7-28-25 Conservative Commandos: " TOPICS: Speaker Johnson Exposes Democrats’ CR Misinformation
This morning, at the weekly House Republican Leadership press conference, Speaker Johnson discussed House Republicans’ clean 6-month continuing resolution (CR) and Congressional Democrats’ attempt to force a government shutdown.
“Here's the bottom line. If Congressional Democrats refuse to support this clean CR, they will be responsible for every troop who misses a paycheck, for every flight delay from reduced staffing at TSA, and for every negative consequence that comes from shutting down the government,” Speaker Johnson said.
Watch Speaker Johnson’s full remarks here
On Congressional Democrats spreading misinformation about the CR:
[Democrats] either have an issue with reading comprehension or they are attempting to run one of the most shameful misinformation campaigns that we've ever seen in our lives. We filed the continued resolution on Saturday, and as was noted, they had already come out panning the bill that literally had not yet been seen. This is the house Democrat leadership team's statement on Friday. They said, “Republicans have decided to introduce a partisan continuing resolution that threatens to cut funding for healthcare, nutritional assistance, and veterans benefits through the end of the year.” Every single word of that is a lie. Every single word, they just made it up. They didn't read the bill. It's nonsense. People are not buying this.
They said, “It's so harmful to the American people. You know, cutting Medicaid, cutting Medicare, threatening social security, cutting veteran benefits.” It's all a lie. You can all read the bills. 99 pages. This clean CR contains no poison pill riders. No policy riders there at all. No cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. Zero. No cuts to veterans benefit benefits. Zero. In fact, as was noted, we plus up the accounts for veterans. And respectfully, I'm just going to say this to every reporter in the room. If you're allowing Democrats to make these intentionally false, scurrilous claims without pushback, then you're aiding and abetting the spreading this misinformation. I would just ask you to call 'em on it. The American people deserve that. They deserve that clarity from our press corps. Make them point it out to you. They can't, of course.
On House Republicans’ efforts to keep the government open:
You will see one team that is working to fund the government and make sure we do the responsible thing. And you're going to see another opposing a CR because they've now exposed the truth. They're not for federal workers; they're not for anyone. All the people they've said in the past that are going to be harmed, would be by their votes. They're using federal employees as props. They're using Medicaid benefits and social security checks as cudgels. The threat of government shutdown, they're using as some sort of attempt to wrestle power away from the president of the United States who overwhelmingly won the popular vote, the electoral college in every single swing state.
On Democrats changing their tune on government shutdowns:
And now, after weeks of trotting federal workers up to Capitol Hill and onto cable news shows to protest President Trump's efforts to make the government more efficient, now they're planning to vote down this simple bill. They are going to try to shut the government down. Every house Democrat will participate in this it looks like. That would be a shame if it's true, I hope some of them will have a moment of clarity themselves and do the right thing. But it looks like they're going to try to shut down the government. It's a striking new posture for Democrats who have always been apoplectic about the prospect of government shutdowns. This is their own words. You don't need to trust us on this.
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This morning, at the weekly House Republican Leadership press conference, Speaker Johnson discussed House Republicans’ clean 6-month continuing resolution (CR) and Congressional Democrats’ attempt to force a government shutdown.
“Here's the bottom line. If Congressional Democrats refuse to support this clean CR, they will be responsible for every troop who misses a paycheck, for every flight delay from reduced staffing at TSA, and for every negative consequence that comes from shutting down the government,” Speaker Johnson said.
Watch Speaker Johnson’s full remarks here
On Congressional Democrats spreading misinformation about the CR:
[Democrats] either have an issue with reading comprehension or they are attempting to run one of the most shameful misinformation campaigns that we've ever seen in our lives. We filed the continued resolution on Saturday, and as was noted, they had already come out panning the bill that literally had not yet been seen. This is the house Democrat leadership team's statement on Friday. They said, “Republicans have decided to introduce a partisan continuing resolution that threatens to cut funding for healthcare, nutritional assistance, and veterans benefits through the end of the year.” Every single word of that is a lie. Every single word, they just made it up. They didn't read the bill. It's nonsense. People are not buying this.
They said, “It's so harmful to the American people. You know, cutting Medicaid, cutting Medicare, threatening social security, cutting veteran benefits.” It's all a lie. You can all read the bills. 99 pages. This clean CR contains no poison pill riders. No policy riders there at all. No cuts to Medicare, Medicaid, or Social Security. Zero. No cuts to veterans benefit benefits. Zero. In fact, as was noted, we plus up the accounts for veterans. And respectfully, I'm just going to say this to every reporter in the room. If you're allowing Democrats to make these intentionally false, scurrilous claims without pushback, then you're aiding and abetting the spreading this misinformation. I would just ask you to call 'em on it. The American people deserve that. They deserve that clarity from our press corps. Make them point it out to you. They can't, of course.
On House Republicans’ efforts to keep the government open:
You will see one team that is working to fund the government and make sure we do the responsible thing. And you're going to see another opposing a CR because they've now exposed the truth. They're not for federal workers; they're not for anyone. All the people they've said in the past that are going to be harmed, would be by their votes. They're using federal employees as props. They're using Medicaid benefits and social security checks as cudgels. The threat of government shutdown, they're using as some sort of attempt to wrestle power away from the president of the United States who overwhelmingly won the popular vote, the electoral college in every single swing state.
On Democrats changing their tune on government shutdowns:
And now, after weeks of trotting federal workers up to Capitol Hill and onto cable news shows to protest President Trump's efforts to make the government more efficient, now they're planning to vote down this simple bill. They are going to try to shut the government down. Every house Democrat will participate in this it looks like. That would be a shame if it's true, I hope some of them will have a moment of clarity themselves and do the right thing. But it looks like they're going to try to shut down the government. It's a striking new posture for Democrats who have always been apoplectic about the prospect of government shutdowns. This is their own words. You don't need to trust us on this.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome, fellow plorabulls, Welcome
all of you, Drece's Society and rock d weller see
stick events and stinkles. Let me translate friends, eyes and patriots,
and You're always welcome here. And this is the Conservative
Commander's Radio show. And I'm Rick Trador coming to you
from the my Pillar studios and my Store studios of
(00:29):
the AU and TV Network. Joining me today as he
usually does, leading off the week, is the President n
CEO of Frontiers of Freedom, and that is George Landers.
And George, welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, thank you. This is the place to be, so
I'm very happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hey, George, did you ever go to Jeffrey Epstein's island
Paradise Town?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
There?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I mean, are you? I'm sick of hearing about this, George.
It seems what's really bugging me is with all the
good things happening in the Trump administration, seems like the
Republicans are falling into the trap of the Democrats by
actually talking about this. Why did it get your feelings?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, you make a good point one, No, I was
never there, but answer, Yeah, I know you're shocked by that.
But on the other hand, the other thing that I think,
you know is interesting is that for years the mainstream
press and Democrats didn't talk about the Jeffrey Epsteam thing much.
It was just kind of like not a big deal,
(01:40):
aside from occasionally they would accuse certain Republicans of, you know,
maybe having gone there, but they didn't have any evidence
of that. They just used it politically occasionally, but basically
it was kind of like a non topic. But interesting. Now,
that's all I want to talk about, and I think
people who supported President Trump might want to recognize that
(02:01):
there could very well be a rational reason why not
much is going on here, because for years, the Biden
administration and it's the corrupt DJ had all the files,
and it could very well be we know for a
fact that people like the January sixth Committee destroyed all
the evidence that they had because what did it prove
that the narrative they were telling was false? And so
(02:24):
it could very well be that Joe Biden did exactly
the same thing, or not personally him because he probably
wasn't smart enough to do that, but that his administration
did the same thing. And so I think it's important
that we recognize that it could very well be when
we start hearing that, you know, they can't find a list.
They may have files of things that tell them certain things,
(02:46):
but they may not actually have a client list, and
that's not necessarily a lie. And some people are, oh,
they're lying about them. Really, So you think that Joe
Biden would have allowed that list to survive since we
know for a fact that many Democrats were on that list,
Because after all, we know what the January sixth Committee did.
(03:07):
They hid all their evidence of obstruction of justice, of
perjury and lying under oath and so forth, and so
why wouldn't the Epstein files have had the same impact.
And you can't unshred documents once they've been destroyed and disposed.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Of, Right, Georgia, It seems to me that the Democrats
always seem to run the narrative.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And let's go back to.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The Clinton impeachment. You know, the Clinton impeachment was all
about he lied under oath, and yet all the media
wanted to talk about, well, this is all about sex,
and what two people do between themselves shouldn't have any
bearing any bearing on how the country is governed. All right,
(03:57):
and that if it's never any thing else except sex.
But now, now, oh okay, let's say let's say Trump's
name is on that list. Let's say that trump name
is all through that. By the way, I even seen
something on Yahoo today, and we need to talk about
(04:18):
sleazy operations. Yahoo is one of them. They're even talking
about Milania being mentioned in the Epstein files. Now, Milania
being mentioned in the Epstein files. Now, George, everything is
about the Epstein files. And it really really shows one thing,
really shows a couple of things. Number One, the Republicans
(04:40):
always let the Democrats run the narrative, which I think
is wrong. Number Two, it also shows how little the
Democrats have to talk about that all their policies are bad,
all their policies that are onside it are on the
side of the eighty twenty argument. They really have no vision.
(05:05):
They really don't have any exciting candidates out there to
speak of. That the only thing, the only thing that
they can talk They can't talk about the economy anymore,
they can't talk about egg prices anymore. The only thing
that they can talk about is the Jeffrey Epstein Files.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah. Well, one thing's for sure, I've never seen the files. So,
but how do I know that Donald Trump's not on them?
Because during the four years of the well Biden administration,
the lawfair that went on, the lies to courts, the
various efforts that were done to use lawfair to unravel
(05:45):
his ability to run for president. If his name was
on a file like that, they may not have wanted
to release the whole file itself, but they would have
definitely released his name and the proof they had that
he was one of Jeffreys Epstein's regular attendees. And they
didn't do that. Why because it's not there, and so
(06:07):
they might be willing to infer it, but they would,
I guarantee you if they had evidence that he had
done that, we would have known about it and it
would have been in the news for four straight years
non stop.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I don't know about the validity of the files, says
the r Nail. I believe that they could very very
well be corrupted. You talked about removing evidence, removing documents.
How about this idea, what kind of documents could have
been added?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
What kind of what kind of doc could have been
You know, these these files were in the control of
the BID.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Was based on the idea of the manufacturing of false evidence,
and so you're right. They could have created a file,
they could have created the you know, they could have
included your my name on there too, just because we
don't like what the conscers of the commandos say, Let's
see if we can detegrate them, you know what I mean.
But that doesn't mean it's true, because neither you nor
(07:05):
I ever were invited, nor did we ever go, nor
had we been willing to go, because that's not who
we are. And so you're right. You cannot only hide
and destroy evidence. You can manufacture evidence. And we've seen
this from the Obama people and the Obiden people beginning
(07:26):
as early as the Russian collusion hoax.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
George, I think there's another piece of evidence pretty well
shows that Donald Trump's name were involmit with Gepsy Jeffrey Epstein.
Probably isn't there. Where are all the women? Where are
all the women that Donald Trump would have had contact.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
With the through Who's the prince from England? Was it?
I don't think who it was.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Wasn't Charles. It was Charles's brother, Yeah, Charles's brother. But anyhow,
how do we find out that he was there. Was
that list that was out on the list? The answer
is no. It was that the some of the underaged
women that were victims of this crime, they recognized him
and so they talked about him because of course he
(08:18):
was royalty and so forth, so he was a well
known person. Donald Trump's pretty well known so and he's
also he doesn't necessarily look like a thousand other people.
When you see a picture of Donald Trump, you know
exactly who it is. So if Donald Trump had been
there multiple times and had engaged in this sort of behavior,
there would be women who were there and would be say,
(08:40):
wait a minute, I know that guy. He was there.
So again, at some point they may come up with
someone who claims that just because they're paid him on
the side, you know what I mean, kind of like
the crazy person who accused Neil was it not Gorsuch?
It was, yeah, that's right, right of sex assault or
(09:00):
something like that, and she's made up that garbage. And
the evidence now is pretty clear that it was made up.
But at the time they were able to sell it
for a little bit at least and get it in
the papers and so forth. So the bottom line is
you're exactly right, that there's really no reason to believe this.
And at this point, even if they come up with something,
it's going to be manufactured because if it was there,
(09:24):
we would have known about it because this is from
years ago.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So George, as we started out this conversation by saying
that Republicans have a lot of success to talk about,
do you think that Donald Trump should continue to talk
about their successes and leave his defense not being involved
with Jeffrey Epstein up to the George Landras and Rick
(09:50):
Traders of the world.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Perhaps, I mean it may make occasionally, he probably has
to because sometimes if you never say no, I didn't
do that. You know, if someone accused you and I
of robbing bank this afternoon and we'd be like, no,
we didn't, we may not invest a lot of time
to defend ourselves against the allegation because it's kind of obviously.
I was like, no, we were on a show at
the time, idiot, how do you rob a bank while
(10:13):
doing a show. But at the same time, we might
just at least say no, but then we could focus on,
you know, other things. And I think that you make
it makes sense because coming up in twenty twenty six,
so it will be an important election, and I think
that election, while it may be helpful for him to
say no, that's not true, it'll be even more important
(10:33):
for him to point out how he's been turning America
around and getting us back on track economically, from a
national security perspective, getting the crime under control, all the
different things that he's been working on to get things fixed,
and he's done it very rapidly. It's kind of crazy
how rapidly he's been making progress. I know there's still
(10:55):
lots more to do, so I'm not saying he's done yet,
but I'm saying it took Joe Biden four years to
do all this tremendous damage, and he's already fixing the
damage in many instances. And you know example, as we
went from you know, twenty one million people coming across
the border illegally and now it's the numbers close to zero.
(11:15):
Pretty impressive, Pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Indeed, with that, George, let's do take a break and
you are listening to and watching your conservative commandos. That
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We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1 (14:38):
And what's again we do? When to welcome me back
to the Conservative Commandos with George Landerth and your strewdly
Rick Drader coming to you from the Mike Pillow Studios
my Steward Studios of the a U n TV Network. So, George,
what's attracting your attention?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
These days.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Well, I've done a little bit of work on what
I would call debunking the lefts lie, one of their
big lies, which is that fascism is part of the
being far right. And you know, for decades we've been
taught a simplistic political spectrum that communism is on the
far left and fascism is on the far right, and
that democracy is somewhere safely in the middle. And that's
(15:18):
a framework that's repeated in academia, which tells you that
the academics who say that are either stupid or dishonest.
And I'll explain why. And also, of course it's echoed
by the media, and it's even baked into textbooks sometimes.
But the narrative is not only historically inaccurate, either argue,
it's dangerously misleading, because fascism and communism are not opposites.
(15:41):
They are rivals within the same ideological family, branches of
the collectivist tree rooted in Marxist soil. When they differ,
they you know, they do differ, maybe in rhetoric and style.
They both lead to the same destination. So tellit hearing control,
the abolition of individual and the glorification of the all
(16:02):
powerful state. You know, to call fascism far right is
to misunderstand both history and political philosophy. And so I've
done a lot of research on this since I've actually
I'm in the process of writing an article about this,
because I think it's time we say enough's enough. Because
fascism did not arise as a reactionary right wing movement.
(16:23):
It emerged from the left, explicitly from Marxism and socialist
intellectual circles like Benito Mussolini, the fascist from Italy, was
not only a card carrying socialist, but he was the
editor of Avanti, the official newspaper of the Italian Socialist Party.
He broke with orthodox Marxists not because he rejected socialism,
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He was against all of them. And then also behind
(17:53):
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a devout Marxist. He of course was a believer in
what Hagel and Marx had written, but he made some
adjustments to it to create a vision of a state
that its ultimate expression was designed to squash human will.
(18:16):
In his view, the individual had meaning only through the state,
and the view that entire that's the view that's entirely
to odds with limited government and to the American right.
So I think it's very important because let's be honest,
you and I believe in less government. We believe in
smaller government. We'd like to see budget cuts and things
like that. So if you take what we believe to
the extreme, what you get you don't get fascism, you
(18:40):
might get anarchy, because if you take it to the extreme,
you'd actually, I'm not saying that you agree with this,
so we don't do this, But if you take what
we believe to the extreme, you might start going, yeah,
we don't need to have a constitution or federal government,
we just need no government. That'd be much better. And
then you'd have anarchy. So the extreme right would be
(19:02):
people who don't believe in having a government that's focused
on the individual rights, promoting the idea that all men
are created equal and endowed by their Coarthian avil rights.
You think that no government at all would be better off.
And I've talked to a few people who seem to
sound like that sometimes, and they would be the extreme right.
But believing in big government that has enough power to
(19:25):
round up millions of people and killing them and taking
over the country and attacking all of the its neighbors
and the continent and so forth, that's not the extreme
right view, or.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
George, I think it's the extreme left view. You know,
they're even Hillary Clinton talks about we might have to
re educate those people. Remember that. You know. The other
thing that was thinking of, George is facts are sticky things.
The facts are sticky things. However, yeah, well maybe that's
what meant to say. Facts are stubborn things instead of
(19:58):
sticky things.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Maybe they're maybe they're both.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But it seems like if you get a person or
a group of people shouting and yelling the same things simultaneously,
there are other people out there who aren't so informed
will start to believe those things.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Georgia.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Unfortunately, I think that there are forty percent of the
people out there who follow political things, who follow the news,
who follow trends, which leaves about sixty percent of the
people either they don't or they don't care, or they
just don't want to bother. But if they hear a
group from one side of the other screaming one way
(20:43):
or another, they'll start to think, well, that's the way
things are. Those are the facts, But they're not the facts.
