February 28, 2025 • 11 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:04):
Hey everyone, it's Jen and this is Lindsay, and we
have the biggest breaking news ever in corpus to like
d history, totally huge news.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely, this is not recording night. There are drums in
my house, there are dogs barking because this was not
recording night.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
So I am.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Sorry, but this is worth it. Grab a drink because
we're about to cheers. Pardon my French, the shit out
of today. Okay, So Jen and I just.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
An hour ago, got a message from Jeremy Gray. If
you remember Jeremy Gray, he was on the podcast very
early on and he works at Alabama dot Com and
of course you know, we've constantly been telling him, oh,
y'all need to cover Rocky, y'all need to cover Rocky,
and they have several times.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And Jeremy sent Jen and I a message. Jen, what
did the message say?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Alabama Governor Kivy Commune's Deathcendants of Rocky Robin Myers. He
has this amazingly awesome article.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Go read it.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It details it. It details lack of evidence like of fingerprints,
elect a DNA, lack of weapon, and Kivy says, you
know what, in my heart of hearts, I cannot issue
the death warrant for a case with such little evidence.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So basically what this means is Rocky his sentence has
now been commuted to life in prison without parole. Now,
if you remember when we talked about Rocky's case, we
all knew this was gonna happen because I've had all
sorts of friends and stuff message in me being like,
why isn't he out?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Why isn't he out?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's not an option unless there's new evidence or somebody
comes forward. We knew that his lawyers knew that. He
knew that the way the Alabama laws are, remember the
whole Judith Neely law, the best he could ask for
is or that sentence to be overturned to what it
was supposed to be before the jury overwrote it. He
can't be pardoned the way that our pardon system is
(02:08):
set up, if you're on death row, you can't be pardoned.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And it's a whole thing. So without a change of
the law, this is what we knew.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
This is what we were fighting for, This is what
we were expecting. He will not be killed, he will
not be executed. This is exactly what we've been fighting for.
So if you are one of the many, many people
out there who has written a letter shared the episodes
talked about Rocky shared the articles thank you, huge, frickin'
(02:40):
thank you, because collectively it happened.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yes to the point where Ivy said, I have enough
questions about mister Meyer's guilt that I can't I cannot
move forward.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
With executing him.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
For an example, no murder weapon was found, no DNA evidence,
no fingerprints or other physical efforts.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Calling right now, pause, pause, pushed up.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Pop.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, Well that was actually perfect.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That was perfect timing because obviously we just stopped mid
podcast because Rocky called us and I put it on
speakerphone so Jim could hear. And I picked up the
phone and I just said hello, and he just starts.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Loud and this is God's work. This is amazing. You know.
He is set on cloud nine right now. And to
hear him, he got a different card which means he
can now go outside and walk. This is a huge
deal for him. And then he's talking about he may
stay in the prison he is, but he may go
to a different one, hopefully one in North Alabama, so
(03:46):
he can be closer to his family and closer to us,
because we can go visit and.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Ord yeah, yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But like I have heard Rocky Myers positive for what
four years now.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Always so positive. But this what we just heard was.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Absolute freaking sheer joy like he was laughing, and he
said that he found out. They just told him. They
were like, go call your lawyer. He's on the phone
with Casey, who was on the podcast telling him, giving
him the news when everyone in the prison found.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Out because they all saw the article.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And he's on the phone with his lawyer getting the
news while they're getting the news and they're all yelling
in the background and he can't hear his lawyer and
it's like this whole big thing.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So this is so so incredible.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I just thank you so much to anybody who you
know wrote wrote in. He was talking about how happy
it makes him when he gets cards and all this stuff,
and apparently he just said that k Ivy had a
room full of letters, and that's that's you guys, that's
coming from you guys. That's amazing the impact that people
(05:01):
can have. And it's just I don't know, this is
just this is a good day. So there's still stuff
that he doesn't know yet because this is all barely
an hour and a half old. But he could go
to another prison. He said, he's okay with staying there
because it's actually a smaller one and he's been there
and he knows it. But he could end up going
somewhere else put him closer to family, and like Jenn said,
(05:24):
he got a new little access card where he can
do things he wasn't doing before. And this is what
it's all about, man, this is what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Nope, it's a good day. But we're not done.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
We're not done. We've got more steps, we got appellate courts,
we've got a new vigor into this case. We are
not letting it go. Even Governor Ivey said so much
about what wasn't there, about how the evidence just was
not there. I'd be very surprised if Casey does not
use that in her appellate documentation. But he just to
(06:01):
hear his joy and to hear the pounds of stress
just melts away. It was amazing, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Today's a great day. Today's a great day.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, and you know what's crazy, And I told you this,
but he actually called yesterday as well, and I was
talking to him and he was talking about, you know,
how we said and when we did his case, how
he used to live further up north and he moved
his family to Alabama because he was into not great
stuff up there and they didn't like their surroundings and didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Want to raise their kids there.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And he's telling me yesterday, He's like, you know, one
of the best things I ever did was move my
family down to Alabama. My kids are doing so great.
