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Speaker 1 (00:07):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome fellow plurbulls, welcome
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(00:28):
Rick Drador coming to you from the Mike Pillar studios
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and joining me today as my co host is the
president and CEO of Frontiers of Freedom, and that is
George Landrath. And George, welcome back, Welcome back to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
It's great to be here. This is the place to
be and I'm sure our viewers and listeners are glad
they're here as well.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Yeah, well, George, over this past weekend Saturday, it's be
effect all around the country, they say, in about two thousand,
five hundred locations. If you listen to the liberals, they
had these no kings, rellies and protest And I'll be
honest with you, George, you know this this has nothing

(01:14):
to do with anything except continued Trump derangement syndrome and
when they say no kings, what they want to say
is what they really mean is, let's get rid of
Donald Trump, all he stands for and anybody who supports him.
And for a minute, George, if we were to have
a king, I would want a king who loves America

(01:36):
as much as Donald Trump does. So give me that
kind of king and I'd be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Well, I find it very amusing that they, you know,
these no kings rallies, because on the one hand, they
act like Donald Trump's, this autocratic tyrant. And yet where
were they when, for example, Americans are being forced against
their will to buy health insurance under Brockle Obama and
the Affordable Care Act, which turned out to be big lie.

(02:03):
Everything about the Affordable character was lie. What did not
make it affordable? And you didn't get to keep your
health care if you liked it? So forth, or when
they were facing IRS penalties under him because the IRS
was being used to go after people who Barack Obama
didn't like. And then then where were they when Joe
Biden and liberal governors shut down businesses, arrested church goers,

(02:25):
imposed mask mandates, shut down schools for extended periods of time,
and demanded that unproven vaccines had to be taken or
you would lose your job and you'd lose your right
to travel. So my point is these people are not sincere.
They're fakers because if they were actually concerned about totalitarian efforts,

(02:47):
how about when Joe Biden and Barack Obama were working
to silence and use the power of government to take
away the freedom of speech and freedom of the press,
and yet they didn't say a word about it.

Speaker 1 (03:00):
A word.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
So these people are not serious. I'm not gonna listen
to them. I'm just gonna mock them and laugh at
them because they're basically lying. Sacks of running fecal matter,
and there it is, and there it is.

Speaker 1 (03:12):
Couldn't start off our week unless be that little Ryan
Lyons sacks of riding vehicle matter. Well, George, you are
absolutely right, George. Let's also have a king who puts
his personal wealth and name online. Let's have a king
who puts himself out there to be a target of assassination.

(03:33):
Let's have a king who would put himself up to
constant ridicule coming from the left. Let's have a king
who puts his own money, his own prestige, his own
reputation out there to make Washington and Capitol Hill beautiful again.
Let's have a king who will will go out of
his way to improve the White House. Let's have a

(03:56):
king who will put his own money on the line
to put up flagpoles at the White House, which, to
be honest with you, I didn't realize never existed until
Donald Trump. Let's have a king who wants to beautify
the White House, to expand it to include a ballroom
that he's not even going to be able to enjoy

(04:17):
because by the time that he's his term, by the
time this is built, his term is going to be over.
That's the kind of king I want, George Again, I
went a king who's going to put America first, who's
going to love America just like Donald J. Trump.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
Well, yeah, what I want as a president like that,
and that's what Donald Trump is. But one of the
things I find very ironic about these no King rallies,
and he really can't ignore this irony, and that is
that the first time they held them was in response
to Donald Trump's military parade, which commemorated the two hundred
and fiftieth anniversary of America's armed forces. The Continental Army

(04:57):
led by George Washington in the ultimate No King's Revolution,
and so it's it's interesting that they then, because he
has a parade to honor the original No Kings thing,
they decide, Oh, we don't like Donald Trump because he's
holding this military parade. And it's just like myself, these
are stupid people. They have low IQs because you know,

(05:22):
for example, they just play politics. They can see all
kinds of totalitarian efforts being done by Barack Obama and
by Joe Biden and by governors all of the country
during the pandemic, and they don't say a word. But
when Donald Trump decides that he wants to celebrate the
two hundred and fiftieth anniversary of the formation of the

(05:43):
Continental Army led by George Washington that led to America's
founding and its freedom, they're outraged. Okay, so tell us
you're a moron without using the word moron. Guess what
they win?

Speaker 1 (05:57):
They did it, No, guys, uh, they went they absolutely
George Is it befounds me. He follows me. What I
really want is what I really want from Donald Trump?
Is I want him. I went to the Justice Department,
Pam Bondy and the cash Betzell. I want them to

(06:19):
finally get to the bottom of who's funding these groups,
and I would who's funding the disturbances, who's funding the violence,
who's funding the Antifa, who's funding Black Lives Mattering, who's
fundering the No Kings rellies. Hey, you know what, George,
I'm all for freedom of speech. I wish the other
side was. I'm all for freedom of speech, but what

(06:44):
I'm not for is I'm not for these protests like
we're seeing in Portland and other places that are turning
very violent. George, That's where the line has been crossed.
That's where the line has been crossed. We need to
know who's funding these We need to shine a big
spotlight on them.

Speaker 2 (07:04):
Yeah, you're right. I mean, because if all you're doing
is gathering in town with signs saying you oppose X,
Y or Z, that's free speech. But when you start
attacking federal buildings, attacking federal officers, and the beating people
who have signs that don't agree with your signs, then
that's not free speech. That's criminal activity. I think it's

(07:26):
important to recognize when protesters rallied under the banner of
No Kings, it raises a serious question. Where was this
movement when America was being fined for not buying insurance
under Barack Obama? And where was it when church was
being shuttered? And where was that when businesses were being
destroyed and people were told you can't go to work.
If you go to work, you'll be fined and imprisoned,

(07:48):
and elderly people had to die by themselves without family
coming to visit them or spend their last moments with them,
et cetera. Why was it that they never spoke up?

Speaker 1 (07:59):
Then?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
How about when they said you can't have a gas
stove in your house.

Speaker 1 (08:04):
Mersay, And they continue to say it. They continue to
tell us what we have to buy, what we cannot buy,
what our limits are, where we can go, where we
can't go there. It happens each and every day, George.
But that's okay, that's all right. You know, you talk
about they talk about Obamacare, you talk about this government.

(08:28):
You can talk about this government shutdown. And this government
shutdown is all about two things, George. Number One, they
want more money for a failed system called Obamacare, the
Affordable Care Act. You remember that, George. They want more money.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
It's gotten so expensive it's driven prices through the ceiling,
and so as a result, they want subsidies to hide
that from Americans so that Americans don't feel like it's
as expensive as it is. So they're basically saying, let's
force the taxpayers to help us cover for Barack Obama's lives.

Speaker 1 (09:00):
They also want money to cover people that have come
into this country illegally, broken our laws, broken our borders
by coming in here illegally, and the American taxpayer has
been asked to do a lot. The American taxpayer right
now represents about forty seven percent of the country. Because

(09:22):
that's forty percent. Are the forty seven percent that actually
pay one hundred percent of the taxes. And you know,
we've been not just ask but these the government has
demanded that we support people cradle to grave with welfare,
with food stamps, with light heat, with free housing, with

(09:44):
free cell phones, and you can go on and on
and on and on, George. But now what they want
is they want those same advantages, those same doles, those
same paths, those same protections to illegal aliens. Again, people
that are broken our laws, people that are breaking our
laws to stay. You're people that are breaking our laws.

