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They went over the U of A Wildcats and the
performance of LJ. Mart and bear Bachmeyer leading BYU to
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glory and victor. I didn't think I didn't think it
was possible at a true freshman quarterback win a road
P four game in in you know, in playing from behind,
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Welcome in former b YU great the quarterback Scientists of
three DQB. We got John Beck on the line. John,
how that was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It was good man.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It was obviously full of football. Fun to watch the
Cougars get a big win. Sometimes I don't always get
to watch the game live because of my Pop Warner
games and so a lot of the times I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Watching the game, you know, replayed and people have already
texted me and you know what, Hey, this is what
happened or this or that, you know, like I love
just getting to sit.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
There with my boys and watch the game live and
watching DYU have a comeback win on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It was is It was a great way to finish
off the night.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It was awesome, John, What was the most rushing attempts
you ever had in your BYU career in a game,
do you remember?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I don't know, man, you know that's kind of a
I just know that in my first two years as
a starter, we struggled.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
To run the football and so a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Of the times, and truly it's kind of how I
find I found my way on the field as a
freshman was because of my involvement in some of the
running game type stuff. We would run a lot of
gun speed option. We had some built in QB design
runs my freshman year where even the games I wasn't starting,
I would get put.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
In the game to run some of these design runs.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
So I don't know about how many times I ran it,
but I do know those first two years, just trying
to find ways to get yards, we would utilize the
QB run game, and I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I definitely wasn't running at twenty two or however many
times Bear ran it. That's forting sure.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Twenty two times, I think it was. Through the third
quarter in this game, he had only ran the ball
seven times, and I tweeted out at the end of
the third quarter, I'm like, hey, Bear is averaging you know,
in the teams sometimes getting up into fifteen or so carries,
and I'm like, I feel like they're going to run
him a little bit, even though they're playing from behind
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inclement weather on the road. Couple I iNTS. I was
like that they're going to start running him in some
way shape before I didn't think it would be twenty
two though, in order to win the game.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, No, And look, I don't think that that's the
game plan to say, hey, let's let's go run Bear
close to twenty five times this game to kick off
kind of some hard dig twelve games, right, that's a
lot of hits that a quarterback has taken in the
run game.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But what I think happened is you have weather issues,
you know.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yes, Bear had a couple of turnovers, and I think
that the completion percentage, right, it was just I don't
want to call it an off night because he had
some really really good throws, but it was for a
young quarterback, probably the first time this year that things weren't.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Going pretty smooth. For the most part, BYU's passing attack
has been able to, you know, keep Bear in a
place where he's doing a lot of safe throws, a
lot of the throws are we know where we want
to go. If it's not there, we go to the
outlet or it's quick screens.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
That game on Saturday was actually requiring him to, I think,
see a little bit more. If you go into the
lineage of the defensive coordinator for that team and how
he came up, there's a lot of Rocky long New
Mexico San Diego State like that defense, like you.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Have to see a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
They're going to throw a lot of different looks at you,
and at times you don't get the cleanest coverage details,
and that's that's by design. And so you know, it
showed a little bit a young quarterback kind of having
those those moments of some adversity. And I think what
Byu did was very smart. You are a I think
a top fifteen rushing attack in the country with LJ.
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Martin the offensive line. You have a quarterback that is
really good carrying the football. How do we take some
of this pressure off him so that we're not throwing
it on his shoulders to try to come back and win.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
We're not asking him to see the defense perfectly.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
We're not asking him to have pinpoint perfect throws in
a difficult weather game.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Let's lean on one of our.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Biggest strengths, and that's the run game, and it's Bar
Bachmeier light in games running the football.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
If you want to talk about where.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Bear is comfortable, and I know that Ben, you and
I have had this conversation before of just how he
played in high school. Bear did so many things in
high school, utilizing his legs late in games. At San Clemente,
he torched us twice in really close games, late in
games and even overtime with what he's able to do
with his legs, and he did that on Saturday night
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for BYU, How would you.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Describe the play calling in this game? Then let's evaluate
a Rod what he was doing late in the game.
He received a little bit of criticism for, you know,
time management, but it seemed like that kept Bear Bachmeier
more so in a groove and maybe even allowed LJ
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to get a reprieve. I mean, LJ was probably pretty
tired in this game, having to toot twenty five times,
so going into a huddle not in hurry up. You
have a few issues with turnovers and inclement weather. It
seemed like a Rod was really calculated, very stoic, very calm,
and you saw that maybe with Bear and the play calling,
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give me your evalt.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Well, I think when you look at some of the
plays that Bear you know, maybe slightly missed on or
like one of the interceptions, you know, the one interception
that was you know, a snap that was you know,
through his hands if you want to call it botch,
Like he's trying to make a play.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He sees a guy that flashes hands.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
We always tell receivers you have to be so careful
when you flash hands and you think you're so wide
open because you don't really really realize what coverages around you.
Sometimes as a quarterback, when a guy flash his hands,
you like, you see that, And so I think there
there was a moment where he was trying to you know,
he probably felt that the team was down and he's
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trying to make plays and then it ends up resulting
in a negative play. So I think it's smart if
you can create a feeling in a game that even
though you're down, you don't feel rushed. That's going to
help a young quarterback when you're talking calmly through the headset.
You know, it's crazy now in college football that they
have headsets, you know, that's all pro from my era.
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But when you can communicate clearly in a non rush tone,
a non panic tone to a young player, that helps.
So what I would say to the criticism is, you know,
if there's criticism for why aren't they going faster, whatever
seconds might have been saved, there's a benefit to the
calmness of the approach.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And yes, we can go back right now and say, hey,
it all worked out. And the reason why that nobody's
being too critical is because it was a win. Well,
what if you.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Could get into the mind of the quarterback and he
is like man, that really helped me that it didn't
feel rushed. The other thing is there was a drive
where they ran every single play as a running play.
