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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time to celebrate the previous team sport known to man,
where modern day gladiators collide for all the glory on
the grid. I let's talk some college football on Cougar
Sports with Ben Crittle.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
Welcome back Cougar Sports. One of three nine ninety eight
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(00:34):
time for little college football. Want to get into a
number of topics today. How about Bill Belichick calling the
unc exit rumors categorically falls. James Franklin, longtime Penn State coach,
one of the best in college football over the last decade,
has been dismissed, has been fired.

Speaker 1 (00:54):
Are you kidding me? And what's the next steps for
Penn State?

Speaker 2 (00:58):
Do they really think they can do better than James Franklin.

Speaker 1 (01:02):
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Speaker 1 (01:36):
Timmy, how you live in.

Speaker 3 (01:39):
Hey Man? Look one of the greatest weekends in college
BUYU great game, Utah dominating. Had some high school football
could have been a better, better weekend. We've never discussed this,
but I'm a bron Fow fan. We almost cropped the bed,
but we pulled it out. Life's good.

Speaker 2 (01:58):
I'm glad all is well in your world. Tim Brown,
our Gistic Steriors. What was the biggest win of the weekend?
Which was the What was the most exciting win of
the weekend? Would you say in the Brown home.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Well, I'll tell you what. I don't know about excitement,
but Utah just dominated. I mean I didn't think that
they would win the way they did they. I mean
they won from the snap to the end and just
absolutely for the stake. Now, what would it be like
with Sam Levitt, I don't know. All I know is
they looked good.

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, forty two to ten victory BYU got the victory
in enemy territory versus the U of A Wildcats, but
it took doublet and a nail bider grinded out kind
of a gritty game down in Tucson with a rain delay,
so it wasn't as impressive.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
But then again, you.

Speaker 2 (02:52):
Know, b B what you had to go against the
best quarterback in the Big twelve, arguably Noah Fafida at home.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Well, look in Arizona was a good team. I mean
they were four and one. You know, it's not like
they're a bad team. And it was there so, and
let's be honest, we didn't have our best defensive player.
You know, one of our other better defensive players got
kicked out for bow trap play. We almost lost our
best defensive player on one of the most ridiculous personal

(03:22):
felt calls I've ever seen in my life. I still
don't understand how a sack is a personal fel But look,
there were some things going against us, but at the
end of the day, it showed some grit. You know,
bar didn't play his best. He finally was that that
game I think we are all expecting with a couple
of picks, some poor decision making. But look, at the
end of the day, when it mattered, he said, give
me the ball and let me go score and let

(03:42):
me win this thing.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
And he did.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
He got the He got the win for the Kougs,
albeit with the help of his defense special teams.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
You know, what was the.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Most clutch play of this by u U of a game?

Speaker 1 (03:57):
What it was?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
It Kyle super choke recovering, recovering the football for a
first down, when Bear Bachmeyer's knocking on the door and fumbles.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
It was it.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Will Farron kicking the field goal a forty five yard
field goal in the first ot. Was it Bear Bachmeyer,
you know, faking the sprint out, tucking and running for
a touchdown? What was the most clutch play of the
by u U of a game?

Speaker 3 (04:22):
Well, I mean, I would love to say it was
Bear in that last touchdown just because that took a lot.
But then you got to give it credit to will
Fair and he had missed letter ear in the game
and then you know he makes it, they call time
out so he has to do it again, and I
mean those aren't easy, that kind of pressure, and you know,
nailed it, drilled it, and that was big. That was
really important to play.

Speaker 1 (04:41):
No doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
As we get prepped, get ready for the rivalry game,
Utah heading into enemy territory down at Level under the
lights of Level, this game will be played.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
I haven't looked at the forecast yet, hopefully it's good weather.

Speaker 2 (04:56):
But Utah a favorite, a three and a half point
favorite to open and you know that seemingly a toss
up game three and a half points, but being the
favorite on the road in enemy territory, this Utah team
is trending in the right direction.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
Well that's really I mean, let's be honest, because of
the home and that's always a three point So let's
really saying that Utah has a touchdowns favorite. You know,
that's really what they're what they're saying, what Vegas is saying.
So Vegas typically isn't wrong, but look, it's gonna be
a game like it always is. But right now, if
someone had to put a gun to my head, I mean,

(05:33):
Utah looks good. They look really really good. And I
think it really depends on our health of our defense.
Is readier to Mooney back? Is Jack Kelly back? What
do we look like? And if we're healthy, we got
a good shot.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
Let's talk about some of these other topics. It doesn't
seem like UNC is on the precipice of a buy
out with Bill Belichick. Belichick calls rumors of UNC exit
categorically falls.

Speaker 1 (06:01):
What's the likelihood.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
That Bill gets bought out in twenty twenty five in
your opinion? And they move on from the Belichick era
the mid season almost and maybe towards the end of
the season.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yell, I think it's way too early still. I mean,
we're only what six weeks in. There's still luck it happen.
So to me, it's much ado about nothing until I
get actual proof from one of them.

Speaker 1 (06:22):
I think, to me, it's nothing nothing. How about go ahead?
Nothing yet? Nothing yet, nothing yet, nothing yet?

