Ep. 1062: Twitter Questions: MSU football predictions; and who's weirder, Couch or Harbaugh?

We answered your questions on Michigan State's football team, expectations and predictions for MSU players and season wins, on MSU basketball, the future of the center position and what-ifs in Izzo's tenure, on the Tigers, Lions, where "that's the taint" ranks as a show moment, and who's weirder, Couch or Harbaugh?

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Ah ah ah ah.

Speaker 2 (01:17):
Ah oh ah.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
Oh what do you get when you cross a know
it all newspaper columnist with an awkward, unsophisticated every man.

Speaker 4 (02:01):
Yeah, well, I'm just not sure about that right now.

Speaker 3 (02:15):
WELLO, Couch and the Room.

Speaker 4 (02:18):
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Speaker 5 (02:56):
That's the taint? What's up? Buddy? Oh? Are you that?
I love that Couch comes in, strolls in, you know,
twenty five minutes late as usual, and he's like he
comes in here. By the way. A lot of people
have been asking about the taint clip, like I hadn't
had that cut since fucking The show was over on Wednesday.
Are you kidding me, windsor the tt that's the taint.

(03:18):
I appreciate you covering all the bases for our couch
and the Root program, but you know I had that cut.

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Come on, I'm glad, glad to be here. I think
it's gonna be a fun show. We are going to
dig into your groogle. You're good to be here. On
Twitter questions, Hey, it's touch.

Speaker 5 (03:34):
And go with you. Sometimes, I got a big column
coming up. I uh, it's gonna be tight. We have
we have new deadlines, like please please do not cut
anybody's Twitter questions today. We have new deadlines at the LSJ,
which creates some challenges sometimes, so a shake up if
you will.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
I don't know, but shake it, but yeah, like yeah,
basically the column had to be filed. This show is
not in an opportune time for my work schedule all
the time. And we can change it. What time you
want to do it? No, No, I like the time. I'm
just saying we can do that. We did that once,
but anyway, and I have to have certain things done

(04:09):
before I come in here, and sometimes it takes what
it takes, you know, So I'm not the fastest because.

Speaker 5 (04:13):
Usually you're you're on time, correct, you know, because this
is an aberration. Yes, this is a one off. Thank
you as long as we understand that. That's the take all.

Speaker 4 (04:24):
Right, before we dig into these groovy done it Twitter questions? Yeah,
are you betting anything this weekend?

Speaker 5 (04:30):
More importantly than what I'm betting. I just found out
the other day. I thought John Daly was not coming.
The Ally Challenge is this weekend. Now I'm going to
live tomorrow. But I was thinking about shooting up there
Sunday because it's a no cut the Old Timers event
up there in Warwick Hills, great golf course up there.
I'm thinking about shooting up there. Here's the question. Do

(04:51):
I try the chocolate milk thing again? You have to?
You need a better and record it. Maybe the TikTok.
Maybe that'll have the TikTok take off, because I gotta say,
I don't. I'm a little short on patients with the TikTok,
So I don't know if we're gonna this show is
going to still do it, stay with the TikTok. I
just hate it.

Speaker 4 (05:08):
I don't know, I just despise. Yeah, we shouldn't do it. We
shouldn't have anything we don't like it, I understand, yah,
but if people enjoy it, it brings people into the show.
We're trying to bring people into the show that normally
don't listen. So I'm trying to do other things even
if you don't really like them.

Speaker 5 (05:20):
We have plenty of people. I don't know why we
have all these people. We have them. If you don't
like the TikTok, we shouldn't do the tick, I understand,
But I'm just trying to branch out. Someone said, hey,
because you never know if something takes off, and true
that anyway. So yeah, so this Sunday, I don't know.
So I'm going to live tomorrow, so I'm not gonna
really gamble on anything I can't view on my television.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
So I will say this, I think you should try
the bit again with John Daily where you ask him
how much chocolate milky he's had.

Speaker 5 (05:46):
But then I'm gonna have a phone. It's gonna be
really bad.

Speaker 4 (05:49):
But here's the thing. It's not like if it goes well,
you will feel better about yourself for the rest of
your life.

Speaker 5 (05:55):
How could it go well though? If he like gives
you a thumbs up that's not well, or says like
I saw him crushing a chocolate milk with it. I
know this was a young kid, but I like, really,
that's how I envisioned it would go. What if he
shares a chocolate milk, dude, I would probably pass out there.
You go, right, then that's going to fall over it.
But if it goes if it goes poorly, it already
would poorly. It can't get any worse. I shouldn't be

(06:16):
around celebrities. We've gone over this, so I don't. I'm
really like, I have a lot of trepidation with it
because I don't want to ruin. I don't have a
relationship with John Daily. But I mean there's a possibility
it could go worse though, yeah, right, Like there's a
small possibility it goes better, but there's a gigantic possibility
it goes worse. Most likely it goes because the at
least his caddy. He's like, oh yeah, he actually had

(06:39):
a fourteen, so he saved me a little bit of
all of that anguish. But anyway, I am right, So
I'll let you know on Monday.

Speaker 4 (06:46):
I am looking forward to that. I am That is
a story. By the way, if you do it, they'll
be worth telling, presented by our friends at Midtown Bruin Company.
So I hope you do because I would love to
have that story on Monday.

Speaker 5 (06:54):
So what is this soccer bet? Harry kept updating me
on some soccer bet yesterday. Did you guys lose or
donut or something?

Speaker 4 (07:01):
I don't That was different, different than what I have,
Different than what I have what I have this weekend, Like, Harry,
come on, I think there's a good two leg favorite part,
there's some other. I'm still getting my feet wet with
the Premier League. Like you know, there's some things I like,
but I don't want to go. There're more leans, you know.
I mean I like, I like Bournemouth at home against

(07:21):
Wolverhampton right minus one thirty. Yeah, I like some of
these things. But what I really like is Man City
in a parlay with Arsenal Man City minus one eighty
five or minus ninety minus one ninety five, Arsenal minus
three seventy five, Arsenal at home against Leeds, Man City
at home against Tottenham parlaying together. It's about even money

(07:41):
that I like. I just lean that one.

Speaker 5 (07:45):
I'm that one. I'm giving that one.

Speaker 4 (07:46):
I'm giving leaning leaning on some others, but I feel
good about that. That that one, I'm you know, I'm
you know, the under on Nottingham Forest Palace.

Speaker 5 (07:53):
Maybe a little bit. I don't know that.

Speaker 4 (07:56):
There's a lot of my I just getting a feel
for don't don't don't love this weekend, But that is
what I I'm betting this weekend presented by our friends
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Speaker 5 (08:07):
So what you're saying is it could go either way?
Could go either way? Oh, I don't know. Eric Schultz up, first,
did you find out whether or not Jason Strehorn was
fired because of the Nick Marsh thing?

Speaker 4 (08:19):
My understanding and I have talked to some people about this.
Isn't he still doing that podcast? The I'm the sparta, Yeah,
they had nothing to do with Nick Marsh. They had
nothing to do with Nick Marsh. And I can't the
things I know, I haven't really confirmed, and so I
don't I don't want to.

Speaker 5 (08:35):
And it's nothing like can you tell me and I'll
blurt it up from what I know, And again I
haven't confirmed this. It's it's not that bad and that.
I don't even know if.

Speaker 4 (08:42):
It's it's fully justified what to see, but it's I
think just I think it was an annual contract, so
they are within their rights to a certain degree, I think.
But so no firing, but well no, I oh, it's
still if you let somebody go after nineteen years, that's
what it is, right, You're not.

Speaker 5 (08:57):
Just you know, you can paint that as like someone
just wanted to move on with their family.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
The idea that he was recruiting Nick Marsh to Michigan,
from my understanding, has nothing to do with any of
this is absolutely just okay false.

Speaker 5 (09:09):
Yeah, next one from Mark Schaltz. You always used to
say that D'Antonio would be remembered positively once we got
further from his era. Yet for me, the fact that
he refused to adapt and retired at a time that
screwed over the program are still the front of mind
when I think of that era. Do you think I'm
in the minority there, No.

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I think people feel a lot of different ways about
Mark D'Antonio, and I've you know, I've talked about how
I thought he would age well, and I think he
will age well, especially if the program so it's it's
there are two ways to look at this. If the
program struggling, there's sort of an appreciation for that he
did it at all and how long he did it.
But he's part of the reason the program struggling today. Still,

(09:51):
he was part of a transition that didn't go well,
and so I think as I look at it now,
I kind of think that the appreciation for him will
be more once the program gets on its feet again.
I mean, I do wonder I people are older. Is
that all on him about the transition though? Well, me
a little bit of it. Yeah, if he had left
after twenty seventeen, I think things go a lot better.
I think the program was on better footing, they would

(10:13):
have won it. Left after a ten and three season,
he would have been thought of sticking around for eighteen
and nineteen, you know, when they just didn't have the offense. Now,
there are reasons like eighteen you get the Lawerky injury,
and the defense was still elite, so there were parts
of the program that still had remnants of greatness. But
then you know, and then the pandemic that would have
gone horribly if he'd still been there, Like if he

(10:35):
had stuck around and not left the second he did.
If he leaves a little earlier that year, they get
a different coaches at better than melt Tucker. Melt Tucker
still produced twenty twenty one. Would if MS you've been
more ready for nil? I mean, there are a lot
of things to think about in that sense. I do
think if the program gets itself in a good place
where people feel good about it again, that what D'Antonio
did would be more and more appreciated. But I do
wonder for older people, like when you look at D'Antonio

(10:57):
versus Parlis, and D'Antonio won bigger than Perlis, but there
are similarities in the sense that Perlis had this. You know,
they built the program, they have eighty seven through ninety
and then it sort of falls apart, and he's the
ad and ivery loves that, and there's a lot of
con and so D'Antonio is better than pearlis in the
hierarchy of Michigan State football coaches. But in other words,

(11:17):
it rarely ends well. And I wonder how people have
been around a long time think about those two guys,
and yeah, I think the program needs to get better
for people to feel better about it.

Speaker 5 (11:28):
Maybe maybe next. Is this the best week of the
year for MSU fans. It feels like we've been waiting
fourteen months to hope again.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
It's a long wait in football, it really is. Man,
we deal with this in the NFL. You know, they're
TB doing a show two days a week, three days.

Speaker 5 (11:43):
Whatever we do here in constantly like, oh my god,
I can't talk about Jonathan Smith.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
It's a short season, like in soccer, you know, in
the Premier League you get nine months straight and football
is this four months sprint and then you get to wait.
You get a bad injury, a season goes badly, you
essentially have to wait, like, you know, eleven months to
living and think about being in the South. What they
got nothing else to live for? Things go wrong, it's
just drink brutal, but you couch a drinking game. What

(12:11):
would you tell the people in the South if you're
recruiting move north? Yeah, yeah, what are you doing? I
have no sympathy for you, but yeah, I know I do.
Think it's the beginning of football season is always as
good as it gets. It's yeah, it just it's just fun.
I think it happened and in the football season is
scarce enough, even though you know, the Super Bowl drags

(12:32):
out till February and it's essentially six months, but there's
enough scarcity still a product, even though they sort of
play every night of the week. I guess now that
you really are looking forward to it, and at levels
that I don't think like it doesn't exist in the
NBA in the middle of football season. The NBA has
barely be gone. It comes back. I like the NBA's early,
but I'm not like sweet opening night regular season NBA,
I used to I usually realize it's opening neither the

(12:55):
NBA sometime of around three hours before tip off.

