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get into the mind of a former BAYU wide receiver
and discuss the win over Iowa State, how the offense

(00:49):
and a Rod did some magical things, Give them a
little bit of credit, give them their flowers, especially a Rod,
and discuss what a bye week will have that bodes
well for by you getting healthy, getting strong, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically.

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receiver Jared Bledshoe.

Speaker 1 (01:38):
In the house was up, Jared, what's up? Man?

Speaker 2 (01:40):
First and foremost house. Westlake's third grade team doing right now.
I heard we may have a ship, we may have
a chip that is pending.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
We absolutely do. We had a great game this past week.

Speaker 3 (01:54):
We played Mountain Viewing and they came out on top
forty two to twenty, so.

Speaker 1 (01:58):
We dominated performance. It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 (02:01):
We've got a championship game this Saturday at two pm.
It's west Lake versus sky Ridge two undefeated teams about
to go at it, and we're excited so much fun
coaching these little guys and seeing them develop and grow,
and and we've got some superstars on this team that
are going to be some D one players cranking in

(02:22):
some nil one of these days.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
Let's go get that nil. Boys, love bet. Let's transition
over to a win on the road versus Ioway stayed
in front of sixty two thousand fans, have sold out crowd.
I think this was actually the first true roadtest. Some
people say Colorado. Colorado was not nearly as rockous, nearly
as wild, nearly as loud.

Speaker 1 (02:45):
It just wasn't. You of A had a storm delay.

Speaker 2 (02:48):
You of A has I A would say a transient
fan base.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
It's just not.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
They're a basketball town. That's how it always has been
in Tucson. I have two brothers that attended U of A.
I'm from Arizona. They just don't got it. It's not
a true road environment. And there were other extenuating circumstances
with the rain delay.

Speaker 1 (03:11):
Et cetera. So this was truly the first road game.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
And the great thing about this schedule, it's been this
incremental difficulty. It's been a certain level of incremental difficulty.
You play your best team I think you played is
actually Utahan. You got them at home in front of
your sold out crowd, but you didn't get them until
you know, the middle of the season, which was great.
You had a two freshman quarterback. It's setting up nicely

(03:37):
right now. And obviously b YU get some bye weekend.
Then they go on the road to Texas Tech. You're
you're on the road versus a very good Texas Tech team,
maybe the best team in the Big twelve. They have
one loss to a issue on the road, and they
had a bit of a pride cycle situation. But going
back to the Iowa State game, great lessons learned. What

(03:58):
were your takeaways from this game? What stood out to
you the most prominent things that you learned about this.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
BA football team.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Yeah, so the first half was was a challenge, right
we were we had our.

Speaker 1 (04:10):
Backs against the wall.

Speaker 3 (04:12):
J Hill had a lot to absorb in that first
half and a lot to take into halftime with his
coaches and make some determinations on how they were going
to stop Iowa State.

Speaker 1 (04:24):
Losing l J. Martin early in the game was a
big deal for BYU.

Speaker 3 (04:29):
And I'll tell you what Aaron Roderick as an offensive coordinator,
what he's able to do is he's able to take
the personnel that he has on the field and game
plan directly around them.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Who would have thought LJ would be out right? Who
would have thought that we would not rush? But what
was our total for rushing?

Speaker 2 (04:50):
Well, we we ran the ball not good right, right? No,
Comparatively we got to one hundred and three yards. By
the way, Bear was your leading rusher though, at forty
nine yards at twelve carries.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
Press and Rex had six carries for seventeen yards. LJ.
Martin was five for fifteen.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
Even when LJ was in, It's not like he was
he was killing the dominant, No, he wasn't dominating. Two
carries for Porker Kingston for twelve Enich Nowaheny had three
for ten.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:19):
So going in, I'm sure the game plan was built
around running the ball of the play action day LJ
making you know, and LJ would have found it was
the beginning of the game. I think we were still
kind of feeling out what we needed to do, and
I think LJ probably would have still rushed for eighty
to one hundred yards had he been healthy the whole game.

Speaker 1 (05:37):
What Aaron Roddick was able to do.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Now, as we were talking earlier, you can have the
best game plan and send the best play in and
if the players don't perform, it doesn't matter. But he
has taken and put Bear in positions that he's confident
that Bear can can it can actually you know, complete
the pass, you know, and given him opportunities to make plays.

(06:00):
And Parker Kingston another great game, what a great what
a play? I mean that that end zone catch. And
by the way, when you watch that play and you
listen to it, the sound of the b y U
fans almost had a sense of home game when he scored.
When he took that ball at the high point into
that end zone, the sound was like, where are we?

Speaker 1 (06:21):
It sounds like we got rockies. It was kay, got
a little rockish too.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
He may have uttered a certain particular word that got
me a little lamped, got me a little hype.