Speaker 2 (06:30):
How about James Franklin being shown the door after being
one of the most consistent college football coaches in the
country over the last decade. Good decision, bad decision in
your opinion with the eighty and the university moving on
from the James Franklin.

Speaker 3 (06:46):
Era, Well, it really surprises me, one because of his contract,
and two in the middle of the year. Yes, they're
on a three game skid, but I mean three weeks
ago they were the number three team in the country
and so and maybe that's why they did let it
and go. But to me, I don't understand why you
fire a coach mids mid season like that unless something

(07:07):
else is going behind that we don't know about which
I feel like something is something must have happened, or
something is happening, or it's just really sad when it
shows you that donors a pair that much, and when
when you have donors that pay a lot of money, uh,
you know what happens. And unfortunately I was I was

(07:28):
told that one of the main donors, who happens to
be in my industry, a national company but are based
there was actually a big factor in this. And I
absolutely hate that, absolutely hate that. But West through Holmes
is kind of a one day bath type company. Are
are one of the large sponsors and supposedly had a
lot of saying this.

Speaker 1 (07:48):
Yeah it's true, Yeah, but I hate it.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
No, there's a lot when when you're an equity stakeholder,
which the donor base typically is, they get a.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
Little bit more leverage.

Speaker 2 (07:59):
And James Franklin's record in big games did play a
role in moving on from the longtime head coach. Athletic
director Pat Kraft acknowledged that earlier today you said, I'm
here to win a national championship, and I believe our
fans deserve that.

Speaker 1 (08:16):
Man, I don't know if.

Speaker 2 (08:17):
The modern era athletic director realizes that with the conference expansions,
you know, getting into sixteen, eighteen, twenty teams or what
have you, whatever, they're the outlook is going to be
like it's going to become and with nil parody, you know,
with more parody with the transfer portal and nil college

(08:42):
football capitalism, it's going to even the playing field.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
That's what they're seeing right now.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
And I don't know if it's feasible for all these
teams to fire top ten coaches just to try to
win a national championship.

Speaker 3 (08:57):
Well it isn't. And I think again it goes back
to this is where you'll let donors control way too much.
I mean, look, I hate to say it, but even
at the high school level, this is where you get
one really rich parent that funds the program, that basically
keeps the high school program a life has so much
say and it is absolute a travesty. It should never happen.

(09:18):
But let's call space of s fate. It happens, and
it happens every day, and it's how the world goes around.
I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying I like it,
because I don't. But it is the reality and that's
what happens. You know, you get these these donors that
want say and they say, I'm pulling my funds if
you don't, and they can't lose it, so they do it.

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Speaker 1 (11:17):
Have a great day. All right, there you have it.
That's our segment. We'll call that uh A segment.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
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Speaker 1 (11:34):
Three nine at ninety eight three ESPN The Van, Welcome
back Cougar Sports one O three nine ninety eight three
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that data aggregation gonna get into a little player profile. Second,
here with our three of Cougar Sports, we're taking you

(11:55):
through the first two great hours recap in the posts
game double overtime time when against Arizona phenomenal game. We've
broke it all down. If you missed any of it.
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just play a profile second. We're gonna get into the
Parker Kingston volatile soaktuala sound. Both of those guys played
well in this Arizona game. Yes they did. I've stated

(12:38):
already an hour one uh bright now Parker's wide receiver. Yes.
I say it as a motivation to motivate Chase Roberts.
We know who Chase is, we know what Chase does.
But I say that because he got locked up, he
did just what happens. Wanted to be motivating, you need
him to show up to Saturday against Utah, very good defense.
Smith Snowden is going to have him at times, so

(12:59):
you want to see Chase ball out. Didn't do that
against Arizona. I believe you can bounce back, but wanted
to be motivation. Wanted to put it on the wall
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already wasn't one of the leaders on this team and
in this wide receiver room, and we wanted to see
what season what you have or I remember we had

(14:01):
Austin Colly on the show and he said, Parker, I
believe is gonna have a big year. JoJo's gonna have
a big year. That was before Jojo went down, obviously
with the injury. But it's nice to see Parker Kingston
emerge and have this even though Chase was in single coverage,
double coverage. It's nice to see someone step up. We've
been wondering who wide receiver number two is gonna be.
I've been very declared of about this bread that it

(14:22):
was sticks it was number eleven, and I'm grateful that
that's being proven correctly. Now. It sucks because you probably
if he's healthy the whole fall camp, he might have
more receiving yards. Maybe I'm wrong, maybe he doesn't have
those two fumbles. We can play the what if game,
the should have coat would all day, but at the
end of the day, there's no doubt Parker right now
is playing at a different level, and we have to

(14:43):
give him credit for that, because he's doing something that
maybe not a lot of people thought he could do.
People said Carson Ryan would be the second leading receiving
person on this team right now at the end of
the season, Parker might lead the team in receptions as
well as yards bred. By the end of the season.
I don't think he'll be out SI. I think it'd

(15:03):
be chased, but park will be a close second.

