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We appreciate you joining us for yet another edition of
Sport Court. Now let's start off with this one five
star Ohio State commit and high schooler is filing a
lawsuit to allow for high schoolers to make nil deals.
What's going on with this?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Just a matter of time, Ben, You know, we've reviewed
and talked about a lot the cases have led up
to this, the Ed O'Bannon case and the Austin case
that made it to the United States Supreme Court, which
really opened the door for amateur athletes to profit from
their name image lightness. Well, all states but six states
allow for high school athletes to have nil deals and
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make money from their name image enlightness. Well. One of
the states that does not is the Great State of Ohio.
Enter Jamier Brown, who is a five star recruit at
Ohio they commit wide receiver. He and his mother have
now filed a lawsuit against the Ohio High School Athletic
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Association sedually alleging that, hey, this is not fair. They're
they're kind of putting forth the same arguments that happened
in the O'Bannon and the Austin cases. Say one thing,
the anti trusting, but they're saying this isn't really fair,
it's outdated, it's limited, it's not fair to Ohio athletes.
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They say a blanket ban not only singles out Ohio's
good athletes, but for unequal treatment. It's unlawfully suppresses their
economic liberties, freedom of expression, restraints competition. Jamiri's wife also
his mother point too, you know that this would really
benefit to their family, and in reality, sometimes these NIL
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bills really do help these families. The Ohio State Athletic
Association has come out with a statement. You know, they've
been sued now, and they said, you know, this is
the type of thing that we saw coming. We had
it scheduled to do a referendum vote to see if
we wanted to keep this in place or allow the
highest athletes to profit from their name, image of likeness.
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And they even said, hey, we might just put an
emergency referendum in place to get this addressed. They don't
like being sued, and they probably realized that this is
not going to really be in place too long. One
interesting note is that Jamiir has scheduled to visit to
Notre Dame even though he's committed to a house date.
You know, and maybe Notre Dame flips him because the
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great State of Ohio is not going to let him
make an il money.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It's just insane that you could limit you know, you know, name,
image and likeness deals from being executed like like federally, Like,
what what can be done here to maybe make changes?
I mean I'm never a you know, federal government guy,
but in this particular situation, you're like, man like, if
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states are limiting earning potential of individual athletes, how do
you address this maybe from a national level.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, it's interesting you you and I talked that way, Ben,
because before the Austin case came down, we didn't we
couldn't even perceive of the nil deals for college athletes, right,
I mean, now it's become so commonplace that you know,
we see it as fairness for them to profit from
their name, image and likeness, and you know that it
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doesn't extend to the high schol athletes. I think the
response is that, you know, you know, states are given
certain rights, and the state of Ohio is, along with
five other states, have decided that, you know, they have
administrative rules in place, which are essentially laws that limit
certain things. I think before time you're going to see
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that not one of these states, you know, because it
does fly in the face of the Alton decision. Really,
so they could make that claim that it's not. You know,
in the United States Supreme Court comes down with the
decision is it is the law of the land, you know,
so they could make that argument. I don't think this
is gonna hold very long. I think Jamiir is gonna
get his nil de Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I believe so as well. Let's move on to another subject.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Logan Paul's Prime Hydration is suing Lionel Messi over false advertising.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
These are two big names in the hydration beverage industry, right,
which is big business obviously. So on the one hand,
we got Logan Paul with Prime, and then on the
other is Lionel Messi, and he's got a company called
Moth Hydration, and so he's got a new drink that
he's out there promoting and on their website and on
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TV and commercials. And so what's happened is there's been
a lawsuit brought by Logan Paul in the state of Florida,
and there this is really a false advertising lawsuit and
it's brought under Florida's you know, trade practices and deceptive
and unfair practices laws. Basically, Messi in the advertising says
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how he couldn't find the right hydration drink, and so
he went about finding you know, a drink of his own,
and he you know, discovered the right flavors and the
proper blend of electoral heights and everything else, and he's
got this drink that he wants to share with the world.
So he portrays a very close involvement with the development
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of the drink. Well, the other part of the story
is is that back in New York, there's an ongoing
lawsuit between Prime and Moss Hydration, and in that other
lawsuit under oath, Messi gave testimony that he really didn't
have a lot of involvement in the production and development
of the drink. And so these are contradictory statements. And
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now Logan Paul's team with Prime, they're using that against Messi,
and there it's really messing up everything. But that's I
think part of their legal strategy here is to hey,
let's maybe apply some pressure on them in a new
case in Florida and see if that can get us
what we want in our case in New York. The
case in New York involves, you know, some claims of
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monopoly and things like that. But so it'll be interesting
to see how this thing plays out.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, a few years ago I saw like, just like
this prime hydration popping up everywhere. I'm like, this is
not even good for anyway. That's besides the point. But
it's always intriguing to me to see how these athletes,
how these influencers, uh you know, navigate these uh in
and market these products. So uh, let's uh, let's move
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on court fines for Atlanta Falcons in a work comp
claim by an ex player.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Tell us what's going on with this workman's comp claim?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, man, I think this is a really interesting case
and something we've never talked about much because I didn't
really know they existed. But you know, everyone's heard of
workers' compensation claims. And workers' compensations claims grew out of
a situation where someone is on the job, working for
their employer in the course of scope of their employment,
and they are injured. Picture a construction worker who falls
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off a ladder and tweaks his back or breaks his leg.
He makes a worker's complaim and is entitled to workers'
comp benefits, which includes wages, medical expenses, different benefits. You know, Ben,
if you're sitting there at your desk today and you
get a paper cut on your hand, Well, you're in
the course of scope of your employment and you can
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make a workers comp claim against Broadway Media. Well, our guy,
Wayne Gandhi is a fifteen year NFL veteran who played
last played in two thousand and nine. He played for
five different teams, one of them was the Atlanta Falcons. Well,
in twenty fifteen, he filed in the state of California,
and that's important. He filed for workers' comp benefits. And
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he chose California because California is very favorable to workers
and they have pretty liberal workers' comp stances on this.
And so when I heard this, I thought, this is strange.
You know that an athlete, what he's claiming is years
and years of cumulative injuries, wear and tear on his
bodies that all happened while what on the job as
a football player, while what working for his employer, the
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different teams he played for, and he's claiming, Hey, I'm
entitled to workers' comp benefits as they apply to my injuries. Well,
he went to this is an administrative thing when he
went to the workers' compboard and they agreed with him. Well,
the Atlanta Falcons jumped in and said, oh, not so fast.
They appealed the decision to the Court of Appeals, and
the Court of Appills came down on the decision. They said, yeah,
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we don't agree that the Atlanta Falcons are on the
hook for this because they applied to formula that said,
formula you didn't play a certain percentage of your games
in the state of California, which is required for California
law to apply. They apply to They looked at it
and said, oh, yeah, by the way, you you did
play in California a number of times over your career,
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but it only amounted to seven percent of your games.
And he was incidentally drafted by the Rams, so that
was one of the teams, and they said you got
to have twenty percent of your time for this to apply,
so he was out of luck on that. And I
this only really applies to the Falcons, is this claim.
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I don't know about the other We're just reporting that
because the Falcons have won on this. I don't know
about the other four teams. But I found it really
interesting because you know, players in all sports are getting
hurt all of the time, and even when they retire,
guess what they have nagging injuries from pain and injuries
that they had from their time while playing. And I
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kind of thought they were exempt from these type of
claims simply because through the collective bargaining agreement and the
unions they saw this as a well, you know, you
athletes are getting hurt all the time, and you know,
if we open the floodgates for this. So I don't
know the answer to this. Is interesting to me that
this came up. Interesting to me that this came up.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, that is interesting. The workmen's comp element of it all.