So if you want to keep the other team off
the field, you know you're gonna go constant run plays,
and late in the game, you know you're gonna go run,
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run heavy. Well, take the time to let your offensive
line have a few more breaths, take the time to
let your quarterback who's running the football get a little
bit of recovery in the sports science of it. All right,
we're gonna go with the one a run right here,
the clock's going to be going. Why not just hey,
let's let's recover and then let's go attack. And so
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I you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
BYU made the plays when they needed to. Yes, there
was some fortunate ones. You know, when Bear put the
ball on the ground there close to the goal line,
BYU is fortunate. I don't know the lineman's name that
jumped on it, but you know, you talk about big
time plays, that was a big time play for that
guy to recover that football, you know, Will Farrin. I
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loved the way that he bounced back from the miss
earlier in the game, you know, to go into overtime
and in three plays. I think Dyu only lost yards
if my memory is right, I think it was like
was it fourth and thirteen?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Was that? What it was when he had to go
kick the like forty four or forty five? Whatever it was? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Man, that was that was kick.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Bro Oh it was a huge kick, guys. I mean,
I just like when I was watching that.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
How many times do we watch games where when a
team gets no positive yards and they put their kicker
in a forty five yard field goal just to send
it to another overtime is that kick missed and for
a kicker to have missed.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
An earlier one to come out and nail it that like,
that's huge. That was nails of that kid to do that.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
So BYU found a way in a lot of different
ways to win a game differently than they had won
all these previous games.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
To me, when you talk about special seasons.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
When you talk about maintaining a undefeated record, there is
usually always a game or two where that stuff has
to happen.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
A phase of the game is not as good as
it has been, and the other.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Phases and other players step up to make plays to
quite honestly preserve save.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
It and find a way to win. And defensively as well.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I mean, so many good plays were made late in
that game. And that's where I think if you want
to look at a team's competitive nature, you know, their
belief that late in games they can still win it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think Kolani has done a tremendous job of you.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Know, and it's not a perfect record, but I would
say his teams as of late have done such a
good job of late in game as opposed to leaning
on panic or worry, they lean on competitiveness and belief.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And I think that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
John Beck, former b YU great talking some BYU football
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back to back in back to back seasons. I mean
that that's that's a feat. Man. It's the first time
in BYU football history, and that includes the the golden
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era of the late seventies and early eighties, mid eighties
where BYU seemed to be unstoppable. They had the best
LDS recruits coming to them, They were throwing the ball
at a high level, and they were in in the
whack right like they were in the whack.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And that's what I was going to see, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Conference, Yeah, I would add this is also the strongest
conference and I know that, like you know, this year,
BYU hasn't seen yet the tougher teams in the Big Twelve.
But regardless whether it's your non conference schedule, conference schedule,
to have a program with as many wins as BYU
has had over the years and as many great Bowl seasons,
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and to say like BYU is for the first time
in history I started off six and oh there are
big twelve wins in those twelve games that we're talking
about six and oh last year six, this year, I
think it's an amazing accomplishment for.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
A team that, you know what year is, this is
this year three or two?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
This year two in the big twelve three three, Yeah,
you're three because Keiden had the first year, so year
three still kind of you're saying, this is new to
the conference.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
A little bit, and to have two six and those starts,
it's awesome. And to do it with the.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Freshman quarterback, Like I know that its has hasn't been
the toughest schedule, but for a freshman quarterback to step
in that was not with the program until June, for
the coaches to have confidence in him and for him
to go out and execute the offense regardless of how
it's shaped, regardless of how much has had to be
placed on his shoulders in the past game.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
He's executing the offense, he's distributing the ball, he's making
very sound decisions. You know, this the first game that
you saw some freshman this right, like putting the ball
on the ground in a run play, having a snap
go through his hands and kind of scrambling and then
forcing a ball like those are just football plays that
happened to everybody, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean that's you know, but you tend to see
it a little bit more with young guys.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I still think it's awesome what BYU has been able
to accomplish. And it's hats off to the program, to
the recruiting, to the culture, to the players that are there,
to you know, to Killanne as the head of all
of this. I mean, what an amazing era of BYU
football to be in the Big twelve. And I know
this sounds silly, but as a player that didn't get
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to play in the Royal colors, I think it's also
awesome that all of this is happening. When BYU is
representing a jersey, a sticker of everything with the Royal
I just to me, like my childhood memories of watching
BYU football through an Intenda that my dad had in
the backyard and watching you know, those late eighties, early
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nineties games and mid nineties and those jerseys.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean, our generation of kids, this is what's cool
for me.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And I know I'm giving a really long answer when
I sit on the couch with my kids and we
watch awesome BYU comebacks. I can't help remember the amazing
moments that I got to witness, and it's like the
same jerseys. It's just it's so cool to me, probably
because I never got to play in it, you know,
and I played that era of like just some strange
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jerseys in a row. I think it's so cool the
uniforms that, like do I used rocking right now as well?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, we finally at least got the two stripes on
the shoulder pad and a little bit of tradition with
this wretch y on our helmets, right.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, Bronco did an amazing job of bringing that back.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
I still remember that press conference when they unveiled it,
and I remember this feeling of like, dude, this is
awesome because that's what I grew up watching. Like quite honestly,
the quarterback that made me say that is absolutely what
I want to do for my entire life.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Was Ty Demmer, And it's just it's it's got something
special about it. John.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
We were able to pull stats, Brad Hammer, Ronald the
three man weaver. You actually toaded the ball seventeen times
in two games in two thousand and four. Do you
remember those games? By chance?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, I'm gonna guess hold on seventeen times, hold on seconds?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Well, well, don't I think that's sacks count as that too,
don't they don't they count as that? Because like I think,
because like I don't even know if my career rushing
yard which is in the positive, because I think I
think that the sacks go against the rushing yard is
But if I had.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah they do, yeah, yeah they do.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But yeah, but if I had to guess, I.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Think against Boise State, we were struggling to run the
ball and I remember, uh because I had a turf
toe and I remember just running feeling like bro I
am like beat up and I'm running the option is
that one of.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Them y Boise State, one of them state? And what
else on Boise State?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Uh, possibly New Mexico at the end of the year,
to try to get some wins.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yea eligible seventeen man.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
That's a lot of hits, John, that's a lot of hits.