Speaker 4 (15:05):
Look shout out to Brett Always bringing the hammer for
the freezing cold take of the year, which was I
didn't know if Parker would finish as a top three
receiver on the team, and I said that based on
his two previous seasons where we expected big things from
him and didn't see big things. We saw good things,
not massive things. Freezing cold take from me, and I'm
so happy to be wrong. Parker Kingston is dominating. He

(15:29):
can't be covered. He's too fast. Oh my word, when
he just said see it turned on the after burners
on that seventy five yard touchdown, that made you think, Hey,
this is a wide receiver who can dominate in Arizona secondary,
who doesn't like to give up anything over the middle
of the field, let alone big play seventy five yard touchdowns.
So Parker Kingston deserves so much credit for how much

(15:53):
he's stepped up this season and has been a massive
safety blanket for Bear.

Speaker 1 (15:56):
Bachmeier has been a massive safe safety blanket and d
car Ryan also, I don't want to say struggle against Aarazona,
that's not the right word. He was more utilized in
the run game, but dropped a couple of passes early,
so maybe they went away from him and said, you know,
we'll go differently. But what I need from the wide
receivers in the tight end room is this, no drop
balls this Saturday. None can't have it. It's been too

(16:19):
many this season to begin with. But you can't have
any right now. You need Carson, you need Chase the
Locke in. You're gonna need those guys this Saturday. Aaron
Roddick's gonna go to them. But you can't drop passes early.
So you pray, you hope that they get it together,
they get it right, get it dialed. Maybe you could
say Bear put too much on that throw first on
the Carson on the screen. Sure, At the same time, Brett,

(16:41):
what do you got? What do you And I always say,
what do you and I always say, you hit your hands,
you got to catch the darn ball, So catch the
darn football. Anyway, let's go ahead and get into the sound.
This was Parker Kingson and follow Tasaut Touala together. We're
gonna go question by a question. Breaking it down will
be specific on what questions were asked to Parker and
the follow town. So let's start with number one. So,

(17:03):
Parker Kingston, what were the emotions after a five hour
game and winning in double ot?

Speaker 5 (17:10):
Yeah, I mean it was.

Speaker 1 (17:11):
It was awesome.

Speaker 5 (17:12):
I mean, there's there's no better feeling than winning, and
especially winning and overtime, double overtime on the road and
against a really good Arizona team.

Speaker 1 (17:20):
So it was awesome. No better feeling than winning in
double overtime against a really good Arizona team. I am
gonna say. I don't know if Brandon Gurney's listening or
to listen to the podcast, but I'll text him Brandon
Gurney was right. Oh, Arizona is better than what they
were last year, And I'm going to give credit. I
will admit when I'm wrong. I have no problem doing

(17:41):
that right, just like I have no problem taking credit
when I'm right, but I will say directly I was
wrong about that. Arizona has really impressed me this season.
This lost to BYU. And you don't want to say
any loss is good because it's bad when you look
at your program. But this was losing to BYU. They
dropped the ball, they fumbled the back, they had to
have the Vic Green nut in task. But losing to

(18:03):
BYU is no slouch. You don't look at this game
and says, Okay, we got run a UK. They were
very competitive, and they came out and they were putting
up a good fight against BYU, and they almost got
it done.

Speaker 4 (18:12):
I would be willing to bet there's a lot of
Arizona fans who woke up yesterday and a lot who
are waking up today saying we won that game.

Speaker 1 (18:19):
We should have won that game. Absolutely.

Speaker 4 (18:21):
To be honest, I wouldn't dispute any of those fans because.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
One fumble, you come up with it, that's game over.

Speaker 4 (18:31):
Arizona wins that ball game, especially considered how they looked
in the first quarter.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
By You looked.

Speaker 4 (18:38):
Like they were going to Parker Kingston see a run
away with that thing. The RAINDA comes, Arizona makes adjustments
and it's a completely even ballgame. In fact, by you
didn't even score until later on in the game because
Arizona was so dominant going forward from that rain delay.
I'm sure there's a lot of Arizona fans who feel

(18:59):
like we should have won that game. Arizona played a valiant,
valiant game. They deserve a lot of credit for the
effort that they put on the field there on Saturday. Yeah,
tip my hats to the Wildcats. I just hope they're
able to get both eligible and get it done because
that loss hurts.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
They gotta go on the road against Houston Eastern is
a very good defensive team. Then they gotta go they
have a buye. Then they gotta go on the road
to Colorado. And you saw what Colorado did that. I
always stay that went against Colorado and awl for Bill,
he looks a lot yep better on tape. Iowa State
looks a little bit more formidable less excuse me, less
formidable than you think in that regards. Nonetheless, at the

(19:33):
end of the day, Steell, you want to be able
to take care of business this week and then go
to Ames. Sames is still gonna be a tough environment.
Then they play Kansas at home. Then they play number
twenty four Cincinnati on the road. That's gonna be tough.
Then they got Baylor at the crib. Then they play,
you know, their rivalry in the last week against Arizona
State not too far away up there in Tempe. So
Arizona a good football team, better than what they were

(19:54):
last year. Brandon Gerdy, I'm still willing to say that
even if they don't get eligible, the way they played
this year is way better than last year. And how
norf A feeded like Norpha feeder might throw for three
thousand yards and twenty five touchdowns, he very well might
be able to do that. So still lots of the
ball left to be played. But I just want to
tip my hat to Arizona and give them the credit
because I was very impressed being down there in Arizona

(20:16):
and Tucson in the box. Number two Parker, what do
you guys do offensively to bounce back? Given the twenty
four points unanswered by the Arizona offense.