I mean, look, there's a lot of shout out to you, brother,
appreciate you being here. You know, like the nc double
as run into this obviously with with their you know,
some of their litigation and legislation that they've they've had
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to deal with, but the NFL really hasn't been They've
been somewhat protected by these workmen's comp claims.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
And so why why is that?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Why why is it that that workman's comp you know, uh,
and and I guess injuries sustained on the job that
end up impacting you two, three, four, five, six years
down the road aren't necessarily always fong under workmen's comp claims.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Do you think, well, before I read this story day,
I would have thought that was the case, but apparently
there are you know, the way this is reported in California,
I think these other teams weren't exempt from it. So
it sounds like some of these claims have come for
cumulative injuries. But you know, California applied this percentage thing,
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and yeah, I don't know if this is now no
means that he could go to the state of Georgia
and file of workers complaim. I think I always thought
part of the reason was the NFL Players Association and
the retirement funds and all of that went into place
to have medical care and that type of thing to
address this very thing. I'd assume that that's kind of
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how they'd cut this out and kind of you know,
work themselves out of the workers claims, because you know,
a player gets hurt and gets puts on injured reserve,
there's already things in place of how he gets paid,
how he gets compensated. Certainly his medical care is going
to be covered, and I think there is the retirement
plans where you hit your certain pensions where you do
have medical coverage after your retirement. So that's what I assumed,
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but our guy Winn Gandhi didn't think that that was
enough in place filed the worker complaims.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Complaims, Let's move on to Drake versus Kendrick Lamar for
all the hip hop enthusiasm the distrack lawsuit. Court dismisses
Drake's suit nfl avoids a discovery claim.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
What's going on here?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah, this grows out of the super Bowl halftime show,
right that Kendrick Lamar put on and and one of
those songs was not Like Us, and that's the distract.
One of them that calls out Drake and as says
some things about him, including call him a pedophile and
different things like that. And Drake of course didn't like that,
and so he brought his own lawsuit. It wasn't against
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Kendrick Lamar directly, but it really against the record label,
saying they shouldn't have even released this song because it
was defamatory. And so this is a defamation lawsuit that
he brought. And I think it's pretty interesting as far
as I know, this is one of the first times
that a judge is weighed in on whether or not
a rap battle and these diss tracks whether these are
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statements of fact or statements of opinion, and the judge
found that it was these are just opinions, right. This
is part of what these dis tracks are is it's
an escalating battle of who can diss the other person more.
And so there's a lot of things thrown out there,
and the judge is basically saying, hey, these aren't statements
of fact, and so they dismissed the case. But like
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you said in the lead in, then I mean the
NFL is probably breathing a sigh relief because had the
case gone on and survived this motion to dismiss, it's
possible the NFL would have had to answer some questions
about how they allowed Kendrick Lamar to play the song
at halftime, and you know whether or not they should
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have stepped in and done anything. But now it's a
moot point and the rap battle. It's just opinions, opinions.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Just opinions. The drama continues there. Let's talk about low
cool rivalry drama.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
This was crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I saw this come across my feet yesterday and still
getting traction obviously today. The rivalry week always brings volatility
and in controversy. Apparently there was a man arrested for
allegedly threatening to shoot Utah fans at a b YU
football game.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Give us the latest.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, this is a whole new level of you know what,
you know, the the rivalry, great, game is great and
for the most part, everyone you know. But occasionally there's
the bad apple and this one takes it to another level.
Thank you for social media. But a gentleman who presumably
is a BYU fan, but BYU is not going to
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claim him in any way, shape or form. He's just
a guy who's unhinged. He came out with a couple
of statements on social media. Quote anyone wearing red on
Saturday is getting shot. He takes it to another level.
Come to Lovelle Edwards Stadium and enjoy a bullet in
your head. Bring your kids too. Well, this was reported
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and law enforcement jump in and he has been arrested
and held on suspicion of threats of violence and obstruction
of justice. He has not been formally charged yet. That's
when we'll see what happens and maybe his name will
be reported, which, thank you social media, you're going to
actually get some fame for it, or infamy. So yeah,
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bad luck you know, and nobody likes to see this,
and so the Rivalry Week so local interest and that's
why we're talking about it, talking about.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It crazy times.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
There's been many controversial things that have happened over the
years in this rivalry game amongst fans I mean, I
mean amongst players, cheerleaders. I mean, what you know from
your perspective, Like, I mean, do we do we know?
How how many lawsuits have stemmed from the rivalry or
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Rivalry Week.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
I want to I wonder.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
If anything happened with Kyle Whittingham, you know, I think
his family was you know, purportedly assaulted at Lavelle Edwards Stadium.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
There was the the b YU fan.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
That tried to assault the University of Utah cheerleader last
year up at Rice Echols. There was the son of
a big or big Utah donor that threw a bottle
and hit the head and knocked out concussed a women's
cheerleader for BYU.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
I mean, we should start, we should aggregate how.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Many how many Rivalry Week lawsuits have have come forth
over the years.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, I don't know that there's been I haven't heard
of any lawsuits per se, you know, there's the there's
the beer on my family's head, Max fall incident. You know,
I think everyone just gets reported. I don't know of
any lawsuits would have happened because of these incidents. You know,
maybe maybe there was one last year, the bottle that
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was there was failed security, but I haven't heard that.
Maybe Garrett could jump in on that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Just we got you, guys, did I lose you?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm not hearing them all right?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Well, let's call that a segment.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
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All right, let's welcome in one of my favorite walk
ons all time in BYU football history. He played in
this rivalry game and unfortunately he did not get a
win in this rivalry game. But he's gonna tell us about,
you know what he remembers about this rivalry game and
teach us a little bit about offensive line plate. How
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it's gonna be one and or lost in the trenches
former BYU.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Great offensive line.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We got Parker dah here live was a Parker what
uh Man?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Doing good, doing really good. Excited to be here and
excited to talk about the game.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You were able to embrace your running back here Jamal.
Not too long ago he had to take off. But
how cool is he to reunite with Jamal oh Man?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
So many good memories with that guy. It was great
to see him. It's been a long time since I've
seen him, you know. It's it's crazy how the years
go by and almost a decade later, right, you know,
But no, it was great to see him.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
And man, I love playing with him.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Some of the memories I had with Jamal is just
being in the huddle with him, you know, in those
big moments and the emotion that he had, right, Like
he played with so much emotion, so much passion, right
and just just a great lead right for our team
and ran super hard, and you know, it was it
was great to see him.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, yeah, I felt like the offensive line they moved
the lion of scrimmage. Well in that twenty sixteen game,
close one right came down to the wire two point conversion,
but do you would you agree with that assessment, like
when b YU wins this rivalry game, it's typically one
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in the trenches.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
For whatever reason, right, every year we play, you know,
Utah this rivalry game, I feel like it's always a
close game and always comes down to the wire. Obviously
we don't like that, right as bou fans, but you know,
the game is one of the trenches, right. And when
we played that twenty sixteen year, in that game that
we lost in that two point conversion, man, they had
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Hunter Dimmick, they had a Mocha Fisi, they had Cody Barton,
a few guys that were just stars, right, And remember
playing against those guys and preparing for that game and
just you know, knowing how tough their defense was and
how physical.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
That they were. But we could have beat them, right.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
I mean we threw a pick six on the first
play of the game, and you know that was that
was my that was my first moment in that game.
