KCAA: Controlled Chaos with Gary Garver (Wed, 20 Aug, 2025)

KCAA: Controlled Chaos with Gary Garver on Wed, 20 Aug, 2025

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Control chaos, Yeah, Garry Garver, Jim does Yeah.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
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M Yo Empire, your empire, Empire. It is chaos.

Speaker 4 (00:50):
This is control chaos right here on k C A
A ten fifty A M one O six point five
f M in the Inland Empire. Gary Garby, it is
a hump day, yeah.

Speaker 5 (01:02):
Because you know this radio station is no bomb.

Speaker 4 (01:06):
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they finally rolled some grass in there.

Speaker 3 (01:29):
It looks green.

Speaker 6 (01:30):
Man.

Speaker 4 (01:31):
I'm getting ready to put it on the market. Yeah,
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today's show, like I promised, I'm gonna play my last
phone call with Howard Stern. This happened in two thousand

(01:52):
and nine. I worked for Howard from nineteen ninety one
to two thousand and eight. We had a huge falling
out and he called me out of the Blue In
two thousand and nine, I was living in Studio.

Speaker 3 (02:09):
City, right by Cassavega.

Speaker 4 (02:11):
I had partied all night at Cassavega and I got
a call it like five point thirty in the morning
from Stern. And it's debatable about how that call went.
Some people think I did great. I just listened to
it yesterday because I had to edit it. It's it's uncut.

(02:33):
It's like forty minutes long. It's uncut, except I had
to take out the F words and the S words
and all.

Speaker 3 (02:39):
The swear words. But this is the true story.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
This is the real story behind why I was let
go by the Stern Show. And it's fascinating to hear
it because I haven't heard the call in many, many years,
many years. I even forgot about some of the stuff.
But come up next, Yes, it's gonna be commercial free.

(03:04):
Right after this commercial free, it's gonna be Garver versus Stern.
The last phone call I had with Howard in two
thousand and nine, I have not heard the show, have
not listened to the show since then. I don't know
what's going on during this last call, Howard says, I
could call into the show and you know, plug my stuff,

(03:25):
which I never did not one time after this called it.
I called The Stern Show and asked them to plug
any of my stuff. I just like said, screw it, FM,
I'm done, and they're done with me too, except for
I got a I did get a Christmas card out
of the blue.

Speaker 3 (03:42):
In twenty twenty two is the year my.

Speaker 4 (03:44):
Brother passed, and I got a really strange Christmas card
that said remember us inside of it.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
And that's aid from Howard Beth two cats and a Rabbit.

Speaker 7 (04:00):
King.

Speaker 3 (04:00):
I can't make this stuff up.

Speaker 4 (04:01):
So anyways, here's my last call after the break, my
last call with the Howard Stern Show and Howard Stern.
And this will be the real reason I got I
got let go, And there was many reasons, but I mean.

Speaker 3 (04:15):
Whatever it is, what it is, so I figured I
play it.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
So coming up next, it's Garver versus Stern right here
on the Control Chaos Radio show.

Speaker 3 (04:25):
Baba booe babba booie. Oh my, ohm, I yeaes the
real story coming up next?

Speaker 8 (04:32):
Oh my, it's Controlled Chaos Stomping the Ie and the
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Speaker 6 (07:26):
Blake Shelton Man?

Speaker 3 (07:27):
What made you family?

Speaker 12 (07:29):
I had a I'm nominated for a favorite New Country artist.

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Hey, why are so many more rap artist committing crimes
and country artists?

Speaker 13 (07:36):
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Speaker 14 (07:37):
I don't know.

Speaker 6 (07:38):
I can't answer that.

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Speaker 3 (07:43):
Ah, you know I'm not getting into that.

Speaker 15 (07:44):
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Speaker 6 (07:53):
It's Garry Garden.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
I just love that question.

Speaker 4 (07:59):
I just love that question and one of many crazy
questions I asked for the.

Speaker 3 (08:03):
Howard Stern Show over the course of eleven years. So
right now, what I'm gonna do is.

Speaker 4 (08:13):
I'm gonna play the last call I had with Howard
two thousand and nine where he woke me up and
we get into a discussion about why he fired me.
It's very interesting. I haven't heard it in like years.
So without further adial a deal here, it is the

(08:38):
last call with Howard Stern.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
I have Gary Garber on the phone, who has done
so many great interviews for us out in Los Angeles.

Speaker 6 (08:50):
His name though, well, I did Hey Gary Howard? So
I heard Gary. Gary went on an internet program with about.

Speaker 7 (09:00):
Seven I actually have a show.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
Yeah, he has a show. But some Chinese girl was
interviewing Gary. I don't know what the show is. It's
on the internet. But he spent about twenty minutes talking
about me. And you know, I really like Gary a lot.
But the guy is completely lost.

Speaker 8 (09:16):
What did he say?

Speaker 6 (09:16):
So I forget I would tell.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Him to his face rather than than First of all,
the ninety percent of it is Gary is upset because
we we fired him. First of all, he wasn't a
full time employee of our show. Gary went out, We
would send him out everyone. He was a freelancer. Gary
very brilliantly went out and interviewed lots of people for us,
and he is a very good guy and I like him.

(09:39):
But you know, Gary has got hurt feelings. And I'll
play you what he said about me, and I really
I resent what he said.

Speaker 6 (09:47):
I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 7 (09:49):
Hold On, Howard, hold on.

Speaker 6 (09:50):
I'm going to tell you how I feel telling you
how you hold on. You said horrible things about me.

Speaker 7 (09:56):
I did say anything that horrible.

Speaker 6 (09:58):
Well, I'm going to play it. I got it on Teke.

Speaker 7 (10:00):
I said you're the greatest broadcaster of all time, that
you're the Michael Jordan of Radio.

Speaker 6 (10:05):
Gary's beef.

Speaker 2 (10:06):
Gary's beef with me is well, I'm gonna tell you,
tell me if I'm wrong.

Speaker 7 (10:11):
Hold on, man. First of all, you know, I'm still
drunk from last night.

Speaker 16 (10:15):
So I mean, come on, when did he make these statements?

Speaker 10 (10:18):
Was he drunk at the time.

Speaker 6 (10:19):
I don't think he was drunk.

Speaker 7 (10:20):
I wasn't drunk. I wasn't drunk that night.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
I like Gary, but I really feel Gary has not
gotten much of a guidance in his life from the
people around them and his family.

Speaker 17 (10:29):
What.

Speaker 6 (10:30):
Yeah, I didn't, come on.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
Man, No, No, you know what, Howard? You know if
you even do this to me.

Speaker 6 (10:35):
I'm not going to do. I'm going to tell you
what you said and how I feel about it. How's
that do?

Speaker 7 (10:39):
And you're gonna let me and you're gonna let me
tell you how I feel too. Yes, Okay, So we're
gonna have it because I love you, and I worked
with you for eighteen years. Yes, busting my hold on,
hold on, I busted my ass for you, and what
I said there, most of it was true, but I
didn't put you down.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
I mean, all right, So Gary was upset with me
because Gary worked with us. You know, Gary was a
guy who worked at KALSX in Los Angeles.

Speaker 7 (11:09):
Tell the truth?

Speaker 6 (11:10):
Am I lying?

Speaker 7 (11:12):
No, I'm listening to I'm so.

