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8-26-25  Conservative Commandos:  Trump wants to punish people for flag burning!!
President Trump signed an executive order Monday that seeks to punish people who burn the American flag, accusing those who do so of displaying hostility and contempt toward the United States.
Mr. Trump has for years threatened to crack down on flag burning. In 2016, he wrote on social media that anyone who burns the American flag should lose their citizenship or face jail time. During a 2024 speech before the National Guard Association of the United States, then-candidate Trump said he would work to pass a law imposing criminal penalties on those who burn the American flag.
In remarks from the Oval Office on Monday, Mr. Trump alleged that burning the American flag "incites riots" and said those who are prosecuted and convicted as a result of his directive would face one year in prison.  "The people in this country don't want to see our American flag burned and spit on," the president said.
Trump's executive order on flag burning
Titled "Prosecuting Burning of the American Flag," Mr. Trump's executive order does not direct the attorney general to prosecute those who burn flags for the act itself. Rather, it says the Justice Department should bring cases "against acts of American Flag desecration that violate applicable, content-neutral laws, while causing harm unrelated to expression, consistent with the First Amendment." Examples of those laws include "violent crimes; hate crimes, illegal discrimination against American citizens, or other violations of Americans' civil rights; and crimes against property and the peace."
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow Patriots, Welcome, fellow Plora Bulls,
Welcome all you drinks, the Society of Rock Towellers. You're
sick of fens and stinkers. You make a Nazis. No
matter what they call you, you always need to know you're
always welcome here. And this is the Conservative Commander's Radio Show.
And I'm Rick Trader, coming to you from the my

(00:41):
Pillar Studios and my Sture Studios of the AU and
TV Network. And joining me today as my co host
is Sharon Angele, the patriot from the battleground state, the
Ballotbourne State, the Silver State of Noveda. And Sharon, welcome back,
Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (01:01):
Thank you, Rick. It's always fun for me to hear
you talk about my patriotism in Nevada, battle born state,
Silver State. Those are patriotic things that kind of get
our little hearts moving toward our state and how to
serve our state better and just be better citizens. But

(01:24):
one of the you know, that just reminds me that
Donald Trump signed a new EXA.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Before you go any father, let me just say this.
You know what amazes me about the Western states, now,
the Western states like Nevada and California and Oregon and Washington, Colorado.
We're settled by hardworking people, I mean really hard working people,

(01:49):
people that worked and strived and suffered and sweated and
suffered from muscle aches and all that. And yet today
they're liberal. Yeah, they're liberal. I mean, you would think
that the the heirrors that came out of such hard
working ancestry would think a little different, wouldn't you. Same

(02:14):
thing with Massachusetts in Connecticut, you know, the the birthplace
of country, right right right, I mean, Massachusetts is where
the American Revolution started. In my gosh, you know, it's
one of the most liberal places on the face of
the earth. You know, there's not a single a single

(02:35):
Republican congressional representative from the state of Massachusetts. And these
people created a country on limited government or limiting government,
on limiting taxation or no taxation. And look what to
look at today. I mean it's anyway.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
Oh look at it today.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
That's my little thing.

Speaker 2 (02:59):
That's where I kind of wanted to go because the
Lates executive order, the latest executive order of President Trump,
has to do with not desecrating the flag.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
Right.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
It says that there are laws against flag burning, and
he has now told the Attorney General Pambondi he wants
her to prosecute those cases that when people desecrate the flag,
it is a violation of these laws, and he wants

(03:33):
her to go after them. I think that's a great idea.
I think that it's time that we tell protesters there's
a limit, right, there's just a limit to the anti
American targeting that they can do. They you know, they

(03:55):
burn the American flag in anti Israel rallies, they burn
the American flag flag an anti ice protests. They they
think that somehow the shock value of burning our flag
will draw people to them.

Speaker 1 (04:12):
You're triggering me, sharing, you're triggering me because if you've
burned a rainbow flag, guess what, You're going to be
up for hate crime. You're going to be up for
hate crime if you've burned the rainbow flag. But you
can burn the American flag, no problem with that.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Well, and now they're they're talking about how the right right,
this this move by President Trump has given rare conservative backlash.
That's what they're talking about, rare conservative backlash. So I'm thinking, okay,

(04:52):
what conservatives jumped on board and said it's okay to
burn the American flag. Well, I don't know these guys.
Colin Wright, an evolutionary biologist, wrote an article saying banning
the flag burning is absurd, its anti free speech and
peak snowflake behavior. I would never burn the American flag

(05:17):
because of what it symbolizes to me, but the act
of banning and burning of it runs contrary to American values.
I thought, who is this guy, Colin Wright, evolutionary biologist.
I've never heard of him as a leader of the
conservative movement. How about radio host Jesse Keilly, who opposed

(05:40):
the order, saying I would never in a million years
harm the American flag, but a president telling me I
can't as me as close as I've ever been to
lighting one on fire. Another radio host, Dana Loche added,
flag burning is wild, but the government has no right
to control speech or expression.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
I hear, isn't it, Arson?

Speaker 2 (06:06):
Well, your laws to burn the flag? So here, now
we're starting to get into some maybe conservative commentator Eric
Erickson said this is actually not brilliant. Well, I agree
with the sentiments, unfortunately well settled constitutional law that burning
the flag is a matter of free speech and the

(06:29):
executive does not have the right, does not get to
create crimes. Red State writer Bonchie said, I know nothing
matter matters, and you aren't allowed to criticize your own side,
But I'd like to return to a time when presidents
didn't sign on constitutional executive orders. And then Kimberly Bross

(06:53):
at the Washington Examiners said, I don't think the federal
government should take equity stakes and companies. The First Amendment
protection applies to the burning of the flag, as much
as I abhor that action. And then it just goes
on some podcasters. Let's see, I was trying to think

(07:18):
of there was anybody that I really respected on the
conservative side that was protesting this order of Trump's to
enforce the law. The flag burning is against the law. Simple,
it's against the law. May not be in the constitution,

(07:39):
but they're going a little further to say that the
constitution protects flag burning. I don't think it does. It's
against the law.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
So charity, you know, it's sometimes you die on the series,
all right now. I think a lot of these people
are dying on a theory. Just checked out something burning
the rainbow flag. Burning the rainbow flag is an act
of flag desecration. Often used as a political protest or

(08:12):
symbolic insult against LGBTQ rights or the people associated with
the movement. This act has occurred at various protests, such
as during Independence Day marches in Warsaw, were Polish nationalists
trampled and spat on and burned the flag. I mean, Sharon,

(08:35):
I've said this before, and in particular when talking about
the national anthem. Do you remember all the people that
were kneeling at the national anthem, disrespecting international anthem? I
said at that time, you would think there's many, many,
many differences in our country today, but you would think
the one place that we could get together is that

(08:58):
our national anthem is that our flag, our patriotism, right right,
let's you let's at least unify that and then we
can go our separate ways and have our differences and
stuff like that. There you go. Groups of teens face

(09:21):
hate crimes charges for flag vandalism. A group of group
of kids that burned ay a rainbow flag, they're up
there facing hate crime charges. Get that. Atlanta police charge
four g teens with hate crimes for vandalizing pride flags.

(09:45):
All right, it's ridiculous. Fourteens from outside Atlanta face multiple
charges for vandalizing Pride flags in Midtown, including obstruction, criminal
damage to property, conspiracy. See I mean this is for
burning a gay flag, which is nothing more than a

(10:09):
beach towel. All right. You know the one thing that
I really hate about the LGBTQ movement is state taken
such a beautiful symbol and made it evil in my opinion,
In my opinion, you know, It's it's funny whenever I
see anything these days that is a multi colored like

(10:31):
a T shirt or anything, I have to question, well,
is this people saying that they're supporting the gay movement.
But you know, the other day Mary and I went
for a drive and we ended up in this little town.
I love it. It's called Titusville. It's right on the Delaware River,

(10:52):
just north of Washington Crossing State Park outside of Trenton,
New Jersey. Based me that some people were flying the
American flag, more people were flying the gay flag. And
those people have these signs welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome. You
know what I would love to do is Sharon, and

(11:13):
then one day to get your opinion on us. You know,
here goes another one of my diabolical ideas. All right,
how about if we published the addresses of all the
people that have these welcome signs and creative website, we
welcome illegal immigrants here. Let's post the addresses of all

(11:36):
these people that have all these signs. Hate has no
home here. Everyone is welcome here. Let's see how they
like it. Someone shows up to the door and say, look,
I'm moving in. Another diabolical idea right here.