I'm so proud of them. They've got good jobs, they've
got families, you know, all this stuff. And he's like,
and that wouldn't have happened up there. I feel like
they had to be down here to you know, take
advantage of being away from that opportunity. And I said, well, Rocky,
(06:53):
there's a lot of irony in that statement because it's
not exactly like Alabama has been very good to you.
And he said, and it just like stopped me in
my tracks. He said, you know what, though, if it
made my kids better, it's worth it. And he said,
you hear people say all the time, I would take
a bullet for my kid.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
He said, I pretty much have.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And I would again if it meant that they were
better off I would still do it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
All over again.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And I was thinking and I shared it in discord,
and I was like, this is the man we're about
to kill, because let's give them backstory, Jen, because we've.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Been hinting at stuff for a.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
While now, and here's here's what's actually been going on. Okay,
and this is why we're so floored by this. A
few days before Christmas, like December twenty second or twenty third,
they issued his death warrant. They signed the death warrant
and they said, Rocky Meyers, we are going to execute
you and start preparing for that process. So we're like,
(07:51):
oh my god, here we go. But they were like,
we can't say anything yet. His lawyer had the right
to fire like a petition and say why not, which
then gets presented to the court. The court has to
respond to it, and then the court presents it to
like the Board of execution whatever, the board that sets
(08:12):
the dates and all that. Well, Casey Rocky's team files
their appeal.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's huge.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
The are not the appeal motion, but they're you know,
their argument. And then the court aka the State of Alabama,
came back and said we need more time, and we're
all like Oh, that's great because they're actually looking at it.
They don't normally do that. They're normally like, yeah, yeah,
that's all good, and well, but we're still going to
(08:41):
execute you. Well, they ask for more time and we're
all like, well, maybe that's good. They're reviewing it. Well,
then maybe two weeks ago they came back and they said, nah,
we're still going to execute him. And at that point,
me personally, I don't know about eu Jen, but I
lost hope because I was like, k Ivy's not going
to listen to this because her courts just said we
(09:02):
have looked at it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And we do a lot of conversation about this. Where
she does not historically go against the courts. She is
very much of an express lane. She wants to clear
death row. She even says in her article is quoted
she has executed twenty two people in her time of office.
She is not shy about this. But the fact that
(09:25):
you know, she took those letters that you guys wrote,
she took the calls that you guys did, and the
whole package, Casey is such a superhero. Casey put together
this humongous, amazingly articulate package and thoughts, prayers, to the
big guy upstairs. But something happened in her heart that
(09:48):
she heard it, she saw it, she understood it, and
she executed on it to say we cannot take his
life and.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That I had lost hope. I had hope, but Rocky
never did. But I was.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Always like, oh, Okay, obviously we're gonna fight until the
bitter end. But I am not hopeful about it. I
am not, and I'm just I was not expecting it,
and to the point where Jen and I were so
jaded that when Jeremy Gray, the amazing author at Alabama
dot Com sent us the article, Jen saw it just
(10:23):
assumed in her mind that it was bad news and
literally said sorry here, but she goes, this is bullshit,
and I said I'm driving and I said, Jen, reread it,
reread it, go back and reread it. Because we were
just so conditioned to be like, that's gonna be the
outcome that Jen was like, what the Jen put the
pitchfork down, We're good, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Every single step in his trial, every single step in
the investigation, every single step in the appeals, it has
been against him for no reason. I mean, just evidence
is there. And I'm so passionate about this I was.
I I misread it because I just assumed it was
bad news because I was so ready to get my
(11:06):
poster and march on the capitol. I mean, Lindsay and
I talked about it, like if this goes through, we're protesting,
We're driving down there and we're.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Doing this yep.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And it took me several times reading it to Saint
Kenna be like am I reading this right?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Am I actually reading this right? So there we go.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
There is the update Rocky Myers. He may still be
in prison, but he is going to live.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That is the update.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I am straight up late for dinner right now, like
everything in my life has been put on hold, So
I am going to go.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But we wanted to update you guys and share the
good news.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So cheers to you guys, and cheers to Robin Rocky Myers.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Bye bye
Hey everyone, it's Jen and this is Lindsay, and we
have the biggest breaking news ever in corpus to like
d history, totally huge news.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Absolutely, this is not recording night. There are drums in
my house, there are dogs barking because this was not
recording night.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
So I am.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Sorry, but this is worth it. Grab a drink because
we're about to cheers. Pardon my French, the shit out
of today. Okay, So Jen and I just.
