they are in the Getticksburg Address. But again,

(22:41):
another very short, very impactful speech.

Speaker 3 (22:47):
Yes well he President Trump said he had a speech
writer that suggested that he should talk about muh something
a little more humorous. He said that he'd prepared a

(23:10):
joke about Pretzer's weight. Now we're talking about Pritzer is
the Chicago fellow that can't seem to get it right.
And it's kind of heavy, but he said that he
just couldn't do it. He just refused to call Pritzer

(23:32):
fat slob. So he got it in there anyway.

Speaker 4 (23:37):
Any on his own weight that he could afford to use.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
But he didn't think he'd do it this year. I
don't think i'll get this my my weight off either.

Speaker 4 (23:51):
Well, I know I'm going to gain weight between now
and say Time's Day, or from Valentine's Day to Easter,
or I will be on a diet. I will be
on a low carb diet, cut out the snacking and
all those things that I love to do. And that's

(24:15):
my penance, you know, that's my Lent season, you know.
So it's a good time to lose weight.

Speaker 9 (24:21):
It is.

Speaker 4 (24:22):
Don't worry, I'll gain it back, but at leavest for
a while, I will have gained it. Well, I've lost it,
you know the.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
Next time Thanksgiving else around, right, Well.

Speaker 4 (24:33):
About every two years they go on one of these diets.
So and it's really it's you know, people, well, I
don't want to get off. I'm the diet expert for sure,
but people talk about how hard diets are. I don't know.

Speaker 6 (24:49):
Do I like being on the diet?

Speaker 1 (24:51):
No?

Speaker 4 (24:51):
I don't like being on the diet. But is that hard. No,
it's not that hard. You just know what you have
to do and you do it. That's all.

Speaker 6 (25:01):
I think about.

Speaker 3 (25:02):
It take them well, power takes it.

Speaker 6 (25:05):
Does take well power, it does take.

Speaker 4 (25:08):
One thing that I do is when I'm on my diet,
I take one day off a week and I eat
more or less what I want to do during that day.
But the other six days a week I stay pretty
pretty close to the diet. And one of the reasons
I take the one day off is Mary likes to
go out to dinner every now and again, you know.

Speaker 6 (25:27):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
So it's a.

Speaker 6 (25:31):
You know, one thing that I do, but I probably Yeah.

Speaker 4 (25:36):
The most I lost and it was from the end
of August to Thanksgiving, I lost thirty four pounds one year.
The first time I did it was thirty four pounds,
but usually I'll lose about twenty twenty five pounds in
that time and those weeks of Let well, Cheryl, let's

(25:57):
get a break in here and we can pick up
this topic. We could talk about how fat Rick is,
or how fat Donald Trump is, or Pritzker or wherever
we want to talk about. This is the conservative command
of this radio show because Sharon Agle, I'm Rick Trader,
and again I just want to say that we are
so thankful that you have decided to spend part of

(26:20):
your Thingsgiving day with us. We hope you're having a
wonderful day, and we'll be right back right after this break.

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Speaker 4 (28:03):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
Sharon Angle Imrich Trader, coming to you from the My
Pillow studios the Myser studios of the AU n TV network.
This Thanksgiving Day again, I wish you and yours a wonderful,
wonderful day. Don't forget the reason for today's holiday, Do

(28:25):
a little reading, do a little watching of some documentaries
about the real spirit of Thanksgiving, the real meaning of it,
and also the reasons we should be thankful. Number one
the greatest is that we have the blessings of Jesus Christ.

(28:46):
And number two, we're living in the greatest country in
the history of God's blue green planet.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
And there are a.

Speaker 4 (28:54):
Couple of wonderful reasons to be thankful. Also thankful for
for our view there are the listeners, the AU and
TV network and the conservative Commando's radio show. So, Sharon,
what else is on your radar screen?

Speaker 3 (29:10):
Well, Christmas is coming up, so I wanted to go
there next Parents and grandparents Alert Christmas. AI Teddy Bears
can teach kids about bondage, sex, how to light matches,
where to find knives, pills, and plastic bags. Wow, I

(29:31):
mean this is this is pretty ugly. AI powered Teddy
Bears discussing bondage and lighting matches. What brand It's follow
Toy Toys Follow Toy as a friendly educational companion reportedly

(29:54):
wandered into the charity of no territory of no child's
toys should ever approach It's follow fo l O Toy.
Researchers with the U S p I RG Education Fund
said that bear could deliver potentially dangerous informations including where

(30:15):
children could find knives, pills, matches, and even plastic bags.
They also said the toy described in a special detail
terms about how to light a match. So this is
an AI in able teddy bear bear follow toy. AI

(30:36):
toy or AI titty costs one hundred dollars, so it
should should be a little cost prohibitive. But when tester,
let's see it's it offered tips on how to be
a good kisser. When testers introduced sexual themes, the bear

(30:59):
didn't have. He just took that up. Researchers said that
they introduced sexual concept It also introduced sexual concepts on
its own, and one exchange reportedly led the toy into
giving step by steps instructions for tying up a partner.

(31:22):
The bear also described teachers, student, and parent child role
playing scenarios completely unprompted. When searchers pressed further, the toy
suggested role playing and even spanking as ways to increase
sexual excitement. This wasn't an isolated glitch. Researchers said that

(31:45):
it just continued to escalate as they continue to ask
it questions. So modern technology is complicated, but this is
like over the top. Now they've got this AI bear,
So you we just need to be really careful about

(32:08):
the toys that are coming out this Christmas and be
on the lookout because you know, everybody wants an educational
toy for their children. That's that's the thing, isn't it.
Your child introduced them to things that we'll give them
a head start. But this is a head start in

(32:33):
the wrong direction.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
Well, one good one good piece of news, Sharon. The
sales of this bear have been suspended. Great, So that's
that's one piece of good news. Laurie Wang, CEO of
Singapore bass Folow Toy, told CNN that the company had
withdrawn its Karma Bear, as well as the rest of

(32:59):
its range of AI enabled toys, after researchers at the
US pre Education Fund raised concerns around inappropriate conversation topics, including,
as you say, discussion of sexual fetiss such as spanking
and had to light a match. Well, maybe, thank god

(33:24):
this company has pulled this. The question is did they
pull it because it was found out what this bear
was doing. I mean, somebody had a program this bear,
don't you think.

Speaker 3 (33:36):
Well, and that they went ahead and made the bear
right to rear and started marketing the beard. You ask
us a really good question, did they pull it because
they were caught and they knew that everybody was going
to be so outraged by this that their sales would

(33:59):
plug on all of their toys I mean, or or
because it doesn't sound like something that they test and said,
oh no, we shouldn't put this out there. It was
already on the market.

Speaker 4 (34:14):
Absolutely, Then they pulled it.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Then they pulled it after the outrage started.

Speaker 4 (34:20):
That it should be that that toy should never ever
ever be allowed out in public, never ever.

Speaker 9 (34:28):
Yep.

Speaker 4 (34:29):
H Wall tours sure were different from you know when
we were kids. We got slugs, we got.

Speaker 3 (34:38):
I remember when the first Barbie dolls came out, and
boy were they controversial. Okay, because before then we all
had baby dolls, you know, we were so that's what
we did. But this this Barbie, she was something else,
and so that coused quite a stir.

Speaker 4 (34:55):
She was she's still ahead. She wasn't. She's still ahead.
But you there's one every year there's a fad toy.
Remember like the Cabbage Patch dolls. Everybody had to have one.
I mean, there were riots and stores to get They said,
wonder what the toy is this year for this year season.

(35:17):
If there is one toy that people there are clamoring
for I don't know, I don't know, all right, Kate, Well,
let's do break here. This is the Conservative commandos, Rick Traitor.
My coast is Sharon and Sharon Engel. Sharon and I
want to wish you a very merry Christmas is coming up,

(35:40):
but also I should say, have a wonderful and thankful Thanksgiving.
Don't go away, Sharon and I'll be back right after
this break.

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Speaker 4 (37:25):
Thank you for saying with this this our Thanksgiving Day
twenty twenty five. I'm Rick Dreader, my coasta Sharon Angle,
and we are coming to you from the My Pillow
studios and My Store studios of the au n TV network. Well, Sharon,
Mary's got the turkey and the other and I can
smell it already. I can't wait, So let's get through

(37:49):
this next segment so I can get on with the
rest of Mike or get into my Thanksgiving dinner.

