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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome everybody, and welcome fellow patriots, Welcome Fello de Plorabulls,
welcome all of you, Drex's Society and Rockdweller's, your sick
efens and stinkos. Of course that means our friends, allies
and patriots, and we're always glad that you joined us
here on the Conservative Commander's Radio show. And I'm Rick Trader,
coming to you from my Pillow Studios and my store

(00:43):
studios of the AU and TV network and joining me
today as she does a couple of times a week
as my co host, is the patriot from the battleground State,
the battle born state, the Silver State of Nevada, and
that is Sharon Angelin Share and welcome back, Welcome back
to Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (01:03):
Thank you, Rick. It's great to be here with you today.
Maybe not such a great day. Yesterday was hard, hard,
some shootings here in Reno and also in Manhattan, and
you have to ask why, and also you have to

(01:25):
ask is that coincidence? What's going on here? You know,
this lawlessness I guess that spread throughout our country is
what is making this so difficult to take. I first
wanted to start with just the local shooting that we

(01:48):
had here at Nevada Casino yesterday. Crazy, crazy. Three people
were killed, three others were injured, and he just this
gunman just came in and randomly opened fire at this
casino and then at a motorist. So doesn't seem to

(02:13):
be any kind of of reason for when they say random.
It happened at seven point thirty in the morning, and
the unidentified gunman was just seen walking in the parking
lot when he approached the valet area and then he

(02:35):
just opened fire. He pointed a handgun at a couple
of people, a group of people, and then it begun.
This is interesting. The gun initially malfunctioned before the gunman
was able to open fire, and yet he continued to

(02:59):
move forward. You know, nobody looked and said, hey, wait
a minute, don't do that. No good guys with guns
on the scene.

Speaker 3 (03:07):
Rick.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
The police were able to respond in two point five
minutes of reports of the shooting, but again the damage
was done even after two and a half minutes. Total
of six people were shot and two of those well

(03:33):
three or dead. Two are listed in critical condition and
one was released from the hospital. And there's no motive,
did they? Noah, and the victims aren't connected in any way.
It was just this random shooting.

Speaker 1 (03:58):
Sharing questions for you, Was that shooting in Reno in
a gun free zone?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Not exactly.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
We have.

Speaker 2 (04:07):
Gun shows at this casino, so not exactly a gun
free zone. They I don't think they like you to
pack guns into the casino, but if you're carrying concealed
you know nobody's going to search you, and it's okay
to go in there. It's not posted gun free zone,

(04:30):
So not exactly. You know, we have our CCW laws.
We also can carry open and I know that when
we have gun shows at this particular casino, people bring
their guns in there to trade, to sell, to buy,
you know, whatever they're going to do, and to get ammunition.

(04:52):
And we generally get a lot of folks from California
coming to our gun shows just because they can't buy
it as easily in California as they can in Neveda.
So that's you know, it's not that I mean that
I can see that it was invitational of some kind.

(05:12):
It's just it's such a an anomalous thing that happened,
something that you just wouldn't expect at all. And like
I said, the shooter has no, they don't know what
the motive is, they haven't identified him. They you know,

(05:33):
there's just really nothing to go on here as far
as this one, as this shooting goes. And yet it
happens on the same day of a shooting in Manhattan,
not where you are. So what's what's happening here?

Speaker 1 (05:54):
Well, you know, first of all, you know you're you're
right about the good guys with the guns. And in fact,
over the past weekend there was an incident at a
Walmart in Wisconsin. We're not a shooter, but a guy
with a knife stabbed about a dozen people and he

(06:15):
was stopped by good guy with a gun. The good
guy with the gun did not fire at him, but
the fact that he had a gun and drew the
gun on him stopped the man from hurting anybody else.
And the reason I ask if the situation Reno was
out a gun for his owns. Obviously New York City

(06:38):
has some of the strictest gun control walls in the country.
Didn't stop this guy. And by the way, this guy
was from your state, from Las Vegas. So the question is,
what the heck is going on in Las Vegas? And
I just think it was one of those random things.
They knew right away who the guy was, were able

(07:00):
to identify him pretty quickly. Seems to it seems that
he targeted that building because that is the headquarters of
the National Football League, and the National Football League leases
out like three floors in that building he was in,

(07:22):
he was not able to get access to any of
those three floors, ended up going to another floor and
by the way, shot a couple of people on the
way in, and shot some other people when he was
up on the thirty thirty third floor, and then killed himself. Well,
from what I'm hearing today, they did find it out.

(07:43):
And although this guy never played football beyond high school,
and he was supposed to be in a very very
good high school football player, I don't see where he
ever played in college. He certainly didn't play in the NFL.
But he blamed the NFL because he said he was
dealing with CTE. Well, I don't know how he knew that,

(08:07):
because CTE cannot be diagnosed until somebody is dead and
they dissect the brain. Now, this guy, they said they
in his car. They found another gun, they found ammunition.
They also found medicines prescribed to this individual. I haven't

(08:30):
heard what those medicines are, but there's speculation that they
were to control people with the mental problem, and obviously
this guy had some sort of a mental problem. A
right thinking person doesn't take a high power gun and
go off into New York City to kill people. So

(08:55):
apparently they know a little bit more about the shooter
in New York City then they do the shooter in Reno.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
Well, at least they're not releasing it they have.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
Sharon, You know, I said all I say all the time.
I say all the time. We don't have a gun
control problem in this country. We have a criminal control problem.
We're not doing enough to control criminals. Yet you've got
a guy running for mayor in New York. He's saying

(09:28):
that he wants to defund the police. That instead of
when you have an emergency, sending the police, he sends
social workers. Really, I wonder, you know, sending social workers
that situation in New York City yesterday, I think that
would have led to just more victims is being killed.

(09:51):
We see this all the time, Sharon, We see this
all the time, that these areas, these mass shootings. Since
nineteen seventy four, just about every mass shooting that occurs
occurs in a gun free zone. And why is that, Well,
people know they're not going to be challenged by a

(10:12):
good guy with a gun. So this is the problem.
And then you've got and then all day all you're
going to hear is, see, this is why we need
gun laws. This is why we need more gun laws. No,
this is why we need good guys with guns to
stop the bad guy with a gun, because generally speaking,

(10:35):
that's the only thing that's going.

Speaker 2 (10:36):
To stop that's right. You know, this one at the
Grand Sierra Resort casino. And the reason I say it's
a casino, most of the people that go to casinos
are out of town ors, folks from other states, Folks
that didn't bring their gun with them because of the

(10:58):
laws that restrict them on it, airplanes and even the
laws that restrict them from having guns in the home
state that they're coming from. So the person that would
have had to have to be the good guy with
the gun would have had to be somebody local. Will
they don't frequent, especially seven point thirty in the morning,
They don't frequent casinos. The locals don't. So the valets,

(11:25):
which is where this guy open fired, they're not armed.
I'm wondering if they will start to be iron armed,
because remember the fellow that drove up in the Tesla
truck in front of a casino, in front of Trump
Towers in Las Vegas. And it is, as you say,
it's this criminal element. These folks have some kind of

(11:50):
a grievance, and it's difficult. Even as you were trying
to point out, this fellow leaves a note and tells
you what his grievance is. But you go, that doesn't
even make sense. A grievance, doesn't because how would he know,
as you pointed out, that he has a problem that's
related to football injuries? How would he have come to

(12:13):
conclude that that was the NFL's fault when he never.

Speaker 1 (12:17):
Never played I played ball in college, never playing in college,
never played in the NFL. And yet he's blaming the
NFL and he self diagnosed that he has CTE. The
guy had obviously obvious psychological problems. But you know that
that's that's another situation. Maybe we want to pick it

(12:40):
up in the in the second half or in the
next segment, Sharon, because you know, we are so politically correct,
we're so politically correct that you can't even say to
somebody anymore that if you do see somebody with a problem,
you can't say to him, look, you have from you

(13:01):
have the psychological problems. You need to seek professional help.
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Speaker 1 (16:36):
This is the Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angel. I'm Rick Trader,
coming to you from the Michael Studios, my store studios
of the au n TV Networking Sharon. We started out
today's show by talking about the recent shootings, shootings in
your hometown Reado, Nevada, shootings in New York City. We
talked a little bit about this knifing in incident at

(17:02):
a Walmart in Wisconsin. And this is all coming down
to Sharon. I believe people with mental with psychological problems.
We have a problem today. We do have a psychological
mental health problem in America today. In my opinion, we
don't have a gun problem. We have a criminal problem.