I heard something not too long ago, and I really
don't remember in what context it was, but there were
about twenty people in a group and others twenty people.
(21:04):
Nineteen of them were all in cahoots and they would
say they would hold up something that was black and
they would say, this is white, this is white, this
is white. This is why. But when it got to
that twentieth person, because that person who heard this was
(21:25):
black or this was white and not black, that person said,
guess what. Guess what? They said.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, they were influenced by the.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Way they were influenced.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
And I think that is what it is what happens
in our society today, especially with social media, George, there
are a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Of stream media, which is part of the reason why
the conservative commandos in the A and TV network are
so important. Indeed, Americans need to be able to go
somewhere to get truth and to get accurate analysis as
opposed to just lies.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
So we are there, So aun is there served to commanders?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Is there?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Frontiers of freedom?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
However, there's this large group of people that don't want
to be involved, that would rather bury their head in
the sand. Some of them think there's nothing I can
do about it. But when they hear the lie pushed
and pushed and pushed, they don't know it's a lie,
and they think the lies is true. After all, that's
what everybody's saying. Same thing with what we're talking about
(22:30):
in the first segment the Epstein Files. I would bet
there's a large percentage of people out there they are
absolutely sure, absolutely sure that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein
we're in kahoots with this thing. Why because that's what
the left is pushing. They push very hard, and they're
(22:50):
good at pushing lies. But that that group of people
just hears one side of things and takes it as
the gospel. Unfortunately, that group don't try to look outside
the box and say, Okay, this is what I'm hearing
from this side, what is the other side saying. I
(23:11):
think that's a problem. I really, I really do believe
that's a problem. And I think a lot of that
problem starts with our educational system. You know, when we
got teachers in government schools that are parroting the side
of the left and saying that everything on the right
(23:32):
is evil. When college when eighty percent of the college
professors out there are registered Democrats, when one hundred percent
of the editors from NPR are Democrats. That's what people hear,
that's what they believe, and they don't look for the
answers themselves. I don't know how you get by that.
(23:56):
I don't know how you get through that problem. People
aren't willing to hear both sides of the story. I mean,
if you listen to their side and then you listen
to our side, you'll say why Yeah, those guys, those
guys make sense. You know, the guy with the red
taie on, the guy with the red hat sunglasses. It
(24:16):
makes sense. Yeah if Donald Trump, say, was involved, so
you would have heard for the last four years Donald Trump,
Jeffrey epsin, but you didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
All right, Yeah, anyway, Well, part of the reason why
so many academics, journalists, and cultural elites continue to parrot
the fascism is the far right trope, and that's it's
just a lie. But the reason why they parrot it,
like you said, they're the people that are holding up
the you know, a piece of paper that's black, telling
everyone that that black is white, or holding up a
green piece of paper and saying that's yellow because it
(24:48):
serves their political agenda. By redefining fascism as right wing,
the left creates a convenient boogeyman to demonize anybody who
supports the constitution, traditional values, or limited government. Labeling Conservatives
as fascist adjacent is easier than debating ideas. In other words,
we don't have to discuss policy. We don't have to
(25:10):
debate the constitution and the wisdom of it and how
our founders are really intelligent individuals. We just need to
label them fascists and then we win because everyone agrees
that the fascists were evil, because they obviously were, But
they were no different than the communists because if you
look at the reality of what they're like. Despite their rivalries,
(25:31):
fascism and communism are fraternal twins. They both rejectate the
of natural rights. They both demand total control by the
state economically, culturally, socially. They imprison or execute the centers.
They destroy civil society, suppress religion, and crushed individual liberty.
And the only real difference is is what they use
(25:52):
to rally support. One is class based and the other
is nationalism or race based, but everything else is exactly
the same. So I think it's time that people wake
up and smell the coffee.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Need indeed, dy and talk about waking up. George, It's
time for a break. And you are listening to and
watching the Conservative Commandos with George Landra Thumbrick Trader. We'll
be right back right after this break.
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And welcome back.
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(30:21):
is on your radar screen?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well? I saw it interesting. It's kind of a, if
you will, somewhat related to our previous conversation. But there's
a poll that came out that said that essentially a
very strong plurality of the poll said that the Democratic
Party is too radical and that it's become unreasonable and
you know, leftist. And what I think is interesting about
(30:45):
that is, I think it's clearly true because if you
look at you know, the American Republic was founded on
during principles like natural writing.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yours let me just stop you for many Now.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's in spite and in spite of we were talking
about earlier, but that is in spite of most of
the major television networks CBC, NBCCPSCNMSNBC out there that keep pushing.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
The liberals side.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That maybe that you know, this gives me a little
hope that people are a seeing past that garbage.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It could well be, and it could just be that
the left getting so extreme that it's hard to miss,
meaning it was easier than this. But you know, our
nation was founded on very important principles, things like natural rights,
limited government, individual liberty, the rule of law. And for
over two centuries, these ideals have guided our nation through war, deppression,
civil unrest, and various changes in society. But today these
(31:44):
same principles are now under unprecedent attack, not from foreign adversaries,
but from within. And what's weird is the modern Democratic
Party once was a broad tent of classical liberals. By that,
I mean they believed in the constitution, they believe in
individual rights. That's what a classical liberal was. We're talking
about classical as in the time of Jefferson and Washington,
(32:06):
not modern liberals, I believe in big government. And they
also included moderates, meaning people who weren't necessarily quite classical liberals,
but they weren't crazy left wing kooks who hated the America.
But it's been hijacked by radicals pushing a deeply illiberal,
an increasingly Marxist agenda that poses a direct threat to
(32:27):
American freedom, prosperity, and constitutional governments. And I think that's
part of the reason why they're trying to claim that
the Right are fascists because they want to have an
offset to the very clear evidence that they are increasingly Marxist.
And I would argue this is not just rhetoric, it's
actually observable in policy, in culture, and ideology. If you
(32:48):
look at what's going on, you look at the things
that the Nazi and the Marxist regimes in the early
twentieth century did. Guess what the Democratic Party is now
working on. Those things centralized control, suppression of dissent, getting
rid of you know, freedom of religion doesn't matter anymore.
What we want to do is worship government in the
state and the destruction of traditional moral and social foundations.
(33:10):
And so this is I think very revealing that they
poll and I think that's good news because, like you said,
it helps us know that at some point the American
public is not going to be fooled by the media's
attempt to fool them. At some point. It's kind of
like if it's raining outside and the weather man's on
TV telling you it's a beautiful day out you ought
(33:32):
to go on a picnic, and it's pouring rain, and
you know, the the gutters, you know, overflowing with water
because of the heavy rain. My guess is the average
American go, hmmm. I think the weather man's wrong on
that one. Why because your personal observation has some power,
So I'm hoping that Americans can observe what's actually going on.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I agree, George. It's kind of interesting that we had
that a very conversation during the first and second segments
of the show, but now after we're hearing this poll.
And again, polls are interesting things. It depends who ask
the questions and what questions that they ask. But when
(34:15):
you talk about the approval of the Democrat Party, what
is it like nineteen percent, which is extremely.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Historic clothes.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
But the one problem that I have everything, George, if
you look at the generic polls, and again we're talking
polls here, all right, if you look at the generic
polls for Congress come next year's twenty twenty six midterm races,
Democrats hold a small margin.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah. Well, the good news is historically when they've held
a small margin, they've often lost. For example, this time
in nineteen ninety four when the Republicans had the Republican
Revolution and retook the House after more than forty years
and won a historically large number of seats. This time,
you know, a year in advance, the Democrats actually had
(35:10):
a pretty strong advantage. And so I think what it
demonstrates is that we don't have to be too afraid
of the Democrats supposedly looking like they have a slight
advantage in the polls. You know, example, d if we
believe the Democratic or the polls out say, and during
the summer and early fall of twenty sixteen, who was
(35:31):
going to be the next president of the United States
Hillary Clinton? If you believe the polls in early twenty
twenty four who was going to win? It was gonna
be Joe Biden, and then later it was going to
be Kamala And all of a sudden, then the polls
catch up, and then they realize at the end that
now that's not true.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well, I've said for quite some time, I've always found
the polls interesting. But again, for me, it's just a
lot of entertainment. It's like the uh, the Major League
Baseball standings really don't mean a thing to the last
stay of the season.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, yeah, Well that's right, because it's a snapshot, and
so the standings mean only what they mean for that
particular timeframe. It doesn't mean that that's who the who's
gonna win the World Series. And you're right, because it
ain't over till it's over, and so that's true for
the mid midterms as well. But I think if you look,
for example, some of the issues that demonstrate how extreme
the Democratic Party has become, they're interested in censorship and
(36:27):
media control. That's not something that you heard say someone
like John F. Kennedy promoting, but it is now the
way they do things. And authoritarian regimes always try to
control speech and suppress dissent. The Nazis tightly controlled radio,
newspapers and film, Marxists banded opposition media, and today Democrats
(36:48):
in Congress are openly pressuring tech companies or were during
the Biden administration because the White House was involved in
it when Biden was president, to censor dissenting voices and
laboring them, labeling them disinformation. And so it's kind of time.
You know, example Hunter's laptop, the COVID nineteen policies, big
(37:09):
tech censorship, all of that was designed to benefit the
left wing Democrats anyhow. And then you look at gun control,
one of the earliest acts the Nazi regime was to
strict gun control, and it didn't used to be the
Second Amend was a partisan issue. There was a time
when the Second Amendment was like the First Amendment, meaning
(37:29):
that Americans agreed that people should have the right of
free speech and freeom of religion. And then of late
it's become a highly partisan issue, and the Nazi regime
worked at disarming its political opponents and targeted groups. And
now that's what the Democrats are interested in doing. They
want to make sure that they put they put criminals
back out of the streets, making Americans at risk, and
(37:51):
it's just in law abiding the citizens get demonized and
stuff like that. It's just like, really, this is very interesting.
And then of course Nazis also the demployed brownshirts to
intimidate political enemies, and the Marxist revolutionaries justified violence, you know,
as necessary for liberation. And yet today what do we see.
We see leftist mobs harassing and threatening Supreme Court justices,
(38:17):
Antifa destroying property in major cities, setting cities on fire,
we see violent threats against conservative voices, we see assassination
attempts against Donald Trump, and Democratic prosecutors look the other
way and act like it's no big deal, it's mostly peaceful.
And then you even have abortion and the devaluation of life.
Nazi Journey promoted abortion, interesting enough, Nazi Germany because that
(38:40):
allowed them to get rid of undesirable groups, the ones
they didn't because it had eugenic goals. And marx estates
like China enforced brutal abortion policies to control population and
so forth. So and the Democrats now basically make it
like it's an important thing, and it's just very interesting.
The analogo gifts behavior between these evil regimes of the
(39:03):
twentieth century and now what our Democratic Party has become.
Because if I were making this conversation in nineteen sixty three,
when John F. Kennedy were president, people would have said,
what the heck is that idiot talking about? And that
would have been correct at that time. It might have
been correct even later in maybe the seventies, or it
(39:23):
could have been true maybe in the eighties, you know,
it could have been true in the in the nineteen nineties,
but absolutely, But time we get to the twenty you know,
the twenty first century not true anymore. Basically, they hate
the Constitution, they admit they hate it, and why because
it reduces their ability to have power.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Georgie, it's them.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
He did a terrific jobs in lining all those things up.
There's one thing I think it could add to it. Mutilation,
mutilations and human of human beings. You know, that's something
that the Nazis said, that's something that liberals are for now.
Mutilating children, experimenting, experimenting, surgically, experimenting on children, trying to
(40:11):
take little boys and make them into little girls.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
The thing of it is, if all this has come
so fast fifteen years ago, which could you imagine have
having this kind of conversation today. Mutilation of human beings,
experimentation on children.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, yeah, this was not an issue then. I mean people,
even Democrats were like, what mutilating children? What you know?
But all of a sudden, now you're hateful if you
don't want to mutilate children.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
And that was part of the Nazi experiment. George, Yeah,
part of the experiments. All right, buddy, once again, we
do need to go to a break, and you are
listening to and watching New Conservative Commandos. I'm Maxuriator, my
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And welcome back.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with George Landeryth Andarmic Trader,
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stay tuned for those interviews in our next segments. And George,
I don't know what it is, but recently I have
come across three young men. I would say these young
men are very able bodied. They're in their twenties, they're
in their thirties, but there's something about them. They don't
(45:16):
want to seem to work. They don't want to seem
to work, and when you talk to them, they go, well,
I don't have to worry about healthcare, so I have
to get a job that has health care benefits. And
when they listen to the mantra coming from the left
that people that Americans are being cut from Medicare and
(45:40):
Medicaid once again, Georgia, this is a group of people
that are hearing the lies coming from the left are
buying into them. They're so detached from the idea of
working for a living that government is going to take
care of them. But now they're concerned about there, they're welfare,
(46:04):
their food samps, they're Medicaid is going to be taken
away from it. Again, these are able body young men
who don't want to work, who want to be provided,
but yet they're they're hearing what the media is saying
that twenty million Americans are going to be cut off
from medica from Medicaid. I'm wondering if you hit thoughts
about it, well.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I do. I think you've hit the nail on the head.
An example would be some of the debate over the
Big Beautiful Bill was that it was going to you know,
wreck Medicaid and like you said, cutting twenty million people off.
Of course, the vast majority of those be people who
were entitled to it. They weren't even American citizens. And
then of course some of them were people that were,
you know, able bodied but refusing to work. And I
(46:48):
think it's important to recognize that this is kind of
crazy because they claim that they cut Medicaid spending and
they didn't. They actually increased it by twenty percent over
ten years. Now there was two percent a year, and
you know, they and then on top of that, they
voted to increase medicaid, you know, like they've voted to
protect Medicaid by for example, Medicaid was designed for the needy,
(47:12):
for people who perhaps were needy or people who were
just not in a position to forward healthcare.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Well, you're an example of these three young men. They're
able body, and they they they are able body and
could go to work. They just don't want to go
to work, right because they know government is coming to
take care of them. They're on disability, they were unemployment.
You know, they they have no real incentive to go
to work. Oh, but but they want everyone else to
(47:41):
go to work to pay for their benefits.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Right, yeah, And they want to increase your taxes so
that you can pay for more people to stay home,
because you know that's the I don't want to work.
I just want people to pay for my food, and
pay for my rent and pay for my health care.
It's like, wait a minute, you know, I understand that
if somebody, for example, let's assume you have a soldier
that's been fighting for our country overseas to defend us
(48:04):
from terrorism, and a bomb goes off near him, and
so he's in a wheelchair and the rest of his
life he can't really do much because maybe even his
brain has been damaged by shrapnel and things like that.
So he's alive, but he's not healthy and strong. I
have no problem with the taxpayers of the United States
taking care to make sure that he is not starving,
(48:28):
not freezing to death, and not being denied healthcare. But
if you're strong and capable, and you just kind of say,
you know what, I like watching TV all day. I
like sleeping in all.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Day, playing video games all playing video games all day,
smoking a marijuana pipe all day. Law.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, And so I want other people to give me
rent money and to give me It's like, what, you know,
we're not responsible for you if you have the capacity.
And so I think that what they did was very
important because they actually protected Medicaid because what they said
was if you're able bodied but just choose not to work,
then you don't get to get money, because what does
(49:08):
that do Every person who's getting medicaid benefits who doesn't
need them but just wants them, then effectively is endangering
medicaid for those who actually need it. And so as
a result, this was a protection of medicaid, not a
destruction of medicaid, and I think that's very important. The
(49:28):
other course thing is they are trying to improve the economy,
which means that people will be able to get high
quality jobs, good paying jobs, and with good health quality
in high quality health care insurance, and so you know,
jobs are a good solution. I think it was Ronald
Reagan who said they're the best social program around. And
the Republicans were working to create an environment where our
(49:52):
economy could flourish again so that you wouldn't be it
could be that like under the Obama Obiden administration and
under COVID when we shut everything down, that there were
people who were able bodied who couldn't get jobs because
we basically just destroyed our economies in a stupid way.
But there the Republicans are trying to undo that. Who
(50:14):
did that? The leftist kooks, the Gavin Newsom's, the wretch
and Witnmers, the Kathy Halt Hudgels, and you know, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. It was not Donald Trump who
did that. It was the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
And the truth of it is, George, nobody in this
country is going to be medical care everybody. You know,
if they show up at a hospital waiting room, everybody
is going to be attended to. And George, I saw
this years years before Obamacare. This was back in the
nineteen nineties. I took my mother to the hospital to
(50:53):
the mercy room she had she was having a heart problem,
and I'm in a waiting room. And again this was
in the nineteen nineties. I'm in the waiting room of
the emergency room there and this young girl comes in.
She was like sixteen years old. She was there with
her mother. The mother didn't speak any English, they didn't
(51:15):
have any money, they didn't have any insurance. And I'm thinking,
while they're there for the mother, well they weren't. They
were there for the daughter. And what was wrong with
the daughter? She had lauryngitis. So she shows up at
an emergency room at a hospital and she without any money,
without any health insurance, was treated. She wasn't turned away.
(51:39):
Then she wouldn't be turned away. Now, you know what
we're trying, or what Donald Trump I do believe, is
trying to do this incentivize people to come here or
coming here illegally for things like free food, free housing,
free cell phones, and oh yeah, free medical care, free
(52:02):
medical care.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, we want to talk about the cuts. You're right
about benefits that may add up to roughly sixty or
seventy thousand dollars sounds like just outrageous wealth to you
in America, given what you know current costs of living are.
That doesn't necessarily mean you're wealthy. It probably means you're
struggling to be in the middle class perhaps. But the
point is from third world countries, that's like, oh my gosh.