Speaker 5 (12:58):
You know, the NFL we've all known for a long time.
I mean, yeah, it's awesome. Next one, for maybe maybe
last MSU tailgate was a Subway foot long. What where
should I go before or after the game Friday night?
I don't think I'll have time to hit up groovy
Donuts before foot long? That was the tailgate you were

(13:18):
at that they only had a foot long or we're
talking table for one here at Subway.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
Yeah, so in other words, it was just not a
real tailgate, just you know, okay on her own. She
just didn't have a lot of time through Subway. Didn't
have a lot of time. You got to get to
the game.

Speaker 5 (13:33):
No Jersey Mics or Jersey Giant from forty three and
Cask and Companies real near there.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, it's not you know that's an obvious Yeah. Yeah,
she brought up subway. Yeah, and I'll say this. Uh
Groovy Donuts obviously is only open till one pm on
Friday on game Day, but this week they have the
pineapple upside down cake donut, which I had on uh
no kid on Thursday.

Speaker 5 (13:58):
Yeah. No, we swung by the Williamson one. My wife
and I. Oh she had a wife show. So you
had to actually eat it? No Jo.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, she saw me eat it. She
knew I was. She bought the donut for me. Yeah,
she saw me eat it.

Speaker 5 (14:11):
Yeah, she's big and sure just one goes down.

Speaker 4 (14:14):
But I'm telling you, I looked at it. I said,
you know, it looked enticing. I didn't know about it.
And it's just amazing how well they do everything because
on its face like, that's not the donut I would
necessarily choose. It's now one of my favorite donuts. I
hope they keep doing it more often. The pineapple upside
down cake donut available this weekend at Groovy Donuts seven
am to one pm Thursday through Sunday, Lake Lanting Road

(14:35):
and East Lansing and also Williamson. So if you're around,
if you can make it part of your weekend, make
it part of your tailgate. If you're coming in early
for a tailgate, you know they're still open. You're coming
in from the East Side, swing by the Williamston one
right to go to East Lancing's open. It's just make
it part of your weekend, your college football, your tailgate.
It just it improve your tailgate, It improve your weekend,
ring joy to your life, including the pineapple upside down

(14:58):
cake Groovy Don't. You can also order ahead a time,
which I would recommend if you're doing a big tailgate
thing at Groovy Donuts dot com.

Speaker 5 (15:04):
I just like that she said last tailgate was subway,
Like what recommendation like anything? I don't know.

Speaker 4 (15:10):
Yeah, I mean, Jesus, get get yourself gasboy. Gas stations
where they have those things that like roll around on
the you know, you know, the on the little rollers
when you go into a gas station. You know, you
get some of that for hot dogs. Hot dogs it's yeah,
it's more of the stuff with the cheese in it
that I sometimes, you know.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
Ship your pants during the game. I got an iron stomach.
I'm okay. Uh Pablo bazook it to the head. Who
lands the first massive deal for Spartan Stadium's naming rights?
Auto owners came to mind being local General, General motors?
Or will it be a bank? It will it'll be
a bank. It's always a bank. Dumb, what would you choose?

(15:50):
That could just be fun? And from Richard Kine, how
much do you think show contribute contributors would contribute to
a GoFundMe to get m s U to call it
couch in the roof field that's Arden Stadium? About seven bucks?

Speaker 4 (16:02):
Now' kidding? You guys do a great job of supporting
our sponsors. And uh so if well.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
We know, couch says, you can't do anything with five
dollars a month.

Speaker 4 (16:11):
So it's got to be more than that. Certainly not
an LSJ subscription. If everybody gave up their ls A subscriptions,
who listens and does a deal? Now done? You guys,
could we get could we get a little a little
sign in the corner?

Speaker 5 (16:25):
Jesus? Yeah, So who will be the youre auto insurance
can't be cure? Oh no, my god, I still haven't
sent me that article by the can can't be cure.
Let's uh well, I mean, obviously Groovy Donuts would be amazing.
You know, Midtown Brewing Company, Yellows, you know, it would

(16:46):
be a good choice. Groovy Donuts would just have so
many I don't know there was a live read you
had to say the whole thing before the stadium Jesus.
But can you.

Speaker 4 (16:54):
Imagine, like just the fun you could have the fan
experience of Groovy Donuts could pull that off? What would
make I mean around here, you have to think it's
going to be it's gonna be. It doesn't have to
be a bank, but it's got to be a big corporation.
Hopefully that's Michigan based to some degree. Maybe it's Rocket Mortgage. Yeah,
it's gonna be a fight between It'll be a Rocket

(17:16):
Mortgage or you know, United Wholesale, United Wholesale and maybe
you know, I think somebody suggests on here might be
a battle of the death between the two of them
to see who gets it. It'll be something like that.
Maybe maybe GM or somebody, you know, steps up and
does it. That would be cool being right around.

Speaker 5 (17:32):
Here, Richard Kaine. If Indiana can get fifty million for
its stadium, how much can MS you get?

Speaker 4 (17:37):
I'm guessing it's in the ballpark. I mean these are
pretty new, cutting edge things. I mean that's maybe there's
more to be done there. But what does fifty mil
get you? Well, and it's it's not immediate, it's not
it's like over time and how it's paying what. But
if fifty mili can in your athletic department, it can
save programs that can boost you know, your your funds.

(17:59):
I mean every year you've got to make sure you
have enough not just to fund your athletic program, but
to pay athletes twenty million. And that's an annual you know,
obligation to compete at the level they want to compete
at fifteen million of that going to football. So I
think you got to do it. At this point Spartan stadium.
People can still call it Spartan State if they want to,
but at this point it's almost negligent not to seek
this out. I mean, Alan Haller talked about it at

(18:22):
least a year ago, maybe two years ago, about the
idea that this was coming down the pike. I think
when you look at you know, Jay Batt's track record,
I would be very surprised if he's not working to
get them the best deal for things like this, and
not everybody's gonna love it. But if you want to
win today and you want to have every program you have,
I think you got to do it.

Speaker 3 (18:40):
Pound the boshes, Pablo.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Anticipation is at is building immensely. Fans are ready for
football again. What would both of you have to see
in MSU's first three games to believe the Spartans can
significantly exceed expectations this year? What do you need to see? Well,
like we always say, just this team can't get pushed
around in those first three games. They control those three games,

(19:04):
and obviously they have to win those three games. But
like we always say, just can't get pushed around. How
do they look offensively? Can't look in upt? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (19:12):
Can they make things look easy at times? Against Western
Michigan and obviously Young Sound State's different. Young Sound State
gave up like seventy three points to pit last year,
sixty three to South Dakota State, Like that should be
a blow up, but.

Speaker 5 (19:21):
The first the first two. But blowouts, you can still
take something from a blowout to a degree.

Speaker 4 (19:27):
I think the second game against Boston College, which I
think a lot of people are sort of writing off,
is a is a likely win. And Austin College is
not bad. They're little, you know, they got some some
playmakers on offense, they've got you know, good good coaching staff,
they've got they've got I think that could be a
So that's a game where what you want to see
is upfront, them hold their own. Can they protect Aidan Chiles?

(19:49):
And is he you know, we hear all about the
improvements he made and the decisions better decisions and all
this stuff, and he's still got to be a playmaker? Like,
is is that noticeable? That's real quick? And then the
wide outs are they? Are they difference makers? And then defensively,
you know, I don't think it's going to be a
dynamic pass rush, but collectively, is a defense is it

(20:11):
some you know, is it a defense that can get
to the quarterback timely? Is it a defense that you
know doesn't have any clear holes, that doesn't get gashed?
I mean, are they you sort of know it when
you see it? And I think the Boston College game
will be more telling. I think by the end of
the fourth game, the USC game will have a pretty
good feel for this team.

Speaker 5 (20:31):
Alex Mayer scale of one to ten. How concerned should
fans be about the place kicking situation? Will it end
up impacting the over under?

Speaker 4 (20:40):
I think until you see somebody make a field goal
and make field goals consistently, make extra points consistently, I
think it's a concern. Like I had, I did just
filed my season predictions column, which is why I was racial.

Speaker 5 (20:55):
Why didn't you say so that's an important column? Absolutely right,
I didn't know what it was about it. He said that.
That's mean.

Speaker 4 (21:01):
Dam had to be in for a print out anyway.
But in that one of the predictions was they they
they had a pick six that would have tied the game,
and they missed an extra point. So so some of
it's a little tongue in cheek and some of it's
not really. I think people will enjoy it, No, I
definitely it's not a bummer for people.

Speaker 5 (21:18):
People.

Speaker 4 (21:18):
I think if the season I predict in that column
unfolds that way, people will be people will leave the
season I think feeling pretty good about things.

Speaker 5 (21:26):
Now that's a tease. Yeah, that's that's what I would say. Yeah,
Ken Chew, When was the last time MSU football didn't
have Ohio State on the schedule?

Speaker 4 (21:35):
Uh, twenty thirteen, right when they played them in the
Big Ten championship game, Because that was then they weren't
on the schedule. I mean that was when it was
Leaders and Legends right at the end of that as
soon as they were in the same division. So so
really there's legends. Yeah, so this is yeah, this is
the first time since you know, twelve years since they
weren't actually on the schedule and they played them that year.

Speaker 5 (21:55):
Obviously, Leaders Legends Alex mayor Aiden Chiles is plus three thousand.
It's thirty to one to lead the Big Ten in
passing yards worth a sprinkle, I think.

Speaker 4 (22:06):
So if you find that number somewhere on the fire keepers,
I because you know, in sportsbook or anywhere. I it's
not if you've seen my golf bets, I can sprinkle
on that. Yeah, yeah, no problem, because I do think Childs.
First of all, the strength of mshu's team right is
probably its wide outs. It's a defense that I don't
think is going to shut people out. I think they're

(22:26):
going to be in games against competitive teams where they've
got to score points. I think some of that's I
think a lot of that's going to be on Childs.
I think they've got guys who can catch and runaways too,
So I I yeah, I mean I don't. I actually really,
if you find that number, I would I would urge
people to jump on it. Obviously I cover the team.
I will not be jumping on it myself, but I would.

(22:47):
I would tell people that is a that is a
that is a lot of value. Tell me a place
that bet for you. I will not know a blink
twice no, thank you, no, no, no, I can't blink. Yeah,
I'm sorry. That was not a blink. That was not
a blink.

Speaker 5 (22:58):
It's got you rapid fire over under for both of
you can revisit in December eight and Child's passing yards
over under twenty nine hundred. I want to just do
these one by Oh yeah, Well, now, if we're gonna
sprinkle on that, you gotta go over right, because he's
gonna have to get the is he gonna have to.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Get He's still thirty to one. There's value in that.
Do you think he gets there? The question is you're adding,
you're averaging about and we're talking regular season here. We're
not talking any bowl game or anything like that. So
you're talking twelve games and you got to stay healthy
and all that. All that jazz, hold on. Let me
do some math here.

Speaker 5 (23:34):
N carry the four.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, I mean, I that's tough. Twenty nine hundred a
big number, but two hundred and forty yards on average game,
that feels like a lot. I think it's gonna be
the strength of them.

Speaker 5 (23:50):
You know.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
The real thing, too, is for that to happen, you
need a few games where you hit the three hundred
number you're on there, and you need not to be
taken out too early and blowout to like you play
Youngstown State and it's over a halftime and the backups
in and you wound up with one hundred and four yards.
That stuff hurts. I think there's a chance he gets
over there, but I would it's just until I see it.

(24:12):
I would probably take the under.

Speaker 5 (24:14):
All right, Aiden Childs rushing yards over under four hundred.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
The thing is in college in the NFL, you take
the over. In college football, the sacks kind of against you.
Oh yeah, So I'd probably go under.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
Nick marsh receiving yards nine hundred over under. Think I'll
have a big year.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
They have a lot of guys not to take the over,
well you take the old child's Yeah again, if I'm
sprinkling on the thirty to one though, I'm just saying, okay,
Nick marsh has to be involved in that.