Speaker 5 (20:27):
Yeah, we just needed to execute our plays and execute
our blocks and our assignments. And I think once we
did that, we started driving the ball again and making
plays and there was never a doubt. We knew that
we were in this no matter what, and it was
great to pull it out.

Speaker 1 (20:43):
The issue became the turnovers. That was the problem. They
give momentum LJMRK getting the run game, then a bad
couple of execution plays mispass on you know, second down
turns in the third and longer. First down, it turns
in the second long. You don't get a good push
up front, so you don't execute the way you did.
And Arizona's defensive line a lot of credit, you really do,
because they got aggressive. They came with a push. They

(21:04):
said you're not gonna run us over and no Granta
as a whole. Lgent Martin tore them up, no doubt.
I know you'll say the stats here momentarily bread but
at the end of the day, when they needed a
crucial stop to make it difficult on the Bau offense,
they did that. They kept Byu out of third and short,
they kept them more on third and long, and that
made it difficult for Bear Blackwiner. And you have to
wonder for Bau, how do you correct that to getting

(21:25):
a third and short, Because you know what Uthah was
gonna do. Try to repel keep that same thing, stack
the box, make you go throw, and make you go
throw it over the top on single coverage. And it's
so hard to swing momentum in your favor when you're
on the road, especially when you've gone a second and
a third quarter with a goose egg on the scoreboard,

(21:46):
shout them out three quarters.

Speaker 4 (21:47):
So for them to do what they were able to
this BYU offense and bring themselves back into the game,
I mean, I did think with the way the clock
was rolling at the end of that fourth quarter, knowing
they needed two possessions, I wasn't quite sure that they
were going to get it done. And obviously they went

(22:07):
out and did it despite a couple of plays offensively
that didn't go their way. You had the Chase Roberts
touchdown that gets called back because the referees believe that
it hit the ground. You have a fourth down drop,
or you have a drop by Chase Roberts. So there
were a lot of things that even though BYU put
it on in the fourth quarter, there's a lot of
things that still didn't go their way. But they found

(22:29):
a way to push this thing into overtime and Parker
Kingston deserves a lot of credit for that.

Speaker 1 (22:35):
I said it in the first hour. I'll say it
again here. I haven't said it this morning on our
own podcast, which you can always check on the Belief Network.
This win was a defining win in the Kloni Sataki
era that was shaped the next ten years. You will
because when you talk about the Georgia's, when you talk
about the Alabamas, where you talk about the Organs, maybe
even the Penn States. Maybe not right now because it

(22:56):
was fired Dran Franklin, But when you look at all
of this as a hole, the top coaches, the top programs,
they get wins like this, yes, where you have no
business winning the game, and your defense shows up. You
stay in it long enough, Brett, and then you're able
to get it done. Everybody knows that every coach has
had that. Nick Sabans had these wins. Kirby Smartest had
these wins even against formidable opponents where it's like, why

(23:18):
are they still in the game, maybe against the Georgia
or in Auburn or Texas A and M, and then
they find a way to pull it out. So you
got to give Killiney credit. He deserves credit. They got
it done. Let's get back to the sound here, Parker
number three, take us through your touchdown run. This was
the longest of your BYU career, if I'm not wrong.

Speaker 5 (23:37):
Yeah, it was awesome. I actually thought it was going
to Chase because usually in one high we take the
shot over the top. But that safety flipped his hips
towards Chase and I saw Bear rifle it to me
and all I had to do was run. And it's
always nice when I can just run an open space.

Speaker 1 (23:50):
Look. A lot of people are saying that at the
Arizona Safety took a bad angle Brett. Once again, I mean,
you can argue that, but I mean the kid he got,
Chase Roberts that beat the dB and it was going deep.
You can't get mad at the kid and be like,
I don't want to lose the number two. And it's
a tough position. It's a great play call by a rod.
You put, honestly, Arizona in the perfect defensive look and
you got exactly what you did. And he opened up

(24:11):
his hips because he didn't want to, you know, go
for that doesn't want number two to beat him over
the top, which there probably was a lot of emphasis
and saying, hey, their top receiver, their NFL guy just
won for this. This is not happening to us, But
that gives other guys opportunities to make a play. So
I don't know if he took a bad angle. Don't
know if I fully agree with that. I just believe
he was in a tough situation. But at the end

(24:32):
of the day, great play called by a Rod, great
throw by Bear, and then I'm sorry. Anytime you're gonna
have eleven out there and you want to take a
chance and run him down, I think I'm gonna take
sticks all day on that because you just can't beat him.

Speaker 4 (24:46):
Yeah, it is interesting when you go back and watch
this play. I don't even know that it's a bad angle.
I think Parker Kingston just outruns it. Yeah, he just
runs sitting over top and Parker takes that post and
takes it up, and he's not catch he's not totally
over top of it, but he's not in a bad
position to make a play. PK just is that fast.

(25:07):
I mean, it's it's that simple. It is watching it
right now. I mean they hike the ball. They bring
obviously Carson Ryan around from Maxicar second to get out
to Chase, but he's not that far away, he's not.

