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This week on Cosmic Cantina, Willit finally happened? People? Disclosure?
Maybe discussion absolutely After congressional hearing today, we had to talk about this massive
event and all the implications stemming fromit. Is humanity in for a wild
ride or will it just fizzle out? Either way, we think you should
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raise your liquor cabinet and join usfor an all new Cosmic Cantina. I'm
your host, Melissa Tittle, andevery week I go to my favorite bar,
Cosmic Cantina, and kick back withmy co host Josh Columbuski and Matt
O'Connor. We talk about aliens,bigfoot, ghosts, ancient cultures, and
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anything from the unseen world that needsa little illumination. Welcome to Cosmic Cantina.
I'm your host, Melissa Tittle,and tonight I'm speaking into my laptop
microphone. So if i sound likeI'm far away or I'm talking into a
tin can, it's because I'm anundisclosed location in a hotel somewhere and I'm
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drinking a hard kampucha because we're discussingthe interesting congressional hearing that just happened,
and I can't wait to dive intoit it happened. Yes, it's a
big one. I would say,explosive, historic, and I'm happy just
to be alive during this glorious time. I can't wait. This is disclosure,
people. We'll get into it.I'm drinking red wine. I was
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ready to rant right there, butI'm gonna contain myself for the next several
minutes. Cheers, disclosure. Whatabout you, O'Connor. Look, I
made myself a little celebratory Manhattan,some bourbon, a little a little cherry
in there, and some other stuffthat I splashed in there. It's good
and uh yeah, it's an excitingday. I feel like, I mean,
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we'll get to it, but Idon't feel like anyone else. It's
just excited as the UFO community is. Because I just looked at several major
news front page ages and it is, well, it's halfway down the CNN
page, but I can't see anythingon an MSNBC. I can't see anything
on Fox. Uh feel so yeah, we'll get into that. I feel
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like we're gonna get into it.Okay, all right, let's get into
it. I mean, let's doit. When I say interesting, you
know me, I like to bedown the middle I'm sorry. I like
to be down the middle. There'sdefinitely some political stuff going on, so
we have to address that. ButI have watching all of these for the
last couple of years that have beenhappening. This one was the most serious.
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The questions that they asked were smart. They really wanted to find something.
Nobody. There's one person who waslike, I don't know if I
believe an extra trustrials. We're noteven using that word. He said,
non human. Okay, asked,well you missed that, like fifteen minutes
into the conversation. Yeah, wasthat fucking guy. I didn't write his
name down. But but the thingis, isn't that they were really looking
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for. They actually felt like wewere getting somewhere that okay, okay,
something's happening. Where do we look? That was the major question that I
got out of it. So justto refresh everybody's mind, because this is
a couple of days after it hashappened that you're listening to this congressional hearing.
Was had Grush David Groush that's cameout in News Nation and was the
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whistleblower who said, look, I'vehad information, I've seen things, I've
seen crash retrieval sites, possibly bodies, biological material. He's on this panel
with Ryan Graves, former Navy pilotwho has spoken out about encountering UAPs on
training missions, and David Fraber,who spotted at larger option large object captured
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in what we now know as theTikTok video. So these guys are part
of some of the biggest stories thatare out there, and so Congress is
asking them what is going on becauseyou know, Grush was saying Congress is
not allowed to know what is goingon in the American people need to know,
and you need to go and makethis happen, right, guys,
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Yes, And just to fall motheryou're saying quickly, is that I think
the questions being asked are super important. Most people are going to complain that
Grush couldn't answer the questions in apublic setting, but the Congress already knew
that. But they're asking on purposeis to get the public to go along
for the ride here that there isa hidden program. There's probably people being
murdered, this crashes, the bodies, is all this stuff. The reason
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why they knew that he wasn't goingto answer, but they put it out
there anyways for us to be like, oh, so this is the big
deal for the public, even thoughwe kind of already knew the answers to
it, so please go on.Okay, so I know we're up.
We're up in the excitement, butbefore we get too far up, the
climax of how freaking awesome this congressionalhearing was. Do you think just your
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opinion that this is being used inany way for politicians is to take our
mind off of something else that mightbe happening. What do you guys think?
No, I think it's the opposite. Um, if you go on
all the major news channels, they'reshovin Hunting Hunter Biden down our throats and
just political bipartisan stuff. And itwas like the UFO stuff should be world
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news. That was crazy, Well, how can Hunter, Biden snort and
Coke offer Stripper's aspe I don't evenknow what it is. I didn't read
it be any more important, anyeven close to about the disclosure, Like,
how is it even? It's likeso ridiculous that I was like,
this is clearly disinformation. They're clearlyhiding it. The CIA one, they
these dark programs of the money clearlywon and suppressed the media on it.
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It's still working, Like how isit? Dot World news? I mean,
my auntie, my auntie Shane didpass away today, so I get
why that's on the front page forsure, and rest in peace, Sconna
know you're talking about aunt really died. I was like, oh, it
was just one of the tough storiestoday. It was like I was fine,
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but like that shouldn't be a headlineover what just happened in Congress.
That literally biggest story in human historyunraveling. We've crossed the fifty yard line.
