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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow Patriots. Welcome Fello, the Plurabulls,
Welcome all of you, drinks to society, rock dwellers. You're
sick of us, you stink goes, you mega Nazis. I
know you're getting tired of it, You're getting tired of
being called those things by the left. But always need
you to know that, and always need you to know

(00:40):
that you're always going to be welcome here. And this
is the Conservative Commander's a Radio show. And I'm Rick Draider,
coming to you from the My Pilar Studios and My
Story Studios of the aun TV network. And joining me
today as my co host is Sharon Angle, the Patriot
from the Battleground State, the battle born State, the Silver

(01:02):
State of Nevada. Sharon, welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commanders.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Thanks Rick, It's always great to be here. Always a
difficult thing for me to decide which thing we should
cover first. You know, I always have a few topics
in mind when we come on to the show, and
I'm always wondering what our audience would like to hear
about first, What really is the burning desire do they

(01:34):
want to hear? You know, my favorite thing, what's going
on with election integrity? Or do they want to hear
what's the latest as far as the scandalous things, or
do they want to hear something that has some real
constitutional meat. And I decided, hey, let's go with the

(01:56):
scandal first.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Well, sure, that's what I was going to suggest. I mean,
that's what seems to attract people. They there. I guess
the thing that I'm seeing reported on the most, at
least on Facebook. There are actually two things. One last
Friday night, the Philadelphia Phillies were playing the Miami Marlins

(02:22):
in Florida, and one of the Phillies hit a home
run and this man ran over and grabbed the ball
and run over in about four or five seats and
gave it to his son. Well, this woman comes charging
at the this family, screaming and demanding the baseball. Well

(02:45):
that's that's number. That's the big thing on Facebook. The
other thing is this very tragic death of this young
girl on a train in Charlotte, North Carolina by a mania,
a convicted felon, somebody that's been arrested numerous numerous times,

(03:09):
whose mother didn't want him released. The mother wanted him
institutionalized and this poor twenty three year old girl is dead.
Why because political correctness didn't do the right things by
putting this guy in jail or at least putting this

(03:30):
guy in a mental institution. And of course the liberal media.
It's amazing, Sharon, the liberal media doesn't report on it,
and when it does report it, they say, well, mega,
mega is hyping up this story. Now, if this was

(03:51):
a white man who killed a black woman, you can,
just like George Floyd, there be riots, there be it,
you can just imagine what would be going on. But
this black man, who has an arrest record longer than
you are tall, Sharon, literally, okay, longer than you are tall,

(04:14):
he kills a twenty three year old woman. And by
the way, she escaped from the from Ukraine. She's a
refugee here from Ukraine, and she's dead. She's dead. You know, Sharon,
when is it? I know we're getting a little off topic,

(04:36):
but I asked Mary this today, when when can we
get laws they're going to hold? These courts and these
judges responsible were continuing to let these bad people on
our streets. And yet when Donald Trump tries to do something,

(04:58):
oh it's Horrible's Nazie he's going to put us all
in concentration camps. But I'd love to see a law
that the families can hold these judges and courts responsible
when they release these lifelong villains onto our streets to

(05:20):
commit horrible crimes like this. But so, Sharon, those are
the two things that I'm seeing most of the time
on at least our Facebook today.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
I think the other thing that I see is this
constant and JD. Vance, our vice president, is the one
that said this, the constant dribble drip, drip, drip, dribble
drip of the Democrats on something that is really it's

(05:53):
angering when you think about how much news time the
Epstein files have taken up, you know, just in you
talking about what about this? And it never even sees
the light of day.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Yes, but.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
Yet yet we get to hear that constant dribble of
stuff coming out about the Epstein files. They didn't want
to talk about it when it happened. They didn't want
to release anything after they arrested Epstein. They didn't want

(06:34):
They did the slow, slow move, always always always on
this thing until Donald Trump gets elected and now they
start to work him over well, and as JD. Van said,
it's he says, we all know what's going to happen.

(06:58):
They're going to dribble little details out for days or
weeks in an effort to assassinate the president's character.

Speaker 1 (07:07):
Oh with Sharon, didn't I mention to you last week
that so apparently there is no quote unquote Epstein less
there is none. So the thirty female victims, thirty female
victims are getting together and they're compiling their own lesson.
We talked about this last week. I can just about

(07:29):
guarantee you, I can just about guarantee you that one
of these women are going to put Donald Trump's name
on this list. But I can just about guarantee that
the Democrat Party is working with at least one of
these thirty women to include Donald Trump. Now, they're not
going to talk about Barack Obama, they're not going to

(07:52):
talk about Bill Clinton, they're not going to talk about
Robert Menandez, they're not going to talk about all the
liberals that apparently we're done at Fantasy Island, all right,
but they're going to be sure, be sure Donald Trump
is drigging drugs through the mud once again.

Speaker 2 (08:14):
Well, it just is so surprising to me that about
who's carrying this kind of bogus news And as jd
Vance said, and everyone will just move on from the
fact that the Wall Street Journal is acting like a
Democrat super pack. It's disgraceful and it's why the President sued.

(08:36):
So you're right, Donald Trump is not standing back from
these things. He's going after it. But it's because they're
going into news sources that we used to rely on,
that we used to say I can depend on them,
and what's happening is we can't depend on them either.

(08:59):
And I guess my point is is that's why so
much alternative media has been springing up, and we're one
of those. We sprang up really before alternative media was
was a thing. This has been at least fifteen years
ago that conservative commandos sprung up. And I can remember

(09:21):
Rick Trader getting a lot of criticism, even from me
saying maybe we ought to tone it down conservative commando
sense kind of radical, and he says, nope, I like
this name. We're going to keep this name, and we're
going to keep pushing forward with this because there there's
a place for us. There's a vacuum here of news.

(09:44):
And I'm not saying that you're a a prophet, Rick Trader,
but you saw it.

Speaker 1 (09:51):
I'm diabolical. I'm diabolically remember that one, Jared, I'm diabolical.

Speaker 2 (09:57):
Diabolical, Rick Trader. What I'm saying is that you see,
you saw what was going on in the media before
most of us saw it. You saw the bogus lies,
the fake you know, before President Trump either ever coined
the phrase fake news. You saw it before uh Sarah

(10:21):
Palin ever called it the lamestream mainstream. You saw it.
It was. It's just interesting to me that one more falls.
You know, we we think, okay, we've got Fox News
not so much, We've got Newsmax because we know the

(10:41):
founder of Newsmax. We are good friend, you know, he
founded it. And we thought we've got Newsmax not so much,
and we got.

Speaker 1 (10:51):
Ready the ceo not when Chris were ready. The CEO
of newsmacks give millions of dollars to the Clinton's foundation,
then fires people who refuses the job, right, don't have news.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Max And then and now you know, and then it's
the Wall Street Journal not so much, and and all
of it gets right down to it, doesn't it. It's
the money. It's just the money. And you know, I
would say, who cares about the money? And Rick Traitor

(11:27):
said that a lot over the years. Who cares about
the money? I'm going to invest my whole Social Security
check in just getting the truth out. So who cares
about the money? Well, it's starting to come down to
we've got a care about the money because we have
some opportunities here, and we have some we're kind of

(11:49):
up against the line right now, and I guess that's
why I feel like we just need to make the
appeal again. If you want to hear truth, if you
I want to know that you can rely on a
media outlet that's going to give you experts that really

(12:09):
are speaking the truth, you need to contribute a little bit.
And when I say a little bit, I mean just
a little bit. Just thirty dollars a month. I know
many of us spend more than that just going for coffee.
It's just a small amount, but thirty dollars a month
gets us great programming that we already have, so you

(12:32):
don't have to go out there and find it. We've
got it. We've got to Nish to SUSA. We've got
Alan West, we've got the strong voices of the conservative movement,
James o'keef. We've got them. We've got the little local shows.
We've got the shows that are kind of like us,

(12:57):
all most syndicated but not quite shows across the nation's
conservative commandos. We've got those things already in our programming,
and we can go further. We're already covering much of
northern California. And when we speak of northern California, and
we're not just speaking of the red the Red counties,

(13:19):
we're speaking right in the belly of the cloth and
Gavin Newsome Live, we're there, Charry.

Speaker 1 (13:27):
You need a little update on this when you talk
about northern California. We are also now in southern California.
We've just opened a news station in Palm Springs, by
the way, I want to welcome all our new viewers.
And Palm Springs also another station in San Francisco. So

(13:47):
we are by the way, I want to heap a
little more praise on me, you know, go ahead, but
just saying that you know we are, we are expanding,
but we need, as you said, we need a getting
talk about a dollar day, Sharon, people that go to
people that go to Starbucks for a six dollar cup

(14:08):
of coffee. I mean a six dollar cup of coffee.
We're asking for a dollar a day. Well, so we're
asking for maybe two or three two spoons out of
a cup of coffee. We need one hundred people to
be patrons to the AUN TV network for a thirty

(14:29):
dollars level thirty dollars a month. We need one hundred patrons.
As Sharon says, I donate my entire Social Security check.
Why am I able to do that? Well, I have
no kids, I have no grandkids, but I do have
a great love for our country. And this country probably
means more to me than anything other than my dear wife,

(14:54):
my dear friend Sharon, and George and my little kiddy Cat.
I love to his this country. I love how our
founding fathers created something that was never ever there before.
It's like when all the stars and all the planets
lined up correctly. That's what That's what it was in

(15:16):
Philadelphia when our founding fathers got together and created this country.
When I talk about this poor young lady who is
killed by a maniac in Charlotte, North Carolina, none none,
and I literally mean none of the mainstream media networks

(15:38):
are talking about this. Why Because it's black O and
white Prime. Why because it's a maniac Okay, Why because
it's not politically correct. It doesn't fall in their political correctness.
The mainstream media has ignored this, and Sharon will I
have to go to break But you're right. There was

(15:59):
a time when we could trust the media. But the
days of Walter Cronkite, the days of Harry Reasoner, the
days of Hotley Brinkley are gone. I bet those men
are rolling in their graves when they see what their
great networks of ABC, NBC and CBS are doing. And

(16:24):
with that, this is the Conservative Commandos with Sharon Angle,
I'm Rick Trader. And by the way, today's show, like
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And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
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(22:17):
were in like flip, Sure everyone else is on your
radar screen.