Speaker 2 (11:15):
Gary got on and said that he was angry with
me because I never got on the air and told
the audience that I fired him.

Speaker 6 (11:25):
Now the reason Gary.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
I never got on the air and told the audience
that I fired you. Generally, in our business, being fired
isn't a good thing.

Speaker 7 (11:36):
It doesn't matter though.

Speaker 2 (11:38):
Wait, let me finish you. You've been waiting for an explanation.
I'm going to give it to you, okay, out of respect,
out of respect to you, because I like you and
you've been very, very nice to me, and I happened
to really enjoy you and enjoy your work. I felt
that the nice thing to do.

Speaker 6 (11:57):
Was not go on the air and say, Gary Garver.

Speaker 2 (12:00):
In my opinion, is out of control and can't be
controlled and shouldn't be hired by other radio stations. That's
what That's a signal to them. People listen to me,
and I wanted to get something. I wanted to give
you an opportunity, gracefully to go on with your life.
Why would I want to go point out to the
audience that you had to be let go?

Speaker 7 (12:22):
I am first of all, Howard, are you gonna let
me talk?

Speaker 6 (12:25):
Sure? Go ahead, I have to explain to the audience
what's going on.

Speaker 7 (12:28):
Well, I have gone on with my life because I
haven't worked for you for a year and a half. Right, okay,
So second off, you know what to say that I
shouldn't be hired by any other radio stations. Complete bulls.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
I didn't Cherry, Garry, let me explain to you. I
didn't say I think you should be hired by another
radio station.

Speaker 7 (12:47):
It'd be nice because nobody will hire me.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
But then you go on the air and you say
because of Howard Stern. No one will hire me, Gary,
that's absurd. The guy who had the job before you, stuttering,
John was hired by Jay Lenno, one of the most
successful comedians in the country.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
Yeah, but you know what the difference between me and
John was, John was in New York. Everybody you know Howard.
Let me let me just say something. Everybody thinks that
I lived in New York, that I was a big
part of your show in New York. Who I've never
lived in New York. Who I mean, don't have.

Speaker 6 (13:17):
To do What does that guy to do with anything?

Speaker 7 (13:19):
But because because John was on the show every day,
he had exposure every day. People wanted his num work
every day. I was periodically on your show.

Speaker 2 (13:30):
That's right, Gary, you were barely on my show. You
weren't a full time employee of the show.

Speaker 6 (13:34):
You were guys. I point out that you were fired,
so you weren't.

Speaker 2 (13:37):
You know, It wasn't something I was going to go
on the air and say to going, Gary Garver's been fired.

Speaker 10 (13:41):
Listen.

Speaker 6 (13:43):
Why would I go on the air and say that
and try to hurt you.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Because trying to help you, it didn't help me because
I couldn't get a job anyways, Gary, I.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
Don't think it's because you worked here. This is the
most successful radio program in the world.

Speaker 6 (13:59):
That's a that's a good thing.

Speaker 7 (14:01):
You're taking once one statement, I.

Speaker 6 (14:04):
Said, I'm taking every statement.

Speaker 7 (14:06):
Okay, Well, then they take all the statements. So I said,
should I play it?

Speaker 2 (14:09):
Should I play what you said about me? All right,
let's play it. Let's go through what you said. Since
you want air time, here's what here's.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
I don't want airtime. Oh mang up, I want he
woke me up. I'm sleeping. This is I'm totally at
disamage with the grist broadcaster of all time.

Speaker 6 (14:24):
No, listen, listen, let's play.

Speaker 7 (14:27):
I said, you're the grist broadcaster of all time, Garry.

Speaker 2 (14:29):
Let's play what you said. Let's play what you said
while you're awake. This is you were fully away. Here's
what you said about you.

Speaker 18 (14:36):
Guys.

Speaker 14 (14:36):
Don't want to hear it out. I don't care.

Speaker 6 (14:39):
It doesn't matter you guys, and you.

Speaker 1 (14:41):
Can go right out.

Speaker 3 (14:42):
That's how we're gonna do. How's he gonna hurt my career?

Speaker 14 (14:45):
Don't we ruin my career?

Speaker 4 (14:46):
I can't because I worked at the Howard Still.

Speaker 6 (14:48):
I ruined his career. I can't get because I had
nothing to do with your career.

Speaker 2 (14:55):
If you were the guy who called me and kept saying, Howard,
can you throw me some work?

Speaker 6 (14:58):
And I said, of course, I'll come through ruining your career.

Speaker 7 (15:02):
Power. Come on, man, you know what. I went out
there and busted my ass on those interviews. Okay, you
did a great job. I don't know what to tell you,
so listen, don't don't twist my words by taking certain excellent.

Speaker 2 (15:15):
All right, I'm not no, I'm playing the whole thing.
Here we go, let's keep going.

Speaker 7 (15:19):
You're gonna play thirty minutes.

Speaker 6 (15:21):
Okay, I'll play the whole thing here it is.

Speaker 7 (15:23):
You're not gonna do that.

Speaker 14 (15:25):
Associated with that show.

Speaker 18 (15:26):
And everybody in radio hates his guts.

Speaker 6 (15:29):
You understand this.

Speaker 7 (15:31):
He said that Power hated.

Speaker 6 (15:34):
Everyone in radio hates my guts.

Speaker 7 (15:36):
Hey, you've even said that people. Yeah, because of what
you've done, what you've accomplished in your.

Speaker 2 (15:41):
Career, Gary, Gary is what is everyone hating my guts?
Have to do with the fact if they're all jealous
of me, they should only want to hire the people
who work with me.

Speaker 7 (15:50):
They wouldn't Power when I put up your name on
these radio stations and why it's you know it, Okay,
people are very jealous.

Speaker 6 (16:00):
Of either they are jealous of me.

Speaker 7 (16:02):
They're jealousy because of what you've a called.

Speaker 16 (16:06):
Back at Howard through not hiring you.

Speaker 7 (16:08):
I think I shouldn't get away yet. Yes, I really
believe that. Yes, I do believe that. Yes, I do
believe that in.

Speaker 6 (16:15):
The radio business. For what he's done.

Speaker 7 (16:19):
Okay, now I was I had.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Like his broadcasting style like they've done to people that.

Speaker 6 (16:25):
He said about people that he's done.

Speaker 18 (16:28):
He went from you know, just all he's just a
very you know what what you know, people are.

Speaker 6 (16:32):
Jealous of him and what he's asked.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
There's yeah, because they're very jealous of what he's got,
you know, which I think is bully.

Speaker 4 (16:39):
You know, we should be jealous of what other people have.

Speaker 6 (16:41):
You earned it.

Speaker 14 (16:42):
He deserves what he got.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
But the bottom eyes, I'm just telling you what then
happened to me.

Speaker 7 (16:47):
Okay, and you guys don't want to hear it in tune.

Speaker 14 (16:50):
Now, what's Howard's gonna do to me? Howard can't do
nothing to me.

Speaker 19 (16:55):
You are basically bear me bears not even thank you, okay,
but not even a day if he was or you
gonna you know, and nobody, even everyone, some people would
even God, you'd.

Speaker 6 (17:07):
Hang out with Howard. I never hung out with him.

Speaker 7 (17:10):
I wasn't good enough to hang out with the Howard
Stern people.

Speaker 4 (17:13):
I wasn't good enough to hang out with Howard Stern.

