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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in former BA
great and Super Bowl champion Brady Papina to discuss the
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victory over to.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The U of A Wildcats. Be pop. How is your weekend?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It was excellent. There's like a like a like you'd mentioned,
it's topped off by the by U in Victorian like
afford to transpitioning into rivalry week.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, at six and oh back to back seasons under
Kalani Sitake. This has never been done in BYU football history.
When you when you hear that stat and it coming
within a P four schedule, right, Uh, what's your reaction?
I mean, this has never been done in BA footballzterers,
even going into the seventies and eighties, the glory or
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of BYU football, they have not been able to go
back to back.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Seasons going six and oh to start the season.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, well, I mean it makes sense, It's what I've
been seeing over the last three year years as DYU
is assented in the P four world lobehole, I think
independent and anything that happened before that prepared us to
survive and thrive in a P four world where we're
able to pay guys, We're able to go out and
build and accumulate one of the best coaching staff, so
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you can imagine. I mean, I wish I could pull
back some of these soundbites that I had three years
ago when they went five to seven where I was
embedded with them, and I was like, man, this coaching staff,
no egos, locked in a lot of cohesion, and it's
just I was thinking, man, it's a matter of time
that they're going to be able to figure this out,
get the right players in here the lobhole. That second year,
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we see some players evolve and ascend, we see some
new players, and then this year, like we were talking
about during the training camp, I've never seen a DYE
team as talented on all three levels and also in
our depth, and I think that was tested and they
passed the test very well. Kafusie number eight teams specifically
against U of A where we didn't have Jack Kelly playing,
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but man Kafusi was lights out and then sixty four
us Sarah that they probably deserves the MVP at the defense,
but the deal was all over the field and it
was that to me, is the most oppressive part of
about it is our depths and also our top of
our talent, and that should be the result. You know,
when you when you have that kind of coaching staff, team,
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the investment in development, the ability to develop guys, this
is what happens. You have historical things happen, and A
was only going to continue to see historical things happen
because right now BYU sports in general, YU football specifically,
is that levels that we've never seen before in the
history of BUYU and that the rector now is reflecting that.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Let's discuss this BYU victory. I mean, they were up
fourteen to zero before the uh the storm break, you know,
Hurricane Priscilla coming in. There was a thunderstorm and moisture
and man, he was delayed one and a half two
hours before.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
They got into the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You have, they roared back and had twenty four unanswered
points before midway through the fourth quarter when BYU's offense
came alive again and they they got the dub and
doublet uh. Let's break this game down. What did you see?
What did you like? What did you dislike?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well overall, I mean it's a very challenging thing to
going to going to the road in a in a
conference game on a team that's rolling like you have
the will, so that that's your first challenge already there boom,
then you got the weather's a lay. People don't realize
that your body as a football player, Ben you know
this your condition to basically ramp up, go play and
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perform and then calm down. It is not in the
routine to ramp up, go perform, calm down, ramp up again,
go That is that extra ramping up is not there,
and so you could see that. I mean that to
me is a huge challenge to have to overcome. And
granted both teams had to go through it, but the
fact that you're by here, you're on the road, unfamiliarity.
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I do believe it affected by us offense more than
it effected anything. It's because they were in rhythm, they
were in flow, and then it kind of chopped them
up a little bit. And then you got to get
the credit to you know, Arizona too, they kind of
got into the flow and uh, but you know you
have to anticipate it. All of Arizona's going to make
that run. And then there were some unfortunate calls that
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went against Bye might supposed specifically to one of Isaiah Glaska.
I mean, we had him in a first twenty five
and the next play he gets this ghost you know,
roughing call, which the refs would probably admit it to
it too that the ramping up, stopping and ramping up
probably affects them because the mechanics on that play. I
hope everybody understands that if there's any question of roughing
the passer and there's targeting associated with it, you don't
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throw the flag because you know you're going to be
able to on the back end go review that and
if there is targeting, then throw the flag. The problem
is you throw the flag and you get it wrong
like that ref did. After the video reviews, you can't
pick up the flat, so these reven crews have to
go over that again. Like, look, if there's any question
of the roughing the pass or with target getting, don't
call rough in the passer. Let's let the video evidence
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guide us there and then we'll drop the flag if
the fact that targeting, and then you know, give out
the appropriate penalties and punishments. Right, and so that was
against them, and then the fact that they're down two scores.
Our offense really hasn't been an explosive offense. And then
lo and behold, you know what they figured out. I mean,
that's that's special, man Like. It's hard to say that's
a negative because I don't believe it was self induced.
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The interceptions I thought were aggressive throws by Bear. That yeah,
he underthrew them both. One was a little inside the
first interception, the other one he grossly underthrew the tight end.