(10:07):
Each and every day to stay here through things like
identity theft. Identity theft because these people have to show
a Social Security number a lot of most of the
time they steal that security number from someone else. We
also have to pay for the many crimes that these
people are perpetrating. Beyond beyond identity theft, we could talk

(10:33):
about voter theft. It's believed that twenty percent of the
people that are here illegally have voted in our elections.
That is a violation of our law. But we're supposed
to step back. We're supposed to step back and say,
oh gee, that's okay. But when a president of the
United States wants to clean up the streets, wants to

(10:56):
clean the cities of all these gangs and criminals and drugs,
that's not enough, George. Now they're condemning Donald Trump from
stopping these smuggling boats full of fentyl and other drugs.
Now they're condemning him for stopping those boats and stopping

(11:17):
the individuals running those boats. You know, George, is like
the world has turned upside down these people.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Yeah, it's pretty amazing to me to watch kind of
the craziness they act like that stopping drug smugglers because
they're not just these are people. You know, you're smuggling
fentanyl into our country. That means you're working in cooperation
with China. And what are they trying to do? The
leading cause of death for those under forty and generally
your army is made up of people under forty is fentanyl.

(11:47):
And so China is working very hard to weaken America
and make it so that we are not in a
position to defend ourselves against them. And so they've got
these drug cartels working in coordination with them. And I'm
thinking to myself, if during World War Two the Nazis
have been had a program that was killing Americans, particularly

(12:09):
young Americans, would we have said, hey, you know, you
don't want to shoot that boat up because I mean,
you know, they haven't had a trial yet. It's like, well, one,
we know where we've been tracking where it came from,
we know what they're up to, we know what they're doing,
and two we have a right to defend ourselves. For example,
when we bombed Dresden, we didn't have a hearing to
determine if these individuals that might be hit by the

(12:33):
bomb were deserving of it. It was just a it's
just it's war. War is sometimes a little bit messy.
I understand that, but they like to pretend like everything
we have to have a trial, and it's not like, well, really,
that's interesting. I guess that means every war has violated
due process.

Speaker 1 (12:49):
Right, and I'm wondering how many people individuals like Barack Obama,
Joe o'biden, and Bill Clinton killed with their residential actions.
We're not going to talk about that, will be church.
I'll tell you what we'll I'll tell you what we
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Speaker 2 (18:28):
Well, let's see, there's a lot of my radar screen.
There's just you know, there's always lots of news in
the world. And one of the things that I think
is interesting is the Schumer shutdown continues to go on,
and we talked a little bit about the last segment,
but not much. But I think it's important to point
out that the House has already passed a clean continuing resolution,
which is just basically says, we'll continue the funding that

(18:50):
we have already in place, and we won't try to
use this as leverage to get our way. We'll have,
you know, we'll use the committee process, and we'll allow
that to happen in the upcoming months to figure out
what changes or reforms should be made. The Democrats are
demanding in the Senate because they have to get sixty votes,

(19:11):
and so since the Republicans only have fifty two or
fifty three, that means they need about seven or eight
Democrat votes to help them out to get a cloture.
And they're refusing. And the reason they're refusing is because
they want concessions to change the previous budgets. Because the
subsidies for Obamacare were supposed to be temper, they were

(19:36):
supposed they're expiring very shortly because they were passed with
a sunset provision during COVID, and it was supposedly argued
for that reason, but the real reason was Obamacare or
the Affordable Care Act, which is a lot like the
Inflation Reduction Act, in other words, a lie. The name

(19:57):
did the exact opposite of what Senate would do, is
and very expensive. It's driven costs up, and it's been
the exact opposite of the Affordable Care Act. It's been
the Unaffordable Care Act. And so Democrats don't want to
get criticized for that, So they're hoping to get the
government to make permanent subsidies so that you don't have
to pay the full amount and then you won't know

(20:18):
how bad Barack Obama and the Democrats lied to you.
And so it's just very interesting. That's why this shut
down continues. And Democrats like to pretend, oh, this is
Donald Trump's fault. Uh huh, yeah again, tell me you're
stupid without using the word stupid. You guys win when
you say that. It's just very clearly that they're trying

(20:38):
to prevent the American public from realizing, Oh, my goodness,
we already know some of the lies, like if you
like your healthcare, you can keep it, but then all
of a sudden you're gonna realize all the lies. The
whole thing was a lie. So I think it'd be
interesting to see what happens. I don't know how long
it'll last. I wish I could, you know, have a
crystal ball and could tell you, but it could go

(20:59):
another week or two or whatever. I think pressure will
continue to mount because I think the facts will eventually
start to catch up and the Democrats will start to
feel a certain amount of pressure, particularly if Donald Trump
can use some of the things that power gives them
when a government gets shut down. He has the ability
to start shutting certain parts of the government down, and
that might cause Democrats to go, oh, well, I guess

(21:21):
we shouldn't really be doing this. This is a bad idea.
So I don't know. It'd be interesting to see what happens.
But I just feel like when you look at a
bill that the left has named, I can guarantee you
if the bill is entitled the Free Speech Act, I
guarantee you it's not the Free Speech Act. It will
undermine free speech and prevent you from having free speech.
Because that's how the left plays this game. They name

(21:43):
things in a direct lie to what it's actually going
to do. The Inflation Reduction Act fueled inflation, did nothing
to prevent inflation, just made it worse, and the Affordable
Care Act made healthcare far less affordable. So bottom line
is America, wake up when the Democrats name it bill,

(22:03):
pay attention to what they've named it, because they will
use the name to deceive you.

Speaker 1 (22:08):
Well, George, when it comes to who is shutting down
the government? I said this last week, let's do the math.
Let's just do the simple math. Where every Republican save
for one, voted to keep the government open. Every Democrat
saved for three, voted to shut the shut the government down.

(22:29):
So who's shutting down the government? I would say the
Democrats did, because they voted by and large, you know,
like forty forty four of them said let's shut the
government down. So doing the math, it's just say it's
the government. And when you talk about the Affordable Care Act,

(22:50):
and George, you're right, it's anything but affordable. That was
forget keeping your doctor, forget keeping your insurance. It was
all about shutting down the aspects of private insurance that
we whatevery we want again, we want the government to
control all aspects of health care. And that's what this

(23:15):
qute unquote Affordable Care Act has been. As you said,
it's been anything but affordable. Now, what gets now, what's
really getting me about this government shutdown? George? Donald Trump
has found a way to pay the military while the
government is shut down. Do you know he's being the
suit because of that. Yeah, some of Donald Trump is

(23:37):
being sued because he found a way to pay the military,
to pay our military or our men and women in
uniform during this government shutdown, and the Left is suing
him because he's doing this. I mean, talk about a
crazy situation, George.

Speaker 2 (23:55):
There it is, well, I think what it demonstrates is
how desperately they want a full born shutdown, and they're
frustrated with him because he found a way to keep
at least the most important things like the military open
and running, because we live in a dangerous world and
it would be kind of dumb to, you know, turn
off our missile defense system and send all of those

(24:17):
who monitor to make sure we're in a safe situation
to just send them all home and say, yeah, sorry,
we don't need you right now. And he's just saying, no,
I know, we do need them right now, and we
need to pay them right now. Because the Thirteenth Amendment
makes it so you can't force people to work for
you for free, meaning slavery. And so he's just saying, yeah,

(24:38):
I don't want to force them to work for us.
I want they've signed up to work, and I want
to pay them for doing their work because we need them.
And so the Left is basically they're not jobs, and
they prove it every day they do.