Speaker 3 (37:56):
Well, I wanted to say I'm very thankful this you
for many things that President Trump has done, promises that
he's kept, and just the way that he has moved
forward to bring our country back to its greatness. And
one of those things that he did was to create

(38:20):
a new Department of Government Efficiency. And it was run
by Elon Musk and Boyd expose fraud, waste and corruption.
And now it's been disbanded, and it was disbanded early.

(38:41):
It was only supposed to go another eight months. But
now it's been disbanded. And yet there's such complaint because
it was dissolved eight months early and absorbed into the
Office of PM. Off each Office of Public Management anyway,

(39:03):
oh PM. But the banks over it being disbanded. I thought,
why why are we upset about that? At the department
came in, it did its job. Elon must said done here,
you need to get back to what I was doing.

(39:23):
It was a temporary office. You know, usually with government,
anything that's temporary never goes away.

Speaker 6 (39:31):
You're right about that.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
It's gone. It did what it was supposed to do,
and now it's gone. I'm really thankful that we had it,
that it exposed what it did, and that we are
now moving on. But you know, it's just interesting to
me how we mourn mourn over the shutting down of

(39:57):
a government agency. I wonder if they shut if there,
if there are mourners for Doe, what the mourning is
going to be like when the Department of Education finally
shuts down. Well, obviously it has to go.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
I think our Recida is going to be doing a
lot of cheat at cheering and celebrating. The Left is
going to do a lot of hand ringing, crying, whining, lawsuits,
threats of lawsuits. You know, So it depends what starte
you're coming from. I think as long as there's going

(40:39):
to be government, there's going to be politicians. There's going
to be waste for an abuse. So if dose was
wash put into another department, I hope they keep an
eye on the way the government spends money. I really

(41:02):
do hope. So well, you know, there's a lot of duplication.
There's a lot of duplication in the government, all right,
But I really do think that there needs to be
watchdogs on the way money is spent and what it's
spent on, and who's spending it. You know, what's coming

(41:22):
out more and more about all the waste, all the
fraud coming out of Minnesota in the Somali community. You know,
you talked about that yesterday. It's just incredible, incredible amounts
of waste. We're were to watch dogs then, all right,

(41:42):
so we need watch dogs to watch the government. Maybe
you know what, Sharon, maybe DOGE should not be part
of the government. Maybe it should be an independent organization
of watchdogs. Maybe like you and I that were openthebooks.

(42:04):
Dot com is another great organization. And never and never
is the federal government going to cut things like welfare
and food stamps and all these entitlements because it's got
like the third rail. You know how they used to
talk about solid security being the third rail of politics. Well,
the third rail of politics now is all these free

(42:24):
giveaway programs. And you know what they add on Albamacare
wasn't add on you know, all these all these programs.
You know, and I've talked about this before here at
Conservative Commanders. The food stamp program was a temporary six
month program started in nineteen sixty four by Lyndon Baines

(42:49):
Johnson was only going to run six months temporary program
just to help people out for a little bit.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
Uh gee, I think that six months is up, don't you.
But we still got it.

Speaker 4 (43:01):
It's expanded and expanded and expanded what we did for
a break and usually usually get quiet on me at
the break time. We will take We will take that break.
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Speaker 4 (45:09):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders Radio
Show with Sharon Angle and your Shirley Rick Drader heventy
from the Mypillar Studios in My Store studios of the
au N TV network, and Hey Sharon, our first guest
of the day with this, and I know this is
one of your favorite topics, Sharon, please take it away.

Speaker 3 (45:28):
Well, he's also one of my favorite guests, and that
is doctor Jerome Corsi. Since two thousand and four, doctor
Corsi has published over twenty five books, six of which
were New York Times bestsellers, including two number one New
York Times bestsellers. In the nineteen eighty doctor Corsi received
the top secret clearance to work with the State Department

(45:50):
of Terrorism and hostage survival issues. He published a computer
model that he developed successfully to predict the outcome of terrorists,
and published a journal, Conflict Resolution, a peer reviewed game
theoretic journal published by Yale University University. In his new book,
The Anti Globalist Manifesto, Ending the War on Humanity, Doctor

(46:14):
Corsy puts out a call for action to reverse the
total totalitarian goals of the New World Order globalist Doctor Corsi,
welcome back to the Conservative Commandos radio show.

Speaker 8 (46:26):
Thank you, Sharon, it's great to be back with you.

Speaker 3 (46:28):
It's wonderful to have you. And we have an article
that you wrote. Wisconsin Supreme Court at election screams for
Department of Justice criminal investigation. Well, okay, let's unpack that,
because that seems to be when we go to court,
they say, well is there a crime here? And if so,
who's the criminal? So let's talk about an election that

(46:50):
you feel is criminals.

Speaker 10 (46:52):
Well, this was the election that occurred on April one
in Wisconsin. It was for a Wisconsin Supreme Court justice position,
and the two candidates who had the Republican was again
named Shimmel, he was former attorney general and Susan Crawford
was the opponent, the hard left opponent.

Speaker 8 (47:12):
She was completely woke. I mean, she was.

Speaker 10 (47:15):
Supported by a transvestite who made a big deal. They
were holding transvestite bingo parties for her on John and
she's worn.

Speaker 6 (47:24):
I'm sorry I missed that one.

Speaker 10 (47:26):
Yeah, they had to be a wonder to behold.

Speaker 8 (47:30):
I'm sure they were amazing.

Speaker 10 (47:33):
So she is completely against voter I d of course,
what the first suspicion was that the voter ID amendment,
which on the same ballot as the Supreme Court justice
in April first in Wisconsin, it won by five hundred
and eighty three thousand votes. But yet Susan Crawford won
beat the conservative attorney general by almost two hundred and

(47:56):
forty thousand votes. Now, how did all the people who
were voting for voter ID to be on the constitution
in Wisconsin the state constitution sudden they switch around and
vote for this Susan Crawford, who is opposed to voter ID.
And it turns out that the database in Wisconsin is
one of the most corrupt in the country. If we

(48:17):
go to our website, which is godsfive Stones dot com
as God asked for no apostrophe to spell out five
five and stones is plural Gods five stones dot comets.
After of course of David and Goliath story in which
David picks five smoothstones from a broken to the right
stones to get Goliath, we won't get the right stones
to get the voter integrity issue. So the President's executive

(48:40):
order demanding voter ID and proven citizenship are the standard
of the country by the midterm elections. Well, on that
website we report Andrew Biquette, PhD, who is found in
the state official voter registration databases. There are codes and
it in the computer of the State Board of Election.
From the computer the you know, the state board is

(49:01):
unaware of it, but they allow the creation of falsified voters,
which are modified duplicates. They're slightly different, like they could
be forger ome courses, and they all have different birth.

Speaker 8 (49:12):
Dates, so they all have different addresses.

Speaker 10 (49:15):
Yet they all get separate IDs because they look like
voter individual different voters. And so you get three false
records that can be voted and get legitimate state IDs
as if they were real, but they're fictitious. They're modified duplicates.
And in Wisconsin, which has a voter they've got something

(49:37):
like seven million voters in their voter roles, they've got
eight hundred and seventy four thousand modified duplicates. I mean,
this is, you know, incredible, that's that's about twelve or
thirteen percent, and all of those are illegitimate voters. And
then what's worse is that a large number of people,

(49:59):
all the the supervisors of the elections in the cities
and counties have a access to the where the Wisconsin
Election Commission computers through usernames and passwords, and all the employees,
especially the senior employees of the Election Commission, also have
user name password access and they can switch inactive voters

(50:24):
to active voters. In Wisconsin, which has a population of
about five point nine million voters, you've got about three
point six million that are registered active, but you've got
about four point four million that are inactive. And every year,
especially before big election presidential years, they someone goes into

(50:44):
the computer within the state system and starts taking two
hundred and fifty thousand to five hundred thousand inactive voters
and makes them active so they can be voted in
the election. Then after the election they're removed out again.
So the opportunities here for fraud are rampant, and the
whole system is a criminal system because you can't have

(51:06):
two or more voters voter IDs for the same person.
And since all four drome courses are me, I've got
end up with four voter IDs, so I can be
voted four times in Wisconsin, which is ridiculous and also criminal.

Speaker 8 (51:24):
And so when we look at the.

