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Speaker 1 (00:20):
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from the Michael Studios, the Mysture Studios of the AU
and TV Networking. Joining me today as she does a
couple of times a week, is the Patriot from the
battle born State, the battleground State, the Silver State of Nevada,
and that is Sharon Angle. Sharon, welcome back, Welcome back
to Conservative Commanders.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
Thanks Rick, it's great to be here again.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Actor in Iowa, in Iowa of all places. Apparently there's
this guy who's been acting as a school superintendent and
maybe maybe you can help help us with this story
that he's an illegal alien. He's in this country illegally.
He got a job as a school superintendent. They call
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him doctor, and now they're not even sure he's a doctor.
So Sharon fill us in on what's going on. In
Iowa of all places.
Speaker 2 (01:39):
Well, it's interesting he is uh. I won't call him doctor.
They call him doctor as you said. Ian Andre Roberts,
who is the head of the des Moines Public Schools.
He was arrested after evading officers and leading them on
a pursuit. So he's in a way, so there's there
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is an interesting thought here. This Roberts is a native
of Guyana and a former Olympic runners and he's been
under a deportation order since May of twenty twenty four,
so he's known this was coming. But the Ice des
Moines today arrest Des Moines. I'm sorry that the s
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is science for silent for all of those inn or
who know Des Moines. I didn't mean to sult Moine.
Ice des Moines today arrested Ian Andre Roberts and criminal
illele alien from Guyana and possession of get this, a
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loaded handgun, three thousand dollars in cash, a fixed blade
hunting knife and at the time of his arrest, Roberts
was working as superintendent of the the Moines Public Schools
despite being an illegal alien with a final order of
removal and no work authorization. He fled when the agents
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identified themselves, and he reportedly sped away in his vehicle
before abandoning it on the roadside. Iowa State Patrol assistant
in the canine unit tracked him down in a wooded
area about two hundred yards from the car. The search
for Roberts' vehicle. Of the search of his vehicle uncovered
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a loaded handgun, this hunting knife, three thousand dollars in cash,
and they said that why would they have why would
a sitting superintendent of schools have those kinds of weapons
in cash? And then they noted that Roberts had a
prior weapons arrest from twenty to twenty. They don't know
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how that actually has turned out, what the end of
that case is. But this district that he's over, that
he's the superintendent of, educates about thirty thousand students and
the parents and taxpayers, of course, have been really upset
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about this, and rightly so.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
I'm upset about it, and I don't even live there.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
And so Roberts first came to the US in nineteen
ninety nine on a student visa to attend Saint John's University.
They say he overstayed his visa and was ordered to
remove from the country. In May of twenty twenty four,
and then his attempt to reopen the case in April
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was denied by a judge in Dallas, leaving the deportation
order and effect. And despite the ruling, Roberts remained in Iowa,
drawing a public sound ullery while running the school's largest
school district. Jackie Norris, the president of the Des Moines
School Board, so this is the folks that hired him,
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announced that associate Superintendent Matt Smith would assume the district
on an interim basis, and he says, we have no
confirmed information on why doctor Roberts is being detained or
no potential steps what. They don't know why. I mean,
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there's an order out, a deportation order, and they don't
know why. They say that the arrest adds to a
mounting concern about illegal immigrants occupying positions of authority in
public institutions. Well, we report it here on Conservative Commandos
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about a confessed illegal alien in the Minnesota legislature. She
told them I'm an illegal alien. And so it is
more prevalent now as people are being found by eyes.
And yet you know, all all the school officials, the
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public school officials had to say about this was that
that they had replaced him on an interim basis and
that they didn't know what was what the problem was.
Don't they vet these folks that they hire?
Speaker 1 (06:36):
Sharon, Sharon, you were a teacher, right, Yes, you were
on a school board? Right?
Speaker 3 (06:43):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
What's his superintendent do?
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Well, he's in charge. He's in charge of all the
education in your district.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
Right now, I'd like to know how wonderful these kids
in the Des Moines School District have done in the
years since he's been superintendent. More importantly, was he the
best person they could have found? Please tell me he
was the best person he could have found. Tell me
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he wasn't hired because he's black, because he's from Guyana,
because he speaks with an accent, because of all the
DEI crab. Please tell me, Sharon, he was hired because
at the time he was the best, most qualified person
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there was to be in charge of the education of
the what did you say, thirty thousand students in the
Des Moines, Iowa School District. Please tell me, Sharon, he
was the best that that they could find.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
I can tell you that, Rick, I can't tell you
that because that is what this smack. It was total DEI.
It was total uh political correctness. It was we're going
to hire this guy because he fits our agenda, not
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because not because he was qualified. We haven't heard any
qualified qualifications really for this guy. There's nothing out there
that says he was qualified. We know he overstated his visa.
Where where were Where was ice? Then?
Speaker 1 (08:36):
So here you've got a guy who's ahead of all
the education in Des Moines, Iowa. And you know, you
would think he would be a figurehead or role model,
an example for the kids to follow. And here's a
guy who broke the laws, who knew he was here illegally.
I don't know the gun. You said he was arrested
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before in gun charges? Did he he was found with gun,
found with three thousand dollars found with the knife? Was
he going hunting? I don't know. Was he going hunting?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Why don't we have these kinds of weapons? I mean,
they don't allow weapons at school?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well that's another.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
I mean, but I know that they don't allow him.
But this guy's carrying, he's backing, you know. And they
said that they revoked the license, the license that I'm
not clear on what the license means.
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Was that driver's license.
Speaker 2 (09:38):
It was, it's it's Roberts's board of here, it is
Board of Educational Examiners had revoked Roberts's license to practice
in the state. But he was there, He was there,
and he was there the practice in the state. How
did he get that line as a l legal alien?
(10:03):
What is the due diligence here? When you have a
school district that's hiring illegal aliens to work for them
at the highest office? How about that? How many teachers
do we have?
Speaker 1 (10:22):
How many higher because of the color of their skin,
because of where they came from, because of an accent
that they use, who are unqualified to be teachers? Again, again,
you've been a teacher. You've been on the school board
whose job is a hire teachers? Whose job is it
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to interview.
Speaker 2 (10:46):
The superintendent, the superintendent and then the school board. The
superintendent makes the recommendation, the school board hires, and there
is a vetting process. There should be a vetting process.
But honestly, Rick, we fired a fellow for cheating on
tests who, as a teacher, his students weren't doing very well,
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so he gave them all the answers to a achievement
test that kids all got the same answer wrong on
the test, so we knew that he had had given
him a wrong answer is what he'd done, and he
caught himself. We fired him, and you know, he was
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hired in Idaho. We fired, I fired in Idaho, and
they when they didn't, they didn't even call to ask
us why we'd fired this fellow. Why they didn't make
the background check. That's what is very concerning is that
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this obviously was done without any background check. All they
have to do is just go look looking, and pretty
soon you start to find out this guy's here illegally.
Ice found it, But why didn't they find it sooner?
Because they didn't have a president who was directing Ice
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to do this. It was politically correct. Just just ignore it.
And that's what has happened here, and that's why we're
seeing this, this person being allowed to have the highest
office in a school district. And it just makes you
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wonder how many more will Ice find as they begin
to round up these illegal aliens and probably was on
their radar because of this arrest.
Speaker 1 (12:53):
Well, now he's got more churches, he's got another gun charge,
he's got a he's avoiding arrest, you know, avoiding leaving
the scene, you know, resisting arrest. You know, he has
more charges. See, that's that is the the one thing
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I can't really totally wrap my head around ICE is
going after these criminals. Now, yeah, a lot of these
criminals have committed more crimes since they've been here in
the United States. So what are we going to do.
We're going to imprison them. In other words, give him
another three hots in the cot. It costs about fifty
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thousand dollars a year to incarcerat a prisoner. We're going
to We're going to keep them in prison, keep them incarcerated,
keep supplying them with food and shelter and medical care
and all that while they're a prisoner. And then and
then finally we get rid of them when there are
sentences up. In the meantime, how long are there another
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five years, another ten years? And you know what the
problem is, God forbid another five or ten years. Another
Democrat doesn't get in office and say, you know what,
all these illegal aliens who have been in prison or
waiting deportation can now stay.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
He's been here since nineteen ninety nine, hellegal.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
But out hick their butts out.
