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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome fellow plurabals, Welcome
all of you drinks to society, rock dwellers, sic at
fans and stinkers. Once again, we want to welcome you here.
And this is the Conservative Commandos Radio show, and I'm
Rick Trador coming to you from the my Pillar studios
and my Store studios of the AU and TV Network
(00:28):
and joining me today as he does leading off the week,
is the president and CEO of Frontiers of Freedom, and
that is George Landrath. And George, welcome back, Welcome back
to Conservative Commandos.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
It is great to be here. After all, this is
the place to be, so.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
It is, it is the place today. But you know
this is this is one of those beautiful sunny, warm,
not humid, nice gentle breeze out of the north West,
and it'd be a great day to do anything, but
it's a great day to be with you here. George.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Absolutely yeah. I guess the global warming crowd has to
go nuts because it's not normal for the high temperature
to be in the upper seventies.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
O August.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
The Weather Channel was beside themselves today the fact that here,
at least on the Least Coast also known as the
East Coast. There's only been six days in this month
of August that have been ninety or above. In fact,
there have been more days below average than above average,
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and about so figures out that it's about two degrees
below average for the month of August. And they're beside themselves.
In fact, there's parts of the country, specifically up in
the Upper Midwest in like Minnesota or whatever, that are
having actually record low highs this week. So there, you know,
(02:05):
they were all beside themselves. How could this be?
Speaker 4 (02:08):
How could this be?
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Well, yeah, it doesn't support their agenda. No, it's staring
Americans into believing that our climate's going to burn up
or something. And it's just you know, that's all a
bunch of garbage. Science behind that isn't real science. It's
basically there. They have computer models. So I have a
computer model that I've created that predicts who will win
(02:30):
the Super Bowl. Wow, is that evidence of who actually
won the Super Bowl? Or is that just my opinion
who might win?
Speaker 5 (02:38):
It?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
That your opinion, George, exactly.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
And that's the difference between pretending that a computer model
is supposedly going because the computer models if you put
any information and then see what they predicted, and then
you find it they're always wrong. It'd be kind of
like if I every year predicted that a team that
went oh and fifteen was going to win the Super Bowl.
(03:02):
I think people go, yeah, I don't listen to that idiot.
He didn't know what he's talking about.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, George, is your picks for the last a ten
twenty years spen those Washington Redskins.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Actually it hasn't been, because they've been horrible for many
years because we had an owner that didn't seem that
he was doing They got better last year, obviously and
played in the NFC Championship Game.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
But does that work if we George?
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Well, they lost. But the bottom line is I wasn't
used to seeing them in the NFC Championship Game for
quite a while because when I was growing up and
I was in college and stuff. You know, they were
a great team. They were one of the dominant teams
in the NFL. They won three Super Bowls and appeared
in more than that. And the bottom line is when
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they had Joe Gibbs as the coach, they were really
doing something. They had a good owner at the time,
as well, and Jack can't cook. Because interestingly enough, he
owned a basketball team and a hockey team. They all
won championships. So this is runner that every team he
ever owned won championships. And the Lakers a pardon.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
Me, didn't he own the Lakers?
Speaker 2 (04:11):
He did. And he also owned a hockey team I
think out in La. Also the Kings, I think, yeah,
the Kings.
Speaker 5 (04:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
And what's interesting is he was not really a you know,
he didn't play football, he didn't play hockey, he didn't
play basketball. But he was a good owner and that
he would hire people that were high quality, like a
Joe Gibbs, for example, and then he'd back off and
let them run the team because he knew they knew
what they were doing.
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Well, I hate to crush your little thing here, George,
but the owner of the Washington Redskins, and I'm going
to call him the Redskins today, said nothing derogatory to anybuddy,
but that is the name. That's the historical name of
the team, Washington Redskins. Well, your present owner, Josh Harris,
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don't get your hopes too high in this guy. He's
also the owner of the seventy six ers. He's made
the disaster, disaster of that franchise. So for your sake, George,
and you're a very good friend, you really are, You're
a very good friend of mine. I really hope that
he does a better job for the Washington Redskins than
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he's done for the Philadelphia seventy six ers.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Well, me too.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
He's made some really bad hires, George.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Yeah, I'm hoping that this past year was evidence that
maybe he's made some improvements. But we'll see, I don't know,
you know, a decade from now, we'll know the answer.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Well, two things the Redskins have going for them. They
got a hell of a quarterback, hell of a young quarterback.
Oh and they've got a hell of a wide receiver.
And by the way, did you see, George, he's just
got a brand new contract to Terry McLaren. So I
like good things, my friends, George, And that can be
very generous since, by the way, the philled out the
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Eagles are the defending Super Bowl championship. So I can
afford to be generals, That's right, I can afford it,
So I would. I hope the Redskins do well for you,
except for the year that they played the Eagles.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Yeah, you could argue that the that both the Eagles
and the and the Commanders the Redskins have two of
the very, very high quality young quarterbacks, and that might
be part of the reason. I mean, obviously, quarterback by
themselves cannot make a team a winning team, because they
need people to block, they need people to catch the passes,
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they need a defense that can do about those things.
So I'm not saying that the only thing that matters,
but they probably are the single most important player on
the team. And both Philadelphia and Washington have very good quarterbacks.
Speaker 1 (06:52):
So, Georgia, when we started out today, do you think
her first segment would be about the NFL?
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I I wasn't thinking of that. I actually thought maybe
it might be about something weird that happened in the
governor's race in Virginia over the weekend, because basically, something
really ugly and racist and awful happened. And that was
a Thursday night the Arlington County School Board meeting the
Virginia Lieutenant governor win some early seers showed up. She's
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the first black elected women statewide, and she's an immigrant
from Jamaica, and she was a marine served in our
Armed forces and she's been serving in Virginia as the
Lieutenant Government the last four years. But she came to
school board meeting to speak against the school district's policy
which was letting men go into the girls' locker rooms
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and bathrooms if they claimed that they were, you know, women.
And in one case, one of the men that was
there was a guy that's older. He was like in
his twenties or thirties, and he has a criminal record
that includes some pretty gross, disgusting sexual crimes. But we're
gonna take him. We're gonna take him in his word,
(08:07):
he's a woman. And so she spoke out against that
and pointed out that it was stupid and unhelpful and
dangerous and we need to get back to read reasonable policies.
And a protester held up a sign. A Democratic activist
in Northern Virginia, a white woman, a white racist woman
(08:29):
held up a sign that said the following, Hey, Winsome,
if trans men can't use your bathroom, then blacks can't
share my waterflow. Oh and I'm thinking to myself, Oh,
my goodness, is not a serious policy argument. It's just
a racist slur and it's just kind of interesting. So,
(08:53):
you know, bottom line is that argument, to Clay, equates
the debate over sex based prime to see in intimate
spaces with the idea that racial segregation, that they're the
same thing. And I knew myself that's interesting, very interesting,
very stupid. So the woman who had that sign up
(09:14):
was doing two things. She was telling people, Hey, everybody,
I'm a white liberal racist, That's what she was saying.
And on top of that, she was saying, I'm also
a white stupid individual has a very low IQ. Because
it was a stupid argument, and it's just amazing to
me that left doesn't have any more sense than advertising.
(09:37):
It's like, look at Gavin Newsom. Every single day he
advertises what a low IQ individual he is, what a
stupid moron he is, and what a dishonest political monster
he is. It's just very interesting to me.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I was going to ask you, do we do have
to go to a break, so I was going to
ask you to hold your ammunition to laugh through the break,
then you can really tell us what you think about
Gavin Newsom. Well, George, let's get a little break in
here and do a little business. On the other side,
I'm going to ask you to please tell us what
(10:19):
you really think about. Gavin Newsom and this is the
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know before we went to the break, you were telling
us what you really thought about Governor Gavin Newsom, and
can you repeat that mantra of things George and your
poofed to back it up.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
Well, I think Gavin Newsom is the perfect example of
how a slick packaging politician can hide his political incompetence.
Gavin talks a big game, but let's look at the results,
because I don't really care what he talks about. I
don't care how he combs his hair. I care about
what has he done to San Francisco and to California
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when he was mayor and now governor, and what's he done.