Speaker 10 (51:25):
Erases like the one that was just lost, got put
that in quotation marks that Chimbo lost, I think we
could go back. Once we can get the voter history,
we can find out how many of these modified duplicates
and other fictitious voters requested mail in ballots in Wisconsin,
but they didn't really exist, and that's the first level

(51:48):
of fraud, and there's more, but I think that alone
is pretty damning and as indication that some criminals have
gotten into the computer in Wisconsin and that needs to
be criminally investigator by the Justice Department. That appears to
be doing nothing, but do you.

Speaker 3 (52:05):
Get them to do something? That just makes the question
because you're right, and this is not happening just in Wisconsin,
and maybe you could talk about.

Speaker 10 (52:14):
That too, what's happening all over the country. It was
constantly found something I think that is even worse. And
they have what we call doubles. I've never seen this before,
but Paquet noticed that we're a lot more records ending
in zero than should be the case. Okay, so you
found that every zero, so every tenth voter, you know,

(52:35):
you're one to nine, and the next one ten worth
ends in zero.

Speaker 8 (52:38):
Then you go to twenty that ends in zero, et cetera.

Speaker 10 (52:41):
All through the database, a single voter ID was assigned
to two different voters. Now this is especially important because
of course it's illegal, violate TABA. Somebody's committed a crime,
but it's systematic. So if every tenth voter is a double.

Speaker 8 (53:03):
Two voters on one ID. That's a conscious design, that's
an algorithm. Somebody had to code that through the entire system.

Speaker 10 (53:12):
So the computer took every every voter ID that ended
the zero, made sure two voters were loaded up onto
that number. Okay, and that's again I'm not sure why
they did that unless they were trying to, you know,
be able to just pick these doubles and vote two
people in mail in ballots. Maybe both of them are fictitious.

(53:32):
But the point is this shouldn't exist in the computer
or the wisconstant system. The fact that it does means
a crime has been committed. The crime is within the
board of election.

Speaker 3 (53:44):
So how do you get investigated. It sounds like you've
already done the investigation. It's really a matter of just
getting someone in official capacity to go in there and
say there is a crime, and we'll now look for
the person who did it.

Speaker 10 (54:00):
Well, I think we're becoming increasingly critical of Pam BONDI.
I mean, she is not appointed. The US attorneys, they
have subpoena power. We've got most states without state attorneys
US attorneys and running the Justice Department isn't all that hard,
you know, look at how the Democrats do it. They
set up a task force Operation Hurricane, you know, Operation

(54:21):
Hurricane Crossfire, that's the Russian collusion, and then they appoint
Department of Justice attorneys to that task force. They get
FBI investigators that task force, they've got subpoena power. They
can go out and investigate, they can create a grand jury,
call people the grand jury, they can get indictments and prosecute.

(54:42):
So where is Pam Bondi's task force on election integrity.

Speaker 8 (54:47):
She hasn't done it.

Speaker 10 (54:48):
She doesn't know how the Justice Department works, and she
shouldn't have the job. Or she's protecting ron de Santa's
because she's from Florida, or the the Justice Department defending
itself is so good at inflecting any criminal investigation that
they're resisting Donald Trump already. But the point is we
need to put pressure on Pam Bondy not to be

(55:10):
another Bill Barr.

Speaker 8 (55:12):
We sat around saying he was.

Speaker 10 (55:13):
Going to do all this investigation work with the inspector
generals and gave passes to everybody. So the American people
are going to tolerate this. This We're going to if
we do not get these algorithms out of the State
Board of Election databases. By the midterm elections in twenty
twenty six, the Democrats will steal the House in the Senate,
and then they'll make the last two years of Trump's

(55:35):
second term complete hell, just like they did in the
first term, with impeachment after impeachment after impeachment, law fair
tying him up and making his life miserable.

Speaker 8 (55:44):
So we can't accomplish anything.

Speaker 10 (55:46):
These bureaucracies we have not fired near enough, and I
think Dog has got to be cleansing out these agencies.
We need to keep Doge going long enough to get
the job done.

Speaker 3 (55:59):
Before we started this segment of the show, you said that, well,
this is a paraphrase. We talked about your article just
a bit, and you said, it's like the tip of
the iceberg, that this is just what we know now
in one area, but it goes it's systemic within the

(56:20):
election system here in America. Is that correct?

Speaker 8 (56:23):
Now?

Speaker 10 (56:23):
Every database we've looked at has algorithms in it coding
the ability to create false voters.

Speaker 8 (56:29):
Every state database.

Speaker 10 (56:30):
Is riddled with illegals who are registered to vote, double
voter registrations, so these modified duplicates. I think we're now
going to start finding the doubles with one ID being
shared by multiple voters. We've got vote harvesting where they
know the Democrats go out and they register all the homeless,
everybody in the trailer park, and they use a common address,

(56:54):
maybe the address is the city hall. And the balancers
sent to the Democrats doing the voter harvesting, they don't
expect that these people are going to vote. The whole
idea is to get the Democrats idea of voting is
to get somebody who doesn't exist or is not allowed
to vote, to have a legitimate state idea and get
their vote to count, and to even make up that

(57:16):
vote for them, to cheat entirely just by filling out
the ballot for them, or in any way creating false
mail in votes in huge numbers to win an election,
all generated through the computer. You request a mail in ballot,
the person doesn't exist, so you don't print it up,
but the computer says it was requested. You print it up,

(57:37):
only to run it through the tabulation machine. The number
of the vote tabulated matches the idea of the person
requesting it email the person doesn't exist in the vote counts.

Speaker 3 (57:47):
Okay, So we heard about as secretaries of State Project.
Soros funded it a while back. How important are the
secretaries of state because he focused in on their election
duties as something that was important for the progressives or
the Democrats to have a handle on. How important is

(58:09):
the secretary of state if we had someone in that office,
is that a beginning of an investigation or still has
to go to the federal level.

Speaker 10 (58:18):
Well, I think we need to have the federal government
involved because I think the states are not going to
take seriously their own criminality. States want it there and
know it's there, and are just saying, well, it's not important,
or we've gotten clean databases. I mean, in Ohio we
found an algorithm, they still insisted, well it wasn't used.

Speaker 8 (58:38):
Well they don't know that, okay.

Speaker 10 (58:41):
But the states are not going to blow the whistle
on themselves, and the state officials aren't largely in on it,
especially in the states where it helps the Democrats, and
the Democrats don't care about the Democrats become a communist
party and they're rapidly morphing into treason this party, okay,

(59:03):
and they don't care to follow the rules. They want
to destroy the rules or destroy America in order to
create their communists, totalitarianism where we're all censored. They're just
tools of the globalists. So the stays not going to
solve the problem.

Speaker 3 (59:17):
So basically, you just don't feel like there would be
someone that could get into that office where even if
they did get into that office and we're on our side,
could they do anything about it.

Speaker 10 (59:29):
They could if they wanted to, They could investigate it,
they could blow the whistle. But ultimately you're gonna have
to call it the federal government because these are federal crimes,
violating federal laws. HABA, they help America Vote Act, There's
various acts that this violates. These are federal crimes and
so therefore they need to be brought to the federal level.
And if we've completely corrupted the judiciary with woke sorrows

(59:54):
appointees as district attorneys or as Board of Election officials,
or you know, even an Apartment of justice on the judges,
well Trump castes could do something like saying, introducing Congress
a bill to reorganize the federal district and circuit courts
they're constituted by Congress. Well, that could mean that every

(01:00:14):
single district and circuit court judge and the federal system
would lose their job because their courts were reorganized. And
that may not be a bad idea.

Speaker 3 (01:00:25):
Oh my goodness, but there's so much vested interest in
what you've just said that getting to the bottom of
that would be really, really difficult, even for this president
who is just going gangbusters right now trying to at
least reveal what's going on. I'm so interested in your
God's five stones dot com, Gods five stones dot com

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and these reports that you're putting up there. Thank you
so much, your own course, for being such a true
patriot and looking at the most fundamental of our rights.
With that, we're going to go to a commercial break.
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Speaker 4 (01:03:19):
Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio Show with Sharon
Engle and you'r Shirley Rick t Reader. Coming to you
from the MIPIL studios and My Story Studios of the
aun TV network. Our guest is segment is doctor Jerome Corsi,
best selling author, and we're discussing the election that just
took place in Milwaukee, the Supreme Court election. Doctor Coursy,

(01:03:41):
thank you for holding through that break. We really really
do appreciate your time.

