October 28, 2025 • 52 mins
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(07:28):
topics of interest. I would say, what about the health
of LJ. Martin, what's going on with Jack sach Kelly,
what do you got for me?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Martin?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Sorry, I heard you utter a few words in my ear. Okay,
we're gonna get it ready, We're gonna get it rolling.
Just momentarily, we're gonna get in some sound from Kilani
from the media availability yesterday. All right, let's get into it.
The opening statement from Kolani yesterday.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
Our team in a program in all three phases, So
we still have a lot of work to do. I
still feel like we can play better as a football team.
But after watching the film, I always state it's a
really good team, and I'm glad our guys were able
to respond to some adversity. Seems like that's what we've
been able to do quite a bit. So I feel
comfortable with.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Them doing that.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
I just my job is so we're not doing that
all the time, you know, but but if we need it,
we know we can play and come back from behind
and figure some things out. Really impressed with the effort
our guys gave and man, just just a really good
game for for what we saw on film. We'll build
off of it and make sure that we're ready for
the next one. And looking forward to this BIDO, we
(08:37):
can getting an early start on Texas Tech and and
then you know, making a strong push for these last
four games that we knew going into the season that
we would be in this position, and how to utilize
this week and I think everything's going really what's what
we plan and how it would look from our from
our our analytics that we're getting from the data that
we're getting from our players. And so let's put it
(09:00):
all together and see what happens this week and get
ourselves ready for some trigger treating on Friday.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
We have to put in a little trigger treating as well,
a little trunk or treat. I know in years past
they've actually done, uh these really cool trunk or treat
with the BYU Athletic Department events. Is that on the
docket this weekend? Do we know of any any U
any event where the Cougar athletes are going to be
(09:30):
handing out, doling out the sweet dulsays, the candies, the
higherctosed corn syrup laden delicious treats. I'll be honest, Like,
you know, those gummy nerds, Like I am not I
hate sugar sugar const catcher, but like those gummy nerds,
those little gummy nerd balls those things are freaking the best, phenomenal.
(09:51):
They are celestial, they are fantastic. That's the best candy.
That is best, the best candy on.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Earth, second best candy on man, behind only Reese's Peanut
butter cups.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Uh no, no, no, no chocolate. I mean look, chocolate
just doesn't do it for me. I don't really, no, man.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Are chocolate Reese's peanut butter cup?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Na?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh man? Yeah, you gotta you gotta get me some
ice cream?
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Good for your heart?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh yeah, dark chocolate is not not Reese's Peanut butter cups.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Chocolate Reese's peanut butter cups. Yeah, you said dark chocolate?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Dark?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Dark chocolate dark? Is it really good for you?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Though?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
It's good for your with some peanut butter in the
gummies on candies in general.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
We're gonna get back to the sound. Martin, Kelly, don't
you worry, my friend? What's your favorite candy? By the way, Martin,
what's your favorite candy? What do you got for Meese's
peanut butter cups? You're lying?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You're a liar?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Why lying?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You sit on a throat? You're just saying that.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Me a liar?
Speaker 7 (10:55):
I've been called fat, I've been called short, and I've
been calling a liar on this program.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I ever called you shore called you tall?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
That's probably me.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Yeah, but I called you a liar because I thought
you were piggybacking off of Sean.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
No peanut butter comes all the time? Why not?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Really?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
When I had no idea, I had so many cup
guys here.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Yeah, you can't really can't go wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I mean, I kind of are you ronnic? Are you?
Are you re peanut butter cup guy too?
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I'm a butterfinger guy. I won't lie.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Okay, so butterf Okay, I'm down with that hammer time.
I know you're off the air. But what do you
what's your what you get?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Man? Okay, maybe I'm Okaye's.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I had made no idea. I'm surrounded by Reci's peanut butter.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I feel like I'm a Twicks guy.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm a Snickers guy before Ree's peanut butter.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I'm a kick cat.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I would rather have a kit cat too. I'll be honest,
I'll take all three of those. I mean I take
I'd probably take a butter figure are.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
A lot of us, there are dozens of Ussay, man,
I'm judging.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm judging all you guys. I don't know what's up
with your palettes.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I don't like it though, But if you give the
ice cream peanut butter cups because it like hardens up
a little bit, I'll take that all day. All right,
let's get back to the sound klade shittake making us
talk about candy and a football show. How rare is
it to have a true freshman that seems to have
never been rattled by anything?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, I think you're right.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
The composure that he has a poise, it's something special.
But but you don't really how are you going to
simulate practices to see that. We tried as much as
we can, and we've we thought that this would be
the case that he would respond really well to it.
But to be honest, I love the way that he was.
That he's worked through the system, and this is with
(12:53):
him just starting in the summer, you know, and and.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You start to see him be a.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
Lot more comfortable with what we're doing. Man, he's a
learning machine, so he's always trying to find ways to
get better. And I think he's so focused on trying
to find ways to get better that you're not really
worried about the environment, the situation, the circumstances that he's in.
He just wants to keep getting better. And that's where
things are going well or bad for the team. I
(13:22):
think I give a lot of credit to the way
a Rod's brought him along, and you know, a Rod
and Matt Mitchell have done a great job prepping him.
And then you have to give a lot of credit
to the other quarterbacks in the room. They work really
well together. Been really impressed with how those guys have
been able to help him. The players that have experience
and those that have knowledge that they're just in there
(13:43):
working together and sharing and and so we're really really
in a really good spot with with what we're seeing
from his teammates. And then he has a great supporting cast,
you know, from the lineman to the tight ends, to
the receivers and the running backs and so and then
that that even compliments with the support that he's getting
from the defense and the special teams, and then also
support that he's getting from all the fans and so
(14:06):
uh he he that's been amazing everything here. But the
way that the kid was raised. Uh, it doesn't surprise
me at all. And the way that he's connected to
his family. I mean you have to just look at
his big brother, not just Tiger, but also Hank and
how they've they've mentored him along the way.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So it's this.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
Guy's been learning from the very beginning at a young
age and he has never stopped learning. And that that's
what a great example he can be to the rest
of our team. But super humble and love coaching him.
So we'll just keep rolling with it and see how
it keeps going, keeps progressing.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Auto the three man weaver what he got from Mili
with your commentary on that on the back end of
that sound by.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Look, now I want to compare this.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I need to be very careful because this guy is
not going to be the number eight overall pick in
a draft. But he reminds me of the old soul
like Diegor Demon. He really does, like Bear, Bear being
old and mature beyondest years, Like it reminds me of
remember we played in the summer? What yegor anything past
to all the music? He like, like, come on, what
(15:06):
are you talking about? Like Bear reminds me of like dude,
like a mature return missionary. And he's not like that's
what he does. He's just he's eighteen, but he doesn't
come off as the eighteen. I just had to give
that comparison old soul, old soul at b Is that why.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
He volunteers with his older brother Tiger. Yeah, he plays
Come on, man, I got come on like look at that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'll be honest, like like some of my favorite service
projects on my mission were at the at the Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yeah, helping out of the folks. That's You're not wrong.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
A lot of wisdom, wisdom I've gotta I've got a
I'll just say sources. I got a little mole u
down there in that residential facility down in Provo where
they volunteer. Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And I can't.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Confirm the residents love the Backer boys.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
It's not just a show like the family.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I think like the uncles there.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
They look forward to it every week. It's every other
week or so. Yeah, I think they comes either like
it's they're.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Good, love it, love it. Uh.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
And what he's and what he's doing to pivot back
to football, what bear Backmeyer is doing is is uniquely
singular right now, not only with this BA football program.
But but just like nationally, you don't see true freshman.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Doing what he's doing. Uh, in college football.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
He leads the country in most games with a rushing
at a passing touchdown at least one in one for
each of the first eight games of the season.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
That's number one in the FBS.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
He's the first true freshman starting quarterback to start eight
to zero since one Trevor Lawrence from Cumson in twenty eighteen.
It's only happened like I think three or four times
in the modern era.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Of college football.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
But like, like what he's doing, you just you don't
see it very often. You gotta I think you gotta
give Bear a ton of credit and a ton of flowers,
as well as his family for raising him, right Coach
A Rod and Matt Mitchell for what they've been able
to do and bring him along. I mean, he's got
obviously a very good supporting cast around him. But you know,
you win with your quarterback, you lose with your quarterback.
(17:10):
Right now, b Why he's winning with their quarterback and
they're winning with the true freshman who's not playing like
a freshman in any sense of the word.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah. Uh, you know, I think to Ronnie's point.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I wouldn't say he's a pontificator of Palaberus by any means,
but like not a way that he approaches the media.
He's very much like he's very much an old soul.
Seems like he's like that that that twenty like nine
year old savvy vet that knows a thing or two
about what the media's trying to get out. I know,
I know you're trying to get your answer.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I ain't give it to you.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know what I mean, He's not gonna give it
to us. He's not gonna give you the answer. He's
gonna make you work. He's gonna make you work. You
got to you got to earn the answer you're looking
for here. Uh, you mentioned Klata, you're going with a
more individualized approach to the bye week.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
What is the game plan there?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Oh, it's everything, it's it's if everything, considering the individual
there's a lot of guys that that need to develop
and take the take advantage of this week to get better.
And so if you want quality depth, you have to
develop it too. And so you know, a lot of
these guys are one play away from being in the game.
So we have to this is a big, big work
(18:25):
week for them. Some guys we know that they've been
able to do it, they still need to stay in shape.