California has some of the highest taxes in the nation,
yet it's roads, schools, and public safety are all deteriorating
despite the high taxes. Homelessness has exploded under his watch,
despite spending billions of taxpayer dollars supposedly to fix it,
(15:44):
and of course it's gotten much worse. So it's like,
how do you spend billions of dollars to fix homelessness
and make it worse? The answer is you're incompetent and corrupt,
and that is mister Newsom. Families are fleeing this state
and record numbers. And that's interesting because California has a
lot of things going for it. I mean, it has
(16:05):
wonderful weather, I can remember when I lived in la
for a period of time when I was a young attorney,
and I don't remember ever i had an overcoat because
I came from Virginia and we sometimes need a coat
in the wintertime. I never used it there. It just
wasn't that cold. I mean, in the wintertime. It's not
necessarily beach weather, but it was, you know, in the
(16:27):
sixties or low seventies, and.
Speaker 1 (16:30):
Not a lot of frost on the windshield aage.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
Yeah, exactly. I don't think I ever had to clear
frost off my windshield once while I lived there.
Speaker 5 (16:37):
You know.
Speaker 2 (16:38):
My point is is that you can compare that to say,
let's say, if you live in Minnesota. I'm not saying
Minnesota is a bad place. I'm just saying, though, if
you don't want to be shoveling your driveway an awful lot,
if you don't want to be scraping ice off your
windshield almost every time you get in the car in
the morning, then you probably wouldn't want to live there.
And yet in California it's just kind of paradisical weather,
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and yet people are just leaving in massive numbers. No
state is losing population as fast as they are, and
it's because people can't find affordable housing, they can't find
good schools, and they don't even feel safe in their
own communities. So they're just going, I'm moving the heck
out of this place. Businesses are leaving too, from small
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shops to major corporations because of the suffocating regulations and
hostile practices and policies and taxes. So and what's interesting, though,
is Gavin Newsom loves to lecture the rest of America.
He can't even manage his own backyard.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Well, by the way, you know, he is running for president.
George said, this is this new thing lecturing America.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
That's a good, good point. But you know, if you
look at it, California has abundant natural resources. It has
a lot of you know, universities that used to be
considered world class universities.
Speaker 4 (17:51):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
And it has has an enormous potential. I think there.
I can remember when I lived there, California, if it
was just its own separate nation, would have had like
the sixth largest economy in the world.
Speaker 1 (18:03):
And you're not even talking about all the natural resources, George, oil, gold, lumber.
I mean this as tremendous natural reasons.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
They shut all those down. But his leadership has failed
in tremendously obvious ways. You don't have to be a
policy expert to kind of look at what's going on there.
People are voting with their feet, hundreds of thousands of
people every single year for a long time, and California
historically was always growing in population. It was only recently
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in the last decade that they started in decline. It's
kind of interesting. He doesn't present real solutions. He chases
headlines and photo ops, and he's more concerned about his
national ambitions than he is about the people he was
elected to serve. So he's bottom line, he's a piece
of human refuse.
Speaker 1 (18:53):
Well, George, anybody who thinks that he should be the
next president should think back to about six months ago
when southern California was burning, when there was tremendous fires
in northern California. I mean, it seems like every year
you have tremendous fires, floods, MUDs, lights in California, drought,
and they're not doing anything. They are they improving the
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forest so you don't have these cerebral fire as far
as no, are they building any new reservoirs. No, are
they doing anything to improve the infrastructure. No, are they
doing anything to produce more electricity. No, are they doing
anything to solve their massive problem.
Speaker 11 (19:35):
No.
Speaker 1 (19:36):
You know, George, those homes that burnt in southern California
last year. It's been over six months and there isn't
any of those homes that are being rebuilt yet. Why
because the people haven't gotten the permits. They can't get
the permits to rebuild these homes.
Speaker 12 (19:54):
Yeah, it's terrible.
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Yeah, I mean, I think that is a very good
illustration of a very true bottom line here, and that
is Gavin Newsom is not merely just a lousy governor,
or merely a corrupt governor. He of course is both
lowsy and corrupt. But what I think he is proof
of is that arrogance without competence is an incredibly dangerous
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mixture in politics.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
Well that's the key word in competence, Church, because all
the things that we've been just talking about goes to
show how incompetent a governor he really is. I can
remember during those fires, this woman come up to him
and wanted to talk to him, and he said to
the woman, Oh, I can't talk to you. I'm on
the phone. With the president and what the woman says,
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let me speak to him. And he was caught because
he wasn't talking to the president. He absolutely lied to
this woman. Light between his teeth. By the way, it's
related to Nancy Pelosi. So I guess somehow, some way,
the acorn stonefall too far from the trees. They enriched himself.
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They tell us what to do. Yet it's like, what
it's good for thee, but not for me. Remember, he's
telling everybody to huddle down bunk. This was doing the
wuhan flu front. Tell everybody to stay in. You can't
go in the beach, you can't leave your house. We're
going to rest it. You're going to be arrested if
you go anywhere go outside. And he was having dinner
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at the same time, he was having dinners at one
of the swankiest, most expensive restaurants in California.
Speaker 2 (21:29):
He rested people on the beach. Yeah, and they're outdoors
on a beach where there's lots of wind and things
like that, so lots of fresh air. That just lets
you know what a totalitarian person he is. To be honest,
he probably should be deported because he's done more damage
to America than we can possibly imagine. We don't need
people like him here. Or maybe just put him to prison.
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Maybe you can't just put him in prison because he's
violated all kinds of laws. The billions he's spent on homelessness,
We're gonna find out where that money went. Because he
wasn't burning someone backyard. It was probably used in a
very corrupt way, as the left loves to do, as
we saw with USAID, for example, to fund the left
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and their friends.
Speaker 1 (22:12):
Well what's even scarier to me, George, I bet if
you ran for a third term as governor when the
stupid people of California. You know, we broadcast the show
in tense STEV stations at California and one radio station,
and I hate to say this to our viewers and
listeners in California. You're stuck on stupid people. If you
continued to vote for Gavin Newsom or any Democrat, because
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that's what you've been doing all your life, It's time
to get your head.
Speaker 2 (22:37):
Out of the mud. Well they had to think it,
even recall them a couple of times, and didn't do that.
So the question I guess would be, is it is
it that the people of California are stupid and voting
for him? Or is it voter fraud? And it could
be that both, because we do know that they've been
using voter fraud in California a great deal, So I
don't know which one it is or with some of both.
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But the real it does worry me that you could
have a state that would elect somebody who's done what
he's done to the state, So like, really, you're not
paying attention, You're not watching what's happening. This is an
example of where you get what you deserve in a
democratic society where you you know, if you vote for
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crooks and stupid people and you do it consistently, then
guess what your state is going to be a Hello,
And that's where California's headed and Georgia.
Speaker 1 (23:29):
If you look at the polls right now, he's the
leading Democrat contender for president twenty eight And I know polls,
and I'll be honest with you how I feel about
the polls. They remind me of the standings in Major
League Baseball. Don't mean the damn thing to the last
day of the season, but the polls are interesting and
fun to follow. But if you look at the polls today,
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Gavin Newsom is the leading candidate to be the Democrat
candidate for president. Why aren't these Demo christs thinking? Or
is that how bad their benches? George, that Gavin Newsome's
the best, that Gavin Newsom is the best choice, the
best pick. I mean, so what is he Georgia or
the Democrat voters just stuck on stupid? Or is Gavin
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Newsom the best they have to offer?
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Could be a little bit of both, to be honest
with you, because like AOC, you know, at least Gavin
Newsom has some you know, he's good at at faking
being competent, whereas AOC is not good at faking that
every time she speaks. Gavin Newsom I don't think comes
across as particularly smart, but he's been fairly successful in
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pretending to care about people, pretending to worry about them,
and so forth. Like when he lied to the woman
you're describing earlier about talking to that was just his
way of being. You know, I'd love to talk to you,
but I can't right now because I'm talking to the prosidum.