Whether it's Sachs or rush speed hot, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
And I'm going to use this to talk about bear
Bachmeer because I don't like talking.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
About my own stuff on the radio.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
But like in like in those like in that era,
I remember feeling like I was not utilized as a
rushing quarterback in high school. I mean, we ran a
little bit, but you wouldn't have ever been like, oh,
that guy's gonna end up going and being a dull
threat guy. But because I was such a late developer
on my mission, all of a sudden strength and speed
and all of this kind of like came back. So
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like as a youth player, I ran a ton, but
in high school I hardly did. And then it came
back when I finally matured. And so that was, like
I said, that was my way to be on the field,
was running around a ton, But I quite honestly did
not have much experience in high school playing that style
of football.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Now this is where it comes to Bear. Bear entered
football as a running back. Bear all throughout high school
was utili a ton. I bet every season except his
senior year. He was deemed up a little bit and
he had to miss a bunch of games.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
But I would almost bet that kid was running between
five hundred to seven hundred and fifty yards and probably
carrying the ball one hundred plus a season.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So you take somebody with that type of.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Running experience, you know there's a shiftiness. I'll use Zach Wilson.
Go watch Zach Wilsons high school highlights. He is running
and scrambling all over the place. Why was he a
good runner in scrambler in college because he had tons
of experience doing it. Now, go to the play caller.
A Rod knows where Bear has tons of experience. The
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way to help a guy handle pressure situations, put him
in situations he's been in before. It's like, you don't
ask the Air Force, Army or Navy quarterback to go
bring you back from a twenty one point deficit throw
in the football all the time.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's not where they have their experience.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And so I think there was a savviness and a
smart moves by a Rod to recognize where his young
quarterback was at and say here's where I know the
play calls.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Will help him and he's comfortable in that space.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, it's been it's been fun to watch the utilization
of bear skill sets and and quite honestly, Bear enjoys that.
I mean I think even on that fake sprint out
keeper that he tucked and ran for a touch, I
mean like he loves that diving across the the the
goal line like that. I mean, that gets that dude
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hyped and elevated. And he's he's a pretty stoic young man.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So I don't think that was a fake rollout. I
don't legitimate.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
That's a two yeah, that's a two way he So
what they do is they give you, like if you
can take that quick pick, that quick now pick, because
what they're doing is they're sending one person along the
line of scrimmage that allows you to block everybody, so
you can pick the defender over him if it's not there.
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They want the quarterback. Number one is the throw. Number
two is the quarterback run. I think why Bear cut
it up so quick was because that outside edge got extended,
and so as soon as he saw that that pick
play wasn't there, he just put his foot in the ground. Again,
going back to Bear's experience, I mean, I wish I
could shows like highlights of the kid like it happened
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so many times, so many times that he.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Would do that, and so I think that's where he
knew right away the look. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Young quarterbacks when they enter college football and they're playing
an offense that has so many things that are different
from what they've done, different reads, different progressions. A lot
of the times young quarterbacks are trying to gain the
experience of seeing what it looks like because I haven't
been in that situation before. So a young guy that
hasn't been in that situation before, he's actually going to
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put his foot in the ground a step later there.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
He's not going to see it as defined.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
But somebody that's been in that situation maybe has had
similar plays in high school that are we're going.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
To give you this look and then you're going to
take off and go.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
They actually play a step ahead because they've seen that
look so many times, they've repped it more.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And that's that's the cool part about experience.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Experience allows you, even when you're not faster speed wise,
you can play the game a step faster because you've
seen it, you've experienced it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And you've felt it.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
And that's why I think you know for him, he
makes such a quick decision and that people thought like, oh,
that must be designed.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
No, no, it's still one to the pick play. Then
he can quarterback run right there.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
John Beck here on ESPN The Fan, John A. Couple
last things before we let you go. This BYU football
team is winning with complimentary football offense, defense, and special teams.
And you alluded to that in some of your comments
earlier in this interview, Like what stands out to you
about this team as a collective. You gave a lot
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of credit to Kolani. Obviously you got to give credit
to all these coaches that are essentially governing their own team.
Obviously A Rod on the offense, J Hill on the defense,
and then k Pop on the special teams. But really
what stands out to you about this complimentary style of
team over the last few years under Kloney?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Well, something that I really like is this football team
had high hopes and expects because last year the belief
was this is the best team. Like, even though last
year's team had a great season, everybody kind of knew
that this year's team was going to be the really
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special best team and they were excited for that. And
the reason I bring this point up is because there
are a lot of teams that enter a season with
high hopes, with great expectations. You know, I have done
a lot of work with the Penn State program because
of their quarterback and I'm watching them go through something
where they had playoff and national championship hope heading into
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the season, and you look at the situation that they're
in now. The coach is no longer with the program.
They're three and three. Sometimes high hopes also bring a
lot of expectation and pressure, And I think what's really
cool about this football team is look how many smiles
are on their faces. Look at when a player makes
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a play, how many guys are running down the sideline
pumped up for him.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I love the team that BYU is. I love the
joy that they feel.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I think it's an embodiment of who Kilanie Sataki is.
You look at the fire of Kilani when he had
a player that was being accused of targeting and you
saw him going after the refs. You have to have
that type of fire and intensity to play that game
that has to be in the program carried by key players.