But you know, it's it's all specified to what what
our strength room wants them to do and what our
coaches are willing to work with them. But everything, everyone,
everyone is working together on how to get these guys
ready individually and then U you know, collectively that makes
the team better.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Look So he's leaning very heavily on his sports scientists, right.
So obviously doctor Skyler remains a big part of that.
Colby Clawson is a huge part of that. Ryan Phillis
is a strict addition coach. He's part of that, uh,
doctor Britt Moore. So it's a big part of that.
And so you're going to construct a design around the
individual and that includes physical therapy, load management, modality management.
(19:13):
So now down at BYU, just so everybody knows, they
have a hyperbaric chamber, they have multiple red light saunas
like these like beds that you can lay in and
you get like all spectrums of light into your muscular
skeletal system penetrative near them. For red light, you get
(19:33):
more of the traditional superficial red light. You have blue light,
you got green light, you got purple light, you got
all manner, you got you got fushia light. I don't know, man,
there's a lot of different lights that can penetrate into
the skin and into the muscular skeletal system.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
They got it all down there. They have tech are they.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Have pulsed wave technology, shockwave technology, radio shockwave, they have
lasers right for fox goal uh, muscular skeletal conditions and
things of that nature.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And and so they're.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
They're bought in to the holistic recovery that you need.
And then on the nutritional side too. Offical supplementation is
a key, core, core, core element to that, but also
just getting the right nutrients in your body that react
well with your your gassing, intestinal health, all of that,
(20:28):
your microbiome.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
They're getting into the science of it, and that's what's elevating.
You look at BYU's injury report, okay, and you compare
it to who they've played against up to this point.
You look at the side by side, okay, and it's
pretty insane how much healthier by us versus their their opponents.
(20:51):
And now I'm not saying the BA hasn't had some injuries,
but there haven't been as many like like season ending
injuries this year and as comparatively speaking to their foes,
that needs to be highlighted, that needs to be celebrated,
and a bye week couldn't come at a better time
Prior to the Texas Tech game. Who is at their place?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
This is the toughest game on the schedule.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I believe in and Baron Morton will most likely I
thin he gets in here in the Kansastate game is
most likely to be your start. I'm just saying knock
on with.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Baron because he's been injured so much, like yeah, Like,
I don't mean, I'm not trying to come off rude.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
He gets hurt a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, Like how many times has he been injured?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Have you have you DAYD I was going back and looking.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think he's been injured seven times in the last
like two seasons, Like I don't know last last two
to three going back to twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
He's come back from.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Injury twice already this Year's had to replace him twice.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
And Will haven't replaced him.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Will Hammond replaced him three times last year in twenty
twenty four season, Like it's a lot, so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He could get injured and they can't stay here.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Now we want everyone at knockout way, like we want
to play against Baron Morton, because you don't want Utah
fans coming into your mentions and say, you guys haven't
played anybody to be fair like a drunken stupor on
Twitter like you guys, you guys, she didn't to be
(22:15):
fair to Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Utah has also not been beaten by Barry Morton this year.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's true, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
But like, you know what's gonna happen right the you
know you Tha fans are just gonna be like, look,
you didn't get to you didn't face Baron Morton. So
and like they're not even gonna be able to project
and and realize what they're putting themselves in tune with
that logic, right, they're gonna forget that they they they
didn't even play Baron Morton. Yeah, you didn't play will happen?
Will happens better.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Than Baron Morton anyway.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We don't want to have to go down that path,
you know, with our with our rivals up north.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
To the to this but that back back to the
back to the subject of injury prevention and management and
and a lot of a lot of What's impressed me
the most about Kobe Clausen, doctor Mayne Ryan phillis with
strength and strength conditioning and all of all the physicisms
there is not just by us overall availability or lack
(23:14):
of injury injury prevention, because injuries happen.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
It's football, right, like they tend to happen.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
But the way they've been able to manage the injuries
that have popped up to where you know, former season
ending injuries no longer are necessary necessarily, where former you know,
two three month injuries are now two or three week
injuries Like That's that's the kind of thing that I
think is maybe impressed me the most about this staff
(23:40):
and what they're doing, both on the sports medicine side,
sports science and strength and conditioning, all of that.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
What should I mean you say it all the time,
and what's your greatest ability in the game of football?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Always the available, It's.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Always availability and bi us availability. I mean, it hasn't
always been perfect, but the way they've been able to
bounce back through some of those physical adversities I think
has been really impressive this year.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, and I mean, there's certain injuries that I I think, like,
for instance, with Isaiah Glasger, you know, Tommy, I think
they probably should have shut him down because they were
they've been a shadow of themselves and they kind of
continue to kind of re injure themselves.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It probably would have been better to.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Rehab them for like two weeks straight, get them in
a boot, whatever that, you know, whatever it is that.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
They're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But then again, you know, guys want to play, and
they want to try to fight through things. And the
old school mentality is to try to fight through those things.
And and unless you're gonna be given like the tortal
shots to the arm and the light of Kane focally
to certain injuries, you're not gonna be able to push
through the pain as much. Medraw packs and predno Zone
(24:47):
and IVU Profen and Tortoll pills, they just don't have
the same effect as the intravenous, sub subcutaneous type of
injections that that I got to take.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Pardon it was great. It allowed me to play.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'm so glad I played in two thousand and five
to two thousand and seven because I got those into
my ankle and.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Into my arms just tremendous.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I was able to play level Oh so good man, Yeah,
a little oral, uh you know, pain mets too, just
to you know, take the edge off. Dude, you guys
realize that Aaron Rodgers and he admitted that, like like
just eating vico ins before games, Like you wonder why
we're all like addicted to drugs as football players after
(25:34):
our careers be a collegiates a much larger conversation about
football one hundred. But like we're like, we gotta play
this week. I gotta ball out, Like are are you
gotta realize like the intrinsic like identity that we have
as athletes like to play. We gotta play like this
is who I am. My self esteem and identity is
(25:56):
is completely enveloped in this persona. I gotta play. And
then you get done with football, You're like, why am
I depressed? Why why am I having these horrible thoughts
my identity? I'm no longer a human anyways. That's why
BA has got to be different. Let me, that's why
(26:17):
BoA's gotta be different. But also we gotta be better
about helping them transition into the next step of competitive life,
which is typically corporate America and utilizable for me, the
education received a brig at Brigham in a uh in
a great way and crown.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
He's done a good job of doing both.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, you gotta look, we still needed We got to
do even a better job.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So that's gonna take a community that's gonna take the
entire cougarnation out there to mentor aid and support these
b YU football players. Anyways, I pontificated a little bit
too far on that. It's okay, we.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Can full circle. B way was healthy.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
They are strong, they are nourished, they are strengthened, and
we're seeing it on the injury report. Okay, And that
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little Hurricane that was bare black. While you heard of
the post game, he says, I like to listen to
the songs that playing over them the PA and they
were playing luke holes there at Iowaish stays what songs
did they take? Play it and labela Edward Stadium pregame?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
What's on our plate?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It shuts your mouth. I'm a big fan of the
plopform popping on it. I have a four year old
or two year old, so we we definitely love popcorn
popping on the saying that I'm a I'm a primary
teacher as well, so we like to get into the
primary songs. I cried, I cried. I've cried multiple times
in primary singing time.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I mean, I'll tell you what. Brett's shaking his head
in a in an affirmation and affirmative way like I
cry in primary during primary singing time, like probably three
times for.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
You guys, and I felt the spirit primary singing time.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It gets it. It's the hit bro like in the
shout out to SHAWNA. Jorganson. She picked a great song
for us to be singing. It's a specialty song. I
was like, we were like doing the humming, and I'm like,
I'm like wiping tears, like I can't even see man.
I just anyway, the spirit was strong.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Anyway.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Uh, I don't know what you're talking about. This is
an organization that I don't recall.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I attend to. I attend a higher version of the
Gospel of Jesus Christ where primaries don't exist. So I
don't even call it that anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But wait, what you always school?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
You tell the gospels?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Because like, wow, it gospels where Sean was going this.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I knew he went to the title of the classes
like you are you your whole witness?
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Now?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
So have you converted to a new faith?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
It's okay, But I believe. I'm not gonna believe. I
believe in the gospel. What is the gospel the Gospel
of Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But what is gospel?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Storage of the Earth Through Joseph Smith Jr.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Oh, okay, I know, But what's gospel being in your
opinion in europeion, what's your interpretation? You can't look at uf,
you can't look at you can't look at you.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
It's it's first knowledge, you'd be ax. That's what it is.
Faith in Jesus that leads you through a bit. Those
are just those are principles of the gospel.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
That's gospossible, the good news, the good news everywhere you go,
that Jesus camp, He's for our says. All we got
to do is accept them, have faith, repent. Maybe that's
gospel anyway, speaking of good news, bear Bachmeiers eight no
b y Us eight No. Everybody's eight no in provo right, true, undefeated.
(31:27):
It's it's intact, ladies and gentlemen, and uh that that's
special man. And I was chatting with we're at the
ward party recently this past weekend. I was talking with
some of the the the the ward members, big fans
and the Creeks can confirm, big fans of B y
U and you like, they were watching the game right
(31:49):
and they're like, oh, they're fine, They're gonna let us
down like they always dos. You know. I was like, wait, wait,
come on, Like, like, when you look at it that way,
I'm like, do they just really always let us down?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Comparatively speaking, I guess we haven't had a magical transcendent season.