Speaker 12 (24:54):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (24:54):
Well no, he wasn't. He was just lying. But I
think that's the danger of someone like him.
Speaker 1 (25:00):
Well, look at let's look at the bench, George. You
got Kevin Newsom, you got Peppo to Judge, you got
Beata or Work, you got Pritzker, the governor of Illinois.
I mean, you got Aosa and by the way, Bernie
Sanders she'll probably run again if Kamala Harris she's making
sense like she wants to run again. So when you
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look at those, I guess Kevin Newsom is the best
they got to offer. And again that shows you how poor,
how poor the Democrat Party is right now?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Yeah, well you look at their leadership on Capitol Hill.
It's the same thing. It's a bunch of clowns, just
I mean, stupid people with low IQs who are incredibly dishonest,
can't even bother to tell you the truth. Like how
many Democrats are there out there in Washington now? Or
if we could also include the governor of Maryland who've
lied about their military background and pretended that they have this,
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that or whatever. And it's just like why do they
do this? Why is that okay in their party? Why
is it that lying and pretending that you were a
military hero or that you received awards or you did
this or that, or you served in Vietnam when you didn't.
Why do they do this and why do they get
away with it? Because in our party, if someone did that,
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I think that would ruin them. I don't think we
put up with that.
Speaker 1 (26:17):
Hey, George, in the last couple of minutes that we
have during this segment, would you tell our listeners and
viewers about our guests that we have for today?
Speaker 12 (26:26):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Absolutely. We always have the very best guests, and we've
got two great folks coming up to prove it. One
we've got Jim Simpson. He is an investigative journalist and economist.
He was a former budget examiner for the White House
Office of Management and Budget. He's also been very involved
in trying to fight against Marxist playbook stuff that goes on,
(26:50):
and he's written a book on that subject, Manufactured Crisis,
The War to End America, and his purpose there, I
think is to help Americans become more, if you will,
vigilant so they can prevent this from happening. And then
our next guest is going to be Wayne Cruz and
we've had him on before as well, and he's the
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Fred L. Smith Fellow at Regulatory Studies at the Competitive
Enterprise Institute, and he works on the impact of government
regulation on free enterprise and what it costs. And he's
done a lot of research on that, and so I
think we'll have a great conversation with him about the
cost that is imposed on the average American family by
the regulatory state.
Speaker 1 (27:32):
All right, So we do have a couple of great
guests joining us here today on the Conservative Commandos. I'm
Rick Trader ma cous today is George Lander. George is
the president and CEO of Frontiers of Freedom. He's the
author of a great book let, Freedom Ring Again. Don't
go wage. We'll be back with her guests right after
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this break.
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Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos. I'm glad you're stuck
around because we always have the very best guests on
TV and radio, and we've got Jim Simpson here. Jim
is an investigative journalist and economist. He's a former budget
examiner at the White House Office of Management and Budget
and he's best known for his relentless work exposing the
(31:14):
Marxist playbook driving America's political crisis. And he's done a
lot of research that has helped fuel, for example, Glenn
Beck series on the Cloward pivot strategy that appears in
documentaries like Agenda, Grinding Down America's America, Grinding excuse me,
(31:35):
Grinding America Down, and Enemies Within. And he's written a
very good book one that I think is definitely worth reading,
and that is Manufactured Crisis, The War to End America.
And this book takes a look and does a deep
dive into the chaos that we've seen, from weaponized government
agencies to cultural subversion. And he's not really just presenting
(32:00):
a theory. He's showing you the evidence of these things,
the facts behind these things, and the roadmap of the
forces determined to dismantle our republic, complete with names, dates,
and tactics. So it's a very educational book and I
think it will help you as Americans to preserve America
because then you will be wiser and more opprescient in
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your observance of what's happening, because sometimes politicians are really
good at hiding their agenda. And the price of freedom
is eternal vigilance. So Jim's gonna help us be more vigilance.
So anyhow, in this interview, we're going to walk through
the evidence and talk about solutions. Jim, can you start
off The title of the book is a manufactured crisis.
Some people might say, oh, well, it's just a crisis.
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It wasn't manufactured. It's just unfortunate. This is very manufactured.
So you're right, but I wanted you to help us
understand that and explain why. Thanks.
Speaker 14 (32:51):
First, first, let me thank you for having me on.
It's great to be here with you.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
I'd like to.
Speaker 14 (32:57):
Start out with a quote from Vladimir Lenin, who was
the first leader of the Soviet Union in nineteen seventeen
when they took over in really what was a coup.
It wasn't a revolution at all. And this is not
a direct quote. It's a quote from a person that
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I know who was a radical leftist and got red
pilled by seeing what communism was really actually about. But
he had been very involved and for example, the Salvador
in civil war, and he lost a very good friend
by the Communists, and so he became virulently anti communist.
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But he knows more about it than anybody I've ever
met before. So here's what Lenin said. Deepen the contradictions,
that is, exacerbate, exaggerate, or create problems social and ethnic
differences and discrepancies and disparities, rifts, etc. If they don't exist,
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create them, or if you can't create them, convincingly claim
that they exist, and then deepen them and then in
the profit and the process, profit the most from them
in any way you can politically, ideologically and financially of course,
always to bankroll the left. They like being rich, and
in the resulting chaos blame the other side for everything
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that they're doing, and finally come up with solutions that
will deepen the crises and make things worse, on and
on and on, creating ever more crises until they finally
the capitalist society which they have targeted, which America has
always been the main enemy, is collapsed, and then they
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can build a socialist country under Bolshevik supervision on the
road to communism. And that's what we're watching happening before
our eyes today.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
Absolutely. I think it's much more obvious now than it
was earlier. An example would be they're now running people
who are self proclaimed socialists, and back then, to be honest,
if you were to ask people like Lenin what he was,
he would tell you he was a socialist. Yes, and
so was Mussolini. So was Giovanni gentile?
Speaker 5 (35:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 14 (35:28):
So was Hitler really?
Speaker 5 (35:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (35:30):
No, Hitler exactly. Hitler was a card carring socialist, yes,
And I think we have to understand that reality because
in modern world socialism, I think some people think it's like, oh, well,
that's kind of like you know nations that have a
huge welfare state. Yes, no, not actually that may be
an element towards socialism. But an example would be Norway
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still has a market economy. So I think we've gotten
confused is what a socialist is. So they're now happy
to admit their socialists, or they didn't used to be
willing to. I think everyone understood. If you'd ask someone
in nineteen forty five what it meant to be a socialist,
they would have seen it as being a communist exactly,
or a fascist, because that's what they you know, the
two were. But anyhow, I thought I would just ask
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you to help us understand when this began, because, for example,
maybe I'm wrong about this, but if you go back
in time, there was a time when the Democratic Party
wasn't universally supportive of socialism. An example would be, I'm
not so sure that mister Truman was supportive of it.
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And I go back in time to someone like a
John F. Kennedy, who John F. Kennedy seemed to be
anti communist. Near as I can tell, he was a
you know, in his time frame, was considered liberal, but
by today's standards, he'd probably be a Republican if you
look at what he tried to do and what his
accomplishments were. And what was interesting was he spoke well
of our founders. An example would be when he had
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a bunch of people to the White House who were
Nobel Prize winners. He said to them, never has there
been such a collection of intelligence here in the dining
room of the White House, except for when Thomas Jefferson
dined alone. And I'm thinking to myself, that's not something
that Joe Biden would say today. That's not something that
a Barack Obama would say today, because they hated these
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people and they wanted to So I want to ask
you kind of what happened. How did this all transition?
And for a lot of us, as Americans, we probably
didn't notice it until maybe very recently, like the last
ten years. But I suspect this has been going on
longer than ten years.
Speaker 5 (37:28):
Much longer.
Speaker 14 (37:28):
To help me figure that out, yeah, yeah, it's a
very interesting question. And I will say JFK was very
outspoken anti communist, but behind the scenes he might not
have been as anti communist as he claimed to be.
For example, during the Cuban missile crisis, our supposed compromise
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but the Soviet Union was to get rid of obsolete
missiles in Turkey and allow them to continue their interactions
with Cuba as long as they didn't put missiles there.