But you know what, they're aggressive throws. I don't see
them as being reckless at all, and so I don't
I don't Outside of Bear's fumble and fortunately we got
it back, I didn't really see much self afflicted you know,
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things happening that really put us in that position. I
think Arizona's good. I think the circumstances were tough, our
guys responded, and I think that was one of the
best victories in the history bore you football, by the way,
based off of all those challenges and circumstances and surprises
and things that they had to deal with, and they
still found a way to win.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You mentioned the fumble by Bear and the subsequent recovery.
How about Kyle super choke. I don't think that ball
was in his hands when he went into the pile,
but somehow someway in the muck of it all in the.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Scrum, he was able to.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Take it away and h and retain the football for
BYU and pick up the first down at the same time.
How about the real MVP Kyle Surferick show.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, I mean that's you know obviously that that's not
one play, But man, I mean I look at it.
An offensive line, by the way, kicked ass the whole
game's they were throwing around. Arizona's pretty good front that
you know, Arizona's front. If you had to rate him
out of a ten, they're an eight and a half.
They're pretty darn good. And our guys were I mean,
(07:55):
I just I can't say enough good about our offensive
lineman guys and our defense. Again, they are defensive front guys.
They're what I because what I love about them is
their mentality is a scrappy mentality. But these are big,
physically imposing offensive climen. You know what I'm saying, You
got to get Coach Woods a ton of gret able
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to ingrain in these guys. That mentality is kind of
being like the underdogs scrapper, but they combo that. Look
at their size and their ability to deliver the you know,
these big blows because they are so powerful, and the
same with their defensive front guys. But you know, I've
always talked about you always kind of associate these bigger
guys of not having the best of voters. But Kirklin,
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you know, J T. Tonavassa, some of our I mean,
those guys in there, man, they are you know Beeley
and and you can go down the whole list body.
You're all those big and chierior guys, both offensive and defensively. Man,
they just play with a high motor, excellent effort from
the start to the finish. And it's it's like I said,
it reminds me of like the old like New Mexico
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defense is that they were always really shorthanded in terms
of talent, but because the Bronco's ability to inspire them,
just played probably twice as good as their talent. You know,
and so and I, and you can almost start going
in almost every position group. But it's just impressive to
see that with those big guys, because they're not compelled
to be that way, if you know what I mean.
They're they're they're they're choosing to be that way, and
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they're they're they're God has been huge, and especially it
was huge, you know, the tight end of the fourth
quarter where there was no roof air and and you
hit them on the head their ability to because a
lot of times the people don't realize is just as
it is important on the defensive side of the ball
to pursue the ball because this could happen. The guy
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could fumble, or you don't get to the guy down
to the ground and you need help to get unto
the ground. On the offensive side, it's just as important
for the offensive lineman to pursue the ball for that
exact reason, in case the ball spurts out or you
got to kind of push guys forward, whatever it is.
And our guys do that constantly. So that extra effort
had been on the displayed throughout the whole game, and
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then that ended up being where it really was important
to retain possession as we were on the brink of
of scoring there. So you just can't say enough good
about our interior or our whole offensive line, a defensive
liance up until this point, and they're going to be
needed again this week to continue to play it.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
As you mentioned, Sarah Brady, and with Isaiah Glasger being injured,
I mean, he was notn one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
He was out there doing his best.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Jack Kelly sitting Sally just stepped up sixteen total tackles,
six solo, a half TfL and a past defended. Let's
elaborate a little bit more on what he was doing defensively.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, and I want everybody to know I've been like,
you know, I have inside information about it, Sarah, and
quite frankly, at the beginning of the year, I think
he was overthinking things. He was experienced, and this is
very common for young players. There's this paralysis by over
analysis and they're you know, it's kind of like you
don't booze and the play happens and you know, justin
(11:06):
and it did such a job, just a strong job
with him and just working with and being patient. You
hear like after practice I was when I was here,
I hear Justich go up and talk to him like, hey, man,
just keep with it, you know, don't think you can't
and you can't just turn your brain off of this defense.