(52:26):
You know, you see the commercials on TV. How if
you were only twelve cents a day you could feed
you know, a family in a third world country and
stuff like that. So it's like, well, so, yeah, I
went so when you promised them sixty thousand or seventy
thousand dollars worth of benefits a year in rental help
and in food stamps and medical care and everything else,
(52:47):
guess what, that's a huge draw. That's a huge men
have to come here.
Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, And you were talking about the cuts, and you're
right there, not cuts, they're just decreases of an increase, right,
Instead of it coming up eight percent, it's only going
to go up. The spending is only going to go
up six percent.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Where in the.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Final years instead of going up four percent, only going
to go up two percent. Only in the world of
the democrats, is is something like that called a cut
to reduction in the increase.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah. Like, I go in and talk to my boss
and I say, you know, when I was a young man,
I need to get a pay increase and I'd like
to get a ten percent pay increase. And he says, well,
we can't afford a ten percent pay increase. We'll give
you an eight percent pay increase. I go, you're cutting
my pay by two percent. Like yeah, at that point
he probably has to fire me because he just realized, Okay,
(53:42):
this guy's an idiot, and I'm war on and so forth,
because yeah, exactly the point you made is point on
dead right.
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Well, you're speaking about being a young man. We're reminded
by our friend Hans Van Spokoski from the Heritage Foundation
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(54:13):
to thank you for sitting in as my co host.
But before you go, talk a little bit about Frontiers Freedom.
What you guys are up to?
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Sure well, Frontiers of Freedom is a conservative public policy
think tank and we were founded by Senator Malcolm Walla,
who was a friend and ally of Ronald Reagan's. In fact,
we give out a Ronald Reagan Award periodically. And the
bottom line, I think you've been to one of our
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And the bottom line is that's where we come from
on the if you will, the political spectrum, and our
(54:46):
goal is to promote the Constitution, to promote promote individual rights,
and to make sure that America is a great nation,
and that I think is now understood to be America First.
But we've been around long enough where all that was
was kind of an old kind of normalcy. But we
now live in a world that's gone crazy, and so
you know, it's some people like like America First is dangerous,
(55:08):
it's hateful, it's like really liking our constitution. I guess
that means that John F. Kennedy was hateful, you know really.
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Well, today he would be ostracized from the Democratic Party,
much like Robert Kennedy Junior and tall Ce Gabbert soon
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It's a great foundation for society, all right.
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Speaker 1 (59:05):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders Radio
Show with George Flanders and You're true. Leebrick Trader comment
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as they say, the best lay plans of mice and
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had a guest lined up for this segment.
Speaker 4 (59:27):
That guest was.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Not able to make it, but we we called in
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please make that introduction.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
Absolutely. I always enjoy introducing our guests because of the
very best guest on TV and radio. And we've got
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He's also the received the Presidential Unit Citation and he
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(01:00:42):
also has a new book out, The Scent, The Highest
Form of Patriotism. So welcome back Rich to the Conservative Commandos.
We're glad to have you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Well, it's my pleasure and thank you so much for
having me on.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I wanted to ask you because, of course, the passing
the Pope is kind of an event that the whole
world his attention to, and because there are Catholics everywhere,
and so I guess the question would be, is what
is that it's come out of. I don't want to
be disrespectful of the Pope, but at the same time,
Pope Francis had a lot of things that he kind
of did that struck me as kind of like, say, what,
(01:01:18):
you know, maybe it was because he came from a
Marxist country or something like that that caused him to
be a little bit I thought odd at times. For example,
when I heard Pope John Paul speak, I always thought,
this man makes a lot of sense, And even though
I'm not personally a Catholic, I always respected him a
great deal and felt like he was a pretty powerful
spokesman for decent principles and you know, so forth, I
(01:01:42):
have to be honest, I didn't always feel that way
about Pope Francis. I sometimes thought, wow, thikes. So I
just wanted to ask you to help us understand what's
going on there, and what do you think the likely
outcome might be. You know, is there going to be
a swing back, as it were, to maybe a little
bit more kind of you know, Pope John Polish, or
do you think the next Pope is going to be
a lot like Ope Francis.
Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Well, first of all, I am a Catholic, so I'm
highly interested in what happens. I think what really struck
me was one of the first interviews Francis had was
when someone asked him about homosexual and his answer was,
(01:02:25):
who am I to judge? Well, right, then, it struck
me as a Catholic, as a statement that was harmful
to me as a Catholic. It struck it at the
heart of my religion. And if you remember Sodom and Gomorrah,
(01:02:48):
God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because it was what we
see now in a lot of blue states across America,
the defending of homosexuality, sadomy, including pederacity in the Catholic Church.
(01:03:11):
They are pederasts in the Catholic Church. They actually had
parties in the Vatican where they would invite young boys
and the priests and cardinals would have sex with them.
And this is not what I signed up for as
a Catholic. And I'll tell you why my father I
(01:03:34):
actually wouldn't be here if it wasn't for December seventh,
nineteen forty one. My father was actually in a seminary
to become a Catholic priest, and he decided after the
Japanese attack Pearl Harbor to leave the seminary and served
in the Army Air Corps throughout World War Two. But
he taught me, and of course my mother was Catholic.
(01:03:57):
We're both Polish. From Poland taught me that what it
means to be a Catholic. And and John and I'll
and I would agree with you absolutely, George, Saint John
Paul the Second was a true Catholic. He believed in family,
he believed in the Bible, He spoke the Bible, he
(01:04:20):
followed the Bible. Francis was totally the opposite. It's sort
of like, I don't want to make this political, but
it's sort of like Biden and Trump. I mean, they're
they're total opposites. Uh Neil. Trump believes in uh uh,
there's only two sexes, male and female. Biden was very
(01:04:44):
much in the in the in the corner of Paul Francis. Okay, So,
and what really bothers me about this is that at
they at the as the cardinals gather and they vote,
there are really two names that stand out as being
more like Pope John or actually Saint John Paul the Second.
(01:05:08):
And those two are interestingly, one is from Africa and
and uh not from Argentina, thank God, like like like
Francis was. But one of them is from Africa and
the other is from the United States. Of America. And
I think what's really important is that I hope these
(01:05:32):
two um men, these two cardinals are seriously considered for
the position of the pope ship, and that is Cardinal
Robert Sarah from Guinea and interestingly, Cardinal Raymond Burke from
(01:05:53):
the United States. Now I'm in the corner of I'm
not I know Cardinals Sarah was is is the total
opposite of Francis. I also know Cardinal Burke is the
total opposite of Francis. What I would love to see
is Cardinal Burke becomes a pope and that would be
(01:06:14):
the first time an American ever served as pope. So
I'm hoping and praying at this point and and that
that that happened. So they're both they're both great men,
They're both great. Their background, they were anti Francis. They
(01:06:36):
came out being anti Francis uh and everything he did.
So that's where I stand.
Speaker 15 (01:06:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
He was very This is this is a very pivotal
time because Francis was all for immigration, legal or not.
And that's been the downfall not only of Europe, it's
literally Christendom. It's literally been the downfall of Christendom. There
(01:07:05):
have been so many outsiders who are not Western civilized
come into Europe, all the nations of Europe that we
do not have a Christian Judeo Christian philosophy anymore in Europe.
(01:07:26):
It's more Islamic than it is and and Pop Francis
was behind all that. He was embracing Islam as if
as Christians were being murdered globally, murdered globally, not just
in Africa but in the Middle East by Islamics, Islamists
(01:07:50):
or followers of Mohammed, he would not stand up for
the Christian for the Catholics. He did not stand up
for the Catholics. And unfortunately there was just reagonally a
athletic church in France that was turned into a mont
It's silly, but anyway, that's just my my philosophy.
Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Well, that makes a lot of sense. I wanted to
ask you about the you know, I think Pope Francis
often sounded kind of Marxist, and I'm wondering, is that
because he came from a country that essentially had Marxist politics,
and so that's what he was familiar with and understood
(01:08:29):
and and so forth. Because I I'm thinking that up
to that point Pope's had been against totalitarianism and Marxism
because well, an example would be, uh, well, he was
at the time, of course, Pope John Paul now Saint
John Paul. But he worked with Ronald Reagan to help
(01:08:50):
to essentially defeat the communism that was destroying you know,
Eastern Europe, and and he was influential in that way.
And I'm thinking to myself, that's not something that you know,
Pope Francis would have done. He seemed to be kind
of friendly to the idea of totalitarianism and you know,
(01:09:10):
communism and stuff, and so I don't know what what
made him like that. Was it just kind of where
he's from or what.
Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Well, there was a movement decade decades before, you know
when when when when Francis was a priest, there was
a movement by the KGB too put into the priesthood
(01:09:40):
like minded individuals and they did. Now I'm not saying
Francis was one of them, but he acted like one
of them. Now, Argentina, at the time he was there
was definitely communist. That has changed now with the new
UH President of argent He's he's he's hardcore, like he
(01:10:02):
comes he comes to mere Lago more than he says
in his in his place in Argentina. But he is
loved by the people. Uh so is the president of
El Salvador.
Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Who problems that Argentina was experiencing.
Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Yes, I mean, but so, all I'm saying is that
definitely pro Pope Francis sided with the Marxist Leninist philosophy,
which is totally anti Catholic. It is not what Jesus wanted.
It's not what the God of Abraham wanted. Uh, it's
(01:10:41):
what the Jews and Jesus, the greatest rabbi ever fought against.
They fought against the Roman Empire. So and that was
a totalitarian system. And literally that's what the Bible is
based on. It's based on the freedom that the Rabbi
(01:11:05):
Jesus of Nazareth, for only three years preached to every when, everyone,
everywhere he went, until he was crucified, buried, and rose
from the dead. So it's it's a special time for
me that this is happening. Not too far. He actually
died right after he met with Vice President jd. Vance,
(01:11:30):
which was on Easter Sunday. He died on Easter Monday,
So maybe God was sending a message. I'm hoping God
was sending a message to those that are meeting in
Rome right now and deciding on the next pope.
Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Very interesting, lots of good place for us to take
a quick break. There's, of course, lots more to discuss,
so folks don't go away because the Conservative commandos with
Rick Trader and George Landreth and our special guest doctor
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Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Doctor Rich, thank you, thank you for holding through that break.
We appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
You know, Rich, I also, being Catholic, was not crazy
about Pope Francis. But I got to say, my friend,
you made an outrageous statement in the in the beginning
of the interview with George when you talked about orgies
taking place in the Vatican, sex between priests and boys
(01:16:24):
and whatever. And where do you where did you get
that information?
Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Where does that information come?
Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Well, there there are there were a number of bishops
and Catholics that actually were working in the Vatican, and
I've written about it over the years. It's it's a
sad situation that were pederasts. What I mean by a pederass, No,
we all know what a pedophile is, okay, But what
a pedirash is is a male who seeks out the
(01:16:53):
sex with underage boys or a female who seeks to
have sex with an underage girl. So there were there
were situations where a number of cardinals and bishops that
were in the Vatican were discovered to do this. And
what did they do with them? Did they punish them?
(01:17:15):
Did they cast them out? Did they dethrone them? Did
they take away all of their honors, all of their benefits,
all of that? No, what did they do? They quietly
moved them into private quarters, bought them a house, and
continue to pay them under Francis. I hope the new
(01:17:35):
pope shuts that off.
Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Well, Rich, you see, do you realize that eighty percent
of the cardinals and that eight of the cardinals were
appointed by Francis. Do you realize, well, so to expect
that we're going to get another pope that's going to
be more like John Saint John Paul the Second than Francis.
(01:17:59):
I think you know, it's ranch. It's a lot like
what happens in government, our government with the presidents and judges.
You know, you've got a president who's nominated you. In fact,
in the last sixteen years, twelve of those years have
been dominated by Democrats.
Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
Of course, Barack.
Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Obama and Joe o'biden they were in office for twelve years,
and then Donald drump up to the last three months
had four years. So you had twelve years of Democrats
appointing judges. And I think you've got a very similar
situation in the Vatican now that you have. Pope Francis
has been in office for so long that a lot
(01:18:44):
of the older cardinals have either died off or retired,
and Francis nominated cardinals in his own image. So I
think it's going to be very tough to get a
conservative pope.
Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Well, and I agree with you. I absolutely agree with you.
You're absolutely spot one. That's why I'm concerned that we
will see because of that situation, because he was the one.
It's just like now Trump won the electron and he
(01:19:20):
wanted because we needed to drain the swamp. I'm hoping
what I'm praying for is that those who were not,
even though they were nominated by Francis. Will see the
writing not on the wall but in the Holy Bible.
Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Doctor Richt, I met my friend. I think that swishful
thinking on your part. In fact, you've got another article
when doctor rich swire dot com report German Cardinal Hope's
new pope will blacktrack on Islam and lgbt Q issues.
This is German Cardinal Gerhart Mueller stated a critical at
(01:20:00):
a critical point that although he was generally in favor
of dialogue, any form of relativism has to be avoided.
But he wants he wants the new pope to even
go further to the left than what Francis was. He
(01:20:20):
wants to be more accepting of LBGTQ issues, he wants
to be more accepting of Islam. And I just don't
think that those views, doctor rich are comparatible with what
the Roman Catholic Church should be and used to be.
Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
I agree, and I think that while I'm going to
guess that President Trump made his views known to a
variety of people in the Vatican about how the Catholic
Church has fallen literally fallen from grace, literally fallen from grace.
(01:21:06):
The only thing we Catholics can do is to pray
that they are enlightened by the words in the Bible
and that they disavow this embracing of sodomy and embracing
of a religion that wants all Catholics dead, all non
(01:21:28):
believers dead. And they're not only wanting it, they're doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Regie, God bless you for praying. And I agree with prayer.
But I think the other thing that right thinking Catholics
must do is if we get a pope who wants
to accept Islam, who wants to accept gay rights, they've
got to they've got to show their displeasure with their wallet.
(01:21:58):
They've got to cut off the Vatican. And I hate
to say this, cut off the church from funding it.
You got to make the church scream. And now I think,
doctor Rich, that's the only way that that influence might
be thought, you know, in prayer and cut off, cut
(01:22:18):
cut off funding to the church, cut off funding. And
I hate to say this, I really hate to say this,
and I really do believe Rich that if this comes
to pass, we're going to see the church diminish quite
a bit in size.
Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
I mean, the.
Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Church's church attendance has been on a downward trend and
then with the Wuhan fluid went.
Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Into a downward, downward spiral.
Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
And I don't think a lot of people have come
back to the church since the Wuhan Flew fraud.
Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
I think the church is in big trouble.
Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
I agree with you, Rich, but I think that this
maybe if you get a real liberal pope was to
embrace lisram Uh Islam wants to embrace LBGTQ issues. Once
to embrace illegal immigration, people are going to walk What
people are left in the church are going to walk away.
Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Well, what I fear is if we do in Europe,
we're going to have a second another Holocaust, and that
Holocaust is not going to be from the Nazis. It's
going to be from the Islamis that are already in
the streets calling for the implementation of sharia law. We
(01:23:44):
just had a matter of fact, just before Pope. It's
interesting not only was it the Easter week they was
on the decline, but it was also we were celebrating Holocaust.
And you have to understand and not German. My father's cousin.
My father's cousin was a twenty two year old factory
(01:24:07):
worker in not the occupied Germany. He was he told
a joke about the Germans. He just told a joke
about the Germans. The next day that Gestapo came into
the factory, arrested him, took him to Auchwitz and executed him.
You have to understand that right now there's a holocaust
(01:24:31):
going on, not only of Jews globally, we're seeing it
on college campuses, we're seeing it around the world, but
also of Catholics and Christians. And if we get a
if we don't get a pope that is very much
(01:24:51):
in the image of Saint John Paul, there will be
a Holocaust, I believe in Europe, not in the United States.
In Europe, there will be a second Holocaust, and it
will be led by those who there was a deeter.
Bonhoeffer said said something very important. Not to speak is
(01:25:13):
to speak, not to not to act is to act.
And what we're seeing in Europe is the cardinals and
the bishops and the priests are not speaking and they're
not acting. And they need to be on the forefront
of restoring Christianity in Europe. And I'm concerned that we
(01:25:36):
will see a massive, very dangerous, very deadly I mean
for the boroughs in London. Are the elected heads of
those boroughs are all Muslim. The capital of London is
a Muslim.
Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
New Jersey, you've got Patterson, New Jersey that's primarily a
Muslim city. Now, doctor you know, Doctor Richard, we're going
to need to wrap this up in a couple of
minutes because we do have a heartbreak. But I wanted
to bring up the fact that there are two areas
in the world that the Church is growing. We know,
we know it's diminishing in Europe, we know it's diminishing
(01:26:16):
in North America. Where it's increasing is in Africa and
in Hispanic America Mexico, Central and South America.
Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
And they're socialist areas, Doctor rich.
Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
You know, so if you look, if you look for
the the Church to want to appease their masses, I
don't think they're going to want to appease their masses
in Europe and in North America. They're going to want
to appease the masses where they're growing. And again that's
in Hispanic America and in Africa.
Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
I wanted to get your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Well, we're seeing, We're seeing, we are seeing both in
Europe and in Ireland and other cities, Marches and Germany
major marches of Christians industries wanting their countries back.
Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Their countries are the religion.
Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Well they may not be all religious, but they want
their country back. They want do not want these foreigners
in there who are destroying their countries, that are taking
their welfare, much like what happened in the last four
years of Buiden administration. And they're sick and tired of it.
I think they're waking up. We hope that they have
an influence on what happens in the Vatican, but we'll see.
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them on the show. Great to have him back. And George,
please make that introduction.
Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Absolutely always a pleasure to introduce our guests, because we
have the very best guests on TV and radio, and
we've got Wayne Cruz here to prove it to you.
Wayne is the Fred L. Smith Fellow in Regulatory Studies
at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. In his work, he explores
the impact and the costs of government regulation and also works,
(01:32:25):
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Cato Institute, and also he was at the US Senate
and the Food and Drug Administration. So he has a
(01:33:08):
lot of experience and a lot of different angles to
understand what's going on. So Wayne, welcome back to the
Conservative Commandos. We're very glad to have you.
