7-30-25 Conservative Commandos: " TOPICS: New York Times admits using misleading cover photo of emaciated Gaza child
The New York Times was accused of "journalistic malpractice" on Tuesday after admitting an emaciated child displayed on the front page as evidence of famine in Gaza was actually suffering from a grim preexisting condition unrelated to the conflict with Israel. The ordeal began Friday when a grim image of a malnourished infant was splashed across the Times’ front page with the somber headline, "Young, Old and Sick Starve to Death in Gaza: ‘There Is Nothing.’"
The photo’s caption noted the boy was "born healthy," and the accompanying story about the hunger crisis in Gaza reaching "new and astonishing levels of desperation" focused on Palestinians dying from starvation. Among them was Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, an 18-month-old whose father was "killed last October when he went out to seek food," according to the Times.
Social media users quickly noticed that Mohammed was the same boy who had previously been featured by other media outlets because he was living in Gaza with a significant preexisting disorder, a fact that was not mentioned in the Times’ viral front-page story. After ignoring requests for comment for multiple days, the Times finally addressed the major omission on Tuesday with an editors’ note. The admission was buried underneath the lengthy story that had already circulated for more than four days and critics didn’t believe enough remorse was expressed by the newspaper.
"If you read carefully, this is an admission of a remarkable deception. They ran a story about malnutrition but didn't include the context that the malnutrition is not caused by a lack of food, but by a pre-existing condition, a disease that affects the child's ability to thrive," Rubenstein reacted on X. "I.e. in effect, they buried the actual story of the child's malnutrition to tell a different story of the malnutrition. Why? You can answer that," Rubenstein continued. "And -- it should be noted: If the original story was fit to print on the front page of the paper, so is the updated one with a clear editors' note."
"Children in Gaza are malnourished and starving, as New York Times reporters and others have documented. We recently ran a story about Gaza’s most vulnerable civilians, including Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, who is about 18 months old and suffers from severe malnutrition. We have since learned new information, including from the hospital that treated him and his medical records, and have updated our story to add context about his pre-existing health problems," Times spokesperson Nicole Taylor said.
"This additional detail gives readers a greater understanding of his situation," Taylor continued. "Our reporters and photographers continue to report from Gaza, bravely, sensitively, and at personal risk, so that readers can see firsthand the consequences of the war."
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The New York Times was accused of "journalistic malpractice" on Tuesday after admitting an emaciated child displayed on the front page as evidence of famine in Gaza was actually suffering from a grim preexisting condition unrelated to the conflict with Israel. The ordeal began Friday when a grim image of a malnourished infant was splashed across the Times’ front page with the somber headline, "Young, Old and Sick Starve to Death in Gaza: ‘There Is Nothing.’"
The photo’s caption noted the boy was "born healthy," and the accompanying story about the hunger crisis in Gaza reaching "new and astonishing levels of desperation" focused on Palestinians dying from starvation. Among them was Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, an 18-month-old whose father was "killed last October when he went out to seek food," according to the Times.
Social media users quickly noticed that Mohammed was the same boy who had previously been featured by other media outlets because he was living in Gaza with a significant preexisting disorder, a fact that was not mentioned in the Times’ viral front-page story. After ignoring requests for comment for multiple days, the Times finally addressed the major omission on Tuesday with an editors’ note. The admission was buried underneath the lengthy story that had already circulated for more than four days and critics didn’t believe enough remorse was expressed by the newspaper.
"If you read carefully, this is an admission of a remarkable deception. They ran a story about malnutrition but didn't include the context that the malnutrition is not caused by a lack of food, but by a pre-existing condition, a disease that affects the child's ability to thrive," Rubenstein reacted on X. "I.e. in effect, they buried the actual story of the child's malnutrition to tell a different story of the malnutrition. Why? You can answer that," Rubenstein continued. "And -- it should be noted: If the original story was fit to print on the front page of the paper, so is the updated one with a clear editors' note."
"Children in Gaza are malnourished and starving, as New York Times reporters and others have documented. We recently ran a story about Gaza’s most vulnerable civilians, including Mohammed Zakaria al-Mutawaq, who is about 18 months old and suffers from severe malnutrition. We have since learned new information, including from the hospital that treated him and his medical records, and have updated our story to add context about his pre-existing health problems," Times spokesperson Nicole Taylor said.
"This additional detail gives readers a greater understanding of his situation," Taylor continued. "Our reporters and photographers continue to report from Gaza, bravely, sensitively, and at personal risk, so that readers can see firsthand the consequences of the war."
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Speaker 1 (00:20):
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(00:42):
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as she does a couple of times a week, is
Sharon Engel from the Battleground State, the battleborn State, the
Silver State of Nevada. And Sharon, welcome back to Conservative Commandos.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thanks Rick, always great to be here. Yesterday we talked
a bit about the media and how they lie.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh I thought we were going to talk about Oh
got just side joke here.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Just a side joke. So we're so, I'm which.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Is okay, we can if we want, I mean, we
can talk about anything. So if we want to talk
about the guy that hung himself, we can do that.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay, Well, I want to first talk about the New
York Times putting out false news about Israel. And I
think that you know, this Israel law, the Epstein lie,
the Russia Gate lie. We should be used to it, right,
(02:05):
but we fall for it every time. It seems like
the New York Times showed a picture of a starving
Gaza child, and everybody then thinks, including the President, maybe
there's some starvation going on over there. And so Israel
(02:25):
is now backed up trying to refute this story because
they have been putting aid in their daily aid in
the Gaza. And the truth of the matter is that
this little boy, possibly Palestinian, we don't know exactly, but
(02:48):
this little Gaza toddler that they the New York Times
went out and put out there, it went viral. This
boy's name is Mohammed's Korea al Matawak.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
He's good on you for that week, kid, I'm impressed.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He's around eighteen months old and he looks awful, right,
He's very he's starved. But the problem is that this
child is not starving because of Israel's war with Hamas.
(03:30):
He has a medical problem. And the diagnosis of this
boy's condition then has caused him to have to go
to the hospital and be treated for it has nothing
to do with that starvation. He's suffering from cerebral palsy,
(03:53):
hypoxemia and a genetic disorder, so similar to my band,
and these pre existing health conditions are what is causing
him to look so awful. But here's the good side
of the life. So of course the New York Times
(04:14):
picks u up, puts it out there virally that this
is Israel's inhumane blockade and this is the heartbreaking evidence.
Well the evidence is not really evidence, But the good
side of it is that this child has been brought
to people's attention and now we'll get some help. So
(04:36):
that's the good side.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And I bet that help will come in Israel. I
wouldn't be a bit something, Sharon that that help doesn't
come from Israel, that that child ends up in an
Israeli hospital. That's just something I'm saying off the top
of my head. But that will not surprise me. Well,
and it doesn't surprise me about the New York Times
(05:00):
publishing fake news either, right, That's why I think that's
why they got sued by Donald Trump and one and
lost fifteen million dollars to Donald Trump, fake news.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Fake news. And and here I thought this was just classic.
Someone posted them. Well, well, well, everyone with a brain
in their head knew this was fake. But the New
York Times, nobody in Gaza is starving except for the hostages,
remember them.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, so you know, he.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He nailed it. Remember that there are hostages being treated terribly.
They shouldn't even be hostages. That we've forgotten what that
war started with, which was this inhumane treatment of people,
an attack where they stole people out of Israel. They've
(05:54):
been keeping them now for almost two years. And those
are the people that are coming back, and they look
terrible because of the conditions that they've been kept in.
And yes, and there's still twenty of them that are alive.
They feel like they are alive. And nobody's talking about it,
(06:16):
right except for Israel. Israel is trying to make a deal,
one final deal with AMAS to release these prisoners, these
ones that are truly and big trouble. And does the
New York Times carry that?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Does any of the media over here carry that? No?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And it's it's frustrating to say the least. But I
thought that it was worth following up on just a
little bit to say, don't believe it. That's why you're
tuned in here to au N TV network and two
conservative commandos is because you don't believe it. But tell
(07:02):
your friends don't believe that stuff. It really is angering
to hear the buy in though. You know, whole denominations
of Christians have bought into this, and it's it's just
amazing to me. Where are they getting their news? Well,
(07:25):
it has to be from this fake news media, from
the lame stream mainstream, and you know, Trump fights back.
He has really gone after some of these reporters for
what they are reporting, and in fact, he just hammered
(07:46):
one of the Foxes. You know Fox News people ask
me all the time, how come you don't have people
from the other side on conservative commandos. Why don't you
do that? And you can answer Rick, but I just
wanted to say this Fox News contributor, Jessica Tarlave is
(08:06):
from the other side, so of course she's going to
be anti Trump, and Trump just called her a real loser,
and then he named a few more and of course
then the backside of this is, well, it's all Trump's
fault that people like Stephen Colbert don't have a job anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Really.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Trump put that one away too. He says, no, having
been in showbiz and television, it's very simple, he said,
if you get the ratings, you can say or do
anything and stay on the air. If you don't, you
will always become a victim. Colbert made himself a victim
because of what he said, and he says, you know
(08:53):
that will happen. His ratings went down. He doesn't have
a job anymore, so he said, but the real reason
he was fired was because he's got It was a
pure lack of talent. So you know, we're just Harkens
is back to Trump's television show where he used to say,
you're fired.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, Sharon, I think as a I won't say it
doesn't have anything to do with lack of talent. What
it has to do with this lack of audience? Yes,
I mean that show was that show was losing forty
million dollars a year. I mean forty million dollars a year.
Now what network is that show? And I don't even
(09:37):
know is this CBS? Such?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh oh, Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, that's one CBS? Is it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Let me see?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, whatever it is, whatever it is, that is that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Network is in business, CBS.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That business is in business. That network is in business
to make money, to make money. And when you've got
a show that's losing forty million dollars a year, guess
what chances are it's going to get acts. Now, let
me tell you something about that network. It's owned by shareholders.
(10:12):
It's owned by stockholders who own that network. And if that,
if the management of that network is losing that kind
of money, rest is sure the stockholders are going to
fire the management of that network. Okay, that's that's what
(10:33):
has to do it. As far as us not bringing
in the other side, you want the other side, go
to ABC, NBCCBS, CNN. I mean you, there's plenty of
places you can go for the other side, not a
whole lot of places you can go for our side.
That's why we don't have the other side. On another reason.
(10:54):
When you have the other side on what happens It
gets to be a big argument. Everybody talks over each other,
and you don't hear a damn thing. You don't learn
a damn thing. So other than the excitement of g
look they're fighting, you don't learn anything. You don't hear
a thing. So that's why we don't have the other
(11:15):
side on there. Let's talk about Gaza for a minute.
Let's talk about the hostages that have come back. They're
kind of on orders not to say a lot about
the treatment, but what has gotten out. They were horribly treated,
horribly treated, kept isolated, beaten, raped, tortured, horribly treated. They said,
(11:43):
not a single person that they dealt with over there
treated them decently. Not a single one of them treated
them decently. They are the people that elected Hamas as
their government, the people that are keeping Hamas in government there. Sharon,
(12:05):
I'm sorry, I don't see any innocent people there in Gaza.
You know what they can do. They can get out
of Gaza. They can get out of Gaza. They can
go to Egypt, they can go to Jordan, they can
even go to Israel. All right, they don't have to
stay in Gaza. They allow themselves to be used as
(12:27):
hostages themselves by Gaza. Whenever the Israelis attack, they announced.
I think it's a mistake, but they announced, but they're
going to attack. And you know what Gaza does, moves
civilians into that area. They allow themselves to be used. Now, Sharon,
I don't know about you. But if I was in
(12:49):
a war zone, guess what I would do whatever I
could to get out.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Hey, well, in a war zone, man, that's exactly what
I did.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yes, you worries out here first plane that you could
get out, And that was an interesting story about you
getting out of Israel after October seventh. But even in Germany,
even in Germany and World War Two, as Germany was
being invaded on the east by the Russians and on
(13:18):
the west by the Allies, the people that were in
the war zone, especially in the eastern parts of Germany,
escaped to the west because they wanted to get away
from the Russians. They knew they would get a lot
better treatment from the Allies than they would from the Russians.
And when the Russians went into say, Berlin, there was
an awful lot of horrible things that happened, rapes, murderers,
(13:43):
it was terrible. The Russians treated the Germans horribly. You
know why the Germans treated the Russians harbly when they
invaded Russia. So it was tit for a tent And
I'm not saying that they didn't they deserved it or
didn't deserve it, But same thing here in Gaza, Sharon,
(14:07):
they are horrible people there. It's a war. Horrible things
happen in a war. Yes, this child, this child that
we're seeing thanks to the lion stinking New York Slimes,
as Mark Levin calls it all. It's all it is
proving is the New York Times doesn't investigate anymore. What
(14:32):
they do. They just take the the propaganda that's coming
out of Gaza and putting it up and say these
are the facts. You know what the facts are. The
New York Times is the New York Slimes. Without Sharon,
we do need to go to a break. And you
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we going in our conversations today?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, not to that, I'm not good. No, I wanted
to go to r f K for Robert Robert F. Kennedy.
He's he's now going through and and he's wants to
put a drug that's actually available in mini markets gas
(18:48):
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the de A. It's UH number seven high droxy. My guyning,
I'm hoping that's how it is, seven dash eight it's
(19:09):
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and it's an opioids. What it is, but it is
found in a substance called Creighton that's being sold across
the country and drinks, gummies, and powders, but mostly in
(19:32):
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an MU receptor. I'm just depending on our audience for
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(19:57):
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Wow. Yeah, that's on the market.
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(20:32):
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(20:54):
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(21:16):
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those places where uh, marijuana is legal and where it's
(21:37):
not and people have gone to vaping. It's sold there
and so it's a it's a drug that they're vaping
that is for chronic pain.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And so this this product is c R E A
t I n E k r A T crate. Because
I'm just trying to figure out, what's this thing.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
A R A T O M is kraton, but what's
in it. It's not the kraton that Kennedy is objecting to.
It's what's in it. And he's just and it's uh,
this drug is uh, they it's got a huge name,
(22:24):
but they call it seven h H. So it's a hydroxy.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
C R A c R A t k R A
k R A t U O M. It's a Creighton polymeers
offered me many of the properties of synthetic rubber. It's
a synthetic replacement for rubber.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So probably shouldn't be putting it in your body.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
They're not going after cratom. They're they're going after this
drug that's within the krative byproduct. But what he's saying is.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That now I'm seeing something else. I'm saying that it's
a it's an herbal substance that is that has the
stimulant and not opioate like effect. Craton stimulant effects include alertness,
rapid harb it. So it's almost sounds like one of
(23:31):
those uh power drugs five hour, five hour, you know
it's that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Well, they they it says. Young people and veterans and
people who suffer from chronic pain or addiction are the
ones that take it. But they think that it's a
safe alternative, and he says it's not. It's not.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, first of all, I'm suspicious of all drugs. I
think that we Americans are over medicated, and you know,
you turn on TV and you can't go a half
an hour without seeing two or three or four different
drugs advertised for everything from itchy skin to weight loss
(24:21):
to going to the bathroom better. I mean, there's just
all kinds of stuff being advertised, and they all say,
ask your doctor if this drug is right for you.
So we're over medicated. Is that the reason that we
are suffering more cancers today, or more depression today, or
(24:43):
more obesity today. I have no idea. I have no idea,
but I think that the American public has taken too
many drugs. Do we need all these drugs? I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, that's what Robert Kennedy is saying, and actually is
following up on some things that are science that are
science right. And the MAO Clinic is saying creatim itself,
don't take it. It says it's a supplement that claims
to boost energy, mood, and pain relief, but it has
(25:18):
many safety issues and questions about its effectiveness. So MAO
Clinic is saying that don't take it, says unsafe and ineffective.
But here you go right on down and it's available
Kraton supplement on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You want to hear some of the side effects from
this sedation nausea, sweating, dry mouth, increase, urination, loss of appetite, itching, constipation, dizziness, confusion.
Case reports also described the following side effects addiction, withdraw
(25:57):
I can't pronounce that, liver injury, aching muscles and bones,
and jerky limb movements. I mean, there's a lot of
side of it, you know, Sharon, I say it all
the time. Every drug has side effects. Every drug has
side effects, and then you're taking medicines for the side
effects of medicine. Then you're taking more medicines for side effects.
(26:20):
You know this, This sounds like a bad a bad day. Nausea, sweating,
dry mouth, increase your nation, loss of appetite, eaching, constipation, dizziness,
and confusion. Sharon, that's a bad day.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
So now, well, now you have to ask the question
why is this out there just available to order or
to walk into a vape shop and get why is
it that it hasn't that the FDA didn't put it
(26:56):
on that list before. A professor professor of medical chemistry
at University of Florida says that creatium itself is like
a light beer in terms of potency. Really, that's that's
not what you were reading and no, possibly is that
(27:19):
the seven eight. Well, once it's extracted from Creton, it
becomes closer to it becomes closer to this light beer.
But as long as it's in that kratim that that
he says it's more more potent than morphine.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Well, get this, Sharon. This was in I'm reading this,
and it says in November twenty seventeen. In February twenty eighteen,
the FDA issued a public health advisory about the deadly
risks associated There have been at least forty four reported
(28:05):
reports of cranium related deaths, sometimes used in combination with
other illicit drugs, prescription drugs or over the counter A agents.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean, wow, wow, Okay, So here's here's the pushback.