Speaker 5 (24:41):
If you believe that.

Speaker 4 (24:42):
Seventy five yards game, Yeah, I'd go over on this.
I would go over, yep.

Speaker 5 (24:44):
I mean it depends on the number I'm getting, right,
Amari Kelly receiving yards seven hundred over under.

Speaker 4 (24:50):
I would probably go over on this too, because I
think those two are real pairing, and I think I
think Kelly is going to be I think Kelly's the
guy who's from day one. The name keeps popping up
and they're not hiding from it. They think he and
Marsha a real duo.

Speaker 5 (25:05):
All right, Scott, You how long until the Big Ten
mandates scheduling that the SEC says must be in place
by next season nine conferences conference games and one non
conference against a Power four team, or does Indiana strong
arm them and do an FCS only non conference.

Speaker 4 (25:24):
Yeah? So I like what the SEC is doing. It's
not like it took them too long to get here.
But in other words, the SEC you have to build,
you have to play one power conference foe in the
non conference, and they're going to nine games. Like it's
everything that I've wanted, other than the requirement of at
least five road games. It's that's pretty good stuff, though
you're gonna wind up with a lot. I think I

(25:45):
like what the SEC is doing here. I hope the
Big Ten gets there. I think the Big Ten should
get there. And I think is Indiana continues to schedule
Hillsdale and Albion and the Detroit YMCA, you know, and
embarrasses the league by doing so. And it's not that
other people and have embarrassed the league. If you play
home games, ever, you're embarrassing yourself in the league. If
you if you don't play a power conference team, you're

(26:07):
embarrassing yourself in the league. But I'd like to see
everybody get here. And I think if the SEC does
something like this, the Big ten should react. Now, the
MSU does this every year, it's been I've never covered MSU.
I don't believe when they haven't played a power at
least one non conference power conference team. So MSU was

(26:28):
already there. They already played nine and the non conference,
but I think it would be smart to require that.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Scott you next. Will we ever get the video footage
of Jason's reaction to Sean Windsor's quote from Wednesday's show? Also,
it has to become a drop on the show. Oh, sir,
we got you. That's the taint. Yeah, it's tough working
on that one because he kind of mashed words together.
That's the taint. Nah, that's the thing He's meant to say,
that's the tape. But it's like, that's the tape, that's

(26:57):
the taint. The you.

Speaker 4 (27:00):
You always turned the camera after in interviews, until we
missed those moments you turn the care us one.

Speaker 5 (27:04):
Moment where one of the guests that fucking taint. The
other ones are fifteen minutes of me while you guys
sixty nine and I'm trying to do other things or whatever,
and I might pick my nose. I just figured if
I'm off the camera, I mean, who wants to see
me to sit there? I mean, yeah, for that interview,
it would have been great to see my reaction because
I was laughing my dick off, but like, yeah, there's
no sorry, I mean I just figure if I take
myself off, I guess I could leave myself if you

(27:25):
want to watch me.

Speaker 4 (27:26):
What I wish we had. What I wish we had
was not that. What I wish we had was like
a backup camera that was just recording things in case
we wanted to go to it, you know what I mean?
That would be awesome, like so in that rare circumstance. Oh, okay,
a couple times a month.

Speaker 5 (27:39):
That so we need a whole staff you mean, yeah,
oh do that great sparty, Barb Graham. I enjoyed your
reading your interview with Jonathan Smith. If you could have
a deep dive interview with one other member of his
coaching staff, who would it be? And why?

Speaker 4 (27:56):
Oh, I think it's it's Courtney Hawkins. I mean, there
are a few guys that I think would be good stories,
and I probably need to look would have to look
deeper in the stories ahead of time to see if
I'm just missing somebody would make a better story. But Hawkins,
if you could get real, you know, he's a guy
who's you know, obviously went to Michigan say coach under
Mel Tucker and was part of that transition and his

(28:20):
you know, lived multiple staffs and now here. If you
could get him to really open up to you about
everything he thinks about everything, I think that would be
a great great Sorry now that's that's hard to do
and guys are careful on that stuff. But mc cordy
Hawkins to me is has just the most most experiences
of anybody on that staff at MSU right now.

Speaker 5 (28:40):
Psy next Graham, nice piece on Jonathan Smith. How would
you describe your sourcing with the new staff you feel
plugged in? Also, did you seriously think you were being
insightful when you said a dead player is remembered more
fondly than a player who leaves.

Speaker 4 (28:57):
You said that, I didn't lest I was waiting for
the bit to drop. Well, it's like Diego Jatta from Liverpool.
He dies and and and so. But you know, Trent
Alexander goes to you know, uh, to Real Madrid and
people hate him and it's like you just you know,
if if you want to be loved forever, it's really hard.
You can't ever get out of even if your contract's up,
you can't leave, you can't transfer. Trey Holloman, you know,

(29:20):
wants to do something else. He can't go you just
you can't. But you know, if somebody dies, they they're
they're beloved. So that that was my point. It's I
don't know if it was insightful. It was not insightful,
very little of what I say.

Speaker 5 (29:30):
And it's because they're young. I mean it's kind of right, yeah,
young like that Jesus.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
Yeah, no I'm not. Yeah, yeah it's not.

Speaker 5 (29:37):
It wasn't. But if you live to your like seventy five,
become a trumper and everybody's like, ah fuck this guy, right,
what do you which? One?

Speaker 4 (29:45):
So the question was, how would I describe my sourcing
with the new staff?

Speaker 5 (29:49):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Yeah, yeah, I mean it's it's not like what it
was with Peak D'Antonio. Certainly, it's something you continue to
work on. You you're all you know, the new group,
you're your can spots. They're a pretty tight group too,
and and and we have access to them differently than
we maybe have some other staffs. And so yeah, I
would I wouldn't say it. You know, it's something you
continue to work on as a and and it's not

(30:12):
even in a way to like you just want to
make sure you're covered on things right. You want to
make sure and you want to make sure you're informed,
and it's not. So everything is, uh, you know, this
sort of breaking news and that. So when I come
on here, you know I'm not dealing with the only
conversations aren't like press conferences. You know, you have a
better sense of what's going on and so uh. You know,
I certainly better source than I was a year ago.

(30:33):
And you you just keep working on it.

Speaker 5 (30:36):
That's the taint. What do you use their name? Lately,
it feels like there is an optimism around the football team.
Why the players haven't changed since spring practice when the
team needed the rich guys to be buying players, they
were busy sticking their nose into the administration getting the
ad fired. MSU needs to fire it's rich guys. I

(30:57):
don't know if that's no. You can't fire rich guys.
Need more rich guys. You meant to say more higher,
more rich guys. Yeah, it's bringing more rich guys in right. Well,
what they really need to do is, you know, have
people marry rich guys. So like Larry Ellison, who's given,
you know, supposedly behind a lot of the money at

(31:20):
University of Michigan, at least helping with an I l
and other things who didn't go there, right, but he was.
His wife is a big fan, Like, so that's what
you just go there? Yeah, she must have had so
like that's what you you need, Like you got it
because he's got more money. Like he's got he's like
twenty times Ishbia, you know, like Ishbia doesn't have, you know,

(31:43):
he's like twenty times. A lot of these guys forty
times some of them. We should tell Ishbia that, dude,
they got Allison. He's like twenty of you, dude. I mean,
I don't want to say anything.

Speaker 4 (31:50):
I mean, if you your game, if you're a if
you're a yeah, if you if you were a it
could be man or a woman. Frankly, if you are
a way to cover your base, thank you. If you
are in like your mid twenties, your years where you're
at your best looking and you're fit, and you're you know,
you're really good looking, and you are a giant MSU
fan and you want to do your part for your life,

(32:12):
what you really need to do is go cozy up
to some very very wealthy person who's looking for a
spouse and make that happen. And then are you telling
women to be gold diggers telling ride, I'm telling men
to be gold diggers to find women same way. It
doesn't work that.

Speaker 5 (32:29):
Way though it could. No, it means you have to
find billionaire rich chicks. It's not like where are they at?
They're out there? Why I want thing?

Speaker 4 (32:37):
I know, but I mean they're like what Martha Stewart like,
where's the other ones? They're Ronda Striker, I mean Bill
Johnson marries Ronda Striker. Ronda Striker, I mean I know
who she is, but tell the audience who she is.
Striker medical. You know, like if you've been in a
hospital bed, you've laid on a bed that was created
by her family. And Bill Johnson was a superintendent or
a principal or something like that and married and like

(32:58):
you can, you can marry smart and like with Ellison,
he's a lot old.

Speaker 5 (33:02):
I mean you can.

Speaker 4 (33:03):
If you know you're a twenty eight year old dude,
you marry a seventy five year old woman, you can
help msusnil. That's all I'm saying. We might fix that
money bag.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
Jonathan Smith gave you a nice quote about being able
to feel the arrogance of Michigan on a scale of
one to ten. How much. Do you think he gets
it now, I'm not talking about Michigan.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yeah, he doesn't have the feel like I was talking
to D'Antonio about this last week and he he just said,
you know what really helped him was he was there
with Nick Saban and then Bobby Williams for years. I
he had like six years where he was around it.
And I don't think one year gets you there, but
it was a pretty strong experience that they had, you know,

(33:45):
I mean, you go down there, the game starts well,
goes poorly, winds up with a scuffle. Like I think
they felt about all of what you can feel in
a one year, one year deal there. I so, my
guess felt all of fred human I would guess he's
at a six or a seven. He probably has a
pretty and in that he's lived, you know, the years
or a seven.

Speaker 5 (34:03):
Well, how do we tweak his nipples and get this
ship going? What do you mean how you just got
like a tent? You got to keep living it, man,
That's all there is.

Speaker 1 (34:09):
Really.

Speaker 5 (34:09):
Do we have to show him picture of like Harbaugh
or something like what it gets them going? You're fired
up about it? Yeah? Him about Bow and what happened
with that, I mean, what six or seven? Money back
asking again? Now there we're a week out. If you've
ever if you've seen or heard anything that makes you
think the pass rush could be serviceable this year? Not really?

Speaker 4 (34:30):
Yeah, I mean I don't have I wouldn't predict that
to be a strength.

Speaker 5 (34:34):
You know. Do I think they are going to be
pretty okay on the interior line? Yes?

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Do I think? And can that make a difference. I
think they'll be good at linebacker, yep. Do I think
Joe Rossi is a good coordinator, yep? So there are
there are reasons to think they'll figure something out, you know,
schematically and with you know, maybe a decent push up front.
But I like, there's nobody on the edge that jumps
at you and you go, okay, that's so bety over.

Speaker 5 (34:58):
When Michigan State plays after their non conference schedule.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
Yeah, I'm curious to see it because I don't know
how coy they're being. Maybe there's somebody that's you know,
we didn't know Kenny Willicks before Kenny Willickus showed Helly
all of a sudden.

Speaker 5 (35:11):
He shout out Kenny Willikes signing with the Steelers. I
talked to him shout out Kenny. You talked to him. Yeah,
I congratulated him. It's my addic bro dude when I
find out news. Unfortunately, people have to send me news
about Kenny getting that signing because Twitter blows. But yeah,
shout out Kenny. Money Bag, how bad were my Monday takes?
To be snub from the show? Thought one of them

(35:33):
was worth a mention? I don't we got to all
of them, money I wanted to read them. Graham said,
money Bag, we're cutting those. Yeah. So if I missed him,
I apologize. We did.

Speaker 4 (35:42):
I knew we were under it, so I was. I
was definitely condensing him, but I tried to get some
of everybody delete.

Speaker 5 (35:50):
David David Jackson. If MSU's quarterbacking is what we hope for,
wouldn't that in and of itself mean that there's enough
improvement to make six and six the floor. So if
you believe in childs as I do, and we'll take
a leap of faith that he'll be healthy, why not
mortgage the house and take the over on total wins?