Speaker 2 (22:24):
Well, I guess the thing that always is on my
radar stream screen is the Constitution. And I know that
it's very dear to the hearts of most of our listeners.
President Trump has been pressure pressuring intensifying pressure on the
federal Reserve. He in August he launched an attempt to

(22:49):
fire the governor, Lisa Cook, citing alleged mortgage fraud, and
then he uh has also nominated and economic advisor Stephen
Moran to fill a vacancy left by a former governor.
And who cares? You know, why is he putting this

(23:14):
kind of pressure, working this hard on the Federal Reserve. Well,
I think it's because most of us really don't understand
what the Federal Reserve is. Remember in nineteen sixteen, and
I don't remember this, I know our listeners don't remember this,
but they started tinkering with how our money, where we

(23:40):
got our money. They gave us the income tax, and
they set up this Federal Reserve Act. Congress made a
central bank out of the Federal Reserve. And they didn't
even have the power to do that. It's unconstitutional. And
yet they went around the constitution set up the Federal Reserve,

(24:05):
and the Federal Reserve really is an unaccountable body. They
don't account to the President, they don't account to Congress.
They are allowed to manipulate our money and our economy
in such a way that it's historical fact that they

(24:27):
caused the Great Depression by titaning up money when they
shouldn't have, when they needed to actually let the money flow.
They were the ones that caused the run on the
banks and the money to come in short supply. So
that's just history, that's not you know, anybody making an

(24:50):
outlandish claim about this entity. And they finally caught up
with somebody that's going to bring them to heal, and
that is President Trump. And that's why he's focusing so
hard on this, knowing that the part the people who

(25:12):
control our finances in this country are the ones that
can make or break this country, and we need to
revisit this at least and call it back under the
restraints of the Constitution. And I'm not exactly sure how
he's going to do that. Rick, I'm so glad. I'm

(25:34):
happy that he wants to do that, and that he
has been working on it behind the scenes. You know,
he's got wars that he's been thinking about and other
things that here slowly, slowly, slowly. Over this last nine
months that he's been in office, he's been working on
the Federal Reserve to free us up as a nation

(25:55):
from We've talked about the word diabolical last segment. Well,
here's something truly devilished, truly diabolical, and that is the
Federal Reserve and how they control our money and how
they control the way the economy moves.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
It seems to me, and we hear this in the
news about Jerown Pal that President and Trump is saying
to Jerome Pal lower rates or lower rates. How by
him not lowering rates, it is costing the American people billions,
if not threeions of dollars and added interest then we

(26:38):
have to pay on the debt. It's costing homeowners. It's
costing business owners that every time they get a mortgage
r or borrow money to expand their business, start business,
expand a business, that money costs more because of these
these diabolical we're the governors like Jerome Powell, all right,

(27:05):
and he said, well, it's because he's saying it's because
we can't lower rates because of inflation. Now, what did
they do in twenty twenty four. They lowered the rates
right before the presidential election, and that was to help

(27:25):
Kimela Harris. You know, this is supposed to be an independent,
bipartisan board, but all these governors are nominated by politicians. Yes,
all right, it isn't bipartisan. It isn't. It is very partisan,

(27:50):
depending upon what party elected, what governor. Got a question
for you, Sharon, sure, because where in the Constitution does
it authorize a FED.

Speaker 2 (28:06):
It doesn't.

Speaker 1 (28:07):
It doesn't.

Speaker 2 (28:08):
That's what I'm saying there. It isn't. And when actually
they had this discussion when they were writing the Constitution,
and the overwhelming majority of our founding father said, no
central banking system, and we need to go back and
repeal failed things. The Federal Reserve has failed, the infrew

(28:32):
tax has failed. We need to we need to get
our Congress to aut I honestly, if the judiciary would
act like the judiciary and say our job is to
look at laws that are constitutional and judge if they're constitutional.
A law and look at this and say this is

(28:56):
not constitutional therefore it's null and void. That's all they'd
have to do, because it's obvious that this is not
a constitutional law. And yet where was the judicial branch
when they were supposed to be doing their job in
nineteen thirteen or even beyond that.

Speaker 1 (29:19):
But somebody needs this is question, Sharon.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
Well, I think president Trump is, and.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
You're right about that, President Trump is. Prior to that,
who you know, we used to hear Ron Paul and
now Ran Paul's carrying on the mantra to auditive FED
Number one, who's going to audit the Fed? What are
they going to audit for? What they ought to look

(29:46):
into is do we need the FED at all? At all?
What we need the FED for?

Speaker 2 (29:54):
Why?

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Why do?

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Why not?

Speaker 1 (29:56):
Why? Why is an interest rates did determined by the
law of supply and demand? Absolutely, there you go, that's
the law of supply and demand. Seems to work at
a lot of other things, but government government wants to
always put their thumb on the scale. Has been to

(30:17):
the Museum of the Bible in Washington, DC, quite an
impressive place, and I'm surprised that the Liberals haven't done
more to try to stop it. But they can't. They can't.
It's there part of the Smithsonian I do believe now.

Speaker 2 (30:39):
And you know, and rightly so, because we were a
country that was founded on biblical principles. Many much of
our constitution, although not a direct quote from the Bible,
I certainly carries a very strong biblical contact. And you

(31:01):
can go straight to Deuteronomy for most of it and
just look in the Bible, and there's one of those principles.
One of the principles, of course, is our Declaration of Independence,
where it says we're endowed by our Creator with certain
inalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

(31:22):
And those are biblical concepts. So it's right that we
should have the Museum of the Bible in Washington, d c.
And that we should be able to kind of look
at that book. And I just have to say, you know,

(31:42):
there's a lot of reasons why I like Trump, and
one of them is this. He went to the Museum
of the Bible, and he said, for thousands of years,
the Bible is shaped civilization, ethics, art, and literature, and
it's brought hope, healing, and transfer information the untold millions
and millions of lives. The Bible is also an important

(32:06):
part of American of the American story. That's why I'm
delighted to announce that just moments ago, I have personally
delivered the Trump Family Bible, given to me by my mother.
So the President's mother's Bible is now in the Museum
of the Bible. And you know, I think that only

(32:31):
serves to invite more people to go to the Museum
of the Bible and look and see what's there. You know,
if there, if you're a Trump fan, when you want
to see Trump's mother's Bible, that it's his family Bible.
That's where the family tree was kept, you know. But

(32:53):
the baptisms, the birth, the marriage, is the deaths, all
of those things go into that family Bible. A very
interesting interesting thing to donate, and to donate to a
place where everybody can see it, so you don't have

(33:14):
to wait for the Trump Museum or you know, like
they have the Reagan Museum in southern California that you
can go see the Reagan relics. But President Trump has
really set it up in our nation's capital where you
can see this thing. You don't have to wait for

(33:34):
him to be out of office and have them build
some kind of a place for that. It's there right now,
and he took it there so that I just had
to say, put on you, President Trump, thank you for
pulling attention, calling attention to our own heritage as Americans.

(33:57):
You know, I spent the weekend with some of my Ermannos.
Ted and I have been attending a Spanish only speaking
church for about the last eleven years. I have grandsons
that have a heritage within the Hispanic community, and so

(34:18):
that's why we started going there, is to encourage them
to be bilingual. For one thing, it's very it's very
important that you know as many languages as possible, and
Spanish is really a helpful language in our culture these days.

(34:38):
But as we have grown to love our Ermanos, we've
gotten to hear some of their stories and that has
been a real eye opener for us. One of the
fellows that we tend church with, his name is Loose,

(35:02):
and Loose means light, and he told me that his
father was killed when he was twelve years old, and
so he became part of the support, in fact, a
main part of the support for his mother and three
little sisters, and at age nineteen, he decided that he
had no future in Guatemala. He couldn't stay there in

(35:26):
a warring country with no education and just going out
and picking crops. It just was not going to give
him a future. And so he left home on foot
and walked across Mexico. Took him four months to walk
across Mexico to the US border, and he did it

(35:50):
following the train tracks. He said, I knew those train
tracks were going north, and so I just kept going
north until I hit place where I had the opportunity
to have a future. And they met him with border
and said you can't come in here, and he told

(36:10):
them that he was from Guatemala seeking asylum, and so
he was allowed to come in then into the country
on asylum. They helped him get a job, he got
his citizenship. His children, he takes them back to Guatemala
every year to visit their grandmother, but also to see
the difference between every other country outside this United States.