Speaker 2 (11:52):
The diabolical idea, well, it smacks at the doc singe
that was going on for patriot to payots aimed at
patriots who supported, for instance, the legal definition of marriage.
Remember that in California they were burning crosses on their

(12:17):
lawns and publishing their names and addresses so that people
could find them to do that kind of damage to
their property. That's what you're talking about, that we don't
do it that way. We allow these things and even

(12:38):
allow the breaking of the law, which is what the
President is saying. He says, Article US Code seven hundred,
Desecration of the Flag of the United States and its penalties.
I'll just read that law. Whoever knowingly mutilates the faces,
physically defiles, burns, maintains on the grand floor, or or

(13:00):
tramples upon. Any flag of the United States shall be
fined under this title or imprisoned for more than one year,
or both. This subsection does not prohibit any conduct consisting
of the disposal of the flag when it's become worn
or soiled, because as we know, when you have a

(13:21):
flag that's torn, worn, soiled, it the right way to
this to get rid of it is to burn it.
You don't throw it in the trash. It also says,
as used of this section, the term flag of the
United States means any flag of the United States or
any part thereof, made of any substance or any size,

(13:44):
in a form that is commonly displayed. Nothing in this
section shall be constructed as indicating an intent on the
part of Congress to deprive any state, territory, possession, or
Commonwealth of Puerto Rico of jurisdiction over any fence over
which it would have jurisdiction. In the absence of this section,

(14:05):
an appeal may be taken directly to the Supreme Court
for any interlocative or final judgment, decree, or violation of
this sub section. And that's what it says. So I
know you have to be very careful about how you
wear the flag. If you're wearing a part of the

(14:25):
flag on your person, you need to be very careful
that you're respectful of what you're doing there, that you
don't take that flag in a disrespectful place. So this
is the law. It says whoever knowingly mutilates to faces,
physically defiles, burns, or maintains on the floor of the ground,

(14:47):
or tramples upon the flag. So there's a lot here
that says this is wrong. This is wrong. And for
these guys to stand up and say it's part of
our free speech, this is where the law says this
doesn't apply. This is not free speech when you do

(15:10):
this knowingly to the flag. And that's all our president
is doing, is just standing up for a law of
the land, for the symbol of our country. I wonder how,
you know, say, any other country would react to the

(15:32):
burning of their flag. And like you said, we have
a flag that we can't burn, not because it's a
symbol of our country. It just may offend somebody if
you burn that flag.

Speaker 1 (15:46):
Charman, we need to take a break. But on the
other side of the break, I'm going to give some examples,
some examples of what can happen to you if you
burn the gay flag. And this is the serve the
Commander's radio show. I'm Rick Trader, my cos she's Sharon Angle.
We're coming to you from the Mipilo studios, the Mysturist

(16:07):
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protected by the second. Go nowhere, Sharon, I'll be right back.

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(21:25):
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(21:45):
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(22:07):
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just before we went through the break, I talked about burning.
What could possibly happen to you if you burn the

(25:46):
gay flag? Well, let me tell you what happened to
one particular person. Adolpho Martinez, admitted to the media that
he took the flag from the Ames United Church of
Christ due to its it's due to his animosity towards somesexuals.

(26:07):
He was found guilty last month of a hate crime harassment.
All right, you know what he got fifteen years in jail.
Fifteen years in jail. This a man that took a
gay pride flag down from a church, ripped down the

(26:28):
flag and burnt it. What did he get fifteen years
in jail as a hate crime? No, okay, he did
destroy property. He did destroy private property, But does that
deserve a fifteen year prison sentence?

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Well, if they were using the desecration of the flag law,
trying to make that a part of the desecration of
the flag law. It would have only been a year
you're in prison and a fine. That's what the American
flag penalty is. Because they put it over into the

(27:08):
hate crime area, they were able to get it a
more stringent, a stronger penalty.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
Isn't American flag I was gonna say the exact same thing.

Speaker 2 (27:23):
Isn't that a hate crime?

Speaker 1 (27:26):
What else is on your radar screen? Kid?

Speaker 2 (27:28):
Well, there's a group called change dot org. They have
a petition that's got two point eight million signatures urging
Florida Governor Ronda Santis and the Florida Board of Executive
Clemency to reconsider a fellow Hard Ginger Hard gender Sing,

(27:54):
a twenty eight year old Allele Alien truck driver accused
of vehicular homicide. Is what he was accused of, and
he tempted an illegal U turn in a semi truck
using a trailer to jackknife and strike a mini van,

(28:14):
resulting in the death of all three occupants.

Speaker 1 (28:18):
Okay, so this is guy who came to this country illegally,
who couldn't speak or read English, who got a driver's
license in California got a commercial driver's license, was hired
by a company from what I understand, hires illegals obviously

(28:43):
did not train this guy, all right. But what really
upsets me when this guy was making this illegal U
turn in the middle of the road, and in the
video you can.

Speaker 2 (28:57):
See the suv.

Speaker 1 (29:00):
Under the trailer part of it, you actually see it plowing.
The man was emotionless. I mean, if if I was
in the truck and something like that, I would be horrified.
This guy no emotion at all, Sharon that this car

(29:23):
just ran and he's just all right, it's another day.
So this guy in this country illegally made an illegal turn,
should not have had a driver's lace. She should not
have had a commercial driver's lacense to boot, all right.
And his expression to me was absolutely amazing, like no

(29:49):
big deal. That's what really upset me. Now, what I
think is if another driver, a licensed American driver, if
they did the same thing, would they be charged with
vehicular homicide? All right, But three and a half million

(30:12):
people to sign this petition for the governor to go
easily on this guy, this guy should, in my opinion,
spend the rest of his life in jail, and by
the way, not in this country. Let's send him to
Costa Rica, a Costa Rican jail or Ugande in jail.
I don't like the idea of these criminals who are

(30:35):
in this country illegally serving getting three hots and a
cot in an American jail. It really angered me when
these tourists were down in git moll And they were
given prayer, rugs and meals fitting of their culture, and

(30:56):
cable TV and free self owns and soccer fields that
looks like a professional team played on. I think I
think jail should be punishment. They're probably living in better
conditions than they ever lived in the tent back home.

(31:17):
All right, So this guy, in my opinion, should be
treated like any other person who's charged with the Hickler homicide.
He committed, He committed a crime. He committed a crime
by entering this country illegally. I think there were crimes
committed when he got a license, When he got a

(31:39):
commercial driver's license from a company who I think should
be investigated forever hiring this guy, forever helping this guy
get a license. He killed three people. Sharing he killed
three people because of his negligence.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
Well, not only that, but how does any illegal How
does an illegal get a driver's license in California, get
a commercial driver's license in California, get a job with
a company to drive truck? Those things right there are

(32:21):
it's illegal all of that. If you're illegal, you should
be deported. You should be arrested and deported. But no,
instead of an arrest for being here illegally, they give
him not only a driver's license, but they give it
to him when he can't even read English. They give

(32:44):
it to him when he can't obey the road signs
on the test. So all of this just smacks of
this liberalism gone mad. They say it wasn't a deliberate act.
That's the that's the reason that there should be leniency,
and he shouldn't get this horrible forty five years in prison.

(33:06):
That's what he's been sentenced to. Fifteen years for killing
a person. Three times three deaths hit forty five years.
They say it's just too much because it wasn't intentional.
The man grabbed up a person, I believe, a lady,

(33:28):
and they flee the day after the cringish I believe
they If they didn't, if he didn't think he'd done
something wrong, why does he run away Guess where he
ran to. Guess where he ran to commits this crime in.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
Florida.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
He runs to California. They have to extradite him back
to back to Florida to face trial because a judge
did deny in bond. Finally, because they side in him
as a significant flight rig risk. Guess what he already ran.

(34:11):
That's kind of a no brainer, right, of course, he
is a flight rigs risk. He's from India. I think
he should go home to India and that India should
take care of this fellow in their prison. That's where
he belongs. He's he is illegal from India. Go back

(34:36):
to Punjab, India. And why don't they want him to
do that? That should have been there Their appeal right,
send him back to India where his family is. That's
what they're crying about here, is that he's only twenty
eight years old. Imagine what this is going to do
to his family. They're not thinking of his family condition

(35:00):
in terms of missing their son, or their grandson or
their nephew. They're thinking out the money that he was
going to send home.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
Oh wonderful, isn't that wonderful? Let's let's reward them. Oh wonderful.

Speaker 2 (35:19):
Think of what it's going to do to his family. Well,
what is it if if it's his family wants to
see him, they should send him home to India to
complete his sentence. Well we don't do that, do we.
At least he's in jail, at least he's he's serving

(35:43):
his time.

Speaker 1 (35:46):
Well, you should not. You should not reward him or
his family. You know what, Sharon, anyone who commits a crime,
I don't care if it's right or whatever. They have
to pay the penalty her, regardless of how it's going
to effect their families. He should have thought about that.

(36:10):
He should have thought about that way ahead of time. Sharon.

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, and here's what they want, not the forty five
years the vehicular homicide brings as a punishment. They want
him to be sentenced to counseling and wonderful and community service.

Speaker 1 (36:34):
Oh wonderful.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
So we're talking about a fellow who's a criminal, a criminal,
and they want him to get counseling and community service
for killing three people in this country. We need we

(36:57):
need justice now, Senator, I mean Secretary of State Marco Rubio.
He says that endangering lives and undercutting the livelihoods of
American truck drivers is one of the things that they

(37:20):
should have taken into account when they issue illegal foreign
commercial truck drivers these licenses and work visas. So he
didn't even have a work visa, but they issued him
a commercial driver's license, and they shouldn't have done that

(37:43):
just on the pure moral statement of endangering American lives
and the livelihoods of American truck drivers. How many truck
drivers do we have in this country. They should be
following a counter petition how wrong this was to give

(38:04):
an illegal alien a commercial driver's license in the first place,
not to mention that he was he's deadly. He didn't
know how to drive that truck and he killed three people.
That's the definition of vehicular homicide is when something happens

(38:28):
due to your own negligence. It's the same thing if
you were driving drunk, it's the same thing. If you
were driving under the influence of any kind of narcotics
or or drugs. You know, it's that, That's what it is.
This is negligence on the part of the driver. He
didn't know how to drive that a vehicle, and he

(38:51):
didn't know the traffic laws, and that's what caused this accident,
and that is a matter of fact that came up
in court. So to say he should get leniency, and
they're saying community service in this country and counseling in

(39:11):
this country. He's an legal alien.