There's a lot of layers to it. And the light
bulb turned on for him against Arizona. Man, he was
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not just the tackling machine. Like there's guys that get
a bunch of tackles, right they're like, oh wow, he
had sixteen docs. This dude was flying around like a
heat seeking missile all over the place. I mean, he's
a guy where if you just turn on the tape
and you just sit back and you're just like, Okay,
I'm gonna just look at this from a very macro
like kind of a dist interview, and I'm just gonna
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see who's playing at a different speed, Who's all over
the place? That number five to four was all over
the place, man all over silight of the sidelight, in
coverage against the past in the I mean, it was
a beautiful thing to see for him so or finally,
and I mean that's why I think everybody is expected
out of him, to finally see him just explode and
come out of his growing phase. And now he's in
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a phase where he can be an absolute game changer,
a guy who really kills the game in your favor
as long as he continues to play that way. And
so and you know, there's unfortunately he missed the tackle
on that long run there for a olla that short
yardage play. But I mean there was other plays, tons
of others where he made that same tackle, and so
I think my point of bringing that up is that's
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that's how good he was. There's not a lot of
those tackles broke out, but that's kind of sometimes the
position he's put into where he's got to make the
player else plays out, you know. And so he did
a phenomenal job. I have to say, he's, like I
said to me, he's the MVP of the defense in
that game, because like you said, if you bring you know,
Jack Kelly's out, you know, Glaskar is a little banged up,
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and we need somebody off the ball just just to
fill because like I said, our defensively for the most part,
absolutely dismantles, you know, and they were doing it there
is on it dismantling their offensive front. I don't know
if you guys caught the play where there is a
power play and Logan absolutely literally Ko ko talk the
dude out to where he's out of the game, their
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offside guard because he hit them right under the chin
and just blocked them out. Which that's what you want. Sorry,
ladies and gentlemen. This is a violent game. And by
the way, Bogland did it with all the love, all
the passion that you'd never want somebody to deal with.
And so I mean that to me is like a
beautiful thing. And when you get that happening up front,
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where you get Jake taking on two blocks, you get
you know, all the other guys kurkling, just penetrating and handling,
you know, the pressure where you're you're making the quarterback
step back or you make that running back change, change
speed and after shoveler feet, then you get the off
the ball guys sitting accordingly, it becomes a beautiful thing. Now,
they weren't perfect, but you saw glimpses there where they
can just choke the defense or excuse me, choking offense
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out and absolutely take over a game regardless of what
offense does. And that's means a beautiful thing. And they're
just starting to get a feel for that and if
we can get more consistent there, this defense could really
be special. And obviously we get guys back with Jack
and so on and so forth. But yeah, Sarah really
elevating his game and coming out of that kind of
growth phase down into the we're going to affect the
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game phase. That's a big time for us, and I
thought that was the day he did it. Hopefully that
continues into next week.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
kPa or sorry Brady Papinka Here on ESPN the fan
talking BYU versus U of a Keanu Tonavasa gets ejected
in this game due to targeting.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I've had to field some questions about Keanu.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Some people feel like, hey, is Keanu living up to
the hype that has that surrounded him. I'm like, look,
in tier, defensive linemen are unsung heroes. You have to
really evaluate the line of scrimmage weekend and week out.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
This is rivalry week.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I imagine Keanu is going to have his best week of
practice and his best game of the season. But evaluate
Keanu's play thus far the year and what his potential
is in a rivalry week Holy War week.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I'll give you two things that being very aware of.
First is his presidence alone has created a toughness, a
level of motor that these and tier guys have all
responded to. Like I think JT, especially the presence of Tonavasa,
has made JT a better player. JT right now is
playing out of his mind and a lot of people
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in you understand, Like so as I mentioned about A. Sarah,
how he was kind of figuring things out for the
first two games and finally light bulb turned on yesterday,
excuse me on Saturday. It's hard to tell a lot
of times because you're not getting your backtors feeling correctly,
which we've had issues with that, then you're not going
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to really notice what those defensive linemen are doing up
from I'm gonna tell you this, when you turned on
the film and you see a ton of astin there,
he's the ninety four, you see fifty five JT and Kirkland.
Now that he's come back, we create problems for every
offenseive line. They can't move us. We take on two dudes.
There was one play we took on three gaps, three dudes. Yeah,
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I think it was JT took on three dudes. It
ended up being a kind of a rough place for
us because we didn't get some good off the ball fit,
but it's like what else do you want from these
guys to do? You know? And then they're pushing the
pocket in the pass game, you know. And so I
mean it's he's been as advertised kind of offer has
and I think he's been even more so than just
his stats on the field, there is even his presence
on the field in terms of his production. He's influencing
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guys around him to play better. We've had we haven't
had an interior front play as well as they are
right now in the history view or your football just
so everybody can kind of put that into perspective. So, yeah,
he's he's been more than worth it. This guy's special
and I'm really excited to see him play against his
former teammates.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Offensively, Bear had to tote the ball twenty two times
in order to get this victory. Some people, you know,
they were they were thinking, hey, like eventually we got
to find an RB too. It's working. The rush games
were that was a stingy you of a defense. I
think the most they had given up all season was
I believe one hundred and sixteen yards on the ground.
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B Why you put up two hundred and sixty.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think you got to do whatever
you got to do, you know, And I think Roderick
knows that, and Bear understands that. Bear's tough man. I
mean his ability to accelerate, change the direction, and then
is I just think the overall girth of his body
is hard and people don't understand that. Like I don't
know if you guys remember Betterroethlisberger, but he was one
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of the toughest guys to sack. And the reason is
is because when you had his flapjacket on, which protects
his rids, with already his big you know, kind of
like barrel body, you can't wrap your arms around him.