Speaker 4 (36:12):
Well, first of all, I would never mortgage your own house.
If you've got a family member, a mother, you know,
whatever it is, mortgage their house, somebody. Somebody could live
with you if they really needed. If you made a
mistake of someone, they're out of your life forever. It
doesn't matter, right, right, the better way to do it. So,
but I do think the over five and a half
is a good play that the challenges I was going
through the schedule today is there there are a number

(36:33):
of games you know, I don't want to do that
could go either way. But what I mean is there
are a number of teams that are you know, it's
just hard to know how good they're going to be.
And they're all projected to be like seven and a
half win teams. So that's that's Those are pretty good teams,
some of them on the road. And there are different
spots where like ms US some teams in some good spots.
They play Iowa. Iowa has just a give me, give

(36:56):
me one second, hold, I want to pull this up here. Absolutely,
I mean, fucking everybody masterfize. So when they play Iowa,
Michigan State's playing Penn State the week before home, then
it's at Iowa, and that doesn't look like a great spot.
But you know, Iowa has plays at USC a week earlier.

(37:16):
The week before that host Oregon and the six days
after the Michigan State game plays at Nebraska. So I
was in a real tough spot Penn State when when
they you know, Penn State may just have too much talent,
but Michigan State's played well against Penn State at home
throughout the years. When Penn State comes to m SUMSHU
is coming off of buye and Penn State's coming off

(37:37):
a game against Indiana week earlier. Follow in the week
before that was at Ohio State, right the very different place,
you know. So there are moments where you think in
u c LA, for example, UCLA has a you know,
real nasty situation where it's at a nine am start
for them coming off a game against Penn State. So

(37:58):
like Michigan State has some I think the schedule sets
up better for them than some of their opponents in
terms of who they get and win and how. And
so I do like the over for MSU, I think
because I think they'll get to six. I think they
likely get to six or seven if things play out
as I think.

Speaker 5 (38:14):
Next one from David with a Bazuka to the head
in twenty twenty eight, will schoolball be in a tiger uniform.
If we all vowed to eat Little Caesar's pizza every
week during the entire term of Schoobol's new contract and
could sign a binding contract to do so, would that
convince Ilich to pay the man? Yeah? You have to

(38:34):
elaborate on all, like we all like who is all?
Was the question? Everybody? Then yes you should do it.
How binding is the contract? You know? Yeah? I mean
I would do it without I mean pretty much do
it anyway, right right? Right? I mean I still eat
Little Caesar's pizza. Yeah, it's not I didn't throw that
thread out if we didn't re sign school. I mean,

(38:56):
it's hard to deny those breadsticks.

Speaker 4 (38:57):
I mean, so if you had to look Buzuka had
twenty twenty eight. Is Schooble in a Tiger uniform?

Speaker 5 (39:02):
No?

Speaker 4 (39:03):
Yeah, same, I just I think it's very unlikely. Preparing
myself for it correct incredibly pleasant surprise if it happens,
but not thinking it's going to uh bibby.

Speaker 5 (39:12):
At what point in MSU is recruiting do you call
for concern and becoming Big ten champion caliber? Again, this
isn't Mark d'antonio's Big ten anymore. With only Ohio State
as a threat. I don't think anyone can envision Jonathan
Smith winning eight or nine games with Chiles, but once
he leaves, winning ten plus feels like a stretch. You know,

(39:36):
at what point does EMSHUS recruiting call for concern? What
is their rank? What like thirty second? Right now?

Speaker 4 (39:42):
That some of that's because they have nineteen players, you know,
I think what we really have to watch as much
as the recruiting, and some of this goes hand in hand,
is how they allocate revs share. Are they able to
get above the revshare? Like there is this a school
that eventually isn't just spenning fifteen million on football salaries,

(40:03):
but is able to get to annually twenty five and
have some advantages. I think that's that's if they don't
get there, if they're just playing with what everybody else
is playing. And I think you can be savvy, you
can be smart, you can make good decisions, but it
is really hard to be a perennial contender if you've
just got what everybody else in the Power Forward and
the Big ten has, Like so it is a different

(40:25):
Big Ten, and I think the expectation should be I
thought Haller laid that out pretty well at one point
where he said the expectation should be, you know, top
third of the Big ten pretty annually, like that's where
you want to be living top six and because if
you're doing that, you can be in the playoff on
a lot. But yeah, I think follow the money on this,
follow you know right now, the way it is their

(40:48):
priority is a lot more in retention and paying transfers
than it is going after big high school recruits financially.
And you know, maybe that mold can work for MSU,
but I don't know that it can. I in another way,
I can't ask answer your questions what I'm basically saying here.

Speaker 5 (41:07):
I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (41:08):
It's not a concern to me yet because it's early
enough and all this is new enough. But if you know,
three years from now, they're playing in a bucket and
a sandbox, that's you know, with Purdue and and a
few other teams, and they're you know, and the top
of the Big ten has got an extra ten to
twelve million its disposal every year for its roster. That's

(41:29):
just not going to work.

Speaker 5 (41:31):
Dean McConnell, how significant will the incoming freshman class be
for MSU?

Speaker 4 (41:35):
Football this year. Yeah, it's hard to say, you know,
like you I don't know. Yeah, I mean there are
a few names you'd hear once in a while, and
there's a guy like Jase Clarizio, you know, actually become
the guy or play a role, and it's just it's
it's it's really hard to know. I do think one

(41:58):
thing that'll be interesting, and Jonathan's be talked about this
this week, is they want young guys who they think
might play to see time early. And so if they
do get thrown in and they do it, and that
might mean even burning some Red shirts in that sense.
But so I'll be curious to see how they you know,
how they allot you know, freshmen who they think might
have a chance to see the field, do they actually

(42:18):
do they actually get out there. There are some guys
that you know, Derek Simmons is a guy that's name
popped a lot on the defensive line throughout throughout camp,
So I might guess is he'll play a role.

Speaker 5 (42:29):
You know.

Speaker 4 (42:29):
Obviously I mentioned Clarizio was in that in that battle
at receiver. You know, they like Bradlen Collier and so
those are guys I think we'll see the field and
have have roles, but you know to what degree? I
don't know, Chuck Fish.

Speaker 5 (42:45):
Next, Well, MSU designed the offensive scheme around the advantage
they should have in the passing game.

Speaker 4 (42:53):
You know, play, there'd be morons not to play to
their advantages, to play to their strengths, you know.

Speaker 5 (42:57):
I mean.

Speaker 4 (42:59):
They want to be a balanced offense, they want to
be somewhat of a pro style offense. They want to
be able to run the football, and they need to.
But they're difference makers at least as we think right now?
Are are those whiteouts? And potentially a quarterback JB.

Speaker 5 (43:12):
Next, this is for both of you. MSU football cheat code.
If you could give the Spartans one cheat code to
use this season, which would it be a a completely
healthy roster all year? B stops on every third down?
See your kicker never misses or d Tucker's lawsuit magically disappears.

Speaker 4 (43:32):
Oh it's it's B by a mile. If you got
to stop on every third down all season?

Speaker 5 (43:38):
Yeah, I don't. We don't have enough for all of that.

Speaker 4 (43:40):
I mean, that's pretty much the answer. Yeah, how many
games are you losing? Not many?

Speaker 5 (43:44):
That's it. I would want that, damn if I could
get that for the Lions.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
Yeah, always smokes, you're winning the Super Bowl if the
Lions do that without question.

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Who doesn't win a Super Bowl with that? Yeah? No,
we can get a stop on every single third down.
That's it, right, Spartan eighteen seven seven zero. If MSU
goes six and six with vast improvements in all groups,
well that satisfy MSU's fan base.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
You say vast improvements, like if so, if that improvement
is obvious, like I'll give you an example. I think
the Michigan game is a game that there are no
feel good even if if you don't win, you gotta
win that game, or if people feel awful. And if
they beat Michigan and go six and six, and they
like but against Penn State, Penn State may be the
best team in the country.

Speaker 5 (44:26):
Maybe not.

Speaker 4 (44:27):
But if they go toe to toe with Penn State
and they've already beaten Michigan SA and they're already Bowl eligible,
although they're already Bowl eligible, they would they would have
six wins going into Maryland, who I think they'll beat.
But if they go toe to toe with Penn State
and lose a competitive game at Spartan Stadium, people aren't
gonna People might be disappointed in the moment, but they're
not gonna be upset. All right, Yeah, I'm good. Sorry, So, yeah,

(44:51):
I think it's possible. I think more likely you'd have
to get the seven to make that those two things coincide.

Speaker 5 (44:57):
Ah, Spartan, eighteen seven to seven zero? Who has a
better year? Ms you use O line or the D line?
I mean, I hate gotta be O line. Yeah you
said the D liner, I mean the interior D line.
Maybe alright, but yeah, I think the old line. Is it?
All right? Spartan, MSU football is getting a series. How

(45:17):
about we get a day in the life of the
social influencer Graham Couch on Game Day Saturday.

Speaker 4 (45:23):
M the AMA is getting a YouTube series. I don't
think you want that because the first a go pro
on you. Yeah, the first four hours of me on
a treadmill watching soccer. I don't have to start there.
But it's not even at the stadium. Oh, just want
to get the stadium.

Speaker 5 (45:36):
Yeah, dude, we don't want to see you like as
soon as you get I mean, actually i'd watched that
rolling in an hour before I got to say. Check
what I just said. Yeah, I watched all of that.
You've watched the first part too? Oh god, yeah, yeah, absolutely,
how could he not? I don't know. I mean, might
have to fast forward here and there, well, I mean
fast forwarding. I mean it doesn't have to be every minute.
I mean we have to edit the thing together. But yeah,

(45:57):
from start till you wake up, till you get home.
Couch doesn't want Couch doesn't want that.

Speaker 4 (46:04):
All the swearing, all the moments that, all the crumbs
on my shirt, all the I don't.

Speaker 5 (46:10):
Know people that came up to you, come up to
you during the game. I would enjoy that before I
know what I'm saying, Like you getting all that me
in the line for as much as a GoPro we
slap one to me in the line for a melting
moments and a fifty to fifty raffle ticket, one of
those pleas. It'd be like a cop it all of
a sudden turns off at one point where you're doing
nasty shit hammering three ice cream cookie sandwiches. Oh yeah,

(46:31):
go ahead to turn it off. Alan Pearlstein, what's the
over under for kickoff temperature at Kinnick Stadium on November
twenty second? Assume a big noon start. If you get
noon ey the over under. I mean it gets warmer
these days. Like I would say, remember thirty thirty eight.

Speaker 4 (46:46):
Degrees at noon, I would say maybe thirty eight degrees
November twenty second, I'd say that's the over under.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
Yeah, Skeeter Barnes of Southern Maine. Next, did you see
Dave Portnoy's response to the Michigan find the NC double
A is the one that should feel shame getting humiliated
by a Michigan super fan. And note from Monday's take.
Jolan Zoo is a Michigan graduate and football super fan.
At age thirty two, she married eighty year old Larry Ellison,
the world's second richest man. He chipped in on Underwood

(47:15):
University of Illinois. Has to be a little miffed the
I see, so that's.

Speaker 4 (47:20):
What yeah talk, Okay, Yeah, Now I did some research
after this on Monday because I was a little on
Jolan Zoo. Yeah, I just need to know what little
image search The image comes up, but it's a Google search.

Speaker 5 (47:31):
Well you want to see, I mean, she's thirty two,
eighty year old rich guy married her. I'm intrigued. Yeah, yeah,
it's uh. I didn't see Dave Portnoy's response, I I
sometimes watch his pizza reviews, but I don't. I don't
watch a lot of other Portnoy like this. I love
the pizza reviews. When I had COVID, Are you jealous? Man?
When I as you to have this?

