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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time to celebrate the previous team sport known to man,
where modern day gladiators collide for all the glory on
the grid. Ie, Let's talk some college football on Cougar
Sports with Ben Krittle.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
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Speaker 3 (00:37):
Today it is stoport.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
Little college football segment going to welcome to college football
inside from a college football coach. He's training up the
future of college football players down in Arizona now, and
we're gonna get into his mind. He's been a part
of the robbery, He's been a part of recruiting battles.
He's been a part of both Utah and BYU football programs.
He knows a thing or two about ball, and we're
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out to the hotlight. Welcome in the legendary coach. We
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got coach Guy Holiday on the line.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
What's up, Guy? How are you, hey, Ben? How are
you guys doing. I'm doing great.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's football season. Basketball season is about to tip off.
We're gonna get into recruiting seasons. Well here shortly with
all the flips that will be occurring. Always something cooking
twenty four to seven, three sixty five in the college
football world. Do you miss a little bit of it?
And what don't you miss about it?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Well? Yeah, of course I think you always going to
miss it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I miss my players, I miss the game days, I
miss recruiting. I don't know that I would miss recruiting now, Yeah,
because it's it's just different.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
It's not about building relationships.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Of course, that's always part of it, but money now
plays such a big part, and and and there are
so many different factors playing players wanting to play now.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
In those days, I.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Can't say I missed Sunday night late light meetings and
Monday night late.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Like late night meetings.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Uh. It eased up a little bit on Tuesday Wednesdays,
but that would be the only things I don't miss.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Hey, there's uh, there's pros and cons to the game.
And I know you're enjoying the uh retirement from college
football and your endeavor into entrepreneurship. Give us an update
on what you got cooking down there in ag at Oyd.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Uh, we're on your dream sports academy. We're doing we're breaking,
we're overbreaking even now. So we're training athletes. We have
several NFL players, Isaiah Stalberg from the Saints and a
few others. I just mentioned him because he is left
on his off week, and so we get quite a
few guys, and we have several top notch basketball.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Players that come in.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Going to keep that quiet, but we do anywhere from
seven year olds up to professional athletes. So it's been
fun and it's always fun to watch people grow and
that's where I've always gotten my satisfaction.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
From the development, right, buying into the human and developing
and maximizing their potential. That's what coaching's truly all about.
And you know, the new era of college football is
a little bit different. You look at the why of
why you got into college football, and things have.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Changed a little a little bit for some coaches.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right now it's about the filthy Luca or the ninety dollars,
but also the transactionality of it. You see coach Franklin,
who I think is a builder of men who got
into coaching for the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He was just in the CFP.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Last year and because he lost three close games, right,
he get fired and Brian Kelly gets fired, one of
the best coaches in the modern era. You look at
all these coaches being let go and maybe some of
them are justified, some of them I don't think are justified.
But the transactionality of it all, it's limiting the transformationality
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of what it should be.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, it's it's kind of like being on cruise ships now, right,
You watch one pass you see another one passes, it's
you know, two ships.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Passing in the night.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
As they say, I mean, that's that's common.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Now, it's so much different.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
When I got into coaching, I got in and people
know me, know, coming from a single parent background and
and father died in Vietnam. I got in it because
my coaches were father figures to me and they laid
down accountability, responsibility, how to grow as a person, how
to be a man, and helping me through things that
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my mother just couldn't couldn't help me understand how to
become a man. Nowadays, it's let's be honest, it's all
about win now. James Franklin, you you know, it is
what it is. He didn't win a championship. People want
to win national championship. See, you know in fourteen years
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is a long run. Brian Kelly, You know people always
say that just wasn't a good fit. Well, a good
fit is anybody who wins. And when you're going to
LSU if you don't win a national championship in four years, you're.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Going to be out.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And that's just you know, when you take a job
like that, it is what it is, and you know
it's hard for me to say, Oh, I feel bad
for a staff. I can't feel bad for anybody that's
going to take home fifty four million dollars.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Sure, I mean that's at.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Sixty four years old, fifty four million dollars richer. He
just he and his family generational wealth. So kudos to
him for that. But as a coach, you always want
to be winning. I mean, that's the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Do you think.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Do you think these coaches Coach Kelly, coach Frank Klint,
some of these high level coaches, do you think they
get back into coaching despite you know, the big time pals,
because I think their contracts state that if they do
take a job in TV or another job, there is
a I don't know, some sort of mitigation clause that
the universities don't have to pay out the amount that
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was guaranteed to them if they get another job.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I think it's all about the right job.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
You know, when you've had LSU and you've been at
Notre Dame, what jobs are better than those? And so
for Brian Kelly at sixty four, he'll get the itch
just like me. I mean, I'm sixty now not there
are times I want to go back and you do
miss it, and he's going to have that itch because
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you've been around in your whole life. James Franklin, There's
no doubt James Franklin will coach again. I know James,
and you know he was a perfect fit at penn State.
He was from Pennsylvania and went to college at a
Division two school in Pennsylvania. So I know I can
say with any doubt in my mind, James Franklin will
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be coaching again. There's no doubt in my mind, and
he'll be a head coach. With the number of jobs
that's open, and you look at a guy at average,
I think ten wins a season, there's a lot of
teams that would take that Guy Holiday.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Coach Guy Holiday, former coach at BYU and Utah talking
some college football with this year on your Utah ESPN
Radio network. What did you make of the robbery game
this year? What do you make of the rivaly game
in its present state? Both teams in a conference now
and BYU's won three in a row.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
How did that happen?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Wow, that's a that's a great question. I think it
it's hard for me to say twenty twenty one. You
know that was that was a little bit different. The
last two years, BYU has earned to win. They they've
and I'm not saying they didn't earn it in twenty
twenty one. I don't want to leave that on, but
there was several injuries that occurred and we all know
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the track record of that. These last two years watching BYU,
they just believe. I mean, I think I tweeted out,
you know you can at some point you got to
say they're not lucky.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
They just believe they can win.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
And that comes across to me when you watch them
on a game and you watch that sideline. I am
a big person who watches body language. I watch relationships,
player relationships, and.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
If you look at the sideline, the sideline will tell
you a lot that you want to know.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I've never seen BYU look like we can't win this game.
They believe they can win every game and that that
is a culture that has been built in that program
and they've done a great job. And watch a true
freshman perform as Baar did, and I think a couple
of weeks ago I talked about he's not a great
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thrower yet, but hell, he proved he can. He can
beat you with your arm. He can beat you with
your with his feet. But what comes across about him
on the field and watching the huddle, those players respond
to him. I don't know him personally, but I'm fairly
confident he has a dynamic leadership personality quality about him.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, it's it's intriguing to see what's going on here.
And and I was pulling stats right when when b
why you got the win. I was like, I wonder
what the record is BYU versus Utah when they're in
the same conference in the modern era, and b YU
and Utah when they were in the Mountain West Conference
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era to together went once Kyle Whittingham got the head
coaching job from five to twenty ten, it was three
and three. And now that they're in the same conference,
you know, based two to zero in the Big twelve.
So right now it's it's five and three versus us
when they're the same conference. And I wonder if when
there is an equivalent footing of resources conference equivalency, you know,
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recruiting equivalency to a degree, it kind of maybe flips
the script a little bit of this rivalry game.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, I think if you look at it that way,
you can surely make a case for it. I think
going in the game statistically, if you look at the
two teams statistically, and you buy into the that Vegas
knows something that we don't know. I think many expected
Utah to win that game, and I think a lot
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hens on And I said this when I was at Utah.