What nobody tells anybody is that Robert Kennedy told the
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Russian diplomat and I forget his name, famous guy, but
I just at the moment forgot his name, he said,
don't tell anybody what we agreed to, because it would
destroy us politically. What they agreed to was, first of all,
that those Turkish missiles were not obsolete at all. They
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were a very good defensive perimeter around the Soviet Union.
But the most egregious thing they did that virtually nobody knows,
is they made a pledge. They made an agreement with
Cuba that America would never invade Cuba again never. You know, well,
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we didn't really do it. Cuban expats did it, and
we abandoned them in the field thanks to Kennedy's last
minute decision to deny air support, which may basically made
it a lost proposition. So that was one thing. But
the other thing that they did was they promised that
not only would they never invade Cuba, but they would
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actually prevent other nations from trying to overthrow Cuba. So essentially,
the Kennedy administration gave Cuba a free hand in Central
and South America, which has resulted in untold civil wars,
mass murder, and mayhem throughout the entire hemisphere. So there's
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a little bit of context you have to add when
you talk about JFK being anti communists. The same thing
is true with Truman. Under Truman, there were a lot
of communists Soviet eyes that were working in the State Department,
and this was under FDR. It started under FDR, like
for example Alger Hisss and Harry Dexter White, who most
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people haven't heard of, but he was one of the
most notorious Soviet agents, and it was his letter that
actually provoked Japan to attack Pearl Harbor because they saw
no other way out. And the reason he did it
was because the Soviets were facing a war on two
fronts from the west by the Germans and from the
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east by the Japanese, and getting us involved in the
war with the Japanese would take pressure off the Soviet Union.
So he did that. And then he also made sure
that when Shanghai Checks a nationalist Chinese were fighting the Communists,
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that they were denied the one hundred billion dollars an
aid that they were promised and actually appropriated by Congress,
and he held up the check long enough so that
they couldn't get the arms they needed to defeat the
Maoist communists and they had to flee the island. So
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those are two things he did.
Speaker 2 (41:19):
And what.
Speaker 14 (41:21):
Harry Truman did. Instead of having arrested and tried for
treason and shot, he was sent off to be found
the World Bank. And then he was sent off to
Breton Woods to found the International Monetary Fund. So those
two organizations were founded by a Soviet agent, and also
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so was the United Nations. The charter was written by
Alger Hisss. So you have to take all those things
sort of in context. But compared to today, yes, they
were very anti communists, but even in the fifties, you know,
they were savagely attacking Joseph McCarthy, even though he was
right on spot on the money. There was definitely massive
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subversion or massive penetration of our government by the Soviet Union,
Soviet agents, and so you know, it goes back really
to some extent the Wilson administration, a big extent, the
FDR administration, and then after Joe McCarthy got so seriously,
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you know, he was the first case of a cancel
cancel culture, if you will, and he intimidated, that's his example,
intimidated people from actually talking about communists. And of course
the House on American Activities Committee was ended shortly after that,
well ended in the early seventies. And so, but also
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as our culture changed, as the sixties revolutionaries grew up
and took positions and universities and in government, all of
those things began to gradually change my own personal opinion
is that somewhere in the seventies or eighties, the Democratic
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Party decided that they wanted to be on the winning side,
and even most conservatives thought in the long run that
the winning side was going to be the communists, the Soviet.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
Communists, And so that's good.
Speaker 14 (43:32):
They made the decision, and perhaps not all of them,
a lot of the Southern Democrats were very anti communists,
but ultimately that's what they decided. And then as more
and more these kids grew up in the woke culture
and all of the things that they were being taught
by left wing college professors, you know, it just became
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part and parcel of who they are.
Speaker 2 (43:57):
Right, Well, that's a good place. Where's take a quick break, folks,
don't go away, because Jim Simpson is back. We've got
more than discuss and I can promise you it'll definitely
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Speaker 2 (47:41):
Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos. I'm glad you stuck
around because we've been having a great conversation with Jim Simpson.
He is an investient of journalist economists. He used to
be a budget examiner at the White House Office of
Management Budget and he has a very very good book
that is definitely worth reading and studying and learning from
Manufactured Crisis, The War to End America and as you
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might have guessed, he's not for the war to end America,
and that's why he wrote about it to help us
prevent that from happening. And I appreciate the insights that
he's brought. An example would be I think in the
book he talks about the Cloward even strategy, that of
a manufactured crisis, and how this was something that they
formulated and talked about doing. I think it was nineteen
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sixty six and they were radical socialists, professors at the
Columbia University. So give us an idea about what role
they played in this self destruction of America.
Speaker 14 (48:39):
Yeah, no, absolutely, they were pivotal in terms of creating
using the crisis strategy in numerous different spheres. You know,
in the first part of our segment, I quoted lenin saying,
create crisis and then exaggerate them or manufacture them, and
then prose solutions that give you more crises that deepen
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the problems, and continue to do that over and over
and over again until this targeted society collapses and then
they can take over without firing a shot. And so
Cloward Piven didn't originate the idea of the manufactured crisis strategy,
but they definitely put skin on the bone, and they
started with the welfare system. Most people don't know Richard
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Cloward was the inspiration for President Johnson's Great Society program,
and that was a vast expansion of welfare now Johnson's.
Speaker 2 (49:36):
And it wasn't a great society that was building. That's
so it's kind of like the Inflation Reduction Act. It
wasn't about that, or the Tordable Care Act. It wasn't
about that. It's always the opposite. So it wasn't a
great society. It was the horrible, awful society.
Speaker 14 (49:51):
Yeah, no, it was slave society. It was creating a
welfare system that would addict large numbers of people to
government spending, and it would all be identified with the Democrats,
so they would benefit politically. But Cloward and Piven had
a different idea. Cloward said, welfare douses the fires of rebellion,
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and they wanted rebellion. They wanted to use blacks and
other minorities, inner city poor blacks as the street army
for their coming revolution. And you can't do that if
people are happy and contented and they're prospering. And ironically,
before the Great Society was enacted, blacks were actually doing
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quite well.
Speaker 2 (50:40):
And now you're right about that. I have a friend
who wrote a book on that, and they pointed out that,
for example, an interesting statistic the demographic in America, say
in nineteen fifty, it was most likely to live with
his wife and children and be employed and so forth
was guess what a black man. And so that's interesting
what's happened because of course, since the greats is society
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is trashed. That yeah, and that was done on purpose.
That was the whole purpose of it, the goal.
Speaker 5 (51:05):
Yep, it was.
Speaker 14 (51:07):
And also the unemployment rate among teens was lower among
blacks and it was whites. So as Walter Williams famous
black economists pointed out, a great guy and metem once.
But anyway, Yeah, So the idea of the Cloward Piven
idea was to use the poor as a battering ram
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against society. And the way that they were going to
do that first was by packing the welfare roles with
as many beneficiaries as they possibly could, demanding every service.
And they knew that the government couldn't afford to do that,
and so if they were able to, that would create
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a crisis and collapse in the government, and those people
who had become used to getting welfare would now riot
in the streets. And then their solution to that, the
solution to the crisis that would create a bigger crisis,
was a guaranteed annual income, and the guaranteed annual income
they proposed would be in today's dollars between forty to
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eighty thousand dollars per family of four. Now, think about that.
Does that lower welfare spending? And do you think the
other welfare programs would have been abolished? Of course not.
No government program gets abolished. So it would just double
the amount of money, or even more than double the
amount of money that the government was forced to spend,
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moving the proportion of government spending away from national defense,
law enforcement, things that the government was created to do,
and move it all towards welfare to the point where
today something like eighty percent, well if you include social security,
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about eighty percent of our government spending goes to welfare
and social security. And I think it's forty or fifty
percent welfare alone. It's just it's nuts and so but
at that time, was it was tiny, it was very little,
but they packed the roles. And another thing that I
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point out in my book, I have taught a chapter
in the book titled weaponizing the Poor of the War
against Black America, and the idea started in the nineteen twenties.