And I remember thinking before the game started, like, man,
I'm about to play playing the biggest game of my career, right,
and then we started off with the pick six and
you take that one play back, we win that game. Right,
I could say that about any play, but you know, big,
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big moments.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, I mean this, Uh, this game means a lot
of community, it means a lot of families, it.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Means a lot to these individual schools.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Uh, it's a It's more than just a game, right,
this is a This is one of the biggest games,
I think on the West Coast. I think it's an
underrated rivalry game. I think the nation is becoming aware
just how special and singular this rivalry game is from
your perspective, right, Like, where does it rank out amongst
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the best rivalry games in college football?
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Oh, it's got to be one of the top games, right.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
I think I saw a statistic on social media the
other day that I think this is the most expensive game,
right or expensive seat that, yeah, anywhere in the country
right now?
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Yeah, this week, right now, this week?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yees.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
So, I mean that alone just tells you the amount
of passion people have for this game. And obviously you
have the SEC and you've got some big rivalries there.
But you know, you see it in the interviews with
Kyle Whittingham and Kilawney, right, Like, obviously there's a lot
of tension right between the schools and a lot of
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passion in the community. Lots lots of stuff going on,
but it's one of the biggest rivalries in the country.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
What are some of the things that you're looking forward
to on Saturday six pm kick goff under the lights
of Lavelle.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
This offensive line, this defensive line. They've been tremendous thus
far this season.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I know you've been able to watch what stands out
to you about the offensive defensive line play thus far
this year?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Yeah, you know, watching the O line the past few years.
What I'm noticing this year is I feel like the
O line has had a few years with the coaching
staff and they're really playing in sync, playing in Unison.
They've got a young quarterback, right barr Bachmeyer, and he's
he's very talented, done a great job this season.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
But they're playing really, really well together.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
You know.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Obviously Utah has got a great defensive front. They always
put together a great defensive front, you know. But one
of the things I want to see coming into this
game is I want to see us start fast.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Right, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I feel like the games where we've struggled in years
past is where we take too long, right, we come
out of the gate second half, right, or you know,
vice versa. We come out playing strong and then we
end up you know, they get us from you know,
when we're we're we're ahead. But man, if we could
come out just playing fast, being comfortable, being confident in
our ability, I think I think we take to win.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
The last two times by wins this game. They don't
turn the ball over. That's another key component here. Win
the trench warfare game. Don't cough up the football, be
at least neutral or in the plus.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
In the turnover marchin game. Ye, that helps, and so
uh when when.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
B yu Even at the time though, even I want
to say that twenty sixteen game, I think we were
plus in the turnover margin even though we did give
up a pig six, but we still fell short that game.
It's hard to to come back from a defensive score,
even a special team score, and win the game, even
if you are plus in the turnover margin.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Like thinking back in that game and thinking about that
twenty sixteen game, defense played lights out right, Yeah, that
was a big, big game for them. And then I
think offensively, right, we would get momentum in a drive
and then you know, we would you know, turn the
you know, have a three and out and punt it
and flip things around. But I mean, ultimately, right, if
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we can, if we can come into the game where
defense is just playing how they're playing, Hopefully everyone's healthy.
Hopefully we got Jack Kelly, you know, we got Isaiah
Glasker coming in and playing ball, and you know, I
think that defensively we can shut him down.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Can't wait to see it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
If you had the ears of the BYU Cougar football
team prior to this game, right, just down a practice
or even the locker room. What's the message, What's what's
the message to this BYU Cougar football team before they
take the field versus the utes of the North Man.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
I think Kilani said it best. They don't know, but
they're about to. You know, they don't know, but they're
about to know. Right, So I mean, at the end
of the day, right, be confident in your ability play
at one play at a time, trust the scheme, right,
but you got to play it till that very.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Last play, very last whistle.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
And if we do that right, they're gonna have a
they're gonna have a memory that they're going to think
about the rest of their life, you know, winning the game.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yes, indeed, ninety seventh meeting, long standing rivalry, BYU has
won the last two. But in the modern era, Utah
has dominated this rivalry. Post twenty ten, they went nine straight,
nine straight wins and that's the longest winning streak in
(30:08):
this in this rivalry history. Now, BYU had a nine
straight wins from like in the late seventies, early eighties,
right in their glory era, and from twenty ten to
twenty and twenty three, that was the Utah glory era,
you know it, even going back two thousand and eight,
(30:28):
probably two thousand and four, two thousand and four to
twenty twenty three, those twenty years, Utah has been a
really good to great, some would say elite football program.
And now right finally BYU has resources, TV money, nil backing,
(30:50):
free market, capitalistic, nil transfer, portal market.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
They've been able to take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Seems as if BYU is in a place where they've
already caught up to Utah despite the thirteen year head start.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
How impressive is that?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And do you feel like BYU's caught up now after
being behind for thirteen years?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Yeah, I do you know it's funny when my younger
brother Wyatt walked on to BYU a few years ago.
I actually got a chance to talk to Colonnie a
lot about that at one of the practices and I
and I asked him, I'm like, how is how is
this all working now with nil and recruiting and getting
guys because at that time, I think we'd saw a
handful of players leave from bou and go to Utah
(31:39):
and Keenan Peeley, right, is that who?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well, Keenan went to Tennessee, JA gave Judy Lowly went
to Tennessee. We have John Henry Daily and Logan Fano
went to Utah. That's they're gonna be your starting defensive
ends for Utah.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yeah, So I just remember talking about that, and I
remember Klannie said that they were doing everything in their power,
uh to to do what they needed to do to
make Bou an elite program nationally. They're they're not trying
to be top twenty five. They're not trying to, you know,
make it to the the Bowl game, right like they
want to win. They want to win a national championship, right.
So that tells you a lot about commonality. You know
(32:18):
Tom Home at the time. Right now it's you know Santiago.
You know, they want to win, and so I think
that they're there where they want to be out with Utah. Right,
they brought in Kyle Winningham, Right, they brought in previous
Utah or b a u Alum Right, yep, Jason Beck,
Mike Simon boy Deptmer Right. I played with a lot
(32:40):
of those guys, right, played under Jason Beck. You know,
So I think that that that Utah you know that
they're an elite program. They've done really well. But I
think BOU is right there with them.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, it was with resources. Yeah, it's interesting the cross
pollination between the two schools.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
There's been like trades, if you will, Harvey Longey coming
from Utah to b YU, didn't you play hard? Yeah,
Austin Lee Utah to b YU. You know, Carson Ryan
from Utah to b YU, right, kelto town of Austin,
from Utah to b YU. Then you see like Devin
(33:22):
KUFUSI go from Bya, you know what I mean. You
see Logan and John Henry daily and there's been cross
pollination now in the coaching staff too. Yep, like no
other rivalry no other no other universities have what we're experiencing.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Here in Utah.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
And I think that's why Big noon kickoffs here to
familiarize themselves with this rivalry. I think Dave Portnoy stool presidente.
You know, he's starting to feel and realize what this
rivalry is all about.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And it's gonna be put on the map. This is
a big game. This may be the biggest robbery game.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
In the country, well in our history though. Yeah, like
depending like this is a power conference now. Both of
both teams are looking to get to Arlington. This may
be a determining factor on whether or not you get
to Arlington to win a big pol championship and get
to the CFP.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
Yep, No, I get that.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
You know, it's it's uh, you know, I have a
lot of respect for for Jason Beck and you know
Coy and Micah you know, like looking into you know,
their their scheme. It's been interesting to watch them play
this year, right because a lot of the concepts that
they're doing at the US the same stuff that I
had played in under an eye right when he when
he was the offensive coordinator. But you know, it's you know,
(34:43):
as far as going back into the conference play.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
You know, like this is this has got.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
To be a nationally recognized game where people need to
know and feel right that there's tension, there's feelings, right,
there's emotions that going on. I mean you look at
Jason Beck and you look at these guys. They they
coached at by U, right, they played for by U.
