Ep. 1067: Twitter Questions; previewing MSU football vs. BC; and this week's football picks

We opened with our college football and NFL picks against the spread for this week with Harry, including the MSU and Michigan games and our best bets (8:00). Then a conversation with Boston College football writer Graham Dietz on the state of the Spartans' opponent this week (35:00). Plus, answers to your questions on MSU football, the Tigers, the possibility we have illegitimate children and more, including The Rube's rant abut Los (47:00)

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (01:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:08):
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Speaker 3 (01:25):
Oh oh.

Speaker 4 (01:40):
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Speaker 3 (01:45):
What do you get when you cross a know it
all newspaper columnist with an awkward, unsophisticated every man.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, uh well, I'm just not sure about that right now. Now,
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Speaker 5 (03:04):
Guna Yaba Gita, Jared god.

Speaker 1 (03:09):
Gram, Graham gram Gram. What's up, buddy.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's not Spartan speak, by the way, that's that's audio
from something else.

Speaker 1 (03:16):
Yeah, yeah, I don't even where that was Spartan speak,
Wasn't it? Was it? Yeah, we got it.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
I actually had to tune into Spartan speak because someone
gave me a timestamp and I want to go find it,
and it wasn't the correct time stamp. But I was listening.
It's just basically Slari going on and on and on
and couch going But but I but I bet it's
a but like you never get into word in edgewise.
Why doesn't Salary just do that by himself?

Speaker 1 (03:40):
We used to. I used to have a gamer, you know,
and this is coming from you. I mean you talk
a lot, but fucking Slari man. So you know how
in a board game sometimes you have those little hourglass
timers that come with them, and so one of our games,
and I'm not even sure what it is, but one
of them was missing an hour glass timer because years ago,
when we were doing it face, I took an hour

(04:00):
glass time or into the LSJ newsroom, and I would
say it was a sixty second thing. I was like
both of us, and I said both of us, so
you know, he wouldn't be offended. Both of us have
to make our point by the time this hour glass
is up. It's much less back and forth than.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
So it was an actual hour or like a minute.

Speaker 1 (04:19):
It was a minute class. Okay, a minute class. We
had sixty seconds to make our point and then that
thing was up. Yeah, and yeah, I'm better at sixty
seconds is a long time. Phil used to take out
me jumping in.

Speaker 5 (04:29):
But but.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
Do you guys do it face to face? We do
it over zoom. Ah. The problem if.

Speaker 2 (04:37):
You do it over zoom, because we've, like I said before,
we've had that problem when you've been on the road,
and we've gotten a lot better at it. But to
know when to jump in with someone on zoom, it's
just fucking impossible because sometimes there's a delay or.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
This this particular week was worse than usual. I forgot
to turn my ceiling fan off for a minute. And
then also the year was a really good US Open
tennis match and I had moved the TV around, so
I was also watching that. A bunch of you going, yeah,
it sounds good, it sounds explaining all.

Speaker 2 (05:04):
Yeah, yeah, but I couldn't find someone just gave me
a timestamp, didn't really tell me what you what was
said during that, so I had to kind of skim
through it a little bit and I'm like.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
My god, you figure it out.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, I didn't find out what the person was talking
about because I was on Spotify. I know that it
varies from different platforms. Uh right, so interesting, Well maybe
they can they can fill you in.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm willing to check it out. The
big the big challenge of the day is the R
key on my keyboard is stopped working. So if your
name has an R in it, if you're like Ryan
Rockwell and when we do these groovy don it Twitter
questions and a little bit, who knows, Jason, what's wrong
with your laptop? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (05:44):
Why are you just talking about it like you're just
gonna Are you never going to type the letter R again?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Well? No, it works, you just have to press it hard.
It just started last night in the middle of finishing
a com It should he.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Be like, man, I got to figure out what's going
on with my laptop and not just hey, Jason heads up,
any word with R.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
You're ft? How many groovy donuts have been eaten over
this laptop? What do you what?

Speaker 2 (06:00):
I know, but that's what I mean. But that should
have been the discussion. It's like, we need to get
this laptop fixed somehow, some of that air spray stuff
in there. I think you're far beyond that.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Out of time.

Speaker 2 (06:10):
You need to take it to the Apple store. I
mean just with town Center.

Speaker 1 (06:13):
I'll get a new one, all right.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
But I'm saying that should have been the discussion. Just
the heads up for Jason, any word with R in it?

Speaker 1 (06:19):
You're Goodlook Ryan rockwell, maybe yayan akwell today, who knows
when they go through it. I'm just saying that if
you get to be some things missing, so.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
People get up my ass for this reading stuff and
now you're making it more challenging, it could.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Be a lot of a lot of missing ours in there.
Usually we begin our end of week show with what
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(06:53):
with Deetter Dits, but I think it's Deats who covers
Boston College.

Speaker 2 (06:57):
Graham on Graham's Graham on Graham.

Speaker 1 (06:59):
And we're gonna chats and get a sense of this
Boston College team as well. And then we have a
great batch of groovy donut Twitter questions that we are
we're going to dig into in the right after, right
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to be joined by our good friend, the great Harry
Gagnon and uh this is I don't know, my favorite
few minutes of every of every week other than talking
to my wife. Let's not let's not, let's not put
that part down. Harry also has a new way to
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(08:50):
big al dot com, harrymar that is.

Speaker 5 (08:53):
Correct, guys, big al dot com. You can catch my
free picks on there every day. You can get my
uh you can pursuit tribe and you know, see what
I what you like in my other picks that I'm
giving out. We have package deals, three day deals, seven
day deals, a month deals, six month deals, whatever you want. Today,
I was just texting you guys, sweating out, not really

(09:16):
sweating out, but my free pick of the day. Obviously,
you know, huge week for football. Don't get me wrong, guys,
but Graham, you know that this is a big week
in soccer two with World Cup qualifying going on all
over the world. And my free pick today was an
international friendly, Norway versus Finland. I had under three one

(09:36):
nothing Norway pizza.

Speaker 1 (09:38):
Cake, beautiful final beautiful. And you were Yaba Gita, Jared,
you were on fire on this show last week and
all the picks we talked about. I think it was
six and one. I want to say it last week
with the seven and two. Okay, seven and two with
the picks.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
Can we get those at f Bill Simmons dot com.

Speaker 5 (09:58):
Let's do that too.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
Don't get Harry in trouble. You never know. You gotta
keep relationships. I said that, you know, yeah, those are
my words. Yeah, you gotta keep keep relationships alive. You
never know when things circle back around in life. You know.
That's that's that's what I would That's what I would
say to that. Well, first week of the NFL season
is finally upon us, so it's it's college.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
Let's talk soccer parla, Yes, let's do that.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
Well we do have some other yeah, yeah, so yes,
he's you know, he just gave you Norway Finland if
you'd been on that early. And he does have a
soccer play uh for tomorrow too, so we'll get to that.
This is a tough week from me. I While I
love getting up and watching the early soccer and like
Iserbaijan and stuff like that, I I do get upset

(10:43):
with the international break happening this quick into the Premier
League season and with the US Open tennis. But anyway, the.

Speaker 2 (10:53):
Asian line of Jakarjean, the fuck can we get to
a men's sport?

Speaker 5 (11:00):
So just throwing this out there, you can't get second
half right now, Graham, second half action on Russia versus Jordan.

Speaker 1 (11:07):
Might have to do that.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Are you guys trying to get me to quit? It's
like the bit here, I mean starting to work.

Speaker 1 (11:13):
All right, Well, let's let's let's do some college football
and NFL and then we'll get back to where all
our listeners want to be in the soccer. We've got
three college games to get to Michigan. Michigan's the Michigan
State Game of the Michigan Game. But we're gonna start
with one other game first that I think is sort
of an interesting bet because it's usually close. Iowa plus

(11:33):
three and a half at Iowa State. Iowa State looked
great last week, Iowa threw the ball for negative seventy
five million yards. They still can't pass. The world is
down on them. It's a road game, but this game
is always close, man, Like I three and a half
is a line that they're just I think they're begging you.
I don't even know what they're begging you to bet here,

(11:54):
But give me the Hawkeyes with the world down on
them right now, in the world up on Iowa State.
Give me the Hawkeyes plus three and a half.

Speaker 2 (12:01):
Jason Wurrey, you know, when I first looked at this game,
I was like, keep me away from this borfest. But
you're right, Grand this game is always tight, and that
three and a half that hook reeled be in Kirk
Farence is still ass. But I gotta say, Harry and
the over unders forty one in a hook, Jesus, give
me Kirk Farnce with a three and a half.

Speaker 1 (12:18):
What do you got.

Speaker 5 (12:20):
Yeah, I'm gonna take the three and a half. Two.
It's always close. Like you guys mentioned, you know, Iowa
States looked very good in their first two games, two
and zero against the spread. Yeah, people seem like they're
a little down on Iowa. I think this is where
you got to grab the points here, and traditionally they's
kind of won this series too. But what I'm really

(12:40):
looking at, guys, in this game, I really kind of
I'm leaning towards the under. I really like the under
forty one and a half. I know it's a low
number here, but again, Iowa States defense shut down that
high powered offense of Kansas State week one, week zero. Actually,
if you want to say, what we really say, it
is in Ireland who And by the way, Kansas State's

(13:01):
a lot of people predicted them to be first in
the Big twelve. Gave up to seven points and two
hundred totally art for the South Dakota last week and
five of the last six games between these two have
gone under forty one and a half points, three in
a row and Iowa if you want to date back,
if you want to date back to six straight regular
season games now, they've held opponents to twenty points or

(13:22):
last thirteen points per game over those six games average.
I'm gonna go under forty one and a half and
might as well. If I'm gonna go beyonderre, I might
as well take the three and a half.

Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yeah. No, it's it's Iowa football and Iowa State who
you know. Hold your nose and watch it and enjoy. Okay,
Boston College plus four and a half at Michigan State,
that line has grown and opened at two and a half.
We're gonna have a Boston College writer around a little
bit to talk more about this game and may convince
us otherwise of everything we're thinking. Here are my couple

(13:51):
thoughts right now. One is I think Boston College will
be better than a year ago because I believe Bill
O'Brien's a good coach, and I think you see this
with Michigan State. You see this with coaches who get
more of their guys, especially in this era, get more
season programs. They did lose some key guys, they lost
a really good player up front on offense, you know,
but their secondary I think their quarterback play is more

(14:14):
in line with what he wants They've got a really
nice receiver, and so I think they're better. But Michigan
State is better everywhere too, even if it varies how
much better. And Michigan State a year ago on the
road had to turn the ball over like four times
with three interceptions. Two really cost the turnovers early in
the third quarter to blow this game. And they played

(14:34):
that game without Nick marsh their top receiver. Like Michigan
State was the better football team at that point in
the season last year outside of the turnover. So if
the turnovers don't exist, it's at Michigan State as long
as they can handle this. What I think is a
mammoth expectations style game. I just don't think Boston College
is probably eclipse them. The thing is is it is

(14:57):
four and a half, Like that's the number. It's like, yeah,
two and a half, seam, when it was under three,
it seemed better. You know, it might be if you
can even teasing it down, what do you get two
and a half? That's not great, it's not a great,
But then you're teasing it, Yeah, not a great, not
a great line. Next steps one hundred gambler, you know.
In the in the LSJ, I think I picked twenty

(15:17):
eight to twenty Michigan State. We're going to hold you
to that. So I am going to for our purposes
here take Michigan State. That fin not a fan though
I would. What I'm saying is, I would not advise
people to bet this one. I would let.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Graham wants to announce he cannot bet on this game
and I cannot cover in this game. Yeah, okay, as usual?
What do you have Jason? By the way, that that
the game last week, it's pretty simple for me. The
second half against Western Harry, that offense took a piece
of my soul. And I see that four and a
half number and it's already gross. And I got all
off season Jonathan Smith. Oh, we got to give him
some time, Jonathan blah blah blah. And I saw that

(15:54):
second half they scored two points off of safety. I
just can't. Until Michigan State prove to me, I have
to take Boston College and I like it a lot.
Give me Boston College plus four and a half. I
hope I'm wrong. I hope Michigan State proves me wrong.
But until they do, I love Boston College plus four
and a half.

Speaker 1 (16:12):
What do you got? Yeah?

Speaker 5 (16:14):
Boy, last week. I mean, I think you guys both
went to Michigan State. Correct me if I'm wrong, and
I went the other way with Western Missis. I mean,
just if you had Michigan State. What a brutal way
to lose and not cover it, you know, throwing the
pick six. But in this spot too. I'm not a
big Bill O'Brien fan, never been, never been. But and

(16:35):
I know it's a small sample size of Boston College
from last week, but boy, I'll tell you what sixty
six points. I know they played Fordham or whatever, but
the five hundred yards of passing. Meanwhile, Michigan State could
only muster about two hundred yards of offense two hundred
fifty yards of offense at home in their opener. Yeah,
I just gotta see more out of Michigan State's offense.

(16:58):
I'll take the four and a half with the Eagles there,
all right.

Speaker 1 (17:04):
Yeah, look, I'm I'm just going on the prediction. I
mean I would, so I'm gonna take it. But you
can't go against your prediction. Yeah, correct. I don't feel
it was down in print. I don't feel great about it.
I don't know if it's been published it I could
probably change it. Sometimes I feel so badly about what
I put in print that I change it before it
goes online. You have different powers with your pigs. Yeah,
it's not okay. The the other game of real significance

(17:27):
and it's not a great slate in college football. This week,
by the way, Michigan plus five at Oklahoma, which is
a good game. And credit Michigan for the series and
going on the road and doing these sort of games.
This is what you want, right They weren't doing it
for a while that they are now. It's uh credit
where credits do there? And it get it's you get
Bryce Underwood, freshman quarterback who showed some real promise with

(17:53):
very little pressure, had a couple of moments that weren't
as great like this will be a real test tough though, Yeah,
this will be a test against Brent Venerables defense. And
I don't love this Oklahoma team overall, but I think
it's a tough defense, is a tough environment early in
the year when hope hope is high, I think. But
it's a really hard game because it's a freshman quarterback

(18:15):
playing on the road for the first time. I think
Michigan's a better football team than Oklahoma overall. And the
question is ken Underwood not have the disastrous freshman moment
that most freshmen would have here or not? Just you know,
can he be solid? I think that's much more important
for Michigan than he's spectacular at any point. I'm gonna

(18:36):
take Michigan here. I like the five is a big
number of points. Wwise. I like Michigan, But you know,
I would also caution people against betting it, just because
you're dealing with the freshman quarterback and you could have
a three interception game where they get to him blit
twice and things go haywire and you're on the road,
and I just would you know, it's one of those
games that could go either way. What do you have?

