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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome fellow de plorables,
Welcome once again to the Conservative Commandos radio show. A
Merchurador coming to you from the my Pila studios, the
Mystre studios of the AUN TV network and joining me
today as he does to the lead off the week,
is the CEO and president of Frontiers of Freedom, and

(00:30):
that is George Landers. And George, welcome back, Welcome back
to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (00:36):
It's great to be here. This is a wonderful place
to be a you and TV network and the Conservative
Commandos feels like a win win it.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
Sure sure does so. George Whitey got for today the
lead off the.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
Week, Well, I thought it was kind of interesting. This
is something that's going on in Virginia. The Democratic candidate
for Attorney General, Jay Jones. He's a former member of
the House of Delegates. We're seeing that it's something that's
a great deal more than a political scandal, it's a
moral crisis because the Attorney general nominee, Jay Jones, sent
a bunch of text messages about three years ago that

(01:10):
are well beyond disturbing in a private exchange with Republican
Delegate Carrie Kanyer. He fantasized about shooting then Speaker of
the House of Delegates, Todd Gilbert, and he wrote, quote
three people, two bullets, Gilbert, Hitler and Polpot. Gilbert gets
two bullets in the head. That's not a joke. That's
actually a violent fantasy targeting a sitting public official who

(01:32):
happens to be in the side of the aisle from you.
But it didn't stop there. He went on to say
that Gilbert and his wife were breeding little fascists, referring
to their two children, and then he told the person
in his text that he hoped that Gilbert's wife would
watch her children die and that she would die as well.
And I think to myself, this is not just him

(01:53):
being funny. This is him being vile and proving that
he has no business running for an office anywhere. Nobody
who votes for this man, anybody who donates to this man,
anybody who supports this man, puts this sign in your yard.
They're either advertising that they are a complete moron and
that they don't know Diddley squat, or that they are
also evil. Just stunning to me. But Democrats have refused

(02:16):
to call for him to drop out of the race.
Several people have called for him, but they are Republicans,
like jd. Vance has called for him to drop out
in others, but even the Democratic gubernatorial candidate, Abigail Spanberger,
who is not called for him to drop out, but
she does tell her voters or her supporters in a
speech she said, let rage fuel you. She said that

(02:37):
shortly after Charlie Kirk's assassination, and so it's interesting to
me somehow that means she's a serious candidate. No, what
that means is that she is a really bad person,
because what we're seeing is a pattern here. Violent rhetoric
on the left is excused, minimized, or brushed aside, even
when it targets children. And this isn't just an isolated incident.

(02:59):
It's the part of a broader cultural issue where rage
is celebrated on the left, where political opponents are demonized
so as to justify violence against them, and where violence
is increasingly normalized on the left. But of course people
show up in the capitol and take the photographs of themselves.
They're insurrectionists, so you know, they call for fights in
the streets, and the fantasies about assassination and actual assassination

(03:23):
attempts and violence against police officers, ice officers, etc. And
it's trying to figure out, why do we put up
with this stuff? Why is this okay? I'm thinking to myself,
how do you continue to vote for Democrats? How do
you pay attention to what's going on and say, yeah,
I'm going to keep voting for these guys. That means
these people would have been voting for Hitler and for
his supporters, the brown shirts, the violent people. And it

(03:46):
tells me something that again, like I said, either they're
incredibly uninformed stupid, or they themselves are also downright evil.

Speaker 1 (03:54):
George, and I heard one Democrat come out named defense
of this guy, Jones say those without sin should throw
the first should cast the first stone. Isn't it interesting?
Isn't it interesting that now we've got the Democrats coming
out and quoting from the Bible. Very interesting what you said.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
About they're the same people for example, that said it
was okay to get Charlie Kirk because he was a fascist. Right,
So again that's how you know these people are not
good people. The man who said that is not a
good man. He uses that scripture only to justify the
violence and the evil of his friends and allies. But
if they are somebody with which he does not agree,

(04:38):
then he's not at all interested in that.

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Same with that you made quoting the candidate for governor,
let the reach inside fuel you interesting after Charlie Kirk
was shot, after the president was shot, after another attempt
on the president's life, and.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
On Supreme Court justices too.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
Maybe the problem that the Republicans are making is they're
not letting that reage fuel them except to get motivated. Now,
we saw after George Floyd and Trevor and Martin and
all these blood in the streets, literally blood in the streets.
George certainly, certainly let reage fuel you. Certainly. Certainly it's

(05:30):
a little by law of the Democrats and the Democrat
Party whenever they don't get their way.

Speaker 2 (05:36):
Well, that's because they believe in moral relativism. So that's
why they can argue on the one hand that we
can't say things that sound mean or hateful because that
just proves we're fascists. But they can do it, and
then they can defend it, and they can even quote
from the Bible to defend it, and it's just like, okay,
so they're moral relativists, meaning that they will take and

(05:57):
distort truth and use it to justify evil. That's what
moral relativists do, and that's who the left is. Moral
relatism is a foundation of the left. They've built their
political party on moral relativism.

Speaker 1 (06:11):
George, I heard Victor David Hanson the other day talk
about places like the Washington Post reporting that Donald Trump
is taking his revenge on his political opponents. That's what
they're calling it. However, when the the Obiden administration went
after people like oh, Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro, they

(06:34):
treated it as straight news. They treated treated it as
straight news when they went after Sydney Pollet with straight news,
when he went after Rudy Giuliani with street news. But now,
but now Trump is taking revenge on his political enemies,
and that's how they're reported. I'm wondering if you have

(06:56):
any thoughts about that.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Well, I think that's interesting. Is You're right, it is
a game they're playing, but the reality is Trump's not
taking revenge. An example would be if I were a
Democrat and I robbed a bank. I have a feeling
that a Republican governor in Virginia or a Republican president
would be supportive of arresting me for robbing banks. That's

(07:18):
not political revenge as long as I'm actually guilty. Now,
if they just make up the claim and I didn't
rob a bank and there's not a bit of evidence
I did and I didn't actually, then that could be.
But that's what they did to Trump. They made up stuff.
They created new crimes that had never been used before
as a justification for going after him. And so that's

(07:39):
how you know that this is not serious. This goes
back to the idea of moral relativism, because they're very
happy to go after their political adversaries and play politics
with justice. An example would be if I were the
attorney general, I would not want to go after people
who were in the other party simply because they're the party.

(08:00):
I'd only go after people who committed crimes, and it
wouldn't matter what party they were in. If they were Republicans,
you'd still go after them for getting crimes. They're Democrats,
you would too, And yet the Democrats pretend that if
you do that, you're playing politics. In other words, only
Republicans can be held accountable for their crimes. Democrats get
a pass they get a freebie. We saw that, for

(08:21):
example with the man who tried to kill Supreme Court justices.
One of them was Kavanaugh. He was transgender, and so
he got a four year term, and even his own
defense had asked for and argued for an eight year term.
Of course, the prosecution wanted a thirty year term, but
somehow the judge, a Biden appointee, decided that, well, you know,

(08:44):
I mean, he's trying to kill a conservative judge. That's okay,
We'll just put him four years. I think myself, how
can we put up with this George?

Speaker 1 (08:53):
Maybe this judge was friends of this guy running Virginny.
You know, birds of a feather flock together, right, So
no harm, no fouling, you know, kill a conservative Peter
Donald Trump, kill a Charlie Kirk, that's okay, that's okay,
because we can justify. We can justify locking up grandmothers

(09:14):
who happened to be at the wrong place, the wrong
time on January sixth, twenty twenty one. We can put
them in jail, we can deny them bail, we can
deny them a speedy trial. Why because they probably didn't
vote for our side anyway. You think the conversations take
place in the Democrat Party, George.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
I guarantee they take place in the Democratic Party because
they see everything through political eyeballs. And so the enforcement
of law, as we saw during the Biden administration, was
all about playing politics with the rule of law. And
it wasn't just one guy. So it wasn't just Joe Biden.
It was state attorney generals, local prosecutors, you name it.