Speaker 2 (14:26):
You need to go home to Guyana. We know where he's.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Well, I think we should report it. We do, we do,
we do so. I do believe that what President Trump
should do with the the dictator's, prime minister's presidents of
all these countries. You say to him, you know what,
we're sending these people back to him, be imprisoned in
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your jail, and if you let them out, we're just
going to put one hundred percent tariff on everything, everything
coming out of your into the United States. You know what, Sharon,
I would rather see them incarcerated in a prison in Guyana,
or a prison in Venezuela, or a prison in Colombia
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or a Peru, or in Mexico or Guatemala or whatever.
I'd rather see them, Well, not Guatemala and not till
you're out of there. But you know what I'm saying,
I send them back to their home countries to be imprisoned.
Do not imprison them here because when a Democrat gets in,
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there's going to be this massive forgiveness and amnesty. I'll
tell you what, s there's no amnesty for running through
a heartbreak, which is what we're up against here on
the Conservative Commandos. Imrick Trader, my coast is Sharon Angele
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Speaker 1 (17:36):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders with
Sharon Angle. And you're Shirley Rick Trader, coming to you
from the My Pillar Studios, the My Store studios of
the AU n TV network. What else is on your
radar screen? Kit oo?
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Do you know? I had a very stunning thing happened
to me. I went to speak to a group, and
a lady came to me and said, you know, I
was a registrar or a voting an election board person
in a lower income school in twenty ten, and I
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kept watching people come in and they had a little
piece of paper, and when I get close enough to
see what was on that paper, they'd tied it. So
at one point a lady said to me, I can't
get this machine to take my vote every time I vote,
it's which is the vote? And she was in tears.
(18:34):
So my friend said, let me help you with that.
She did, and she says, why are you crying? And
she says, well, I was told I have to vote
for Harry Reid because if I don't vote for Harry Reid,
I won't get my welfare check on time. I won't
get my welfare check at all. So, you know, there's
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this lie that goes on with these folks. And she said, well,
what's on this piece of paper? And the lady showed
her the piece of paper.
Speaker 1 (19:08):
It was a slate.
Speaker 2 (19:10):
I had Harry Reid's name at the top. And she said,
I don't want to vote for him, but I have
to vote for him because if I don't, they said
they would know and I would get my check and
they would know and they I will get a check.
And so my friend made the announcement throughout the whole
polling place that no one knows your vote. It's confidential.
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We live in a free country. As far as we
know is still live in a free country. And they
can't track your vote. They don't know who you voted for.
And so you are free to vote for whomever you
want to vote for, and they completed the vote. Then
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she and this lady completed it the way she wanted
to vote. And my friend said, can I have that
piece of paper? And she says no. We were told
not to give this, not to let it out of
our site, not to give anyone, no matter who asked.
So there is this thing that goes on. And she said,
where did you get this slip of paper? And she
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said at the welfare office.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
So oh wow.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
So you know that at least during that time, there
was a movement of foot by the Democrats to pass
out that slate in the places where they knew their
voters were going to congregate. And it was a shocking revelation.
I knew the slates were out there. I knew that
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they were passing them out at the casinos, but I
didn't know until today that they were using government offices
to pass out these slates of the candidates that they
wanted their voters to vote for. So let's be very
clear on this with everyone. They're buying the vote, and
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they buy it with yours and my tax dollars. They
buy it with our the pork money That's what the
Democrats are asking for is bring home the bacon pork money.
Give us the money so we can go buy our voters.
And that's what they do. They go back to their
districts with this money that they got in the appropriation bill,
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which is what we're really talking about here, is this
passage of an appropriation bill that funds the government. But
in that funding there will be extra things, and we
call that pork. We call that the extra things that
are not, as you say, not budgeted, just for me
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to take home to my constituency so they'll be happy
with me and vote for me again. And that's what
this is about, is buying the vote, which is illegal,
actually to buy the boat. And yet they found the loophole,
the loophole to getting someone into a voting booth with
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the promise of payment.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
A promise that your welfare check will be cut off. Yeah, Sharon,
please tell me that there was an investigation into this.
Who was handing out these slips of paper? Who is
telling the Sharon, doesn't shake your head, No, please tell
me there was an investigation.
Speaker 2 (22:38):
I'm going to tell you the end of the story.
My friend went and told her story to her boss,
the registrar voters. She told him what had happened, and
he said, oh, that's not widespread. I'm sure that you misunderstood.
She said, no, I didn't misunderstood. I stand I lot
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of the paper. I talked to the lady. There were
lots and lots of these people standing in line at
my polling place with these pieces of paper, and they
were not letting me see them. They didn't want me
to see them. And so she told her story over
and over again, and the next election cycle. Understand that
my friend had been working election board election cycles for years,
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over thirty years. She had been voluntary working that next one.
They didn't call her. They didn't want her on the
election board. Is right, so she has. She said to me,
I have been blackballed from elections for working the elections
because I dared to say.
Speaker 1 (23:44):
This is not right.
Speaker 2 (23:47):
Oh my gosh, So no investigation. Actually the opposite. And
that's what we continue to find, isn't it that when
someone stands up for goodness, righteousness, they become the bad guy.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
They become the bad guy. Absolutely indeed, Well, I again,
thank god we have this opportunity, Sharon, to do this
show on the networks that we do, that we're able
to relay this information so that if someone out there
listening to watching the show, goes into their holing place
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and if they see in irregularity, what can they do, Sharon.
Speaker 2 (24:32):
They should they should continue to report it, even though
that outcomes are not what we want them to be.
It doesn't mean that we stop talking about it. If
we stop saying, if we stop talking, if we stop
running for office, if we stop doing anything that we
know will ensure our freedoms, then they win. The other
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side wins, and even though we may may not win
this round, we continue to fight.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
It seems like, Sharon, whenever we stop one of their tricks,
they come up with two others. But what happens is
their tricks a lot of times they get like vote
harvesting or or early voting. You know, some come, my gosh,
it's it's October first. It's October first. Election day isn't
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for another month, but they're in Virginia, they're already voting.
They're already voting. They come up with you shut one
things down, Sharon, they open two more.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Up, and you complain that it's illegal to do that,
and they in their next legislative session, make it legal.
And I'm speaking of of ballot harvesting and of mail
in ballots. Those things were unheard of. And then we said,
wait a minute, that's an irregularity. That's that shouldn't be happening.
(26:08):
Oh oh, well, we'll just change the law. It's not
we'll abide by the law. We'll change the law. And
look at where those laws are being changed. They're being
changed in battleground states, in places where the outcome of
the election generally is decided by a very few states,
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because that's why we call them battleground states. So that's well, yeah,
that was an eye opener to me. And that's just
more things coming forward from that twenty ten election. You
know that the biggest question that I had to answer
after that election was did Harry Reid steal the election?
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And I have that have written that book on page
I answered that question.
Speaker 1 (27:00):
But anyway, so if you want the answer, get the
book right, right.
Speaker 2 (27:05):
And you can go to my website vote shairanangle dot
com and get that and get that book right.
Speaker 1 (27:11):
We're fighting in another battle here. It's the battle of
the clock. That means it is time for us to
take a break and you are listening to and watching
The Conservative Commandos with shar An Angle. I'm Rick Trader.
Good nowhere. We'll be back right after this break with
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Speaker 1 (30:53):
And Welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders for
Sharon Angle on Rick Trader coming to you from the
Mill the studios in My Store studios of the aun
TV Network program. Note, right after this segment, we will
be playing some of our best of interviews here on
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great talk, conversation and topics with our guests. What's going on, kiddo.
Speaker 2 (31:22):
I think we all kind of suffer from in some ways.
If you have WI out there that's doing a look
at you right, let's look at look at you. I
know I get looked at by Wikipedia.
Speaker 1 (31:44):
I'm going to go there right now, okay.
Speaker 2 (31:47):
And that the issue with Wikipedia is that they only
take their news, their articles, their facts from certain sources.
They don't really allow other sources. So it's not that
you're going to get a top unbiased view of a
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person from their Wikipedia page.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yes, yes, Alaen.
Speaker 2 (32:21):
So so we're we're we're looking at Wikipedia. And I
have to give Tucker Carlson a shout out for forgetting
this guy to talk about it. He says, uh that
this fellow, his name is Sanger. He says that we
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have certain lack listed sources, which means you cannot source
to these folks. You can't source to bright bart News,
the Daily Call of the Epic Times, Fox News, the
New York Post, or the Federalists.
Speaker 1 (32:59):
Those are do they all have in common? What do
they all have? Comment?