Speaker 2 (18:58):
Well, you pretty much set it off. It's more, you know,
Underwood first start on the road, Venables, I mean, that
guy owes me money, so you know he should pay
me back by I just I'm with you. I think
Michigan is the better team. I don't trust Oklahoma, even
though even though it's at home. I think Michigan protects
Underwood make sure he doesn't have to do too much.
Give me Michigan in that weird five plus five.

Speaker 1 (19:19):
What do you got here?

Speaker 5 (19:21):
Yeah, I'm gonna take the five as well. But you know,
Grega May you guys both make a great points. I
think you know, you definitely have to worry about that.
I think Oklahoma's defense definitely came on in the second
half of the season last year, so he's supposed to
have a very good defense here. So I'm worried about,
you know, a real screw up that could cost the
Michigan point here. But I'll take the five thrown more.

(19:41):
Going back to where he graduated in two thousand and
eight at Oklahoma, I think he wants this defend his teammates.
His team knows this too, uh, and they're gonna play
extra special for him here in Norman. I'm going to
take the five here. It seems like a good number.
And you know, you know, the past couple of years,

(20:02):
you don't see them getting points off them, especially more
than a field goal. I'll take the five.

Speaker 1 (20:07):
All right. To the NFL Week one. This is beautiful.
We're gonna talk four games here, Giants plus six at
Commanders and.

Speaker 2 (20:19):
Why is this game on here? But what do you
mean to put this game on there?

Speaker 1 (20:23):
Because if you look around this is actually one of
the To me, it's one of the more interesting games.
There might be better games to make money on, but
in terms of interesting games, this is the fourth one.
I wanted a fourth game, and I love this game.
I like the Giants a lot. I think the Giants
roster is as good as the Commander's roster everywhere, but
quarterback you got justin Field, you got to like. I

(20:44):
like the Giants pass rush. I like a lot of
things about the Giants. It's a divisional game out of
the gate. Those are often close, you know. I don't
know that they win this game, but I think it's
inside of a score late, and if it's six, then
that's got a shot, you know. So I'm gonna take
the Giants here, and I feel pretty pretty good about
it too. So that's why you like it, because that

(21:04):
was your jumped off it jumped out, jumped out at
I just can't.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
I can't bet again with Russell Wilson. I can't somehow
Wait is it Wilson? Sorry, that's Wilson. What did you
say justin Field? Is that why you said him? I
was wondering why you said him.

Speaker 1 (21:17):
He's with the Jets. Oh my god, take this back
hold on Russell Wilson. I can't. I hate Russell Wilson.
Are you fucking serious? I mixed my New York quarterbacks.
That's horrible. We fix this in posts.

Speaker 2 (21:31):
Now this might go on. TikTok. What the fuck you mean?
We're not cutting this out. So do you want to
change your pick?

Speaker 1 (21:37):
No, I'll stick.

Speaker 5 (21:39):
Checking my notes, make sure.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Yeah, the trade that you didn't know happened. I'm going
to take the Giants for our purposes. But man, I
can't bet anybody in life without with no personality, So
I'm not taking uh.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
So Justin If Justin Fields were on the Giants, you
like it a lot. But now that it's Russell Wilson
that you like the command?

Speaker 1 (22:00):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (22:00):
What a gambling show.

Speaker 1 (22:02):
I think that's the difference between a three point loss
and an eight point you know what.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
I was gonna go against Russell Wilson, but I think
I have to take Russell Wilson in the six points. Now, Harry,
what's going on here? What's up with your boy?

Speaker 5 (22:14):
Yeah? Look, look, if you look at I'm gonna take
the Giants to look over the past. Oh, let's say
seven games, seven games these two teams to division rival
to play at each other, only one of them one
of them. Washington's won by more than six points only

(22:37):
one out of the last seven meetings. And if you look,
I know Washington was fantastic last year and they'd beat
Unfortunately they tripped up Detroit in the playoffs when Detroit
was all banged up. But if you look at Washington's
regular season wins and the quarterbacks that they actually beat,
they beat nobody. They really beat nobody. So in game
one of the season, and again six of the last

(23:01):
seven times they played each other, Washington is either lost
or not won by more than six points more than
five points, sorry, more than six point six points. So
I will take the Giants with the points here.

Speaker 1 (23:14):
Guys, I gonna get my Super Bowl picking for the
Jets now that I realized Justin Fields is on the Jets.
That's no. I just don't love Fields, but I just
think he's more of a playmaker. At this point in
a one game setting with the Giant, should have signed
Fields the all right Lions plus two at the Packers. Look,
a lot's been made about Michael Parsons and the Packers

(23:37):
are a hot team to pick to win it all.
I you know, and it's on the road. They could
lose this game and it doesn't mean the season's lost
or anything like that. I think there's a great Week
one game. But I think the Lions are gonna have
a little bit of a chip on the shoulder. People
are kind of counting them out. The idea that and
maybe the loss of two coordinators is an issue. But
if you see another story about from some national Yahoo

(23:58):
who rights that angle, I'm gonna puke like I'm sorry,
it's it's it's become a bit too much. I don't
know what that will mean. I think they're gonna have
a chip on the shoulder. I think they're still one
of the best couple of teams in football right now.
And uh, it's good weather in Green Bay, so it's
a great time to get the Packers. Don't love this,

(24:19):
but in probably a Homer pick here. But give me
the Lions plus two, Jason Warey, it's our core foundation, man, grip.

Speaker 2 (24:26):
Why are we an underdog? Dan Campbell owns lamb Lambeau.
What are we doing here? Of course, give me the
give me the Lions and getting too Harry? What are
we talking about here?

Speaker 5 (24:38):
You are right, Campbell? Does own the Packers in Lambeau,
beating them three straight years. I think they've beat them
four straight overall. Uh, you know, the Partisans pack up
very Yeah, I look, it seems like maybe green Bay
gave up too much. I don't know, but yeah it'

(25:00):
I have his fishing and you're right, Jay, Why are
the Lions two point underdog here? With history and how
good Detroit was last year and everyone is healthy? Something
is just I don't know, doesn't spell right here? Love
Love has not been very good against Detroit. A lot

(25:22):
of people, including myself, expecting a lot out of him
this year. I don't know. Fishing game game one, new
coordinators for Detroit, I'll say.

Speaker 2 (25:32):
Green Bay and doesn't Love have an injury on his
left hand too? That's going to be a nagging problem,
you know.

Speaker 5 (25:38):
Yeah, well a lot of the times that we've seen that.
That said before a game, and the guy goes out
for three fifty and has three touchdowns.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Every time I gamble, pretty much right, it happens every time?

Speaker 1 (25:50):
All right, Ravens minus one at Bill's excellent game. I
you know, Josh Allen's the quarterback of Buffalo. But yeah, yeah,
Josh Allen's still there. Yeah, good to know, to know,
you know, look, I like this Bills team. I love
Josh Allen. The Ravens though, are you know great in
the regular season. I'm not going against Josh Allen here.
I like it one here that doesn't actually the Bills.

(26:14):
But the Bills are one point underdogs. Favorite. Yeah, such
this game is the biggest coin flip ever. But I
like the Ravens. What do you gotta hear?

Speaker 5 (26:23):
You know, I'm gonna take the Bills. I'm not really
thrilled about their secondary Lamar may be able to toward them.
But last year, yeah, in Baltimore regular season, the Ravens
rolled Josh Allen the Bills by twenty five points. I
think it's payback here. Normally Josh Allen fantastic in the

(26:45):
regular season in big games. He's got a better record
in the regular season that he does in the postseason.
And again payback from last year. Now the game is
in Buffalo, will take I will take the Bills, all right.

Speaker 1 (27:02):
Lastly, Vikings minus one and a half at the Bears.
This this is part of when we do our favorite
picks here. What my one of my favorite bets of
the week, But that is not it straight up here.
I I really don't know what to expect from the Bears.
From the Vikings. You know, the Vikings quarterback situations interesting,
The Bears quarterback situations interesting. Ben Johnson's interesting, I am.

(27:25):
I think the Vikings roster is pretty good though, and
I think a lot of people have shipped on them.
I'm gonna take the Vikings here. It's just a hunch.
Probably wouldn't put much on it without.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
The because they have less interesting stuff going on than
the Bears have.

Speaker 1 (27:39):
Yeah, and what's funny is I'm gonna go the other
way and something I'm about to give out in a second,
But for the for this pick, I'm gonna take the Vikings.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Jason Wrrien, I mean, would it be easier just to
go what are the best things going on? Instead of
trying to figure out, you know, crushing game tape for
the Oh, Harry, see Harry, Harry's like this. I've had
enough of those guys. Yeah, the new phone line's been
working kind of weird here. Anyway, let me try to
get Harry back on or what do.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
We do it here? Yeah, let's let's get Harry if
you could, all right? All right? Yeah, yeah, Well, I'll
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Speaker 2 (29:03):
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Speaker 1 (29:06):
All right, all right, Well we've lost Harry, so you
have your going Vikings. Huh yeah, give me no, I'm
taking the Bears. Give me the home dog, all right?
Favorite bet is I love this bet. I love a teaser,
A seven point teaser with the Broncos who are minus
nine down to two at home against the Titans, and

(29:29):
the Bears up to eight and a half at home
against the Vikings. I like that a lot. You get
you pretty much? Can you get close to a pick
them with the with the Broncos at home against the
Titans and a rookie quarterback against a great defense, and
you get the Bears at home and you're getting you know,
two point conversion all that above that at eight and
a half. I think that is my favorite bet of
the week. Do you have a favorite bet? Jason, Harry,

(29:50):
are you back?

Speaker 5 (29:52):
I'm back, Well, you guys, it's not even hot here.
I'm in my car and my car. Took a screenshot
my car. It's too hot. My phone. My phone just
it was out because my phone was too hot.

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Let's talk about your picks. Well, you live in Arizona,
so that that's a that's a that's an issue. That's
the first mistake you made.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
Yeah, all right, we'll give you Harry Graham, give your
best bet again for Harry.

Speaker 1 (30:18):
Okay, for my best bet Harry, and then we'll get
we'll get well first of all, Bears Vikings. Do you
have a pick here who you like? Harry?

Speaker 5 (30:25):
Yeah, real quick, I do like I'm leaning. I don't
love it. I'm leaning towards the Bears. Uh. You know,
no Addison for three games from Minnesota. That's gonna hurt McCarthy.
We'll see what he can do. First game, primetime Monday Night.
A lot of jitters haven't heard a lot of Jefferson either,
you know, I know he's even know he's had that injury, uh,

(30:46):
banged up with that ankle. Haven't heard a lot from him.
So I'm gonna trust Cale Williams here. I'm gonna trust
the Bears. I'm gonna I'm gonna take him here on
Monday Night.

Speaker 1 (30:57):
All right. My favorite pick Harry was Broncos and a
teaser down to two and Bears in a teaser Update
and a half. Like those two together. I just think
seven point teaser. I love getting the Broncos down at
two against Tennessee and the Bears Update and a half. Jason,
do you have a favorite.

Speaker 2 (31:13):
Best Yes, I'm parlaying the games that I that we
were talking about earlier. Give me BC plus four and
a half against MSU Iowa, plus three and a half
against Iowa and SMU at home versus Baylor. Money line
that pays out plus five fourteen.

Speaker 1 (31:28):
Who that's okay? Yeah, all right, five fourteen had that.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Like you said, I not had a great college slate,
So I'm gonna go in three games.

Speaker 1 (31:36):
Yep. Yeah, if you want to go against the Spartans
a little little something there. I don't want to. They
got to prove it. Do you have a best bet
you love this week? Harry?

Speaker 5 (31:44):
This week I do this weekend in college, I'm gonna
go to Kansas State. The game opened up sixteen, now
it's seventeen. They're taking on Army. I like the quarterback
Kansas State Avery Johnson. He's got three hundred and fifty
yards six total touchdowns in the first two weeks. Army
lost to Tarlington State last week Tarlington State. They gave

(32:05):
up one hundred and ninety two yards on the ground
to Tarlington State. Army's quarterback Dlanne Coleman zero touchdown passes,
two picks last week against this team and Kansas State
has a tough one next week in Tucson at Arizona.
No messing around here for Kansas State like they did

(32:26):
last week when they barely got by North Dakota at
home as a twenty five point favorite. They only won
that game by three at a score of eight touchdown.
I don't think they mess around here at all.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I think they roll army and quickly. Harry, your best
your soccer bet for tomorrow? What do you have?

Speaker 5 (32:42):
Well, we've got a lot of World Cup qualifying going
on all over, Graham, So I'm gonna go with the
over two, just over two at minus one twenty five.
How about this one? South Africa versus Lesotho. Now listen
to Harry, guys and at South Africa's last seven matches,
six of them have landed on two goals or more,

(33:03):
which includes a three to three tie in their last
match three weeks ago. Graham, of course, I'm sure you
had that against Uganda. Withsotho might not have a lot
of offense, but their defense eventually breaks down. They give
up seven goals in the last two games where they
haven't scored. I'm gonna go at least you know, a
push is two goals give me over to South Africa

(33:25):
Lesotho in World Cup qualifying on Friday.

Speaker 1 (33:28):
You are a beautiful man. Quickly for me. I like
Anasamova over Osaka plus War and thirty five in the
night match semi final tonight in the US Open. Harry,
you are a beautiful, beautiful man. We will talk to
you soon. Man. Thanks so much.

Speaker 5 (33:44):
Always, guys, Thanks, thanks again.

Speaker 1 (33:45):
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(36:32):
another great first name writer who covers Boston College for SI. Graham.
Thanks for taking some time.

Speaker 4 (36:39):
Man, Yeah, thank you Graham. It's weird saying that out loud,
but I'm glad you guys are having me on the show.
I appreciate it and excited a preview this matchup, it's bizarre.

Speaker 1 (36:48):
It's going to be confusing for people, but I don't
mind that. I like hearing my name. It's a great name.
We want to get a sense of this Boston College
team from you, and you know, Bill O'Brien's second year
seems like it's probably a more season program quarterback who
probably fits more what he is looking for and Dylan

(37:08):
Londegren and you know, it was a little dinged up
early this week. Looks like he's going to play From
everything you read, what's who is he to? This is
a quarterback? Is he going to start number one? From
what you know? And what did you take away from
his first start against Fordham?