But you also have to have that team atmosphere, that chemistry,
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that love of playing with your brother, that makes special
teams really come together and win games and critical moments
because everybody's playing for each other a certain way. And
also I talked about it earlier with the competitiveness. Do
you enjoy the opportunity of coming from behind late in
a game. Does that level of competitiveness and grit it's
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going to take to accomplish that?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Does that excite you? Or are you fearful of what
the outcome could be if you somehow lose and what
that might mean for your season.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Everybody experiences pressure with high expectations. Who enjoys it and
looks forward to the opportunities and who feels that pressure.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Mount week in and week out.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I think this BYU football team loves to play, loves
to play for each other, and has a belief that
it's no matter what the situation is, we have a way.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
That we can come back and battle and win.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
And you know, when I talked about those players playing
for each other, because Preston Rex is the San Clementy
kid and we love the Rex family, and you know,
like anything those boys do, were following it. I loved
when I saw Preston Rex cat that catch that ball
out into the flat the flat watch the sideline of
people recognize how cool of a moment it was.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That for prep was for Preston and the team. That
is what creates that that that that bond between players
that special teams. Special teams have special bonds between players, And.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I think that when I watch by U, I can
see that, and I think that's why games like this
game coming up, this Utah game, like this is what
it's going to take.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Utah's already what they're already like a two.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
And a half three point favorite or something like that
in our in BYU's own stadium, right like this is
going to be a challenge, big new kickoff is going
to be there, The atmosphere is going to be electric,
the fans are going to be going crazy, The Rock
is going to be doing everything they do. Quite honestly, guys,
I'm doing everything I can to try to find a
flight up there and crossing my fingers cross, crossing my
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fingers that my boys Pop Warner games get.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Done early and I can get up there, because I
think it is going to be.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
An awesome environment. Does that environment excite you as a
team or does that environment worry you as a team?
Of what if this season has a hiccup? And I
think Kialani's teams they choose the first one. I think
by nature the way that they're wired right now, they
love opportunities like this.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
What's your message to the Cougar football team heading into
Rivalry week and the Holy War Week?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Just be who you are when a team already has momentum,
which BYU does, just be who you are. I remember
it was my senior year and we had lost the
previous however many and I don't remember who was asking
me the interviews, but it was you know how you
kind of would sit on those chairs and you have
all the cameras around you and all the microphones that
are holding up their little things back then, and they're
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asking me questions. And I just remember this feeling of
like you guys are talking to me as if this
is like somehow a different game, like the field stays
the same, the ball stays the same.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Like it's like it's a game that stays the same.
We are going to be who we've been this entire year,
and trust it.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
And you know we and we were in a game
when we were down late and had to have that
hope and that belief and all those things. And because
of that, it's been a special game for us that
we're on that team. And I think by you guys,
like guys, you know, just be who you've been this
whole time. You guys have so many good things going
for you right now. Keep playing for each other, keep
the excitement going. You don't have to add pressure again.
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I hope I'm not answering too long, but I'll just
kind of give insight when I help players play for
big games, like it's a quarterback playing in the Michigan
Ohio State game, it's a quarterback playing in a Rose Bowl,
it's a quarterback playing in a playoff college game. When
I have conversations with them, we always talk about what
can we do to depressurize the situation. We hold the
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tools within ourselves as an individual and also collectively as
a team, to the way that we communicate with each other,
the way that we communicate on our own minds. How
do we depressurize the situation so we can go perform
at our best. Unfortunately, when pressure mounts, people can have
bad tactics. They don't use the right tools, and they
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overpress size the situation and they don't realize they've done it.
And then so they try to turn to well, I'll
work really hard, I'll just I'll try to do this
extra I'll and they're heaping so much pressure on themselves.
What are your tactics to depressurize situations.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
And just be you. I love the thing of great players.
We don't remember them because they go over and beyond
in those pressure moments. We remember them because they are
who they are, who they've always been. In those pressure moments,
the pressure doesn't make them significantly drop. And I think
that's the key. Just be you. Just go play this
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big time game and just be you.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
For those that are listening that need some quarterback help,
especially in the season, get some film eval best way
to reach out to three DQB and maybe maximize their
football IQ their vision of the football three through maybe
film evow through three DQB.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, look, there's an info email. We get requests, We
get things all the time where people, you know, shoot
us information.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Hey, you know I've trained with you guys. I know
you guys have done this stuff. My son is experiencing.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
You know, there's so much pressure on him right now
because it's the end of the season and these wins
for the playoffs and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I mean, look, we can help in every area. Just
shoot us an email.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
We have coaches that are always always helping players improve
and work to be their best, and especially right now
late in the season, even if it's something like arm fatigue,
spiral is getting a little bit wobbly for some reason.
It feels like I've lost five yards on my deep ball.
All of those things happen, and there's things that.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We can do to help.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, three D QB and John
always appreciate our time to get the things are hopping on.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, you guys are welcome, John.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Beck, Ladies and gentlemen. Hopefully he's able to arrive in style,
maybe a little bit late, but prior to kick off
in this Holy War down in Provo. He would love
it's he's making sure you know, there's a flight available,
probably be pretty costly to head kind of in a
late in a late afternoon type of game, you know,
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Welcome in former b YU great the quarterback Scientists of
three DQB. We got John Beck on the line. John,
how that was your weekend?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
It was good man.
Speaker 4 (01:33):
It was obviously full of football. Fun to watch the
Cougars get a big win. Sometimes I don't always get
to watch the game live because of my Pop Warner
games and so a lot of the times I'm.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Watching the game, you know, replayed and people have already
texted me and you know what, Hey, this is what
happened or this or that, you know, like I love
just getting to sit.
Speaker 4 (01:54):
There with my boys and watch the game live and
watching DYU have a comeback win on the road.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
It was is It was a great way to finish
off the night.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
It was awesome, John, What was the most rushing attempts
you ever had in your BYU career in a game,
do you remember?
Speaker 4 (02:11):
I don't know, man, you know that's kind of a
I just know that in my first two years as
a starter, we struggled.