(36:35):
He said, I never want them to forget how blessed
they are to live in this country, to be born
in this country, to have the opportunity to be citizens
of this country. It was inspiring to hear, you know,
and I think anyone who has friends who are immigrants

(37:00):
and have come to this country. They really know the
value of this country that trusts in God, this country
one nation under God. This country that has a Museum
of the Bible. So just wanting to say thank you

(37:21):
President Trump for underlining, line, lining all of that for
all of us.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
Well, Sharon, I want to make a correction. I made
an error. I said the Museum of the Bible is
now part of the Smithsonian. I was wrong about that.
The Museum of the Bible is a nonprofit museum in Washington,
d C. Owned by the Green family that documents the
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Speaker 1 (41:57):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Considerate command Is
Radio show. I'm Rick Draider, coming to you from the
My Pillow Studios and My Stuart Studios of the ae
n TV network. Sharon, last week we talked about the
burning Man thing that takes place in Nevada. I wanted
to ask you for an update. Did they ever figure

(42:18):
out the murder that took place there?

Speaker 2 (42:22):
They did, and aunts Stephen Stranger. Then you expect.

Speaker 1 (42:28):
And by the way, let's let's refresh what black. You
can say what burning man is, but at this burning
Man thing, I don't. I've never been there. I don't
know what it is, Sharon, weal, I've never experienced it.
But apparently it's kind of like love piece and rock
and roll in anything goes, they have dens of it,

(42:52):
what do they call it? Org dens and stuff like that.
And within all this love piece and orgy, there was
a man killed that Sharon told us about last week.
And Sharon, let's start out. Maybe some of the her
viewers today were with this last week when we talked
about burning Man, But give us a little idea what

(43:15):
it was, and then bring us up to speed on
the murder.

Speaker 2 (43:18):
Well, burning Man started out as really a group of hippies,
just like Woodstock, Let's go out to the desert and
we'll burn a man in effigy. So they made us
straw man and sticks and wooden stubble and all that stuff.
And then they went out had a great, big party,
and at the end of the party they burned their

(43:42):
stick man, their straw man and came home. Now, the
Black Rock Desert is a is a dry lake playa,
which means that it's very fine, silty, not sand sand.
But it just gets in everything. It gets, it sticks

(44:05):
to everything, It sticks on your hair, sticks every place.

Speaker 1 (44:08):
In fact, the.

Speaker 2 (44:11):
As the festival grew, people didn't want to take their
own vehicles out there because they just get trashed out
there with all this playa dust, and it's very likely
that you'll get into a windstorm in the playa which
will blow this dust into everything, And so they would

(44:32):
rent cars and take those out. Well, the rental car
places got wise to that, and in fact, on Friday,
a couple of weeks ago, now before the festival, I
overheard one of the ladies at the car rental place saying,
that'll be seven hundred and sixty dollars cleaning fee. We'll

(44:53):
charge it to your card. And I heard her customer
intake what seven hundred sixty dollars because that was probably
more than the rental itself.

Speaker 1 (45:04):
It's going to be way. Did the lady end up
renting the car.

Speaker 2 (45:07):
Yes, she did, but she said she said why, and
she says, well for Burning Man, and she said, but
I'm not going to Burning Man. And the lady behind
the counter said, that's what they all say. We all
refund when you don't go to Burning Man, all right,
So that's that's Burning Man. And it has now escalated

(45:31):
from a few hundred people at the very beginning to
this year, seventy two thousand people met on the Plaiya,
and they come from everywhere. These people are not just locals.
In fact, I think the folks that come in from
out of town now far and outnumber the locals. And

(45:54):
the average median income is well into six figures. They
charge a a entrance fee from five hundred to three
thousand dollars to get in, and the average age of
the person going out there is thirty seven. So it's

(46:14):
really kind of a rich man's thing anymore, rather than
a you know, a hippie thing. It's more Richmond. But
this year's Burning Man Festival had some real shocking incidents
and one of them was the murder of a Russian national.

Speaker 1 (46:37):
So this man was.

Speaker 2 (46:42):
Murdered there at the very end, toward the very end,
and he was from Russia. Vadam Kruglov, a thirty seven
year old Russian national who'd been living in Washington State,
was named as the victim found lying in a pool
of blood. According to the Sheriff's office. Uh he why why?

(47:09):
The incident has made more headlines as they investigate his death,
and they just really have not yet named anybody in
the killing. They don't know yet. They're they're still looking
at the evidence. But Yeah, you know, you don't think

(47:33):
about people coming from Russia to burning Man, but that's
kind of what happened here. And so I don't know
if we'll ever hear the bottom of this story, but
it makes you wonder, right, why why would they pick

(47:53):
out a Russian national? It's just a rest rate, just
a tourist.

Speaker 1 (47:59):
Time. Anytime something like that happens, you gotta I think
your mind goes well. Was a drug related? Was a robbery?
You know, we talked about that poor girl who was
killed on the train in Charlotte, North Carolina. That was
just a crazy man. That was just a random act

(48:21):
of violence. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (48:26):
Well, another thing that happened there was a woman again
Calea Thompson, thirty seven to see this average age, woke
up in their recreate their RV, the recreational vehicle, with
abdominal pain and she didn't have any idea that she

(48:49):
was pregnant. Boy, she gave birth in their RV to
their daughter, who weighed three pounds nine and a half.
Answers and uh is she the things that that she
had experienced a cryptic pregnancy, a rare condition where pregnancy

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goes unnoticed until late in the term.

Speaker 5 (49:13):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (49:13):
Just before delivery. So here's this. This baby gets delivered,
a really small baby, and there was some good samaritans,
including an obgyn who was on the scene. So when
I tell you that these are not just hippies out there,

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they're not hippies, you know, they're they come from all
walks of life. And this obg yn arrived in his
underwear to help. He's nobody cared what they were wearing
or not wearing. They were just there to take care

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of the problem. And so that's that's what happened there.
Then there was this other.

Speaker 1 (50:04):
Guy who.

Speaker 2 (50:07):
This is interesting, James J. P. Patrick, was meditating on
the desert floor at that final night when he was
reportedly struck by a Tesla cyber truck. He was airlifted
out of the desert and under what the emergency surgery.

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His wife said she expects to face fifty thousand dollars
in medical bills for the helicog transport. So, you know,
here a guy's just meditating, meditating, you know, who knows,
But anyway, somebody ran over him with a testa wrong.

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You know, when we get when we see them, and
we do we have. In fact, today we were just
going out of our neighborhood. And here on a side
street we're the four vehicles that had been to burning Man.
And you can tell that they've been to burning Man
because they're still covered with plia dust. Most of them

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have some really fun things on the outside of them.
They decorate them with all kinds of artistry. They often
name the vehicles. You know, it's just a fun thing
that they do with these vehicles, so you can really
tell who's been the burning Man. And here they are
parked on a side street. Who knows are they waiting

(51:34):
to be given back to the people they rented them from,
or are they waiting to put them in storage for
next year? What are those vehicles doing on that side street?
But anyway, we're not quite through the whole burning Man
thing at least yet here.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
Has this become a full time community? I mean, have
people decided just now it's just no true.

Speaker 2 (52:00):
Week two weeks they get a special permit. It's held
on Bureau of Land Management manage lens, so it's Department
of the Interior. Everybody owns it as a US citizen.
This is called public lands. We have them here in

(52:20):
the West and you can go and camp for free.
Generally speaking, they don't charge you to go on public
lands to camp, to fish, to hike, to do off
road vehicles. Sometimes they have a few restrictions if there
is a very fragile habitat, they make you stay on

(52:43):
the road so you don't go often and kill things
that are kind of rare and endangered. But for the
most part, their public lands to be used by the public,
and so the public then can put in a special
use permit to the BLM, and that's what these guys

(53:06):
do every year. They ask for a special use permit
for two weeks in the desert to have this festival.
And it really becomes a quite a burden on the
county where this land is. So it's not owned by
the county. They don't do their land use permit through

(53:28):
the county. That's through the federal government. But the county
is a small county Persian county, and it's their law
enforcement that has to bear the weight of the load.
Seventy two thousand people coming into your county for two
weeks is quite a load on a local law enforcement

(53:50):
agency that maybe has six to ten employees.

Speaker 1 (53:55):
Maybe I don't know how that's.

Speaker 2 (54:00):
County.

Speaker 1 (54:01):
I mean, you get seventy two, you get seventy two
thousand people together. God knows what went on.

Speaker 2 (54:09):
They they and they have to call in reinforcements.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
They have to call in the National Guard.

Speaker 2 (54:15):
Yes, they have to say, you know, we need some
help here.