Speaker 4 (47:49):
When I had COVID in the very first time, I
really thought that pizza pizza addiction was part of this
was a symptom, because I just all I wanted. It
wasn't even a question of, like, you know, maybe we
should getizza to night. I was like, where are we
getting pizza tonight? Like that was like it had.

Speaker 5 (48:07):
You actually put your foot down when you had COVID. Yeah,
the side effect well to some degree, because I was
stuck behind a glass in our den. I was the
very first time. It was a big deal still and.

Speaker 4 (48:17):
Yeah, but I watched a lot of pizza reviews and
then and that's what I really found out later is
I don't know if it was an addiction so much
as I just watched a lot of pizza reviews when
I was stuck in that little den. And and so
I think that that seeped into the seeped into the brain.

Speaker 5 (48:32):
You were watching Portnoy's Pizza reviews. That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (48:35):
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Speaker 5 (49:13):
All right, Richard Kine, what do we think about schools
selling press conference tickets to fans like Oklahoma? And how
long until college football looks exactly like the WWE this year? Yeah?
I don't love that.

Speaker 4 (49:26):
You do see people in press boxes occasionally, like it's
not great. It just takes away the professionalism of it.
But you know they're making money and the show and
you got to put up with it. I mean it's it.

Speaker 5 (49:38):
To some degree. I don't mind anything as long as
you're able to do your job. Like to me, it's
such a lie. Well, that's true. You look around that
room and see I mean I was watching the Dan
Campbell's press conference yesterday and I saw the front row
table there, you know what I mean? Were they frustrated
with people around? You? Mean? No, no, no, I just
you know that there's those guys, the Lions Pride guys
and like you know, there's just all of the like

(50:01):
blog Lions guys.

Speaker 4 (50:02):
Yeah, but with the Michigan State guys, like there are
lots of people who aren't in this for the journalism.
They're in this because they're a fan, right, they're not.
They just wind up what they want to make.

Speaker 5 (50:11):
They would like to make money correct covering, and I'm
not saying that they don't do work, and a lot
of them.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
Work really hard to do a good job. Like it's
not like they're they're unethical, and a lot of them
take it very seriously and want to So yeah, I'm not.
I'm not infinite, So that stuff doesn't bother me. If
you had like straight fans in there, like you you
occasionally get at Michigan, you get some other places. I yeah,
it would the only you know. It's it's why I

(50:37):
like NCAA tournament games being so far away because the
fewer people allows you to do your job better. But otherwise,
as long as you're not like.

Speaker 5 (50:43):
Uh, this started off, by the way, with as long
as I can do my job, I don't care. Yeah, sorry,
that's what this started off by them. That was such
a lie. John Johnson, what exactly is a show caused penalty?

Speaker 4 (50:58):
It's basically a school has another school has to explain
why they want to hire you, right and like to
who and to the n C double a if they're
going to hire you, why you have it now? And
a lot of times that can have a secondary penalty attached.
If they do hire you, like I think Harbor will
get another year's suspension. They've had that with other guys.
So that's basically what it is. It's you gotta really

(51:18):
have to explain it, show the cause. That's what it
sounds to the n C anymore though, Well they're hiring
this guy, what do you do about it? That's one
of those that's the question. I mean, like, if you're
M s U. If you're M. S U right now
and you show up, uh this this, and you need
a running back, you're not sure about your running backs,
and you decide, you know what, let's see what Le'Veon.

(51:38):
Bell can still do. What are they gonna do? Pull
you off the field. What's the n cb A gonna do?

Speaker 5 (51:43):
They don't have a security anywhere.

Speaker 4 (51:46):
I'm just saying that's maybe maybe a bad example.

Speaker 5 (51:49):
I'm just saying. I'm just saying, is there anything you
can't do?

Speaker 4 (51:52):
Is doing poor? Not only fans with the Yeah a
good point. That fixed that post. I mean I felt
all of Fred human Ryan Rockwell.

Speaker 5 (51:59):
Next was the weekly Sunday paper subscription more than five
dollars a month in the glory days of print media.
I'm about to just grab a print copy from Meyer
each week. Since Graham doesn't want my five bucks a month,
let's make a deal couch.

Speaker 4 (52:14):
Well to get there. What can we do with five
dollars a month? Get the Monday paper. Our Sunday deadlines
are tough, so I will tell you, yeah, well, things
were cheaper generally, so five dollars a month probably was,
But no, it was more, and it was something everybody
got and it was a better world. It was a
better time.

Speaker 5 (52:30):
Yeah, rock Rockwell, next, what does MSU oe towards CMU
unless they're willing to come to East Lansing for free
and provide a w to MSU never schedule them again.

Speaker 4 (52:43):
So yeah, I mean they don't owe anything to CMU.
I just don't know if that relationship needs to be
tarnished completely. But I get it while Amy Folan's there,
while the people who are there, you know, for a
little period of time, if there's repercussions, I don't there's
nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 5 (52:59):
Yeah, But just because you fire Amy Folan doesn't mean
you're just off Scott free. I think they have to
pay some sort of retribution or something.

Speaker 4 (53:06):
So if they played the game for for free and
East Lanting, it'd be off the hot kick.

Speaker 5 (53:09):
One hundred k this way and come get your ass beat,
you know, good faith. Professor is Windsor saying taint a
top five show moment of all time, that's the taint.
I don't know. I mean with Couch, there's top ten
of couch that would you know? That doesn't the taint
thing doesn't even eclipse some ship Couch is said, So

(53:32):
I would disagree.

Speaker 4 (53:32):
It's fresh in people's brain. Yeah, it's a good moment
and it was very fun. And then it was from
windsor shut out of nowhere and that we all realized
and he corrected it. Yeah, that's that was good.

Speaker 5 (53:42):
Yeah, professor, what is the best part of your first
live college football game of the year?

Speaker 4 (53:47):
The energy of it? Man, Like, that's what doesn't get
old ever, and a lot of it doesn't. I shouldn't say,
but that stuff is fun. I mean that' stuff. That
part of the job is tremendous. Like you show up
to a stadium and and you know, and that's one
of the things I like about road stadiums too. You
just get different vibes and it's it's cool the energy.
You know, you got the band playing off and you

(54:08):
got this. It's like even the other day I was
over at MSU football for for interviews and there's a
moving day right where all the so the place is
just alive, the band is practicing like that sort of energy.
But yeah, just to see a campus on a college
football day is incredible. And then you know, I just

(54:30):
I like, I like a lot of parts of the job,
and I'm reminded of that when you get up to
a big part of it is I like covering games
and being at games and dissecting games and the emotions
of them and talking to people after them. And you're
reminded of that when you get when you get to
the first game of the.

Speaker 5 (54:45):
Year, Professor, If it costs you the next two first
round picks and you could trade for either one, which
would you choose, Michael Parsons or Trey Hendrickson? Oh my god,
it's Michael Parsons and it's not even close. Yeah, hendricks
up there in age and he wants some fat contract.
Michael Parsons like twenty six seven per He's one of

(55:05):
the best defensive players in the league and a linebacker
like that. I would kill for that, dude, And you
would trade the next two first round I can trade
them all. I don't care if we could get Micah Parsons. Yeah, absolutely, Thomas.
What's the best baseball experience you had visiting another ballpark
beyond Detroit in terms of stadium, overall, vibe, et cetera.
You had. If you had a ballpark you've been to

(55:25):
that you're like, man, this is awesome. I mean I
went to a Padres game and Forever Ago. Oh yeah,
that's a great spot. I mean that was like ninety five, So,
I mean, was that the old stadium? Okay, yeah, I
gotta say, I really haven't been to an opposing baseball stadium.
I mean I went to Fenway Ship. I went to Fenway. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
we went to Yeah yeah, Fenway was pretty sick. Yeah, sorry,

(55:46):
I forgot about Fenway. I've been to.

Speaker 4 (55:48):
I've been to a few that I've liked that aren't
even classics, like the new Milwaukee Stadium. I had a
great time with my wife where we just sat there
talking to the point that we didn't realize that a
no hitter was being thrown into the ninth inning. Oh
my god, how gross. What were you guys talking about?
It must have been good. I don't know it was.
It must have been so good. He forgot.

Speaker 5 (56:08):
That's impossible. You need to ask your wife what the
fuck you were talking about. We only really not pay
attention to a no hitter. We only realized it because
we're like, it was getting in the ninth inning. We're like, hey,
should we beat the traffic? And I was. I looked
at the scoreboard and I was like, oh my, they
haven't thrown. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (56:22):
Well, I was once at a Cubs game at Wrigley
and the Cubs pitcher gives up ah, gives up a
base hit like the seventh inning, and the home crowd
started applauding. I was like, why is everybody aplotting their
own guy? And I realized it was the first hit
of the game. Am Yeah, So, but no, I Wrigley
is probably overall the best, just because my wife for

(56:43):
three years there before we were a couple of years
before we were married, lived three blocks north of Wrigley,
and I spent a lot of time there and we
would walk down and scalp tickets, like in the second inning,
and this is right before they got great, like this
is like twenty fourteen, and the scalper's getting nervous because
it's second inning, third inning, you know, so you're gonna
get a good deal. And it was so much fun

(57:03):
because you know, and usually you're gonna come to an agreement, right,
I want to go to the game. They need to
sell the ticket. We're gonna it's not gonna be expensive,
but I need They need a decent amount of money.
But my wife was appalled by the ticket prices. She
would just assume go to a bar or go back
home and watch it because the price at a bar cheap,
right right, No, there were lots of so she but
they could see it in her. They could see that
they were going to lose the sale. And she was

(57:25):
the greatest negotiator ever seen. We got unbelievable seats, like
sometimes like five bucks better than an LSJA subscription, you know,
to sit like right behind the third baseline, second third
inning of games.

Speaker 5 (57:33):
That was a lot of fun. By the way, how
long had you guys? Were you married when you were
talking through the no hitter? I don't believe so were
you trying to? Yeah, because I'm so intrigued that what
could be so enthralling with a conversation that you don't
even know that it's a there's a no hitter going on.

Speaker 4 (57:49):
Especially my wife. It doesn't even like listening to me.
I mean usually she just hadn't know. It's crazy. That's
that's good. It must have been. I don't know what
I would have to dial in and get that that
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Speaker 5 (58:21):
Next, Tigers are going to lock up the AL Central
schooble with ten K's gambling.

Speaker 4 (58:27):
Related they look like they're gonna lock it up now.
I mean Cleveland might not even finish second. Kansas City
is sort of overtaking. Yeah, so yeah, they've they've they
have definitely you know, steadied themselves and that division blows.
But but if you look at it too, I mean,
they're beating decent teams and they're in a real race
right now to be this at least the second team

(58:49):
in the AL, which is huge. The idea that you
don't have to play that first three game series is
everything allows you to set up your pitching easily, you know,
And and I think for this team which has really
good pitching but not great depth of pitching, like you
can see where they have two or three quality relievers, right,
you can see where they have one great starter and

(59:10):
a couple of guys that you're okay. So you want
to be able to set that up perfectly and not
having to play that first series make a big difference.

Speaker 5 (59:17):
David Cox. Next, defense seems to get ignored when projecting
MSU basketball. Jeremy Fears shuts down the Braden Smith. Cohen
Carr also a great defender, will be the best player
in the conference and an All American. Kurtang is better
than Lawyer who is mid Jackson Cohler All Big eighteen.
How on earth are the Spartans not a runaway favorite?