Speaker 2 (02:17):
To run the football and so a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:19):
Of the times, and truly it's kind of how I
find I found my way on the field as a
freshman was because of my involvement in some of the
running game type stuff. We would run a lot of
gun speed option. We had some built in QB design
runs my freshman year where even the games I wasn't starting,
I would get put.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
In the game to run some of these design runs.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
So I don't know about how many times I ran it,
but I do know those first two years, just trying
to find ways to get yards, we would utilize the
QB run game, and I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
I definitely wasn't running at twenty two or however many
times Bear ran it. That's forting sure.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
Twenty two times, I think it was. Through the third
quarter in this game, he had only ran the ball
seven times, and I tweeted out at the end of
the third quarter, I'm like, hey, Bear is averaging you know,
in the teams sometimes getting up into fifteen or so carries,
and I'm like, I feel like they're going to run
him a little bit, even though they're playing from behind
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inclement weather on the road. Couple I iNTS. I was
like that they're going to start running him in some
way shape before I didn't think it would be twenty
two though, in order to win the game.
Speaker 4 (03:29):
Yeah, No, And look, I don't think that that's the
game plan to say, hey, let's let's go run Bear
close to twenty five times this game to kick off
kind of some hard dig twelve games, right, that's a
lot of hits that a quarterback has taken in the
run game.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
But what I think happened is you have weather issues,
you know.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Yes, Bear had a couple of turnovers, and I think
that the completion percentage, right, it was just I don't
want to call it an off night because he had
some really really good throws, but it was for a
young quarterback, probably the first time this year that things weren't.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Going pretty smooth. For the most part, BYU's passing attack
has been able to, you know, keep Bear in a
place where he's doing a lot of safe throws, a
lot of the throws are we know where we want
to go. If it's not there, we go to the
outlet or it's quick screens.
Speaker 4 (04:18):
That game on Saturday was actually requiring him to, I think,
see a little bit more. If you go into the
lineage of the defensive coordinator for that team and how
he came up, there's a lot of Rocky long New
Mexico San Diego State like that defense, like you.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Have to see a lot.
Speaker 4 (04:36):
They're going to throw a lot of different looks at you,
and at times you don't get the cleanest coverage details,
and that's that's by design. And so you know, it
showed a little bit a young quarterback kind of having
those those moments of some adversity. And I think what
Byu did was very smart. You are a I think
a top fifteen rushing attack in the country with LJ.
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Martin the offensive line. You have a quarterback that is
really good carrying the football. How do we take some
of this pressure off him so that we're not throwing
it on his shoulders to try to come back and win.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
We're not asking him to see the defense perfectly.
Speaker 4 (05:12):
We're not asking him to have pinpoint perfect throws in
a difficult weather game.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Let's lean on one of our.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
Biggest strengths, and that's the run game, and it's Bar
Bachmeier light in games running the football.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
If you want to talk about where.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
Bear is comfortable, and I know that Ben, you and
I have had this conversation before of just how he
played in high school. Bear did so many things in
high school, utilizing his legs late in games. At San Clemente,
he torched us twice in really close games, late in
games and even overtime with what he's able to do
with his legs, and he did that on Saturday night
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for BYU, How would you.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
Describe the play calling in this game? Then let's evaluate
a Rod what he was doing late in the game.
He received a little bit of criticism for, you know,
time management, but it seemed like that kept Bear Bachmeier
more so in a groove and maybe even allowed LJ
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to get a reprieve. I mean, LJ was probably pretty
tired in this game, having to toot twenty five times,
so going into a huddle not in hurry up. You
have a few issues with turnovers and inclement weather. It
seemed like a Rod was really calculated, very stoic, very calm,
and you saw that maybe with Bear and the play calling,
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give me your evalt.
Speaker 4 (06:34):
Well, I think when you look at some of the
plays that Bear you know, maybe slightly missed on or
like one of the interceptions, you know, the one interception
that was you know, a snap that was you know,
through his hands if you want to call it botch,
Like he's trying to make a play.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He sees a guy that flashes hands.
Speaker 4 (06:51):
We always tell receivers you have to be so careful
when you flash hands and you think you're so wide
open because you don't really really realize what coverages around you.
Sometimes as a quarterback, when a guy flash his hands,
you like, you see that, And so I think there
there was a moment where he was trying to you know,
he probably felt that the team was down and he's
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trying to make plays and then it ends up resulting
in a negative play. So I think it's smart if
you can create a feeling in a game that even
though you're down, you don't feel rushed. That's going to
help a young quarterback when you're talking calmly through the headset.
You know, it's crazy now in college football that they
have headsets, you know, that's all pro from my era.
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But when you can communicate clearly in a non rush tone,
a non panic tone to a young player, that helps.
So what I would say to the criticism is, you know,
if there's criticism for why aren't they going faster, whatever
seconds might have been saved, there's a benefit to the
calmness of the approach.
Speaker 2 (07:53):
And yes, we can go back right now and say, hey,
it all worked out. And the reason why that nobody's
being too critical is because it was a win. Well,
what if you.
Speaker 4 (08:02):
Could get into the mind of the quarterback and he
is like man, that really helped me that it didn't
feel rushed. The other thing is there was a drive
where they ran every single play as a running play.
So if you want to keep the other team off
the field, you know you're gonna go constant run plays,
and late in the game, you know you're gonna go run,
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run heavy. Well, take the time to let your offensive
line have a few more breaths, take the time to
let your quarterback who's running the football get a little
bit of recovery in the sports science of it. All right,
we're gonna go with the one a run right here,
the clock's going to be going. Why not just hey,
let's let's recover and then let's go attack. And so
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I you know, I don't think there's anything wrong with it.
BYU made the plays when they needed to. Yes, there
was some fortunate ones. You know, when Bear put the
ball on the ground there close to the goal line,
BYU is fortunate. I don't know the lineman's name that
jumped on it, but you know, you talk about big
time plays, that was a big time play for that
guy to recover that football, you know, Will Farrin. I
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loved the way that he bounced back from the miss
earlier in the game, you know, to go into overtime
and in three plays. I think Dyu only lost yards
if my memory is right, I think it was like
was it fourth and thirteen?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Was that?
Speaker 2 (09:20):
Was that? What it was when he had to go
kick the like forty four or forty five? Whatever it was? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Man, that was that was kick.
Speaker 2 (09:27):
Bro Oh it was a huge kick, guys. I mean,
I just like when I was watching that.