Speaker 1 (06:30):
Good good, and we need it, we need it. And
that's my fetching ball, he said, He said, fetch. Of
course he did, of course he did, b YU come on,
man's right.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
But you know, it was fun to watch, it was
It was great to see our our kicking game perform
well and and I feel like the confidence is back there.
One thing, just going back to Aaron Roders, So I
enjoyed texting Aaron after the games and and just kind
of throwing my two cents in and congratulating him on
the game. And one of the things that in these

(07:02):
close games where you're you're second guessing are we where
are we at? What are we gonna do? Are we
gonna make this? Are we gonna turn this thing around?
He always texts me, never a doubt, And I get that,
and I go, man, I don't. It just impresses me
that his confidence and his demeanor in these games is

(07:23):
what we are here to win, and we are going
to win, and there's not a doubt in his mind
that he's going to do it. And and it's very impressive.
I think he's one of the top coordinators, UH with
with taking personnel and and making them really really turning
them into to who they can become, and making sure
that that we have the right guys in the right.

Speaker 1 (07:44):
Place called in order to be have the opportunity to
be successful.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
I've said there's two things about an A Rod coach
offense I'll add a third here. If you stay within
the architecture that that a ROD employees typically, you're gonna
be effective. You're gonna be efficient. If you go off
script a little bit too much, then then you're gonna
you're gonna be a rye. So you gotta be coachable

(08:10):
under a ROD system, and you got to comply a
little bit. And there are times where you can get
outside yourself. But more often than I think you saw
a little bit that like versus lower tier competition with
Zach Wilson, like he would he would do some things
that were not within the scheme, but he had elit
arm talent s and it was against lower level competition.

(08:30):
He could like he could throw a whole shot in
versus cover two to the pylon and it's good.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's like okay, like that's a good throw. But like
like versus.

Speaker 2 (08:41):
Better competition is not gonna have anyway. He also needs
a good run game coordinator to an accent his in
my opinion, his great passing starts to remember his his
his foundation is wide receiver, okay, and then he transit
that into quarterbacks coach. That is his chef's kiss to

(09:05):
our play calling. But he needs someone to be able
to balance him out a little bit in the run game,
coordinating with technique, and he had that with Grimy to
a degree. But remember he wasn't initially the primary play card.
He was the pass game coordinator, and then he became
the primary play caller in two thousand and nineteen, and

(09:26):
then you brought in Funk, and that was more of
an issue of budget, and so it was not beneficial.
He could either go with a really young kid with
no experience in game planning, but could maybe recruit well enough,
and Technique well you know, I mean dependent, right, And
so it had been a really young offensive line coaching

(09:48):
room and then he went with the old guy. He
may have missed there. But I also think that Tom
and Brian deserve a little bit of blame because they
you said, a budget limit, you know, let's say it
was one hundred and fifty to two hundred K, you're
not going to get a very good offensive line coach.
And I enjoyed Funk. I thought he brought some good things.

(10:10):
But he's a better analyst than he is sure offensive
line coach anyway, So I know that. And then if
you add a run game element to the quarterback, it's
game over because a Rod knows how to utilize He
is at his best when those three components are are

(10:31):
are ultimately a part of his.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
At what I think helped change Kevin gilbrid That helped
there was a dynamic. Now having played with both those
guys and knowing the background and the relationship that those
two had in college together, I knew as soon as
Kevin got here that it was going to open up
another dimension of a Rod because they were best friends

(10:58):
for that year that Kevin was here. Kevin followed. They
were just like Kevin, huge respect.

Speaker 1 (11:10):
There's a ton of respect there. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:12):
And and then you with with Kevin and Aaron together
the mutual respect for each other, but then the willingness
to listen.

Speaker 1 (11:20):
And I think that that is big for them. And
I was.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
Thinking about, you know, Norm Chow when we were coached
by Norm Chow. You know what Norm Chow was good
at was he could build an offense around the talent
and on his roster. If you had a Ronnie Jenkins,
he knew how to build around Ronnie. If you had
the quarterback, he could build around the quarterback. You know,
he had these slower white receivers but we could run

(11:46):
great routes and get open and timing was on point.
So he built an offense around that, and I think
what has the same characteristics of that, But I think
he brings a better mindset to the game as to
schematics making making when when when Aaron gets in a
role calling, you almost can feel it and see it

(12:08):
even as a fan of watching from the TV or
like play after play after both, like that set up,
that set up the next play, and it's really exciting
to see us he gets four or five six plays
into the drive, it's almost like there's no stopping him
at that point, you know. And when you have a
Bear Bachmeyer, he doesn't turn the ball over.

Speaker 1 (12:26):
You know.

Speaker 3 (12:27):
It's it's just an incredible combination of player and coach
and it's super excited.

Speaker 1 (12:32):
To see where it goes from here. Still, well, did
you hear you?

Speaker 2 (12:34):
Did you hear the response from Bear after the Utah game?
In the post game, I asked him Hate, could you
elaborate on your your relationship with Aaron Roderick? And I
think that was his longest answer he's ever given in
a in like in a question Q and a format
like he he he actually rolled on, and he typically

(12:55):
doesn't do that. He typically pretty quick, us very quick,
and he went on for a while. That may have
been like a forty five second answer for me. In fact,
it was one of the longer ones. And so like,
there's a tremendous he came to by you, guys. So
even if you're like, even if you're saying like I'm
not sold on a Rod, and I'm gonna give a
bunch of credit to bear Bachmeer, bear Bachmeyers the best.