You know, the NAACP National Association for the Advancement of
Colored People was founded by white socialists and the only
black person on the staff was W. E. B. Dubois
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and he was a Communist, and in fact, he was
such an outspoken Communist they had to throw him off
the board after a while because it was hurting their
fundraising capabilities. And later on he formally joined the Communist
Party and announced how much he loved the Soviet Union.
But anyway, they packed the welfare roles and that was
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responsible for almost collapsing the government in New York in
the nineteen seventies. And Rudy Julianni named Cloward and Piven
as the architects, the saboteurs of that situation. He named
them personally as the ones responsible and so it sort
of worked, but it was just a start, and Richard
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Cloward is one of his understudies. With a guy named
Wade Rafki, they started ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations
for Reform Now, which became one of the largest community organisms,
well the largest community organization in the country, and they
while Cloward and Pivern were studying the voting system, Acorn
began doing all kinds of activism, and then Cloward and
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Piven wrote the text for the motor voter law, the
National Voter Registration Act, which President Clinton signed into law
in nineteen ninety three. Acorn went to work using that
to register fraudulent hundreds of thousands of budulent registrations first
to the election before President Obama was elected, and it
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created massive vote fraud, and that was really the goal
in the National Voter Registration Act. The goal was to
enable was to turn basically turn the federal and state
government into voter registration for low income people, which of
course would have benefited the Democrats much more. And at
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the same time, it was so complicated that it confused
rather than helped. The situation made cleaning the roles very difficult,
and the Democrats under Obama didn't even bother They said
they were going to focus on the section that talked
about registering voters, and this was just one step. Their
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ultimate goal, again creating a crisis to create more crises,
was to advocate for automatic voter registration, so that everybody
in the country would automatically be registered to vote. And
of course, because of the multi databases around the country,
you would have three or four, two or three people registered,
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the same people registered two or three times be registered
in one place in another place, create even bigger chaos
in the voting system, which they would exploit, just as
Nancy Pelosi and company exploited COVID to introduce mass mail
and voting, which they had actually been advocating for about
ten years and which was one of the big ways
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that they stole the twenty twenty election. And then Haycorn
advocated subprime mortgage, the subprime mortgage program, and the Clinton
administration was on board with that as well, and that
was another crisis strategy, and in that case they targeted
the entire financial system. That was the purpose of the
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subprime mortgage agenda and the Clint administration, Andrew Cuomo was
the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development at the time,
and he said, yeah, we recognize there's a lot of risk,
but we think it's worth it. Well, we know what happened.
It caused the biggest recession since the Great Depression, and
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that was a deliberate crisis strategy, not promoted by Richard
Cloward and Francis Fox Piven directly, but by their understudy
Wade Rafty of Acorn and other radical housing groups. So
that was the third one. And then when Obama came along,
they said, Hey, this is such a great idea, We're
just going to expand it to everything. And they had
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already been long time working on expanding immigration to the
benefit of Democrats, to bring in more potential future Democrat voters.
But then they talking about open borders, and Obama actually
started that, and open borders has become the biggest crisis
strategy that they've come up with yet. But you can
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also talk about the whole transgender issue. You can talk
about critical race theory, all of these other various agendas
whose purpose is to divide us, to confuse us, and
to make us ashamed of our own country so that
we are defenseless and actually may even welcome the intervention by, oh,
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for example, the communist Chinese.
Speaker 2 (58:27):
Yeah, that's a very very good point. We're about out
of time, but I wanted to ask you with one
last question, just to briefly tell us how they can
follow you online and get your book those kinds of things.
I don't want them to stalk you, but you know,
online be in a position to follow you and learn from.
Speaker 5 (58:44):
Sure.
Speaker 14 (58:44):
I have an account on X James M. Simpson at
James M. Simpson. I have a Facebook page as five
thousand followers, so it's at the max. It's kind of
hard to friend me on Facebook, but you can follow
me there anyway. I post a lot of articles that
I think are important and I comment on them. I
just got started with Instagram, so I'm not really very
(59:06):
good at that. I'm a latecomer at all this social
media stuff. But X is a good place. My website
is crisis now dot net. Crisis now dot net and
that's really just an archive of all my articles, well
not all of them, but a lot of them going all
the way back to two thousand and five. And also
(59:27):
provide direct links to Amazon where you can get this book.
You can also get it at aid Books and other
independent book distributors Books a million. You can even get
it at Barnes and Noble Online. That's a source for
my writings and my books. If you want to get
a signed copy of my book, you can email me
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at Simpson dot Truth at gmail dot com. Simpson dot
Truth at gmail dot com. I used to have a
blog site called Truth and Consequences, so that's where that
comes from. But if you email me, we can figure
out how you pay for it. I need an extra
five dollars to cover my cost of shipping it, and
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it doesn't really recover all of my costs, but it's
good enough anyway, so it would be twenty five dollars
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twenty dollars at Amazon. But I can send you a
signed copy if that interests you at Simpson Truth at
gmail dot com. And I also always answer queries from
anybody who emails me.
Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
That sounds very good, Thank you, Jim, and folks, if
you want to help protect your country, and there's if
you want to be eternally vigilant, I think manufactured crisis
the way the war to end America will help you
be more vigilant and help you defend America. But right now,
up against the clock, so we've got to run, but
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Speaker 2 (01:04:13):
Absolutely always a pleasure to introduce our guests because we
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we've got Wayne Cruz here to prove it to you.
Speaker 12 (01:04:22):
Wayne is the Fred L.
Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
Smith Fellow in Regulatory Studies at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.
In his work, he explores the impact and the costs
of government regulation and also works, of course, to make
sure that we have free enterprise. He has been published
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and PBS's News Hour. And before he was with the CEI,
the Competitive Enterprise Institute, he worked at the Cato Institute,
and also he was at the US Senate and the
Food and Drug Administration. So he has a lot of
experience and a lot of different angles to understand what's
going on. So Wayne, welcome back to the Conservative Commandos.
We're very glad to have you.
Speaker 5 (01:05:27):
I'm very happy to be here. Thank you so much
for thinking of me. I appreciate the opportunity.
Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
I wanted to ask you because most of us are
very familiar with the phrase the Ten Commandments, but you
all have a study called ten thousand commandments, and it's basically,
I think, picking up or pointing out the idea. And
I forget exactly which philosopher it was that said this,
but he pointed out that when a government has too
many commandments or laws and regulations, that it basically starts
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screwing everything up. And it's not that it has to
be only ten, but by the time you get to
ten thousand, you are way, way, way overboard. So I
wanted to ask it to help us understand the study
that you've done, because when I've read it, I always
think to myself, Wow, this is very insightful and they've
really done a good job of looking at this.
Speaker 12 (01:06:14):
So Wayne educate us here.
Speaker 5 (01:06:17):
Well, I really appreciate that, George. The ten thousand Commandments
Report is a compilation I started doing you mentioned working
at the Senate. I did it back in those days. Look,
we know what, however much we may be frustrated by
federal spending. For example, we know this year the federal
government is going to spend seven trillion dollars and have
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a two trillion dollar deficit, even not in wartime and
not in crisis time like we were in COVID, we
can be frustrated by federal spending and the debt. But George,
at least we can look that up. The same has
never been true for the vast sweep of the regulatory state.
And I'm talking about environmental regulations, health and safety regulations, labor, paperwork, energy,
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all of the financial all of these vast interventions of
the federal government that are like a hidden tax. We
know the individual income tax, the corporate income tax, but
we don't see the hidden tax of regulation, which comes
in the form of lost productivity, lost jobs, compliance costs,
and so forth. At this point in doing the ten
(01:07:24):
thousand Commandments report, and there are a lot more than
ten thousand, by the way, but the federal agencies already
put out around three thousand rules and regulations every single year,
while Congress puts out this past year one hundred and
seventy five laws. I call that the unconstitutionality index. You've
got nineteen regulations from unelected bureaucrats for every one law
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that comes out of Congress. So they're pumping out regulations
like chocolate bunnies. And I'm trying to wrap my hands
around that. So three thousand rules a year last year,
Joe Biden his final under year had one hundred and
five thousand pages in the Federal Register. That is a
knockout record cosmic levels of regulations being published in the
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Federal Register. Donald Trump in his first term had gotten
that count down to around sixty thousand. But we always
have these thousands of rules every year. I'm trying to
tabulate it with this report and kind of make it
like the historical tables of the US of the federal government.