The one thing I wouldn't say to one thing because
I learned so many things from Wit, but special teams
was always emphasized, heavily emphasized from from Tom who plays
who who was a punter for us too. It's so
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many examples, all of our place kickers. But I always
go back to Mitch Wiznowski and nothing against the kickers previously,
but Mitch Wiznowski and Matt Gay, they that was two
of the best combinations I've seen.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
And I think since then.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I know they had the transfer kicker come in from Colorado, but.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Since then the st game hasn't been as immaculate as
it was at.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
The University of Utah, and it cost him that game.
I mean, you know, people, of course, with Wi's going
to defend his staff. That's one thing about with man,
you will You're going to get some shots behind the scenes,
He's going to tell it like it is to you.
But I think his reluctance not to kick field goals
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says a lot. And the analytics, I'm sure fourth and one,
you gotta go for it, the fourth and three, fourth
and seven.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I think that came down to as much.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
About how he felt about his kicking situation, whether it
was doing warm ups, whether it was from existing games.
I don't think Witt felt solid about that and that
that played the part. And I think if you go
back and into that nine game run and the special teams,
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that b Yu wasn't quite up the par with Utah.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
You know, K Pop did a great job.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But now I think with K Pop and J Hill
together because people don't realize J Hill was a st
gurer and so bringing those two together is that's powerful.
And I don't think you see a weakness and the execution.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Let's take talent.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
We can go back and forth, Oh we got more
talent here, we got more That's always debatable.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
But at the end of the day, the execution.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Of BYU right now is a lot better in the
st department than it has been in the past. And
I think that was as big of a contributor to
that game as anything else. I mean, you had to
turn over on the punt return by Utah. You had
to didn't come up and kick the extra or kick
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the field goals. And that is a we're talking about
four plays created much more than a three point swing
in that game.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, crazy times, no doubt about it. In this robbery game.
And I do believe you're right. Special teams. One of
the key stats that I was looking at leading up
to kickoff in this most recent robbery game was that
Utah special tas unit was like forty fifth, forty fourth
in the country at that time from an efficiency standpoint.
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That's punt cover, kick cover, punt return, kick return, fuel goal,
you know, kicking, et cetera. And BYU was sixth in
the country. I mean, that's just stark difference. And that's
the difference between winning and losing a game.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
There's no question, and it is an emphasis that a
lot of coaches missed or miss I should say, and
and I don't know, I'm not at the University of Utah,
but I can guarantee you after that game the pressure
was felt. I promise you that, and I think you
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will see improvement down the stretch and on that end,
but right now by us execution all around, I think
they're executing at such a high level and the quarterback
is not turning the ball. I think Jake the last
couple of years was subject to turning the ball over
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at critical times, even though he made his fair share
of big plays. You don't see the turnovers from Bear,
which they are playing such really good, complimentary football. They
run the ball well, they played great run defense, and
they get turnovers. And anytime you do that, you're gonna
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be in football games. And then the key component that
comes in is down the stretch. Who believes they can
win DYU believes they can win football games down the stretch.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
You see it over and over again.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
You saw it against Utah, you saw it against Iowa State.
There was a previous game earlier this year that they
were down. I can't recall. They came back and won.
So to me, that means the players are bought in.
The players are taking ownership, and they're saying, put the
ball in our hands, coach, we're gonna win the game.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I love that breakdown.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We got Guy Holliday here on ESPN the Fan talking
some college football.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Rivalry Holy War football.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
One individual who has received a significant amount of criticism,
as all offensive coordinators do at BYU. You saw it
with Robert and I when you were at BYU, and
I think Robert and I produced some of the best
offenses in BYU football history. He set records with these guys,
Harvey Ungo, Curtis Brown, both rushing record centers. Jamal Williams
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ended up being a rushing record center. Austin Colley, Dennis Pitta,
Max Hall, John Beck. Go down the list of like
the yards and the points, and you know you can criticize,
you know, for like in big games going against big
time opponents. Maybe the play calling wasn't as creative as
bau fans wanted to be, but the productivity stands the
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test of time. A Rod, I think is producing at
a high level and definitely has improved over the years.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But I think he's always been I call him.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
This spectacled booth strategist, film junkie, and now the fans
are finally giving him his flowers. Give me your thoughts
on the trajectory of a Rod, the unfair criticism, and
where he currently stands.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well, I think, first of all, let's go back to
Utah where him and I work together, and I've known
I knew a Rod prior to even working with him.
I think when you work, the thing about coach, with
his personality and his demeanor is so demanding that you
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catch yourself trying to please with more so and you
sometimes don't listen when he says, do what you have to.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Do to win the game.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But in your mind, you know, when you're on the
headsets or some other things, you can become intimidated or.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
You can say that you know, maybe.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
This is how I think he feels versus and so
I think that it's stifled a Rod. I think my
first year with a Rod we were productive, tim Patrick
were productive.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
I believe we won nine to ten games that year, and.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I thought he was really good. I thought he was
really good taking the pieces that he had and trying
to get the right people of football and still trying
to play complimentary football because you don't want to put
your defense in situations where they will ultimately fail. You
don't want to have interceptions on the minus thirty five
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yard line and the offense gets the ball on the
plus twenty because they returned to pick fifteen yards.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I think.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Being in oc particularly at DYU. That's got to be
the hardest job in the freaking world. And it's because
we're talking about we're talking about legends, legends. Lavelle Edwards
is a legend, an offensive legend, Norm Child offensive legend.
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I mean, Brian Billock worked there, Mike Holmger, I mean,
just keep going. Andy Reid, oh my god, I mean,
just give it some thought like so that the.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
I don't even I.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Mean, just the goal to reach the plateau that you're
trying to achieve its Hall of Fame status. Okay, And
then every BYU fan, as every Rabbit fan base, has
an opinion. He doesn't throw the ball to the tight
end enough. You won the game, Well, the tight end
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needs to get the ball more. But you won the game, well,
he needs to throw the ball to Chase Roberts more.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Guys, you won the game.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
At the end of the day, does it matter if
you won the freaking game? And that's what I think
gets lost And so I love, like some of the
most fascinating things is listening to educated fan base because
BYU has an educated fan base, and so it's intriguing
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how many great offensive coordinators are sitting out there who
doesn't look at.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Film day in and day out, and.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
We'll complain because we aren't running full back.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Guy, why aren't we using the fullback one? Well, we
don't have one. Well why is he running the speed
sweep so much?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well, guys, on film, that's what they saw that worked.
It's easy to sit back. Well, don'get throw the ball
to the tight end. We got this transfer from Utah.
He's an NFL guy. He needs to touch the ball. No, guys,
the whole objective is when the freaking game get to
the college football playoffs, win the Big twelve.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
That's what matters to me.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
But man, to watch this guy take quarterback after quarterback
after quarterback and be successful is I think is commendable.
And I won't even get into the Utah situation as
far as the players there, but let's talk about BYU. Okay,
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you had a first round pick, all right, Zach Wilson,
first round.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Pick, second pick of the draft. Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Oh, then you go and you got Jaron Hall. Oh
well he gets drafted.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Okay, Well, then you get Ratlift and or I'm sorry
if I pronounced the name.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
You take this Reslas, I'm sorry you take him and
you take a kid.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Who was virtually unrecruited, and you win ten games with him.
Guys with noticed send a trend here. So now you
take a kid who walked fresh off of high school
campus and you are eight and old with this kid
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ain't and freaking oh. You got to give credit where
credit is due. You gotta give credit where creditors due.