Kyle Whitningham played for BOU.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Right.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
I mean Kilanne coach at Utah, Right. A lot of
the guys at at BOU coach at Utah.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Right.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
So these are guys that have been in the same
place for a long time. Right, They know each other,
They played with each other. You know that at one point, right,
they were brothers. Right, and then this week all that
tension and love and passion is all gonna come out
six pm.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Crazy time. How do you think this game plays out?
What's your score prediction? Parker dob Are you gonna go
there for me? You ready to go on record?
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Right on record? Oh yeah, we can't put money on this, right.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Well, well we could.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
We can have a friendly Betridly.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
You know we can. You and I can do a
friendly bet or something like that.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I'm gonna go b YU. Let's say thirty one Utah fourteen,
thirty one to fourteen.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Oh, that's a dominating.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Dominating like if BYU.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Wins and they win in a convincing way and they
put Kyle Whittingham into retirement with three games straight of
L's man, I don't I don't know if there was
any other way to balance out that. That would be
the way to balance out this rival, even though you've
been dominated right to a certain degree from twenty ten
(36:31):
to present day. Like forcing Kyle Whittingham in retirement like
that would be like the icing the cherry on type
of BYU fans. Like the fact that the PAC twelve died,
And you can point to the fact that Utah was
a contributing factor to the PAC twelve dying because of
the way that they they had their internal media consultant
(36:54):
at the University of Utah.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
No over evaluate the value of each individual pactal school
in their negotiation with ESPN.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
And Fox, and so they came into it thinking.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
No, we're worth more like fifty million per school and
ESPN's like, No, Fox didn't even want anything to do it.
They were the former media rights distributor. They didn't even
come to the table. They're like, yeah, let whoever else
wants to get in. So ESPN's like, okay, well this
is your fair market value. No, Utah's internal consultants said no, no, no, no,
it's fifty million, right, fifty million. So like that led
(37:29):
to the destruction of the PAC twelve, the hubris, the
pompous nature, right, and then it forced them.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
They went kicking in stream. They were the.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Last ones there, like, fine, we'll go to the Big twelve. Fine,
but we believe we're Big ten material because we're an
our one research institution and we owned the PAC twelve, right,
we own Like I'm giving you all this because it's
like if BYU forces Kyle Whittingham into retirement with three
state losses, I'm.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Like, you think you did you think retire?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh yeah, no, I think it'd be forced to retire.
I think it'd be forced to retire. It'd be interesting,
it'd be interesting, Like.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I think it could come to that.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
It could come to that, especially if bou wins by
like seventeen points, like you know what I mean, Like
like a thirty one to fourteen win.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
That's a dominating win in this rallery game.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, like anything above like anything at like above eight points.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
It's like that's a good win. Oh yeah, because it's
not just like necessarily.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Like a field game winning field goal or ot game
or a two point conversion game.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Do we have a stat on that?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
So out of the last thirty one games, so it'll
go last thirty years, thirty games, nineteen and twelve, so
Utah has won nineteen games, bas won twelve nineteen of
those are one score games.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Wow, I insane.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
I'm gonna keep my prediction thirty one fourteen, keeping it,
holding it.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Wow, that'd be crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
That would bounce out the universe, the BYU fan universe.
They'd just be like yes, like I don't know which one.
They'd be happy about the fact that the PAC twelve
died Ding Dong, that Dick Wicked, which is dead, you know,
the PAC twelve pack eight pack, then stiff arming b
Yu due to you know whatever biggot you know, biggo
tree that they employed internally, right, religious.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Bigotry and more. But whatever their justifications are, it is
what it is.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Or the fact like bau forcing co whitting him in
her time I don't know which one they'd rejoice more in,
but they'd be rejoicing this.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
This is a big game. This is a huge game. Parker.
Doll ladies and gentlemen. Parker, give us a brief update.
What you're doing for work? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Family, Yeah, everything's going great. Family is great. Got four
kids now, just started.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Coaching youth football.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
That's what we'll talk about.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
I've got I'm coaching the A team and the B team.
So that's been a party, trying to coach two things.
Got both of our teams going to the semi finals.
Shout out to Mountain View Bruins. Let's go shout out
to the Bruins.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
It's been a new thing.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I've been went from PG wearing blue to mount View
wearing red down there with Wannie Unga, which from Mountain
View High School and Alani Fua and Louis La right
coaching those guys.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
But it's been a blast. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
Never in my life did I think I was going
to be an offensive coordinator with a bunch of ten
year olds. But I'm slinging it right now, right well,
every play, you.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Guys are just just ripping it right.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
Throw the slants.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
No, no power on game, none of that.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Spurn it out, air raid, air raid all day. No,
I can't believe it. We run the ball, We run
the ball. Get that GT power you know, coming in
that little counteraction.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
But yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Things have been good. Wife's doing good. Uh, other kids
are doing great. And then still running medical clinics right
now with my dad. So we we just opened up
a new clinic and uh in London called top Rated Medical.
It's actually near the crumble that we're at right now,
so we do. It's a one stop shop for functional
medicine and pain, physical therapy, anything you need, honestly right
(41:10):
other than surgery, right, we can service you there. So
I've been doing that and uh, you know, really just
focusing on my kids right now and our business and
trying to grow. We've got thirteen clinics now so between here, Utah,
Idaho and Arizona and and uh, just trying to balance
that being a dad and living my living my life right.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Love it, man, love it, glory, glory, hallelujah.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
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Speaker 4 (41:41):
That was a great segment. Appreciate your parker.
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Sport Court. Now let's start off with this one five
star Ohio State commit and high schooler is filing a
lawsuit to allow for high schoolers to make nil deals.
What's going on with this?
Speaker 3 (02:25):
Just a matter of time, Ben, You know, we've reviewed
and talked about a lot the cases have led up
to this, the Ed O'Bannon case and the Austin case
that made it to the United States Supreme Court, which
really opened the door for amateur athletes to profit from
their name image lightness. Well, all states but six states
allow for high school athletes to have nil deals and
(02:48):
make money from their name image enlightness. Well. One of
the states that does not is the Great State of Ohio.
Enter Jamier Brown, who is a five star recruit at
Ohio they commit wide receiver. He and his mother have
now filed a lawsuit against the Ohio High School Athletic
(03:09):
Association sedually alleging that, hey, this is not fair. They're
they're kind of putting forth the same arguments that happened
in the O'Bannon and the Austin cases. Say one thing,
the anti trusting, but they're saying this isn't really fair,
it's outdated, it's limited, it's not fair to Ohio athletes.
(03:30):
They say a blanket ban not only singles out Ohio's
good athletes, but for unequal treatment. It's unlawfully suppresses their
economic liberties, freedom of expression, restraints competition. Jamiri's wife also
his mother point too, you know that this would really
benefit to their family, and in reality, sometimes these NIL
(03:51):
bills really do help these families. The Ohio State Athletic
Association has come out with a statement. You know, they've
been sued now, and they said, you know, this is
the type of thing that we saw coming. We had
it scheduled to do a referendum vote to see if
we wanted to keep this in place or allow the
highest athletes to profit from their name, image of likeness.
(04:12):
And they even said, hey, we might just put an
emergency referendum in place to get this addressed. They don't
like being sued, and they probably realized that this is
not going to really be in place too long. One
interesting note is that Jamiir has scheduled to visit to
Notre Dame even though he's committed to a house date.
You know, and maybe Notre Dame flips him because the
(04:34):
great State of Ohio is not going to let him
make an il money.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
It's just insane that you could limit you know, you know, name,
image and likeness deals from being executed like like federally, Like,
what what can be done here to maybe make changes?