Speaker 6 (01:03:46):
Thank you, doctor, course.

Speaker 4 (01:03:48):
He was fascinating just listening to you and Sharon during
that last segment. In reading the article that she wrote,
it seems like, wow, I never realized that Wisconsin, the
people in Wisconsin were so civic minded. I mean the
fact that in the November twenty twenty four election, seventy

(01:04:14):
eight percent, seventy eight percent of the population of that
state got out to vote. I mean, they are really
public citizens out there, doctor Quercy.

Speaker 6 (01:04:26):
Is that some kind of a record for turnout.

Speaker 10 (01:04:29):
It was a real record for off presidential year election. Yes,
and in Wisconsin it was setting records. There was a
lot of interest.

Speaker 8 (01:04:38):
In this Crawford shimal election and.

Speaker 10 (01:04:44):
It has a lot of significance in Wisconsin because the
Crawford won means that this whole German during scheme. See,
the Democrats in Wisconsin have rigged a couple of congressional
districts to go to the Democrats, right, and it'll capture
two more seats for the Democrats in the House of Representatives, which.

Speaker 8 (01:05:02):
Already has a thin margin.

Speaker 10 (01:05:04):
And this judge is saying that she will approve the
geomandering scheme of the Democrats, whereas you know, the previous
last year, the Wisconsin Supreme Court rejected that plan, wouldn't
even consider it. And so therefore also all kinds of
measures on woke issues, you know, teaching this gender dysphory

(01:05:25):
in the schools and all the other things woke. You consider,
you know, thinking of the crime, the criminals are the victims,
and all these things are are what Crawford thinks. So
if you tip the balance of the Supreme Court, it
are it's currently God left his balance. They will still
be reaffirmed if Crawford does take the seat, whereas it

(01:05:47):
had a chance to balance that off if if Crawford
had lost. And so therefore Wisconsin is now again a
swing state. And the algorithms were not used in the
presidential election in twenty twenty four, but we're showing the
algorithms were used in this judicial race, the down ballot
election in twenty twenty five in Wisconsin. And so that's

(01:06:09):
the problem. I think the US House of Representatives, I
think there's probably twenty seats that were stolen by algorithms
by the Democrats, and maybe five seats in the US Senate.

Speaker 4 (01:06:18):
Wow, well, doctor Corssi, you know, I think there's another
candid worms to be open here. They also this same
night elected or voted for voter id. I could easily
see that once this woman is seated that there will
be lawsuits saying that we want to overturn that now,

(01:06:43):
and with Democrats controlling the majority of the seats in
the Supreme gorton Wisconsin that could be overturned, that could
be stopped.

Speaker 8 (01:06:53):
I think that's the plan. That's why the Democrats don't.

Speaker 10 (01:06:56):
Mind that that amendment won, because with Crawford on the
Supreme Court, if they stole Crawford's election, that this voter
i D amendment to the Wisconsin Constitution has no chance
of being implemented. And so they know that, and so
the Democrats know that they're going to steal this election
and win two seats in the House. They're going to

(01:07:19):
block any efforts to investigate voter fraud, and they're going
to block any efforts to get legitimate voting through voter
ID improved citizenship. So you've got the it's a form
of lawfare which the Democrats are using. The algorithms, these
schemes that create false voters, non existent voters that can

(01:07:39):
be hidden in the database and voted at will by
the criminals who know where the know which votes are,
the votes that are multiple, slightly modified, duplicates or doubles,
are going to say id.

Speaker 6 (01:07:55):
Doctor Corusy.

Speaker 4 (01:07:56):
In the segment with Sharon, you talked to you the
it's out up a scenario for Jerome courses.

Speaker 6 (01:08:03):
Do you know and not? Do you know if those.

Speaker 4 (01:08:07):
Four Jerome courses voted in Wisconsin? Not you in particular,
but do you know that in instances where there are
multiple ideas for the same person, do we know if
those other false ideas were voted.

Speaker 10 (01:08:25):
Well, we would if we had the voter history. But
Wisconsin has not given us yet the voter history for
the twenty twenty four election, and this April first, they're
not going to give us a voter history on this,
at least for a month. If we get it, then
they're going to certify the election before we get to
go through the voters who voted to check them against

(01:08:46):
all these false positives.

Speaker 8 (01:08:47):
We know are there.

Speaker 10 (01:08:49):
And so the Democrats have rigged this whole system so
they will have a certified election before we have the
data on who voted. That it's got to also be intentional.
We should have that date to the next day. It's
in the computers. Why can't the people know it? Okay, well,
we don't want the people to know.

Speaker 4 (01:09:10):
It, doctor Coursey has everybody knows the state of Wisconsin
went for Donald Trump. But in the same election election
night of November of twenty twenty four, the night of
the presidential election, there was also a Senate election in

(01:09:30):
the state of Wisconsin. Even though that Donald Trump took
the state, Tammy Baldwin took the Senate race. And you
have in your article. I find this is fascinating. At
four am when election night November sixth, a saggering one
and eight absentee ballots were dumped in Milwaukee, eight thousand

(01:09:54):
dumped in Milwaukee. Ninety percent of those mail in ballots
went for Tammy Baldwin. Again, it seems like a voter
corruption is even more than a cottage industry in Wisconsin.

Speaker 10 (01:10:07):
Yes, and we chilled them in Wisconsin using in all
the battleground states. If you notice in twenty twenty four
they all quit counting on election night and reported for Trump.
Because we caught the algorithms. We're going to catch them
using them. What they did in twenty twenty is the algorithms,
they stop, all the battleground states stop counting, and overnight

(01:10:28):
all these mail in ballots come into the office and
it run through the machine know if they're mailed or
whether we're just made up in the back room, and
it's the mail in ballot fraud of voting non existing
voters that the Democrats planned to use to steal the
presidential election in twenty twenty four, but they couldn't.

Speaker 8 (01:10:45):
Once we found it.

Speaker 10 (01:10:46):
Still they use the algorithm in the other down ballot elections,
like Eric Hovdy's race for Senate and now the Supreme
Court justice race the Crawford won supposedly won. I mean,
should I put that in quotation mark because I don't
know they did win it.

Speaker 4 (01:11:02):
Doctor COURSI I would think that whoever runs the election
in any state in Wisconsin and Milwaukee would be well
supplied with ballots before the election. However, that night of
the election on April first, seven Milwaukee seven Milwaukee polling

(01:11:23):
locations ran out of ballots and other locations ran low
due to unprecedented turnout. Now, our friend George Landreth here
on The Conservative Commander's radio show, tells of the story
when he was a poll worker in Virginia, he got
wind of a bus that was going around with people,

(01:11:46):
and they had been to several other polling locations, so
he was ready for this bus when it reached his location.
And what he did was when that bus pulled up,
he jumped on the bus and he said well, you're
welcome to come here and vote. However, if you've already voted,
you are violating a law.

Speaker 6 (01:12:05):
Now, if you have not voted, please come in.

Speaker 4 (01:12:07):
But if you've already voted, rest is sure you're breaking
a law. George got off that bus. That bus closed
its stores, drove away. Not a single person got off
that bus. Any sign that something similar may have taken
place in Wisconsin, particularly in Milwaukee that night.

Speaker 10 (01:12:27):
Well, I haven't heard of that particular instance happening. But
what I know is that your two counties, Dane County,
which is Madison, Wisconsin, where the universities are, you know,
and then also Milwaukee where Milwaukee is. These are the
two counties that reliably woke in Wisconsin and the rest

(01:12:47):
of the in for instance, in the vote for voter
ideas as a constitutional amendment in Wisconsin, there are only
two counties that voted against that amendment, and they were
Milwaukee County and Dane County. Included in Dane County, So
it's clear that Wisconsin's predominantly a conservative state in terms

(01:13:08):
of geographic regions including counties. But the numbers of the
university students in Madison, Wisconsin, the.

Speaker 8 (01:13:16):
Number of the minorities and others who are.