Speaker 2 (33:04):
Okay? And then there's some that are red coated that
maybe but are probably not Blaze news, Catholic, hierarchy, CounterPunch
in the collar, so they they you can't use these
as sourcing. However, this is their blacklist. However, the ones
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that we would never source because they lie. New York Times, yes,
Washington Posts of course, CNN, certainly, the Nation, Mother Jones
and glad.
Speaker 1 (33:42):
Gel A A B.
Speaker 2 (33:44):
They're approved and they have a full green light. Right,
this is this is what this sanger says. These are
all green lit and fully green lit. Don't worry worry
about that. That's where you're going to get your news
on Wikipedia. So we always wondered how come Wikipedia is
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so slanted? And also when you have something that you say, well,
that's not quite right, you can't get it changed because
you're citing a source that's been blacklisted. One of those
fully green light generally reliable is a Southern poverty law
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center and We've done several shows on them, and they're
hateful white national you know, they are something else the
way that they talk about other folks. The Southern Poverty
Law Center targeted are labeled, I shouldn't say targeted, but
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it's kind of a targeting turning point. USA is a
hateful white nationalist friendly movement. Who's grow founder Charlie Charlie Kirk,
you know, he's chief among them. So it's just amazing
to me that whenever you google something, what comes up
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first it's the Wikipedia on them? How can we how
can we trust them? They have also put other folks
on besides Charlie Kirk, into these categories that we say,
(35:35):
what are you talking about that? Charlie Kirk's not racist.
He goes everywhere and he talks about everything. But no,
they they take their news. Wikipedia takes their news from
these biased sources. And so to trust Wikipedia is to
(36:02):
we've wondered, We've wondered, where did these people get their
their news, Where do they source their opinions? Where does
the left lean on for their facts? Well it's Wikipedia.
And now we know exactly where Wikipedia leans, and that
(36:24):
is to the New York Times, all those places where
we say, these guys lie, there's no there's no truth there,
and they have actually blackballed or blacklisted or red line
the places where we feel like there might be actually
some truth coming out.
Speaker 1 (36:46):
Well, Sharon, have you ever gone on your Wikipedia but.
Speaker 2 (36:48):
You have, Yes, I have.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
I'm looking at it now and I was going to
ask you, where are any falsehoods that is on your
Wikipedia page? Things that are untrue about Wikipedia. One thing
is missing here on your Wikipedia page, the fact that
you're cocosed on the conservative commandos. That's not here. That's
(37:18):
got to be corrected. Sharon, Well, I can't. Well you can't.
You can go on. I'm looking at this. There's a
place to.
Speaker 2 (37:27):
Edit, right, but when you edit it, they take it
right off.
Speaker 1 (37:34):
Really you've tried it.
Speaker 2 (37:36):
I have, because there's some simple things that are wrong
there over there under my picture. I would update that picture.
By the way, that picture is over fifteen years old,
but it says right down there preceded by Ernie Adler.
(37:58):
I I took the seat from a woman named Joan Lambert,
not Ernie Adler. So that's just completely wrong. Ernie Adler
may have had it before Joan Lambert, but certainly that
needs to be updated at the very least. Just look
down there for personal details. It says my name is
(38:21):
Sharon E. Laane Angel, which is true, but my first
name is built in two rs.
Speaker 1 (38:26):
Not one.
Speaker 2 (38:28):
Just a simple thing, you know, just simple things that
I've tried to go in and say, you know, this
is just you're not correct here, and yet I can't
get it done. When I go into edit, they take
it off. They will not accept my edit. Wonderful, and
(38:48):
so it's not a matter of just editing. You have
to be a editor that they approve. I guess anyway,
I've tried. I've tried. There's other things. I mean, if
you read through this you will see the left bias
(39:11):
on it. And there's an interesting thing. It says that
I'm a perennial candidate. So I thought, I wonder what
that perennial candidate means, and so I clicked on it
to see what their definition was. And perennial candidate is
a political candidate who frequently runs for elected office, but rarely,
(39:32):
if ever wins. Well that's not true. I've won many elections.
In fact, I've won more than i've lost, So I
don't think i'm a perennial candidate under their definition. So
you know, just there the way that they describe a person,
they use words that give a a biased or a
(39:57):
false way of thinking about someone. There's just so much
there that I would I would say, yeah, this needs
a real rewrite, but can't touch it. Can't touch it.
Our good friend Dana Allen has actually started a wiki
(40:22):
alternative because of this kind of thing, and he's he
called me one day and he said, would you like
us to put the real truth out about you? And
I said, I would love that.
Speaker 1 (40:33):
That would be nice, especially since Dane as a friend.
Speaker 2 (40:37):
I would like that. I don't expecting it to lie
about me, but I don't expect him to twist it either, right,
you know, you just he just you just would like
to have the truth.
Speaker 1 (40:52):
Well, Sharon, let's get a break in here, and after
the break, we'll play some of the best of interviews
here on The Conservative Commander's radio show, Rick Trader. My
coz is Sharon Engel, and we'll be back with those
interviews right after this break.
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Speaker 1 (42:42):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders Radio
Show with Sharon Angle and yours truly, Rick Trader, coming
to you from the my Pillar studios, of my store
studios of the au N TV network. And Sharon, a
longtime friend has come to visit us today, and please
make that introduction.
Speaker 2 (43:01):
That's a great honor to introduce Paul Dreason, who's senior
policy advisor for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow Fact
see fact and author of articles and books on energy,
environmental and human rights issues. Paul, Welcome back to the
Conservative Commandos Radio Show.
Speaker 8 (43:20):
I'll always love being with you guys, always do well.
Speaker 2 (43:25):
We love having you, and you know I Saturday, I
got to go to a celebration in a park, a
city park, and there was all kinds of stuff there,
very interesting bunch group of people and they were celebrating
Earth Day and saving the planet. It was interesting to
(43:50):
see what they had displayed out there. And one of
the things that they thought were important that I would like,
that I would like, So I guess I want to
talk to you about that. Is that the celebration that
goes on all over the United States or all over
the world. Is this Earth Day a thing of global
(44:13):
renown or is it just a little thing that happened
in a park in Reno on Saturday.
Speaker 8 (44:20):
I can't answer that one. I know it's kind of
a worldwide phenomenon at this point, but how it is
celebrated or observed from place to place, I am not sure.
I'm stuck here in a little over Virginia. I grew
up in Wisconsin. I actually helped organize the very first
Earth Day nineteen seventy, my senior year in college, very
(44:42):
first earth Day in history. My college campus was going
to get involved and I was one of the organizers.
So it goes back a long way for me. But
I am more focused on people day these days. So
tell me some of the stuff that was in Reno.
I would love to hear so of the things that
they were trying to suggest we adopt or whatever they
(45:05):
had going on.
Speaker 2 (45:07):
Of course, there's all you know, they're regular things like
stop pollution, stop litter, clean up, the clean up the
planet stuff, and I think most of us could could
kind of agree with that. You know, we need to
have litter control and we don't want people putting stuff
into the air that we have to breathe. And yet
(45:31):
I think most of that has really stabilized. There isn't
much of that going on. Then then we got into
some really interesting stuff, getting in touch with the Earth
in you. And so now we've got h three que
(45:51):
and yoga and these these folks getting in touch with
the earth in you. That is interesting. I kind of
talked to those ladies that were promoting that, and they
speak a language that I don't understand, Paul. They have
(46:13):
terms and word uses that I've never heard before, and
I can't remember any of them because it was surprising
to me because I know, I must have just kind
of looked at her like, that's very puzzling. I've never
used that word in that way. And then there were
food trucks, but the food was not your vegan variety.
(46:38):
It wasn't it wasn't something that would make you healthy.
It was hot dogs and hamburgers and fried foods and churros,
and so I thought that was a little inconsistent with
the whole idea of you've got a clean planet, don't
you need a clean body to go with it? And here,
you know, we've got these folks telling you that they've
(46:59):
got body, soul, and spirit wrapped up in a in
one clean little yoga bag here for you. So I
guess that was what was kind of interesting to me,
as the inconsistency. Lots of crystals, lots of jewelry with
flowers in it, you know, things that reminded me a
(47:19):
lot Paul of the sixties, you know, flower power and
make love not war, hippie hippie even right down to
what they were wearing. You know, I thought, oh my gosh,
it's back to the future, right.
Speaker 8 (47:37):
Yeah, I mean it sounds like, yeah, it sounds like hippies.
And I love crystals. My geology major got me into
lots of different kinds of crystals, from quartz to everything else.