Speaker 1 (25:21):
Parker just gets away from him. And I believe this
to me, there's two guys that he wouldn't catch, Cody
Hagen and Parker Kingston. He's not catching. He might not
even catch Kiling Mary and if he's on his team.
But honestly, like he opens up for a second and
turns sitting over the time of it, though he's right there,
just he gets out run by Parker like that. When
you got guys that can legit four four guys, you're

(25:42):
not going to catch a guy like that. If that's Chase,
even if that's maybe Jojo, he might be able to
hawk him down. But Parker's so fast when he cuts
across like that, when he runs that post is just
off to the races end. Look, he's trying to catch him.

Speaker 4 (25:55):
He's like, yeah, it's just he is ahead of him
by five yards and he's obviously coming at an ad
but he's ahead of him and Parker just runs by him.

Speaker 1 (26:03):
Yeah, So shout out to Parker. So don't know if
I agree with there is only people that were saying
that that's just it's a tough ask in that situation.
It's really a tough ass. That's all we can say.
So at the end of the day, you gotta give
credit to a Rod beautiful play call number four. Parker
took us to the celebration dances you did afterwards celebration.

Speaker 5 (26:24):
Oh, it was actually Jojo Selly, so I kind of
took it from him. Sorry Jojo, but yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 (26:29):
It was fun. Jojo had to seally. I took it
from him. Hey, sometime to get a highlight y other
the teammates doing that. I need to talk to Jojo
when he gets back about they didn't know that was
JoJo's celebration, but I know been put out ranked the
dance moves. I didn't expect to see Parker do that.
I could tell you this. That dance was better than
the one where he went like this last year when
he scored a touch. I don't know what that first

(26:50):
one was, but that one was a little bit different.
So I'm trying to remember what that one is called.
I'm not familiar with the Yeah. I think he was
too when I asked him in the post game. I
think it's funny always to ask these ones like you know,
what do you come up with this stuff? Because it's hilarious.

Speaker 4 (27:02):
So I honestly love that he I don't want I
don't even like using the word took it from Jojo
because if JoJo's in the game, then it's one thing.

Speaker 1 (27:12):
But JoJo's injured and he's not playing.

Speaker 4 (27:14):
So to me, that's just you showing love and representing
a teammate who doesn't get to be on the field.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Because I know Alabama when they had a guy.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
Go out and they were doing the kind of the
crane kick celebration. I think it was John Metchi. I'm
trying to remember who it was, but when he went
out that all of his teammates were doing. I think
it's really cool when you can represent your teammate who
doesn't get to play. So shot at to Parker, Yeah,
shot at to Parker. Okay, let's switch it over.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Follow Tew tell us, you guys had to make do
with a lot of regular defensive performers that were out
speak to the guys that you were able to put
in and they were able to pull it out.

Speaker 6 (27:50):
You know, it was a little rough, especially coming in
without Jack Kelly, then losing greater early in the game
and Keanu pretty early too. But there's a lot of
people who stepped up in and kind of feeled their
shoes and were able to make plays. Then obviously the
people on the field too are stepping up and making
a lot of plays too.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, I mentioned this earlier, that idea to lose Raider
little friendly fire there, helmet goes into the hip struggle
to get up, So that sucked in that Regard wasn't
street close. But you hope that he's back. You'll see
what the obviously the diagnosis is this week. But that
was unfortunate. And then Regard you also lost Keanu. Not
ideal to lose your best in my opinion, tackling safety

(28:28):
that comes down here Raider I fill is up there
along with t Wall and then you lose Keanu. Unfortunately,
it was targeting. I know people aren't gonna like me
to say that, but it was the one of Isaiah
GLASGARDI said in the first hour, we're not gonna go there,
and they got to figure out this rough and a
passer and his targeting call together that they got to
figure out this bull drive didn't feel like it was.
But nonetheless, at the end of the day, the refs

(28:48):
are gonna make calls. You can't control those, they can't
pick up certain flags. It is what it is, but
you're able to get through it. Ball out. So shout
out to the depth Sialia Sarah said this, you know
in the first hour, that's why you want to got
those guys for that reason and any a good job
in my opinion.

Speaker 4 (29:02):
No, the depth on this team is insane and a
lot of guys who are unsung heroes on this team
finally got to step up, show up and show out
in place of guys who are household names. Now guys
who aren't finally got their day of fame.

Speaker 1 (29:21):
Finally got their day of fame. There's a lot of
guys and I know we're gonna get into it later
in the week. We're gonna discuss the Max CHOWI some
of the grades. I'm not gonna reveal those, but man,
some of these dudes played phenomenal. I will say this
Pro Football Focus rated what is his stukes? I believe
it was a guy that picked off Bear. I think
he had almost eighty four grade. Yeah, again, that guy's
the NFL guy, So I know Bear turned the football

(29:43):
over against him. He almost did the same twice when
he threw it out of bounds and he ran the
Parker again. But that guy's a problem, the red shirt senior,
that safety. We were informed about this, that look out
for him, Ryan Jeffers told us last Friday, and sure
enough he was a problem. Let's keep it going though.
Number six, Volatile, where the defenders in favor of going

(30:06):
for two to end the ball game?

Speaker 6 (30:08):
I'm always in favor for going for two, you know,
trusting in our team. You know, our offense gonna winning
for us no matter what. So we trust them. They
trust us to Sorry, I believe in it.