Speaker 1 (24:52):
Indeed. I mean, when you think about our men and
women in the military, Georg, these are generally young people
eighteen nineteen, twenty twenty one. In some cases they are married,
in some cases they have kids. These aren't people that
have vast sums of savings that they can go to.

(25:16):
These are not really people who are established financially. They
depend upon their paycheck. My cousin, I have a cousin, George,
who was by the way, my uncle was in the
military when my cousin was born and throughout his younger
life up into his teenage years, all right, And my

(25:41):
cousin was born the day before since since my uncle
was in the army, my uncle, my cousin was born
day before the day payday, the day the government got
their checks or the military got the checks. I can
remember my cousins saying that he always had a wait

(26:04):
till the day after pay day, till to get a
present because my aunt and uncle, frankly, living on a
military salary, didn't have the money to buy my cousin
a birthday present until after my uncle got paid. I mean,
that's that's really hand him out, isn't it, George, isn't it?

(26:28):
And that's that's the way the vast majority of our
military is. They are living paycheck to paycheck.

Speaker 2 (26:38):
Yeah, they're not Elon Musk. I mean, he's got plenty
of money, so if he didn't pay him for a week,
he wouldn't even care, right, But yeah, it's it's important.
I find it very revealing what they don't like the
same thing it's also revealing is that is the cities
like Portland Chicago have lawlessness that they don't just tolerate
the lawlessness, they politically protect it. Violent mobs have attacked

(27:02):
federal facilities, assaulted ice agents, and targeted conservative journalists, and
instead of working with federal law enforcement to destore order,
local leaders have chosen confrontation over cooperation. In other words, no, no, no,
we don't we like crime, we like violence. Please don't interfere.
It's just like crazy, it's like, really, that's amazing to me.

(27:24):
Can you imagine, for example, in a world where say,
John F. Kennedy said something like that. I can't. For example,
John F. Kennedy sent in federal troops to Missouri to
guarantee the right of black college students at colleges in Missouri,
and so I'm thinking to myself, why did he do that?
Because he's a tyrant? No, Because people have constitutional rights

(27:49):
and if the state is failing to uphold those rights,
then it becomes the federal government's job to step in
and protect them. And that's true today, same thing in
nineteen five fifty seven with Dwight K. The Eysenhower. So
this is a bipartisan thing. You had a Republican and
a Democrat president who used federal troops to protect the

(28:11):
constitutional rights of citizens, and yet they act as if
it's outrageous, and it's just like, really, that's interesting. You
people are just nuts.

Speaker 1 (28:22):
Indeed they are. Well, George, that's going to break in.
On the other side of this break, we will be
doing our guest interviews with Stephanie Tow and Fred Lucas
here in The Conservative Commander's Radio Show with George Flanders
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Speaker 2 (32:17):
Absolutely, we have the very best guests on TV and radio. Well,
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before you know, going to Washington, he reported out of

(33:06):
state capitals in Kentucky and Connecticut. So Fredill, welcome back
to the Conservative Commandos. We're very glad to have you.

Speaker 9 (33:13):
And thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Absolutely I want to talk to you a little bit
about what's going on with the because I read an
article that you wrote that talks about the House Oversight
and Accountability Committee that's looking into the states that have
sanctuary policies, And if I could, I would just like
maybe to make an analogy. I'm just thinking if imagine

(33:36):
during World War Two, if the federal government had prohibited
Nazis from infiltrating the US because For example, they did
find some Nazi saboteurs and they were tried and executed
when they came ashore from a U boat and were
trying to do damage to the US's infrastructure. So, but
imagine if governors or mayors had declared their jurisdiction sanctuaries

(34:00):
for Nazi invaders. I'm thinking that would be kind of
like what And yet what we have is you know
m you know MS thirteen and other things there it's
a sanctuary. It's like, what that's crazy policy?

Speaker 9 (34:15):
Uh?

Speaker 10 (34:16):
Yeah, yeah, this is this is getting more ridiculous because
during the Bidy administration it was a it was almost
a sanctuary country for during the bide administration with the
open border policy or de facto open border policy that
the Biden administration had.

Speaker 5 (34:31):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (34:31):
Now you've got this uh.

Speaker 10 (34:33):
Governor's democratic governors and they're so interested in being the
resistance to Trump uh that effectively they've jumped into this,
uh adopting sanctuary policies.

Speaker 9 (34:46):
Particularly Pritzkery.

Speaker 10 (34:47):
He is leading this effort called the nonprofit organizations called
the Governor's Safeguarding Democracy, And from their perspective, that's resistance
to anything that Trump administration does.

Speaker 8 (34:59):
Uh.

Speaker 10 (35:00):
But you also do have As you mentioned, Tim Watts,
who we know is Kamala Harris's running mate, is among
the governors of his state. Minnesota has a sanctuary policy
for saying that we will not assist the federal government
and enforcing federal immigration laws.

Speaker 9 (35:18):
We will not assist ice or the border patrol in
deporting people.

Speaker 10 (35:24):
It's also that New York, New York State with kV Houltchel,
also has a similar policy.

Speaker 9 (35:32):
So, uh yeah, we're going to see these governors very likely.
They've been invited right now.

Speaker 10 (35:37):
It's not a subpoena, but they've been invited to testify
before the House Oversight Committee.

Speaker 9 (35:42):
We saw something back in March. We saw the something similar.
Mayors of New.

Speaker 10 (35:48):
York City, Chicago, Boston were there in front of Congress
testifying about their sanctuary city policies and why they're actually
making their citizens less safe.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
Very interesting to me because they say, there's that you know,
what is it. Pritzker wants to, you know, defend democracy
by I guess letting more fentanyl and criminals into the
United States. Thinking of myself, I'm confused, now does he
know what the word democracy even means? Because one, we're
not a democracy. We're we're essentially a democratic republic, and

(36:21):
so you know, so the but I just think it's
weird that even if you just accept the word democracy,
which of course, since I used to teach constitutional law,
I kind of want to say, wait a minute, let's
be more precise. But even with that word, how does
letting an MS thirteen and gang members and in some
cases from Venezuela, a bunch of people who are actually

(36:42):
here to create trouble in America with violence and destruction
of infrastructure and so forth, how does that protect democracy?

Speaker 11 (36:52):
Well?

Speaker 10 (36:52):
Are you think something it doesn't, because I think in
almost any locality you go to, I think probably even
in some of the bluest areas, most of the public
would be against that, perhaps from a lot of Democrats.
For people on the left would rather, uh bring in
as many people as possible and make them voters either

(37:13):
by hook or by crook.

Speaker 8 (37:15):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (37:15):
And from the prins curre perspective.

Speaker 10 (37:18):
That's Illinois at least, that's something that's been known to
happen in places like Chicago, where.

Speaker 9 (37:26):
Elections are kind of fast and loose sometimes. But but
but yeah, I mean this is right, right, right, Mayor
Daily of the old school.

Speaker 10 (37:36):
And but but I mean, this is a big problem
with I think in some sense you go back to
one of the more famous Democrats in our nation's history
is John C.

Speaker 9 (37:48):
Calhoun. He thought that the uh state.

Speaker 10 (37:52):
Governments should just be able to nullify h federal law
at will, and that's essentially what these modern day Democrats
are trying to do with immigration law.