Speaker 1 (39:14):
He should be incredible, Sharon. Let's get a break in
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Speaker 1 (43:09):
And Welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
Sharon Angle. I'mrick Trader, coming to you from the Mike
Pela Studios and my store studios of the au n
TV network, and Sharon, I want to give a program
note here and after this segment, we're going to be
playing some of the best of interviews here on Conservative Commandos,

(43:31):
and so don't go away. After this segment, we'll play
those interviews for you. Back to you.

Speaker 2 (43:38):
Sharon, Well, you know we've wondered who's going to get
prosecuted and who's going to be held accountable for their
their actions in the Biden regime during that time, and
a representative from Texas, Brandon gill is calling for Vice

(44:04):
President President I mean Vice President Kamala Harris to be
subpoena as part of the House Oversight Committee's investigation into
President Joe Biden's cognitive decline. I think what he wants
to do is expose how the cover up that was

(44:24):
happening during the Biden administration. And he says he didn't
think Kamala Harris is innocent in this. That he's saying
that her testimony would be incredibly helpful to unravel the
autopin portion of the investigation. So he's starting to drag.

(44:45):
He's starting to say, let's bring the rest of this
bunch in because everybody was covering for this president. They
knew what the problem was, and yet they were covering
it over and that Harris is as guilty as the
rest of cover up of this what they're calling the

(45:09):
cognitive decline, what we know to be a fact. I mean,
we all saw it on television. There's no doubt that
the president was having difficulty. And now they've found out
that somebody else was signing the documents using this auto pen.

(45:30):
The whole scandal is starting to unravel. So that's one
I wanted to just say, you know, finally we're getting
some light on this, and I hope that there will
be some charges made.

Speaker 1 (45:45):
And by the way, by the way, Sharon, if I
could just sayd sure, just about every time he saw
Biden do anything Kamala Harris is by his side right now.
There are some people, is his counsel, okay with saying
the other day he only met him twice, all right,

(46:05):
but Kamal Harris was there all the time, all the there,
all the time. I'm sure she saw it.

Speaker 2 (46:16):
I'm sure she did too. And that's what this representative
Gil is saying.

Speaker 1 (46:21):
By the way, Brandon, what she knows. By the way,
Brandan Gill, son in law of Dennis Desusa.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Ah, no wonder he's into revealing the truth, right.

Speaker 1 (46:35):
I love you know, you know, I love. I love
when they have congressional hearings and Brandon Gill is one
of the questionings. He's doing a great job. Freshman, freshman congressman,
just selected, you know, least November, just installed into the
office January third. He's doing a great job, doing a

(46:58):
great job.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
Well, I hope that he they'll allow the suspe subpoena.
You know, we think subpoenas. You get subpoena, you have
to go to court there. That's what a subpoena does
for you. But there are ways to wiggle out of it.
And by that I mean a judge can decide not
to honor the subpoena and say, oh, well, that's a

(47:24):
good excuse for them not showing up in court, and
they don't have They.

Speaker 1 (47:27):
Bannon ended up in jail because you wouldn't. He wouldn't
show up for a Congressional hearing when he was subpoened.
I think General Flynn, I'm no, no, no, I know
there's someone else, Navarro pena. Navarro also review to show
up when subpoena by Congress, and they ended up in jail. Yep.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
So that's the power of a subpoena. However, I know
that a judge can just say, well, the subpoena doesn't matter,
they don't need to show up in court. That's a
good excuse. So we'll see how the judge handles this subpoena.
But I think Brandon Gill is right. She needs to

(48:15):
be subpoena. She needs to be asked because she was there,
as you say, we saw her, and they could just
go from film clip, the film eclip, the film clip
showing her presence every time he spoke, every time he
had an appearance. She's there, she knew, and yet she

(48:40):
kept that to herself. The other thing that is interesting
is these loopholes in the law. And Alexandria Kasio Cortes
AOC has to declare her income, right, she has to
file a list of her assets and liabilities to be

(49:05):
a congresswoman. That's what she has to do. Well, she
has this loophole. She has and her loopholes. A guy
named Riley Roberts. She calls him her spouse when it's
in her best interest to get him perks or to

(49:29):
such as travel. He's the boyfriend. Okay, so he's her
spouse when she wants him to get travel perks and
access to different places. But when when it's for her
financial disclosure, she transfers everything over to him so that

(49:52):
her finances look wow, we can clean and uh so
Congress is not looking enter this. They're saying, wait a minute,
Wait a minute. He's either your spouse or he's not
your spouse. If he's your spouse, he gets these perks,

(50:12):
but you also have to claim his income. So anything
that you guys have together needs to be claimed on
this report. If he's not your spouse, then he can't
have these. But you can't have it both ways, which
is what she's trying to do, is have it both ways.

(50:33):
And she also you can tell she just doesn't want
to disclose what her income is because she keeps filing
for deadline extensions and then she missed those disclosure deadlines,
so she's she is deliberately trying not to read to

(51:00):
disclose what her spouse is making because.

Speaker 1 (51:06):
Except for one little thing, he's not her spouse.

Speaker 2 (51:11):
So there you have it. It's how do you get things?
How do you get to have your cake and eat
it too? AOC is practicing that right now. Indeed, this
is how you do it.

Speaker 1 (51:25):
This is how you do it, This is how you
like I say, I think everybody in character should be investigated. Well, Sharon,
let's get a break in, as I teased on it
at the start of this segment. After this break, we're
going to be playing some of the best of interviews
that we've done here on The Conservative Commanders. My co

(51:48):
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Speaker 1 (54:58):
And welcome back. Welcome back to you the Conservative Commander's
Radio Show with Sharon Engel and yours truly, Rick Trader,
coming to you from the My Pillar studios, the my
Store studios of our very own au N TV network.
And Sharon, we talk about it all the time, how
you were in Israel on October seventh, and your experience

(55:20):
is there, and your experience is getting home. And you know, Sharon,
Israel has always been talking about Israel has always been
one of our passions. And while we've got a great
new guest to pick up that conversation, and Sharon, please
make the introduction.

Speaker 2 (55:38):
That's my pleasure to introduce Rozi Blum, who is a
former advisor at the Office of Prime Minister Benjamin not
I Hugh. She is also an award winning columnist and
a senior contributing editor at JNS. She co hosted with
Ambassador Mark Regev of the DNS TV podcast Israel Undiplomatic

(56:05):
and she''s in Tel Aviv. Ruth, Welcome to the Conservative
Commando's radio show.

Speaker 3 (56:11):
Thank you, it's an honor to be here.

Speaker 2 (56:14):
Well, it's our honor to have you, Ruthie, And I
guess I want to go a little bit off script
right from the beginning and talk about something that you
mentioned off air, and that is that you heard about
the attack on Iran from the US because it was
going on at two o'clock in the morning, and so

(56:35):
I kind of want to go to that Iran attack.
That Israel it was kind of a pre emptive attack,
but it seems like they've been able to blow up
some things that they weren't supposed to blow up or
that were so secret that Iran was afraid to say, Yeah,

(56:59):
they blew it up because we're not supposed to have it.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (57:02):
And that is a nuclear weapons facility. So can you
can you give us a little insight because that's kind
of something that's that's now just now coming out that
we did that. I say we because I sow pro Israel,
but that Israel did more damage and I ran than

(57:24):
it was first supposed.

Speaker 14 (57:28):
Right, So first of all, let me just say you
certainly may say we and the reason I say that
is that Israel is on the front lines of a
war against the West, and anybody who supports Israel in
that war is part of that alliance, that Western alliance.

(57:48):
The fact that many Western allies of Israel, and I
say I maybe I should say allies in quotes, but
never mind, have have sort of been sleeping.

Speaker 3 (58:01):
On the job. Let's put it down. Let's put it delicately, Okay.

Speaker 14 (58:05):
I just want to clarify that you may say we
if you're talking about Israel. Secondly, the Israel's attack on Iran,
I think it was October twenty sixth, and it was
the middle of the night in the Middle East, but
it was a normal hour in the evening in the
United States. So reports of it that came out many

(58:27):
many Israelis were already sound asleep. I didn't happen to be,
but I had turned off the news because I was overloaded,
and actually heard about it first from my brother in
New York who phoned me and I said, oh, and
I turned on the TV and I went on social media,
et cetera. But it wasn't really a preemptive strike in

(58:50):
the following sense. Iran had attacked Israel twice directly. It's
been attacking Israel since October seventh, of course last year,
because Iran is the head of the octopus, guiding hamas
his ballah, the Huthis in Yemen, the militias in Iraq,

(59:12):
so yes, they're all Iranian attacks. But Iran directly attacked
Israel twice, once in April and again on October first,
and so this you could say, was Israel's retaliatory strike.

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Not that the.

Speaker 14 (59:29):
Language matters that much in this case, because you know,
all of this, this business of they do this and
we retaliate makes it sound as though we are on
equal moral footing, which we are not. They are immoral
and Israel is moral. I wanted to get that straight
first of all. But the reason Iran didn't want to

(59:52):
acknowledge this strike or how much damage was done in
the strike, was not because they didn't want is to
know they have nukes, you know, because they lie about that.