(09:57):
There's a whole host of people who basically violated the law,
violated the constitution, and demonstrated that not only should they
be removed from office and disbarred, they should actually go
to prison. Because we have laws that if you violate
the constitutional rights of people, that that can be treated
as a crime. That came out of the era of

(10:18):
the civil rights movement, so that if you were a sheriff,
for example, who used your power as sheriff to mistreat
blacks who showed up to vote at the polls, then
you could be put in prison for that. And it's
interesting because we now have prosecutors who regularly do the
exact same thing, playing politics with the law, and that's

(10:40):
what Democrats to do. Every single sheriff that was doing
that was a Democrat. And so it's just interesting now
that they it's no different. They still play the same game.
And I think it's time for Americans to say we've
had enough. And Americans ought to make a commitment because
they love their country, and they love the rule of law,
and they love the Constitution and the concept of freedom
and opportunity for all, they had to say, I will

(11:01):
never again vote for a Democrat ever. There is no
Democrat in Congress. There are few Democrats anywhere in this country.
They're reasonable and rational. It didn't used to be like that.
It used to be that we disagreed on policy questions
about maybe the best tax rate or how much money
to spend on this or that. But it used to
be that Americans of all political parties, agreed to the Constitution,

(11:23):
the rule of law, and the ideas that our founders
were remarkable individuals and we should try to hold what
they had blessed our nation with. And now that's not
true anymore. So it's time for the country to basically
say goodbye. We are not voting for the Democratic Party
ever again. They are going to become the Whig Party,

(11:43):
in other words, a non existent party.

Speaker 1 (11:46):
George, we got to go to break. On the other
side of the break, I'm going to talk with you
about the government shutdown. I have a couple of thoughts
on it. I'm sure you do too. I wanted to
hear yours, but you are listening to and watching the
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(17:23):
I'd have thought about the government shutdown all the Democrats
are talking about now it's oh, it's the Republican's fault.
The Republicans shot shut down the government. It's those Republicans. Yet, George,
let's do the math. Let's do the math. I think
there are fifty three or fifty four Republican senators everything,

(17:49):
every single one of them except for one who voted
to keep the government open. Now, let's talk about the Democrats.
What do they got? Like forty seven? They got forty
seven senators. Every single one of them save for three.
Every single one of them, safe for three, voted to
shut down the government. Now, George doing the math, it's

(18:13):
simple math. Who is shutting down the government?

Speaker 2 (18:16):
Well, it's definitely the Democrats are. And it's funny because
they are trying to pretend like, oh, well, the Republicans
are doing it because they control the White House and
the Congress and the Senate, so it's them. It's like, well, no,
we have rules in the Senate where you can have
a fifty three seat majority, but it doesn't mean you
get to do everything you want to do because you
have to get sixty votes. And so if they don't
get sixty votes, they're stopped. And why are they not

(18:37):
at sixty votes because only three Democrats are willing to
keep the government open. The other forty four of them
are voted to close the government down. And so it's
very interesting that they play this game. It's obviously they're
good at moral relativism, but they're not good at math, because,
like you said, it's clearly them. And I think the
other thing that's very weird about this is that this

(19:01):
government shut down is not just a budgetary impasse. It's
actually deliberate act of obstruction by Democrats aimed at derailing
the administration's momentum. And it's a calculated move to stall
key priorities things like border security and economic reform, and
to shift blame away from long standing health care policy

(19:23):
failures like the Affordable Care Act, the misnamed Affordable Care Act,
because it's obviously done a great deal of damage to
the cost of health care since it was passed. It's
kind of like the Inflation Reduction Act. It did nothing
to reduce inflation, and Affordable Care Act did nothing to
reduce the cost of healthcare, just put government in charge
of it, and that made it more expensive. So Democrats

(19:44):
are using the shut down to protect funding streams that
indirectly benefit undocumented immigrants, whether through sanctuary city grants or
social service programs. And it makes the average American understand
that what they're doing is prioritizing illegal entry over a
lawful citizenship. And then, like I said, with healthcare, this
is another flashpoint. The Affordable Care Act has dramatically driven

(20:07):
up the cost of health insurance and the cost of
health care. It's narrowed access and burden small businesses, and
so the shutdown is being used to distract attention from
those realities. They want the average American to think that
their healthcare costs are going up because of what they did.
And the answer is their healthcare costs have been going
up dramatically since the bill passed back in what was it, Yeah, yeah,

(20:35):
and so basically for thirteen years now it's been going up.
And then during the Biden years, they passed a bill
to provide heavy subsidies, including people who made up to
five hundred thousand dollars a year, to keep the cost
of insurance down because they drove it up. And now

(20:56):
the Republicans are the ones to blame. And I would
argue what this means is Republicans are saying, no, we're
not going to do that crazy government spending to keep
the cost lower to you, because all that does is
bankrupt our government and then the people are screwed by
that what it does to the economy and otherwise what
does for national security? And so the bottom line I
think is that what the Republicans want to do is

(21:19):
wake America up and say, hey, how would you like
to have free market reforms to make sure that you're
in charge because you were lied to. You were told
if you liked your health care plan, you could keep it.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
That was a lie. But George, we were told a
bunch of lies. We're told that, we were told this
was going to lower rates. We're going to tell we
were told we were going to get better care, we're
going to have greater access and all of that, George,
all of that is a lie.

Speaker 7 (21:44):
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Speaker 1 (21:44):
Another lie, George, a lie coming from Barack Obama when
he said people in this country illegally, the illegal aliens,
would not get Obamacare. Now we're seeing that they're getting it. Now,
we're seeing how right Joe Wilson was. Went at the

(22:05):
State of the Union message and Obama made that claim.
Joe Wilson said, you lie, And remember how Joe Wilson
was qualified and when he made that statement. Another thing
about Obamacare. You know, Obamacare wasn't free for most Americans.
It was mandated by that every American buy into it.

(22:28):
How come Americans have to pay for it, George, when
non Americans, these people that have broke our laws to
come into this country illegally, they're going to get a
free or at least that's what the Democrats want, they
are going to get a free the other thing, George,
and can ask this question of it, negotiate. All we

(22:49):
hear from the Democrats is negotiate with us. Negotiate with us. Well,
Number one, the American people have spoken that they wanted
Donald Trump, they wanted the Trump reforms. Number two, negotiation.
I think it's confused between Democrats and Republicans. When you
say negotiate with Republicans, that means you give a little,

(23:12):
I take a little, we come to a common ground.
But it seems like what negotiation means to the Democrats
is give us everything we want, give us our way,
and that's called a negotiation. We got a problem, George.
We've got a problem here that in the past, we've
had a bigger problem where Republicans think you can negotiate

(23:35):
with these people and compromise with these people, when all
compromise means is they're going to take a bite now,
but they're going to come back for more again and
again and again until they get every damn thing they want. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
Well, also, how do you compromise with people like the
Attorney General Canada in Virginia, Jay Jones, who fantasizes about
killing people and their children because apparently he disagrees with
them on public policy se questions. What's there to negotiate
about there? And I'm thinking to myself, these people are
so extreme on the left that it's time for America
to say we've had enough and please don't negotiate with

(24:10):
the brown shirts because that's who they are. That someone
can say you can't call them that because if you
call them Nazis, that you know you objected to calling
other people Nazis. And it's like, well, that's because when
the left calls the right Nazis, that is a call
of violence. We don't call people the violence. If someone's
a Nazi, I'm not wanting them to be killed. I
am wanting them to be put out of power. I

(24:32):
am wanting for the ballot box to recognize the danger
that they pose. And that's the difference, because I've never
texted you joked about how let's put bullets in the
heads of people we don't like in on the left,
because that's not what we think. We don't actually think
that killing people is a good idea because we're not
moral relativists. We believe, for example, the Ten Commandments that

(24:54):
shall not kill so we're not going to and all
of a sudden, now they act like, we need to
negotiate this, like you know, you need to negotiate with
people who you can negotiate with. An example would be
during World War Two, would things have gotten better for
the Jews if they negotiated with Hitler? No? No, exactly
what are you going to negotiate someone was trying to

(25:15):
ruin your life? What's the negotiation?