And I give all the credit to a Rod the
offensive staff. I love what Fessi is doing. He's got
those kids believing they can make plays. They don't have
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to be the fastest, they don't have to be their
well coached. I watched the route running. The route running
is good. They know how to separate. Chase Roberts is
doing an outstanding job. Kingston played his butt off this
last game. The contested catch he made for the touchdown
and the quarterbacks getting protection. Not to mention, you got
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a freaking human bulldozer back. They're playing quarterback that's hurtling
people to running over over people at two hundred and
twenty five pounds. I've read so many statistics on how
big he is. I don't even know how big the
kid is. I mean, i've heard six two to two
twenty five six foot two thirty five.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean, we got it a fut No, he gave
it to his official leagus. I should have I to
have texted you.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
He told us he's two thirty five six thirty five two.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Six two to two thirty five quarterback that you're using
in the quarterback run game. So we're fitting all these
pieces in and I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I apologize to
the Cougar fan base. Not every player can touch the
ball as much as you like. Your job is to
win the game, and that's what a Rod is doing,
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and he's playing complimenting with football.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
The defense is always in good situations.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
They aren't starting on the plus twelve thirteen yard line.
They're freaking protecting the ball. They're running the football. Well,
oh and take away to run last week, Well, we'll
just throw it. We'll just throw it. And I'm gonna
show you I can be a passer. I'm going to
prove to you I'm gonna be able to open up
that playbook just a little bit more and I'm gonna
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be a passer. I'm a true freshman, guys, I am
a true freshman. And I will say that is the
best freshman quarterback in the country based on performance.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I could give a flip about.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Star ratings, who recruited who that kid is the best
freshman quarterback in the country right now?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yep, you know what's funny, And you'm.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Got to give the coach some credit.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Well that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Like, soho, anybody that is still hating on no, I'm
and I start to interject, because anybody that's hating on
a Rod still even after this year, their rhetoric turns to, well,
it's only because Bear Bachmeier is his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I'm like, female K nine bro.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
The reason why he's at BYU is because a Rod
recruited him, Like he's here because of a Ron.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Right, well, let's let's get this straight. The only reason
Andy Reid is Andy Reid is because of Patrick Mahomes.
Come on, guys, give me.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
A break, Give me a break, Give me a break.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Give me a break. Got players play coaches? Coach?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Sorry, no, no, it's a it's a you know, preach.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Last thing before we let you go, guys, tell us
a little bit about o Yd for any way that's
listening down in the Valley of the Shun.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
How can they come in and train with you guys.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Now, just look us up on the web. O ye
D Sports h O y D Sports Academy and you can.
You can find us when you'll pull us right up.
We have a great baseball academy. I got three former
pro baseball players that run it. We have any sport
you want. You want your kid to get faster, send
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them in. We got a speed coach and that's all
he does. So you get him in. We'll get it fixed.
And don't let your child. If you can provide the
training and you want them to excel at the best
possible ability that his athletic ability allows, bring them on
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in and you.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
Can find us.
Speaker 4 (26:13):
Forty nine sixty West Railroad, Chandler, Arizona and Ben. I'm
waiting for you to get your butt down here so
we can get on the golf for bro.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You know I got two kids now, I'm working two jobs.
You know you know I don't I don't vacate.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
No, I'm not gonna let you say that you've taken
the most vacations this year, and that's been true.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
To hold it down.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
That's true, you take vacation this year, But I don't
determine where we all go on Maca, sure you don't
determine that I do not determine that I am led
by the leader of our home.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Better three forces.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I was like to say, Brook, Brooke says where we go?
So I just have to convince her, like, Hey, I
think I need to go down to Arizona just to
be with my people, you know what I mean. So
I'll see if I can get down the guy. We
love and appreciate you here. Thanks so much for hopping on.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Hey, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And Jordan had his first baby, so he's learning like
you learning.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
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Speaker 5 (29:24):
Buddy good Man?
Speaker 7 (29:27):
What's up, dude?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
How are you living the dream?
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Man?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Appreciate you hopping on? How was the honeymoon? How was
the honeymoon?
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Uh? If fun wasn't illegal, I'd be in prison right now.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Boom shock a lock. I'm glad you had a fantastic
time in Hawaii. It look it all And getting back
into the real world now what a tough transition.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
I know, both feet are on the ground now again.
But it was great. It is absolute bliss.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Love it, man, Love that you got to experience that
and have fun with it. You're and we need to
tap into your mind a little bit regarding to be
with football Bear Backmeyer Bear force one. Some are calling him,
some are calling him the bear tar. Some people are
calling him, Uh you know, air Bear. What's the nickname
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of choice for you for Bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Dude, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
I'm just calling I just call him big Bear.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
I mean, the man is.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Just doing it, you know, And uh yeah, it's it's
fun to watch. It's fun to see. Obviously, everybody's on
a high from the last I would say obviously the
last two weeks and you know, in the grand scheme
of things, the entire season. But yeah, certainly he's a catalyst,
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and certainly he's he's cleared up a lot of questions
that I think a lot of us had not, not
just as former players. Maybe you know, I may know
a little bit more about this position than most people,
but like generally speaking, the coolest thing for me to see.
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And yeah, it's taken quite some time, but you know,
eight and no the last two years, first time in
school history to go eight and no the in two
consecutive years. But I think this year, obviously, the difference
between this year and last year is last year we
go up on the hill, we win, and then drop
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the next two. So you talk about a trap game,
that trap game should have been, and I think it
was for the first half. We still had a hangover
on the first half of a couple of days ago.
And I because you know it's Robberie, we we you know,
put our I think we probably put all our eggs
in one basket last year, dude. We kept some eggs
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out of the basket this year. And I think that's
the difference and the difference would be yes, athletically, yes, talent.
I think we're better, like y'all have talked about on air,
But I think there's a lot of coaching that that
is going on here that we don't see that's making
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I think the biggest difference. Yes, Big Bears there and
whatever you want to call him, and and he's you know,
answering a lot of questions I think we all had.
But to me, it's been really the coaching staff where
K Pop special teams, Jay Hill another year under his
belt and getting over the hump of I think the
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biggest win so far was last Saturday. It wasn't against Utah,
it was how do you respond to robbery and winning
a game against them? All emotions we're at home where
yeah we're not favorabe gosh, thang it, we have the
pressure they don't, Yeah, right, And to come out on top,
uh and then to follow that up and to dr
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to fly half across the United States and beat a
really good Iowa State team and and they're always gonna
be good. They're gonna they're gonna put up seven or
eight wins every single year. Maybe they're gonna get to
a double digit once every three forty. But that's Campbell's
done a really really good job and he's always you know,
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the next hottest thing that when you know head coaching job,
get come up that that dude is usually that's his name, Kimpbell,
that that's one of the guys that they throw out there.
And so I think the biggest win has been Saturday,
and after we took a cold shower at halftime because
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I think we still had to hangover the first half
both offensively and defensively, we took the coach hower and
I think you really saw what good coaching does and
allows by U football program led by Kalani. As a result,
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you know, now we're ranked tenth in the nation and
we didn't lose the next game after beating Arrival previous week.
And so, man, I haven't been more excited about BAU
football until it wasn't ten days ago, it was the
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aftermath of three days ago.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Well, you bring up a really hot take, and we
asked Congranation earlier today in our one of our our
our questions of the day, how would you rank the
best and worst wins of the season for BYU And
it sounds like you're taking the Iowash State game over Utah.
Would you put Utah's the second best win of the season.
Then you got Arizona double overtime thirty three twenty seven,
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you have Colorado on the road twenty four to twenty one.
You have West Virginia thirty eight thirty or thirty eight
twenty four, East Stamford twenty seventh or three East Carolina
thirty four to thirteen, and then Portland State sixty nine
to zero.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
I'd probably do so I took the robbery out. I'd
go Arizona and Utah three wyldo Arizona two, just because
because whinny, I'm telling you like winning on the road.
Something happens, well, yes, because something happens in Provo. That's
that's quite to me. Yes, I'm a homer. Whatever I
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play there, whatever crap. I think the same thing happens
in Rice Ecels on Saturday night two. It just so happens.