Speaker 1 (54:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (54:20):
It's it's right adjacent to Washoe County. So I'm sure
that the Warshoe County Sheriff's Office handles some of it,
but it's under the jurisdiction of Persian County because that
piece of land is on there in their county, within
their county lines. But when I tell you Persian County,

(54:41):
the largest town in Persian County is Lovelock, Nevada. And
Lovelock is less than ten thousand people, and many of
them work in Reno, which is under.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Doesn't sound like a lot of fun to me. When
you talk about the dust sticking everywhere, well, and you
know we what the petty barter, what the pety barne
must say, there's the socker board every minute, and to
to take them. And I think that there's seventy two
thousand suckers and probably one hundred and forty four thousand

(55:14):
to take them. I don't know. Well, Sharon, let's get
a break in why because we do have a couple
of great interviews planned for you today here in the
Conservative Commandos and I'm Rictrator. My coast is Sharon Angle,
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Thank you for interesting with this. This is the Conservative
Commandos Radio show with Sharon Angle and yours truly Rictuator,
coming to you from them my Pillar Studios and my
Sture Studios of our very own aun TV network. And Sharon,
our first guest of the day is with us and
she's getting to be a familiar face or Conservative Commanders

(56:35):
and we appreciate that, but please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
Well, that's always my pleasure and honor to introduce Claire
and Lopez, who's the founder and president of Lopez Liberty LLC.
She was a career operations officer with the CIA and
publishes widely as a strategic policy and intelligence expert. Claire
is also a senior advisory board member near East Center

(57:02):
for Strategic Engagement Defending the Border. Claire, welcome back to
the Conservative Commandos radio show. Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 6 (57:11):
Always glad to be back with you both.

Speaker 2 (57:14):
It's good to talk to you again. And wait, we
always get some interesting subjects. This one is Russia, and
it's interesting to me that radical Islamis would attack Russia
and attack their citizens. This is you know, cle clearly,
this is what a radical Islamis do. But don't they

(57:37):
realize that Russia is on their side?

Speaker 6 (57:40):
Well, the first thing I would say is a slight vocabulary. Note,
there's no such thing as a radical Islamist. There are
either devout, faithful and obedient Muslims aka Jihadis, or they're not.
They're not radical. This is completely mainstream Norman Orthodox Islam

(58:01):
for fourteen hundred years. It's not radical or extremist at all.
But I'm not entirely one hundred percent certain about what
really happened there in Moscow this past weekend. We know
there was an attack at the Crocus City Music Hall

(58:22):
kind of in a suburb, I guess, a few miles
outside of downtown Moscow in Russia, and that four gunmen
burst into the music hall before the concert began and
very very methodically began shooting the people inside. They wielded AKA,

(58:46):
I'm sorry, they wielded automatic rifles, and they also had
explosives with them, and the death toll, as I know
at the moment, stands at one hundred and thirty eight
if I if I have the number right. Unfortunately, probably

(59:06):
many many others injured. And then on their way out
the gunmen who are on camera, I mean there there's
video of the attack and of them on their way
out of the building, they tossed explosives that set the
building on fire, and eventually the entire roof caved in,

(59:27):
and so there were many, many casualties. Just a horrific event.
But even though the Islamic state hut Asan right away
took claimed responsibility, the Russian president Vladimir Putin delayed. I

(59:48):
think quite maybe I think it might have been been
to the next day to make a statement publicly about this,
and in that statement he attempted to not directly but
sort of indirectly deflect the blame towards Ukraine. Well, how

(01:00:09):
predictable is that, you know? Since then, of course four
and I guess the four attackers with you know that
we're in the in the in the film Philip footage
that we saw wielding those Colossnokovs were arrested and arraigned
looking completely you know, beaten up and bloody. One of

(01:00:31):
them met his ear cut off apparently. But you know,
we may never actually know what this was actually about.
I still have my doubts. You know that it was
is k as it's called Islamic State Kurtassan.

Speaker 1 (01:00:55):
Maybe it was.

Speaker 6 (01:00:56):
Maybe it was, but I'm not one hundred percent sure
of that.

Speaker 2 (01:01:01):
And and so these doubts that you have is, I mean, where,
if did they come What you're feeling, I mean, you're
saying Ukraine, The Islamists are saying it's us. Wait, what
do you think for?

Speaker 6 (01:01:19):
For For starters, of course, we we know that there
is past history of Putin and Russia staging false flag attacks.
For example, back when they were facing off against the
Chechens in Chechnya the CAUCUSUS. It ultimately turned out that

(01:01:42):
it was the KGB that literally bombed a civilian residential
building and UH with many casualties, and that was the
excuse for Russia then to go in and destroy bomb
Grosny the capitol to Smithereens. So there's history of that.

(01:02:06):
But in this particular instance, right, the ones who were
shown on video, the captured attackers that were shown on
video with translation in questioning, right, especially one of them
said that he was an immigrant or a migrant laborer

(01:02:31):
from Tajikistan in Russia. Okay, it's very obvious from the
film footage inside the concert hall during the attack that
these four gunmen were professionally trained, they had worked together
before and obviously were methodically horrifically clearing the concert hall

(01:03:01):
by shooting everybody that moved. Where do you know migrant
laborers from Tajikistan get that kind of training and or
that kind of equipment the kalashnikoffs, the automatic rifles. And
then that particular gunman, under the questioning again in translation,

(01:03:26):
UH said that he couldn't find work, and so he
responded to a telegram social media post that that was
looking for some some people and he didn't know what for,
and he didn't know why. But they were offering, uh

(01:03:48):
for for him quite a lot of money, and he
didn't know who was asking him. He didn't know who
the source of the query was. But he signed up
and then he found found out that they wanted him
to kill people. Okay, he had no trouble with that,
but it wasn't ideologically motivated. It was financially motivated. From

(01:04:12):
his own words. In any case, it had nothing to
do at least in the clips that we saw, nothing
to do with Islamic ideology or jihad. Now maybe it did,
and that just wasn't in the you know, the video

(01:04:32):
clip we saw. Perhaps, but these things sort of do
raise the questions for me.

Speaker 2 (01:04:42):
When I looked at their ages. There's a thirty two
year old, and then there's a thirty year old, and
then a twenty five year old and a nineteen year old,
and it seems like there's some leadership here nineteen twenty five.
These those ages are not really that ideologically driven. Usually

(01:05:05):
it is more like you said, something financial it's going
on here. So it looks like, as you say, they
were hired for a specific purpose, not for a reason
of their own. They were hired thugs or gunman.

Speaker 6 (01:05:25):
It seems so now we may never get the full
picture here. We may never get all the answers. I
guess what I'm saying is that these these you know,
points just raised questions for me as to whether this
perhaps could have possibly been a false flag attack by

(01:05:45):
Putin and Russia with the intent of using the short
to come publicity to aim blame at Ukraine, which is
what Putin did in his televised statement. So could it

(01:06:05):
have been the Islamic state caught Asania? It could have,
It could have very well been. Could it have been
Russia and the Kremlin? Maybe? I think we may never know.

Speaker 2 (01:06:17):
Honestly, Well, it seems like that it wasn't a very
tidy job.

Speaker 5 (01:06:23):
To me.

Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
Usually they you know, dead men tell no tales. So
how these guys got away with such a massacre and
they're still alive? How does that work?

Speaker 6 (01:06:33):
Well, I mean, for starters, the uh, the security guards
at the venue at the concert hall were unarmed. They're
now dead and directly across the street from the Crocus
concert Hall reportedly is a facility belonging to the Ross Gloria,

(01:06:54):
that is the National Guard of Russia, who did not
come out to the assistance of the concertgoers.

Speaker 1 (01:07:03):
This is so.

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
Fishy, Claire. It just smacks of something those raised.

Speaker 6 (01:07:10):
Questions for me would that I cannot answer. I have
to leave them as questions.

Speaker 1 (01:07:16):
Well it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:17):
You know, the more you dig into it, the more
we explore it, the more questions there are.

Speaker 6 (01:07:24):
The one thing that I will say, though, is that
I think we can be very certain that this was
not Ukraine. Ukraine has never throughout the two plus years
of this savage assault by Russia against their sovereign nation.
In all of that time, they have never ever deliberately

(01:07:47):
attacked civilian facilities, homes, or venues like this one, a
concert hall. Ukraine and Ukrainians just don't do that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:02):
Well, there's a good reason. They're related to the Russians
in very close sanguinity. I mean, lots of them are
cousins and brothers and sisters. There's there's a.

Speaker 6 (01:08:12):
Mean for itself, I mean during for itself. Even though
Ukraine is now lobbing drones across the border into Russia,
the targets are very clearly military industrial. They are not
civilian apartment blocks, clinics, hospitals, schools, as the Russians have

(01:08:34):
done to the Ukrainians. Ukrainians just don't do that.

Speaker 5 (01:08:38):
Well.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
Like you said, it's just such a fishy uh scenario,
and that Putin took advantage of it anyway to blame
the Ukrainians. But it it lines up kind of oddly
with Israel, doesn't that. I mean, when Putin absolutely is

(01:09:00):
on the Palestinian side, on the Islamic side, and yet
this thing is why would that, I guess I don't
get that either. Why would the Islamis take credit for this?
You would think they would want to have a more
solid front against Israel. Israel's the bad guys. Now they're

(01:09:23):
just kind of attacking without any kind of reason.

Speaker 6 (01:09:29):
Well, so the Islamic State Khorassan has a public affairs
pr facility or you know, capability, and they put out
a statement and they said, oh, this is because of
Russian aggression in Afghanistan, Chechnya and Syria, every one of

(01:09:53):
those years upon years old ago, not that they weren't
you know that, you know, the Islamic State Kurtissan wasn't
right about what Russia had done in those places, absolutely,
but then why be attacking Moscow. Now we know that

(01:10:15):
the Islamic State Kotasan established a foothold in Afghanistan about
late twenty fourteen early twenty fifteen, and that that foothold
was established by a group from the Islamic State. Originally
it was called Islamic State in Iraq and Alsham. Of course,

(01:10:37):
in June of twenty fourteen they dropped that name completely.
I don't know why people still say Isis, but they
dropped that name precisely because the Islamic State was now
sending out branches to be established in other places, North
Africa being among them, but Afghanistan.