(17:22):
We have a mental health problem. Donald Trump said just
the other day, how about the mental health problem in America?
And you got to ask why, You got to ask why,
why is it that you know up till in nineteen
seventy four, the first mass shooting is reputed to be
the Texas Texas Tower shootings in Austin, Texas on the

(17:48):
University of Texas, and since that time, a couple of
times a year we hear of mass shootings. We don't
have more guns, and that's not the problem. We got
to get back to basics. We've got to get back
to the America that well you and I were at
least born into and lived in up til the sixties

(18:09):
when when drug sex and rock and roll become prevalent.
And you know, I saw a graph one time. I
saw a graph one time, and I talked about the
ills of society, such as children born into one parent homes,

(18:37):
children being raised by just a mother, the decline of marriage,
the increase and divorce rates, and it seems to go
back to the nineteen sixty two, right around the time,
right around the time they banned prayer in school.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I think you can and he have a historian, David Barton,
makes an elegant case for this. He really goes into
what happened in nineteen sixty two and what has happened
following nineteen sixty two, which has been the breakdown of
our culture. And it's not been a slow decline, it's

(19:21):
been a fast It's.

Speaker 1 (19:23):
A hockey sticks there is and the things were flat
all the ills were flat. Come nineteen sixty two, it
was like a hockey.

Speaker 2 (19:32):
Stick, and it just continues to escalate and escalate. It
reminds me of our founding fathers when said we could
be self governing, and what they meant was we could
practice self control. You don't need the government month to
stay in and make a bunch of laws to control
these people. They are self controlled. They are self governing,

(19:56):
and that has is what has changed. And I think
you're right there there's mental illness here. But is that
just a crutch for not being taught from an early
age how to practice self control, how to how to
love their fellow man, how to value life. No, in fact,

(20:20):
we're being taught exactly the opposite thing by our culture,
which is that life isn't valuable. Life is there for
the betterment or the good, the greater good of the populace.
So no eventual right, no individual's life is more valuable

(20:41):
than this greater good. And that's why we see legislation
coming through that actually proclaims death and no one is safe.
It's not the preborn issue anymore. It's all across the spectrum.

(21:02):
If there is if you're in the womb, you're not valuable.
If you have a handicap, you're not valuable. If you're
too old, you're not valuable. And so the value of
any human life then becomes how productive are you? If
you aren't productive, then you're not valuable. And that idea

(21:26):
that you're not valuable, that's basically what this fellow in Manhattan.
What a note that was that he wrote talking about
when I'm gone, I want you to investigate what was
going on in my brain. He no longer had a
desire to live, He no longer felt his own value.

(21:49):
And we get our value from our creator. He's the
one that said, you're valuable. I love you the way
I made you, just the way I need you, unique
and great for just a time like this. And we've
gotten so far away from our creator that we just
don't even value our own lives anymore.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
I agree. In fact, recently, Delaware became the twelfth state
that legalized medical aid in dying. I call the sister's suicide, yes,
and that you know, we could we could say, well,
what else is going on here? Is sugar leading to this?
Is prescription drugs leading to this? But's onia radar screen, kiddo,

(22:33):
I was.

Speaker 2 (22:34):
I was in Alco that's in eastern Nevada, and a
veteran came to that meeting to talk about the Epstein files.
And I'm thinking, why is this the most crushing crisis
that he would come to this meeting. Has never been

(22:56):
to this, to a Republican meeting before, but he came
to this Republican meeting to talk about the Epstein files
and how those are being handled. Now, we've carried many,
many stories on Jeffrey Epstein and yes, Julaine Maxwell. He

(23:19):
talked about who was on the island and who would
get prosecuted. We even talked about the unlikelihood that Jeffrey
Epstein actually committed suicide.

Speaker 1 (23:31):
Okay, Biden has been in office for the past four years. Yes,
all right, this Epstein thing has been going on for decades. Yes,
why is it so important now now that they want
to talk about Epstein. They didn't want to talk about

(23:52):
it for the last four years. They want to talk
about it now, you know, they don't want to talk
about all the good things he said. Donald Trump is done.
In fact, he's on his way home from Scotland, where
he just cited a major, major trade deal with the
European Union, a major trade deal with the European Union.

(24:16):
When you look at all the wins that Donald Trump
has had in his first six months of his second term,
do they want to talk about that. No, they want
to talk about Epstein. You know why they want to
talk about Epstein because they want to insinuate now that
Donald Trump was involved in all that. Now, Donald Trump

(24:38):
has said, yeah, look, at one time I knew this guy.
When I figured out what a sleeve'sball he was, I
cut my relationship off with him. Now, Sharon, I have
and I bet you have in your lifetime individuals that
came into your life that after a while, he said,
you know what, this is not somebody I want to say,

(25:00):
wociate with.

Speaker 4 (25:01):
Now.

Speaker 1 (25:01):
How would you like it if twenty thirty years later,
somebody who you knew, who you didn't want anything to
do with, that you cut ties with. Now people are
trying to associate you with that person. Oh, they want
to associate Donald Trump with Jeffrey Epstein. Well, how about
associating him with Obama and Clinton and Hillary and all

(25:26):
the other Democrats. Robert Menendez and you can go on
and on and on and on. The Democrats that had
been to Jeffrey Epstein's island. Okay, Now, now it's so important,
after all these years, after all these years, Now it's

(25:47):
so important to get to the bottom of Jeffrey Epstein. Hell,
when the man was in jail committing suicide, that Democrats
didn't even want to talk about it. Now that page one,
age one, and they gotta have answers.

Speaker 4 (26:03):
Now, why should we be surprised at this?

Speaker 2 (26:07):
Why should we even be talking about this, as you
point out, But the reason we are is because we forget.
We forget that that's the way the left works, and
this coming at us is the left. It's bold, it's blatant,
and we should be saying we're not buying it. We're

(26:28):
just not buying it. Let's move on, just like we
did in the meeting.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
Nothing nothing to see here, nothing just really the only
thing that we.

Speaker 2 (26:39):
Can discuss is that we're they're trying to dupe us,
trying to bring us back in, suck us in and
get us off of the true news.

Speaker 1 (26:49):
All right, with that, we will go to break Sea.
I can shut up when they say I'm going to
shut up. And this is the Conservative commanders with Sharon Angle,
Armrick Trader go nowhere. We'll be back if our next
segment right after this break.

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Speaker 1 (30:06):
And thank you for staying with us. This is The
Conservative Commandos with Sharon Angle. I'm re trader and program
note here right after this segment, we will be playing
a couple of the great interviews that we've done here
on The Conservative Commanders from time to time, So don't
go away, we'll play those interviews. Like I said, right
after this the end of this segment. So, Sharon, what

(30:30):
else is on your radar screen?

Speaker 2 (30:32):
Well, you know, my husband is always getting me some
great stuff to put on our show, and I like
the things that he comes up with. This one is
kind of an interesting one about In and Out Burger,
one of my favorite places to eat, and really I've.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Never been there. I've never been In and Out.

Speaker 2 (30:53):
Well, I guess the reason that I like In and
Out Burger. So much is because they like Jesus. When
you go into In and Out Burger, there's a scripture
on every rapper John three sixteen, A good scripture. Second
Chronicle seven fourteen, great scripture. This is why they have

(31:17):
a terrific business model. I've never seen them when they're
not packed. We have three of them in our town,
and there's always a line, always a line inside, outside,
doesn't matter, but it's always a line to get in.
So they are a chain now. But the their announcement

(31:48):
now is they're going to expand. So this is kind
of an interesting thing that they're expanding their company when
other companies are kind of not sure whether they can expand.
It's California especially, but that's not that's not how they're
doing it. They're going to expand east, kind of like

(32:11):
everybody else is. They're moving out of California, moving east,
going where they can have a better business climate. And
so I just thought it was it was worth talking about.
They're one of those good companies, one of the good
guys that that do business here in in America. And

(32:37):
you know, sometimes we don't talk about the good guys.
Sometimes we talk about, oh my goodness, you know, Starbucks
and some of these others. But in and out Burger,
uh they have they're located in Nate States, so they're
not in the East yet. No wonder you've never been
in one.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
I wonder I've never been in one. Like I'm looking
at the map. Been according to this map, there are
five stores in Washington, sixteen and Wyoming Midwest, thirteen stores,

(33:17):
forty three in the South, a lot of them in West.
But I heard that in Alberger a lot of them
were moving out of California.

Speaker 2 (33:26):
They are, they're moving east. That's what they're doing. They're
going to expand their business. But this is a a
move that they've We've thought, why didn't they do it sooner?
Because it's just been such a hit out here, and

(33:47):
it is. It's a very limited menu. They have hamburgers
and French fries.

Speaker 13 (33:55):
That's what they have.