Speaker 1 (30:17):
We trust them, they trust us. I just I think
the reason why that question was asked was Kalani said,
and we heard this in the first hour, I wanted
to go for two. You know how aggressive I want
to be in that regard, But he was convinced not
to go for two. So I think there's some question
being asked, like, hey, did you guys want to go
for two and ended? There's some disparity there maybe, but

(30:37):
it doesn't matter. At the end of the day. They're
gonna trust who they trust. Number seven, Volatile, were you
expecting to find yourself in the backfield as much as
you did on Saturday.

Speaker 6 (30:50):
Honestly, Yeah, with a lot of split zone and being
in man covers with those tight ends running across, I
feel like I'll end up in the back of a lot.
So I've gotten used to it, definitely. With the last
couple of games, especially how much the other teams have.

Speaker 1 (31:02):
Ran it, He's definitely been finding himself in the back
for the lock. Shout out to Sean Walker of kissel
dot com. He was the one that actually asked that question.
I thought that was pretty powerful. Flatoel has started to
step up his play, no doubt. He had eleven total
tackles in this game, five solo, six assisted, one tackle
for lost, one pass breakup on pass deflection as well.
So when you think about that, he's been balling out

(31:24):
the College excuse me Westergener game eight total tackles, six
solo to assist it, one tackle for lost, and can
go to the Colorado game he had a sack, tackle
for loss and then you know he's had an interception
of fumble, a force fumble. He's been playing really well
this season. He's making his money, no doubt. If not,
he's a guy that will be paid next year because
he's stepping up Bratt was impressingly the most about Folotyle

(31:47):
in the last three games.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Well, I've just been pressed with the safety room as
a whole. You hear lots of quotes, and I always
play this game of is this coach talk or is
this real talk? And sometimes when you hear coaches say, oh,
we have this many guys we can play, we have
this many guys deep, and I'm like, really, or are
you just saying that to let your guys.

Speaker 1 (32:10):
Know that you believe in them?

Speaker 4 (32:11):
The safety room, for be this BYU football team has
been awesome. Raider De Mooney, who's a guy we've heard
about for a while but hasn't we haven't seen a
whole lot from because he just hasn't played yet. He
made a ton of plays. It was honestly a massive
loss when he went out of that game. It was
because we saw in the first quarter he was flying
all over the field. He was in the backfield as
well as we know what Fala Tausatsuala is.

Speaker 1 (32:33):
But what impressed me most was the fact.

Speaker 4 (32:35):
That in this game you knew, being down Jack Kelly,
you were gonna have to bring in more dbs, you
were gonna have to play more guys bring in more safeties,
which meant your depth would be tested. And there were
times that it felt like Falatausatzuala and Raider Demoni were
just playing like linebackers the way that they were just
eating Arizona's offense in the backfield.

Speaker 1 (32:58):
They were when Raider came down on the first plan
like takes the running back out, tight ends out, I'm like,
they can't. They can't run and throw the football like
Raiders coming down. So I agree with you. That was
a big loss, very unfortunate that you hope he's healthy.
Gonna need him against Utah?

Speaker 2 (33:11):
Yea.

Speaker 1 (33:11):
If not, there's a lot of guys, you know, I
know a lot of people like, hey, Jonathan Kabe didn't play.
They said he was available. Wait a second, Tommy was questionable.
I think again. I said this last week, and I
stand by this. If you can't beat Arizona without certain
guys with this depth, that's proven in my opinion. If
you can't beat Arizona, what makes you think you're going
to be Utah with these guys in their regard. But

(33:34):
they were able to do it, it's going to pass true.
Now you'll we'll see, do you get Jack Kelly back.
Do you get Tommy Prats's back? Does Jonathan Kabaa play?
Is a Raider going to be available? Keanu will play
because again reminder, the targeting happening in the first half,
so he doesn't have to miss the first half of
the BYU Utah game. So because of that, he was
out the rest of the game, missed the second half.
That's how targeting works. If you get in the second

(33:54):
half of a football game in college, you have to
miss the first half of a game because it technically
counts a full game of full I said, two quarters,
two halves, So that was a blessing, I guess in
disguise for the fact it didn't happen late. Nonetheless, so
you have Keanu for the whole game. You're gonna need him.
But no doubt again, Lucy thal Mabeya and to Celia

(34:14):
Conna stepped up big time. I think those are things
that people are looking at. The pass rush that they have.
Kelly Pipinga gets a lot of credit there, dudes that
stepped up, no doubt, and I think you're gonna play
both of those guys. It's good to see Nuci healthy
because he's been raved about. He's a dude, and for
the fact that he was on the field against Arizona.
I think by the end of the season you could
see a heavy doses of number five and so Celiacana

(34:34):
has had his moments, but both of those guys. The
future of BYU at defensive end I think is in
good hands, especially with Hauna Clegg as well.

Speaker 4 (34:41):
One hundred percent of this defense looked awesome on Saturday,
despite going up against a really good Big twelve offense
and being down a number of guys. I don't feel
like this BYU defense lost that much of a step
on Saturday.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
They didn't Number eight volatile take us through the last
play of the game. Evan Johnson wasn't covered.