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Well, when they tried to negotiate with Hitler, when Neville
Chamberlain tried to negotiate with Hitler giving him a piece
of the Sedateton land, how did that work out? How
did that work out for Europe? How did that work
out from the world? No, it didn't. In fact, it
fueled his ambitions to take not just to sed Dayton Land,

(25:39):
but all of Europe and all of the world. That's
what is That's what he wanted. George, you can't negotiate
with evil. And this guy that's running for attorney general
in Virginia, that's what he is. He is pure evil.

Speaker 2 (25:54):
Right, you can negotiate, for example, with someone who has
good will might see things a little differer, but you
basically share a lot of the same objectives and goals,
and so you can negotiate and then you can compromise
and come up a solution that makes you both happy.
But like I said, if someone says I'd like to
kill you or kill your country and destroy your society,
what are you going to negotiate over the other thing? George?

Speaker 1 (26:17):
I know we're going to run a little along on
a segment. But since we're talking about budget negotiating, Boy,
has the song coming from the Democrats change from twenty
eighteen the last time there was a government shut down.
At that time, all you heard, all you heard from
that sideway was you can't shut down the government. You

(26:40):
can never shut down the government. There's no reason to
ever shut down the government. And guess what, Boy has
that song changed George when they controlled, when they controlled
the House, when they controlled the Senate? My god, certainly
a different tune.

Speaker 2 (26:55):
Yeah, Well, it gets back to that question of moral relativism,
because we would remember we'd said and realize, oh, that's
kind of dumb for us to continue down that same path.
But they can basically one day tell you and the
next day tell you that the exact opposite, and it
won't bother them It's like the governor candidate for Virginia
can talk about, you know, let your anger fuel you.

(27:17):
And then on the other hand, if a Republican said
something that sounded arguably a little bit potentially inflammatory, she
would condemn that and act like that was really wrong
and so just interesting. They play this game all the time.
And that's why if you vote for Democrats at this point,
you're a kook, or you're stupid, or you're evil, because
it's becoming very obvious what's going on with the Democrats.

(27:39):
It didn't used to be like this. I wouldn't have
said this. You know, I think voting for Jimmy Carter
was not real bright. But I don't think if you
voted for Jimmy Carter you were evil. It just meant
that you weren't paying attention to policy questions and what
he'd done to America in the four years you've been
in office. But today that's not the case anymore. It's
really like you said, it's gotten crazy, George.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Let's get a little break in right here. On the
other side of the break we are going to play
a couple of the best of interviews here in the
Conservative Commanders, one being with George Perry. He's a contributor
for The American Spectator, the Federalists, and the Philadelphia Inquirer,
and also Roger Aronoff, the executive director and editor of

(28:20):
the Citizens Commission on National Security. Here on the Conservative
Commandos with George Lander, then yours Julie Rick Trader. We'll
be back with those interviews right after this break.

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Speaker 2 (31:51):
Absolutely. I'm always excited to introduce our guests because we
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(32:13):
for Organized Crime and Racketeering Section in the US Department
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legal issues because he's knowledgeable on that. So thank you

(32:58):
George for joining us in welcome him back to the
Conservative Commandos. Well, nice to be with you. I want
to ask you about what we've seen going on of
late with liberal judges deciding that maybe they should be
president of the United States, and so they decide to
tell the president how we should do it, And I
guess I want to just draw a quick conclusion. It's

(33:18):
obvious that if the president of the United States were
to do something that was clearly unconstitutional, meaning like let's
say a president said I want to make it illegal
for you to go to a particular church, or I
want to force you to go to a particular church,
I'd be like, well, that actually violates the First Amendment.
That's a problem. But when he's just exercising executive authority,

(33:43):
you might not like the authority that he's exercising and
think to yourself, well, I wish you were doing that differently.
But that doesn't mean it's doing it unconstitutionally, because the
Constitution does give him executive authority and executive control. And
if you don't like how he's doing it, then guess
what you have the option of doing is not re
electing him in the future. But yet, what we now

(34:05):
have is a bunch of judges who seem to think
that because they're a judge, they can basically also be
the president. And I'm thinking to myself, this is nuts.
Can you imagine, say, if we go back to World
War Two, a federal judge telling FDR and the General Eisenhower,

(34:27):
I'm sorry, but you can't do D Day too risky. Well,
too many people will die on the beach that day.
It's not allowed. I'm going to tell you, no, you
can't do it. It's like, really, so now you're the
commander in chief just because you wear a black robe,
and so I wanted to ask you to help us
kind of swort through.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
All these issues.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
And you could certainly correct me if I've been wrong
on my description of things.

Speaker 7 (34:51):
Well, no, I mean, we have federal judges who obviously
believe that they know better than the president on what
the president should be doing. You have a couple of
issues here. One is separation of powers, that is, separation
of the executive from the judicial. And if you look
at the constitution, Article two of the Constitution does not

(35:16):
say that they're setting up an executive branch. It says
that all executive authority shall be placed in a president.
So the president is in effect the whole executive branch.
All of these agencies like USAID and the Department of

(35:36):
Education and all of that are all appendages to the
executive branch. But the person with all the authority over
the executive branch is the president, so that if the
president says that he wants to curtail spending by USAID,

(35:56):
he has the authority to do it, just as an example.
So here you have judges who have come along and
understand these cases. These nationwide injunctions, so called, are a
relatively recent phenomenon. If you go back into history, during

(36:18):
the George W. Bush administration, there were six nationwide injunctions.
During the eight years of Barack Obama, there was something
like twelve nationwide injunctions. Under Biden, there were like six
nationwide injunctions. During the first Trump administration there were over

(36:40):
sixty nationwide injunctions. And here in the second Trump administration,
in the first sixty days, there have been fifteen nationwide
injunctions and a host of other litigation brought against the president.
And the theory behind.

Speaker 9 (36:59):
These is that.

Speaker 7 (37:03):
The courts, the judiciary, has the authority to restrain the
president in the exercise of his executive power. Well, the injunctions,
if you just look at the fifteen that have been
lodge or brought during the first sixty days of the
second Trump administration, they are all the result of litigation

(37:27):
where activist groups have sought out sympathetic judges and have
obtained what are known as temporary restraining orders against the
Trump administration. For example, there is one requiring that the
Defense Department rescind or hold in abyance the regulation in

(37:53):
place to require that there not be transgender distinctions or
persons in the military. I mean you had talked about,
you know, a judge deciding whether or not the D
Day Investigator invasion could go forward. Well, here we have
a federal judge who thinks that she has the authority

(38:13):
to make the military, you know, not in force its
non transgender organizational principle. Pete Hegseth, the the Defense chief
said in response, he he called the judge commander I

(38:34):
forget her last name. Commander so and so can now
come down to Fort Benning and show us how to
you know, how to do high value target operations and
then go over to you know, Fort Bragg and show
us something else. I mean, this woman thinks that that,

(38:56):
you know, she's basically able to control what goes on
in the department. So there's an overstepping of bounds. It's
all the result of activist judges who are sympathetic to
the political point of who have brought these claims and
they're trying to in effect, prevent President Trump from delivering

(39:20):
on his promises to the American people. So you have
an unelected judiciary answerable to no on who are acting
count to counter the actions of the president who won
a landslide election both in the electoral College and in
the popular vote. And so you have a thwarting of

(39:40):
the will of the American people is expressed through their
elected representatives and the president who was elected, and the
thwarting is being done by unelected federal judges.