What was the last magical transcendent season? Some people say
it would be ninety six, Yeah, right, like where they
really just let you down. But they kind of did
because they were one lost team, right, so that was
like your last that was like your BCS bust and
we didn't get to bustin yet.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Last two years, right, you.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Got a pretty gosh dain good season and six o, seven,
even eight nine great seasons, okay, and then you were
you know, you kind of have these eight wins seasons
eight wins though, Guys like, if I say eight wins,
nine wins, we have been spoiled rotten. And I had
to bring up some data, right, you know me. I
(32:46):
was like, guys, like, I know, they they do let
you down sometimes, right because they don't want to score.
But every team lets you down. There are very few
undefeated teams in any sport, so yeah, they're eventually gonna
and considering that we are top ten and wins in
college football over the last fifty sixty years. I mean,
(33:07):
they really haven't let you down all that much when
you're your top ten and wins in college football over
a fifty year period, right a half century.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah, they're any There are a lot of teams in
college football that are looking up at you're alleged let down.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's what I'm saying, bro, Like we're spoiled Roden And
that was a beautiful bar by the poet that didn't
even know it, Sean Walker.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
And he just I say, bully fins get just a
little greedy?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Is that we all do?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We all do. Look at what like like what what
ls you just did?
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Absolutely give me more? Yeah you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Like what we were just in the college football playoff
last year.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
And a semi final.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
It's like wait to tick like you won a national
championship and last like I think four or five years.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Like you know, look, it is what it is. We
have high standards for our sports teams, and yes they
do let us down. Most teams let you down because
they're going to be losses. Only there's only one champion
in a given year. So yes, all teams let their
fan bases down every year, except for one team.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
And I think that's actually a really good point there, Ben,
because in an era where you, I mean you heard
it just this past weekend from LSU's athletic administration, a
couple weeks ago for Penn State's athletic administration. Florida even
jumped on this bandwagon when they officially finally.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Fired Billy Napier.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
You heard, you heard the reasoning, the rationale behind all
these firings being this is LSU, this has been saved,
this is Florida. We are a program where it's national
championship or bust. And these coaches very good coaches. James
Franklin is still a very good coach. He's gonna wind
up with a very good job next year. Brian Kelly
is still a very good coach.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Wants to just be on TV.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
I mean maybe, but I got a feeling these guys
are probably gonna wind up back in coaching. And I
think they're all very good coaches. And I think the
the thing that you need to be cognizant of. And
I would I would point this towards BYU. I would
point this towards their board of trustees have that administration.
Fans in general is with this bit of success that
(35:12):
you don't go thinking it's all about the playoff, it's
all about winning a national championship, getting to the national
title game. It's all about this, that, and the other.
Kalani Stockey should not be under threat to go anywhere
unless he goes he takes another job. I guess you
can't really control too much of that, but he should
(35:33):
not be in threat of going anywhere because of what
he's been able to do so far and what he
is currently doing with this program, regardless of you know,
maybe by you heaven forbid back to back seasons, they're
the first or second team out of the college Football Playoff.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
You know, maybe BYU doesn't.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Make that national championship game, maybe they're not a national
champion in the next ten years. Like what Kalani is
doing with this program, I think is able to stand
on its head, regardless of what sort of the the
topmost or the uppermost pressures are of what it means
to truly quote unquote whin at the highest level. Like
(36:10):
I think what's being done right now is pretty magical
in provo. And I would just caution anybody to be
wondering or waiting for or searching for that quote unquote
magical season based off of what maybe some other programs
have defined it in the past, because I think what's
happening right now is pretty magical by.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Itself and it does mean more. I think that that.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I think the You Talk and we discussed this a
lot on the show, like the foundational elements of football
growing up. Okay, you know, it's faith, family, football, it's teamwork,
it's it's it's we not me. All these things, uh
are still intact at BYU that it's it's more than
(36:57):
just football, it's individual and collective to development of young men.
Harbaugh I think said it best at least in the
modern era when he was at Michigant. He feels like,
outside of the US military and the refining fire of
the US military for young men, football is the last
(37:20):
bastion of developmental toughness for young men outside of the
US military.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
And I believe that. I believe in sports in general.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think the tough, gritty sports, physical sports that really
stretch you and maybe undermine the ego in narcissism of
a modern era. It's one of the last bastions of toughness,
in my opinion, outside the US military and so and
(37:54):
it's great, it's fantastic. It's wonderful that I think BYU
still has the toughness element, the faith element, the development element,
it's the educational element. And so for me, I don't
need to win a big twelve championship in order to
be happy with BA football. I'm a medium ter, former player,
I'm a donor, I'm all these things. I'm a fan like,
(38:16):
I'm everything here we're talking about here, and I don't
need a big towal championship. But I don't need a
national championship in order for me to feel like, hey,
BWA football is doing great things and bieus accomplishing a lot.
I think more and more people are becoming privy also
to like the good fruits of the culture. Are we
a perfect people? No?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Do we fall short every single day?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yes, But like more and more people are becoming a
breast modern era of the people that represent BYU and.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Its faith as an extension.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Of that and the positive fruits of the culture, the
positive fruits of the faith, the positive fruits of the
individual football players. The T shirt that the BA football
was wearing BBoy Football team was wearing, Yes, they had
their numbers on them. Okay, the pregame game day t shirts,
it was fear. It was faith highlighting below was fear.
(39:08):
So faith over fear. Right, that that's huge. And on
the back it says be the light. Now. I will
say when I first saw the light, I was like,
Miller Light.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I've heard some good.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Things about the kind can, so I'm probably that's a
little bit different with like the the you know, the
accentuation of the the beer can look like the.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Only Millers I know of our gall Miller and her
family up the road in Selic City.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, I'm sure, sure, I know more sinful pasteon dabbled
in a little bit of mammonry and maybe imbibed with
a beveren.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
What's the second principle of the gospel repentance?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
We talked to me.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
We started with gott.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt anyway, Like so I was like,
where is I gonna let Miller? Who's light? It's the
right beer now, But it's like be the light, be
the light, and we're not talking about the Miller lite.
We're not talking about the cores, like be the light
onto people, be the salt of the earth. Right, So
I love to tease, right. So I'm just I rejoice
that the foundational elements of why we play modern era
(40:14):
sports are still intact at BYU because the foundational why
of development and education and faith family football. There's very
few brotherhoods out there, guys. There just aren't there many
brotherhoods out there. We're seeing a high suicide rate of men,
(40:36):
and a lot of it has to do with, like,
unless you have a collaborative community of men that you
can kind of lean on and discuss things with and
have like core competency shared and like have like good
synergy with rather than being like you know, based in
social competitivism and fear and like you know, internalize everything
(40:57):
and introvert yourself. It's hard to sur i' in this life,
right because there's a lot of things that maybe uh
impact your your mental and emotional health and physical health
at that. So what I'm saying is is like, I'm
glad that that BAU football is doing it right. I
don't need a natty, I don't need a big twelve
CHAMPIONSHI would be nice awesome because it matters when you win, Yes,
(41:19):
But at the same time, I'm like, good, like we're
doing it foundationally from the bottom up the right way
and and not being transactional with like Penn State is
not being transactional when remember Kilani had a four win
season in twenty seventeen, four wins four nine. Yep, you
(41:43):
couldn't cross the fifty versus LSU and no one, no
one got fired, I mean you know, I mean, actually yeah,
they did couple people. So that was a little transactional.
That was a little transactional. But Kilanie's standard out a
lot of you and you wonder why, right, maybe there
was an influence that you know, there was something that
(42:05):
went awry from the administration standpoint, and they took a
little bit of.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Accountability on that.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
That's a thirty for thirty for another day that we
can't get into unless we got even more. You don't
got the statute of limitations en up when everyone wants.
Speaker 9 (42:20):
To talk about what went awrye with all that anyway,
even even more recently, uh b YU is nineteen and
two over the last two seasons so far with back
to back in and those starts right, so there riding eye, things.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Are going really well. First time.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
There were also only three years removed from going five
and seven in that first year in the Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
So I feel like we're doing it the right way.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
Though the highs, the you're you're never as good as
your highest highs, you're never as bad as you're low
as low as right and you're and you're think things
are going very well for this BA football program right now,
which is why I I think my overall point is
is simply just enjoy the ride for what it is.
Don't try to measure to what it quote unquote could be,
(43:03):
because eventually that pricycle is gonna get you. Eventually you're
gonna get a little bit humbled, and eventually you may
be looking at fifty four million dollars buy off here, coach.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Holy holy cow, that's a lot of filthy lucas.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Today, I got some numbers on coaching buyouts if you
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Speaker 2 (43:22):
Did you see what Ryan Smith said about the buyouts
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Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (43:32):
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stat out with the reported firing of Brian Kelly, college
football teams are on the hook for over one hundred
(43:53):
and sixty nine million in buyouts so far this season.
Brian Kelly fifty three million, l Sue James Franklin paid
State forty nine point seven million, Billy Napier Florida twenty
one point two million, Mike Gundy Oklahoma State fifteen million,
Sam Pittman Arkansas nine point eight million, to Shan Foster
UCLA six six point four million, Brent Priy Virginia Tech
(44:14):
six million, Trent Bray Oregon State four million, Trent Dilford
UAB two point four million, Jay Norvel called out.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Of state one point five million.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
So he comments here, and you'd say that Ryan Smith
knows a little bit about corporate America, entrepreneurship, organizational design,
and the sports and entertainment world.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
He say, he's pretty pretty of information. He says, at
this rate, college payouts will surpass that of the NBA, NFL,
Major League Baseball, and NHL come by not just individually,
the buyouts for firing coaches, administers to staff, support staff probably.