Speaker 10 (01:13:18):
Leftists in Milwaukee change the voter compensation competition of the
state because these are two very populous counties. A lot
of the counties in the northern part of Wisconsin are
rural and they're very thinly populated. So the Democrats are
controlling the cities, especially in you know, throughout the north,

(01:13:38):
and the cities then are democratic because that the minorities
have controlled the cities. The minorities are Democrats. So again
we're we're seeing the corruption occur, the voting stealing occur,
not the presidential election where it would be caught, I
believe and seen, but at down ballot actions that impact

(01:14:01):
the federal government, elections for the US House and for
the Senate. And so therefore we need investigative we need
the devrontmental justice to kick in and start doing something.
So far, we don't have enough US attorneys appointed, we're
not getting any task force is created, we don't have
any investigations going on. Everything is drifting yet. Now I

(01:14:22):
think Donald Trump's doing a great job as president casting
the themes of the administration, but you can't have his
own people undercutting him, right, And that's what's happening in
the House and Senate right now is they're thinking, well,
they'll just whether Donald Trump out he won't run again,
and be done with him in four years, and then
they'll get everything they want.

Speaker 4 (01:14:43):
Doctor Chursie, We've got about a minute before we have
to wrap up, but I wanted to give you an
opportunity to let our listeners and viewers know how they
could keep in contact with you, how they could read
the things you're write and also get your books.

Speaker 8 (01:14:56):
Well, thank you.

Speaker 10 (01:14:57):
I mean, I've started the podcast again in Corseination Corsenation
dot com, c O r SI Nation dot com, and
I'm doing weekday podcasts every day. Then I'm writing on
American Thinker American Thinker dot com when most of my
articles are appearing. I'm still shadowbanned on X and my

(01:15:17):
book too. My books are available on Amazon dot com
and I have a new one just coming out now
on Disease X with Todd Calendar, who's a good friend
and very knowledgeable about how these world health organizations work
to create diseases and vaccines that kill you.

Speaker 8 (01:15:38):
So I'm still writing a lot of books.

Speaker 10 (01:15:39):
I'm still very active Courseination dot com, Gods find Stones
dot com for the for the voter integrity issues, and
we are taking donations to keep this work going. We
are right through the midterms at least to try to
get indictments and convictions at the federal level of these criminals.

Speaker 4 (01:15:57):
All right, doctor Coursi, we want to thank you so
much for joining us. It's always a great pleasure to
have you on our show. Take care and God.

Speaker 8 (01:16:05):
Bless God bless. Thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:16:06):
Reck and you are listening to and watching The Conservative
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Speaker 4 (01:18:41):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos Radio.
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you know, I think energy is one of the big
issues in this country today. Energy. The the government of
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(01:19:05):
our domestic energy of gas, oil, coal, nuclear, whatever. And
President made a proclamation s A at Waite House as
we just saw and wanted to bring this next guest
on to talk about maybe the end of the war
on cole to Sharon, please make that introduction.

Speaker 3 (01:19:22):
It's my pleasure to introduce Steve molloy, who is recognized
leader in the fight against junk science with more than
thirty three years of experience, and is credited with popularizing
the term junk science. He's a founder and publisher of
junkscience dot com and an environmental and public health consultant.
Steve served on the EPA transition team for the Trump

(01:19:44):
administration and serves on the board of several not for
profit organizations, including the Heartland Institute and the American Energy Institute. Steve,
welcome back to the Conservative Commandos radio show.

Speaker 9 (01:19:57):
Sure, thanks for having me. It's great to be back.

Speaker 3 (01:19:59):
Oka talk about making coal great agains. How do we
do that?

Speaker 9 (01:20:05):
Well, we have to take the boot off the coal
industry's neck, which was placed there by Barack Obama and
then Joe Biden. When I worked in the coal industry
for a number of years myself and when I worked there,
the coal industry was responsible for generating about half of
our electricity. Now it's down to about fifteen percent. President Trump,

(01:20:26):
of course, is very energized about coal, and the MAGA
Energy plan, as I see it, is to get back
to the point where we are generating more electricity with coal,
and then we can take all that beautiful natural gas
we have and export it to Europe and Asia where
they will pay six times more for it than a

(01:20:46):
US utility. So coal is cheap, We've got hundreds of
years of supply, it's burned cleanly. You know. The MAGA
energy plan is to burn coal for electricity, export the
natural gas, and count the money.

Speaker 3 (01:21:00):
Simple. Simple, Well, I get more work than that, but
it sounds like though the President agrees with you. It's
a simple plan, and he's put that first step in place,
which is an executive order. Talk about that, well.

Speaker 9 (01:21:14):
So he you know, he came in on day one
with an executive order for EPA to roll back w
all the agencies, the EPA Department of Energy and Department Material,
roll back all the anti American energy, anti energy dominance rules,
and yesterday's announcement for more executive orders really focusing on

(01:21:34):
the coal industry and the electricity grid just a little
bit more explicit. Now. You know, while all these executive
orders are great, and President Trump's head and heart are
in the right place. The trick is to get this
stuff done, and that there's going to be a lot
more work involved than simply issue with executive orders. Now
he's got, you know, I think a pretty good team

(01:21:55):
in place. EPA is run by Lee Zelden, Department of
Material by Doug Bergham, and Department Energy by Chris Wright.
These you know, these are good guys, knowledgeable, you know, loyal,
and I think they're going to implement the program. But
there's still a lot of work to be done. I mean,
we're talking fifty five years of over regulation by e

(01:22:17):
PA and really sort of criminal regulation implemented by the
Obama administration and Invite administration. So it's going to take
a lot of work. It probably takes more than four years.
But they're going to try to do as much as possible.
I mean, as you can see what they've done with immigration,
I mean it's pedal to the metal. This stuff is
going to be a little bit more difficult because it

(01:22:38):
involves complex rulemaking. But go start someplace.

Speaker 3 (01:22:43):
Now, I was the state legislator, so we had regulations.
They are the nuts and bolts of implementing a law.
Is that the same at the federal level is my question,
are they the implementation? But the root of that question
is do we have to go back to Congress and
get rid of these regulations or can simply the head

(01:23:06):
of that department say we're going away with these regulations.

Speaker 9 (01:23:09):
Well, so that's really a great question, you know. I
think that there is a lot of regulation that can
sort of be not enforced by EPA, and you can
try to make the environmentals if they don't like it,
they can try to get EPA and go to court,
try to get EPA to you know, implement whatever regulation.
I think that Trump could prevail with that. But we

(01:23:30):
want to make this more permanent, and so it's going
to take you know, going through redoing the regulations that
don't get a certain amount of permanence. Which you really want, though,
is for Congress to fix that. Now. I know that
there's probably a little chance of Congress being able to
do anything, but it's really what you want. I mean,
we are operating with environmental regulations, environmental laws that are

(01:23:54):
almost fifty years old.

Speaker 4 (01:23:55):
Now.

Speaker 9 (01:23:56):
Nineteen seventy was a very different different time in America. Yeah,
the a the air was less clean, the water sometimes
the river's caught on fire. It's not like that anymore.
Before I had started on working on EPA nineteen ninety,
all those problems have been fixed. And since then it's
been nothing but over regulation. But we have, you know,
we haven't changed the laws. We've kept using the same laws,

(01:24:16):
even though we've learned a lot more about the environment.
We have a completely different environment, we have a completely
different economy. We know all these things, but none of
them have been incorporated into environmental laws or environmental protection
and so we have this massive overregulation that Obama and
Biden used to destroy the coal industry, and they tried
to destroy the old gas industry but failed. If they

(01:24:38):
ever get back into power, they will do so again.
So we've got to, you know, really rethink everything. I'm
not quite sure that Congress is up to it, just
because it's Congress, and it just really you know, I
don't know, they can't do anything right. But that's really
sort of hard of the problem. We've got to fix
these old laws and regulations.

Speaker 3 (01:25:00):
Let's let's talk about the heart and who can fix it.
The appetite, I guess in Congress, we know that those
coal states, they're our legislators should be introducing some of this.
Is that happening or are they just kind of sitting
back and saying, well, let's wait and see. Let's wait
and see just how much this president can do on

(01:25:22):
his own and maybe we don't have to expose ourselves
in the next election.