This was in Provo. Now, we did beat them in
Saturday night in Rice Decels in twenty twenty four, so
I guess maybe that blows up out of the water.
But something happens in Provo on Saturday nights typically in
the fall and to the detriment of the opposing team.
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So to me, man, you talk about a home field advantage,
there is a home field advantage there. Absolutely. I don't know.
I think I sat down for in between the first
and second quarter and half of them and in between
the third and fourth that was it. I stood up
the rest of the game, you know, because it's it's Utah. Like,
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you're not sitting down unless you know there's a change
of possession and you got to wait five minutes for
a commercial break for the game to come back. And
so yeah, I would put because of because of everything
that they these gets invested into Utah and leaving eggs
(36:54):
out of the basket. Absolutely, I think Iowa State it
shows the maturity of everybody in that program and including
you know, the coaching staff and everybody and their support staff.
Is that, Okay, this is not the end all be all.
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We can't just we can't exhale, right, We've inhaled for
eight games or at that point six games to game eight.
We can't exhale because Iowa States good, They're on the
road their conference foe, and we're looking this is not
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about Yeah, it's a big, big twelve championship. That's you know,
it's our goal. But now we're we're talking about being
nationally ranked, getting in the playoffs. So it's not good
enough to just beat our rival. It's not even right now,
it's not good enough to beat I will state, it's
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not good enough to be undefeated after eight games where
you can't go anywhere. I understand that. But it's axel
a little bit because obviously we have a bye week
and it's it's good probably a great, great timing for
us to uh to have this break right now. But yeah,
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it's it's it's a great time to be a Cougar
fan because we're we're in good hands, no.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Doubt about it. Uh good hands in coaching. Good hands is.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
A Cougar play caller.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Bear Bachmeyer, you stated prior to the season, okay, that
you went down there. You got aes on Bear Bachmeyer,
the Bear, tar Bear, Force, one air Bear, big bear,
whatever we want to call him. And you said, you
came onto our show and you're like, look, he reminds
me of a better throwing Tim Tebow, and you took.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
A lot of heat.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Steve People declared that this former All American high school
football player college football player that late at Texas, late
at BYU had some injury issues. Yes, then coach high
school football for years that he did not know ball.
And I think you're being vindicated. I think you're being
validated now that you are a ball noer.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
Well, I mean I appreciate that, but yeah, I mean
that's it was. It wasn't a snap judgment. It was
based on a lot of experience in watching different quarterbacks
throughout the years, maybe emulate some myself personally growing up.
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But yeah, that's what I saw. That's who you're reminded
me of at the time, and still does and probably
throughout his collegiate career, will continue to do so. Now
is he trophy winner? And no, that's not what I
was talking about. I was talking about the style of
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play in which they both performed and have been very
successful doing so. Yeah, Tim Teeber went on and he's
he's known for a lot of different things now, namely
his faith. And that's not bad either then, you know,
comparing to someone who who really is adamant about his
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faith as well and talks about it quite frequently even
when he was at Florida, but on the field in
between the lines. Absolutely, I think he throws a little
bit better ball than Tvo does. Style of player very
very similar, if not the same, as far as the
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running ability. I don't know in the locker room what
he's like, if he's that type of leader you know
in the locker rooms as Tim was, obviously he was
quite vocal. I don't know if bears like that. I
don't know the kids from Adam, but I do know
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what I see with my own eyes, both in practice
and on the TV or in person at Lavell Edward
Stadium is absolutely one hundred percent. He's a better throwing
Tim Tebow. And that's my story and I'll stick to it.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Love it, Steve Clevitz.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
We also asked the question, you know, I know you
watch college football, like what is the true ranking of
this BYU football team? Like we look at the polls,
we look at the analytics. I'll give you you know
where BYU ranks in some of these polls and analytics. Right,
so ap Poles obviously number ten the coaches polls at nine.
Massy rating, which is an analytic that I like, It's
(41:50):
at eight. ESPN FPI is sixteenth, FEI is eighteenth. Sp
plus is more of an efficiency rating that's nineteenth in
the country, and then Sagarin is another efficiency that trick
and they're at twenty fourth. Like, how good is this
blea football team? What do you think the ceiling is
at floor is for this team this year? From like
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maybe a final ranking standpoint.
Speaker 7 (42:16):
I think right now, writer, I think eight, maybe seven,
but I would I'd lean to more eight right now
as a true ranking in my opinion, I think a
ceiling would be I don't know if Ronnie said it
or somebody said it earlier, but I like the six thirteen.
(42:40):
I like the ceiling at six and the floor at
more like a thirteen. And again I really do think.
I'm man, I'm telling you three days ago was big,
at least for me just because having played before and
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really coached. Yeah, it was just a high school level,
but man, to you know, you've been in rivalry games,
you played against them, and coach gets them, and the
ability for these guys, I would say not to exl
and go, Okay, yeah we beat our rival at home
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and that's a heck of a win, and Cougar Nations
is going nuts and it was a big deal. Okay,
guess what we still got another game, and we got
to go travel across the US to play a really good,
traditionally good Iowa State team, and we saw that, Yeah,
we're probably on a little bit more of a hangover
(43:46):
through that first half, and then it clicked, and then
the coaching clicked. And whether you believe in halftime adjustments,
I don't know. I think a lot of times that
can be overdone. But uh, because offensively, I think halftime
adjustments really are just running the plays in the second
(44:09):
half the running the first half, but then you have
to actually do that right. And so a Rod is
becoming or has been, in my opinion, has become one
of the better offensive coordinators because of I think really
(44:30):
just this year and Klonie as a head coach as well.
You go, you start out with Portland State, and the
mark of a good team is beating beating people you're
supposed to beat, and in that case, beating them like
a drum like we were supposed to but then beating
your rival. And I keep going back to this, I'm sorry,
(44:53):
but it's a big deal to me beating your rival
and then turning around and beating a really good Iowa
State team. When you start to. I mean, you're down
seven to nothing and you hadn't even you know, cracked
open the back of Doritos that you're about to eat
to watch a game, you know, because they've already scored
on a double move corner blitz and the safety has
(45:16):
to cover and bless his heart, I think, you know,
sometimes the offense beats the defense. The defense beats the offense.
They saw something on film where first play they were
gonna motion, they were gonna double move boom, and there
was you know, we're down seven to nothing already, but
again we came back there, we came back the second
(45:37):
half and that and it were beating the teams that
were supposed to beat were beating the teams that are
on the schedule, And uh so, yeah, I would put
us six ceiling, thirteenth floor.
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got coach Guy Holiday on the line.
Speaker 4 (01:21):
What's up, Guy? How are you, hey, Ben? How are
you guys doing. I'm doing great.
Speaker 3 (01:26):
I'm doing fantastic.
Speaker 5 (01:27):
Man.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It's football season. Basketball season is about to tip off.
We're gonna get into recruiting seasons. Well here shortly with
all the flips that will be occurring. Always something cooking
twenty four to seven, three sixty five in the college
football world. Do you miss a little bit of it?
And what don't you miss about it?
Speaker 5 (01:47):
Well? Yeah, of course I think you always going to
miss it.
Speaker 4 (01:51):
I miss my players, I miss the game days, I
miss recruiting. I don't know that I would miss recruiting now, Yeah,
because it's it's just different.
Speaker 5 (02:02):
It's not about building relationships.
Speaker 4 (02:04):
Of course, that's always part of it, but money now
plays such a big part, and and and there are
so many different factors playing players wanting to play now.
Speaker 5 (02:15):
In those days, I.
Speaker 4 (02:16):
Can't say I missed Sunday night late light meetings and
Monday night late.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
Like late night meetings.