(45:01):
I mean you can't fire players, right, But like the
NCAA is one under a professional sports world now just
without investing in a proper front office. And this where
it's getting sticky. They don't have a front office. You
know who's running the front offices now? It's not the
ads donors, it's the NIL contributors and the corporate sponsors
(45:26):
there and they're run by fans, yep, fans. If you
don't know ball, and most of us don't, you have
a lot of.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Knee jerk reactions. You get really emotional.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
You think every play call that doesn't work is a
bad play call because it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
You think every coordinator is a horrible coordinator.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You think they're all a bunch of incompetence because you're
competent and competitive in your field because you made a
million dollars, you made one hundred million dollars. And what
you don't realize is many of the many of those fans,
those donors, the NIL contributors, they may be very competitive.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
And wealthy in their fields, but.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Are they truly many Maybe some of them are, but
are they truly operating and competing against the best entities
across state lines, and many of them are not Like
they're winning in their state, and they may be the
best in their state to a degree, but you're talking
about in college football, the best of the best in
(46:25):
the state going against the best of this best of
the other state. And that's when you go head to
head against the best. Right, if our show goes head
to head against the best of any show in the country,
we think we do a good show. We do a
good show in our market, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
And we're winning. We're getting market share.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
We got great neils and rings, we got great metrics,
Thank goodness, hallelujah that we haven't expanded signal. Thank you
Cougarnation for tuning in. But if we go head to
head against some of the best shows in other markets,
we may lose. We may be a six and six show,
we may be a four and nine. Right as I
want to believe that we're the best, But like it
is a part time gig for me. Ronald's kind of
(47:02):
part time. We're all part time over here doing a thing, hustling, right, right,
we got second jobs, we got mortgages to pay, we.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Got Bill's Bay anyway, like kids, heads are falling.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
You know all those things, right, but like when you
really and but yet you hold yourself your football teams
to the standard like we have to be ten and
two or else it's not good enough. We're not in
a college football playoff if we're not a collge football.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
Player and went not in the conference championship competing, if.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
We're not in the CFP, or if we didn't win
the conference championship.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
In an expanded expanded college football these the SEC has
added schools. This is a tougher league, Big twelve, Big
ten there, this is these are NFL like, these are
NFL conferences now meeting. Most these teams will be two
lost teams at the end of the season. And you
(47:54):
have a free market, unregulated system like so that Vanderbilts
and SMUs and by Us can now compete and win
and steal your talent, mister, mister steel, your talent.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Mister talent, Yeah, talent, talents, your athletes.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
It's it's like it's a new world. And they, the donors,
the the emotional toddler tyrants of college football are making
moves and they think they can do better. And I
think they're gonna have a root awakening. So like I said,
as eight, and oh, it's great, It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
It's marvelss so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Like I was going to a football season thinking, look,
what type of business owner am I?
Speaker 3 (48:39):
What type of employee am I?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
I'm probably on any giving you if feel like I'm
like a nine to three regular season guy at worst,
Like I'm an I'm an eight win football coach, I'm
an eight win like employee. I'm an eight win entrepreneur.
Like I'm pretty good. I'm going to bowl I'm like
b YU right like your and like I'm winning in
(49:01):
my field, I'm winning against my competition, and I'm going
to bowl games, but like I don't know how many years,
like I'm really like an eleven and two business owner
or an undefeated business owner. I take some l's every
once in a while, on any given week, in any
given month.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
It's hard to win them all, right, And.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
I'm going against some good competition in the sports media world,
and I'm going against good competition in the medical device world.
I can't win them all. I can't have a monopoly
on the market. I can't win all my championships. So
at any rate. I'm grateful is what I'm getting get
and I think we all need to be grateful and
really enjoy the moment. I was shot chatting with a
number of family members. Shout out to the show family.
We combine ourselves. We are the Shittles, right, we are
(49:41):
a power family, and we are doubly married. We were
definitely friends and family members in the pre existence.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
I believe that it was pre ordained.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
It was four day that we come down here and
we combined to create the Shittles, Okay, the chow Crittle family,
and we're talking as a family this weekend celebrating Jake
and EM's anniversary as well as Max's birthday. Shout out
to Maximus Show. He's gonna be a good one. He's
gonna be a great one on the football field. For Byu,
A Gosha don't guarantee you, but we were talking about how,
(50:16):
you know what, even if BYU lost to Iowa State,
this is still a hell of a season, still really
good seasons, and like that's that's a moment of clarity
for BA fans. I hope they've they've experienced that, because like,
even if by you lost versus Iowa State. I hope
you could come away from that. Look, we're going bowling
(50:37):
and we beat our rival. It's a pretty gosh saying
good season. I feel good about it. Feel good about it.
We got three straight against the years. Be grateful is
what I'm getting at right.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Well, what picture did us into the group chat Sunday?
Ben I sent a picture of what me Emily and
Jersey has said, Happy Sabbath Day. Remember the cherich of families.
That's his most important Rember like, remember look like you
were with your family. Look even if they would have lost,
you guys that have had a good time. It's been
a great season so far. There'll be some good ups
(51:09):
and some down still. Probably they could lose a game,
maybe two, maybe that last year knock on wood. That
is not but you know for our shake covering, but
it could be where you ens the title game again,
don't want to speak negative things, isn't but be a realist.
And I think sometimes that fans, you know, get too
knee jerk reaction. And I don't know if I if
I made every decision when when I were dating something,
(51:30):
every pinion that we didn't agree on a dency eyed
I I probably wouldn't be a married man, probably wouldn't
have little Jersey around. Very grateful, So I just slow down, think, breathe,
you know, drink or die coke, do some yoga, sauna,
be the lights stand on the hill, you know, go
to the temple, as we always say, been get the
spiritual part.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
Do what Kilaney says, recover the right way in all aspects.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
But yeah, it's been a great If they go and
lose Texas Tech, look it's still a great season.
Speaker 6 (51:57):
We'll go to every ten and three season. Is a
Steve Aangeli Achilles injury away from starting three and five.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
Not wrong.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
It happens that way. Happens sometimes the cookie crumbles that way,
you know, So be grateful. Tell me the break. We'll
continue to get into sound and some great interviews coming
up next.
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Kalani addressed the media yesterday and delve into a few
(07:28):
topics of interest. I would say, what about the health
of LJ. Martin, what's going on with Jack sach Kelly,
what do you got for me?
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Martin?
Speaker 2 (07:37):
Sorry, I heard you utter a few words in my ear. Okay,
we're gonna get it ready, We're gonna get it rolling.
Just momentarily, we're gonna get in some sound from Kilani
from the media availability yesterday. All right, let's get into it.
The opening statement from Kolani yesterday.
Speaker 8 (07:55):
Our team in a program in all three phases, So
we still have a lot of work to do. I
still feel like we can play better as a football team.
But after watching the film, I always state it's a
really good team, and I'm glad our guys were able
to respond to some adversity. Seems like that's what we've
been able to do quite a bit. So I feel
comfortable with.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Them doing that.
Speaker 8 (08:15):
I just my job is so we're not doing that
all the time, you know, but but if we need it,
we know we can play and come back from behind
and figure some things out. Really impressed with the effort
our guys gave and man, just just a really good
game for for what we saw on film. We'll build
off of it and make sure that we're ready for
the next one. And looking forward to this BIDO, we
(08:37):
can getting an early start on Texas Tech and and
then you know, making a strong push for these last
four games that we knew going into the season that
we would be in this position, and how to utilize
this week and I think everything's going really what's what
we plan and how it would look from our from
our our analytics that we're getting from the data that
we're getting from our players. And so let's put it
(09:00):
all together and see what happens this week and get
ourselves ready for some trigger treating on Friday.
Speaker 2 (09:07):
We have to put in a little trigger treating as well,
a little trunk or treat. I know in years past
they've actually done, uh these really cool trunk or treat
with the BYU Athletic Department events. Is that on the
docket this weekend? Do we know of any any U
any event where the Cougar athletes are going to be
(09:30):
handing out, doling out the sweet dulsays, the candies, the
higherctosed corn syrup laden delicious treats. I'll be honest, Like,
you know, those gummy nerds, Like I am not I
hate sugar sugar const catcher, but like those gummy nerds,
those little gummy nerd balls those things are freaking the best, phenomenal.
(09:51):
They are celestial, they are fantastic. That's the best candy.
That is best, the best candy on.
Speaker 6 (09:58):
Earth, second best candy on man, behind only Reese's Peanut
butter cups.
Speaker 2 (10:01):
Uh no, no, no, no chocolate. I mean look, chocolate
just doesn't do it for me. I don't really, no, man.
Speaker 5 (10:10):
Are chocolate Reese's peanut butter cup?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Na?
Speaker 3 (10:14):
Oh man? Yeah, you gotta you gotta get me some
ice cream?
Speaker 5 (10:17):
Good for your heart?
Speaker 2 (10:18):
Oh yeah, dark chocolate is not not Reese's Peanut butter cups.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
Chocolate Reese's peanut butter cups. Yeah, you said dark chocolate?