Speaker 15 (01:33:17):
I'm very happy to be here. Thank you so much
for thinking of me. I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
I wanted to ask you because most of us are
very familiar with the phrase the ten Commandments, but you
all have a study called ten thousand Commandments, and it's basically,
I think, picking up or pointing out the idea. And
I forget exactly which philosopher it was that said this,
but he pointed out that when a government has too
many commandments or laws and regulations, that it basically starts
(01:33:46):
screwing everything up. And it's not that it has to
be only ten, but by the time you get to
ten thousand, you are way, way, way overboard. So I
wanted to ask you to help us understand the study
that you've done, because when I've read it, I always
think of myself, Wow, this is very insightful, and they've
really done a good job of looking at this. So
wuayne educate us here.
Speaker 15 (01:34:06):
Well. I really appreciate that, George. The ten thousand Commandments
report is a compilation I started doing you mentioned working
at the Senate. I did it back in those days. Look,
we know what the however much we may be frustrated
by federal spending. For example, we know this year the
federal government is going to spend seven trillion dollars and
(01:34:27):
have a two trillion dollar deficit, even not in wartime
and not in crisis time like we were in COVID.
We can be frustrated by federal spending and the debt,
but George, at least we can look that up. The
same has never been true for the vast sweep of
the regulatory state. And I'm talking about environmental regulations, health
(01:34:48):
and safety regulations, labor, paperwork, energy, all of the financial
all of these vast interventions of the federal government that
are like a hidden tax. We know the individual in
income tax, the corporate income tax, but we don't see
the hidden tax of regulation, which comes in the form
of lost productivity, lost jobs, compliance costs, and so forth.
(01:35:11):
At this point in doing the ten thousand Commandments report,
and there are a lot more than ten thousand, by
the way, but the federal agencies already put out around
three thousand rules and regulations every single year, while Congress
puts out this past year one hundred and seventy five laws.
I call that the unconstitutionality index. You've got nineteen regulations
(01:35:32):
from unelected bureaucrats for every one law that comes out
of Congress. So they're pumping out regulations like chocolate bunnies,
and I'm trying to wrap my hands around that. So
three thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Rules a year.
Speaker 15 (01:35:45):
Last year, Joe Biden, his final calendar year, had one
hundred and five thousand pages in the Federal Register. That
is a knockout record cosmic levels of regulations being published
in the Federal Register. Donald in his first term had
gotten that count down to around sixty thousand. But we
always have these thousands of rules every year. I'm trying
(01:36:07):
to tabulate it with this report and kind of make
it like the historical tables of the US of the
federal government. You know, you can look up, you know,
historical records on the debt, the deficit, outlayser sipts and
all of that. Trying to do a little bit like
that for regulations and my placeholder for regulatory costs this year. Now,
I'm not a central planner. I don't think I know
(01:36:27):
what regulatory costs are because that's largely you know, experienced
by the one having to pay the compliance or by
the jobs lost or the productivity loss. We're not central planners.
We don't know exactly what those dollar values are Nonetheless,
I use a placeholder of two point one five five
trillion this year. Put that in perspective. I mentioned that
(01:36:47):
two trillion dollar debt deficit, regulations the same, the same magnitude.
Individual income taxes last year approximately two trillion, similar to
the regulatory costs. Corporate pre tax profits three point five trillion,
So regulatory costs are sixty percent of that. Corporate income
taxes around five hundred billions, So regulatory costs four times
(01:37:09):
what corporation's paying income taxes. So those are just some
of the ways I try to put a face on it,
if you will. I mean, you know, with three thousand
rules coming out every year, there, you know, they're a
lot more than ten thousand. And it's even worse than that,
because it's not just you know, the few dozen laws
from Congress and then the three thousand rules and regulations
(01:37:30):
from agencies, but especially in the environmental realm and financial regulations,
these agencies are putting out what I've taken to calling
regulatory dark matter. And Trump had addressed some of this
in his first term, which is great, and I hope
he does it again. But these are the guidance documents,
the policy statements, the notices, the bulletins, memoranda, circulars, administrative interpretations.
(01:37:53):
You know, I put together a word cloud on this stuff.
There's just so much of it, and so those are
things I'm trying to tabulate, you know, with with Trump
putting figures out or requiring agencies to do portals on
guidance documents, it was a big breakthrough. But when Biden
came in, he did what he called modernizing regulatory review,
which meant getting rid of it altogether, and he wiped
(01:38:15):
out the entire Trump reform agenda. Now Trump is back
and he's ramping it back up again, and maybe we
can talk about that a little bit too, but I'll
pause right there.
Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Well, no, that's very helpful. I want to I think
I saw that the you know, just to put this in,
if you will, tangible understanding. Because we talk about trillions
of dollars. Most people's eyes plays over because they don't
know what that means. But as I understand it, that
translates to about sixteen thousand dollars per household family. So yeah,
(01:38:45):
and I'm thinking to myself, so let's say you make
seventy six thousand dollars a year. Of course you pay
taxes on that, you know, sales tax and other thing,
and they take maybe a quarter of what you made,
but off the the very top, that means sixteen thousand.
So you're before you even have to pay all that
taxes and other things that get taken out of your paycheck,
you're going to pay sixteen thousand dollars in terms of
(01:39:08):
either lost opportunity or higher cost for goods and services
because of all the regulations that exist. And I'm thinking
to myself, if Trump promises to get rid of some
of those, that's a way to help us have you know,
it's kind of like lowering your taxes that helps too.
It's er I've always felt like the regulation was a
(01:39:29):
way for the formig government to tax us without being
blamed for taxing us, because when you know, if they
pass a tax bill, you know when you pay it,
you've got proof you paid it and you know how
much it was. The problem with regulatory costs are you
don't know, like you get your electric bill and maybe
your electric bill is twice as high as it used
(01:39:49):
to be because of a bunch of stupid electrical policies
that they put in place in regulations. But guess what
the bill A mail you in the mail does not say,
you know, well, half your bill here is because of regulations.
You just you think it's maybe all of the electric
company's ripping me off.
Speaker 15 (01:40:07):
Yeah, that's right. That's why it's very insidious. And that's
why I kind of call it a hidden tax. And
you really hit on that because it's varied in the
cost of things that we buy and the services that
we purchase. It that we purchase, you know, it's in
terms of higher prices due to lost jobs and due
to lower productivity. So it's very, very difficult to get at.
(01:40:27):
I think the problem is not you know, the question
ought not to be should we try to tabulate regulatory costs,
but whether you do it top down or bottom up?
And I think there's some advantages or disadvantages to doing both.
But we have to acknowledge, George, that we really have
to have Congress be accountable for this stuff, because you
said that, you know, they can get by with doing
(01:40:49):
a regulation rather than a tax, and it's true because
the two are substitutes for each other. And as it stands,
you know, the joke always goes, you know, you can
have a member of Congress you know, stand up in
front of the Greenies, the Sierra Clubs, in these other
entities and say I voted for Clean Air Act amendments,
and then walk across the street to the Chamber of
(01:41:09):
Commerce and say the EPA and the Energy Department are
out of control with these new regulations. And so it
lets them play both sides. One of the solutions to it,
since we know we're never going to perfectly solve the
problem of tabulating regulatory costs, but we still need to
drive I favor regulatory budgeting, sunsetting and all these sorts
of things. But we have to have Congress approve the
(01:41:33):
major rules that really wants to see and act it.
In other words, right now, if Congress wants to disapprove
a regulation from an agency, given the Congressional Review Act,
they can do that, but Congress has to get up
on its hind legs and stop the rule that's coming through.
The proper way to do it is and it restores
accountability to Congress, and the Article one restoration of power
(01:41:56):
to Congress and the authority to Congress is to have
Congress approve regulations to affirm the costly or expensive ones.
So that way, even if we don't you know if
that cost of regulation is bigger than everything in the
family budget except for housing. But if we don't know
exactly what it is, at least we need to make
Congress accountable for it, because they're the ones who we
(01:42:17):
vote for. We don't get to vote for the bureaucrats.
Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Yeah, they make a good point. I find it kind
of Finney. A list of people get upset about Elon
Musk because he's unelected, but they don't seem to mind
the other ten thousand federal employees that aren't saving your
money but are spending your money, and they're unelected too,
and they're regulating your life and so forth. So it's
kind of an interesting, well hypocrisy as it were, Sure
(01:42:43):
is it?
Speaker 15 (01:42:44):
We could tell? At least in the case of Monsk,
we know.
Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Who he is.
Speaker 15 (01:42:47):
In the Biden administration, nobody seems to know who what's
running things.
Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
That's a good point. That's true in terms of, you know,
as America was growing and becoming a very you know,
economic superpower, we had smaller government, and so basically the
market and innovation and competition helped push us from a
phase when we were just thirteen insignificant colonies that did
(01:43:17):
not have, you know, much money or much power to
the world's economic superpower. So I wanted to ask you,
is this part of the reason why maybe we've seen
the economy slow down and why we see ourselves kind
of in a situation where sure we still have a
big economy and we're still an important part of the
(01:43:37):
world economy, but we're no longer you know, like the
American dreams seemed to be dying, and yeah, I wanted
to ask you, is this part of the problem.
Speaker 15 (01:43:46):
Yeah, the you know, the early America was very less
a fair you might say. I mean you obviously from
the very beginning you had those like Alexander Hamilton who
wanted an American plan with tariffs, protective tariffs and income
tax and subsidies and all those sorts of things. But
now the federal government is very, very highly interventionist. I
mean at this point, well, look what happened during COVID
(01:44:09):
you had the Cares Act was enacted. That was trillions
of dollars. I remember Trump sitting there getting ready to
sign the Cares Act and he looks up at Mitch
McConnell and says, Mitch, this has got a Tea on it.
I've never signed anything this big. I guess it's too
late to turn back now, and everybody nervously laughs in
the room in the Oval office as he signs it.
But after that, we've had this huge fusion of spending
(01:44:32):
and regulation that I think gets at what you're talking
about and slows things down. Because after the Cares Act,
then you had the American Rescue Plan, you had the
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, you had the Bipartisan Chips and Science Act,
and you had the Inflation Law. And these sorts of
things are huge, huge spending bills that are already regulatory
(01:44:55):
and interventionists even before the administrators and regulators later picked
up their pins. So even though I've spent my whole
career fighting over delegation, the last few years especially, and
it's always been true though we've had this administrative state
for one hundred years, but the last few years have
really brought it into sharp reliefs that the federal government
(01:45:17):
and that Congress itself, it's not just that Congress over delegates,
but it totally disregards its own enumerated powers, and now
everything from local tap water in Flint, Michigan, to potential
asteroid mining and commercial spaceflight is a government business project
rather than free enterprise capitalism like we had back in
(01:45:38):
the nineteenth century, as you're talking about. So I think
you know, the government is not a wealth creating entity.
It's a force wielding entity, and it makes things. It
slows down productivity, and it undermines the emergence of the
things we need, like property rights, evolution, and airsheds and
watersheds and low earth orbit and how we allocate drone airspace.
(01:46:02):
We ought to just dump it into eighty year old
FAA air space, but we ought to develop new kinds
of property rights. And you know from your work that
matters a lot in terms of land use and resource
allocation and things like that. The more the federal government
is involved, like it is, the worse it makes it
for free enterprise capitalism to be able to gain a
foothold but also to create the wealth that it's famous for.
Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
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Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
Smith Fellow in Regulatory Studies at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Hey, Wayne,
thank you for holding through that break. We really do
appreciate your time in. Before we get talking about government
regulations or maybe we can talk about how to get
rid of them, tell us a little bit about the CEI, the.
Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
Competitive Enterprise Institute. What you all do?
Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (01:50:51):
CI was founded in George Orwell's year nineteen eighty four.
Our founder is Fred L. Smith, and I bear the
title of the Fellowship in his name. CEI was started
because Fred recognized the need for the importance of free enterprise,
the need for business to support free enterprise as such.
And at that time there were a lot of groups
(01:51:13):
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international policy, foreign policy, not so much devoted exclusively to regulation,
and so Fred started CEI working on environmental policy. Antitrust
issues were a big, early, big early issue for CEI,
and now financial policy and the work I do antitrust
(01:51:36):
issues are still really important. A whole slate of work
that we do on environmental policy and energy policy. And
my interest has always been and still is the general
scope of regulation. How regulation overall, across all the sectors
affects the economy and affects the public and how we
might roll it back. So that's what we're doing, and
you can find CEI's work just very EASYCI dot or org.
Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Hey wait, these regulations, there have got to be some
of them that are useful.
Speaker 15 (01:52:08):
MH.
Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
Is this correct?
Speaker 15 (01:52:10):
Oh yeah, I would put it this. I put it
this way, Rick. It's not that we never have the
choice of not being regulated. The question is whether whether free,
whether competitive discipline is what makes more sense, or whether
political discipline is what makes sense.
Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
I joke.
Speaker 15 (01:52:27):
Sometimes you know that all tainted meat was approved by
the USDA just just because you think of a value.
And the left loves to do this. They they love
to think up a value and then name a government
agency about it and then think they're the caretakers of
that value. In free enterprise, it doesn't mean you just
get to run around. I'm talking about rule of law.
(01:52:48):
Doesn't mean you just get to run around poisoning baby
food bottles or doing whatever you want to do running roughshot.
In free enterprise, you've got a lot of discipline that
goes away under regulation. To free enterprise, you have upstream
business suppliers, downstream business customers, consumers, Wall Street advertisers, the media,
(01:53:09):
all sorts of forces are arrayed against companies that misbehave,
and often what regulations do is wipe that out and
replace it with government standards that remove from the competitive marketplace.
Because remember, free enterprise isn't just making the product or
service and creating wealth there, but it's also creating wealth
in the form of the risk management devices and innovations
(01:53:32):
that emerge alongside the innovation. So we need that in
areas like AI and robotics and new forms of energy
and things like that, and regulation can hurt that. And
just a quick example of a horrible outcome if you
bought an EPA gas can lately, if you've went to
Walbarter Home depot and bought a gas can, You've got
to have three hands to operate these things. It's ridiculous,
(01:53:54):
and you spill gas everywhere. Imagine if you know just
something as simple as that up by government agency, what
they can do to the big things.
Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Well, but then you wouldn't have all those YouTube videos
how to work around those guess casts. Hey, Wayne, this
is incredible. Two trillion dollars costs of over two trillion dollars,
the average cost of sixteen thousand for US household. Wayne
that's more than I get each year on Social Security.
Speaker 4 (01:54:23):
Can you give us.
Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
I'm serious about that, I am serious about that. Could
you give us an idea of specific ideas of regulations
and what they what specifically they would cost it an
individual or an individual household like the Trader Lodge residents.
Speaker 15 (01:54:43):
Yeah, some of the worst. You know, we talked earlier
about the indirect effects of regulation, and I think all
that matters a lot. But look at what just for example,
corporate average fuel economy standards potentially adding thousands of dollars
to the price of a car, or those goofy you know,
it's not just something like those goofy gas cans that
cost you more and they don't work. You'd be better
(01:55:05):
off with the milk jug. But the Department of Energy
has been aggressive with its forcing you to buy dishwashers
that don't clean. You have to hand wash the dishes
before you put them in washing machines vertical that don't
work very well and they get mildewed inside. And any
of those kinds of interventions can end up costing the public.
(01:55:25):
You end up paying more for the appliances and so forth,
and then not get just not getting a value, but
the government it's very, very reluctant to roll things back.
So those are you know, those are just some good
some examples. And you know, interventions in say anti trust
can can sidestep or create distortions and inefficiencies, inefficiencies in
(01:55:48):
the economy, regulation in the financial sector can make access
to credit more difficult, things like that. But all of
those costs, you know, there's it's hard to put key
dollar amounts on them, but it's but you know they're there.
And that's that's one of the things and why it's
so important for Congress to approve this stuff and not
just let agencies run around and do it.
Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Willie Nelly, all right, Wait, in this report you are
quoted as saying the Trump administration and Congress can together
can lift regulatory burdens and.
Speaker 4 (01:56:18):
Achieve ambitious reforms.
Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Talk with this about what the president can do, what
can Congress do?
Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
What can reforms? Do you recommend?
Speaker 15 (01:56:29):
Well, some quick ones. The last time we had reforms, gentlemen,
was a generation ago. Bill Clinton was president, and we
had New Gingrich in the House, and we had all
of the nation's governors and state and local Wait.
Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
Didn't we wait, Wayne didn't we have some reforms in
in Trump's first administration, didn't he Saynation, We're going to
go Nelly's saying for everyone can What happened to those?
Speaker 15 (01:56:57):
Yeah, there you go. I'm talking about legislative reforms that stick.
And so we had back then, we had the Congressional
Review Act, Small Business Reform Act, Unfunded Mandates Reform Act.
Those were legislative reforms that stuck. When Trump did his
first term, he did one in, two out, and guess what.
As soon as Biden came in, he issued a series
(01:57:19):
of orders under the rubric of modernizing Regulatory Review, which
meant getting rid of regulatory review, and so he wiped
out Yeah, that's right, and so he wiped out Trump's
one end, two out. Now Trump is doing one in,
ten out and a few and several, just a slate
of other reforms. Some of them involved DOGE to the
(01:57:39):
Department of Government Efficiency, but others don't because remember DOGE
goes away in a year. So there's got to be
things that cement this beyond. But working with Congress is important.