Speaker 4 (37:27):
Yeah, so a few times during fall training camp, bill
O'Brien would sit some of the current starters just for
rest days. And I think that was kind of his
goal and aim with you know, having Loanner Getten sit
out of the first day of practice this week. From
what I could tell, he seemed fine when he was
back at practice on Tuesday or sorry, excuse me, Wednesday,

(37:49):
which was the you know, second day of media that
we could attend. So I think he's going to be
good and ready to go and ready to roll to
play MSU on the road. You know, I was looking
back at the matchup last year. Obviously there's a lot
of differences between this the past matchup in this one

(38:09):
that's upcoming, just you know, the most obvious being the
fact that we played at home. We're going to play
on the road against big ten opponent and you know,
obviously in primetime hours and the quarterback that's the main difference.
Tommy Cathalanos, who is now at FSU, obviously just pulled
off that big upset this past week against Alabama. I

(38:32):
would not compare him in any sort of way to
the type of QB that Dylan Loneringen was in Week
one against Fordham. And you know what he's shown through practices,
through fall training camp, and you know when he arrived
in the winter during spring training, he's exactly what Bill
O'Brien was looking for in a quarterback. And I don't

(38:53):
just say that because he recruited Dylan in the first
place Alabama before he was at BC. It's just the
intangibles about Dylan that makes him a perfect fit for O'Brien.
It's the quick decision making, getting his you know, reids
covered one by one in a timely fashion and getting

(39:14):
the ball out quick and knowing to take that checkdown
pass if he needs him to. Is really what I
see out of Dylan, who had obviously a tremendous first debut,
as you know, in college football for the first time ever.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
The when when I look at the receivers here and
Lewis Bond as a big game, who are the guys
when you look at this Boston College team in terms
of playmakers that have a chance to hurt defenses? Do that?
And is that sort of the question that's still being
sort of figured out.

Speaker 4 (39:47):
Yeah, no, I don't think it is, to be honest.
They have a lot of depth, but there's a key
front three guys between Lewis Bond, Reid Harris, and Jayden
Skeat and all all three of those were players. Is
that the Spartans saw last year as well, so this
this feels like the second year of really building that
receiving core between the three of those guys. Lewis is

(40:09):
obviously the most veteran of the group. He's you know,
been in BC's ranks for now four years and led
the team and receiving yards the past two. But Jaden
and Rita made some really big strides this season. Reid
is kind of your typical go up and get it guy.
He's he's great in the red zone because of his size.

(40:30):
He's a six' five receiver who played quarterback in high
school and converted to receiver when he got TO. BC
uh From. Montana, ACTUALLY i think he's the only one
on the team From. Montana And jaden Has jaden has
really improved as well this year with his route, running his.
Catching he just if you go back and watch that

(40:50):
tape From fordham AND i, know obviously the secondary and
second level players Of Michigan, state will you, know don't
compare necessarily to those Of. Fordham if you go back and,
look pretty much all three of those guys were getting
open on a consistent. BASIS i Know lewis ended up
taking the majority of the reception. Shares he ended up

(41:11):
with about one hundred and forty receiving yards and ranks
top ten in the nation right now in receiving, yards
which is pretty cool to. See but, really all three
of those guys were constantly, open AND i Think dylan
even missed a few, Times jaden Or reid going deep
and you, know decided to go To lewis on more
of a checkdown throw or something more to the mid

(41:33):
tier instead of taking the deep. Shot but expect all
three of those guys to play a really big role
in the game This.

Speaker 1 (41:39):
Saturday if the concern that jumped out to me was
the two point five yards of carry and that you
know featured tailback runs sixteen times for forty eight yards
and so you're not mulling somebody up, front AND i you,
KNOW i know they lost AN nfl offensive. Lineman there's
some new pieces, there like what is that the offensively

(42:01):
the biggest question moving?

Speaker 4 (42:02):
Forward that is absolutely the biggest question moving. Forward you hit,
that you hit the nail on the head. There it's
it's gonna be obviously a massive, change, uh you, know
with who the offensive line is going, up you, know
on the front end AGAINST. Msu the defensive front Between
fordham and you know this, matchup and it was not

(42:26):
a good. Showing and O'Brien admitted that right away that
that was something that they were going to hone in
on this week during, practice is the run blocking, Especially
and WHAT i saw during that game was just a
lack of making. Gaps it wasn't necessarily that you, know
the defensive front For fordham was, pushing, pushing you know

(42:47):
BC's interior guards and center towards you, know the quarterback
and into the. Backfield it was really just the lack
of gaps THAT i saw When Turbo richard And jordan,
McDonald who are are who you, know featured prominent, backs
were taking handoffs and it just didn't it didn't feel LIKE.
Bc they've been a good rushing team the past two.

(43:10):
Seasons like you, said we've had a FEW nfl draft
picks that have been featured on the offensive line in
the last two. Years, Uh Christian mahogany two years ago
and then last year two draft picks between Ozzych pillows
on The bears now And Drew, kendall and you, know
they've got they've got, good good size on this. LINE
i think the average size is six five and a

(43:33):
left Tackle Jude bowry who has been getting a lot
of professional looks during, practice a lot of scouts in
THE nfl who are coming to see, him as well
As Logan taylor the right. Guard but just those other,
pieces the pieces that have come in for those guys
who have gone to THE. NFL i think they really
need to show that they can step up and if,
not that's gonna, be you, know a potential area THAT

(43:55):
msu is going to take advantage of On.

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Saturday the, offensively you, KNOW i like their, secondary it
looks like a decent Grow what is the strength of this?
Defense it's really hard and you know you play a
Fordum Michigan state is going to go through this next
week With Youngstown. State like you play these teams and
you're trying to take things from them that you think

(44:17):
you know about an identity and they're really it's you're
you're overmatching them in certain. Ways and So i'm wondering
what what you take from that game and what you
think you know about this.

Speaker 4 (44:25):
Defense, YEAH i think the thing about the defense is
it all stems from what defensive Coordinator Tim lewis does with,
it and he tends to change up the scheme and
formation of the defense pretty much on a weekly, basis
WHICH i think that's where the strength of it really comes,
from is that sometimes what you'll see one week is

(44:46):
not what you're going to see the next. Week and you,
KNOW i think they use that to their advantage with film.
Especially you, know they're trying to you, know play against
and play to the disadvantages their. Opponent AND i think
that you, know last, year they they Intercepted Aiden chiles three.
Times they saw that you, know he only had what

(45:07):
one hundred and fifty passing, yards and the season opener
for The, SPARTANS i think that WITH bc secondary that
came away tied for first in interceptions in THE acc last,
year has not lost a single player and has in,
fact you, know gained multiple guys on that depth chart
who you, know The spartans haven't played. Yet some guys

(45:28):
Like Sire Torrence Carter davis has a bigger share of
roles in the safety, realm you, know more in that
high second tier and you Know omari And, hampton those
are guys that you're going to see that you didn't
see last year Against, chiles but at the same, time
the three guys who intercepted Him Amari, JACKSON i think

(45:49):
it Was, Amari Max, tucker and actually it might have
Been davis as. Well those guys are all back as,
well so you know that that's kind of the key
returning piece FOR. Bc BUT i really didn't see them
create much pressure up. Front Owen, stuttermeier defensive tackle FOR,
bc went down during training camp and was unable to

(46:10):
play in that first game Against. Fordham he has been
practicing this, week SO i think it's hopeful that he
might make a, return maybe not to full, capacity but
in some but that's you, know if they can't generate
pressure and just Let childs run, AROUND i, think you,
know that's where The spartans offense can really take.

Speaker 1 (46:28):
Advantage what Is do you have a pick for this? Week,
Yeah i'm.

Speaker 4 (46:33):
Gonna go With Boston college in this. ONE i DON'T
i know that the line. IS i Think Michigan state
is a three and a half point. FAVORITE i just
with the way that the secondary is built up this.
YEAR i think that The eagles continue their wind streak

(46:55):
and you, know continue being on the road with a
wind streak in This in this, one.

Speaker 1 (47:01):
Well graham it. Is it is always awesome to talk
to Another graham AND i, HOPE i hope that name
serves you. Well AND i really appreciate the. Time.

Speaker 4 (47:08):
Man, YEAH i appreciate you guys having me on the.
SHOW i appreciate the questions and thanks for thanks for having.

Speaker 1 (47:14):
Me that Is Graham deats and you can follow his
work At Graham Underscore deats on ON x and just
uh really appreciate that and his his his insight And jason, like,
yeah what's your takeer with good guy From.

Speaker 2 (47:32):
GRAHAM i was distracted during that whole. INTERVIEW i have
to ADMIT i was sent a a headline from someone's.

Speaker 1 (47:37):
Column that came out this.

Speaker 2 (47:39):
Morning you want me to read it and you can
guess who it, Was Los Dan campbell And Brad. Holmes
seats could get hot If Detroit lions flop again in the. Playoffs,
jesus you to defend your.

Speaker 1 (47:50):
BOY i got. NOTHING i use a great guy to
have dinner. WITH i got nothing other.

Speaker 2 (47:53):
One the comments are something. ELSE i, mean if you're
gonna tell me, that you know it gets, response you
know gets a. Response there's one hundred and ninety six.
Replies that's not what this is supposed to be. About,
yeah it's not it's.

Speaker 1 (48:04):
Not so.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Sorry you, Know graham seems like he was a nice,
kid BUT i was so distracted from people sending that to,
me going, like let's Hear graham defend his boy. Loose
now let me come, on. Dude, yeah that's. Tough that's.

Speaker 1 (48:16):
Tough no it uh take away from.

Speaker 2 (48:17):
That Mona rez is single handedly causing the newspapers to go.
Under that's not. True that's my hot take For. Monday
that's a preview For. Monday, okay get him on the
show and defend this.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Shit. Lows come, on that is.

Speaker 2 (48:30):
Ridiculous it's, embarrassing it's Not i'm, sorry, dude but you
KNOW i love the newspaper. Industry that headline HAS i mean,
that that's the problem is the. HEADLINE i GOTTA i
gotta read what. THAT i gotta read. That what could
he possibly write in there too where you'd be, like,
oh you know, what los does have some point like
how could you even defend what he's?

Speaker 1 (48:49):
Saying? No, YEAH i mean you, right you. Can you
can write something that's a little more, nuanced like this
is a test of, uh you, Know Dan campbell's ability
to move on with new coordinator And Brad holmes to
move on without making the big. Trade and that's a fair.
Assessment that's a fair thing to. Say the hot seat,
ship it's the school, ball you, know trek school balls

(49:11):
out of the Cy young ord and anyone like he's
just a.

Speaker 2 (49:14):
Blanket who DOESN'T i don't. KNOW i don't talk To,
lows but HE i don't know if he MEANS i understand.
That but he sucks at sports. Writing he sucks at
what he's. Doing it isn't. Good i'm, sorry it. Is
it's not if you don't believe. That there's no way
what could happen this season Where Dan campbell And Brad
holmes their seats are both, hot what could? Happen a
Mel tucker sex phone sex fucking? Scandal they'd have to

(49:34):
be on The epstein.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
List, yeah.

Speaker 2 (49:36):
Exactly why doesn't he write that fucking? Headline Dan campbell
And Brad holmes could be on The epstein? List why?
Not Why why are we stopping at what he?

Speaker 1 (49:45):
Did did this? Morning? Anyway Graham deets was a, great
great kid. Though, yea, yeah you have him one. Again,
no he was good and there's some good insight, there
AND i do, think you, KNOW i, AM i think
The boston colleg defense is gonna be pretty. Good and
the MORE i read, LIKE i think my pick is
probably too. High twenty eight twenty is WHAT i. PICKED

(50:06):
i think this is gonna be a lower Scoring can
we get a.

Speaker 2 (50:08):
Pick from you right now to that your you're firm
on that you want to.

Speaker 1 (50:11):
Just make it your.

Speaker 2 (50:12):
PICK i picked it so, bad like he's give, ON
i can have some confidence of Your, YEAH i, MEAN
i just the MORE i don't Let Carlos monz ruined
this pick for.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
You so here's the. Thing BECAUSE i Think Michigan state
is not does not have much of a kicking game right,
NOW i think they will be more aggressive on fourth.
Downs there's an argument that that limits, them but it
also can wind up being more. Points to, me it
could wind up being a you, know a twenty one
seventeen type, game could wind up being twenty eight. Twenty
BUT i do, THINK i do Think Boston college's defense

(50:43):
will be maybe the strength of the. Team i'm curious
to see. Though yeah, again The fordham, game It's i'm you,
KNOW i think it's best For Michigan state that they
don't lead with that game for. THEM i don't think
that helps a, team, REALLY i really. DON'T i think
it's gonna Hurt Boston college this week that they Played
fordham last. WEEK i think it would Hurt Michigan state
they Played Youngstown state last. Week it doesn't hurt you
necessarily to the point you can't. WIN i just don't

(51:04):
think it helps. YOU i think you're better off at
least playing like a middle of the ROAD mac team
and playing somebody that's got the same amount of scholarships with,
you a little closer to your, budget all that sort of.
Stuff all, right let's we have a lot of really
good groovy do on A twitter questions we need to dig.
Into oh that's, right we still have those, yes, yes
OH i thought the show was. Over, no, no. Enough
but are you ready to dig?

Speaker 5 (51:22):
In?

Speaker 2 (51:22):
Sir, yeah let's do. It ghost Of George perlis up.
FIRST i Know graham loves to say that The spartans
will go as far as the offensive line can take,
Them but isn't the Truth they will go as far
As Aiden childs can take. Them and from Suburban spartan
dat DOES msu actually Need Aiden childs to be? Great
to go eight and four this. Year are there enough
other complimentary pieces that he could finish with like a twenty,

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touchdown twelve, interception sixty percent completion rate and this team
still wins eight? Games or does he need.

Speaker 1 (51:53):
To be truly? Special? Yeah SO i don't know why
a couple of these two, together but they're on the same.
Topic SO i, did AND i don't, think, like, yes
there is a component of this where this team will
go as far As Aiden childs can take, Them BUT
i don't think outside of like IF msu was to
truly exceed, expectations like beyond anybody's wildest teams, dreams it

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would Take Aiden childs taking them. PLACES i think what
he has to become is a pretty solid quarterback and
his athletic gifts will will allow him to make plays
and do other. THINGS i think he's got decent playmakers around.
Him if they can run the football a little, bit
it'll help a ton and the defense might be.