Speaker 6 (35:01):
Yeah, just being in man coverage across the board, single high.
Evan Johnson one of the best corners in the nation
right now, So obviously you're not gonna you're not gonna
get something on him over at the top, especially so
just seeing that and the crowd explode and our whole
sideline just running to him was was amazing. Just yeah,
I love Evan Johnson. Trust his coverage out all the time.

Speaker 1 (35:21):
Boom, that's a bar. Evan Johnson one of the best
corners in the nation. You're not gonna get anything over
him buying or selling that from Volatile.

Speaker 4 (35:29):
I mean he showed it, didn't he On that final play.
I think every BYU fan watching the game your heart
stopped for a couple of seconds because you were waiting
to see you said, hey, that is a really good ball.

Speaker 1 (35:43):
I mean I was looking at in zone brothers, that's
a good ball.

Speaker 4 (35:47):
And what do we say, Ron hits your hands, gotta
catch it, and he was able to.

Speaker 1 (35:51):
Get one hand on it.

Speaker 4 (35:52):
But again, smav is in such tight coverage that he's
forcing him out of bounds, forces a throat to the
back of the ends, can't come down with it. I mean,
you could argue he made the game winning play that day,
oh one hundred percent.

Speaker 1 (36:06):
He made the game win to stop the guy didn't
catch the ball, and you think he shout out to
know if he to give him credit, he threw the
ball where no one could get it. He threw a
perfect ball. That is a perfect ball that you throw
on that route. And Evan Johnson said, Okay, you can
throw a perfect ball, but I'm gonna make this guy
make a perfect catch. Couldn't get to it in that regard.
If that was Mega Trone would have catched it, but

(36:27):
Megatron was one of the kind people are like, why
are you bringing up that guy? Because they're guys that
can go catch the football. But again, there's levels to this, right,
and that's why you see the difference of this. Pready,
look at the Jamar Chase catch right that happened on Sunday.
If you missed it, go back. That's the difference between that.
Even when you throw a perfect ball, you have to
make a perfect catch to have both, and he wasn't
able to do that. So shout out to Evan Johnson

(36:48):
number nine. Let's go back to PK. Klani told us
earlier that it would be nice for Bear to have
those learning moments without the interceptions. What is it about
his makeup that every time he makes the mistake he
bounces back extremely quick?

Speaker 5 (37:03):
Yeah, he's he plays like he's a vet. I mean
he's a freshman. He's smart. He's just trying to make plays.
And it's I mean, he like he's so smart as
a freshman, a true freshman, and he's he's a ballplayer,
so it doesn't matter. He doesn't get down. He's just like,
all right, next drive and we'll come out firing. And
that's that's been fun to play with and play with him.

Speaker 1 (37:24):
He plays like he's a VET. He's so smart. That's
a bar.

Speaker 4 (37:30):
You know how whenever opposing coaches talk about Bou, you
always get like the same five cliches where it's like,
oh they got grown strength, Oh they got kids. I
now feel like we're at the point every Saturday where
we we give about the same five answers with Bear
and look, cliches are cliche for a reason because they're true.
But we every week we're saying things like, oh yeah

(37:51):
he's accurate, Oh yeah, he's really smart. Oh yeah, when
he makes a mistake, he doesn't even think about it.
He forgets it real easy. We have all these cliches
that we say every week, but they're cliches for a
reason because Bear is that guy.

Speaker 1 (38:03):
He's not a freshman. He does play like a VET.

Speaker 4 (38:06):
All of those things are coming to Fruition every single Saturday.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Yeah. I just thought that was impressive when you have
the guy leading the team right now and receptions and
reception yard say, look, he's a VT, he's so smart.
I think that goes a long way and I'm gonna
be honest, he's been very impressive every time he's turning
the football over. To stay that driven, to not get down,
to keep going, says a lot. You know a lot

(38:32):
of guys will get mentally affected by that UC body language.
And I'll say this, i'm's gonna go back to last
year with something. Whenever Darius Lassiter and Jake Retzlaff had
a misshap or the ball wasn't thrown, there was negative
body language from both, no doubt, maybe more from Darius.
It doesn't matter. But the point is that I think
played a factor. I'm gonna be honest, I'm gonna bring
that and that affected I think their game. You know

(38:54):
what happens when Bear overthrows Chase or doesn't get the
ball to Parker, he says, my bad and he runs off.
The tax accountability goes to the you know, the iPad
that they're able to have now to go look back.
He's with Chase, he's with Matt Mitchell doing that, he's
talking to a rod on the heads. I think those
are powerful moments from a young guy. And that's nothing
against the two guys from last year. But I bring

(39:14):
up that point for the fact that. I'm very impressed
with the eighteen ninet year on a young man that
makes mistakes and that's that mentally tough, that's mentally driven
of that probably gets angry that he didn't do it
and says, Okay, what did I do wrong? And you
know we're gonna hear from Bear in the next segment.
I'm gonna tease a little bit, but Bear says, oh,
the offense stall, that was my fault, right, like again, accountability,

(39:36):
a guy that understands, hey, I gotta do better to
get these guys going. He's a different kid. If BYU
has a really good one, forty seven is a problem.
Forty seven has a lot of grid, a lot of
toughness that I think doesn't get talked about a lot.
And I think you're gonna see when if he's doing
this and his freshman year, I'm really excited to see.
I don't want to jump the gun and be pretty

(39:57):
maature what he does next year as a sophomore. But
right now, he's been killing a couple last things before
we go to break for both of you guys, what
kept the belief with being down ten and eleven minutes
left to go in the ballgame.