Speaker 3 (10:24):
Dark?
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Dark chocolate dark? Is it really good for you?
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Though?
Speaker 5 (10:28):
It's good for your with some peanut butter in the
gummies on candies in general.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:38):
We're gonna get back to the sound. Martin, Kelly, don't
you worry, my friend? What's your favorite candy? By the way, Martin,
what's your favorite candy? What do you got for Meese's
peanut butter cups? You're lying?
Speaker 3 (10:49):
You're a liar?
Speaker 5 (10:50):
Why lying?
Speaker 2 (10:51):
You sit on a throat? You're just saying that.
Speaker 5 (10:54):
Me a liar?
Speaker 7 (10:55):
I've been called fat, I've been called short, and I've
been calling a liar on this program.
Speaker 2 (10:58):
I ever called you shore called you tall?
Speaker 5 (11:01):
That's probably me.
Speaker 7 (11:02):
Yeah, but I called you a liar because I thought
you were piggybacking off of Sean.
Speaker 5 (11:13):
No peanut butter comes all the time? Why not?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
Really?
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (11:17):
When I had no idea, I had so many cup
guys here.
Speaker 5 (11:21):
Yeah, you can't really can't go wrong. I don't know.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
I mean, I kind of are you ronnic? Are you?
Are you re peanut butter cup guy too?
Speaker 5 (11:28):
I'm a butterfinger guy. I won't lie.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
Okay, so butterf Okay, I'm down with that hammer time.
I know you're off the air. But what do you
what's your what you get?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Okay?
Speaker 5 (11:37):
Man? Okay, maybe I'm Okaye's.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
I had made no idea. I'm surrounded by Reci's peanut butter.
Speaker 4 (11:48):
I feel like I'm a Twicks guy.
Speaker 2 (11:51):
I'm a Snickers guy before Ree's peanut butter.
Speaker 5 (11:53):
I'm a kick cat.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
I would rather have a kit cat too. I'll be honest,
I'll take all three of those. I mean I take
I'd probably take a butter figure are.
Speaker 6 (12:01):
A lot of us, there are dozens of Ussay, man,
I'm judging.
Speaker 2 (12:07):
I'm judging all you guys. I don't know what's up
with your palettes.
Speaker 3 (12:10):
I don't, I don't.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
I don't like it though, But if you give the
ice cream peanut butter cups because it like hardens up
a little bit, I'll take that all day. All right,
let's get back to the sound klade shittake making us
talk about candy and a football show. How rare is
it to have a true freshman that seems to have
never been rattled by anything?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
Well, I think you're right.
Speaker 8 (12:32):
The composure that he has a poise, it's something special.
But but you don't really how are you going to
simulate practices to see that. We tried as much as
we can, and we've we thought that this would be
the case that he would respond really well to it.
But to be honest, I love the way that he was.
That he's worked through the system, and this is with
(12:53):
him just starting in the summer, you know, and and.
Speaker 1 (12:58):
You start to see him be a.
Speaker 8 (12:59):
Lot more comfortable with what we're doing. Man, he's a
learning machine, so he's always trying to find ways to
get better. And I think he's so focused on trying
to find ways to get better that you're not really
worried about the environment, the situation, the circumstances that he's in.
He just wants to keep getting better. And that's where
things are going well or bad for the team. I
(13:22):
think I give a lot of credit to the way
a Rod's brought him along, and you know, a Rod
and Matt Mitchell have done a great job prepping him.
And then you have to give a lot of credit
to the other quarterbacks in the room. They work really
well together. Been really impressed with how those guys have
been able to help him. The players that have experience
and those that have knowledge that they're just in there
(13:43):
working together and sharing and and so we're really really
in a really good spot with with what we're seeing
from his teammates. And then he has a great supporting cast,
you know, from the lineman to the tight ends, to
the receivers and the running backs and so and then
that that even compliments with the support that he's getting
from the defense and the special teams, and then also
support that he's getting from all the fans and so
(14:06):
uh he he that's been amazing everything here. But the
way that the kid was raised. Uh, it doesn't surprise
me at all. And the way that he's connected to
his family. I mean you have to just look at
his big brother, not just Tiger, but also Hank and
how they've they've mentored him along the way.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
So it's this.
Speaker 8 (14:24):
Guy's been learning from the very beginning at a young
age and he has never stopped learning. And that that's
what a great example he can be to the rest
of our team. But super humble and love coaching him.
So we'll just keep rolling with it and see how
it keeps going, keeps progressing.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Auto the three man weaver what he got from Mili
with your commentary on that on the back end of
that sound by.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
Look, now I want to compare this.
Speaker 4 (14:45):
I need to be very careful because this guy is
not going to be the number eight overall pick in
a draft. But he reminds me of the old soul
like Diegor Demon. He really does, like Bear, Bear being
old and mature beyondest years, Like it reminds me of
remember we played in the summer? What yegor anything past
to all the music? He like, like, come on, what
(15:06):
are you talking about? Like Bear reminds me of like dude,
like a mature return missionary. And he's not like that's
what he does. He's just he's eighteen, but he doesn't
come off as the eighteen. I just had to give
that comparison old soul, old soul at b Is that why.
Speaker 5 (15:22):
He volunteers with his older brother Tiger. Yeah, he plays
Come on, man, I got come on like look at that.
Speaker 2 (15:27):
I'll be honest, like like some of my favorite service
projects on my mission were at the at the Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:35):
Yeah, helping out of the folks. That's You're not wrong.
Speaker 6 (15:39):
A lot of wisdom, wisdom I've gotta I've got a
I'll just say sources. I got a little mole u
down there in that residential facility down in Provo where
they volunteer. Uh.
Speaker 5 (15:48):
And I can't.
Speaker 6 (15:49):
Confirm the residents love the Backer boys.
Speaker 5 (15:54):
It's not just a show like the family.
Speaker 3 (15:57):
I think like the uncles there.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
They look forward to it every week. It's every other
week or so. Yeah, I think they comes either like
it's they're.
Speaker 3 (16:04):
Good, love it, love it. Uh.
Speaker 6 (16:08):
And what he's and what he's doing to pivot back
to football, what bear Backmeyer is doing is is uniquely
singular right now, not only with this BA football program.
But but just like nationally, you don't see true freshman.
Speaker 5 (16:21):
Doing what he's doing. Uh, in college football.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
He leads the country in most games with a rushing
at a passing touchdown at least one in one for
each of the first eight games of the season.
Speaker 5 (16:33):
That's number one in the FBS.
Speaker 6 (16:35):
He's the first true freshman starting quarterback to start eight
to zero since one Trevor Lawrence from Cumson in twenty eighteen.
It's only happened like I think three or four times
in the modern era.
Speaker 5 (16:48):
Of college football.
Speaker 6 (16:49):
But like, like what he's doing, you just you don't
see it very often. You gotta I think you gotta
give Bear a ton of credit and a ton of flowers,
as well as his family for raising him, right Coach
A Rod and Matt Mitchell for what they've been able
to do and bring him along. I mean, he's got
obviously a very good supporting cast around him. But you know,
you win with your quarterback, you lose with your quarterback.
(17:10):
Right now, b Why he's winning with their quarterback and
they're winning with the true freshman who's not playing like
a freshman in any sense of the word.
Speaker 3 (17:16):
Yeah. Uh, you know, I think to Ronnie's point.
Speaker 2 (17:20):
I wouldn't say he's a pontificator of Palaberus by any means,
but like not a way that he approaches the media.
He's very much like he's very much an old soul.
Seems like he's like that that that twenty like nine
year old savvy vet that knows a thing or two
about what the media's trying to get out. I know,
I know you're trying to get your answer.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I ain't give it to you.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
You know what I mean, He's not gonna give it
to us. He's not gonna give you the answer. He's
gonna make you work. He's gonna make you work. You
got to you got to earn the answer you're looking
for here. Uh, you mentioned Klata, you're going with a
more individualized approach to the bye week.
Speaker 3 (17:55):
What is the game plan there?
Speaker 8 (18:03):
Oh, it's everything, it's it's if everything, considering the individual
there's a lot of guys that that need to develop
and take the take advantage of this week to get better.
And so if you want quality depth, you have to
develop it too. And so you know, a lot of
these guys are one play away from being in the game.
So we have to this is a big, big work
(18:25):
week for them. Some guys we know that they've been
able to do it, they still need to stay in shape.
But you know, it's it's all specified to what what
our strength room wants them to do and what our
coaches are willing to work with them. But everything, everyone,
everyone is working together on how to get these guys
ready individually and then U you know, collectively that makes
the team better.
Speaker 2 (18:47):
Look So he's leaning very heavily on his sports scientists, right.
So obviously doctor Skyler remains a big part of that.
Colby Clawson is a huge part of that. Ryan Phillis
is a strict addition coach. He's part of that, uh,
doctor Britt Moore. So it's a big part of that.
And so you're going to construct a design around the
individual and that includes physical therapy, load management, modality management.
(19:13):
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have a hyperbaric chamber, they have multiple red light saunas
like these like beds that you can lay in and
you get like all spectrums of light into your muscular
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(19:33):
more of the traditional superficial red light. You have blue light,
you got green light, you got purple light, you got
all manner, you got you got fushia light. I don't know, man,
there's a lot of different lights that can penetrate into
the skin and into the muscular skeletal system.
Speaker 3 (19:48):
They got it all down there. They have tech are they.