Speaker 2 (39:53):
Yeah, and it's essentially them trying to get into politics,
and that's not their job. The reason why they have
a lifetime appointment is because they have very limited powers.
They can adjudicate disputes. What they can't do is play politics.
If they want to play politics, they should resign their
seat on the bench and run for Congress. And yet

(40:17):
they seem to think that they can do this. As
an example would be if Congress would increase taxes on
all Americans. I would oppose that policy. I think it
would be bad policy. But I wouldn't support a judge
issuing a restraining order simply because he disagrees with tax increases,
and I think it reminds me one time. I think
it was Justice Scalia said that being a conservative judge
means you will sometimes write opinions that you disagree with.

(40:39):
And what he meant by that wasn't that he'd He
meant that, for example, if Congress would increase taxes, he
might not agree politically with the idea of increasing taxes,
but if someone challenged the constitutionality of increasing taxes, he
would be like, you know what, Congress has the power
to impose taxes, and it's not the place of the

(40:59):
court to say, can guess them on that one, And
so I'm going to write an opinion in which, if
I remember of Congress, I would have voted differently than this.
But I'm looking at the constitution and they have the
right to do that, and the public can deal with
them through future elections. In other words, basically, he would
uphold the constitutionality something he disagreed with because he's a

(41:19):
conservative judge, not a liberal judge who wants to use
his power on the bench to do politics.

Speaker 7 (41:24):
Is that a fair assessment, Yeah, I know that that's
a fair assessment. I mean, we have a judge who
in the last couple of days, there was an MS
thirteen gang member who was picked up by ICE and
he's from El Salvador and he was deported back to

(41:46):
OL Salvador. And he had been adjudicated is by the
executive branch courts, that is the you know, the the
ICE courts that he was a member of MS thirteen
and should be deported, but because of a purported threat

(42:07):
against his life in L. Salvador, he shouldn't be sent
to L.

Speaker 9 (42:10):
Salvador.

Speaker 7 (42:12):
The administrative court said, well, he can be deported, but
he shouldn't be deported to L. Salvador because there's a
threat against his life. Well, there is an administrative error
made in this individual, who was thoroughly deportable, was deported,
but he was sent to L.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Salvador.

Speaker 7 (42:27):
And so there's you know, the usual group of activists
filed in action to have him returned to the United States,
and they found a federal judge who entered in order
requiring this guy to be returned to the United States
from L. Salvador by you some time tonight. Well, the
Supreme Court just ruled that you can forget the whole thing.

(42:49):
That's not going to happen Number one, we know the
government no longer has jurisdiction over this individual. He's in
the prison in l Salvador. And number two, the courts
don't have that kind of power. And you know the
interesting thing, George, is if you look at so many
of these so called nationwide injunctions, they are all couched

(43:11):
as temporary restraining orders. And the reason they do that
is because temporary restraining orders are non appealable. They're very
as the name would imply, they're temporary, and they're entered
in the very first instance only if the judge believes
that the party seeking the temporary restraining order will win
on the merits. So these activist judges are entering temporary

(43:34):
restraining orders and then letting the matter sit there before
the case progresses further, because it's a means, supposedly of
stopping the administration from going forward with its policies. But
there is nothing that they can do. They can't really
seek an appeal. Well, today the Supreme Court found that

(43:54):
in the case of this one judge who had entered
a temporary restraining order saying that the government should not
halt payments through the Department of Education to contractors with
the Department of Education. The Supreme Court said, look, the
guy styled it, this judge styled it as a temporary

(44:15):
restraining order. In fact, it's preilminary injunction, and it's we're
going to treat it as such, and therefore it is appealable.
And we're here to say that this guy doesn't have
this kind of authority.

Speaker 2 (44:27):
He can't do this.

Speaker 7 (44:30):
And in fact, if you want to get into a
dispute over how the government is spending its money and
whether or not it should be honoring these contracts, you
should go to the Court of Claims and not to
the U. S. District Court. So they basically stayed or
did away with the order of the district court judge.
And without getting too far into the weeds of this

(44:50):
sort of practice, these judges who are entering these temporary
restraining orders are, I believe, in for a rude awake
when these cases start getting into the US Supreme Court.
Today's decision by the Supreme Court against that Massachusetts judge,
I think is the handwriting on the wall as to

(45:11):
what's going to happen. But there's an even bigger issue too,
which is when a federal judge enters in order, and
that order is defied or not honored, what's the remedy. Well,
the remedy is to hold the party not complying with
the order in contempt. So what are they going to do?
Hold the president in contempt, hold members of his administration

(45:33):
in contempt? Well, how's that going to work? Because the
enforcement mechanism for any contempt order is you either imprison
the person who's not obeying the order, or you find
the person who's not obeying the order. Well, all of
the enforcement mechanisms are in the executive branch. So is
the president going to imprison himself because some federal judge

(45:55):
said to do that? Or is the president going to say, okay,
go ahead, you find me a million dollars, I'm going
to have my I'm going to have my administration forced
me to pay a million dollars. It's utter nonsense. And
I've read an article recently. It was published in the
American Spectator, and the title of the article is shooting
blanks from the bench, meaning that the courts really have

(46:18):
no enforcement power without the active cooperation of the executive branch.
And in this case where these judges are trying to
run the country from their courtrooms. They're going to learn
if push comes to shove, that is, if the Supreme
Court ever upholds what they're doing. I think you've got

(46:39):
in Donald Trump, You've got the very president who's going
to say, you know what, as Andrew Jackson is supposed
to have said, at one time, you've major ruling. Now
you try and enforce it, because we're not enforcing it
for you. So that's really what we're dealing with. And
I think that you're going to see the Supreme Court
trying to put a leash on these judges who are

(47:01):
entering these nationwide injunctions.

Speaker 2 (47:04):
Yeah, I think you're right about that, and I think
some of these judges, you could argue they've been violating
their oath of office because they're doing things that are inconstitutional.
But this is a great place for us to take
a quick break, and I'll let in the next segment
you and Rick perhaps look at that question. But bottom
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Speaker 1 (51:03):
And you are watching and listening to The Conservative Commander's
Radio Show with George Landrith and yours truly, Rick Trader,
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(51:23):
article in issue that George is quite quite knowledgeable about,
and that's shooting blanks from the bench. Say, George, thank
you for holding through that break, and we really do
appreciate your time. And you know, George, as you say,
there have been an onslaught of temporary injunctions on on

(51:44):
Donald Trump in his first administration in this second administration,
what really angers me, George, is it doesn't seem like
the Republicans were ready this time. They should have seen
this coming. They should have been ready. And the other
thing is what angers me is when we were when

(52:06):
we Republicans were out of power, we never used the
courts the way the Democrats use the courts. George, talkby
back from this ledge.

Speaker 7 (52:17):
Well, there was at least one nationwide injunction during the
Biden administration when Biden was supposedly canceling the student loan debt.
And I think there was one or two federal judges
that came forward and said you know, you just can't

(52:38):
do that.

Speaker 9 (52:41):
But the fact of the matter.

Speaker 7 (52:42):
Is there have not been the same kinds of actions.
I mean, as I said.