And I think certainly hot dogs are great churros. I
try to stay away from this these days, but it
(47:59):
sounds like they just never grew up and really started
to recognize what makes their lives possible. I mean, I
would take a walk around here I love the springtime
flowers and azaleas, especially around here, the apple blossoms, the
dogwoods and so forth. Getting in touch with Earth is
wonderful in that respect, taking hikes. I've spent some time
(48:20):
in Hawaii for the first time in twenty five years,
just a few months ago, and that was fantastic, getting
hiking in those hills there. But we need what comes
out of holes in the ground. You know, everything we
have in our lives comes out of a hole in
the ground, whether it's the corn we plant, the wheat
and so forth, the livestock we grow that requires grass
(48:44):
coming out of the ground, The rocks and minerals, the metals,
the oil and gas and coal that runs our power
plants and so forth, that builds everything, the trees that
we grow to build our homes. And the people that
are screaming Earth Day kind of don't want any of that.
They don't want it in their backyard, they don't want
any place in the United States. They want us to
(49:07):
import everything, but they think it comes magically to our
shores and doesn't involve any earth disturbance anyplace. So they're
living on a different planet.
Speaker 1 (49:16):
I think, do you see the pain look on my face, Paul,
the pain look on my face. And these are the
same people that want to drive electric cars.
Speaker 8 (49:27):
Yeah, they're the same people that want to run our
lives well.
Speaker 1 (49:30):
And you know, to run those electric cars, you need
copper nickel with him all that stuff that you have
to dig out of the ground, and you have to
dig massive amounts of dirt out of the ground to
get those few little precious metals as rare earth metals
to make their electric car run.
Speaker 8 (49:53):
So yeah, and the reality is you're absolutely on target.
The reality is you have to mine so somewhere between
one hundred if you're really lucky, and a thousand tons
of rock to get a ton of most of the metals,
and maybe it's ten thousand tons of rock to get
a ton of copper, cobalt, same thing. And the earth
(50:17):
disturbance involved is incredible. It takes ten to fourteen times
more metals and minerals to build wind turbans enough to
generate what you can get out of a power out
of a natural gas power plant. And that's based on
the supposed capacity factor for the wind turbans. The real
(50:43):
capacity is not what's on the name plate. They may
say they get twelve megawatts. In reality they get a
third of that or a fourth of that, So you
really end up needing twenty or thirty forty times more
raw materials to build those wind turbines for an x
amount of electricity then to build a gas fired power plant.
(51:06):
And then the crazy part is you still need the
gas fired power plant because seventy five percent of the
time you don't get any electricity at all from the
wind turbine. And then you don't want to just shut
down your life every few hours, every few minutes when
the wind isn't blowing. Then you need the gas fired
power plant to fill in all those gaps. So it's
(51:29):
an insane thing with the environmental impacts being monumental for
the thousands or millions of acres that you've got to
cover in wind turbines and solar panels, as well as
all the mining and processing. And where do you put
those thousand tons of rock that you dug out in
(51:50):
order to get the one ton of metals, or where
do you put all those wind turbine blades When the
turbine stops working, You can't recycle them. It dumped them
in a landfill Somewhere's the whole thing about renewable, green, clean,
sustainable energy is complete falsification. Ah. You know, the Biden
(52:16):
administration should have banned it all as misinformation or disinformation.
Speaker 2 (52:22):
And I think that that was what I was seeing
with the inconsistency there. The crystals were not sports crystals
or geodes or all of those things that we get
fascinated by. Even even they were not precious gems that
were mined. These were glass crystal something that's you know,
(52:44):
more of a prism situation, where you get the glass,
you you form the glass, you cut the glass, whatever,
So it's it's really a manufactured crystal rather than an
earth crystal.
Speaker 8 (52:59):
And the word you where do you get that one?
You have to get the sand, turn it into pureric.
Speaker 2 (53:08):
Talking about raw materials here, both, don't confuse me with
your raw materials. You know that that's kind of the
inconsistency that I saw. Even the little the pretty little
earrings with the the flowers inside were inside a glass
case with a metal uh finding on it. But of
(53:34):
course nobody thought about I needed to get that out
of the ground, any of that. It was all just
go down to Walmart and buy some of these things
and make my jewelry. So that was an inconsistency, Paul,
that we never I didn't see them thinking past in
(53:54):
that in that celebration of birthday, they didn't celebrate that
the earth provides.
Speaker 8 (54:02):
Yes, they don't. They don't think about any of this stuff,
and they just think it's like starship Enterprise, beab it down,
Scottie and it'll just be here.
Speaker 2 (54:14):
So how do we get them to think that way?
How do we? I mean, that's a mindset, isn't it?
Because and I used to blame it on people being
in cities, they never really got close enough to the
earth to really understand the earth. Is that true or
is it? Is it deeper than that? Is it a propaganda?
Speaker 8 (54:36):
Well, I think it's definitely part of the city aspects,
a part of modern modern society. Even out on ranches
and farms, you don't get most of your stuff right
out in your backyard there. You don't get your tractor
out of a barn if it's not built someplace, or
any of your other equipment. You don't get the milking machines,
(54:59):
you don't get the plows. That all has to be
made somewhere. But you're certainly more attuned to reality when
you're growing up on a ranch or a farm. People
that grow up in the cities are far removed from it.
They think everything just comes from the store down the street,
and a lot of it comes from the propaganda in
(55:20):
our schools. We get all this anti Semitism, all this
anti Israel hatred, but we also get all this capitalism hatred,
all this insane information about what's clean, green, renewable, sustainable,
and how awful dirty fossil fuels are. Stop oil, you'll
keep it in the ground, those kinds of ideas, and
(55:42):
none of it is ever thought through. I have never
heard one of these professors talk about what has to
be done to build that wind turbine, and how many
of them are going to need just first shoots idea
out of the shoot for wind turbines, he was going
to have something on the order of thirty thousand megawatts
(56:06):
of wind generated electricity by twenty thirty five years from now.
And if you took all of that electricity and you
were actually generating, and it was going to take about
twenty five hundred, eight hundred and fifty foot tall wind
turbines off the coast of New York in order just
to power New York State, and that would only power
(56:28):
it in reality at the times that the wind was blowing.
So you have all twenty five hundred wind turbines for
his whole offshore program barely powering New York State on
a hot summer day if the wind is blowing. And
on the hot summer day, the wind is generally not blowing.
(56:49):
It's just the weather circumstances that mandate that. So then
you need thousands of these enormous grid scale batteries to
back up your electricity generation, and you've got to build
those somehow. And they, like San Francisco discovered just a
couple months ago, they have a bad habit of catching fire.
(57:12):
And when they do, it's not just a Tesla or
some other electric vehicle catching fire. It's a whole warehouse
full of these things, thousands of them bursting into flames,
spreading the flames. You can pour all the water you
want to on them, and you won't put the fire out.
You just let it burn out. So you're talking about
(57:35):
evacuating thousands or millions of people from your city area
where where these batteries are burning, and then just letting
them burn out For days or a week, depending on
how big a system you've got. There transmission lines hundreds
of miles long to get the electricity from where the
wind is blowing to the big cities where where you're
(57:58):
using the electricity. So this whole sustainability movement, when it
gets out of common sense stuff manufacturer is going to
do to reduce raw material demands to make a beer can,
for example. The rest of the sustainability movement is basically nonsense.
(58:19):
It doesn't happen that these things are not sustainable. Nothing
about wind and solar is sustainable.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Well, with that, we're going to have to go to
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(58:48):
Angel here with my co host Rick Trader. We've been
talking with our very special guests Paul Dreson, who is
with c FACT and he is talking to us about
Earth Day. I'll explain that c FACT is Committee for
a Constructive Tomorrow. He is their senior policy Advisor. We've
(59:10):
been talking about Earth Day, and I just wanted to
mention to Paul that in Nevada we have three hundred
and sixty sunshiny days a year. Of course, that's what
you get when you live in the desert. And I
parked under a solar panel field, so they put them
up in the air, made a parking lot, and I
(59:30):
got in the shade. And with that, we're going to
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Speaker 1 (01:01:13):
And welcome back, Welcome back to that conservative Commander's radio
show with Sharon Angele and You're truly Rich Trader coming
to you from the my Pillar Studios and my Stora
Studios of the au n TV network. Paul dreesoners there.
I guess he's the senior policy advisor for Sea Fact
Committee for Constructive Tomorrow And Hey, Paul, tell me about
(01:01:35):
the First Earth Day. What do you remember about the
first Earth Day?
Speaker 8 (01:01:40):
That was a long time ago. I don't remember a
whole lot about it.