There's legislation to implement a permanent form of DOGE that
would do kind of what you might regard as regulatory
reduction Commissions. There's legislation to force Congress to vote to
a major rules. There's legislation to sunset rules and regulation
(01:58:04):
so to go away unless agencies actively approve them and
put them back out for public comment. And the things
I'd mentioned to you about regulatory dark matter, there's legislation
proposed to address some of that. In this environment, very
difficult for that kind of bipartisan legislation to get through,
but we you know, potentially we could get lucky because
when there's economic downturns, you know, that makes business come
(01:58:26):
to Washington and demand reforms, no matter who they're elected
official in their particular district or state is.
Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
Wr and we really do appreciate you joining us here
in the Conservative Commandos. You know, thank god for groups
like CEI to highlight these things to the public, because
I don't think the public totally understands all the regulations
that they're governed by. And thank god there are people
like you and the other good people at CEI that
are keeping track of this for us. And we've been
(01:58:57):
discussing this. This report ten thousand Commandments, the Report on
Federal Regulatory Burdens identifies problems or reforms. Wayne, Where can
our listeners and viewers see the entire report?
Speaker 15 (01:59:16):
Very simple, Just go to CEI dot org and you could.
You can search ten thousand commandments there as well as
fine to all of my other colleagues. Great work, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Wayne Cruise CI Competitive Enterprise Institute.
Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
Wayne.
Speaker 1 (01:59:31):
We want to greatly thank you for being with us today.
And it took a little bit to get together, but
we did and I appreciate you but your patience with us.
And again before you go, give out that website one
more time.
Speaker 15 (01:59:45):
Yes, CEI dot org.
Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
CEI dot org, Wayne Cruise.
Speaker 15 (01:59:51):
So much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
Oh, our pleasure, our pleasure. Thank you so much for
joining us. Take care and God bless and you are
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And George, welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Well, thank you. This is the place to be, so
I'm very happy to be here.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Hey, George, did you ever go to Jeffrey Epstein's island
Paradise Town?
Speaker 3 (00:57):
There?
Speaker 1 (00:59):
I mean, are you? I'm sick of hearing about this, George.
It seems what's really bugging me is with all the
good things happening in the Trump administration, seems like the
Republicans are falling into the trap of the Democrats by
actually talking about this. Why did it get your feelings?
Speaker 2 (01:19):
Well, you make a good point one, No, I was
never there, but answer, Yeah, I know you're shocked by that.
But on the other hand, the other thing that I think,
you know is interesting is that for years the mainstream
press and Democrats didn't talk about the Jeffrey Epsteam thing much.
It was just kind of like not a big deal,
(01:40):
aside from occasionally they would accuse certain Republicans of, you know,
maybe having gone there, but they didn't have any evidence
of that. They just used it politically occasionally, but basically
it was kind of like a non topic. But interesting. Now,
that's all I want to talk about, and I think
people who supported President Trump might want to recognize that
(02:01):
there could very well be a rational reason why not
much is going on here, because for years, the Biden
administration and it's the corrupt DJ had all the files,
and it could very well be we know for a
fact that people like the January sixth Committee destroyed all
the evidence that they had because what did it prove
that the narrative they were telling was false? And so
(02:24):
it could very well be that Joe Biden did exactly
the same thing, or not personally him because he probably
wasn't smart enough to do that, but that his administration
did the same thing. And so I think it's important
that we recognize that it could very well be when
we start hearing that, you know, they can't find a list.
They may have files of things that tell them certain things,
(02:46):
but they may not actually have a client list, and
that's not necessarily a lie. And some people are, oh,
they're lying about them. Really, So you think that Joe
Biden would have allowed that list to survive since we
know for a fact that many Democrats were on that list,
Because after all, we know what the January sixth Committee did.
(03:07):
They hid all their evidence of obstruction of justice, of
perjury and lying under oath and so forth, and so
why wouldn't the Epstein files have had the same impact.
And you can't unshred documents once they've been destroyed and disposed.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
Of, Right, Georgia, It seems to me that the Democrats
always seem to run the narrative.
Speaker 4 (03:32):
And let's go back to.
Speaker 1 (03:34):
The Clinton impeachment. You know, the Clinton impeachment was all
about he lied under oath, and yet all the media
wanted to talk about, well, this is all about sex,
and what two people do between themselves shouldn't have any
bearing any bearing on how the country is governed. All right,
(03:57):
and that if it's never any thing else except sex.
But now, now, oh okay, let's say let's say Trump's
name is on that list. Let's say that trump name
is all through that. By the way, I even seen
something on Yahoo today, and we need to talk about
(04:18):
sleazy operations. Yahoo is one of them. They're even talking
about Milania being mentioned in the Epstein files. Now, Milania
being mentioned in the Epstein files. Now, George, everything is
about the Epstein files. And it really really shows one thing,
really shows a couple of things. Number One, the Republicans
(04:40):
always let the Democrats run the narrative, which I think
is wrong. Number Two, it also shows how little the
Democrats have to talk about that all their policies are bad,
all their policies that are onside it are on the
side of the eighty twenty argument. They really have no vision.
(05:05):
They really don't have any exciting candidates out there to
speak of. That the only thing, the only thing that
they can talk They can't talk about the economy anymore,
they can't talk about egg prices anymore. The only thing
that they can talk about is the Jeffrey Epstein Files.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah. Well, one thing's for sure, I've never seen the files. So,
but how do I know that Donald Trump's not on them?
Because during the four years of the well Biden administration,
the lawfair that went on, the lies to courts, the
various efforts that were done to use lawfair to unravel
(05:45):
his ability to run for president. If his name was
on a file like that, they may not have wanted
to release the whole file itself, but they would have
definitely released his name and the proof they had that
he was one of Jeffreys Epstein's regular attendees. And they
didn't do that. Why because it's not there, and so
(06:07):
they might be willing to infer it, but they would,
I guarantee you if they had evidence that he had
done that, we would have known about it and it
would have been in the news for four straight years
non stop.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
I don't know about the validity of the files, says
the r Nail. I believe that they could very very
well be corrupted. You talked about removing evidence, removing documents.
How about this idea, what kind of documents could have
been added?
Speaker 2 (06:38):
That's a good point.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
What kind of what kind of doc could have been
You know, these these files were in the control of
the BID.
Speaker 2 (06:45):
Was based on the idea of the manufacturing of false evidence,
and so you're right. They could have created a file,
they could have created the you know, they could have
included your my name on there too, just because we
don't like what the conscers of the commandos say, Let's
see if we can detegrate them, you know what I mean.
But that doesn't mean it's true, because neither you nor
(07:05):
I ever were invited, nor did we ever go, nor
had we been willing to go, because that's not who
we are. And so you're right. You cannot only hide
and destroy evidence. You can manufacture evidence. And we've seen
this from the Obama people and the Obiden people beginning
(07:26):
as early as the Russian collusion hoax.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
George, I think there's another piece of evidence pretty well
shows that Donald Trump's name were involmit with Gepsy Jeffrey Epstein.
Probably isn't there. Where are all the women? Where are
all the women that Donald Trump would have had contact.
Speaker 2 (07:46):
With the through Who's the prince from England? Was it?
I don't think who it was.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Wasn't Charles. It was Charles's brother, Yeah, Charles's brother. But anyhow,
how do we find out that he was there. Was
that list that was out on the list? The answer
is no. It was that the some of the underaged
women that were victims of this crime, they recognized him
and so they talked about him because of course he
(08:18):
was royalty and so forth, so he was a well
known person. Donald Trump's pretty well known so and he's
also he doesn't necessarily look like a thousand other people.
When you see a picture of Donald Trump, you know
exactly who it is. So if Donald Trump had been
there multiple times and had engaged in this sort of behavior,
there would be women who were there and would be say,
(08:40):
wait a minute, I know that guy. He was there.
So again, at some point they may come up with
someone who claims that just because they're paid him on
the side, you know what I mean, kind of like
the crazy person who accused Neil was it not Gorsuch?
It was, yeah, that's right, right of sex assault or
(09:00):
something like that, and she's made up that garbage. And
the evidence now is pretty clear that it was made up.
But at the time they were able to sell it
for a little bit at least and get it in
the papers and so forth. So the bottom line is
you're exactly right, that there's really no reason to believe this.
And at this point, even if they come up with something,
it's going to be manufactured because if it was there,
(09:24):
we would have known about it because this is from
years ago.
Speaker 1 (09:27):
So George, as we started out this conversation by saying
that Republicans have a lot of success to talk about,
do you think that Donald Trump should continue to talk
about their successes and leave his defense not being involved
with Jeffrey Epstein up to the George Landras and Rick
(09:50):
Traders of the world.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Perhaps, I mean it may make occasionally, he probably has
to because sometimes if you never say no, I didn't
do that. You know, if someone accused you and I
of robbing bank this afternoon and we'd be like, no,
we didn't, we may not invest a lot of time
to defend ourselves against the allegation because it's kind of obviously.
I was like, no, we were on a show at
the time, idiot, how do you rob a bank while
(10:13):
doing a show. But at the same time, we might
just at least say no, but then we could focus on,
you know, other things. And I think that you make
it makes sense because coming up in twenty twenty six,
so it will be an important election, and I think
that election, while it may be helpful for him to
say no, that's not true, it'll be even more important
(10:33):
for him to point out how he's been turning America
around and getting us back on track economically, from a
national security perspective, getting the crime under control, all the
different things that he's been working on to get things fixed,
and he's done it very rapidly. It's kind of crazy
how rapidly he's been making progress. I know there's still
(10:55):
lots more to do, so I'm not saying he's done yet,
but I'm saying it took Joe Biden four years to
do all this tremendous damage, and he's already fixing the
damage in many instances. And you know example, as we
went from you know, twenty one million people coming across
the border illegally and now it's the numbers close to zero.
(11:15):
Pretty impressive, Pretty impressive.
Speaker 1 (11:17):
Indeed, with that, George, let's do take a break and
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Speaker 1 (14:38):
And what's again we do? When to welcome me back
to the Conservative Commandos with George Landerth and your strewdly
Rick Drader coming to you from the Mike Pillow Studios
my Steward Studios of the a U n TV Network. So, George,
what's attracting your attention?
Speaker 3 (14:54):
These days.
Speaker 2 (14:55):
Well, I've done a little bit of work on what
I would call debunking the lefts lie, one of their
big lies, which is that fascism is part of the
being far right. And you know, for decades we've been
taught a simplistic political spectrum that communism is on the
far left and fascism is on the far right, and
that democracy is somewhere safely in the middle. And that's
(15:18):
a framework that's repeated in academia, which tells you that
the academics who say that are either stupid or dishonest.
And I'll explain why. And also, of course it's echoed
by the media, and it's even baked into textbooks sometimes.
But the narrative is not only historically inaccurate, either argue,
it's dangerously misleading, because fascism and communism are not opposites.
(15:41):
They are rivals within the same ideological family, branches of
the collectivist tree rooted in Marxist soil. When they differ,
they you know, they do differ, maybe in rhetoric and style.
They both lead to the same destination. So tellit hearing control,
the abolition of individual and the glorification of the all
(16:02):
powerful state. You know, to call fascism far right is
to misunderstand both history and political philosophy. And so I've
done a lot of research on this since I've actually
I'm in the process of writing an article about this,
because I think it's time we say enough's enough. Because
fascism did not arise as a reactionary right wing movement.
(16:23):
It emerged from the left, explicitly from Marxism and socialist
intellectual circles like Benito Mussolini, the fascist from Italy, was
not only a card carrying socialist, but he was the
editor of Avanti, the official newspaper of the Italian Socialist Party.
He broke with orthodox Marxists not because he rejected socialism,
(16:45):
but because he believed class struggle was less effective than
nationalist unity in achieving socialist ends, and so e Communists,
for example, were about class struggle, right, you know, the
Bolshevik Revolution and so forth, and his attitude was that's
not really working that well. So his innovation was to
blend nationalism with socialism, but he did not abandon socialism. Likewise,
(17:11):
Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party, the Nazi party, we
call it Nazi. That wasn't the name of the party
that is, like NASA, NASA is not the name of
the organization, right, NASA stands for something, and what NAZI
stands for is National Socialist German Workers Party, and they
advanced a radicalized form of socialism. Their platform included government
(17:33):
control of industry, wealth re distribution, state run education, and
heavy censorship. And Hitler was openly hostile to free markets, individualism,
and traditional religion. Those are all things that the true
political rights support, you know, free markets, individualism, traditional religion.
He was against all of them. And then also behind
(17:53):
these movements was a fellow named Giovanni Gentile. He was
the so called philosopher of He was Italian, he was
a devout Marxist. He of course was a believer in
what Hagel and Marx had written, but he made some
adjustments to it to create a vision of a state
that its ultimate expression was designed to squash human will.
(18:16):
In his view, the individual had meaning only through the state,
and the view that entire that's the view that's entirely
to odds with limited government and to the American right.
So I think it's very important because let's be honest,
you and I believe in less government. We believe in
smaller government. We'd like to see budget cuts and things
like that. So if you take what we believe to
the extreme, what you get you don't get fascism, you
(18:40):
might get anarchy, because if you take it to the extreme,
you'd actually, I'm not saying that you agree with this,
so we don't do this, But if you take what
we believe to the extreme, you might start going, yeah,
we don't need to have a constitution or federal government,
we just need no government. That'd be much better. And
then you'd have anarchy. So the extreme right would be
(19:02):
people who don't believe in having a government that's focused
on the individual rights, promoting the idea that all men
are created equal and endowed by their Coarthian avil rights.
You think that no government at all would be better off.
And I've talked to a few people who seem to
sound like that sometimes, and they would be the extreme right.
But believing in big government that has enough power to
(19:25):
round up millions of people and killing them and taking
over the country and attacking all of the its neighbors
and the continent and so forth, that's not the extreme
right view, or.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
George, I think it's the extreme left view. You know,
they're even Hillary Clinton talks about we might have to
re educate those people. Remember that. You know. The other
thing that was thinking of, George is facts are sticky things.
The facts are sticky things. However, yeah, well maybe that's
what meant to say. Facts are stubborn things instead of
(19:58):
sticky things.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Maybe they're maybe they're both.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
But it seems like if you get a person or
a group of people shouting and yelling the same things simultaneously,
there are other people out there who aren't so informed
will start to believe those things.
Speaker 4 (20:18):
Georgia.
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Unfortunately, I think that there are forty percent of the
people out there who follow political things, who follow the news,
who follow trends, which leaves about sixty percent of the
people either they don't or they don't care, or they
just don't want to bother. But if they hear a
group from one side of the other screaming one way
(20:43):
or another, they'll start to think, well, that's the way
things are. Those are the facts, But they're not the facts.
I heard something not too long ago, and I really
don't remember in what context it was, but there were
about twenty people in a group and others twenty people.
(21:04):
Nineteen of them were all in cahoots and they would
say they would hold up something that was black and
they would say, this is white, this is white, this
is white. This is why. But when it got to
that twentieth person, because that person who heard this was
(21:25):
black or this was white and not black, that person said,
guess what. Guess what? They said.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah, they were influenced by the.
Speaker 4 (21:34):
Way they were influenced.
Speaker 1 (21:35):
And I think that is what it is what happens
in our society today, especially with social media, George, there
are a lot.
Speaker 2 (21:44):
Of stream media, which is part of the reason why
the conservative commandos in the A and TV network are
so important. Indeed, Americans need to be able to go
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opposed to just lies.
Speaker 1 (21:58):
So we are there, So aun is there served to commanders?
Speaker 3 (22:03):
Is there?
Speaker 4 (22:03):
Frontiers of freedom?
Speaker 3 (22:04):
Is there?
Speaker 1 (22:05):
However, there's this large group of people that don't want
to be involved, that would rather bury their head in
the sand. Some of them think there's nothing I can
do about it. But when they hear the lie pushed
and pushed and pushed, they don't know it's a lie,
and they think the lies is true. After all, that's
what everybody's saying. Same thing with what we're talking about
(22:30):
in the first segment the Epstein Files. I would bet
there's a large percentage of people out there they are
absolutely sure, absolutely sure that Donald Trump and Jeffrey Epstein
we're in kahoots with this thing. Why because that's what
the left is pushing. They push very hard, and they're
(22:50):
good at pushing lies. But that that group of people
just hears one side of things and takes it as
the gospel. Unfortunately, that group don't try to look outside
the box and say, Okay, this is what I'm hearing
from this side, what is the other side saying. I
(23:11):
think that's a problem. I really, I really do believe
that's a problem. And I think a lot of that
problem starts with our educational system. You know, when we
got teachers in government schools that are parroting the side
of the left and saying that everything on the right
(23:32):
is evil. When college when eighty percent of the college
professors out there are registered Democrats, when one hundred percent
of the editors from NPR are Democrats. That's what people hear,
that's what they believe, and they don't look for the
answers themselves. I don't know how you get by that.
(23:56):
I don't know how you get through that problem. People
aren't willing to hear both sides of the story. I mean,
if you listen to their side and then you listen
to our side, you'll say why Yeah, those guys, those
guys make sense. You know, the guy with the red
taie on, the guy with the red hat sunglasses. It
(24:16):
makes sense. Yeah if Donald Trump, say, was involved, so
you would have heard for the last four years Donald Trump,
Jeffrey epsin, but you didn't.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
All right, Yeah, anyway, Well, part of the reason why
so many academics, journalists, and cultural elites continue to parrot
the fascism is the far right trope, and that's it's
just a lie. But the reason why they parrot it,
like you said, they're the people that are holding up
the you know, a piece of paper that's black, telling
everyone that that black is white, or holding up a
green piece of paper and saying that's yellow because it
(24:48):
serves their political agenda. By redefining fascism as right wing,
the left creates a convenient boogeyman to demonize anybody who
supports the constitution, traditional values, or limited government. Labeling Conservatives
as fascist adjacent is easier than debating ideas. In other words,
we don't have to discuss policy. We don't have to
(25:10):
debate the constitution and the wisdom of it and how
our founders are really intelligent individuals. We just need to
label them fascists and then we win because everyone agrees
that the fascists were evil, because they obviously were, But
they were no different than the communists because if you
look at the reality of what they're like. Despite their rivalries,
(25:31):
fascism and communism are fraternal twins. They both rejectate the
of natural rights. They both demand total control by the
state economically, culturally, socially. They imprison or execute the centers.