Speaker 2 (33:56):
That's all they have. But these burgers you can have
them your way. Like my favorite burger is called a
it's called a double meat protein style, double meat protein style.
That's it, I think. Anyway, That's what I order, and

(34:19):
I get two patties wrapped in lettuce with tomato and
their special slash delicious, but that's what I like. Ted
just gets the number three, a coke, some French fries,
and a single burgler. You can get cheese on it,
but it's just a burger, fries and a drink.

Speaker 1 (34:38):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
That's their model. And like I said, there's always a
line from the time they open till the time they close.
It's a line. And we have, like I said, three
here in our town, and every one of them is
a line. It doesn't matter where you go, you're going
to get into a line if you want an in
and out.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
So they've been around nineteen forty eight, so my gosh,
I found something that's older than me. In and Out
Burgers Harry Snyder introduces California's first dry through burgers Head
in a space barely one hundred square feet and Baldwint Park.

(35:23):
Every day before dawn, Harry visits the meat and produce
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his wife Esther diligently takes care of in all the
accounting and new restaurants. So it started out just a

(35:45):
husband and wife in nineteen forty eight.

Speaker 2 (35:49):
Mom and pop business the American dream, and they have
just builted it and built it and built it, and
now they're expanding. See the company announced in twenty twenty
three that plan to operate a corporate office in Tennessee.
So now that expansion is becoming a reality, they have

(36:13):
moved far enough east to Tennessee that you may be
seeing them in New Jersey. But as I said, they
are a Christian based, Christian known business. Their employees are
always very friendly, very helpful, just a good business model.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
You know, Sharon, You've got other Christian based businesses you
know that seem to do very very well. And they
do offer two things. They have a great product, and
people like the company's philosophy and attitudes, you know what
I mean. You know, So I would like to see

(36:57):
more companies like in al Berger and others that Chick
fil A that have a wholesome family, Christian attitude and marketing.
And as of twenty twenty three, they have four hundred

(37:18):
stores open. Yes, so it is growing well.

Speaker 2 (37:22):
And they're planning to move out of California to Tennessee.
And they're just one of many that have said this state, California,
it's got heavy taxes and regulation, progressive politics, and a
punishing cost of living can't do it. Others that have

(37:46):
left California Charles Swab and Chevron, who cited regulatory issues
and taxes and high operating costs. Elon musk, of course
he moved. He moved to Nevada with Tesla, but now
he's moving SpaceX and his social media company X to Texas.

(38:09):
And then Elon said that his reasoning was this gender
identification change stuff. He said that was the final straw
for him out of California. So this is it's good
news for the rest of the of the United States,

(38:30):
but not such great news for California. And yet you think,
what is Gavin Newsom thinking when these companies are leaving.
Shouldn't that be the wake up call that something's very,
very wrong in California.

Speaker 1 (38:47):
Either way, members of the Snyder family still owned a company,
president owner, President owner Lindsey Snyder. There's the company's official
story with her first book, The Ins and Out Burgers,
The Ins and Outs of the Ins and Out Burger.

Speaker 4 (39:08):
Yep.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
So it's you know, one of those things where this
whole uh woke culture is starting to kill businesses, especially
when the government gets involved. And you know, as we
announced last week, the Olympics and the per Olympics committee

(39:30):
just now you know, they finally said no, no men
and women in sports. They're not going to do it. So,
you know, this is becoming more and more something that
I think the left should have to look at. But
we're not seeing it, right, We're not seeing them say, oh, well,

(39:53):
sign for us to get back to America and what
made America great, as our president says, you know, make
America great again. There's a few things that do that.
One of them is realizing the American dream. But again,
what we pointed out was this country was made for

(40:13):
a moral and religious people and wholly inappropriate for any other,
the governance of any other. And so when you have
companies that are subscribing to that philosophy, they do well.
The ones that don't don't do well. You know, to me,

(40:37):
it's just a wake up call. But whatever, we're not seen.
You know, it's not playing out in reality there in California.
It's almost as if they're saying, who cares, you know,
we'll run this thing till we run it in the ground.

Speaker 1 (40:56):
All right, Well, sharing that it is time for our
next break. It's good to learn a little bit about
an inn Alberger. It's good to highlight companies in a whee.
Always say you're a conservative commandos that use our dollar
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Speaker 1 (45:14):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commands Radio
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to you from the MYELA studios, the master studios of
the au n TV network and sharing our first guest
of the days with this and please make that introduction.

Speaker 2 (45:34):
Well, it's my pleasure to introduce William Jacobson, his clinical
professor of law at Cornell Law School and founder of
the Legal Insurrection website. Founded Critical race dot orgs sprawling
database that has also examined elite k through twelve private schools,
five hundred of America's top undergraduate programs, and military service academies.

(45:59):
He frequently is quoted in national media on issues related
to investment fraud and investor protection, and in the past
has served as one of the small number of private
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regulatory Authority. Professor Jacobson is co author of the Securities

(46:21):
Arbitration Desk reference that's updated annually. Bill, Welcome back to
the Conservative Commando's radio show.

Speaker 17 (46:29):
Thank you for having me back. It's been a while
since they've been on.

Speaker 1 (46:33):
Thank You. Where you been?

Speaker 2 (46:38):
Well, we want to talk to you about something that
we covered a couple of weeks ago. It's kind of
an interesting back pedal because of the I believe because
of the election. But maybe you have a different take
on it, and that is these woke companies that are

(47:01):
seeming to say, well, we're not so woke as we
used to be.

Speaker 17 (47:05):
Well, I think this has been building for a while.
I think if you go back, things peaked. The craziness
really peaked in the year after George Floyd when all
of the schools and all of the companies went to
Virtue Signal pledged a lot of money. I teach at Cornell,
so I experienced that myself watching what was happening, and

(47:27):
actually our watching is what gave rise eventually to us
creating Critical Race dot org.

Speaker 18 (47:33):
So it's been building.

Speaker 17 (47:36):
DEI what critical race theory diversity equity inclusion. Critical race
theory is the theory DEI is how it's implemented there's
been a backlash building. I'm proud to say that we
were part of building that backlash, and I think now,
so you've seen companies being named and shamed, You've seen

(47:57):
documents leaking, you know, our website documents, what's happening mostly
in education question sphere, and so it's been building. There's
no question though, that the outcome of the election will
accelerate that backlash because now, for the first time in
four years, we finally have the federal government on our side.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I can understand, especially Walmart, why they would want to
pull back away from this because, I mean they have
watched bud like go the way of wokish stuff. Why
isn't everybody jumping on and saying we don't do that anymore?

Speaker 17 (48:40):
Well, because you've got to understand the ideology behind it.
The racialization of everything in politics is.

Speaker 18 (48:48):
Very deeply embedded.

Speaker 17 (48:49):
I mean, for a lot of people, this is their
philosophical outlook on life. It's very hard for them to change.
These are the circles that they run in. Being on
it a liberal college campus DEI is deeply embedded and
they are they are proud of it, and they see
nothing wrong with it. So why hasn't everybody jumped on

(49:10):
the bandwagon. It's because this is a matter for a
lot of these people, almost a faith to them that
you know, DEI has become their religion and they are
not going to give it up that easily. The ones
who are giving it up are the ones who, in
many ways are suffering the economic consequences of it, the
companies who are losing money, the companies who are losing customers.

(49:33):
So it's a landscape which is not an even landscape.
It's not taking place at the same pace everywhere. Certainly,
examples like bud Light, I mean, bud Light has become
I think of a verb budlight. Somebody talking about brand damage.
Brand damage. Okay, but that's a good example. You know,

(49:56):
naming and shaming companies h creates a centerve for other
companies not to go there. So it's a very uneven landscape.
But I think you're going to see more and more
of them, and perhaps Walmart is a harbinger of what's
to come.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
Well, I can't say anything, but I hope, so I
hope that exactly what's going to happen. You mentioned that
on your campus, that they they have this ideology will
and green. Is that they the students or is it
the faculty. Let's make a distinction here, because I'm hearing

(50:33):
that it's this younger generation that's almost driving this bus.
They're wanting truth. They're saying, we're done with this, we've
had it.

Speaker 17 (50:42):
Well, you've given me a choice, but you've left out
the key choice, the administration. A lot of this is
driven by the administration with the support of the faculty.
So I would say it's a tie between the administrators
and the faculty as to.

Speaker 18 (50:59):
Who is behind them.

Speaker 17 (51:00):
And I would say the administrators probably the most. They
are the bureaucracy. They are the ones who hold the
DEI positions, they have their careers are invested in this
to a much greater extent than the faculty. For the faculty,
it's mostly ideological, in my observation, for the careerists. For
the administrators, it's very economic.

Speaker 18 (51:23):
This is their job.