(13:19):
Bear Bachmeyer's leading this offense. Bear Bachmeyer makes this offense
go screw the architecture, screw the culture, screw everything else,
screw the blocking. Bear Bachmeier just makes it happen. I'm like, Okay,
that's fine. If you want to be the hater, if
you want to be the undermine, you want to be
the substitute, you want to be that negative Nancy. And
I call you Nancy for a reason because you're a

(13:40):
female canine.

Speaker 1 (13:41):
That's what I'm calling you.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
And so you're a little female canine yapping at my heels, right,
And so.

Speaker 1 (13:49):
A Rod's the one that got him here.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
Yeah, A Rod's the one that was recruiting him since
eighth grade and Bear unfortunately.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Wanted to go to Stanford. Yeah, I get it.

Speaker 2 (13:59):
He's a smart kid from from a very good home
that would s taught discipline, military styles. His Thai mother
was also whipping him with a wooden spoon, and that
his brother was there. All those things right, like he
said it, I didn't anyway, so like, but A Rod's
the one that got him here once he entered the portal.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
A rod.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
So give a little bit more absolutely, you know, I
get a little bit more credible.

Speaker 3 (14:27):
I wish that the standard fan understood what it takes
to get a caliper of a player like a Bear
Bachmer here on campus or a Rider Lions. You know
that what it takes to get these guys to actually
come and play at BYU with offers all over the sec.
It is tremendous in and of itself. Just just there's

(14:50):
so many years that go into that. He said he's
been recruited with the eighth grade.

Speaker 2 (14:54):
Well, yeah, Bear came out to be a football camp
and since that day, like he was all over Bear,
Like it was very early that he wanted Bear and
he offered him and loved him. But like I said,
his brother was at Stanford and Hank. Hank had a
pretty good connection with b Yu, you know, having played

(15:15):
by you understood. But then three d QB he ended
up prepping for the NFL Draft with three DQB getting
to know John Beck, and so there was some connective tissue.
And then Bear trained with three DQB as well in
high school.

Speaker 3 (15:31):
Right well, and then you know, once these players sign,
it's still a relationship must have still been going on
even after that. Or a Rod built such a solid
relationship with him that as soon as he opened that
transfer window, was like, that was that's who we wanted
to talk to, you know, and or.

Speaker 1 (15:51):
Or or Aaron called him and he was willing to
take the call, you know.

Speaker 2 (15:57):
And then to your point, he got on campus, him
and Tiger got on campus, and then it was a
sealed deal.

Speaker 4 (16:02):
But you gotta get him on campus, you know, as
well as they're hanging out with Adam Sandler. I don't know,
I mean, come on, who doesn't want to hang out
with Adam Sandler? You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (16:13):
I don't know if Yeah was decent one of the better,
I guess sequels. Most of the sequels are money raps.
At least there was a lot of cameos in some
reflect at.

Speaker 3 (16:25):
Least if you understood happy Gilmore and you knew the
first one.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Yeah, it was entertaining enough, no doubt about it. Any
other takeaways from this b y U I was stay game.
But I do think the a rod epiphany for many
of the female canines that have been yapping. I think
they they're at least bought in now and they understand, Hey,
I need to have a little bit more respect for
the bespectacled strategist.

Speaker 1 (16:50):
That's a film junkie.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
He's an intro extro meaning he's an introvert by nature,
and until he really likes you and trusts you, then
you'll see the extroverted nature of him.

Speaker 1 (17:03):
But he you give him the choice.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
He's an introvert that just likes to go home and
spend time with the family and watch film.

Speaker 1 (17:10):
That's what he does. That's how he is. See.

Speaker 2 (17:11):
You know.

Speaker 3 (17:12):
On another take I had was with the other coordinator
in Jay Hill. You know that that first half we
got out played, we got out beat and you know,
and and Jay probably got out coached you for that
first half. But it was just you know, I thought
the second quarter j would come in and have some
of the changes made, and.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
It took it took a half, you know to really
get everything down then.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
But man, once the changes were implemented, that that we're
going to make a difference. It was almost night and
day between the first and second half. Super fun to
watch now, I you know, going into this bye week,
I think everyone says that everything couldn't be a better
time for a buye. Well ye, injury wise, everything about

(17:57):
this bye week is great. It's a great time in
the schedule to have it, you know, with Texas Tech
next week and you know.

Speaker 1 (18:04):
We will be there as we are making the trip.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
And uh yeah, it'd be a lot of fun making
it's just stop in Wacos, surf the way pool. Yeah,
got the gotta hit all the little spots. We're gonna
get some good barbecue, spend a night in sweet Water.