Speaker 9 (01:25:26):
Well, you know, we we're at a point where EPA
has preempted all the states. I mean, EPA regulations have
shut down the coal industry and you know, shut down
the utilities or block utilities, made it more difficult, more
expensive to burn coal. And at the same time, you know,
they have been incentivized to use wind and solar. We

(01:25:46):
have the Inflation Reduction Act, which President Trump calls the
green new Scam, with more than a trillion dollars worth
of spending on on you know, wind power substates, for
WIZ substies, for solar evs, all this nonz and utilities
have been incentives to do the wrong thing, and utility managements,
of course, have done the wrong thing. And now we're
at a place where our electricity grid is very much

(01:26:09):
at risk. I mean, all the regulators say, oh my god.
You know, if we need more electricity, we just don't
have it because we have all this unreliable wind and solar,
and now we have AI coming on but were you know,
data centers just need the power and so that has
been militating against you know, with the Greens have been
trying to do big tech ironically is not going to

(01:26:29):
be able to get to that zero. They actually need
coal power. So you know, there's a lot going on.
It's very confusing. Lawmakers don't really know where we are.
Regulators well, they're mostly leftists who want to implement the
left wing agenda. It's a very confusing time. And you know,
President Trump, he's being a great leader now, but we've

(01:26:50):
got to follow through and make sure that all this happens.
You know, Republicans kind of suck at running government. They
just do because it's not their thing, and I applaud
them for not being their thing. But Democrats do know
how to run government, and that's why Obama and Biden
were so successful destroying the coal industry. Now Republicans are
going to somehow have to pull it out of their
back pocket and figure out how to undo all this

(01:27:11):
stuff and make America great again. You know, we became
a tremendous industrial power before EPA and before all this
environmental nuttiness, and that's what allowed us to become the
great industrial power. Once we built up our wealth, then
we sort of adopted all this environmental access and now
once again we've stagnated. So we've got to roll back

(01:27:32):
the bad, you know, keep what's useful, roll back the bad,
and let our industries grow again. We've got to reindustrialize America.
We need energy for that.

Speaker 3 (01:27:41):
Okay, So renamed the EPA Department Secretary, and talk about
is he the first person that needs to go in
and begin and what would you if you were that guy,
what would do you start with?

Speaker 9 (01:27:57):
Okay? Well, so the new EPA administrator is Lee's Elden,
former congressman from New York. He was a moderate, but
he is now very maga. You know. He recognizes that
his mission at EPA is to implement the president's policy.
That's all to the good. But that said, he's got
a lot to do. The first thing I would do

(01:28:17):
is really sort of the next step from yesterday. I
would have a giant rule making, one single rule making
that could be done within a year. That would roll
back the war on coal which started during the Obama administration.
There's a bunch of war on coal regulations. They should
all be rolled back. Instead of doing it serially or
in parallel, just do them all at once in one

(01:28:38):
rule making. I think that's the most important thing he
could do. It's all the same junk science that was
you know, used to railroad the coal industry. Just deal
with it at once, get it over with, and a
year from now we could be free. The war a
Cole could be over.

Speaker 3 (01:28:54):
So do you have his number and could you call
him car Can we send him a copy of this
show so they they're well, it's a place to start,
or do you think he's already on it and we
don't need to worry anymore.

Speaker 9 (01:29:09):
Well, you know, look there's there's a lot to do,
and these guys are drinking from a fire hydrant, and
you know he's it's a big agency to run. He's
you know, Lee's Elton has done great work so far.
He's gone after the green new scam fraud. He's uncovered
the you know, it was like twenty seven billion dollars
I think that were shoveled out the door at the
last minute the Biden administration to these green groups. You know,

(01:29:31):
Stacy Abrams had formed a green group that got two
billion dollars to buy appliances for people. You know, if
you like the Obama phones, remember those. Now you've got
have like Biden air conditioners and Biden refrigerators.

Speaker 4 (01:29:43):
So he's got by the way, I heard she just
remodeled her own kitchen.

Speaker 6 (01:29:47):
Thank you for that.

Speaker 9 (01:29:50):
So he's got a lot to do. And yeah, you know,
I know him and I've talked with him. He's he's
just got a lot to do. He needs help from
the Office of Management Budget, which is in charge of
managing all the regulatory flow. He's got to have. President
Trump's got to chuck back in on everybody and see
where we are, what's going on. There's going to be

(01:30:12):
a lot of litigation. If you think there was a
lot of litigation with immigration, the environmentalists are going to
fight just as fiercely for what they want.

Speaker 3 (01:30:21):
Okay, So with litigation, you make this across the board,
big order and it takes out all of that stuff.
Is that better when you come to lawsuits or is
it better to go and look for the ones that
nobody's going to fight you on so we can get
those off the table and save the big ones where

(01:30:42):
they might litigate and put them in a different place,
rather than exposing the whole built to litigation. I guess
what I'm asking you is what the strategy is here
to get the most without having to go to court
and fight four years over it.

Speaker 9 (01:30:57):
Well, you have to. We have to be ready for
the fight. I mean, we have all the science and
facts and economics and law on our side. You can't
no matter what you try to do, they're going to
fight you. You might as well just make it a
big fight. We have a you know, supposedly six conservatives.
The Supreme Court doesn't always seem that way. You know,

(01:31:17):
we've just got to be confident. We have all the
facts on our side. There's nothing they have. I mean,
all they have is ignorance and fear, and I think
we can prevail. We just need to make a conservative effort.
You know, the problem with the environment, the reason it's
gotten away from us is because conservatives just traditionally historically
it's not that they don't care about the environment, it's

(01:31:39):
just not particularly interested in it. You know, the greens,
the leftists have used the environment for fifty years as
a means of advancing their political agenda, and conservatives don't
look at the environment that way, and so I'm hoping
that I've been trying to get more people interested. I'm
glad you guys want to talk to me about this.
We need to get more conservatives interesting so they can

(01:32:00):
see how the Greens are not for the environment, they're
just for fraud so that they can advance their political agenda.
I care about the environment. I don't care about environmentalists
because they're not really for the environment, they're for communism.
So let's get back to where the environment. Environmental protection
is for the sake of the environment we have. It's
not nineteen seventy anymore when EPA was formed. It's twenty

(01:32:24):
twenty five, and every state has an environmental protection agency,
quite competent one, and it's in fact, it's where the
vast majority of real environmental protection is done in the States.
EPA has just become this massive overregulation machine and that
needs to end.

Speaker 3 (01:32:40):
So my final question to you is Trump said get
rid of the Department of Education because it's better done
in the states under their own educational folks in each state.
Why not do the same thing with the EPA. Why
isn't that Lee Seldon's directive is just get rid of it?

(01:33:00):
And let's put it back in the States.

Speaker 9 (01:33:02):
Well, don't be too sure, it's not. The Richard Nickson
form the executive the EPA by executive Order in December
nineteen seventy. All all he did was consolidate all the
environmental functions that were done across the federal government into
one agency. President Trump could just as easily reassign those
duties to other federal agencies and get rid of the EPA.

(01:33:24):
I think what's important from a congressional point of view
is that the functions get done, not where they're done. EPA, unfortunately,
has been one of these agencies that's been able to
amass tremendous power. You know, if you're if you're a
company and you've got a problem with EPA, you may win.
Let's say it's an air issue. You may win on
that area issue. But then EPA is not going to forget.

(01:33:46):
They're going to get back at you on whatever water
issue you may have or waste issue. You know, EPA
is a very vengeful I mean, it's a leftist agency
has been hijacked by the left. They use it to
advance their agenda. They don't use it to protect the
ind They use it against people, and conservatives really haven't
dialed into that yet. You know, I've been trying to

(01:34:07):
educate people, but it's difficult.

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Speaker 9 (01:37:49):
That's great to hear, Steve.

Speaker 4 (01:37:51):
The President said the other day when he met with
Benjamin Netta, who we have more energy than any country
in the world. We have more of every kind of energy,
every form of energy, from oil and gas to coal
to nuclear. And Steve, you served, you served on as
I mentioned, his first transition team. Why wasn't this done

(01:38:12):
during his first administration? Or are you seeing a difference
in this administration, the second Trump administration versus the first.

Speaker 9 (01:38:21):
Well, we tried to do it. I just think that
there was a lot of a lot more naivete in
the first administration. We tried to do things the conventional way.
We had a traditional transition team. We we we just
thought that, you know, things could be done normally. But
of course, as we saw for those four years, that

(01:38:42):
was not possible. There was actually a resistance in the agency.
The bureaucrats fancied themselves like they were the French resistance
or something, and they actively sabotaged everything that the Trump
administration tried to do. And this time I are wide
open and they're not getting the chance to do that.