Speaker 3 (01:00:05):
They say their nuclear program is peaceful and everything.

Speaker 14 (01:00:08):
But mainly two reasons. There's a lot of unrest in Iran,
in the streets of Iran against the regime, and the
last thing they want to do is to add to that,
but encourage those protesters and the unrest in their own
streets by showing that maybe they're losing ground. That's one thing.

(01:00:31):
Another reason that they didn't want to acknowledge exactly what
we hit is because it makes them look weak.

Speaker 3 (01:00:38):
And they wanted because.

Speaker 14 (01:00:41):
Their first reports were, yeah, Israel fired some you know
with its air force, but hardly did anything to make
to make Israel look you know, inconsequential, and so I
would say that was the main reason they said no, no, no,
And it turns out that the Israeli Air Force did

(01:01:04):
something incredible because managed to first of all, take out
or disable Iran's air defenses. And what does that mean
aside from also hitting something that's connected to its nuclear
program and set it back. But when you went by

(01:01:25):
taking out their air defenses, that means that they're vulnerable
to attack on their nuclear facilities because they camped down
attack planes now. And so that's extremely significant, and it
would be even more so if the administration in Washington

(01:01:47):
hadn't been tying Israel's hands so severely for the whole
past year.

Speaker 2 (01:01:54):
Really, well, I'm glad that we started there because I
think everybody should be aware that HESP law is just
a puppet for Iran. So why are we even thinking
of sending our special envoice to Beirut because Lebanon has

(01:02:15):
been controlled by Syria and Iran. Why aren't we sending
them direct to Tehran and saying, call off your little dogs?

Speaker 1 (01:02:24):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Why are we going this direction?

Speaker 14 (01:02:29):
Well, you know, as I like to think of myself
as a conservative commando. Okay, well you know I have
to say that the answer I'm about to give you
is mine alone. All right, It's not coming from the
Israeli government or JNS.

Speaker 3 (01:02:51):
This is my personal opinion.

Speaker 14 (01:02:53):
When you ask that question, my answer is, why are
we sending negotiators at all?

Speaker 3 (01:03:00):
You don't nego. First of all, you don't negotiate with terrorists.

Speaker 14 (01:03:04):
Second of all, by doing that, what you're saying is
there's something to negotiate, rather than saying we are defeating you,
we are you are going to beg us. You are
going to beg us for a deal, not the other
way around. And by mediating, you know, I hate that

(01:03:25):
word even because you know, basically what a mediator, these
in the democratic administrations, especially, what these mediators do is
a mass a lot of frequent flyer miles, you know,
and and really for what rather than laying down the law? Okay,

(01:03:51):
America is the world's greatest superpower, or should be when
it's not leading from behind, and it should be laying
down the law and should be saying and should certainly
not be tying Israel's hands.

Speaker 3 (01:04:06):
And Israel, by the way, should also be laying down
the law.

Speaker 14 (01:04:10):
We are pulverizing you until you surrender.

Speaker 3 (01:04:16):
And you know, I understand.

Speaker 14 (01:04:19):
I have sympathy for the Israeli government right now trying
to navigate it's most important ally navigate the relations because
you know, Israel can't afford. Israel is a tiny, tiny
country as strong as we are in many many ways.
We are extremely dependent on the United States, which you

(01:04:43):
know normally wouldn't be a bad thing, because I think
the United States is also dependent on Israel. You know,
the whole West is without realizing how much so.

Speaker 3 (01:04:55):
And you were here, Sharon.

Speaker 14 (01:04:57):
You were here on October seventh when the massacre occurred,
and you know, thousands of Hamas terrorists invaded and rockets
were flying all over the place. Then on October eighth,
his blood joined in from Lebanon with rocket attacks. You
were here, so you can grasp how from one day
to the next everyone was celebrating a holiday.

Speaker 3 (01:05:19):
It was just a peaceful.

Speaker 14 (01:05:20):
Weekend, you know, and boom boom, there was an assault
the likes of which, we say, the assault on the
Jewish people in a single day, the likes of which
haven't been seen since the Holocaust.

Speaker 3 (01:05:33):
And I don't say that.

Speaker 14 (01:05:34):
I'm not somebody who compares things to the Holocaust all
the time. No, And in a situation like that, the
only response is to say, Okay, the world has gone
haywire with this radical Islam run by Iran. Enough already,
and that's what Israel said. But then the Biden administration

(01:05:55):
said we have your back, but proceeded to stab us
in it by saying, okay, but okay, you have the
right to defend yourself, but don't kill anybody, and don't
don't okay, don't have a ground invasion.

Speaker 3 (01:06:13):
Or don't.

Speaker 14 (01:06:14):
And from the beginning, okay, cease fire, seas fire seats,
that's what you that's the message you give to the
greatest enemies of the West. It not only makes no sense,
it's very very dangerous, and it encourages, it bolsters those enemies.

Speaker 3 (01:06:31):
And I'm telling you, we would have won this war
months ago.

Speaker 14 (01:06:36):
We would have probably gotten all the hostages back if
the policies have been different.

Speaker 2 (01:06:43):
Okay, let's talk about that. We have a new president.
He's coming in in about sixty days, but that leaves
Israel pretty vulnerable for the next sixty days. How do
you feel about that vulnerability? Do you feel like Biden's
go to make some last minute decisions that are going
to actually weaken you? What you know? I to me,

(01:07:06):
everybody was saying, oh, yeah, we're so glad Trump is in,
and we are, but for sixty days, it was seventy.
For sixty days, now, the vulnerabilities there are just I can't.
I just feel like you're more vulnerable than ever. May
I'm maybe I'm being crazy saying that, but you tell me, well, I.

Speaker 14 (01:07:32):
Wouldn't say more vulnerable than ever, because I see what
you mean. This is a lame duck administration, right, and
we saw what President Obama did during his lame duck
period by not vetoing a terribly anti Israel resolution at
the United Nations Security Council. And I have to say

(01:07:54):
I was quite pleasantly surprised that today Biden, the bidenstration
did veto the latest resolution demanding a ceasefire and you know,
unilateral ceasefire in guys a Lebanon whatever, a terrible resolution
in the US did veto it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:16):
So that's one thing.

Speaker 14 (01:08:17):
So we're not as vulnerable as we've been at certain points.

Speaker 3 (01:08:22):
Also the very.

Speaker 14 (01:08:24):
Fact that Trump was elected, but not only elected. This
was a landslide and a clean sweep. That's not just
being elected. And keeping in mind that Israel's not the
only player here. The Iran and the other players are afraid.

(01:08:45):
They thought they had it in the bag with Washington
in their pocket. And so at the moment, the reason
I say Israel is less vulnerable than before is because
just the very fact of a administration, and this one,
you know, let's face it, a maga administration. Some of

(01:09:07):
the you know, which is some of the appointees. Well
we'll see if they get confirmed. In all that right,
some of them are extremely what you call extremely right
wings not and unabashedly so.

Speaker 3 (01:09:22):
And so you know, Iran.

Speaker 14 (01:09:25):
Says, oh, oh, this is the guy who ripped up
the deal with us.

Speaker 3 (01:09:29):
This is the guy who said no more money.

Speaker 14 (01:09:31):
Okay, we're this is the guy who broke her the
Abraham Accords with countries that are anti Iran. And the
terrorists are taking their cue from Iran.

Speaker 3 (01:09:41):
So in some ways, just that very.

Speaker 14 (01:09:43):
Fact makes these sixty days a little bit easier to maneuver.

Speaker 3 (01:09:49):
I hope. I think that's one thing. But also.

Speaker 14 (01:09:55):
I believe, and again this is just my opinion, and
it's important that I say that because of my previous
job and everything.

Speaker 3 (01:10:03):
I believe that there's.

Speaker 14 (01:10:05):
An element here of letting the clock run out, right,
like in sports, right, we those sixty days and in
them so okay, So let Amos Hofstein have his frequent
flyer miles and say we're it's.

Speaker 3 (01:10:19):
You know, an agreement is within.

Speaker 14 (01:10:21):
Reach, it's in our clutches, you know, and play along
with it or whatever else we're doing. You know, again,
we don't know exactly all the details. What we do
know is that Chris Bala said nothing doing about Israel
having the right afterwards to make sure it doesn't re

(01:10:42):
arm and you know, and has the right to go
into Lebanon.

Speaker 3 (01:10:47):
At the second that we.

Speaker 14 (01:10:49):
See movements of terrorists or arms being moved in from Syria.

Speaker 3 (01:10:54):
They said no to that.

Speaker 14 (01:10:55):
So, you know, my my feeling is that it's really
agus negotiation in the first place. So and I also
know that there are things going on behind the scenes
including about Gaza and the hostages that we don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:11:11):
We have hints of it, we don't know. So what I'm.

Speaker 14 (01:11:16):
Saying is it's true, it's a tricky time, these sixty days,
and on the other hand, it's giving us maybe maybe
a little bit of wiggle room.

Speaker 1 (01:11:31):
I want to thank our guests for sticking with us
and nets. Ruthie Bloom she's a former advisor at the
office of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. She's an award winning
columnist and a senior contributor at JNS. She's a coast
to a program called Israel Undiplomatic. Hey, Ruthie, thank you

(01:11:55):
for holding through the break. We appreciate your time and
being with us. Ruthie, before we get started, just tell
our audience what j n S is.

