UAP Senate Hearing and New Alien Discoveries!

We’re talking UAP, baby!

So much has happened recently in this space with government hearings and other exciting updates,
so we thought we’d break it all down in our own weird and wonderful way!

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Episode Transcript

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This week on Cosmic Cantina, we'retalking uapas. Baby. So much has
happened recently in this space, withgovernment hearings and other exciting updates, so
we thought we'd break it all downin our own weird and wonderful way.
So make sure you pour yourself aglass of the strong stuff and join us
for a wild conversation on an allnew Cosmic Cantina. I'm your host,

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Melissa Tittle, and every week Igo to my favorite bar, Cosmic Cantina,
and kick back with my co hostJosh Golambuski and Matt O'Connor. We
talk about aliens, bigfoot, ghosts, ancient cultures, and anything from the
unseen world that needs a little illumination. Welcome to Cosmic Cantina. I'm your

(00:47):
host, Melissa Tittle, and tonightI'm drinking some red wine, I got
some pino. I'm all jacked up. I am ready to talk about some
uapas and some weird shit. Idon't know about you guys, Oh yeah.
I mean this is a big coupleof weeks for the UFO crowd,
and I'm overly excited to talk tonight. Tonight, I'm drinking back to my
Ghostfish origins a kickstep Ipa. It'svery nice and I need tonight a lot

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to say. I'm fired up.I feel like a little fireside chat going
on here. I don't have afire. Maybe I'll stop one lighter.
We'll see how these drinks go.But I got a little whiskey Nate,
just to kind of just to endoff the rammed off the day a little
bit, just to kind of relaxand talk about flying spheres and people in
government talking about shit and let's doit, do it. I need a

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fire here. My partner decided toturn off all the heat and I'm freezing.
So I'm just gonna drink a lot. It's gonna help. And I
do want to apologize. We havenot been presenting you a podcast and it's
all Matt's fault because you went toMexico for three weeks and you know,
left us all here in the coldand dodgy tacos and spend a night on

(01:57):
the toilet. It was super fun. Yeah, really had a good time,
had a great time. So Mattis to blame. I'm sorry that
we have been behind. Just alittle update. We're going to start doing
live shows on Instagram. They're notgonna be that long, not like this
podcast with lots of information. However, it'll be a good decent amount of
time so we can interact with allof you because we miss you, we

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love you, and we really wantto to see your faces and of course
talk to you. So stay tuned, but don't worry. Some exciting things
have happened, and it's all goodtiming that we are back, because if
you are paying attention, there wasa hearing a couple days ago, and
we want to break that down,and we want to talk about some serious

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things that are in this field.A lot of you listening are either interested
in aliens or the paranormal, oryou're just getting into it, or you
heard that we tell Dick jokes andyou're super into that. But either way,
there's some exciting things going on,and there's a whole community that we
want to address about some serious issuesthat I think are stopping all of us
from actually finding the answers. We'regonna get there, but let's first break

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down what has been happened. Whathappened at this uap UH Senate hearing.
Okay, so I went to debrief. There's lots of articles talking about what
happened at the hearing. I lovethe debrief articles that they put out.
I think that they're they're kind ofwell rounded, and they try to hit
all the points and they try notto take a side. I really like
those guys. They're great and girls. All right, so let's just go

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through some bullet points, and Iknow Josh is going to follow it up
with some really cool stuff. Butbut um so a lot of people just
Josh, yeah, yeah, No, I got nothing to add. Yeah,
Matt, Matt, that's still inMexico. I just make us look
good, guys. That's all Igot. Sorry, Matt and Josh.

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I'm still mad at Matt. Ifyou haven't noticed you God, yeah,
like no one else. Yeah,woman's scorn. Okay, here we go.
So a lot of people got onsocial media right after the hearing and
dissatisfaction over again, no answers.There's no such thing as any alien beings.

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Like here we are again a projectbluebook. Nothing's changed, but here's
some bullet points that the debrief kindof points out that might be progress.
You can decide for yourself. Sodoctor Sean Kirkpatrick, he's kind of the
center actor. In this whole deal. Director of the DoD All Domain Anomaly
Resolution Office a r OOO testified ata special hearing before the Senate Armed Service

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Committee Subcommittee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities. So Kirkpatrick says, a a r
O is leading a focused effort tobetter characterize, understand, and attribute UAPs.
It would be naive to believe thatthe resolution of all UAP can be
solely accomplished by the DoD I seealone. Basically, he's emphasizing that they

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need the scientific analysis, they needmore analysis, and they need the scientific
community behind them besides just this governmentorganization. Now I know where we are.
A lot of people listening here arenot satisfied what has happened at this
hearing. However, I think thatthis is movement. I think this opens
the doors to say, look,we cannot have all the answers and we

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need the help of other organizations.And I think this is a good idea
because why should the government be theonly ones looking for extra trust, real
life and trying to figure out whatthose things are in our sky. I
think that this needs to be ajoint effort across all governments and scientific communities,
because how are we really going tofind the answer. So I think
that that statement alone is a progress. That's just my opinion. I like

(05:49):
your opinion. I don't disagree.That's all good stuff, but this whole
thing is a waste of taxpayer money. Let me break it down. We
already know that the Air Force,in the Navy specific the Air Force knows
everything, so all this cooperation isirrelevant because they already know the answer.
The reason why I liked this programand what I thought the progress was is
he they specifically talked about safe havensfor whistleblowers to come forward. That was

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in the NDAA last year and signed, and they're creating the corridor. Are
not exactly sure how it works.I know Matt came across some resource where
apparently there is no quarter, yetthey're trying to get there. That to
me is the only thing about thisthat is really really important. I actually
agree with everything you're saying. Listwe need that the government sha the only
people investigating this, but they alreadyknow. Right, the biggest answers are
already out there. We should beleading from what the government already knows hidden

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these deep black programs and then engagingthe scientific community. So the number one
thing I took away, well,I took away a lot. Don't worry,
I get a lot of rants comingup. Is that they're making a
safe haven for whistleblowers and that ifanything makes all of this like one worth
it true. True. And yeahthat's another point. You know, Are

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they just wasting taxpayers money? Idon't think they are. I think I
think this conversation needs to be happening. But don't you think that every time
they do one of these hearings,it's not mind blowing. They're just they're
just putting little pebbles or seeds ofthoughts, and they're seeing how it all
gets resonated with the community. Imean, this is this is how they're

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releasing things. They're they're testing thewaters. If the community, not just
the community of alien people, butjust in general humans do not agree,
then they'll keep going on that path, right, I mean they want to
in a way. They want tobe liked. Why they want commons common
senses fifty is fifty one percent versusforty nine. Correct. So if most