Speaker 17 (51:25):
If you're talking about eliminating DEI departments, you're talking about
eliminating their jobs. And so I would say the biggest
problem are the administrators. They're the ones who run the
stupid trainings. They're the ones who hire the consultants. They're
the ones who do a lot of this, but I
do agree with you there is a backlash among the students.

(51:45):
I can't really quantify it. I can't put it into
numbers or statistics, but I have observed that the students
are kind of fed up with this. Most of the students,
they understand how unfair it is. It's really not popular
on the campuses, but they also understand that there's a
price to be paid if you speak out against it.

(52:06):
It could be nasty things said about you on the internet,
and we shouldn't scoff at that. I mean, if you're
twenty one years old, twenty two years old, getting ready
to graduate and go into the job market, what's one
of the things almost all employers do now. They do
social media searches. They hire companies to search the internet
about you. There's nasty stuff. If you're called the racist

(52:29):
because you opposed Black Lives Matter or because you opposed
affirmative action. You don't know how that's going to affect
your job prospects. And that pressure of the internet and
social media, I think is very large, and that's what
keeps a lot of students silent. But I also think
you're seeing a backlash growing.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
Do they backlash. Are they pushing them back with their pocketbook?
I guess I want to know. Have you seen a
decline in registration? Are people wanting to even come to
Cornell because they just feel like it's just too much?
Or is that their parents? Is there something there or
are you You have not seen any kind of difference

(53:10):
that way.

Speaker 17 (53:10):
Well, I'm not necessarily privy to those admission statistics. I
teach in the law schools, so I mostly deal with
the law students.

Speaker 18 (53:17):
The law students tend to be much.

Speaker 17 (53:19):
More moderate than the undergrads than the graduate students, you know,
the PhD students, their very career oriented. Almost everybody coming
out of Cornell Law School goes to work for big
law firms, corporate law firms, so I don't really see
it as much. I don't know if there's a backlash.
I have read anecdotally that schools in the South have

(53:43):
picked up a lot of students who may be previously
considered Northeastern, so called elite schools. That schools like the
University of Florida, and I'm sure there are several others
that I'm just not thinking of, have really recruited very heavily.
And I know that that is a fact that there
are students who are making the choices. I don't know

(54:04):
if it's a significant enough number to impact the schools
or to get their attention.

Speaker 2 (54:10):
Okay, let's get back to Walmart. Are they an anomaly
or is there a trend? Well, we see Disney, for instance,
jump jump back into the family market rather than this
DEI thing that they've done, and other Starbucks. There's there's
a lot of these companies that many of us have
just said, we don't spend our money there anymore because

(54:32):
of that agenda.

Speaker 17 (54:34):
Yeah, you know, I can't really say. I mean, there's
certainly a lot of incidences of companies that have announced
they're doing a way or scaling back their DEI programs.

Speaker 18 (54:46):
But I just can't.

Speaker 17 (54:47):
I don't know if the statistics are there to show
whether it's a trend or not. But if Walmart is
doing it, what more proof do you need?

Speaker 18 (54:54):
I mean, I don't.

Speaker 17 (54:55):
You know, there's massive corporation that is present almost everywhere
in the country and that had jumped on the d
high bandwagon, you know, and it would a little surprisingly
because that's not really their clientele, that's.

Speaker 18 (55:09):
Not really their their market.

Speaker 15 (55:11):
Uh.

Speaker 17 (55:12):
You know, as opposed to Starbucks maybe, which you might
have a different profile of customer. So I don't know
if it's a trend, but I think you will see
companies as they get named and shamed as the truth
comes out, because a lot of this that goes on
can only survive if it's hidden from public scrutiny.

Speaker 18 (55:31):
That's really part of it.

Speaker 2 (55:34):
One of the things that we've seen in the West,
and I think is as kind of common anymore as
in the big cities. I'm thinking mainly of San Francisco,
where they have these laws. This is going to sound
like out of left field, but I will bring it back,
laws that if you steal from a store less than

(55:58):
a thousand dollars, you won't be prosecuted. Do you think
that that goes hand in hand with this woke agenda?
Is it's something that maybe we're we're seeing it as
a pushback against the agenda, but maybe there's an underlying
economic thing here. They would like to see those laws

(56:20):
tightened up. They really do want a new sheriff in town.

Speaker 4 (56:25):
Yeah.

Speaker 17 (56:25):
I think something passed in California to that extent in
this election cycle.

Speaker 18 (56:30):
I don't remember the exact.

Speaker 17 (56:31):
Details, but you know that law that passed that essentially
gave people the right to steal up to one thousand dollars.
It was very unpopular because what you're seeing in a
lot of cities, and I think San Francisco, is a
lot of stores are just leaving. They cannot survive economically
when people just walk through the store and without even
trying to hire it, they practically bring in, you know,

(56:54):
the shopping cart, fill it up, and walk right out
with it, and there's nothing anybody can do to stop them.
And if they did stop them, they're not going to
get prosecuted anyway. So I think that those have had
a real impact. You often hear complaints about food deserts
in inner city as if that is somehow attributable to racism,

(57:16):
that for some reason, you know, food companies and groceries
ors don't want to make money in inner cities.

Speaker 18 (57:22):
That's not true.

Speaker 17 (57:23):
Problem is a lot of them can't because of the
high theft rates, and those high theft rates are accelerated
and exacerbated by the social justice doctrines that have taken
over the police and have taken over prosecutions.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
I think there's a tie to that that whole agenda
just seems to be undermining business to the extent that
I don't know why any business would embrace that. But
we're going to go to a commercial break with the
business that we know hasn't ever embraced this stuff, and
that's my pillow. We are coming to you from our

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And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservatimendus Radio. Shall
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that's William Jacobson. He's a clinical professor of law at

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Cornell Law School. He is also the founder of Legal Insurrection. Bill,
thank you for holding through that break. We really do
appreciate your time.

Speaker 18 (01:00:40):
Glad to be here.

Speaker 1 (01:00:42):
How safe do you feel at colonel? I mean, you're
a clinical law professor, you're speaking conservative here, you started
a legal insurrection. How do you get along with your peers?

Speaker 17 (01:00:56):
Well, it's for the most part. People have left me
alone most of the harassments.

Speaker 1 (01:01:03):
Does that mean they'd leave you alone at lunch? Another
person is all alone?

Speaker 18 (01:01:08):
Or when people say how is it there? It's lonely.

Speaker 1 (01:01:14):
Because we're talking ivy league here.

Speaker 17 (01:01:18):
I mean, I started the website in two thousand and eight,
went through a decade of harassment, but it was all
from off campus.

Speaker 18 (01:01:26):
The only time I had an on campus.

Speaker 17 (01:01:28):
Problem was after George Floyd I publicly criticized the BLM riots.
I publicly said what I'd said before that I followed
the Michael Brown case. I saw people marching hands up,
don't shoot, and I wrote at our website, how that's
a fabrication.

Speaker 18 (01:01:45):
It never happened.

Speaker 17 (01:01:46):
The Obama Justice Department investigated it and found there was
no credible evidence that Michael Brown was shot with his
hands up saying don't shoot. In fact, he was shot
because he punched a policeman in the face and tried
to steal his weapon. So I wrote all these things,
and people just kind of lost their minds. I think
it was the time. It was June of twenty twenty,

(01:02:08):
rioting everywhere. I wrote that the leadership and the founders
of Black Lives Matter, who we have followed at the
website at that point for almost a decade, since the
Trayvon Martin case which gave rise to the hashtag black
Lives Matter, and the Michael Brown case, which gave rise
to the formal organization Black Lives Matter, I said, the

(01:02:30):
people who founded that organization do not have the country's
interest at heart. They are avowed Marxist, which they're on
video saying they are seeking to tear down our society,
and they are manipulating people. Well, in June of twenty twenty,
that didn't go over big with people, and there was
a concerted effort.

Speaker 18 (01:02:50):
To get me fired.

Speaker 17 (01:02:52):
Twenty one of my colleagues signed a letter denouncing me,
the Dean denounced me. There were petitions to get me fired.
But you know, I've been vindicated, with the luxury of
four years of hindsight, everything I warned about has come true.
I feel completely vindicated about it. All my criticisms of
BLM as a movement were valid All my criticisms of

(01:03:16):
the foundation and the founders of the movement have been validated.
So yeah, it's been a rocky ride, but sometimes you
just got to speak up. And I always felt that,
you know, what are they going to do to me?
They couldn't fire me, really because it's not technically tenure,
but I had contractual job protection. But I'm the anomaly

(01:03:39):
because I had that job protection. If I didn't have it,
I have no doubt they would have fired me. And
people understand that, and that's why most people won't speak out.
So I was privileged to be in a position that
I could speak out. I was privileged to have a
platform which was high profile, at least within the conservative
media movement, and I was you know, got support from

(01:04:01):
around the country. So while they tried to you know,
hancel me, while they tried to minimize me, in fact,
they ended up raising my profile very much. I spent
the whole summer of twenty twenty doing TV and radio interviews.
I may have even been on your show. I was
okay talking about it. So the way I got even

(01:04:24):
was going public and talking to people and letting them
know what's happening. And I feel one hundred percent vindicated.