Speaker 2 (19:53):
Have pulsed wave technology, shockwave technology, radio shockwave, they have
lasers right for fox goal uh, muscular skeletal conditions and
things of that nature.
Speaker 3 (20:04):
And and so they're.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
They're bought in to the holistic recovery that you need.
And then on the nutritional side too. Offical supplementation is
a key, core, core, core element to that, but also
just getting the right nutrients in your body that react
well with your your gassing, intestinal health, all of that,
(20:28):
your microbiome.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
They're getting into the science of it, and that's what's elevating.
You look at BYU's injury report, okay, and you compare
it to who they've played against up to this point.
You look at the side by side, okay, and it's
pretty insane how much healthier by us versus their their opponents.
(20:51):
And now I'm not saying the BA hasn't had some injuries,
but there haven't been as many like like season ending
injuries this year and as comparatively speaking to their foes,
that needs to be highlighted, that needs to be celebrated,
and a bye week couldn't come at a better time
Prior to the Texas Tech game. Who is at their place?
Speaker 3 (21:13):
This is the toughest game on the schedule.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
I believe in and Baron Morton will most likely I
thin he gets in here in the Kansastate game is
most likely to be your start. I'm just saying knock
on with.
Speaker 4 (21:23):
Baron because he's been injured so much, like yeah, Like,
I don't mean, I'm not trying to come off rude.
Speaker 5 (21:28):
He gets hurt a lot.
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Yeah, Like how many times has he been injured?
Speaker 2 (21:31):
Have you have you DAYD I was going back and looking.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
I think he's been injured seven times in the last
like two seasons, Like I don't know last last two
to three going back to twenty twenty.
Speaker 5 (21:39):
He's come back from.
Speaker 6 (21:40):
Injury twice already this Year's had to replace him twice.
Speaker 5 (21:43):
And Will haven't replaced him.
Speaker 4 (21:45):
Will Hammond replaced him three times last year in twenty
twenty four season, Like it's a lot, so, yeah.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
He could get injured and they can't stay here.
Speaker 2 (21:53):
Now we want everyone at knockout way, like we want
to play against Baron Morton, because you don't want Utah
fans coming into your mentions and say, you guys haven't
played anybody to be fair like a drunken stupor on
Twitter like you guys, you guys, she didn't to be
(22:15):
fair to Uh.
Speaker 5 (22:17):
Utah has also not been beaten by Barry Morton this year.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
That's true, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (22:22):
But like, you know what's gonna happen right the you
know you Tha fans are just gonna be like, look,
you didn't get to you didn't face Baron Morton. So
and like they're not even gonna be able to project
and and realize what they're putting themselves in tune with
that logic, right, they're gonna forget that they they they
didn't even play Baron Morton. Yeah, you didn't play will happen?
Will happens better.
Speaker 3 (22:43):
Than Baron Morton anyway.
Speaker 6 (22:45):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (22:45):
We don't want to have to go down that path,
you know, with our with our rivals up north.
Speaker 6 (22:49):
To the to this but that back back to the
back to the subject of injury prevention and management and
and a lot of a lot of What's impressed me
the most about Kobe Clausen, doctor Mayne Ryan phillis with
strength and strength conditioning and all of all the physicisms
there is not just by us overall availability or lack
(23:14):
of injury injury prevention, because injuries happen.
Speaker 5 (23:16):
It's football, right, like they tend to happen.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
But the way they've been able to manage the injuries
that have popped up to where you know, former season
ending injuries no longer are necessary necessarily, where former you know,
two three month injuries are now two or three week
injuries Like That's that's the kind of thing that I
think is maybe impressed me the most about this staff
(23:40):
and what they're doing, both on the sports medicine side,
sports science and strength and conditioning, all of that.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
What should I mean you say it all the time,
and what's your greatest ability in the game of football?
Speaker 3 (23:50):
Always the available, It's.
Speaker 6 (23:52):
Always availability and bi us availability. I mean, it hasn't
always been perfect, but the way they've been able to
bounce back through some of those physical adversities I think
has been really impressive this year.
Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, and I mean, there's certain injuries that I I think, like,
for instance, with Isaiah Glasger, you know, Tommy, I think
they probably should have shut him down because they were
they've been a shadow of themselves and they kind of
continue to kind of re injure themselves.
Speaker 3 (24:19):
It probably would have been better to.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Rehab them for like two weeks straight, get them in
a boot, whatever that, you know, whatever it is that.
Speaker 3 (24:26):
They're dealing with.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
But then again, you know, guys want to play, and
they want to try to fight through things. And the
old school mentality is to try to fight through those things.
And and unless you're gonna be given like the tortal
shots to the arm and the light of Kane focally
to certain injuries, you're not gonna be able to push
through the pain as much. Medraw packs and predno Zone
(24:47):
and IVU Profen and Tortoll pills, they just don't have
the same effect as the intravenous, sub subcutaneous type of
injections that that I got to take.
Speaker 3 (25:00):
Pardon it was great. It allowed me to play.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
I'm so glad I played in two thousand and five
to two thousand and seven because I got those into
my ankle and.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
Into my arms just tremendous.
Speaker 2 (25:09):
I was able to play level Oh so good man, Yeah,
a little oral, uh you know, pain mets too, just
to you know, take the edge off. Dude, you guys
realize that Aaron Rodgers and he admitted that, like like
just eating vico ins before games, Like you wonder why
we're all like addicted to drugs as football players after
(25:34):
our careers be a collegiates a much larger conversation about
football one hundred. But like we're like, we gotta play
this week. I gotta ball out, Like are are you
gotta realize like the intrinsic like identity that we have
as athletes like to play. We gotta play like this
is who I am. My self esteem and identity is
(25:56):
is completely enveloped in this persona. I gotta play. And
then you get done with football, You're like, why am
I depressed? Why why am I having these horrible thoughts
my identity? I'm no longer a human anyways. That's why
BA has got to be different. Let me, that's why
(26:17):
BoA's gotta be different. But also we gotta be better
about helping them transition into the next step of competitive life,
which is typically corporate America and utilizable for me, the
education received a brig at Brigham in a uh in
a great way and crown.
Speaker 5 (26:33):
He's done a good job of doing both.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
Yeah, you gotta look, we still needed We got to
do even a better job.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
So that's gonna take a community that's gonna take the
entire cougarnation out there to mentor aid and support these
b YU football players. Anyways, I pontificated a little bit
too far on that. It's okay, we.
Speaker 3 (26:51):
Can full circle. B way was healthy.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
They are strong, they are nourished, they are strengthened, and
we're seeing it on the injury report. Okay, And that
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Yeah, well a little bit of fool I mean I
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little Hurricane that was bare black. While you heard of
the post game, he says, I like to listen to
the songs that playing over them the PA and they
were playing luke holes there at Iowaish stays what songs
did they take? Play it and labela Edward Stadium pregame?
Speaker 3 (29:09):
What's on our plate?
Speaker 2 (29:12):
It shuts your mouth. I'm a big fan of the
plopform popping on it. I have a four year old
or two year old, so we we definitely love popcorn
popping on the saying that I'm a I'm a primary
teacher as well, so we like to get into the
primary songs. I cried, I cried. I've cried multiple times
in primary singing time.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
Guys.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
I mean, I'll tell you what. Brett's shaking his head
in a in an affirmation and affirmative way like I
cry in primary during primary singing time, like probably three
times for.
Speaker 5 (29:44):
You guys, and I felt the spirit primary singing time.
Speaker 2 (29:46):
It gets it. It's the hit bro like in the
shout out to SHAWNA. Jorganson. She picked a great song
for us to be singing. It's a specialty song. I
was like, we were like doing the humming, and I'm like,
I'm like wiping tears, like I can't even see man.
I just anyway, the spirit was strong.
Speaker 5 (30:03):
Anyway.
Speaker 6 (30:04):
Uh, I don't know what you're talking about. This is
an organization that I don't recall.
Speaker 5 (30:08):
I attend to. I attend a higher version of the
Gospel of Jesus Christ where primaries don't exist. So I
don't even call it that anymore.
Speaker 2 (30:17):
But wait, what you always school?
Speaker 5 (30:21):
You tell the gospels?
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Because like, wow, it gospels where Sean was going this.
Speaker 5 (30:27):
I knew he went to the title of the classes
like you are you your whole witness?
Speaker 6 (30:30):
Now?
Speaker 3 (30:31):
So have you converted to a new faith?
Speaker 5 (30:33):
It's okay, But I believe. I'm not gonna believe. I
believe in the gospel. What is the gospel the Gospel
of Jesus Christ?
Speaker 3 (30:40):
But what is gospel?
Speaker 5 (30:41):
Storage of the Earth Through Joseph Smith Jr.
Speaker 2 (30:43):
Oh, okay, I know, But what's gospel being in your
opinion in europeion, what's your interpretation? You can't look at uf,
you can't look at you can't look at you.
Speaker 5 (30:54):
It's it's first knowledge, you'd be ax. That's what it is.
Faith in Jesus that leads you through a bit. Those
are just those are principles of the gospel.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
That's gospossible, the good news, the good news everywhere you go,
that Jesus camp, He's for our says. All we got
to do is accept them, have faith, repent. Maybe that's
gospel anyway, speaking of good news, bear Bachmeiers eight no
b y Us eight No. Everybody's eight no in provo right, true, undefeated.