This is it. Let's fucking go. That's fucking guests. So many,
like so many things came out toyou. That's really funny. I
was. I was getting my nailson a nail salon and there's a couple
of guys getting there like feet doneor something, and and one guy was
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like telling the woman. He waslike, yeah, it's really crazy.
It was happening with Hunter Biden.And you know there's like you a Poe
stuff happening too. And I waslike, I'm not even that's what we're
doing. Why does anyone cares?Is that? Anything? One woman goes
I heard about the Hunter Biden stuff, and I'm like, yeah, I'm
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like, I'm not I'm not evenengaging. I'm not engaging you and Jesus
Okay, it's wild man, Yeah, it's wild. Okay. So I
have to ask that question because Ithink it's an important question because what happens
on these podcast as usually is thateveryone gets really excited or they're all in
the hate camp of like it's stupidand it's not disclosure. I like to
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actually, let's address all the angles, because I think that's important thing to
say, because that's what people say. Oh, they're they're just doing this
because they're trying to get us rampedup about something and then take us away,
or they're making some kind of republicanso you know, like a republican
thing where they're trying to get youknow, people to vote for you know,
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to keep these people like, youknow, these types of people quote
unquote you know, into UFOs andinto this camp. And I don't believe
that at all, because it waspretty fair, right Congressional hearing Democrats you
guys today, I was like pleasantlysurprised that both sides of the aisle seem
to be on the same page askingsimilar questions. No one was really bickering
or about stupid pottersan nonsense. Itwas all everyone wanted to find the same
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thing, and it was just like, all right, now that's government.
There we go to other people.That's right from the oh except for miss
Fox. What the hell is goingon there? She was the older woman
that was like, Grush, Ihave a question for you, and then
she didn't let him answer. Shejust kept going around about like you know,
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politics and blah blah blah. Iwas like, what is happening?
Let the man answer? Remember,yeah, get off my lawn, kids
down alien paraphernalia right now. Ithink Representative Luna I forget her name.
She's great because she's behind the disclosure. She did mention something somewhat political about
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the White House, and the onlyreason why I bring it up is not
because of that comment. But oneof the interesting things is David Grush,
in his opening statement that you couldread, I don't know if he fully
read the thing in front of him. He did mention a line about the
executive branch being responsible for part ofthe cover up, and I don't think
he meant today's branch. I thinkhe meant historically, but then I think
felt her name kind of pointed aBiden or something like that. So I'm
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not sure if the Biden administration knowsif he's in the loop or not.
But if someone's going to be inthe loop who's been in government forever,
it could be Biden. But Ijust don't see him being I feel like
he's like the guy from Independence Day. You know, he doesn't know,
and then he's suddenly gonna be broughtto the base and they're gonna be like,
oh, yeah, it's gonna givean amazing speech. Yeah. And
by the way, and the beddedState fucking nailed it in the nineties,
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right, besides the favor based alienevasion bullshit, which I don't agree with.
Besides that they nailed it. Themovies are right, man, Everything
we thought is right, guys,like every single thing. Like I'm having
a hard time, there's other thingsI want to get into tonight. They
are super dark and weird. Thathave to be true too, because every
single thing we've researched, not everything, obviously, but all the major points
are true. You know what,I didn't hear anything about Angel here in
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this congrat tire. They didn't.That's why no angel. I want that
older woman, miss Fox to belike, Oh, I was reading this
report and there was an angel spreadall over the field. I got all
exciting. We brought it. Oh, Okay, Okay, that's why you
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guys love us because we say inappropriatethings only when Josh is around. Matt
and I just don't stare at eachother. Look at the wall, look
at the wall, wall, don'tleave us again. Okay. A couple
of things that um Grush did sayin the news Nation interview that he kept
reiterating in this almost two hour congressionalhearing. Okay, so here's a couple
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of things that I um that Ithat I wrote down that I that I
know that he said in his newsNation interview. One of the things is
he did go back to the retrievedcraft from non human sources since nineteen thirty.
He did talk about that in hisNews Nation interview. Um, and
he brought that up again because Iwas a couple of questions about, you
know, when was the first one? How long have you been having this?
And he's at nineteen thirty and Iwant to dive into that, like
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I hope at some point we cando an interview with grush and really get
into what happened in nineteen thirty,because we can find a lot more about
some of our world wars this way. Um. Sure he has seen down
craft. He's repeated that now fromNews Nation interview and in the congressional hearing.
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He has seen biological material and bodies. He did say that in the
News Nation interview. He did saythat in the in this congressional in Yeah,
I want to pull you up.I though I don't think you're hunt
person accred. I think he suggestedhe saw crafts. But then when they
asked him directly, have you seenbiological he said no. In the hearing
today, are you So he's awareof it, but he's because I know
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what you're saying. Because they askedhim have you seen craft He's like,
I can't talk about have you seenbodies? He was like no, So
that means he said the raft hepersonally interviewed people who had Oh that's what
it was. Thank you guys.Thank yeah, because yeah, because I
thought he said he okay, maybehe said he knew of people seeing the
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bodies. Okay, yes, right, yeah, I think it's more accurate.
Thank you. Um he said,um, which I love, which
would just addressed you know in thebeginning here. I love how he corrected
us. I can't remember who askedthe question um extraterrestrial beings, and he
said, I like to refer tothem as non human to keep it open.