Speaker 2 (52:29):
Okay LIKE I i don't, know if you're going to
try to win ten, games your quarterback has to be
spe if you're getting. There but truly, so the question
points in the season as far as you're gonna take
like you, know if eight and, four LIKE i, do
think there's a chance That Michigan sate could go eight
and four and he could be a TWENTY T d
TWELVE i AND t guy who you, know more often

(52:50):
than not doesn't make the extra special, play makes it
once in a. While but the real QUESTION i have
for him is not can he make the special? Play
does he make it in? Moments does he make the
big play when they really need? It and that's what
we don't know, Yet AND i think we're going to
find out so much about him this. WEEK i really,
do because it feels like it's one of those games

(53:10):
where there was a lot last week that left you,
going hm, hmm that's, better that's, Okay well that's not,
Great like the second half, happened.

Speaker 1 (53:19):
Well, yeah and once the pass rush started getting to
him and he's dropping his head a little, bit like
that's that's a, thing, right what's that going to look?
Like and the pass rush is part of, that and
the offensive line is part of. That they got him
in rhythm right. Away they didn't really do a lot
With nick marsh. Deep they didn't do a lot on
script deep down the, field like what's that going to
look like so there's just so Much this week will
be so much more, Telling AND i think how you
feel About Aidan chiles and how you feel about This

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Michigan state football team On monday or after when we're
doing this the take show On monday will be so
much more real than maybe the inclinations that were had
and the feelings that were had a week, ago if
that makes.

Speaker 2 (53:56):
Sense are you intrigued by The bill O'Brien Jonathan smith
kind of relationship Hip bill O'Brien being a, veteran he's
been in THE, nfl he's been, around just the, coaching
the head to head battle because obviously he's crushing the
tape from The western. Game what Did western do in
that second half Against? Chiles and it's going to be
fun to see What Jonathan smith does to combat, that,
right it blits the shit out Of.

Speaker 1 (54:15):
Chiles and then also if you if if you purposely
held some things back and they and they rotated some
guys in LIKE i don't Think Elijah Taal tolliver is
you're you're running back in a Close can you.

Speaker 2 (54:24):
Really not score Against western and say that you were
holding plays? BACK i, mean come, on it's a fair.
Question all Right herett Was newsky AND asu football needs this,
win like. Breathing, uh Will Aiden chiles and the offense
redeem themselves and lead this team to.

Speaker 1 (54:37):
VICTORY i, Mean i'm picking. IT i don't feel great about,
it but it is a mammoth game because it feels
like it.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Just went back and forth like four times during the.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
Show it does feel like it affects the trajectory of this. Season,
NO i think they will be a better. TEAM i,
mean you, KNOW i, MEAN i don't know if you
heard the the few the wiis there from our Friend, Graham, yeah,
Yeah AND i dig, that And i'm you, know and
and it's. Right he worked for S. I he's not.
Hiding he's not hiding. That he's not.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Hiding also, SAID i got money ON. Bc now what
he did not say that for you in that press box, Couch.

Speaker 1 (55:10):
So you always have to take that with a little
bit of a grain. Salt that. Said you, know he
talked about the running game for them if they can't
run the ball at all In Michigan, State like we
talk a lot about the pass rush, defensively but The
Michigan state really just shuts down the run to begin.
With that makes everything out so much. Easier AND i
Think Michigan states owned secondary is going to be pretty.
GOOD i think their linebackers is going to be pretty.

(55:30):
GOOD i think their interior line has a chance to be.
GOOD i don't know. YET i don't want to bank
on that After Western. Michigan but if those things are
good and you're just trying to create pressure in a
lot of, ways and if the other team can't run
the football to, it it just makes life so much.
Easier So i'm very curious to see IF bc can
run the football Against Michigan.

Speaker 2 (55:48):
State next one From, Kurt will The tigers bring Up
clark And mike g for the? Run absolutely Not, no
because that's what we want as.

Speaker 1 (55:58):
Fans they wouldn't do it we, want Absolutely and it's
service time, too trying to Avoid, yeah they don't want
to the attention to service. Time, WELL i mean, again
this is what you're running through With. Schoobol if you
could hold Back schooball and have another year she didn't
come up.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
For a year, Later, no because we have still we
have like two years where this is like a year
and a half left and we're already saying our goodbyes to,
him so couch on. Fire The tigers record for the
last twenty. Games do we have any chance of progressing
in the playoffs with this pitching motley?

Speaker 1 (56:25):
CREW i think the only, thing the only way they
do is and, again bad teams get hot in the.
Playoffs not bad, teams but average teams get hot in
the playoffs and can win a. Series but it starts
with being one of the top two, teams which they
would be, today which means you don't play that wildcard,
round which means everybody gets a. Rest you set your
rotation With schooble starting game one and Schoo ball starting game,

(56:46):
five and if you get through it before a game,
five then you Got schooble game one of the the. Alcs,
like that's the key you Gotta you need your bullpen
as rest as they can. Be you need your pitching
staff rested and set up the. Way do you need
the bats?

Speaker 2 (57:00):
RESTED i, mean like you want your bats to get
kind of hot in that first, Round like.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
Sure but you don't want so it carries. Over you
don't want the, chances the odd the Odds tigers are
gonna win four playoff series or is like, Zero so
the odds that they're gonna win three is like five.
Percent like you'd rather have the five, percent you, know money.
Bag what should concern us about the matchup this? Week
The Boston college is just better than we all really

(57:25):
That Graham dats is, saying we, yeah The Boston college
is better than we all. REALIZE i think that that's
that like his second Year bill O'Brien, team the secondary
is pretty, good the defenses is pretty, good the. Quarterbacks
but the problem is it's just not even worried About Boston.
College i'm worried About Michigan state's. Offense you, know like
that's fair.

Speaker 2 (57:41):
Too they're gonna, Say i'm looking at that, first, like
are you guys gonna move the ball for sixty fucking?

Speaker 1 (57:47):
Minutes let's do. It but if they, can you, know
if if they get To childs and that winds up
being something that's in his head and he makes. Mistakes
AND i think it's also just the unknown when when
they play for, them you just don't know what's what
out of, that you, Know and you can say the
same About Western, michigan but it's. Different there is a big.
Difference Western michigan would would have its way With fordham money.

Speaker 2 (58:06):
Bag will The michigan media ever be held? Accountable will
there fans ever wake up and stop giving these guys
a platform and add prematurely accusing AN osu player leading
to death threats to the long list of lies they've,
spread it cause real.

Speaker 1 (58:20):
Harm, WELL i think the thing that is tough for
people is you have to remember The michigan media that
he talks of is not REALLY i, mean they're it's
not really. Media it's it's, media but it's not really.
Journalism it's a promotional, act, Right it's and, close it's
a promotional. Act it's a promotional lives people who are

(58:43):
in it because they're fans Of. Michigan they're never going anywhere,
else you. Know and and that's and so you're you're
getting people who they're waiting for this moment and then
they they carry the, message so to. Speak and, look
it can happen any writer is not discerning enough who's
covering a team that you get caught up or you
get poorly. Sourced but you can just see the rush of.

(59:06):
It and that's those people are never gonna be held
accountable because what they do is make money off their fan.
Base it's it's the same as you, Know Jim comparoni
had some snarky tweet About michigan AND i just WANTED
i cringe at And i'm, LIKE i Love, jim but it's, like, fuck,
yeah that is you know you are you are spartan
Mag like that doesn't come with. Credibility, Man like if
you if you rename yourself like The journal Of College

(59:28):
football or, something and then it's. Different but your spartan
mag nobod ring to and nobody cares what you think About.
Michigan they can't because they can't take you seriously on
that and they never. Can and that's just built in the.
Name some people say that about The Lansing State journal
because they, think, oh that's you, know have.

Speaker 2 (59:42):
You ever had a death? THREAT i had a.

Speaker 1 (59:46):
GUY i wrote a column about, RACING nascar And, Freeport
illinois in two thousand and.

Speaker 2 (59:50):
Four let's bring that. Back and somebody jasubscribers has been
screwed for. Years THEY i want to read.

Speaker 1 (59:56):
That somebody showed up at the front door looking, angry
wanting to talk to me in the, Average they showed
up in, person they showed up in person at the
newsroom and this is back when we were and they
didn't let them back or come get me or. Anything.

Speaker 2 (01:00:05):
YEAH i was, like see that is because you, always you,
know you tell people, like, oh, yeah you're in your mom's.
Basement but this guy is, like, right so in this
in the, Newsroom holy, shit.

Speaker 1 (01:00:14):
In the, summer you know used TO i, mean this
is the days when print journalism so. Rude you had
to fill a like we used to have roles, like,
hey you got to fill a column for This. Sunday you're,
like a, shit it's the middle of the. Summer we
have we have dirt track racing. Here AND i did
What i've actually thought was a pretty good, column and,
uh this guy was not not. Happy oh? Happy he
might have had a point or. Two, Yeah i've looked for.
It you can't find it. ONLINE i actually went through

(01:00:34):
how was that? Possible you don't have a? Copy, WELL
i do. SOMEWHERE i just can't find it BECAUSE i
have it in have been in the, BASEMENT i. Think
BUT i JUST i briefly at one point tried to find.
It but it wasn't like SOMETHING i WAS i thought was.
Clipworthy it wasn't LIKE i was sending it out to
get new. JOBS i don't know IF i saved a
bunch Of he didn't write you like any hate mail
OR i mean the guy had. Email i've gotten pissed off,

(01:00:55):
people BUT i NEVER i would know Like i'm gonna kill, you,
like because that's what a death threat.

Speaker 5 (01:00:59):
Is.

Speaker 1 (01:00:59):
Right you have to actually say that nobody's ever threatened my, life,
right because you.

Speaker 2 (01:01:03):
Can willy nilly like the guy didn't threaten your life
when he came in, There like when he showed up
to the. Newsroom, right where's That graham? Couch you're gonna kill?

Speaker 1 (01:01:10):
Him you think the lows has ever got a death
right a?

Speaker 2 (01:01:12):
Thousand look in the comments of The twitter like he
makes me want, to you, know create a burner and
fire off one of.

Speaker 1 (01:01:18):
Him fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:01:19):
Idiot come, on, dude what's he doing Next? Wednesday come on,
here explain? Yourself? Then do you want to do?

Speaker 1 (01:01:25):
That can't?

Speaker 2 (01:01:27):
You is BC's backup quarterback any?

Speaker 1 (01:01:30):
GOOD i don't think you're gonna see, Him AND i
don't know me called deeps. Back we don't know if
the first team quarterbacks any? GOOD i mean he you,
know he might. Be he's obviously was a good. Guy you,
know he's a guy's Recruited, alabama a guy That bill O'Brien.
Identified and you see this like With, cassianos the quarterback last,

(01:01:50):
year who you, know the coach At Florida state had
previously coached and had a relationship with, him wanted. Him
and sometimes when the coach wants a guy and that you,
know that can be a really good. Fit SO i
don't think we know. Yet as numbers were decent against
a bad, team and That i'm talking about the starter.
Here the backup had good numbers again against a really bad.

Speaker 2 (01:02:09):
Team maybe maybe next HAS msu changed security procedures or
paranoia level a year after the sign, stealing.

Speaker 1 (01:02:18):
That's a good. Question nothing THAT i, Noticed but for
players getting, In i'm sure there, are you know, what
NOT i think about. It absolutely they have done. Something
this was last, year and this makes, sense so until last,
year because you keep in, mind this was two whole
years ago that The Connor stallengs was on the sidelines
at THE cmu, game feels. Longer through that, year our

(01:02:40):
press credentials WERE i believe game by game they did
not have our pictures on. Them there was like they
would say The Ohio state game or, whatever you, know
and you have a lanyard for, it and if they
weren't game by, game they didn't have your. Pictures the
ones now for even for people like, us do not
allow field, access AND i can't remember when that. Changed
we used to be able to go down before the,
game last five minutes of the. Game no field. Access

(01:03:02):
it says what levels we can be, on and it
has our pictures on, them and they're full season. Things
so you're that. THAT i guarantee you was probably a
reaction to somebody being on the field who wasn't supposed
to be there and how passes are doled out and
and all. That so my guess is that is what
that is when it actually actually had maybe maybe do

(01:03:25):
we have a kicker? Yet they were pretty coy about
that this. Week my guess is they're going with the
Same sislow and equally doing long field goals And sislo
short AND i, yeah that that is a.

Speaker 2 (01:03:37):
Concern it sounds like they were pretty honest about. IT i,
MEAN KOI i, mean what do you what?

Speaker 1 (01:03:41):
ELSE i don't think they're going to say when, yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:03:45):
It's probably you, KNOW i don't know whoever's better kicker
in practice the couple of days, PRIOR i don't, know.

Speaker 1 (01:03:50):
Well if one of the other guys is, healthy is it?
Was was the. Question by the, way maybe maybe a
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Speaker 2 (01:05:08):
Jared with The, lions if they keep getting close to
the Super bowl but never quite getting there Under Dan,
campbell that's the worst case, outcome, Right, well, yeah THEN i.
Did it's up, there. Yep somebody getting injured and they're
all going to. Shit, yeah, yeah they got to make.

Speaker 1 (01:05:26):
One i'm aware of the worst case, scenario Like i'm
aware of what the possibilities.

Speaker 2 (01:05:30):
Are that's WHY i hate. This that's WHY i want
one Super bowl SO i can go down and then just. Die,
jared who is the best coach in THE?

Speaker 1 (01:05:38):
Nfl you had one coach when you can't Be Dan.
Campbell one coach to coach your team The. Lions Dan
campbell tomorrow dies in a sailboat. Accident who he replaces? It?

Speaker 2 (01:05:48):
What why is he dying in a sailboat accident just
to get hit in the head by. Somebody it's better
than The epstein. LIST i don't.

Speaker 5 (01:05:55):
KNOW i.

Speaker 1 (01:05:56):
Guess.

Speaker 2 (01:05:56):
OH i really Like Sean. PAYTON i know everybody hates,
Him BUT i, mean if you want to, win if,
like If i'm talking about a guy with my kind
of team THAT i, like the kind of football THAT i.
ENJOY i Like Sean, payton who's another coach that's pretty
much would you go him Over Andy reid just Because

(01:06:17):
Andy reid says nuggies it calls chicken nuggets. NUGGIES i
think you have to Give Andy. REID i, Mean i'm
not Like harry who Calls Andy reid.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
As ship head.