Speaker 2 (38:01):
Yeah, it's interesting because I would argue that the idea
of federalism was that certain things should be state focused
and some are local focused, and some should be federally focused.
An example would be I think education is a good
example something should be more state and local focused, which
is why getting rid of the education Department is actually
within the bounds of what you would call this concept

(38:24):
of federalism. But national security has always been the pre
eminent responsibility the federal government, and while the states have
the right to defend themselves in the event of an invasion,
the concept was always that the nation as a whole
would defend its the nation. And so I'm find that
very curious as to do these people just not understand history?

(38:48):
Do they not understand reality? An example would be the
you know, there are people who say that President Trump
can't use the nineteen excuse me, seventeen ninety eight Alien
Act to get rid of a millions because we're not
at war. And they claimed that that was passed for that,
and it's like, well, these people are just tell me
you're stupid and don't know history without telling me you're

(39:09):
stupid and don't know history. Because that law was passed
when we were concerned about France. It was called the
quasi war. In other words, it wasn't a real war.
There was no actual military action going on. We were
just having disputes with France. Kind of odd given the
fact that helped us win the American revolutionarly a few
years earlier. And so we passed this law and we

(39:32):
used it at that time there was no declared war
and no even undeclared war with France, and it was used.
And then, of course Harry Truman used it after World
War Two was over, two years after it was over,
nineteen forty seven, and he was deporting people that he
considered to be dangerous because perhaps they were Nazi sympathizers

(39:53):
and they were, you know whatever. But the point is
there was no war and he sent them away. It
went to court and they US Supreme Court said, yeah,
he can do that, and so all of a sudden,
now though Donald Trump can only do it if there's
a declared war, and I'm thinking to myself, these people
are just stupid.

Speaker 10 (40:13):
Well, well, there is something, I mean, a concept that
was thrown out their Trump Law, which was which is
a term that apparently there's a different standard applied when
it's Trump because the left believes him to be an
imminent danger on really everything, and therefore if he just
I think he could almost sign a law and acted

(40:35):
by Congress and they would consider that to be a
danger to the Constitution in some way. But yeah, I
mean he's simply applying, in this case, applying a law.

Speaker 8 (40:45):
Yeah.

Speaker 10 (40:45):
I mean, granted, maybe it's not been applied that often,
but yeah, as you said, it's been applied during peacetime.

Speaker 9 (40:52):
It was it became a law during peace.

Speaker 10 (40:54):
Time, So I mean, yeah, there's no way you can
say it's a wartime act. And I think, I mean,
these these gangs that are bringing fitting on into the country,
that are enacting violence, I mean, I think you can
make a strong argument that they're every bit as much
of a threat to Americans as a terrorist organization, and

(41:15):
I don't think anyone would necessarily raise.

Speaker 9 (41:19):
The same concerns if we were applying this to.

Speaker 10 (41:23):
If supposedly, supposely an ISIS cell infiltrated the country.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Yeah, that's a very good point. I mean, we've had
millions of Americans who died from fentnyl poisoning. And then
of course there's the violence that we've seen around the country.
It's makes the newspapers almost every week, like the Lake
and Riley's and others. You know that, And so I'm
thinking to myself, there were no Nazi saboteurs that had

(41:51):
that track record. In fact, I'm not aware that any
Nazi sabateurs came to American killed a single American. And
yet people are acting as if somehow this is an
attack on democracy, and I just kind of want to
scratch my head and go millions of people, that's a
lot more people than died, for example, in most wars
we fought in. I'm trying to think of the I

(42:11):
think that the World War two we had about six
hundred to seven hundred thousand fatalities if I recall correctly.

Speaker 10 (42:19):
Even the Civil War, which we had the largest number
of casualties, ever, and that was freer than a million.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
Yeah, And so I'm thinking to myself, this is just
kind of amazing to me that they're acting like this
is just no big deal, This is no problem, and
why are we worrying about it? So I wanted to
ask if you have any insights, because I know you've
done research around this is what they're talking about. Why
would Pritzker and the other two what was it, Kathy
Hotchell and Tim Walls, Yeah, Tampa on Tim, Why would

(42:49):
they be so anti American? I mean, I think this
might be proof that these people don't actually cherish or
love America, and that what they love is power in
the authority, and they'll do whatever they can to obtain
said power and authority, and they'll harm as many Americans
as possible once they've got it.

Speaker 10 (43:08):
Well, I think some of it is on some level
to be Trump derangement syndrome. Not to over use that term,
but I mean this is particularly with Prisker. He's he's
the head of the coach chair along with Jared Paulus
out of uh Colorado, the co chair of the organization
Governor's Safeguarding Democracy UH, which which includes most democratic governors

(43:31):
in the country, uh, including Hoachel and Tim Watts.

Speaker 9 (43:36):
But uh yeah, I mean much of this is just
anti trump Ism.

Speaker 10 (43:39):
Uh And and I think that they believe that they
can rally their base behind them on on virtually any issue.

Speaker 9 (43:48):
And this being one of those.

Speaker 10 (43:50):
And and and in particular, they're they're going to come
out of arguments.

Speaker 9 (43:54):
Of like maybe one or two peaceful you know, anecdotal
issues of a.

Speaker 10 (44:01):
Peaceful illegal immigrant who was or they're going to say
an undocumented immigrant who was living in their state and
was deported. And they're going to say, what was the
point in that? And they're going to know, are the
issues before you talking about the the Thirteen, the other
gangs that have been in the country, and then the Feinnel.

Speaker 9 (44:21):
Deaths and so forth.

Speaker 2 (44:23):
Yeah, it's kind of interesting that they do this, and
it's but I also find it curious because I think
I've seen polling that suggests that Americans of all political
parties support the idea of deporting these violent criminals from
our country. Yeah, and so I'm trying to figure out
why do they think that they're making a point that's

(44:44):
going to be successful and helpful, because it seems like
America's kind of tired of the last four years we've seen.
I know that before four years ago, the average American
wasn't for that because they hadn't experienced all of the
harm and damage, and you know, but now they have.
Like the citizens of Chicago are sick to death of

(45:05):
the idea that their children can't go to schools anymore
because their schools have been shut down and the community
center has been shut down so they can make room
to house illegal aliens. And they're worried about the jobs
that they may be losing and the wages that are
being suppressed and so forth. And so this is not
a partisan issue. You don't have to be a Trump

(45:26):
supporter to say I don't want all this going on.
And I think polling suggests that what say you.

Speaker 10 (45:31):
Yeah, the Biden administration or the Biden Harris administration of
that man or did as much as anyone to really
unify the country behind Trump's position on immigration and taking
a strong stance on and let's be clear, Trump's enforcing
existing law. I think maybe if Trump makes has made
a mistake rhetorically. He said that was in saying that

(45:55):
you don't need new laws, you just needed a new.

Speaker 9 (45:58):
President to enforce the word. Well, the fact is you
didn't need a new law.

Speaker 10 (46:03):
I used need to a president who was going to
actually enforce existing law that's always been there, that was
there while Biden was president, and really going back to
while other presidents were in office, Republican and Democrat, and
they weren't enforcing that law, those immigration laws either.

Speaker 9 (46:21):
But yeah, and it just got.

Speaker 10 (46:23):
Horribly worse under Biden, who just reversed every security measure
Trump made, really largely out of spy Biden was so
much worse on the border than Obama, and that showed.
And I think that they're just like having the facto
open border policy. Uh and then on top of that

(46:44):
making Kamala Harris.