Speaker 1 (01:01:43):
If we went around, how did it change? Do you
think it changed your life any well?
Speaker 8 (01:01:50):
You know, in reality, my college campus and where I
grew up, we're on the Fox River of Wisconsin. That
was probably the most utilized river for paper making in
the country, maybe even in the world. At that time.
They had dozens of paper plants of different kinds. I
(01:02:12):
worked in one of them for a couple of years
during the summers anyway, helping to make paper bags and
other stuff. It was a polluted area. The air pollution
was bad, the water pollution was bad. People threw crap
into the river. You didn't want to swim in it
(01:02:33):
because it was just full of too many chemicals and things.
You didn't want to eat the fish out of it.
So we really had some serious problems there, and we
called attention to this. I think we launched a lot
of the stuff for the Clean Air Act and Clean
Water Act things like that, and changed the way businesses
(01:02:53):
ran their operations. They changed their own attitudes. They became
very cooperative, and you don't see the same old attitudes
and unconcerned about environmental quality anymore. So we had a
it was a very worthwhile thing to do. You don't
see the kinds of pollution in the United States and
(01:03:15):
many other developed countries that you used to. So I
think what we started there was a very good thing.
But as the environmental movement grew and became the environmentalist
and climate movement and so forth, they wanted to shut
down so much of modern society unless it was the
(01:03:35):
parts that they liked, whether it was a nice bike
or a car, or their own home. Things like that.
They didn't They despised capitalism as they sought. They didn't
understand capitalism or industrialization. They didn't understand, as we were
talking any where any of their things came from. So
(01:03:57):
and it became a matter of what skill stories like
destroying the planet with climate change because of fossil fuels,
can we concoct in order to give ourselves and our
regulator and legislative buddies more and more power over people's
daily lives and what they can buy, what they can't,
(01:04:17):
where they can fly, if they are allowed to fly.
Al gore Can and AOC and Bernie Sanders can go
off flying wherever they want to on private jets, but
the rest of us are supposed to stay home because
flying for the masses is against the environment and is
going to cause catastrophic climate change, all kinds of nonsense
(01:04:37):
like that. So what we started became a kind of
monster of Frankenstein that we've had a hard time controlling
in the years since. And we need to get back
to controlling them so that they can't control us and
bringing common sense and reality back into all of environmentalism.
(01:04:58):
And this is what I really think think Lee Zelden
and Doug Bergham and the Trump administration as a whole
are trying to do. You go overseas to Germany, and
they have gone so in whole hog on wind and
solar power in a country that has less wind and
solar energy coming into the country, more cloudy days than
(01:05:23):
in almost any other country in Europe, and they're destroying
their economy, They're destroying their industries, sending them out of
the country. It's like California, they don't mind importing a third,
almost a third of their electricity from Washington Oregon, other places,
even from Arizona, the big nuclear power plant just outside
(01:05:45):
of Phoenix. But they don't want to produce any of
it in their own state because then they can say
we are clean and green here in California. We just
suck the energy out of this.
Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
There's a huge price to pay for that, being plain
and grand. Fore since in the state of New Jersey,
Governor Phil Murphy has had this push, ever since he
came into office seven years ago, that he wanted New
Jersey to be just like California. So they try to
push wind and solar on New Jersey. And what they
(01:06:17):
did was they closed the Oyster Creek nuclear power plant
down ten years ahead of schedule. They destroyed the Beasley
Point power plant. They've shut down other power plants. And
now that what has happened is New Jersey is importing
forty percent of its energy. And by the way, this
(01:06:39):
coming June, they're increasing energy rates seventeen percent, which means
in the last two years the price of electric has
gone up thirty seven percent to make up for the
energy they have to import now, and then they're going
you know what they've They've created, They've created a catastrophe
(01:07:01):
they've created a hazard. So it's not just California, it's
it's wherever you have liberalism. And you know, Paul, I
agree with you. I think in the beginning there was
a definite need for for a mind towards cecology. As
you say, there was a lot of dirty, polluted places
(01:07:23):
that needed to be cleaned up. But I wonder anymore
that if they're just in business to make work now
to justify their existence rather than continue to make things
clean and grain. I mean, again, you mentioned California. There
are places in California where the farmers can't grow anything
(01:07:43):
because they're diverting water for a one inch fish that's
not even on the endangered species list. You know that
what they've done is they're sacrificing humanity and human activity
for nons. I wonder if the EPA, even if needs
exist anymore, and maybe Lee Zelton should do the same
(01:08:06):
thing that Linda McMahon is supposed to do with the
Department of Education, and that is put it out of business.
Speaker 8 (01:08:13):
Well, I think to a large degree, we can put
EPA out of business because they've accomplished what they were
originally created to do. And EPA was just an agglomeration
of offices and agencies out of other departments, pulled together
into a new EPA by Richard Nixon Executive Order. It
was not something brand new, We already had it. It
(01:08:37):
was just spread out over more government agencies and they
consolidated it. But the reality is exactly what you're talking about,
and it's not just because New Jersey has to import energy.
It's what we were talking about a few minutes ago.
If you start doing all this wind and solar stuff,
you have to have a dual system, and they both
(01:08:58):
cost massive mounts of money. You have to build all
your wind and solar and electric lines, and then you
have to also have a duplicate system of backup power,
whether it's coal or gas or batteries. That pole went
doesn't come cheap.
Speaker 1 (01:09:15):
Well, you know they're supposed to put all these windmills
out at sea. Donald Trump has put a squash through
that program. And even if they did, what would happen
to those windmills when the first hair came sandy rips
up the East coast and destroys all those windmills. Where
are we going to get our energy then? And so
(01:09:36):
for solar, what they've done is they've transformed farmland or
they cut down forest land to accommodate these solar farms.
So what you know, it's almost like, well, they say
we need we need to cut down on co two well,
plants and trees taken seeing to and give out oxygen.
(01:10:01):
So in other words, they're destroying one facet that they
say we need to accomplish something else that we really
didn't need, Paul, we really didn't need this. And the
amount of energy that you could get from a six
inch pipe that's put into the ground to extract gas
and oil, I mean, the footprint of that six inch
(01:10:21):
pipe is a hell of a lot smaller than these
massive wind farms and solar farms that don't work. In fact,
in Ivan, Paul, which is on the California Nevada border,
they just shut down a huge solar plant because it
didn't work.
Speaker 8 (01:10:40):
And you know what, a minuscule amount of electricity, massive
amount of land and money, and.
Speaker 1 (01:10:48):
It's saving people in California money because they shut this
thing down. Hey Paul, we got to run, but you know, buddy,
we always appreciate you joining us here, but before you go,
please tell already and so they could keep up with
you the things you write and find out more about
Sea Fact, the Committee for Constructive Tomorrow.
Speaker 8 (01:11:08):
Thanks for the opportunity. Yeah, I'll go to CFaCT dot org.
You'll find on a lot of my stuff there. And
if you want to see twenty years worth of my writings,
go to townhall dot com and go under the columnists
and look for my name. So it's been great being
back with you. And if we can conclude with one
final comment, I love this story how Germany cut down
(01:11:32):
some forests in order to build wind turbans, and then
they realized the wind turbans weren't working very well, they
were coming obsolete, and there was coal underneath the wind turbans,
so they cut down the wind turbans to extract the coal.
Speaker 1 (01:11:48):
To mind Nicole, that's rich Paul Jason again, thank you
so much for joining us. Take care, God.
Speaker 8 (01:11:54):
Bless thanks, God bless you my pleasure.
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And you are listening to the Conservative Commanders with Sharon Engele,
and you're surely Rick Treator on the other side. We're
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Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
And welcome back, Welcome back to that conservative Commanders radio
show with Sharon Angle and you're surely rich Trader, coming
to you from the my Pillar Studios and my Store
studios of the AU and TV network. And you know, Sharon,
one of the things I've really enjoyed every years of
doing this show is meeting a lot of new friends
(01:14:17):
which have become longtime friends at the show. And we
have another one of those people along with this, and
please make that introduction.
Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
My pleasure to introduce Judge Phil Genn who was appointed
President of the Southern Evangelical Seminary in April of twenty
twenty one after a distinguished career as both the lawyer
and a judge. He holds a BA from Apple Appalachian
State University at JD from the University of North Carolina
(01:14:48):
at Chapel Hill, and at doctor a Ministry from Southern
Evangelical Seminary. Prior to his appointment as ss President, Judge
Ginn served as s the S Chairman of the Board
of Trustees. Judge Philgain, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos
radio studios.