Speaker 2 (01:06:25):
Coach What sean, McVay oh, yeah, yeah, sorry excuse. Me
sean McVay is my number one. Guy Then Sean, Payton,
yeah gotta Be, sean you gotta. Be there's possibilities of
Trading Dan campbell for, McVeigh like you could actually have
that conversation with me without getting yelled at her making
up some fake death Or.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
Epstein not Your Jared goff would be thrilled that McVeigh
showed back.

Speaker 2 (01:06:44):
Up Alex, mayer what position group will be challenged the
most AGAINST?

Speaker 1 (01:06:50):
Bc, yeah that's a good. QUESTION i don't think we.
Know is to, me it's to, me It's aidan childs,
right IT'S i think the defense is pretty. Decent it's
his ability to process things, quickly play in the, pocket
make the right, reads use his legs when he, can
and not make big. MISTAKES i do Think Michigan state

(01:07:11):
is probably a little bit better, team and so If
Aiden chiles can just not lose the game for, them
they're good enough to. Win AND i think that's it starts.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
There next one From alex if you had to play
one game Of division one college football at full, speed
what position would you choose to?

Speaker 1 (01:07:27):
Play long? Snapper you can't hit, you, hunter long, snapper
they can't hit. You just kick that ball and get
the hell out of the. Way, yeah long, Snammer.

Speaker 2 (01:07:36):
Yeah, jebediah we're, Pussies. Jebediaho WOULD msu hire for next
season if Jay back goes nuclear and Fires Jonathan smith
if they lose the big must win game this.

Speaker 1 (01:07:46):
Weekend, yeah they're not going to do that because they
don't have the money for. It but it would be.

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Uh and can you imagine if you wrote a story
or a column that's saying that If Jonathan smith doesn't
win this, weekend the hot seat could be turned?

Speaker 5 (01:07:59):
Up?

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
Yeah would you do? That and the thing, is and
the thing is that would be more legitimate than the
one it was just and even though it wouldn, be.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
It would be some truth to.

Speaker 1 (01:08:06):
IT i don't that went not this. Early it would
take The it would take the steam out of this.
Year it would it would put some pressure on the
because the other thing is beyond this, year the money
is just not. Right like the answer to that to
me would Be Pat, fitzgerald the Former northwestern coach has
sort of been cleared of everything At northwestern AND i
think is a really good guy in a season proven,
Coach but he would have to coach for free Because

(01:08:27):
Michigan state couldn afford. Him so as long as he
WAS i, mean he's getting a huge payday From, northwestern
maybe he would be willing to do.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
So, jebediah who will be the breakout player on defense this?
Weekend and he can't Say Jordan. HALL i was gonna
Say Jordan.

Speaker 1 (01:08:43):
Hall, yeah you Know Morrian, smith MAYBE i keep hearing
good things about. HIM i it's gonna be somebody in
the secondary That that's WHAT i. Think somebody's gonna come
up with a pick of play back there that's going
to make somebody in the.

Speaker 2 (01:08:55):
Secondary jebediah Was graham turning off his fan in the
Latest spartan speak the reason AND i could hear his
background echo every time he spoke or is that just
silary forgetting how technology?

Speaker 1 (01:09:05):
Works? Again who the hell? Knows Phil friend left us
dry AND i have to edit this stun myself now
and so ill we don't redo? Stuff limited time to
fix the. Audio i'm in charge of. Editing we don't edit.
Anymore we do a little, bit but it's pretty, basic
like IF i know something's. Wrong but Poor Phil, friend
what he must have went through with you, guys he
used to listen to the whole thing and you take

(01:09:26):
a lot all the ums and Meet john jumping. In i'm,
LIKE i just listened to. That i'm not gonna freaking
listen to the. Podcast do you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:32):
Imagine having to listen to a podcast with couch and
have to take out every?

Speaker 1 (01:09:36):
Um? Holy, yeah. Yeah well the big problem, is like
we have amazing equipment, here, Right and one of the
great things about this is you can't generally hear my heavy. Breathing,
Right I'M i am grossly out of. Shape i'm barely you,
know like just, moving you. Know, No i'm just kidding
it not that, Bad but grossly.

Speaker 2 (01:09:54):
Is a perfect word for. It BUT i don't know
if you're that.

Speaker 1 (01:09:56):
Bad, No i'm not that. Bad but WHAT i mean
is the mics we have For spartan, speak if we
are anywhere near, them it picks up. Everything they're not,
great and so you we really have to remind ourselves
when you're not talking back your ass, up don't take,
SIPs don't breathe, heavy don't you? Know and that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:10:10):
Problem Ryan rockwell with Two hours, apparently can you Clip
salaris saying Big dooley to play along with his. Laugh
i've never seen a player's nick name you so often
by one.

Speaker 1 (01:10:22):
Writer he loves big. Dooley he just loves saying nobody.
Else it's it's.

Speaker 2 (01:10:26):
Amazing maybe that's what he was telling me to. CLIP
i guess WHEN i had to sift through A spartan,
SPEAK i didn't hear Big.

Speaker 1 (01:10:31):
Dooley but my Favorite salari thing that started to happen
is we have these these group interviews of players and
coaches assistant coaches during the during the, week And i'm
not a fan of the, setup but it's it's What
Jonathan smith. Likes it is what they. Do it's it's
harder to do interesting, interviews but to their, credit they're very.

(01:10:53):
Good if you have a story idea of giving somebody
off on their own or a little supparate or. Something
i'm not saying they're Not they're not standing. Away it's
just What john The smith. Likes it's just different from,
say the D'Antonio. Era so But i'm always in the
same interview As slari's What i'm trying to get. To
and whenever that coach leaves or player, leaves he always
has some like little quip little in a whole good lucking,

(01:11:14):
class look, good look at, this or you, know or
it talks about some sort of baseball thing or. Whatever
the real, well he usually has a parting. Gift it's
usually a partying, gift saying it's kind of, dorky but
it also fits the conversation and or how he knows
in their. Relationship every. Time Now i'm gonna have to
start making fun of him because this week it reached
a fever.

Speaker 2 (01:11:33):
Pitch maybe you could write them, down just jot them
whatever he.

Speaker 1 (01:11:37):
SAYS i like, that like the exit this this Year
selari exits yes and isoisms the two THINGS i got
to write down every time turn them weite elephant in the.

Speaker 5 (01:11:46):
Room they don't want to deal with the white elephant
in the.

Speaker 2 (01:11:48):
Room oh, MAN i love you, guys all, Right, ryan
for the fun of. It after one game of, data
who would you rather have a? Quarterback chiles Or Sam?

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
Levitt? Oh i'd rather Have Sam levitt than anybody in college? Football?
Wow THAT i?

Speaker 5 (01:12:03):
Know?

Speaker 2 (01:12:03):
Right did we sprinkle?

Speaker 1 (01:12:04):
Hot? Well Maybe nesmyert AT, lsu right?

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
Right what's? UH i THINK i looked up his heisman.
Stuff it was like seventeen to, one twenty two to
one around that.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Market maybe more than. THAT i THINK i got it
really thirty to. One MAYBE i have a little on.
IT i but in my Biers childs by the, way love,
it love. It my bias is. THIS i grew up
a Massive lway. Fan there's a little bit of pigeon.
Towedness there's something About Sam levitt's mannerisms that remind me Of.

(01:12:35):
Lway and they did right off the, bat and SO
i it makes me not an impartial observer because there's
something that triggers something When i'm like nine years old
AND i just want to watch that guy play football
and the way he plays and see NOW i think
he's an excellent quarterback, Too but, YEAH i. WOULD i,
Mean chiles is a guy WHO'S i didn't going to
have to prove himself to The Sam levitt. Level So
Sam levitt gave You lway vibes and you're just telling

(01:12:57):
us now right away did he wear seven? To that
might have been, it but you're just telling us this.
NOW i Think i've said, that have?

Speaker 2 (01:13:03):
You, Yeah Jed Jepson. Kenniston, NEXT i just rewatched The western.
Game chile's poise and footwork were great in the first two,
drives but after The broncos got, PRESSURE i thought his
footwork got lost mostly in the second, half messed up
accuracy and. Timing fix that with THE o line that
protects and he'll be. Dominant.

Speaker 1 (01:13:24):
YEAH i, mean that's the THING i took away from
rewatching the game is in there were there were. THINGS i,
MEAN i watched the second. HALF i watched the times
that child seemed too quick to, run but the game
was also, Quick like it was like there weren't that
MANY i wanted to see. MORE i almost wish the
game was like not that people wanted another second, half

(01:13:44):
but you, know it was almost, Like, okay that was,
decent that was there weren't enough examples THAT i was
looking to see with, him And I'm i'm curious to see.
More i'm Not i'm not writing Off child's ability to
really take it to the next, level BUT i do
think when and he admitted, this one of his challenges
is his eyes dropped and and you know his tendency
is to. Run that's a hard thing to. Overcome So

(01:14:04):
i'll be interested see what that looks. Like, also we
missed one From. Professor i'm, sorry, yeah, yeah, yeah who
just SAID i got? IT i got, oh, YEAH i got.

Speaker 2 (01:14:11):
You If Sam levitt wins the, heisman this is From.
Professor If Sam levitt wins The, heisman will it be
held Against smith.

Speaker 1 (01:14:20):
To to something? Easily, yeah when it depends on What
Michigan state situation. Is, Right If Michigan state's nine and
three and and and, obviously If levitt wins The, heisman
Then Arizona state's like eleven to one in a. Playoff
but If Michigan state's nine and three and people don't
Mind childs AND i feel like the program's head in
the right, DIRECTION i think it'll be. Okay what what

(01:14:40):
you don't want is Like Sam levitt takes, off wins a.
Heisman they go eleven and one. Layoff, Next John Alway
chiles doesn't finish the season as the, starter like the
team's five and, Seven like you can't have. That that
would be then it would be like what were you
watching and and and when you're evaluating these?

Speaker 2 (01:14:57):
Guys monfield cag. Next how big a factor do you
see the crowd being On saturday? NIGHT i know the
players have told you this game and had been, circled
BUT i think fans are looking for revenge as.

Speaker 1 (01:15:09):
Well it should be a big, atmosphere AND i think
it will. BE i think people Are the first game
did enough that people are kind of come. Back you
know what.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
About those concession, Lines we're gonna get those. Moveing, well
that's Talking Jay batt. About people know they can't go
to the concession. Line you eat, beforehand you pee, beforehand
you're in your. Seat that's how you solve the. Problem
that's all you can do with. THIS i WOULDN'T i
wouldn't trust. It guys could just eat before you, come
just half of you and then another half could.

Speaker 1 (01:15:36):
Eat they could have like a thing where they point
at different sections section four your turn all the section four.

Speaker 2 (01:15:40):
Always screws it up because of the way they got to.
Be you can, order can we order by? Phone there's
got to be a way to order by, phone pick up.
BOOM i think soccer is the way to go. Here
AND i don't mean this to make you. Sleep i'm just,
saying you, know the idea that this is a soccer
is a sport where you can't leave your seat because
there are no, breaks, right people do.

Speaker 1 (01:15:59):
EVERYTHING i, mean the whole game's a. Break but they
do everything at, halftime and they do it, well and
they have things set up and they and people still
have time to stand around and drink and eat in
the in the in the stands and the and they
get you out in two hours or. So, yeah they
know how to do. It and so you've got to
figure out how to staff at the soccer levels because
those got people have to be back in their seats
by the time that second half starts are really soon,

(01:16:21):
thereafter and everybody leaves at the same, time and that's
the only time people are on the. Concourse so that's
IF i were a jay, BATT i would be on
a playing to see like An arsenal match next.

Speaker 2 (01:16:32):
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anybody WHO i always give it as a. RECOMMENDATION i think.
Anybody and that's the live read right. There, yeah anybody
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a restaurant, atmosphere also with GREAT tv setups around the,
bar and it doesn't overtake. You so if it's a date,
Night Casking company is. Great doesn't feel like you're in
a sports bar with TV's blaring at. You fantastic. VENUE
i absolutely love the some of the sushi bowls, there
The Big Island, bowl things like that At Casking.

Speaker 2 (01:17:22):
Company Richard, gaine what's the fascination With Jeff. Smoker it's
THE i don't. Know he's an interesting. Character played college
football while doing. Cocaine and snippers and had a great
life off the on campus. THERE i, Mean i'd like
to hear about. It he like to hear about those.
Times that's some hard. Times, yeah and you say, HARD
i say. Fun and he's also still. Hard the highest

(01:17:45):
rated quarterback they've ever. Recruited don't say that he's like
a top fifteen. Name we just lie and say it
someone Else, Manheim. Pa, yeah when.

Speaker 1 (01:17:53):
With smoker here one freshman freshman in two, thousand all, right.

Speaker 2 (01:18:00):
The Jeremy bonderman Of Southern.

Speaker 1 (01:18:01):
Maine?

Speaker 2 (01:18:01):
Next have they ruined the live college football watching? Experience
how long until the bubble? Bursts sitting at, HOME i
can flip. Channels at The western, GAME i was filled
with rage every time the red hat guy and the
countdown board stepped into the. Field and From Ralph, ee
you were right about commercials in college. Football was thirty
plus YEAR msu football season ticket holder drove eight hours

(01:18:25):
round trip for each. Game So i'm not a fairweather.
Fan WHEN msu football is ON. Tv NOW i record
the game and join in part way. Through get to
fast forward through commercials and halftime on The INFINITY. Dvr,
yeah nice promo makes the games far more, enjoyable And
jason Pro tip did the same thing With Corso's Last Game.

(01:18:46):
DAY i watched the good parts in a half hour
and his picks.

Speaker 1 (01:18:49):
Live one of the great things About infinity is THAT
dvr AND i lasted a half, hour AND i love
it on my phone as. Well it is. ONE i,
mean you could be. IT i think the PHONE dvr
From xfinity's is the best. Feature, uh and use the.
GAMES i use. It you're a sports. Fan, yeah it's,
absolutely absolutely. Amazing, YEAH i mean this is an. Issue

(01:19:13):
it is an, issue and people act like some people
act like it's not an, issue but it. Is people
are annoyed by and more and more people are gonna
Think i'd rather be at. Home jason would rather be at. Home.

Speaker 2 (01:19:22):
ABSOLUTELY i just figure that's my age group, though BECAUSE
i even you, know when we went To, Live i'm
like with the, PARKING i saw like ten golf. SHOTS i,
mean it was fun to watch my wife ON tv
after A bryce and D chambeau. Drive But i'm just
saying everybody wanted to, go you, know wanted me to
go to The western game and. Tailgate BUT i just
see if all those people and the lines and all
that and Then i'm at home.