Speaker 1 (52:50):
Before, George, not interrupt, But it seems to me a
perfect action for Republicans that they could have taken was
a sub Joe Biden from not enforcing our border laws. Yeah,
and the Republican Republicans were absolutely silent on it. They
were just sitting around saying, well, this is why you
have to elect us. But I think they if we

(53:14):
see what's happening with these injunctions, at least they're temporarily
pausing the flights of these felons out of our country.
It frustrates me. Frustrates me to sit and watch Republicans
sit in their hands and do nothing. Again, it seems
to me stopping illegals coming across the border would have

(53:35):
been a perfect example of where Republicans could have taken action,
at least in the courts to stop Obama and to
force him to uphold our laws.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
Well, I mean, there were twelve nationwide injunctions during the
Obama years. There were six during the Biden years. But
the fact of the matter is, if we want to
be conc assistant in our thinking, the courts don't have
the jurisdiction to make the president President Trump do things

(54:12):
that he doesn't want to do in terms of national
security and running the government and immigration and so forth.
That's the position, and that's the correct position, and therefore,
when Biden wasn't doing his job, going to court really
isn't going to be the solution either. The courts don't

(54:33):
have anything to say about it. They can't make we
couldn't argue that they had the authority to make Biden
do things when we're now making the argument they don't
have the authority to make Trump do things.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I think that's.

Speaker 7 (54:45):
The short take that I have on that. But in
terms of being ready, I think Pam BONDI, you know,
they have appealed every one of these crazy court decisions,
and they're winding their way through the appellate courts and

(55:07):
the you know, the decision today by the Supreme Court
was really one of the first cases to make it
to the Supreme Court, and the Supreme Court pretty much
put the handwriting on the wall in terms of how
they're going to handle these things. And I think that
chances are are pretty good that ultimately all of these

(55:27):
cases are going to wind up being smacked down by
the Supreme Court. If they're not, then I really do
believe that Trump is more than prepared to call their
bluff and say, well, you entered the order, and good
luck trying to enforce it.

Speaker 1 (55:43):
Well, do you know what it all happened, George. The
moment he does that, the Democrats are going to clamor impeachment, impeachment, impeachment.

Speaker 7 (55:52):
Yeah, and that's good luck with that when you go
to Republican majority in the House. I mean, Rick, the
problem that that Conservatives get into all the time is
they keep thinking in terms of principle and in terms
of right and wrong. A lot of this is just politics,
and there is no right and wrong in politics. I mean,

(56:16):
it's whatever. You know, it's whatever you can get away with.
And I just you know, they can talk impeachment all
they want. That's ain't gonna slow Trump down. The Guy's
been impeached twice over nothing, and this time around. I
don't think they could get the votes together in the House.
Are representatives I know the Republicans in the House or
is John Kennedy Senator Kennedy from Louisiana referred to the

(56:40):
Republicans in the Senate as free range chickens. And you know,
I think the same description applies to the Republicans in
the House. You got a collection of people, Republican and Democrat,
who are these elected officials who have one organizing principle

(57:00):
and one central principle to their very lives and that
is what's best for me? And how is this going
to affect my career? So I don't see the Republicans
in the House of Representatives, especially since they have a majority.
I can't see them going ahead with an impeachment against Trump.

(57:21):
Trump's approval rating if you look at the numbers following
the tariffs where that everybody's going crazy over, his approval
rating today is fifty three percent. It went up by
four points from yesterday. Wow, and nobody, I mean, this
is unprecedented. These are unprecedented numbers for a president. Trump

(57:46):
is just overwhelmingly popular. He is personally responsible for a
lot of these people in the Congress having their jobs
in the first places. And the same goes in the Senate.
I think, you know they want to talk impeachment. Well,
I'm sure Hakeem Jeffries and AOC and all of that

(58:07):
crowd are ready to go forward with that, but that's
a non starter. And defying these illegal court orders by
these power mad, narcissist judges, I don't think that's going
to get him in trouble. I think if he told him, you,
you know, take your order and stick it in your ear,
which is a line for my article, that's not get

(58:31):
That's not going to get Trump impeached. It's going to
make history because a president will finally have come right
out and said what everybody knows the case to be,
that the courts don't have the power. I cited my
article the descending opinion from a nineteen sixty two case
Supreme Court case in which Justice Felix Frankfurter said, the court,

(58:54):
meaning the Supreme Court has neither the sword nor the purse.

Speaker 2 (58:58):
All it really.

Speaker 7 (58:59):
Has is moral sanction. So and I think that's true.
They can write their opinions and the only thing that
would have any effect at all is whether or not
the public at large agreed with the moral sanction, the
moral vision of the Supreme Court, and whether or not

(59:20):
that could hold sway. But they don't have the power
to say the judge to say to President Trump, you know,
you violated our order. Now you're in trouble. Pow because
it doesn't work that way, all.

Speaker 1 (59:31):
Right, George said, well, what about the judges, these these
liberal judges that are being hand picked to hear these cases.
What ramifications? I mean, we hear things like impeach. Well,
I don't know about impeaching these judges. It's not like
they're breaking a law per se. But what ramifications could

(59:52):
these judges be facing?

Speaker 7 (59:55):
Well, impeachment I don't see as a realistic.

Speaker 1 (01:00:00):
Either.

Speaker 7 (01:00:00):
Let's take sanction. I mean, it's too cumbersome and it
just you know, I think I think it's a pointless
discussion in terms of what happens to him. Well, they're
appointed for life, and I think the the only uh,
the only thing you can do is either have the

(01:00:22):
Supreme Court or the Congress make it clear that nationwide
injunctions are no longer permissible.

Speaker 1 (01:00:29):
Well, how about this idea, George's bring this guy back
from olsavatory and plan him on this judge's lawn. I mean,
this is what seemed to start to turn the tide
against the illegal immigration when when Governor Abbott started sending
planes of illegals to places like Cape cod and Chicago

(01:00:52):
in Los Angeles. That's the only thing that seemed to
get anybody's attention. Let's bring these people back and plan
them on the laws of these judges, George.

Speaker 7 (01:01:02):
Well, I think, Rick, I think the ultimate, the ultimate
answer to this is let these judges say whatever they want.
They're not going anywhere, and they're not Ultimately, they're not
going to prevail. The problem right now is with these
temporary restraining orders. They are gumming up the works, but
only on a temporary basis. We have to fix it

(01:01:25):
so that they can't issue nationwide injunctions. There's nothing in
the law that authorizes them to do this.

Speaker 1 (01:01:31):
By the way, can you see it a a Roberts
Court finally saying, I.

Speaker 7 (01:01:39):
Think I think from what I saw today in the opinion, Roberts,
by the way, sided with the liberals on the court
for a surprised but the conservatives, any Cony Barrett included,
stood firm. So you've got you've got a five to
four decision, and I think it's a solid five in

(01:02:01):
the future going to make short work of these temporary
restraining orders. But even if they don't, you also have
a movement underway in the Congress to modify the authority
of the or make it clear that there is no

(01:02:23):
jurisdiction among the federal judges to enter nationwide injunctions. I mean,
these nationwide injunctions come out of litigation between parties to
the suit, and the rest of the country has not
been representative and they're not a party to the suit.
And the Constitution says the courts are established to consider

(01:02:47):
cases and controversies, and by that term, the only people
who should be affected by what goes on in a
court are the people who have litigated the case before
that particular court. Well, the American people aren't represented. They're
just along for the ride. When you get these activist
judges who say, well, this seems like a good result

(01:03:09):
for these parties here, and I think it should apply
to the whole country. So bing, here's my nationwide injunction.
And it's been tolerated and it's gotten out a hand.
I mean before they didn't do this kind of stuff. Well,
they've been doing it recently, and it started with the
George W. Bush administration and it's continued on and it's

(01:03:29):
gotten to epidemic proportions. When you have Trump in the
first time, Trump was president, it was over sixty of
these things, and now you have over fifteen of them
in counting. So I think they have made some such
wide use of this that they have created a problem
for themselves because now there's going to be corrective action taken,

(01:03:51):
either by the Supreme Court or by the Congress.