Jeff Smith, national policy director of the Holistic Alternative Recovery
Trust Trade Association, said that there's no evidence that was
(28:40):
prevented at the press conference when they said this should
be taken off the anybody can get it without a
prescription market. And then he says there's not been a
single study and not one data points specific to this
seven dash old age. But I thought Mayo Clinic was
(29:01):
pretty specific. You know, I kind of trust their science
and their studies. So maybe not that day. Mayo didn't
show up that day. But that's kind of splitting hairs again,
isn't it. And it gives indeed, it gives people the
idea that once again there's no evidence, so it must
(29:24):
be safe. No, I think you know what we've got
here is is someone that's trying to protect a business. Right,
you take this off the market, then what happens to
the vape stores and the smoke shops and those people
(29:45):
that are dealing in this, even Amazon, maybe they you know,
maybe they'll have a dog in this fight as well,
because there's people making money with it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And so what are the benefits of this? And we're
going to have to go to break in a moment here,
Sharon uh. Similar effects manifests is increased alertness, boost physical energy, talkativeness,
and a more social behavior. Higher dose is the opioid
(30:15):
and CNS suppression effects predominate. So what are you getting
out of it? Nothing more than you would, I think
from a couple of good cups of tea.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Well, here's here's what Mac Haddo, a spokesman for the
American Creative Association. So this is then that's making it
and he says that it should be on that list.
He said they're prepared to deal with the the the pushback,
(30:51):
but he says, we do not believe these products should
be available over the counter.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Unrel unrel Just run a cup of coffee here, some
iced tea or something like that, and you'll get the
same effects. Talkativeness. You can see talkativeness right here. Increase synergy.
Like guess I have a cup of tea, go to
a break and you are listening to and watching conservative commandos.
I'm Rick trading my cousins, Sharon Angle, We'll be right.
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this segment. Moving on Charm, what do you hear?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, you know we've been waiting. We've been waiting. I've
been waiting to see if justice will be served, and
we're finding out that the people in Biden's cabinet, the
ones that he appointed to these jobs, were guilty. It's
(34:31):
not just Obama. It starts with Obama, but all the
way down the line, we've got some guilty folks. And
this latest one is Pete Buddha, judge who ignored engineers
who warned the dangers of constructing wind turbines near rail
roads and highways. So here we go, and they're now
(34:58):
finding out that that he knew stuff, but he didn't
act on what he knew. He instead just glossed over it.
And why do you do that? Because of climate change?
Because of that religious fervency that the Biden administration has
(35:21):
for climate change, they're they're willing to do anything to
get their things done. So they have pushed one hundred
and forty win projects. Uh and and they didn't do
anything about the safetory reviews here.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
What was the problem of putting them near highways or railroads.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Well, their little roads fly off.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Well, so are like four hundred feet.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Long, right, and so they don't They just don't want
them around. But for that purpose. But the other thing
is that they interfere with telecommunications. They they warned that
one Illinois project that the turbines were within one to
(36:18):
three miles of rail lines could pose an undue risk
to train communications. So they that thing is a they're
a hazard that way. So there's lots of stuff going
on here with these wind urmins that Pete Boudage just
just said, no problem here, don't worry about it, don't
(36:41):
make a study into it, don't look at it too close.
They you know, they even this is what kind of
smacks of whatever I just read you with the Commerce
Department National Telegram Communications said about an undue risk train
(37:03):
communication as well. Uh, it was withdrawn then without any explanation.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
What was withdrawn this report?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Their report there, their uh, their warning, they withdrew it.
So they got some orders from headquarters. It sounds like
and they said, Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
It didn't fit the narrative, sharing didn't fit the agenda,
didn't fit the agenda. Well, Sharon, for years we've been
talking about wind and solar that it's impractical, it's a
it's a solution that doesn't work for a problem that
doesn't exist. We have all kinds of energy here in
(37:51):
this country, gas, oil, oh, nuclear, So it's not like
we need the energy. They the left just don't like
that energy it does. They don't like the the fossil
fuel energies. And you know when you look at I
used to Mary and I used to go and have
(38:14):
pizza at this park in Summer's Point, New Jersey, that
was very near the Beasley Point power Plant, which was
a cold fire plant. It was right across the ag
Carper River from this place, Kennedy Park and Summer's Point,
(38:36):
and we used to really really nice place to go.
Sharon and Mary and I would stop at one of
our favorite pizza shops and get a pizza and go
down there. And on the banks of the Great Bay
that is fed by the a Carper River, used to
have our pizza there. As I said, right across the
(38:57):
river was the Beasley Point power Plant coal fire plant.
There was ever any it didn't smell, there was no smoke.
It was clean burning. However, the state of New Jersey
pushing this green energy garbage very very much the way
the Obama administration, the Obiden administration, the left is they
(39:23):
tore down this power plant along with six or seven
other power plants. They shut down the Oyster Creek Nuclear
power plant. Now what has happened is New Jersey has
to buy almost half of its energy from neighboring states. Okay,
(39:47):
now because of that, you know what they did. They
raised the rates by forty one percent for electricity. Why
they do that, Well, we don't have enough energy. Yes,
the reason being is they shut down these plants. You
know what was supposed to replace it, windmills out at sea.
(40:10):
Now you're traveling all the way from Kansas or in
your case, Rita Nevada. You want to see the Atlantic Ocean? Well,
what are those things out there?
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Windmills?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Do you want to see the ocean, the beaches, the birds,
or do you want to see windmills? Again? I used
to say all the time, what's going to happen the
first hurricane Sandy that rips up the East coast and
destroys all those windmills. Guess what where are we going
to get our electric? Then we'll have to buy even
more from neighboring states. It's so it's a solution that
(40:45):
didn't work for a problem that does not exist, and
it's all to push their agenda. Who benefits? Who benefits?
Why the Chinese do? Why do the Chinese benefit? That's
where all the stupid wind products are made, the generators,
(41:05):
the props, the propellers, that's where all that garbage is made.
Isful life about ten to fifteen years. Then all that
is junk and it can't be recycled. Say, have these
massive rotor blades look like a propeller, These massive rotor
(41:29):
blades that they have to store somewhere, I have to
store somewhere. Solar don't work. They're tearing down massive amounts
of trees and forests and farms to put up these
stupid solar farms that look idious, that don't give you
enough energy, doesn't give you enough energy. The energy that
(41:52):
it does give you is overpriced and subsidized. It's just
the vicious cycle of stupid. My gosh, Sharon, where's the
time going. We're having fun?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Don't know, But I want to just give a shout
out to Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, who's now investigating this stuff,
has brought it up and is going to look into
making sure that these turbines are not built at least
one point two miles from critical infrastructure. So at least
(42:27):
he's on it. He's seen what Buddha Judge did with
his neglect, and it's more than just neglect.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Why don't Sean Duffy and Donald Trump say no more,
We're not going to build anymore. We're putting a more
toward him on any construction of these things that's off
the problem. Hopefully that's what Donald Trump and Sean Duffy's
going to do. No more weeks on windmills.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Well, I just wanted to follow up on Pete Boodha Judge,
but in another vein he's going to run for president.
So we always wondered what who the other side was
going to pull out of their had for the twenty
twenty eight run, and he's he's going to put himself
(43:15):
up for that. He at recent polling showed him as
a top contender for the Democrat nomination. He trails Harris,
who has the thirty five point one, so he doesn't
even have that one. But they said she's unlikely to
run again. But he's already head of Gavin Newsom and
(43:37):
Alexandria Ocasio Cortes. So that's who they got, Kamala Harris,
Pete booted Judge, Gavin Newsom and aoc.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Bring them on, Bring them one, bring one whoever the Democrats.
I mean, seriously, it's like being the best player on
the last place team and you're not even you wouldn't
even be a good player and a really good team.
All right, What is his qualifications? He doesn't have any.
I'm looking him up. Now. What did he ever do?
(44:11):
I mean, did he ever have a job? I don't know,
I mean, did he ever have a job? Graduate of
Harvard University, University of Oxford, later attended as a Rhodes Scholar,
work for management consulting firm. Uh, he was an intelligence
officer in the Navy Reserve.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Well, here's what Tom, Senator Tom Cotton says. He says,
Pete Booty Judge couldn't organize a one car funeral.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Well, that's that's that's that's.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
That's what he's saying about his his qualifications for the
role of transportation segrad Cheron.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Can I let me ask you this. Do you know
who James Muller is?
Speaker 8 (44:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Do you know who Steve Lukak is?
Speaker 11 (45:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
L u c k e. Well, they are the mayors
in his office before and afterwards. Marriage you know who
those guys are. No, you don't know, probably because they're
not gay. They're not they we're not giving the job
as Transpartery Secretary Transportation secretary because they were gay. That's
(45:27):
why you don't know about these guys. Unbelievable, unbelievable, Mary P. Mayor,
p Mayor, Mary Py. I just want to I want
to look, Wow, a lot of footnotes here. I just
(45:48):
want to tell a writing before we do go into
the break, how many votes you got in this last election,
Like I said, it was a little over eight thousand.
Let me see what says here mayor the South Bend
(46:13):
mayoral election of twenty fifteen, he got a total of
eight thousand, five hundred and fifteen votes. That was the
total he got, all right. There were only ten thousand people,
ten thousand, five hundred and eighty nine people that cast
a vote in that election, and he got eight thousand,
five hundred and fifteen. The Republican got two thousand and
(46:36):
seventy four. So that tells you a lot about South Bend, Indiana,
doesn't it. Okay, Oh my god. In fact, he got
less votes he received left, No, he got two hundred
more votes of the second time he ran then the
first five eight thousand, five hundred and fifteen votes. That's
(46:59):
how many votes he got, and he thinks he's qualified
to be president of the United States. Sharon, we do
need to take a break, whine, because on the other
side of the break, we will be playing some of
the best of the interviews that we have done here
on the Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angle. I'm Rick Draider,
(47:19):
and we'll be back with those interviews right after this break. Okay. So, Sharon,
I have not been real successful in our fundraising effort. Okay,
So we need you to do two things for me.
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If you need you to pray a little harder, okay,
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And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commando's radio
show with Sharon Engel and you're Shirley Rick Drader coming
to you from the My Pila Studios and my store
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guest of the day is with us and take it away.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Well, it's my pleasure to introduce Lance LaRusso, who is
leading attorney, founder of Blue Line Lawyer Institute, the twenty
twenty one National Fraternal Order of Police Attorney of the Year,
and author of When Copskill and Blue News. Lance has
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(49:47):
outlets nationwide for his expertise. Lance, welcome back to the
Conservative Commando's radio show.
Speaker 11 (49:54):
Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Well, it's our pleasure, Lance, and it's really our pleasure
now that we're on the other side of this election,
because we've all been wondering what what's going to happen
if the other side won and they got their way
with the defund the police movement, which that seemed like
for the last four years that was really being pressed hard.
(50:22):
Tell us this side, now, how do you feel about
what happened in this election and how is law enforcement
taking it.
Speaker 11 (50:31):
Yeah, it's a really interesting point because right after the election,
and keep in mind Donald Trump's not going to be
sworn in for some time now, but we immediately have
seen people openly backing up on the defund the police movement,
which I have classified as the fastest conceived, implemented, and
failed social policy in United States history. It doesn't work.
(50:53):
Law enforcement knew it wasn't going to work. They were
the ones that told people, you're going to put vulnerable
community even more and more vulnerable positions, and the less
of us that are available, the less we can protect them.
So now you're starting to see the refund the police
movement the well, maybe we made a mistake, and fortunately
(51:16):
law enforcement still stepping up and taking care of taking
care of the communities.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Well, that's a sigh of relief on Ourian, I'm sure, Lencea.
I am relieved because we need these guys, and this
is crazy to think that a community can go without. However,
it seems like the law itself is undermining police authority.
(51:45):
You know, I'm thinking of the crazy law and we
have it here too that if your loss is less
than one thousand dollars, there's no prosecution.
Speaker 11 (51:55):
Yeah, you know, and it's it's absolutely ridiculous. And I
knew that Rick would have his make America Great hat
on again, so I wanted to share my at with
you serve others live without fear. If we're talking about
law enforcement, you know that's basically what they're doing every day.
And when you bring this arrest people only if they
commit a crime under over one thousand dollars. It is
an arbitrary number. It is SoundBite fodder, is all it is.
(52:22):
Law enforcement officers are responding to these crimes. And what's
really interesting is people talk about property crimes. Well, imagine
you're a twenty year old who is working in a
big box store and there's swarms of people coming in
and robbing the store, and they're doing it from the
presence of people. It's not just shoplifting. This is organized
retail theft. The people that work in those stores are
(52:45):
not going to have jobs if the bottom line gets
to a point where they have to move out. And
that was a claim to be a figment of the
imagination of people like me who said it was coming.
But we've seen it. We've seen communities with a big
box store. Pharmacies have had to leave, they can't afford
to work there anymore, and all those jobs went with them.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
It's even kind of interesting when the store hasn't left,
how they have tightened things up just to make sure
that nobody walks out with anything. You know, there's in
the cosmetic department of Walmart, for instance, you can't buy
nail polish anymore without an attendant coming, getting a key,
(53:29):
getting what you want, and she takes it and rings
it up for you, so there's no theft going on there.
The other thing is that, you know, you point out
the security in these stores, they're not they're not living
without fear. My daughter in a small town fell in Nevada,
(53:51):
she went into Walmart to buy some diapers one evening
about ten o'clock. Some guys in hoodies came in, took
out two basketful of groceries and different things, and security
didn't stop them. And she says, aren't you gonna do
something about what just happened here? They didn't, you know,
(54:13):
they didn't check out, And he said, it's not worth
my life.
Speaker 10 (54:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (54:18):
And that's an interesting point because when we talk about
law enforcement, and you mentioned the arrests, every arrest a
law enforcement makes is an extremely dangerous thing to do.
It doesn't matter whether it's a misdemeanor, a felony, a
dui arrest, an arm robber on a warrant. They're all dangerous.
We've had over three hundred and five officers shot in
the line of duty so far this year, and we've
(54:40):
had dozens ambushed. So it's almost like a recognition. It's
celebrating lawlessness. Okay, we're gonna let this kind of lawlessness
go unrecognized, and we're going to ignore some of this
some of this stuff. But what they don't recognize is
when people are a and that's where I think we
(55:01):
saw this voting out of some of the das who
have been soft on crime. When people are afraid, when
they can't go to the grocery store, when they can't
go to their office without fear, they are having an
impingement on their freedom. So when a law enforcement officer
is there and you know you're not going to be
a victim of a crime, you are more free to
(55:23):
go about your business. And I think what you saw
in this last election was a backlash. We want to
be able to walk around in a free society without
being afraid of becoming a crime.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Vacim free society. But we have these laws. I'm going
to kind of circle back there. How can lawmakers they
should be this should be a heads up. I would
think this mandate that we have to get back to
law in order, if you will, how can lawmakers structure
(55:56):
the law to be more police friendly? How can we
pressure our representatives to do something that actually gives us
more freedom? As you put out, well, I.
Speaker 11 (56:07):
Think one of the first things they can do is
to recognize that law enforcement agencies cannot be the sole
source of recruiting. So if you have a three hundred
person law enforcement agency, which is huge in the United States,
they may have three or four people devoted to recruiting.
So the communities need to be supported in their efforts
(56:28):
to go find the best and the brightest to apply
and get the best training possible, have the money for
the best training possible, and then have incentives. The lawmakers
can help have incentives to keep the elders in the profession.
There and then when there is something that comes up, well,
especially when there's a controversy that comes up, or you
(56:49):
see a video and you see a snippet of the
video on the news, stop condemning people without understanding what
actually occurred. And I can help anybody who wants to
look at a video of law enforcement, the use of force,
lawful use of force will never look good on video.
It never will, And most people have no clue about
(57:11):
the dynamics of a use of force interaction, how fast
it happens, what's necessary to prevail and survive, but also
what the law allows officers to do. What we seem
to be doing in some of these states is and we,
the projective people, seem to be focusing on, Well, the
(57:31):
criminal has a right to act how they want. We're
just going to regulate the officers, and that's got to stop.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
I agree, But I don't know how you get that
across in some of these cities where lawlessness seems to
be actually valued. I'm thinking of Portland, Seattle, San Francisco.
It just seems like Detroit, in Chicago. You go to
a big city and you feel like the police are
(58:03):
hampered because the government itself is so pro criminal, or
at least it feels that way.
Speaker 11 (58:11):
I think that sometimes you see those policies, But I
think what's going to fall back to is the general citizenry.
You may have a couple of and I'll just I'll
be polite, but you may have a couple of legislators
or city council members who are self important and live
behind metal detectors and gated communities and think that everybody
(58:33):
else is just being silly when they want to be safe.
The vast majority of people support the police. I tell
law enforcement ofsters around the United States, don't listen to
the noise. The public overwhelmingly supports you, and they need
to get to the town square. They need to go
to city council meetings. They need to be writing op
eds and telling the politicians who are not supporting police,
(58:57):
We're not going to support you in the next election.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Oh from your lips to God's ears. And with that
we're going to tap me. I hope so, I hope.
Speaker 10 (59:08):
So.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
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Line Lawyer Institute. He is also the twenty twenty one
National Fraternal Order of Police Attorney of the Year Award
and the author of When Cops Kill and Blue News.
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Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commando's Radio
Show with Sharon Angle and your truly Rick Trader, coming
to you from the My Pillar studios and My Story
studios of our very own au N TV network. All,
I want to thank our guests for sticking with this,
and that's Lance LaRusso. He's a leading attorney, the founder
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of Blue Line Lawyer Institute. He's also the author of
the books When Cops Kill in Blue Line News. Lance,
thank you for holding through that break. We really appreciate
your time. Lance. Safety was one of the major major
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issues of this past election, the safety, the border security, crime,
crime prevention, and I really I'm really seeing the penulum
swing back to where it should be, to where somebody
should be able to walk the streets in safety and
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comfort and wanted it gets your take on that. You know,
we saw in California Proposition thirty six pass, which would
increase criminal penalties for theft and certain drug related crimes.