Speaker 3 (01:12:06):
It's the Jewish News Syndicate. Uh.

Speaker 14 (01:12:10):
It's a news site that has also many not only
news stories, but but opinion articles, features many podcasts. It's
got a lot of great content. It's the website is
JNS dot org. You can also look up j n
S TV on YouTube and uh, we like to keep

(01:12:36):
up to date on everything that's going on in Israel
and the Jewish world.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
And again, how can people find out more?

Speaker 2 (01:12:46):
J n s dot org JNS dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:12:51):
Ruth this special invoy to me is it's kind of puzzling.
Uh oh, Biden as I call him, I call him
because he's been Obama's puppet, Obiden, this special envoy, Obiden
is only there for another two months. What is he
trying to pull out some kind of a legacy move?
Do you think? I mean, why doesn't this old man

(01:13:14):
just get out of the way, Just get out of
the way. And the way I look at it, get
out of the way. Let Israel do what it needs
to do. And too much, we're going to have a
new president, a new hopefully a new course of direction,
especially in the relations between Israel and the United States.

(01:13:36):
And I just, I just in my way of thinking,
it's one of Joe o'biden's ploys to build some sort
of legacy for himself. On the way out of the
where and Ruthie, you tell me what you think walk
me back from this ledger pushed me over.

Speaker 14 (01:13:55):
Well, you say, why doesn't he just get out of
the way. Not forget please that he was gotten out
of the way by his own party.

Speaker 3 (01:14:06):
He was shoved out.

Speaker 14 (01:14:08):
Now in fairness, he still is the president of the
United States just because Kamala Harris became the candidate. Well,
she lost and he is the sitting president of the
United States. That's number one. Number two. I think he
was so happy that she lost.

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
I think where it's unmistakable. The smile from ear to.

Speaker 14 (01:14:33):
Ear and that man's face after the election was unmistakable.

Speaker 3 (01:14:38):
I don't think I've seen him that happy since he
won the election the first time. So that's the good
news in a way.

Speaker 14 (01:14:46):
I mean, for what we're talking about here, because I'm
not so sure that he has any interest in helping
the people who shoved him out so brutally. And why
do I say brutally. Look, it was clear. It was

(01:15:07):
painful for me to watch.

Speaker 3 (01:15:09):
It was clear. I was very angry at doctor Jill.

Speaker 14 (01:15:12):
Biden, his wife, because you know, I don't know if
you know anybody who has suffered from cognitive impairment at
a certain age that it sort of gradually goes and
everybody was witnessing it, and I felt that it was
the duty of his wife above everybody else. I mean

(01:15:32):
his children too, But you know, you say, his wife
to say this, I can't let my husband be humiliated
like this repeatedly on camera. It's too cruel. And I
have to say, even though I have been an opponent
of his politically, I thought it was cruel. I'm not
a cruel person, and I couldn't stand to watch that.

(01:15:54):
And his party knew it, and they all, you know,
just pretended not to. And then when he had the
disastrous debate with President Trump and now President elect Trump,
and the whole world saw it in such a blatant way,
all of a sudden, all the people who had been pretending,

(01:16:15):
you know, had been propping him up and pretending everything
was fine. And as you said, Obama anyway was running
the show or pulling the strings, and anyway, the administration
is a clone of the Obama administration.

Speaker 3 (01:16:29):
So we know that. But then why I say it
was so cruel the way they.

Speaker 14 (01:16:34):
What they did to him, because they first pretended that
everything was fine, and as soon as they said, uh, oh,
we're going to lose the election, then they basically said
you got to get out of there, and he did.

Speaker 3 (01:16:46):
Not want to.

Speaker 14 (01:16:48):
And uh but you know, I don't know what they
threatened him with or they just they bullied him into it.
So you know, when you say that, why doesn't he
get out of the way? It's anything I gotta say.
If I were in issues, I'd say get out of
the way. I'll show you people.

Speaker 3 (01:17:04):
I'm not getting out of the way. I'm still the president.

Speaker 6 (01:17:06):
You're not.

Speaker 3 (01:17:08):
I am. So whether he wants a legacy now here
is where I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 (01:17:13):
How you think?

Speaker 1 (01:17:14):
Do you think that this special envoy does it have
a snowballs chance? And you knowware of doing anything? And
the other thing I wanted to ask you who should
be negotiating with Hamas, who should be negotiating with Hezbollah?

(01:17:35):
Who should be negotiating with Iran? Should it be the
United States or should it be Israel itself?

Speaker 14 (01:17:43):
Well, first of all, I've been against most of the
negotiations that Israel has held over the decades. You know,
I think that the only way I don't really believe
in negotiations.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Usually the negotiations we've.

Speaker 14 (01:17:56):
Had have led to no good and they led to
eels that are no good because you're not nego. You're
negotiating with malign actors. It's not like negotiating with partners.

Speaker 1 (01:18:10):
Uh.

Speaker 14 (01:18:10):
And how do we see this when any Arab state
or any leader of any kind comes to terms with
Israel's existence. Uh, it takes two minutes. We saw that
with the Abraham Accords. How did that need a lot
of negotiating?

Speaker 3 (01:18:29):
No, it really didn't. Okay.

Speaker 14 (01:18:32):
Uh. You the reason negotiations go on is that you
have an enemy bent on your destruction making conditions and
they say, okay, well so we'll give into this and
not to that. It's not a good not a good move.

Speaker 1 (01:18:44):
Uh.

Speaker 3 (01:18:45):
As you wouldn't do.

Speaker 14 (01:18:46):
Uh, you don't have You know, when when when there's
a hostage situation in a bank, Let's say, you know,
a crazy person or whatever go takes hostages or does
something at a campus and you have the FBI, you
have negotiators going, but they're not really negotiating. They're they're
trying to figure out the best way to tackle or

(01:19:10):
kill the perpetrator. And they do that by saying, Okay,
we have to calm things down right, We've we've got
to do something because otherwise.

Speaker 3 (01:19:19):
A lot of people will be killed.

Speaker 14 (01:19:21):
But they're not actually negotiating with the criminal. No, it's
it's a phony negotiating. They're talking to them, they're talking
off a ledge maybe, but they're not negotiating.

Speaker 3 (01:19:32):
And here that's what I would say. I would say,
first of all.

Speaker 14 (01:19:36):
Yes, uh, you know, in a in a in an
administration that doesn't believe in victory, it believes that America
is not better than any other country. It believes in
you know, listen, it's doing that inside America as well.

Speaker 3 (01:19:53):
There's no such thing as.

Speaker 14 (01:19:54):
Excellence, there's no such thing as merit, there's no such
thing as earning or no better than anyone else. And
you see what a disaster that has been for the
United States itself.

Speaker 1 (01:20:07):
All right, And hey, Ruthy, we're coming up on a heartbreak,
and there are a couple of real quick questions I
want to ask you, and I also want to give
you time to tell our viewers and listeners how they
could keep up with you, read the things you write,
things like that. But a couple of things. Number one,
Israel's plan to attack Iran was leaked by somebody, somebody

(01:20:33):
in Washington. That's number one. Number two, just the other day,
Elon Musk, of all people, met with the Iranian UN ambassador.
So I wanted to get your reaction to both those things.

Speaker 14 (01:20:47):
All right, Well, about the latter, I mean, Elon Musk
denies it and the Iranian ambassador denies it.

Speaker 3 (01:20:53):
So I don't know what to say about it.

Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
Ifah, I didn't know that, I didn't know about the denials.

Speaker 14 (01:21:01):
Yeah, if if it's true, it would make me very
nervous to think that it's true, except that I hope
that Elon Musk, if he did this, didn't do something
harmful to the West inadvertently.

Speaker 3 (01:21:20):
I know he wouldn't have done that.

Speaker 1 (01:21:21):
I would look at it. Where is the back channel
from Donald Trump to Iran?

Speaker 3 (01:21:26):
Yeah, it could be. And that's all well and good.

Speaker 14 (01:21:29):
If the back channel is accomplishing what you wanted to accomplish,
it's not good if the back channel is saying you know,
you know, it'll be fine.

Speaker 3 (01:21:39):
Or we'll give you money.

Speaker 14 (01:21:40):
It depends what it depends what is said in the
back channel meetings, right, So, I you know, I know
that Musk wouldn't do anything to damage you know, US
security or world.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
And again, the idea that Israel's plan to attack Iran
was lee. Your reaction to.

Speaker 14 (01:22:02):
That, well, I got to tell you there are Israelis
who fear that that leak came first of all, from
Israel to Washington, not just from Washington, because you.

Speaker 3 (01:22:12):
Know, we have our own members of the.

Speaker 14 (01:22:15):
Left that really sided with the Biden administration over the
Nitanyao government, all right, and so uh, they're what I
would say that it's a travesty. And one thing that
it proves is that if the United States actually did
inform Iran, and there I do believe it.

Speaker 3 (01:22:33):
Okay, if that's.

Speaker 14 (01:22:34):
True, then it just shows you what a hostile, hostile
administration it's been to Israel.

Speaker 3 (01:22:41):
That's proof because that's.