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Which my big question is why isthat such a big point? Is
it? You know a lot ofthe stories that we cover, whether it's
dog Man or it's you know,gray Aliens or Nordics or hot whatever clowns,
they're all bipedal. Right, Yeah, so that is that what he
means by like, I'd rather justsay non human. Well, he went
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into this full on like quantum physicsspiel at one point about like how interdimensional
works. Did do you guys rememberthat? Yeah, yea, yeah,
this whole thing anyway, that's uhyeah, that was by the bye,
But he kind of like went offon this tangent about like because he's a
physics guy, I guess, butyeah, he started talking about like intermensional
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stuff and how that works and howthat might work, and it was all
theoretical, but it was like,huh, it seems like maybe he's kind
of leaning that way. If he'slike super into that, I don't know,
Yeah, the non human thing isinteresting to me. Why we're using
that terminology is it's just a simplerebrand to get away from ET because I
don't know, like if you evenread or listen to some of the breadcrumbs
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that luel Zando's left over the years, it's almost like they're suggesting it's humans
from a different dimension that like we'rea different version of them, because they're
all humanoid. They're all upright,they're all two eyes, maybe a nose,
Some have genitals, some don't,as we know. So if anything,
it's like, if anything, theterm I could take the opposite point
of view, like it could beall human and what does human mean?
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Is it just human beings on thisplanet? Or is humanoid the word we
should be using? You know?And it gets great for me there.
I don't know. But the factthat David Grush says that means that he's
saying it for a particular reason,so to counter my own argument to get
back on your side. That meanswe're probably dealing with thing that is entirely
not human. And maybe they havesome sort of involvement in our genetics,
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in our evolution, but whatever itis is definitely not human or related.
It's not a time traveler, it'snot a human from other dimension. So
I'm on the fence and that Idon't really care about the rebranding, but
I just wonder I'm still not thedoor still not closed that it is humans
from the future or different race ofhumans of somebody, you know what I
mean. Yeah, yeah, Butbut also like if it's non human,
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Yeah, there's you could go like, is it is it just is it
made out of It's not biological,you know what I mean, It's just
it's just very particular. That's justthe way that he said it. I
just thought, yeah, yeah,and he kind of he also kind of
specifically said that he was using thatterminology as well because of the fact that
they really don't know where they comefrom, like whether you are either off
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world or you know, yeah,if you saw a mantis being, there
would be no part in your brainthat'd be like, I think it might
be human. Sure, let mego right, it's a deficient of human
and and all of our consciousness andof all the words that we know,
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we know, otherworldly beings, extraterrestrials, you know. I think of all
the things that we have in ourbrain. But to use that word specifically,
I think I think something else willbe revealed because of that word that
we don't necessarily understand. It's justit's just odd. It's like, yeah,
of course it's not human, butit's just like odd. No,
you're right, that's that's brilliant,just because we don't know it. It's
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just like UAP when it first hit, we were like, get the fuck
out of here, UFOs to turnwhat are you doing? And now I'm
a UAP fan, I've come fullcircle. I'm like, yeah, it's
unidentified anomaliss phenomenon. That is moreaccurate. So this is more accurate.
And if he's saying it, thegovernment saying so, it has to be
non human origin. Just because it'sbipedal and humanoid doesn't mean it's a human.
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I'm just playing the argument here,you know. So I think you're
right, like we should be payingattention to that. So that is a
clue to what we're dealing with here. And maybe you're right, maybe it's
just androids or these things intermediaries thatare designed to interact with us, but
the real source is just something different, scary, all right. So he
also mentioned you can't see it,but Josh is dancing. He's so pumped.
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You just got an angel hair allover the place. So he also
mentioned I don't know if you Ican't remember who asked the question, but
they said, has anybody ever gottenhurt? And he said, yes,
there's people that have been hurt andpeople that have been hurt trying to reverse
engineer the craft as well. Doyou remember this part? And I cannot
remember who asked it. I remembereither, but his face when they asked
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the question, he's like, ohyeah, like his he was like,
oh yeah, like like let's happenlike every day, like someone dies every
day from like dealing with He waslike, I do think clarified whether it
was the craft, whether it's intentionalor it was like some clarity there.
It wasn't that they were attacking us. Yeah, there was someone who tried
to Yeah. Yeah, someone triedto knuckle down on whether it was a
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you know, aggressive attack that causedthe harm or whether it was just some
sort of byproduct of the technology orwhatever itself that caused it. And I
don't it was it a vague kindof answer. I didn't. I didn't
really set back and look at it. Yeah, I don't think. I
don't think he said those because theyattacked us. It was definitely more like
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no, people, and that wasit because I did doesn't scare me.
Someone did ask towards the end whenthey were like they were trying to reiterate
how important this is, and someoneat the end, one of the congress
people at the end did sort ofknuckle down on whether they think, oh,
if, if, if these thingswere to attack, would we stand
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a chance? And they were basicallylike, fuck no, these things are
like laughing is way beyond what wecan do. Yeah, And so that
was like that seems pretty important,right, Everyone's like, yeah, all
right, yeah, yeah, Andthey said that. They said that.