Speaker 4 (02:22):
Uh. It eased up a little bit on Tuesday Wednesdays,
but that would be the only things I don't miss.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
Hey, there's uh, there's pros and cons to the game.
And I know you're enjoying the uh retirement from college
football and your endeavor into entrepreneurship. Give us an update
on what you got cooking down there in ag at Oyd.
Speaker 4 (02:44):
Uh, we're on your dream sports academy. We're doing we're breaking,
we're overbreaking even now. So we're training athletes. We have
several NFL players, Isaiah Stalberg from the Saints and a
few others. I just mentioned him because he is left
on his off week, and so we get quite a
few guys, and we have several top notch basketball.
Speaker 5 (03:07):
Players that come in.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
Going to keep that quiet, but we do anywhere from
seven year olds up to professional athletes. So it's been
fun and it's always fun to watch people grow and
that's where I've always gotten my satisfaction.
Speaker 2 (03:23):
From the development, right, buying into the human and developing
and maximizing their potential. That's what coaching's truly all about.
And you know, the new era of college football is
a little bit different. You look at the why of
why you got into college football, and things have.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
Changed a little a little bit for some coaches.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Right now it's about the filthy Luca or the ninety dollars,
but also the transactionality of it. You see coach Franklin,
who I think is a builder of men who got
into coaching for the right reasons.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
He was just in the CFP.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Last year and because he lost three close games, right,
he get fired and Brian Kelly gets fired, one of
the best coaches in the modern era. You look at
all these coaches being let go and maybe some of
them are justified, some of them I don't think are justified.
But the transactionality of it all, it's limiting the transformationality
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of what it should be.
Speaker 4 (04:22):
Well, it's it's kind of like being on cruise ships now, right,
You watch one pass you see another one passes, it's
you know, two ships.
Speaker 5 (04:32):
Passing in the night.
Speaker 4 (04:33):
As they say, I mean, that's that's common.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Now, it's so much different.
Speaker 4 (04:38):
When I got into coaching, I got in and people
know me, know, coming from a single parent background and
and father died in Vietnam. I got in it because
my coaches were father figures to me and they laid
down accountability, responsibility, how to grow as a person, how
to be a man, and helping me through things that
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my mother just couldn't couldn't help me understand how to
become a man. Nowadays, it's let's be honest, it's all
about win now. James Franklin, you you know, it is
what it is. He didn't win a championship. People want
to win national championship. See, you know in fourteen years
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is a long run. Brian Kelly, You know people always
say that just wasn't a good fit. Well, a good
fit is anybody who wins. And when you're going to
LSU if you don't win a national championship in four years, you're.
Speaker 5 (05:38):
Going to be out.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And that's just you know, when you take a job
like that, it is what it is, and you know
it's hard for me to say, Oh, I feel bad
for a staff. I can't feel bad for anybody that's
going to take home fifty four million dollars.
Speaker 5 (05:54):
Sure, I mean that's at.
Speaker 4 (05:56):
Sixty four years old, fifty four million dollars richer. He
just he and his family generational wealth. So kudos to
him for that. But as a coach, you always want
to be winning. I mean, that's the bottom line.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
Do you think.
Speaker 2 (06:13):
Do you think these coaches Coach Kelly, coach Frank Klint,
some of these high level coaches, do you think they
get back into coaching despite you know, the big time pals,
because I think their contracts state that if they do
take a job in TV or another job, there is
a I don't know, some sort of mitigation clause that
the universities don't have to pay out the amount that
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was guaranteed to them if they get another job.
Speaker 5 (06:38):
I think it's all about the right job.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
You know, when you've had LSU and you've been at
Notre Dame, what jobs are better than those? And so
for Brian Kelly at sixty four, he'll get the itch
just like me. I mean, I'm sixty now not there
are times I want to go back and you do
miss it, and he's going to have that itch because
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you've been around in your whole life. James Franklin, There's
no doubt James Franklin will coach again. I know James,
and you know he was a perfect fit at penn State.
He was from Pennsylvania and went to college at a
Division two school in Pennsylvania. So I know I can
say with any doubt in my mind, James Franklin will
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be coaching again. There's no doubt in my mind, and
he'll be a head coach. With the number of jobs
that's open, and you look at a guy at average,
I think ten wins a season, there's a lot of
teams that would take that Guy Holiday.
Speaker 2 (07:38):
Coach Guy Holiday, former coach at BYU and Utah talking
some college football with this year on your Utah ESPN
Radio network. What did you make of the robbery game
this year? What do you make of the rivaly game
in its present state? Both teams in a conference now
and BYU's won three in a row.
Speaker 3 (07:56):
How did that happen?
Speaker 4 (08:00):
Wow, that's a that's a great question. I think it
it's hard for me to say twenty twenty one. You
know that was that was a little bit different. The
last two years, BYU has earned to win. They they've
and I'm not saying they didn't earn it in twenty
twenty one. I don't want to leave that on, but
there was several injuries that occurred and we all know
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the track record of that. These last two years watching BYU,
they just believe. I mean, I think I tweeted out,
you know you can at some point you got to
say they're not lucky.
Speaker 5 (08:35):
They just believe they can win.
Speaker 4 (08:37):
And that comes across to me when you watch them
on a game and you watch that sideline. I am
a big person who watches body language. I watch relationships,
player relationships, and.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
If you look at the sideline, the sideline will tell
you a lot that you want to know.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
I've never seen BYU look like we can't win this game.
They believe they can win every game and that that
is a culture that has been built in that program
and they've done a great job. And watch a true
freshman perform as Baar did, and I think a couple
of weeks ago I talked about he's not a great
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thrower yet, but hell, he proved he can. He can
beat you with your arm. He can beat you with
your with his feet. But what comes across about him
on the field and watching the huddle, those players respond
to him. I don't know him personally, but I'm fairly
confident he has a dynamic leadership personality quality about him.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Yeah, it's it's intriguing to see what's going on here.
And and I was pulling stats right when when b
why you got the win. I was like, I wonder
what the record is BYU versus Utah when they're in
the same conference in the modern era, and b YU
and Utah when they were in the Mountain West Conference
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era to together went once Kyle Whittingham got the head
coaching job from five to twenty ten, it was three
and three. And now that they're in the same conference,
you know, based two to zero in the Big twelve.
So right now it's it's five and three versus us
when they're the same conference. And I wonder if when
there is an equivalent footing of resources conference equivalency, you know,
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recruiting equivalency to a degree, it kind of maybe flips
the script a little bit of this rivalry game.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
Yeah, I think if you look at it that way,
you can surely make a case for it. I think
going in the game statistically, if you look at the
two teams statistically, and you buy into the that Vegas
knows something that we don't know. I think many expected
Utah to win that game, and I think a lot
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hens on And I said this when I was at Utah.
The one thing I wouldn't say to one thing because
I learned so many things from Wit, but special teams
was always emphasized, heavily emphasized from from Tom who plays
who who was a punter for us too. It's so
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many examples, all of our place kickers. But I always
go back to Mitch Wiznowski and nothing against the kickers previously,
but Mitch Wiznowski and Matt Gay, they that was two
of the best combinations I've seen.
Speaker 5 (11:29):
And I think since then.
Speaker 4 (11:32):
I know they had the transfer kicker come in from Colorado, but.
Speaker 5 (11:35):
Since then the st game hasn't been as immaculate as
it was at.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
The University of Utah, and it cost him that game.
I mean, you know, people, of course, with Wi's going
to defend his staff. That's one thing about with man,
you will You're going to get some shots behind the scenes,
He's going to tell it like it is to you.
But I think his reluctance not to kick field goals
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says a lot. And the analytics, I'm sure fourth and one,
you gotta go for it, the fourth and three, fourth
and seven.