You know, you can look up, you know, historical records
on the debt, the debt sit out layser sipts and
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all of that. Try to do a little bit like
that for regulations. And my placeholder for regulatory costs this year. Now,
I'm not a central planner. I don't think I know
what regulatory costs are because that's largely you know, experienced
by the one having to pay the compliance or by
the jobs lost to the productivity loss. We're not central planners.
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We don't know exactly what those dollar values are. Nonetheless,
I use a placeholder of two point one five five
trillion this year. Put that in perspective. I mentioned that
two trillion dollar debt deficit, regulations the same the same magnitude.
Individual income taxes last year approximately two trillion, similar to
the regulatory costs. Corporate pre tax profits three point five trillion,
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So regulatory costs are sixty percent of that. Corporate income
taxes around five hundred billion, So regulatory costs four times
what corporations paying income taxes. So those are just some
of the ways I try to put a face on it,
if you will. I mean, you know, with three thousand
rules coming out every year, you know, they're a lot
more than ten thousand. And it's even worse than that,
(01:09:38):
because it's not just you know, the few dozen laws
from Congress and then the three thousand rules and regulations
from agencies, but especially in the environmental realm and financial regulations,
these agencies are putting out what I've taken to calling
regulatory dark matter. And Trump had address to some of
this in his first term, which is great, and I
hope he does it again. But these are the guy
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into documents, the policy statements, the notices, the bulletins, memoranda, circulars,
administrative interpretations. You know, I put together a word cloud
on this stuff. There's just so much of it. And
so those are things I'm trying to tabulate, you know,
with Trump putting figures out or requiring agencies to do
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portals on guidance documents. It was a big breakthrough. But
when Biden came in, he did what he called modernizing
regulatory review, which meant getting rid of it altogether, and
he wiped out the entire Trump reform agenda. Now Trump
is back and he's ramping it back up again, and
maybe we can talk about that a little bit too,
but I'll pause right there.
Speaker 12 (01:10:40):
Well, no, that's very helpful.
Speaker 2 (01:10:41):
I think I saw that, you know, just to put
this in, if you will, tangible understanding. Because we talk
about trillions of dollars. Most people's eyes plays over because
they don't know what that means. But as I understand that,
that translates to about sixteen thousand dollars per Householover family.
Speaker 5 (01:10:56):
So yeah, and I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
Thinking to myself, So let's say you make seventy six
thousand dollars a year. Of course you pay taxes on that,
you know, sales tax and other thing. They take maybe
a quarter of what you made, but off the very
top that means sixteen thousand. So you're before they even
have to pay all that taxes and other things that
get taken out of your paycheck. You're gonna pay sixteen
(01:11:18):
thousand dollars in terms of either lost opportunity or higher
cost for goods and services because of all the regulations
that exist. And I think to myself, if Trump promises
to get rid of some of those, that's a way
to help us have you know, it's kind of like
lowering your taxes that helps too. It's er I've always
felt like the regulation was a way for the forment
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government to tax us without being blamed for taxing us,
because when you know, if they pass the tax bill,
then you pay it. You've got proof you paid it,
and you know how much it was. The problem with
regulatory costs are you don't know, Like you get your
electric bill and maybe your electric bill is twice as
high as it used to be because of a bunch
of stupid electrical policies that they put in place in regulations.
(01:12:03):
But guess what, the bill they mail you in the
mail does not say half your bill here is because
of regulations. You think it's maybe, oh the electric company's
ripping me off.
Speaker 5 (01:12:12):
Yeah, that's right. That's why it's very insidious, and that's
why I kind of call it a hidden tax, and
you really hit on that because it's varied in the
cost of things that we buy and the services that
we purchase, it that we purchase, you know, it's in
terms of higher prices do to lost jobs and due
to lower productivity. So it's very, very difficult to get at.
(01:12:33):
I think the problem is not you know, the question
ought not to be should we try to tabulate regulatory costs,
but whether you do it top down or bottom up?
And I think there's some advantages or disadvantages to doing both.
But we have to acknowledge Geors that we really have
to have Congress be accountable for this stuff because you
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said that you know, they can get by with doing
a regulation rather than a tax, and it's true because
the two are substitutes each other. And as it stands,
you know, the joke always goes. You know, you can
have a member of Congress, you know, stand up in
front of the Greenies, the Sierra Clubs, and these other
entities and say I voted for Clean Air Act amendments
and then walk across the street the Chamber of Commerce
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and say the EPA and the Energy Department are out
of control with these new regulations, and so it lets
them play both sides. One of the solutions to it,
since we know we're never going to perfectly solve the
problem of tabulating regulatory costs, but we still need to try.
I favor regulatory budgeting, sunsetting, and all these sorts of things,
but we have to have Congress approve the major rules
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that really wants to see and act it. In other words,
right now, if Congress wants to disapprove a regulation from
an agency, given the Congressional Review Act, they can do that,
but Congress has to get up on its hind legs
and stop the rule that's coming through. The proper way
to do it is and it restores accountability to Congress,
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and the Article one restoration of power to Congress and
the authority to Congress is to have Congress approve regulations
to affirm the costly or expensive ones. So that way,
even if we don't you know that cost of regulation
is bigger than everything in the family budget except for housing.
But if we don't know exactly what it is, at
least we need to make Congress accountable for it, because
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they're the ones who we vote for. We don't get
to vote for the bureaucrats.
Speaker 12 (01:14:28):
Yeah, they make a good point.
Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
I find it kind of funny the list of people
get upset about Elon Musk because he's inelected, but they
don't send to mind the other ten thousand federal employees
that aren't saving your money but are spending your money,
and they're unelected too, and they're regulating.
Speaker 12 (01:14:44):
Your life and so forth.
Speaker 2 (01:14:45):
So it's kind of an interesting, well hypocrisy as it were.
Speaker 5 (01:14:49):
That sure is, we could tell, at least in the
case of Musk, we know who he is, and the
Biden administration nobody seems to know who what's running thing.
Speaker 12 (01:15:01):
That's a good point. That's true.
Speaker 2 (01:15:04):
As America was growing and becoming a very economic superpower,
we had smaller government, and so basically the market and
innovation and competition helped push us from a phase when
we were just thirteen insignificant colonies that did not have
you know, much money or much power to the world's
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economic superpower. So I wanted to ask you, is this
part of the reason why maybe we've seen the economy
slow down and why we see ourselves kind of in
a situation where, sure, we still have a big economy
and we're still an important part of the world economy.
But we're no longer, you know, like the American dreams
seems to be dying. And I want to ask you,
is this part of the problem.
Speaker 5 (01:15:48):
Yeah, the you know, the early America was very less
a fair you might say. I mean you obviously from
the very beginning you had those like Alexander Hamilton who
wanted an American plan with tariff protective tariffs and income
taxes and subsidies and all those sorts of things. But
now the federal government is very, very highly interventionist. I
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mean at this point, well, look what happened during COVID.
You had the Cares Act was enacted. That was trillions
of dollars. I remember Trump sitting there getting ready to
sign the Cares Act and he looks up at Mitch
McConnell and says, Mitch, this has got a tea on it.
I've never signed anything this big. It gets its too
late to turn back now, and everybody nervously laughs in
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the room in the Oval office as he signs it.
But after that, we've had this huge fusion of spending
and regulation that I think gets at what you're talking
about and slows things down. Because after the Cares Act.
Then you had the American Rescue Plan, you had the
Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, you had the Bipartisan Chips and Science Act,
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and you had the Inflation Law. And these sorts of
things are huge, huge spending bills that are already regulatory
and interventionists before the administrators and regulators later pick up
their pens. So even though I've spent my whole career
fighting over delegation, the last few years especially, and it's
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always been true though, I mean, we've had this administrative
state for one hundred years, but the last few years
have really brought it into sharp reliefs that the federal government,
that Congress itself, it's not just that Congress over delegates,
but it totally disregards its own enumerated powers. And now
everything from local tap water in Flint, Michigan, to potential
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asteroid mining and commercial spaceflight is a government business project
rather than free enterprise capitalism like we had back in
the nineteenth century, as you're talking about. So, I think
you know, the government is not a wealth creating entity.