Speaker 12 (01:10:56):
And so that.

Speaker 6 (01:10:58):
Element of the Islamic State has been in Afghanistan since
twenty fourteen fifteen or so. It's called Kodissan. Interestingly, Islamic
State Khodissan because Kotissan Province was the name of the
Persian Empire way back in the day that in that

(01:11:23):
time extended as far east as Afghanistan and incorporated large
parts of what today is Afghanistan. And that was the
extent of the Persian Empire way back and its name
was Kodissan. Well, the Islamic state taking that name now

(01:11:45):
for its own foothold, its own base of operations there
in Afghanistan. Is interesting that they would choose that name.
Kotissan the Persian Iranian today Persian name of a Persian empire.

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Claire Lopez is our guess. She's the founder and president
of Lopez Liberty, LLC. Career operations officer with the CIA,
and we're discussing the attack on the Moscow Concert Hall.
And hey, Clara, thank you for holding through that break.
I really appreciate your time, you know, Clara. When I
heard about this and I think, oh my god, what

(01:12:25):
a tragedy. What really is the first thing that surprised
me is how fast they rounded up eleven suspects. And
Clara is almost like, okay, now we have a crime,
round up the usual suspects. And out of these eleven suspects,
they got these four guys. And these four guys, as

(01:12:48):
you said, were quite beaten, quite tortured, and then they confessed,
and it's just it's really really almost like movie. Claire's
must like movie, like, round up the visual suspects. Okay,
we got the guys. They've confessed, I'm surprised if they
pulled out, pulled off an operation like this. They didn't

(01:13:11):
have their escape planned. You know, you see what they're
getting at. Yeah, it doesn't add up. All this doesn't
add up right away. They have eleven suspects and then
they got the four guys, and these four guys confessed.
It's almost like a nineteen forties movie with Humphrey Bogart. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:13:35):
Well, here's here's another aspect of it that we haven't
mentioned yet and we should, and that is that the
United States apparently acquired information in early March, and on
the seventh of March past warning information to Russia that

(01:13:58):
a terror attack was in the planning stages and that
UH people in Russia and they were They were talking
as well to Americans, you know, from the American embassy
in Moscow. Americans in Russia too, with the warning should
avoid gathering places like concert halls. Apparently Putin UH disregarded

(01:14:22):
the message because he actually issued a statement and said,
you know, this is misleading or or something to that effect.

Speaker 1 (01:14:31):
But after is that normal where we would warn them
or they would we have?

Speaker 6 (01:14:38):
We We adhere to something called the duty to warn
and if the United States, you know, gets information about
uh an attack uh that that would you know, be
a serious attack and certainly against civilians, targeted against civilians.
We do pass that along to the host government. But

(01:14:58):
here's the thing. Then, after the attack, as the news
reports were beginning to come out, the Russian ambassador to
the United States, his name is Anatoli Antonin, issued a
statement saying, oh, the Americans never told us anything, but
Putin had already responded publicly to the warning. So another

(01:15:23):
anomaly here that we can't quite piece together.

Speaker 1 (01:15:27):
How do you expect Putin to respond?

Speaker 6 (01:15:33):
We would have fought, I mean, as the president of
any country would have issued, you know, appreciation, thank you
for the warning, and then taken steps to warn his
own people.

Speaker 1 (01:15:47):
I mean, how do you expect the Putin to respond
to this attack?

Speaker 6 (01:15:51):
So this is what I'm saying that after the fact,
you mean, well, he's going to he already has as
a matter of fact, immediately over this past weekend, lobbed
a bunch of missiles attacking all over Ukraine, including Kiev,
the capital Kharkiv, in the northern part of the donbas

(01:16:14):
and as far west as Leviv. During that attack, one
of Russia's missiles apparently even crossed over the border into
Polish territory for something like two thousand meters before crossing
back into Ukraine, and the Poles, looking at the trajectory

(01:16:37):
of that missile, apparently understood that it was aimed at
Ukraine and did not respond in any other way. But
a massive barrage again aimed at apartment buildings and clinics
and hospitals and schools that followed the weekend attack on
the concert hall.

Speaker 1 (01:16:57):
Okay, I meant.

Speaker 6 (01:17:03):
Thank you giving me of the National Security Council in Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:17:06):
Thank you, says Zor. Right, we need to kill these
four guys. I mean it seems like the Russians have
responded very quickly. They got these four guys, they beat
them up badly, They got them to confess. Clarity that
we should take a lesson from the Russians in dealing
with suspects. This way, find guys, random up, do what

(01:17:29):
we need to do to get a confession, and let's
move on with an execution.

Speaker 6 (01:17:33):
Well, you know we're we're not Russians. Okay, we are
not a tyrannical totalitarian dictatorship in America. We do for
at least some extent, still have rule of law under
the US Constitution, and hopefully most of us try our
best to adhere to that, although there have been some

(01:17:56):
notable exceptions of late. But i'll well, I'll harken back
to the attacks of nine to eleven. Did we ever, ever,
in all of these twenty three plus years, twenty two
plus years, go after the actual organizers of the nine

(01:18:17):
to eleven attacks, meaning the Islamic Republic of Iran. No,
we did not, not a single president from George W.
Bush to Barack Obama to even Donald Trump who probably
was never even briefed upon it, upon it and the
current president Joseph Biden, not a single one has ever

(01:18:37):
ever laid blame with the Iranian regime went after al Qaeda,
the Taliban, Yes, fine, and then and then what? And
then made an agreement with al Qaeda, with Iran and
with Saudi Arabia for Usama bin Laden and his family
and family and family and and fighters on their families

(01:19:03):
to harbor in safe haven inside of Iran from late
two thousand and one until mid twenty ten, which is
when they moved to Pakistan. So we don't have much
to say about the way we treat perpetrators of horrific
terror attacks either.

Speaker 1 (01:19:21):
Do we, Claire? How can this be linked to Israel?
And also I wanted you to respond to the United
Nations resolution on Israel and the US abstaining.

Speaker 6 (01:19:36):
Well, I mean, in both cases we're talking about horrific
attacks aimed at civilians in Israel. Of course, it was
the October seventh, twenty twenty three Shabbat massacre in which Hamas,
an Iranian proxy in Gaza, together with the Palestinian Islamic

(01:19:58):
Jihad at smaller Sheite affiliate partner in Gaza, crossed over
a sovereign border into Israel and attacked civilians on Kidbotsim,
in towns and villages all around the periphery of Gaza.
So in that sense, we're looking at deliberate terror attacks,

(01:20:23):
jihad perhaps in Russia, certainly jihad attacks by Hamas and
Pidge for short against civilian targets, deliberately attacking civilian targets.

Speaker 1 (01:20:39):
U n Resolution, United States abstaining and a little bit
I thought that we were their allies. They are allies.
Were you surprised by that?

Speaker 6 (01:20:50):
Unfortunately no. Increasingly since the first responses after October seventh,
which were steadfast statements of support the Jewish State of
Israel coming out of the White House, Washington, d C.
The President Joseph Biden. But since then it's been on
a downhill track to where we're looking now at. Actually

(01:21:15):
two resolutions at the UN Security Council. One was about
a week ago and that was sponsored by the United States,
and it was a resolution that specifically linked a ceasefire
possibility in Gaza, ceasefire by the idea of Israeli defense forces,

(01:21:39):
linked it directly to the release of hostages by Hamas.
And interestingly, at that time a week ago, that resolution
at the UN Security Council was vetoed by China and
Russia that did not want that explicit linkage, no ceasefire

(01:22:05):
unless hostages are released. Now fast forward a week or
so and yesterday the United States sponsored a reworded resolution
that mentioned both a ceasefire and release of hostages, but
did not link the one with the other, meaning did

(01:22:28):
not make a ceasefire resolution dependent on Hamas release of hostages.
That resolution went through the Security Council with fourteen votes.
We know that at the Security Council there are five
permanent members and ten rotating members. Right, total of fifteen

(01:22:51):
fourteen of those voted in favor of that resolution. The
United States abstained. Instead of having Israel's back, supposedly our friend,
our ally stabbed them in the back. Instead did not
veto this resolution. Now, the resolution from last week and

(01:23:11):
this week, both of them are under what's called Article six,
which makes them non binding resolutions, as opposed to were
it to be Article seven, which was not. But nevertheless,
the point is the United States did not have Israel's
back at the Security Council except to stab them in
the back.

Speaker 1 (01:23:32):
Claire, would you say this is probably the lowest point
of US Israel relations.

Speaker 6 (01:23:39):
Certainly as far as I can remember.

Speaker 1 (01:23:41):
Yes, Can you see the possibility of this administration US
saying that's it is you'r we are cutting you off,
no more weapons, no more support because of your actions.