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people are like, no way thealiens are real, they're a lying to
us. They're going to change yourtone. So every time they like put
something together like hey, now we'regonna work with scientific communities that now that's
accepted, they're moving on to thenext level. I think it's a way
to just have drop to see howhow it's it's fed to the part of

(08:03):
the public response. Honestly, Ithink that's how. Yeah. I think
you're right, there's the societal thingused to be. It was all a
big fucking joke and like anytime therewas some sort of UFO story in the
media, it was all these thesestupid rednecks seeing the X Files theme.
So yeah, yeah, all right, Josh, we talked about this before,

(08:26):
just before you go on Melissa talkingabout like how it's another step we're
sort of opening up corridors here.Um, Josh, we were talking about
this where this uh doctor Kirkpatrick said, um, the AAA sorry, the
a r O has found no credibleevidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off

(08:48):
world technology or objects that defy theknown laws of physics, which I thought,
like when I when I heard himsay that and I read it afterwards,
I was like, did he justshut all this dawn? Like what
happened? But you have a differenttake on this, right, you have
you think that's not quite as solidas you know, hold on, hold
on, hold on, let mesee what I gotta say, and then

(09:11):
Josh can go off and fire asrockets off into space with all those opinions,
can we get through their match?Okay, Soxico for three weeks you're
in trouble. Let me Oh mygod, oh shit, yes, maam
all right. So one of thethings that we know, this is a
problem. There is so many cases. And I know, Josh, you

(09:33):
probably something to say about this.Now you are a move On member,
now um you are an investigator.There are many files. In fact,
I think move On at one pointhad to stop uploading the files from the
fifties and sixties and they start ata certain time here because there's just so
many files. So one of thethings that they that they they said is
it's it's literally impossible to do allthe cases for several decades. So they've

(09:56):
only been looking back to the midnineties nineties until now. So their window
that they're looking at is mid nineteennineties to now. And as you know
UFO stories encounters with aliens, theyhave changed from you know, even the
nineties to the eighties. The eightiesand seventies, seventies and sixties, so

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yes, they I know you can'tsee it because this is a podcast and
you can't see but if you lookup UAP reporting trends nineteen ninety six to
twenty twenty three, Kirkpatrick did putthis up on the screen if you watched
it live, he has like aUAP hot spots and I just find it.
I just want to drop. Thisseems really interesting to me. And
I'm not saying it's this or that. I'm not making a claim for any

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side of the coin. I'm justsaying that the hot spots are Russia,
Iraq, Syria, that location,and it's all of the East coast of
America. It's like La and SanDiego and a little hot spot for the
four corners, and then there's atiny little hot spot in Africa that I
can't figure out what it's there,But those are the UAP hot spots,

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So I don't know. That's alittle like where there's a lot of war
activity happening and a lot of crazyAmericans looking for UFOs, that like,
those are the only places that wesee ups. I mean, one thing
that stood out to me on thatmap is it's it seems to be all
located across the equita right, like, all straight through the middle of the

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Earth. Oh, I don't havein front of me. If that's true,
that's interesting. Oh yeah, you'reright, you're right. So that's
a really good point map because there'sthe the the theory of the thirty three
thirty third parallel which goes across thatpoint in the earth and around that point.
You're right. It seems to bein that area where you see the

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the the hottest spots and they kindof go right through the globe, which
is really interesting. I didn't actuallythink of that, but I just I
just thought, oh my god,why why are these in such hot spots
of either military activity or some kindof war situation happening. So anyway,
yeah, I mean, I'm so. I was just gonna say, is

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this just where like military bases arethe US military bases are located across the
world. No I thought that.No, I thought that too at first,
But we have military bases all overour country. There's a random hot
spot in Colorado. It is corridorsor we're flying constantly. But what's weird
is if you notice the oceans rightso we fly a lot off the ocean.
So yes, it's correlated to themilitary. That's what that map is.

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It's military play and seeing UFOs.But also the oceans have heavy signatures
there, which is correlated with everythingwe've been hearing lately that they're in the
ocean more there than the sky andthey're seeing them all the time. So
that also kind of proves that.Then stuff in the middle of Russia that
might just be because our military craftare there, that's obviously why they're seeing
them. But if you look atother UAP hot spot maps, not ones
from the government, it's definitely different. You know, these spots around that's

(12:52):
wild. I just looked up theline of the thirty third parallel and it
is totally in line with these hotspots, which is wild, which is
really wild, which that is initself an anomaly. So here's the thing
we're picking apart logistical statements and wordsthat Kirkpatrick said, people are reporting,

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you know, all of that.But but that in itself is interesting.
And I don't know if anybody involvedin all of this decided, you know,
they're like, let's make let's putit on a thirty third parallel and
put this map up and then notsay anything about it, and then somebody
random on a podcast is going tobring it up, and then it's going
to be a thing, and thenpeople are going to talk about it as
if it's some supernatural thing or ifit's just ironic, and if it's ironic,

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that is just odd. That's allI got. H crazy, I'm
dropping this ship. That's really interesting. That's that's some good stuff to get
people fired up. You're welcome,You're very very welcome. So I need
more content. I'm out of shitto say, dude, or just drink
a lot of coronas in Mexico andall of a sudden you just come up

(13:58):
with stuff. Yeah, look thereyou go. Yeah, I searching on
that seated on that toilet, huggingthe trash cannon from me, and uh,
you know, don't fig that foryou. Nope. So I know
before Josh is going to continue tobreak this down and add all of his
fiery opinions. You know one thingthat came to mind. I'm working on

(14:22):
another documentary right now, and uh, it's it's all on scientifically breaking down
how people come up with belief systems. Has nothing to do with aliens.
But I got stuck in this.This this guy's book. UM, his
name is David Graber. He's aYale or was a Yale anthropologist. UM.