That's a tough guy to bring down. And the Bears
got that from foot to his head to toe. And
so I mean you saw on both of those touchdown runs.
Is that the one to steal the game? And then
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also one there at the end that if you're coming
in from the side as a defender, you really are
going to have aime getting him down. You have to
butt him up straight on to have a chance to
slow his momento at if not, he's gonna run right
through your tackle and I mean, if you look at
the last couple of weeks, he he six guys missed
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on a few runs that are really good tacklers otherwise
just because of his lower body strength to girl, So
I don't know why you you know, I'm about twenty
three is fine? That guy is made to pound the ball.
I mean he is Tim Tebow on steroids. I mean
except yeah, but I think Tim Tebow can pass better,
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you know, because he's very very similar skill set, except
he's a better passer. You know, He's not Taysom Hill
that I takem Hills the superhero. I don't think anybody's
gonna be like Jayson Hill. But man, Tim people, I
think lower body stuff to bring down. And like I said,
if you have to run him twenty times to win
a game, you're gonna do that. He's He's more than capable.
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And I got to say this, man, at that last
touchdown run that we had with him to win the game,
you got to give Roderick a lot of credit. I
hope everybody, if you could look at the twenty two
or go back on your you know, whatever TV service
you use and watch this play, I want you to
know something from the offensive perspective that free wide receivers
out to the left. Okay, you was in ban demand.
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They motioned out to where there's now a four receiver
side and on the backside where they run the ball.
Guess what, it was completely vacated. That wasn't by accident,
and there was pretty much only one guy who was there.
One guy, and he did not have an angle. That
was Paul Roderick setting that up with the trips to
the left posting out of LJ and he knew, man,
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if we could run on the backside, we got numbers,
we got more blockers base well, we got a blocker
for each defender plus there and that was the reason
why he got in the end though. So I mean
you can't just you know, players make plays. But also, man,
you got to give credit to these coaches for putting
these guys in position and setting them up for success,
which Broderick did on that last play.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, you've made some declarative statements about a Rod this season.
I stated preseason, this is the year that a Rod
proves to everyone that he is a phenomenal play caller.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
He's got a true freshman quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
He lost his red shirt senior quarterback right before kickoff
of the season. He didn't even get a spring ball
with his quarterback, and now look at what he's doing
with a true freshman quarterback.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Crazy, crazy, It's just mind blowing. It doesn't happen. Ladies
and gentlemen, all that can hear my voice, This is
an anomaly. This does not happen. If you want to
know how it looks, go look at Michigan, Go look
at other schools who have had true freshman start even
us at you are, you've never seen this, And you
(20:55):
bring up such a valid point. There's no springball, very
limited time after the spring boath to do much because
of the restrictions at the NCAA puts on these guys
and the coaching, and then in training camp you're you're
kind of having a competition to start off the first
couple of weeks, so he's not getting the full reps
with the first team. And now you go out there
(21:15):
with P four schedule and you have him in two
scenarios and two very difficult places to play, in Colorado
and in Arizona. But two good teams. Calade is a
good team. I mean they just beat I was excuse me,
uh I was stay yeah at beet Iowa State and
they're down, and yet they find he helps lead the
comeback to win both those games with both his arm
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and his legs. Because he can't forgive out his arm
then he just can't. I don't. I don't know if
you remember that fourth and seventh play. Can I I'm
gonna describe that fourth and seventh player for everybody. You're
on the right hash. Remember in college football, hash marks
are wider, okay, so you're on the right hash. There
was a route by h I believe it was Parker,
and he just ran a real quick butt took and
this was a timing butt hook for out. The defense
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for U of A was in a cover three, so
you got a corner on the top of Parker. You
have a curl the flat fender that is buzzing or
trying to get underneath that out or or that butt
took by Parker. Bear throws from the opposite hash over
the top the undercover curl of flat defender in front
of the third defender right to the chest the Parker
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first hand. And if you look at because on the
twenty two, which I get, if you can see the
reaction of Arizona, and they were just like boldy crack.
Their whole sideline was like petrified, Like what just what
I mean that throw is I don't care who you are.
That is a phenomenal throw and that's critical, that's forts,
that's the game. And you know so, I mean, everybody's
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talking about Bear's feet, but no, his arm was just
as impressive, and especially when it mattered both.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
Brady butpinga ladies and gentlemen of breaking it all down. Brady,
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Speaker 3 (24:39):
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Speaker 1 (24:43):
Oh yeah, Goku is going to be a fun week
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let's get out to the hotline. Welcome in former BA
great and Super Bowl champion Brady Papina to discuss the
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victory over to.
Speaker 2 (01:13):
The U of A Wildcats. Be pop. How is your weekend?