It's a force wielding entity, and it makes things, it
slows down productivity, and it undermines the emergence of the
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things we need, like property rights evolution and airshds watersheds
and the Low Earth orbit and how we allocate drone
air space. We ought to just dump it into eighty
year old FAA air space, but we ought to develop
new kinds of property rights. And you know from your
work that matters a lot in terms of land use
and resource allocation and things like that. The more the
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federal government is involved like it is, the worse it
makes it for free enterprise capitalism to be able to
gain a foothold but also to create the wealth that
it's famous for.
Speaker 12 (01:18:27):
Yeah, that's a very very good point.
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thank you for holding through that break. We really do
appreciate your time. And before we get talking about government
regulations or maybe we can talk about how to get
rid of them, tell us a little bit about the CEI,
the Competitive Enterprise Institute. What you all do?
Speaker 5 (01:22:49):
Yeah? CEI was founded in George Orwell's year nineteen eighty four.
Our founder is Fred L. Smith, and I bear the
title of the Fellowship in his name. CEI was started
because Fred recognized the need for the importance of free enterprise,
the need for business to support free enterprise as such.
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And at that time there were a lot of groups
working on tax and budget issues, or welfare reform, or
international policy, foreign policy, not so much devoted exclusively to regulation,
and so Fred started CEI working on environmental policy. Antitrust
issues were a big, big, early issue for CEI, and
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now financial policy and the work I do antitrust issues
are still really important. A whole slate of work that
we do on environmental policy and energy policy. And my
interest has always been and still is, the general scope
of regulation, how regulation overall, across all the sectors affects
the economy and affects the public, and how we might
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roll it back. So that's what we're doing. You can
find CEI's work just very easyci dot org. Right.
Speaker 1 (01:23:58):
Hey, wait, these regulations, there have got to be some
of them that are useful. M Is this correct?
Speaker 5 (01:24:08):
Oh? Yeah, I would put it this. I put it
this way, Rick, It's not that we never have the
choice of not being regulated. The question is whether whether free,
whether competitive discipline is what makes more sense, or whether
political discipline is what makes sense. I joke. Sometimes you
know that all tainted meat was approved by the USDA
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just just because you think of a value. And the
left loves to do this. They love to think up
a value and then name a government agency about it
and then think they're the caretakers of that value. In
free enterprise, it doesn't mean you just get to run around.
I'm talking about rule of law. Doesn't mean you just
get to run around poisoning baby food bottles or doing
whatever you want to do running roughshot. In free enterprise,
(01:24:53):
you've got a lot of discipline that goes away under regulation.
Under free enterprise, you have upstream business suppliers, downstream business customers, consumers,
Wall Street advertisers, the media. All sorts of forces are
arrayed against companies that misbehave, and often what regulations do
is wipe that out and replace it with government standards
(01:25:16):
that remove from the competitive marketplaces. Remember, free enterprise isn't
just making the product or service and creating wealth there,
but it's also creating wealth in the form of the
risk management devices and innovations that emerge alongside the innovation.
So we need that in areas like AI and robotics
and new forms of energy and things like that, and
(01:25:38):
regulation can hurt that. And just a quick example of
a horrible outcome if you bought an EPA gas can lately,
if you've bet walmbarter home depot and bought a gas can,
You've got to have three hands to operate these things.
It's ridiculous, and you still gas everywhere. Imagine if you know,
just something as simple as that is screwed up by
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government agency, what they can do to the big things.
Speaker 1 (01:26:01):
Well, but then you wouldn't have all those YouTube videos
how to work around those gas casts. Hey, Wayne, this
is incredible. To trillion dollars costs of over two trillion
dollars the average cost of sixteen thousand p US Householdwayne,
that's more than I get each year on Social Security.
Can you give us I'm serious about that, I am
(01:26:24):
serious about that. Could you give us an idea of
specific ideas of regulations and what they what specifically they
would cost an individual or an individual household like the
Trader Lodge residents.
Speaker 5 (01:26:42):
Yeah, some of the worst you know, we talked earlier
about the indirect effects of regulation, and I think all
that matters a lot. But look at what just for example,
corporate average fuel economy standards potentially adding thousands of dollars
to the price of a car, or those goofy you know,
it's not just something like those goofy gas cans that
cost you more and they don't work. You'd be better
(01:27:03):
off with the milk jug. But the Department of Energy
has been aggressive with its forcing you to buy dishwashers
that don't clean. You have to hand wash the dishes
before you put them in washing machines vertical that don't
work very well and they get mildewed inside. And any
of those kinds of interventions can end up costing the public.
(01:27:24):
You end up paying more for the appliances and so forth,
and then not get just not getting a value, but
the government it's very very reluctant to roll things back.
So those are you know, those are just some good
some examples. And you know, interventions in say anti trust
can can sidestep or create distortions and inefficiencies, inefficiencies in
(01:27:46):
the economy. Regulation in the financial sector can make access
to credit more difficult things like that. But all of
those costs, you know, there's it's hard to put key
dollar amounts on them, but it's but you know they're there.
And that's that's one of the things and why it's
so important for Congress to approve this stuff and not
just let agencies run around and do it. Willie Nelly, all.
Speaker 1 (01:28:07):
Right, Wait, in this report you are quoted as saying,
the Trump administration and Congress can together can lift regulatory
burdens and achieve ambitious reforms. Talk with this about what
the president can do, what can Congress do?
Speaker 12 (01:28:24):
What can reforms?
Speaker 1 (01:28:25):
Do you recommend?
Speaker 5 (01:28:27):
Well, some quick ones. The last time we had reforms, gentlemen,
was a generation ago. It was Bill Clinton was president,
and we had Newt Gingrich in the House, and we
had all of the nation's governors and state and local.
Speaker 1 (01:28:41):
Wait, Wayne, didn't we have some reforms in Trump's first administration?
Didn't he say if we're going to go Nolly's saying
for everyone can what happened to those?
Speaker 5 (01:28:56):
Yeah, there you go. I'm talking about legislative reforms that stick.
And so we had back then, we had the Congressional
Review Act, Small Business Reform Act, Unfunded Mandates Reform Act.
Those were legislative reforms that's stuck. When Trump did his
first term, he did one D two out, and guess what.
As soon as Biden came in, he issued a series
(01:29:18):
of orders under the rubric of modernizing regulatory review, which
meant getting rid of regulatory review, and so he wiped
out Yeah, that's right, and so he wiped out Trump's
one end two out. Now Trump is doing one in
ten out, and a few and several, just a slate
of other reforms. Some of them involved DOG to the
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Department of Government Efficiency, but others don't because remember DOGE
goes away in a year, So there's got to be
things that cement this beyond. But working with Congress is important.
There's legislation to implement a permanent form of DOGE that
would do kind of what you might regard as regulatory
reduction commissions. There's legislation to force Congress to vote to
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approve major rules. There's legislation to sunset rules and regulation
so that go away unless agencies actively approve them and
put them back out for public comment. And the things
I'd mentioned to you about regulatory dark matter. There's legislation
proposed to address some of that in this environment, very
difficult for that kind of bipartisan legislation to get through,
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but we you know, potentially we could get lucky because
when there's economic downturns, you know, that makes business come
to Washington and demand reforms, no matter who they're elected
official in their particular district or state.
Speaker 1 (01:30:30):
Is wr and we really do appreciate you joining us
here in the Conservative command As you know, thank God
for groups like CEI to highlight these things to the public,
because I don't think the public totally understands all the
regulations that they're governed by. And thank god there are
people like you and the other good people at CEI
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that are keeping track of this for us. And we've
been discussing this report ten thousand man that it's the
Report on Federal Regulatory Burdens Identifies Problems or Reforms.
Speaker 5 (01:31:06):
Wayne.
Speaker 1 (01:31:07):
Where can our listeners and viewers see the entire report?