Speaker 9 (46:45):
The borders are just totally shifted public opinion over a
four year period.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, that's the truth. That's a great place for us
to take a quick break. Folks, don't go away, because
the Conservative command is a rich trader and George Landreth
and our special guest Fred Lucas will be right back.
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And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders Radio
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Speaker 9 (51:01):
Be with you.

Speaker 1 (51:02):
May the Force be with you, George. And I want
to thank our guests for sticking with this and as
Fred Lucas. Fred Lucas is an investigative reporter at the
Daily Signal, and we're discussing, uh well, his article that
he wrote, the House Oversight calls for Waltz, Hockle and
Pritscocal to testify on sectuary policies. But Fred, I wanted

(51:26):
to start out this this little segment by giving you
an opportunity to show your book and tell our audience
a little bit about it.

Speaker 9 (51:36):
Oh yeah, this is the myth of voter suppression. It's
uh shut some.

Speaker 10 (51:41):
It's a fact check basically on everything that the Democrats
say whenever there's an election integrity proposal out there. I
did talk about in the last segment about how Democrats
have tried to push for illegal immigrants to vote when possible.

Speaker 9 (51:56):
Uh And and that's something that's documented in the book.

Speaker 10 (52:00):
Actual examples that have been non conspiracy theories, just adjudicated
cases that have been in court that have been proven
a voter fraud. That is something that is provable what's
not provable is Democrats' claims of mass voter suppression, or
really almost any voter suppression, because I'm talking about modern times,

(52:21):
when I'm not talking about the nineteen fifties or sixties.

Speaker 9 (52:25):
Because when Democrats have tried to say.

Speaker 10 (52:28):
A voter, any voter id law, or any trying to
remove dead people from the voter registration roles amounts to
voter suppression, They've not been able to come up with
a single individual or plaintiff who was able to say,
I'm an eligible voter and I was denied the right
to vote. So that's if you want to arm yourself

(52:50):
with the facts on election integrity matters, please check out
the book The Myth of Voter Suppression.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
All right, Fred, Hey, Fred, I want to talk with
you in a little bit about our everybody's favorite anymore.
I say that tongue in cheek, Jasmine Crockett, But you
and George for talking about I'll service sight calling for
Wallsack and fiscal to testify. And in your article you
write Donald Trump has starting to cut off federal funding

(53:19):
too sanctuary cities. How much would that hurt these states?

Speaker 10 (53:25):
Yeah, it could potentially me harm them economically. Particularly with
their I guess their social services aren't even the type
of giveaways that they want to do in terms of
setting up their own economic development. If they want to
do tax giveaway, some federal money.

Speaker 9 (53:44):
Would compensate for that.

Speaker 10 (53:46):
So I think we're going to see from that sense,
this is not something that the public wants. Anyway, These
policies of the sanctuary policies are not something in the
public even in these blue states want. And I think
if federal money, if by the own actions of the
governors and mayors, federal money is withdrawn from these cities

(54:09):
and states, I think we're going to see a lot
of public pressure put on these Democrats, even from their
very liberal leaning constituents that I mean, why why is
this your heel to dieal.

Speaker 1 (54:23):
So Fredy Also, you also read another article I wanted
to talk about that involving Jasmine Crockett, and she might
be in trouble with the FEC. We walk us through.

Speaker 9 (54:35):
That, Yeah, sure thing.

Speaker 11 (54:37):
Uh the the Coolidge Reagan Foundation, which I watch dog
group filed an FEC complaint pointing out the some suspect
donations that she received in the last election cycle.

Speaker 1 (54:53):
Uh.

Speaker 9 (54:53):
And and they came through the Act Blue Portal.

Speaker 10 (54:56):
Now, the UH situation with Act Blue has already been
an issue. They've been under investigation from state attorneys.

Speaker 1 (55:02):
General stop for explain what Act Blue is.

Speaker 10 (55:07):
Oh, yes, yeah, I Blue is this powerhouse democratic fundraising organization.
Uh and and they bring in millions of dollars a
lot of us in small donations, but sometimes it's big
donations as well. Uh And and they've come under scrutiny for
really not vetting any of these donors and whether they're
the people who make these donations are who they say

(55:29):
they are uh and and more recently they've come under
investigation from both states attorneys general and from Congress UH
as to UH whether they're these are straw donors in
some cases people uh and and particularly with Jasmine Crockett,
there was one donor that UH was found to have

(55:51):
his wife at least said that uh she she had
no ideal where these thousands of dollars have come from,
uh from her spend to Jasmine Crockett's campaign. And this
is and and there are several Act Blue donations from outside.

Speaker 9 (56:06):
The district and so forth.

Speaker 10 (56:08):
So this organization has filed a complaint against Jasmine Crockett,
who has majors, have quite a celebrity who's sort of
a rising star, uh and the Democratic Party, and she's
adored by a lot of a lot of people on
the far left.

Speaker 9 (56:25):
So uh.

Speaker 10 (56:26):
And this has gotten some attention from in the sense
that she has gone after Republicans so much and and
now it looks like that she might be uh in
the center of her own controversy.

Speaker 2 (56:40):
Well, Fred, that's a very interesting analysis and I think
you make a lot of sense there. I wanted to
ask you because our times about up, but I wanted
to ask you to give us some tell us about
You've written a great book. So do you have that
with you? Can you show us and tell us where
to find it and what it's about?

Speaker 9 (56:56):
And yeah, yeah, yeah, again the myth voter suppression. Please
check it out. Uh, it's you know, Amazon, Bars and
Noble where you buy books.

Speaker 2 (57:07):
Sounds good and.

Speaker 9 (57:08):
It's got an endorsement from Mark Levin and a few
other folks.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
So excellent. And tell us about the Daily Signal.

Speaker 9 (57:17):
Yeah, the Daily Signal. We're a new site you can
get Daily Signal dot com.

Speaker 10 (57:22):
And got a lot of great reporters and a lot
of great opinion and analysis on there, so I hope
you'll check that out.

Speaker 2 (57:29):
Absolutely, and uh yeah, and then and they it's a
it's a it's a publication that focuses on things that are,
you know, really matter. I've always been impressed with the
fact that they don't necessarily think that what they have
to do is print all the lies that you see
in the New York Times for example, Right, and uh so,

(57:52):
So it's my point is you don't have to wade
through and figure out, you know, is one out of
ten articles good? Everything at the Daily Signal is good.

Speaker 9 (58:00):
Oh well, thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, we're very
policy focused needs outlets.

Speaker 2 (58:04):
So absolutely, well, thank you so much. Fred. We really
appreciate the fact that you spent time with us today
and enlightened not only Rick and I but our viewers
and our listeners.