They destroy civil society, suppress religion, and crushed individual liberty.
And the only real difference is is what they use
(25:52):
to rally support. One is class based and the other
is nationalism or race based, but everything else is exactly
the same. So I think it's time that people wake
up and smell the coffee.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Need indeed, dy and talk about waking up. George, It's
time for a break. And you are listening to and
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And welcome back.
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(30:21):
is on your radar screen?
Speaker 2 (30:24):
Well? I saw it interesting. It's kind of a, if
you will, somewhat related to our previous conversation. But there's
a poll that came out that said that essentially a
very strong plurality of the poll said that the Democratic
Party is too radical and that it's become unreasonable and
you know, leftist. And what I think is interesting about
(30:45):
that is, I think it's clearly true because if you
look at you know, the American Republic was founded on
during principles like natural writing.
Speaker 4 (30:51):
Yours let me just stop you for many Now.
Speaker 1 (30:54):
That's in spite and in spite of we were talking
about earlier, but that is in spite of most of
the major television networks CBC, NBCCPSCNMSNBC out there that keep pushing.
Speaker 4 (31:13):
The liberals side.
Speaker 1 (31:14):
That maybe that you know, this gives me a little
hope that people are a seeing past that garbage.
Speaker 2 (31:21):
It could well be, and it could just be that
the left getting so extreme that it's hard to miss,
meaning it was easier than this. But you know, our
nation was founded on very important principles, things like natural rights,
limited government, individual liberty, the rule of law. And for
over two centuries, these ideals have guided our nation through war, deppression,
civil unrest, and various changes in society. But today these
(31:44):
same principles are now under unprecedent attack, not from foreign adversaries,
but from within. And what's weird is the modern Democratic
Party once was a broad tent of classical liberals. By that,
I mean they believed in the constitution, they believe in
individual rights. That's what a classical liberal was. We're talking
about classical as in the time of Jefferson and Washington,
(32:06):
not modern liberals, I believe in big government. And they
also included moderates, meaning people who weren't necessarily quite classical liberals,
but they weren't crazy left wing kooks who hated the America.
But it's been hijacked by radicals pushing a deeply illiberal,
an increasingly Marxist agenda that poses a direct threat to
(32:27):
American freedom, prosperity, and constitutional governments. And I think that's
part of the reason why they're trying to claim that
the Right are fascists because they want to have an
offset to the very clear evidence that they are increasingly Marxist.
And I would argue this is not just rhetoric, it's
actually observable in policy, in culture, and ideology. If you
(32:48):
look at what's going on, you look at the things
that the Nazi and the Marxist regimes in the early
twentieth century did. Guess what the Democratic Party is now
working on. Those things centralized control, suppression of dissent, getting
rid of you know, freedom of religion doesn't matter anymore.
What we want to do is worship government in the
state and the destruction of traditional moral and social foundations.
(33:10):
And so this is I think very revealing that they
poll and I think that's good news because, like you said,
it helps us know that at some point the American
public is not going to be fooled by the media's
attempt to fool them. At some point. It's kind of
like if it's raining outside and the weather man's on
TV telling you it's a beautiful day out you ought
(33:32):
to go on a picnic, and it's pouring rain, and
you know, the the gutters, you know, overflowing with water
because of the heavy rain. My guess is the average
American go, hmmm. I think the weather man's wrong on
that one. Why because your personal observation has some power,
So I'm hoping that Americans can observe what's actually going on.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
I agree, George. It's kind of interesting that we had
that a very conversation during the first and second segments
of the show, but now after we're hearing this poll.
And again, polls are interesting things. It depends who ask
the questions and what questions that they ask. But when
(34:15):
you talk about the approval of the Democrat Party, what
is it like nineteen percent, which is extremely.
Speaker 4 (34:24):
Historic clothes.
Speaker 1 (34:26):
But the one problem that I have everything, George, if
you look at the generic polls, and again we're talking
polls here, all right, if you look at the generic
polls for Congress come next year's twenty twenty six midterm races,
Democrats hold a small margin.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Yeah. Well, the good news is historically when they've held
a small margin, they've often lost. For example, this time
in nineteen ninety four when the Republicans had the Republican
Revolution and retook the House after more than forty years
and won a historically large number of seats. This time,
you know, a year in advance, the Democrats actually had
(35:10):
a pretty strong advantage. And so I think what it
demonstrates is that we don't have to be too afraid
of the Democrats supposedly looking like they have a slight
advantage in the polls. You know, example, d if we
believe the Democratic or the polls out say, and during
the summer and early fall of twenty sixteen, who was
(35:31):
going to be the next president of the United States
Hillary Clinton? If you believe the polls in early twenty
twenty four who was going to win? It was gonna
be Joe Biden, and then later it was going to
be Kamala And all of a sudden, then the polls
catch up, and then they realize at the end that
now that's not true.
Speaker 1 (35:49):
Well, I've said for quite some time, I've always found
the polls interesting. But again, for me, it's just a
lot of entertainment. It's like the uh, the Major League
Baseball standings really don't mean a thing to the last
stay of the season.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
Yeah, yeah, Well that's right, because it's a snapshot, and
so the standings mean only what they mean for that
particular timeframe. It doesn't mean that that's who the who's
gonna win the World Series. And you're right, because it
ain't over till it's over, and so that's true for
the mid midterms as well. But I think if you look,
for example, some of the issues that demonstrate how extreme
the Democratic Party has become, they're interested in censorship and
(36:27):
media control. That's not something that you heard say someone
like John F. Kennedy promoting, but it is now the
way they do things. And authoritarian regimes always try to
control speech and suppress dissent. The Nazis tightly controlled radio,
newspapers and film, Marxists banded opposition media, and today Democrats
(36:48):
in Congress are openly pressuring tech companies or were during
the Biden administration because the White House was involved in
it when Biden was president, to censor dissenting voices and
laboring them, labeling them disinformation. And so it's kind of time.
You know, example Hunter's laptop, the COVID nineteen policies, big
(37:09):
tech censorship, all of that was designed to benefit the
left wing Democrats anyhow. And then you look at gun control,
one of the earliest acts the Nazi regime was to
strict gun control, and it didn't used to be the
Second Amend was a partisan issue. There was a time
when the Second Amendment was like the First Amendment, meaning
(37:29):
that Americans agreed that people should have the right of
free speech and freeom of religion. And then of late
it's become a highly partisan issue, and the Nazi regime
worked at disarming its political opponents and targeted groups. And
now that's what the Democrats are interested in doing. They
want to make sure that they put they put criminals
back out of the streets, making Americans at risk, and
(37:51):
it's just in law abiding the citizens get demonized and
stuff like that. It's just like, really, this is very interesting.
And then of course Nazis also the demployed brownshirts to
intimidate political enemies, and the Marxist revolutionaries justified violence, you know,
as necessary for liberation. And yet today what do we see.
We see leftist mobs harassing and threatening Supreme Court justices,
(38:17):
Antifa destroying property in major cities, setting cities on fire,
we see violent threats against conservative voices, we see assassination
attempts against Donald Trump, and Democratic prosecutors look the other
way and act like it's no big deal, it's mostly peaceful.
And then you even have abortion and the devaluation of life.
Nazi Journey promoted abortion, interesting enough, Nazi Germany because that
(38:40):
allowed them to get rid of undesirable groups, the ones
they didn't because it had eugenic goals. And marx estates
like China enforced brutal abortion policies to control population and
so forth. So and the Democrats now basically make it
like it's an important thing, and it's just very interesting.
The analogo gifts behavior between these evil regimes of the
(39:03):
twentieth century and now what our Democratic Party has become.
Because if I were making this conversation in nineteen sixty three,
when John F. Kennedy were president, people would have said,
what the heck is that idiot talking about? And that
would have been correct at that time. It might have
been correct even later in maybe the seventies, or it
(39:23):
could have been true maybe in the eighties, you know,
it could have been true in the in the nineteen nineties,
but absolutely, But time we get to the twenty you know,
the twenty first century not true anymore. Basically, they hate
the Constitution, they admit they hate it, and why because
it reduces their ability to have power.
Speaker 4 (39:43):
Georgie, it's them.
Speaker 1 (39:44):
He did a terrific jobs in lining all those things up.
There's one thing I think it could add to it. Mutilation,
mutilations and human of human beings. You know, that's something
that the Nazis said, that's something that liberals are for now.
Mutilating children, experimenting, experimenting, surgically, experimenting on children, trying to
(40:11):
take little boys and make them into little girls.
Speaker 3 (40:15):
You know.
Speaker 1 (40:15):
The thing of it is, if all this has come
so fast fifteen years ago, which could you imagine have
having this kind of conversation today. Mutilation of human beings,
experimentation on children.
Speaker 2 (40:32):
Yeah, yeah, this was not an issue then. I mean people,
even Democrats were like, what mutilating children? What you know?
But all of a sudden, now you're hateful if you
don't want to mutilate children.
Speaker 1 (40:43):
And that was part of the Nazi experiment. George, Yeah,
part of the experiments. All right, buddy, once again, we
do need to go to a break, and you are
listening to and watching New Conservative Commandos. I'm Maxuriator, my
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And welcome back.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with George Landeryth Andarmic Trader,
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stay tuned for those interviews in our next segments. And George,
I don't know what it is, but recently I have
come across three young men. I would say these young
men are very able bodied. They're in their twenties, they're
in their thirties, but there's something about them. They don't
(45:16):
want to seem to work. They don't want to seem
to work, and when you talk to them, they go, well,
I don't have to worry about healthcare, so I have
to get a job that has health care benefits. And
when they listen to the mantra coming from the left
that people that Americans are being cut from Medicare and
(45:40):
Medicaid once again, Georgia, this is a group of people
that are hearing the lies coming from the left are
buying into them. They're so detached from the idea of
working for a living that government is going to take
care of them. But now they're concerned about there, they're welfare,
(46:04):
their food samps, they're Medicaid is going to be taken
away from it. Again, these are able body young men
who don't want to work, who want to be provided,
but yet they're they're hearing what the media is saying
that twenty million Americans are going to be cut off
from medica from Medicaid. I'm wondering if you hit thoughts
about it, well.
Speaker 2 (46:25):
I do. I think you've hit the nail on the head.
An example would be some of the debate over the
Big Beautiful Bill was that it was going to you know,
wreck Medicaid and like you said, cutting twenty million people off.
Of course, the vast majority of those be people who
were entitled to it. They weren't even American citizens. And
then of course some of them were people that were,
you know, able bodied but refusing to work. And I
(46:48):
think it's important to recognize that this is kind of
crazy because they claim that they cut Medicaid spending and
they didn't. They actually increased it by twenty percent over
ten years. Now there was two percent a year, and
you know, they and then on top of that, they
voted to increase medicaid, you know, like they've voted to
protect Medicaid by for example, Medicaid was designed for the needy,
(47:12):
for people who perhaps were needy or people who were
just not in a position to forward healthcare.
Speaker 1 (47:19):
Well, you're an example of these three young men. They're
able body, and they they they are able body and
could go to work. They just don't want to go
to work, right because they know government is coming to
take care of them. They're on disability, they were unemployment.
You know, they they have no real incentive to go
to work. Oh, but but they want everyone else to
(47:41):
go to work to pay for their benefits.
Speaker 2 (47:44):
Right, yeah, And they want to increase your taxes so
that you can pay for more people to stay home,
because you know that's the I don't want to work.
I just want people to pay for my food, and
pay for my rent and pay for my health care.
It's like, wait a minute, you know, I understand that
if somebody, for example, let's assume you have a soldier
that's been fighting for our country overseas to defend us
(48:04):
from terrorism, and a bomb goes off near him, and
so he's in a wheelchair and the rest of his
life he can't really do much because maybe even his
brain has been damaged by shrapnel and things like that.
So he's alive, but he's not healthy and strong. I
have no problem with the taxpayers of the United States
taking care to make sure that he is not starving,
(48:28):
not freezing to death, and not being denied healthcare. But
if you're strong and capable, and you just kind of say,
you know what, I like watching TV all day. I
like sleeping in all.
Speaker 1 (48:40):
Day, playing video games all playing video games all day,
smoking a marijuana pipe all day. Law.
Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, And so I want other people to give me
rent money and to give me It's like, what, you know,
we're not responsible for you if you have the capacity.
And so I think that what they did was very
important because they actually protected Medicaid because what they said
was if you're able bodied but just choose not to work,
then you don't get to get money, because what does
(49:08):
that do Every person who's getting medicaid benefits who doesn't
need them but just wants them, then effectively is endangering
medicaid for those who actually need it. And so as
a result, this was a protection of medicaid, not a
destruction of medicaid, and I think that's very important. The
(49:28):
other course thing is they are trying to improve the economy,
which means that people will be able to get high
quality jobs, good paying jobs, and with good health quality
in high quality health care insurance, and so you know,
jobs are a good solution. I think it was Ronald
Reagan who said they're the best social program around. And
the Republicans were working to create an environment where our
(49:52):
economy could flourish again so that you wouldn't be it
could be that like under the Obama Obiden administration and
under COVID when we shut everything down, that there were
people who were able bodied who couldn't get jobs because
we basically just destroyed our economies in a stupid way.
But there the Republicans are trying to undo that. Who
(50:14):
did that? The leftist kooks, the Gavin Newsom's, the wretch
and Witnmers, the Kathy Halt Hudgels, and you know, et cetera,
et cetera, et cetera. It was not Donald Trump who
did that. It was the Democrats.
Speaker 1 (50:31):
And the truth of it is, George, nobody in this
country is going to be medical care everybody. You know,
if they show up at a hospital waiting room, everybody
is going to be attended to. And George, I saw
this years years before Obamacare. This was back in the
nineteen nineties. I took my mother to the hospital to
(50:53):
the mercy room she had she was having a heart problem,
and I'm in a waiting room. And again this was
in the nineteen nineties. I'm in the waiting room of
the emergency room there and this young girl comes in.
She was like sixteen years old. She was there with
her mother. The mother didn't speak any English, they didn't
(51:15):
have any money, they didn't have any insurance. And I'm thinking,
while they're there for the mother, well they weren't. They
were there for the daughter. And what was wrong with
the daughter? She had lauryngitis. So she shows up at
an emergency room at a hospital and she without any money,
without any health insurance, was treated. She wasn't turned away.
(51:39):
Then she wouldn't be turned away. Now, you know what
we're trying, or what Donald Trump I do believe, is
trying to do this incentivize people to come here or
coming here illegally for things like free food, free housing,
free cell phones, and oh yeah, free medical care, free
(52:02):
medical care.
Speaker 2 (52:03):
Yeah, we want to talk about the cuts. You're right
about benefits that may add up to roughly sixty or
seventy thousand dollars sounds like just outrageous wealth to you
in America, given what you know current costs of living are.
That doesn't necessarily mean you're wealthy. It probably means you're
struggling to be in the middle class perhaps. But the
point is from third world countries, that's like, oh my gosh.
(52:26):
You know, you see the commercials on TV. How if
you were only twelve cents a day you could feed
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stuff like that. So it's like, well, so, yeah, I
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Speaker 1 (52:52):
Yeah, And you were talking about the cuts, and you're
right there, not cuts, they're just decreases of an increase, right,
Instead of it coming up eight percent, it's only going
to go up. The spending is only going to go
up six percent.
Speaker 2 (53:06):
Where in the.
Speaker 1 (53:06):
Final years instead of going up four percent, only going
to go up two percent. Only in the world of
the democrats, is is something like that called a cut
to reduction in the increase.
Speaker 2 (53:21):
Yeah. Like, I go in and talk to my boss
and I say, you know, when I was a young man,
I need to get a pay increase and I'd like
to get a ten percent pay increase. And he says, well,
we can't afford a ten percent pay increase. We'll give
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(53:42):
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But before you go, talk a little bit about Frontiers Freedom.
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And the bottom line is that's where we come from
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But we've been around long enough where all that was
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now live in a world that's gone crazy, and so
you know, it's some people like like America First is dangerous,
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that means that John F. Kennedy was hateful, you know really.
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Well, today he would be ostracized from the Democratic Party,
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Speaker 1 (59:05):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders Radio
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as they say, the best lay plans of mice and
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had a guest lined up for this segment.
Speaker 4 (59:27):
That guest was.
Speaker 1 (59:28):
Not able to make it, but we we called in
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please make that introduction.
Speaker 2 (59:38):
Absolutely. I always enjoy introducing our guests because of the
very best guest on TV and radio. And we've got
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He's also the received the Presidential Unit Citation and he
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also has a new book out, The Scent, The Highest
Form of Patriotism. So welcome back Rich to the Conservative Commandos.
We're glad to have you.
Speaker 3 (01:00:51):
Well, it's my pleasure and thank you so much for
having me on.
Speaker 2 (01:00:54):
I wanted to ask you because, of course, the passing
the Pope is kind of an event that the whole
world his attention to, and because there are Catholics everywhere,
and so I guess the question would be, is what
is that it's come out of. I don't want to
be disrespectful of the Pope, but at the same time,
Pope Francis had a lot of things that he kind
of did that struck me as kind of like, say, what,
(01:01:18):
you know, maybe it was because he came from a
Marxist country or something like that that caused him to
be a little bit I thought odd at times. For example,
when I heard Pope John Paul speak, I always thought,
this man makes a lot of sense, And even though
I'm not personally a Catholic, I always respected him a
great deal and felt like he was a pretty powerful
spokesman for decent principles and you know, so forth, I
(01:01:42):
have to be honest, I didn't always feel that way
about Pope Francis. I sometimes thought, wow, thikes. So I
just wanted to ask you to help us understand what's
going on there, and what do you think the likely
outcome might be. You know, is there going to be
a swing back, as it were, to maybe a little
bit more kind of you know, Pope John Polish, or
do you think the next Pope is going to be
a lot like Ope Francis.