Speaker 5 (01:31:13):
Very simple, just go to CEI dot org and you
could you can search ten thousand commandments there as well
as find all of my other colleagues. Great work, all.
Speaker 1 (01:31:24):
Right, Wayne Cruise CI Competitive Enterprise Institute. Wayne, we wanna
greatly thank you for being with us today. And it
took a little bit to get together, but we did.
And I appreciate you your patience with us. And again
before you go, give out that website one more time.
Speaker 5 (01:31:43):
Yes, CEI dot org.
Speaker 1 (01:31:46):
CEI dot O RG Wayne Cruise.
Speaker 5 (01:31:49):
So much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:31:50):
Oh our pleasure, Our pleasure. Thank you so much for
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us to wrap up today's show.
Speaker 2 (01:36:08):
Well, in washing d C, they're having a rare stretch
of good news on public safety. As of today, the
city has gone twelve consecutive days without a homicide, and that, sadly,
it's not been common in many years. Normally, there are
numerous homicides every week, all of a sudden, Now we're
almost a two weeks with zero. I'm glad of that.
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That's not the sad part. The sad part is that
it didn't used to be like that, And so I
would argue it's time for folks to stop getting angry
because I hear people make stupid statements like it's racist
for Donald Trump to try to do this in DC.
It's like, really, so, reducing crime so that minorities are safer,
so they're less likely to be the victim of crime
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is racist. Okay, tell me you're stupid, without telling me
you're actually stupid, they win. They do it with ANX.
That's amazon point, right.
Speaker 1 (01:37:02):
It's interesting what he's done. He's brought in the National
Guard generally, from what I understand, maybe you could correct
me on this, George, what the National Guard is doing
is patrolling the Capitol area, the downtown Washington area. That's
letting the police go out into the neighborhood. And yeah,
and yet you've got people, like you say, calling Donald
(01:37:24):
Trump all kinds of names Hitler, Gestapo or whatever, and
he's trying to keep people safe. Interesting. Interesting, George, it
seems to be from what I understand, people from outside
of Washington there are calling him these names. People in
the city who actually live there are welcoming the fact
(01:37:47):
that their streets and the lives are a little bit safer.
Speaker 2 (01:37:50):
I think you're right This is the bottom line. Think
about it. How crazy liberal would you have to be
to live in a city where you're worried about your
kids being harmed and you know other things like that,
and you're worried about just walking outside your house in
the evening as fear that you might be the victim
of a horrible crime. And then a guy fixes that.
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But he didn't happen to be from your party, but
he fixes that and things are looking much better. How
liberal and stupid you have to be to act like, well,
he's not my party. So I'm really upset about this.
I don't want to live in a safer city. I
want my children to continue to be at risk. I
want to continue to be at risk because I'm a partisan.
It's like, really, that is unbelievable because I think generally speaking,
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people tend to vote based on realities that they're facing.
An example, b we sometimes say voters vote based on
their pocketbook, but that is a statement. Is is that if
the economy is crashing and they're struggling, that makes them
a little unhappy with what's going on, and they'll vote differently.
They won't be like, well, yeah, Joe Biden crashed the economy.
But I'm okay with that because I voted for him
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and I like him. You know WHOA It's like, no,
people didn't do that, won't do that, least not intelligent people.
Stupid people may still do it. But the reality is
you're living in DC and the city is becoming safer,
and therefore your children and your wife and your friends
and things like that are not at risk any longer,
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or the risk is now much lower. I mean, I realized.
I guess we're all technically at risk in the sense
that there's no way to be guaranteed there's zero crime,
but there's a lot less crime, and there's been zero murders,
And I'm thinking to myself, people have to be happy
with that, because who wants to be killed?
Speaker 1 (01:39:33):
Who wants to be killed? Who wants to be robbed?
Who wants to be cardchecked? Who wants to be raped?
I mean, And if there's somebody that can make you
your street, your neighborhood, your city stay safer, and it's
being proved that he is making it safer, I would
say that's a very good thing. George, we had a
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couple of great guests today. Would you thanct him for us. Please.
Speaker 2 (01:39:57):
Absolutely, I'd be very happy to do that because we
always great guests and today was no different. But we
shouldn't say just because we always have great guests, the
fact that we had great guests is unimportant. It's always great.
And we start off with Jim Simpson. He of course
investigative journalist, economist, and former you know, looks through the
budget carefully when he was with the Office of Management
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Budget and we talked about his book The Manufactured Crisis,
The War to End America, and how the left has
worked very hard to create a welfare state, to create
a system that allows the registration of people who ought
not be registering to vote and aren't entitled to vote,
and that would make it so that it was easier
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to commit voter fraud, all of these things. It's very
interesting that they started with this stuff a long time ago.
A lot of it seems like it just happened in
the last ten years. But he points out that a
lot of the foundations for these movements and these things
started in the sixties because there were people were talking
about and were looking for creating these methodologies to do this.
Speaker 1 (01:41:04):
I think it's the Democrat Party. Are experts out at
Georgia manufacturing crisis. You know, saw Alynsky isn't when it says,
don't let a crisis a good waste.
Speaker 5 (01:41:16):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (01:41:16):
Well, also mister Obama's chief of staff guy said that too. Yeah,
this is kind of interesting. The left feels like, yeah,
we want to create emergencies and crises so that we
can use them for our political benefit.
Speaker 1 (01:41:32):
Manuel's Manuel. He's another one of those Democrats that thinks
he is suited to be president.
Speaker 2 (01:41:41):
Yeah, and if America thinks he suits to be president,
then America's basically creating its own dilemma, as they did
when they elected mister Biden for example. It just was
a very heavily cost that cost America on every level,
not just money, safety, all kinds of things, national secure
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and so. Yeah. But we also had Wayne Cruz and he,
of course is with the Competitive Enterprise Institute, and there
he works on the government regulation and how it impacts
free enterprise and how it impacts Americans in terms of
the costs of it, because you know, like if they
increase your sales tax or if they increase your income tax,
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you know how much they've increased it. Because when you
pay your taxes, you can either look at your receipt
or you can look at your tax return and realize, oh, wow,
this is what I had to pay. But the beauty
for the left of regulatory costs are, for example, if
your electric bill goes up by thirty percent, you don't
really know did the electric bill go up because the
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electric company's ripping me off or was it a regulatory cost?
And so it's a way for them to hide who's
responsible and what they're doing, and so they're very happy
to impose incredible cost of the things he talked about
was there's sixteen thousand dollars per family in America costs
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imposed by the regulatory regime. And at some point it's like, wow,
can you imagine that what kind of a pay raise
that would be? What would like, how did the average
American feel if what we said was starting tomorrow, your
pay goes up by sixteen thousand dollars, that'd be a
great day.
Speaker 1 (01:43:24):
Sure, wo, George, I bet that half Americans and Social
Security are getting less than sixteen hundred dollars a month,
all right, So that's less. So you figure that that's
just a little bit more than sixteen thousand a year.
You know, that's that's real, a real ripoff. Hate Georg's
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your book.
Speaker 2 (01:43:46):
Oh sure, yeah, let freedom ring again.
Speaker 12 (01:43:51):
The idea there.
Speaker 2 (01:43:52):
Is that freedom is what has made America great, and
it's what's what has made America a superpower can militarily, culturally,
it's why the rest of the world looks at America
with a certain level of, if you will, jealousy.
Speaker 12 (01:44:11):
And so that's the idea.
Speaker 2 (01:44:13):
Let's get more of that in our system, and let's
defend liberty, and let's make sure that we focus on that.
So that's the book. You can get it at anyway
you buy books, but like Amazon, Barnes, and Noble, you
can also just go to f F dot org. The
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And when you click on that link, it will take
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you to both a description of the book with chapter
headings and quotes by people like for example, Rand Paul
and Horace Cooper and other friends who've read the book
and said some very nice things about it. And then
on top of that, it then has all the different
links where you can buy it.
Speaker 1 (01:44:51):
All right, j Roshia want to thank you for sitting
in today as my co host. But for right now
we are out of time. That means we go run
and you gotta go take care of Godless, and we're
going to see it tomorrow.
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