(59:39):
This is optimistic, David, I got me hype. Yeah, so
you look, they have a chance to be up there.
But you look at the talent of some of these
other teams, like Michigan for example, you can see why
other you know why, when you're projecting a team, you
would you would you would like them. And I think
whether they have a guy enough, you know, and whether
they need that guy I don't know, but you know,
to replace you know, a couple of years ago, Tyson Walker.

(01:00:03):
Then it's and they didn't win a ton with them,
But then it's Chase Richardson. Do they have that sort
of player who's a real difference maker? And maybe they
have enough good and that's that's that's plenty. I think
they're gonna be a good team. The question we'll we'll
have to find out is is that are they going
to be? And I think they're gonna be a good
team defensively. I think they're gonna have a lot of
things going. But are they going to be next level?

(01:00:24):
And we're just not gonna know that. Travis Maynard next
there are grown men with families and four oh one
K's still playing college ball? Why shouldn't Jackson cohler petition
for a fifth year? Next season will be down to
just get Jesse at the five? Or will this be
the year we're finally forced to target a top tier
five in the portal. Something has to give.

Speaker 4 (01:00:43):
Yeah, I think they should have red shirted Jackson Cohler
that sophomore year, But there's no way when you look
at that when he came back and the games he played,
that there's they're gonna be able to find another year
for him. Unless something happens this year, then then that
would would certainly certainly be there for him. Yeah, I mean,
I think all that's to be determined. And obviously when

(01:01:06):
you're recruiting out of the portal, and there's some young
guys that are going after at the five right now too,
are freshman, and I think when you're recruiting in the portal,
obviously that's something that happens later. And I think, you
know what McCully is for them, what we'll see and
I think they'll have a better idea of, you know,
what they need. But as it stands right now, this
is going to have to be a year where they
go in there now what they need, the level of play,

(01:01:26):
the level of big man depends on freshmen. They may
land and what Jesse is so, but no question if
you look at it right now, they're going to have
to go into the portal and get a guy puppet.

Speaker 5 (01:01:36):
Next rank these is oh what ifs? And is most
likely to get him a second twenty twenty NCAA tournament
isn't canceled. Number two, the Big ten actually mattered for
seeding and MSU draws a one seed in twenty sixteen
and three Kylen Lucas doesn't get hurt in the twenty
ten ncublea tournament.

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
These are really good and hard to rank because if
Michigan State doesn't get Middle Tennessee State in twenty sixteen,
I really think that team had a shot in twenty twenty.
There were a lot of teams to sort of claim
and MS she was playing really well. I thought what
they were getting with Tillman, you could not if you
relied at all on a forward er center offensively to win.

(01:02:17):
You were going to lose to Michigan State because Tilman
had gotten to the point where you just shut you down.
But I would go in twenty ten just because we
know how weak that final four was and the player
that Kaylin Lucas was. I think if he's healthy, they
win that final four. I really do. I think number
one is twenty ten. I would put number two in

(01:02:38):
twenty sixteen, number three in twenty twenty.

Speaker 5 (01:02:42):
Fart Soup on Wednesday, Couch mentioned that ISO and the
staff were getting good vibes from this team and that
he's only been totally wrong once or twice. Which teams
would you say ISO totally misread well?

Speaker 4 (01:02:54):
The team two years ago, I think way early that
had that freshman class coming in that was you know,
Booker car and all those guys, and then had Walker
coming back, and I think he thought that group. I
don't think he knew right then. They knew Booker was
going to take some time, but they thought he'd be
further long than he was. So I think early in
the summer he misread that. But the best one of them,

(01:03:17):
the one he continues to misread, is twenty seventeen, twenty eighteen,
which you could argue is his most talented team with
Jaron Jackson and Miles Bridges and Cassius Winston and all
those guys, and yet it's the one I never questioned
was ever going to win a national title because even
though they won thirty games, you know, and I know
the Michigan matchup was bad for them that year, but

(01:03:37):
it wasn't just that they did. He did not manage
that roster all that well. And unless he had a
you know, I think he could be had to redo
and was able to do things differently, but I'm not
sure he would, like Miles Bridges should have been at
the four more, the ball should have been in Casius
Winston's hands, like that was a He just didn't get
the most out of that group, and he's still to

(01:03:59):
this day that is like one of the teams that
really probably should have won a national title. And who
knows if they don't play Syracuse and Syracuse barely got
to that game, they don't play Syracuse in that weird,
funky zone. And but I still think that team would
have had a game along the way where it just
was a little clunky. I mean, that's the way that
whole season was.

Speaker 5 (01:04:19):
No no fart soup. If Jason could call the first
play of the first game next week, what would the
play be and what would he name it? The mule
tuck fade Mars, Well, let's you protect the ball. It's
a it's a play action play where you take the ball,
you put it down by your mule because that way
nobody can see where it is. Marsh, go deep, a

(01:04:42):
little fade out, Boom, you'll mule tuck fade. There we
go on three fart soup. It discussed me to ask
civilized a civilized question. So let's take this one for
a spin. How does a Jim Jim Camperoni come to exist?
And why does Couch like to call on three writers
punk ass bitches. He also once said he'd sooner go

(01:05:04):
unprotected at Hawaii SPA, then sign up for a Spartans
Illustrated three months at twenty five dollars promo. I thought
it was a bit drastic, but he was definitely stoned,
cold sober when he said that none of this happened
for the record Spartans Illustrated charges. Yeah, well these are
they're the charge for that. They were with rivals and
now on three Yeah, that's like, it's not it's not like.

(01:05:26):
By the way, Capperoni has been around forever, even back
when I was working with Stout, Like, yeah, Caperoni would
fill in for Stout it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:05:33):
So the phrase punk ass bitches, I until that moment,
I have never used it ever. I don't think I've
used no, I know, I mean, I've used a lot
of bad words, but.

Speaker 5 (01:05:42):
From supporters you call them punk ass bitches.

Speaker 4 (01:05:44):
I've used a lot of bad words about a lot
of people, but I've never that sequence of three words.
I don't think I've ever used. And so that tells
you right now that that fartop is off. It's no
street credit for you.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
Then Ethan Charmella if next which of the four new
Big ten hoops coach will have the most success over
their tenure. Medved Devirees, McCollum or Buzz Williams. Oh, that's right,
Buzz Williams.

Speaker 4 (01:06:09):
It's a really good question. I kind of like McCollum
at Iowa Is. I like him as a coach a lot,
and I think they're going to play a different style
that that that wins. Ben McCollum, I'm talking. I think he's.

Speaker 5 (01:06:28):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (01:06:28):
I have quite a bit of faith in him as
a coach. I don't know if it's the most entertaining style,
but that would be my that would be my pick.

Speaker 5 (01:06:37):
What about Buzz? Are you excited to talk hoops with
him and not going head to head?

Speaker 4 (01:06:41):
You don't like him? I don't have any problem with him.
I just don't have any great affinity for him either.

Speaker 5 (01:06:46):
How about one more in a break, I'll tinkle Ethan
Charmela have anyone in particular lined up to talk about
Western next next week?

Speaker 4 (01:06:54):
Perfect time, and we do the great Robin Hook, who's
the play by play voice of Western. We off and
have on when they're playing Western. He's gonna come on
and join us next Wednesday and get a feel for
the Broncos and look they've gone under a lot of
It sucks to be a mid major right now. You
just lose guys like they had a running back last
year and now he's at UCF, you know, like they
It just it's tough, and I'm it's not like the

(01:07:17):
old days where you could have NFL guy like you
remember what's his name, Darius uh Now, the guy the
guy who returned all those hold on one second no
one second.

Speaker 5 (01:07:32):
Ride through the series, Greg Jennings, Well that's one.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
Oh, Darius Phillips. Darius Phillips, wh who played in the
NFL and was returned like two kicks against Michigan State
in twenty fifth fifteen and just unbelievable return. Man, that
guy doesn't stay at Western anymore. You don't like that
guy goes somebody else looks at him and goes will
take that. And and you just Greg Jennings, Tony Scheffler,
all these guys, they just you don't you don't get

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Speaker 5 (01:12:38):
That's the Corey Ostrom. Do you have a sense of
who may get the start for MSU at the Nickel
spot and some of the guys vying for that spot
that seems to be the spot with the least publicity
fuck thus far in camp.

Speaker 4 (01:12:54):
Yeah, there hasn't been a ton of talk and I
don't know if we have a I mean, I don't
have a great idea. I think Marrian Smith might be
a guy, you know, it's uh, it's really hard to say.
The other day, Malcolm Bell's name popped up from and
that was something Nick Marsh talked about, sort of unprompted
on him. Now he was asked about guys who are

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tough covers and we hadn't really heard that before and
so I, I, you know, could be a guy like that,
but specifically they have not been. They have not really
given I'm curious to see who who because it is
an important position for them. But there are a number
of options. I would say Belle is sort of interesting
that Smith would be one if I just had to
guess at it right now.

Speaker 5 (01:13:33):
Next one from Corey does urban Meyer have it right?
Should Roger Goodell suspend Harbaugh as he threatened to do
Jim Tressel but was ultimately done by the Colts. Is
it right that we haven't heard the same rhetoric from
Goodell yet when Harbaugh's crimes were much more disgraceful.

Speaker 4 (01:13:51):
No, I mean he's in the NFL, he's not in
college anymore. Whatever he did in the NCAA, that's that's
a separate entity. I you know, I have my issues.
I have my issues as Jim Harbaugh. But I haven't
heard it.

Speaker 5 (01:14:00):
But urban Meyer has the balls right to say something
like that good Dalla should suspend Harbaugh.

Speaker 4 (01:14:07):
Well, and he basically said that what happened because this
was on the field, this was an advantage that was
was clear that was different than other kinds of cheating. Yeah, no,
Urban Meyer's you know what. A lot of people feel
a lot of different ways about him too. The to me,
this is a separate league, this is a separate deal,
and you've done what you can with him. He is,
he has a he can't come back to college football
essentially with a ten year show cause.

Speaker 5 (01:14:27):
Well, you have to explain to the NCAA why you're
going to hire I think he'd have to sit out
a year or something like that too.

Speaker 4 (01:14:32):
I think he's got hire him. He's sixty one. He's
sixty one. He's not coming back. He's but yeah, I don't.
I look, it's a different job, it's a different entity.
I don't think there should be anything done to him
at the NFL.

Speaker 5 (01:14:46):
Level, neurotic pants. Will any of the sanctions at all
affect Michigan's ability to win games? Otherwise we might as
well pass the proverbial crack pipe.

Speaker 4 (01:14:55):
I don't think it'll affect them at all. And obviously
that you know, the money could be a factory to
some degree, but it won't be for football. If football
gets hit, it'll come out of you know, I mean,
but you can get away with it. Men's gymnastics is
going to struggle.

Speaker 5 (01:15:08):
Next year or something.

Speaker 4 (01:15:09):
They have men's gymnastics they do at Michigan like a
national leam.

Speaker 5 (01:15:13):
They're good. Yeah, damn, neurotic pants. Do I understand this correctly?
MSU football finished behind some MAX schools and some polls,
so that's being rewarded as MSU finishes last in the MAC.
According to these poles, ten seconds of research would have
told them that even MSU shit teams are capable of
winning the MAC.

Speaker 4 (01:15:34):
Yeah, I mean, I mean, Poles are stupid this time
of the year. And there are teams that good MAC
teams that you know, have beaten and could beat MSU
throughout the years when they aren't very good. But there's
somebody who's covered that league, by the way, when I
lived in Kalamazoo. And and the other thing is that
league is also it's lost some of its top end talent, right.
Let's it's just what it is that those players move

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up now, and so it's it's it's a league that
there's really no excuse to use to MAX schools of
your Big ten school anymore.

Speaker 5 (01:16:02):
Neurotic pants. Is it true that MSU single game hockey
tickets will only be available the day of Does this
mean out of state fans will have to drive for
hours and hopes that there are enough tickets left on
game day.