And I think that the left for quite a while
has says, Oh, we've got to go soft on drug
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related crimes. But it seems to me and Lance here
as the professional, That's why I'm asking the question. These
drug related crimes, it seems to me or make up
the majority of crime. Is that correct?
Speaker 11 (01:02:43):
It has Most crime has some sort of a connection
to drugs. Other people are committing the crimes while on drugs.
They're committing the crimes to get drugs, they're committing drugs
to support a drug habit, or they're just in the
drug trade. And you know, we've dealt with this for
you for forty years. We've heard drugs are a victimless crime. Well,
you know what I want Whitney Houston back. You know
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we had you know, Matthew Perry died of a drug
overdose and everybody went crazy. Everybody wanted someone prosecuted. People
die of drug overdoses every day. Fentanyl is killing people.
And yet you still have individuals that are claiming that
if we penalize the possession of drugs, we're going to
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catch somebody who smoked one marijuana joint and got caught.
There are people who are selling poison to children and
they are getting out of prison and if you look
at like Proposition thirty six, the people who were against that,
you can look up online and hear what they say, Well,
it's going to increase the spending in prisons by millions
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of dollars. It's going to increase the number of people
in prison. They don't mention the fact that the drugs
themselves are dangerous and you know, doing something to fix
it is beneficial to society.
Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Lance didn't mean the snicker. You may want Whitney Houston back.
I want my nieces back. Yeah, I want my wife's
nephew back. It seems like drug and drug death has
hit every family. I don't know of any family that
hasn't hit. So, you know, forget this garbage that drugs
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is a victim of this crime. It is a huge, huge,
huge crime. Lance, I wanted to talk with you for
a minute about this Daniel Perry trial in New York
and the parallels to the George Floyd trial in Minnesota
few years back. What's your take on this the I'm sorry,
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the Daniel Penny trial, I said, Parry meant Daniel Penny.
You know, here was the marine or an ex marine
who's riding the subway a man got on and he
was acting very weird, threatened to hurt people, wanted to
go back to jail, and he said, somebody is going
to get hurt today or somebody's going to die today.
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And this man, Daniel Penny, stopped in and tried to
restrain this man while he ended up dead. It kind
of reminds me of the George Floyd incident. No one
it gets your take.
Speaker 11 (01:05:29):
So the parallels between the two are very very slim.
But and this is the parallels that I would draw
first and foremost with the trial in New York Penny
trial in New York. This concept that people cannot help themselves,
that people cannot use force to protect themselves and others,
is absolutely detrimental to people being safe in society. And
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if you remember when that happened, the first thing people said, well,
why did he Why did he intervene at all? Because
he's not going to stand there and watch people get threatened.
But I think one very very important point that we
can take as a parallel for both these cases. And
I was a kind of a commentator for the George
Floyd trial, this issue of whether or not drugs were
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the cause of someone's death and when we talk about
legally whether a drug caused someone's death when there has
been a physical confrontation. We saw this with the Eric
Garner case in New York. We've seen this with other cases,
especially with in custody deaths. The drugs that are on
the street are perfectly capable of killing people. And when
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you have somebody who is acting in an inappropriate, dangerous,
and irrational manner and they're taking drugs, this concept that
you had some other way to deal with them when
they're an altered when in an altered mindset, is just nonsense.
And I'll get back to a second. I want to
pull this back to this, this whole concept of de escalation.
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We expect a twenty six year old law enforcement officer
with some experience to be able to de escalate anything.
It doesn't matter what somebody does. And to share In's point,
the same people who will stand in the well of
the senate of a state legislature, they can't negotiate and
de escalate Uncle Bob off of the wedding platform and
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the microphone at his daughter's wedding when he's drunk. They
can't get their neighbor to put their keys down. On
New Year's Eve and keep from driving home. So there
are people, the vast majority of people that law enforcement
are dealing with on a regular basis are drunk, they
are impaired by alcohol, or they are impaired by mental illness.
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And to get a concept that the officer's actions were
not perfect because there was an imperfect resolution or outcome
is just absolutely pernicious. It is invaded Not only are
Lexicon and our TV and our movies, it's now invading
the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Well, when Nick got a fellow like Daniel Penny who
got involved because he thought he was helping people, what's
to say to the next person who gets into a
situation with there is a problem. Are people going to
just say, hey, I don't want to be involved, or
are they going to be like Daniel Penny and get
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involved and then have to pay the consequences for it.
Speaker 11 (01:08:33):
Well, we've had people saying that for years, going back
to the seventies. I believe it was the Kitty Genevieve
trial when people were not intervening it because they were afraid,
not only afraid of their own safety, but now they're
afraid of some of the consequences. And we have prosecutors
and we have politicians going after them.
Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
You know.
Speaker 11 (01:08:52):
The other issue, this really started a few years ago
with this whole concept of guardians versus warriors. You know,
should a law enforcement officer be a guardian or a warrior? Well,
nobody ever called nine to one one hiding from a
bad guy under the under the kitchen table, hoping that
a guardian would show up, or.
Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
A social worker. You know. Okay, today is Thanksgiving and
in New York and Thanksgiving they always have the amazies
Thanksgiving day break recently in New York and illegal and
illegal alien as I call them, I'm not very politically correct.
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I call them what they are, illegal aliens accosted a prosecutor,
held her up, and then sexually harassed her. Lance do
you think that's what it's going to take for a
lot of prosecutors to get tough on crime, that it
has to happen to them or somebody that they love.
Speaker 11 (01:09:57):
Well, it's an interesting you know. Con accept policy has
always been described as it depends on whose ox is
getting gourd. And I think that you're going to see
when there's an uprising by citizenry saying we've had enough,
that's what's going to change it. You know, the New
York City Police Department has been getting bashed by people
about the way they handle crime, about not handling crime enough.
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They do an outstanding job and an incredibly, incredibly densely
populated community, and they're assaulted, they're shot, they're killed, and
the amounts of assaults that they put up with on
a regular basis is just staggering. Like I said, we've
had three hundred and five officers shot in the line
of duty this year so far. So what is it
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going to take. I think it's going to take people
to speak up. There's no doubt that people support law enforcement.
And to Sharon's point, we were talking earlier about the election,
I think what's changed is people being willing to say, yeah,
you know, I'm one of those people. I've had it.
I don't want to be be afraid to open my
small business in the downtown area anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Well, I think not only all the things you talked about,
there's got to be a great deal of frustration. For instance,
I was talking to a lady whose daughter dates the
New York City Police officer, and what he said was
he'll arrest someone, book them. That person will be back
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out on the street before the police officers shift is over.
And could you talk with us about the relationship between
the police and the prosecutors. The police are trying to
do their job, they're arresting people, prosecutors are letting them go.
Speaker 11 (01:11:50):
Well, and keep in mind, in some cases, even when
the prosecutors are trying to enforce the law and do
the right thing, you have policies that were put in
place by individuals. Let's say the no cash bond, so
I can talk about that for a second. So eighth
Amendment to the United States Constitution, you have to have
a reasonable bond put in place. The purpose of bond
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is to ensure your appearance and trial. And this is
where the pendulum just went. It didn't even swing, It
fell off the clock. When you're saying that some people
are staying in jail and they're not able to bond
out because their bond is too high, that's a purpose
to have a bond hearing and have a judge intervened.
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But instead of recognizing there were ways to fix that,
they said, we're just going to do away with cash
bail and nobody has to post anything. And it's failed.
Every city every state that has put it into place
has the story or the hundred stories of how somebody
has been arrested, has distinguished themselves, and now we have
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a lot of stuff on body camera. They have distinguished
themselves as being dangerous. They get arrested, as you said,
they're out of they're out of jail before the tour
is over, and then they reoffend within twenty four hours.
It's time to recognize the policy failed.
Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Then who's the next victim? Who's the next victim of
these people that are let out? I mean we are
and it's supposed to be the honest person that's protected
from the dangerous person. And apparently these prosecutors are not
getting it. These politicians aren't getting it. But perhaps because
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of the last elections, perhaps it's not. Perhaps it's going
to change now.
Speaker 11 (01:13:41):
Well, it's really interesting because I hear people talk about
no accountability for police. You know, I've represented just shy
of one hundred and eighty law enforcement officers who've been
involved in shootings, and we represent officers all the time
when they are criticized, when they're condemned, and when they
make mistakes and they're held accountable. But in those let's
say that no cash bail situation, or when people are
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given a pass and they're not prosecuted. The judges making
those decisions and the prosecutors making those decisions have immunity,
absolute immunity. And while they're talking about doing away with
qualified immunity for law enforcement, I don't think I don't
see those folks stepping up and saying we'll surrender our
immunity as well.
Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
That'sllor Marissa. We want to thank you for joining us
here in the Conservative Commanders. But before you go, tell
us a little bit about the Blue Line Lawyer Institute.
Speaker 11 (01:14:35):
So the Blue Line Lawyer Institute is a think tank
for law enforcement officers and the attorneys who represent them.
We study everything from recent case law to use to
force interactions, and we study the dynamics, the realistic dynamics
of use of force. We also focus a lot on
officer resiliency because we've had a lot of officers that,
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you know, good or bad. This job takes a toll
on The statistics I heard was that the average person
will experience a post traumatic stress inducing event, not disorder,
post traumatic stress normal response to a horrible situation about
three or four times in their lifetime. A public safety
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officer over twenty years may experience seven hundred. So we're
dedicated to trying to help them, keeping the good people
in the profession, and helping advance the study of the
science of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
How can anybody be normal? Then? How can a police
officer be normal? How could they lead a normal life
after witnessing all those traumatic events. I mean, it's got
to affect them.
Speaker 11 (01:15:46):
It affects them. But you know they have big hearts.
And if you will, Matthew five nine, blessed are the
peacemakers and God looks out after him.
Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Lance said, tell your books when Cops Killed and Blue News.
How can people get them?
Speaker 11 (01:16:03):
They can get them at blue Line Lawyer dot com.
And of course you know you can buy them on
Amazon because you buy everything on Amazon. So we have
my first novel, Hunting of Man, and then we have
a book called Peacemaking about a cops walk with Christ
that talks a lot about what these the struggles that
officers go through.
Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
All right, Las LURUSO again, we want to thank you
so much for joining us. Take care, God bless and
have a wonderful thanksgiving you too.
Speaker 11 (01:16:29):
Thanks for having me and.
Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
You are listening too and watching The Conservative Commanders with
Sharon Angel. I'm Rick Trader. On the other side, We're
going to be joined by Judge Phil Gin with the
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thankful heart is the key to genuine worship. Don't go away,
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Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
Show with Sharon Angle and your truly Rick Trader and
you know Sharon the other day, in putting toget today's
show together for Thanksgiving, I wanted to kind of wrap
it up with some wisdom. I wanted to wrap it
up with a blessing I wanted to wrap it up
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with a feeling of Thanksgiving, and I called there and
I said, could you join us? Could you join us
for a Thanksgiving show and let's talk about all the
things that we're thankful for. And Sharon, please make the
introduction of ourn NEX guest.
Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
It's always my pleasure to introduce Judge Phil Ginn, who
was appointed President a Southern Evangelical Seminary in April of
twenty twenty one after a distinguished career as both a
lawyer and a judge. He holds a BA from Appalachian
State University and a jd from the University of North
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Carolina at Chapel Hill, and a Doctor of Ministry from
Southern Evangelical Cemetery. Prior to his appointment as SEES President,
Judge gin served as SEES Chairman of the Board of Trustees.
Judge gin Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos radio show.
Speaker 10 (01:18:54):
It's always my pleasure to be with you guys. It's
always a lot of fun and a very learning experience
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Thank you. It's fun for us as well. And you know,
one of the things that kind of surprises me, I
guess about this holiday is that people don't really understand
this holiday very well anymore. Today I was at the
gym and somebody said, well, happy Turkey Day to you,
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and I thought, but that's not what it's about. And
you've written a great article why a thankful heart is
the key to genuine worship. So let's talk about Thanksgiving
and what it's truly about.
Speaker 10 (01:19:43):
Well, you know, Sharon, the reality is that we get
so many sordid versions of the original Thanksgiving. It was
truly a three day event that the Pilgrims used to
thank God for the provisions, provisions that He gave to them.
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When it became a national holidayand under President Lincoln, it
was at the town when when the nation was divided,
and it was a it was a call back to
a thankfulness of who we are as Americans and to
what God has provided for us, particularly as Americans and
as followers of Christ and as well. And we've got
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so much to be thankful for and so much to
focus on as opposed to those things which divide us. Certainly,
those things that divide Christians are so important to us, seemingly,
but they're not nearly as important as those things which
unite us.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Absolutely, And I guess the other thing that I want
to clear up is why are we giving thanks? And
to whom do we give thanks?
Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
This is this is the other thing.
Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Somebody might say to me today and they have happy Thanksgiving,
But what is Thanksgiving? It's a rare and unique holiday
just to Americans.
Speaker 10 (01:21:09):
Well, you know, I was raised by a Southern lady
who expected you to say thank you, who expected you
to if you've got a gift or somebody did something
for you. Even as a nine or ten year old boy,
I had the torture of sitting down and writing a
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thank you note to them that was mailed properly, and
I had to say the right things before it went out.
And we've gotten away from that. I guess it's partly
because of our expectations of somebody treating us specially. We've
gone so far away from the thank you part of
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it that we get triggered if we're not treated as
something as somebody's pet. You know, I just don't understand it,
sharing to be honest with you, because I am a
thankful person. I understand that it's not because of me
that that any good thing happens to me, and it's
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only by the grace of God that that you can
look at my wife and know that I outpunted my coverage.
And so I can't take credit for winning my wife's heart.
It had to be the Lord that did that for me. So,
you know, all those good things that that really actually
means so much to us that we don't give a
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lot of thought process to. You know, we worry. I'm
one of those two that worries about money. Everybody, every
family needs to worry about money. And the month gets
too long for the money sometimes at my house, just
like it does everybody else's. But my gosh, you wake
up and I had heat this morning when it's chili
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and boone. I had you know, secure home. I had
loved ones that woke up. My wife woke up next
to me, My grandchildren woke up in the room and
and they were cheerful and they were happy. And you know,
coming through the hurricane that hit western North Carolina not
so long ago. Man, those little things are so important
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to us. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Well, you point out in your article that we need
to be thankful to the people that are around us,
if you truly are grateful for them. This is a
great time of year to say thanks.
Speaker 10 (01:23:35):
You know, I tried that. I just I just made
the effort, and uh, my wife and I had just
a moment which we rarely have of, uh where we
almost have to make appointments to meet with one another.
But I just got her, held her close and told her,
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I said, honey, I'm thankful for you, and she leaned
back and kind of looked at me. Funny, where is
this coming from? And it's there's magic in the words
that we say, and we so often just take you know,
even words like I love you become nothing more than
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just another word for goodbye, I see you later, be careful,
whatever those things, whatever those words are. And I just
think it's so important just to stop and to look
people in the eye, particularly those who you love, who
you oftentimes take the most for granted, and say to them,
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I'm thankful for you, not only for what you have
done for my life, but who you are as well.
You're special. To give that idea to them that you
really believe they're special, it will do wonders, I think
for marriages, I think it will do wanted or for
broken relationships. I just, uh, it worries me about the
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divisiveness in America and even those who we think are
are diametrically opposed to to what we believe and what
we know that they are Americans. And we're gonna if
if America gets in a in a bad spot in
the not too distant future, which we may very well do,
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we're gonna we're gonna need some folks that we don't
like stand by the box side.
Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Well, you know, that just brings brings up that point.
You know, if you're grateful that you have good neighbors,
that they keep their line up and they make it
good for you to live in your neighborhood, to tell
them thank you. But the bottom line in your article,
which I think we need to get to, is that
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this is the day of Thanksgiving to God. So that
was really where that whole declaration of this is going
to be a national Thanksgiving Day was rounded our president
at the time. I believe it was Abraham Lincoln. You
can correct me.
Speaker 10 (01:26:14):
But I would never do that, because you're always.
Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Right, No, no, I'm not, and our listeners know it.
They often. I think she kind of messed with that
a little bit. But you know, I was thinking he
was living during a hard, hard time in our in
our nation's history, and yet he said, we need to
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be thankful to God as a nation. How did How's
the best way to express that.
Speaker 10 (01:26:52):
I'm going through the Book of Revelation with a Bible
study that I teach at sees. We've got about sixty
or seventy people that come every Wednesday, and we live
stream it. We have probably another eighty folks or so
that watch by live stream or by delayed broadcast, because
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we do record it and you can watch it at
your leisure if you can't attend. But mostly I'll call
them the tour individuals who have been through life for
a little while. We have some relatively young people. I'm
probably middle of the road in terms of age. There's
some younger than me, but some older than me. And
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I got to the fourth chapter of Revelation and was
studying it, and I realized that we have a scene
of the first worship service that's recorded in heaven and
John looks through the open door of heaven and he
sees four living creatures. The King James calls them beasts,
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but that's not really exactly what they are. That's just
referred to as four living creatures. And he also noted
that there were twenty four elders, and ultimately they ended
up in a worship service for God and something jumped
out at me, which I'm awfully glad that it does.
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You as you read scripture over and over again, something
oftentimes will jump out at me and say, gee, I
never saw that before. And the one thing that I
noticed about this is that the living creatures worship God
for who he is. But when it came to the
twenty four elders, and I'm one of these pre millennious
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crazy people who believe that those twenty four elders probably
are representative of christ Church here that has been raptured
into heaven and this is a future scene for John.