Speaker 1 (01:17):
It was excellent. There's like a like a like you'd mentioned,
it's topped off by the by U in Victorian like
afford to transpitioning into rivalry week.
Speaker 3 (01:27):
Yeah, at six and oh back to back seasons under
Kalani Sitake. This has never been done in BYU football history.
When you when you hear that stat and it coming
within a P four schedule, right, Uh, what's your reaction?
I mean, this has never been done in BA footballzterers,
even going into the seventies and eighties, the glory or
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of BYU football, they have not been able to go
back to back.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Seasons going six and oh to start the season.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Yeah, well, I mean it makes sense, It's what I've
been seeing over the last three year years as DYU
is assented in the P four world lobehole, I think
independent and anything that happened before that prepared us to
survive and thrive in a P four world where we're
able to pay guys, We're able to go out and
build and accumulate one of the best coaching staff, so
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you can imagine. I mean, I wish I could pull
back some of these soundbites that I had three years
ago when they went five to seven where I was
embedded with them, and I was like, man, this coaching staff,
no egos, locked in a lot of cohesion, and it's
just I was thinking, man, it's a matter of time
that they're going to be able to figure this out,
get the right players in here the lobhole. That second year,
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we see some players evolve and ascend, we see some
new players, and then this year, like we were talking
about during the training camp, I've never seen a DYE
team as talented on all three levels and also in
our depth, and I think that was tested and they
passed the test very well. Kafusie number eight teams specifically
against U of A where we didn't have Jack Kelly playing,
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but man Kafusi was lights out and then sixty four
us Sarah that they probably deserves the MVP at the defense,
but the deal was all over the field and it
was that to me, is the most oppressive part of
about it is our depths and also our top of
our talent, and that should be the result. You know,
when you when you have that kind of coaching staff, team,
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the investment in development, the ability to develop guys, this
is what happens. You have historical things happen, and A
was only going to continue to see historical things happen
because right now BYU sports in general, YU football specifically,
is that levels that we've never seen before in the
history of BUYU and that the rector now is reflecting that.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
Let's discuss this BYU victory. I mean, they were up
fourteen to zero before the uh the storm break, you know,
Hurricane Priscilla coming in. There was a thunderstorm and moisture
and man, he was delayed one and a half two
hours before.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
They got into the second quarter.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
You have, they roared back and had twenty four unanswered
points before midway through the fourth quarter when BYU's offense
came alive again and they they got the dub and
doublet uh. Let's break this game down. What did you see?
What did you like? What did you dislike?
Speaker 1 (04:16):
Well overall, I mean it's a very challenging thing to
going to going to the road in a in a
conference game on a team that's rolling like you have
the will, so that that's your first challenge already there boom,
then you got the weather's a lay. People don't realize
that your body as a football player, Ben you know
this your condition to basically ramp up, go play and
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perform and then calm down. It is not in the
routine to ramp up, go perform, calm down, ramp up again,
go That is that extra ramping up is not there,
and so you could see that. I mean that to
me is a huge challenge to have to overcome. And
granted both teams had to go through it, but the
fact that you're by here, you're on the road, unfamiliarity.
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I do believe it affected by us offense more than
it effected anything. It's because they were in rhythm, they
were in flow, and then it kind of chopped them
up a little bit. And then you got to get
the credit to you know, Arizona too, they kind of
got into the flow and uh, but you know you
have to anticipate it. All of Arizona's going to make
that run. And then there were some unfortunate calls that
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went against Bye might supposed specifically to one of Isaiah Glaska.
I mean, we had him in a first twenty five
and the next play he gets this ghost you know,
roughing call, which the refs would probably admit it to
it too that the ramping up, stopping and ramping up
probably affects them because the mechanics on that play. I
hope everybody understands that if there's any question of roughing
the passer and there's targeting associated with it, you don't
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throw the flag because you know you're going to be
able to on the back end go review that and
if there is targeting, then throw the flag. The problem
is you throw the flag and you get it wrong
like that ref did. After the video reviews, you can't
pick up the flat, so these reven crews have to
go over that again. Like, look, if there's any question
of the roughing the pass or with target getting, don't
call rough in the passer. Let's let the video evidence
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guide us there and then we'll drop the flag if
the fact that targeting, and then you know, give out
the appropriate penalties and punishments. Right, and so that was
against them, and then the fact that they're down two scores.
Our offense really hasn't been an explosive offense. And then
lo and behold, you know what they figured out. I mean,
that's that's special, man Like. It's hard to say that's
a negative because I don't believe it was self induced.
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The interceptions I thought were aggressive throws by Bear. That yeah,
he underthrew them both. One was a little inside the
first interception, the other one he grossly underthrew the tight end.