Speaker 6 (17:15):
Okay.

Speaker 18 (17:16):
So you know, when when everybody is talking about this
greatness of Howard and how great he is and how
he takes care of his people, he doesn't take care
of it.

Speaker 3 (17:27):
He takes care of a few people, okay, but he
didn't take care of me.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
He didn't even call me.

Speaker 3 (17:34):
You understand, he had bamboo.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
Okay, a good, we're doing the follow We can't.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
Work with you no more.

Speaker 10 (17:42):
You know.

Speaker 18 (17:43):
He didn't even have the balls of ask me or
he can say, hey, Garry, I'm sorry, but I have
to let you go.

Speaker 6 (17:49):
He done great work for me.

Speaker 14 (17:50):
You done this nothing, never reached out to me.

Speaker 3 (17:53):
Nothing, zero, nothing.

Speaker 18 (17:55):
Okay, it's hurtful.

Speaker 6 (17:58):
My feeling is this.

Speaker 2 (18:00):
We reached out to Gary many times and said to him, Gary,
you got to range some stuff in.

Speaker 6 (18:07):
It's uh.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
I agree, it's gotten a little crazy out there. We
need you to do this, this and this. We tried
working with Gary. And the reason I never brought it
up on the air is because I thought, out of
respecting Gary was his private business. If Gary wants to
bring it up, that's fine, Gary, But I wasn't going
at Gary.

Speaker 6 (18:23):
I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Get on the air and give away your private business.
I had too much respect for you. I like you,
And the fact of the matter is I would never
do that to you. What you're interpreting as a snub,
you should interpret as a guy who cares.

Speaker 7 (18:36):
Can I Can I say something though, okay, because you
know what, when I went out there and did those
interviews for you, Howard, Okay, I laid my ass on
the line. Now you know those questions were brutal, all right,
you go on and you guys wrote them, and I
went out there and asked them, and of course I
took tons of year. I was like the pariat out there, Okay.
Nobody wanted even the people that love my work, the

(19:01):
pop Rozzi didn't. You didn't even like me, okay. So
when I went out there, I was like, I was
already a villain, man, I was.

Speaker 2 (19:09):
I know that. I thought you did a really good job, Gary.
But the only I'm getting back to your main gripe
with me. Your main gripe with me was that I've
snubbed you by not telling the audience that I that
I that I fired you, right.

Speaker 7 (19:26):
I just wish you guys would have what I would
have wished. Is this okay when that interview went down
a year and a half ago. Okay, Yeah, I've made
a huge mistake. Okay. And by the way, that was
all a full act, okay, because I was trying to
get some material for me.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
I know that you were trying hard, and sometimes when
you're in the.

Speaker 2 (19:44):
Middle of something, you can up that that. But it
was happening too many times.

Speaker 7 (19:48):
Well you know what what happened is with that you
know what you're You're going back to that that interview
with the Dmetri where you guys didn't you know, and
that's what really hurts you, is that you guys didn't
back me with that thing because you never even heard
you didn't never even believe me my side where this
guy was trying to sabotage my work.

Speaker 2 (20:04):
No, I know, but I wanted you to walk away.
I didn't want you to get into I.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
Did walk away six or seven times when the guy
tried to get me thrown out of there. Hold on,
he would try to get me thrown out of these
red covered events. Six or seventh went off for six
or seven months, now, okay. I confronted him one time, okay,
and that was stupid, all right. And then you guys
suspended me for a month, okay.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Because I tried to say to you, Gary, rein it in.
I was begging you. I said, listen, Gary, we want
to work with you. You gotta go think about your approach.

Speaker 6 (20:35):
You're going to get it.

Speaker 2 (20:36):
I was afraid Gary was going to get hurt. I
was afraid Gary was going to get hurt. I was
afraid other people were going to get hurt. I was
using my best judgment with you. I suspended you.

Speaker 6 (20:45):
For a month.

Speaker 7 (20:46):
Hurt, Howard. I'd never guess what in all the twelve.

Speaker 6 (20:49):
I know that, but other people, but you could have
gotten yourself hurt. You will be.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
You were being very confrontational with people to the point what.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Nobody else nobody ever got hurt. I never got into
a fire. I know that not happened.

Speaker 6 (21:02):
I know, but it was like an accident waiting to happen.

Speaker 7 (21:05):
Oh it was not. That's both because I know how
to control myself because I know how to you know what,
I did it for the twelve years, Howard, I wasn't
about that. You know what, when some guy's talk, when
some guys trying to talk, when somebody's trying to take
food out of your mouth, Okay, over and over again,
how are you going to react it? Eventually you're going

(21:25):
to say, hey, mother, you know I'll get off of
it now.

Speaker 6 (21:29):
All I wanted to say to you. All I wanted
to say to you is this.

Speaker 7 (21:32):
Of course you don't want to hear my son.

Speaker 6 (21:34):
I just played your side. I just heard what you
had to say. I just want to say, you played
one minute.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
You played one minute of what I said.

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Well, dah, you want me to play thirty minutes of
a rambling?

Speaker 19 (21:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (21:45):
Yeah, yeah?

Speaker 7 (21:46):
Why don't you talk about the day and the lives
and all that?

Speaker 6 (21:49):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (21:49):
Now, what is a day in the life that you
said that Doug Goodstein sold from you and you're going
to punch him out when you see him and you're
not out of control, You're going to punch.

Speaker 6 (21:56):
A guy out? Yeah, Well, I should I play that?
What is a day in the life?

Speaker 2 (22:01):
No one knows what you're talking about what is the
day in the life?

Speaker 6 (22:05):
I ask you, what is the day in the life?
What is it? We start from it?

Speaker 7 (22:08):
Okay, all right, can I talk?

Speaker 10 (22:10):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (22:10):
Can I talk? Because I'm sure you're gonna cut me off.

Speaker 6 (22:12):
No, go ahead and tell me.

Speaker 7 (22:14):
Okay, The day in the life was a concept I
came up with where I followed the porn star around
for twenty four hours to see how she lived. Okay,
I a doug He liked the idea.

Speaker 6 (22:27):
When did you come up with that?

Speaker 7 (22:28):
I came up with it in July of two thousand
and six.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
So in two thousand and six, you figured out that
by following a person around with a camera twenty four
hours a day, you might get some interesting material.

Speaker 6 (22:39):
No, you came up with that, Yeah, I.

Speaker 7 (22:41):
Came up with a No. I came up with the
porn star concept.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
We've never been that.

Speaker 7 (22:46):
You're gonna hear me or not?

Speaker 6 (22:48):
Yeah, go ahead, let me hear the concept.

Speaker 7 (22:49):
Of course, you don't want to hear my side. We're listening,
going okay, to stop cutting me off.

Speaker 2 (22:56):
All right, I'm answering to you what I'm answering you.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
You didn't come up with that concept, no, offense.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
I did I'm following a porn star around with a camera.

Speaker 7 (23:06):
No, no, I came up with the concept. What happened
is I came up with that concept at that time. Okay.
I readied it with.

Speaker 2 (23:14):
A do you don't have many people, do you know?
Many people come to me with concepts that we're already doing.

Speaker 7 (23:19):
Are you gonna listen to me or not? Are you're
gonna listen to You're not? You're gonna just cut me off.

Speaker 6 (23:24):
I'm gonna have a discussion with you. I'm not gonna
let you fill a buster.