Speaker 14 (01:22:42):
What you do, is you convey to the world's worst
me I mean, not the worst, because China is also
an enemy.

Speaker 3 (01:22:48):
We've got a lot of enemies.

Speaker 14 (01:22:50):
But you know at the moment with Iran, to leak
what Israel is going to do to Iran, that's how
regious and it shouldn't have been taught already. And all
it does was say, Okay, well, we can't trust, we
can't fill Washington in on any moves we're.

Speaker 1 (01:23:07):
Going to make, Ruthy bloom. We're kind coming up on
hard break. But I want you to leave us with
this how our viewers and listeners could follow you, read
things you write and also find out and possibly watch
j and S.

Speaker 14 (01:23:26):
Okay, Well, my name is Ruthy Bloom and I write
for JNS dot org and I write columns regularly.

Speaker 3 (01:23:35):
I also post them on social media.

Speaker 14 (01:23:37):
It's Ruthie Bloom on Twitter, on x excuse me on Facebook,
on LinkedIn, and JNS dot org has all the content,
all the writers and the podcast.

Speaker 3 (01:23:49):
But you can also.

Speaker 14 (01:23:50):
Look up j and STV on YouTube. But you can
also see it on the website.

Speaker 1 (01:23:56):
All right, Ruthy Bloom, we want to thank you so
much for joining us. It was great to meet you.
And God bless you and take care.

Speaker 3 (01:24:04):
God bless you too.

Speaker 1 (01:24:06):
And you are listening to him watching the Conservative Command
as we share an angle and your Shirley Rick Drader,
our friend Jim Path is going to join us after
the break and we're going to discuss Donald Trump's picks
for his cabinets. Don't go away, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1 (01:25:23):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's radio
show We Sharreon Angel. I'm Rick Trador, coming to you
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to be a real familiar face here at Conservative Commanders
is joining us. We're so glad to have them with us,

(01:25:44):
and Sharon, please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (01:25:47):
That's always my pleasure to introduce Jim Paff who is
the President of the Conservative Caucus. Jim's political career stretches
over three decades. He's also served as the chief of
staff for Colorado House rep Republican Caucus. He served as
founder and executive director of Americans for Prosperity of Colorado

(01:26:07):
and president of Colorado Family Institute and the National representative
for Family Policy Councils at Focus on the Family. Jim
served as chief of staff for two different congressmen, Congressman
Thomas Massey and Congressman Tim hules Camp. Jim, welcome back

(01:26:27):
to the Conservative Commandos radio show.

Speaker 6 (01:26:30):
Glad to be with you all. Thanks for having me again.

Speaker 2 (01:26:33):
Well, it's great to have you and it's great to
have you on this side of the election. It was
kind of touch and go, especially for us here in Nevada.
We felt like we might get the same old thing again.
And also as we covered it that night, you knew

(01:26:54):
that we were thinking could be the same as twenty twenty.
But it's not, and we're so glad. I want to
talk about some of the picks that President Trump has
just hit the ground running. He isn't wasting any time
with these picks. In fact, he's got some more as
we speak. It seems like he's got a new one

(01:27:18):
in doctor Oz and also Linda Mayhon McMahon, I'm sorry, McMahon,
and so let's talk talk to me about him going
so quickly and about the quality of the picks.

Speaker 7 (01:27:37):
Well, let's I'll talk about the quality first and then
I'll get to all right, you know, the quality is actually,
in my mind very good. Now, Formal Washington doesn't like
any of them. They might sort of like Mike Waltz,
and they're really hoping that Donald Trump picks Mike Rogers
over cash matel for FBI, because Mike Rodgers is total

(01:28:00):
deep Stater, but that he is as a Republican.

Speaker 6 (01:28:04):
I mean, we've got to remember Donald Trump needs his team.
He needs the people.

Speaker 7 (01:28:10):
Not only that they are going to be loyal, but
that are going to shake up things in the agencies
that they're at. By the way, another announcement today which
I'm really excited about.

Speaker 6 (01:28:21):
And he's a good friend of mine and he was
very effective in the.

Speaker 7 (01:28:24):
Previous Trump administration is Russ vote for Office of Management
and Budget. And this is a key one because all
these people that he's going to point to these various agencies.
You need someone strong in Office of Management and Budget
to back them up to make the changes necessary that

(01:28:46):
really would reform all of these agencies. It's offensive management
and budget that can eliminate employee positions under certain austices
that go beyond the the problems with the law that
make it hard to fire employees. Offensive management budget has

(01:29:08):
a lot more flexibility that'll help support Elon Musk and
Vivac Ramaswami's efforts with the Department of Government Efficiency.

Speaker 6 (01:29:18):
But these these are really good picks.

Speaker 7 (01:29:20):
And I'm one of the most excited about and that
everyone is screaming about is Matt Gates at Department of Justice,
the Attorney General. Listen, Matt Gates is incredibly smart.

Speaker 6 (01:29:34):
He's very capable.

Speaker 7 (01:29:35):
When you everyone who has any doubt or question about
him needs to go and look for videos of him
questioning people out of the Judiciary Commission Committee, particularly Merrit Garland.
He totally exposed Merrick Garland's efforts to weaponize the Justice
Department against Donald Trump, particularly in the Alvin Bragg case. So,

(01:29:57):
and I could keep going on, and I'm sure well
to answer questions, but the team is fantastic but here's
the point about the quickness of it. He needs to
get him all named right now, because every one of
them that he can get through a recess appointment, it
needs to happen. So, for example, Matt Gates is going

(01:30:18):
to be a tough confirmation fight. It is because these
wim'ty idiot Republicans in the Senate that are screaming and
crying about it that might make that difficult. But I
and I think Matt Gates could ultimately go through the
nomination process. But if he gets into a research resess appointment,

(01:30:39):
we've got him for almost two years, like it would
be fabulous.

Speaker 1 (01:30:43):
So if he.

Speaker 7 (01:30:43):
Doesn't get confirmed, just to have Matt Gates for two
years go after this corrupt organization that has gone way
out of hand, totally worth it to me. And I
think he deserves that. They went after him, by the way.
So I'm very pleased, very excited Donald Trump's doing. He's

(01:31:05):
almost not bad in a thousand on these picks. I'm
very pleased with it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:12):
Okay, so let's drill down a little bit. I have
never heard of Linda McMahon, many people haven't, and turns
out she's with World Wide Wrestling so what she got
to do with education? Talk to me a little bit
about that. Is this just a political payback? I guess
that's what everybody's asking. How much of this is real

(01:31:36):
experience and how much of it is I owe you?

Speaker 7 (01:31:40):
So Linda McMahon is not my favorite pick, but she's
a very good one in ways that a lot of
people may not understand. First of all, she was running
the Small Business Administration in the first Trump administration.

Speaker 6 (01:31:52):
She is a Trump loyalist. A world wrestling.

Speaker 7 (01:31:55):
Federation that she founded with her ex husband, Vince McMahon.
That's a major worldwide operation. It takes a lot of
skill to run a company that large.

Speaker 6 (01:32:07):
She is a billionaire in her own right. And that brings.

Speaker 7 (01:32:11):
Up another point, which if she's going to be running
the Apartment of Education that Donald Trump has already said
he wants to close.

Speaker 6 (01:32:17):
She doesn't need a job. Okay, she's independently wealthy, and.

Speaker 7 (01:32:23):
That's perfect for someone because one of the problems with
shutting down agencies is that most people who get appointed
to these positions do need a job. They need that
one hundred and seventy or two hundred thousand dollars a
year paycheck that or else they're totally out on the
street again and have to figure things out. This is
one of the bad things about some of the salaries

(01:32:46):
and things we do in.

Speaker 6 (01:32:46):
Washington, d C. Including for congressman. But that's another discussion.
The other thing about.

Speaker 7 (01:32:51):
Linda McMahon is she's been running America First Policy Institute,
which has been doing very pro Trump policy, So it's
not like she's unfamiliar with the policy process and how
to implement things they've been She's in an agency that
studies that, with a lot of very talented pro Trump
key people on board there. So you know, the American

(01:33:16):
First Policy Institute, by the way, is not the most
Trumpian of all of those, but it's also pretty good.
That we need to get rid of the Department of Education.
I think she's competent of doing that. It's going to
take some legislation, but also working with russ vote to
get rid of people. That's an agency. It's got to

(01:33:36):
go for decades, and we shouldn't have ever.

Speaker 2 (01:33:38):
Started it, absolutely correct. I know I was starting to
sing that song in twenty ten and got a lot
of pushback, but it's it's time has passed past past,
So there are others that I'm thinking, how will the
Congress do or the Senate do with these confirmations? Tulca

(01:34:05):
Gabbard and Robert Kennedy junior Democrats until just recently, How
does that feel to you being.

Speaker 7 (01:34:16):
GOP well, particularly Tulsea Gabbard. Actually, I am very excited
about that pick. They threw her, the intelligence community threw
her on the terrorist watch list, like it's amazing.

Speaker 6 (01:34:30):
I have a very good friend of mine who.

Speaker 7 (01:34:33):
Is close to Tulsi. I don't know Tulsi well myself,
but he's close to her. And her character is flawless
as a person right whatever wherever she is on policy,
but she understands why we need to stop doing forever wars,
and she understands very well why it is dangerous what

(01:34:55):
these what the intelligence community is doing. She's an incredibly
intelligent person, very capable, and the whatever Democrat policy leaning
she's had almost has no effect when it comes to
intelligence community. In fact, our friend and great patriot, Michael Flynn,

(01:35:18):
General Michael Flynn, he was a Democrat for most for.