Speaker 6 (01:23:58):
I think there is sentiment and to that effect in
places like the State Department Anthony Blincoln, who by the
way is Jewish, or at the National Security Council with
National Security Advisor Jake Sullivan and other advisors and so forth.
But given that this is I mean, everything is politics, right,

(01:24:20):
and given that this is an election year, presidential election year,
here in the United States, and the overwhelming support of
the American people is with the people of Israel is
with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and the Israeli Defense Forces
supporting whatever they need to do, which includes, by the way,

(01:24:43):
going one last step on into Ruffa, the southernmost populated
area of the Gaza Strip, to complete the destruction of
Chamas and its four remaining battalions, find and do away
with its senior leadership Yahya Sinhwar Mohammed d'If those two

(01:25:05):
are thought to be hiding in the tunnels under Rufa,
and of course doing everything they can possibly do to
release hostages still held there, while at the same time
establishing a corridor for the non combatant civilians to move

(01:25:26):
now from the south back up towards the North to
get out of the way of that impending military operation
by the IDF. And so, because it's an election year
and the American people support all of this, I think
in the end even the Joe Biden Whitehouse and maybe

(01:25:50):
even the Democrat Party are going to have to factor
that in the sentiment. The support of the American people
overwhelmingly for Israel.

Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Claire, what's left in the north for them to go
back to. I mean pictures that I saw c looks
pretty devastated to me.

Speaker 6 (01:26:10):
It has been, and we'll have heard. I'm sure of
the recent operation in the north again Gaza City at
the Shifa Hospital, which had been cleared a long time
ago at the beginning of Operation Swords of Iron, the
operation by the Idea, which had been cleared of terrorists

(01:26:33):
of Jahatis. But I think there was a sy op
that went on and Israel allowed Kamas to believe that
they were leaving it in the rear don were finished
with that, and that kind of lured maybe the Hamas
fighters back into the area into the Shifa Hospital, where

(01:26:58):
the Israelis then would lightning speed returned to the to
that area, surrounded it, entered it and captured. I think
I heard the number over eight hundred prisoners as well
as dispatching several hundred more to their virgins, while while

(01:27:22):
not a single, not a single civilian casualty. So yes,
they have to come back north and the Israelis are
working on establishing enclaves where humanitarian aid would be made available,
you know, shelter and food and water and what they
need of medical, medical help to in more northern areas

(01:27:44):
and probably the western areas towards the Mediterranean Sea. But
that that's where they would have to go. And there
may be a million or so of them, that is Gozans,
you know, down in the Rufa area just now have
to move north.

Speaker 1 (01:27:59):
Just as long as they don't bring him over here.
No all I can say absolutely, I'm with you. Claire Lopez,
founder and president of Lopez Liberty LLC. Claire, we always
love having you on the Conservative Commands radio show with us.
Please tell our audience how they could follow you read
the things you write well.

Speaker 6 (01:28:19):
I do post things up at the American Truth Project,
the Citizens Commission on National Security, the United West, especially
Unitedwest dot Com, and you mentioned at the beginning of
the show here today the Near East Center for Strategic Engagement,
where I'm on the advisory board, and then I'm on
social media too. I'm on Twitter, Facebook, Telegram and of

(01:28:42):
course the now publicly traded Truth Social.

Speaker 1 (01:28:47):
Claire Lopez, thank you so much for joining us. Take care,
God bless Claire, have a wonderful Easter.

Speaker 6 (01:28:53):
Thank you, and the same to both of you. You
and Sharon both, thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:28:57):
Take care, God bless and you are listening to and
watching the Conservative come into this radio show. We share
at angle. I'm Rick Traitor. On the other side, we'll
be joined by William Kovac, who served as a Senior
Vice President for the US Chamber of Commress. He's written
a very very interesting article, a New York Rain of
Terror on corporations. Don't go Away. We'll follow up with

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Speaker 2 (01:30:24):
It's my pleasure to introduce William Kovacs, who served as
Senior Vice president for the US Chamber of Commerce, chief
Counsel to the Congressional Committee, and a partner in the
law DC Law Firms. His book, Reformed the Cacistocracy, was
the winner of the twenty twenty one Independent Press Award

(01:30:47):
for Political Social Change. At the US Chamber, William led
the business coalitions that defeated the numerous climate bills at
the End of the Bush End of Bush and all
through the Obama administration. And his latest book is The
Evolution of Power, Rolling back the Federal State to preserve

(01:31:08):
the Republic. William, welcome back to the Conservative Commandos radio show.

Speaker 10 (01:31:13):
Thanks for having me. I enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (01:31:16):
Well, it's always a pleasure to read your articles, and
this one's no exception. A New York reign of terror
on corporations. I thought the governor said, don't worry about that.
This doesn't really apply to you. This just applies to
Donald Trump.

Speaker 10 (01:31:34):
You just hit it. What's so fascinating about this is
this law sec. Section sixty three twelve deals with environmental
claims and it was filed right at the end, right
at the end of Trump's trial, and it does something
that very few laws do. Just like they went after
Trump for deception even though there was no harm, they

(01:31:59):
went after him for our rageous damages because that's what
the law allows. It's not a one time activity. It's
part of a law that's going to be able to
go after all environmental claims. And any of us who've
dealt with climate change are going to know. The entire
American business community and I've sort of soured on them.

Speaker 12 (01:32:17):
They've just moved into wanting subsidies, and they want subsidies
and subsidies, so they make all these promises, they call
them greenwashing, that they're going to be net zero by
twenty thirty, net zero by twenty forty.

Speaker 10 (01:32:28):
So what happened in this instance, a company I'm not
going to name its name, but it's the largest meatpacker
in the world, made an environmental claim that it was
going to be net zero by twenty forty and Latisha
James decided that without any evidence, that they couldn't do
it because there's too much, too many greenhouse gas emissions

(01:32:49):
coming from animals, and that was the basis per case.
So she's going after the company under the same law
that they went after Donald Trump, and they're going to
seek damages, which are five thousand dollars per violation. The
question is what's a violation? Is it for every consumer?
Is it for every advertisement, is it for every representation?

(01:33:12):
Is it for every day on the website? Where is
it all of the above? But which case is going
to be astronomical? And then they can get additional damages,
which the Trump did. But what's even more surprising is
the way they went after Trump is the way they're
going after this meat packer. It's the damages are whatever
the Attorney General thinks they are and whatever the court

(01:33:35):
is willing to accept. It's not like a trial where
you go to trial and you prove damages that you
had your lost work or you were in the hospital
for twenty days. It's whatever the Attorney general thinks and
the judge things. That's why Trump got hit with four
hundred and sixty four million, and that's why these people
are Now let's get to the real story. The real
story is that right now they're about seventy five hundred

(01:33:57):
companies in the United States that are greenwashing every and
all of these environmental claims can be attacked. Now Here
comes the Biden administration to help everybody out. Last week,
the Security is an Exchange Commission issued in a final
rule on environmental claims. What the rule says is, you've

(01:34:18):
got to tell us everything you're doing. You've got to
tell us how much money you're going to spend. You've
got to tell us what you're reducing. Are you truly
reducing it? What do you do if the government changes
the law, they're making new guess and in essence, what
the law is saying is you are guilty of fraud

(01:34:38):
unless you can guess what's going to offend the consumer,
and then the damages take in and long term. I mean,
I was just as I was sort of looking at
things today randomly for the show. What hit me is
the environmentalists really want all meat and poultry out of
our environment. This is how you get it out. Everybody

(01:35:01):
is a fraudst Well, that's why this law is. This
law is beyond imagination. So now it's not just New York.
It's just that the SEC doesn't have the kind of
They can only get hundreds of thousands and maybe millions.
They can't get hundreds of millions. New York can get
hundreds of millions any corporation. Because my entire my article

(01:35:23):
started off boycott New York, and then I decided, now
it's really it's worse than that, because I was reading
a book on Ropes Pierre and he made a statement
during the French Revolution that we've got to find all
of our enemies. We've better find all of the enemies
of the revolution and kill them. And that's what they're doing.

(01:35:43):
They're going to find them in Any corporation that doesn't
go along with whatever they're saying will be subject to
one of these pieces of litigation. And right now the
companies are just setting themselves up on the altar, two
hundred of them. Just several weeks ago a climate pledge
that they were going to go net zero by twenty third.
So you've got two INDERD cases right there. And then

(01:36:05):
anyone else who files SEC filing. So Latitia James is
not going to have to do anything. All she has
to do is go to the SEC, pick up the documents,
go back to New York and file claims. She can
make so much money for the State of New York.
It's going to be beyond imagination.

Speaker 2 (01:36:21):
Well, but in the long run, it's really bad for
New York because you know, people are jittery, corporations are
jerry already because of the the Trump decisions, and that
I don't see the governor running over there to the
AG's offices saying time out, Letitia, you're gone too far.

(01:36:43):
I promised all the people this wouldn't happen to them.

Speaker 10 (01:36:47):
Yeah, well, I mean, you're asking a politician to be honest.
I mean, I'm not sure that. I'm not sure that's possible.
But what's so interesting is, excuse me. New York is
in population, but it's gaining so many immigrants that they
actually own on the census, may actually end up with
more congressional representatives. So we're going to be in a

(01:37:09):
position where the states that are losing the largest number
of real citizens who pay taxes may end up actually
with more congressional votes because that's where they're forcing all
of the all of the illegals to go. They're forcing
them into really three states, Illinois, California, and New York.