Speaker 1 (01:19:42):
With three TVs and it's. Beautiful it doesn't Mean i'm
just saying it doesn't need to be this. WAY i
know they need to pay for, stuff AND i know
this this sport is expensive and all, that but there
are better ways that you gotta be more. Creative this
is like having just boomers come up with the, idea
will more. COMMERCIALS i guess that's all you do. It
that's till you make the. Money like there's a more
commercials on the red. Zone let's let's think of creative
ways to make the advertising ingratiated in the experience and

(01:20:06):
but not take away from the experience and not slow
it down. Entirely there have to be, ways and you
gotta more creative.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
There BUT i think you, know as football, VIEWERS i
think that we will have to end up boycotting or something.
Like i'm NOT i. WON'T i will not be able
to do. It LIKE i THINK i could join on
at some, point but for me to, Go i'm not
watching football or recording ON dvr and jumping halfway through
LIKE i could never do.

Speaker 1 (01:20:28):
That the bigger problem for. College But i'm willing to
cheer you on if you're gonna do it. Well the
bigger problem for college football is THE nfl starts this.
Weekend THE nfl is not as. Bad it's a quicker moving.
Game the COMMERCIALS i.

Speaker 2 (01:20:38):
Know, right So i'm. DOING i, mean the last thing
we had was Was Chris hansen not peen and giving
us eight hours of uninterrupted. Football and they have to ruin,
that like how much you gotta squeeze the tit just
squeeze it. Dry for every fucking thing you can't just
give us. RED i used to look forward to That
Chris hansen all freaking day right. There you, know giganic,

(01:21:00):
boner BUT i love, him but you know it's eight
hours and he didn't peet one. Time Parker, weiss is
everyone too focused on the performance of the, Offense chiles a,
line et cetera that we could be overlooking a potentially
very good. Defense i'm also one of these, people but
maybe more stock should be placed on that defensive performance Versus.

Speaker 1 (01:21:18):
Western, no there's a chance of. It its just, again
it's it's not like What Boston college dealt with With,
fordham but you just got to see it against not
a first time starting quarterback at that, level not an
offensive line that's're placing four. Guys you just got to
see it against other. PEOPLE i think there are lots
of things about the defense that are potentially, encouraging but
we talked.

Speaker 2 (01:21:38):
About those On monday at The Hot Take. Show is,
First that's what we prefaced it. With it's, like the
defense looked, great the first half was. Great it's JUST
i don't think people are harping on the offense too.
Much it just was.

Speaker 1 (01:21:47):
SHOCKING i do THINK i do think the linebackers and
secondary have a chance to, be you, know a really,
nice really nice, units AND i do wonder if the
interior defensive line can't be so as, well which again
opens other things. Up, look this week could be somewhat,
telling and then you got to keep doing it because you,
know Maybe Boston college is just horrendous at running the,
football and so this week isn't entirely telling on. That you,

(01:22:09):
know by the Time Michigan state comes back FROM, usc
you kind of, know right you played two high major.
OPPONENTS i THINK usc could be a difficult team with
a number of number of really electrifying, playmakers and you
kind of have a sense of what you are and

(01:22:30):
what your potential might, be AND i think they'll know
before they Go Totobraska Parker weiss.

Speaker 2 (01:22:36):
Next my gut tells me that this is either a
twenty thirteen type season or a twenty twenty two TYPE
msu football. Season Could saturday be one of the biggest
swing games in recent memory in terms of how high
or low the fan base will feel, afterwards especially this
early in the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:51):
Season for the fan base it, is it'll be. Interesting
what you don't have is a game afterwards you can,
lose which is probably, helpful although that's something you've got
to be you got to be good. At you can't
have The we saw that even late in the D'Antonio,
era where there's you, know they lose that crushing game
To Ohio state in twenty nineteen where they'd really just
thought it was a measuring sick game and didn't measure

(01:23:12):
up and then they went and just laid an egg At.
Wisconsin we saw that With minnesota coming Into Spartan stadium
at one point in two THOUSAND i think that was twenty.
Two but, yeah, no this is a big game, though
because to, me this feels like a game that determines
Whether michigan state plays the season from five hundred and
above or chasing five, hundred and if they win this

(01:23:35):
AND i know they'll get to two and one next,
week even if they lose, this but then they go TO,
usc then they go To. Nebraska and if you win
this game and you get to three and, zero it
takes the pressure off those. Games it's not the you,
know if you can find a way to win one
of those games on the, road people will be pretty.
Happy nobody's gonna go TO. Usc you, know you put

(01:23:57):
up a decent fight and it doesn't doesn't. Happen it's
not gonna you like losing this. Game and if you're
three and two WHEN ucla visits and you BEAT, ucla
which just got you, know creamed By utah last, week
then you're four and two halfway through the, season and
all feels. Okay if you lose this, game you're going

(01:24:17):
to be three and three probably halfway through the, season
and that feels very. Different that feels, like, okay now
you got to beat people to just get to a ball.
Game you got to keep winning the. State this team's
tough the, head you, know and now you got to
go To. Indiana wait a, second if you lose that
and Then michigan's net, like if you want to get
on the right side of five hundred by a couple of,
games and this is how you do. It you win this, week.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
Ben, chu look. NEXT i miss the days of Playing
Notre dame every. Year but in this college football playoff,
era should this non conference schedule be the template moving
forward teams from THE MAC fcs and a lower mid
level power for SCHOOL.

Speaker 1 (01:24:51):
I don't mind a bigger. SHOWCASE i think what you
want to do is you're. Scheduling this is hard to
do because you schedule way way out and if you
can avoid doing, that, Great can we stop?

Speaker 2 (01:24:59):
That by the, way stop scheduling in twenty thirty, five
it would make sense ten years.

Speaker 1 (01:25:03):
Out it would make sense to. Me anytime any games
scheduled out more than five, years it's not worth. Reporting
but because half the time that game is going to
be canceled at this point, anyway what you ideally want
to do is you want to schedule sort of to your.
Level you want TO i think A mac ONE mac
ONE fcs is, fine Two mac is, fine whatever it,
is but you need to play a powerful conference in

(01:25:24):
that other, game and you want it to be relative
to your. Expectations as you get, better that team should be.
Better you should be trying to create showcase games that
make sense for you in that Realm.

Speaker 2 (01:25:36):
Jay, riemenschneider what's the worst game plan urban And Ohio
state VERSUS msu in twenty fifteen Or Ryan day In
Ohio state Versus michigan last? Year all things, considered both
should have been at least fourteen point wins By Ohio.

Speaker 1 (01:25:50):
State this is a great question From, jay really really good.
QUESTION i would say the worst game plan was last
year The Ryan dave Or Ohio state Versus. Michigan michigan
had no quarterback And Ohio state was a team that
was capable winning the national, title like they weren't the

(01:26:10):
twenty fifteen that was a Great Ohio state, team and
that was a horrible game. Plan the only thing that's
In Ohio state's defense in twenty, fifteen and there's not
much because they didn't Run Ezekiel elliott as much as
they need to they didn't Is Michigan state hit them
with the surprise backup quarterback plan that they weren't ready,
for and it happened just As Michigan state's offensive, line
which had been banged up like weeks. Earlier that offensive

(01:26:31):
line was like playing on one leg And Connor cook
got knocked down nine times and carried them in a
lot of ways to that win Over rutgers on the
road was like twenty four to, seventeen and that, game
the line was. Elite For Michigan, state it got healthy
at the right. Time they played a style of, play
shortened the game they had. It just a lot of
things went wrong For Ohio. State still no, excuse but to,

(01:26:56):
me what happened Against michigan is one of the JUST i,
mean you had to go on to win a national.
Title otherwise it's again you're, winning like going like forty
five and two in a few, years forty five and.
Three like you don't want to say fireable, offense but
if You're Ohio state and you can't Beat michigan and
then you're also not winning the national, title you have
to have a conversation with your, coach like what is

(01:27:17):
the mental hang up? Here Because Ohio state had so many,
Advantages michigan did not have a quarterback and that should not.
HAPPEN i, mean we've seen. It we Saw Michigan state
in twenty, eighteen Play Ohio state And michigan back to
back When lawerki was playing with like one arm in
those games were like seven seven and seven six late
in the third. Quarter you have great defenses and all,
that but's still no excuse which aren't From.

Speaker 2 (01:27:38):
Lawerki jay was In ishpemine area this past, Weekend graham
AND i saw a guy who looked to be in
his early, twenties and he looked a lot like. You
so are you one hundred percent sure you didn't sire
a child and one of your rustic in the Wild market?

Speaker 1 (01:27:53):
ADVENTURES i can promise you'd be presumptuous, There, jay you
think he got laid well back then early twenty, KID
i never went To marquette in that, age so it.
Couldn't this person would have had to move to get,
there which is, possible and you had to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:08):
Bang them to have a, kid like you know WHAT i,
Mean like you're telling me you just that you've had
that much sex where you just there could be a
kid out, There Like i'm pretty sure you know every
time you could probably like.

Speaker 1 (01:28:21):
It. OFF i mean the times you had, Sex, well
let me ask you this you have had situations where
you had people show up at your house AND i
had wine. DOCUMENT i had one. Situation, yeah, YEAH i
wasn't surprised at that. MOMENT i was told beforehand that
person would show up with that document to. Sign, okay
as the child had been alive for a couple of
years prior to.

Speaker 2 (01:28:41):
That, okay SO i knew knew about the. CHILD i
KNEW i was in the Running Maury povich. STYLE i
was just given the offer to sign off on it
because there was a new guy in town and he
wanted to be a. Father SO i took. It that's,
like give me, That i'm signing.

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Speaker 2 (01:29:00):
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Speaker 2 (01:29:45):
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Speaker 1 (01:29:53):
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Speaker 2 (01:30:00):
Jackson when we think about all of the challenges m
as you faced last year At Boston COLLEGE o line,
Injuries No marsh and a couple of other wide outs,
injured a defense that was clearly inferior to what we have,
Today why isn't everyone more positive about BEATING? Bc do
you agree that just about the only. Position that is
MSU's twenty twenty five team is worse than last season's

(01:30:23):
team is at place kicker and From, Thomas AM i
crazy for not FEARING. Bc they've got a new quarterback
and only played AN fcs. Team don't see what there
is to worry about this is this could be the.
Case it's just there's just did you see the second
half Against? Western that's. It i'm not worried ABOUT. BC

(01:30:43):
bc is not some, big you, know bad dog coming in.
Here it's the offense Against western, well and you just
tell much what you.

Speaker 1 (01:30:49):
Were you don't know if where teams and programs grow
from in terms of seasoning and how much better they
could get. Get Like i'm Picking Michigan state for partly
for this. Reason LIKE i Think michigan's they a year
ago was the better team the data we have a year,
ago they were the better team other than the. Turnovers
and WHAT i am trusting sort of tentatively is That

(01:31:12):
Aiden childs and this team will not turn the ball
over to that, extent and That nick marsh is, playing
which he didn't play last, year doesn't Mean Boston college
is in a little bit, better But Michigan state to
the home they should win this.

Speaker 2 (01:31:22):
Game David, Jackson so is bat gonna Hammer Central michigan
or will he release his statement that says we don't
care if our cordial neighbor From Mount pleasant screws us
over and they cheat to Give michigan an edge OVER.
Msu those are the only two possible choices that exist for.

Speaker 1 (01:31:38):
HIM i would hold out on this card UNTIL i
see how the concessions. Go IF i Were Jay, Batt,
oh you, know if things aren't going well and you
need a, distraction you, know this is What trump would, do,
Right you just you just, Hammer like it's like the you,
know just Hammer Central. Michigan is that an alien could
have SWEAR i saw A ufo. Yesterday that would be my, Play.

Speaker 2 (01:31:55):
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don't like lancing when they find out you lived in
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Lancing YEAH i was, Right, YEAH i really, was just
because What i've done in the area And i'm, embarrassed
and you, know especially back in the. Day SO i

(01:32:15):
was LIKE i hated, lancing but you, KNOW i Like, lancing, though.

Speaker 1 (01:32:18):
Let me ask you what other community has two groovy
don its besides The lanting. AREA i can't think of.
One there isn't, One so why would any other place
be better Than? Lancing that's.

Speaker 2 (01:32:27):
True Shop gannett has decided to send you on a
trip to cover The World cup next, summer press pass
access to any games you want to. Attend, however as
it costs savings, Measure, Solari los And wojo are all
going as, well and you all must share a basic
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(01:32:48):
a mid level brand Like holiday And. Express do you?
Go and? Bonus who do you share a bed? With
and WHY.

Speaker 1 (01:32:56):
I don't? Go Because i'm going as A i'm going
as a fan next year my, Buddy. Scott i've been
saving for this and SO i want that. EXPERIENCE i
don't want to Be let's SAY i don't want to be,
working you, know let's say you didn't have that relationship
with a, Buddy, okay and then we're. Going so who
AM i aside from all? That but, anyway, yeah you
were doing this. Trip it was, free Right who AM

(01:33:17):
i sharing a room?

Speaker 4 (01:33:17):
With what?

Speaker 1 (01:33:18):
If what If.

Speaker 2 (01:33:18):
Scott powers could come as, well and you guys could
use that money for other.

Speaker 1 (01:33:21):
Things, okay fair, enough fair, enough so we all know It's.
Low i'm sharing a. Room it Is. Lows ACTUALLY i
would share a room With. LOWS i just, think just
you better stay up at. NIGHT i just don't. UNDERSTAND
i would try and talk about where you're coming. From,
yeah BUT i.

Speaker 2 (01:33:36):
WOULD i, think just you mind if we have a
chat based on my dinner experience At, LOSS i Think
i'd have a be a good. Roommate, Whatever Chris, eastlick
should we just get rid of neutral site? Games half
of them don't make sense on LOCATION ksu And Iowa
state and the atmosphere could not be more. UNDERWHELMING, Lsu
clemson And TEXAS osu on campus should be the only

(01:33:59):
illus you.