(31:27):
It's it's intact, ladies and gentlemen, and uh that that's
special man. And I was chatting with we're at the
ward party recently this past weekend. I was talking with
some of the the the the ward members, big fans
and the Creeks can confirm, big fans of B y
U and you like, they were watching the game right
(31:49):
and they're like, oh, they're fine, They're gonna let us
down like they always dos. You know. I was like, wait, wait,
come on, Like, like, when you look at it that way,
I'm like, do they just really always let us down?
Speaker 3 (32:01):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (32:02):
Comparatively speaking, I guess we haven't had a magical transcendent season.
What was the last magical transcendent season? Some people say
it would be ninety six, Yeah, right, like where they
really just let you down. But they kind of did
because they were one lost team, right, so that was
like your last that was like your BCS bust and
we didn't get to bustin yet.
Speaker 5 (32:23):
Last two years, right, you.
Speaker 2 (32:26):
Got a pretty gosh dain good season and six o, seven,
even eight nine great seasons, okay, and then you were
you know, you kind of have these eight wins seasons
eight wins though, Guys like, if I say eight wins,
nine wins, we have been spoiled rotten. And I had
to bring up some data, right, you know me. I
(32:46):
was like, guys, like, I know, they they do let
you down sometimes, right because they don't want to score.
But every team lets you down. There are very few
undefeated teams in any sport, so yeah, they're eventually gonna
and considering that we are top ten and wins in
college football over the last fifty sixty years. I mean,
(33:07):
they really haven't let you down all that much when
you're your top ten and wins in college football over
a fifty year period, right a half century.
Speaker 6 (33:18):
Yeah, they're any There are a lot of teams in
college football that are looking up at you're alleged let down.
Speaker 2 (33:23):
That's what I'm saying, bro, Like we're spoiled Roden And
that was a beautiful bar by the poet that didn't
even know it, Sean Walker.
Speaker 5 (33:33):
And he just I say, bully fins get just a
little greedy?
Speaker 3 (33:36):
Is that we all do?
Speaker 2 (33:37):
Everybody?
Speaker 3 (33:37):
We all do. Look at what like like what what
ls you just did?
Speaker 5 (33:43):
Absolutely give me more? Yeah you know what I mean?
Speaker 2 (33:46):
Like what we were just in the college football playoff
last year.
Speaker 3 (33:48):
And a semi final.
Speaker 4 (33:48):
It's like wait to tick like you won a national
championship and last like I think four or five years.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
Like you know, look, it is what it is. We
have high standards for our sports teams, and yes they
do let us down. Most teams let you down because
they're going to be losses. Only there's only one champion
in a given year. So yes, all teams let their
fan bases down every year, except for one team.
Speaker 6 (34:11):
And I think that's actually a really good point there, Ben,
because in an era where you, I mean you heard
it just this past weekend from LSU's athletic administration, a
couple weeks ago for Penn State's athletic administration. Florida even
jumped on this bandwagon when they officially finally.
Speaker 5 (34:26):
Fired Billy Napier.
Speaker 6 (34:27):
You heard, you heard the reasoning, the rationale behind all
these firings being this is LSU, this has been saved,
this is Florida. We are a program where it's national
championship or bust. And these coaches very good coaches. James
Franklin is still a very good coach. He's gonna wind
up with a very good job next year. Brian Kelly
is still a very good coach.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Wants to just be on TV.
Speaker 6 (34:49):
I mean maybe, but I got a feeling these guys
are probably gonna wind up back in coaching. And I
think they're all very good coaches. And I think the
the thing that you need to be cognizant of. And
I would I would point this towards BYU. I would
point this towards their board of trustees have that administration.
Fans in general is with this bit of success that
(35:12):
you don't go thinking it's all about the playoff, it's
all about winning a national championship, getting to the national
title game. It's all about this, that, and the other.
Kalani Stockey should not be under threat to go anywhere
unless he goes he takes another job. I guess you
can't really control too much of that, but he should
(35:33):
not be in threat of going anywhere because of what
he's been able to do so far and what he
is currently doing with this program, regardless of you know,
maybe by you heaven forbid back to back seasons, they're
the first or second team out of the college Football Playoff.
Speaker 5 (35:49):
You know, maybe BYU doesn't.
Speaker 6 (35:50):
Make that national championship game, maybe they're not a national
champion in the next ten years. Like what Kalani is
doing with this program, I think is able to stand
on its head, regardless of what sort of the the
topmost or the uppermost pressures are of what it means
to truly quote unquote whin at the highest level. Like
(36:10):
I think what's being done right now is pretty magical
in provo. And I would just caution anybody to be
wondering or waiting for or searching for that quote unquote
magical season based off of what maybe some other programs
have defined it in the past, because I think what's
happening right now is pretty magical by.
Speaker 3 (36:31):
Itself and it does mean more. I think that that.
Speaker 2 (36:34):
I think the You Talk and we discussed this a
lot on the show, like the foundational elements of football
growing up. Okay, you know, it's faith, family, football, it's teamwork,
it's it's it's we not me. All these things, uh
are still intact at BYU that it's it's more than
(36:57):
just football, it's individual and collective to development of young men.
Harbaugh I think said it best at least in the
modern era when he was at Michigant. He feels like,
outside of the US military and the refining fire of
the US military for young men, football is the last
(37:20):
bastion of developmental toughness for young men outside of the
US military.
Speaker 3 (37:27):
And I believe that. I believe in sports in general.
Speaker 2 (37:30):
I think the tough, gritty sports, physical sports that really
stretch you and maybe undermine the ego in narcissism of
a modern era. It's one of the last bastions of toughness,
in my opinion, outside the US military and so and
(37:54):
it's great, it's fantastic. It's wonderful that I think BYU
still has the toughness element, the faith element, the development element,
it's the educational element. And so for me, I don't
need to win a big twelve championship in order to
be happy with BA football. I'm a medium ter, former player,
I'm a donor, I'm all these things. I'm a fan like,
(38:16):
I'm everything here we're talking about here, and I don't
need a big towal championship. But I don't need a
national championship in order for me to feel like, hey,
BWA football is doing great things and bieus accomplishing a lot.
I think more and more people are becoming privy also
to like the good fruits of the culture. Are we
a perfect people? No?
Speaker 3 (38:35):
Do we fall short every single day?
Speaker 2 (38:37):
Yes, But like more and more people are becoming a
breast modern era of the people that represent BYU and.
Speaker 3 (38:45):
Its faith as an extension.
Speaker 2 (38:47):
Of that and the positive fruits of the culture, the
positive fruits of the faith, the positive fruits of the
individual football players. The T shirt that the BA football
was wearing BBoy Football team was wearing, Yes, they had
their numbers on them. Okay, the pregame game day t shirts,
it was fear. It was faith highlighting below was fear.
(39:08):
So faith over fear. Right, that that's huge. And on
the back it says be the light. Now. I will
say when I first saw the light, I was like,
Miller Light.
Speaker 3 (39:20):
I've heard some good.
Speaker 2 (39:21):
Things about the kind can, so I'm probably that's a
little bit different with like the the you know, the
accentuation of the the beer can look like the.
Speaker 6 (39:30):
Only Millers I know of our gall Miller and her
family up the road in Selic City.
Speaker 2 (39:34):
Yeah, I'm sure, sure, I know more sinful pasteon dabbled
in a little bit of mammonry and maybe imbibed with
a beveren.
Speaker 5 (39:44):
What's the second principle of the gospel repentance?
Speaker 2 (39:47):
We talked to me.
Speaker 3 (39:48):
We started with gott.
Speaker 2 (39:51):
Yeah, yeah, no doubt anyway, Like so I was like,
where is I gonna let Miller? Who's light? It's the
right beer now, But it's like be the light, be
the light, and we're not talking about the Miller lite.
We're not talking about the cores, like be the light
onto people, be the salt of the earth. Right, So
I love to tease, right. So I'm just I rejoice
that the foundational elements of why we play modern era
(40:14):
sports are still intact at BYU because the foundational why
of development and education and faith family football. There's very
few brotherhoods out there, guys. There just aren't there many
brotherhoods out there. We're seeing a high suicide rate of men,
(40:36):
and a lot of it has to do with, like,
unless you have a collaborative community of men that you
can kind of lean on and discuss things with and
have like core competency shared and like have like good
synergy with rather than being like you know, based in
social competitivism and fear and like you know, internalize everything
(40:57):
and introvert yourself. It's hard to sur i' in this life,
right because there's a lot of things that maybe uh
impact your your mental and emotional health and physical health
at that. So what I'm saying is is like, I'm
glad that that BAU football is doing it right. I
don't need a natty, I don't need a big twelve
CHAMPIONSHI would be nice awesome because it matters when you win, Yes,
(41:19):
But at the same time, I'm like, good, like we're
doing it foundationally from the bottom up the right way
and and not being transactional with like Penn State is
not being transactional when remember Kilani had a four win
season in twenty seventeen, four wins four nine. Yep, you
(41:43):
couldn't cross the fifty versus LSU and no one, no
one got fired, I mean you know, I mean, actually yeah,
they did couple people. So that was a little transactional.
That was a little transactional. But Kilanie's standard out a
lot of you and you wonder why, right, maybe there
was an influence that you know, there was something that
(42:05):
went awry from the administration standpoint, and they took a
little bit of.
Speaker 3 (42:08):
Accountability on that.