They said that a couple of times, kind of like that, like,
of all the things that we knowhow the universe works, this is not
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one of them. There hasn't beenanyment that's been able to figure that out.
You know. When I interviewed MichioKaku several years ago, you know,
he said the same thing. He'slike, do I think aliens are
real? I don't know. That'snot really my space, right, Like
I'm a quanta physicist, but Ican't tell you by looking at the videos
of the TikTok video on the gibble. I don't know anything that moves like
that based on the physics that Iknows as my profession. So I think
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that was definitely a common theme,like look, we need to figure this
out, like enough with all thesecrecy, like totally do your job and
get out there, and and youknow, you know what else I liked,
I liked miss Cortez. Miss Cortezwas straight to the point. She
was like, Okay, who whatshould I fall back up on, Give
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me the names, give me theplaces. What do I need to fall
back up on? Hell, yeah, He's like, and I was like,
yeah, let's just get to thepoint. Let's just get to the
point people. Yeah, that wascool when when there was there were questions
like that, and he was like, I can't tell you now obviously,
but let's meet later in the skiffor whatever they're talking about getting that set
up. And then he was goingto divulge a bunch of shit, but
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he sent all that stuff already,right, all that classified stuff that he
couldn't say out in public. Again, was because she knew she wasn't gonna
get an answer, but she askedthat on purpose, the publics like,
oh, oh, put caveat here. What a beautiful never in your life
again. Will you be in asituation where you watch Matt Gates and Cortez
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in the same room and support andappreciate both of them because they were both
awesome, and like, I don'tcare what side you are. I'm not
gonna tell you what side I'm on, but like I was equally rooting for
both of them. When they weretalking, Oh, let's talk about that.
Matt Gates brought up that he describedhis He describes a protected disclosure of
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a UAP sighting at Eglin Air ForceBase. Gays also states that there are
photographs he and I think it wasBaquet and Luna also saw personally of the
ups being withheld from the American public, and he described talking to the I
think there were air Force pilots orsomething who witnessed this thing, and just
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that they were like he said somethingabout they were told just to if you
want to sort of move forward withyour career, you just forget about this,
keep your mouth shut kind of thing. And they were sort of talking
about that whole fucking The words stigmawas used again and again and again,
And I wish someone wouldn't have addressedthat and said, you know, do
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do we think this this whole stigma? I guess they can and it did
was but do we think this wholestigma thing about UFOs being a joke and
it's like fantasy or whatever was thatdesigned by this whole disinformation program. We
kind of got to that a littlebit, I guess, but yeah,
a little bit. You know,he said, look, whatever I said
in my News Nation interview, that'sthat's what's happening, you know what I
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mean, He's like, and Ican't talk about it other than that,
but um, but definitely they didput all three of them on the stand.
They did say they're still with allthe programs. There's still as the
key words, stigma for reporting becauseyour life kind of turns upside down when
you do that. And yeah,it's just not it's not there's this is
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this hearing was the most comfortable conversationthat I feel like I witnessed. Yeah,
aliens, UFOs, non human UAPs, whatever you want to call it,
Like the only guy and I cannotremember what is was then write down
who was just like, I don'tknow if I believe in extraterrestrials and it's
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like, okay, but we wereusing that word him more apparently. So
yeah, yeah, I don't knowwho invited me to this, but I'm
showing up. I'm not sure ifI believe, but you know, but
other than that, there wasn't anyLittle Green men and like, do you
actually believe aliens exist? Any ofthat stuff? No one played the X
Files theme song? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then you know what
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about Kirkpatrick. They brought him uptoo. You know, they said,
I can't remember who asked, butthey said, uh, you know,
Kirkpatrick's told us that that there wasn'tany any evidence of extraterrestrial life, and
I think there was Grush Yeah yeah, Brush said he's lying. Yeah,
he said I gave him every Igave him all this stuff ages ago,
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and he never go back to meabout it. He just left it.
And he was like, I don'tknow why he didn't like directly like Cole
shit on that guy, but hewas like, I gave him everything that
I'm gonna give you guys, andhe decided not to do anything with it
and then decided to come out andsay, yeah, there's no evidence for
good How day, are you Kirkpatricklike you are the new Hei Nick.
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He better have a redemption story afterall this, because it's so clear he
is up you skating. How doyou say that would off youse skating?
Yeah, he was put in thatposition to fight back against it, show
shitty spear spear like footage and actlike he's kind of annoyed of the whole
thing. He is in the statementshe made on TV are blatant lies.
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I trust Grouch, I just do. He has a higher clearance and he
seems a more legitimate person. Iam disappointed because I was in the beginning
very hopeful for him, but heis j Allen Heineck before Jana Halleck came
forward and said it is real andI was so I am so disappointed and
he should be implicated in all thiswhen it comes out clearly he's being controlled
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by somebody, and I can't waitto dig into that and just rail into
this dude as we go forward thenext couple of months, because he's holding
it back and I don't give ashit who's control rulling him. Um,
you're going to hear it from me, not that he but yeah, I
love of Josh Rant. I loveJosh Rant super fun. I don't even
know I was going. I justknew I just didn't like him. Yeah,
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that was one of the things thatso remember when they were asking Grush
directly about the fallback he's had andlike threats or whatever, and he was
saying it. I think he mentionedspecifically that it was coming from higher ups.