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And and in this he talks aboutthe theory about how groups when they
started to come together as tribes andcreate civilizations. Believe me, I'm getting
into something. Just listen to me, you know, like why are we
into this? Or but the yellprofessor UM. He talks about how to

(15:09):
keep the peace of different groups ofbelief systems. Someone needs to be sacrificed
or something needs to be sacrificed.So what happens there's a victim, uh,
and the and there's a person,usually a person who is the cause
of all the suffering for all thegroups, and that person needs to be

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sacrificed. And once the person issacrificed, then peace is throughout all the
different tribes because the one thing thatthey're focusing on is now gone. And
I'll you know, like think ofum, think of wars or you know
groups. Right, there's a sacrifice. So I started thinking, just randomly
before this podcast, what if thesetup of uniting humanity was to come up

(15:56):
with the idea that something super naturalwas so evil and so bad and coming
here to harm us that it neededto be sacrificed to then create peace through
all these different belief systems on planetthat can't seem to agree. And I
know it's really far out there,but I was just reading this book and
I thought, well, that's areally interesting concept because if we can remove

(16:17):
it from ourselves. I mean,no, no human has to be sacrificed,
but the idea of something else,un human would be. That's basically
from Reagan said in a speech right. He was talking about how, you
know, we'd soon settle out differenceson Earth if we had sort of a
common enemy in some sort of extraterrestrialyou know, enemy that would come through

(16:41):
exactly everyone. I think it wasReagan, pretty sure. I was Reagan
the Unitedations. He did a bigspeech in yeah, the late eighties.
M yeah, huh. I justdon't think to think about it. I
get it. I don't like itbecause I'm just like that would give credence
to the false alien invasion hoax scenario. We keep hearing about that obviously recently

(17:04):
FBI agent, that FBI engine thatX files is based off. God,
I can't think of his name Johnde Susa. He recently said that that
program is intimate like that, thatthey're about to do that, and so
then you would be saying that likethat's on purpose to unite us against this
enemy, because it's actually good forthe mass psychology of the planet to fear
the aliens. That's what that issaid to me. That's what I But

(17:26):
here's the thing. I don't wantto take away what I but I don't
want to say to anybody listening that'shad an alien experience or seen a UFO
that that experience is not real.I still think that there is a phenomenon
happening on the planet. But ifI was to unite a planet over that
concept that this Yale professor was talkingabout of the sacrifice, the decision of

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what human to sacrifice doesn't work anymore. They need something bigger and something bigger
for everyone to believe in. Thatwould then a pause the uniting of all
these different belief systems. And there'sjust a thought. But I'm not describing
story at all. I'm not sayingthey're not real. I'm just saying that
there could be another agenda here andthat that really just hit a chord with
me, No, that's actually reallycompelling. It would oh man, imagine

(18:15):
that's the real reality. And that'swhy they can't disclose. They're like,
listen, the aliens just know what'sbest for us. We need to do
a false alien attack or they needto destroy a city and then we'll all
be better off. How do wetell the public that, Josh, you
can't write I mean that that issuper fascinating. I don't know though,
you know, it feels more likeit will be a hoaxed alien attack,

(18:36):
not for the benefit of humanity,you know, our control, you know
what this is also? Okay,we talk about this every podcast when we
talk about aliens. We talk aboutthe fact that, you know, you
know, not all aliens are goodand not all aliens are bad. And
you know, Matt and I arelike, be more on the cautious side,
and you know, Josh is like, take me after the ship and
probe me. This feeds it,This really feeds into that that thought process.

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Think about it, like, ifthere is something supernatural going on where
people are connecting with other interdimensional beingsor whatever you want to call them,
and at the same time, we'recreating an enemy to sacrifice. Uh,
that would play into that that goodand evil, that that idea that there
are there are things that seem positiveand things that are negative. Right Yeah.

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I mean for me personally, ifif there was some sort of like
Independence Day style attack, that wouldjust scream false to me because from everything
that you know, we've talked abouton the show and we've researched, they
don't need to do that kind ofattack. They're doing this the subversive like

(19:40):
cloned human, slow takeover kind ofthing over the you know, past how
many over decades it's been going on. That's where I think the you know,
they're not they're not stupid enough tojust come out all guns blazing.
I agree with you, But John, I heard John this user recently say
like it might not be like that. It might be more like there was
an engagement off the coast between abunch of military jets and they all got

(20:03):
shot down by some sort of extraordinaryvehicle theory. Yeah, I think it
might, because you're right, theycan't get away with that, ivery't like
get the fuck out of here,you know, you know, but it
would be subtle and complex. Maybeit's already started. Maybe the balloons with
step one, we don't know soI but I agree with you, like
that would be outrageous and no onewould believe that that'd be nuts. It'd
be so it'd just be like somethinglike one of the works in Hollywood.

(20:26):
Riders just came up with it IndependenceDay about three. Yeah, I mean,
did you see Argo. They hadthat whole thing written too, and
it was it was for the forthe betterment of that group, those group
of people. So look, I'mjust saying, just think about this.
We don't need to take sides.We're gonna get into the whole sides thing
in a bit anyway. But I'mgonna let Josh go on a rant.

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I just there's just there's just somethingthat popped into my head the other day
that I was like, Wow,this is just an interesting subject. I'm
just gonna leave it with everybody,and I'm gonna let Josh burned on all
the fucking bridges because Kirkpatrick's on hislist. Doctor kirkpatche Now, this podcast
is great. My mind got blowntwice. That is a really interesting idea,
Melissa and the thirty third parallels justcool. So I'm definitely gonna explore

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that more. So let's break thisdown First of all, doctor Kirkpatrick could
play Edward Norton's like middle brother witha goatee in any movie. That's what
he looks like. Yeah, youcouldn't, dude, He's even super serious.
She's like, I'm fucking this mostserious UAP guy of all time.

(21:32):
Like he's so serious. I mean, I love him at the same time
and like, just relax, dude, you're looking at You've got to fucking
professionally study UFOs. Like just takeit. Take a deep breath. So
let's go into this hearing a littlebit. And I just want to Matt
jumping anytime. I know you watchedthe whole thing, and please jump in.
So one of the things that wasreally interesting off the bat is Senator
Jill's brand, who if she runsher president on voting for us, she's

(21:52):
fucking awesome. She's leading the chargeon this is. She said, this
is I don't even care what herpolitics. It's just about UFOs to me,
she said, I don't even getso opening statements, she said something
that really stuck with me. Shesaid, if we knew or it was
strongly suggested that these UAPs were Russianor China, it would be the biggest

(22:17):
uproar of all time, and wewould react so fucking strongly to it.
Yeah, so that's just interesting becausethey keep throwing that out there like it
could be an adversary. And I'llget to the little more of that in
a second. So it's not anadversary like some of the cases he'll get
will be. But that's not whatwe're talking about here, and that's just
a little weird. So he goesinto some footage in this thing. I

(22:38):
recommend everyone to watch the videos hegoes into, and he says something that's
kind of cool when he goes inthe footage, and I related to as
a moof on investigator, was thatyou can't prove all cases. You can't
prove anything, Like you might notbe able to say it's a known object,
but you also can't say it's notextraordinary. So just because he's saying
he has no credible evidence of somethingextraordian doesn't mean that there aren't cases they're

(23:02):
extraordinary. He guess can't say whatit is, And if you really ask
yourself like that, that's like anI don't know what the right phrase for
that is, but like, howcan you prove something extraordinary? You know
what I mean, Like, whatdo you need if? Yeah, you're
right, how do you what doyou mean? But yeah, like yeah,
right, yeah, it's like it'snot happening, Okay, okay,
Yeah, you're totally right, Josh. Because when he says that the objects

(23:26):
that don't defy the known laws ofphysics, but but we have actually Meetschukaku,
he says that the images that weretaken from the ships and the planes,
He's like, they define all lawsof physics. And he's a quantum
physicist anyway, right, so whatelse are you supposed to say? Like
they're being too careful, but theyare moving the ball down the field.