Speaker 2 (01:37:28):
So this is really politics. It has absolutely nothing to
do with the issue at hand. It has everything to
do with Trump, has everything to do with how do
we gain control? Doesn't it? I mean, William, this is
just diabolical.

Speaker 10 (01:37:45):
Well, think about the costs that are going to be
passed on to the consumer. I mean, think about me.
If every time they make an advertisement and it is
considered deceptive, they're either going to stop advertising, stop producing me,
or pass off all the chargers. So if there's an
now it's just beginning, because that's all this law is
going to do.

Speaker 1 (01:38:04):
And I don't know.

Speaker 10 (01:38:07):
I mean, I think we've all in the East, we've
given up on New York A That's that's not a question.

Speaker 2 (01:38:16):
Well, I think I think we've in the West given
up on New York. I think we've given up on
California too in some ways. And sadly, because we give up,
they win. Is there any way to fight back?

Speaker 10 (01:38:30):
Well, I mean, things are going to happen whether we
like it or not. And this sort of gets a
little bit to what I write about in the book.
The genesis of the book is really fairly simple. You've
got a federal government that is completely mismanaged, and we've
got a forty we've got a thirty four trillion dollar deficit,
which we all know that it was an Act that

(01:38:51):
all of that that money was spent by the last
seven presidents, So it's really been since nineteen eighty till
today that we've put ninety seven percent of our debt
on our children. So that's the first thing. At some
point in time, they're not going to be able to
pay their bills, and they're going to pay their bills
because they're going to print money, but they're not going
to be able to do everything they want. And one
of the things they do right now is they give

(01:39:13):
one point two trillion dollars to the states. That's about
forty percent of all the budgets in the states with
federal money to subsidize the state. What happens when the
federal government can't pay that money. The states right now
are implementing somewhere between one thousand and thirteen hundred federal programs,
and most of these federal programs are programs that the

(01:39:36):
federal government doesn't have the authority to do. But what
they do is they pay the states to do it.
So what happens, and that's why you have a lot
of programs is that the states don't care about. So
what happens when the federal government can't make this one
point two trillion dollars in payments, the states are going
to stop implementing federal programs. At that point in time,

(01:39:59):
the federal intory system starts to break apart because right
now the states, like, let's just take environment The states
implement about ninety seven percent somewhere in that area of
all environmental laws. They get paid about twenty five percent
of the value. Now the state's wanted environmental laws and
the Fed wants to pay for it. But what happens
when there's nothing? Does every state need to implement every

(01:40:21):
federal environmental law? And this federal government can't implement it
themselves because they don't have enough people and enough money.
So the devolution of power is going to happen, and
it's going to happen because the federal government is a pro.

Speaker 2 (01:40:33):
It's gotten out across the top of any bail draft
or introduced bill in our legislature. It talks about unfunded
mandates and these come down from the government. They do
pay for part of it, but they don't pay for
all of it. And we have a constitutional amendment this
is we won't we will not enforce unfunded mandates. So

(01:40:58):
I'm just one wondering if there are a lot of
states that are like that that have already put the
brakes on these unfunded mandates and said, we can't afford it,
and if you can't afford it, we're.

Speaker 10 (01:41:09):
Not going to do it more and more. I mean,
I think Utah just passed passed something in the same vein.
Most of the states in the East Coast take as
much money. I mean, just be honest, they take as
much money as they can possibly get. Some states like
South Carolina and Virginia get about seven to one in
terms of in taxes. A lot of the other states

(01:41:32):
don't gain as much. And I think the states have
to come to the conclusion that whatever they get in
federal money, it's costing them more, and they have to
begin understanding what is it that they're going to do.
Because the Constitution was never set up for the federal
government to amass more and more power. This has happened
over one hundred year period, and every time the federal
government has a mass more power, they've screwed it up.

(01:41:55):
And so if they can't manage it, then don't we
have to do something? And I think that that's really
what the issue is. Is and what I try to
do in my book Devolution of Power is to lay
out how do you move from a mismanaged government to
a more limited government. And once government is more limited,
it's actually more accountable. Yeah, should the federal government be doing?

(01:42:18):
You've got to identify what their powers. They need to
be a national defense, Oh great, we have a great border.
They need to be They need to have the military
being able to defend the country. Oh, we're doing a
great job there. We're falling behind both Russia and China.
I mean, we can go down the list as to
what's happening, and the major responsibilities are going by the wayside,

(01:42:39):
and the other ones that they shouldn't even be involved
in because they don't even have authority over are being
the ones where the money's coming. So this is the
situation we're in, and we've got a sort of stark.

Speaker 1 (01:42:49):
Movement of our guess this segment is our friend Wim
Kovax and he's the author of a new book, and
willim hold that book up and hold it up long
enough for people to be able to see it, Devolution
of Power rolling back the federal state to preserve the republic. William,

(01:43:09):
thank you for holding through that break. We appreciate your time,
great article A New York reign of terror and corporations,
and you kind of equate this with the French Revolution,
and you write in your article, the most studied reign
of terror was also state sanctioned violence during the French Revolution.

(01:43:30):
You know, William, when people hear the term French Revolution,
I think they inaccurately equate it with the American Revolution.
That when I when I look at the reign of
terror that took part during the French Revolution, that never

(01:43:51):
happened in the American Revolution. Our revolution was to throw
out a tyrannical government, but the French Revolution was more
or less to get rid of all our enemies? Am
I right in that?

Speaker 10 (01:44:05):
Or how would you the enemies of the revolution? And
right now Trump is the biggest enemy of the revolution, right.

Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Well, that started out. Leticia jameson. It started out. She
ran on the idea that she was going to get Trump.
She ran, she campaigned on the idea of getting Trump.
Looks like she's pretty successful at that. My fear is

(01:44:36):
that this is just a step for her for bigger
and bigger, more ambitious political offices governor, senator, maybe even
run someday for president. You're writing your article how she's
now reaching out to other companies. You mentioned this meatpacking

(01:44:57):
plant who is said by twenty forty to reduce ore
are our footprint to zero. Isn't that? What isn't that
what the left one here from corporations that their goals
are to eliminate their their carbon footprint. But yet this
organ this company is actually being punished because Lutitia James

(01:45:22):
says there's no way they can meet this goal. So
these other companies that are going out there and saying, well,
we're going to get there by twenty thirty, aren't they
setting them setting their own heads up on the guillotine.

Speaker 10 (01:45:39):
Oh absolutely, I mean that's not even crazy. That's not
a close call. But what's so interesting is Letitia Games
started it. But it's really going to be the SEC
that finishes because they're going to have the data, nationwide
data that shows who's who they think is lying. But
I think you got to go to the next step.

(01:46:00):
It's not even a question of putting everybody to the guillotine.
The next question. The next step is they want to
get Let's look at their long term goal. They want
to do two things. First of all, First of all,
they want to get rid of meat and poultry, and
I think that's the longer range goal, because every time
you eliminate one of these companies, you get closer to
that goal. And so I think that that's important. But

(01:46:22):
the other thing that's important is they want to control
over society, and these relations give them the control that
they need. And that's that to me, is far more
frightening than a couple hundred million dollars in times.

Speaker 1 (01:46:35):
Well, you know, when you talk about getting rid of society,
I look at it as getting rid of Western culture.
And the only the only thing I think that benefits
is the Eastern culture, meaning China. I mean, this is
a deliberate destruction of the Western economy. This is going

(01:46:59):
to make the Western economy subservient to China. Am I
seeing this correct?

Speaker 10 (01:47:06):
Yes, China's exempt. China's exempt from all these rules. It's
quote unquote a developing nation, even though it's the second
largest economy in the world.

Speaker 1 (01:47:16):
This is this is incredible, you know, And Kevin Leary,
you know who Kevin Leary is, Shark Tank. All right,
he's mister wonderful and shark Tank. A few weeks ago,
we played a video Kevin Leary is saying companies are crazy,
absolutely crazy to do business in New York. But if

(01:47:40):
these laws that Leticia James wants to work by, can
that also affect companies outside the state of New York?
In other words, can Chi goo for companies in Ohio
and Michigan, and in Ohio even though they don't have
a footprint in New York itself.

Speaker 10 (01:48:01):
If they do business in New York, she can go
after them.

Speaker 1 (01:48:06):
So this can affect any company anywhere at any time.

Speaker 10 (01:48:10):
The real I mean, if you really, if a company
really was concerned about this, it's up to a business
in New York. That's really what That's what You'd have
to be able to have no fingerprints or no footprints
in New York in order for them not to have jurisdiction.
Once you begin selling the product and advertising in the state,
they've got control over you.

Speaker 1 (01:48:30):
That is incredible.

Speaker 10 (01:48:31):
And I would every every fortune five hundred company probably
has offices or operations in New York.

Speaker 1 (01:48:39):
Do you think this makes Letitia James the target a
target of what assassination?

Speaker 10 (01:48:47):
I don't have any idea. I don't usually deal in
those worlds.

Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Right I know that's a broad, broad term out there,
but you know there are people out there that I
think that she's going to hurt. You know. I one
of the things I like to do in the late
evening to relax a little bit, to go to sleep
by his American greed. And it seems like I've seen

(01:49:12):
stories on there where companies have went after their their
enemies with not just lawsuits, not just uh, social attacks
and media attacks, but physical attacks.