Speaker 4 (09:31):
How many times do we watch games where when a
team gets no positive yards and they put their kicker
in a forty five yard field goal just to send
it to another overtime is that kick missed and for
a kicker to have missed.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
An earlier one to come out and nail it that like,
that's huge. That was nails of that kid to do that.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
So BYU found a way in a lot of different
ways to win a game differently than they had won
all these previous games.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
To me, when you talk about special seasons.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
When you talk about maintaining a undefeated record, there is
usually always a game or two where that stuff has
to happen.
Speaker 2 (10:10):
A phase of the game is not as good as
it has been, and the other.
Speaker 4 (10:15):
Phases and other players step up to make plays to
quite honestly preserve save.
Speaker 2 (10:20):
It and find a way to win. And defensively as well.
Speaker 4 (10:23):
I mean, so many good plays were made late in
that game. And that's where I think if you want
to look at a team's competitive nature, you know, their
belief that late in games they can still win it.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
I think Kolani has done a tremendous job of you.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Know, and it's not a perfect record, but I would
say his teams as of late have done such a
good job of late in game as opposed to leaning
on panic or worry, they lean on competitiveness and belief.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
And I think that's awesome.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
John Beck, former b YU great talking some BYU football
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back to back in back to back seasons. I mean
that that's that's a feat. Man. It's the first time
in BYU football history, and that includes the the golden
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era of the late seventies and early eighties, mid eighties
where BYU seemed to be unstoppable. They had the best
LDS recruits coming to them, They were throwing the ball
at a high level, and they were in in the
whack right like they were in the whack.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
And that's what I was going to see, you know
what I mean?
Speaker 4 (11:28):
Conference, Yeah, I would add this is also the strongest
conference and I know that, like you know, this year,
BYU hasn't seen yet the tougher teams in the Big Twelve.
But regardless whether it's your non conference schedule, conference schedule,
to have a program with as many wins as BYU
has had over the years and as many great Bowl seasons,
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and to say like BYU is for the first time
in history I started off six and oh there are
big twelve wins in those twelve games that we're talking
about six and oh last year six, this year, I
think it's an amazing accomplishment for.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
A team that, you know what year is, this is
this year three or two?
Speaker 4 (12:07):
This year two in the big twelve three three, Yeah,
you're three because Keiden had the first year, so year
three still kind of you're saying, this is new to
the conference.
Speaker 2 (12:17):
A little bit, and to have two six and those starts,
it's awesome. And to do it with the.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Freshman quarterback, Like I know that its has hasn't been
the toughest schedule, but for a freshman quarterback to step
in that was not with the program until June, for
the coaches to have confidence in him and for him
to go out and execute the offense regardless of how
it's shaped, regardless of how much has had to be
placed on his shoulders in the past game.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 4 (12:42):
He's executing the offense, he's distributing the ball, he's making
very sound decisions. You know, this the first game that
you saw some freshman this right, like putting the ball
on the ground in a run play, having a snap
go through his hands and kind of scrambling and then
forcing a ball like those are just football plays that
happened to everybody, you know.
Speaker 2 (13:02):
I mean that's you know, but you tend to see
it a little bit more with young guys.
Speaker 4 (13:05):
I still think it's awesome what BYU has been able
to accomplish. And it's hats off to the program, to
the recruiting, to the culture, to the players that are there,
to you know, to Killanne as the head of all
of this. I mean, what an amazing era of BYU
football to be in the Big twelve. And I know
this sounds silly, but as a player that didn't get
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to play in the Royal colors, I think it's also
awesome that all of this is happening. When BYU is
representing a jersey, a sticker of everything with the Royal
I just to me, like my childhood memories of watching
BYU football through an Intenda that my dad had in
the backyard and watching you know, those late eighties, early
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nineties games and mid nineties and those jerseys.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I mean, our generation of kids, this is what's cool
for me.
Speaker 4 (13:52):
And I know I'm giving a really long answer when
I sit on the couch with my kids and we
watch awesome BYU comebacks. I can't help remember the amazing
moments that I got to witness, and it's like the
same jerseys. It's just it's so cool to me, probably
because I never got to play in it, you know,
and I played that era of like just some strange
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jerseys in a row. I think it's so cool the
uniforms that, like do I used rocking right now as well?
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Yeah, we finally at least got the two stripes on
the shoulder pad and a little bit of tradition with
this wretch y on our helmets, right.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
Yeah, Bronco did an amazing job of bringing that back.
Speaker 4 (14:28):
I still remember that press conference when they unveiled it,
and I remember this feeling of like, dude, this is
awesome because that's what I grew up watching. Like quite honestly,
the quarterback that made me say that is absolutely what
I want to do for my entire life.
Speaker 2 (14:44):
Was Ty Demmer, And it's just it's it's got something
special about it. John.
Speaker 3 (14:51):
We were able to pull stats, Brad Hammer, Ronald the
three man weaver. You actually toaded the ball seventeen times
in two games in two thousand and four. Do you
remember those games? By chance?
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Okay, I'm gonna guess hold on seventeen times, hold on seconds?
Speaker 4 (15:09):
Well, well, don't I think that's sacks count as that too,
don't they don't they count as that? Because like I think,
because like I don't even know if my career rushing
yard which is in the positive, because I think I
think that the sacks go against the rushing yard is
But if I had.
Speaker 3 (15:28):
Yeah they do, yeah, yeah they do.
Speaker 2 (15:30):
But yeah, but if I had to guess, I.
Speaker 4 (15:32):
Think against Boise State, we were struggling to run the
ball and I remember, uh because I had a turf
toe and I remember just running feeling like bro I
am like beat up and I'm running the option is
that one of.
Speaker 2 (15:45):
Them y Boise State, one of them state? And what
else on Boise State?
Speaker 4 (15:51):
Uh, possibly New Mexico at the end of the year,
to try to get some wins.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yea eligible seventeen man.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
That's a lot of hits, John, that's a lot of hits.
Whether it's Sachs or rush speed hot, you know.