(01:39:03):
As a matter of fact, they're lucky to hold on
to their jobs. So we're being a little bit more aggressive,
which is great, but you know, for some of the
stuff we're still you know, it's one thing to deport
people that should not be here. It's another thing to
change rules that, you know, people think are backed up
by science, even Supreme Court justices. So it's it's a

(01:39:26):
it's a very challenging thing. As I mentioned earlier, Republicans
conservatives tend not to really understand anything about the environment.
I'm not particularly interested in it myself, except I've been
doing it for the last thirty four years. So and
what's kept me interested in it is it's been fascinated
by the lying that's you know, hence junk science dot com.
Other people aren't so interesting and don't understand it. So,

(01:39:51):
you know, I have my work cut out for me
to try to educate people about this. But fortunately President
Trump has got it. You know, he understands climate is
a hoax, for example, and he has told everyone in
the administration that you know, warn climate is the climate
hope is over and Warren Cole is over all, but
now we have to implement that.

Speaker 6 (01:40:10):
Steve, you mentioned resistance.

Speaker 4 (01:40:13):
That park sparked my interest because a few about a
month or so ago, we ran a video I'm not
sure if it was James U. Keith Media or if
it was Project Veritas, where a level fourteen employee in
the federal government and forgetting which agency he worked for,
and there's only fifteen levels. He was at fourteen and
what he says, we don't care who's number fifteen. We're

(01:40:35):
going to do what we want from fourteen below.

Speaker 6 (01:40:38):
He says a lot of.

Speaker 4 (01:40:39):
Times we just we just not and do whatever we
want to do. Anyway, you mentioned EPA, You mentioned Lee Zelden.
I'm still real concerned Steve about the deep Swamp. Yeah,
that's within the EPA, that if the level fourteen's and
below are going to be able to do what number
fifteen that ahead of the EPA, Lee Seldon wants to do.

Speaker 9 (01:41:03):
Yeah, yeah, No, I'm concerned too, and I think everybody
is concerned.

Speaker 8 (01:41:09):
You know.

Speaker 9 (01:41:09):
The good news is that at this time everybody understands
that I don't think EPA staff, the bureaucrats are going
to be allowed to drive the agenda like they did
during Trump one, or they're not going to be allowed
to sabotage the agenda. I think a lot of their
work is going to be taken away from them, especially
all this important regulatory reform, the regulatory work that will

(01:41:32):
just be taken away from them and done by others.
And I think that lee Zelden has sent him he
wants to get rid of like you know, or you know,
cut the budget at EPA by seventy percent or so,
which means get rid of a lot of people. So
there are big changes. Of course, there's going to be
litigation about all this. You know, we don't know how

(01:41:53):
it's going to work out. One of the big things
we have sort of militating against, you know, the reforms
we want, is that even when you get if you
can find conservative judges, they really don't understand the environment
at all.

Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
You know, they don't understand the law, the constitution. That's
frustrating to me.

Speaker 9 (01:42:10):
No, that's exactly it. They don't understand the law and
its practical implications. And they're not going to understand the
science anytime soon. Either as a matter of fact, in
the federal court, you cannot argue science. The judges have
a special agreement where they will they have been deferring
to the agencies. Even though we got rid of that
Chevron doctrine that forced courts to defer to agencies, they

(01:42:35):
still have this sort of private agreement among judges that
they don't want to second guess science or litigate litigate
agency science, and that has been a real problem.

Speaker 4 (01:42:46):
Steve, you just do talk with lee Zeldon or have
you talked with him?

Speaker 6 (01:42:50):
I have?

Speaker 4 (01:42:51):
Okay, I got a message I want you to deliver
to them. I'm serious about this. I'm serious as a
heart attack when I say this. If lee Zelden wants
to cut the size of the EPA, what he should
do is move it to Noma, Alaska and tell those
people they're expected to show up for work. I don't

(01:43:13):
know if anybody who wants to live in windshall of
one hundred and fifty one degrees below zero, I bet
a lot of those people will decide on a career change.

Speaker 6 (01:43:21):
I'm serious, Steve.

Speaker 9 (01:43:22):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:43:22):
No, as you said, there's going to be lawsuits. We
saw these lawsuits.

Speaker 4 (01:43:26):
Already when they said well, you can't fire these people.

Speaker 6 (01:43:30):
You know there's going to be more of them. But
I make it, I'm serious.

Speaker 4 (01:43:34):
Send that department and a lot of others. Send them
to nom Alaska and say that's where your new job is.

Speaker 9 (01:43:40):
Well, and I think President Trump has actually talked about it.
If maybe he's only a joke, I don't know.

Speaker 6 (01:43:45):
I saw well he mentioned Kansas. Who was it?

Speaker 4 (01:43:50):
Book Distordin will mention Kansas. I want them to go father,
wait West, I'm serious. Let's put them on the shores
of the Bald the Bearing Sea.

Speaker 9 (01:43:59):
I believe they sent the Bureau of Land Management, which
is a Department of Interior, to either Colorado or Wyoming.
I can't remember, but I mean, you're absolutely right. I
mean they should the Trump The bureaucrats are at war
with the Trump administration, and unfortunately Trump administrations is gonna
have to be a war with them. And if they
can't fire him, then they got to ship him out.
I saw Lee Zeldon yesterday. I think he was advertising

(01:44:20):
like seven floors worth of office space in the Ronald
Reagan Building, which is where EPA is located. So they
must be getting rid of somebody. I think a lot
of people have taken these voluntary buyouts, but there's a
lot more people they got to go. That said, we
still need to get this work done. So yeah, we
need One part of his job is getting rid of
these people. The other half is getting getting work done.

Speaker 6 (01:44:41):
Let's talk about getting the work done.

Speaker 4 (01:44:43):
As you said with Sharon earlier, you got the facts,
the figures in the proof behind you, and that we
must fight Steeve, I really do believe that this is
a PR problem that Republicans have. PR don't know, Republicans
don't know how to fight a PR problem. And I
think what we've got to do is we've got to

(01:45:03):
capture the hearts, the minds, and also the pocket book
of the American people.

Speaker 6 (01:45:08):
And let me show you where I think we can
benefit from this.

Speaker 4 (01:45:13):
In the garbage state of New Jersey, the garbage state
of New Jersey, there was a power plant called Beasley's
Point and it was just on the other side of
the of the acarpor River from Somers Point, New Jersey,
little place called Kennedy Park where the wife and I
like to grab a pizza, go down and have a
pizza picnic there. Beasley's Point was a cold, flowery Pigher

(01:45:38):
power Plant. We would picnic virtually in the shadow of
the cooling tower, and the only thing that we would
see coming out of that cooling tower was what are vapor?

Speaker 9 (01:45:50):
You know?

Speaker 4 (01:45:51):
However, the governor of New Jersey, not just the present one,
but the past one too, Chris Christy and then Film Murphy.

Speaker 6 (01:46:00):
What they said was, we're going to tear down.

Speaker 4 (01:46:03):
The Beasley's Point power Plant, and we're going to close
the Oyster Creek Nuclear power Plant, and we're not going
to permit Siale and Nuclear power Plant from expanding.

Speaker 6 (01:46:14):
Now, oh, we're gonna go win. We're going to go solar.

Speaker 4 (01:46:18):
So now what happens, Steve, It's New Jersey is short
forty on energy.

Speaker 6 (01:46:25):
And we have to buy it from outer state, out
of state.

Speaker 4 (01:46:29):
The energy costs have gone from about fifteen cents to
kill a lot hour to like thirty cents of kill
a ot hour, and people in New Jersey are starting
to notice, and they're going to notice when there's another increases. June.

Speaker 6 (01:46:44):
I think that's part of what we got to part
of the pr fight.

Speaker 4 (01:46:49):
We've got to fight letting people know not just the
lies that are coming from the left, but how it's
going to affect them, and nothing affects people more than
the pocobook.