They were trying to basically ruin him, ruin his career, and he
said it was like super disturbing whatthey were doing to his professional and family
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personal life to try and fuck himover. After he came out with all
this stuff, he brought up hiswife would love to know what happened there,
but yeah, I brought up hiswife. But obviously and then I
think it was was at AOC orsomeone that brought that up who said,
like, no, I think itwas lunar. Maybe I don't know.
One of the Congress people brought uplike the fact that you are getting so
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much, um like heavy pushback andthreats from this speaks to the legitimacy of
what you're saying, right, Likeif you would just like if you were
just like another Randy Kramer talking aboutalien bea he's not getting fucking threats from
anyone. Seriously. That's what Ilove. That's what I love. I
mean, I love all of youin the UFO community. But some of
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these people that speak on panels andstuff, and they they say that people
are trying to kill them, LikeI think it would have been done already.
Do you know what I'm saying.It's pretty easy. I'm not gonna
name names, but like, noone's trying to kill you. But but
but I do. I like,well that's what that's it. That's a
rabbit hole. So I gotta stopmyself. People. I was ready for
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the ride. I'm ready for thenamed names. I named names. I
know you, I know, Iknow you're bullshit. Okay, So anyway,
um, you know I I alsothink you know. I watched him
on News Nation and do you rememberwhat after we had a podcast from Newization
and I said, you know,I don't know, like you watch people's
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body languages in interviews like this,you know, you're kind of like,
is this guy telling the truth?You know? Is he coming forward?
Is he disinformation agent? Right?We asked, We asked these questions in
our head when we're watching people givea testament or an interview, and he
seemed really confident and honest and kindof like, look, this is what
happened. This is what I cantell you, and that's it type of
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thing, and I'm coming forward becauseof this, you know. And it
seemed really clear to me. ButI said, let's just give it a
couple of weeks. See if theseUFO people and all these other people like
because they like they people like justjust can ruin people's lives over a story
that we're trying to investigate to seewhat else is out there. And he's
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been through the ringer and he isstanding strong and yeah, and his story
is still the same. He's like, no way, I'm still here today,
and I'm telling you you have tolook into this stuff. It's important.
And all these people are threatening meand I am I'm telling you this
is this is I'm here for this, you know. And I like,
I don't know, I felt hisintensity in the same honest way that I
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did when I watched that interview.Yeah, maybe that's intense in the interview,
but he's really well spoken, he'sreally methodical about how he puts things.
He's well prepared, obviously super intelligentdude, and yeah, like you
said. Everything he said came withlike confidence, like this is what you
want to know, this is yourquestion. This. I can tell you
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this, this, but I can'ttell you this. Come at me.
If you want more info, we'lltalk about it. In it in the
secret room. I don't know.They're assumed they have a secret room.
So we have a skiff that thisguy's a national treasure. He's almost trumping
Buzz Aldrin as my favorite American ofall time. Now that's a big call.
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Oh my goodness, oh man.Um okay, So something else that
um I thought was interesting that theydiscussed. And I cannot remember who asked
the question. I'm terrible at knowingwho asked these questions. There's so many
people and so much good stuff.I just apologize. I don't remember one
thing. One day they were talkingabout. I remember, I remember a
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black cube within a sphere or something, and I was like, talk about
okay, alright, let's talk aboutokay. So Graves one of the guys
in the Testament at eighteen Pilot UH. He tells the story Station in Virginia
Beach twenty fourteen. Squadron UH firstbegan detecting these unknown objects and He described
these objects as dark, gray orblack cubes inside of a clear sphere.
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Now here's the thing. For thelast five years, and I have definitely
reported on this in the UFO Witness, there has been an increase increasedness in
uh sightings of these square cubes allover the place, different states, different
countries. I mean, I'm sure, Josh, you can pull some statistics
on that, so you're and moveon. But, um, it is
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increased and people have video of it. Like but obviously if they're in a
clear sphere, you can't and it'stranslucent as he was explaining, and you're
not close enough to see you youcan't see it. So you just see
these square everywhere. Right. Iinvested a case that was in Texas and
Arkansas. Um, you know,people have all sorts of ideas of what
the square is. He says,where the apex or tips of the cubes
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were touching the inside of the sphere. Now, um, of course my
brain starts thinking of symbolism. Right, So there's tons of ancient squares inside
of a circle. Now, inalchemy, usually the squares outside of the
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circle the circles inside the square.So to square a circle is as a
form of power. Right, Butto have a square inside of a circle
is is a is an interesting thingbecause it shows up in a lot of
religious text as the square representing Earthand the circle representing some kind of spiritual
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realm. So, I mean,we're talking about religious texts here, So
if the circle represents some spiritual realm, that means it's something that can morph
between interdimensional travel. Right, Let'sjust let's just talk in let's go from
texts to you know, physical understandingof what that might mean, right,
because they're writing in spiritual terms.So a couple of things. I mean,
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I looked, I found references tothis square inside of a circle probably
in every religious text. But here'ssomething that I grabbed. The square in
Hinduism does not it's funny. Itdoes not attract attention like a circle or
a triangle. It remains neutral.In Hinduism. The square is a significant
symbol that has has both religious andspiritual means. But the square represents Earth
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and is associated with the physical world, and the outside of a circle is
the spiritual world. That's the translucentspiritual world, if you will, like
the magic and Christianity. In Christianity, uh, heaven is round, Earth
is square. There's a passage Ithink in Matthew who talks about the angels,
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Uh sat at the four corners ofEarth so that wind wouldn't wouldn't come
into the square and allow for windto pass over the sphere. This is
like, it's like a really strange, interesting passage. But if we were
talking about physical terms and we weretalking about uh, you know, now
you know, I'm I'm jumping fromA to Z here a little bit because
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now we're talking about a craft thatthat that he saw or several um it's
a it's an interesting Bible reference tofour angels stood at the four corners of
the Earth to stop the wind fromgetting inside of the sphere. I mean
we talk like, think about ifsomething was to interdimensionally travel, how would
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you move something physical the square andin through interdimensional travel if you're using a
sphere. Just somebody to think about, Yeah, my mind's racing on.