Speaker 4 (16:06):
And I'm going to use this to talk about bear
Bachmeer because I don't like talking.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
About my own stuff on the radio.
Speaker 4 (16:13):
But like in like in those like in that era,
I remember feeling like I was not utilized as a
rushing quarterback in high school. I mean, we ran a
little bit, but you wouldn't have ever been like, oh,
that guy's gonna end up going and being a dull
threat guy. But because I was such a late developer
on my mission, all of a sudden strength and speed
and all of this kind of like came back. So
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like as a youth player, I ran a ton, but
in high school I hardly did. And then it came
back when I finally matured. And so that was, like
I said, that was my way to be on the field,
was running around a ton, But I quite honestly did
not have much experience in high school playing that style
of football.
Speaker 2 (16:52):
Now this is where it comes to Bear. Bear entered
football as a running back. Bear all throughout high school
was utili a ton. I bet every season except his
senior year. He was deemed up a little bit and
he had to miss a bunch of games.
Speaker 4 (17:07):
But I would almost bet that kid was running between
five hundred to seven hundred and fifty yards and probably
carrying the ball one hundred plus a season.
Speaker 2 (17:18):
So you take somebody with that type of.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
Running experience, you know there's a shiftiness. I'll use Zach Wilson.
Go watch Zach Wilsons high school highlights. He is running
and scrambling all over the place. Why was he a
good runner in scrambler in college because he had tons
of experience doing it. Now, go to the play caller.
A Rod knows where Bear has tons of experience. The
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way to help a guy handle pressure situations, put him
in situations he's been in before. It's like, you don't
ask the Air Force, Army or Navy quarterback to go
bring you back from a twenty one point deficit throw
in the football all the time.
Speaker 2 (17:55):
That's not where they have their experience.
Speaker 4 (17:57):
And so I think there was a savviness and a
smart moves by a Rod to recognize where his young
quarterback was at and say here's where I know the
play calls.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Will help him and he's comfortable in that space.
Speaker 3 (18:10):
Yeah, it's been it's been fun to watch the utilization
of bear skill sets and and quite honestly, Bear enjoys that.
I mean I think even on that fake sprint out
keeper that he tucked and ran for a touch, I
mean like he loves that diving across the the the
goal line like that. I mean, that gets that dude
(18:31):
hyped and elevated. And he's he's a pretty stoic young man.
Speaker 2 (18:35):
So I don't think that was a fake rollout. I
don't legitimate.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
That's a two yeah, that's a two way he So
what they do is they give you, like if you
can take that quick pick, that quick now pick, because
what they're doing is they're sending one person along the
line of scrimmage that allows you to block everybody, so
you can pick the defender over him if it's not there.
(18:59):
They want the quarterback. Number one is the throw. Number
two is the quarterback run. I think why Bear cut
it up so quick was because that outside edge got extended,
and so as soon as he saw that that pick
play wasn't there, he just put his foot in the ground. Again,
going back to Bear's experience, I mean, I wish I
could shows like highlights of the kid like it happened
(19:21):
so many times, so many times that he.
Speaker 2 (19:25):
Would do that, and so I think that's where he
knew right away the look. And here's the other thing.
Speaker 4 (19:30):
Young quarterbacks when they enter college football and they're playing
an offense that has so many things that are different
from what they've done, different reads, different progressions. A lot
of the times young quarterbacks are trying to gain the
experience of seeing what it looks like because I haven't
been in that situation before. So a young guy that
hasn't been in that situation before, he's actually going to
(19:53):
put his foot in the ground a step later there.
Speaker 2 (19:56):
He's not going to see it as defined.
Speaker 4 (19:58):
But somebody that's been in that situation maybe has had
similar plays in high school that are we're going.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
To give you this look and then you're going to
take off and go.
Speaker 4 (20:06):
They actually play a step ahead because they've seen that
look so many times, they've repped it more.
Speaker 2 (20:11):
And that's that's the cool part about experience.
Speaker 4 (20:15):
Experience allows you, even when you're not faster speed wise,
you can play the game a step faster because you've
seen it, you've experienced it.
Speaker 2 (20:24):
And you've felt it.
Speaker 4 (20:25):
And that's why I think you know for him, he
makes such a quick decision and that people thought like, oh,
that must be designed.
Speaker 2 (20:31):
No, no, it's still one to the pick play. Then
he can quarterback run right there.
Speaker 3 (20:37):
John Beck here on ESPN The Fan, John A. Couple
last things before we let you go. This BYU football
team is winning with complimentary football offense, defense, and special teams.
And you alluded to that in some of your comments
earlier in this interview, Like what stands out to you
about this team as a collective. You gave a lot
(20:58):
of credit to Kolani. Obviously you got to give credit
to all these coaches that are essentially governing their own team.
Obviously A Rod on the offense, J Hill on the defense,
and then k Pop on the special teams. But really
what stands out to you about this complimentary style of
team over the last few years under Kloney?
Speaker 4 (21:18):
Well, something that I really like is this football team
had high hopes and expects because last year the belief
was this is the best team. Like, even though last
year's team had a great season, everybody kind of knew
that this year's team was going to be the really
(21:38):
special best team and they were excited for that. And
the reason I bring this point up is because there
are a lot of teams that enter a season with
high hopes, with great expectations. You know, I have done
a lot of work with the Penn State program because
of their quarterback and I'm watching them go through something
where they had playoff and national championship hope heading into
(22:01):
the season, and you look at the situation that they're
in now. The coach is no longer with the program.
They're three and three. Sometimes high hopes also bring a
lot of expectation and pressure, And I think what's really
cool about this football team is look how many smiles
are on their faces. Look at when a player makes
(22:21):
a play, how many guys are running down the sideline
pumped up for him.
Speaker 2 (22:26):
I love the team that BYU is. I love the
joy that they feel.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
I think it's an embodiment of who Kilanie Sataki is.
You look at the fire of Kilani when he had
a player that was being accused of targeting and you
saw him going after the refs. You have to have
that type of fire and intensity to play that game
that has to be in the program carried by key players.