Speaker 1 (18:17):
I've never even been there, but uh, anyway, do you.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
Have to give a game ball to somebody then a coordinator?
Do you give it to a rod Do you give
it to j Hill for his second half efforts, or
do you give it to k Pop for coaching up
his special teams unit to finish plays and push guys
into punt if it was creating turtlevers on special teams
is an insane It's crazy that he saw that in

(18:44):
the film enough to where he was, guys, we might
be able to do this and then did it.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
So as a it was a game ball for a play,
get it for the play for the game. It's Aaron,
you know, it's when you lose your best running back
and really you're only running back that we've that's true,
you know, tried and tested, and then you're able to
still create as much offense as they did and turn

(19:16):
a passing I mean, is the best passing game that
we have seen this year. And watching Bear roll and
get you know, stepping into the pocket and moving around
his pocket presence and then as he rolled out and
just throwing balls perfectly.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Yeah, I mean, I was super impressed by it.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Keeping it within the twenty to thirty yard right, not
going too deep, but keeping it it's almost like not
almost like Ayrod knows what he has and knows where
he's confident and knows where he will get most of
his completions, and that's within in my opinion, the fifteen
to twenty five yards is where Bear is on point
really with his passing and he could be rolling and

(19:59):
throwing anyways. Exciting game and we're moving forward doing better
than most people expect.

Speaker 1 (20:06):
And I can't can't complain. You're really not going to
see like.

Speaker 2 (20:11):
Significant vertical passing game from Bar until probably next season
in my opinion, when he can really start to maximize
his lower half and generate more rotational torque off his
lower half. And I know people, the individuals that you
know want to fight against me on this.

Speaker 1 (20:26):
It is what it is like you you don't.

Speaker 2 (20:27):
Know ball and my guys, like he's just he's he's
an above average deep ball thrower.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
Like you don't have to be.

Speaker 3 (20:34):
You don't have to the best deep ball thrower to
be at bro an amazing quarterback.

Speaker 2 (20:38):
No, you don't like quite honestly, Like he's his short
to intermediate passing.

Speaker 1 (20:42):
Is like like pristine Bro. It is pristine Bro.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Even as layered throws like that throw to Parker Kingston
in the back of the end zone right before the
back line.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Guys, that is a touch.

Speaker 2 (20:56):
Throw, layered throw over a a a second that has
their heels at the goal line and they elevate and
jump it kind of floats. Look at the ball. The
nose is kind of up. And if you understand aerodynamics,
and look, I'm not an engineer. I'm not an aerodynamics
you know, physicists or anything like that.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
I stayed at a holiday in last night.

Speaker 2 (21:17):
When that the nose is kind of floating up, it
kind of floats a.

Speaker 1 (21:22):
Little bit, you know what I'm talking about. It doesn't
turn over, and it doesn't turn over.

Speaker 2 (21:27):
It kind of just continues to float and it stays
level a little bit, and it stays up away from
the hands, right, And so you don't always want the
nose flatlining. That's like a line drive, right. He doesn't
throw line drive throws. You'll see it kind of float.
And that's a more catchable ball for a white. It's
a more catchable ball from a defensive back.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Trust me. I know.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Well it's even in the ball through to Chase at
the Utah in the ear hole touchdown.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
That was a line drive. Was beautiful fit. It was
so not.

Speaker 3 (22:00):
There's so many of those coming. I think we're going
to see so much more of that moving forward. And
just excited for the team, Excited for the players, the
coaching staff, and I'm excited for the fans, and I
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It's been aw I've loved it.

Speaker 2 (25:01):
One thing that I've talked to a lot about over
the last five years in college football, as we've seen
the landscape change a little bit, this free market, capitalistic,
no guard rails system that we have in placed in
the unregulated regulated system. I said, look, the pendulum's going
to swing, and it's been aggressive, but there's gonna be
a lot of people saying this is bad for the sport.

(25:23):
Everyone's gonna leave, and no one wants this, YadA, YadA, YadA,
And I'm like, look and like it's gonna have to
swing back to homeostasis in mid center. But for the
time being, it's actually going to create parody in college
football because look, the NCAA and the power brokers of
college football have operated as an oligopoly as a college

(25:43):
football club ball for too long, and now we're seeing
what happens when everybody gets to play by the same
rules and isn't ultimately you know, cater to with the
rules and regulations. And so I really like the college
football product as is the parody. Want to get your
thoughts on everything that's a curd over the last five
years and what you think of the product now as

(26:05):
opposed to the past products.

Speaker 5 (26:09):
Well, I tell you, you know, beauty is always in
the eye of the beholder, and if you were one
of the teams that had a monopoly on college football,
then you're probably not liking what you're seeing across the
board because you're a monopoly and the ability to create
a monopoly I think in college football has really been
hit by this.

Speaker 6 (26:24):
But if you're basically.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
Are you calling out Nick Saban, right, I'm kidding.

Speaker 6 (26:29):
Look, I mean again, no, no, no, I mean he
was and power to him. Credit to him. You know,
he was able to do it.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
I think that's one of the reasons that he ended
up getting out. And we're kind of seeing that in
a lot. You're really seeing it in college basketball with
some of these coaches that have had monopolies for a
long time and it's kind of shifting there.