Speaker 9 (58:14):
All right, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (58:16):
Absolutely, folks, don't go away, because we will just take
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Speaker 1 (01:01:29):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos with
George Landreth and I'm Rick Trader coming to you from
the Myke Pillar Studios and my Stewart Studios of the
au n TV Network. Hey, George, our next guest is
with us, and please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (01:01:45):
I'm very happy to do that because we always have
the best guests to do a great job of lining
up the best guests on TV and radio, and we
have Stephanie Taub here to prove that she serves as
the senior Council with First Liberty Institute, and they focus,
of course, primarily on things like religious liberty. And I
think that's a pretty important thing. After all, it made

(01:02:07):
it in the First Amendment, which I would suggest suggest
our founders saw that as a very high priority. It
didn't make it in that fifty second Amendment, it was
the first one. And so at First Liberty she advocates
for rights of employees and business leaders of faith to
work with integrity and consistent with their religious convictions, because

(01:02:28):
those who hate religion and who hate faith would like
very much to make it hard for people of faith
to operate with freedom and opportunity. And Stephanie has authored
pieces that have been published by a National Review and
the Federal Society, and also has appeared on Fox News
and the Texas Review of Law and Politics published her

(01:02:50):
article on federal employment law protections for faith based employers,
and so she is a really good source on these important,
what you would call high priority First Amendment rights. So, Stephanie,
welcome to the Conservative Commandos. We're very glad to have you.

Speaker 16 (01:03:08):
Thank you so much for having me on your show.

Speaker 2 (01:03:11):
I used to teach constitutional law at George Mason and
I went to the University of Virginia law school and
so forth, and I kind of find it weird that
people seem not to grasp that the Constitution laid out
some very important inaliable rights, as Jefferson referred to them,
and that those enalable rights are not up for a vote.

(01:03:32):
We vote in our society and all kinds of things.
We vote on policy questions and things like that, But
what we don't vote on is our enalable rights. In
other words, your right to free speech, your right to
freedom of religion, your right, for example, to a fair trial.
Those are things that are not subject to votes. And
that's what makes us a very special place. And yet

(01:03:53):
some people act like, well, it's not very democratic. It's
kind of like, well, actually, our founders wanted to make
sure that we were put a bigger emphasis on freedom,
and so we weren't going to vote on whether or
not the church you choose to go to, or whether
you choose to go to church or not go to
church is an acceptable choice by the majority. So I

(01:04:15):
want to ask you to help fill us in on
all this because I think the Trump administration has signaled
to us that it's a pro First Amendment pro religious
freedom administration.

Speaker 16 (01:04:28):
That is absolutely right and very well put.

Speaker 17 (01:04:31):
One of the wonderful things about the Trump administration is
that they are really cracking down on DEI initiatives, and
especially the DEI initiatives that have gone so far as
to violate our rights, not only our constitutional rights, but
also our statutory rights, because it's very important that the

(01:04:53):
Constitution isn't our only protection for our religious liberty.

Speaker 16 (01:04:58):
We also have the federal law protects us.

Speaker 17 (01:05:01):
From religious discrimination in employment, for example, and so what
we're seeing is companies across the countries using these DEI
initiatives to crack down on employees of faith who might
have different perspectives on controversial issues these days. And so

(01:05:22):
it's really encouraging to see the Trump administration respecting religious
liberty and cracking down on these illegal uses of these policies.

Speaker 2 (01:05:32):
That's very interesting because when you hear the left talk
about DEI, they make it sound like they're trying to
promote constitutional freedoms and liberties and make sure we get
rid of things that are unfair. And yet I think
that's clearly not the case, because they're promoting you like,
as you said, it sounds like DII initiatives in some
case actually go after people who have faith and that's

(01:05:55):
a part of their life, and instead of being tolerant
of them, it basically says, yeah, we're not going to tolerating that,
We're going to punish you for your faith. And so
is that fair? Am I mischaracterizing it? Yeah?

Speaker 16 (01:06:07):
I think it can depend on the company, but I
think that's fair.

Speaker 17 (01:06:10):
We've definitely seen that these sorts of policies can come
with sometimes embrace of radical gender ideology, for example, that
can conflict with quite a few people's as people of faith.
They're religious convictions, and so companies need to remember that
they have an obligation obligation under the law to respect

(01:06:32):
employees of faith and to grant reasonable religious accommodations were required.

Speaker 2 (01:06:37):
I wanted to ask you about this one because I've
seen that, you know, several states have tried to pass
laws and I think they just recently did in Colorado,
which basically, if you're if you have a child who
tells you they think they're, you know, the other gender
than what they were born as, if you don't go
along with that, then they will take away your primal

(01:06:57):
rights and remove the child from your home. And so forth,
And I'm thinking myself, that strikes me as blatantly unconstitutional,
and that strikes me as something that to be very blunt.
If some were to show up at my house claiming
they're going to take my child from me because I
didn't go with the he she thing, I think I
would actually be prepared to defend my child and my

(01:07:20):
family because them coming in and saying that they're gonna
take my child. It's kind of like in Nazi Germany
if someone if a Nazi came to my house and said,
I understand that you don't hate Jews enough, so we're
taking your kids from you, I'd be like, sorry, come
back later. And so I'm trying to figure out is
what's going on with this because this is just nuts.

(01:07:41):
It's like, how is it that we can live in
a society where people want to basically tell parents, we
can take your children from you because we don't like
your faith based way of seeing the world.

Speaker 17 (01:07:53):
There are so many issues right now in this in
this area, with these conflicts we're unfortunately the Supreme Court
has taken up some similar not quite that case, but
some similar cases having to do with parental rights when
it comes to educating, educating children, when it comes to receiving, counseling,

(01:08:14):
those those sorts of very important issues. So we're hopeful
that the Supreme Court will grant positive precedents that will
help restore religious liberty, help restore freedom of speech in
these really crucial areas.

Speaker 16 (01:08:28):
So it doesn't come to any of any of So doesn't.

Speaker 2 (01:08:31):
Come to that, well, I agree, because I don't want
to sound like I'm supporting or interested in seeing violence happen,
because I'm not. I'm just saying though, that I do
think that there's a point at which and I think
it's part of our founders recognize that one of the
things you wanted to do was make sure that totalitarians

(01:08:52):
understood that they might have to confront people who would
be in a position to push back at them. And
I think it's important that, as you know, people who
believe in freedom and opportunity, that when government tries to
take our freedom, we do have to push back. And
hopefully we can just push back at the ballot box.
That's what I would hope. But you know, if I'd

(01:09:13):
lived in Germany during World War Two, that wasn't going
to work. And so you know, if I lived in Germany,
I'd have been very happy to use violence to stop
the Nazis from rounding up all the people they hated
and wanted to kill, because at some point I'd be like,

(01:09:34):
I'm not going to participate in this, and I don't
care if the government claims it's legitimate. If it's doing this,
it's not.

Speaker 17 (01:09:42):
And I mean, as you said earlier in the segment,
that there is a reason why religious liberty is our
first liberty in the in the Bill of Rights. This
is a really this is foundational, the right to be
able to worship and to live in accordance with your faith,

(01:10:02):
consistent with your convictions. And if you have a government
that's routinely oppressing people, routinely calling on people to violate
their most deeply held tenants, this is unsustainable. And so
this is the reason why freedom of speech freedom of
religion are so crucial, and in governments that eventually fall

(01:10:26):
or become totalitarian, freedom of religion is usually the first
to fall.

Speaker 2 (01:10:32):
Yeah, and freedom of speech are exactly right, because if
you're totalitarian, you don't want people to have the ability
to think on their own. And that people who love
big government don't like people of faith, because people of
faith generally put God first, not government first, and people
who believe in big government want government first in all instances.

(01:10:54):
And you saw that, for example, in communist China, you
saw that in communist Russia. So the Union, you've seen
that in. You know, in every totalitarian regime sees religion
as something that stands between them and power. And I
would say the same thing with free speech. So you
make a very very good point, and I'm glad that

(01:11:16):
you're a champion of freedom and a champion of the
First Amendment because we need more of those nowadays. Didn't
used to be like this. This used to be something
that everybody agreed on. It used to be that left
and right agreed on things like freedom of speech, freedom
of religion, etc. And something has happened in the last
generation where that's no longer the case, and it worries me.