Speaker 1 (01:03:56):
Very discouraging that John Roberts sided with the liberals. I mean,
that's very discouraging. George Parry. We want to thank you
for joining us today. George. It's been a while. Great
to have you back with us. But before you go,
please tell our audience how they could follow you and
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Speaker 7 (01:04:15):
Well, I have a blog. It's called Knowledge is Good
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All right, George Perry, again, thank you so much for
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Speaker 7 (01:04:39):
God bless Okay, thank you so much, And.

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And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
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Speaker 2 (01:08:07):
Absolutely always happy to do it because we always have
the very best guests. And we've got Roger Aroonoff here
to prove that he is the executive director and editor
of the Citizens Commission on National Security. National security is
a pretty important issue because we live in a dangerous world,
and so he obviously works on that, and for example,
he founded the Citizens Commission on Benghazi, and he has

(01:08:31):
produced and directed six documentaries, and he also has produced
a weekly series on PBS called think Tank with Ben Wattenberg.
So he deals with these important issues all the time,
and we're really glad to have him be a part
of this discussion today because heaven knows, there's a lot
of important things happening in the world. So Roger, welcome

(01:08:51):
back to the Conservative Commando is very glad to have you.

Speaker 14 (01:08:54):
Thank you so much, George, great to be with you,
and Rick, as always.

Speaker 2 (01:08:59):
I wanted to ask you about this question of it's
just kind of an odd thing because normally speaking, the
left is fairly loyal to their friends and allies, and
yet recently what we've seen is a real kind of
vicious attack on the sentiment Minority leader Chuck Schumer. And
what was weird is that he basically saved the Democratic

(01:09:22):
Party from looking like morons and the people in their
party who are truly stupid, like AOC, you know, truly
low IQ individuals have been acting like he's the big
problem in America today and somehow, oh my gosh, the
Democratic Party has got this problem with people like Chuck Schumer.
And I'm thinking to myself, I'm not a big fan

(01:09:42):
of Chuck Schumer, so I'm not trying to argue in
his behalf. But this decision was not designed necessarily to
promote Donald Trump's agenda. It was basically just to make
sure that he and the Democrats didn't get blamed for
shutting down the government, which would not have necessarily been
helpful to them. So I wanted to ask you to
help a kind of waved through all this.

Speaker 14 (01:10:02):
Yes, I'm happy to and thank you. And yeah, I
know you're referring to my new column up on our
website ccnationalsecurity dot org. I encourage everyone to go to
check it out. We have some great people there. But
to answer your question, yes, Schumer faced a dilemma and
the first day he came up and he said, no,

(01:10:26):
we're not gonna provide the eight votes necessary to reach
sixty in the Senate to pass this continuing resolution that
the House just passed. We are gonna let the government
shut down and it'll be on the Republicans for doing it,
for not negotiating with us. And then the next day
and after an apparent meeting where he was yelled at,

(01:10:48):
based on reports by New York Senator Kirsten Gillibrand, he
caved and he said, Okay, we're gonna go ahead, and
we don't want to shut the government down. And as
I point out, there are different theories. One is to
say that he thought that the Democrats would be blamed
for it. My response to that is Democrats are never

(01:11:11):
blamed for it CNN, New York Times. They will always
find a way to blame the Republicans and Trump. So
I think that was an unfounded reason, if that was
his real reason. But the problem is that Trump derangement
syndrome is so widespread and is so infected the media

(01:11:31):
and the Democratic Party that to even take a position
that appears to be giving Trump his way, letting him
have his way, is unacceptable. So not just the AOC
and Bernie Sanders and came out and condemned him for
doing this. But again, as I point out, they in

(01:11:53):
the House had a very easy vote because their vote
they could vote against it, and there was no chance
that their vote was going to make a difference. But
Schumer was faced with we either have to come up
with eight votes to help the Republicans get this through
and avoid shutting the government down, or you know, we're
going to be blamed, or you know, we need to

(01:12:16):
show that we can work with them in some way.
But he was just so hammered in the media and
all these calls now for him to step down as
the leader of the party. It just shows where they are.
They're so divided, and I point to a Paul that
shows how how low their approval ratings have fallen by

(01:12:37):
over thirty points, almost forty points, and from a year ago.
That's Democrats approving the Democratic Party. There's so much antipathy there,
and so they're looking at it as a situation that
do we want to move to the left, you know
with AOC and Bernie, do we want to show that

(01:12:59):
we're more moderate? In other words like Gavin Newsom, you know,
in his he started a podcast and in his first interview,
which was with Charlie Kirk, he said, yes, this issue
of men and women's sports is an issue of fairness
and we need to be more sensitive to that. But
the point is is by doing that again he got hammered,

(01:13:23):
and he obviously has presidential aspirations, so they're not sure
which way to turn and what to do, and Trump
is just playing this masterfully, I believe.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Yeah, I think you're right about that. It's kind of
a weird thing that I see, like you point out
that the Democratic Party's popularity has dropped dramatically, and I'm
trying to figure out is it one or two issues
or dozens of issues. I have a feeling, at least
my theory is it might be lots of issues. An
example would be I would argue border security and the
fact that the Democrats for four years defended and protected

(01:13:57):
and made sure that literally millions of people were pouring
across our border every quarter and maybe in some cases
every month, and Americans are ringing, wait a minute, this
is crazy. Look at the crime in my neighborhood, Look
at all the problems as have created, all those other things.
They're saying, this is stupid, and or maybe, like you said,

(01:14:17):
it's this whole concept of everything from not being sure
what a man is or a woman is or you
know that kind of just like, really, that's not that complicated,
that's not really you don't have to have a degree
in biology to be able to tell a woman from
a man, a man from a woman. But anyhow, but
other things as well, And so I just wanted to
ask you, do you think there's, if you will, a

(01:14:40):
wide variety of issues that the Democrats have just gone far,
far too left on and that Americans are starting to
go whoa, whoa, that's too much.

Speaker 14 (01:14:49):
And yes, and Trump in these first two months in
office to show them what done. In other words, they
after that bill that James Langford had had endorsed and pushed,
which would have allowed five thousand a day to keep
coming in. You know, when asked, Biden said, this is
all we can do without Congress joining in and coming

(01:15:12):
up with some kind of bipartisan solution. And yet Trump
comes in and within the first thirty days he shuts
the border down almost completely, with mainly by reversing the
executive orders that Biden had put in place when he
came in. So that's one. Then you have the issue
of men in women's sports, and you just see like

(01:15:33):
the main governor, she first said we'll see you in court,
and then they buckle. And you know, these issues they
seem such common sense issues that it's so obvious that
men shouldn't be competing in women's sports. So then it
becomes the definition of what do you mean men? You
mean trans women? And so these things that like the

(01:15:58):
border that is you. And then you know, you look
at what's happening and with Russia, Ukraine and in the
Middle East, and all of a sudden, after three years
of this war and never even reaching out to Russia
to try to maybe see is there some basis to
have a ceasefire and then a solution to this war.

(01:16:18):
So they've stepped into doing all these things that seem
quite obvious now. But yet their people are just so
they can't accept anything that Trump does as possibly being good,
a good thing, or for the right reason. So they're
stuck in that dilemma. That's the dilemma that I tried

(01:16:41):
to capture in this article.