Speaker 6 (26:46):
But this has been And look, do I want.

Speaker 5 (26:49):
Regulations and rules and to be able to set precedent
and it be more organized, Yes, But I don't know
how you could argue with the product.

Speaker 6 (26:58):
Not only that, Look the viewership.

Speaker 5 (27:01):
You know, for all these people that were like, oh,
people are just gonna stop watching college football, well that's
nuts to think regardless, but viewership is actually somehow even
going up when you look across the country. So you know,
in those two aspects, in the aspect of popularity and
then the aspect of it being more fun to watch it.
I love not knowing the end of the movie while

(27:23):
I'm watching it for the first time.

Speaker 6 (27:25):
And it seemed like for so long, for so many years,
we're like, all right, well, there's this.

Speaker 5 (27:30):
One team or two team teams that have stacked so
much talent, they're way better than everybody else, and outside
of an act of God, nobody has a chance.

Speaker 6 (27:39):
I'm looking at it right now.

Speaker 5 (27:40):
I mean, we did our college football playoff rankings today.
We do them every Tuesday, and I'm looking across the
board and the representation and the matchups and not knowing
how it would work out.

Speaker 6 (27:53):
Is at an all time high.

Speaker 5 (27:54):
I have a feeling that the longer this goes on,
this playoff is gonna start looking more more a little
like March Madness, where really, legitimately anybody could beat anybody.

Speaker 6 (28:06):
On a given day, which makes it a lot more fun.
In my opinion.

Speaker 1 (28:09):
I love it.

Speaker 2 (28:10):
I want more of it, and it's it's been entertaining
from my perch. I love seeing SMU come back from
the dead after the death penalty for doing what everybody
else was doing in the eighties, right I love to
see that, and I love c BYU. Obviously there's a
you know, I have a horse in this race, like
I covered every single day, Like look, BYU has been
on the outskirts for so long, stiff armed by the

(28:33):
power brokers of college football, the Pac Twelve due to
in my mind, religious bigotry, stiff armed the BYU Cougars.
The Big twelve finally came calling because Texas and OU
went to the SEC and By's benefited from it. So
and they haven't made a colle football playoff yet, but
they may be knocking on the door of a college
football playoff this year.

Speaker 6 (28:53):
Well, well without a doubt.

Speaker 5 (28:54):
And I mean, look at BYU at least has some
really good tradition in the past. It's a brand that
we know that has had power at some point. But
look at Vandy, look at Indiana. I could make you
want to talk about like losing fifty pounds during the summer,
going into your junior year of high school and walking
in day one. Now the girls are looking at you twice.
It's just it's a new look in college football right now.

(29:16):
And I'll give you one better, I think, And look,
I know Memphis lost to UAB. It's an absolute race
right now in the group of five, But I think
there has never been a year where a group and
I'm including Cincinnati when never group of five making the
fourteen playoffs. There has never been a year where I
feel like the group of five team has a chance
to win a college football playoff game to the level
like I think we're gonna have this year.

Speaker 6 (29:37):
Seeing how it.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
Plays out, So it's gonna make for better watching. You're
gonna have different people involved in. The more different fan
bases that get excited about a certain sport, the better
that sport will be. Because it's not like Alabama fans
are gonna stop caring, you know. It's not like Georgia
fans are gonna stop caring, or Michigan fans or anybody
like that.

Speaker 6 (29:54):
So again, I think, all in all.

Speaker 5 (29:56):
It's gonna win for if you really love, wholesome love
the sport of college football. I think it's, against all odds,
been a win so far.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Jake, What topics have you guys been broaching specifically on
your show recently? What have you guys been delving into
And then I want to transition over to some big
dwell talk.

Speaker 5 (30:17):
Well, you know, obviously the coaching carousel that's going on
with all these big time jobs that are open at
the same time. That's something you always got a monitor,
especially when coaches are.

Speaker 6 (30:25):
Getting let go mid season. But it's really we've.

Speaker 5 (30:28):
Never had a year where we've had to cover as
many teams. And when you look at our power rankings,
when you put out we put out, when you look at.

Speaker 6 (30:37):
Our previews of these games, when you.

Speaker 5 (30:39):
Look at our college Football Playoff projection that we just
put out literally fifteen minutes ago, it has never been
this deep.

Speaker 6 (30:47):
So we're talking about.

Speaker 5 (30:48):
Everybody, whether it's BYU, whether it's Alabama, whether it's usc
whether it's it doesn't matter. There's so many teams that
are still in it right now. We're really being able
to evaluate teams for longer than we've had to in
the past, which is more work, but it's a lot
more fun. I mean, I worked in a steel mill.
I can tell you more worth talking about college football
is a whole heck of a lot better than that.

Speaker 2 (31:08):
Yeah, love that breakdown From a coaching carousel standpoint, I
don't know where you stand as far as the opinion
is concerned.