Speaker 1 (01:34:00):
Need i'm glad people are going away from. IT i
don't mind them With. EAST i don't mind The ireland
game in week zero a little, bit just because it's
it's in. It, YEAH i guess the whole. Bit, yeah
it worked with but why is like THE nfl is
playing In, Brazil, like, fuck get out of. Here, yah that's.
Dumb what are we doing that? For? Yeah, no the
on campus stuff is just way, Better And i'm glad
people have moved away from The Jerry World openers and

(01:34:23):
all that. Stuff play them on. Campus people do see
the campus thing like the rest of the. Season so
is it really bad sometimes to do like a one?
Off i'm just being grumpy, old BUT i think if
you do the one, OFF i actually like What Michigan
state's doing at the end of the year when it's
colder than dirt and you're Playing maryland and it's played
At Ford field or it's, cozy you, know instead of
playing your biggest, game taking your biggest game, Away like

(01:34:44):
if if The Penn state, Game Michigan state had The
Penn state, game which is their best opponent this, year
probably if that Game november fifteenth was taking off, campus that.
Sucks that's that's that's that's the best ticket you. Got,
OH i guess people Think michigan ticket's probably the best,
ticket but that's the biggest the best, opponent probably.

Speaker 2 (01:35:00):
Have Chris, graham why are your national colleagues so persistent
to prove that see college football isn't ruined by nil
and the. Portal then they try to make the point
by using attendance of top ten matchups trying asking fan
bases in the Mac Sun belt Or Mountain west how they.

Speaker 1 (01:35:17):
Feel, yeah you got to not. Go And i'm starting
to get a little more aggressive with this. Online oh,
no you gotta stop listening To national to do, that
because they you, KNOW i Love Dan, Wetzel but when
these guys who pick and choose the big games they
go to and the big things they, watch and they
think college football is, great that's, fine that's. Fine he
works FOR, espn, Though, Yeah but ultimately there aren't enough.

(01:35:41):
Fans most people aren't at the beheming, programs and college
basketball is a greater example of. This and it's not
that these teams ever had a chance to win it.
All but if you kill the dream and it used
to be that that, existed it used to be you
could see how you could become A, bois you could
see how you've Become Western michigan in twenty. Sixteen when
that's no longer the when that's no longer a, possibility

(01:36:01):
you will lose eyeballs over time when you when kids
stop relating, to you, know the, program they stop feeling
connected to the football, team when people stop knowing who
the players, are will the kids who are twenty, today
feel like the kids who are twenty twenty years ago
are out in their. Forties and when they do they come,
back are they the alumni or is? PASSIONATE i don't.

(01:36:23):
KNOW i think that's a real danger and national media
people do not have the pulse of. This they. Don't
you just got to stop listening to. Them they're fighting
for relevance every day of their. Lives Bulky.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
Bartacamus, next we'd like to have fun dumping on how
Weird harbaugh. Is can we be honest and all acknowledged
that Coach Jonathan smith is also a little, weird kind
of stiff and, awkward seemingly incapable of expressing strong, emotion
not saying it's. Bad come, on, man he's a.

Speaker 1 (01:36:49):
Lot, well, yeah but there's nothing wrong with being. WEIRD
i know how hard it is to be cool to have.
Swag it is fucking.

Speaker 2 (01:36:56):
Hard, Well i'm just saying to be a head coach
and if to have a person analogy like not Everybody's
Brian kelly And, dabbo.

Speaker 1 (01:37:03):
Are you thinking back to your high school years right?
NOW i.

Speaker 2 (01:37:06):
Was i've never been. Cool, ever this show has made
me like maybe a minuscule little piece of.

Speaker 1 (01:37:11):
Cool but other than, that, no, no, yeah it's.

Speaker 2 (01:37:14):
But i'm just saying, that you, know to cut these
guys some slack and to have to do all the,
Speeches that's Why Dan campbell is so. Great his speeches are,
Insane like to have to do those game in game, out,
well he has.

Speaker 1 (01:37:24):
It Dan campbell Has that's WHAT i.

Speaker 2 (01:37:25):
Mean BUT i think you can be a good head
coach and not have to be this boisterous you.

Speaker 1 (01:37:30):
Know, Well and my issue is never That harbaugh is.
Weird my issue With harbaugh is that he looks through
people a little bit and he's just sort of. DISMANTED
i have my issues With harbaugh not new. WEIRDNESS i
like lots of weird. People i'm. WEIRD i mean there's
no Question i'm. WEIRD i mean there's a question later
on coming out Whether i'm more weird this week Than Elon.
MUSK i, mean so like not at. All, yeah, yeah

(01:37:51):
you're way.

Speaker 2 (01:37:52):
Weirder Captain, Spark why did you ruin the question SO
i have to read it? Still Captain, Spardi why why
is our fan so soft and? Fragile we looked ten
times better than we did last. Year every position group
has improved some by a. Lot our fan base is
acting like we had to pull away in the fourth
Against New.

Speaker 1 (01:38:10):
Mexico oh, wait, well it's a battered it's a battered,
group you. Know and UH i love the dig People.
Michigan but, No i'm just, No i'm not even laughing at.

Speaker 2 (01:38:21):
That i'm laughing At Captain, Sparti, like what do you
mean you didn't see the second fucking, Half like that's
all you had to. See the offense was just non.

Speaker 1 (01:38:28):
Existing in the last few. Years it's just hard to
trust for, people, Right it's. HARD i would also be
nineteen points last year they scored per. GAME i would
be careful The michigan digs. Too that more season. Program,
yeah but yeah, Yeah sparty man.

Speaker 2 (01:38:40):
Couch The mony tailgate wasn't a, success as you said
it was in the last Show What. Wire it was
For Athletic department pass holders. Only this isn't back to
the glory days when anyone could line up and park.
There this was for the second tier of elites AT,
msu not the COMMON msu.

Speaker 1 (01:38:58):
FAN i think it's more accessible to the common issue.
Fan it's. Not you're, right it has a you can
e leap. Past you can't just pull up, there, Right
you do have to pay to go? In why can't
we do that?

Speaker 2 (01:39:08):
Again let's pull, up, Man let's pull up and just
have fun, again, right ce dubs ninety. One why did
the tailgate parking costs? Increase and if they are going
to charge more for, parking they at least pay their employees.
More all, Right Jay, Bat we got to get them
on the show Next. Wednesday this is, YEAH i didn't know,
this this. Happened couch is lying to, people and we

(01:39:30):
need to get the facts out.

Speaker 1 (01:39:31):
There he, Say oh, mon it's great if you do
have serious issues, though and there have been people who,
have you, know reach, it truly reach, out because even
IF i don't do, Something i'll bring it up in
a news meeting and sometimes stories get. Done and, like
because you, Know i'm never going to know about a
tailgating issue unless it's brought to my. Attention it's JUST i,
MEAN i park and we pay for. It we. Don't

(01:39:52):
they don't just give us a, spot but we pay for.
It but it's LIKE i don't. TAILGATE i just show
up there and park and go, In SO i don't.
Know it'd be awesome if he. Did IF i tail, gating, yeah,
yeah claim you're not a, fan but you tailgate before
you have to go. Right the new world OF na,
beers non alcoholic beers that are really readily.

Speaker 2 (01:40:11):
Available, yeah CRUSHING Na so people walk, BY i, THINK
i see you crushing AN na, beer thinking you're getting.

Speaker 1 (01:40:16):
RID i am more likely to tailgate than than ever
before BECAUSE i like. IT i beers AND i you,
KNOW i. CAN i had to.

Speaker 2 (01:40:23):
Quit BECAUSE i had to quit drinking BECAUSE i was gonna.
Die like you can still. Drink you drink like a
normal before a.

Speaker 1 (01:40:27):
GAME i GOT i got. It, yeah what's that of?

Speaker 2 (01:40:29):
It what are you going to? Do start firing lose
monorees stories. Out it's possible if you had a cop
to Buzz now there's a real Pretty IF i knew
you were you were hammering six beers before a, GAME
i would. READ i would pay. Nineteen if that's how
you go on to get my nineteen ninety nine a,
Month i'll bring that couch getting.

Speaker 1 (01:40:44):
Buzzed i'll bring that up to. Corporate maybe that'll. Work
serious can't be any worse than some of the other ideas.
Sedubs have you asked security At Spartan stadium about bringing
a portable treadmill and standing desk desk to games with
stories and takes me. BETTER i would enjoy. That, Yeah
i'm wasting time. DOWN i don't like.

Speaker 2 (01:41:00):
That six beers a. Treadmill you know you can walk it.
Off pop a little. Buzz dinospimoni IS msu, payers, coaches, fans, players, Players,
sorry miss. THAT i thought that it was THE r
not THE. L. Yeah IS msu, players, coaches and fans
referring To michigan as the team down the road a
relatively new. THING i feel LIKE i just started hearing

(01:41:22):
it POST.

Speaker 1 (01:41:22):
COVID i mean there was D'Antonio didn't call them by their.
NAME i don't know what he called. THEM i can't
remember who was the. Team it's not new calling them
this or it's it's it's it's it's been. Something it's
been something as long As i've been covering the, Team
SO i don't know where it started or what, this

(01:41:43):
but it's not, New.

Speaker 2 (01:41:44):
Dino the other, Week graham discussed his side effect FROM,
covid which was. Pizza what's the best pizza joint In lanston?
Area someone not from the area doesn't know about.

Speaker 1 (01:41:55):
Yeah, well. Okay there are a couple of places THAT
i would. Recommend there's a local place Called. Sleepwalker sleepwalker
or it's a uh and it's like a brew pub.
Too they make their own. Beer but they do phenomenal.
Pizza they even have this pickle pizza that you wouldn't
think you'd. Love the had that's so. Good, yeah they.
Do don't know from, there But i've had. One, yeah
they do a great, job SO i would recommend that
it's In Rio. TOWN i also Think corey's is underrated

(01:42:18):
now that, uh what's the place that went Under? Renos
the De lucas De. LUCAS i found. It De lucas
is the top of my. Head De lucas now De
lucas has. Gone corey's is this place that has this
this house pizza THAT'S i don't. KNOW i had some
similarities To lucas in certain. WAYS i really Like corey's
Underrated South cedar good. Spot the passion in your voice

(01:42:43):
is what's best about. It people will write in about
how like the? Game what do you think of? THIS
i don't? Know good go either? Way what's your favorite?

Speaker 2 (01:42:50):
Pizza four Segments scot you WILL msu outscore its FIRST
fbs opponent in the second half of a. Game during
The Jonathan smith, era what is the team doing to
get better as the game goes on and finished strong
in the second? Half and From izzo For, president why
are we so bad in the second half? Lately, scheme,
personnel not making adjustments to whatever our opponent did at,

(01:43:12):
halftime fatigue conditioning not Just smith mel had the same.
Issues and from send to, help have you seen any
evidence yet that THIS msu staff can scheme and call
plays based on personnel and. Matchup lack of adaption has
been frustrating so far in this.

Speaker 1 (01:43:28):
TENURE i was talking to a salary about, this, yes
sir this week On Spartan, speak BECAUSE i think one
other thing that's hard to, know because they've been a
talent deficit and a real depth deficit late and that's
where you wear, down, right when you don't have, depth
you don't have. Talent that is also something that really
shows up in the second half of games late in,
seasons and so it has not been. Promising they have

(01:43:49):
not been good late in. Games they have not been
the better team making adjustments very. Often they have not outscored,
People they've barely scored it all in a lot of
the second. Half so the question now is and then
the week one of this they weren't very. Good so
the question now becomes now that there is a little more.
Depth now they HAVE i think better playmakers on, offense
a little bit better offensive line running the. BALL i

(01:44:09):
think their defense is a little bit better now that
all these things are a little more, Seasoned like what
does that look? Like and this is a game where
you know you're gonna have to win some of the
second half, adjustments you're gonna have to you might have
to be better in the second half to actually win the.
Game SO i think the jury is still. OUT i
but there are reasons it hasn't looked good beyond perhaps

(01:44:31):
just the, coaching but there are arguments that they've been
out coached in terms of adjustments in the second, half for.
SURE i mean that The michigan game last year is a,
prime prime example of.

Speaker 2 (01:44:40):
That Max next Is Aiden childs shouldering too much of
the blame for The Boston college loss last. Season Nathan
carter dropped a touchdown pass and the fourth quarter last
year that would have put The spartans up twenty three to.

Speaker 1 (01:44:53):
Sixteen, yeah they made a lot Of they had a
lot of, issues and he And foster weren't on the same.
Page and part of that was was running the go
routes that would have Been Nick marsh and the speed was,
different and you know all that. Stuff AND i Think
childs was trying to do a lot with and it is.
Possible he did have three interceptions, though and and you

(01:45:14):
know one really cossy one early in the second. Half
you throw three interceptions as a, QUARTERBACK i don't mind,
Interceptions LIKE i think interceptions are part of taking some
chances you don't. Want people are too risk, adverse you,
know but like if you get up to three on the, road,
like you're not gonna win football. Games so he deserves
a fair. Share it was.

Speaker 2 (01:45:34):
More of the, fumbles, right like people are frustrated with
those last.

Speaker 1 (01:45:37):
Year you, mean, yeah, yeah, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:45:39):
Max who gives a f about concession? Lines we would
rather spend our money on a great? Tailgate, yeah you,
know hold it is WHAT i would, say sneak stuff.
In YEAH i did, Here Sorry, jay until you guys
get that shit, RECTIFIED i would be sneaking stuff.

Speaker 1 (01:45:53):
IN i did hear from quite a few people BECAUSE
i had the take that, well you, know you get
like WHAT i used to do is go like in
the last minute of the first, half get down there,
early get done with the, bathroom use the trough that
everybody and then that idea and, no and everybody, said you,
know that just doesn't. Work you, know somebody, said we
still did that and we still missed the first six
minutes of the second. Half like that shouldn't be the.
Case if that's the, case then then you got to

(01:46:14):
read vamp everything you're doing down, there because you you
ought to be able to leave right at the beginning
of the second half or halftime and do two. Things
you ought to be able to do the bathroom and
get something out of the concessions and get up in twenty.
Minutes that ought to be a twenty minute. Project and
that needs to be the. Goal make that experience twenty.
Minutes it's got.

Speaker 2 (01:46:33):
You where Does Luka vincic fit into the lineman? Rotation
was he a starter at right guard or left guard
before the.

Speaker 1 (01:46:40):
INJURY i don't, know AND i don't think they've. Said
they've said he's part of the, rotation AND i think
he's think he's going to play this, Week so that'll
be interesting to see what they, do because they do
they do want to whittle things. Down but Then i've
also heard that he is definitely in. It so, look
that's more quality and depth and they're good. There that
all the, Better BUT i don't know exactly where they're
going to use him or how they're going to rotate him.

Speaker 2 (01:46:59):
In Austin wolf. Next does the team that rushes for
the most yards win the? Game and how much will
the rotation be tightened up on o? Line i'd Say.