Speaker 1 (01:04:31):
And this is a little off topic, but that's okay.
You know, we can go anywhere we want to. In
this conversation that the twenty one of your peers that
signed this position to get you fired, did you ever
have a chance to have one on one conversation with them?

Speaker 17 (01:04:48):
No, I have no desire to. They some of them
were I considered friends. Some of them were people I'd
known for a decade. Some of them, you know, but
not as single one of them called me up and said, hey,
you know, I read what you wrote. I don't agree
with it. Why did you say this? Okay, not a
single one. They all wanted a virtue signal fifteen student

(01:05:12):
groups organized a boycott of my course, and I'm happy
to say it failed.

Speaker 18 (01:05:16):
I had as big a sign up ever.

Speaker 17 (01:05:18):
I definitely had a sign up, including people who signed
up specifically to defy the boycott. So no, but I
have you know, I act professionally at work. I do
whatever I have to do. But after somebody does that,
there's nothing really to talk about as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
As you mentioned with Sharon that your students, law students
tend to be more centrist than the typical undergraduate community.
Have you seen a shift in this spill over, say,
the last four years. Have you seen even more law
students becoming more set up to even write to center

(01:06:01):
then maybe four or six years ago.

Speaker 17 (01:06:05):
It's hard to say, because at least my experience at
the law school, it's never at least Cornell Law School
has never been a radical place. It really hasn't been.
I mean, it's kind of known as being a very
corporately sort of career path for people. We have the
highest job placement I believe in the country, you know,

(01:06:26):
for people who go into jobs that require a law degree.
So if you go to Cornell Law School, you will.

Speaker 18 (01:06:33):
Pay a lot of money.

Speaker 17 (01:06:34):
Trust me, and you may run up a lot of debt,
but you're going to get a high paying job coming
out of it. So our students have just been a
little bit different. I can't really say whether it's changed
over the years, because it's at least the students who
interact with me, and maybe that's self selecting. The ones
who want to take my course. They all know about
my website, they will know about my politics, so if

(01:06:56):
they're signing up for my course, that's almost a screening mechanism.
But you know, Cornell School has been a pretty good place.
They got swept up in the summer of twenty twenty
with the national mania. It wasn't, in my estimation, their
finest hour, but we've moved beyond it, and you know,

(01:07:17):
I think the students are generally reasonable, but it's really
the undergrads, and even more than the undergrads, it's the
I'm not sure what the technical term for them is,
but the grad the non professional school grad students, the
ones who are in the PhD programs, they are the
most radical of the group on campus.

Speaker 1 (01:07:38):
Saw in a very pretty part of the world. By
the way, Well, let's get back to DEI is DEI
may be dying, but it's not dead yet, is it.

Speaker 18 (01:07:49):
No, And and a lot of people.

Speaker 17 (01:07:51):
And one of the reactions that we're getting for people is, aha,
we won the election.

Speaker 18 (01:07:55):
Trump's gonna be back in. It's over. We've won.

Speaker 17 (01:07:58):
No, Okay, consider the election winning a battle, but not
winning the war against DBI, because the ideology, like I said,
is so deeply embedded. It's embedded in the coursework, it's
embedded in the programming, it's embedded in the administration, it's
embedded in the faculty. It is not going to go away.

(01:08:19):
So we're going to keep up our fight against it.
But people should not you think it's over, because in
four years it could come roaring back. Look how much
damage the Biden administration did. We get another Democrat administration
in like the Biden administration, it's they could undo all
the good work that takes place these years very quickly.

(01:08:40):
Remember Biden on day one signed fifty or one hundred,
I don't remember the number, essentially wiping out everything that
Trump had done administratively. And that's why legislation is much
more important, because it's harder to get rid of legislation
than an executive order. An executive order can be reversed
by another executive order, you.

Speaker 1 (01:09:02):
Know, Bill. One of the things that I do, one
of my guilty pleasures, it's also part of what I
do here with the AU and TV network is I
watch a lot of television news and information programs in particular,
And even though bud Light was hit so severely as

(01:09:23):
it was, I don't see advertising changing that much, you know,
and I know this is controversial, and I mentioned this
to Sharon. When you look at advertising, when you look
at the actors that they hire for advertising, when you
look how the actors are portrayed and used in advertising,

(01:09:46):
when you look at the little hidden messages besides the
products or services trying to sell, I wonder if we're
ever going to really rid ourselves of WOCUSM totally.

Speaker 18 (01:10:03):
Probably not.

Speaker 17 (01:10:04):
I think the answer is probably not. The issue is
whether we can shift the culture. This is at its
core a cultural fight. It's not even really a political fight.
Many people have said it, and the one I always
remember saying it is Andrew Breitbart, which is that politics
is downstream of culture. The reason we get something like
Kamala Harris or Tim Walls as nominees or Joe Biden,

(01:10:28):
and you know Tim Obama, who is behind him. The
home way Hallway is because of the culture, and a
lot of that culture has started in education. And one
thing your listeners and viewers may or may not know about.
It's no longer just in higher ed. It's moved down
into K through twelve very heavily, and a lot of

(01:10:49):
it is pushed by the teachers unions. The teachers' unions
are extremely heavily invested in pushing the CRT and the
DEI I think was National Education Association, which I believe
is the largest teachers union, past a resolution at its
annual meeting.

Speaker 18 (01:11:05):
I forget if it was last year or the year before.

Speaker 17 (01:11:08):
I think it was the year before calling upon CRT
to be taught in every single public.

Speaker 18 (01:11:14):
School in America. So the teacher unions are behind this well.

Speaker 1 (01:11:18):
I think if there was any good thing that come
out of the Wuhan flu fraud, and I'm not politically correct,
that's why I call it, that is that parents finally
were learning what their kids are being taught. I think
we saw a big backlash there. Uh. William Jacobson a
clinical law professor at Cornell Law School, the founder of

(01:11:43):
Legal Insurrection built. Before you leave us, make sure you
leave us with all the information how people could follow you,
read the things you write, find out more about Legal insurrection,
Critical raise dot org. Go ahead, go for it, buddy.

Speaker 18 (01:11:58):
Sure.

Speaker 17 (01:11:58):
So we have three websites. One is legal insurrection dot com.
That's our traditional politics and law blog that's been around
since two thousand and eight. And we have two other projects.
One is Critical Race dot org, which has interactive maps
that track how critical race theory and its variants like

(01:12:18):
DEI have spread throughout higher education. And we have another project,
which we launched not quite two years ago, called the
Equal Protection Project equalprotect dot org, which files legal challenges
to discrimination done in the name of DEI, and we
filed over fifty cases so far. So people have plenty

(01:12:39):
of ways to find me.

Speaker 18 (01:12:40):
Just google my name.

Speaker 17 (01:12:42):
You'll find out a lot about me, mostly good, a
little negative, but you'll find me.

Speaker 1 (01:12:49):
Well, I heard something somewhere. You can always tell a
character at the person by their enemies. Professor William Jacobson,
we want to thank you so much for joining us.
Take care and godless great.

Speaker 18 (01:13:05):
Thank you for having me on and you.

Speaker 1 (01:13:07):
Are listening to and watching the Conservative Commanders with Sharon Angle.
I'mric Trader. On the other side. We're going to be
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College Fix. We're going to talk about a myriad of
articles that they've published there, including an Arizona State University
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Speaker 1 (01:16:50):
And welcome back, Welcome back to the Conservative Commandos Radio
show with Sharon Angle and your shrewdly rich Trader, coming
to you from the Mypilla stitio is my store studios
of our very own aun TV network. And Sharon is
Today's show is almost like a theme show, isn't it.
M h yeah, yeah, But Sharon, please introduce our next guest,

(01:17:12):
a new guest here on Conservative Commandos.

Speaker 2 (01:17:14):
That's my pleasure to introduce Matt Lamb, who is an
associate editor for The College Fix. He also writes for
Life Site, News, Headline USA, and has written for The
Washington Examiner. He previously worked for Students for Life America,
Students for Life Action, and Turning Point USA. Along with

(01:17:35):
The Open the Books, The College Fix regularly trains students
and helps them find jobs in media with alumni at
Fox News, The Daily Wire, Washington Examiner, National Review, and
a host of other publications. Matt, Welcome to the Conservative
Commandos radio show.