Speaker 7 (23:27):
I'm not filibustering. Just let me. Let me tell you
what happened. Okay, go ahead, Thank you. I love you, Howard.
I do love you. I think you're the grist of
all time. And you know that's it. Okay, it doesn't
matter what else happened. The bottom line is that I
created this idea through you know, you know I left

(23:47):
the radio station A Kala said after you left, Okay,
I wanted to come up with the different ideas for
my career and try to do something different. I came
with this idea day in the life. Basically there was
for five or six months, me and Doug went back
and forth about putting this on Howard TV. Okay, he
never put it on Howard TV and basically took the

(24:08):
idea and used it on the Wackpackers.

Speaker 6 (24:10):
You know, have you been watching reality television?

Speaker 2 (24:15):
How long I've been doing this by following people's everyday lives. Well,
why do you gonna have You know that Mark Cronan
and I were going to do whack pack house about
and about during my television show.

Speaker 6 (24:27):
A w o R called a guy named Mark Cronan
no offense?

Speaker 7 (24:30):
Well why would you call it? Why would you call it?
Why would you call it the same?

Speaker 6 (24:34):
Tell me about who do we do it with?

Speaker 10 (24:37):
Who do we do day in the life with it
that we copied from?

Speaker 7 (24:40):
You did it? I even have miss plack Howardser came
in and showed me the show okay, because she wanted
me to edit it for It's called.

Speaker 2 (24:50):
Reality television documentary, a documentary.

Speaker 6 (24:54):
It's been going on forever, Kerry, you got.

Speaker 15 (24:56):
To never did it with the points on your your
your your your defense is baseless.

Speaker 7 (25:01):
Oh you know what, Tuck, you know what you did?
I got forty emails with you where you were.

Speaker 14 (25:05):
Yeah, I did stuff.

Speaker 10 (25:07):
We've been doing that for years.

Speaker 5 (25:08):
I could, I could show you stuff that precedes your
your concept, which I was hoping to do with you,
which we didn't do.

Speaker 6 (25:13):
By years and years and years.

Speaker 20 (25:15):
Dude, I wouldn't stay if I said I didn't steal.

Speaker 10 (25:18):
It from you.

Speaker 7 (25:19):
Dog, You're gonna listen, Doug, Doug, what's gonna happen. You're
just going to say that you did it out of
the blue when me and you were talking about it
for six months and I got all the emails from you.

Speaker 6 (25:29):
What did we do?

Speaker 3 (25:30):
But what did he do?

Speaker 6 (25:31):
What did he do it? Did he do it? Did he?

Speaker 9 (25:34):
Man?

Speaker 7 (25:34):
But what did he do?

Speaker 6 (25:35):
When? Did he do it? Carry?

Speaker 7 (25:37):
What?

Speaker 6 (25:38):
When did he use your idea with the whack pack?

Speaker 7 (25:41):
No?

Speaker 2 (25:41):
He Because now I'm taking offense because I developed an
idea with Mark Crohn about the whack pack.

Speaker 6 (25:47):
You know what, you stole my idea.

Speaker 7 (25:50):
You stole my idea. You look how you twist.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Everything, man, that I'm not twisting. I'm telling you the truth.

Speaker 7 (25:57):
No, I'm telling you the truth.

Speaker 12 (25:59):
Man.

Speaker 7 (25:59):
The day in the life I had a restaurant with
the Library of Congress.

Speaker 6 (26:03):
We don't, we don't have a show a day in
the life.

Speaker 7 (26:05):
Yeah, you did, you talked about it you did, and
and I.

Speaker 6 (26:08):
Where's the show? Do we have a show? A Day
in the Life. We've done Day in the Life of
We did a weekend with the Christie's. We did a
weekend with Amy Lamb. We did Day in the Life weekend.

Speaker 15 (26:17):
Yeah, we did stuff with you know, we did Day
in Life all the time.

Speaker 6 (26:20):
It's coold job.

Speaker 7 (26:21):
Go back, go back to two thousand and six, two
thousand and seven, See how many episodes you did. A
Day in the Life of Bigfoot, A Day in the
Life of Miss Howard Stern.

Speaker 6 (26:30):
It's called a reality show.

Speaker 15 (26:32):
It's called Donkey What about what?

Speaker 6 (26:35):
Ozzy Osbourne? What about?

Speaker 2 (26:36):
Did you ever get up Gary? Did you ever hear? Well,
listen to me? Maybe you need to listen to someone.

Speaker 6 (26:42):
Did you ever see you ever see.

Speaker 2 (26:43):
The Ozzy Osbourne show? Do you ever see the Day
in the Life of Ozzy Osbourne?

Speaker 7 (26:48):
Yeah? Whatever, Yeah, you.

Speaker 6 (26:50):
Guess you pitch that to Ozzie who sat down in
a room with it.

Speaker 7 (26:53):
Man, laugh at that's funny, that's funny. Laugh at it
when when I laughed.

Speaker 21 (26:58):
When I don't, Hey, you know what that's and you
guys can go.

Speaker 7 (27:00):
Laugh at all off.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
I'm not laughing. I'm not laughing at anything. Gary, Do
you know that? Do you know that I went to
Ozzy Osbourne and said, hey, I think they ought to
follow you around with a camera and follow you throughout
your everyday life?

Speaker 7 (27:13):
Yeah, I know, I know you did that that.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
Wait, so don't you think I have Don't you think
I could lay claim to every reality show out there?

Speaker 7 (27:21):
Probably? How I mean, you're a very innovative person. But
right I'm not. I'm not knocking that. I'm just sorry.

Speaker 2 (27:27):
But anyway, I want to get back to the beef
that you have with me because I don't know anything
about a day in the life because you know what
you get it on.

Speaker 7 (27:33):
You know what's ex That's the one that's the one
thing that really pisses me off that I spent six
months on this thing, going back and forth with Doug. Well,
now like that, I went to my lawyer, we have
a conference call the whole thing. Well, I never got
I never want I never got one penny for that.

Speaker 10 (27:50):
Well do it.

Speaker 11 (27:51):
And the reason we went back and forth for six
months because it's.

Speaker 7 (27:55):
Don't want to talk because if I see it again,
watch out.

Speaker 6 (27:58):
What are you gonna do to it? I hope you
make me up, come punch me your little kid. But
you're a two year old.

Speaker 15 (28:02):
And why why do you have to bring up his religion?
He says, He goes, if I can catch that little jew?

Speaker 6 (28:07):
Yeah, what is that? Gary?

Speaker 10 (28:08):
You did?

Speaker 3 (28:10):
You did?

Speaker 6 (28:10):
You said it?

Speaker 10 (28:11):
You said it.

Speaker 6 (28:11):
I'm offended you did?

Speaker 14 (28:13):
We all heard it.

Speaker 6 (28:14):
If you said it? Said all right, I'm playing for
you here it is.

Speaker 10 (28:18):
Maybe it's the drugs.

Speaker 6 (28:19):
And basically, you.

Speaker 4 (28:20):
Know, he's as like the day in the life that
Doug Goodstein stole from me and blah blah blah, and
you guys stole.

Speaker 6 (28:25):
My d He's like, no, not bot you thought to
thought about it?

Speaker 12 (28:28):
If they ever reached out to you again, which how
would you feel?