(23:48):
As much as I was ranting againstthe waste of taxpayer money, I'm taking
a position here. But there arethings that are really interesting. What I'm
watching is for the subtle step forward. Because until this hearing, they never
said non human intelligence. They didn'tsay that. Today today they said extra
terrestrial. No point has a publicofficial really said like we're looking into that.
Kirkpatrick multiple times during the hearing laidout a couple different things. He

(24:10):
said, like, well, what'sthe gambitt you're looking for? He goes
foreign adversary stuff, and there aresome cases where it might be that because
they're more willing. The reason whysome things look extraordinary for them it because
they're more willing to take chances thanwe are. They just don't have the
rules out of the same in RussianChina, so they'll kill a few people
try to make something crazy. Butthat's not what he goes, we're looking
at that stuff. We're looking atnatural or just anomalous stuff that's hard to

(24:32):
figure out. But it's usually justyou know, something we can figure out
a natural phenomenon, and all theway up to extraterrestrials he said that.
He goes, no, we're literallylooking at that. We're we're trying to
see if that's it. Like sohe said, yeah, it's not off
the table. So they're moving theball slowly. Now everyone's like, oh,
they're investigating UFOs and extra terrestrials aretrying you know what I mean.
Before it was just like anomalous.And by the way, in the beginning

(24:56):
he states it very clearly out therepeople, it's not unidentified area phenomenon,
it's unidentified anomalous phenomenon. It's adifference and the reason why I want to
be careful about that because it's notall in the sky, it's in the
ocean, it's on the land.And there's a huge history behind this.
Go check out the Weaponized podcast dosome research with Skinwalker. Rant is a
huge long history of the US governmentclearly researching not just UFOs with the paranormal

(25:17):
and the connection between the two,from calamulations all the way up to UFOs.
So I thought that was really compelling. So he showed some footage,
right, and this footage was anORB and why I thought it was kind
of fascinating. It was way betterthan the footage they showed last time.
Another step forward. Last time theyshowed like something on a screen. It
was kind of embarrassed, Like thedude was like fat fingering like the controls

(25:37):
and like I was like, Ican't, I can't figure it out.
It was like it fucking embarrassing.I was like, Jesus Christ, people,
like my whole life when leading upto this moment, you're fucking failing
me, Like these fucking dudes,you know, like it looks like someone's
race of video. I guess we'lljust move on, right, So offensive
enhanced, But this fucking guy shownas much as I make it fund of

(26:00):
him. He was fucking serious andI like it. But he showed footage
that was a step forward from whatthey did last time. It's a real
nice ORB shot. I mean,we again he plays like it. I
don't how to prove this shit,but guess what that ORB is really compelling
for a couple of reasons. Onewe know from like our our friend Patrick
Jackson, that orbs are special.I've seen photos of things that in research
or fallen on the ground that lookexactly like the orb you see in that

(26:22):
in that video. It also strangelyreminds me of, if not identical,
I don't know, to the famousaquadilla footage in Puerto Rico of an ORB
that comes out of the ocean movesa couple hundred miles an hour at max
is zipping around, but that onesplits in two and goes under water and
doesn't change speed, so that one'sdefinitely like a high end. But that's
the best video of all time,by the way, I don't know why,

(26:44):
like we keep getting excited about newthing. You know that video.
Sorry, I'm gonna jump in andjust go on the sphere tangent here for
a second um that that video spurneda bunch of people on Reddit to sort
of dive into the other sphere basedU A p uh you know experiences that
happened, and someone posted a Ihadn't seen this before. I don't know

(27:07):
when it's from. It looks likeit's fairly recent. But it was an
Australian news channel who went to Texasof all places, to um interview a
guy called Jim Marlin and he heapparently has the story that he's had this
sphere in his possession for forty yearsand a friend of his who lived and

(27:30):
he lives on a property. He'sactually like a music producer or something.
He sort of released music with whatwas his name, Willie Nelson back in
the day anyway, so it's successful. Dude has a has a huge Yeah,
smokes of crape into the into theinto the desert would be good.

(27:52):
Check it out. Yeah. Well, so one of his mates, um
said, a UFO passed through hisproperty and released a bunch of these spheres
and he went and picked up acouple of them and gave one to this
guy, Jim Marlin. And sothis guy from the Australian news channel come

(28:15):
out I don't know how he evenheard about it, but he came out
to interview this guy and he wasjust kind of talking about how it has
like this odd properties and it kindof moves around by itself if you put
her on the floor, depending whereit is, he said, sometimes it'll
follow him around, which is odd, whether it has to do with you
know, the ground moving or whatever. But they took on this news program.

(28:40):
They took shavings of the outside ofit as best they could. They
could only get like a little bitbecause this thing was like I think it
was exactly fifty pounds like spot Onexactly fifty pounds when they waited, which
is odd too, like it wasjust like perfectly that weight. Anyway,
they at the end of this littleprogram they sent these shavings. He actually

(29:02):
took it to Gary Nolan to getget an analyzed. But it was frustrating
because they never found out what thefuck you know, what it was and
actually investigated it. So what washis inclusion? Was the metal anomalous or
was it just normal? I don'tknow. There was no conclusion to this
story, but people brought up therewas, um, it's exactly like this

(29:22):
thing that happened in the seventy fourto the Bets family. Um and it's
called the Bets Mystery Sphere, andso it sounds exactly the same. They
said. They on their property inFlorida, they investigated a small brush fire
that appeared in the afternoon, andthis family went out and came across a

(29:47):
small metallic sphere sitting in the ground. And their first thought was the sphere.
It was kind of some sort ofball bearing, like massive ball bearing
or a cannon ball or something.Yeah, And so they took the ball
back to their house and they saidit just had these odd properties to it.
So they said that the sun wasplaying guitar in the home, and

(30:10):
apparently the sphere seemed to react tothe sound of the guitar like it made
these It said, it made thesethrobbing noises, which was interesting because I
when I was in college, Iused to play the guitar and it used
to make people throb as well.But anyway, so I was waiting for
it now z anyway, so hehit me to it. Later, they