Speaker 3 (01:17:54):
Yeah, thanks for having me on.

Speaker 2 (01:17:56):
It's our pleasure to have you, and we are live
what you're saying about training people. We'd like to take
an intern here at a un TV. We can't pay much.
That's the only problem we you know, we were looking

(01:18:18):
through some of the things that you cover. It seems
like you you have really you're training your students. Well,
so let's start with that. How do you train your
journalism students? Are they trained with an agenda? Are they
just going to give us the right wing news? Or
or are they how how do you train them? Are
they trained just like the left is training theirs to

(01:18:40):
do media that way?

Speaker 3 (01:18:43):
So we really focus on the basics of journalism, writing
good questions, getting multiple angles on a store, because sometimes
there's just two sides, sometimes there's three or four angles,
and you know, being respectful but also trying to advance
a story. So something I really try to train my

(01:19:03):
students is just because a study says X, sometimes you
need to read into this study because sometimes there's other
things in there, or just because a university said this happened,
there might be other angles to explore. And so we
work with over one hundred students a year, we were
five hundred students in various media jobs. You name some

(01:19:23):
of the places that they're at, and I really, you know,
really big focus on primary sources, getting comment, getting analysis,
not just asking the same five people who are conservative
or common every time, but really trying to get a
large picture of what's going on so people can make

(01:19:44):
their own decisions about the situation on college campuses or
legislation or various studies.

Speaker 2 (01:19:52):
You know, I'm glad you mentioned all of that because
we had a guest on yesterday who said that we're
seeing a trend of young people moving actually to the
right in politics, not because it's the right, but because
they're looking for truth. Do you find that to be

(01:20:12):
what's going on with your students, is they come into
journalism they're tired of being why too.

Speaker 3 (01:20:19):
I mean, for my students, it's a bit of a
small set because they're coming to write for a center
right organization. I will say, I think I've had four
female students in the past couple of years who have
already gotten married. So that's a positive trend. I think
if you see what's going on with social media, if
you see the interest in you know, real food, questioning

(01:20:41):
big pharma, you know, shows like Alex Clark on Turning
Point USA. There's an interest in this return to, if
you want to call it, localism, homesteadying, traditional values. I
think a lot of people are seeing that what's going
on with just focusing on careerism or just focusing on

(01:21:01):
making money is not a good long term plan. And
there's nothing wrong with having a job. Of course, we
need to work to eat, Saint Paul says, But you know,
there there's sort of this refocusing on what really matters,
and a job is a way to provide for your family,
but it's not the be all end all. And so

(01:21:23):
I'm saying this kind of more more broadly, and and
I think it's a good trend.

Speaker 2 (01:21:29):
Uh. You know, some of these stories are just shocking.
One au SU professor condemns the anti trafficking movement as
deviant framing of sex workers. I mean, what is that
He's calling them racist? What is that?

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
So? Professor Crystal Jackson teaches at Arizona State University and
one of my other editors, Gabrielle Tennant, actually she lives
near areas. She covers a lot of these events, and
there was an event it was called let me sure
get the name right, the queer ex faculty flash talks
UH and Jackson, who I actually don't know what this

(01:22:14):
professor's true gender is because they use they pronouns. I
guess I just used it too. But they said that
transgender people and sex working people UH, criticizing calling them
deviant UH and and disposable, and then criticized people who
work against human trafficking. And this is the trend among

(01:22:37):
liberals and even some libertarians, is to call uh prostitution
sex work because work has a positive connotation and prostitution doesn't.
And so they found an ally apparently in this professor
at Arizona State. You know, you can you look her up.
She has this whole long statement about feminism and queer

(01:22:59):
porn and as mail porn. And but this is what
public you know, is what taxis are subsidizing. This is
a public university. And now would be a purple state,
republican state went for Trump by no means a far
left state.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
So have you seen any impacts from this article? I mean,
sometimes when articles come out like this heads role.

Speaker 3 (01:23:25):
Sometimes it takes a while to see the pushback. Sometimes
we've been fortunate We had a story about a big
di I center that was going to open at a
Tennessee university and Senator Marshall Blackburn saw it right away
and that seemed to basically kill it. Other times there's
efforts by the legislators, like in Arizona, and as long

(01:23:46):
as we keep putting these stories out, then as you know,
the university goes to the legislature and says, hey, we
need more money for research. You know, sometimes these legislators
might say, well, does does research mean engineering or does
research mean your sex work talks? Because those two are
not those two are not equal. At the university has
gone to Madison, done a lot of research there, covered

(01:24:09):
it a lot. And what happened, I believe was last
year is the legislature said, Okay, you want more money
for buildings and engineer building raises, totally fine, but you're
going to cut a certain amount of DII staffers in
the next year or two. And so we're not an
activist organization. We're just hoping to report on it and
the legislatures and governors and policymakers can use this information

(01:24:33):
however they like, maybe some leftist legislator in Arizona wants
to fund more of these queer sex work talk. I
mean that that would be their progative.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
I guess as we look through some of the topics
that you've covered, it looks like this is a big
deal on campuses, this whole idea of DEI stuff, because
you have another one and MIT provides event response ambassadors

(01:25:04):
for those upset by d transitioner awareness events, So you know,
it's really honing in on this whole problem that we're
seeing with people not knowing who they are.

Speaker 3 (01:25:22):
Absolutely, so what happened to m I T is there
was an individual who used to identify as a transgender
and this person whose name is Simon Price, is no
longer that way and has a story to share. And
so who's going to speak at M I T. And

(01:25:44):
I guess the university, the assistant the scoring contracts, the
assistant dean of LBG t Q plus Women and Gender Services.
This is another problem. By the way, administrative Bloat sent
out this email saying that they were going to be
wellness ambassadors on hand if anyone was triggered by this,

(01:26:04):
so not technically a violation of his free speech because
they weren't saying shut the event down. But I do
think it frames the issue in the wrong way for students.
I think if this person wanted to address it, the
dean could have said, there's someone coming with a story.
Some of you may not agree with it, but maybe
you'd like to learn more. If you are transgender or

(01:26:26):
you know someone who is, this person's perspective on this
issue might be worth listening to. Or the deancoa has
not said anything at all, and that certainly would have
been fine. I think priming students to be offended, particularly
students at MIT, which is a fairly prestigious university, is
the wrong way to handle this issue.

Speaker 2 (01:26:45):
Going on to the next issue, pro life scholars sue
after discriminatory retractions by academic journal.

Speaker 3 (01:26:54):
So Sage Journal ran several studies, including one that I
believe was their most sit or second most read article,
and two of these were related to the connection between
abortion drug usage and emergency room visits, and they were
actually cited by the federal judge in Texas as part

(01:27:15):
of his order to temporarily block Joe Biden's relaxing of
regulations around these abortion drugs, which are obviously very dangerous
to kill one preborn life, to kill the baby in
the womb, but are also dangerous to the women taking them,
And so they were cited, as sometimes judges do, because

(01:27:38):
part of the dispute was about the relaxing of these
regulations and did to follow the right process. In any case,
the journal retracted these publications under the pretext of well,
they hadn't disclosed that they were pro life scholars, but
they applied different standards when it was Gutmacher Institute. And

(01:28:01):
it's quite bizarre because if you're an academic journal and
a judge cites your research sites of research in your journal,
that's that's prestigious. That it wasn't just read by five
other people. And I think something what like ninety percent
of academic papers are never cited by some someone else.
So the fact that a judge looked at that and

(01:28:22):
saw that it was worthy of inclusion in this very
topic should be a matter of pride. They should have been,
you know, happy that because it also gives legitimacy to
their journal that a federal judge says, Okay, something was
in this journal. I think this is a legitimate publication.
I think what they have here seems to stand up

(01:28:44):
beyond that there are contractual agreements, and the authors who
was canceled was an editor on this journal, and as
often happens, or as it can happen, you know, he
was praised the paper said great work, this is getting
a lot of attention, and then it was retracted. And
so now they're sort of suing because there are agreements

(01:29:04):
on how you're allowed to retract a paper. You can
imagine this is very damaging to a scholar to have
a paper retracted, and so we need to be very
careful because to have a paper retracted makes it look
like they were sloppy, or they plagarized, or they committed fraud,
and that's not what happened at all in this case.

Speaker 2 (01:29:25):
Well, you know, I'm going to move on to another
one of these things that kind of fits into this
whole DEEI thing. And yet you think, why does it
fit there? And that's Palestine. Why would we even why
are we even there? You said, the University of Michigan's

(01:29:46):
funds Anti Racism project on come modification of the land
in Palestine.