Speaker 9 (01:16:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:16:44):
No, I think your articles are very good and I
would definitely recommend that our viewers and listeners look it
up because lots of really good points. And one of
the points I think rays that was very interesting to
me was there's polling out right now about who among
the various Democratic leaders are leading, if you will, as
an early leader in the polls to be the twenty

(01:17:05):
twenty eight presidential candidate. And it kind of surprised me
that Kamala Harris apparently is leading. And I'm thinking, to myself,
she just lost and she was a joke of a candidate.
I'm thinking to myself, I think I could have not
that it would have been constitutionally acceptable, because you can't
be an eighteen year old and run for president. But
I could have gone to a local high school and
found an eighteen year old and with a month or

(01:17:27):
two of training, gotten them to where they could have
performed better on the campaign trail and on debates and
looked more like a serious candidate than she did. And
that's how bad a candidate she was. And it wasn't
just she had a bad day here or there. She's
been in office for a long time and consistently been
a complete idiot and constantly saying stupid things and speaking

(01:17:49):
in word salads. And so I'm trying to figure out
what is going on that they're not looking for someone else.
I mean, is there bench that week that she's the
best person they've got, Because I think, to myself, wow,
that means that they're in deep trouble.

Speaker 14 (01:18:06):
Well they are, and they have again that that pull
that you're referring to shows her leading the pack with
thirty six percent in second place, Pete Buotage in second
place at ten percent, and below that AOC and a
number of others, you know, Elizabeth Warren. They throw in
Bernie I guess he's even still considered somebody. But the

(01:18:29):
point is is, yes, their benches that week, and I
think Gavin Newsom was the one who presumed to be
the candidate. But you know, with the situations going on
in California, I mean they're just not sure which way
to turn. Do they go further left? Do they try
to go more trumpion And he's not really right wing,

(01:18:53):
you know, I mean, his policies are they're not taken
from the standard conservative playbook, you know, things like tariffs
and free trade and on a number of issues. But
they hate him so much that they branded as you know,
right wing, fascist, nazi, you know, the way they try

(01:19:16):
to label everything that he does, so you have that
issue with him. So yeah, they are. And if they
just start from debates and primaries, I don't think Kamala
is going to last. I mean, she could never sit
down in a real interview where they really challenge her
views and ask her these kind of questions. She will

(01:19:40):
never show up as being someone well informed able to
deal with these issues. And then the contrast is Trump
will sit there for whether it's three hours with Joe
Rogan or these where he has all the press in
while he's signing executive orders, taking questions for an hour
and a half. And that's all of his people go

(01:20:01):
out there, Pam Bondi and Musk and all of them
can just take questions from the press because they have
nothing to hide, you know, which is kind of what
was going on before. They couldn't really reveal their true
positions to the media, so they stayed away from them.
And you know what, Biden was in office and kamalas

(01:20:23):
So that's such a become an obvious contrast between the
two parties today is the complete transparency of Trump, whether
you like him or not or the way he puts things.
He's out there and he'll take questions and it's not
just from Fox News or Real America's Voice. He'll take
him from anybody and everybody, and he does, and so

(01:20:46):
you get and you get to see his thinking in
real time, it's just right there for you. And so
that's the choice what we're faced with today. I mean,
he is he has shown such transparency, and I think
most people are happy with his issues and the way
he fights back against issues like men and women's sports,

(01:21:10):
and you know, the various other issues, the energy issue,
and how we're trying to you know, taxation and regulation
and all these things, and then of course digging into
with DOGE and all the fraud and you know, the
Stacy Abrams two billion dollars project for MGOS that you're finding.

(01:21:36):
Just today in their cabinet meeting, they went through a
whole list of these new contracts that they've found with
MGOS and others that are just obvious fraud and things
that are so ridiculous that we would ever give grants
for for millions of dollars and hundreds of thousands of
dollars to look into, you know, various issues to do

(01:21:59):
with trans and DEI and all that. So it's quite
an amazing time. And I just came back from seatpack
and it was quite a celebration of this whole change
in what our government has become.

Speaker 2 (01:22:16):
Indeed, that's a very good point and that's a great
place for us to take a quick break, So folks,
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(01:26:17):
Committee on Nationals or the Citizens Commission on National Security.
He also co founded the Citizens Committee on Benghazi. Hey, Roger,
thank you for holding through that break. We appreciate your
time and appreciate you being with us. Roger, I just
think that what we're seeing now in history is absolutely astonishing.

(01:26:43):
Everything that's transpired over the last four years. I mean,
here you've got You've got all the investigations, indictments, impeachments, trials, mugshots,
Donald Trump rallying to win every battleground state, increasing gains

(01:27:05):
in the Senate. And now what we're seeing during the
first two months of his administration, I've never seen. I've
never seen anything like it, have you, Roger.

Speaker 14 (01:27:18):
No, It's it's amazing because they have thrown everything at
him starting in his first administration, from the Russia Gate
oaks to all of the two impeachments. And then since
he's been out of office, since he announced again in
twenty twenty two he was running, then they started up

(01:27:40):
just unprecedented law fair against him in every one of
those cases. And I've linked to them because I've written
about him in the past. How each one was really
orchestrated by the White House? I'm talking about the John.

Speaker 1 (01:27:54):
To ask you about that for it. Was it orchestrated
by the White House Joe o'biden, or was it instigated
by his autopen crew. I'm Sarah's Roger. You know what
we're hearing now about the autopen And we've seen evidence
how the signatures on so many of these executive orders

(01:28:17):
coming from Joe o'biden match exactly to each other, exactly
to each other. Something was who knows if Joe Biden
knew those executive actions were a quote unquote signed by
him and put in law, or it was his autopen gang.
And who's to say his autopen gang wasn't responsible for

(01:28:41):
a lot of the things we're talking about.

Speaker 14 (01:28:43):
Well, I think very likely. So, I mean, I think
that's the whole point of Biden, is that they pretended
that this guy was reading national security briefings every day
and making big decisions. But every time you'd see him
up in front of an audience, he obviously couldn't put
together two sentences and he really didn't know what was

(01:29:05):
going on, And so you had a lot of examples
of that that he didn't even know what orders had
been signed. I mean, we've been hearing those sort of things.
But yeah, but then the point is, like Fanny Willis
the Rico case out of Georgia. I mean the guy
she Nathan Wade, who she had assigned to that case,

(01:29:29):
spent two full days in the White House before they
really came out with this whole Rico case.

Speaker 1 (01:29:34):
Do you think he spent two full days with Joe o'biden.
He spent that time with somebody. I mean, Joe had
to get his nap in. Maybe he sold him for
five or ten minutes. But again, you gotta ask the
question how much of this was Joe and how much
of this was his autopen crew.

Speaker 14 (01:29:53):
Well, it was his auto pen crew, I mean, and
whether we're talking the Obamas, whether we're talking Sorrows, I mean,
the people who are behind the throne there doing all
this stuff was Yeah, I mean the decision was made,
We're going after Trump, and with Letitia James, with the

(01:30:14):
Alvin Bragg, judge, Jan mershawan Jack Smith have clear ties
back to the White House. So again I'm not saying
Biden himself conceived and orchestrated all this, but it was
done in his name, I mean. And early on there
was an article that I point to from the New

(01:30:35):
York Times where he was upset with Mary Garland because
he wanted him to be more like a prosecutor and
go after Trump. And he made that clear. So and
again that was reported by the New York Times, so
you can't doubt it. But all these cases were Again

(01:30:56):
you look at the classified documents case, he's mar Lago,
and then compare that it was in a secure place.
He had been president, he had the rights to keep
most of, if not all, those documents, compared to Joe Biden,
who had been having classified documents in seven different locations,

(01:31:17):
including the garage in his Delaware home where he wasn't
even staying there but Hunter was. And you know, you
have so many of those kind of thing. But they said,
now he's a sympathetic old man who probably didn't know
what he was doing. And you know the Robert hurb
defense of Biden, why they didn't prosecute him for that.