Speaker 1 (31:14):
On these firings, right.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
I mean, the fact that Penn State decided to move
away so rapidly after a CFP bid and win, and
you're a play away, a score away from going and
winning a national championship. Possibly even Brian Kelly to a
certain new yrek, we can all agree Brian Kelly's been

(31:37):
a very good college football coach over the last two decades.
It's not even it's not even a conversation. And like,
look like they have two games in which they lost
by one score. Yeah, they got demolished by Texas A
and M. But Texas AM is literally having their best season.
They're the most overrated team in college football over the
last thirty years in the EIGHTP pole era, and they're
finally having maybe their best team than their best season

(32:00):
in their history. And it's like, okay, Like sometimes you
just like the knee jerk reaction here is and I like,
I can give you my theory on this. I think
it it's because of the NIL era, maybe one of
the negative You have more power brokers, you have more
equity stakeholders that are paying for personnel, and then they

(32:21):
just are fanning and they don't know a ball and
they're like, we got to fire everybody and start all
over again if we want to win a National Championship.

Speaker 5 (32:28):
Yeah, well, look, I try and take a stance, uh,
individually for what's going on, because obviously programs are in
different spots, but when you look at LSU and Penn State,
there is some crossover. They're obviously really big brands. Uh,
They're not afraid to spend money hiring and firing. But
I think the overarching theme is good. Being really good

(32:50):
isn't good enough anymore. Uh, And I think NIL has
something to do it to your point, because you have
a lot more people that are now paying right, that
are that are relying on getting a return on their
investment for what they're giving these codes. It's not just
about the coaches contracts and the money anymore. It's now
about well, wait, we gave you fifteen million dollars for

(33:10):
this roster, and anm just pulled your pants down and
spanked you in front of everybody at Walmart like it's
and look, one game. This wasn't a one game thing
for James Franklin. It wasn't a one game thing for
Brian Kelly. I just think at some point, and you know,
and maybe I'm in the minority on this, kudo's to
Penn State and LSU for saying good isn't good enough.
And for Penn State, you know, they've been beating the

(33:33):
teams they were supposed to beat, couldn't really ever win
the big win or get over that hump, and then
you start losing to the teams you're supposed to beat.
So I can understand that move there. That Brian Kelly
one shocked me a little bit more, not just because
Brian Kelly hasn't been at LSU as long as James Franklin.

Speaker 6 (33:48):
Was, but this thing spiraled quickly.

Speaker 5 (33:51):
This wasn't you know, if Brian Kelly was gonna get fired,
ninety nine point nine percent of the people, including people
on the inside LSU, thought it would be after the season.
I mean, this thing just absolutely spiraled, and it felt
more knee jerk than the Penn State one, probably just
because James Franklin's been there for so long. I would rather,
at the end of the day, though, want the program

(34:11):
I root for to have so much pride that just
being good enough isn't good enough. So in a way,
I think it just goes to show you that with
the transfer portal now and with nil money being shoveled
in from everybody, because it's legal now.

Speaker 6 (34:26):
It has done nothing but add to the pressure.

Speaker 5 (34:28):
And you know what, I don't want to hear anybody
else complain about how unfair of an advantage coaches have
over players now when these guys are getting knocked down
left and right mid season who've won a lot of
games in the sports.

Speaker 6 (34:40):
So in that sense, I actually think it's a good thing.

Speaker 1 (34:43):
Is it.

Speaker 2 (34:43):
Is there enough coaching talent pool though, to go find
someone that's gonna do a truly better job. Knowing that
the free market, this is one of the most competitive.

Speaker 1 (34:55):
I'm in corporate America.

Speaker 2 (34:56):
I'm an entrepreneur, Like I see what private equity has done.
I've seen what these major corporations doing when they're competing
with bohemos.

Speaker 1 (35:05):
Which we're talking that's what we're talking about here.

Speaker 2 (35:07):
We're talking about the best of the best competing on
the highest playing field. Like I think this is more
NFL than people are realizing. There's gonna be three loss
teams in the college football playoff going forward.

Speaker 1 (35:23):
I think not just two loss.

Speaker 2 (35:24):
If you're gonna see some three lost teams maybe eventually
get into the college football Playoff. With how much cannibalism
is occurring, I just don't know if you can get
much better. You don't expect your team to be undefeated
or even one loss at the end of the season
if you're in the Big ten, SEC, Big twelve acc.

Speaker 6 (35:41):
Yeah, but yeah, and look, I agree with you. Obviously
you have more lives than you did in the past.

Speaker 5 (35:47):
But I think there's also a negative side on that
coin when you look and say, wait a minute, we're
paying you how much a year and you can't make
a twelve team playoff, Like you look at LSU and
look at at the ten talent that has been through
there that did not make the college football playoff. I
think in some ways now Penn State is different because
obviously Penn State's the playoff. They've had some success in

(36:08):
the playoff. That's why I don't think the circumstances are
exactly the same. But you look at Brian Kelly and
LSU and this is supposed to be the team nes
Meyer came back. You spent what eighteen million dollars on
the roster or something like that. When no, you go
and you beat Clemson on the road in the first
you know, win your first game for the first time
in six years, and it's a big one, then you're
gonna miss the college football playoff again. I actually think

(36:31):
the expansion in some ways has sped up the timeline
of coaches getting fired who don't make it.