Speaker 3 (00:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
An hour ago, got a message from Jeremy Gray. If
you remember Jeremy Gray, he was on the podcast very
early on and he works at Alabama dot Com and
of course you know, we've constantly been telling him, oh,
y'all need to cover Rocky, y'all need to cover Rocky,
and they have several times.
Speaker 3 (00:53):
And Jeremy sent Jen and I a message. Jen, what
did the message say?
Speaker 1 (01:00):
Alabama Governor Kivy Commune's Deathcendants of Rocky Robin Myers. He
has this amazingly awesome article.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Go read it.
Speaker 1 (01:10):
It details it. It details lack of evidence like of fingerprints,
elect a DNA, lack of weapon, and Kivy says, you
know what, in my heart of hearts, I cannot issue
the death warrant for a case with such little evidence.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
So basically what this means is Rocky his sentence has
now been commuted to life in prison without parole. Now,
if you remember when we talked about Rocky's case, we
all knew this was gonna happen because I've had all
sorts of friends and stuff message in me being like,
why isn't he out?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Why isn't he out?
Speaker 2 (01:46):
That's not an option unless there's new evidence or somebody
comes forward. We knew that his lawyers knew that. He
knew that the way the Alabama laws are, remember the
whole Judith Neely law, the best he could ask for
is or that sentence to be overturned to what it
was supposed to be before the jury overwrote it. He
can't be pardoned the way that our pardon system is
(02:08):
set up, if you're on death row, you can't be pardoned.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
And it's a whole thing. So without a change of
the law, this is what we knew.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
This is what we were fighting for, This is what
we were expecting. He will not be killed, he will
not be executed. This is exactly what we've been fighting for.
So if you are one of the many, many people
out there who has written a letter shared the episodes
talked about Rocky shared the articles thank you, huge, frickin'
(02:40):
thank you, because collectively it happened.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Yes to the point where Ivy said, I have enough
questions about mister Meyer's guilt that I can't I cannot
move forward.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
With executing him.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
For an example, no murder weapon was found, no DNA evidence,
no fingerprints or other physical efforts.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Calling right now, pause, pause, pushed up.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Pop.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
Okay, Well that was actually perfect.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
That was perfect timing because obviously we just stopped mid
podcast because Rocky called us and I put it on
speakerphone so Jim could hear. And I picked up the
phone and I just said hello, and he just starts.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Loud and this is God's work. This is amazing. You know.
He is set on cloud nine right now. And to
hear him, he got a different card which means he
can now go outside and walk. This is a huge
deal for him. And then he's talking about he may
stay in the prison he is, but he may go
to a different one, hopefully one in North Alabama, so
(03:46):
he can be closer to his family and closer to us,
because we can go visit and.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Ord yeah, yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (03:55):
But like I have heard Rocky Myers positive for what
four years now.
Speaker 3 (04:02):
Always so positive. But this what we just heard was.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Absolute freaking sheer joy like he was laughing, and he
said that he found out. They just told him. They
were like, go call your lawyer. He's on the phone
with Casey, who was on the podcast telling him, giving
him the news when everyone in the prison found.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
Out because they all saw the article.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
And he's on the phone with his lawyer getting the
news while they're getting the news and they're all yelling
in the background and he can't hear his lawyer and
it's like this whole big thing.
Speaker 3 (04:33):
So this is so so incredible.
Speaker 2 (04:38):
I just thank you so much to anybody who you
know wrote wrote in. He was talking about how happy
it makes him when he gets cards and all this stuff,
and apparently he just said that k Ivy had a
room full of letters, and that's that's you guys, that's
coming from you guys. That's amazing the impact that people
(05:01):
can have. And it's just I don't know, this is
just this is a good day. So there's still stuff
that he doesn't know yet because this is all barely
an hour and a half old. But he could go
to another prison. He said, he's okay with staying there
because it's actually a smaller one and he's been there
and he knows it. But he could end up going
somewhere else put him closer to family, and like Jenn said,
(05:24):
he got a new little access card where he can
do things he wasn't doing before. And this is what
it's all about, man, this is what it's all about.
Speaker 3 (05:32):
Nope, it's a good day. But we're not done.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
We're not done. We've got more steps, we got appellate courts,
we've got a new vigor into this case. We are
not letting it go. Even Governor Ivey said so much
about what wasn't there, about how the evidence just was
not there. I'd be very surprised if Casey does not
use that in her appellate documentation. But he just to
(06:01):
hear his joy and to hear the pounds of stress
just melts away. It was amazing, it's amazing.