But you know what, they're aggressive throws. I don't see
them as being reckless at all, and so I don't
I don't Outside of Bear's fumble and fortunately we got
it back, I didn't really see much self afflicted you know,
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things happening that really put us in that position. I
think Arizona's good. I think the circumstances were tough, our
guys responded, and I think that was one of the
best victories in the history bore you football, by the way,
based off of all those challenges and circumstances and surprises
and things that they had to deal with, and they
still found a way to win.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
You mentioned the fumble by Bear and the subsequent recovery.
How about Kyle super choke. I don't think that ball
was in his hands when he went into the pile,
but somehow someway in the muck of it all in the.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Scrum, he was able to.
Speaker 3 (07:22):
Take it away and h and retain the football for
BYU and pick up the first down at the same time.
How about the real MVP Kyle Surferick show.
Speaker 1 (07:35):
Well, I mean that's you know obviously that that's not
one play, But man, I mean I look at it.
An offensive line, by the way, kicked ass the whole
game's they were throwing around. Arizona's pretty good front that
you know, Arizona's front. If you had to rate him
out of a ten, they're an eight and a half.
They're pretty darn good. And our guys were I mean,
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I just I can't say enough good about our offensive
lineman guys and our defense. Again, they are defensive front guys.
They're what I because what I love about them is
their mentality is a scrappy mentality. But these are big,
physically imposing offensive climen. You know what I'm saying, You
got to get Coach Woods a ton of gret able
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to ingrain in these guys. That mentality is kind of
being like the underdogs scrapper, but they combo that. Look
at their size and their ability to deliver the you know,
these big blows because they are so powerful, and the
same with their defensive front guys. But you know, I've
always talked about you always kind of associate these bigger
guys of not having the best of voters. But Kirklin,
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you know, J T. Tonavassa, some of our I mean,
those guys in there, man, they are you know Beeley
and and you can go down the whole list body.
You're all those big and chierior guys, both offensive and defensively. Man,
they just play with a high motor, excellent effort from
the start to the finish. And it's it's like I said,
it reminds me of like the old like New Mexico
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defense is that they were always really shorthanded in terms
of talent, but because the Bronco's ability to inspire them,
just played probably twice as good as their talent. You know,
and so and I, and you can almost start going
in almost every position group. But it's just impressive to
see that with those big guys, because they're not compelled
to be that way, if you know what I mean.
They're they're they're they're choosing to be that way, and
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they're they're they're God has been huge, and especially it
was huge, you know, the tight end of the fourth
quarter where there was no roof air and and you
hit them on the head their ability to because a
lot of times the people don't realize is just as
it is important on the defensive side of the ball
to pursue the ball because this could happen. The guy
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could fumble, or you don't get to the guy down
to the ground and you need help to get unto
the ground. On the offensive side, it's just as important
for the offensive lineman to pursue the ball for that
exact reason, in case the ball spurts out or you
got to kind of push guys forward, whatever it is.
And our guys do that constantly. So that extra effort
had been on the displayed throughout the whole game, and
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then that ended up being where it really was important
to retain possession as we were on the brink of
of scoring there. So you just can't say enough good
about our interior or our whole offensive line, a defensive
liance up until this point, and they're going to be
needed again this week to continue to play it.
Speaker 3 (10:18):
As you mentioned, Sarah Brady, and with Isaiah Glasger being injured,
I mean, he was notn one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
He was out there doing his best.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Jack Kelly sitting Sally just stepped up sixteen total tackles,
six solo, a half TfL and a past defended. Let's
elaborate a little bit more on what he was doing defensively.
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Yeah, and I want everybody to know I've been like,
you know, I have inside information about it, Sarah, and
quite frankly, at the beginning of the year, I think
he was overthinking things. He was experienced, and this is
very common for young players. There's this paralysis by over
analysis and they're you know, it's kind of like you
don't booze and the play happens and you know, justin
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and it did such a job, just a strong job
with him and just working with and being patient. You
hear like after practice I was when I was here,
I hear Justich go up and talk to him like, hey, man,
just keep with it, you know, don't think you can't
and you can't just turn your brain off of this defense.