Speaker 5 (12:11):
I think that came down to as much.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
About how he felt about his kicking situation, whether it
was doing warm ups, whether it was from existing games.
I don't think Witt felt solid about that and that
that played the part. And I think if you go
back and into that nine game run and the special teams,
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that b Yu wasn't quite up the par with Utah.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
You know, K Pop did a great job.
Speaker 4 (12:47):
But now I think with K Pop and J Hill
together because people don't realize J Hill was a st
gurer and so bringing those two together is that's powerful.
And I don't think you see a weakness and the execution.
Speaker 5 (13:05):
Let's take talent.
Speaker 4 (13:06):
We can go back and forth, Oh we got more
talent here, we got more That's always debatable.
Speaker 5 (13:11):
But at the end of the day, the execution.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Of BYU right now is a lot better in the
st department than it has been in the past. And
I think that was as big of a contributor to
that game as anything else. I mean, you had to
turn over on the punt return by Utah. You had
to didn't come up and kick the extra or kick
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the field goals. And that is a we're talking about
four plays created much more than a three point swing
in that game.
Speaker 2 (13:45):
Yeah, crazy times, no doubt about it. In this robbery game.
And I do believe you're right. Special teams. One of
the key stats that I was looking at leading up
to kickoff in this most recent robbery game was that
Utah special tas unit was like forty fifth, forty fourth
in the country at that time from an efficiency standpoint.
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That's punt cover, kick cover, punt return, kick return, fuel goal,
you know, kicking, et cetera. And BYU was sixth in
the country. I mean, that's just stark difference. And that's
the difference between winning and losing a game.
Speaker 4 (14:22):
There's no question, and it is an emphasis that a
lot of coaches missed or miss I should say, and
and I don't know, I'm not at the University of Utah,
but I can guarantee you after that game the pressure
was felt. I promise you that, and I think you
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will see improvement down the stretch and on that end,
but right now by us execution all around, I think
they're executing at such a high level and the quarterback
is not turning the ball. I think Jake the last
couple of years was subject to turning the ball over
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at critical times, even though he made his fair share
of big plays. You don't see the turnovers from Bear,
which they are playing such really good, complimentary football. They
run the ball well, they played great run defense, and
they get turnovers. And anytime you do that, you're gonna
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be in football games. And then the key component that
comes in is down the stretch. Who believes they can
win DYU believes they can win football games down the stretch.
Speaker 5 (15:38):
You see it over and over again.
Speaker 4 (15:40):
You saw it against Utah, you saw it against Iowa State.
There was a previous game earlier this year that they
were down. I can't recall. They came back and won.
So to me, that means the players are bought in.
The players are taking ownership, and they're saying, put the
ball in our hands, coach, we're gonna win the game.
Speaker 3 (16:01):
I love that breakdown.
Speaker 2 (16:02):
We got Guy Holliday here on ESPN the Fan talking
some college football.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
Rivalry Holy War football.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
One individual who has received a significant amount of criticism,
as all offensive coordinators do at BYU. You saw it
with Robert and I when you were at BYU, and
I think Robert and I produced some of the best
offenses in BYU football history. He set records with these guys,
Harvey Ungo, Curtis Brown, both rushing record centers. Jamal Williams
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ended up being a rushing record center. Austin Colley, Dennis Pitta,
Max Hall, John Beck. Go down the list of like
the yards and the points, and you know you can criticize,
you know, for like in big games going against big
time opponents. Maybe the play calling wasn't as creative as
bau fans wanted to be, but the productivity stands the
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test of time. A Rod, I think is producing at
a high level and definitely has improved over the years.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
But I think he's always been I call him.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
This spectacled booth strategist, film junkie, and now the fans
are finally giving him his flowers. Give me your thoughts
on the trajectory of a Rod, the unfair criticism, and
where he currently stands.
Speaker 4 (17:13):
Well, I think, first of all, let's go back to
Utah where him and I work together, and I've known
I knew a Rod prior to even working with him.
I think when you work, the thing about coach, with
his personality and his demeanor is so demanding that you
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catch yourself trying to please with more so and you
sometimes don't listen when he says, do what you have to.
Speaker 5 (17:44):
Do to win the game.
Speaker 4 (17:46):
But in your mind, you know, when you're on the
headsets or some other things, you can become intimidated or.
Speaker 5 (17:54):
You can say that you know, maybe.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
This is how I think he feels versus and so
I think that it's stifled a Rod. I think my
first year with a Rod we were productive, tim Patrick
were productive.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
I believe we won nine to ten games that year, and.
Speaker 4 (18:14):
I thought he was really good. I thought he was
really good taking the pieces that he had and trying
to get the right people of football and still trying
to play complimentary football because you don't want to put
your defense in situations where they will ultimately fail. You
don't want to have interceptions on the minus thirty five
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yard line and the offense gets the ball on the
plus twenty because they returned to pick fifteen yards.
Speaker 5 (18:43):
I think.
Speaker 4 (18:45):
Being in oc particularly at DYU. That's got to be
the hardest job in the freaking world. And it's because
we're talking about we're talking about legends, legends. Lavelle Edwards
is a legend, an offensive legend, Norm Child offensive legend.
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I mean, Brian Billock worked there, Mike Holmger, I mean,
just keep going. Andy Reid, oh my god, I mean,
just give it some thought like so that the.
Speaker 5 (19:19):
I don't even I.
Speaker 4 (19:20):
Mean, just the goal to reach the plateau that you're
trying to achieve its Hall of Fame status. Okay, And
then every BYU fan, as every Rabbit fan base, has
an opinion. He doesn't throw the ball to the tight
end enough. You won the game, Well, the tight end
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needs to get the ball more. But you won the game, well,
he needs to throw the ball to Chase Roberts more.
Speaker 5 (19:52):
Guys, you won the game.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
At the end of the day, does it matter if
you won the freaking game? And that's what I think
gets lost And so I love, like some of the
most fascinating things is listening to educated fan base because
BYU has an educated fan base, and so it's intriguing
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how many great offensive coordinators are sitting out there who
doesn't look at.
Speaker 5 (20:23):
Film day in and day out, and.
Speaker 4 (20:26):
We'll complain because we aren't running full back.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Guy, why aren't we using the fullback one? Well, we
don't have one. Well why is he running the speed
sweep so much?
Speaker 4 (20:36):
Well, guys, on film, that's what they saw that worked.
It's easy to sit back. Well, don'get throw the ball
to the tight end. We got this transfer from Utah.
He's an NFL guy. He needs to touch the ball. No, guys,
the whole objective is when the freaking game get to
the college football playoffs, win the Big twelve.
Speaker 5 (21:00):
That's what matters to me.
Speaker 4 (21:02):
But man, to watch this guy take quarterback after quarterback
after quarterback and be successful is I think is commendable.
And I won't even get into the Utah situation as
far as the players there, but let's talk about BYU. Okay,
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you had a first round pick, all right, Zach Wilson,
first round.
Speaker 5 (21:27):
Pick, second pick of the draft. Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:31):
Oh, then you go and you got Jaron Hall. Oh
well he gets drafted.
Speaker 5 (21:37):
Wow?
Speaker 4 (21:38):
Okay, Well, then you get Ratlift and or I'm sorry
if I pronounced the name.
Speaker 5 (21:45):
You take this Reslas, I'm sorry you take him and
you take a kid.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Who was virtually unrecruited, and you win ten games with him.
Guys with noticed send a trend here. So now you
take a kid who walked fresh off of high school
campus and you are eight and old with this kid
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ain't and freaking oh. You got to give credit where
credit is due. You gotta give credit where creditors due.