Speaker 3 (01:29:56):
So what's worth noting here too, is the University of
Michigan in October or institute something called institutional neutrality, and
it's the idea that universities should not take stances on
political issues unrelated to their operations. So obviously, if the
legislature is going to cut funding to the University of Michigan,

(01:30:16):
completely reasonable they would want to weigh in or even
things related to like student visas and maybe unionization rules
and health insurance and pay that would affect a major employer.

Speaker 4 (01:30:29):
That would be.

Speaker 3 (01:30:29):
Reasonable for them to have an opinion. But they continue
to pour millions of dollars into these anti racism projects
and DEI, which in my opinion, is violating at least
the spirit of institutional neutrality because you can't say we're
not going to take a stance on a controversial political issue.

(01:30:49):
And here's thousands of dollars to this graduate student to
study commodification land in Palestine. But very obviously the sort
of the subtle message is it's an anti Israel project.
If this graduate student and he appears to be from
Jordan and have family in the region, wants to study
this certainly impertinent topic, but I don't think if it's

(01:31:13):
committed to not taking sides, should be funding this study.
And they're actually funding his travel back home because he's
going to go back there and study it. It's sort
of this mission connection to and also in Detroit, which
I guess he's the Detroit campus. He's also an architecture student,
so it's sort of injecting politics into what should be
a non political field.

Speaker 2 (01:31:35):
Well, it sounds like an interesting way to get home,
and then you wonder if you're going to see him
on the battlefield in these days. It's kind of alarming.
But with that, we're going to go to a commercial break.
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(01:32:18):
that has been that have been written by the College Fix.
And it's very interesting to see what they're concentrating on
as they find the truth in these matters. So don't
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Speaker 1 (01:33:34):
And welcome back. Welcome back to the Conservative Commander's Radio
show with Sharon Angle and you're truly Rick Trader com
a tee from the Mypillar Studios and my store studios
of the aun TV network. So what's on tap for
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Loyal content from the Media Research Center, it's all here
on the au N TV network. So as they always say,
don't turn that dial. And I want to thank our
guests for sticking with us. And that's Matt Lamb. He's

(01:34:19):
an associate editor for The College Fix. And Hey, Matt,
we want to thank you for holding through that break.
We really appreciate your time. Just looking at your resume,
you've had a very interesting career in journalism yourself and
turning point usay open the books, you know, students for life.

(01:34:43):
Where has real journalism gone in America? Sharon and I
talk about this all the time that there's so few
real investigative journalists out there. Wanted to get your take
on that.

Speaker 3 (01:35:00):
Well, I can say that a big influence on my
journalism interests. I got, you know, really interested in politics
during the Tea Party movement and I was in I
was in college when a lot of that was starting.
And uh, I have Andrew Breitbart's book right Just Indignation
and Adam and Jefski God Rest his Soul was a

(01:35:22):
friend Andrew Breitbart, and uh, and I was able to
go to his way because I don't live I live
near Illinois, so I was able to parent respects a
couple months ago. So from when I tell from journalism,
I mean, I think a lot of this grassroots stuff,
local websites, bloggers, that's a lot of what Andrew Breitbart saw.

Speaker 1 (01:35:42):
You know.

Speaker 3 (01:35:42):
At the college Fix, we sort of have our our
niche and we focus on fact based journalism. And one
of the things I really really try to get students
to do is a big peppy of mine is used
primary sources, and we cover hate crime, hoaxes. We cover
hate crime, you know, maybe semi hoaxes. And a lot

(01:36:02):
of times these local news outlets or national news outlets,
you'll love stories about a video of someone saying offensive
but they never tell you what was said and they
never show you the video. And I think a lot
of times if readers, listeners, consumers, media would demand that
the actual sources be shown to you that if you're

(01:36:24):
going to accuse someone of being racist or sexist, you
need to define your terms and you need to show
the proof. And so that's something I hope to really
really help my students as they go on to write
for a number of publications, to get better at and

(01:36:45):
it's it's okay, sorry, good, No, it's okay to have sorry,
it's okay, it's okay to have an angle, but be
honest about it. By now, the Republicans pounce is I mean,
it's almost just a bad joke that you know, Biden
does something, Republicans pounce on it. Well, they're just responding

(01:37:07):
to it. He's a Democrat president. Of course Republicans are
going to respond to it. And so I think the
more we study language, too, we'll get a better idea
of what's going on in the media.

Speaker 1 (01:37:20):
Now talking about hooks is stuff like this. One of
the articles that is in the Daily Fixes, one about
the nward carved into a student's chest wasn't a hate
crime but actually a consensual prank. I mean, first of all,
where are these people's minds? But what's the story about.

Speaker 3 (01:37:43):
So this is a story actually I worked on for
a while. It's a bit tough because it's sensitive topic,
but essentially, a student at Gettysburg College claimed that his
fellow teammate carved the N word into his chest, and
sometimes a New Year story, he say, well, that's so shocking,
that's so terrible. How is that happening in America in

(01:38:06):
twenty twenty four, And often the answer is because it's
not happening in America in twenty twenty four. He did
have it carved into him. But what I've been seeing
online and again take videos on TikTok and online for
what they're worth. But I spoke to people, I spoke
to someone at Gettysburg College, and certainly the allegation sort

(01:38:30):
of makes sense that they were probably drinking and this
was sort of like a prank. And then what happened
is he went to the swim practice and the coaches
found out about it, and in order to not in
trouble for doing this stupid thing, he changes story. And

(01:38:50):
the thing I want to point out is that the
family stopped talking to the NAACP, and they specifically said,
we're not going to go to the police, which we
can maybe guess why we're gonna go to the NAACP
which can interview people. They don't have any sort of
subpoena power. I mean the NAACP said, well, they never
they stopped talking to us. And what's also worth noting

(01:39:13):
is that the Gettysburg College Student newspaper has known about
this now for about two weeks. They have more power
than I do because it's a small campus, so they
can find this student say are these allegations true, what
really happened? It wouldn't be that hard. I can't do that.
I don't live in Pennsylvania. But so far they haven't.
In fact, the university recently held a couple of town

(01:39:36):
hall events where they referred to this racial incident, even
though for months now it's been suspicious. I mean, the
university president even said, this is a very nuanced case
and no matter the motivation, this is still bad. Why
would you say that if someone went up to you
on the street and assaulted you and took your wallet,

(01:39:56):
you wouldn't say, well, no matter the motivation, it would
bean No. It's just it's objectively wrong to assault someone
and take and take their stuff. I think this deserves
for the investigation. I think the Gettysburg College Student newspaper
needs to do more because they actually have more power
than I do be campus and they can demand answers.
But I think this is very uncomfortable for them to address.

Speaker 1 (01:40:18):
Do you get tips from students on college campuses about
different events or news items?

Speaker 3 (01:40:25):
We get from readers from students. People can go to
the college Texts dot com and there's the content information
for our editors. This one came across from a Google alert.
The original story was picked up by CNN all these
national publications, of course, because it fits a narrative. I've
reached actually out to a lot of these publications. They

(01:40:45):
say they need to look into it further, and I'm
not sure if any of them have, but you know,
I so we get touch from all over from social media,
and we always like when people send us ideas as well.

Speaker 1 (01:40:59):
Hey, Matt, see anything that looks recognizable to you.

Speaker 3 (01:41:03):
Yeah, it's a great website.

Speaker 1 (01:41:05):
It is, And you know, Matt, I'm looking at some
of the stories and some of the stories are really
really interesting. Black male students more likely to say no
to a female president, and a lot of great a
lot of great stories here. Write for us. You've got

(01:41:26):
right over here, you got right for us. Talk with
us about how somebody who is interested in journalism can
contact you, can contact the Daily Fix, can become a student,
could become a writer for the College Fix. Give us
a four one one.