(30:33):
said the sphere was noticed to rollaround on its own and even stop on
its own. You know, itwas just on the floor rolling around.
It seemed to have a life ofits own it which just changed direction all
of a sudden. Um, isthat what happened when you played the guitar,
Like balls followed you around? Yeah? It was wild. Yeah,
it's like the pied Piper. SoTerry started doing the youngest son, Terry

(30:56):
started doing experiments with it. Henoticed the sphere would reverberate and hit with
a hammer like it was hollow.Maybe I don't know, he said,
when the sphere was after a shape. After he shook it and he put
it on the ground, it wouldmove around in place like it I don't
know. I had some sort ofsent it to it, like a liquid

(31:18):
center or something that was kind ofmoving around. The other thing was they
reported the sphere would follow them aroundthe house, which is crazy. So
same deal as like what this guyfound so creepy and these The end of
this Betts family thing is they sentit in to get tested to some governmental

(31:38):
laboratory and apparently they said they heardradio silence back from whoever they sent it
to, and when they requested theirreturn it, they said what they returned
was not the same thing that theysent them. Oh, they took it
and they replaced it with a fake. Yeah. Right, so that was

(31:59):
kind of odd too. So anyway, just a couple of spee things I
found after people were talking about thisSphee video online. Kind of interesting.
You know that we haven't talked aboutthis guy in a while. But Patrick
Jackson remember his whole theory where therewas like a mother ship and then it
kind of sprayed out, It sprayedout these spears, and then those spears

(32:20):
would interact with each other. Butit sounds like these kind of went they
just stopped working or something, theylike floating up. Did anybody in those
families get sick? Because another thingwith these spears when they're activate, when
they're in when the sky or peoplesee orbs that they're surround them, they
usually have some kind of radioactive reaction. That's what I was thinking, But

(32:44):
doesn't sound like it like this.Um what was his name, the guy
who was interviewed by the Australian channel, um Malin whatever his name was,
he's had this thing for forty yearsand he seems fine. Uh maybe that's
actually that's a really interesting thing.I'm not actually I've never thought of this
before. So these are you know, these are the same orbs if people

(33:06):
keep seeing they're not activated, they'rejust on the ground. When they're activated,
they cause the radioactive material to expel, and that makes people sick.
I mean, we talked about thata lot on this podcast about people how
people get sick around these activities withUFOs or orbs or all that our paranormal
activity. But um, but whenthey're not active, I guess they're fine.

(33:30):
I don't know, just interesting.Yeah, I don't know. It
could be the same thing, couldbe something completely mundane. I don't know.
But just to find spheres in youin your field after watching a UFO
fly past is pretty bizarre. Socool. Yeah, I don't think i'd
send it into the government though.Yeah, you know, apparently it never

(33:52):
came back. They got some sortof decoy. I definitely wouldn't give that
up. Is that actually a greatclip? I got a post of ORB
in a field. Someone gets agreat amazing shot of the same looking ORB
in that video, the same oneI've seen pictures of. Like it could
be CGI again, you don't neveranymore, but it's one of those videos

(34:13):
you're like, damn, like itlooks exactly like the Mosle ORB and I
gotta find that, I'll post it. But whatever we saw in that video
I've seen before, and it's weirdthat's in a war zone? Is it?
Ah? Is it a weapon?Is it one of our high end
things that we're using. Is thatall it is? I don't know,
Like I don't, I don't,I don't think so. Like they're clearly
moding to just the fact that peoplesay there's like it's seamless, like it's

(34:37):
just like a smooth spherical sphere thatcan somehow generate its own power to and
what was what was one of thethings that the that was the other thing
that was the the fighter pilot,the Navy pilot, UM Ryan Graves.
He was talking about these things umin the sky all the time, every

(34:58):
day up in the sky. There'sa few little spheres just like that,
not making any sort of like therewas no sort of like heat signature coming
from it, so there wasn't anysort of propulsion, but it was like
doing all this crazy shit in thesky. He was actually that was the
guy who was I was looking forwho was saying after this hearing he was
saying that he's still concerned that there'sno real mechanism or apparatus for you know,

(35:22):
Navy pilots or whoever in the militaryto come forward and and sort of
whistle blow that they've seen. Okay, he was the guy. He was
the Navy pot Yeah, yeah,Well, I do want to talk about
another amazing breaking kind of news inthe UFO space at a second, I
want to shift to that article aboutthat Scotty Andrews guy. But just to

(35:42):
end to just to end my takeon all this, like I kind of
went through all my bullet points,I just want to be clear about his
statement. He just I want tobreak it down. He says no credible
evidence for extraterrestrial So no credible doesn'tmean there is in evidence. It just
means they can't prove it. Andagain from earlier in our talk, like
how do you prove that? Whatdo they need? Does he need an
alien the step out of a ship? Like what is he talking about?
But all that aside, it doesn'tmatter because we already fucking know he's just.

(36:07):
This whole thing is just a showto get whistleblowers to come forward.
So the more whistables to come forward, the further exclosure will get pushed.
Now at the same time, thisis clearly a step forward in many ways,
and maybe ultimately that's the healthiest thingfor society to like slowly do it
over a decade and like you know, in a year, more and more

(36:28):
and more. But there is aclear escalation happening, but for people like
us, it's clearly not fast enough. I want to jump right to the
afterlife reincarnation of like butt pros,fucking short squatch. Yeah, I want
to talk about short squats. Iwant to talk about all the fucking crazy
beings on spaceships. I want totalk about intergalactic trade. I want to
talk about the connection to the afterlife. Like there's so much cooler things to
be talking about, Like we're stillstuck in like is it real or not?

(36:51):
Like what the fuck are people doing? People on Twitter are crazy.
They love UFO nuts and bolt shit, and like they argue over everything,
like I swear to God, likethey fight each other of like little details.
Well you said this once a longtime ago, so therefore you're a
fucking fraud and you're like, wellwhat are you even saying? Like no
one can say anything. You haveto have like perfect evidence. Then if
it's not, oh you're fucking crazyand it's just it's it's it's got to
end, and the debate's over.Like it's happening. I mean, we

(37:15):
know it's happening. It's a nonhuman intelligence. I will clearly state that
someone put a gun to my headright now. It's like, Josh,
do you know? I was like, I guess I do't a one hundred
percent because I don't have to provein front of me. But like,
that's what the fucking is. Let'smove the ball down the field right now,
we're at the fifteenth yard line.Let's push it to the sixty.
Let's get over right, let's incorporatefootball into this. Uh love it,