I mean I'm never a you know, federal government guy,
but in this particular situation, you're like, man like, if
(05:01):
states are limiting earning potential of individual athletes, how do
you address this maybe from a national level.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Well, it's interesting you you and I talked that way, Ben,
because before the Austin case came down, we didn't we
couldn't even perceive of the nil deals for college athletes, right,
I mean, now it's become so commonplace that you know,
we see it as fairness for them to profit from
their name, image and likeness, and you know that it
(05:31):
doesn't extend to the high schol athletes. I think the
response is that, you know, you know, states are given
certain rights, and the state of Ohio is, along with
five other states, have decided that, you know, they have
administrative rules in place, which are essentially laws that limit
certain things. I think before time you're going to see
(05:51):
that not one of these states, you know, because it
does fly in the face of the Alton decision. Really,
so they could make that claim that it's not. You know,
in the United States Supreme Court comes down with the
decision is it is the law of the land, you know,
so they could make that argument. I don't think this
is gonna hold very long. I think Jamiir is gonna
get his nil de Yeah.
Speaker 4 (06:13):
I believe so as well. Let's move on to another subject.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Logan Paul's Prime Hydration is suing Lionel Messi over false advertising.
Speaker 4 (06:26):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
These are two big names in the hydration beverage industry, right,
which is big business obviously. So on the one hand,
we got Logan Paul with Prime, and then on the
other is Lionel Messi, and he's got a company called
Moth Hydration, and so he's got a new drink that
he's out there promoting and on their website and on
(06:49):
TV and commercials. And so what's happened is there's been
a lawsuit brought by Logan Paul in the state of Florida,
and there this is really a false advertising lawsuit and
it's brought under Florida's you know, trade practices and deceptive
and unfair practices laws. Basically, Messi in the advertising says
(07:11):
how he couldn't find the right hydration drink, and so
he went about finding you know, a drink of his own,
and he you know, discovered the right flavors and the
proper blend of electoral heights and everything else, and he's
got this drink that he wants to share with the world.
So he portrays a very close involvement with the development
(07:32):
of the drink. Well, the other part of the story
is is that back in New York, there's an ongoing
lawsuit between Prime and Moss Hydration, and in that other
lawsuit under oath, Messi gave testimony that he really didn't
have a lot of involvement in the production and development
of the drink. And so these are contradictory statements. And
(07:53):
now Logan Paul's team with Prime, they're using that against Messi,
and there it's really messing up everything. But that's I
think part of their legal strategy here is to hey,
let's maybe apply some pressure on them in a new
case in Florida and see if that can get us
what we want in our case in New York. The
case in New York involves, you know, some claims of
(08:14):
monopoly and things like that. But so it'll be interesting
to see how this thing plays out.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
Yeah, a few years ago I saw like, just like
this prime hydration popping up everywhere. I'm like, this is
not even good for anyway. That's besides the point. But
it's always intriguing to me to see how these athletes,
how these influencers, uh you know, navigate these uh in
and market these products. So uh, let's uh, let's move
(08:41):
on court fines for Atlanta Falcons in a work comp
claim by an ex player.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
Tell us what's going on with this workman's comp claim?
Speaker 3 (08:52):
Yeah, man, I think this is a really interesting case
and something we've never talked about much because I didn't
really know they existed. But you know, everyone's heard of
workers' compensation claims. And workers' compensations claims grew out of
a situation where someone is on the job, working for
their employer in the course of scope of their employment,
and they are injured. Picture a construction worker who falls
(09:14):
off a ladder and tweaks his back or breaks his leg.
He makes a worker's complaim and is entitled to workers'
comp benefits, which includes wages, medical expenses, different benefits. You know, Ben,
if you're sitting there at your desk today and you
get a paper cut on your hand, Well, you're in
the course of scope of your employment and you can
(09:34):
make a workers comp claim against Broadway Media. Well, our guy,
Wayne Gandhi is a fifteen year NFL veteran who played
last played in two thousand and nine. He played for
five different teams, one of them was the Atlanta Falcons. Well,
in twenty fifteen, he filed in the state of California,
and that's important. He filed for workers' comp benefits. And
(09:59):
he chose California because California is very favorable to workers
and they have pretty liberal workers' comp stances on this.
And so when I heard this, I thought, this is strange.
You know that an athlete, what he's claiming is years
and years of cumulative injuries, wear and tear on his
bodies that all happened while what on the job as
a football player, while what working for his employer, the
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different teams he played for, and he's claiming, Hey, I'm
entitled to workers' comp benefits as they apply to my injuries. Well,
he went to this is an administrative thing when he
went to the workers' compboard and they agreed with him. Well,
the Atlanta Falcons jumped in and said, oh, not so fast.
They appealed the decision to the Court of Appeals, and
the Court of Appills came down on the decision. They said, yeah,
(10:43):
we don't agree that the Atlanta Falcons are on the
hook for this because they applied to formula that said,
formula you didn't play a certain percentage of your games
in the state of California, which is required for California
law to apply. They apply to They looked at it
and said, oh, yeah, by the way, you you did
play in California a number of times over your career,
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but it only amounted to seven percent of your games.
And he was incidentally drafted by the Rams, so that
was one of the teams, and they said you got
to have twenty percent of your time for this to apply,
so he was out of luck on that. And I
this only really applies to the Falcons, is this claim.
(11:26):
I don't know about the other We're just reporting that
because the Falcons have won on this. I don't know
about the other four teams. But I found it really
interesting because you know, players in all sports are getting
hurt all of the time, and even when they retire,
guess what they have nagging injuries from pain and injuries
that they had from their time while playing. And I
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kind of thought they were exempt from these type of
claims simply because through the collective bargaining agreement and the
unions they saw this as a well, you know, you
athletes are getting hurt all the time, and you know,
if we open the floodgates for this. So I don't
know the answer to this. Is interesting to me that
this came up. Interesting to me that this came up.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
Yeah, that is interesting. The workmen's comp element of it all.
I mean, look, there's a lot of shout out to you, brother,
appreciate you being here. You know, like the nc double
as run into this obviously with with their you know,
some of their litigation and legislation that they've they've had
(12:26):
to deal with, but the NFL really hasn't been They've
been somewhat protected by these workmen's comp claims.
Speaker 4 (12:32):
And so why why is that?
Speaker 2 (12:34):
Why why is it that that workman's comp you know, uh,
and and I guess injuries sustained on the job that
end up impacting you two, three, four, five, six years
down the road aren't necessarily always fong under workmen's comp claims.
Speaker 3 (12:47):
Do you think, well, before I read this story day,
I would have thought that was the case, but apparently
there are you know, the way this is reported in California,
I think these other teams weren't exempt from it. So
it sounds like some of these claims have come for
cumulative injuries. But you know, California applied this percentage thing,
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and yeah, I don't know if this is now no
means that he could go to the state of Georgia
and file of workers complaim. I think I always thought
part of the reason was the NFL Players Association and
the retirement funds and all of that went into place
to have medical care and that type of thing to
address this very thing. I'd assume that that's kind of
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how they'd cut this out and kind of you know,
work themselves out of the workers claims, because you know,
a player gets hurt and gets puts on injured reserve,
there's already things in place of how he gets paid,
how he gets compensated. Certainly his medical care is going
to be covered, and I think there is the retirement
plans where you hit your certain pensions where you do
have medical coverage after your retirement. So that's what I assumed,
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but our guy Winn Gandhi didn't think that that was
enough in place filed the worker complaims.
Speaker 2 (14:02):
Complaims, Let's move on to Drake versus Kendrick Lamar for
all the hip hop enthusiasm the distrack lawsuit. Court dismisses
Drake's suit nfl avoids a discovery claim.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
What's going on here?