Speaker 5 (40:09):
Yeah, I mean we're we never doubt.

Speaker 1 (40:12):
We were down ten ten minutes left.

Speaker 5 (40:14):
We knew the defense would get stops, and we knew
that we were starting to get those drives put together.
And it was finally good to finish those last two
drives and off the defensive defensive stops.

Speaker 1 (40:26):
Yeah, it was finally good to see them getting the
endzone again. Shout at Arizona defense. They scored fourteen points
to bau backed the back bank. Well, they went three
and out to start, then boom touchdown, boom touchdown, and
after that two and a half quarters, almost a full
three of no points. You can argue that they held
them for two and three four. So Arizona's defense is
better than what we thought. Again, I'll get Brandon Gurney credit.

(40:46):
I was wrong. Arizona's really impressed me, no doubt. Ye
all right, Number eleven. How much did the weather delay
threw you guys out of rhythm? Parker?

Speaker 5 (40:58):
I mean I wouldn't say, I don't know. It kind
of threw off our rhythm, but we just came out slow.
I mean that was that was nobody's, nobody else's fault
but ours, and we could have handled it. Better, but
it took us a little bit back and a little
time to get back into routine, but we finally got there.

Speaker 1 (41:16):
Yeah, threw them off. I think you can say that
they're rolling, they were going down to field an opportunity
to go up you know, seventeen zero, twenty one zero
or whatever it was at the time that it threw
him off. I think you can say that it gave
Arizona more juice and you saw that playing the game.
But again, mentally tough that's on this team, a lot
of leadership to come out and get that victory. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:34):
Translation, Parker didn't want to say that it threw them
off because as a player, that's you know, you don't
want to make excuses like that. Absolutely, but also if
he's being real with himself, he does feel like that
it threw him off. That's why you kind of heard
him hesitate there. And I don't think there's any shame
in that at all.

Speaker 1 (41:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:48):
No, Like they clearly know that they were bawling the
first three, those second and third possessions, and then once
the reign came, their offense changed. Now part of that,
I don't know if it all completely was their rhythm
that was thrown off. I think part of it was
Arizona basically used that rain delay as halftime to make adjustments,
and so when they came out BYU didn't maybe wasn't

(42:11):
prepared because they didn't know what they were gonna see.
So yes, I think it threw off their rhythm a
little bit, But I also don't think it was the
end of the world because they found a way to
win that ball game.

Speaker 1 (42:21):
Shout out to genius J.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
Hill.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
He made adjustments. Arizona didn't score in a third quarter.
They scored in the fourth though, and then guess what
happens they only scored three in overtime. So J Hills, guys, again,
the genius guy had done made the adjustment as possible.
That defense reveal you that depth look good. I'm excited
to see Tacilly and Nucy for the rest of the year.
They are nice. Just wait future ba you know doubt

(42:42):
number twelve, six and zero to start the season, Folla tew.
How does this momentum take you into the rivalry game
against Utah?

Speaker 6 (42:50):
Yeah, it'll be a big game on but just being
six and oh, you know, we expected this from the
beginning of the season, So I'm just going want to
know every week. Next week is a big game, but
also no different than just want to know in a
week and making sure that we can we can prepare
right and be ready with everyone who's banged up a
little bit and coming back on defense.

Speaker 1 (43:07):
Nothing changes, no different, Gotta go want to know again
when want to know last week. But it does give
you momentum into the rivalry game because now again you
put your undefeated record on the line. There's a lot
to play for in that regard. But nothing changes. Nothing
changes at the end of the day, Like you said,
they had dep guys, so glad that they're able to
do that last thing. We'll get you out of here.
On this Parker, your QB and running back Bear and

(43:28):
LJ combined for forty seven carries on Saturday. What does
this say about the toughness of that duo.

Speaker 5 (43:39):
Yeah, I mean we wouldn't be able to throw the
ball without them, especially with how well they run the
ball and open up and opens it up for us
down the field, obviously because it brings us safeties down.
But I mean watching LJ and Bear run, it's it's awesome.

Speaker 2 (43:52):
There.

Speaker 5 (43:53):
There's some of the toughest sobs that that we play
with and it's been it's been fun, fun to watch them.

Speaker 3 (44:00):
Probably shouldn't have said that.

Speaker 1 (44:04):
Uh you hear the s idea in the back all good.
I just thought that was that was funny that Parker
said that there's some tough there's some tough s obs.
There's a lot of curses, a lot of violations. You know,
we got s obs, You got h double hockey sticks,
got bad asses, you know I need. There's honor code
violations all around on a code. I say this tongue

(44:25):
in cheek. So I like to finish it out. Back
to back seasons of six and on the first time
in program history that this happened. You know what coach
has led them to doing that, Kalanie Sataki. So going
back to what I said in the first hour, I'll
say it again. This win against Arizona is a defining
win for his legacy and it's time at b YU.
These back to back starts with six and zero also
defined who it is. Kilane has been great for ten years.

(44:48):
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