(37:37):
dude, But dudes, all right, but let's talk about this next thing.
I know both of you're gonna havea lot to say about it.
There's just so much happening, likeand like all these things that are happening
like ten years ago would have beenthe biggest fucking deal of all time.
It's almost like we are, we'regetting conditioned for it. So what did
Luel Zando recently tweet on Twitter?And he well, he tweeted an article

(37:57):
on Twitter and he wrote underneath itsomething the lines of to say this is
a bombshell as an understatement, andthe name of this articles from Deadline dot
Com. I's gonna read it toyou and then I'll just give the gist
and we'll go off on it.The article title is Simon and Schuster imprint
Winds Bidding War for twist filled memoirby US intelligence officer Tangled Up in Mysterious
military program. The gist of thisarticle is this, Scott Andrews came back

(38:22):
from somewhere in the world. Hewas intelligence agency agent. He started having
Havana syndrome like symptoms, but thenall of a sudden, he went away
and he had psychic gifts suddenly,and he was all confused, like why
am I all psychic all of asudden, remote viewing other things. And
then he realized going through his recordsthat as from a young kid, his
father was putting him in these schoolswhere he was taken out of school for
a couple of weeks every year growingup. And he was in the Air

(38:43):
Force for two years apparently, ora couple of years in his early in
his career, which he doesn't rememberat all. So what is happening?
What is that hinting at? That'sbeen in the space for a long time.
My lab these secret programs where theytake you from a young age and
train you'd interact with extra terrestrials.I mean, this is one of the
juiciest things ever because there's a lotof this in the space, and honestly,

(39:06):
a lot of it's fucking horse shit, like just liars in Charlton's talking
about like I was in a programyou know where this happened and that happened,
and I was on Mars, likeholy shit, But this whole I
don't know. Now, I'm like, I don't know, Like this is
this seems real, Like I don'tthink Simon and Schuster get behind it.
I don't think lou would have tweetedthat because he knows how much shit he'd
get if he was wrong about something. This seems real. So the truth

(39:29):
is always in between. You gotto Charlton's making enough stories, but it's
based off something real, Like howfucked up? So if you go to
this, if you go to thisarticle and you go to the comment section,
like immediately this people saying they're allan anonymous, but like right off
the bat, soon as it posted, they're like, I've worked for I
know a doctor who worked in theseprograms. People don't understand how crazy this

(39:50):
is. This is really happening.There's a bunch of crazy comments in it
that you're like, whoa, Andof course people are like, this is
one of them. I work forone of the doctors involved. At first,
I thought this was an insane link, crea of hoax. Then I
found out it's all true, factand true. The truth is stranger than
fiction. I can't believe it's actuallycoming out publicly. What a while time
to be alive. So I don'tknow, what do you guys think of
that. That's like, there's acouple of things I want to say,

(40:12):
but you know I can't. Well, I like, I always have the
same line, right, and Isay it almost every podcast, and I
say it when people interview me.And that is I don't have to believe
every part of someone's story, butthere is a grain of truth in that
story. And what is that grainof truth? And sure, we've heard
about my labs. There's actually governmentdocuments talking about my labs. There are
there have been these crazy programs.So is that the evidence of truth?

(40:37):
And then the interesting thing about thisstory is that now he's linking Havana syndrome
with the my labs, which Idon't think has ever been done before in
any other narrative or story or anybody'scome out and said anything that's really interesting.
I think that. I think whatconcerns me more. I mean,

(40:57):
obviously this is this is this isgoing to be a huge book and they're
probably gonna make a movie, right, is that everyone who's so pissed about
it, they're like, oh,of course, Lou, like you know
you're gonna you're supporting this guy becauseit's the same book label that the book
publisher that you have. You know, it's just like, well, how
can anybody get a story out?Like like you were saying, I just

(41:22):
right again? And why right?Actually it kind of makes sense. He
probably maybe he's involved in some wayand he was able to get this guy
to come forward that it would makesense. It's not the same publisher.
Like people are just dumb. Theydon't they can't think nuanced. It's like
everything's black and white. Yeah.I think what makes it super interesting for
me is that, um, likeyou was saying, Josh not mentioning any

(41:44):
names or whatever, but there arepeople who just create absolute fucking buckets of
horse come about this stupid ship Jesus, and uh, you know it's just
like absolute off the deep end nonsense. Clearly, I just did a lot

(42:04):
of my head. What were yousaying, Yeah, salty viscus buckets of
anyway, So but this doesn't gothat far. This this is somewhat grounded
in in that sort of zone ofthe like secret space. It's not like
a secret space program thing. Idon't know if I can say that,
Can I say that, Yeah,that's not copyright? Yeah whatever, Yeah,

(42:27):
you're not working there anymore as atwo years ago, so you could
say, yeah, uh you know, I that's that stuff is such a
fucking clown show. But this,this is a similar tale, but it's
somewhat you know, based in someamount of reality. Like these programs we

(42:47):
know testing on people have existed before. Um, you know, everything in
his story seems to even though it'slike conspiracy and that sort of stuff,
it's not completely outlandish where it's likeimmediately sends off red flags. So I

(43:07):
don't know, I'm super curious toread the book for sure, Like I'm
on board, Yeah, I'm yes, Well, you know, here's the
thing. We as we've talked abouton this podcast, the crazier the story,
it seems really more real. Thisis like just a little bit crazy.
Uh. And then people are like, well it's not crazy enough,
so then it's not real. ButI would like to address the bigger problem

(43:29):
in this community of different thought Processum. I love this. I love everybody
in this group because they're probably thepeople listening that are all into this stuff.
And if you're h and if you'renot listening and you've heard about this
podcast and you come across this thisspecific episode. But the problem is is
that everybody's in fighting all the time. I just released a talk show with

(43:53):
Nick Pope and it's called After Contact, and the same problem that Josh just
brought up. Said, let's stoptalking about if they're real or not and
just get to the point they're real. Now, what do we do?
That's the whole talk show. Sowe have good we have big quantum physicists,
and we have government officials and like, okay, we're done with they're

(44:14):
not real, real, they're real, they're here. What do we do
now? Like what happens? Howdoes the government organize itself? How does
the science feel organize itself? Likewhat happens, and all I got was
negative comments about how Nick Pope sucksand that he's lying to us and that
we shouldn't be talking about if they'rereal or not, like they crash landed
here in the forties, and I'mlike, oh my god, you can't
even get over yourself to understand whatthe show's about. And this is the

(44:37):
problem. This is supposed to bethe community of the future. This is
supposed to be the people going outand asking the questions, and all we're
doing is ripping down everybody else inthe community. Now. I guess there's
some people that seem crazy, andmaybe they're out there for narcissistic reasons.
I get that, but aren't wefollowing the path of reason. I'm not
even saying like you have to likeNick Pope or not, but but isn't

(44:58):
he pushing the ball forward? That'sall I'm saying. I was like,
people that are pushing the ball forwardfor understanding this phenomenon. Why are we
constantly ripping people down? I don'tknow, We're just not getting here.
That's mine bred, But I thinkit's healthy to have some amount of skepticism
and to be able to say youknow, I need some amount of proof,
Like you can't just make wild claimslike that and just true true.