Speaker 7 (28:31):
Like? What if they came around and they said nothing.

Speaker 4 (28:34):
I don't want nothing to do with them, okay nothing?

Speaker 19 (28:37):
I mean why are they going to reach out?

Speaker 12 (28:39):
You know?

Speaker 3 (28:39):
I mean, why are they going to reach out?

Speaker 5 (28:41):
Maybe your pass will cross again as you continue to
get you know, you're gonna work hard and continue to grow.

Speaker 7 (28:46):
You never know, they may be like, hey, if I.

Speaker 14 (28:47):
See Doug Goods, You'll punch your mind.

Speaker 18 (28:49):
Wow, if I saw Doug Goods, I take that little
jew bastard.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
With his glasses and choke him. What is that you
didn't say it right?

Speaker 7 (28:59):
I did say that. I don't care.

Speaker 2 (29:03):
Gary, by the way, just a simple internet searches.

Speaker 6 (29:06):
Now.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
Two thousand and five, rapper Nelly was in a Day
in the Life reality show on Reality.

Speaker 14 (29:12):
Life.

Speaker 6 (29:13):
I mean, if you're gonna, if you're gonna lay claim.

Speaker 2 (29:15):
To but Gary, Gary, I don't carry the way. Gary,
I don't carry the way. But the fact of the
matter is that it says here two thousand and five
on MTV Day in the Life of Nelly, Day in
the Life of People.

Speaker 7 (29:30):
All Right, forget that talking about you and I.

Speaker 6 (29:33):
Good, let's talk about me and you.

Speaker 2 (29:35):
Let's talk about me and you. I'm your beef with me,
Your beef with me primarily seemed to be that I
didn't get on the air and say that I dismissed you.

Speaker 6 (29:45):
So now I will say it, I dismissed you. Okay,
do you feel better?

Speaker 7 (29:50):
I don't give anymore.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
But but Gary, the reason I did it, the reason
I'm going to tell you again, I'm gonna try and
explain to you the reason I didn't go on the
air and say I dismissed you. I thought I was
being respectful, which is something you deserve.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
I happen to like you. I think you're a good guy.

Speaker 12 (30:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
If somebody came to me and said, hey, what kind
of guy is Gary Garver? Is he the kind of
guy I won't working on my radio station, I would
say yes. Aside from this, I don't know whether Drew
bastard and taking people's.

Speaker 7 (30:16):
Out hey crazy as a reference.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
Now, you certainly could you always could have. Well, why
is that funny to you?

Speaker 6 (30:24):
I don't know he's can I ask him you lost
your mind?

Speaker 16 (30:27):
I'm gonna say, I think he's a little unbalanced.

Speaker 6 (30:29):
Have you lost your mind about what? Why are you
laughing at that? What's going on with you?

Speaker 7 (30:37):
Because, first of all, Howard, you know how many questions
I had to answer in the past year and a half.
I kept my mouth shut. How people were going, why
aren't you working for Howard showing? Oh? I just you know,
she said you got fired too?

Speaker 10 (30:49):
But why what were you lying about?

Speaker 7 (30:51):
What?

Speaker 10 (30:52):
You should have just said, hey, they let me go?

Speaker 7 (30:54):
I did to me, I just said I wasn't working,
you know. But I'm just saying because people were coming
up to me and asking me things, and guys, you
know what I mean, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (31:04):
Because I was doing it to protect you. I didn't
think it was anybody's business. Why what went down here?
I thought it was private.

Speaker 7 (31:13):
Tell you something. I just say one thing because I
wasn't sure if I was because I would talk to
Tim Sadian every couple of months, going, Hey, what's going
on with al? Let's you know Joe, I want to
come back and work for you guys.

Speaker 10 (31:25):
Well, I can answer that. I can answer that.

Speaker 15 (31:27):
We let you go and I Gary, I spoke to
you about it, and you will you be honest? You
know you keep talking about that that incident you had
with that guy, with that guy, that was the last incident.
We probably spoke to you five or six times over
the years that you were being over zealous and it
was dangerous and that guy was just the last guy.

Speaker 10 (31:41):
Not the not the reason.

Speaker 7 (31:43):
What Gary, if you want to be honest about it,
you really want to be about it. And maybe a
couple of times he did say it in the past,
But but you guys put me out there.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
But we told you you're got to hear me or not.

Speaker 10 (31:56):
It was right.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
We put him out there, right, Gary, I know exactly
just what we gave parameter, but we had to put that.
Yet you have to use sort of common sense, and
I didn't think common sense was being used.

Speaker 10 (32:06):
Something.

Speaker 7 (32:06):
Can I just say one thing? Man with you guys
not interrupting me. I went to maybe over three or
four hundred events over the years at least, okay, so
there was a handful of times that you got out
of control. But guess what, I went out there. I
had to use a fake name. I had. I had
to represent myself who I was with.

Speaker 15 (32:27):
But Gary is one doesn't with the other. We told you, like,
here's here's an incident. Here's an incident.

Speaker 10 (32:33):
I remember, and I remember very vividly.

Speaker 15 (32:35):
You went to an event and they asked you to leave,
and you got into this horrific fight with the security guard.

Speaker 10 (32:40):
And I remember having a conversation hold on. It was
one of those order Gore sides.

Speaker 15 (32:43):
And I remember Howard and I discussed it and I said, listen, Gary,
we love that you go out there, we love that
you're the guy that stirs it up.

Speaker 10 (32:49):
But when they asked you to leave, it's okay.

Speaker 14 (32:51):
Just leave.

Speaker 15 (32:51):
You don't have to fight, you don't have to threaten
to beat this out of them. You can just leave,
And you're like, I know, I know, and we had
no but we had that conversation five or six times, and.

Speaker 10 (33:00):
Then you you were we got the feeling that you
were going to get in a fight.

Speaker 7 (33:03):
That's bullsh it. Never happened nothing ever.

Speaker 10 (33:06):
You know, you told the guy he hoped, you hoped
he died of aids.

Speaker 7 (33:09):
You call the game man die of aid Here you go,
Here you go, Gary, taking one instance, because I told
you earlier, and I told hour earlier that this guy
was trying to get me thrown out at six or seven.

Speaker 10 (33:20):
And what I said was just walk away.

Speaker 6 (33:22):
We were trying to tell you what I did.

Speaker 19 (33:24):
I did well.

Speaker 10 (33:25):
You obviously didn't. You didn't walk.

Speaker 7 (33:27):
Away because this guy kept on right.

Speaker 10 (33:30):
But that's the point. I need somebody to walk away
every time, not just till they along.

Speaker 6 (33:33):
You can't provoke a.

Speaker 7 (33:34):
Guy, you man, That's all I got to say. That's
bulls because you know that I was set up. You
don't even know the truth, Gary, You don't even know
the truth story about what happened with him.

Speaker 10 (33:44):
You're a professional victim.

Speaker 6 (33:46):
Gary. All you do is you just leave.

Speaker 7 (33:49):
You know what I don't need this morning?

Speaker 2 (33:51):
But Gary, we all we wanted you to do is
just listen. Forget, forget the past. Here's what I'm saying
you wanted. I heard the time, and I was a
little shocked by it, and I knew you were upset.
And the reason I'm responding to this is because I think,
in fairness, I don't want you to be upset no more.

Speaker 7 (34:11):
Just now, I just woke up. Now it's five in
LA right here.