Speaker 17 (01:11:38):
Yeah, you see some statistics when they pull I don't
have them off the top of my head, but pulling
some of the generation z about freedom of speech issues,
and they're a lot more in favor of censorship than
I would have ever guessed, and that really is scary.
But there have been some positive signs too, maybe your

(01:12:00):
resurgence of faith or a resurgence in the generation that's
coming after them. So we're in in generation see and
hopefully the generation that's coming after them. So we'll see,
we'll see.

Speaker 2 (01:12:13):
Yeah, well that's a great place where you take a
quick break. We'll handle a little bit of business here, folks,
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Speaker 1 (01:15:25):
Now, Welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commanders with
George Landruth and I'm Rick Trader, coming to you from
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a u n TV network. Our guest's segment is Stephanie Tabbs.
She's the senior counselor with First Liberty Institute. Stephanie, thank

(01:15:45):
you for holding through that break. We really do appreciate
your time. Now, you've read an article that's appeared on
I Believe on the Hill, and in this article you
talk about a case that First Liberty is involved with
with two employees of Alaskan Airlines who lost their jobs

(01:16:06):
lost their jobs because they stood up to their company.
Could you explain that case for us please? Yeah.

Speaker 17 (01:16:15):
So we represent Lazy Smith and Marley Brown, two exceptional
flight attendants who used to work for Alaskan Airlines. But
when Alaskan Airlines put up a post on their internal
company website about how Alaska supports that proposed a quality
Act are my clients Marley and Lacey, they posted one

(01:16:40):
comment each just respectfully expressing their Christian beliefs. One of
them asked, as a company, do you think it's possible.

Speaker 16 (01:16:49):
To regulate morality?

Speaker 17 (01:16:51):
And the other one asked about the implications on religious freedom,
on the church and in particular on women's spaces when
they're being opened up by the by the Potential Equality Act.
And so because of these two comments, they were investigated,
they were.

Speaker 16 (01:17:08):
Suspended, and then they were ultimately fired.

Speaker 1 (01:17:11):
Did they get to process within the company that was
there a hearing did this. I know you're first celebrity
as representing them, but was it that cut and dry? Look,
you put up these posts. We didn't like it. It doesn't
follow what this company is looking to do here with
DEI and you're gone, ladies.

Speaker 16 (01:17:32):
I mean it strikes me as that cut and dry.

Speaker 17 (01:17:35):
We have the US a great question about due process,
So we have the We all were also assuming the
union that was supposed to be representing Marley and Lacy,
the union president reported them to the company.

Speaker 16 (01:17:51):
But this is these are union.

Speaker 1 (01:17:54):
As you say, I'm sorry, it didn't mean to an interrupt.
I was you shocked that the union, who is who
they paid dues to, that they are members of, who's
supposed to represent their best interests, reported them to the company.

Speaker 16 (01:18:09):
Yes, yeah, that's absolutely right.

Speaker 17 (01:18:11):
So the union reported them to the company, and then
on the day they're fired, they published an article saying
that employees can't use your protected class as a basis
to discriminate. So very very thinly veiled comments advocating against
against Marley and Lacy on even when they're supposed to

(01:18:31):
be still in the process of representing them before their
grievance so it's not only the company, it's also the
union that are engaging in religious discrimination.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Here.

Speaker 1 (01:18:42):
What is Lacey and Marlee looking to get out of it?
Are they looking for a financial settlement? Are they looking
for their jobs back? Are they looking to set a
standard for other employees? What are the goals?

Speaker 17 (01:18:58):
It's about the principle of the thing. So this is
what they've gone through. No one else should have to
go through, and it had. It was a devastating effect
on our clients, their health, their ability to continue, and
it's still difficult to this day.

Speaker 16 (01:19:16):
So this is a So this is a they're standing
up not only.

Speaker 17 (01:19:23):
For themselves, but also for other employees across the country
that are facing similar situations. So right now we're currently
on appeal at the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and
hopefully we'll get a positive outcome that says that these
companies cannot discriminate against you. They can't fire you simply
for holding traditional Christian or religious beliefs on these sorts

(01:19:46):
of issues. This seems to me to be blatant, blatant
religious discrimination.

Speaker 1 (01:19:52):
Sephanie said, it's under appeal, So is there already one trial?
The other thing that you mentioned that makes my eyes
roll is the nice Circuit.

Speaker 17 (01:20:05):
Yes, so time circuit is over California, it's over Washington,
it's over the West coast, and it does have quite
a reputation there there are so it does. It does
depend quite a lot on what judges you get for Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
Yeah, that's unfair. I'll tell you what else is unfair
in Stephanie. If I'm looking at this right, if I'm
reading it correctly, this all took place in two thousand
and twenty twenty one, so that's like four years ago.
What are these two? What's Marley and stays a Lacy?

(01:20:43):
What have they been doing in the past four years?

Speaker 17 (01:20:47):
So one of them has moved to an airline that
is more respectful of her religious freedom, which is wonderful.
So she's a flight still a flight attendant, and the
other is currently a mom.

Speaker 1 (01:20:59):
Well, you know, Stephanie, I know you gotta go. We
have you have to leave it shortly. But it's what
really bothers me is this idea of separate separation of
church and state. We here on the au N TV
network have been running a short video from the Wall

(01:21:23):
Builders where they talked about the first Bible in America
was was sponsored help sponsored by Congress to get Bibles
in school. And for years, for decades, we've been having
this argument about separation of church and state. And I'm

(01:21:47):
wondering if you had any comment on that.

Speaker 17 (01:21:51):
Yeah, So we do see that phrase being misused, unfortunately,
and used too often to justify Sometimes government officials mistakenly
think that they need to censor any sort of mention
of religion in the public square, and so that can
lead them to go way too far and to infringe

(01:22:11):
on free exercise rights of teachers, of students, of employees.
And so we do see that all the time from
just this mistaken understanding because the as you I'm sure
you know, that letter comes from a letter from Jefferson
to the Danbury Baptist Church, and where there Jefferson was

(01:22:33):
encouraging the church and saying, no, the government's not going
to come and invade your sacred space. But here it's
being twisted to be somehow a requirement to scrub the
public sphere from anything that's religious.

Speaker 16 (01:22:50):
And so that's unfortunate.

Speaker 17 (01:22:52):
But we are seeing good outcomes in the Supreme Court
correcting in this understanding.

Speaker 16 (01:22:58):
It might take some time.

Speaker 17 (01:22:59):
To filter through the lower courts and popular understanding, but
we are seeing positive developments.

Speaker 1 (01:23:05):
Stephanie Teal, senior counsel with First Liberty is to Stephanie.
We want to thank you for joining us today. But
before you go, please tell our listeners and viewers how
they can follow the work of the First Liberty Institute
and find out more about this case.

Speaker 17 (01:23:24):
Yes, you can follow this case and all of our
other cases at firstliberty dot org.