(01:31:39):
And then the Letitia James case they wanted they tried
to find him half a billion dollars and this was
all over a case where they said that he gave
false evaluations to get favorable loan and insurance rates. And
you know, the people who they brought to testify, like

(01:32:01):
deutsche Bach said no, you know, we don't take what
he says as being the absolute truth about the value
of the land. We do our own checking and we're
perfectly happy and we got all our money. And so
no one was defrauded. No one claimed to be defrauded.
But they came up with this case and they confined

(01:32:22):
jurys in New York in some cases just judges making
these calls. So yeah, on and on they went with these.
And again the Rico case in Georgia was over this
phone call where he was with Raffensberger and basically he said,
find me eleven thousand votes, you know, but the full

(01:32:45):
context of it is there were hundreds of thousands of
votes that were suspect in Georgia that you know, just
saying that's all I needed, you know, to have He
didn't say go out and manufacture votes. I mean that's
what they did in Pennsylvania, for instance, to win Pennsylvania
in that twenty twenty election.

Speaker 1 (01:33:07):
Right. Hey, Roger, I know you've got another appointment you've
got to get to. We could keep you another hour
on this subject. But Roger Aronoff, Executive director, editor of
the Citizens Commission on National Security. Roger, we want to
thank you so much for joining us here, but before
you go, please tell our listeners and viewers how they
can keep track of you and read the things you write.

Speaker 14 (01:33:29):
Thank you. Go to CC Nationalsecurity dot org. That's CC
for Citizens Commission Ccnationalsecurity dot org. And among our members
are Alan West, who you mentioned earlier. We have Claire Lopez,
former CIA officer. We have generals and Tom McInerney and

(01:33:51):
Paul Valley, Pete Hooks to a former chairman of the
House Intelligence Committee who's now taken leave to be ambassador
to Canada. So we have some great people, we have
some great guest columns. We're not we don't publish every day,
but we try to keep go, keep up with everything
we think. We have great articles and interviews up there,

(01:34:15):
and we you know we work behind the scenes. We
do a lot of things, and I actually have some
projects that we could do if we had more money.
So I know we all feel that way, so indeed
we do. I encourage your viewers to contact me through
the website and I'd love to be in touch with
you all. And so again Ccnationalsecurity dot Org.

Speaker 1 (01:34:41):
Again, Roger, we want to thank you so much for
joining us. Take care and God bless thank you both.

Speaker 14 (01:34:47):
You guys are great. We do great work and I
appreciate you so much.

Speaker 1 (01:34:50):
To you as to you and you are listening to
and watching the Conservative Commanders with George Landers, I'm Rich
Trader on you have the cibe. We're going to be
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And thank you for sticking with us. Is the Conservative
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Dreider coming to you from the Miclistudios Story Studios of
the au n TV network. I'm going to thank our
guest George Perry and Roger Aronoff for joining us today
here on the Conservative Commanders. We do appreciate their time

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and the time that they give us to give us
their wisdom here on the Conservative commanders Georgio two minute
diggy time. What do you got well?

Speaker 2 (01:39:24):
I think it's interesting. For years now, cities like Portland, Chicago,
and Los Angeles and a number of other cities have
seen repeated acts of violence carried out by groups like
Black Lives Matter and Antifa. And these aren't peaceful protests,
even though the media sometimes likes to pretend that they're
mostly peaceful. They're coordinated campaigns of intimidation, violence, destruction, and lawlessness.

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Businesses have been burned, police officers have been attacked and
even killed, and neighborhoods have been terrorized, and even private citizens.
In some cases, minority business owners have been killed by
Black Lives Matter people. So many Democrats continue to pretend
that these are just protesters exercise in their First Amendment rights,

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and I think myself, come on, stop being stupid. I mean,
what do you just It's like they're mentally retarded. Let's
be clear. Protesting means holding signs, speaking out, engaging in
civil discourse, and disagreeing with those in political power. It
does not mean smashing windows, setting fires, physically assaulting, people

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that you disagree with or who disagree with you. And
it does not mean blocking highways and trapping commuters who
are simply trying to get home from work or maybe
go to work. That's not free speech, that's mob rule.
What's even more troubling is the moral relativism that we've
seen on the left. If the cause aligns with their ideology,

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then violence becomes acceptable. Illegal activity is brushed aside as
quote passion or activism. But if the same tactics were
used by conservatives, they'd be labeled as extremists or threats
to democracy. So that double standard is dangerous and it
erodes the rule of law. And ANTIFA has been operating
with impunity in these many of these cities, often with

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the task that approval of progressive leaders, their mayors and
others who refuse to prosecute or even condemn the violence
that they do, and they pretend that it's, oh, they're
just opposing ICE, and I think myself, now, listen, if
they want to write an opbed article opposing Ice, they
have every right to do that. But what you don't
have a right to do is show up and start
attacking Ice people and harming them and so forth, and

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threatening their families and things like that, which is what
they've been doing.

Speaker 1 (01:41:43):
So we're just getting it. It's getting worse in it.

Speaker 2 (01:41:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:41:46):
Over this past weekend, a group of Antifa had ice,
a group of ICE officers surrounded. Those Ice officers pleaded
for help from the Chicago Police Department. They were told
to stand down. The Chicago Police Department was told to
stand down and not go to the aid of the

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Ice officers. You know, Georgey, they talk about that thin
blue line, that thin blue line that separates anarchy from sanity.
And when the Chicago Police Department is given orders by
their command to stand down and not go to the

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aid of anyone, not go to the aid of anyone,
that's destroying that thin blue line. George Landreth, Oh, you're right.

Speaker 2 (01:42:38):
It's Alsa is destroying our civil the foundations of our
civil society, because it's a message they're trying to send
a message, which is, if you're on the right side politically,
and I don't mean right as in the I'm talking
about on their side. If you're on the correct side
politically with them, then feel free to break the law,
feel free to do violent crime and so forth, because

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we'll text you and let it get you get away
with it. And that's not justice, that's selective enforcement. And
that's what the left does. That's what they're all about.
And so it's time for America to say, I will
not vote for these people anymore. I know they may
have grown up in a family that was democratic. I
understand those traditions are hard to break free from. But

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look at what you're seeing today and ask yourself, can
we continue to walk down that path? And the answer
is no. Americans deserve better. We deserve leaders who uphold
the law consistently, regardless of ideology. And we deserve cities
where families and businesses are safe and where political disagreement
doesn't turn to street warfare. It's fine for people to

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show up with if for example, if the people want
to stand outside an Ice office building with signs saying
they oppose what they're doing, but they don't do anything violent.
All they do is express a disapproval. I'm not saying
I agree with them, but I'm also not troubled by that.
That's what you would call a pro a lawful protest,
but that's not what they do. They attack journalists who

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cover them, particularly conservative journalists in Portland, they arrest the
journalists who's being attacked and who defends himself from the attack,
claiming that he's engaging in violence. And it's kind of like,
that's interesting, and this is just, you know, the double
standards unbelievable. So the question is how much longer can
you keep voting for essentially totalitarianism? And if you do,

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you're not a good American and you're not a good person,
and you're not a bright person. So you have a
choice to make. And the normalization of violence on the
left is not just a political problem, it's a moral one.
It's time we call it out for what it really is.

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All right, very good again, George. I want to thank
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