Speaker 5 (14:18):
Yeah, this grows out of the super Bowl halftime show,
right that Kendrick Lamar put on and and one of
those songs was not Like Us, and that's the distract.
One of them that calls out Drake and as says
some things about him, including call him a pedophile and
different things like that. And Drake of course didn't like that,
and so he brought his own lawsuit. It wasn't against
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Kendrick Lamar directly, but it really against the record label,
saying they shouldn't have even released this song because it
was defamatory. And so this is a defamation lawsuit that
he brought. And I think it's pretty interesting as far
as I know, this is one of the first times
that a judge is weighed in on whether or not
a rap battle and these diss tracks whether these are
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statements of fact or statements of opinion, and the judge
found that it was these are just opinions, right. This
is part of what these dis tracks are is it's
an escalating battle of who can diss the other person more.
And so there's a lot of things thrown out there,
and the judge is basically saying, hey, these aren't statements
of fact, and so they dismissed the case. But like
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you said in the lead in, then I mean the
NFL is probably breathing a sigh relief because had the
case gone on and survived this motion to dismiss, it's
possible the NFL would have had to answer some questions
about how they allowed Kendrick Lamar to play the song
at halftime, and you know whether or not they should
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have stepped in and done anything. But now it's a
moot point and the rap battle. It's just opinions, opinions.
Speaker 2 (15:53):
Just opinions. The drama continues there. Let's talk about low
cool rivalry drama.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
This was crazy.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
I saw this come across my feet yesterday and still
getting traction obviously today. The rivalry week always brings volatility
and in controversy. Apparently there was a man arrested for
allegedly threatening to shoot Utah fans at a b YU
football game.
Speaker 4 (16:22):
Give us the latest.
Speaker 3 (16:24):
Yeah, this is a whole new level of you know what,
you know, the the rivalry, great, game is great and
for the most part, everyone you know. But occasionally there's
the bad apple and this one takes it to another level.
Thank you for social media. But a gentleman who presumably
is a BYU fan, but BYU is not going to
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claim him in any way, shape or form. He's just
a guy who's unhinged. He came out with a couple
of statements on social media. Quote anyone wearing red on
Saturday is getting shot. He takes it to another level.
Come to Lovelle Edwards Stadium and enjoy a bullet in
your head. Bring your kids too. Well, this was reported
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and law enforcement jump in and he has been arrested
and held on suspicion of threats of violence and obstruction
of justice. He has not been formally charged yet. That's
when we'll see what happens and maybe his name will
be reported, which, thank you social media, you're going to
actually get some fame for it, or infamy. So yeah,
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bad luck you know, and nobody likes to see this,
and so the Rivalry Week so local interest and that's
why we're talking about it, talking about.
Speaker 4 (17:40):
It crazy times.
Speaker 2 (17:42):
There's been many controversial things that have happened over the
years in this rivalry game amongst fans I mean, I
mean amongst players, cheerleaders. I mean, what you know from
your perspective, Like, I mean, do we do we know?
How how many lawsuits have stemmed from the rivalry or
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Rivalry Week.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
I want to I wonder.
Speaker 2 (18:05):
If anything happened with Kyle Whittingham, you know, I think
his family was you know, purportedly assaulted at Lavelle Edwards Stadium.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
There was the the b YU fan.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
That tried to assault the University of Utah cheerleader last
year up at Rice Echols. There was the son of
a big or big Utah donor that threw a bottle
and hit the head and knocked out concussed a women's
cheerleader for BYU.
Speaker 4 (18:36):
I mean, we should start, we should aggregate how.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
Many how many Rivalry Week lawsuits have have come forth
over the years.
Speaker 3 (18:46):
Yeah, I don't know that there's been I haven't heard
of any lawsuits per se, you know, there's the there's
the beer on my family's head, Max fall incident. You know,
I think everyone just gets reported. I don't know of
any lawsuits would have happened because of these incidents. You know,
maybe maybe there was one last year, the bottle that
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was there was failed security, but I haven't heard that.
Maybe Garrett could jump in on that.
Speaker 4 (19:14):
Just we got you, guys, did I lose you?
Speaker 2 (19:37):
I'm not hearing them all right?
Speaker 4 (19:42):
Well, let's call that a segment.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
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Speaker 2 (22:17):
All right, let's welcome in one of my favorite walk
ons all time in BYU football history. He played in
this rivalry game and unfortunately he did not get a
win in this rivalry game. But he's gonna tell us about,
you know what he remembers about this rivalry game and
teach us a little bit about offensive line plate. How
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it's gonna be one and or lost in the trenches
former BYU.
Speaker 4 (22:41):
Great offensive line.
Speaker 2 (22:42):
We got Parker dah here live was a Parker what
uh Man?
Speaker 6 (22:47):
Doing good, doing really good. Excited to be here and
excited to talk about the game.
Speaker 2 (22:51):
You were able to embrace your running back here Jamal.
Not too long ago he had to take off. But
how cool is he to reunite with Jamal oh Man?
Speaker 6 (23:00):
So many good memories with that guy. It was great
to see him. It's been a long time since I've
seen him, you know. It's it's crazy how the years
go by and almost a decade later, right, you know,
But no, it was great to see him.
Speaker 7 (23:13):
And man, I love playing with him.
Speaker 6 (23:15):
Some of the memories I had with Jamal is just
being in the huddle with him, you know, in those
big moments and the emotion that he had, right, Like
he played with so much emotion, so much passion, right
and just just a great lead right for our team
and ran super hard, and you know, it was it
was great to see him.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Well, yeah, I felt like the offensive line they moved
the lion of scrimmage. Well in that twenty sixteen game,
close one right came down to the wire two point conversion,
but do you would you agree with that assessment, like
when b YU wins this rivalry game, it's typically one
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in the trenches.
Speaker 7 (23:58):
Yeah, I think so.
Speaker 6 (24:00):
For whatever reason, right, every year we play, you know,
Utah this rivalry game, I feel like it's always a
close game and always comes down to the wire. Obviously
we don't like that, right as bou fans, but you know,
the game is one of the trenches, right. And when
we played that twenty sixteen year, in that game that
we lost in that two point conversion, man, they had
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Hunter Dimmick, they had a Mocha Fisi, they had Cody Barton,
a few guys that were just stars, right, And remember
playing against those guys and preparing for that game and
just you know, knowing how tough their defense was and
how physical.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
That they were. But we could have beat them, right.
Speaker 6 (24:43):
I mean we threw a pick six on the first
play of the game, and you know that was that
was my that was my first moment in that game.
And I remember thinking before the game started, like, man,
I'm about to play playing the biggest game of my career, right,
and then we started off with the pick six and
you take that one play back, we win that game. Right,
I could say that about any play, but you know, big,
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big moments.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah, I mean this, Uh, this game means a lot
of community, it means a lot of families, it.
Speaker 4 (25:10):
Means a lot to these individual schools.
Speaker 2 (25:14):
Uh, it's a It's more than just a game, right,
this is a This is one of the biggest games,
I think on the West Coast. I think it's an
underrated rivalry game. I think the nation is becoming aware
just how special and singular this rivalry game is from
your perspective, right, Like, where does it rank out amongst
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the best rivalry games in college football?
Speaker 7 (25:38):
Oh, it's got to be one of the top games, right.
Speaker 6 (25:40):
I think I saw a statistic on social media the
other day that I think this is the most expensive game,
right or expensive seat that, yeah, anywhere in the country
right now?
Speaker 7 (25:52):
Yeah, this week, right now, this week?
Speaker 4 (25:53):
Yees.