Speaker 2 (01:49:28):
I think that this lady, I think that this.

Speaker 1 (01:49:31):
Lady should get security forces. I'm not going to ask
you to comment on that. That's just my silly, silly comment.

Speaker 10 (01:49:40):
But Robert Kennedy junior security, well that that.

Speaker 1 (01:49:46):
In and of itself is another another uh. By the way,
Robert Kennedy come out today and Sharon and I talked
about this in the early part of the show. He
has h he hasn't announced that Nicole Shanahan is going
to be his vice presidential running mate. I wanted to
see if you had any reflection of that, if you

(01:50:09):
knew of anything about her, because Sharon and I did
a little look at her Wikipedia. She seems to be
an environmental wacko of the leftist degree.

Speaker 10 (01:50:21):
Well, I mean, from his point of view, she's got
a tremendous amount of money to finance the campaign, and
she produced an excellent ad for the Super Bowl, So
you know, there was really a good ad. People didn't
like it, but it was really hit a very effective
ad to people who saw it and were a little
bit open minded. So you know, he did what he
needed to do. He picked someone who can finance him

(01:50:43):
getting on the ballot in the various states.

Speaker 1 (01:50:47):
Do you think that people like Robert Kennedy Nicole Shanahan
fall into write in step with what Letitia James is
wanting to do?

Speaker 10 (01:51:00):
Now, if you listen to a if you listen to Kennedy,
he's not nearly as as crazy as a Letitia James.
I mean, he's he's I mean, I'm not saying he's
not an environmentalist, but there are a lot of environmentalists
who made major contributions to society. It's when you get
to be really so far out that you're talking about
the disease of the of the humans are a cancer

(01:51:24):
on the human race, some of the remarks that have
been made by some of the wackos. Kennedy is far
from that, far from that, and In fact, I think
if you look at like in COVID, he was took
some fairly courageous stands on vaccines. He's stating some courageous stands.
So you've got to really look at the entire record.
He's I mean, he doesn't go into my wacko category.

(01:51:48):
Joe Biden does, Letitia James does, but he doesn't make it.
He's not that far.

Speaker 1 (01:51:53):
How do you reel in somebody like Letitia James or
is she just she has no no barriers?

Speaker 10 (01:52:02):
Well, you've got a problem in New York. You've got
to heavily controlled democratic legislature, you've got a democratic governor.
She's not going to be impeached. I think that some
of her actions as she's using this section sixty three
twelve probably violate, especially the Eighth Amendment to the Constitution
and unjust fines. I think they've got to go after

(01:52:24):
her and cut off her legal ability to bring these cases.

Speaker 1 (01:52:27):
When you say they have to go after her, who
were they? Who the intensional fortitude to be they?

Speaker 10 (01:52:34):
Whoever gets hurt? And right now the scope of who's
going to get hurt expanding rapidly, and somebody's going to
sit there and say, wait a second, this law is
unconstitutional because it gives far too much power to these
people to set what our damages are. Think about it.
The attorney general gets to set there's no limits, no discretion,

(01:52:55):
and no standards for what she thinks is the harm,
and the judge he gets it too, and they can
both compromise us to what it is. There's never been
a system in the world, even I doubt even in
Russia that you have, at least in Russia by one person,
it's just done. And over here you've got two people
who can compromise us to what someone is and it

(01:53:16):
supposedly due process. She's got so many constitutional problems with
what she is doing, with the fact that there are
no standards, there's no way to judge a crime. There's
a vagueness issue. I mean, we can go down the list.
I think somebody is just going to have to go
after her extraordinarily aggressively. And the other thing is because
it's a state action. I'm just going to say this
on the air and people are going to laugh. I

(01:53:37):
think it's civil rights violation Intersection nineteen eighty three, and
I think they can go after her for civil rights issues.

Speaker 1 (01:53:46):
In your article, and I'll read from your article. The
list of New York corporate frosters is long and growing.
In addition to the SEC's confession file, over two hundred companies,
most with operations in the are collectively pledged to might
mitigate one point ninety eight billion metric tons of carbon

(01:54:09):
emissions annually by twenty forty from the twenty to twenty baseline.
This is what I'm getting to the list of these companies.
These companies are some of the biggest in the world. Amazon, Proctor, Gamble,
HP Salesforce, Mohawk Group, Crown Holdings. I would think, I

(01:54:34):
would think Letitia James william is going to be making
some big time enemies there.

Speaker 10 (01:54:43):
Here's where I think you and I may have a
little bit of a disagreement on what she does. Okay,
right now, I mean, you know, six years ago, while
I was representing the business community on a lot of
these issues, and we had no problems fighting with the
Republicans the Democrats to preserve for enterprise, we had no
problems at all, and most of the time we were successful.

(01:55:08):
Things of the power the reward system has changed. When
you dump two three four trillion dollars in subsidies into
the business community. You've changed. Like, let's just ask a
simple question. Where does Elon Musk make his money? Does
he make it from selling cars? No, he makes it
from selling credit car bing credits. And why does he

(01:55:31):
do it? It's basically a huge wealth transfer set up
by the federal government to say you can build all
the cars you want because we like those cars, and
you can make money by selling your credits to them.
It doesn't matter that the car can't run in the
coal that none of that stuff matters. What matters is
And so I think where you and I might come
to a disagreement is that we're in a situation where

(01:55:55):
the where the corporations get so much money they can't
afford to turn down on the subsidies. And we're going
to you know, I'm going to get to one thing,
and I know we don't have time. It's probably a
low level issue, but it's it's tax credits. And the
problem with tax credits is tax credits don't go through
the appropriation process. So when you have a tax credit,

(01:56:16):
you don't even know what you're giving away. People just
come and take it. Excuse me, people just come and
take it and it just goes up and up and up.
And so for example, when let's say when the Inflation
Reduction Acting them estimated the tax credits, we're going to
be about four hundred billion. It's still a lot of
money in my mind. But right now they're averaging about
one point two trillion. And that's a report out of

(01:56:40):
one of the New York banks. So this is what's happening.
American business media is very happy taking the subsidies. It's
like the guy in clockwork Orange at the end is
you know, as long as they're giving him everything he wants,
he's very happy. And that's what's happening. They're very happy.
We're making the assumption they care about America. They're making

(01:57:00):
more profits with the subsidies than they are probably selling products.
So we've got a there's a different problem that's going on.
And then you bring in where the Chinese are coming
from and everything else, and you've got a huge problem
because they've got too much of a steak in China.
Biden has the steak in China, but so does the
American business community. So let's start being honest with ourselves.
We've got a real problem here because there aren't a

(01:57:22):
lot of people who are saying, well, you know, we
really support the average America. The average American. Look they did,
I'm one of them. We just want to be left alone.
We just want to go do our own thing. We
want to be able to go to the store, go
to the movies, go out for dinner, go to the playground,
you know, go to a game one. So, I mean,
this isn't a big deal. We just don't want to

(01:57:43):
be controlled. And the corporations have moved into the control
business because they're helping the government control.

Speaker 1 (01:57:52):
Well, wait, I don't know that we disagree as much
as you know what. You probably know more about it
than I do. And I always admit here under Conservative Commandos,
I'm not the brightest bulble in the tree. I'm just
a stalled that stirs the drink. But I know who
the bright bulbs are, and one of them is Willim Kovex. William.
We want to thank you so much for joining us

(01:58:14):
here on Conservative Commandos. Willim, hold up that book again
and please pitch it.

Speaker 10 (01:58:20):
It's embarrassing.

Speaker 1 (01:58:21):
Don't be embarrassed. You're among friends.

Speaker 10 (01:58:25):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (01:58:27):
Devolution of power rolling back the federal state to preserve
the republic, preserve the republic. That's what we do here.
That's her goal here, that's her mission here on Conservative Commandos, William,
So don't be embarrassed to promote. Please, thank you, William.
Give out the pertinent information. How people can follow you

(01:58:49):
read the things that's right by your books.

Speaker 10 (01:58:52):
Well, my books can be bought Amazon or Barnes and Noble,
wherever people buy them. Anymore, people can they go to
my website, which is Reform Thecacistocracy dot Com, my emails
there they can. They can write to me anytime. I'll
try to write back whenever I can. Most of the
times when I write articles for other publications, I usually

(01:59:14):
have an email address that they can write me on,
so I'm very accessible. That's not really what the issue is.
The issue is my bigger issues. People don't read not enough.

Speaker 1 (01:59:26):
I agree with you on that. I think your other
issue is cacistocracy. I keep telling you, you know, the
more and more we bring you on the show, the
more and more I can get to practice it. Eventually, Eventually, William,
I'm going to get it down back. I promise you.

Speaker 10 (01:59:46):
There are many days that I don't There are many
days I wish I had not used that term, but
the more I think about it, our government fits that
term perfectly.

Speaker 1 (01:59:55):
Thanks very much, ram Kovacs. We really appreciate you. Jo
here in the Conservative Commanders one more time. That website.

Speaker 10 (02:00:04):
Www. Reform the Cacistocracy dot com. Cacistocracy is k A
K I S t O c R A C Y.

Speaker 1 (02:00:14):
Ram. Again, thank you so much. Take care, goblets, but
for right now we are out of time. That means
we gotta run and we gotta go. Take care, gobless,
and we'll see you tomorrow and that'll be on TV
and on radio.

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