And I give all the credit to a Rod the
offensive staff. I love what Fessi is doing. He's got
those kids believing they can make plays. They don't have
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to be the fastest, they don't have to be their
well coached. I watched the route running. The route running
is good. They know how to separate. Chase Roberts is
doing an outstanding job. Kingston played his butt off this
last game. The contested catch he made for the touchdown
and the quarterbacks getting protection. Not to mention, you got
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a freaking human bulldozer back. They're playing quarterback that's hurtling
people to running over over people at two hundred and
twenty five pounds. I've read so many statistics on how
big he is. I don't even know how big the
kid is. I mean, i've heard six two to two
twenty five six foot two thirty five.
Speaker 3 (23:11):
I mean, we got it a fut No, he gave
it to his official leagus. I should have I to
have texted you.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
He told us he's two thirty five six thirty five two.
Speaker 4 (23:21):
Six two to two thirty five quarterback that you're using
in the quarterback run game. So we're fitting all these
pieces in and I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I apologize to
the Cougar fan base. Not every player can touch the
ball as much as you like. Your job is to
win the game, and that's what a Rod is doing,
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and he's playing complimenting with football.
Speaker 5 (23:45):
The defense is always in good situations.
Speaker 4 (23:48):
They aren't starting on the plus twelve thirteen yard line.
They're freaking protecting the ball. They're running the football. Well,
oh and take away to run last week, Well, we'll
just throw it. We'll just throw it. And I'm gonna
show you I can be a passer. I'm going to
prove to you I'm gonna be able to open up
that playbook just a little bit more and I'm gonna
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be a passer. I'm a true freshman, guys, I am
a true freshman. And I will say that is the
best freshman quarterback in the country based on performance.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
I could give a flip about.
Speaker 4 (24:21):
Star ratings, who recruited who that kid is the best
freshman quarterback in the country right now?
Speaker 3 (24:30):
Yep, you know what's funny, And you'm.
Speaker 5 (24:32):
Got to give the coach some credit.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
Well that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2 (24:35):
Like, soho, anybody that is still hating on no, I'm
and I start to interject, because anybody that's hating on
a Rod still even after this year, their rhetoric turns to, well,
it's only because Bear Bachmeier is his quarterback.
Speaker 3 (24:48):
I'm like, female K nine bro.
Speaker 2 (24:51):
The reason why he's at BYU is because a Rod
recruited him, Like he's here because of a Ron.
Speaker 4 (24:57):
Right, well, let's let's get this straight. The only reason
Andy Reid is Andy Reid is because of Patrick Mahomes.
Come on, guys, give me.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
A break, Give me a break, Give me a break.
Speaker 5 (25:11):
Give me a break. Got players play coaches? Coach?
Speaker 3 (25:14):
Sorry, no, no, it's a it's a you know, preach.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Last thing before we let you go, guys, tell us
a little bit about o Yd for any way that's
listening down in the Valley of the Shun.
Speaker 3 (25:25):
How can they come in and train with you guys.
Speaker 4 (25:28):
Now, just look us up on the web. O ye
D Sports h O y D Sports Academy and you can.
You can find us when you'll pull us right up.
We have a great baseball academy. I got three former
pro baseball players that run it. We have any sport
you want. You want your kid to get faster, send
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them in. We got a speed coach and that's all
he does. So you get him in. We'll get it fixed.
And don't let your child. If you can provide the
training and you want them to excel at the best
possible ability that his athletic ability allows, bring them on
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in and you.
Speaker 5 (26:13):
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Speaker 4 (26:13):
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waiting for you to get your butt down here so
we can get on the golf for bro.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
You know I got two kids now, I'm working two jobs.
You know you know I don't I don't vacate.
Speaker 7 (26:29):
No, I'm not gonna let you say that you've taken
the most vacations this year, and that's been true.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
To hold it down.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
That's true, you take vacation this year, But I don't
determine where we all go on Maca, sure you don't
determine that I do not determine that I am led
by the leader of our home.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
Better three forces.
Speaker 2 (26:49):
I was like to say, Brook, Brooke says where we go?
So I just have to convince her, like, Hey, I
think I need to go down to Arizona just to
be with my people, you know what I mean. So
I'll see if I can get down the guy. We
love and appreciate you here. Thanks so much for hopping on.
Speaker 5 (27:04):
Hey, I appreciate you.
Speaker 4 (27:06):
And Jordan had his first baby, so he's learning like
you learning.
Speaker 5 (27:10):
Not only does mama run it, but the kids run
the house too. You just there for the ride.
Speaker 2 (27:15):
Have a great hey, love and appreciate you guy. Much
love to you and your family. Shout out to Jordan Leslie.
We gotta get Jordan on the show. We gotta get Jordan.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
You gotta get Jordan. Great guy. Holiday. All right, guys,
we're gonna take a brief time out.
Speaker 5 (27:27):
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the hotline. Welcome in former b YU great quarterback. We
got Steve Klements on the line. Steve, how that are you.
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Buddy good Man?
Speaker 7 (29:27):
What's up, dude?
Speaker 3 (29:27):
How are you living the dream?
Speaker 5 (29:29):
Man?
Speaker 2 (29:29):
Appreciate you hopping on? How was the honeymoon? How was
the honeymoon?
Speaker 7 (29:34):
Uh? If fun wasn't illegal, I'd be in prison right now.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
Boom shock a lock. I'm glad you had a fantastic
time in Hawaii. It look it all And getting back
into the real world now what a tough transition.
Speaker 7 (29:48):
I know, both feet are on the ground now again.
But it was great. It is absolute bliss.
Speaker 2 (29:55):
Love it, man, Love that you got to experience that
and have fun with it. You're and we need to
tap into your mind a little bit regarding to be
with football Bear Backmeyer Bear force one. Some are calling him,
some are calling him the bear tar. Some people are
calling him, Uh you know, air Bear. What's the nickname
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of choice for you for Bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 5 (30:24):
Dude, I don't know.
Speaker 7 (30:29):
I'm just calling I just call him big Bear.
Speaker 5 (30:31):
I mean, the man is.
Speaker 7 (30:33):
Just doing it, you know, And uh yeah, it's it's
fun to watch. It's fun to see. Obviously, everybody's on
a high from the last I would say obviously the
last two weeks and you know, in the grand scheme
of things, the entire season. But yeah, certainly he's a catalyst,
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and certainly he's he's cleared up a lot of questions
that I think a lot of us had not, not
just as former players. Maybe you know, I may know
a little bit more about this position than most people,
but like generally speaking, the coolest thing for me to see.
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And yeah, it's taken quite some time, but you know,
eight and no the last two years, first time in
school history to go eight and no the in two
consecutive years. But I think this year, obviously, the difference
between this year and last year is last year we
go up on the hill, we win, and then drop
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the next two. So you talk about a trap game,
that trap game should have been, and I think it
was for the first half. We still had a hangover
on the first half of a couple of days ago.
And I because you know it's Robberie, we we you know,
put our I think we probably put all our eggs
in one basket last year, dude. We kept some eggs
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out of the basket this year. And I think that's
the difference and the difference would be yes, athletically, yes, talent.
I think we're better, like y'all have talked about on air,
But I think there's a lot of coaching that that
is going on here that we don't see that's making
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I think the biggest difference. Yes, Big Bears there and
whatever you want to call him, and and he's you know,
answering a lot of questions I think we all had.
But to me, it's been really the coaching staff where
K Pop special teams, Jay Hill another year under his
belt and getting over the hump of I think the
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biggest win so far was last Saturday. It wasn't against Utah,
it was how do you respond to robbery and winning
a game against them? All emotions we're at home where
yeah we're not favorabe gosh, thang it, we have the
pressure they don't, Yeah, right, And to come out on top,
uh and then to follow that up and to dr
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to fly half across the United States and beat a
really good Iowa State team and and they're always gonna
be good. They're gonna they're gonna put up seven or
eight wins every single year. Maybe they're gonna get to
a double digit once every three forty. But that's Campbell's
done a really really good job and he's always you know,
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the next hottest thing that when you know head coaching job,
get come up that that dude is usually that's his name, Kimpbell,
that that's one of the guys that they throw out there.