Speaker 3 (01:41:44):
Yeah, So any college student who's interested in trying out
journalism writing, even if you think you're going to go
into another field, can reach out to us. Just click
on the right for us, or just reach out to
an editor. We're very big tent conservative in that way.
But you know, you should have some sort of issue
you're passionate about, whether it's pro life, free speech, combating

(01:42:06):
di you know the influence of foreign countries on higher education,
and you can come right for us and we'll pay
you money, which is always is always nice. And if
you're one of our top students, we offer paid fellowships
three times a year, so you can get paid money
to go to DC and intern for the Washington Examiner,

(01:42:30):
to go to New York maybe for Fox News, go
to d c C for Daily call Er, Free Beacon,
Reason magazine. You know, like I said, very big tent.
You know, well, if you want to go right for
the more neo conservative Bulwark, fine, if you want to
go right for more libertarian Reason magazine, great. You know,
we're just looking to support a wide range of center

(01:42:52):
right publications. I think we've had great success with that.
Philip Wegman, one of our alumni, is in the White
House press room. He writes for a Real Clear Politics.
We got to be a national review, I said, watching Examiner,
Fox News, and yeah, at the bottom you can see
that apply for journalism fellowships. You don't have to write

(01:43:13):
for us to do a journalism internship. So if you
know a college student, or you are a college student
and maybe you write for your student newspaper, or you
write for you know, another publication, but you want to
pay a paid fellowship, you can apply to do it.
We're happy to support you. And if you want to
just keep up the college fix, you know, you can

(01:43:35):
see the email sign ups. That's always great. Helps us
avoid big tech censorship. But we are on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, TikTok,
all the alternative platforms. And if you run you know,
an alumni group, a free speech group, you're just a
concerned parent, a donor trustee. We want to hear from
you two about what's going on in your college campus,

(01:43:55):
and we're happy to look into those stories.

Speaker 1 (01:43:58):
You know, Matt Rvis Pruce in your website. I saw
this story that Sharon and I have talked about. You're
in conservative commanders Boise State women's volleyball forfeits against San
Jose State and its male athletes are do you think
situations like this are really saying to college students, you

(01:44:22):
guys don't know what you're you're you're wanting or talking
about with these DEI woke agendas.

Speaker 3 (01:44:34):
I think this is an issue where there's a lot
of opening for conservatives if you look at the polling,
I mean even some of the analysis after the election,
the issue of men in girls sports was a big
winner for Trump, as well as the transgender surgery issues.

(01:44:56):
I mean, I said, look, if you want a legal
immigrant prisoners, you get free transgender surgeries. Kamala Harris was
your candidate. Trump made it clear that's not something he
stood for. This has been out there for years. Years ago.
I was on a call, a political planning call, where
a group said one of the best polling issues for
US is this transgender issue. And I was so glad

(01:45:18):
to see conservative and moderate Republicans Governor Lombardo, Governor Cox,
Governor Little stand up on this on this very important
issue because it gets to you know, Michael Knowles will
say we're either going to let men in girls' bathrooms
or we're not. There's no there's no sort of middle

(01:45:41):
ground where, you know, on other issues, you know, okay,
well we'll give amnesty to some people, but they were
gonna support the criteman. There's no sort of way to
You're either gonna either men can use girls' spaces or
they can't. And on this issue, I think because the
female players stood strong and because there was pressure and
they had political supports work, you know, essentially they won

(01:46:02):
by forfeiting. As paradoxical as that sounds.

Speaker 1 (01:46:06):
Yeah, again, Matt, I'm looking at some of the headlines,
great headlines. I'm sure there are great interesting articles, articles
that you have a lot of interest, articles that are
really really in the news. Matt Lamb. Before we let
you go, we want you to give our viewers and
listeners to for one one, not just about the College Fix,

(01:46:30):
but how people could again write for the College Fix,
become one of your students. Give us the for one one,
the wherewithal, what it takes and the questions. I'm not
asking that you wouldn't you'd be you'd have the questions.

Speaker 3 (01:46:47):
Matt, Yeah, for sure. So you can write for the
College fix. All you just have to go is click
on write for us or contact reach Out. You can
email me directly. It's just m lamb La be at
the College picks dot com and we'll get you started.
You know. I tell students try to write one or
two articles a month. I think that's a good goal.

(01:47:09):
We'll pay you, we'll help you find an article, we'll
help you with the questions, will train you. You get
paid to learn how to write. Being Catholic, I sort
of use the term of like discernment. Try it for
three months and you may realize I don't really want
to go in to journalism. You may raiz I like journalism.
I'm still going to be an engineer. I think writing
skills are really applicable across the board. You see people

(01:47:33):
you know like Jonathan Durley. He's an attorney, but he's
also sort of a journalist. I mean he does commentary,
he goes on Fox News, he writes for The Hill.
I have students who are engineers, and it's great because
they understand a lot of the statistical terms and studies
that I don't understand. We have students who are law students,
and that's great. They can decode free speech, lawsuits and

(01:47:55):
police reports maybe better than I can. If you want
us to journalism, that's fine. I'm certainly actually not super
keen on journalism school. I mean, I say, great degrees
in general.

Speaker 1 (01:48:09):
For journalism that is very interesting.

Speaker 3 (01:48:12):
Yeah, I would say journalism teaches you how to be
a journalist. Now, if you go to some schools have
degrees called like communications studies or broadcast arts. So if
you learn how to do like video editing, graphic design,
photo editing, that's totally great. You could probably just take
a few classes or do something through like Adobe or Canva.

(01:48:34):
I think good degrees to be a journalist is study
what you want to write about. If you want to
cover the New York Stock Exchange, then you should go
study accounting or finance so you understand the terms. If
you want to cover the Supreme Court, then maybe you
should get a law degree or political science degree. I
study political science, economics, Catholic studies, and a lot of

(01:49:00):
degrees lend themselves. Journalism doesn't have to be just news reporting.
If you study theology, writing is a great way to
make money because you can write books, you can write
about religion, you can provide social commentary, so economics, philosophy, theology,

(01:49:20):
anything where you have to take a lot of information
and condense it to six hundred words is a is
a good Is it a good program?

Speaker 1 (01:49:28):
In my opinion, Matt Lamb, I'm sure like we found you, buddy.
I really am like, uh, the whole idea of College
Fix and journalism, the true journalism, real investigative journalism is
something that Sharon and I have talked about here in
Conservative Commands that it's that it's really a low start.

(01:49:49):
I'm glad to see the college Fixes out there. You know,
you're you're bringing on these these young seat students. You're
giving them them opportunity to write now with Conservative Commanders
and say you and you can give you have an
opportunity for them to come and talk about what they write.
But we want to thank you so much for joining

(01:50:10):
us here in Conservative Commandos again. Give give out the
website and how people could reach.

Speaker 3 (01:50:17):
You, the Collegefix dot com. Most of our social media
handles are some version of that. We're on Rumble, we're
on YouTube, we're on all the social media platforms. You know.
Please like us sign up for our newsletter. We send
it out twice a week. We promise don't spam you.
We don't really ask for money that often. And you know,

(01:50:40):
just getting I mean, if you if you have a
if you know a college student, or you're a college student,
send them our way. I mean, sometimes it's better to
work with the community college students and someone at Harvard
UH and we're willing to train you. There's a lot
of opportunities. I started as a student reporter for the
College Fix when I was at Loyola. Got to write
a lot of great stories. That experience helped me when

(01:51:01):
I work for Turning Point Understanding the Media. It helped
me when I worked with students for Life and then
you know, I came back to the College Fix is
a full time job. We're full time paid editors. A
lot of experience. Our editors have written for California newspaper,
Weekly Standard, the Daily Caller, Life News, I write for

(01:51:23):
Life Site, News, Headline USA Human Life Review, written for
Washington Examiner, The Federalist town Hall. John Miller, president runs
a journalism program at Hillsdale, writes National Review, Wall Street Journals.
So we know what we're doing and we want to
impart that. And I tell people, if you don't want
to read bad journalism for the rest of your life,

(01:51:43):
support us in any way. Money's all, send us tips,
send us students. Everyone could probably find some way to
help us out.

Speaker 1 (01:51:51):
Well, we're so glad that that we ran a cars
to Matt Limb. Hopefully we can make this a regular
their segment here on The Conservative Commandos that you could
come on talk about the articles that you've published on
College Fix and also, as I said, maybe we have

(01:52:11):
some of your writers on too.

Speaker 3 (01:52:14):
Thank you so much for reaching out to us.

Speaker 1 (01:52:16):
Matt Lan the College Fix. We want to thank you
so much for joining us. Take care and God bless
you too. And you are listening to and watching The
Conservative Commandos with Sharon Angle, I'm Rick dreador good night
where Sharon and I'll be back with more news and
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Speaker 2 (01:57:32):
Oh, I surely will. And it is always an honor,
as you say, to be able to thank our guests.
I want to thank our first guest, of course, William Jacobson,
who's a clinical professor of law at Cornell Law School
and founder of the legal insurrection website Critical Race dot org.

(01:57:56):
We talked to him about this drawing from the d
DEI agenda, especially of Walmart and what's behind that. So
I found it to be amazing that it's kind of
going along with what we've been finding out in the
last few weeks since the election, that people are tired

(01:58:19):
of this agenda and they are pushing back and they're
causing businesses to rethink their model. Our second guests that
I'd like to thank was a brand new guest, Matt Lamb,
who's an associate editor for The College Fix, and we
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have been writing for different outlets, and it's basically just
young people learning how to be journalists again, not opinion writers.

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