There's a lot of layers to it. And the light
bulb turned on for him against Arizona. Man, he was
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not just the tackling machine. Like there's guys that get
a bunch of tackles, right they're like, oh wow, he
had sixteen docs. This dude was flying around like a
heat seeking missile all over the place. I mean, he's
a guy where if you just turn on the tape
and you just sit back and you're just like, Okay,
I'm gonna just look at this from a very macro
like kind of a dist interview, and I'm just gonna
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see who's playing at a different speed, Who's all over
the place? That number five to four was all over
the place, man all over silight of the sidelight, in
coverage against the past in the I mean, it was
a beautiful thing to see for him so or finally,
and I mean that's why I think everybody is expected
out of him, to finally see him just explode and
come out of his growing phase. And now he's in
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a phase where he can be an absolute game changer,
a guy who really kills the game in your favor
as long as he continues to play that way. And
so and you know, there's unfortunately he missed the tackle
on that long run there for a olla that short
yardage play. But I mean there was other plays, tons
of others where he made that same tackle, and so
I think my point of bringing that up is that's
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that's how good he was. There's not a lot of
those tackles broke out, but that's kind of sometimes the
position he's put into where he's got to make the
player else plays out, you know. And so he did
a phenomenal job. I have to say, he's, like I
said to me, he's the MVP of the defense in
that game, because like you said, if you bring you know,
Jack Kelly's out, you know, Glaskar is a little banged up,
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and we need somebody off the ball just just to
fill because like I said, our defensively for the most part,
absolutely dismantles, you know, and they were doing it there
is on it dismantling their offensive front. I don't know
if you guys caught the play where there is a
power play and Logan absolutely literally Ko ko talk the
dude out to where he's out of the game, their
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offside guard because he hit them right under the chin
and just blocked them out. Which that's what you want. Sorry,
ladies and gentlemen. This is a violent game. And by
the way, Bogland did it with all the love, all
the passion that you'd never want somebody to deal with.
And so I mean that to me is like a
beautiful thing. And when you get that happening up front,
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where you get Jake taking on two blocks, you get
you know, all the other guys kurkling, just penetrating and handling,
you know, the pressure where you're you're making the quarterback
step back or you make that running back change, change
speed and after shoveler feet, then you get the off
the ball guys sitting accordingly, it becomes a beautiful thing. Now,
they weren't perfect, but you saw glimpses there where they
can just choke the defense or excuse me, choking offense
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out and absolutely take over a game regardless of what
offense does. And that's means a beautiful thing. And they're
just starting to get a feel for that and if
we can get more consistent there, this defense could really
be special. And obviously we get guys back with Jack
and so on and so forth. But yeah, Sarah really
elevating his game and coming out of that kind of
growth phase down into the we're going to affect the
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game phase. That's a big time for us, and I
thought that was the day he did it. Hopefully that
continues into next week.
Speaker 3 (14:23):
kPa or sorry Brady Papinka Here on ESPN the fan
talking BYU versus U of a Keanu Tonavasa gets ejected
in this game due to targeting.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
I've had to field some questions about Keanu.
Speaker 3 (14:37):
Some people feel like, hey, is Keanu living up to
the hype that has that surrounded him. I'm like, look,
in tier, defensive linemen are unsung heroes. You have to
really evaluate the line of scrimmage weekend and week out.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
This is rivalry week.
Speaker 3 (14:52):
I imagine Keanu is going to have his best week of
practice and his best game of the season. But evaluate
Keanu's play thus far the year and what his potential
is in a rivalry week Holy War week.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Yeah, I'll give you two things that being very aware of.
First is his presidence alone has created a toughness, a
level of motor that these and tier guys have all
responded to. Like I think JT, especially the presence of Tonavasa,
has made JT a better player. JT right now is
playing out of his mind and a lot of people
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in you understand, Like so as I mentioned about A. Sarah,
how he was kind of figuring things out for the
first two games and finally light bulb turned on yesterday,
excuse me on Saturday. It's hard to tell a lot
of times because you're not getting your backtors feeling correctly,
which we've had issues with that, then you're not going
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to really notice what those defensive linemen are doing up
from I'm gonna tell you this, when you turned on
the film and you see a ton of astin there,
he's the ninety four, you see fifty five JT and Kirkland.
Now that he's come back, we create problems for every
offenseive line. They can't move us. We take on two dudes.
There was one play we took on three gaps, three dudes. Yeah,
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I think it was JT took on three dudes. It
ended up being a kind of a rough place for
us because we didn't get some good off the ball fit,
but it's like what else do you want from these
guys to do? You know? And then they're pushing the
pocket in the pass game, you know. And so I
mean it's he's been as advertised kind of offer has
and I think he's been even more so than just
his stats on the field, there is even his presence
on the field in terms of his production. He's influencing
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guys around him to play better. We've had we haven't
had an interior front play as well as they are
right now in the history view or your football just
so everybody can kind of put that into perspective. So, yeah,
he's he's been more than worth it. This guy's special
and I'm really excited to see him play against his
former teammates.
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Offensively, Bear had to tote the ball twenty two times
in order to get this victory. Some people, you know,
they were they were thinking, hey, like eventually we got
to find an RB too. It's working. The rush games
were that was a stingy you of a defense. I
think the most they had given up all season was
I believe one hundred and sixteen yards on the ground.
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B Why you put up two hundred and sixty.