Speaker 1 (01:23:30):
Firstliberty dot org. Again, Stephanie, thank you so much for
joining us. Take care, God bless and you are listening
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Speaker 2 (01:30:39):
Well, sure I do. It's interesting to see the elections
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They might not be interesting the rest of the country,
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record and public statements that are well known now at

(01:31:44):
least during the campaign that show that she has a
leftist agenda and that she aligns with California's Gavin Newsom
and political leftists like AOC, then with Virginians, and so
it'd be very interesting to see because example would be
she's consistently opposed legislation that would aim at protecting communities
from violent criminals who are illegally in the country. She

(01:32:09):
voted against the Detain and deport Illegal Aliens who Assault
Cops Act. I think you can know what the bill
would have done. She also posed the No Bailout for
Sanctuary Cities Act, meaning if you're a sanctuary city, you
don't get extra money. And she voted against the Lake
and Riley Act, which was a young woman who was
raped and killed by an illegal alien, and it said

(01:32:30):
that we're going to deport illegal aliens who rape and
kill Americans. She voted against all of this. And she
says she wants to make Virginia sanctuary state. So in
other words, she hates Virginians, but she wants to protect
violent criminals from other countries, so you know. And then
on top of that, she's been saying things many times

(01:32:51):
now where she talks about let rage fuel you to
her supporters, let rage fuel you. And it's like, that's interesting.
She seemed to be promoting violence, particularly given the fact
that the Attorney general candidate is one who talked, who
is tweeted about or texted about, and on phones talked

(01:33:12):
about wanting to kill his opponents in the legislature, and
not just to kill his opponents, but to kill their
children as well, in the arms of their mother. And
I'm thinking to myself, and her response is, well, I
don't approve of that, but he's a good guy and
I think, you know, you should certainly vote for him,
and I'm not going to ask him to get out

(01:33:33):
of the race. It's like okay. And then she goes
around saying let fuel let rage fuel you. It's like okay.
And then and then also when it comes to bathrooms,
there's a forty year old man who was a sexual
predator who claims he's a woman and goes into high
school bathrooms and locker rooms, and yet she supportive of

(01:33:54):
that and says that should be protected because she wants
to be inclusive about like not having our daughters at
risk from forty year old predators. So basically, Abigail Spanberger
is a left wing kook who lies to you and
acts like, oh, yeah, I'm a moderate.

Speaker 7 (01:34:16):
M hm.

Speaker 2 (01:34:17):
Remember Joe Biden told us that too, right, right, that's
the that's their game.

Speaker 1 (01:34:22):
Church. When you're talking about Spamberger in Virginia, I could
say a lot of similar things about Mikey Scheryl in
New Jersey. Now, Mikey Scheryl is a Democrat congresswoman. She
serves on Capitol Hill she's voted for every bad policy,
every bad bit of spending in the Joe o'biden administrations. Now,

(01:34:47):
this woman has been in Congress for about six years,
but during the maybe seven now, but during those six
or seven years, her net wealth has increased by about
seven or eight million dollars. Now, she says it's their
husband's investments, but a lot of their their investments were

(01:35:10):
made in defense stocks. Where she was she was on
the House Appropriate Defense Appropriations Committee. Uh, she's for these
policies of letting men participate in women's sports. She's for
these policies. It's saying, let men go in women's bathrooms

(01:35:34):
as long as they quote unquote identify as a woman.
For today, George, there is there is a high school
in the state of New Jersey that had a policy
of cat litter boxes in the bathrooms. Do you want
to know what those cat litter box in the bathrooms

(01:35:55):
were for, George.

Speaker 2 (01:35:57):
I'm as sidious for people identified as cats.

Speaker 1 (01:36:00):
Exactly, exactly. And it was only recently, only recently, that
some of these high schools have reversed their policies and
pulled these cat litter boxes out of the student's bathrooms.
I kid you not, And if I didn't want to
get sued, I'd tell you exactly what those districts are,

(01:36:23):
all right, because they refused to admit these districts, the
boards of educations refused to admit that was their policy.
Mickey Cheryl has gotten thousands and thousands of dollars in
campaign contributions from the Chinese Communist Party and people that

(01:36:46):
are closely associated with the Chinese Communist parties. Mikey Cheryl
was implicated in a cheating scandal at the US Naval
Academy where she was refused permission to walk with their class.
She did graduate, but his punishment, she was not allowed

(01:37:09):
to walk with her class and graduation. By the way,
her husband was also implicated in this cheating scandal. And
by the way, something else that Mickey Cheryl did that
I think should make any candidate non electable issue lied.
She lied about her military rank. George, that's stolen valor.

Speaker 2 (01:37:35):
So when need to talk to that dem across the
all the time Governor Moore, Sheldon Whitehouse did that about
in Vietnam service and things. Why is it that these
guys play the game of stolen valor constantly? At some
point we need to basically say you do that, We're
done with you.

Speaker 5 (01:37:54):
Now.

Speaker 1 (01:37:54):
Nothing about Mickey Sheryl. Mickey Scheryl voted for every energy
policy coming out of Washington, d C. And in the
state of New Jersey, the electricity rates have gone up
over forty percent in the last two years. Now, why

(01:38:15):
has that happened? Because the State of New Jersey shut
down eight power stations that were gas, coal or oil.
Eight power stations they shut down. They also shut down
the Oyster Creek nuclear power plant. So now the state
of New Jersey has to get forty percent of its

(01:38:36):
energy from neighboring states. And why did they do it?
Because they wanted to push everybody into wind and solar. Well,
these policies are the policies of Mikey Scharrel. And by
the way, she's pledged. She's pledged on day one, George,
what she's going to do after the rates have gone

(01:38:57):
up forty percent on day one, She's going to freeze
those rates? George. Wow, what a gift, What a gift
to the ratepayers of New Jersey. You know, when you
talk about Spamberger, George, we got our own Spamberger here
in New Jersey. Her name is Mikey Cheryl.

Speaker 2 (01:39:17):
Yeah. Well that's the way the left works, that's the
way they left, you know, because Joe Biden pretended to
be a moderate when he ran for president. There was
nothing moderate about his presidency at all. And that's just
you know, that's how they play the game. And then
you know, did you have a newsom tell everyone, by
the way, I'm a left wing communist kook and I'm
going to destroy California, so vote for me. No, Democrats

(01:39:41):
don't tell the truth. They lie through their teeth.

Speaker 1 (01:39:44):
Well, George, one one truth she did say, and I'm
talking about Mikey Suryl again, one truth did come out
of her mouth. Out of her mouth talking about the
new green Andenergy policy, she said this, it's going to
cost you a armandal leg, but if it's you're a
good person, you're going to do it. And that's that's

(01:40:06):
Mikey Sryl. It's going to cost you an orman a leg,
but if you're a good person, you're going to do it. Hey, George,
we've got to wrap things up. But before we do,
Frontiers of Freedom what's that all about.

Speaker 2 (01:40:18):
Well, Frontiers of Freedom was founded by Malcolm Wallap, who's
a US senator and a friend and ally of Ronald Reagan's,
and worked with Ronald Reagan to bring about the idea
of missile defense. And we, of course are very committed
to our Constitution and to the concept of individual rights
and the fact that we have this wonderful document that

(01:40:39):
says that we have rights that came from God, not
from government, not from rulers. Over US Senator Wallap Why
used to talk about the fact that what we need
is people who react as if they are governing, not
as if they are rulers, and we are citizens, not subjects,

(01:41:00):
And so that's where we come from what we're focused on.
FF dot Org.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
All right, George again, well thank you for sitting in
as my co host. But for right now, we are
out of time. That means that we got to run
and we got to go take care gobless and we'll
see it tomorrow. That's going to be on TV and
our radio.

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