Speaker 2 (42:09):
That's a thirty for thirty for another day that we
can't get into unless we got even more. You don't
got the statute of limitations en up when everyone wants.
Speaker 9 (42:20):
To talk about what went awrye with all that anyway,
even even more recently, uh b YU is nineteen and
two over the last two seasons so far with back
to back in and those starts right, so there riding eye, things.
Speaker 5 (42:32):
Are going really well. First time.
Speaker 6 (42:34):
There were also only three years removed from going five
and seven in that first year in the Big twelve.
Speaker 2 (42:38):
So I feel like we're doing it the right way.
Speaker 6 (42:41):
Though the highs, the you're you're never as good as
your highest highs, you're never as bad as you're low
as low as right and you're and you're think things
are going very well for this BA football program right now,
which is why I I think my overall point is
is simply just enjoy the ride for what it is.
Don't try to measure to what it quote unquote could be,
(43:03):
because eventually that pricycle is gonna get you. Eventually you're
gonna get a little bit humbled, and eventually you may
be looking at fifty four million dollars buy off here, coach.
Speaker 2 (43:10):
Holy holy cow, that's a lot of filthy lucas.
Speaker 6 (43:17):
Today, I got some numbers on coaching buyouts if you
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Speaker 2 (43:22):
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Speaker 3 (43:31):
Yeah.
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stat out with the reported firing of Brian Kelly, college
football teams are on the hook for over one hundred
(43:53):
and sixty nine million in buyouts so far this season.
Brian Kelly fifty three million, l Sue James Franklin paid
State forty nine point seven million, Billy Napier Florida twenty
one point two million, Mike Gundy Oklahoma State fifteen million,
Sam Pittman Arkansas nine point eight million, to Shan Foster
UCLA six six point four million, Brent Priy Virginia Tech
(44:14):
six million, Trent Bray Oregon State four million, Trent Dilford
UAB two point four million, Jay Norvel called out.
Speaker 3 (44:21):
Of state one point five million.
Speaker 2 (44:23):
So he comments here, and you'd say that Ryan Smith
knows a little bit about corporate America, entrepreneurship, organizational design,
and the sports and entertainment world.
Speaker 5 (44:36):
Right.
Speaker 2 (44:36):
He say, he's pretty pretty of information. He says, at
this rate, college payouts will surpass that of the NBA, NFL,
Major League Baseball, and NHL come by not just individually,
the buyouts for firing coaches, administers to staff, support staff probably.
(45:01):
I mean you can't fire players, right, But like the
NCAA is one under a professional sports world now just
without investing in a proper front office. And this where
it's getting sticky. They don't have a front office. You
know who's running the front offices now? It's not the
ads donors, it's the NIL contributors and the corporate sponsors
(45:26):
there and they're run by fans, yep, fans. If you
don't know ball, and most of us don't, you have
a lot of.
Speaker 3 (45:35):
Knee jerk reactions. You get really emotional.
Speaker 2 (45:38):
You think every play call that doesn't work is a
bad play call because it didn't work.
Speaker 3 (45:42):
You think every coordinator is a horrible coordinator.
Speaker 2 (45:44):
You think they're all a bunch of incompetence because you're
competent and competitive in your field because you made a
million dollars, you made one hundred million dollars. And what
you don't realize is many of the many of those fans,
those donors, the NIL contributors, they may be very competitive.
Speaker 3 (46:02):
And wealthy in their fields, but.
Speaker 2 (46:04):
Are they truly many Maybe some of them are, but
are they truly operating and competing against the best entities
across state lines, and many of them are not Like
they're winning in their state, and they may be the
best in their state to a degree, but you're talking
about in college football, the best of the best in
(46:25):
the state going against the best of this best of
the other state. And that's when you go head to
head against the best. Right, if our show goes head
to head against the best of any show in the country,
we think we do a good show. We do a
good show in our market, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 3 (46:39):
And we're winning. We're getting market share.
Speaker 2 (46:42):
We got great neils and rings, we got great metrics,
Thank goodness, hallelujah that we haven't expanded signal. Thank you
Cougarnation for tuning in. But if we go head to
head against some of the best shows in other markets,
we may lose. We may be a six and six show,
we may be a four and nine. Right as I
want to believe that we're the best, But like it
is a part time gig for me. Ronald's kind of
(47:02):
part time. We're all part time over here doing a thing, hustling, right, right,
we got second jobs, we got mortgages to pay, we.
Speaker 5 (47:09):
Got Bill's Bay anyway, like kids, heads are falling.
Speaker 2 (47:13):
You know all those things, right, but like when you
really and but yet you hold yourself your football teams
to the standard like we have to be ten and
two or else it's not good enough. We're not in
a college football playoff if we're not a collge football.
Speaker 5 (47:27):
Player and went not in the conference championship competing, if.
Speaker 3 (47:30):
We're not in the CFP, or if we didn't win
the conference championship.
Speaker 2 (47:33):
In an expanded expanded college football these the SEC has
added schools. This is a tougher league, Big twelve, Big
ten there, this is these are NFL like, these are
NFL conferences now meeting. Most these teams will be two
lost teams at the end of the season. And you
(47:54):
have a free market, unregulated system like so that Vanderbilts
and SMUs and by Us can now compete and win
and steal your talent, mister, mister steel, your talent.
Speaker 5 (48:08):
Mister talent, Yeah, talent, talents, your athletes.
Speaker 2 (48:15):
It's it's like it's a new world. And they, the donors,
the the emotional toddler tyrants of college football are making
moves and they think they can do better. And I
think they're gonna have a root awakening. So like I said,
as eight, and oh, it's great, It's fantastic.
Speaker 3 (48:32):
It's marvelss so wonderful.
Speaker 2 (48:33):
Like I was going to a football season thinking, look,
what type of business owner am I?
Speaker 3 (48:39):
What type of employee am I?
Speaker 2 (48:41):
I'm probably on any giving you if feel like I'm
like a nine to three regular season guy at worst,
Like I'm an I'm an eight win football coach, I'm
an eight win like employee. I'm an eight win entrepreneur.
Like I'm pretty good. I'm going to bowl I'm like
b YU right like your and like I'm winning in
(49:01):
my field, I'm winning against my competition, and I'm going
to bowl games, but like I don't know how many years,
like I'm really like an eleven and two business owner
or an undefeated business owner. I take some l's every
once in a while, on any given week, in any
given month.
Speaker 3 (49:16):
It's hard to win them all, right, And.
Speaker 2 (49:18):
I'm going against some good competition in the sports media world,
and I'm going against good competition in the medical device world.
I can't win them all. I can't have a monopoly
on the market. I can't win all my championships. So
at any rate. I'm grateful is what I'm getting get
and I think we all need to be grateful and
really enjoy the moment. I was shot chatting with a
number of family members. Shout out to the show family.
We combine ourselves. We are the Shittles, right, we are
(49:41):
a power family, and we are doubly married. We were
definitely friends and family members in the pre existence.
Speaker 3 (49:50):
I believe that it was pre ordained.
Speaker 2 (49:52):
It was four day that we come down here and
we combined to create the Shittles, Okay, the chow Crittle family,
and we're talking as a family this weekend celebrating Jake
and EM's anniversary as well as Max's birthday. Shout out
to Maximus Show. He's gonna be a good one. He's
gonna be a great one on the football field. For Byu,
A Gosha don't guarantee you, but we were talking about how,
(50:16):
you know what, even if BYU lost to Iowa State,
this is still a hell of a season, still really
good seasons, and like that's that's a moment of clarity
for BA fans. I hope they've they've experienced that, because like,
even if by you lost versus Iowa State. I hope
you could come away from that. Look, we're going bowling
(50:37):
and we beat our rival. It's a pretty gosh saying
good season. I feel good about it. Feel good about it.
We got three straight against the years. Be grateful is
what I'm getting at right.
Speaker 4 (50:48):
Well, what picture did us into the group chat Sunday?
Ben I sent a picture of what me Emily and
Jersey has said, Happy Sabbath Day. Remember the cherich of families.
That's his most important Rember like, remember look like you
were with your family. Look even if they would have lost,
you guys that have had a good time. It's been
a great season so far. There'll be some good ups
(51:09):
and some down still. Probably they could lose a game,
maybe two, maybe that last year knock on wood. That
is not but you know for our shake covering, but
it could be where you ens the title game again,
don't want to speak negative things, isn't but be a realist.
And I think sometimes that fans, you know, get too
knee jerk reaction. And I don't know if I if
I made every decision when when I were dating something,
(51:30):
every pinion that we didn't agree on a dency eyed
I I probably wouldn't be a married man, probably wouldn't
have little Jersey around. Very grateful, So I just slow down, think, breathe,
you know, drink or die coke, do some yoga, sauna,
be the lights stand on the hill, you know, go
to the temple, as we always say, been get the
spiritual part.
Speaker 5 (51:50):
Do what Kilaney says, recover the right way in all aspects.
Speaker 4 (51:53):
But yeah, it's been a great If they go and
lose Texas Tech, look it's still a great season.
Speaker 6 (51:57):
We'll go to every ten and three season. Is a
Steve Aangeli Achilles injury away from starting three and five.
Speaker 5 (52:03):
Not wrong.
Speaker 2 (52:05):
It happens that way. Happens sometimes the cookie crumbles that way,
you know, So be grateful. Tell me the break. We'll
continue to get into sound and some great interviews coming
up next.
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