And those twenty four elders are worshiping God for what
he's done. So there's two different things, two different ways
of approaching God, in worship and in thankfulness, because worship
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emanates when it comes to God. Total worship of God
emanates from a thankful heart. If we're not thankful, there's
no basis for worship. And so these folks approach God
from two different angles, very legitimate angles. But the living
creatures can't know what those twenty four elders know and
what Christ followers know is that Christ's blood and death
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on the cross is substitutionary death on the cross. It's
the greatest gift we could ever be given. And you know,
that's something that is remarkable to us who are followers
of Christ and who acknowledge the lordship of Christ. So
we not only can worship God for who he is,
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and that's very awesome in and of itself. I don't
want to detract from that, but we also have the
capacity to know what God has done for us, and
so that ought to bring forth in us a worshipful heart,
a thankful heart. And if we have a thankful heart
toward God, then it makes it a lot easier to
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be thankful for other people, and to be thankful for
all those who are around us, and to pay a
little bit better attention to them in terms of positiveness
as opposed to I can promise you if my wife
wanted to look for reasons for a divorce, she can
find many during any given day. So I'm so thankful
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that she looks for the positive things in me and
is thankful for those positive things and encourages those positive
things in me. And so we need to do that
in our personal relationships. And we can only do that
if we have a thankful heart toward God for who
he is and for what He's done.
Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Absolutely, there is so much to be thankful for. I
think of Squanto every every Thanksgiving. I think of how
God prepared Squanto to receive theres by. You know, it
looked like a bad thing shipped off to England, but
that's where he met Jesus, and once he knew Jesus,
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he was ready to receive these Jesus followers in this
new world. And I'm grateful for my pillow and they're
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and he has written a great article why a thankful
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Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio Show
with Sharon Engel and you're truly Rick Trader coming to
hear from the My Pillow studios and My Store studios
of the aun TV network. Very thankful. Today is Thanksgiving
for our guests, and that's Judge Phil Gin. He's the
(01:33:28):
president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary and we're discussing why
thankful heart is the key to genuine worship. Judge Gin,
thank you for holding through that break. I really do
appreciate your time, Judge Gin. I'm thankful. I wake up
just about every day thankful that I hit the lottery,
(01:33:52):
not the monetary lottery, but the lottery of being born
in the United States. I think guy hit the lottery
in to paraphrase the movie It's a Wonderful life. It's
a rich man who has friends. So I'm very, very
grateful and thankful for that. Like Sharon Angle, Jewish landerth
(01:34:13):
and Judge Phil Gain money. You mentioned that sometimes money
is not easy to come by, even for you and
your family. Well, I think about money, and I think
would money make me any happier? And I think about
all the people who do have riches, and yet their
(01:34:36):
lives don't seem to be that happy. So I come
away in thinking money maybe a yard stick to success
and happiness, but it is not the only yardstick to
have to happiness. And I think that happiness is an attitude.
(01:34:57):
People are happy because they want to be happy, or
they're not happy because they keep searching for happiness that's elusive.
And as you write in your article, it comes from
the heart. I just wanted to run that by you
and see if anything I said makes sense to you.
Speaker 10 (01:35:18):
Absolutely, Rick, I think that as far as Christians go,
which I count myself amongst that group, sometimes we get
this concept that if we come to Christ, that our
circumstances should be much better than other folks circumstances. And
we see that a lot with the with some of
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the TV preachers who who who tell us that that
that we can be healed if we have enough faith,
if we you know, can have a Cadillac in our yard,
if we have enough faith. Uh, you know, our mortgage
gets paid if we have enough faith, and and all
of that sort of thing. But what I what I've
come to realize is that oftentimes our circumstances don't improve
(01:36:07):
when we come to the Lord. In fact, oftentimes they
get worse when we come to the Lord. The difference is.
Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
To fall.
Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
One.
Speaker 10 (01:36:20):
It's never depended upon my faith in my relationship with Christ.
It's always depended upon Christ himself. My faith is just
a reaction to what He's already accomplished. Now, the second
thing is that even though my circumstances may be unchanged,
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they may be worse, they could be better. Whatever my
lot and life may be, I am no longer set
alone against those circumstances because I now I have somebody
to walk through those circumstances with me eternally, and that
is Jesus Christ. And so that's what I'm so thankful for.
(01:37:03):
As I faced this apostle, Paul wrote. You know, he said,
I know how to be abased, I know how to
be raised up. I know all of these different factions
of existence in my life, and yet through it all,
the one constant thing is Jesus Christ. And so if
we have that in our lives, we have everything in
(01:37:24):
the world to be thankful for and nothing to fear.
According to Paul, and I believe that from scripture.
Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
You know what I've found them is in, Judge gen
was to go to the Holy Land and to walk
in the footsteps of Jesus. And what that opportunity did
for me is it took the Bible itself out of
the room of this is just a story, and it
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made it history. It was very fortunate that when we
went on that trip, we went with priests, that the
reading we had mass wherever we went, and the readings
were pertaining to where we were. And you mentioned in
your article of the Sea of Galilee, And one of
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the most amazing things to me during that trip was
having mass in a boat on the Sea of Galilee.
And that simple act, that simple act, Judge Agin, brought
me closer to Jesus. It seriously did going to Turin,
(01:38:40):
Italy and seeing the Shroud of Turin, And in my opinion,
the Shroud of Turin is an artifact of the greatest
paranormal event of all time, that was the resurrection of
Jesus Christ. To go to the Church and the Nativity
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and be able to touch and kiss the place where
Jesus was born, where Jesus was born, to go to
the Church of the Holy Sepulcher where he died, I mean,
I feel grateful that I was able to find these
things in my life, and none of it had anything
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to do with money, per se, other than what it
caused us to take the trip. But I love the
story of Jesus, and I love it more. I love
it more having been to the place where he was born,
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to the place where he lived, the place where he
died was resurrected seeing the shroud of Turinnan. By the way,
if folks out there don't know what out of Turin is,
find out for yourself. To me, it's it's an amazing
artifact that all these scholars, all these worldly people can
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tell you everything that it's not this image of on
this cloth. It's not ink, it's not paint, it's not die,
it's not pencil, it's not crayon. They can tell you
everything that it isn't, but they can't tell you how
that mark was made. And for me, the answer is simple.
(01:40:39):
It was the light, the heat, the energy, whatever it
took that created that image on that cloth. And I
dare for anybody that can experience the things that I experienced,
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say the story of Jesus is made up? You know,
Judge can and I for one, for a long time. Well,
I don't know about the story of Jesus. I mean,
you know, you hear all these stories and rumors and whatever.
(01:41:22):
But for me, it was discovering that he was real
and that the root of Christianity is real. And that's
for me is the Resurrection.
Speaker 10 (01:41:36):
That's what sets us apart from everybody else. Let me
let me just say the proud of tour and my
friend Gary habermas H J B. E. R n E. S.
Has done a wonderful work on that. He is probably
the foremost authority on the resurrection in the United States.
He's from Liberty University, professor there and a very smart man.
(01:41:59):
And he's just released a work on the Shroud of Turin.
And if your folks are really wanting to look into that,
that would be a good source for that. You're right.
I referenced time on the Sea of Galilee when the
storm rose and Jesus was not with the disciples. He'd
sent them on ahead, and they were greatly in fear
(01:42:22):
of their lives, and for good reason, and Jesus came
to them walking on the water. And since Jesus came
to them in a way that they weren't expecting, they
almost missed him. In fact, they thought he was a ghost,
and when they realized who he was, and he came
into the boat with him and he's still the storm.
And history is recorded there in scripture that all through
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the Gospels up till that time, they'd called him rabbi,
they had called him friend, they had called him something
special certainly from time to time. That's the first time
in all of Scripture, according to Matthew, that they actually
knelt and worshiped him as Lord. And it was because
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they this was the time they had been saved. And
so I can't help but have that feeling, Rick because
I know what He's done for me, and I know
what he's done in my life, and that leads me
to worship because I am the one who has been saved,
(01:43:34):
and I am amazed by again who God is. It's
kind of like an amiba trying to understand the world
of the scientist on the other end of the microscope.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't know everything there
is to know about God. He's so awesome. But I
(01:43:55):
would not want to serve a God that I knew
everything about. I wouldn't want that because that would make
him no better than me. But I also worship God
because of his love for me so undeserved. I worship
him because he's not. He didn't say he didn't save
(01:44:15):
me because of who I am. He to say he
saved me despite who I am, and I expect, Ricky,
if we were all honest with each other, that would
be the case with every one of us. He saved
us despite of who we are. But the beauty of
it is that he doesn't want to leave us the
way we are. He wants us to be more and
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more and more like him. And and it's a journey
for me. Uh, I'm I'm not nearly as successful and
journey as I often wanted me. But it is a
journey nonetheless that I'm more than unwilling to walk and
and look forward to walking over the next few years
of my life, whatever the Lord gives to me. But
(01:44:57):
let me tell you, you know, if we're not interesting
in worship here on this earth, we might want to
really rethink whether or not we want to go to heaven,
because that's what we're going to be doing when we
get there, and I'm looking forward to that. How do
I say thanks to somebody like God? Or to an
(01:45:21):
entity like God. That revelation, the Book of Revelation recognizes
that these twenty four elders receive crowns. And I don't
know the basis for the crowns. There's some reference in
the Bible that those of us who get to heaven
(01:45:42):
may receive crowns. I don't know, But in the fourth
and fifth chapter of Revelation we find a remarkable thing
that those crowns are cast at the feet of Jesus
in worship. So I expect if I get a crown.
I don't know whether I will or not. I'll be
saying decided to get there. But if I get a crown,
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it may be momentarily satisfying to me to have a crown.
But then when I think of what Jesus has done,
I'm not gonna want my crown. Glory belongs to him.
Speaker 1 (01:46:14):
Do you think the crowd is itself is something tangible?
There's something intangible.
Speaker 10 (01:46:21):
I can't answer that question. That's beyond my grade.
Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
But you know when for me, and.
Speaker 10 (01:46:30):
It's having the Book of Revelation, it appears to be
a tangible thing. It appears to be a crown on
the head of the elders that they take off of
their head and and just basically throw it at the
feet of Jesus. Uh in honoring glory. And I see,
I almost get the image of the palm branches being
(01:46:52):
laid in front of the of him on the donkeys,
and the triumphal entry. Uh. And you know, let me
let me just say this. John was described as a
disciple whom Jesus loved. We see him at the Last
Supper reclining on the bosom of Jesus. He oftentimes gives
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his advice to Jesus. It may not have been good advice,
but he felt strong enough to give advice to Jesus.
He was one of the ones whose mother came with
his brother James and said, Lord, I want one on
the one one side and one on the other side.
But in the first chapter of Revelation, when John is
faced with the post incarnate Christ, it records that he
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fell on his face as though he were dead. That
was his response. And so if John was one who
knew him the best here on this earth, I expect
that I'm not going to have a lot to be
able to say to Jesus when I meet him, because
I think I'll be falling on my face as though
(01:48:02):
I was dead. I'm no better than John. I can't
promote myself any more than that. Because of that awesomeness
of not only again who Jesus is, but what he's done.
Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
It amazes me. You know, here we are, we're we've
elected a president, and this president is surrounding himself that
looks to me like very good people. And I think
about the people that Jesus surrounded himself with. None of
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these were perfect people. They were all flawed people, but
they there was something there that caused these flawed people
to follow Jesus, to give up their lives and to
follow him. And I think that to take a lot
(01:49:01):
of courage for them to do. We have the we
have the advantage today to know the story of Jesus,
the life, the birth, the life, the death, the resurrection.
We have that we're we're we're given that honor and
that privilege. But these people who the twelve disciples that
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followed him and the others that followed him too, that
was the faith. And I think that where I'm getting
at is faith is faith, because many times there may
be nothing tangible to have faith in other than the
(01:49:48):
individual himself. And I look at Jesus as being a radical.
And what I mean by that is the Jews expected
a great leader, they expected a general, they expected a
military man. What we got is we got a man
(01:50:10):
of peace and love and says this is how we
solve differences through peace, love and understanding. And that's why. See,
Jesus is so radical.
Speaker 10 (01:50:25):
And and Rick, I agree with you, and I know
our time is short.
Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
There's a couple of things I want I kept you along. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:50:32):
Number one, you know, Jesus does talk a lot about Hell,
and in fact, he talks a lot more about Hell
than he does love in scripture. And so we need
to understand that there is a say, salvation from from
something and and that's that's important to me. I'll hell,
(01:50:55):
I do and and and that's important in my relationship
but with Christ. But but the concept of spending forever
with Christ in heaven is is something far more valuable
than just avoiding head well, and as I go through this,
I would say to you that faith is very important.
And everybody has faith in something.
Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (01:51:16):
My mentor doctor Geisler, and and my friend Frank Turik
wrote a book called I Don't have enough faith to
be an atheist. And the point of that is that
we all put our faith in something unless look at
and what's worthy faith. Let me tell you something that
I'm really thankful for this Christmas or excuse me, Thanksgiving
and Christmas as it comes up as well. Uh, you know,
(01:51:39):
I'm thankful that we have a president that's going to
allow us some freedom of worship. I'm so thankful for that. Uh,
There's there's lots of other things to be thankful for.
I see a new spirit in America that what that
did not exist before the election, and that's partly the
euphoria that that post elections give to us. I guess
in some instances, one of the things I'm most thankful
(01:52:02):
for right now is that I see a spirit of
revival in our nation. I'm excited about where this is
going to go. I'm talking with folks all around the country,
and I'm not the only one that's seeing that. Really
can share in our little church here in Boone, North
Carolina's next door to Appalachian State University, and now we
(01:52:27):
have a sanctuary that will see about two hundred people
on any given Sunday if we pack them in really tightly,
and I guess five years ago we had about eighty
to one hundred people coming every Sunday. Right now we're
averaging over five hundred per week, and seventy percent of
those are under the age of thirty, and I would
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say the vast majority of those are Appalachian State University students.
Something's happening on the campus. God's becoming real to this generation.
And you know, one of the things I would say,
you talked about Jesus being a radical, and if you
want to be a radical, if you want to be
counter cultural right now, you need to come to Christ
(01:53:08):
in our nation. And I want to quickly say that
a Southern Evangelical seminary, we've started this concept of Truth
that Matters. And I was almost late to this taping
because of being on a conference call with some other folks.
We're starting a discipleship program at SEES that's going to
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be called Truth that Matters, and it has the capacity
to change in church in America, and it's a multiplication
factor that has never existed before. The initiative that we've
got is something new, it's something cutting edge. We're starting
out in North and South Carolina and in the State
of California, Rick, by the way. So it's an opportunity
(01:53:57):
for you guys out there to be in on this
beginning point of something that's really wonderful and it's going
to become a network of disciple makers that is going to,
in my humble opinion, have the ability to change the
course of the Church in America. And God knows we
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need that. Sixty eight percent of people in America claim
to be Christian, only six percent six point zero six
agree or understand and have a biblical worldview. So the
church is without regard and we've got to change that
because God has given us his word to know Him,
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and we need to get people back in that word,
and we need to refocus our nation. And we've got
at least two years to do that because there's not
going to be another election for two years, and so
we've got two years to do that. And I'm so
excited about that opportunity. And I just think it's time
for the people in this nation who call themselves Christians
(01:54:59):
to stand up and heard and to proclaim the Gospel.
And not only that, but you know that the Great
Commission doesn't tell us to go on and evangelize it says,
go and make disciples. So that's what we're going to
be about for the next two years, and until the
Lord stops us, we're going to continue to do it
at s yes and we just look forward to it.
And I just thank you guys for letting us be
(01:55:19):
a part of your lives as well as me coming
on your show from time to time. I have so
much fun in doing it, as I told you, and
I love to see both of you.
Speaker 1 (01:55:28):
Well, thank you, Jess Can we love having you on
and we As I said, when I was thinking of
someone to come on with us today and talk about Thanksgiving,
I just got it right away. I thought of you.
Speaker 10 (01:55:45):
Well, I just want to wish you and Sharon and
all your listeners the very happy Thanksgiving. I don't want
to We're not decorating until after Thanksgiving for Christmas. I'm
one of these people who wants to celebrate Thanksgiving before
I celebrate Christmas because, uh it's it's maybe my favorite
(01:56:05):
time of the year. Uh, particularly as I remember why
I ought to be thankful, And again I can't overemphasize enough.
This year, I am focusing on the fact that God
has been so faithful. He is who he is, and
he has done such a great work that I can't
help but be thankful. And I can't help but worshiping.
Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Judge Phil Kain the Southern Evangelical Seminary, Judge Gain. Before
you leave us, leave us with your website and.
Speaker 10 (01:56:36):
S E STU and embedded in that is t TM
dot net truth that matters dot net and uh, I
think if you go on those websites, you're gonna begin
to see, particularly on truth atmatters dot net. You're gonna
you're gonna see that being filled up with lots of
good information over the next for planning to launch the
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scene in the first quarter, may be fully launched by
the sometime on mid to late summer. And so I'm
just really excited about that, and I want your listeners
to be involved with that. And we'll come back maybe
sometime and we'll talk about it when it gets a
little bit closer.
Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
You can count on it.
Speaker 10 (01:57:14):
I'll tell you feel good.
Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
Thank you so much for joining us, Take care, God
bless and have a wonderful thanksgiving.
Speaker 10 (01:57:21):
Same to you guys. So good to be with you and.
Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
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Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Well, I want to thank our first guest, Lance LaRusso,
who is leading attorney and founder of the Blue Line
Lawyer Institute. He talked to us about what the election
meant for law enforcement and gave us some real hope
that the tide has turned and that we are going
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to see a better relationship I guess with our men
in blue. I'd also like to thank our guest, Judge
Phil Ginn, who is the president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary.
He wrote an article Why a thankful heart. It's the
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key to genuine worship.
Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
But for right now, we are out of time. That
means we got to run and we gotta go. Take care, Godless,
We'll see you tomorrow and that's going to be on
TV and on radio.
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Silver State of Nevada. And Sharon, welcome back to Conservative Commandos.
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Thanks Rick, always great to be here. Yesterday we talked
a bit about the media and how they lie.
Speaker 1 (01:14):
Oh I thought we were going to talk about Oh
got just side joke here.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
Just a side joke. So we're so, I'm which.
Speaker 1 (01:32):
Is okay, we can if we want, I mean, we
can talk about anything. So if we want to talk
about the guy that hung himself, we can do that.
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Okay, Well, I want to first talk about the New
York Times putting out false news about Israel. And I
think that you know, this Israel law, the Epstein lie,
the Russia Gate lie. We should be used to it, right,
(02:05):
but we fall for it every time. It seems like
the New York Times showed a picture of a starving
Gaza child, and everybody then thinks, including the President, maybe
there's some starvation going on over there. And so Israel
(02:25):
is now backed up trying to refute this story because
they have been putting aid in their daily aid in
the Gaza. And the truth of the matter is that
this little boy, possibly Palestinian, we don't know exactly, but
(02:48):
this little Gaza toddler that they the New York Times
went out and put out there, it went viral. This
boy's name is Mohammed's Korea al Matawak.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
He's good on you for that week, kid, I'm impressed.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
He's around eighteen months old and he looks awful, right,
He's very he's starved. But the problem is that this
child is not starving because of Israel's war with Hamas.
(03:30):
He has a medical problem. And the diagnosis of this
boy's condition then has caused him to have to go
to the hospital and be treated for it has nothing
to do with that starvation. He's suffering from cerebral palsy,
(03:53):
hypoxemia and a genetic disorder, so similar to my band,
and these pre existing health conditions are what is causing
him to look so awful. But here's the good side
of the life. So of course the New York Times
(04:14):
picks u up, puts it out there virally that this
is Israel's inhumane blockade and this is the heartbreaking evidence.
Well the evidence is not really evidence, But the good
side of it is that this child has been brought
to people's attention and now we'll get some help. So
(04:36):
that's the good side.
Speaker 1 (04:37):
And I bet that help will come in Israel. I
wouldn't be a bit something, Sharon that that help doesn't
come from Israel, that that child ends up in an
Israeli hospital. That's just something I'm saying off the top
of my head. But that will not surprise me. Well,
and it doesn't surprise me about the New York Times
(05:00):
publishing fake news either, right, That's why I think that's
why they got sued by Donald Trump and one and
lost fifteen million dollars to Donald Trump, fake news.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Fake news. And and here I thought this was just classic.
Someone posted them. Well, well, well, everyone with a brain
in their head knew this was fake. But the New
York Times, nobody in Gaza is starving except for the hostages,
remember them.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
Yeah, so you know, he.
Speaker 2 (05:34):
He nailed it. Remember that there are hostages being treated terribly.
They shouldn't even be hostages. That we've forgotten what that
war started with, which was this inhumane treatment of people,
an attack where they stole people out of Israel. They've
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been keeping them now for almost two years. And those
are the people that are coming back, and they look
terrible because of the conditions that they've been kept in.
And yes, and there's still twenty of them that are alive.
They feel like they are alive. And nobody's talking about it,
(06:16):
right except for Israel. Israel is trying to make a deal,
one final deal with AMAS to release these prisoners, these
ones that are truly and big trouble. And does the
New York Times carry that?
Speaker 1 (06:35):
No?
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Does any of the media over here carry that? No?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
No.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
And it's it's frustrating to say the least. But I
thought that it was worth following up on just a
little bit to say, don't believe it. That's why you're
tuned in here to au N TV network and two
conservative commandos is because you don't believe it. But tell
(07:02):
your friends don't believe that stuff. It really is angering
to hear the buy in though. You know, whole denominations
of Christians have bought into this, and it's it's just
amazing to me. Where are they getting their news? Well,
(07:25):
it has to be from this fake news media, from
the lame stream mainstream, and you know, Trump fights back.
He has really gone after some of these reporters for
what they are reporting, and in fact, he just hammered
(07:46):
one of the Foxes. You know Fox News people ask
me all the time, how come you don't have people
from the other side on conservative commandos. Why don't you
do that? And you can answer Rick, but I just
wanted to say this Fox News contributor, Jessica Tarlave is
(08:06):
from the other side, so of course she's going to
be anti Trump, and Trump just called her a real loser,
and then he named a few more and of course
then the backside of this is, well, it's all Trump's
fault that people like Stephen Colbert don't have a job anymore.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Really.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
Trump put that one away too. He says, no, having
been in showbiz and television, it's very simple, he said,
if you get the ratings, you can say or do
anything and stay on the air. If you don't, you
will always become a victim. Colbert made himself a victim
because of what he said, and he says, you know
(08:53):
that will happen. His ratings went down. He doesn't have
a job anymore, so he said, but the real reason
he was fired was because he's got It was a
pure lack of talent. So you know, we're just Harkens
is back to Trump's television show where he used to say,
you're fired.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Well, Sharon, I think as a I won't say it
doesn't have anything to do with lack of talent. What
it has to do with this lack of audience? Yes,
I mean that show was that show was losing forty
million dollars a year. I mean forty million dollars a year.
Now what network is that show? And I don't even
(09:37):
know is this CBS? Such?
Speaker 2 (09:38):
Oh oh, Stephen Colbert.
Speaker 1 (09:40):
Yeah, that's one CBS? Is it?
Speaker 2 (09:43):
Let me see?
Speaker 1 (09:44):
Well, whatever it is, whatever it is, that is that.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Network is in business, CBS.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
That business is in business. That network is in business
to make money, to make money. And when you've got
a show that's losing forty million dollars a year, guess
what chances are it's going to get acts. Now, let
me tell you something about that network. It's owned by shareholders.
(10:12):
It's owned by stockholders who own that network. And if that,
if the management of that network is losing that kind
of money, rest is sure the stockholders are going to
fire the management of that network. Okay, that's that's what
(10:33):
has to do it. As far as us not bringing
in the other side, you want the other side, go
to ABC, NBCCBS, CNN. I mean you, there's plenty of
places you can go for the other side, not a
whole lot of places you can go for our side.
That's why we don't have the other side. On another reason.
(10:54):
When you have the other side on what happens It
gets to be a big argument. Everybody talks over each other,
and you don't hear a damn thing. You don't learn
a damn thing. So other than the excitement of g
look they're fighting, you don't learn anything. You don't hear
a thing. So that's why we don't have the other
(11:15):
side on there. Let's talk about Gaza for a minute.
Let's talk about the hostages that have come back. They're
kind of on orders not to say a lot about
the treatment, but what has gotten out. They were horribly treated,
horribly treated, kept isolated, beaten, raped, tortured, horribly treated. They said,
(11:43):
not a single person that they dealt with over there
treated them decently. Not a single one of them treated
them decently. They are the people that elected Hamas as
their government, the people that are keeping Hamas in government there. Sharon,
(12:05):
I'm sorry, I don't see any innocent people there in Gaza.
You know what they can do. They can get out
of Gaza. They can get out of Gaza. They can
go to Egypt, they can go to Jordan, they can
even go to Israel. All right, they don't have to
stay in Gaza. They allow themselves to be used as
(12:27):
hostages themselves by Gaza. Whenever the Israelis attack, they announced.
I think it's a mistake, but they announced, but they're
going to attack. And you know what Gaza does, moves
civilians into that area. They allow themselves to be used. Now, Sharon,
I don't know about you. But if I was in
(12:49):
a war zone, guess what I would do whatever I
could to get out.
Speaker 2 (12:53):
Hey, well, in a war zone, man, that's exactly what
I did.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
Yes, you worries out here first plane that you could
get out, And that was an interesting story about you
getting out of Israel after October seventh. But even in Germany,
even in Germany and World War Two, as Germany was
being invaded on the east by the Russians and on
(13:18):
the west by the Allies, the people that were in
the war zone, especially in the eastern parts of Germany,
escaped to the west because they wanted to get away
from the Russians. They knew they would get a lot
better treatment from the Allies than they would from the Russians.
And when the Russians went into say, Berlin, there was
an awful lot of horrible things that happened, rapes, murderers,
(13:43):
it was terrible. The Russians treated the Germans horribly. You
know why the Germans treated the Russians harbly when they
invaded Russia. So it was tit for a tent And
I'm not saying that they didn't they deserved it or
didn't deserve it, But same thing here in Gaza, Sharon,
(14:07):
they are horrible people there. It's a war. Horrible things
happen in a war. Yes, this child, this child that
we're seeing thanks to the lion stinking New York Slimes,
as Mark Levin calls it all. It's all it is
proving is the New York Times doesn't investigate anymore. What
(14:32):
they do. They just take the the propaganda that's coming
out of Gaza and putting it up and say these
are the facts. You know what the facts are. The
New York Times is the New York Slimes. Without Sharon,
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Speaker 1 (18:03):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos. I'm
a trader, my cohre's the Sharon Angle, and we are
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we're going to talk about Epstein next or where are
we going in our conversations today?
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Well, not to that, I'm not good. No, I wanted
to go to r f K for Robert Robert F. Kennedy.
He's he's now going through and and he's wants to
put a drug that's actually available in mini markets gas
(18:48):
stations H on the Schedule one drug H list for
the de A. It's UH number seven high droxy. My guyning,
I'm hoping that's how it is, seven dash eight it's
(19:09):
h He says it's actually addictive and tied to overdoses,
and it's an opioids. What it is, but it is
found in a substance called Creighton that's being sold across
the country and drinks, gummies, and powders, but mostly in
(19:32):
smoke shops and convenience stores. He says it binds to
an MU receptor. I'm just depending on our audience for
those chemists out there to know exactly what we're talking
about here. But he said, scientifically, by definition, it's an opioid,
and that's what FDA Commissioner Marty McCarry is saying as well.
(19:57):
And so it's he says, it's third teen times This
is McCarry now speaking, thirteen times more potent than morphine.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Wow. Yeah, that's on the market.
Speaker 2 (20:10):
It's on them, and it's just being sold. Willy nilly,
what is it sold? He says. They're not targeting this
creton itself. But this seven d H that's in it,
it's a synthetic concentrated by product of Creighton. That's what
(20:32):
this is. But Creighton, then, is not the drug that
they're trying to get rid of. They're trying to get
rid of this byproduct of this Creton. So what they're
doing and it's basically to alert people that we could
have another crisis based on something that we think is
(20:54):
is safe and he's saying, no, it's not. It's there.
People are being misled. It carries a really high risk
of addiction. And it's uh, it's sold in places where
you think you're getting something to kind of pain relief,
(21:16):
so vape shops, smoke shops, things like that. It's kind
of as I am looking at this, it seems like
it's kind of tied to the whole cannabis distribution in
those places where uh, marijuana is legal and where it's
(21:37):
not and people have gone to vaping. It's sold there
and so it's a it's a drug that they're vaping
that is for chronic pain.
Speaker 1 (21:50):
And so this this product is c R E A
t I n E k r A T crate. Because
I'm just trying to figure out, what's this thing.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
A R A T O M is kraton, but what's
in it. It's not the kraton that Kennedy is objecting to.
It's what's in it. And he's just and it's uh,
this drug is uh, they it's got a huge name,
(22:24):
but they call it seven h H. So it's a hydroxy.
Speaker 1 (22:31):
C R A c R A t k R A
k R A t U O M. It's a Creighton polymeers
offered me many of the properties of synthetic rubber. It's
a synthetic replacement for rubber.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
So probably shouldn't be putting it in your body.
Speaker 1 (22:55):
Anyway.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
They're not going after cratom. They're they're going after this
drug that's within the krative byproduct. But what he's saying is.
Speaker 1 (23:09):
That now I'm seeing something else. I'm saying that it's
a it's an herbal substance that is that has the
stimulant and not opioate like effect. Craton stimulant effects include alertness,
rapid harb it. So it's almost sounds like one of
(23:31):
those uh power drugs five hour, five hour, you know
it's that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 2 (23:42):
Well, they they it says. Young people and veterans and
people who suffer from chronic pain or addiction are the
ones that take it. But they think that it's a
safe alternative, and he says it's not. It's not.
Speaker 1 (23:58):
Well, first of all, I'm suspicious of all drugs. I
think that we Americans are over medicated, and you know,
you turn on TV and you can't go a half
an hour without seeing two or three or four different
drugs advertised for everything from itchy skin to weight loss
(24:21):
to going to the bathroom better. I mean, there's just
all kinds of stuff being advertised, and they all say,
ask your doctor if this drug is right for you.
So we're over medicated. Is that the reason that we
are suffering more cancers today, or more depression today, or
(24:43):
more obesity today. I have no idea. I have no idea,
but I think that the American public has taken too
many drugs. Do we need all these drugs? I don't
think so.
Speaker 2 (24:57):
Well, that's what Robert Kennedy is saying, and actually is
following up on some things that are science that are
science right. And the MAO Clinic is saying creatim itself,
don't take it. It says it's a supplement that claims
to boost energy, mood, and pain relief, but it has
(25:18):
many safety issues and questions about its effectiveness. So MAO
Clinic is saying that don't take it, says unsafe and ineffective.
But here you go right on down and it's available
Kraton supplement on Amazon.
Speaker 1 (25:36):
You want to hear some of the side effects from
this sedation nausea, sweating, dry mouth, increase, urination, loss of appetite, itching, constipation, dizziness, confusion.
Case reports also described the following side effects addiction, withdraw
(25:57):
I can't pronounce that, liver injury, aching muscles and bones,
and jerky limb movements. I mean, there's a lot of
side of it, you know, Sharon, I say it all
the time. Every drug has side effects. Every drug has
side effects, and then you're taking medicines for the side
effects of medicine. Then you're taking more medicines for side effects.
(26:20):
You know this, This sounds like a bad a bad day. Nausea, sweating,
dry mouth, increase your nation, loss of appetite, eaching, constipation, dizziness,
and confusion. Sharon, that's a bad day.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
So now, well, now you have to ask the question
why is this out there just available to order or
to walk into a vape shop and get why is
it that it hasn't that the FDA didn't put it
(26:56):
on that list before. A professor professor of medical chemistry
at University of Florida says that creatium itself is like
a light beer in terms of potency. Really, that's that's
not what you were reading and no, possibly is that
(27:19):
the seven eight. Well, once it's extracted from Creton, it
becomes closer to it becomes closer to this light beer.
But as long as it's in that kratim that that
he says it's more more potent than morphine.
Speaker 1 (27:42):
Well, get this, Sharon. This was in I'm reading this,
and it says in November twenty seventeen. In February twenty eighteen,
the FDA issued a public health advisory about the deadly
risks associated There have been at least forty four reported
(28:05):
reports of cranium related deaths, sometimes used in combination with
other illicit drugs, prescription drugs or over the counter A agents.
Speaker 2 (28:18):
I mean, wow, wow, Okay, So here's here's the pushback.
Jeff Smith, national policy director of the Holistic Alternative Recovery
Trust Trade Association, said that there's no evidence that was
(28:40):
prevented at the press conference when they said this should
be taken off the anybody can get it without a
prescription market. And then he says there's not been a
single study and not one data points specific to this
seven dash old age. But I thought Mayo Clinic was
(29:01):
pretty specific. You know, I kind of trust their science
and their studies. So maybe not that day. Mayo didn't
show up that day. But that's kind of splitting hairs again,
isn't it. And it gives indeed, it gives people the
idea that once again there's no evidence, so it must
(29:24):
be safe. No, I think you know what we've got
here is is someone that's trying to protect a business. Right,
you take this off the market, then what happens to
the vape stores and the smoke shops and those people
(29:45):
that are dealing in this, even Amazon, maybe they you know,
maybe they'll have a dog in this fight as well,
because there's people making money with it.
Speaker 1 (29:54):
And so what are the benefits of this? And we're
going to have to go to break in a moment here,
Sharon uh. Similar effects manifests is increased alertness, boost physical energy, talkativeness,
and a more social behavior. Higher dose is the opioid
(30:15):
and CNS suppression effects predominate. So what are you getting
out of it? Nothing more than you would, I think
from a couple of good cups of tea.
Speaker 2 (30:28):
Well, here's here's what Mac Haddo, a spokesman for the
American Creative Association. So this is then that's making it
and he says that it should be on that list.
He said they're prepared to deal with the the the pushback,
(30:51):
but he says, we do not believe these products should
be available over the counter.
Speaker 1 (30:57):
Unrel unrel Just run a cup of coffee here, some
iced tea or something like that, and you'll get the
same effects. Talkativeness. You can see talkativeness right here. Increase synergy.
Like guess I have a cup of tea, go to
a break and you are listening to and watching conservative commandos.
I'm Rick trading my cousins, Sharon Angle, We'll be right.
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Commandos in the recent past. So don't go away after
this segment. Moving on Charm, what do you hear?
Speaker 2 (34:11):
Well, you know we've been waiting. We've been waiting. I've
been waiting to see if justice will be served, and
we're finding out that the people in Biden's cabinet, the
ones that he appointed to these jobs, were guilty. It's
(34:31):
not just Obama. It starts with Obama, but all the
way down the line, we've got some guilty folks. And
this latest one is Pete Buddha, judge who ignored engineers
who warned the dangers of constructing wind turbines near rail
roads and highways. So here we go, and they're now
(34:58):
finding out that that he knew stuff, but he didn't
act on what he knew. He instead just glossed over it.
And why do you do that? Because of climate change?
Because of that religious fervency that the Biden administration has
(35:21):
for climate change, they're they're willing to do anything to
get their things done. So they have pushed one hundred
and forty win projects. Uh and and they didn't do
anything about the safetory reviews here.