That's like, there's there are fourparts of the world that like we need
to be studying four different megalithic structuresthat make up the four points? Or
am I thinking too literal? Ithink if may be thinking too literal,
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I'm I'm really, I'm really thinkingof it as a device. Like like
you know, when we think abouttraveling in space with our rockets and our
understanding of how we can we cantraverse space and time with our with our
understanding of physics right now, can'tnecessarily do what we are suggesting through this
conversation, at this hearing that thephysical evidence we have of things that are
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traveling in space and time do notfit our understanding of physics. So what
I'm suggesting is the idea of thecoal and the square has something to do
with the mechanism of its travel andin religious text the I mean, I
don't know about you, but ifevery religious text says that that the square
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represents Earth, isn't that kind ofweird? Right? You think the circle
would right? Yeah, yeah,that's a circle would represent Earth, but
the square represents Earth and they right. I mean, I'm just saying it's
just odd. It's like the blackcube that represents is it Satin, the
planet Saturn? The control of time? Right, huh? But that's physical,
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right, So if you can controltime, space and time, then
then you've slowed it down enough tocreate a physical element which makes sense still,
right, And that understanding. Sothis this, I don't know,
it's just something that just to thinkabout, it's really interesting. I just
I just symbolism. I just textedyou guys both a Someone on Reddit did
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a cool three you rendering of allthe vehicles mentioned today, and so one
of them is the sphere within thesorry the square cube. I guess within
the sphere is the tic TAC videothing. And then the other one they
talked about was that massive square shapedvehicle that was like the size of a
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football field yea from military base twothousand and three. Yeah, right,
I want to dive on that today, but I couldn't find more information.
But I only look for five minutes. Did you find more on it?
Uh? No, I didn't.But was that Graves talking about that where
he was talking about it? Itcame over when they were doing test flights
or something. I forgured what itwas, but then it zipped away,
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disappeared, and then it came backagain later the night that night and a
bunch of people saw it from themilitary base. Wow, that was a
wild story. Yeah, like yousaid, I really want to dive into
what he was talking about that becauseI don't. I mean, I've heard
of like massive U foes flying abovepeople. I'm not sure I've heard of
that specific one yet. Yeah.I hadn't heard of that story too.
You're right, that was new forme. I mean we've heard of the
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football field thing. Did you guyssee my Instagram post like several weeks ago
where I was like, um,two aliens talking and it was like the
meme was basically like, Okay,I don't know why, but but their
measurement is a football field. Imess that. That's You're right, we
always do that. It's always afootball field. They're like, I get
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that. I know that, likean American football field, like football field
for soccer on a rugby field rugbyfield. Well, come on, no
one cares two kinds of football oreither soccer or whatever. Okay, so
wait, this guy's rendering. He'sgot the huge square over the military base.
Then he has the square inside ofthe spear, which we just talked
about it, and then he's gotthe he's got the cigar penis shape one.
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Yeah, the tampon. Yeah,the tik tak, which one of
the guys described as like a uhwhere did you say it was like a
gas tank or something? A gas, which kind of row my mind because
I thought I thought it was alittle bit like this, like a little
bit longer, but a propane tankis kind of shortened. Docky. Yeah,
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showed luck. And if you're you'relooking for the words, just trying
to help out there, thank you. I was confused. Um I don't
know, so um I don't somereally interesting stuff and some really great questions.
I guess my question next, likewhat are these people gonna do?
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Like, like the American public nowis going to be up in arms about
Oh wait, hold on, whatabout the sixty million trillion dollars that are
missing from the budget that was justsomehow announced in this meeting that what's his
name. I'm glad they brought abunch of that stuff up. Yeah,
billions of dollars missing? Yeah,BILLI billions of dollars missed. Sixty he
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said sixty. That was his number. You know we've heard of this black
budget type stuff. But he's likehe's just missing. He's like, I
don't know about you, but ifI miss like one dollar in my taxes,
they come after me. But like, we're just missing sixty billion dollars,
right, And then I think itwas Grush was mentioning, how how
did he say, like the privatesector corporations or whoever like Greteon and whoever
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like like greatly greatly overcharge for shitand that's how they lose a bunch of
money, as like they pay stupidamounts of money for stuff that they obviously
doesn't need, that they don't needthat for. Yeah, that's where they
that's where the black money goes.I guess, well it gets darker.