Speaker 6 (01:35:21):
Almost all of his life.

Speaker 7 (01:35:23):
He's one of the most effective intelligence hurt people. You know,
you ran the Defense Intelligence Agency and then he was
the D and I, the very position Tulsi's in.

Speaker 6 (01:35:32):
He was the D and I for Barack Obama and
what called it out.

Speaker 7 (01:35:37):
So Michael Flynn is probably a good example related to
Tulsi Gabbart, although I think she had a little more
left economic policy in the past. But I'm confident about
that one and we need her there.

Speaker 6 (01:35:51):
Robert F. Kennedy Junior brings up some very interesting.

Speaker 7 (01:35:54):
Potential problems for conservatives in the sense that helping Human
Services has a lot of connection to federal funding to abortion,
and Robert F. Kennedy Junior has never been a pro
lifer anywhere near it, even though his even.

Speaker 6 (01:36:10):
Though his dad was a solid pro lifer. If you
go look back at Robert Kennedy Senior, Robert F.

Speaker 7 (01:36:14):
Kennedy Senior, he was a solid pro life person as
from a Catholic perspective.

Speaker 6 (01:36:22):
But rfk Junior, that would be a concern.

Speaker 7 (01:36:26):
And I've had discussions with people who who offer that complaint.
Let me tell you why it doesn't entirely tork me
to see this, because if if George W. Bush had
appointed Robert F. Kennedy Junior to HHS, I'd be screaming.

Speaker 6 (01:36:45):
But The one thing that may be.

Speaker 7 (01:36:47):
Positive is the fact that some of the reforms that
need to happen in the health community, in the science
end of things.

Speaker 6 (01:36:57):
He's absolutely right about.

Speaker 7 (01:37:00):
The National Institutes of Health that totally lied to everyone
about the COVID vaccine, about the effects of COVID, and
and of course, uh doctor Fauci and the nai D
he was heading that up.

Speaker 6 (01:37:12):
That's under in i H. The whole the science problem
in n i H is absurd right now. Robert F.
Kennedy Jr.

Speaker 7 (01:37:19):
Has been absolutely right about these problems. He has studied
the science of it and written books about it. You know,
He's not a scientist, but he brings a wealth of
knowledge to the table for that, and so I think,
and then some of the broader issues related to health services,

(01:37:41):
I think he's going to bring a good perspective on
so even though on the life issue it poses some
very real problems.

Speaker 6 (01:37:49):
I mean, I don't I don't want to, you know,
sugarcoat that in any way.

Speaker 7 (01:37:54):
Some of the other things he can bring the table,
and frankly, I don't think from.

Speaker 6 (01:37:58):
What I can tell, the abortion issue to him.

Speaker 7 (01:37:59):
Is not like it is for AOC, you know, and
most people in the Democrat Party. So if he's willing
to not make that his thing, then I think we
can get a net positive.

Speaker 6 (01:38:11):
But we got to keep our eye on that.

Speaker 7 (01:38:12):
I don't want to just let him go easily through
that problem and pretend like it's nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:38:20):
Okay. So there's some that are kind of not so
well known. I want to talk a bit about Doug Borgan,
Interior Secretary. And the reason that I'm asking about that
one is because Nevada is eighty seven percent federally owned
land which comes under the Department of the Interior, which

(01:38:41):
is Bureau of Land Management. So there you go.

Speaker 7 (01:38:45):
Yeah, I'm somewhat ambivalent. One of the things that he'll
be able to do he's been very good on energy policy,
is deal with these leases, this lease issue. Understand that
in and out North Dakota has I think something like
thirty five percent federal lands. Colorado, where I spent a

(01:39:09):
lot of time, desperately needs some help with polices. You know,
there's this in situ extraction process that they've been trying
that both Marathon and Chevron Urschelle and Chevron have been
trying to perfect over in Colorado. There there there's a

(01:39:29):
Saudi Arabia of of oil there that you.

Speaker 6 (01:39:34):
Have to use a heating process to try to bring.

Speaker 7 (01:39:36):
Out that is it's been a bugaboo bear to try
to get anywhere in that effort, and so this this
could be very positive for that. And of course Colorado
has somewhere in the line of forty five fifty percent
of land that's VLM managed, so a lot of I

(01:39:57):
totally you know, Sharon, I've done some political work Nevada.
It just drives me nuts how the federal government really
runs the state. It's just it's an outrage. Doug Burgham
seems to be pretty decent there. He's not the most
conservative governor of North Dakota, frankly, but he's good on

(01:40:18):
energy policy. So I think the least issue will be
a net positive. I think that's why Donald Trump chose
him to go to interior, where I'd have thrown Christinome
to be candid rather than DHS. That's maybe at my
absolute least favorite pick, because I was around Christinome on
Capitol Hill when I worked for Tim hills Camp and

(01:40:40):
for a brief time with Thomas Massey, and she is
not as conservative as a lot of people think. She
was very good on the COVID issue. I want to
give her a deep amount of credit for that because
she did not shut down her state and that was
a fantastic move and courageous move on her part. But
don't rely on her to be the most conservative person anyway,

(01:41:03):
Doug Burgham, We'll see, you know, I think I think
the least issues.

Speaker 2 (01:41:12):
That's the one.

Speaker 1 (01:41:16):
Uh, I don't know back, okay, right all together?

Speaker 6 (01:41:22):
Yeah, that's editable.

Speaker 2 (01:41:24):
Okay, Well, you know there's no Westerners right on on
his picks. There's no nobody from the West. Is that
because there's no conservatives in the West. Is that a
way he feels or or where we aren't to the
bottom of the list yet. What do you think about
that nobody from the West. I mean, they're west of

(01:41:46):
the Mississippi, but they're certainly not west of the Rockies.

Speaker 7 (01:41:50):
So yeah, I agree with you. Having lived in the West,
I totally sympathize with that.

Speaker 6 (01:41:54):
North Dakota. I brought up the issue with.

Speaker 7 (01:41:56):
North Dakota and and interior. They are dealing with very
similar issues in North Dakota to what we have experienced
in the Rockies and Western Rockies.

Speaker 6 (01:42:06):
But yeah, it would be good to be candid.

Speaker 7 (01:42:09):
There aren't a lot of conservatives that you can rely on.
Where who are the pro Trumpers? And he probably didn't.

Speaker 3 (01:42:15):
Well, there's me.

Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Share it.

Speaker 1 (01:42:20):
You gotta stay right here with me.

Speaker 6 (01:42:23):
A good point.

Speaker 7 (01:42:24):
I guess I totally messed that one up. I love
you to death and I should have brought that up.

Speaker 6 (01:42:32):
And my bad. I'm going to I'm going to take
a hit on that one and say, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
Okay, Well, you know, I'm not gonna let you dig
this hole any deeper either one of you. We're going
to go to a commercial break. We are coming to
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Speaker 1 (01:42:59):
Our guess this segment is Jim Path. He's the president
of the Conservative Caucus, and we're discussing Trump's cabinet picks. Hey, Jim,
thank you for holding through that break. We appreciate your time.
And you know, my wife said to me the other day,
she says, wouldn't it be great if Donald Trump picks Sharon?

(01:43:20):
And I says, do you know what you're talking about?
You're going to take Sharon away from me. You cannot
do that, but it would be my loss is certainly
certainly the country's gang. Jim. Is it important? Would it
be important to have somebody from the west? How absolutely
is that?

Speaker 3 (01:43:41):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:43:41):
Well, the thing is, having lived in the West for
most of the last twenty four years, in Colorado in
particular and Arizona, it amazes me how and having grown
up in the East, it amazes me how little people
in the East know about what is really at stake
in the West. For example, I don't think anyone in

(01:44:03):
the East understands the situation with the Colorado River and
the multi state compact related to the Colorado River.

Speaker 6 (01:44:10):
It is a very important, but very.

Speaker 7 (01:44:14):
Complicated structure that requires tweaking all the time, and it's
a significant factor in the West.

Speaker 6 (01:44:22):
No one understands that whole Colorado.

Speaker 1 (01:44:24):
Does that fall to the Interior Department?

Speaker 7 (01:44:29):
Well, the compact is organized by the states and they
negotiate through things. But Interior, I think, does have some
say in that, and Congress does too.

Speaker 6 (01:44:39):
They can make tweaks and adjustments to it.

Speaker 7 (01:44:41):
The other thing is, as Sharon brought up earlier, this
eighty seven percent of land in Nevada that is run
by BLM. We've had major, major disputes, like to the
point of people dying over disputes on ranching land.

Speaker 6 (01:45:00):
I don't think people understand how the ranching.

Speaker 7 (01:45:03):
Land situation works out that way as well, so people
in the east, east of the Mississippi. It's just it's
a totally different world. You need to have been in
the area to understand it. And and you know, man,
I mean forest roads, forest management, there's so much. So yeah,
I think having someone from the West is really important.

Speaker 6 (01:45:27):
Sadly, the West for the most part.

Speaker 7 (01:45:31):
Remains pretty far left, and we need to break that stranglehold.

Speaker 6 (01:45:37):
I think in Nevada and Arizona.

Speaker 1 (01:45:39):
I was talking.