Speaker 6 (25:54):
So, I mean that alone just tells you the amount
of passion people have for this game. And obviously you
have the SEC and you've got some big rivalries there.
But you know, you see it in the interviews with
Kyle Whittingham and Kilawney, right, Like, obviously there's a lot
of tension right between the schools and a lot of
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passion in the community. Lots lots of stuff going on,
but it's one of the biggest rivalries in the country.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
What are some of the things that you're looking forward
to on Saturday six pm kick goff under the lights
of Lavelle.
Speaker 4 (26:31):
This offensive line, this defensive line. They've been tremendous thus
far this season.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
I know you've been able to watch what stands out
to you about the offensive defensive line play thus far
this year?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
Yeah, you know, watching the O line the past few years.
What I'm noticing this year is I feel like the
O line has had a few years with the coaching
staff and they're really playing in sync, playing in Unison.
They've got a young quarterback, right barr Bachmeyer, and he's
he's very talented, done a great job this season.
Speaker 7 (27:03):
But they're playing really, really well together.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
You know.
Speaker 6 (27:07):
Obviously Utah has got a great defensive front. They always
put together a great defensive front, you know. But one
of the things I want to see coming into this
game is I want to see us start fast.
Speaker 7 (27:17):
Right, you know.
Speaker 6 (27:19):
I feel like the games where we've struggled in years
past is where we take too long, right, we come
out of the gate second half, right, or you know,
vice versa. We come out playing strong and then we
end up you know, they get us from you know,
when we're we're we're ahead. But man, if we could
come out just playing fast, being comfortable, being confident in
our ability, I think I think we take to win.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
The last two times by wins this game. They don't
turn the ball over. That's another key component here. Win
the trench warfare game. Don't cough up the football, be
at least neutral or in the plus.
Speaker 4 (27:52):
In the turnover marchin game. Ye, that helps, and so
uh when when.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
B yu Even at the time though, even I want
to say that twenty sixteen game, I think we were
plus in the turnover margin even though we did give
up a pig six, but we still fell short that game.
It's hard to to come back from a defensive score,
even a special team score, and win the game, even
if you are plus in the turnover margin.
Speaker 7 (28:19):
Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, I know.
Speaker 6 (28:22):
Like thinking back in that game and thinking about that
twenty sixteen game, defense played lights out right, Yeah, that
was a big, big game for them. And then I
think offensively, right, we would get momentum in a drive
and then you know, we would you know, turn the
you know, have a three and out and punt it
and flip things around. But I mean, ultimately, right, if
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we can, if we can come into the game where
defense is just playing how they're playing, Hopefully everyone's healthy.
Hopefully we got Jack Kelly, you know, we got Isaiah
Glasker coming in and playing ball, and you know, I
think that defensively we can shut him down.
Speaker 4 (29:00):
Can't wait to see it.
Speaker 2 (29:01):
If you had the ears of the BYU Cougar football
team prior to this game, right, just down a practice
or even the locker room. What's the message, What's what's
the message to this BYU Cougar football team before they
take the field versus the utes of the North Man.
Speaker 6 (29:20):
I think Kilani said it best. They don't know, but
they're about to. You know, they don't know, but they're
about to know. Right, So I mean, at the end
of the day, right, be confident in your ability play
at one play at a time, trust the scheme, right,
but you got to play it till that very.
Speaker 7 (29:37):
Last play, very last whistle.
Speaker 6 (29:39):
And if we do that right, they're gonna have a
they're gonna have a memory that they're going to think
about the rest of their life, you know, winning the game.
Speaker 2 (29:47):
Yes, indeed, ninety seventh meeting, long standing rivalry, BYU has
won the last two. But in the modern era, Utah
has dominated this rivalry. Post twenty ten, they went nine straight,
nine straight wins and that's the longest winning streak in
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this in this rivalry history. Now, BYU had a nine
straight wins from like in the late seventies, early eighties,
right in their glory era, and from twenty ten to
twenty and twenty three, that was the Utah glory era,
you know it, even going back two thousand and eight,
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probably two thousand and four, two thousand and four to
twenty twenty three, those twenty years, Utah has been a
really good to great, some would say elite football program.
And now right finally BYU has resources, TV money, nil backing,
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free market, capitalistic, nil transfer, portal market.
Speaker 4 (30:54):
They've been able to take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (30:57):
Seems as if BYU is in a place where they've
already caught up to Utah despite the thirteen year head start.
Speaker 4 (31:07):
How impressive is that?
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And do you feel like BYU's caught up now after
being behind for thirteen years?
Speaker 6 (31:15):
Yeah, I do you know it's funny when my younger
brother Wyatt walked on to BYU a few years ago.
I actually got a chance to talk to Colonnie a
lot about that at one of the practices and I
and I asked him, I'm like, how is how is
this all working now with nil and recruiting and getting
guys because at that time, I think we'd saw a
handful of players leave from bou and go to Utah
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and Keenan Peeley, right, is that who?
Speaker 2 (31:42):
Well, Keenan went to Tennessee, JA gave Judy Lowly went
to Tennessee. We have John Henry Daily and Logan Fano
went to Utah. That's they're gonna be your starting defensive
ends for Utah.
Speaker 7 (31:53):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (31:53):
Yeah, So I just remember talking about that, and I
remember Klannie said that they were doing everything in their power,
uh to to do what they needed to do to
make Bou an elite program nationally. They're they're not trying
to be top twenty five. They're not trying to, you know,
make it to the the Bowl game, right like they
want to win. They want to win a national championship, right.
So that tells you a lot about commonality. You know
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Tom Home at the time. Right now it's you know Santiago.
You know, they want to win, and so I think
that they're there where they want to be out with Utah. Right,
they brought in Kyle Winningham, Right, they brought in previous
Utah or b a u Alum Right, yep, Jason Beck,
Mike Simon boy Deptmer Right. I played with a lot
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of those guys, right, played under Jason Beck. You know,
So I think that that that Utah you know that
they're an elite program. They've done really well. But I
think BOU is right there with them.
Speaker 4 (32:53):
Yeah, it was with resources. Yeah, it's interesting the cross
pollination between the two schools.
Speaker 2 (33:00):
There's been like trades, if you will, Harvey Longey coming
from Utah to b YU, didn't you play hard? Yeah,
Austin Lee Utah to b YU. You know, Carson Ryan
from Utah to b YU, right, kelto town of Austin,
from Utah to b YU. Then you see like Devin
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KUFUSI go from Bya, you know what I mean. You
see Logan and John Henry daily and there's been cross
pollination now in the coaching staff too. Yep, like no
other rivalry no other no other universities have what we're experiencing.
Speaker 4 (33:41):
Here in Utah.
Speaker 2 (33:41):
And I think that's why Big noon kickoffs here to
familiarize themselves with this rivalry. I think Dave Portnoy stool presidente.
You know, he's starting to feel and realize what this
rivalry is all about.
Speaker 4 (33:54):
And it's gonna be put on the map. This is
a big game. This may be the biggest robbery game.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
In the country, well in our history though. Yeah, like
depending like this is a power conference now. Both of
both teams are looking to get to Arlington. This may
be a determining factor on whether or not you get
to Arlington to win a big pol championship and get
to the CFP.
Speaker 4 (34:17):
Yeah you know what I mean.
Speaker 7 (34:18):
Yep, No, I get that.
Speaker 6 (34:19):
You know, it's it's uh, you know, I have a
lot of respect for for Jason Beck and you know
Coy and Micah you know, like looking into you know,
their their scheme. It's been interesting to watch them play
this year, right because a lot of the concepts that
they're doing at the US the same stuff that I
had played in under an eye right when he when
he was the offensive coordinator. But you know, it's you know,
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as far as going back into the conference play.