What I'm really worried about is thateverything is coming true. Not the pivot
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to gree or quick Stephen Greer,but that one of his whistleblowers came forward
if we've talked about it briefly abouttrafficking people after major disasters around the world
with reverse engineer UFOs, Because asmuch as sixty billion sounds like a lot
of money to do these large scalereverse engineering alien craft must cost more than
that. And they're not just stealingmoney, they're drug running and human trafficking
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running. Apparently potentially, I'm notI'm on the fence on this, by
the way, I'm not saying thisis true yet, I'm just saying I'm
worried that it might be because everythingelse is in These psychopaths who are controlling
this could be getting not just stealingtaxpair of money, but could be trafficking
people and drugs to fully fund theseprograms. These people need to be put
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in jail. This is bad.Like these people are to put the entire
planet back a fucking hundred years beforeselfish reasons. And it actually pisses me
off a little more because not onlyare they holding it back for the betterman
humanity, they're not even using it. Really. It's not like we're using
it to dominate China or Russia.Like they're not even using it. They're
human creating it. Yeah, soit's kind of lame. You're not even
like having fun with it. You'rejust being a dick. You're hiding it
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and then doing evil shit with it. Like at least I'm saying there,
there's so much potential for like creatingan amazing society with all the technology and
stuff. And yeah, I meanjust think about like arms dealers. They're
making shitloads of money dealing arms thatjust kills people basically, and they have
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zero scruples about it. They're makingshit tons of money. What do they
care. It's the same sort ofidea. I guess, Hey, yeah,
no, that shit just bothers me. I gotta pivot to something awesome
though that I heard. They didn'tgo into it. Grush didn't give him
info. But the Phoenix Lights cameup, which is my favorite event of
the last hundred years by far,Like it still is wonder and on me.
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It was part of the reason whyI'm so into this. It's not
like an experiencer case, but justa massive event like that. But he
didn't know anything about it, andI was like, all right, all
right, whatever, Grush. Ithought that was cool. They even brought
it up, but there was nomore information, so whatever. Kurt Russell
should have shown up and been like, I saw the Phoenix lights, motherfuckers.
And I was like, ah,Kurt, it's still got great Hair's
fucking great hair. Still, Yeah, yeah, I agree, right,
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yeah, all right. I meanit's the same It's the same thing with
the hearing today. I guarantee there'sa massive swath of the population who has
no idea this even happened today.No, And that just blows my mind
that just reading the Hunter Biden breakingnews today, that's that everyone's interested in
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that. Yeah, what a weirdsegue, like how could you put those
two together? Like Jesus Christ?That just bothers to me so bad.
But we're getting there, folks.This is a step forward. Am I
gonna get fuster taking it? Noprediction, Josh prediction, because I've been
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right, because okay, ready,so remember how we said they were moving
the ball slowly down the field?Clearly I was right. If you watch
the three um public hearings, we'veyeah the football field because we love football
analogies. We're past the fifty yardline now, and if you watch the
hearings, the first one was verytame compared to this, and now we're
here. My prediction is, Iwill I don't know, drink out.
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Will you guys give me some stupidthing to drink if it doesn't come true.
But there's going to be a presidentialannouncement. We'll find something. I'll
put that shit all over my face. He's gonna be a presidential announcement from
Biden by the end of the yearrelated to this. I feel like there
has to be now, and I'mreally confident about that. They have to
there's too much push now. Yeah, yep, that it officially acknowledges a
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non human intelligence interacting on this earthin some way. Now that's a big
state. It might start off aswe definitely have craft and we definitely have
things, don't worry about it.That's how it might start. But what
I'm hoping for is a definitive like, yes, they have been coming here
for a long time. It isreal. But I think he's going to
start with this crash bodies, thiscrash stuff when we're figuring it out.
So oh, I think that that. Sorry to cut you off, that
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was all you finish in a second, Josh, just a second, will
you fucking O'Connor um. That kindof gets us into we talked about today.
When we were speaking earlier, Joshabout that whole it didn't come up
at all today, and I wasjust like, I really wanted someone to
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mention that every whistle blower, Iguess, and Ross Coltart, the AUSSI
journalist, and a bunch of otherpeople, Lue Alisando, everyone's kind of
the Stephen Greyest stuff as well.Everyone's mentioning, mentioning that there's some kind
of timeline attached to this disclosure thing, and it seems like that's kind of
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a big deal that no one wantsto really address or talk about. And
I that's kind of really sort ofmaking me anxious whatever that is, right,
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Yeah, mm hmm true. Yeah, yes, before the end of
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the year. Yes, there isgoing to announce it. We the US
government hasn't has in possession non humanintelligent craft and biological remains in our possession.