Speaker 3 (01:02:04):
Well, first of all, I am a Catholic, so I'm
highly interested in what happens. I think what really struck
me was one of the first interviews Francis had was
when someone asked him about homosexual and his answer was,
(01:02:25):
who am I to judge? Well, right, then, it struck
me as a Catholic, as a statement that was harmful
to me as a Catholic. It struck it at the
heart of my religion. And if you remember Sodom and Gomorrah,
(01:02:48):
God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because it was what we
see now in a lot of blue states across America,
the defending of homosexuality, sadomy, including pederacity in the Catholic Church.
(01:03:11):
They are pederasts in the Catholic Church. They actually had
parties in the Vatican where they would invite young boys
and the priests and cardinals would have sex with them.
And this is not what I signed up for as
a Catholic. And I'll tell you why my father I
(01:03:34):
actually wouldn't be here if it wasn't for December seventh,
nineteen forty one. My father was actually in a seminary
to become a Catholic priest, and he decided after the
Japanese attack Pearl Harbor to leave the seminary and served
in the Army Air Corps throughout World War Two. But
he taught me, and of course my mother was Catholic.
(01:03:57):
We're both Polish. From Poland taught me that what it
means to be a Catholic. And and John and I'll
and I would agree with you absolutely, George, Saint John
Paul the Second was a true Catholic. He believed in family,
he believed in the Bible, He spoke the Bible, he
(01:04:20):
followed the Bible. Francis was totally the opposite. It's sort
of like, I don't want to make this political, but
it's sort of like Biden and Trump. I mean, they're
they're total opposites. Uh Neil. Trump believes in uh uh,
there's only two sexes, male and female. Biden was very
(01:04:44):
much in the in the in the corner of Paul Francis. Okay, So,
and what really bothers me about this is that at
they at the as the cardinals gather and they vote,
there are really two names that stand out as being
more like Pope John or actually Saint John Paul the Second.
(01:05:08):
And those two are interestingly, one is from Africa and
and uh not from Argentina, thank God, like like like
Francis was. But one of them is from Africa and
the other is from the United States. Of America. And
I think what's really important is that I hope these
(01:05:32):
two um men, these two cardinals are seriously considered for
the position of the pope ship, and that is Cardinal
Robert Sarah from Guinea and interestingly, Cardinal Raymond Burke from
(01:05:53):
the United States. Now I'm in the corner of I'm
not I know Cardinals Sarah was is is the total
opposite of Francis. I also know Cardinal Burke is the
total opposite of Francis. What I would love to see
is Cardinal Burke becomes a pope and that would be
(01:06:14):
the first time an American ever served as pope. So
I'm hoping and praying at this point and and that
that that happened. So they're both they're both great men,
They're both great. Their background, they were anti Francis. They
(01:06:36):
came out being anti Francis uh and everything he did.
So that's where I stand.
Speaker 15 (01:06:44):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
He was very This is this is a very pivotal
time because Francis was all for immigration, legal or not.
And that's been the downfall not only of Europe, it's
literally Christendom. It's literally been the downfall of Christendom. There
(01:07:05):
have been so many outsiders who are not Western civilized
come into Europe, all the nations of Europe that we
do not have a Christian Judeo Christian philosophy anymore in Europe.
(01:07:26):
It's more Islamic than it is and and Pop Francis
was behind all that. He was embracing Islam as if
as Christians were being murdered globally, murdered globally, not just
in Africa but in the Middle East by Islamics, Islamists
(01:07:50):
or followers of Mohammed, he would not stand up for
the Christian for the Catholics. He did not stand up
for the Catholics. And unfortunately there was just reagonally a
athletic church in France that was turned into a mont
It's silly, but anyway, that's just my my philosophy.
Speaker 2 (01:08:08):
Well, that makes a lot of sense. I wanted to
ask you about the you know, I think Pope Francis
often sounded kind of Marxist, and I'm wondering, is that
because he came from a country that essentially had Marxist politics,
and so that's what he was familiar with and understood
(01:08:29):
and and so forth. Because I I'm thinking that up
to that point Pope's had been against totalitarianism and Marxism
because well, an example would be, uh, well, he was
at the time, of course, Pope John Paul now Saint
John Paul. But he worked with Ronald Reagan to help
(01:08:50):
to essentially defeat the communism that was destroying you know,
Eastern Europe, and and he was influential in that way.
And I'm thinking to myself, that's not something that you know,
Pope Francis would have done. He seemed to be kind
of friendly to the idea of totalitarianism and you know,
(01:09:10):
communism and stuff, and so I don't know what what
made him like that. Was it just kind of where
he's from or what.
Speaker 3 (01:09:18):
Well, there was a movement decade decades before, you know
when when when when Francis was a priest, there was
a movement by the KGB too put into the priesthood
(01:09:40):
like minded individuals and they did. Now I'm not saying
Francis was one of them, but he acted like one
of them. Now, Argentina, at the time he was there
was definitely communist. That has changed now with the new
UH President of argent He's he's he's hardcore, like he
(01:10:02):
comes he comes to mere Lago more than he says
in his in his place in Argentina. But he is
loved by the people. Uh so is the president of
El Salvador.
Speaker 2 (01:10:14):
Who problems that Argentina was experiencing.
Speaker 3 (01:10:18):
Yes, I mean, but so, all I'm saying is that
definitely pro Pope Francis sided with the Marxist Leninist philosophy,
which is totally anti Catholic. It is not what Jesus wanted.
It's not what the God of Abraham wanted. Uh, it's
(01:10:41):
what the Jews and Jesus, the greatest rabbi ever fought against.
They fought against the Roman Empire. So and that was
a totalitarian system. And literally that's what the Bible is
based on. It's based on the freedom that the Rabbi
(01:11:05):
Jesus of Nazareth, for only three years preached to every when, everyone,
everywhere he went, until he was crucified, buried, and rose
from the dead. So it's it's a special time for
me that this is happening. Not too far. He actually
died right after he met with Vice President jd. Vance,
(01:11:30):
which was on Easter Sunday. He died on Easter Monday,
So maybe God was sending a message. I'm hoping God
was sending a message to those that are meeting in
Rome right now and deciding on the next pope.
Speaker 2 (01:11:46):
Very interesting, lots of good place for us to take
a quick break. There's, of course, lots more to discuss,
so folks don't go away because the Conservative commandos with
Rick Trader and George Landreth and our special guest doctor
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Speaker 4 (01:15:59):
Doctor Rich, thank you, thank you for holding through that break.
We appreciate your time.
Speaker 1 (01:16:03):
You know, Rich, I also, being Catholic, was not crazy
about Pope Francis. But I got to say, my friend,
you made an outrageous statement in the in the beginning
of the interview with George when you talked about orgies
taking place in the Vatican, sex between priests and boys
(01:16:24):
and whatever. And where do you where did you get
that information?
Speaker 4 (01:16:29):
Where does that information come?
Speaker 3 (01:16:30):
Well, there there are there were a number of bishops
and Catholics that actually were working in the Vatican, and
I've written about it over the years. It's it's a
sad situation that were pederasts. What I mean by a pederass, No,
we all know what a pedophile is, okay, But what
a pedirash is is a male who seeks out the
(01:16:53):
sex with underage boys or a female who seeks to
have sex with an underage girl. So there were there
were situations where a number of cardinals and bishops that
were in the Vatican were discovered to do this. And
what did they do with them? Did they punish them?
(01:17:15):
Did they cast them out? Did they dethrone them? Did
they take away all of their honors, all of their benefits,
all of that? No, what did they do? They quietly
moved them into private quarters, bought them a house, and
continue to pay them under Francis. I hope the new
(01:17:35):
pope shuts that off.
Speaker 1 (01:17:37):
Well, Rich, you see, do you realize that eighty percent
of the cardinals and that eight of the cardinals were
appointed by Francis. Do you realize, well, so to expect
that we're going to get another pope that's going to
be more like John Saint John Paul the Second than Francis.
(01:17:59):
I think you know, it's ranch. It's a lot like
what happens in government, our government with the presidents and judges.
You know, you've got a president who's nominated you. In fact,
in the last sixteen years, twelve of those years have
been dominated by Democrats.
Speaker 4 (01:18:20):
Of course, Barack.
Speaker 1 (01:18:21):
Obama and Joe o'biden they were in office for twelve years,
and then Donald drump up to the last three months
had four years. So you had twelve years of Democrats
appointing judges. And I think you've got a very similar
situation in the Vatican now that you have. Pope Francis
has been in office for so long that a lot
(01:18:44):
of the older cardinals have either died off or retired,
and Francis nominated cardinals in his own image. So I
think it's going to be very tough to get a
conservative pope.
Speaker 3 (01:18:57):
Well, and I agree with you. I absolutely agree with you.
You're absolutely spot one. That's why I'm concerned that we
will see because of that situation, because he was the one.
It's just like now Trump won the electron and he
(01:19:20):
wanted because we needed to drain the swamp. I'm hoping
what I'm praying for is that those who were not,
even though they were nominated by Francis. Will see the
writing not on the wall but in the Holy Bible.
Speaker 1 (01:19:37):
Doctor Richt, I met my friend. I think that swishful
thinking on your part. In fact, you've got another article
when doctor rich swire dot com report German Cardinal Hope's
new pope will blacktrack on Islam and lgbt Q issues.
This is German Cardinal Gerhart Mueller stated a critical at
(01:20:00):
a critical point that although he was generally in favor
of dialogue, any form of relativism has to be avoided.
But he wants he wants the new pope to even
go further to the left than what Francis was. He
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wants to be more accepting of LBGTQ issues, he wants
to be more accepting of Islam. And I just don't
think that those views, doctor rich are comparatible with what
the Roman Catholic Church should be and used to be.
Speaker 3 (01:20:40):
I agree, and I think that while I'm going to
guess that President Trump made his views known to a
variety of people in the Vatican about how the Catholic
Church has fallen literally fallen from grace, literally fallen from grace.
(01:21:06):
The only thing we Catholics can do is to pray
that they are enlightened by the words in the Bible
and that they disavow this embracing of sodomy and embracing
of a religion that wants all Catholics dead, all non
(01:21:28):
believers dead. And they're not only wanting it, they're doing it.
Speaker 4 (01:21:35):
Well.
Speaker 1 (01:21:35):
Regie, God bless you for praying. And I agree with prayer.
But I think the other thing that right thinking Catholics
must do is if we get a pope who wants
to accept Islam, who wants to accept gay rights, they've
got to they've got to show their displeasure with their wallet.
(01:21:58):
They've got to cut off the Vatican. And I hate
to say this, cut off the church from funding it.
You got to make the church scream. And now I think,
doctor Rich, that's the only way that that influence might
be thought, you know, in prayer and cut off, cut
(01:22:18):
cut off funding to the church, cut off funding. And
I hate to say this, I really hate to say this,
and I really do believe Rich that if this comes
to pass, we're going to see the church diminish quite
a bit in size.
Speaker 4 (01:22:36):
I mean, the.
Speaker 1 (01:22:37):
Church's church attendance has been on a downward trend and
then with the Wuhan fluid went.
Speaker 4 (01:22:46):
Into a downward, downward spiral.
Speaker 1 (01:22:49):
And I don't think a lot of people have come
back to the church since the Wuhan Flew fraud.
Speaker 4 (01:22:55):
I think the church is in big trouble.
Speaker 1 (01:22:57):
I agree with you, Rich, but I think that this
maybe if you get a real liberal pope was to
embrace lisram Uh Islam wants to embrace LBGTQ issues. Once
to embrace illegal immigration, people are going to walk What
people are left in the church are going to walk away.
Speaker 3 (01:23:22):
Well, what I fear is if we do in Europe,
we're going to have a second another Holocaust, and that
Holocaust is not going to be from the Nazis. It's
going to be from the Islamis that are already in
the streets calling for the implementation of sharia law. We
(01:23:44):
just had a matter of fact, just before Pope. It's
interesting not only was it the Easter week they was
on the decline, but it was also we were celebrating Holocaust.
And you have to understand and not German. My father's cousin.
My father's cousin was a twenty two year old factory
(01:24:07):
worker in not the occupied Germany. He was he told
a joke about the Germans. He just told a joke
about the Germans. The next day that Gestapo came into
the factory, arrested him, took him to Auchwitz and executed him.
You have to understand that right now there's a holocaust
(01:24:31):
going on, not only of Jews globally, we're seeing it
on college campuses, we're seeing it around the world, but
also of Catholics and Christians. And if we get a
if we don't get a pope that is very much
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in the image of Saint John Paul, there will be
a Holocaust, I believe in Europe, not in the United States.
In Europe, there will be a second Holocaust, and it
will be led by those who there was a deeter.
Bonhoeffer said said something very important. Not to speak is
(01:25:13):
to speak, not to not to act is to act.
And what we're seeing in Europe is the cardinals and
the bishops and the priests are not speaking and they're
not acting. And they need to be on the forefront
of restoring Christianity in Europe. And I'm concerned that we
(01:25:36):
will see a massive, very dangerous, very deadly I mean
for the boroughs in London. Are the elected heads of
those boroughs are all Muslim. The capital of London is
a Muslim.
Speaker 1 (01:25:54):
New Jersey, you've got Patterson, New Jersey that's primarily a
Muslim city. Now, doctor you know, Doctor Richard, we're going
to need to wrap this up in a couple of
minutes because we do have a heartbreak. But I wanted
to bring up the fact that there are two areas
in the world that the Church is growing. We know,
we know it's diminishing in Europe, we know it's diminishing
(01:26:16):
in North America. Where it's increasing is in Africa and
in Hispanic America Mexico, Central and South America.
Speaker 4 (01:26:26):
And they're socialist areas, Doctor rich.
Speaker 1 (01:26:30):
You know, so if you look, if you look for
the the Church to want to appease their masses, I
don't think they're going to want to appease their masses
in Europe and in North America. They're going to want
to appease the masses where they're growing. And again that's
in Hispanic America and in Africa.
Speaker 4 (01:26:52):
I wanted to get your thoughts on that.
Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
Well, we're seeing, We're seeing, we are seeing both in
Europe and in Ireland and other cities, Marches and Germany
major marches of Christians industries wanting their countries back.
Speaker 4 (01:27:12):
Their countries are the religion.
Speaker 3 (01:27:14):
Well they may not be all religious, but they want
their country back. They want do not want these foreigners
in there who are destroying their countries, that are taking
their welfare, much like what happened in the last four
years of Buiden administration. And they're sick and tired of it.
I think they're waking up. We hope that they have
an influence on what happens in the Vatican, but we'll see.
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them on the show. Great to have him back. And George,
please make that introduction.
Speaker 2 (01:32:01):
Absolutely always a pleasure to introduce our guests, because we
have the very best guests on TV and radio, and
we've got Wayne Cruz here to prove it to you.
Wayne is the Fred L. Smith Fellow in Regulatory Studies
at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. In his work, he explores
the impact and the costs of government regulation and also works,
(01:32:25):
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Cato Institute, and also he was at the US Senate
and the Food and Drug Administration. So he has a
(01:33:08):
lot of experience and a lot of different angles to
understand what's going on. So Wayne, welcome back to the
Conservative Commandos. We're very glad to have you.
Speaker 15 (01:33:17):
I'm very happy to be here. Thank you so much
for thinking of me. I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
I wanted to ask you because most of us are
very familiar with the phrase the ten Commandments, but you
all have a study called ten thousand Commandments, and it's basically,
I think, picking up or pointing out the idea. And
I forget exactly which philosopher it was that said this,
but he pointed out that when a government has too
many commandments or laws and regulations, that it basically starts
(01:33:46):
screwing everything up. And it's not that it has to
be only ten, but by the time you get to
ten thousand, you are way, way, way overboard. So I
wanted to ask you to help us understand the study
that you've done, because when I've read it, I always
think of myself, Wow, this is very insightful, and they've
really done a good job of looking at this. So
wuayne educate us here.
Speaker 15 (01:34:06):
Well. I really appreciate that, George. The ten thousand Commandments
report is a compilation I started doing you mentioned working
at the Senate. I did it back in those days. Look,
we know what the however much we may be frustrated
by federal spending. For example, we know this year the
federal government is going to spend seven trillion dollars and
(01:34:27):
have a two trillion dollar deficit, even not in wartime
and not in crisis time like we were in COVID.
We can be frustrated by federal spending and the debt,
but George, at least we can look that up. The
same has never been true for the vast sweep of
the regulatory state. And I'm talking about environmental regulations, health
(01:34:48):
and safety regulations, labor, paperwork, energy, all of the financial
all of these vast interventions of the federal government that
are like a hidden tax. We know the individual in
income tax, the corporate income tax, but we don't see
the hidden tax of regulation, which comes in the form
of lost productivity, lost jobs, compliance costs, and so forth.
(01:35:11):
At this point in doing the ten thousand Commandments report,
and there are a lot more than ten thousand, by
the way, but the federal agencies already put out around
three thousand rules and regulations every single year, while Congress
puts out this past year one hundred and seventy five laws.
I call that the unconstitutionality index. You've got nineteen regulations
(01:35:32):
from unelected bureaucrats for every one law that comes out
of Congress. So they're pumping out regulations like chocolate bunnies,
and I'm trying to wrap my hands around that. So
three thousand.
Speaker 3 (01:35:44):
Rules a year.