Speaker 3 (01:15:07):
Sharon's always a pleasure, and it is.
Speaker 2 (01:15:11):
Yes. I got corrected many times. I went to South Carolina.
My son is going to Southern Wesleyan University there at
Central and they all said, what are you saying, It's Appalachian. Okay,
(01:15:35):
I did it. And you know, we do the same
thing to anyone who says Nevada instead of Nevada. So
I get it. I wanted to talk to you about
a constitutional crisis. I'm going to give you a quote,
your quote. We find ourselves as a nation with a
(01:15:58):
real power struggle amongst our branches of government, which is
predominantly pitting the presidency of Donald Trump against the judiciary
of Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Uh. We feel it.
We feel it almost daily. It seems like with judicial
(01:16:19):
decisions that seem to trump the Constitution, so and and
that's not I didn't mean to do a play on
words there, but.
Speaker 1 (01:16:29):
It is fitting.
Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
So what it'll work, it'll work. So talk to us
a little bit about that statement and how it does
play out in each one of our lives.
Speaker 3 (01:16:42):
Well, I think it goes even deeper than just the
pitting of the president against the judiciary. What what's happened?
There are two or three maj well three major things,
in my opinion, Sharon, number one, and I'm not taking
them in the order. I think the most important one
(01:17:04):
I mentioned third, But the first one is we've become
so just separated in our nation that we're polarized as
a people, and that polarization is relatively equal, which causes
obviously the legislative branch, which has been infected by that,
(01:17:25):
to be just really ineffective. I mean, they can't get
anything done. They're paralyzed in a lot of ways. Certainly
they can't get it done quickly, and so that causes
the executive branch to have to act in a way
that maybe is not the best way to govern, but
may be the only way to govern. And that's true
executive orders. And then you've got the third branch of government,
(01:17:47):
which is the judiciary, which has really been infected by
this disease of looking at our constitution as a living,
breathing document. In other words, the document can change, will
change as the culture changes and as culture views it.
And when you do that, you open the door really
for power to control what the Constitution says and does.
(01:18:12):
And so if we get to that point, which we're
fast becoming in this nation, then I'm going to try
to get in power to force my views on you
before you can get in power to force your views
on me. And that's where we are. That's that's really
the discrepancy in with with this universal jurisdiction of federal
district court judges, where you know, when I when I'm
(01:18:36):
coming through court, I have I have the power over
the people in front of me in the court room.
I can't issue injunctions against a class of people unless
it's a class actual lawsuit and class action lawsuits and
special things very hard to get to. What you've got
it is district court federal district court judges who now
(01:18:56):
are entering uh, even as we found in in d C.
In that case where he didn't even have your section,
he's entering an injunction against that covers the whole nation,
which is totally unconstitutional, and you only can get there
by looking at a living branding document. I think that
really it mores sound to this third thing, though, share,
(01:19:17):
and and that is we have left our first love
in this nation, and that is the morals that are
the basis of who we are and what we are
as a nation under God. And once we lose those morals,
then that moral basis, I call it a godeline. Then
we're open to everything that comes our way. And there
(01:19:40):
is no absolute truth for our nation if we take
that path. And obviously I don't agree with that, because
I think absolute truth is there, but in effect, we
have no absolute truth because nobody believes it.
Speaker 2 (01:19:55):
Well. And I think that the President agrees with you.
Speaker 3 (01:20:01):
About that.
Speaker 2 (01:20:03):
In fact, he really did say in his Easter address
that we were still a nation under God, and I
think that that has been our motto for many years now,
and we need to get back there. But beyond that,
(01:20:25):
there seems to be this whole thing that you're describing
has seemed to bring about an anti Christian flavor to
such an extent that Pam Bondi has even said that
she's going to crack down on anti Christian discrimination within
(01:20:46):
the government and also on these crimes against Christians. I
don't know that everybody feels it, but certainly in some
areas there is it is are prevalent, and I think
you're right about that. So talk to us a little
(01:21:06):
bit about where we go from here. How do we
get back to one nation under God.
Speaker 3 (01:21:14):
Well, first of all, the anti Christian biob certainly under
mister Biden's administration was real, and I think he continues
to be real. And I'll explain that in just a minute.
But when mister Biden was in power and his menus,
whoever it was, it was running the government, I can't
really tell you at this point in time. I've got
(01:21:35):
some theories about who it might have been, but we
may never know who was running, who was really the president.
Certainly they weren't the elected president when they were run
in the country. But just for a little school like
Southern Evangelical Seminary, and you and Rick know that, I
I am not shy about speaking what I believe, and
(01:21:57):
you know we get we don't take government money because
we don't want to be entangled by that. The only
money we've ever taken from the government has been VA benefits,
and we've leave those along to the to the individual servicemen.
What ended up happening was they wanted us in order
to be able to take VA benefice, we had to
comply with title for which is basically saying we had
(01:22:19):
to hire l G B T, Q R, S T,
whatever those numbers are or letters are anymore. Uh and
and really go against what our base statement of faith
includes and open up our doors to anybody and everybody.
And we had to fight that. We got we managed
(01:22:41):
to get a temporary exemption uh in that situation, uh
while it was on appeal, and now that seems to
be going away under mister Trump, thankfully. But let me
also say to you that there is embedded in our
in our nation, a whole bureaucracy of people who are
(01:23:01):
very anti Christian. And this bureaucracy, I've described it as
being like kudzou. It's taken over everything. And this bureaucracy
is what mister Musk and mister Trump have been attacking,
and they're the ones that's setting policy in the country.
As we get into all of these different things they're
(01:23:22):
sutting policy, and the only thing that keeps them from
setting the policy and keeps them from running a monk
is the presidential orders, the executive orders that mister Trump
has been issuing. Again, that's maybe not the best way
to run a government, and it certainly could lead itself
to an autocratic form of government, but it's the only
way to get anything done then, because they've been so embedded. Now,
(01:23:44):
if you ask me what to do, I think there's
only one thing that can do that can be done
to change all of this sharing, and that is we've
got to turn our hearts back to God as a nation.
If the law does not exist in the hearts of
the people, that doesn't exist at all. Sharing and until
we get even in our churches, even in our good churches,
(01:24:05):
we're seeing that less than fifteen percent of the people
actually know what they believe and why they believe what
they believe. But there's good news out there. There is
good news out there. We're seeing anecdotal evidence of it
on college campuses of maths conversions, Ohio State, Auburn, Florida State,
(01:24:27):
even our own apple Achian State University in Blue North Carolina.
You saw it at Asbury University, there's lots of other
anecdotal examples. In fact, the Ohio State University revival was
led by the football team of all people, of all people,
and so you know there's examples of that. But we're
also seeing I'm following George Barnes look at this, and
(01:24:52):
he's found that, interestingly enough, this youngest generation is the
most conservative generation to come along in a long long time.
And not only that, but they are turning to buying Bibles,
they're reading their Bibles, They're seeking something more than themselves,
and many of them are seeking Christ. And it has
(01:25:14):
actually been led by young males. Jarn There's a higher
percentage of young males turning to the Lord than any
other segment of our population. And I say, thank God,
let the revival start.
Speaker 2 (01:25:29):
Amen. We were talking about this. I lead a little
Bible study on Mondays in Revelation, and we were talking
about this coming revival that we're all seeing on college
campuses and within this group of seventeen to thirty five
year olds, especially young men. And one of the statements
(01:25:52):
made was that it's because the young men have been
backed in a corner. The culture has stolen their sculinity
and their place in society, it's anybody but you you
you know, like you mentioned the LGBTQ, that whole thing,
(01:26:14):
that's okay, but to be a man in our society
is not acceptable. And so they're backed into a corner
and they really have no place else to go. But God,
do you think that's a correct summary of what's going
on or do you think there's more to it?
Speaker 3 (01:26:35):
Well, I think there's more to it, And let me
tell you what. I think. You're right, and I think
that's a major issue. I was talking to a young
man the other day who made the decision that he's
moving away from what the culture wants to the Lord,
and I said, just tell me why. He said, for
the first time in my life, I've been told that.
Speaker 2 (01:26:54):
It's all right to do that, to be a man. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:26:58):
Yeah, I have to give that. You know, I don't
know what mister Trump's spiritual life looks like. I don't
I'm not trying to be critical of it when I
say that, but I don't know. But at a very minimum,
he has announced that it's okay to be a Christian
in America again, and I think these young men are
(01:27:19):
hearing that and are responding to that. And that's the
reason why he got a much larger percentage of the
young people vote. You know, it's interesting, mister Biden tried
to buy him away with this all of this forgiveness
of student debt, and we turned against him and didn't
vote for him even after all of that. And it
(01:27:39):
was because these young people, if they're going to rebel
against what's going on, they turned to Christ in this
day and time, and now they've been told by mister
Trump that it's okay they do that. So I see
our culture changing to some degree. I just hope it
keeps going.