Speaker 1 (36:38):
Yeah, you're probably right.

Speaker 2 (36:40):
I just don't know if it's wise for these especially
scared money.

Speaker 6 (36:46):
You know, you know, scared money don't make no money.
At the end of the day, it's who call it?

Speaker 1 (36:51):
Okay, why were they hiring? Then? All right, that's fine.

Speaker 2 (36:54):
You better have some you better have an expanded hiring
pool then, or you better be willing to take a
risk on a young, aspiring, talented, hard working, tenacious, Kelly Kenny,
Kelly Dillingham, you know type of thing, right like that,
that's the Dan. Are you gonna find the next Dan Lanning?

Speaker 1 (37:12):
Right?

Speaker 2 (37:12):
Because you ain't taking them from Oregon? You're probably you
may not take Dillingham from ASU like that. That's where
I'm getting at, Like who they hiring? Who are they
gonna go after? And don't say Nick, Yeah, well, don't
tell me Nick Saban's coming out of retirement or Urban
Myers coming out of retirement.

Speaker 1 (37:28):
I don't see it.

Speaker 6 (37:30):
Well, let's let's take those two guys off the board.
Then now I would call him.

Speaker 5 (37:33):
I mean, Nick Saban would have to get a cease
and desisorder sent to my house the amount of time
if I was the ad, the amount of times i'd
call him. But look, I don't think you fire a
coach with that big of a buyout to go bargain shopping.
I don't, And most ads, at least the smart ones,
have a plan before a move gets made. That's why again,
these mid season firings are kind of jarring with some

(37:55):
of these guys, because you're like, all right, well, if
you're gonna make that big of a decision, there has
to be a plan behind it that's already been in
the works for a couple weeks or something.

Speaker 6 (38:04):
Now. I don't know the answer to that. I would
assume that there is.

Speaker 5 (38:08):
But when you look at the names out there, and
I want to make sure, I think sometimes fans and
schools fall into the trap of, oh, well, we hired
a guy who coached in the group of five, so
we can't ever do that again.

Speaker 6 (38:21):
You need to go hire the best guy.

Speaker 5 (38:23):
I don't care if he's an NFL guy, if he's
a group of five guy, if he's a guy that's
already been at power for and had success or whatever.
You don't need to box yourself in. You need to
go hire the right guy because at the end of
the day, you want to know how crazy coaching is.
Les Miles won a national championship at LSU, ed Orgeron
won a national championship at LSU.

Speaker 6 (38:44):
One guy ate the grass, the other one smoked it.

Speaker 5 (38:46):
Yet Brian Kelly, who's won more games than just about anybody,
couldn't even sniff it there. So there's not like there's
a perfect formula or recipe, but the names. If I
was LSU, i'd obviously give Lane kiff and a call.
We'll see how that works out. The Fordage was open
to would he take it? I'm not one hundred percent sure.
I would definitely give a call to Eli Drinklewitz at Missouri.

(39:07):
I think he's worth giving a call to. But then
a guy like Joe Brady right who was there when
LSU was really really cooking, who's really I think, reinvented
himself in the NFL as you know, kind of a
guy that was very one dimensional in what he did.
He's really kind of opened up himself. And you know,
the coaching ranks even in the NFL, they're going younger
and younger. If you haven't realized that yet, that's where

(39:29):
it's going. So I again, there needs to be a plan.
I would be shocked if there wasn't a plan. But
these schools LSU and Florida and Penn State, I mean,
how do you not call Clark Lee right now? I
mean he's a guy that I mean if he can
do it at Vanderbilt. And then it's funny because I
hear Penn State fans that are like, well, well, you know,
James Franklin came from Vanderbilt, so we can't hire another

(39:51):
band guy.

Speaker 6 (39:51):
Man, that's not how this works.

Speaker 5 (39:53):
That's like saying, oh, I dated a blonde in high
school and we broke up. Now I'm in college, I'm
never dating another blonde. That's not how it works.

Speaker 1 (40:00):
Yeah, I'm wondering if you know.

Speaker 2 (40:02):
So let's let's take a transition over to BYU real quick, right,
Klonie Stucky's building a championship program in his tenth year.
I don't think there's any amount of money that would
take Kilanne away from BYU for a number of reasons.
I think he looks at what Kyle Whittingham ended up
building at Utah, and Kyle turned down a lot of
offers right to create a sustainable, sustainable culture, a foundational

(40:27):
one that allows you to at least compete for championships. Now,
did Utah ever get over the hump? Maybe not, But
he's made a good enough living. He doesn't need to,
you know, make more money necessarily, and he had a
little bit of what I would deem as balance in life.
And I think there are a lot of college football
coaches that would like maybe a little bit more balance
in life. They may get a little fatigue unless they

(40:49):
got the the you know, two three four year burnout
and then they get paid out right the burnout the payout,
which is fine and dandy too, But I'm wonder if
there's more coaches that are in this new competitive environment
and that like Ed Vanderbilt, for instance, is he gonna
stick it out because he's seeing finally that Vandy can
pay Like they have an alumni base that has plenty
of money. Right, they just have always operated within the rules,

(41:11):
it sounds like, right, they haven't been the ones willing
to cheat in order to win.