Speaker 1 (17:12):
Yeah, I mean, I think you got to do whatever
you got to do, you know, And I think Roderick
knows that, and Bear understands that. Bear's tough man. I
mean his ability to accelerate, change the direction, and then
is I just think the overall girth of his body
is hard and people don't understand that. Like I don't
know if you guys remember Betterroethlisberger, but he was one
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of the toughest guys to sack. And the reason is
is because when you had his flapjacket on, which protects
his rids, with already his big you know, kind of
like barrel body, you can't wrap your arms around him.
That's a tough guy to bring down. And the Bears
got that from foot to his head to toe. And
so I mean you saw on both of those touchdown runs.
Is that the one to steal the game? And then
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also one there at the end that if you're coming
in from the side as a defender, you really are
going to have aime getting him down. You have to
butt him up straight on to have a chance to
slow his momento at if not, he's gonna run right
through your tackle and I mean, if you look at
the last couple of weeks, he he six guys missed
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on a few runs that are really good tacklers otherwise
just because of his lower body strength to girl, So
I don't know why you you know, I'm about twenty
three is fine? That guy is made to pound the ball.
I mean he is Tim Tebow on steroids. I mean
except yeah, but I think Tim Tebow can pass better,
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you know, because he's very very similar skill set, except
he's a better passer. You know, He's not Taysom Hill
that I takem Hills the superhero. I don't think anybody's
gonna be like Jayson Hill. But man, Tim people, I
think lower body stuff to bring down. And like I said,
if you have to run him twenty times to win
a game, you're gonna do that. He's He's more than capable.
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And I got to say this, man, at that last
touchdown run that we had with him to win the game,
you got to give Roderick a lot of credit. I
hope everybody, if you could look at the twenty two
or go back on your you know, whatever TV service
you use and watch this play, I want you to
know something from the offensive perspective that free wide receivers
out to the left. Okay, you was in ban demand.
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They motioned out to where there's now a four receiver
side and on the backside where they run the ball.
Guess what, it was completely vacated. That wasn't by accident,
and there was pretty much only one guy who was there.
One guy, and he did not have an angle. That
was Paul Roderick setting that up with the trips to
the left posting out of LJ and he knew, man,
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if we could run on the backside, we got numbers,
we got more blockers base well, we got a blocker
for each defender plus there and that was the reason
why he got in the end though. So I mean
you can't just you know, players make plays. But also, man,
you got to give credit to these coaches for putting
these guys in position and setting them up for success,
which Broderick did on that last play.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
Yeah, you've made some declarative statements about a Rod this season.
I stated preseason, this is the year that a Rod
proves to everyone that he is a phenomenal play caller.
Speaker 2 (20:17):
He's got a true freshman quarterback.
Speaker 3 (20:19):
He lost his red shirt senior quarterback right before kickoff
of the season. He didn't even get a spring ball
with his quarterback, and now look at what he's doing
with a true freshman quarterback.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Crazy, crazy, It's just mind blowing. It doesn't happen. Ladies
and gentlemen, all that can hear my voice, This is
an anomaly. This does not happen. If you want to
know how it looks, go look at Michigan, Go look
at other schools who have had true freshman start even
us at you are, you've never seen this, And you
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bring up such a valid point. There's no springball, very
limited time after the spring boath to do much because
of the restrictions at the NCAA puts on these guys
and the coaching, and then in training camp you're you're
kind of having a competition to start off the first
couple of weeks, so he's not getting the full reps
with the first team. And now you go out there
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with P four schedule and you have him in two
scenarios and two very difficult places to play, in Colorado
and in Arizona. But two good teams. Calade is a
good team. I mean they just beat I was excuse me,
uh I was stay yeah at beet Iowa State and
they're down, and yet they find he helps lead the
comeback to win both those games with both his arm
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and his legs. Because he can't forgive out his arm
then he just can't. I don't. I don't know if
you remember that fourth and seventh play. Can I I'm
gonna describe that fourth and seventh player for everybody. You're
on the right hash. Remember in college football, hash marks
are wider, okay, so you're on the right hash. There
was a route by h I believe it was Parker,
and he just ran a real quick butt took and
this was a timing butt hook for out. The defense
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for U of A was in a cover three, so
you got a corner on the top of Parker. You
have a curl the flat fender that is buzzing or
trying to get underneath that out or or that butt
took by Parker. Bear throws from the opposite hash over
the top the undercover curl of flat defender in front
of the third defender right to the chest the Parker
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first hand. And if you look at because on the
twenty two, which I get, if you can see the
reaction of Arizona, and they were just like boldy crack.
Their whole sideline was like petrified, Like what just what
I mean that throw is I don't care who you are.
That is a phenomenal throw and that's critical, that's forts,
that's the game. And you know so, I mean, everybody's
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talking about Bear's feet, but no, his arm was just
as impressive, and especially when it mattered both.
Speaker 3 (22:55):
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Oh yeah, Goku is going to be a fun week
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