Speaker 7 (01:45:40):
I was in Arizona recently. I was talking to some
folks there. I do believe that actually this election was
a good re beginning of asserting those conservative principles. Nevada
has always been a very liberty minded state, and in
Arizona as well too. The Republican Party in each state
has been challenge of One of my my real good friends,

(01:46:05):
Bob Ruckman, used to be the Clark County chairman and
really struggled with the rest of the state party.

Speaker 6 (01:46:12):
I know that was a challenge for him.

Speaker 7 (01:46:14):
You know, there's a there's a real opportunity to get
things back in.

Speaker 6 (01:46:18):
Line with the Donald Trump leadership.

Speaker 7 (01:46:20):
So yes, I do agree we need people from the
West running interior because that's where all the land is.
There's hardly anything like it's monuments type stuff. It's battlefields
in the east. It's real working land constantly in the West.
That really matters to people, has a big impact on
the economy. Even so, Jimmy, you know what, I had

(01:46:43):
an observation. I don't know if it's just me, but.

Speaker 1 (01:46:46):
It seems like this his his picks so far has
almost been like an all star team. When you go
down this list of his picks, it's it's no and
it's really unfamiliar that people are unfamiliar with. I mean,
these people are people that have been around, They've been

(01:47:09):
Stowart conservatives. And by the way, I love it. I
love it when they picked somebody like a mac Getz
or Pete Hegseeth and the left, the heads of the
left explode. I say, my gosh, that proves that Donald
Trump made a great pick. But and you know, I

(01:47:30):
wanted to make a comment about Linda McMahon. Wwe a huge,
huge faul TBI and dollar company and for her to
be a part of that, and you know, I have
no problem with her. I have no problem with anybody
that has that kind of a business experience who's willing

(01:47:50):
to take a pick cut and go in government. And
I think we see this with with Elon musk Rick
Ramashwami pitching in with this. I mean, what do you
get your observations? Do you also see this as as
the all star team for a cabinet?

Speaker 14 (01:48:11):
You?

Speaker 7 (01:48:11):
No, I really do, mostly because everyone he's chosen is
competent to perform the task that's there. By the way,
you didn't mention Howard Lutnik now over Commerce Department. By
the Commerce Department we need to eliminate. But if you
want to manage the things that Donald Trump is planning
on doing right now, that's a great another billionaire and

(01:48:31):
great guy who's who's proven himself.

Speaker 1 (01:48:35):
Well, there's a lot of them we haven't mentioned. I mean, yeah,
this list, I mean, you go down this list starting
with Susie Wilds, Mark Rubio, Matt Getz, Robert Kennedy, Elsie Stefanik,
Tom Holman. I mean I thought that was a great pick.

Speaker 6 (01:48:50):
Is gonna be a fantastic he pic.

Speaker 1 (01:48:52):
I mean he takes that I think is another great pick.
I mean absolutely, I mean I mean, go down this list.

Speaker 6 (01:49:00):
Well listen, Oh yeah, Sean Duffy even let me let
me pick up on the peat head thing.

Speaker 7 (01:49:07):
This is what this one's really interesting. He understands the military.

Speaker 6 (01:49:11):
He served. He was a National Guard.

Speaker 7 (01:49:15):
Served in the National Guard, achieved the rank of major,
but he was on three employments as an infantry officer.
He received two bronze stars. He has been working in
the veterans community extensively since he left the military. And
he's got a BA from Princeton and an MA from Harvard,

(01:49:36):
which all these radical leftists that's the minimum require.

Speaker 6 (01:49:39):
Well he's got a Harvard degree, so yeah, we're gonna
he's qualified and never been some And that's the other thing.

Speaker 7 (01:49:46):
In contrast to the people that Barack Obama chose, even
the people George W. Bush chose, there are a lot
of incompetent people who really screwed up badly and harmed
the American people, who had all the credentials that we're
supposed to believe or good good for America.

Speaker 6 (01:50:06):
And it's a bunch of bull crap that's happening.

Speaker 7 (01:50:08):
You've got the liar Eric Holder, who you've got, you know,
the from the I r S and all the weaponization
of the I R S that was used. I mean,
I could go on and on and on about the
failures of previous people. Every one of these people are
America first people, not just kind of'sport Donald Trump, but
because they really do put America first. P Xsath is

(01:50:30):
a really exciting one because he's not bought into the
bureaucracy of the d D in a time when we've
got to extract the EI, which he's talked about extensively,
and we have to get the focus once again on
the military force being competent to win battles. Not that
we need to be using it everywhere, but if we

(01:50:51):
ever have to use it, there needs to be a
readiness that frankly does not exist right now.

Speaker 1 (01:50:56):
You know, Jim. And the other thing that all these
I believe, I believe all of these are Donald Trump's picks.
They were not a lot, for instance, in his first administration.
I think a lot of those picks were the r
nc's picks. We know what, how troublesome. A lot of
the picks were. And the other thing, I don't see

(01:51:18):
a lot of holdovers from his first administration. Yes, just
a couple or a few, but not a lot of
holdovers here. And another pick that I loved and I
think it taught. It says a lot about our relationship
with Israel, and that is Mike Huckabee, a former governor,

(01:51:42):
a minister being named ambassador to Israel of all places,
you know, where Christianity started. You know, I thought that
was a great symbol, not just a symbolic pick, but
a great solid pick.

Speaker 14 (01:51:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:51:59):
As a former and someone who's run president two different times,
he has the skill and capability to handle the diplomatic relations.
And let's be honest, even though we're great friends with Israel,
there are real challenges in that diplomatic relation that happened
behind the scenes that no one ever hears about.

Speaker 6 (01:52:18):
And we work them out as friends, but.

Speaker 7 (01:52:20):
They can be pretty touchy. I'm telling you, Mike Huckabee
is very capable to handle those situations.

Speaker 6 (01:52:29):
He understands them because he's been following the issue as
well too.

Speaker 7 (01:52:32):
Yeah, I think it's a great pick, And just from
that standpoint of having Christians and Jews who care about
one another through this relationship. To have that connection very
very useful. And I'm that one is maybe one. It's
definitely one of the most exciting ones. Absolutely, and a

(01:52:53):
man that's been to Israel many, many, many times.

Speaker 1 (01:52:56):
Hey, Jim, we want to thank you for joining us.
I know you're on the road. I'm not going to
hold it too long because I would you know that,
I would say, hey Jim, you have more time, but
I'm not going to do that today because i know
you're on the road. But I want to thank you
so much for joining us. But before you go, give
us the four one one on the Conservative Caucus.

Speaker 7 (01:53:18):
So uh, we are going to this next year twenty
twenty five. Immediately here we have got to be working
on election integrity issues. The Conservative Caucus is going to
be taking some of these up.

Speaker 6 (01:53:30):
There are other great organizations that.

Speaker 7 (01:53:32):
Are doing some things to Tom Fitton's organization.

Speaker 6 (01:53:34):
I actually just was talking to him this weekend. They're
doing some things.

Speaker 7 (01:53:37):
But we need to build this momentum to get our
elections right. We do not have American elections right now,
are Mark Elias elections. We want to change that. Democrats
run our elections. It's got to stop. So if anyone
wants to find out what we're doing, they need to
go to the Conservative Caucus dot org and they can

(01:53:58):
learn how.

Speaker 6 (01:53:58):
To be great grassroots leaders.

Speaker 7 (01:54:01):
We have an entire university of stuff right there if
they click on the top right hand side and sign up.
We are also going to be developing our fifty state
grassroots effort. Get them ready for twenty twenty six, and
then we'll be ramping up. By the way, we're gonna
We're gonna our number one overarching goals to defend Donald Trump.
We helped them get elected with an aggregate eight million

(01:54:23):
dollars of spending in independent expenditures in this cycle. We
want to back him up in every way we can.
So every MAGA America first pro Trump person. If you're
interested in how to be effective and make that go
even further, go to the Conservative Caucus dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:54:42):
Jim Path, President of the Conservative Caucus, said, Jim, thank
you so much for joining us. Take care, God bless
and be safe on the roads. Done to interviews whilere
you driving, Jim, you convince me, but we appreciate you.
Take care and God blessppreciate both of you so much,
So thank you very much for your kindness to have

(01:55:04):
me on any time, and you are listening to and
watching The Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angle. I'm Rick Drader.
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Speaker 2 (01:58:33):
It's my pleasure to thank our guest, Ruthie Bloom, who
is our first guest, former advisor at the Office of
the Prime Minister Benjamin not n I Hu and an
award winning calumnist with the Jewish News Syndicate. She is
a resident of Tel Aviv, and she talked to us
about peace in this war with Israel and what that

(01:58:57):
looks like. She says, so render I have to agree.
Our second guest, Jim Path, who is the president of
the Conservative Caucus, he talked to us about the Trump
cabinet picks went through and gave us the reasons why
each one was thoughtfully picked, not just because they have

(01:59:20):
an iou in with the Trump administration for bringing out
the vote. It's always very interesting because we always think
that these picks have to do with being friends with
the new president, but not necessarily. Many of them are
very much capable and able to do the job that

(01:59:43):
he's asking them to do. So I'm thank you for that.

Speaker 1 (01:59:47):
Very capable and not only capable. I really do think
that their allies of Donald Trump. But for right now,
we are out of time. That means that we got
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