Speaker 2 (34:17):
Well, I wanted to give you an extra I wanted.

Speaker 7 (34:20):
To get I wanted to thank you. I'm more upset,
all right.

Speaker 2 (34:23):
Well, I wanted to give you an explanation about why
I never mentioned it on the air.

Speaker 7 (34:27):
I was doing it.

Speaker 2 (34:29):
I was trying to do it out of respect for
the fact that you worked with us for a bunch
of years and that I didn't want to put your
business on the air. Now you seem to be comfortable
with it. You've been going around on these shows.

Speaker 7 (34:43):
I kept my mouth shut. No, first of all, it's fine.

Speaker 6 (34:46):
I'm saying, it's fine. If you want to talk about it,
then if you want to talk about it, then fine,
I'll talk about it. I was trying. I felt it.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I felt I felt it was up to me to
not talk about it. But you seem to be insulted
by the fact that I wasn't talking about Coward, So
I'm talking about.

Speaker 7 (35:05):
About it for all Howard, I didn't talk about it
for a year and a half. I kept my mouth shut,
keep right.

Speaker 6 (35:10):
I thought that's what you'd want.

Speaker 7 (35:11):
Well, you're the one to help in the can of
worms with trying to get the Johnny Flattos and the
direct jerk off of the world to go do it
John and I did. And guess what, let me tell
you something, It ain't that easy. And guess what, You're
not gonna find something as good as.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
John and I absolutely, Gary, I couldn't agree more.

Speaker 6 (35:28):
I think your top shit doing.

Speaker 7 (35:29):
It for me to do it, because it takes a
certain mentality in person, right, and and.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
It takes I think you were really good at it.
I think you were terrific at it. And I'm you
don't have to be angry with Johnny Fratto or Torets
or anyone else.

Speaker 7 (35:43):
I'm mad at any of it. I'm not mad anybody.
But it was when you when you when when after
a year and a half, you finally decide to hard
try to hire somebody else to do this. You know,
after year and a half you're like, Okay, let's try
to find something to do it.

Speaker 2 (35:56):
All right, Well, there's no one as good at it
as you.

Speaker 7 (36:00):
Well, the bottom line is this.

Speaker 2 (36:01):
You heard me say thank you, thank you, and I
hope that that you understand that I'm not pleased that
you're not doing it anymore.

Speaker 7 (36:09):
But it was why didn't you? Didn't you?

Speaker 2 (36:12):
You know, because I felt I felt we were getting
you asked me a question why I didn't stick up
for you?

Speaker 6 (36:18):
I felt I had gone to bat for you about
ten times. Yeah. Really, yeah, Gary, I'm serious, and we and.

Speaker 7 (36:25):
We can put me out there, Howard, Yes, we put.

Speaker 2 (36:28):
You out there, but this job does we because you're
out there with the public. It requires a certain let's
say sensitivity.

Speaker 7 (36:35):
That was one because that guy not.

Speaker 2 (36:39):
The age thing, not just the age thing. There was
a lot of confidence. I was afraid you could get
hurt or someone would get hurt. That's that's honest. No
one ever did. Thank God, Simpson man, right, that was
the best.

Speaker 7 (36:53):
Yeah, I know, so that's I mean that that was
when you when you give me those questions there and
there was like, but listen to me.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
When OJ says leave and you think you're in a
situation where this guy's agitated, you leave. It's not that important.
That's what I was trying to tell you. I was
worried for your safety. Well, and if I was, and
if I was wrong about your safety, I'd rather be.

Speaker 6 (37:16):
Error on the wrong side.

Speaker 7 (37:18):
Well you did, because all right, I did.

Speaker 2 (37:20):
Well, then maybe I made a massive mistake, But the
fact is I was very, very nervous for your safety.
And also the reason I never acknowledged on the air
that you had to be let's say, let go, if
you want to use that word.

Speaker 6 (37:32):
Is because fired.

Speaker 2 (37:34):
Because I felt it was your private business, and I
tried to be respectful of that.

Speaker 7 (37:39):
Well, I appreciate you, know what, Howard, You know what.
The reason I never say anything either is because I
thought that maybe there was a chance, a slim chance,
that I would be able to work for your gear
we Olivia.

Speaker 2 (37:49):
I would love that, I really would, But you know,
but the thing is, things are getting a little out
of control, so I forget i'd give you a call
because I heard the what I would call an angry statement.

Speaker 16 (38:02):
Did we get to everything that bothered you about that tape?

Speaker 6 (38:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (38:06):
I think so, And I just said, gee, I owe
Garia call. If he wants to air this on the air,
then fine, I'll air it with him.

Speaker 6 (38:12):
I don't have any.

Speaker 2 (38:13):
Problem with that. I thought it was more respectful not
to put this on the air.

Speaker 7 (38:16):
Well. You know what what happened, Howard? Is this Okay?
I kept my mouth ship for a year and a
half on everything.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
Yeah, I thought you'd want it that way.

Speaker 7 (38:23):
No, But it wasn't that I wanted it that way.
I just I wanted to come back. You know why
I didn't say anything because I want to come back
and maybe work for you. And I would talk to
Tim periodically about maybe coming back and working for you, okay,
And what I've heard is that you didn't want me
to work for you anymore.

Speaker 6 (38:39):
It wasn't about no, I would love to have you.
I would love to have you work for me.

Speaker 2 (38:42):
But there was this issue where I thought you might
have been putting yourself in too much danger.

Speaker 7 (38:46):
Honestly, I never would do that, Howard. Listen to me, Okay,
turn to be honest. I believe me. I would never
put myself in any kind of danger. It was it
was most of that stuff, the fire with his schurity
and all that was for radio. Okay, it was a
put on. It was an act.

Speaker 6 (39:05):
Okay, I'm not sure everybody knew that.

Speaker 7 (39:08):
Well, it's the truth. I'm telling you what the truth is. Okay.

Speaker 2 (39:11):
I mean I don't think the other parties. I don't
think that Aids guy knew, you know. I mean the
guy was yelling at I don't think he knew it
was an act.

Speaker 7 (39:18):
Right of course he didn't, I said, But no one
in my mind, and you can even ask the cabin
in that I went with and people like that that.
Sometimes I was just like, hey, let's get thrown out
of here because we're not getting an interviews. They're not
letting me interview anybody. This is both. I got no
tape for you. I was trying to get taped for you.
I was trying to get material for you. I made

(39:39):
a mistake. Okay, I acknowledge my mistake, and you have
every right to fire me for it. Okay, I completely
made a huge mistake. But you know what, even Michael
Dick got a second cheft.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
You know what. I think what happened was.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
That there were appreciates, there were previous things where we
went to bad for you. Well then and then by
that incident, it got to be too much, and everyone said, listen,
maybe we got to calm down here. We don't want
anyone getting hurt. And that's all that, that's the intention.

Speaker 7 (40:09):
Well, that's you know what, that's listen, you know what.
I totally respect that. And that's your prerogative, and that's
you know, that's your vibe. And if you don't want
me to work for you, you don't want me to go
out there, you have every every right to to want
that and to not have you work for you anymore,
and to not represent your name. And I understand that
your name is very precious to you, as mine is

(40:29):
to me, not that I have a name, but uh.

Speaker 6 (40:33):
Well I know you.