Speaker 6 (01:47:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 9 (01:47:02):
Well, look there, you know we've been live to you
for decades by all this green stuff. You know, we
were told that wind and solar we're going to make
things cheaper and cleaner, and things haven't changed. It's just
more expensive. We have we have that problem, and I think,
you know, there's been some realization of that. You know,
the the inflation we saw during the Bide administration was
caused by the war on fossil fuels. I think that

(01:47:25):
you know, that affected voters. But there's just a lot
more that needs to be done. And you know, too
often Republicans spend their time talking about President Trump does
sometimes talks about we wants clean air, clean water, and
of course all that's true, but we already had that.
We we have that, we've had that for a very
long time. That's not really where we are now. We

(01:47:46):
have you know, E p U S E p A
and especially state epas like New Jersey, California and New
York Maryland where I live. They're all like Junior U
S E pas and just as crazy, and they're harming
our standard of living. They're not doing anything for the environment.
You know, there is easy to scare Republican politicians into

(01:48:10):
doing what they want because Republican politicians don't know the
first thing about the environment. This has been true of
every every Republican president until Donald Trump. It's true of
most Republicans in Congress now and in the Senate. And
we just got our work cut out for us. I'm sorry,
I mean what we have going for us as President Trump,

(01:48:31):
who knows what the right answer is. We just you know,
we need to spread the word. He needs to lean
on people to make an effort to understand.

Speaker 6 (01:48:39):
Steve Lloyd John Science dot com. Steve, I apologize.

Speaker 4 (01:48:42):
I noticed we've taken the taken you a little bit
beyond what we promise, but we really do appreciate your
joining us.

Speaker 6 (01:48:49):
This is a huge, huge issue.

Speaker 4 (01:48:51):
And as I said, when President Trump said yesterday, we're
ending this war and call, I wanted to get you on.

Speaker 6 (01:48:57):
But Steve, please tell our audience how they could follow.

Speaker 4 (01:49:00):
You, how they could read the things you write, how
they can find out more about junk size dot com.

Speaker 9 (01:49:05):
Okay, well yeah, ricking Sharon, thanks for having me. My
website is junk science dot com. I do an awful
lot of work on X at Junk Science, and I'm
soon going to be a regular columnist with the Daily
Caller as well.

Speaker 4 (01:49:20):
So wonderful we got to have you on, especially when
you start the columns. We'll have you come on to
talk about your columns and your issues. Hey see, thank
you so much for joining us. And remember get that
message to lee Zelda. It's no Alaska or bust.

Speaker 6 (01:49:36):
I will all right.

Speaker 4 (01:49:37):
Thank yous to you, take care of God bless you
and you are listening to and watching the Conservative Commandos
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Speaker 6 (01:49:43):
I'm Rick Trader.

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And welcome back to the Conservative Commandos Again, we really
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We hope you're spending with family and friends or whatever
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Speaker 8 (01:51:37):
Like Mary and I.

Speaker 4 (01:51:38):
It's just Mary and I. Today we're invited to a
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Speaker 6 (01:51:51):
Oh, Sharon a two minute any time? What do you
got for his kid?

Speaker 3 (01:51:55):
Well? No tax on tips?

Speaker 4 (01:51:57):
No, I love it.

Speaker 6 (01:51:59):
I love it.

Speaker 4 (01:51:59):
That's over there a little bit. No tax on tips,
no tax on security. You know, I love the promises
that President Trump made.

Speaker 6 (01:52:10):
And you know what, Yeah, and you know, he is proven.

Speaker 4 (01:52:15):
He's proven that he is governing the way he campaigned.
All right, He's kept his word on so many things.
Very few politicians are like that. But maybe it's because
Donald Trump isn't really a politician per se. He's a
businessman that he's he's governing on the things he campaign on.

(01:52:38):
No tax on tips, no tax on social security.

Speaker 3 (01:52:42):
Well, and I think, especially in a state like mine,
where there's so many people that tips are at least
half of their wages, so there's no taxing their tips,
has really become a good thing in Nevada. And yet

(01:53:03):
there are there are states that are rejecting it. It's
just like we talked in the last segment about people
not wanting to get rid of temporary agencies. They want
those to just have a life of their own. Go
on and on and on. Well that's the way with
taxes too. And so Colorado has rejected the idea of

(01:53:28):
no tax on overtime pay.

Speaker 6 (01:53:30):
So how can they do that.

Speaker 4 (01:53:32):
It's a federal tax. It's not a state tax. It's
a federal tax. Now, if Colorado wants the tax taps,
if they have an income tax, I don't know about
what Colorado's taxing.

Speaker 3 (01:53:44):
So what they're going to do. What they're going to do,
it says is that taxpayers must report the amount deducted
federally and add it back for state purposes.

Speaker 4 (01:53:55):
Well good, and I hope that people in Colorado revolt
tact these democrats out of that state.

Speaker 3 (01:54:05):
They should scream, how about your bloody murder? That's right,
how about New York. We'll continue you taxing tips and
overtime pay by adding new codes for ad back of
examp tax, tip income, and ad back for example overtime pay.
So it's it's an ad back on your New York

(01:54:27):
income tax. You got to add back.

Speaker 6 (01:54:29):
Good.

Speaker 12 (01:54:30):
I'm glad to hear this. I hope they do it
in every blue state, and I hope the people revolt.
I hope the people say, you know what, I've had
it with these Democrats. I'm not going to vote for
these Democrats anywhere because here we're getting a break. No
tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax

(01:54:51):
on overtime, and yet these vultures from the state are
taking it. I hope they I hope they screen bloody murder.
I really hope they do.

Speaker 4 (01:55:02):
You know what's another good reason why to get out
of the blue.

Speaker 3 (01:55:05):
State, Well, Illinois, Illinois, it's going to do the same
thing with this ad back thing. And Maine is another
one that they're they're going so far as to say,
we're not you know, we're not going to give the
seniors that that deduction. Uh, They're going to pay tax.

(01:55:27):
And I think that's the ugliest part of taxing social
Security is it's already been taxed once. It was it
was taxed when you earned it, and it wasn't itself
a tax, and so now we're going to tax it again.

Speaker 4 (01:55:44):
Well, you know, we talked about we talked about Social
Security being the third railway.

Speaker 6 (01:55:50):
Here you go.

Speaker 4 (01:55:51):
Here you got Democrats that are are hurting senior citizens.
Here you got Democrats that are not allowing sea new
citizens to have this tax break.

Speaker 6 (01:56:02):
Again.

Speaker 4 (01:56:03):
I hope these senior citizens in these blues states understand
how they're being screwed by their government, how they're being
screwed by the Democrat Party, and say, you know what,
we've had enough of these vicious, ugly people and they
really don't care about senior citizens.

Speaker 3 (01:56:22):
Well, that's true, and Washington DC not going to do it,
not going to give those tax breaks. So it's it's
one of those things where you know, I think we
should start reminding people that it's in these tax tax
me more states.

Speaker 6 (01:56:44):
Here you go, California, you're in there.

Speaker 4 (01:56:46):
I'm sure Instram is going to do the same thing.

Speaker 3 (01:56:50):
I'm sure they haven't. They haven't stated it publicly yet,
but I'm sure they will because their whole reason these
these people are saying we're not going to do this,
we're going to collect these back or add these back,
is because they're afraid they're not going to have enough
taxes to run their state. What that really means is

(01:57:14):
is they're not willing to do what they need to
do to make the state run smoothly without more taxes.
They are not ready to cut spending. They're not ready
to cut programs and departments that just don't work anymore.

(01:57:38):
And that's what Trump has been calling for all along.
That's like Joe shut down. That's why he wants a
Department of Education to be shut down. That's why he's saying,
no tax on tips, no tax on your Social Security.
Come on this, it's time for government to get lean

(01:57:58):
doing this.

Speaker 4 (01:57:59):
You know why they're doing this, Sharon, to stop some
of the major planks in the platform that Donald Trump
run on. That's why they're doing it. To screw Donald Trump.

Speaker 6 (01:58:13):
Well, going to screw the Republican agenda.

Speaker 4 (01:58:16):
I think they are too. I think they are too,
Sharon Listen. I wanted to thank you for sitting in
today as my co host, and again, Sharon, I wish
you and Ted and your family of nineteen then that
are there for Thanksgiving a wonderful, wonderful holiday. And again

(01:58:37):
I want to thank our viewers and listeners for tuning
into the conservative commandos on today, Thanksgiving Day, twenty twenty five.
I want to thank Jerome Corsi for the interview that
he did with us, but for right now, we are
out of time.

Speaker 6 (01:58:53):
It means we got to run, we got to go.
Take care. God bless and we'll see you tomorrow on
TV and radio.
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