Speaker 15 (01:35:45):
Last year, Joe Biden, his final calendar year, had one
hundred and five thousand pages in the Federal Register. That
is a knockout record cosmic levels of regulations being published
in the Federal Register. Donald in his first term had
gotten that count down to around sixty thousand. But we
always have these thousands of rules every year. I'm trying
(01:36:07):
to tabulate it with this report and kind of make
it like the historical tables of the US of the
federal government. You know, you can look up, you know,
historical records on the debt, the deficit, outlayser sipts and
all of that. Trying to do a little bit like
that for regulations and my placeholder for regulatory costs this year. Now,
I'm not a central planner. I don't think I know
(01:36:27):
what regulatory costs are because that's largely you know, experienced
by the one having to pay the compliance or by
the jobs lost or the productivity loss. We're not central planners.
We don't know exactly what those dollar values are Nonetheless,
I use a placeholder of two point one five five
trillion this year. Put that in perspective. I mentioned that
(01:36:47):
two trillion dollar debt deficit, regulations the same, the same magnitude.
Individual income taxes last year approximately two trillion, similar to
the regulatory costs. Corporate pre tax profits three point five trillion,
So regulatory costs are sixty percent of that. Corporate income
taxes around five hundred billions, So regulatory costs four times
(01:37:09):
what corporation's paying income taxes. So those are just some
of the ways I try to put a face on it,
if you will. I mean, you know, with three thousand
rules coming out every year, there, you know, they're a
lot more than ten thousand. And it's even worse than that,
because it's not just you know, the few dozen laws
from Congress and then the three thousand rules and regulations
(01:37:30):
from agencies, but especially in the environmental realm and financial regulations,
these agencies are putting out what I've taken to calling
regulatory dark matter. And Trump had addressed some of this
in his first term, which is great, and I hope
he does it again. But these are the guidance documents,
the policy statements, the notices, the bulletins, memoranda, circulars, administrative interpretations.
(01:37:53):
You know, I put together a word cloud on this stuff.
There's just so much of it, and so those are
things I'm trying to tabulate, you know, with with Trump
putting figures out or requiring agencies to do portals on
guidance documents, it was a big breakthrough. But when Biden
came in, he did what he called modernizing regulatory review,
which meant getting rid of it altogether, and he wiped
(01:38:15):
out the entire Trump reform agenda. Now Trump is back
and he's ramping it back up again, and maybe we
can talk about that a little bit too, but I'll
pause right there.
Speaker 2 (01:38:24):
Well, no, that's very helpful. I want to I think
I saw that the you know, just to put this in,
if you will, tangible understanding. Because we talk about trillions
of dollars. Most people's eyes plays over because they don't
know what that means. But as I understand it, that
translates to about sixteen thousand dollars per household family. So yeah,
(01:38:45):
and I'm thinking to myself, so let's say you make
seventy six thousand dollars a year. Of course you pay
taxes on that, you know, sales tax and other thing,
and they take maybe a quarter of what you made,
but off the the very top, that means sixteen thousand.
So you're before you even have to pay all that
taxes and other things that get taken out of your paycheck,
you're going to pay sixteen thousand dollars in terms of
(01:39:08):
either lost opportunity or higher cost for goods and services
because of all the regulations that exist. And I'm thinking
to myself, if Trump promises to get rid of some
of those, that's a way to help us have you know,
it's kind of like lowering your taxes that helps too.
It's er I've always felt like the regulation was a
(01:39:29):
way for the formig government to tax us without being
blamed for taxing us, because when you know, if they
pass a tax bill, you know when you pay it,
you've got proof you paid it and you know how
much it was. The problem with regulatory costs are you
don't know, like you get your electric bill and maybe
your electric bill is twice as high as it used
(01:39:49):
to be because of a bunch of stupid electrical policies
that they put in place in regulations. But guess what
the bill A mail you in the mail does not say,
you know, well, half your bill here is because of regulations.
You just you think it's maybe all of the electric
company's ripping me off.
Speaker 15 (01:40:07):
Yeah, that's right. That's why it's very insidious. And that's
why I kind of call it a hidden tax. And
you really hit on that because it's varied in the
cost of things that we buy and the services that
we purchase. It that we purchase, you know, it's in
terms of higher prices due to lost jobs and due
to lower productivity. So it's very, very difficult to get at.
(01:40:27):
I think the problem is not you know, the question
ought not to be should we try to tabulate regulatory costs,
but whether you do it top down or bottom up?
And I think there's some advantages or disadvantages to doing both.
But we have to acknowledge, George, that we really have
to have Congress be accountable for this stuff, because you
said that, you know, they can get by with doing
(01:40:49):
a regulation rather than a tax, and it's true because
the two are substitutes for each other. And as it stands,
you know, the joke always goes, you know, you can
have a member of Congress you know, stand up in
front of the Greenies, the Sierra Clubs, in these other
entities and say I voted for Clean Air Act amendments,
and then walk across the street to the Chamber of
(01:41:09):
Commerce and say the EPA and the Energy Department are
out of control with these new regulations. And so it
lets them play both sides. One of the solutions to it,
since we know we're never going to perfectly solve the
problem of tabulating regulatory costs, but we still need to
drive I favor regulatory budgeting, sunsetting and all these sorts
of things. But we have to have Congress approve the
(01:41:33):
major rules that really wants to see and act it.
In other words, right now, if Congress wants to disapprove
a regulation from an agency, given the Congressional Review Act,
they can do that, but Congress has to get up
on its hind legs and stop the rule that's coming through.
The proper way to do it is and it restores
accountability to Congress, and the Article one restoration of power
(01:41:56):
to Congress and the authority to Congress is to have
Congress approve regulations to affirm the costly or expensive ones.
So that way, even if we don't you know if
that cost of regulation is bigger than everything in the
family budget except for housing. But if we don't know
exactly what it is, at least we need to make
Congress accountable for it, because they're the ones who we
(01:42:17):
vote for. We don't get to vote for the bureaucrats.
Speaker 2 (01:42:20):
Yeah, they make a good point. I find it kind
of Finney. A list of people get upset about Elon
Musk because he's unelected, but they don't seem to mind
the other ten thousand federal employees that aren't saving your
money but are spending your money, and they're unelected too,
and they're regulating your life and so forth. So it's
kind of an interesting, well hypocrisy as it were, Sure
(01:42:43):
is it?
Speaker 15 (01:42:44):
We could tell? At least in the case of Monsk,
we know.
Speaker 2 (01:42:46):
Who he is.
Speaker 15 (01:42:47):
In the Biden administration, nobody seems to know who what's
running things.
Speaker 2 (01:42:54):
That's a good point. That's true in terms of, you know,
as America was growing and becoming a very you know,
economic superpower, we had smaller government, and so basically the
market and innovation and competition helped push us from a
phase when we were just thirteen insignificant colonies that did
(01:43:17):
not have, you know, much money or much power to
the world's economic superpower. So I wanted to ask you,
is this part of the reason why maybe we've seen
the economy slow down and why we see ourselves kind
of in a situation where sure we still have a
big economy and we're still an important part of the
(01:43:37):
world economy, but we're no longer you know, like the
American dreams seemed to be dying, and yeah, I wanted
to ask you, is this part of the problem.
Speaker 15 (01:43:46):
Yeah, the you know, the early America was very less
a fair you might say. I mean you obviously from
the very beginning you had those like Alexander Hamilton who
wanted an American plan with tariffs, protective tariffs and income
tax and subsidies and all those sorts of things. But
now the federal government is very, very highly interventionist. I
mean at this point, well, look what happened during COVID
(01:44:09):
you had the Cares Act was enacted. That was trillions
of dollars. I remember Trump sitting there getting ready to
sign the Cares Act and he looks up at Mitch
McConnell and says, Mitch, this has got a Tea on it.
I've never signed anything this big. I guess it's too
late to turn back now, and everybody nervously laughs in
the room in the Oval office as he signs it.
But after that, we've had this huge fusion of spending
(01:44:32):
and regulation that I think gets at what you're talking
about and slows things down. Because after the Cares Act,
then you had the American Rescue Plan, you had the
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, you had the Bipartisan Chips and Science Act,
and you had the Inflation Law. And these sorts of
things are huge, huge spending bills that are already regulatory
(01:44:55):
and interventionists even before the administrators and regulators later picked
up their pins. So even though I've spent my whole
career fighting over delegation, the last few years especially, and
it's always been true though we've had this administrative state
for one hundred years, but the last few years have
really brought it into sharp reliefs that the federal government
(01:45:17):
and that Congress itself, it's not just that Congress over delegates,
but it totally disregards its own enumerated powers, and now
everything from local tap water in Flint, Michigan, to potential
asteroid mining and commercial spaceflight is a government business project
rather than free enterprise capitalism like we had back in
(01:45:38):
the nineteenth century, as you're talking about. So I think
you know, the government is not a wealth creating entity.
It's a force wielding entity, and it makes things. It
slows down productivity, and it undermines the emergence of the
things we need, like property rights, evolution, and airsheds and
watersheds and low earth orbit and how we allocate drone airspace.
(01:46:02):
We ought to just dump it into eighty year old
FAA air space, but we ought to develop new kinds
of property rights. And you know from your work that
matters a lot in terms of land use and resource
allocation and things like that. The more the federal government
is involved, like it is, the worse it makes it
for free enterprise capitalism to be able to gain a
foothold but also to create the wealth that it's famous for.
Speaker 2 (01:46:24):
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Speaker 1 (01:50:27):
Smith Fellow in Regulatory Studies at the Competitive Enterprise Institute. Hey, Wayne,
thank you for holding through that break. We really do
appreciate your time in. Before we get talking about government
regulations or maybe we can talk about how to get
rid of them, tell us a little bit about the CEI, the.
Speaker 4 (01:50:47):
Competitive Enterprise Institute. What you all do?
Speaker 3 (01:50:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 15 (01:50:51):
CI was founded in George Orwell's year nineteen eighty four.
Our founder is Fred L. Smith, and I bear the
title of the Fellowship in his name. CEI was started
because Fred recognized the need for the importance of free enterprise,
the need for business to support free enterprise as such.
And at that time there were a lot of groups
(01:51:13):
working on tax and budget issues, or welfare reform, or
international policy, foreign policy, not so much devoted exclusively to regulation,
and so Fred started CEI working on environmental policy. Antitrust
issues were a big, early, big early issue for CEI,
and now financial policy and the work I do antitrust
(01:51:36):
issues are still really important. A whole slate of work
that we do on environmental policy and energy policy. And
my interest has always been and still is the general
scope of regulation. How regulation overall, across all the sectors
affects the economy and affects the public and how we
might roll it back. So that's what we're doing, and
you can find CEI's work just very EASYCI dot or org.
Speaker 1 (01:52:00):
Hey wait, these regulations, there have got to be some
of them that are useful.
Speaker 15 (01:52:08):
MH.
Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
Is this correct?
Speaker 15 (01:52:10):
Oh yeah, I would put it this. I put it
this way, Rick. It's not that we never have the
choice of not being regulated. The question is whether whether free,
whether competitive discipline is what makes more sense, or whether
political discipline is what makes sense.
Speaker 3 (01:52:27):
I joke.
Speaker 15 (01:52:27):
Sometimes you know that all tainted meat was approved by
the USDA just just because you think of a value.
And the left loves to do this. They they love
to think up a value and then name a government
agency about it and then think they're the caretakers of
that value. In free enterprise, it doesn't mean you just
get to run around. I'm talking about rule of law.
(01:52:48):
Doesn't mean you just get to run around poisoning baby
food bottles or doing whatever you want to do running roughshot.
In free enterprise, you've got a lot of discipline that
goes away under regulation. To free enterprise, you have upstream
business suppliers, downstream business customers, consumers, Wall Street advertisers, the media,
(01:53:09):
all sorts of forces are arrayed against companies that misbehave,
and often what regulations do is wipe that out and
replace it with government standards that remove from the competitive marketplace.
Because remember, free enterprise isn't just making the product or
service and creating wealth there, but it's also creating wealth
in the form of the risk management devices and innovations
(01:53:32):
that emerge alongside the innovation. So we need that in
areas like AI and robotics and new forms of energy
and things like that, and regulation can hurt that. And
just a quick example of a horrible outcome if you
bought an EPA gas can lately, if you've went to
Walbarter Home depot and bought a gas can, You've got
to have three hands to operate these things. It's ridiculous,
(01:53:54):
and you spill gas everywhere. Imagine if you know just
something as simple as that up by government agency, what
they can do to the big things.
Speaker 1 (01:54:03):
Well, but then you wouldn't have all those YouTube videos
how to work around those guess casts. Hey, Wayne, this
is incredible. Two trillion dollars costs of over two trillion dollars,
the average cost of sixteen thousand for US household. Wayne
that's more than I get each year on Social Security.
Speaker 4 (01:54:23):
Can you give us.
Speaker 1 (01:54:24):
I'm serious about that, I am serious about that. Could
you give us an idea of specific ideas of regulations
and what they what specifically they would cost it an
individual or an individual household like the Trader Lodge residents.
Speaker 15 (01:54:43):
Yeah, some of the worst. You know, we talked earlier
about the indirect effects of regulation, and I think all
that matters a lot. But look at what just for example,
corporate average fuel economy standards potentially adding thousands of dollars
to the price of a car, or those goofy you know,
it's not just something like those goofy gas cans that
cost you more and they don't work. You'd be better
(01:55:05):
off with the milk jug. But the Department of Energy
has been aggressive with its forcing you to buy dishwashers
that don't clean. You have to hand wash the dishes
before you put them in washing machines vertical that don't
work very well and they get mildewed inside. And any
of those kinds of interventions can end up costing the public.
(01:55:25):
You end up paying more for the appliances and so forth,
and then not get just not getting a value, but
the government it's very, very reluctant to roll things back.
So those are you know, those are just some good
some examples. And you know, interventions in say anti trust
can can sidestep or create distortions and inefficiencies, inefficiencies in
(01:55:48):
the economy, regulation in the financial sector can make access
to credit more difficult, things like that. But all of
those costs, you know, there's it's hard to put key
dollar amounts on them, but it's but you know they're there.
And that's that's one of the things and why it's
so important for Congress to approve this stuff and not
just let agencies run around and do it.
Speaker 1 (01:56:07):
Willie Nelly, all right, Wait, in this report you are
quoted as saying the Trump administration and Congress can together
can lift regulatory burdens and.
Speaker 4 (01:56:18):
Achieve ambitious reforms.
Speaker 1 (01:56:21):
Talk with this about what the president can do, what
can Congress do?
Speaker 4 (01:56:26):
What can reforms? Do you recommend?
Speaker 15 (01:56:29):
Well, some quick ones. The last time we had reforms, gentlemen,
was a generation ago. Bill Clinton was president, and we
had New Gingrich in the House, and we had all
of the nation's governors and state and local Wait.
Speaker 1 (01:56:43):
Didn't we wait, Wayne didn't we have some reforms in
in Trump's first administration, didn't he Saynation, We're going to
go Nelly's saying for everyone can What happened to those?
Speaker 15 (01:56:57):
Yeah, there you go. I'm talking about legislative reforms that stick.
And so we had back then, we had the Congressional
Review Act, Small Business Reform Act, Unfunded Mandates Reform Act.
Those were legislative reforms that stuck. When Trump did his
first term, he did one in, two out, and guess what.
As soon as Biden came in, he issued a series
(01:57:19):
of orders under the rubric of modernizing Regulatory Review, which
meant getting rid of regulatory review, and so he wiped
out Yeah, that's right, and so he wiped out Trump's
one end, two out. Now Trump is doing one in,
ten out and a few and several, just a slate
of other reforms. Some of them involved DOGE to the
(01:57:39):
Department of Government Efficiency, but others don't because remember DOGE
goes away in a year. So there's got to be
things that cement this beyond. But working with Congress is important.
There's legislation to implement a permanent form of DOGE that
would do kind of what you might regard as regulatory
reduction Commissions. There's legislation to force Congress to vote to
a major rules. There's legislation to sunset rules and regulation
(01:58:04):
so to go away unless agencies actively approve them and
put them back out for public comment. And the things
I'd mentioned to you about regulatory dark matter, there's legislation
proposed to address some of that. In this environment, very
difficult for that kind of bipartisan legislation to get through,
but we you know, potentially we could get lucky because
when there's economic downturns, you know, that makes business come
(01:58:26):
to Washington and demand reforms, no matter who they're elected
official in their particular district or state is.
Speaker 1 (01:58:34):
Wr and we really do appreciate you joining us here
in the Conservative Commandos. You know, thank god for groups
like CEI to highlight these things to the public, because
I don't think the public totally understands all the regulations
that they're governed by. And thank god there are people
like you and the other good people at CEI that
are keeping track of this for us. And we've been
(01:58:57):
discussing this. This report ten thousand Commandments, the Report on
Federal Regulatory Burdens identifies problems or reforms. Wayne, Where can
our listeners and viewers see the entire report?
Speaker 15 (01:59:16):
Very simple, Just go to CEI dot org and you could.
You can search ten thousand commandments there as well as
fine to all of my other colleagues. Great work, all right.
Speaker 1 (01:59:28):
Wayne Cruise CI Competitive Enterprise Institute.
Speaker 4 (01:59:31):
Wayne.
Speaker 1 (01:59:31):
We want to greatly thank you for being with us today.
And it took a little bit to get together, but
we did and I appreciate you but your patience with us.
And again before you go, give out that website one
more time.
Speaker 15 (01:59:45):
Yes, CEI dot org.
Speaker 1 (01:59:48):
CEI dot org, Wayne Cruise.
Speaker 15 (01:59:51):
So much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:59:53):
Oh, our pleasure, our pleasure. Thank you so much for
joining us. Take care and God bless and you are
listening to and why Gene the Conservative Commanders with George Landrath,
I'mbri Trader.
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