Speaker 1 (01:47:09):
Michigan state doesn't lead the game in, rushing they're probably
gonna lose given that that t seems to be a
weakness Of Boston college and, so AND i don't know
how much it's gonna be tightened up this. WEEK i
think it will be a little. Bit BUT i think
For Michigan state to, win they've got to win the rushing.

Speaker 2 (01:47:27):
Battle Corey, Ostrom, jason will you please tell me that
betting college football will go better for me this? WEEK
i took a bath last. Week what games are you
betting this? Week, Well, Corey i'm Gonna i'm not gonna
lie to. You maybe you might want to take this
week off as, well because there's, like it's not a
great couch, said it's not a great. SLATE i do
Like iowa plus three in a hook Against Iowa State

(01:47:49):
Boston college getting four and a. HALF i Want Michigan
state to prove me Wrong Old miss Versus. Baylor what
was the other? ONE i do Like michigan getting the.
FIVE i know you probably don't want to bet, that but,
yeah those, yeah three games THAT i. Liked Mojo, jojoe
what's your favorite rural rural highway? Billboard i'm a big

(01:48:09):
fan of The lions den ads next to The god
is reel. Ones, well they should be next to each.
Other god is, Real he's at The Lions.

Speaker 1 (01:48:19):
Dead i'm a fan of any rural highway billboard that
tells me there's a stop for coffee in like two.
Miles that's What i'm.

Speaker 2 (01:48:27):
King, yeah but are they accurate because some of those
where you get off and then all of a sudden
you're going down through their.

Speaker 1 (01:48:31):
Town oh, yeah to be that should be more. Clear
there should be different. Colors it should be, like, yes
at this, exit there is this would be the exit
for this place or this place is at this exit
should be two very different, things very different.

Speaker 2 (01:48:43):
Colors it should be on the app BECAUSE i use
The Ways driving app AND i don't know why they
don't have those to where you can locate the side
off the highway kind of. Things by the, way when
we go To, illinois The brian urlocker because he's got
a hair. Piece now it's like every other billboard when
you go To. Illinois it's just fascinating to see ir.
Locker see that you can do LIKE i was bald
as a cue, ball and now all of a sudden

(01:49:03):
he's got great looking. Hair technology is, amazing all, Right Mojo.
Jojo best way to indoctrinate my six month old into
a true hatred Of michigan in the state Of. Ohio
we blew raspberries through the city and state as a.
Start you gotta start proof reading. These what does this?

Speaker 1 (01:49:22):
MEAN i don't. Know they blew raspberries. City, yeah she
just blew them out the. Window what the? Raspberries, oh?
RASPBERRY i don't know what a? Raspberry? Is it like
a fart a? Raspberry the fruit like The, NO i
don't think it's the. FRUIT i think this is like
a gross. Thing it's like a. Thing, oh hold, on
give you SOME i don't want. You don't look that, up,

(01:49:44):
Man i'm gonna do it and like, incognito all, right
raspberry is? Pouring what that?

Speaker 5 (01:49:51):
Is?

Speaker 1 (01:49:52):
YEAH i am? Cock OH i. See it means to
make a flatulent sounding noise at your lips and tongue
to express contempt or. Disapproval that's not. Yours, YEAH i
didn't know. That i've never heard of. That, yeah that's
that's SO i. WOULD i would say that's a pretty good.

(01:50:13):
Start it's not too, vile it. Doesn't you, know you're
just sort of expressing it without Being you're teaching your
young one not to do something, That like you can
never get that thirty seconds. Back, yeah but you, can you. Know,
yeah you don't want anything that's going to send it
to jail for seventy two. Days Mojo.

Speaker 2 (01:50:27):
Jojo does The belichick blow out drive him back to
THE nfl to go For shula's record or is he?
Cooked side note what an incredible hard knocks askue doc
this would? Be and From Scotty Green's El, camino who
looks more disinterested in what they are. Doing saban on
game day Or belichick Coaching North.

Speaker 1 (01:50:44):
CAROLINA i Think saban is sort of getting those, ropes
and it's weird to. See it's uh watching McAfee with
his cut off. Shirt, yeah it's The belichick looks he
just hates life, Period like all the. Time he looks
like he's aged even more in the last, year more
than have you ever dated a twenty four year? Old,
well it was twenty seven.

Speaker 2 (01:51:05):
Exactly you imagine doing it when you're seventy? Two, yeah holy,
shit what do you talk? About do you see the
balloons that his press are?

Speaker 1 (01:51:13):
Weird? Oh my child's birthday that Had Jordan hudson all over? That, Right, Hey,
Jordan jordan.

Speaker 4 (01:51:19):
Not talking about? This, no, no.

Speaker 2 (01:51:21):
Right Scotty green's El Camino. Rube who's? Weirder couch Or
Elon coucher ruined this already and it's. Couch that's What i'm.
Not you're weirder Than. Musk i'm not weird of. Them
you did, Too you'd said it nine questions. Ago you
just threw it in there now it's not worth it.

Speaker 1 (01:51:37):
Now But i'm not weirder Than. Musk i'm a Weird you're.
WEIRDER i, mean no one gets away because he's so.

Speaker 2 (01:51:43):
Smart you can't stop that brain like you have no
excuse from some of your weird.

Speaker 1 (01:51:46):
Shit this man is trying to like sire children with
like thirty seven different women a. Month you, know he's
a weird. Dude he's a weird. Dude that is.

Speaker 2 (01:51:53):
Weird it's still not weirder than you Original Dark. Graham
have you ever been arrested and went through the whole?
Shebang putting, cuffs back of the police, car, fingerprinted putting
a cell, all all of. It don't recall you ever
telling a story of an.

Speaker 1 (01:52:09):
Occurrence unlike The rube, here if that were to happen to,
me it would not take to like episode one thousand
for me to tell that. Story we're telling presented By
Midtown Brewing. Company that's WHAT i used to.

Speaker 2 (01:52:19):
Say oh, YEAH i had the whole shebang. Happened, yeah now,
mom can you come pick me?

Speaker 1 (01:52:23):
Up the CLOSEST i CAME i when it was twenty
SIX i got pulled over In buffalo for what should
have been it could have been a. Dui and this
is before you. Know i'm using like map quest directions
to try and find my way back to the hotel And.
Thedweiser on the other, hand the LUCKILY i HAD i
had had a bit to drink, earlier but it had
what they call a garbage plate in Upstate New york

(01:52:45):
and hung out with my, cousin who was you, know
like twenty one at the, time going to The university Of.
Buffalo and, ANYWAY i WHEN i had to blow on the,
THING i fucked with it LIKE i blew like it.
Was it was not like they couldn't get a. Reading
and then the other thing that helped me IS i
have Like Barry sanders. Balance so even when they got

(01:53:07):
out of the, CAR i was great and they let me.
Go SO i was on THE i was. On so
that's your trick for getting out of A. DUI i
didn't know WHAT i was gonna. DO i was on the. Job,
TECHNICALLY i was up covering A Western Michigan buffalo. Game
it would not have, gone, well.

Speaker 2 (01:53:17):
Should you be admitting? This what's going on? Here we'll
fix this some posts statute limitations hoping so H T
bone's dad who was more likely to be first fired,
First belichick or De? Boor and how much Does bill's
crazy Boo Jordan hudson impact the?

Speaker 4 (01:53:32):
Line not talking about.

Speaker 1 (01:53:38):
Fired it would Be. DEBOR i don't think he'll be
fired during the, Season BUT I belichick walk, AWAY i
would pick, over you know WHAT i, Mean, like who
wasn't There belichick walking? AWAY i could see, Happening like
if it gets, bad bad, Bad but they're not gonna
fire them At North carolina during the. SEASON i don't
think it.

Speaker 2 (01:53:55):
Would be one of those Mutual, Yeah bill's decided to
spend time with his Face emily and bullshit Lie Matty.
Bee can we Say kaylin de bor is? Overrated he's
twenty one and eleven at THE d one level Without Michael.
Pennix he's lost four games against unrank components already At,
alabama he points overrated does not mean, bad but he's
not a top ten.

Speaker 1 (01:54:16):
Coach, well the question Is kenny recruit and developed culture over.
Time he has not been places all that long at
the top. Level if you gave him a do, over
does he Leave, NO i mean you could still Leave.
Washington does he Pick? Alabama? NO i mean following in
the footsteps Of. Saban and you, know one of the
things that's interesting Is saban was already talking about one

(01:54:38):
of the reasons he wanted out is his players were,
changing the culture was, changing guys were coming in after
bowl game losses and asking about. Money so he wasn't
taking over exactly What saban left. Either he was taking
over a changing, program AND i think that's, tough and
maybe he's not built for. THAT i don't know if
he would have been great continuing it At. WASHINGTON i
would not have Left. Washington washington beautiful, campus beautiful. Stadium

(01:55:00):
living in The Pacific northwest ain't. Bad do you love The?
South though? Not destro wouldn't go To alabama for Any
i'd need like a person traveling air conditioner walking around
me at all, Time Matty.

Speaker 2 (01:55:13):
Bee If couch could only defend the honor of one
of the following choices the rest of his, life who
would it? Be Matt, Painter Alan, Haller Jay, johnson And
Doug wojick or his.

Speaker 1 (01:55:23):
Wife Or doug wojich wife or my? Wife oh, YEAH
i would defend the honor of my. Wife that would
Be that would be? It one of the Following why
would you? Not you would you not? Defend will? You
you picked? Therees over who? Over? Anybody defend? Her? Yeah over?
Who Over Matt, Painter Alan, HALLER J? Johnson, yeah, yeah, Right, okay, Yeah,

(01:55:45):
yeah that's. It that's for.

Speaker 2 (01:55:46):
You that's a question for, you right, WELL i mean
make it towards me AND i don't, know, okay would it? Be,
yeah it doesn't defend me Very Carmen. Electra i'm Defending
Carmen electra too and my wife both.

Speaker 1 (01:55:58):
Together you know WHAT i?

Speaker 2 (01:55:59):
Mean?

Speaker 1 (01:56:00):
That good luck tonight. Man, yeah, Thanks steve with a?

Speaker 2 (01:56:05):
Coke can you tell us more about these ads calling
for a change to The Sports Broadcasting act of nineteen sixty.
One that's the show that's coming up next. Her, yeah That's. Ebbling,
yeah it's actually changed the name of his show To
Sports Broadcasting act of nineteen sixty one With Jack.

Speaker 1 (01:56:24):
EBLING i don't know what this, is But jack will
answer your. Question please tell me. More, No, steve.

Speaker 2 (01:56:35):
Appreciate your soccer, Enthusiasm.

Speaker 1 (01:56:38):
Glad goohy stay really that's the.

Speaker 2 (01:56:43):
Question after that stayed With palace as. Well do you
think that The Premier league would be better without Var
vares decision Against fulham was?

Speaker 1 (01:56:52):
ATROCIOUS i do. NOT i just don't understand why it messes.
Up this is the replay for people don't know it
and there shouldn't be situations where var can correct LIKE i,
Mean Aston. Villa if it wasn't If var should have
been able to help them be in Champions. Legue they
had a ruling go against them last year that's affected
their whole summer and the vibes there and. Everything but,
no you need it because otherwise guys would flop to no.

(01:57:14):
Degree you'd get dumb handball calls and a sport where
one or two goals decides a. Game you Need Var Jake.

Speaker 2 (01:57:19):
Hawkins some people are saying not Only saturday night's game
is a must, win but also IF msu, loses Coach
smith will lose most of the fan, base so he
might as well pack up and go back to The West.

Speaker 1 (01:57:30):
Coast thoughts he'll lose him. Temporarily now he can get
them back by winning AT. Usc but, yeah the next
week would be would be it'd be a rough couple of.
Weeks the vibe would not be the vibe would not
be great if they lose this, game it just won't.
Be and because they need they you, know not Since
iowa has there been a real promising. Moment then you
get the first half and there's a little bit of,
that but then you get the second half of The
Western michigan, game so like they need, this they need this.

Speaker 2 (01:57:53):
Badly next one from The. Hawk do you Think Jordan.
Hudson Jordan hudson had any say In North carolina's game
and that's Why monday's game fizzled out out of control
For Bill belichick to allow forty eight.

Speaker 1 (01:58:05):
Points she went with the prevent. Defense she's, LIKE i
THINK i got. Something, hey CAN i call it? Play? Yeah,
yeah The.

Speaker 2 (01:58:14):
Hawk what do you think of the recent news that
THE La clippers Owner Steve balmer set up a no
show job to Pay Kawhi. Leonard this is.

Speaker 1 (01:58:20):
Fascinating this Is Pablo torre's, reporting and it'll be interesting
to see where this goes because this. Happened the closest
thing to this happening was The Minnesota timberwolves With Joe
smith and it was what five first round draft? Picks
oh my. God, Yeah, so like the penalty of this
is true will be severe AND i. DON'T i. DON'T i,
Mean i'm surprised it doesn't happen more. Often IF i

(01:58:40):
were an, OWNER i would circumvent the star cap all
the time to pay.

Speaker 2 (01:58:43):
Guys balmer has too much, Money like someone's gonna go
down for it Not, Balmer yeah, right he just he
just created that new stadium like it's gonna be interesting
because this is the.

Speaker 1 (01:58:53):
Subsquent whatever the problem, is this is in the collective barning.
Agreement that's what they've been doing. This and have they
made the jokes About kawhi not no show and getting paid?
Figure that was On?

Speaker 2 (01:59:03):
Twitter Uh and finally from The hawk now that THE
Nfl Red zone will have full on, commercials which is such.
Bullshit oh, caps are you more likely not to watch it?

Speaker 1 (01:59:14):
Again what are you gonna do with the Red?

Speaker 2 (01:59:15):
ZONE i am, watching. Dude, listen they have. Me if
you guys want to, PROTEST i want to get behind.
IT i just don't HAVE i, CANNOT i do not
have the willpower to not watch. Football So i'm. Out
i'm not your. Guy you need. Right i'm an old.
Soldier leave me. Alone i'm gonna.

Speaker 1 (01:59:31):
Die come stand with me watching you guys go fight
this fucking battle Because i'm behind. You you're gonna have my.
Support i'm just gonna be sitting there watching the commercials on.

Speaker 2 (01:59:39):
Red zone like an. Asshole i'm with. You it's it's
it was the last. Thing WHEN i heard the, NEWS
i was really like bummed out BECAUSE i was, like
we had one thing left that they couldn't squeeze the
tit out.

Speaker 1 (01:59:52):
Of, yeah it's like. Unbelievable we appreciate all of. You
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