Speaker 1 (35:42):
What was the problem of putting them near highways or railroads.
Speaker 2 (35:47):
Well, their little roads fly off.
Speaker 1 (35:52):
Well, so are like four hundred feet.
Speaker 2 (35:57):
Long, right, and so they don't They just don't want
them around. But for that purpose. But the other thing
is that they interfere with telecommunications. They they warned that
one Illinois project that the turbines were within one to
(36:18):
three miles of rail lines could pose an undue risk
to train communications. So they that thing is a they're
a hazard that way. So there's lots of stuff going
on here with these wind urmins that Pete Boudage just
just said, no problem here, don't worry about it, don't
(36:41):
make a study into it, don't look at it too close.
They you know, they even this is what kind of
smacks of whatever I just read you with the Commerce
Department National Telegram Communications said about an undue risk train
(37:03):
communication as well. Uh, it was withdrawn then without any explanation.
Speaker 1 (37:11):
What was withdrawn this report?
Speaker 2 (37:14):
Their report there, their uh, their warning, they withdrew it.
So they got some orders from headquarters. It sounds like
and they said, Okay.
Speaker 1 (37:28):
It didn't fit the narrative, sharing didn't fit the agenda,
didn't fit the agenda. Well, Sharon, for years we've been
talking about wind and solar that it's impractical, it's a
it's a solution that doesn't work for a problem that
doesn't exist. We have all kinds of energy here in
(37:51):
this country, gas, oil, oh, nuclear, So it's not like
we need the energy. They the left just don't like
that energy it does. They don't like the the fossil
fuel energies. And you know when you look at I
used to Mary and I used to go and have
(38:14):
pizza at this park in Summer's Point, New Jersey, that
was very near the Beasley Point power Plant, which was
a cold fire plant. It was right across the ag
Carper River from this place, Kennedy Park and Summer's Point,
(38:36):
and we used to really really nice place to go.
Sharon and Mary and I would stop at one of
our favorite pizza shops and get a pizza and go
down there. And on the banks of the Great Bay
that is fed by the a Carper River, used to
have our pizza there. As I said, right across the
(38:57):
river was the Beasley Point power Plant coal fire plant.
There was ever any it didn't smell, there was no smoke.
It was clean burning. However, the state of New Jersey
pushing this green energy garbage very very much the way
the Obama administration, the Obiden administration, the left is they
(39:23):
tore down this power plant along with six or seven
other power plants. They shut down the Oyster Creek Nuclear
power plant. Now what has happened is New Jersey has
to buy almost half of its energy from neighboring states. Okay,
(39:47):
now because of that, you know what they did. They
raised the rates by forty one percent for electricity. Why
they do that, Well, we don't have enough energy. Yes,
the reason being is they shut down these plants. You
know what was supposed to replace it, windmills out at sea.
(40:10):
Now you're traveling all the way from Kansas or in
your case, Rita Nevada. You want to see the Atlantic Ocean? Well,
what are those things out there?
Speaker 5 (40:20):
Windmills?
Speaker 1 (40:21):
Do you want to see the ocean, the beaches, the birds,
or do you want to see windmills? Again? I used
to say all the time, what's going to happen the
first hurricane Sandy that rips up the East coast and
destroys all those windmills. Guess what where are we going
to get our electric? Then we'll have to buy even
more from neighboring states. It's so it's a solution that
(40:45):
didn't work for a problem that does not exist, and
it's all to push their agenda. Who benefits? Who benefits?
Why the Chinese do? Why do the Chinese benefit? That's
where all the stupid wind products are made, the generators,
(41:05):
the props, the propellers, that's where all that garbage is made.
Isful life about ten to fifteen years. Then all that
is junk and it can't be recycled. Say, have these
massive rotor blades look like a propeller, These massive rotor
(41:29):
blades that they have to store somewhere, I have to
store somewhere. Solar don't work. They're tearing down massive amounts
of trees and forests and farms to put up these
stupid solar farms that look idious, that don't give you
enough energy, doesn't give you enough energy. The energy that
(41:52):
it does give you is overpriced and subsidized. It's just
the vicious cycle of stupid. My gosh, Sharon, where's the
time going. We're having fun?
Speaker 2 (42:05):
Don't know, But I want to just give a shout
out to Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, who's now investigating this stuff,
has brought it up and is going to look into
making sure that these turbines are not built at least
one point two miles from critical infrastructure. So at least
(42:27):
he's on it. He's seen what Buddha Judge did with
his neglect, and it's more than just neglect.
Speaker 1 (42:35):
Why don't Sean Duffy and Donald Trump say no more,
We're not going to build anymore. We're putting a more
toward him on any construction of these things that's off
the problem. Hopefully that's what Donald Trump and Sean Duffy's
going to do. No more weeks on windmills.
Speaker 2 (42:53):
Well, I just wanted to follow up on Pete Boodha Judge,
but in another vein he's going to run for president.
So we always wondered what who the other side was
going to pull out of their had for the twenty
twenty eight run, and he's he's going to put himself
(43:15):
up for that. He at recent polling showed him as
a top contender for the Democrat nomination. He trails Harris,
who has the thirty five point one, so he doesn't
even have that one. But they said she's unlikely to
run again. But he's already head of Gavin Newsom and
(43:37):
Alexandria Ocasio Cortes. So that's who they got, Kamala Harris,
Pete booted Judge, Gavin Newsom and aoc.
Speaker 1 (43:50):
Bring them on, Bring them one, bring one whoever the Democrats.
I mean, seriously, it's like being the best player on
the last place team and you're not even you wouldn't
even be a good player and a really good team.
All right, What is his qualifications? He doesn't have any.
I'm looking him up. Now. What did he ever do?
(44:11):
I mean, did he ever have a job? I don't know,
I mean, did he ever have a job? Graduate of
Harvard University, University of Oxford, later attended as a Rhodes Scholar,
work for management consulting firm. Uh, he was an intelligence
officer in the Navy Reserve.
Speaker 2 (44:33):
Well, here's what Tom, Senator Tom Cotton says. He says,
Pete Booty Judge couldn't organize a one car funeral.
Speaker 1 (44:41):
Well, that's that's that's that's.
Speaker 2 (44:45):
That's what he's saying about his his qualifications for the
role of transportation segrad Cheron.
Speaker 1 (44:52):
Can I let me ask you this. Do you know
who James Muller is?
Speaker 8 (44:58):
No?
Speaker 1 (44:59):
Do you know who Steve Lukak is?
Speaker 11 (45:02):
No?
Speaker 1 (45:03):
L u c k e. Well, they are the mayors
in his office before and afterwards. Marriage you know who
those guys are. No, you don't know, probably because they're
not gay. They're not they we're not giving the job
as Transpartery Secretary Transportation secretary because they were gay. That's
(45:27):
why you don't know about these guys. Unbelievable, unbelievable, Mary P. Mayor,
p Mayor, Mary Py. I just want to I want
to look, Wow, a lot of footnotes here. I just
(45:48):
want to tell a writing before we do go into
the break, how many votes you got in this last election,
Like I said, it was a little over eight thousand.
Let me see what says here mayor the South Bend
(46:13):
mayoral election of twenty fifteen, he got a total of
eight thousand, five hundred and fifteen votes. That was the
total he got, all right. There were only ten thousand people,
ten thousand, five hundred and eighty nine people that cast
a vote in that election, and he got eight thousand,
five hundred and fifteen. The Republican got two thousand and
(46:36):
seventy four. So that tells you a lot about South Bend, Indiana,
doesn't it. Okay, Oh my god. In fact, he got
less votes he received left, No, he got two hundred
more votes of the second time he ran then the
first five eight thousand, five hundred and fifteen votes. That's
(46:59):
how many votes he got, and he thinks he's qualified
to be president of the United States. Sharon, we do
need to take a break, whine, because on the other
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the best of the interviews that we have done here
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Speaker 1 (49:04):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commando's radio
show with Sharon Engel and you're Shirley Rick Drader coming
to you from the My Pila Studios and my store
studios of the AUN TV network and sharing Our first
guest of the day is with us and take it away.
Speaker 2 (49:22):
Well, it's my pleasure to introduce Lance LaRusso, who is
leading attorney, founder of Blue Line Lawyer Institute, the twenty
twenty one National Fraternal Order of Police Attorney of the Year,
and author of When Copskill and Blue News. Lance has
appeared on CNN, Fox News, Channel ABC and numerous media
(49:47):
outlets nationwide for his expertise. Lance, welcome back to the
Conservative Commando's radio show.
Speaker 11 (49:54):
Thanks for having me back.
Speaker 2 (49:56):
Well, it's our pleasure, Lance, and it's really our pleasure
now that we're on the other side of this election,
because we've all been wondering what what's going to happen
if the other side won and they got their way
with the defund the police movement, which that seemed like
for the last four years that was really being pressed hard.
(50:22):
Tell us this side, now, how do you feel about
what happened in this election and how is law enforcement
taking it.
Speaker 11 (50:31):
Yeah, it's a really interesting point because right after the election,
and keep in mind Donald Trump's not going to be
sworn in for some time now, but we immediately have
seen people openly backing up on the defund the police movement,
which I have classified as the fastest conceived, implemented, and
failed social policy in United States history. It doesn't work.
(50:53):
Law enforcement knew it wasn't going to work. They were
the ones that told people, you're going to put vulnerable
community even more and more vulnerable positions, and the less
of us that are available, the less we can protect them.
So now you're starting to see the refund the police
movement the well, maybe we made a mistake, and fortunately
(51:16):
law enforcement still stepping up and taking care of taking
care of the communities.
Speaker 2 (51:21):
Well, that's a sigh of relief on Ourian, I'm sure, Lencea.
I am relieved because we need these guys, and this
is crazy to think that a community can go without. However,
it seems like the law itself is undermining police authority.
(51:45):
You know, I'm thinking of the crazy law and we
have it here too that if your loss is less
than one thousand dollars, there's no prosecution.
Speaker 11 (51:55):
Yeah, you know, and it's it's absolutely ridiculous. And I
knew that Rick would have his make America Great hat
on again, so I wanted to share my at with
you serve others live without fear. If we're talking about
law enforcement, you know that's basically what they're doing every day.
And when you bring this arrest people only if they
commit a crime under over one thousand dollars. It is
an arbitrary number. It is SoundBite fodder, is all it is.
(52:22):
Law enforcement officers are responding to these crimes. And what's
really interesting is people talk about property crimes. Well, imagine
you're a twenty year old who is working in a
big box store and there's swarms of people coming in
and robbing the store, and they're doing it from the
presence of people. It's not just shoplifting. This is organized
retail theft. The people that work in those stores are
(52:45):
not going to have jobs if the bottom line gets
to a point where they have to move out. And
that was a claim to be a figment of the
imagination of people like me who said it was coming.
But we've seen it. We've seen communities with a big
box store. Pharmacies have had to leave, they can't afford
to work there anymore, and all those jobs went with them.
Speaker 2 (53:07):
It's even kind of interesting when the store hasn't left,
how they have tightened things up just to make sure
that nobody walks out with anything. You know, there's in
the cosmetic department of Walmart, for instance, you can't buy
nail polish anymore without an attendant coming, getting a key,
(53:29):
getting what you want, and she takes it and rings
it up for you, so there's no theft going on there.
The other thing is that, you know, you point out
the security in these stores, they're not they're not living
without fear. My daughter in a small town fell in Nevada,
(53:51):
she went into Walmart to buy some diapers one evening
about ten o'clock. Some guys in hoodies came in, took
out two basketful of groceries and different things, and security
didn't stop them. And she says, aren't you gonna do
something about what just happened here? They didn't, you know,
(54:13):
they didn't check out, And he said, it's not worth
my life.
Speaker 10 (54:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 11 (54:18):
And that's an interesting point because when we talk about
law enforcement, and you mentioned the arrests, every arrest a
law enforcement makes is an extremely dangerous thing to do.
It doesn't matter whether it's a misdemeanor, a felony, a
dui arrest, an arm robber on a warrant. They're all dangerous.
We've had over three hundred and five officers shot in
the line of duty so far this year, and we've
(54:40):
had dozens ambushed. So it's almost like a recognition. It's
celebrating lawlessness. Okay, we're gonna let this kind of lawlessness
go unrecognized, and we're going to ignore some of this
some of this stuff. But what they don't recognize is
when people are a and that's where I think we
(55:01):
saw this voting out of some of the das who
have been soft on crime. When people are afraid, when
they can't go to the grocery store, when they can't
go to their office without fear, they are having an
impingement on their freedom. So when a law enforcement officer
is there and you know you're not going to be
a victim of a crime, you are more free to
(55:23):
go about your business. And I think what you saw
in this last election was a backlash. We want to
be able to walk around in a free society without
being afraid of becoming a crime.
Speaker 2 (55:34):
Vacim free society. But we have these laws. I'm going
to kind of circle back there. How can lawmakers they
should be this should be a heads up. I would
think this mandate that we have to get back to
law in order, if you will, how can lawmakers structure
(55:56):
the law to be more police friendly? How can we
pressure our representatives to do something that actually gives us
more freedom? As you put out, well, I.
Speaker 11 (56:07):
Think one of the first things they can do is
to recognize that law enforcement agencies cannot be the sole
source of recruiting. So if you have a three hundred
person law enforcement agency, which is huge in the United States,
they may have three or four people devoted to recruiting.
So the communities need to be supported in their efforts
(56:28):
to go find the best and the brightest to apply
and get the best training possible, have the money for
the best training possible, and then have incentives. The lawmakers
can help have incentives to keep the elders in the profession.
There and then when there is something that comes up, well,
especially when there's a controversy that comes up, or you
(56:49):
see a video and you see a snippet of the
video on the news, stop condemning people without understanding what
actually occurred. And I can help anybody who wants to
look at a video of law enforcement, the use of force,
lawful use of force will never look good on video.
It never will, And most people have no clue about
(57:11):
the dynamics of a use of force interaction, how fast
it happens, what's necessary to prevail and survive, but also
what the law allows officers to do. What we seem
to be doing in some of these states is and we,
the projective people, seem to be focusing on, Well, the
(57:31):
criminal has a right to act how they want. We're
just going to regulate the officers, and that's got to stop.
Speaker 2 (57:39):
I agree, But I don't know how you get that
across in some of these cities where lawlessness seems to
be actually valued. I'm thinking of Portland, Seattle, San Francisco.
It just seems like Detroit, in Chicago. You go to
a big city and you feel like the police are
(58:03):
hampered because the government itself is so pro criminal, or
at least it feels that way.
Speaker 11 (58:11):
I think that sometimes you see those policies, But I
think what's going to fall back to is the general citizenry.
You may have a couple of and I'll just I'll
be polite, but you may have a couple of legislators
or city council members who are self important and live
behind metal detectors and gated communities and think that everybody
(58:33):
else is just being silly when they want to be safe.
The vast majority of people support the police. I tell
law enforcement ofsters around the United States, don't listen to
the noise. The public overwhelmingly supports you, and they need
to get to the town square. They need to go
to city council meetings. They need to be writing op
eds and telling the politicians who are not supporting police,
(58:57):
We're not going to support you in the next election.
Speaker 2 (59:00):
Oh from your lips to God's ears. And with that
we're going to tap me. I hope so, I hope.
Speaker 10 (59:08):
So.
Speaker 2 (59:09):
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who is the leading attorney and founder of the Blue
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and the author of When Cops Kill and Blue News.
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Speaker 1 (01:01:01):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commando's Radio
Show with Sharon Angle and your truly Rick Trader, coming
to you from the My Pillar studios and My Story
studios of our very own au N TV network. All,
I want to thank our guests for sticking with this,
and that's Lance LaRusso. He's a leading attorney, the founder
(01:01:22):
of Blue Line Lawyer Institute. He's also the author of
the books When Cops Kill in Blue Line News. Lance,
thank you for holding through that break. We really appreciate
your time. Lance. Safety was one of the major major
(01:01:44):
issues of this past election, the safety, the border security, crime,
crime prevention, and I really I'm really seeing the penulum
swing back to where it should be, to where somebody
should be able to walk the streets in safety and
(01:02:06):
comfort and wanted it gets your take on that. You know,
we saw in California Proposition thirty six pass, which would
increase criminal penalties for theft and certain drug related crimes.
And I think that the left for quite a while
has says, Oh, we've got to go soft on drug
(01:02:28):
related crimes. But it seems to me and Lance here
as the professional, That's why I'm asking the question. These
drug related crimes, it seems to me or make up
the majority of crime. Is that correct?
Speaker 11 (01:02:43):
It has Most crime has some sort of a connection
to drugs. Other people are committing the crimes while on drugs.
They're committing the crimes to get drugs, they're committing drugs
to support a drug habit, or they're just in the
drug trade. And you know, we've dealt with this for
you for forty years. We've heard drugs are a victimless crime. Well,
you know what I want Whitney Houston back. You know
(01:03:07):
we had you know, Matthew Perry died of a drug
overdose and everybody went crazy. Everybody wanted someone prosecuted. People
die of drug overdoses every day. Fentanyl is killing people.
And yet you still have individuals that are claiming that
if we penalize the possession of drugs, we're going to
(01:03:28):
catch somebody who smoked one marijuana joint and got caught.
There are people who are selling poison to children and
they are getting out of prison and if you look
at like Proposition thirty six, the people who were against that,
you can look up online and hear what they say, Well,
it's going to increase the spending in prisons by millions
(01:03:50):
of dollars. It's going to increase the number of people
in prison. They don't mention the fact that the drugs
themselves are dangerous and you know, doing something to fix
it is beneficial to society.
Speaker 1 (01:04:08):
Lance didn't mean the snicker. You may want Whitney Houston back.