But you also have to have that team atmosphere, that chemistry,
(22:53):
that love of playing with your brother, that makes special
teams really come together and win games and critical moments
because everybody's playing for each other a certain way. And
also I talked about it earlier with the competitiveness. Do
you enjoy the opportunity of coming from behind late in
a game. Does that level of competitiveness and grit it's
(23:13):
going to take to accomplish that?
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Does that excite you? Or are you fearful of what
the outcome could be if you somehow lose and what
that might mean for your season.
Speaker 4 (23:23):
Everybody experiences pressure with high expectations. Who enjoys it and
looks forward to the opportunities and who feels that pressure.
Speaker 2 (23:30):
Mount week in and week out.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
I think this BYU football team loves to play, loves
to play for each other, and has a belief that
it's no matter what the situation is, we have a way.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
That we can come back and battle and win.
Speaker 4 (23:42):
And you know, when I talked about those players playing
for each other, because Preston Rex is the San Clementy
kid and we love the Rex family, and you know,
like anything those boys do, were following it. I loved
when I saw Preston Rex cat that catch that ball
out into the flat the flat watch the sideline of
people recognize how cool of a moment it was.
Speaker 2 (24:00):
That for prep was for Preston and the team. That
is what creates that that that that bond between players
that special teams. Special teams have special bonds between players, And.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
I think that when I watch by U, I can
see that, and I think that's why games like this
game coming up, this Utah game, like this is what
it's going to take.
Speaker 2 (24:19):
Utah's already what they're already like a two.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
And a half three point favorite or something like that
in our in BYU's own stadium, right like this is
going to be a challenge, big new kickoff is going
to be there, The atmosphere is going to be electric,
the fans are going to be going crazy, The Rock
is going to be doing everything they do. Quite honestly, guys,
I'm doing everything I can to try to find a
flight up there and crossing my fingers cross, crossing my
(24:43):
fingers that my boys Pop Warner games get.
Speaker 2 (24:45):
Done early and I can get up there, because I
think it is going to be.
Speaker 4 (24:48):
An awesome environment. Does that environment excite you as a
team or does that environment worry you as a team?
Of what if this season has a hiccup? And I
think Kialani's teams they choose the first one. I think
by nature the way that they're wired right now, they
love opportunities like this.
Speaker 3 (25:05):
What's your message to the Cougar football team heading into
Rivalry week and the Holy War Week?
Speaker 4 (25:13):
Just be who you are when a team already has momentum,
which BYU does, just be who you are. I remember
it was my senior year and we had lost the
previous however many and I don't remember who was asking
me the interviews, but it was you know how you
kind of would sit on those chairs and you have
all the cameras around you and all the microphones that
are holding up their little things back then, and they're
(25:35):
asking me questions. And I just remember this feeling of
like you guys are talking to me as if this
is like somehow a different game, like the field stays
the same, the ball stays the same.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Like it's like it's a game that stays the same.
We are going to be who we've been this entire year,
and trust it.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
And you know we and we were in a game
when we were down late and had to have that
hope and that belief and all those things. And because
of that, it's been a special game for us that
we're on that team. And I think by you guys,
like guys, you know, just be who you've been this
whole time. You guys have so many good things going
for you right now. Keep playing for each other, keep
the excitement going. You don't have to add pressure again.
(26:16):
I hope I'm not answering too long, but I'll just
kind of give insight when I help players play for
big games, like it's a quarterback playing in the Michigan
Ohio State game, it's a quarterback playing in a Rose Bowl,
it's a quarterback playing in a playoff college game. When
I have conversations with them, we always talk about what
can we do to depressurize the situation. We hold the
(26:38):
tools within ourselves as an individual and also collectively as
a team, to the way that we communicate with each other,
the way that we communicate on our own minds. How
do we depressurize the situation so we can go perform
at our best. Unfortunately, when pressure mounts, people can have
bad tactics. They don't use the right tools, and they
(26:59):
overpress size the situation and they don't realize they've done it.
And then so they try to turn to well, I'll
work really hard, I'll just I'll try to do this
extra I'll and they're heaping so much pressure on themselves.
What are your tactics to depressurize situations.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
And just be you. I love the thing of great players.
We don't remember them because they go over and beyond
in those pressure moments. We remember them because they are
who they are, who they've always been. In those pressure moments,
the pressure doesn't make them significantly drop. And I think
that's the key. Just be you. Just go play this
(27:36):
big time game and just be you.
Speaker 3 (27:39):
For those that are listening that need some quarterback help,
especially in the season, get some film eval best way
to reach out to three DQB and maybe maximize their
football IQ their vision of the football three through maybe
film evow through three DQB.
Speaker 4 (27:57):
Yeah, look, there's an info email. We get requests, We
get things all the time where people, you know, shoot
us information.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Hey, you know I've trained with you guys. I know
you guys have done this stuff. My son is experiencing.
Speaker 4 (28:09):
You know, there's so much pressure on him right now
because it's the end of the season and these wins
for the playoffs and all this stuff.
Speaker 2 (28:15):
I mean, look, we can help in every area. Just
shoot us an email.
Speaker 4 (28:19):
We have coaches that are always always helping players improve
and work to be their best, and especially right now
late in the season, even if it's something like arm fatigue,
spiral is getting a little bit wobbly for some reason.
It feels like I've lost five yards on my deep ball.
All of those things happen, and there's things that.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
We can do to help.
Speaker 3 (28:40):
John Beck, Ladies and gentlemen, three D QB and John
always appreciate our time to get the things are hopping on.
Speaker 2 (28:47):
Yeah, you guys are welcome, John.
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Beck, Ladies and gentlemen. Hopefully he's able to arrive in style,
maybe a little bit late, but prior to kick off
in this Holy War down in Provo. He would love
it's he's making sure you know, there's a flight available,
probably be pretty costly to head kind of in a
late in a late afternoon type of game, you know,
(29:12):
without this being pre planned. But hopefully he can get
down to rep the y for the Holy War. We'll
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