More details and information to come.There's nothing to panic about. And
as he says that the stock marketwill crash, I recommend everyone after disclosure
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because I started laughed, I forgotthe other And that's a great book that
kind of goes through what's gonna happen. So if it does happen, just
relax. It's gonna be like COVID, they'll be able to right. Everyone's
like yeahs inside the sphears moving on. He's gonna drink a cup of angel
hair. I'll drink a cup ofangel hair. Yes, cup of angela
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legit angel hair, right, guys, I'll know the difference. Yeah,
Yeah, we're back in ten minutesAngela. I um m, well,
you know, like the guy atthe nail side, his feet rubbed.
He was like, yeah, Iwant to bring up and stuff. Just
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you know. Okay mm hmm.The football field, the football field.
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Mm hmm. Okay, wait whatmm hmm, okay, end of the
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year. You heard it. Youguys heard it here first, that there's
gonna be a presidental announcement, presidentialannouncement by Biden. That says what,
Josh, what is Biden going tosay by the end of the year,
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right, mm hmmm. Well,okay, hold on a second. Let's
address that for a second. Thereis there's Stephen Greer's agenda, and there's
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Congress and the actual whistleblowers, right, So it's not that one. If
there's not it's not that there's nota timeline, but we they're not.
They didn't invite Stephen Greer to thecongressional hearing. So just note that he's
not at the congressional hearing. Thisis between Congress and these main high clearance
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whistleblowers, right, So so thatthat doesn't I'm not saying Stephen Greer doesn't
have a stake in the game.And he's definitely brought a lot of things
to light for people, and he'sbrought a lot of witnesses forward. But
I don't I don't know about thetimeline. The timeline right now is basically
like Congress is like how do wehow do we move forward from here?
And so this is a good start, whatever that timeline is. But you
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guys heard it first. Josh saysthat there's going to be a Biden announcement
that there is non human intelligence beforethe end of the year. What is
he going to say? What's Bidengonna say, Josh, come on specifics,
amounts? What m h m hmm. Interesting? Okay, And then
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what happens if this doesn't happen byDecember thirty feet? I got subcrusted.
I want a fucking video, allright, Okay, So let's hope it's
not. David Wilcox's prediction in theEnd of the World twelve twelve Representative oguls
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from Tennessee mentioned that he was gonnaset up the skiff with the three witnesses
today and they were gonna he wasgonna request specific names, and I guess
corporations and stuff who have been hidingthis stuff through the Department of Defense.
And he's straight up threatened the Departmentof Defense and Intelligence with enacting something called
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the Holman Rule if he's denied.So I don't know what the fuck that
is And I looked it up andit's the Holman Rule is the United States
House of Representatives a rule that allowsamendments to appropriations legislation that would reduce the
salary or fire specific federal employees orcut a specific program. So he was
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gonna start fucking shit up, Iguess within the Department of Defense if he
can get answers, which I thoughtwas ballsy. Yeah, buddy, yeah,
yeah, sixty billion dollars of missingcareful man. Yeah, I don't
know. I mean, why theyhaven't enacted that just on that fact alone,
which they've known for a long time. Let's just go right now,
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yeah, right, you remember,you know, like you know, as
Josh said when we first started,this is a this is an opportunity for
Congress to see what the American peopleare interested in. Right. And one
of the things that we always talkabout this podcasts, and I always end
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the podcast with is that disclosure isup to the people. If you believe
it's happening and you want answers,it will come to fruition because they are
only selling what you're buying. Right. So that's how it works, That's
how Hollywood works, that is howWashington works, and right now they're testing
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what is it, Who are theymost attracted to in this congressional hearing,
what representative? What questions they're asking? They're testing the waters. Where can
they get money to dig into thesethings? And if you guys want to
know, what are the names?Where are the places that Grush says that
we have to be looking so thatCongress can pull it up and say this
is happening, this is real.Then you push for that, right like
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that's or where what happened to thesixty billion dollars? If that's what the
American public want to know and youwant to know, they'll put money behind
it to figure it out, becausethey're only selling what you're buying. And
that is the most important thing toremember. It is not for people to
tell us that aliens are real.It is for us to say something is
not right here. We want toknow, and we are putting our efforts
as the American people behind it,and that is the most important thing for
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disclosure to happen. And I thinkthat the American people are talking, They're
like, we want to tune intothis, this is interesting, we want
to know what's happening, and thatwas the most level headed, very smart
conversation about the idea that there couldbe non human intelligence on our planet or
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coming into our planet. And Iam that was pretty amazing to me.
Nobody was yelling at each other andnobody was accusing anybody of aliens not being
real. There's just like, Okay, this is interesting, let's have a
conversation about it. Let's figure outwhat like what is really going on.
And I think we're onto something.So and listen, you can. You
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can get out there to your localrepresentative and ask him to push this shit
too. Yeah, like that's partof the system. People use it right
right, Yeah, all right,guys. A disclosure six months from now,
presidential announcement three months after that,Angela or a hot couple of angel
video for all of you awesome,awesome members of Cosmic Cantana eighth. All
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right, guys, we love allof you, um and we'll be in
touch soon and please we want tocommunicate more with you, guys. We're
gonna probably do some more Instagram lives, but we love hearing from you.
If you have really amazing stories aboutthings that you witnessed, if you've seen
more of these cubes that that we'retalking about. That they were talking about
the congressional hearing. With spheres aroundit, we can continue that investigation.
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