I want my nieces back. Yeah, I want my wife's
nephew back. It seems like drug and drug death has
hit every family. I don't know of any family that
hasn't hit. So, you know, forget this garbage that drugs
(01:04:31):
is a victim of this crime. It is a huge, huge,
huge crime. Lance, I wanted to talk with you for
a minute about this Daniel Perry trial in New York
and the parallels to the George Floyd trial in Minnesota
few years back. What's your take on this the I'm sorry,
(01:04:54):
the Daniel Penny trial, I said, Parry meant Daniel Penny.
You know, here was the marine or an ex marine
who's riding the subway a man got on and he
was acting very weird, threatened to hurt people, wanted to
go back to jail, and he said, somebody is going
to get hurt today or somebody's going to die today.
(01:05:16):
And this man, Daniel Penny, stopped in and tried to
restrain this man while he ended up dead. It kind
of reminds me of the George Floyd incident. No one
it gets your take.
Speaker 11 (01:05:29):
So the parallels between the two are very very slim.
But and this is the parallels that I would draw
first and foremost with the trial in New York Penny
trial in New York. This concept that people cannot help themselves,
that people cannot use force to protect themselves and others,
is absolutely detrimental to people being safe in society. And
(01:05:55):
if you remember when that happened, the first thing people said, well,
why did he Why did he intervene at all? Because
he's not going to stand there and watch people get threatened.
But I think one very very important point that we
can take as a parallel for both these cases. And
I was a kind of a commentator for the George
Floyd trial, this issue of whether or not drugs were
(01:06:17):
the cause of someone's death and when we talk about
legally whether a drug caused someone's death when there has
been a physical confrontation. We saw this with the Eric
Garner case in New York. We've seen this with other cases,
especially with in custody deaths. The drugs that are on
the street are perfectly capable of killing people. And when
(01:06:39):
you have somebody who is acting in an inappropriate, dangerous,
and irrational manner and they're taking drugs, this concept that
you had some other way to deal with them when
they're an altered when in an altered mindset, is just nonsense.
And I'll get back to a second. I want to
pull this back to this, this whole concept of de escalation.
(01:07:02):
We expect a twenty six year old law enforcement officer
with some experience to be able to de escalate anything.
It doesn't matter what somebody does. And to share In's point,
the same people who will stand in the well of
the senate of a state legislature, they can't negotiate and
de escalate Uncle Bob off of the wedding platform and
(01:07:24):
the microphone at his daughter's wedding when he's drunk. They
can't get their neighbor to put their keys down. On
New Year's Eve and keep from driving home. So there
are people, the vast majority of people that law enforcement
are dealing with on a regular basis are drunk, they
are impaired by alcohol, or they are impaired by mental illness.
(01:07:46):
And to get a concept that the officer's actions were
not perfect because there was an imperfect resolution or outcome
is just absolutely pernicious. It is invaded Not only are
Lexicon and our TV and our movies, it's now invading
the courtroom.
Speaker 1 (01:08:07):
Well, when Nick got a fellow like Daniel Penny who
got involved because he thought he was helping people, what's
to say to the next person who gets into a
situation with there is a problem. Are people going to
just say, hey, I don't want to be involved, or
are they going to be like Daniel Penny and get
(01:08:29):
involved and then have to pay the consequences for it.
Speaker 11 (01:08:33):
Well, we've had people saying that for years, going back
to the seventies. I believe it was the Kitty Genevieve
trial when people were not intervening it because they were afraid,
not only afraid of their own safety, but now they're
afraid of some of the consequences. And we have prosecutors
and we have politicians going after them.
Speaker 1 (01:08:52):
You know.
Speaker 11 (01:08:52):
The other issue, this really started a few years ago
with this whole concept of guardians versus warriors. You know,
should a law enforcement officer be a guardian or a warrior? Well,
nobody ever called nine to one one hiding from a
bad guy under the under the kitchen table, hoping that
a guardian would show up, or.
Speaker 1 (01:09:12):
A social worker. You know. Okay, today is Thanksgiving and
in New York and Thanksgiving they always have the amazies
Thanksgiving day break recently in New York and illegal and
illegal alien as I call them, I'm not very politically correct.
(01:09:33):
I call them what they are, illegal aliens accosted a prosecutor,
held her up, and then sexually harassed her. Lance do
you think that's what it's going to take for a
lot of prosecutors to get tough on crime, that it
has to happen to them or somebody that they love.
Speaker 11 (01:09:57):
Well, it's an interesting you know. Con accept policy has
always been described as it depends on whose ox is
getting gourd. And I think that you're going to see
when there's an uprising by citizenry saying we've had enough,
that's what's going to change it. You know, the New
York City Police Department has been getting bashed by people
about the way they handle crime, about not handling crime enough.
(01:10:21):
They do an outstanding job and an incredibly, incredibly densely
populated community, and they're assaulted, they're shot, they're killed, and
the amounts of assaults that they put up with on
a regular basis is just staggering. Like I said, we've
had three hundred and five officers shot in the line
of duty this year so far. So what is it
(01:10:45):
going to take. I think it's going to take people
to speak up. There's no doubt that people support law enforcement.
And to Sharon's point, we were talking earlier about the election,
I think what's changed is people being willing to say, yeah,
you know, I'm one of those people. I've had it.
I don't want to be be afraid to open my
small business in the downtown area anymore.
Speaker 1 (01:11:08):
Well, I think not only all the things you talked about,
there's got to be a great deal of frustration. For instance,
I was talking to a lady whose daughter dates the
New York City Police officer, and what he said was
he'll arrest someone, book them. That person will be back
(01:11:31):
out on the street before the police officers shift is over.
And could you talk with us about the relationship between
the police and the prosecutors. The police are trying to
do their job, they're arresting people, prosecutors are letting them go.
Speaker 11 (01:11:50):
Well, and keep in mind, in some cases, even when
the prosecutors are trying to enforce the law and do
the right thing, you have policies that were put in
place by individuals. Let's say the no cash bond, so
I can talk about that for a second. So eighth
Amendment to the United States Constitution, you have to have
a reasonable bond put in place. The purpose of bond
(01:12:11):
is to ensure your appearance and trial. And this is
where the pendulum just went. It didn't even swing, It
fell off the clock. When you're saying that some people
are staying in jail and they're not able to bond
out because their bond is too high, that's a purpose
to have a bond hearing and have a judge intervened.
(01:12:31):
But instead of recognizing there were ways to fix that,
they said, we're just going to do away with cash
bail and nobody has to post anything. And it's failed.
Every city every state that has put it into place
has the story or the hundred stories of how somebody
has been arrested, has distinguished themselves, and now we have
(01:12:55):
a lot of stuff on body camera. They have distinguished
themselves as being dangerous. They get arrested, as you said,
they're out of they're out of jail before the tour
is over, and then they reoffend within twenty four hours.
It's time to recognize the policy failed.
Speaker 1 (01:13:11):
Then who's the next victim? Who's the next victim of
these people that are let out? I mean we are
and it's supposed to be the honest person that's protected
from the dangerous person. And apparently these prosecutors are not
getting it. These politicians aren't getting it. But perhaps because
(01:13:34):
of the last elections, perhaps it's not. Perhaps it's going
to change now.
Speaker 11 (01:13:41):
Well, it's really interesting because I hear people talk about
no accountability for police. You know, I've represented just shy
of one hundred and eighty law enforcement officers who've been
involved in shootings, and we represent officers all the time
when they are criticized, when they're condemned, and when they
make mistakes and they're held accountable. But in those let's
say that no cash bail situation, or when people are
(01:14:05):
given a pass and they're not prosecuted. The judges making
those decisions and the prosecutors making those decisions have immunity,
absolute immunity. And while they're talking about doing away with
qualified immunity for law enforcement, I don't think I don't
see those folks stepping up and saying we'll surrender our
immunity as well.
Speaker 1 (01:14:24):
That'sllor Marissa. We want to thank you for joining us
here in the Conservative Commanders. But before you go, tell
us a little bit about the Blue Line Lawyer Institute.
Speaker 11 (01:14:35):
So the Blue Line Lawyer Institute is a think tank
for law enforcement officers and the attorneys who represent them.
We study everything from recent case law to use to
force interactions, and we study the dynamics, the realistic dynamics
of use of force. We also focus a lot on
officer resiliency because we've had a lot of officers that,
(01:14:58):
you know, good or bad. This job takes a toll
on The statistics I heard was that the average person
will experience a post traumatic stress inducing event, not disorder,
post traumatic stress normal response to a horrible situation about
three or four times in their lifetime. A public safety
(01:15:19):
officer over twenty years may experience seven hundred. So we're
dedicated to trying to help them, keeping the good people
in the profession, and helping advance the study of the
science of law enforcement.
Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
How can anybody be normal? Then? How can a police
officer be normal? How could they lead a normal life
after witnessing all those traumatic events. I mean, it's got
to affect them.
Speaker 11 (01:15:46):
It affects them. But you know they have big hearts.
And if you will, Matthew five nine, blessed are the
peacemakers and God looks out after him.
Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
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How can people get them?
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And of course you know you can buy them on
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a book called Peacemaking about a cops walk with Christ
that talks a lot about what these the struggles that
officers go through.
Speaker 1 (01:16:20):
All right, Las LURUSO again, we want to thank you
so much for joining us. Take care, God bless and
have a wonderful thanksgiving you too.
Speaker 11 (01:16:29):
Thanks for having me and.
Speaker 1 (01:16:31):
You are listening too and watching The Conservative Commanders with
Sharon Angel. I'm Rick Trader. On the other side, We're
going to be joined by Judge Phil Gin with the
Southern Evangelical Seminary. We're going to talk about why a
thankful heart is the key to genuine worship. Don't go away,
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Speaker 1 (01:17:30):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
Show with Sharon Angle and your truly Rick Trader and
you know Sharon the other day, in putting toget today's
show together for Thanksgiving, I wanted to kind of wrap
it up with some wisdom. I wanted to wrap it
up with a blessing I wanted to wrap it up
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with a feeling of Thanksgiving, and I called there and
I said, could you join us? Could you join us
for a Thanksgiving show and let's talk about all the
things that we're thankful for. And Sharon, please make the
introduction of ourn NEX guest.
Speaker 2 (01:18:13):
It's always my pleasure to introduce Judge Phil Ginn, who
was appointed President a Southern Evangelical Seminary in April of
twenty twenty one after a distinguished career as both a
lawyer and a judge. He holds a BA from Appalachian
State University and a jd from the University of North
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Carolina at Chapel Hill, and a Doctor of Ministry from
Southern Evangelical Cemetery. Prior to his appointment as SEES President,
Judge gin served as SEES Chairman of the Board of Trustees.
Judge gin Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos radio show.
Speaker 10 (01:18:54):
It's always my pleasure to be with you guys. It's
always a lot of fun and a very learning experience
as well.
Speaker 2 (01:19:02):
Thank you. It's fun for us as well. And you know,
one of the things that kind of surprises me, I
guess about this holiday is that people don't really understand
this holiday very well anymore. Today I was at the
gym and somebody said, well, happy Turkey Day to you,
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and I thought, but that's not what it's about. And
you've written a great article why a thankful heart is
the key to genuine worship. So let's talk about Thanksgiving
and what it's truly about.
Speaker 10 (01:19:43):
Well, you know, Sharon, the reality is that we get
so many sordid versions of the original Thanksgiving. It was
truly a three day event that the Pilgrims used to
thank God for the provisions, provisions that He gave to them.
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When it became a national holidayand under President Lincoln, it
was at the town when when the nation was divided,
and it was a it was a call back to
a thankfulness of who we are as Americans and to
what God has provided for us, particularly as Americans and
as followers of Christ and as well. And we've got
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so much to be thankful for and so much to
focus on as opposed to those things which divide us. Certainly,
those things that divide Christians are so important to us, seemingly,
but they're not nearly as important as those things which
unite us.
Speaker 2 (01:20:45):
Absolutely, And I guess the other thing that I want
to clear up is why are we giving thanks? And
to whom do we give thanks?
Speaker 1 (01:20:54):
You know?
Speaker 2 (01:20:54):
This is this is the other thing.
Speaker 1 (01:20:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (01:20:57):
Somebody might say to me today and they have happy Thanksgiving,
But what is Thanksgiving? It's a rare and unique holiday
just to Americans.
Speaker 10 (01:21:09):
Well, you know, I was raised by a Southern lady
who expected you to say thank you, who expected you
to if you've got a gift or somebody did something
for you. Even as a nine or ten year old boy,
I had the torture of sitting down and writing a
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thank you note to them that was mailed properly, and
I had to say the right things before it went out.
And we've gotten away from that. I guess it's partly
because of our expectations of somebody treating us specially. We've
gone so far away from the thank you part of
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it that we get triggered if we're not treated as
something as somebody's pet. You know, I just don't understand it,
sharing to be honest with you, because I am a
thankful person. I understand that it's not because of me
that that any good thing happens to me, and it's
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only by the grace of God that that you can
look at my wife and know that I outpunted my coverage.
And so I can't take credit for winning my wife's heart.
It had to be the Lord that did that for me. So,
you know, all those good things that that really actually
means so much to us that we don't give a
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lot of thought process to. You know, we worry. I'm
one of those two that worries about money. Everybody, every
family needs to worry about money. And the month gets
too long for the money sometimes at my house, just
like it does everybody else's. But my gosh, you wake
up and I had heat this morning when it's chili
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and boone. I had you know, secure home. I had
loved ones that woke up. My wife woke up next
to me, My grandchildren woke up in the room and
and they were cheerful and they were happy. And you know,
coming through the hurricane that hit western North Carolina not
so long ago. Man, those little things are so important
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to us. Now.
Speaker 2 (01:23:22):
Well, you point out in your article that we need
to be thankful to the people that are around us,
if you truly are grateful for them. This is a
great time of year to say thanks.
Speaker 10 (01:23:35):
You know, I tried that. I just I just made
the effort, and uh, my wife and I had just
a moment which we rarely have of, uh where we
almost have to make appointments to meet with one another.
But I just got her, held her close and told her,
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I said, honey, I'm thankful for you, and she leaned
back and kind of looked at me. Funny, where is
this coming from? And it's there's magic in the words
that we say, and we so often just take you know,
even words like I love you become nothing more than
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just another word for goodbye, I see you later, be careful,
whatever those things, whatever those words are. And I just
think it's so important just to stop and to look
people in the eye, particularly those who you love, who
you oftentimes take the most for granted, and say to them,
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I'm thankful for you, not only for what you have
done for my life, but who you are as well.
You're special. To give that idea to them that you
really believe they're special, it will do wonders, I think
for marriages, I think it will do wanted or for
broken relationships. I just, uh, it worries me about the
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divisiveness in America and even those who we think are
are diametrically opposed to to what we believe and what
we know that they are Americans. And we're gonna if
if America gets in a in a bad spot in
the not too distant future, which we may very well do,
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we're gonna we're gonna need some folks that we don't
like stand by the box side.
Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Well, you know, that just brings brings up that point.
You know, if you're grateful that you have good neighbors,
that they keep their line up and they make it
good for you to live in your neighborhood, to tell
them thank you. But the bottom line in your article,
which I think we need to get to, is that
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this is the day of Thanksgiving to God. So that
was really where that whole declaration of this is going
to be a national Thanksgiving Day was rounded our president
at the time. I believe it was Abraham Lincoln. You
can correct me.
Speaker 10 (01:26:14):
But I would never do that, because you're always.
Speaker 2 (01:26:18):
Right, No, no, I'm not, and our listeners know it.
They often. I think she kind of messed with that
a little bit. But you know, I was thinking he
was living during a hard, hard time in our in
our nation's history, and yet he said, we need to
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be thankful to God as a nation. How did How's
the best way to express that.
Speaker 10 (01:26:52):
I'm going through the Book of Revelation with a Bible
study that I teach at sees. We've got about sixty
or seventy people that come every Wednesday, and we live
stream it. We have probably another eighty folks or so
that watch by live stream or by delayed broadcast, because
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we do record it and you can watch it at
your leisure if you can't attend. But mostly I'll call
them the tour individuals who have been through life for
a little while. We have some relatively young people. I'm
probably middle of the road in terms of age. There's
some younger than me, but some older than me. And
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I got to the fourth chapter of Revelation and was
studying it, and I realized that we have a scene
of the first worship service that's recorded in heaven and
John looks through the open door of heaven and he
sees four living creatures. The King James calls them beasts,
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but that's not really exactly what they are. That's just
referred to as four living creatures. And he also noted
that there were twenty four elders, and ultimately they ended
up in a worship service for God and something jumped
out at me, which I'm awfully glad that it does.
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You as you read scripture over and over again, something
oftentimes will jump out at me and say, gee, I
never saw that before. And the one thing that I
noticed about this is that the living creatures worship God
for who he is. But when it came to the
twenty four elders, and I'm one of these pre millennious
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crazy people who believe that those twenty four elders probably
are representative of christ Church here that has been raptured
into heaven and this is a future scene for John.
And those twenty four elders are worshiping God for what
he's done. So there's two different things, two different ways
of approaching God, in worship and in thankfulness, because worship
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emanates when it comes to God. Total worship of God
emanates from a thankful heart. If we're not thankful, there's
no basis for worship. And so these folks approach God
from two different angles, very legitimate angles. But the living
creatures can't know what those twenty four elders know and
what Christ followers know is that Christ's blood and death
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on the cross is substitutionary death on the cross. It's
the greatest gift we could ever be given. And you know,
that's something that is remarkable to us who are followers
of Christ and who acknowledge the lordship of Christ. So
we not only can worship God for who he is,
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and that's very awesome in and of itself. I don't
want to detract from that, but we also have the
capacity to know what God has done for us, and
so that ought to bring forth in us a worshipful heart,
a thankful heart. And if we have a thankful heart
toward God, then it makes it a lot easier to
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be thankful for other people, and to be thankful for
all those who are around us, and to pay a
little bit better attention to them in terms of positiveness
as opposed to I can promise you if my wife
wanted to look for reasons for a divorce, she can
find many during any given day. So I'm so thankful
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that she looks for the positive things in me and
is thankful for those positive things and encourages those positive
things in me. And so we need to do that
in our personal relationships. And we can only do that
if we have a thankful heart toward God for who
he is and for what He's done.