(45:22):
I think that's healthy. And Ithink the whole problem with people, like
the infighting and not believing people,I think that's somewhat by design, the
whole like Richard Doughty stuff, Likeobviously that shit's still going on with different
people who were just like spreading disinfoand like fucking with people and just to

(45:45):
you know, throw crazy into themix and you know, just to stir
it up, and so people don'tknow what the fuck's going like what who
do believe? You know, butthank you for bringing up thank you for
bringing up Doughty. Yeah, loveDoughty. They're like, oh, well
Doughty was saying. I'm like,but Doughty told lies for a living,
and you're still believing everything he says, and there's there's yeah, I'm just

(46:07):
saying it because this thing came offwith Nick Pope. So Nick Pope did
not create lies for living. Heworked for the worked at the UK government
and he handled some of these things. He handled who oversaw the Rundel sham
thing. He was there. Okay, I'm not saying he tells the truth
all the time. I'm just sayinghe didn't make lies for a living,
but Doughty made lies for a livingand we still believe him. So this

(46:30):
is the craziest people are. Heliterally famously said, like it's ninety percent
truth, but ten percent I threwin lies. Actually didn't. But trust
I trust that guy. Yes,you want I love him though, he's
great man. He want a character, you know, like he's totally character.
Everything you say is I'm like,go on, I want to hear

(46:51):
everything you have to say. Hewasn't mentioned in the recent hearings. Didn't
who one of the senators who mentionedhe was talking about one of the US
people at Rendersham US military people whotouched the craft. I'm pretty sure that
came up. Yeah I did it. Yeah, I've heard that before.
Yeah, I've heard that before.And then and they got downloaded with something

(47:12):
that whole incident is way bigger thanYeah it did. Yeah, and one
of yeah, I'll see if Ifind yes. Senator Mike Mike Gravel talked
about Sergeant James Peniston to have toucheda UFO alien spaceship that landed in Rendersham
Forest. Yeah, so he heasks was he there? Wait, well,

(47:37):
hey, why are you figuring thatout? I just want to make
a connection renisham Forest. It isa movie coming out called Copple Corporal Green
or something, and it goes intoa lot of stuff that's more extraordinary.
Like we always hear like the bassstory they saw ufo, Oh my god,
what was it? But so muchmore happened. It's always deeper.
It connected to paranormal quickside tangent,like like um Kenneth Arnold, people always
hear his famous story that he sawa saucers skipping. Well, first of

(48:00):
all, I didn't say flying saucer. That was coined by the news.
But what they don't tell you isthat he went home and him and his
daughter and his wife, I forgetthe exact story, had a bunch of
parental activity in their house and orbsand all this crazy shit. And then
he made the connection to the afterlifethat happened in the fucking forties. So
we just don't hear the whole storythe same thing. Right now, you're
like, well, two guys sawsomething. You know, there's a great
talk about it, but really it'sway more complicated. I covered that.

(48:22):
Yeah, yeah, So this wasYeah, this was that the Citizens United
hearing UM Senator Mike Revell and quizabout Peniston's claims to touch the craft then
landed and rendershop forest And apparently peopleare like, man, he just like
asked that one question, got alittle bit of an answer, and they
just moved on. Like everyone waslike, what the fuck dive into that?

(48:45):
Oh yeah, hell yeah, damnthat's a crazy story because um,
again those guys got ripped to shredsbig time. But Penniston touched the craft
and he got downloaded with all theseimages and numbers. Yeah, and he
went back home like in his notebookand wrote them all out and they were

(49:07):
like zeroes and ones. You youhad some connection to that guy, right
then, you didn't you? Yeah? So I, um, I think
we talked about this podcast. Sorrythat we do have a tangent. Yeah,
if you don't mind, we've doneover. We're gonna repeat a little
bit. Guys, don't worry.Okay, So all right, sorry,
this is and uh, you know, ninety ninth episode. Um so,

(49:28):
when I was working for Ancient Aliens, UM, we had exclusive rights to
cover that story besides putting it inan Ancient Aliens episode we did like a
little special with Linda Moulton Howe andeverything, and so Linda brought the two
guys to us and we made himpart of an episode. That was my
job to kind of continue with themto you know, we're gonna build this
other thing. We're gonna take themout into the woods for the anniversary.

(49:50):
We did all this right so beforethat, as I'm trying to build,
you know, a unique part ofthe Randelsham story into an Ancient Alien episode,
which is all about out you know, connecting everything, which didn't really
work because it's called ancient Aliens,right. I you know, Penniston had
this notebook and I said, wouldyou mind sending me the notebook? And

(50:13):
I said, you know, we'reunder contract. You're gonna get it back.
No one's going to take it fromyou. And he's like okay.
So he sends me the notebook andI had like the triangles and the shapes
and stuff like that, and thenhe had those six pages of zeros and
ones and I thought, oh mygod, you know it's a binary code
where I should get it? SoI called some r random gamer in that
I found on the internet. He'slocated in Minnesota. Some guy who lives

(50:35):
in some moms and mom's basement justdoes codes games and decodes people's problems with
games. And I, you know, I reached out to me. I
said, do you know anything aboutbuying ary code. He's like, yeah,
like stupid lady. And I likehad like a false email. You
know, it wasn't connected to Prometheuswhere I worked, It wasn't connected to
my name. It was just thisemail. And I'm like, I'll pay
you three hundred dollars if I gaveyou these six pages which I copied of

(50:58):
zero zero ones and tell me youknow what it says in binary code.
And it came back with the coordinates, and it came back with a message
says it says for all mankind.And then it had this coordinates and the
coordinance was off the coast of Irelandwhere apparently there's another story of Atlantis that
happened like right there in the waterRyeah. And then this random dude so

(51:24):
like it was weird, Like soeither Peniston really decided to write down zeros
or ones and then like and thento you know, make it, like
to make it himself. But Ihad the notebook tested. I want to
make sure that the notebook was Actuallyit was one of those you know,
those black and white kind of studiousnotebooks, but they're like there's different kinds

(51:47):
for different years, and so,you know, says in La, So
you can always find somebody who doesall this art ship and they know like
what art, like what notebooks comefrom what and what year And it was
from the year that he uh thathe had that experience. It wasn't like
a new black and white notebook thinghe brought and then wrote the zero zone
ones because he figured out buying arycode and decided to make a message.