Speaker 7 (34:48):
You know, like this is this has got.
Speaker 6 (34:51):
To be a nationally recognized game where people need to
know and feel right that there's tension, there's feelings, right,
there's emotions that going on. I mean you look at
Jason Beck and you look at these guys. They they
coached at by U, right, they played for by U.
Kyle Whitningham played for BOU.
Speaker 7 (35:08):
Right.
Speaker 6 (35:09):
I mean Kilanne coach at Utah, Right. A lot of
the guys at at BOU coach at Utah.
Speaker 7 (35:16):
Right.
Speaker 6 (35:17):
So these are guys that have been in the same
place for a long time. Right, They know each other,
They played with each other. You know that at one point, right,
they were brothers. Right, and then this week all that
tension and love and passion is all gonna come out
six pm.
Speaker 2 (35:34):
Crazy time. How do you think this game plays out?
What's your score prediction? Parker dob Are you gonna go
there for me? You ready to go on record?
Speaker 7 (35:44):
Right on record? Oh yeah, we can't put money on this, right.
Speaker 4 (35:48):
Well, well we could.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
We can have a friendly Betridly.
Speaker 4 (35:52):
You know we can. You and I can do a
friendly bet or something like that.
Speaker 6 (35:55):
I'm gonna go b YU. Let's say thirty one Utah fourteen,
thirty one to fourteen.
Speaker 4 (36:05):
Oh, that's a dominating.
Speaker 7 (36:07):
Dominating like if BYU.
Speaker 2 (36:09):
Wins and they win in a convincing way and they
put Kyle Whittingham into retirement with three games straight of
L's man, I don't I don't know if there was
any other way to balance out that. That would be
the way to balance out this rival, even though you've
been dominated right to a certain degree from twenty ten
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to present day. Like forcing Kyle Whittingham in retirement like
that would be like the icing the cherry on type
of BYU fans. Like the fact that the PAC twelve died,
And you can point to the fact that Utah was
a contributing factor to the PAC twelve dying because of
the way that they they had their internal media consultant
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at the University of Utah.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
I don't know if you know this.
Speaker 2 (36:56):
No over evaluate the value of each individual pactal school
in their negotiation with ESPN.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
And Fox, and so they came into it thinking.
Speaker 2 (37:06):
No, we're worth more like fifty million per school and
ESPN's like, No, Fox didn't even want anything to do it.
They were the former media rights distributor. They didn't even
come to the table. They're like, yeah, let whoever else
wants to get in. So ESPN's like, okay, well this
is your fair market value. No, Utah's internal consultants said no, no, no, no,
it's fifty million, right, fifty million. So like that led
(37:29):
to the destruction of the PAC twelve, the hubris, the
pompous nature, right, and then it forced them.
Speaker 4 (37:36):
They went kicking in stream. They were the.
Speaker 2 (37:38):
Last ones there, like, fine, we'll go to the Big twelve. Fine,
but we believe we're Big ten material because we're an
our one research institution and we owned the PAC twelve, right,
we own Like I'm giving you all this because it's
like if BYU forces Kyle Whittingham into retirement with three
state losses, I'm.
Speaker 7 (37:57):
Like, you think you did you think retire?
Speaker 2 (38:01):
Oh yeah, no, I think it'd be forced to retire.
I think it'd be forced to retire. It'd be interesting,
it'd be interesting, Like.
Speaker 4 (38:09):
I think it could come to that.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
It could come to that, especially if bou wins by
like seventeen points, like you know what I mean, Like
like a thirty one to fourteen win.
Speaker 4 (38:21):
That's a dominating win in this rallery game.
Speaker 2 (38:23):
Yeah, like anything above like anything at like above eight points.
Speaker 4 (38:28):
It's like that's a good win. Oh yeah, because it's
not just like necessarily.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Like a field game winning field goal or ot game
or a two point conversion game.
Speaker 4 (38:37):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 7 (38:38):
Do we have a stat on that?
Speaker 2 (38:40):
So out of the last thirty one games, so it'll
go last thirty years, thirty games, nineteen and twelve, so
Utah has won nineteen games, bas won twelve nineteen of
those are one score games.
Speaker 4 (38:53):
Wow, I insane.
Speaker 6 (38:55):
I'm gonna keep my prediction thirty one fourteen, keeping it,
holding it.
Speaker 4 (39:00):
Wow, that'd be crazy.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
That would bounce out the universe, the BYU fan universe.
They'd just be like yes, like I don't know which one.
They'd be happy about the fact that the PAC twelve
died Ding Dong, that Dick Wicked, which is dead, you know,
the PAC twelve pack eight pack, then stiff arming b
Yu due to you know whatever biggot you know, biggo
tree that they employed internally, right, religious.
Speaker 4 (39:23):
Bigotry and more. But whatever their justifications are, it is
what it is.
Speaker 2 (39:28):
Or the fact like bau forcing co whitting him in
her time I don't know which one they'd rejoice more in,
but they'd be rejoicing this.
Speaker 4 (39:36):
This is a big game. This is a huge game. Parker.
Doll ladies and gentlemen. Parker, give us a brief update.
What you're doing for work? Yeah?
Speaker 6 (39:42):
Family, Yeah, everything's going great. Family is great. Got four
kids now, just started.
Speaker 7 (39:46):
Coaching youth football.
Speaker 4 (39:47):
That's what we'll talk about.
Speaker 6 (39:48):
I've got I'm coaching the A team and the B team.
So that's been a party, trying to coach two things.
Got both of our teams going to the semi finals.
Shout out to Mountain View Bruins. Let's go shout out
to the Bruins.
Speaker 7 (40:02):
It's been a new thing.
Speaker 6 (40:03):
I've been went from PG wearing blue to mount View
wearing red down there with Wannie Unga, which from Mountain
View High School and Alani Fua and Louis La right
coaching those guys.
Speaker 7 (40:16):
But it's been a blast. I'll tell you what.
Speaker 6 (40:19):
Never in my life did I think I was going
to be an offensive coordinator with a bunch of ten
year olds. But I'm slinging it right now, right well,
every play, you.
Speaker 4 (40:26):
Guys are just just ripping it right.
Speaker 7 (40:30):
Throw the slants.
Speaker 4 (40:31):
No, no power on game, none of that.
Speaker 6 (40:34):
Spurn it out, air raid, air raid all day. No,
I can't believe it. We run the ball, We run
the ball. Get that GT power you know, coming in
that little counteraction.
Speaker 7 (40:44):
But yeah, yeah, so.
Speaker 6 (40:45):
Things have been good. Wife's doing good. Uh, other kids
are doing great. And then still running medical clinics right
now with my dad. So we we just opened up
a new clinic and uh in London called top Rated Medical.
It's actually near the crumble that we're at right now,
so we do. It's a one stop shop for functional
medicine and pain, physical therapy, anything you need, honestly right
(41:10):
other than surgery, right, we can service you there. So
I've been doing that and uh, you know, really just
focusing on my kids right now and our business and
trying to grow. We've got thirteen clinics now so between here, Utah,
Idaho and Arizona and and uh, just trying to balance
that being a dad and living my living my life right.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Love it, man, love it, glory, glory, hallelujah.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
And the Porker Dot family multiplying, replenishing, creating future Cougars
and coaching up future cougars there at Mountain View guys.
Speaker 4 (41:41):
That was a great segment. Appreciate your parker.
Speaker 2 (41:44):
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Get into a BMW. What are you driving these days?
Speaker 6 (42:48):
I drive a ram I got a camper top on
it your truck.
Speaker 4 (42:54):
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