Speaker 4 (01:16:14):
Well, I think you'll be able to get the ticket, Like,
you don't have to drive up to the gate to
get them.

Speaker 5 (01:16:18):
I don't. I don't think so. It's twenty twenty five.

Speaker 4 (01:16:20):
Yeah, I don't think you have to do that. You
can know there's a ticket there for you purchased.

Speaker 5 (01:16:25):
I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:16:25):
I don't know what's going on, but I know it's
a hard ticket and they do. I think they do
hold some back for game day, but I should I
shouldn't speak out.

Speaker 5 (01:16:33):
Of a termine. It.

Speaker 4 (01:16:33):
It's just things have changed, and you know a lot
of people got in with season tickets because some people
did give up their tickets while things are really bad,
and so they're benefiting from that to some degree. But
it's a tough ticket and it was once before and
it is again.

Speaker 5 (01:16:46):
We should go back to that where you had to
go up to the gate, right, you had to go
to warehouse bat Yeah, get some concert tickets, Ralph E. Next,
I agree with you on the preseason watchless, but one
caught my eye. I'm rooting for a Marion Smith Hope
you as a good season and all is well at.

Speaker 4 (01:17:01):
Home, no doubt that is a guy's had a tough
go and yeah, that you know. And the reason I
think watch lists are dumb is because let the stories
unfold like and guys can be added to watch lists.
But it's not like only the people on the watch
list have any chance to win it. You don't have
to be on the Blittant Cough watch list to win
the Blittant Coff. You're the best receiver. It's just kind

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of a I don't know's. It's a weird thing, and
it's it's unnecessary creation of content.

Speaker 5 (01:17:26):
We're just dying for football to start, so we want
any kind of list. But what do you mean what
you read it?

Speaker 4 (01:17:33):
And you have two other receivers but not Nick marshrom
MSU on the blitt That is ridiculous. Okay, but I'll
still check it out. I'm dying for football, Ralph E.
So Infinity sent me a survey and they asked where
I heard of them. I checked the box and it
gave me a chance to say where, so I typed
in couch and the roub great segue.

Speaker 5 (01:17:50):
Eh appreciate you.

Speaker 4 (01:17:52):
Yeah, now if you're and if you're gearing up for
a college football season right now and you want to
make sure you've got the ability to see every game
you want to see, be it football, be it us open,
be it whatever. Good this is spelled wrong.

Speaker 5 (01:18:06):
I hope that this is your typo and not Ralph's,
because that would be funny if he did say, oh
I heard it on co U A C H and
the roup. Yeah, that would be that would be perfect
for our show. Have misspelled it.

Speaker 4 (01:18:17):
That would make it more authentic. People would believe it.
He must be a cotch in the room listening.

Speaker 5 (01:18:21):
Yea. I wish everybody would do that. Jay Brewt, I
tuned out a bit at the end last year, but
remember quotes about guys not wanting to play? Can you
give us a nineties show to be continued recap of
last football season? Maybe just a recap of the three
quick takes as last season progressed.

Speaker 4 (01:18:37):
You remember how that was like even like an episode
of Full House ended dramatically and all of a sudden,
it was like you're off for four months.

Speaker 5 (01:18:43):
Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I was like ninety show. Yeah,
I remember that seventies show.

Speaker 4 (01:18:48):
They did a ninety that's right, cliffhangers of every sitcom
that was the worst the if you want a recap
of last year, Yeah, it was a team that had
few intriguing players, that had a moment against Iowa and
then was pretty banged up and didn't have enough and
the Michigan game everything went to shit and after that

(01:19:10):
it was not worth following.

Speaker 5 (01:19:12):
I cover it. That was great, short and concise, mister
ben Jen, Greetings from Zagreb, Croatia. What's the best thing
that can happen to MSU in the game versus Western
in Week one besides saying win? And what's the worst
thing that can happen versus the Broncos. Yeah, they can
just look loss. Well, yeah, yeah, that would be.

Speaker 4 (01:19:33):
They can look dominant and they can look like that
and things can look smooth and click. And while that
may not translate to Boston College or USC or Nebraska
or whatever, but like it can look good. That's the
best thing that can happen is it looks promising, right,
and then you got to wait to see if it
really is anything to it. The worst thing that can
happen beyond losing is like just an injury that you go, well,
that changed, you know, you just don't want to talk

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that way, but we've seen it before. You remember the year
that they lose Darius Snow and ex Bavi or Henderson
like right off the bat, and it just changed that
defense and that really set them back like that, that's
what you want to avoid that were right away. You're
gonna have some injuries throughout the year and depth is
supposed to cover that, but when they start in week one,
it's just it's a crusher.

Speaker 5 (01:20:13):
Ben Jen, Which country have you been to that has
had the worst drivers? My first Uber driver in Zagreb
decided to take a short cut, so we went the
wrong way down a one way street through downtown and
then turn left on a red light. That sounds pretty
pretty horrible. It sounds like when I was in Vegas,
every single time that was you or the your driver.
You're the driver, yeah, I mean their Uber purse. People

(01:20:35):
in Vegas are fucking crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:20:37):
My my mom and dad used to go to China
every summer. My mom was teaching over there during the
summers and they and they were in Hardbean, which is
in the north not that far from like Russia and
and but people drove like cabs and other people they
would drive on the sidewalks to move get around people,
you'd just be dodging. I mean, it's amazing people stay alive.

Speaker 5 (01:20:55):
It is. What year was that, two and eight through fourteen?
Not that long ago, you know it was. Yeah it
was quite ah yeah, not as bad as Zagreb, Croatia,
Brian Mahoney. Next, Graham tried to discount coach Manny by
saying in a don't have voice. Oh uh. He once
said I had quick twitch, then clarified what coach said

(01:21:18):
was you had more quick titch than I quick twitch
than I thought you did. So he got one look
at Graham and had a low opinion of his athleticism.
It's about right.

Speaker 4 (01:21:27):
He was impressed. I was in better shape. I was
thirty three, sort of the end of my athletic prime.
They were all a little impressed. I you know, you
can ask any of them.

Speaker 5 (01:21:35):
Was that pre treadmill though, I like you hammer the
treadmill now? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:21:39):
I was dead barely dating Elizabeth. Yeah, no, but I
didn't need the treadmill. I was playing basketball finalits we
I was running gassers on football fields.

Speaker 5 (01:21:45):
I was in great shape. Yeah, Jay riemens Schneider, which
was more enjoyable for Michigan State fans this past basketball
season or twenty twenty one football. Both beat good Michigan teams,
and both had good postseasons and both came out of
nowhere after some pretty lackluster years.

Speaker 4 (01:22:01):
Yeah, I think it's two twenty twenty one football. I
mean this this was a really cathartic basketball season.

Speaker 5 (01:22:06):
I needed one.

Speaker 4 (01:22:06):
They need people needed to see the program play at
a higher level again, win a title again, sort of
reclaim its place. Nohizo still had it all that really important.
I'm not saying it wasn't. But when you think back
to twenty twenty one football and it didn't last. But
what people thought was beginning at that point, what they
thought they founded Mel Tucker, that whole experience after the
coming out of COVID and the win over Michigan like that,

(01:22:27):
that twenty twenty one football season, people were drunk on
on hole.

Speaker 3 (01:22:31):
I don't we don't have enough time for all of that.

Speaker 5 (01:22:35):
Oh what could have been? Jay Riemenschneider, Michigan got a
huge football recruit this week, and I happen to see
a little video of the announcement. Are these just events
to hype up the recruit or are other things happening
at these locations. Was this like an announcement? Is it
the video you saw? I mean party? Yeah, I mean
if it was just in club. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:22:52):
Sometimes they just have these homers. Yeah, it's just like
a press deal. I don't know what video you're talking about,
but if it's a lot of times they just now
us where they're going, and then I don't they're not
done to hype the recruit I mean people.

Speaker 5 (01:23:04):
I'm sure that happens. And after right there, there is plenty
of that. Next one from Jay, I'll be in Marquette
next weekend. Will I see you there.

Speaker 4 (01:23:11):
I will not be there at the the MSU game
and then we'll be but we'll be here. But I
would happily send you some recommendations if you DM me.
I like doing that with our listeners because our quet
is a place that is dear to.

Speaker 5 (01:23:22):
Be copy and paste and baby cakes.

Speaker 4 (01:23:24):
The building, the place, my favorite uh uh bakery up
there is for sale and I'm a little nervous. My
wife and I looked at the whether we could pull
it off.

Speaker 5 (01:23:33):
We cannot spartan Johnny, I'm honestly confused. If you guys
want to up your hits on various socials. Why don't
you ever have Oh, I don't know, is oh Jonathan Smith,
Jay Batt, Adam Nightingale, melt Tucker, Jeff Smoker, Max Buller,
Draymond or Cleaves on the pod. Don't give me the

(01:23:53):
conflict of interest bs with the Spartan speak.

Speaker 4 (01:23:57):
Appreciate Johnny. It has nothing to do with spartan speak.
Ays do with the stories I write, right and now
some of it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:02):
Bola would never come on. Yeah, Smoker's not going to
come on, isn't And some of these people aren't that interesting.
Tucker's not Cleves.

Speaker 4 (01:24:09):
We could have on, but you know, would be we
could have Cleaves. But can you imagine if we had
mel Tucker on Incredible? But I would I would be
fired if we had Meltucker on the show. Would See's like,
wait a second, you got an interview with melt Tucker
on your show and you didn't write that column like
that would be.

Speaker 5 (01:24:21):
Let's get fired. There's no way you'd get fired. There's
no way I would not get fired. I would get
a pretty fierce reference. Then he could write a column
about the conversation. No transcripted there.

Speaker 4 (01:24:32):
You know we could absolutely uh probably at times make
it more guests focused. That's not really the way we
wanted to do the show. And maybe it's a mistake,
you know.

Speaker 5 (01:24:41):
But if we have Jay bad On, is it going
to be I guess? But again, to have Jay.

Speaker 4 (01:24:46):
Bad On, I would have to do like at least
a one on one with him that I did a
column for the LSJ first, you know, so let's do it.

Speaker 5 (01:24:53):
You know, well I three fifteen call him up. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:24:57):
So, but we could absolutely up our game in that
we we don't need like we're happy with our listenership,
but we we do want to improve it for you
at all times, and.

Speaker 5 (01:25:05):
We're happy with our guest lineup. Yes, that's true. Yeah,
Like what do you guys dropping taint? You know the odds?

Speaker 4 (01:25:11):
I was going to use the word, well, actually he
might accidentally. He wouldn't know what he was saying.

Speaker 5 (01:25:15):
But he's bulling a China closet. Yeah, actually so probably would.
He'll just come on the American way, except America has
gotten soft. Fuck dude, Tom is O rules Spartan, Johnny,
why did you banish James Edwards from coming on consistently
simply because he moved to NYC? Dude? Might not cover
local anymore, but he's an intelligent Spartan fan and a

(01:25:36):
friend of the pod. But being a wanker, Graham monthly
check ins with James is a good thing.

Speaker 4 (01:25:42):
We'll have James on as the NBA season starts again.
I like hiving James. I miss James. James is great.
Uh but yeah, he does cover the New York Knicks now,
so I mean that's you know, but yeah, I love
I love having James on because James is a massive
ms U fan too, and he's also Yeah, but you.