Speaker 1 (01:27:56):
Well.
Speaker 2 (01:27:57):
We have to keep going too. So we're going to
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(01:28:18):
We've been talking with our special guest, Judge Phil Gin,
who is the president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary. He
has been talking to us about the US facing a
constitutional crisis, and we've kind of gone into the whole
idea that there is a revival among young men in
(01:28:42):
this nation because it's okay now under President Trump, to
be a man. But more than that, they want truth.
And that's what we're going to be exploring, is the
truth of this culture and where we're going when we
come back from this break.
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Speaker 1 (01:32:10):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
Show with Sharon Engel and yours truly, Rick Trader, coming
to you from the My Pillar Studios the Mysture Studios
of the au N TV network. Our guest for this
segment is Judge Phil Gin. He's the president of the
Southern Evangelical Seminary, and we're discussing is the US facing
(01:32:35):
a constitutional crisis? Judge Gin, thank you for holding through
that break. We really do appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (01:32:43):
Well, it's so much fun to talk to you, guys.
I would wait a good bit longer than that if.
Speaker 1 (01:32:48):
Eight Judge Gin, each and every show we do here.
I have three things by my side. What is a
copy of our Constitution. And the other is a bible
that my dear friend Sharon bought me for Christmas. It
(01:33:10):
is the American Patriots Bible. And three, it's a list
of sayings quotes from our founding fathers of Thomas Jefferson
and John Adams. And John Adams said our Constitution was
made only for a moral and religious people. It is
(01:33:32):
wholly inadequate to the government of any other. And you know, Judge,
when we talk about are we in a constitutional crisis?
I think there are three fallacies that the left have.
Number one is that we are this country was formed
(01:33:56):
upon faith. You know, the founding others didn't always hold
their meetings at what's now known as Independence Hall. It
was Carpenters Hall at the time. Many times they held
their meetings in churches and on church properties, and they
never started a meeting that they didn't start with the prayer.
(01:34:20):
Number two. There's a book called the Atkins Bible. It
was printed in eighteen eighty one by Robert Atkins. It
was the first English language Bible printed in America, and
it was the only Bible that was approved and recommended
by the US Congress. And they approved it because there
(01:34:41):
was as shortage of Bibles and they believed that a
Bible should be in every classroom. So this idea of
separating church and state, that's a fallacy. The other fallacy
is that this is a democracy. This is not a democracy.
It is a republic and it's driven by the rule
(01:35:05):
of law, and the root of that is our constitution.
And I think the third fallacy here is that the
judicial is now overreaching its power that if you don't
like a law what you do, or if you don't
like something that our executive wants to do, our president
(01:35:28):
wants to do, the solution is go to the courts
to overrule. And you can find a judge that will
overrule anything the president or the Congress wants to do.
And sir, that is not three equal branches of government,
that is the judicial and their overreach overwriting our rightful
(01:35:53):
brands as the government of the executive and the legislative.
Your thoughts on those.
Speaker 3 (01:35:58):
Things, well, I think our courts became overactive. And you know,
you've got a bladder and it's sober active. It's a problem.
And the same thing true with court systems. It really
started back probably under Earl Warren years ago when I
(01:36:19):
was a boy. I haven't been fifty or forty or
fifty years ago. And the whole idea became that the
ends justify the means. In other words, when it came
in front of a judge, the judge is supposed to
be an interpreter of the law. He or she is
a reactionary individual, supposed to be only it takes the
(01:36:41):
law and applies it to the facts. That's it in
the court room, and not supposed to be a legislative
body by any means. But this whole concept that the
court system saw something they didn't like and instead of
telling the just overruling the law in or whatever it
(01:37:05):
might be and sending it back to the legislature to
try again. The course started fixing it for the legislature,
and that's where we got in trouble. Uh. It may
have been for a good cause. I mean, I'm not
arguing integration, that's not That's not what I'm talking about.
But the course over stepped their mounds in doing something.
It did it in Rosie Wade.
Speaker 1 (01:37:23):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:37:24):
They really, they really legislated. Uh. And you know, my
good friend Frank Twitt wrote a book entitled Legislative Morality,
and the point he made was where we we legislating
the morality as a culture. Every day we we create
morality as a culture. The question is who whose morality
are we creating? Whose morality? Whose morality are we pushing?
(01:37:44):
And obviously the morality that's been pushed is not the
Judaeo Christian morality that you, uh, very accurately depicted as
the basis for our constitution. To you know, this, this
whole concept of the ends justified the means as frightening
(01:38:06):
to me. And you look at the Palestinians. I'm broadening
our scope here a little bit, I know, but you
see these banners as the Palestinian worshipers, anti Semitic folks
go down by any means necessary. In other words, whatever
(01:38:26):
my goal is as a as a person, whatever that is,
whatever my group's goal is, we're going to try to
achieve that by any means necessary. That's why we've got
radicals saying that it's okay to kill somebody if they're
the president of United Healthcare, that's not a problem. They
probably needed to kill.
Speaker 1 (01:38:46):
Don't worry about Chuchu here. They're not just threatening the
CEO of United Healthcare. There are out there, There are
people out there right now that are advocating for the
assassination of not just President Trump, but Elon Musk. And
all Elon Musk is trying to do is is is
(01:39:06):
do what every politician has ever run for office said
they were going to do and never did. And that's
cut weights for aud in abuse. And that's all Elon
Musk is doing.
Speaker 3 (01:39:19):
Well, Yet they're going for his death. Any ironic that
Democrats have created their monster. Uh, if they had been
doing what they promised to do, Donald Trump would never
exist in the form that he is now. Absolutely, And
I think it's kind of funny because now they're just
outraged because somebody's doing what they promised to do all along.
(01:39:40):
But that's that's neither here nor there for our conversation.
Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Well, judge Philgain, you know one thing about our conversations.
We we we can go anywhere we went, because it
is a conversation. And I wanted to, you know, I
wanted to talk with you a little bit before we
have to say goodby to you about the death of
Pope Francis. Now, I, as a Catholic, was not a
(01:40:07):
fan of the of the the Pope of Pope Francis.
I was a fan of John Paul the Second. Why
Because John Paul the Second was a conservative pope. John
Paul the Second tried to lead the church. I think
in the in the on the road that Jesus Christ
(01:40:29):
would have wanted. I think that, uh, the that Pope
Francis was radical in in a in the sense that
we have radicals in this nation that are trying to
lead the lead our nation away from this route from
its roots. I think that's what the Pope Francis was
(01:40:53):
was was heading for. Maybe he didn't go as far
as a lot of liberals want it, but I think
that I think we could have had a better pope
in the last several years than Pope Francis. God bless him.
He's with you know, God and Jesus now. But I hope,
(01:41:16):
I'm hoping that what happens moving on from here is
that we do get a a another Pope, more in
the line of Pope John Paul the Second, rather than
another Pope Francis.
Speaker 3 (01:41:31):
Well, Rick, you know, the one thing I would say
is that any man's death, whether they're Pope or are
just a bum on the street, is of great concern
to me. Their their eternal well being is of great
concern to me. I look at it from not coming
from a Catholic background. I'm an evangelical background. And there
(01:41:54):
were times where there have been times in the past
where you and I could have a conversation because of that.
But I'm so thankful we're past those times now and
that we can we can talk freely about these kinds
of things. I share your concern. I thought that, uh,
the Pope Francis basically was Communist in this uh and
his heritage, and it's hard to shake that. It really
(01:42:15):
is that gets indoctrinated into you and Uh, I just
felt like he was bringing some concepts into the papacy
that that didn't belong there. Number one, Uh, I think
that if you want to call it wokeism or whatever
you wanted to call, that movement was certainly well and
and uh in good standing and in the Vatican during
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his role. I share your your thoughts that John Paul
the Second was probably uh, in my mind, far superior
pope to a character than than Pope Francis. But I
do think after having said all of that, that, as
with any pop the question now becomes who's going to
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replace it? And that ought to be a great concern
for folks all over the world, because you know, the
Catholic folks far out number most every other faith, and
at a very minimum we share a stalwart Evangelical and
a stalwart Catholic would would share much of the same
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moral vase that would prevail with anyone who followed God
in the Judaeo Christian from a Judaeo Christian point of view.