Speaker 2 (40:34):
I also noticed you put those those putdowns about yourself.
You're a talented guy, you're a good guy, and I
told you I would recommend you to other people maybe
not to go out and confront the public, let's say,
because that maybe that is too dangerous a situation.

Speaker 6 (40:48):
Maybe it's too dangerous, you.

Speaker 2 (40:49):
Know, and you've got to have a different sort of
sense really, maybe even means back and down a little bit.

Speaker 7 (40:53):
I will not gone out since since since you let
me go, I've gone out probably you know, have a
ton a dozen times, just periodically, just because I have
a website and you know, I have a company and
all that I've done it. I've never had one problem.
I've never had anything going on. Everybody's in trucked, everybody's embraced,
and so it has nothing to do with that, all right,

(41:14):
It just it have to do with me. I was
trying to get material for you. People would be you
know that that one incident with the knee tree. You know, Okay,
it was a mistake. I shouldn't just let it go.
But after six or seven times a guy's taken trying
to take, you know, bread out of my mouth. I'm
sorry I didn't create that.

Speaker 2 (41:31):
I'm glad I called you because I sensed a lot
of anger and hurt there and I didn't want that
for you.

Speaker 7 (41:36):
Well, I mean I am. I am still hurt, angry.
I mean, I'm upset that that you know that you
know I'm not working for you, and that you know,
you know, I just felt that that that day, that
day that you announced that Fraud was doing the interviews
and all that. Then I had to spend and people
are like, why isn't Garber doing it. Why wasn't your
you know, and people were calling me and asking me,
and that's that was the whole thing. I wouldn't even

(41:56):
done it. I wouldn't have said nothing. I would have
just let it go.

Speaker 2 (41:59):
Well, the reason I didn't say anything was I was
trying to be protective of you. So that's that's why
I wanted a chance to explain myself.

Speaker 7 (42:06):
Well, I mean, you know, it's that's what you say,
and that's how you feel. I mean, but you've always
been so honest, and so you know I'm being honest.

Speaker 2 (42:14):
I did not want to air your laundry on this
air without your you know, if you had said to me, Hey, Howard,
go ahead and tell everyone, that would be one thing
you talk to me. I know, well usually you get
in touch with Gary. If you had said to Gary,
I want Howard to go on the air and tell
everyone why I was fine, I wouldn't do it.

Speaker 7 (42:29):
He would have just blown it all.

Speaker 6 (42:30):
No, he wouldn't. He would come and tell me maybe so.
But anyway, anyway, Gary, I do think of you often.

Speaker 2 (42:38):
I think that you are terrific at it, and I
do wish you a lot of success. I do, and
I hope that you're I hope that you get past
the anger.

Speaker 7 (42:47):
No, listen, it's fine. I mean I just had it.
I'm just tired of talking about it. I'm tired of
people asking me what happened and you know, well now
they know. Yeah, I mean that's basically what happens.

Speaker 6 (43:00):
All right. I think you are owed that. So that
there there, We've done it.

Speaker 7 (43:03):
Okay, I plug my internet TV network.

Speaker 2 (43:06):
Yes, yes you can. And in fact, you can feel
free to call in from time to time where we
play some of your old interviews and you can plug something.

Speaker 6 (43:13):
I'm not I'm not opposed to that, really, not at all.

Speaker 7 (43:18):
How's how I told you?

Speaker 6 (43:19):
I like you.

Speaker 7 (43:21):
I like you. Love you, man, I love you. I
mean what you did for me, I mean you know,
I mean you put me on the map.

Speaker 2 (43:27):
I mean, and that was that was the intention. And
believe me, we got a lot of great material out
of it. Go ahead and plug your thing.

Speaker 11 (43:34):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (43:34):
Just go to Escape dot tv. Uh, and and check
out some of my shows and my company. It's a
website here in Los Angeles. It's just pretty cool. Escape
dot t V, e x sd A e e dot
TV and the I don't know how to spell as
he said a couple of years ago.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
Now, if you ever call in again and you say
to Gary g Howard said he would plug something for me,
don't expect it every time. Times Gary might say no,
it doesn't mean I'm snubbing you.

Speaker 7 (44:00):
I mean er, you're probably even gonna call you, right,
I don't plan on even calling you. I haven't called you.
I haven't talked to him. I haven't done nothing. I mean,
you know, I mean you guys, just hear. I love
you guys.

Speaker 2 (44:10):
Well listen, we love you on this show, and we
think the work you did was stellar.

Speaker 6 (44:15):
So don't don't take it that way.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
If I'm being silent, was out of respect to your
career and respect to you as a person. That's it.
It wasn't my business to put on the air.

Speaker 7 (44:24):
I know. But you know, when when when I get
questioned all the time about why aren't you doing an interviews,
I haven't heard you.

Speaker 6 (44:29):
Well, I didn't understand that. I did not know that
that was bothering you.

Speaker 7 (44:33):
Well, it just it just got tiring, and then you know,
and then you know, eventually, you know, you try to
hire a praudo and the other guy to do the interviews.
And then then I had to, you know, step up
and go, hey, what happened? What happened Gary? What help
am I?

Speaker 19 (44:47):
Good?

Speaker 6 (44:47):
Well, I'd rather come from you than from me.

Speaker 7 (44:50):
Well, it's true, that's what happened. I mean, I made
a mistake. I acknowledge my mistake. You have every right
to fire me what you did, and that's it. That's
that's fine, it's.

Speaker 6 (45:01):
You're part of the show's history. You're terrific at.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
What you did, and we have many, many great moments
from it, and we speak your name, all right, Gary,
Well there we cleared it up. All right, cool, thank you,
thank you. I felt bad when I heard Gary was
so angry. I like Gary. I did feel bad for him, but.

Speaker 6 (45:19):
I knew he wanted me much of the audience. I
have no idea what that was all a, I don't know,
But who knew.

Speaker 2 (45:25):
What happened was I was sitting at home over the
weekend listening to Gary's show where he was spewing all
of this anger at us. And you know, Gary went
used to go out and do all these stuttering John
type interviews, and he really felt that I had wronged
him by not telling the audience that he was canned.

Speaker 16 (45:43):
Oh, I can't imagine anybody wanting that announ.

Speaker 6 (45:47):
That's what I thought.

Speaker 2 (45:48):
I was like, Wow, I mean, you know, sometimes you
just don't know what people want. Yeah, I would think
he'd rather not have that put out there.

Speaker 14 (45:56):
And that leaves him free to go do his.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
Thing and to put on him of any kind.

Speaker 14 (46:03):
I just we just part ways, yeah, or you.

Speaker 16 (46:06):
Know, because of serious we just couldn't work out a
deal or something anything.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
So you know, I was listening to this thing and
I went, gee, you know, maybe I should call him
on the air. It is kind of interesting if he
really wants to discuss it. I mean, you know, I
didn't get it. I thought the guy would want it
off the air. But okay, so that's why I wanted
to say to my Gary, I.

Speaker 16 (46:30):
Like you, but you know I love that you didn't
call him and tell him what did you ever call
him and tell him?

Speaker 6 (46:37):
I don't call anyone and tell him anything.

Speaker 16 (46:39):
But I mean, anytime he got an assignmon, did he
come from you.

Speaker 6 (46:42):
No, he didn't talk to you.

Speaker 2 (46:43):
No, But you know, people do get offended. And I
felt bad for Gary because Gary is a good soldier.