Speaker 1 (41:15):
And so I wonder if he sticks it out. A
lot of these.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Programs that have risen from the dust and their coaching staffs.
I wonder if they say, look, I have a little
bit of balanc here. Matt Campbell is a good, good example.
He's won at a high level, right, the modern day
type of Schneider you know at Kansas States, if you
will that state long term and Bill Culture Foundation, and

(41:39):
you're actually receiving a lot of gratitude from the fan
base rather than always trying.

Speaker 1 (41:44):
To fire you.

Speaker 5 (41:47):
Yeah, look, I think you know, obviously age has something
to do with it. You look at a guy as
young as Clark Lee, I mean, it was his goal
getting into coaching to end up coaching at Vandy for
twenty years or does he want to see what he
can do when he goes to a powerhouse that already
has all that stuff built in, it's not having to

(42:07):
go through that process. It's a little bit different with
a guy like Lane Kiffin, who is still relatively young
in coaching. But Lane's already had all these huge jobs
he's been on that I mean he look, he was
the head coach of the Raiders, he was like thirteen,
and then he goes to Tennessee and then he goes
to USC and then he finds a perfect home and
old miss. So he's been out there and been a
part of those big brands, and he's kind of changed

(42:29):
his personality a little bit as far as it comes
to off the field, and he may like that fit better.
So I think, you know, you look at a guy
like Colonie Sataki, for example. I'm not saying Colonie's old,
but he has built a reputation as BYU's head coach.
They've had success there. It's not a guy that's going
to get fired after one terrible year, and you know
he's going to be looked at a guy that really

(42:50):
resurrected it. And you're playing at a really high level.
And look, a couple of years ago, I came out
and said Utah is the most underrated football state in
the country.

Speaker 6 (42:56):
And it's sure as looking like that. I don't know
what wea were states doing right now, but I'm looking
at Utah and BYU.

Speaker 5 (43:02):
That are that are both cooking, and it's it's like
they it's like y'all out there love football a ton,
but not enough to whar you're as nuts as some
of the people that I grew up around here in
the South like there is a good balance to where
you're gonna have support even when it's going bad. But
you give those people, you give them some success and

(43:23):
they're gonna love you for life. And that's why kind
of resurrecting BYU to what they are now has been
such a big deal. And that's why I think Colonie
Sataki should be the coach of the Year this year
so far when you look at what happened at quarterback
and then being able to basically, you know, put a
guy wearing forty seven at quarterback and it still works.
It's it's just hilarious to me. And you know, again,
the staff obviously really likes each other.

Speaker 6 (43:45):
They get along well. And I'm just so happy for
Klana because he's he does it the right way and
BYU does it the right way. And it's good to
see good things happen to good people.

Speaker 1 (43:55):
Who do you expect to be in Arlington in the
Big twelve championship game?

Speaker 6 (43:59):
And why, God, look this one. You I knew it
was gonna be fun to keep up with the Big
Twelve this year.

Speaker 5 (44:06):
You know, at this point looking at the rest of
the schedule, and I'll be honest with you, you know,
I think some BYU fans will agree with me. I
wasn't sold on BYU until the last couple of weeks.
And again, I know, the schedule feels like it gets
progressively harder. You got to go to Texas Tech, this, that,
and the other. But at some point we're going into
week eleven, right there's no surprises anymore, Like nobody's sneaking

(44:27):
around for eleven weeks and all of a sudden they're
fraudulent or they're they're just really really good.

Speaker 6 (44:33):
But yeah, and again, you don't until you do, and
now you have, and.

Speaker 5 (44:39):
We've seen the result at home and on the road
and finding different ways to win.

Speaker 6 (44:43):
To me, right now, I would say I would probably
lean towards BYU.

Speaker 5 (44:50):
And Cincinnati are Texas Tech, and since Cincinnati is another
team that I don't think Saderfield's getting talked about enough
and don't forget they and I know if it's the nuts,
we're if some butts for candy and nuts, we'd all
have a merry Christmas. But they really gave that opening
game to Nebraska. Cincinnati should really be eight to.

Speaker 6 (45:07):
No right now, so it's gonna be fun, you know. Utah,
I know still in it.

Speaker 5 (45:12):
I'm as excited to watch the rest of this Big
Twelve season as any other conference out there.

Speaker 6 (45:16):
But I will say this, I do think the Big
Twelve only gets one team.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
In you son of a motherless go you scumsuck, you sucking.

Speaker 6 (45:23):
I know. Well, well here's the thing, Big twelve fans.

Speaker 5 (45:27):
You need to be rooting against Virginia you need to
be rooting against Georgia Tech. You need the ACC to
get one, or be rooting against Notre Dame to get
that third loss, because right now, just doing the math,
it really feels like the Big Twelve is only going
to get one.

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