Speaker 2 (01:30:46):
Absolutely, there is so much to be thankful for. I
think of Squanto every every Thanksgiving. I think of how
God prepared Squanto to receive theres by. You know, it
looked like a bad thing shipped off to England, but
that's where he met Jesus, and once he knew Jesus,
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he was ready to receive these Jesus followers in this
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and he has written a great article why a thankful
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Speaker 1 (01:33:08):
Welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio Show
with Sharon Engel and you're truly Rick Trader coming to
hear from the My Pillow studios and My Store studios
of the aun TV network. Very thankful. Today is Thanksgiving
for our guests, and that's Judge Phil Gin. He's the
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president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary and we're discussing why
thankful heart is the key to genuine worship. Judge Gin,
thank you for holding through that break. I really do
appreciate your time, Judge Gin. I'm thankful. I wake up
just about every day thankful that I hit the lottery,
(01:33:52):
not the monetary lottery, but the lottery of being born
in the United States. I think guy hit the lottery
in to paraphrase the movie It's a Wonderful life. It's
a rich man who has friends. So I'm very, very
grateful and thankful for that. Like Sharon Angle, Jewish landerth
(01:34:13):
and Judge Phil Gain money. You mentioned that sometimes money
is not easy to come by, even for you and
your family. Well, I think about money, and I think
would money make me any happier? And I think about
all the people who do have riches, and yet their
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lives don't seem to be that happy. So I come
away in thinking money maybe a yard stick to success
and happiness, but it is not the only yardstick to
have to happiness. And I think that happiness is an attitude.
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People are happy because they want to be happy, or
they're not happy because they keep searching for happiness that's elusive.
And as you write in your article, it comes from
the heart. I just wanted to run that by you
and see if anything I said makes sense to you.
Speaker 10 (01:35:18):
Absolutely, Rick, I think that as far as Christians go,
which I count myself amongst that group, sometimes we get
this concept that if we come to Christ, that our
circumstances should be much better than other folks circumstances. And
we see that a lot with the with some of
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the TV preachers who who who tell us that that
that we can be healed if we have enough faith,
if we you know, can have a Cadillac in our yard,
if we have enough faith. Uh, you know, our mortgage
gets paid if we have enough faith, and and all
of that sort of thing. But what I what I've
come to realize is that oftentimes our circumstances don't improve
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when we come to the Lord. In fact, oftentimes they
get worse when we come to the Lord. The difference is.
Speaker 1 (01:36:16):
To fall.
Speaker 5 (01:36:18):
One.
Speaker 10 (01:36:20):
It's never depended upon my faith in my relationship with Christ.
It's always depended upon Christ himself. My faith is just
a reaction to what He's already accomplished. Now, the second
thing is that even though my circumstances may be unchanged,
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they may be worse, they could be better. Whatever my
lot and life may be, I am no longer set
alone against those circumstances because I now I have somebody
to walk through those circumstances with me eternally, and that
is Jesus Christ. And so that's what I'm so thankful for.
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As I faced this apostle, Paul wrote. You know, he said,
I know how to be abased, I know how to
be raised up. I know all of these different factions
of existence in my life, and yet through it all,
the one constant thing is Jesus Christ. And so if
we have that in our lives, we have everything in
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the world to be thankful for and nothing to fear.
According to Paul, and I believe that from scripture.
Speaker 1 (01:37:33):
You know what I've found them is in, Judge gen
was to go to the Holy Land and to walk
in the footsteps of Jesus. And what that opportunity did
for me is it took the Bible itself out of
the room of this is just a story, and it
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made it history. It was very fortunate that when we
went on that trip, we went with priests, that the
reading we had mass wherever we went, and the readings
were pertaining to where we were. And you mentioned in
your article of the Sea of Galilee, And one of
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the most amazing things to me during that trip was
having mass in a boat on the Sea of Galilee.
And that simple act, that simple act, Judge Agin, brought
me closer to Jesus. It seriously did going to Turin,
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Italy and seeing the Shroud of Turin, And in my opinion,
the Shroud of Turin is an artifact of the greatest
paranormal event of all time, that was the resurrection of
Jesus Christ. To go to the Church and the Nativity
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and be able to touch and kiss the place where
Jesus was born, where Jesus was born, to go to
the Church of the Holy Sepulcher where he died, I mean,
I feel grateful that I was able to find these
things in my life, and none of it had anything
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to do with money, per se, other than what it
caused us to take the trip. But I love the
story of Jesus, and I love it more. I love
it more having been to the place where he was born,
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to the place where he lived, the place where he
died was resurrected seeing the shroud of Turinnan. By the way,
if folks out there don't know what out of Turin is,
find out for yourself. To me, it's it's an amazing
artifact that all these scholars, all these worldly people can
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tell you everything that it's not this image of on
this cloth. It's not ink, it's not paint, it's not die,
it's not pencil, it's not crayon. They can tell you
everything that it isn't, but they can't tell you how
that mark was made. And for me, the answer is simple.
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It was the light, the heat, the energy, whatever it
took that created that image on that cloth. And I
dare for anybody that can experience the things that I experienced,
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say the story of Jesus is made up? You know,
Judge can and I for one, for a long time. Well,
I don't know about the story of Jesus. I mean,
you know, you hear all these stories and rumors and whatever.
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But for me, it was discovering that he was real
and that the root of Christianity is real. And that's
for me is the Resurrection.
Speaker 10 (01:41:36):
That's what sets us apart from everybody else. Let me
let me just say the proud of tour and my
friend Gary habermas H J B. E. R n E. S.
Has done a wonderful work on that. He is probably
the foremost authority on the resurrection in the United States.
He's from Liberty University, professor there and a very smart man.
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And he's just released a work on the Shroud of Turin.
And if your folks are really wanting to look into that,
that would be a good source for that. You're right.
I referenced time on the Sea of Galilee when the
storm rose and Jesus was not with the disciples. He'd
sent them on ahead, and they were greatly in fear
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of their lives, and for good reason, and Jesus came
to them walking on the water. And since Jesus came
to them in a way that they weren't expecting, they
almost missed him. In fact, they thought he was a ghost,
and when they realized who he was, and he came
into the boat with him and he's still the storm.
And history is recorded there in scripture that all through
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the Gospels up till that time, they'd called him rabbi,
they had called him friend, they had called him something
special certainly from time to time. That's the first time
in all of Scripture, according to Matthew, that they actually
knelt and worshiped him as Lord. And it was because
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they this was the time they had been saved. And
so I can't help but have that feeling, Rick because
I know what He's done for me, and I know
what he's done in my life, and that leads me
to worship because I am the one who has been saved,
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and I am amazed by again who God is. It's
kind of like an amiba trying to understand the world
of the scientist on the other end of the microscope.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't know everything there
is to know about God. He's so awesome. But I
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would not want to serve a God that I knew
everything about. I wouldn't want that because that would make
him no better than me. But I also worship God
because of his love for me so undeserved. I worship
him because he's not. He didn't say he didn't save
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me because of who I am. He to say he
saved me despite who I am, and I expect, Ricky,
if we were all honest with each other, that would
be the case with every one of us. He saved
us despite of who we are. But the beauty of
it is that he doesn't want to leave us the
way we are. He wants us to be more and
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more and more like him. And and it's a journey
for me. Uh, I'm I'm not nearly as successful and
journey as I often wanted me. But it is a
journey nonetheless that I'm more than unwilling to walk and
and look forward to walking over the next few years
of my life, whatever the Lord gives to me. But
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let me tell you, you know, if we're not interesting
in worship here on this earth, we might want to
really rethink whether or not we want to go to heaven,
because that's what we're going to be doing when we
get there, and I'm looking forward to that. How do
I say thanks to somebody like God? Or to an
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entity like God. That revelation, the Book of Revelation recognizes
that these twenty four elders receive crowns. And I don't
know the basis for the crowns. There's some reference in
the Bible that those of us who get to heaven
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may receive crowns. I don't know, But in the fourth
and fifth chapter of Revelation we find a remarkable thing
that those crowns are cast at the feet of Jesus
in worship. So I expect if I get a crown.
I don't know whether I will or not. I'll be
saying decided to get there. But if I get a crown,
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it may be momentarily satisfying to me to have a crown.
But then when I think of what Jesus has done,
I'm not gonna want my crown. Glory belongs to him.
Speaker 1 (01:46:14):
Do you think the crowd is itself is something tangible?
There's something intangible.
Speaker 10 (01:46:21):
I can't answer that question. That's beyond my grade.
Speaker 1 (01:46:25):
But you know when for me, and.
Speaker 10 (01:46:30):
It's having the Book of Revelation, it appears to be
a tangible thing. It appears to be a crown on
the head of the elders that they take off of
their head and and just basically throw it at the
feet of Jesus. Uh in honoring glory. And I see,
I almost get the image of the palm branches being
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laid in front of the of him on the donkeys,
and the triumphal entry. Uh. And you know, let me
let me just say this. John was described as a
disciple whom Jesus loved. We see him at the Last
Supper reclining on the bosom of Jesus. He oftentimes gives
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his advice to Jesus. It may not have been good advice,
but he felt strong enough to give advice to Jesus.
He was one of the ones whose mother came with
his brother James and said, Lord, I want one on
the one one side and one on the other side.
But in the first chapter of Revelation, when John is
faced with the post incarnate Christ, it records that he
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fell on his face as though he were dead. That
was his response. And so if John was one who
knew him the best here on this earth, I expect
that I'm not going to have a lot to be
able to say to Jesus when I meet him, because
I think I'll be falling on my face as though
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I was dead. I'm no better than John. I can't
promote myself any more than that. Because of that awesomeness
of not only again who Jesus is, but what he's done.
Speaker 1 (01:48:18):
It amazes me. You know, here we are, we're we've
elected a president, and this president is surrounding himself that
looks to me like very good people. And I think
about the people that Jesus surrounded himself with. None of
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these were perfect people. They were all flawed people, but
they there was something there that caused these flawed people
to follow Jesus, to give up their lives and to
follow him. And I think that to take a lot
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of courage for them to do. We have the we
have the advantage today to know the story of Jesus,
the life, the birth, the life, the death, the resurrection.
We have that we're we're we're given that honor and
that privilege. But these people who the twelve disciples that
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followed him and the others that followed him too, that
was the faith. And I think that where I'm getting
at is faith is faith, because many times there may
be nothing tangible to have faith in other than the
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individual himself. And I look at Jesus as being a radical.
And what I mean by that is the Jews expected
a great leader, they expected a general, they expected a
military man. What we got is we got a man
(01:50:10):
of peace and love and says this is how we
solve differences through peace, love and understanding. And that's why. See,
Jesus is so radical.
Speaker 10 (01:50:25):
And and Rick, I agree with you, and I know
our time is short.
Speaker 1 (01:50:28):
There's a couple of things I want I kept you along. Yeah.
Speaker 10 (01:50:32):
Number one, you know, Jesus does talk a lot about Hell,
and in fact, he talks a lot more about Hell
than he does love in scripture. And so we need
to understand that there is a say, salvation from from
something and and that's that's important to me. I'll hell,
(01:50:55):
I do and and and that's important in my relationship
but with Christ. But but the concept of spending forever
with Christ in heaven is is something far more valuable
than just avoiding head well, and as I go through this,
I would say to you that faith is very important.
And everybody has faith in something.
Speaker 2 (01:51:16):
Uh.
Speaker 10 (01:51:16):
My mentor doctor Geisler, and and my friend Frank Turik
wrote a book called I Don't have enough faith to
be an atheist. And the point of that is that
we all put our faith in something unless look at
and what's worthy faith. Let me tell you something that
I'm really thankful for this Christmas or excuse me, Thanksgiving
and Christmas as it comes up as well. Uh, you know,
(01:51:39):
I'm thankful that we have a president that's going to
allow us some freedom of worship. I'm so thankful for that. Uh,
There's there's lots of other things to be thankful for.
I see a new spirit in America that what that
did not exist before the election, and that's partly the
euphoria that that post elections give to us. I guess
in some instances, one of the things I'm most thankful
(01:52:02):
for right now is that I see a spirit of
revival in our nation. I'm excited about where this is
going to go. I'm talking with folks all around the country,
and I'm not the only one that's seeing that. Really
can share in our little church here in Boone, North
Carolina's next door to Appalachian State University, and now we
(01:52:27):
have a sanctuary that will see about two hundred people
on any given Sunday if we pack them in really tightly,
and I guess five years ago we had about eighty
to one hundred people coming every Sunday. Right now we're
averaging over five hundred per week, and seventy percent of
those are under the age of thirty, and I would
(01:52:47):
say the vast majority of those are Appalachian State University students.
Something's happening on the campus. God's becoming real to this generation.
And you know, one of the things I would say,
you talked about Jesus being a radical, and if you
want to be a radical, if you want to be
counter cultural right now, you need to come to Christ
(01:53:08):
in our nation. And I want to quickly say that
a Southern Evangelical seminary, we've started this concept of Truth
that Matters. And I was almost late to this taping
because of being on a conference call with some other folks.
We're starting a discipleship program at SEES that's going to
(01:53:34):
be called Truth that Matters, and it has the capacity
to change in church in America, and it's a multiplication
factor that has never existed before. The initiative that we've
got is something new, it's something cutting edge. We're starting
out in North and South Carolina and in the State
of California, Rick, by the way. So it's an opportunity
(01:53:57):
for you guys out there to be in on this
beginning point of something that's really wonderful and it's going
to become a network of disciple makers that is going to,
in my humble opinion, have the ability to change the
course of the Church in America. And God knows we
(01:54:17):
need that. Sixty eight percent of people in America claim
to be Christian, only six percent six point zero six
agree or understand and have a biblical worldview. So the
church is without regard and we've got to change that
because God has given us his word to know Him,
(01:54:37):
and we need to get people back in that word,
and we need to refocus our nation. And we've got
at least two years to do that because there's not
going to be another election for two years, and so
we've got two years to do that. And I'm so
excited about that opportunity. And I just think it's time
for the people in this nation who call themselves Christians
(01:54:59):
to stand up and heard and to proclaim the Gospel.
And not only that, but you know that the Great
Commission doesn't tell us to go on and evangelize it says,
go and make disciples. So that's what we're going to
be about for the next two years, and until the
Lord stops us, we're going to continue to do it
at s yes and we just look forward to it.
And I just thank you guys for letting us be
(01:55:19):
a part of your lives as well as me coming
on your show from time to time. I have so
much fun in doing it, as I told you, and
I love to see both of you.
Speaker 1 (01:55:28):
Well, thank you, Jess Can we love having you on
and we As I said, when I was thinking of
someone to come on with us today and talk about Thanksgiving,
I just got it right away. I thought of you.
Speaker 10 (01:55:45):
Well, I just want to wish you and Sharon and
all your listeners the very happy Thanksgiving. I don't want
to We're not decorating until after Thanksgiving for Christmas. I'm
one of these people who wants to celebrate Thanksgiving before
I celebrate Christmas because, uh it's it's maybe my favorite
(01:56:05):
time of the year. Uh, particularly as I remember why
I ought to be thankful, And again I can't overemphasize enough.
This year, I am focusing on the fact that God
has been so faithful. He is who he is, and
he has done such a great work that I can't
help but be thankful. And I can't help but worshiping.
Speaker 1 (01:56:27):
Judge Phil Kain the Southern Evangelical Seminary, Judge Gain. Before
you leave us, leave us with your website and.
Speaker 10 (01:56:36):
S E STU and embedded in that is t TM
dot net truth that matters dot net and uh, I
think if you go on those websites, you're gonna begin
to see, particularly on truth atmatters dot net. You're gonna
you're gonna see that being filled up with lots of
good information over the next for planning to launch the
(01:56:57):
scene in the first quarter, may be fully launched by
the sometime on mid to late summer. And so I'm
just really excited about that, and I want your listeners
to be involved with that. And we'll come back maybe
sometime and we'll talk about it when it gets a
little bit closer.
Speaker 1 (01:57:11):
You can count on it.
Speaker 10 (01:57:14):
I'll tell you feel good.
Speaker 1 (01:57:17):
Thank you so much for joining us, Take care, God
bless and have a wonderful thanksgiving.
Speaker 10 (01:57:21):
Same to you guys. So good to be with you and.
Speaker 1 (01:57:24):
You are listening to and watching the Conservative Commanders with
shar An Angle I'm Rick Trader, go nowhere sharing and
are but back for news and commentary right after this break.
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Speaker 2 (01:59:51):
Well, I want to thank our first guest, Lance LaRusso,
who is leading attorney and founder of the Blue Line
Lawyer Institute. He talked to us about what the election
meant for law enforcement and gave us some real hope
that the tide has turned and that we are going
(02:00:14):
to see a better relationship I guess with our men
in blue. I'd also like to thank our guest, Judge
Phil Ginn, who is the president of the Southern Evangelical Seminary.
He wrote an article Why a thankful heart. It's the
(02:00:35):
key to genuine worship.
Speaker 1 (02:00:37):
But for right now, we are out of time. That
means we got to run and we gotta go. Take care, Godless,
We'll see you tomorrow and that's going to be on
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