(52:09):
Uh yeah, yeah, I'm jealousthat you were a part of that and
got all the information. That's socool. Yeah, Linda hated me for
a few years. Well really yeah, she got mad because it wasn't it
wasn't her, and so she tookit and got it decoded and it was
close, but it was like someoneelse decoded it and like with a sort
of a different message, and I'mlike, but it's already out. And

(52:31):
then like the person she probably foundknew that it was for aliens. You
know. Yeah, yeah, damn, what a crazy story. Crazy anyway,
crazy Shit's happening. People, spearsare landing in people's backyards. SENTI
hearings are telling us nothing. Butthe truth is, we as a community

(52:52):
are deciding what reality is. AndI think the more that we bind together
and we moved the ball forward andsay we want answers what is happening to
us? Uh? And and ofcourse, um that big concept of you
know, maybe there's a supernatural sacrificethat we're all supposed to agree upon.
It might not be a bad thing, just same, Yeah, I'm open

(53:14):
to it. I'm open to it. I think, like I said,
humans are dun dumps. We needwe need to be pushed in the right
direction. Sometimes someone's gonna burns.True, we're gonna sacrifice the virgins.
Aliens are complicated, people are stupid. The whole news podcast we're starting,
that's right. Yeah, before wewrap it up, I have like a

(53:38):
shotgun spattering of like just little littlestories that I sort of picked up as
I was scouring the interwebs. Um, we don't have to talk about them
all, but it's just some littlelittle things that popped up. Um.
One of the things was, oh, the the Hunt for no the Skinwalker

(53:59):
Ranch book, the come on thatcame out what was it skin Walkers in
the Pentagon or what I was gettingsat the Pentagon. Yeah. Yeah,
So the guy who they referred toas Axel Rode in that book, who
had the experience with his family seeinglike the dog man out in the forest
and all that's crazy shit that wasgoing on. So that guy recently recently
retired apparently, and he his nameis Jay Stratton and so he was Yeah,

(54:24):
he started I think he started talkingabout it, but he was the
guy was he weaponized with Jeremy Corbellrecently. I think he came on to
talk about it. Yeah, I'mjust looking at a news story where he
he talked about him being that Axelrod guy from the book. So that
was interesting. So it's like alegit, legit person. It wasn't just

(54:45):
a made up story. Yeah.What was the other thing? Oh man,
that's been so crazy, like cattlemutilations that have been happening recently.
One um that there was an Australianstory I think that was going around read
it for a while there of likea couple in my home state of Queensland,
back home in the landown under whowho were going into who were like

(55:09):
had like numerous cattle who were gettinglike mutilated, like the classic mutilation stuff,
and they believed they believed it wasthe aliens. But it just popped
up in Listen, Madison County,Texas on the nineteenth, which was the
story is from yesterday actually, andit's it's the classic of you know,

(55:35):
the perfect you know, surgical cuttingout of specific organs around the face,
the genitals and the anus caught outand all that sort of stuff, no
blood whatsoever, completely disagminated, allthat crazy shit. It's still happening and

(55:57):
people still don't know what understand.Like this costing these people like thousands of
dollars just trying for this UAP hearing. That's amazing. Yep. So that
was another thing that happened recently.Uh, let's see while you're falling up.
There was a great episode on notto Keep Plugging Weaponized. But they
get all those like government insiders,but calm Kell and her who ran NIDS

(56:20):
and worked and Skinwalker ranched, theydid large scale surveys on the accatimulation and
it was a fascinating episode. Thebasic theory was there was two things going
on. There was clearly something anomalous, clearly humans making trying to figure out
what the aliens were doing. Orhe's mudding the mudding the waters. And
it's not just cows, it's horses. It's like a bunch of different types
of animals and weird shit. AndGod, remember that cow video with a

(56:43):
cow just gets dropped out of thesky into like it's a facility. You
ever seen that clip on YouTube wherea cowle just gets dropped all of a
sudden suddenly slams down on the groundlike inside of a house, and you
don't know where it came from.You guys here, he remember that,
I share it with you. Dude. The farmer won't talk about it,
so it's like, again like oneof those cases you'll never know he posted
it was like, what the fuckwas that? Because these guys sometimes we'll

(57:04):
talk about it gives him too muchattention. It's like, Jesus, I
used to get out of here yangby the Fradians, you know, and
yeah, there's some like hell raisershit going on with those poor poor cattle.
Um, Jesus. The other thingthat popped up was, oh,
James Fox on you know, thedirector James Fox. Yeah, it does

(57:24):
all the UFO documentaries and stuff.Super interesting. Guy. Um, he
did a talk with Leslie Keene youknow that name, yep yea and she
she apparently h confirmed a bunch ofstuff. Mamber. We talked about that

(57:45):
Brazilian UFO case in Vagina, theguna whatever it was. Yeah. Yeah,
well Moment of Contact is big documentary. Yeah. I was awesome.
Yeah yeah, yeah, So that'sbasically what James is. He working on
that next, that's his next bigthing. That's the one that came out.
His next big one is something else. I forget. He's doing another
big story. Yeah that was whenthat came out. You see, it's

(58:06):
really good. It's a hardcore investigativepiece. And meeting all the people on
the ground, like yeah, sothis was done. This is where they're
talking about like there was people whoactually they're saying they have he almost got
video of the creature apparently or hedid get video or something and then people
got scared and I don't know ifyou got it or not. But Leslie

(58:28):
Keene was saying that she actually confirmeda bunch of stuff regarding that case from
military intelligence in Brazil and the US. Yeah, and she she confirms that
there was US was directly involved withthe crash retrieval efforts and that biological samples
were recovered that had suggestive components ofcoming from non human non human creature who

(58:57):
So that should be interesting to followup eventually when that comes out. It's
also a real case of reptilians.These things had red eyes and had they
scribe the very reptilian. They werenot grays. It was something different,
which I thought was cool because youonly hear about those fucking little short grays
a finger bang people in their bedrooms, like yeah, that shitting one to

(59:19):
the tall ones. All right,guys, enough of there's so many updates,
but we have so many more podcaststo do to update you on all
those things. So thank you forjoining us tonight. Be safe out there,
Keep your ears and your ass tothe ground, and keep your mind
open and your heart's open to understandingwhat's happening around you. And don't get

(59:42):
caught up in some emotional battle becausesome person's lying about aliens versus the other
one, because who the fuck's tellingthe truth anyway, But let's push the
ball forward because we want to knowwhat the f is happening out there,
all right, Everybody, have agood night, be safe, goodbye,