Speaker 5 (01:25:58):
Spend the first five minutes like like trying to get
a compliment about your basketball game. You know, that's true.
So that's like the first five minutes. But that's on me.
That's because I suck, That's what I mean. So yeah,
we can just get past that, Like, oh, Graham's good
at basketball, Okay, James, how's everything going, Spartan Johnny. I
don't get why fans and the lums want to skip
the Central Michigan football game. F that I want to

(01:26:19):
kick their ass. Why wouldn't we want to go play
them and kick their ass? Jason Pleice cue the cheery
noises you usually play after Harry says gud A wa
by by Jered Goff for full effect. Well, I don't
know what you're talking about, ya, Gita Jared Goff, we
have applause. I didn't know I had a play. I've

(01:26:40):
missed that. Yeah, he's got a stupid look. All right.

Speaker 4 (01:26:45):
To the question, Uh, you don't get why fans want
to skip the Center Michigan game. And I understand there
are people feel a lot of different ways. I've gotten
many emails about this. A lot of people. Some people
just don't care, but there are a lot of people
would like to keep playing Central and make it more personal.
And so I get that emotion too.

Speaker 5 (01:27:03):
Ah, Scotty Green, okay Couch. Scotty Green's al Chemino, Okay Couch.
If you had to choose, who do you push down
the stairs, Hondo Stout, Eblin or Paul fine Bomb.

Speaker 4 (01:27:15):
Now, this is a hypothetical and this is not something
I desire to do. I just want to say that
for the record, isn't fine Bomb gay? This would probably
be him. No, it would be fine Bomb. Nothing to
do with Gay, but it would be fine Bomb. If
I had to, like if Bazooka to the head, you
have to push one of these people down the stairs
or the Bazuka goes off.

Speaker 5 (01:27:32):
All right, it would be fine. Let's ask this. Yeah,
everybody survives, yes, like there's no major injuries. It would
be the funniest out of those to watch them fall
down the stairs. It's gotta be Hondo, especially if he's
wearing that outfit with you and you in Rex Road.
He's wearing that old farmer outfit or whatever that got
the eye patch. Yeah, I mean, come on, Hondo falling downstairs. Yeah,

(01:27:55):
Stout would be sad. Eblin would be sad. Fine, Bomb
would be kind of funny. I go find them. Scotty
Green Rube. Who's weirder couch or Harbaugh? Oh it's couch
by a mile. Really, it's not even close. Wait a second,
what Yeah, Jim Harbaugh, Yeah, you're beyond weird. Yeah, Jim
Harbaugh is just a football geek nerd guy. He's just

(01:28:16):
a little's special. Harbaugh's special couch.

Speaker 4 (01:28:19):
Is just straight weird. I don't mind me, you do shit,
that's just absolutely weird. I don't think it's that weird.

Speaker 5 (01:28:24):
I don't mind it. Just answer the question. Tim tim
couches picks for season overs MSU Lions and Denver. Three
teams he's a fan of. He's never dodging these, he's
still a fan of. Allegations you make it tough.

Speaker 4 (01:28:39):
Yeah, Denver, I have'm been a fan of unfortunately so
but I'm gonna give you twenty six years of the Broncos.
But yeah, I do, look at that doesn't look yeah?
Oh Skyler Verdon.

Speaker 5 (01:28:51):
I was recently in Charlotte, Charlotte and met some people
who said that they got into soccer recently because of
the Charlotte FC and shows Tottenham as their Premier League
team to support. Would you have tried to talk them
out of supporting Tottenham or would you have simply wished them?

Speaker 4 (01:29:07):
Well, well, you can't choose like fandom chooses you. Like
if you choose, it's not real fantom Like how do
you emotionally get attached to something you choose? I guess
you do it with a spouse over time, but like
it sort of chooses you, right, you feel a connection.
You can't just choose without a connection, like you know,
I mean you didn't simply go ah, I guess it's Teres,
you know, I guess, yeah, we'll do this or whatever.

Speaker 5 (01:29:25):
Yes, she never kicked me out of her house. So
I was like, all right, you felt a connection? I did,
well yeah after that. Yeah, so there's that, you know.
So yeah I would, Yeah, but I would, I would. Yeah,
it's not a real fan, yeah, Max. Next, something that
I noticed this week is that there are is a
lot more green and white in the campgrounds and beaches

(01:29:45):
of northwestern Michigan. Any deep insights into why or possibly
just embarrassment for the Michigan fan base. I don't know. Yeah,
I have not.

Speaker 4 (01:29:58):
I haven't been up there this summer so very much.
I want up early in the summer. But yeah, yeah,
that's interesting, interesting observation.

Speaker 5 (01:30:04):
I don't know where to go with it. The ones
you don't skip are the best. Jebediah a long shot
late submission. But can Graham change his bit? At the
end of Spartan speak from throwing fruit at us to
throwing dildos at us? Dude, I gotta listen to this,
spart What do you guys have going on? I got
to open much way? Is that your bid? At the end?

(01:30:24):
I just say, you know, subscribe, we throw fruit whatever
you want to do? Yeah, every show, a lot of shows.
I got you, all right, Hans Jurgen should Sweet Waters
and Groovy Donuts have a gladiator style fight to the
death in Jennison field House prior to the Western Michigan
versus Michigan State Game. Winner gets Graham's heart and a
couple of dollars pulls.

Speaker 4 (01:30:44):
My heart is a Groovy Donuts. Sweet Waters may have
catered our wedding, but we didn't know about Groovy Donuts
at the time, and Groovy Donuts is, Yeah, Groovy Donuts
has has my heart and for good reason. If you've
ever had a Groovy Donut, you know what your heart
and your gut.

Speaker 5 (01:30:58):
Jay Hawkins, what do you think made Jonathan Smith not
understand how intense the Michigan and Michigan State game was
last year? In my view, that's inexcusable considering he both
played and coached in the Oregon Oregon State Game aka
the Civil War.

Speaker 4 (01:31:13):
Every rivalry is different, and you know, I don't know
all the dynamics inside of the Oregon Oregan State Game.
I'm sure there's some infurory, inferiority complex stuff that goes
on there, but it's.

Speaker 5 (01:31:24):
Just but it has to be personal though. Yeah, I
think it's just because you've been a part of another rivalry.
You can't just come in and feel the same ye
that you did against Oregon. Yep, yeah, yeah, it's it's
it's something has to happen to you. It'd rub your ass.
And you may know rivalry, but you got to feel
it too, and that's that's yeah, Yeah, that's it. Jake
thoughts on the possible expansion of Major League Baseball by

(01:31:46):
adding two teams and causing a reshuffle of teams into
eight divisions with four teams in them, including combining traditional
AL and NL teams. We got to get Manford out
of the out of the commission. You don't, you don't
like the idea of these divisions, Like if you have expansion,
I don't listen, you know, if you want to sit
there and change you know, divisions, I don't know about that,

(01:32:07):
but the expansion. And I saw this, and I saw,
you know, people saying like how that you have one
of your teams playing in a minor league stadium right now,
right the Oakland A's, and you want to sit there?
And I just don't.

Speaker 4 (01:32:20):
You don't enough pitching as it is, And always yeah
I would, I would. I don't mind the division of changes.
I don't mind the idea of getting I'd love to
have Toronto and the Tiger's division. I would, you know,
the problem is it still gets trick.

Speaker 5 (01:32:30):
I want to get out of this division. It stinks
well of the Central and it still gets tricky. It's
not like, yeah, people act like the travels. You know,
Detroit to Minnesota on a charter flight is not that bad.
Professional athletes, I do not want to hear about travel.
Do not miss me with fucking trout, even the college
athletes now.

Speaker 4 (01:32:45):
So say you want to go with a division, will
be a lot of fun for the Tigers. And in
terms of rivalries, where you went Toronto, Cleveland, Detroit, the Cubs,
White Sox. You know, but then you can't have the Cubs,
have to have the the the Cardinals and so like.
Everything has its own tentacles and it gets Yeah, it's tricky.

Speaker 5 (01:33:04):
All right, Hawk quick take from Monday's show that you
didn't have time to read. Got any stories from fellow
Columbia College classmates interning at the Jerry Springer show. In
the Netflix documentary Fights Camera Action, producers talked about the
pressure to make good shows to keep ratings.

Speaker 4 (01:33:23):
You know, I don't remember any but I know there
are quite a few who had done it, and people
had good experiences there, so I but I don't. I
wish I remembered it offhand. It's been a long time,
and I didn't have any like I had, you know,
sort of classmates, but not I don't believe I any
real close friends who did.

Speaker 5 (01:33:41):
It next one from the hawk. As far as cost
to go to games or to watch them all at
home with so many streaming services, do you guys think
all that greed and price gouging is gonna make future
generations not like or even care about sports. I don't
think that's gonna do it. I mean, by the time
they're old enough, it's gonna I mean.

Speaker 4 (01:34:01):
Well, I think one concern is younger people don't watch
games anymore, right, They watch YouTube clips, And I think
that is a concern, Like that's insanity. We used to
watch highlights and games and we loved it. And if
you don't like watching games, I think it's hard to
really be connected to the sport. So that's that's one
area I would really work on. And that's that comes
down to, like you know, a tension spans and all

(01:34:23):
that stuff. And you know, I got a crushed tape.
Well and young you got to young people watching movies
instead of clips. You gotta you gotta work on them,
you know, I mean they don't uh, it doesn't happen
on his own.

Speaker 5 (01:34:32):
N Next one, last one from the Hawk. If you
could pick a character from either the Sopranos or The
Wire to get caught while out of the concert with
their secret lover, the way the tech ceo did recently
at a cold Play show, which characters would it be? Well,
MacNulty would happen. That was an all timer from the Hawk.

Speaker 4 (01:34:50):
By the way, McNulty would happen to the Wire, like
he would absolutely get caught doing that. That would happen
to him, right, I mean that would be Gandal Feeni
was one of his Russians, you know, or something.

Speaker 5 (01:35:00):
I don't know. It's uh yeah, all right. Jerk guy
who will be the Spartans leading.

Speaker 4 (01:35:06):
Rusher, zero idea, And I don't even want to. I mean,
I don't know, Fraser, let's go Fraser, it.

Speaker 5 (01:35:12):
Go either way. Jerk guy who will be Basketball's next commitment,
no idea. Sorry, upper Deck jerk guy. Will there be
a Friday show next week? No?

Speaker 4 (01:35:23):
The plan is a Thursday show because the game is
on Friday and we want to I really thought you
were gonna go no idea, no idea, dam I should
have said no idea.

Speaker 5 (01:35:31):
Upper deck jerk guy? What are your thoughts on tribdism Alright?
Try bad? Isn't hold on? Let me? Don't be porn
or come on, come on porn. I've never heard of it,
so I can't be porn. Oh born.

Speaker 4 (01:35:51):
It's a form of sexual sexual activity between a woman,
which generals are Okay, we're gonna.

Speaker 5 (01:35:57):
Don't tease me like that, finish it. No, no, you
can look. You can look it up. Sorry, CTS jerk guy.
Which of these is the best name in college football?
Is the case? Silent on this guy's I don't know.
I don't know. I would be careful. Noah, yep, Noah yep,
k n I g g A. How do you say it? Don't? Don't, don't,

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don't King Large, nitro tuggle dude person, Rocky Beers or
something else. King Large is pretty good dude person. That
is my favorite. Does Noah's name make your palm sweat? Though?
Like if you had to, if you were like about
to be ready to give a speech, and you look
down and there was King Large, Nitro Tuggle and Noah, yeah, Niga.

Speaker 4 (01:36:39):
I think my concern over that would be like if
I was the broad You're like the visiting broadcasters. He's
a eastern Michigan. Right, you come in and all of
a sudden you're like you're just going through the sheets.

Speaker 5 (01:36:47):
Because you have to ask, right, you'd have is the
case island? Ye? Alright, you know that's it. That's it.

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Speaker 5 (01:37:27):
Uh there.

Speaker 4 (01:37:28):
We will be back on Monday and next week planning
Monday Wednesday Thursday, with the game on Friday. Good show Man,
Yeah Man, Couch and the group