Speaker 6 (46:49):
He was always out there. He was great.

Speaker 2 (46:51):
Anytime we called him he was available. So you know,
I felt awful watching this guy being so tortured.

Speaker 6 (47:00):
Moss, you know.

Speaker 2 (47:01):
And but if you're you know, and I'm sitting there
going on being protective of the guys.

Speaker 16 (47:05):
Right, but if you're wanting that, why not call and say,
you know what, I would like to go on and
announce that.

Speaker 6 (47:11):
I was fine. I like Gary, I have nothing against it.

Speaker 14 (47:15):
It's been intriguing.

Speaker 6 (47:16):
Yeah, I don't know if he's still there.

Speaker 2 (47:19):
I think Gary's gone all right anyway, if that board,
I'm sorry.

Speaker 16 (47:24):
No, no, no, it was just that he kept arguing
points that really didn't make you know, like the whole
day in the Life, who's there's been day?

Speaker 6 (47:31):
Didn't John Lennon call us?

Speaker 2 (47:33):
He feels he there is this Beatles song a Day
in Life. But you know, quite frankly, you know, I
don't know.

Speaker 20 (47:41):
I wrote a song day in the Life, woke up,
got out of bed, grabbed the comb.

Speaker 16 (47:46):
Yeah, that that's been out there.

Speaker 14 (47:49):
For a while.

Speaker 2 (47:50):
There was at an article written by Marvin Kipman years
ago about how I sort of invented reality TV through
radio and then when we you know, began Howard TV
and even the E Show and stuff.

Speaker 16 (48:01):
But how many times have we just in here talking said,
you know what, I'd love to see what he.

Speaker 6 (48:05):
Does all day?

Speaker 2 (48:06):
Yeah, well that was the idea, you know, using beetle
juice of the whack pack was too. We've followed him
around for a period of time, not necessarily a day.
But I don't know what to tell you. I don't
know anything about that, But you know, I felt that
Gary's a guy's been with us for a long time,
and he's a good guy, and he did a great job,

(48:28):
so I wasn't looking to piss him off.

Speaker 14 (48:30):
I always had a good time with Gary Garver.

Speaker 6 (48:32):
You never even hung out with Gary?

Speaker 14 (48:34):
Yes?

Speaker 6 (48:36):
Oh yeah, didn't you bring up?

Speaker 14 (48:40):
I saw it well, me and Fred.

Speaker 20 (48:43):
Me and fredwred Starbucks one morning when we were in Vegas.
And believe me, I I can challenge anybody with a
good hangover, but me and Fred saw Gary Garver at
the Starbucks.

Speaker 14 (48:54):
At the hard Rock in Vegas. I've never heard or
seen a human being more hungover.

Speaker 6 (48:59):
In my life.

Speaker 17 (49:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 14 (49:02):
And I think it was.

Speaker 20 (49:03):
The day after that supposed fight with his brother at
that and he punched his brother.

Speaker 10 (49:07):
And I think they were even coming off the elevator together.

Speaker 14 (49:09):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, right, it was like seeing tractula. And
he said to me, goes, you look like.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
That's when you know you're a real art How he
can see Artie since his when Gary Garvin.

Speaker 6 (49:25):
Told you you look like you know? Well, after that,
that's when I knew art he was in trouble.

Speaker 14 (49:30):
After that one Vegas trip, I have beatle gears on
my Answergine going you a mess.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
But Gary's a good guy, Yeah he is. He's a sweetheart.
I don't know he was in so much pain. Robin,
if you had seen this thing. I was sitting there,
I was kind of fascinating. Well, I didn't know he
was that angry. So I felt bad.

Speaker 16 (49:51):
Yeah yeah, you know, but I think what I'm I'm
planting out here is you know, as you said, there
were a lot of warnings before.

Speaker 2 (50:00):
I thought there were a lot of warning a lot
of things like kind of reining in and like.

Speaker 16 (50:04):
Gary said, say all he wants that it would never happen,
but it looks going to happen.

Speaker 6 (50:09):
I was really worried about him. I was. I was
worried maybe it was just too volatile a situation for him.

Speaker 16 (50:14):
Plus the fact that he said he was just looking
for airtime and that this was all in act, but
he wasn't cluing in everybody else for the act.

Speaker 20 (50:23):
Yeah, well he wented the Darth Nihilis guy. That was
the first time it happened. He was antagonistic, and.

Speaker 2 (50:29):
It's one of the greatest pieces of take. That's why
I say Gary Garver is great. I think he is.
That's why I had him around for so many years.
But you know, I also have to worry about other things. Anyway, Listen,
that's that story. And so I wasn't even going to
put that on the air, but I don't know, it
just seemed too compelling.

Speaker 14 (50:50):
That was interesting, Oh it was.

Speaker 16 (50:51):
I was fascinated just by his reactions to things and
his arguments.

Speaker 2 (50:56):
Well, anyway, I'm glad we got to speak, and I
do welcome Gary to call him from timetime so we
can play his interviews and sit there and talk to.

Speaker 6 (51:05):
Him about him.

Speaker 16 (51:06):
Yeah, he's got a great body of work.

Speaker 6 (51:07):
He has a great body of work he does, and
a great body. No, actually, come on, give my break anyway,
the great Garry Garber And what is the website? Does
anyone know? I was so caught up in the argument,
what is it escape dot TV? I think he saw
escape Escape dot TV. All right, Gary, I wish you well.

Speaker 4 (51:26):
Okay, uncut, uncut forty two minutes and in a week
or two, I might take next week off. But after that,
Howard comes back on the air September second to discuss
his situation with Serious Radio and if he's going to

(51:47):
stay with them or if the rumors are true and
all the crap bowl that's flying around. So what I'll
do is that day, maybe September second or September third,
I'll replay this phone call and make my call commentary.
I just wanted to play out in full and give
you guys the whole lowdown, because a lot of people
still don't know the story between Howard and I and

(52:10):
I did have to answer a lot of questions during
that period, and they did try to get somebody else
to do the interviews, the celebrity interviews out here in Hollywood,
and no one could do it. No one could do
it because there's a certain mentality that you have to
have to do this to do those interviews and always
be on the defensive and be ready to be thrown

(52:31):
out and people grabbing you and touching you and stuff
like that, So I'll talk about it all Howard comes
back from vacation and we'll discuss what his plans are
and if the rumors are true and all that. So anyways,
I hope you guys have a great rest of your day.
I'll be back Manyana God William with some more chaos
for you. And guess what I just never did back

(52:53):
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Speaker 6 (52:56):
Right.

Speaker 3 (53:00):
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in a week or two.

Speaker 21 (53:06):
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but loll back down.

Speaker 3 (53:14):
No, stand mack ground.

Speaker 21 (53:18):
Won't be turned around, and I'll keep this world from
dragging me down. Gonna stand my ground, Hannah.

Speaker 3 (53:33):
Back damn.

Speaker 21 (53:38):
Babe. There ain't no easy way you stand man ground
and I won't back damn No.

Speaker 3 (53:58):
What's right? I got just one laugh.

Speaker 8 (54:05):
In a world that keep side pushing me around.

Speaker 21 (54:09):
Up stand math ground and won back. Then there'll be no.

Speaker 3 (54:23):
Easy well, stand math ground.

Speaker 21 (54:34):
And I won't back then.

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