Speaker 3 (06:08):
Today's a great day. Today's a great day.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
Well, and you know what's crazy, And I told you this,
but he actually called yesterday as well, and I was
talking to him and he was talking about, you know,
how we said and when we did his case, how
he used to live further up north and he moved
his family to Alabama because he was into not great
stuff up there and they didn't like their surroundings and didn't.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
Want to raise their kids there.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
And he's telling me yesterday, He's like, you know, one
of the best things I ever did was move my
family down to Alabama. My kids are doing so great.
I'm so proud of them. They've got good jobs, they've
got families, you know, all this stuff. And he's like,
and that wouldn't have happened up there. I feel like
they had to be down here to you know, take
advantage of being away from that opportunity. And I said, well, Rocky,
(06:53):
there's a lot of irony in that statement because it's
not exactly like Alabama has been very good to you.
And he said, and it just like stopped me in
my tracks. He said, you know what, though, if it
made my kids better, it's worth it. And he said,
you hear people say all the time, I would take
a bullet for my kid.
Speaker 3 (07:11):
He said, I pretty much have.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
And I would again if it meant that they were
better off I would still do it.
Speaker 3 (07:17):
All over again.
Speaker 2 (07:19):
And I was thinking and I shared it in discord,
and I was like, this is the man we're about
to kill, because let's give them backstory, Jen, because we've.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
Been hinting at stuff for a.
Speaker 2 (07:28):
While now, and here's here's what's actually been going on. Okay,
and this is why we're so floored by this. A
few days before Christmas, like December twenty second or twenty third,
they issued his death warrant. They signed the death warrant
and they said, Rocky Meyers, we are going to execute
you and start preparing for that process. So we're like,
(07:51):
oh my god, here we go. But they were like,
we can't say anything yet. His lawyer had the right
to fire like a petition and say why not, which
then gets presented to the court. The court has to
respond to it, and then the court presents it to
like the Board of execution whatever, the board that sets
(08:12):
the dates and all that. Well, Casey Rocky's team files
their appeal.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
It's huge.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
The are not the appeal motion, but they're you know,
their argument. And then the court aka the State of Alabama,
came back and said we need more time, and we're
all like Oh, that's great because they're actually looking at it.
They don't normally do that. They're normally like, yeah, yeah,
that's all good, and well, but we're still going to
(08:41):
execute you. Well, they ask for more time and we're
all like, well, maybe that's good. They're reviewing it. Well,
then maybe two weeks ago they came back and they said, nah,
we're still going to execute him. And at that point,
me personally, I don't know about eu Jen, but I
lost hope because I was like, k Ivy's not going
to listen to this because her courts just said we
(09:02):
have looked at it.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
And we do a lot of conversation about this. Where
she does not historically go against the courts. She is
very much of an express lane. She wants to clear
death row. She even says in her article is quoted
she has executed twenty two people in her time of office.
She is not shy about this. But the fact that
(09:25):
you know, she took those letters that you guys wrote,
she took the calls that you guys did, and the
whole package, Casey is such a superhero. Casey put together
this humongous, amazingly articulate package and thoughts, prayers, to the
big guy upstairs. But something happened in her heart that
(09:48):
she heard it, she saw it, she understood it, and
she executed on it to say we cannot take his
life and.
Speaker 3 (09:56):
That I had lost hope. I had hope, but Rocky
never did. But I was.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
Always like, oh, Okay, obviously we're gonna fight until the
bitter end. But I am not hopeful about it. I
am not, and I'm just I was not expecting it,
and to the point where Jen and I were so
jaded that when Jeremy Gray, the amazing author at Alabama
dot Com sent us the article, Jen saw it just
(10:23):
assumed in her mind that it was bad news and
literally said sorry here, but she goes, this is bullshit,
and I said I'm driving and I said, Jen, reread it,
reread it, go back and reread it. Because we were
just so conditioned to be like, that's gonna be the
outcome that Jen was like, what the Jen put the
pitchfork down, We're good, Like, well.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Every single step in his trial, every single step in
the investigation, every single step in the appeals, it has
been against him for no reason. I mean, just evidence
is there. And I'm so passionate about this I was.
I I misread it because I just assumed it was
bad news because I was so ready to get my
(11:06):
poster and march on the capitol. I mean, Lindsay and
I talked about it, like if this goes through, we're protesting,
We're driving down there and we're.
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Doing this yep.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
And it took me several times reading it to Saint
Kenna be like am I reading this right?
Speaker 1 (11:20):
Like?
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Am I actually reading this right? So there we go.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
There is the update Rocky Myers. He may still be
in prison, but he is going to live.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
That is the update.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
I am straight up late for dinner right now, like
everything in my life has been put on hold, So
I am going to go.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
But we wanted to update you guys and share the
good news.
Speaker 2 (11:38):
So cheers to you guys, and cheers to Robin Rocky Myers.
Speaker 3 (11:43):
Bye bye
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