And so I'm like you, I'm very hopeful that whoever
is elected as the next quote, they they don't try
to make a statement with it, but they try to
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look inside to find the spiritual basis for who God
would call to that. Aron. That's far more important than
making some sort of diversity statement. And I know that
Pop Francis was the first Latin pope, and you know
that's great. Aack Obama was the first black to president.
That's great too, you know, but that doesn't have any
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that doesn't have any bearing to me. You know, just
because somebody comes from a certain cultural background or a
certain race doesn't mean they're going to be a good
pope for a good president.
Speaker 1 (01:44:16):
Well you know that, But.
Speaker 3 (01:44:19):
I'm just they're going to find the best man for
that job.
Speaker 1 (01:44:22):
Well lots of so. But the problem I see is
this judge. Again, just as over the last twelve of
the last sixteen years, we've had Democrats in the White
House appointing liberal judges, Jordan Raigne, of Pope Francis, what
he has appointed is a lot of liberal cardinals. And
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it's the liberal cardinals that are going to pick, choose
and vote on our next pope. That's what has me
concerned that there are a lot of people do who
are our cat licks that really do see a split
happening in the Catholic Church, that you're going to have
the liberal Catholic Church, and that you're going to have
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the conservative Roman Catholic Church through that exactly. And we've
seen that another with other denominations, and and I do
not think that that would be good for the Catholic
Church or even Christianity.
Speaker 3 (01:45:30):
I agree. You said something a while ago that intrigued
me a little bit, and it triggered the thought in
my mind.
Speaker 8 (01:45:36):
Rick.
Speaker 3 (01:45:37):
You said that a munch the three things you kept
on your desk was was a copy of the Constitution
and the copy of the Bible that Sharon had given
to you. And and and just let me say this,
I think the Constitution is to the United States as
the Bible ought to be the Christians. That Bible ought
to be read as as a literal document and air
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and fire and and good for everything in our lives.
As it is written, we don't need. I'm not gonna
be like Thomas Jefferson and just cut out the parts
of old like I would like to do that, But
you know, the old thing goes. One thing God didn't
include in the Bible, was my opinion, it wasn't very
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important to him impatiently and likewise. That Constitution is so
important to who we are, and it should be. It
should be interpreted with great reverence. It should be interpreted literally,
and it should be interpreted uh as as it is
and not as we might want it to be at
any given moment in time. I didn't tell you that
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I've been I.
Speaker 1 (01:46:43):
Think it's so important. I wish everybody would have the
Bible and their Constitution around them, Delhi. Even if they
don't pick it up and read it, every time they
look at the books, they're going to think about it.
They're going to think about the importance of our constitution.
You're going to think about the importance of word of
the God and Jesus. I also mentioned that I have
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quotes from our founding fathers, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams
and others here in front of me, and even if
I don't read them every day, just be just having
them in front of me reminds me of the importance
of what they said, what they stood for. And I
don't know, I think, well.
Speaker 5 (01:47:26):
Just let me give you.
Speaker 3 (01:47:28):
Let me give you one little snippet of information about
our constitution that a lot of people don't understand. You know,
I'm very proud you and I had a conversation about
North Carolina earlier I'm very proud that it's my adopted state.
I too Textan by birth. I'm a Texan by birth,
but i'm North Carolinian by lennag and North Carolina was
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one of the two states that refused to ratify the
Constitution until we had to build a rights and so
I'm very proud of that. And you know, we go
over in Europe and there's lots of lots more infringement
of religious freedom in Europe and in that area than
there is in the United States. And there's one reason
for that. They have no stated basis for religious for
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religious freedom, We've got that guaranteed in the number one
first verse of the Bill of Rights, you know, gives
us that religious freedom that's not written into the constitution
in England or France or whatever. And by the way,
francis constitution was based on a reliance on man, while
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Iris was based, as you well said, o reliance on God.
Their constitution led them to Napoleon. Ours led us to
a great way of governing.
Speaker 1 (01:48:50):
Well. The other thing, Judge Ginn, I don't know the
average American knows the importance of her constitution. For instance, recently,
there was a man who was praying silently, praying silently
outside an abortion clinic in England, and the police come
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up to him and they ask him what he was doing,
and he said he was praying, and they asked him
what he was what he was praying for, and he
says he was praying for the baby that he and
his wife had aborted. And he was arrested because he
was silently praying for his baby, silently praying for his
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baby in front of an abortion clinic. He was arrested.
And we see case after case in England, even in
Canada of people that are arrested for what they say.
And why is that they don't have a constitution we
do that protects our our freedom of speech, our fear,
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freedom of religion, our freedom of assembly or supposedly.
Speaker 3 (01:50:03):
Yeah, I agree with you, Rick, and that's my point.
This bill Rids that is attached to our constitution is
so valuable to us. And the freedom of speech and
the freedom of religion go hand and hate, because the
speech that they're trying to quell is religious speech.
Speaker 1 (01:50:21):
Judge phil again, we always appreciate you, appreciate you joining
us here on the Conservative Commanders. We know you're traveling
today and you actually took time out of your travels
to join us, and we greatly appreciate that. But before
you go, please tell our audience how they could follow you,
how they can read the things that you're right, and
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how they can find out more about the Southern Evangelical Seminary.
Speaker 3 (01:50:50):
It's really simple, Rick, you need to go to SEES
dot edu. We're excited at SEES. We are enrollment at
a time when enrolled us going down hours is up
over thirty one percent over the last two years, and
we're thrilled about that. We've got several initiatives that are
going out to help the average ordinary person in their faith,
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including disciple making and that sort of thing. So I'm
excited about that. We're even talking with Billy Graham Evangelistics
Association about a partnership and some of those things that
they're doing, and we're going to be a part of it.
It looks like so great days are happening. You're a
SDS dot edu.
Speaker 1 (01:51:29):
Judge Ken again, thank you so much for joining us.
As I said, we always appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (01:51:35):
Take care and God bless God bless you guys, and
God bless Sharon too, So you take care of yourself.
Speaker 1 (01:51:41):
Bye bye, and you are listening to and watching The
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Speaker 2 (01:55:57):
Always my pleasure to thank our guests are for guest,
longtime friend of the show, Fail Drison, who's senior policy
advisor for the Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow See fact.
We talked to him about Birthday and I just described
some of my Earth Day experiences and we went into
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the conflict that there is the seeming disconnect between what
comes from the earth and what we use it for
and how many times the people who are celebrating the
Earth really are celebrating things that they they really don't
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understand the source of. So I was glad that Paul
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guest that I want to thank is doctor I mean
not doctor, but Jodge Filgin, who was appointed president of
the Southern Evangelical Seminary. He talked to us about the
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him as we came into this segment because of a
kind of a place where we went. Even though we're
in constitutional crisis, he saw the hope for our country
in our young men. So I want to say thank
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you to both of our guests for being here.
Speaker 1 (01:57:34):
Vote Sharon Angle dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:57:37):
Well, that's my political website, Vote Sharon Angle dot com.
You can go there and read my articles, lots of
them concerning election integrity and some of the legislation that's
going through our legislative process right now. And they know
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it's not unique to Nevada. I think that even if
you don't live in Nevada, you might like to see
my take on some of the things that are coming
through legislatures that undermine our election process and the security
of it, the fairness of it, and even the trustworthiness
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of it. So that's there on my website. It's a
free newsletter. Also there you can donate to my campaign,
and that again is just vot Sharonangle dot com. Vote
Sharon Angle dot com. And I'm running for the Secretary
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but that's why I'm running is because that is the
office that oversees our elections and the protection of fair
and honest elections. So it's it's time that we see
that office as an important part of the American experience.
Speaker 1 (01:59:03):
Well, Sharon, you know I say all the time, we
conservatives need to support other conservatives, fellow conservatives. If they're
in your town, great, If you're in a state great,
or if they're clear cross country that's great too. And
whatever happens in Nevada, if you can, if you win
that election, and make that office an example of what
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a secretary of state can do to ensure election integrity,
that's a model that can spread like a wildfire across
the country. And I think it's something that's surely needed,
surely needed. We need fair, clean and honest elections. Let's
use your office, that a Secretary of State of Nevada,
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as an example what other secretary of states can do
and should do. Very important, get it start. They're in Nevada.
So Sharon, I want to thank you for sitting in
today as my co host, But for right now, we
are out of time. We gotta run, and we gotta
go take care of godless and we'll see you tomorrow
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and that's going to be on TVN, on radio,