And so I think the biggest win has been Saturday,
and after we took a cold shower at halftime because
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I think we still had to hangover the first half
both offensively and defensively, we took the coach hower and
I think you really saw what good coaching does and
allows by U football program led by Kalani. As a result,
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you know, now we're ranked tenth in the nation and
we didn't lose the next game after beating Arrival previous week.
And so, man, I haven't been more excited about BAU
football until it wasn't ten days ago, it was the
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aftermath of three days ago.
Speaker 2 (34:44):
Well, you bring up a really hot take, and we
asked Congranation earlier today in our one of our our
our questions of the day, how would you rank the
best and worst wins of the season for BYU And
it sounds like you're taking the Iowash State game over Utah.
Would you put Utah's the second best win of the season.
Then you got Arizona double overtime thirty three twenty seven,
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you have Colorado on the road twenty four to twenty one.
You have West Virginia thirty eight thirty or thirty eight
twenty four, East Stamford twenty seventh or three East Carolina
thirty four to thirteen, and then Portland State sixty nine
to zero.
Speaker 7 (35:24):
I'd probably do so I took the robbery out. I'd
go Arizona and Utah three wyldo Arizona two, just because
because whinny, I'm telling you like winning on the road.
Something happens, well, yes, because something happens in Provo. That's
that's quite to me. Yes, I'm a homer. Whatever I
(35:46):
play there, whatever crap. I think the same thing happens
in Rice Ecels on Saturday night two. It just so happens.
This was in Provo. Now, we did beat them in
Saturday night in Rice Decels in twenty twenty four, so
I guess maybe that blows up out of the water.
But something happens in Provo on Saturday nights typically in
the fall and to the detriment of the opposing team.
(36:10):
So to me, man, you talk about a home field advantage,
there is a home field advantage there. Absolutely. I don't know.
I think I sat down for in between the first
and second quarter and half of them and in between
the third and fourth that was it. I stood up
the rest of the game, you know, because it's it's Utah. Like,
(36:33):
you're not sitting down unless you know there's a change
of possession and you got to wait five minutes for
a commercial break for the game to come back. And
so yeah, I would put because of because of everything
that they these gets invested into Utah and leaving eggs
(36:54):
out of the basket. Absolutely, I think Iowa State it
shows the maturity of everybody in that program and including
you know, the coaching staff and everybody and their support staff.
Is that, Okay, this is not the end all be all.
(37:15):
We can't just we can't exhale, right, We've inhaled for
eight games or at that point six games to game eight.
We can't exhale because Iowa States good, They're on the
road their conference foe, and we're looking this is not
(37:36):
about Yeah, it's a big, big twelve championship. That's you know,
it's our goal. But now we're we're talking about being
nationally ranked, getting in the playoffs. So it's not good
enough to just beat our rival. It's not even right now,
it's not good enough to beat I will state, it's
(37:59):
not good enough to be undefeated after eight games where
you can't go anywhere. I understand that. But it's axel
a little bit because obviously we have a bye week
and it's it's good probably a great, great timing for
us to uh to have this break right now. But yeah,
(38:20):
it's it's it's a great time to be a Cougar
fan because we're we're in good hands, no.
Speaker 2 (38:26):
Doubt about it. Uh good hands in coaching. Good hands is.
Speaker 3 (38:30):
A Cougar play caller.
Speaker 2 (38:32):
Bear Bachmeyer, you stated prior to the season, okay, that
you went down there. You got aes on Bear Bachmeyer,
the Bear, tar Bear, Force, one air Bear, big bear,
whatever we want to call him. And you said, you
came onto our show and you're like, look, he reminds
me of a better throwing Tim Tebow, and you took.
Speaker 3 (38:51):
A lot of heat.
Speaker 2 (38:52):
Steve People declared that this former All American high school
football player college football player that late at Texas, late
at BYU had some injury issues. Yes, then coach high
school football for years that he did not know ball.
And I think you're being vindicated. I think you're being
validated now that you are a ball noer.
Speaker 7 (39:16):
Well, I mean I appreciate that, but yeah, I mean
that's it was. It wasn't a snap judgment. It was
based on a lot of experience in watching different quarterbacks
throughout the years, maybe emulate some myself personally growing up.
(39:42):
But yeah, that's what I saw. That's who you're reminded
me of at the time, and still does and probably
throughout his collegiate career, will continue to do so. Now
is he trophy winner? And no, that's not what I
was talking about. I was talking about the style of
(40:04):
play in which they both performed and have been very
successful doing so. Yeah, Tim Teeber went on and he's
he's known for a lot of different things now, namely
his faith. And that's not bad either then, you know,
comparing to someone who who really is adamant about his
(40:28):
faith as well and talks about it quite frequently even
when he was at Florida, but on the field in
between the lines. Absolutely, I think he throws a little
bit better ball than Tvo does. Style of player very
very similar, if not the same, as far as the
(40:48):
running ability. I don't know in the locker room what
he's like, if he's that type of leader you know
in the locker rooms as Tim was, obviously he was
quite vocal. I don't know if bears like that. I
don't know the kids from Adam, but I do know
(41:08):
what I see with my own eyes, both in practice
and on the TV or in person at Lavell Edward
Stadium is absolutely one hundred percent. He's a better throwing
Tim Tebow. And that's my story and I'll stick to it.
Speaker 3 (41:25):
Love it, Steve Clevitz.
Speaker 2 (41:27):
We also asked the question, you know, I know you
watch college football, like what is the true ranking of
this BYU football team? Like we look at the polls,
we look at the analytics. I'll give you you know
where BYU ranks in some of these polls and analytics. Right,
so ap Poles obviously number ten the coaches polls at nine.
Massy rating, which is an analytic that I like, It's
(41:50):
at eight. ESPN FPI is sixteenth, FEI is eighteenth. Sp
plus is more of an efficiency rating that's nineteenth in
the country, and then Sagarin is another efficiency that trick
and they're at twenty fourth. Like, how good is this
blea football team? What do you think the ceiling is
at floor is for this team this year? From like
(42:11):
maybe a final ranking standpoint.
Speaker 7 (42:16):
I think right now, writer, I think eight, maybe seven,
but I would I'd lean to more eight right now
as a true ranking in my opinion, I think a
ceiling would be I don't know if Ronnie said it
or somebody said it earlier, but I like the six thirteen.
(42:40):
I like the ceiling at six and the floor at
more like a thirteen. And again I really do think.
I'm man, I'm telling you three days ago was big,
at least for me just because having played before and
(43:04):
really coached. Yeah, it was just a high school level,
but man, to you know, you've been in rivalry games,
you played against them, and coach gets them, and the
ability for these guys, I would say not to exl
and go, Okay, yeah we beat our rival at home
(43:24):
and that's a heck of a win, and Cougar Nations
is going nuts and it was a big deal. Okay,
guess what we still got another game, and we got
to go travel across the US to play a really good,
traditionally good Iowa State team, and we saw that, Yeah,
we're probably on a little bit more of a hangover
(43:46):
through that first half, and then it clicked, and then
the coaching clicked. And whether you believe in halftime adjustments,
I don't know. I think a lot of times that
can be overdone. But uh, because offensively, I think halftime
adjustments really are just running the plays in the second
(44:09):
half the running the first half, but then you have
to actually do that right. And so a Rod is
becoming or has been, in my opinion, has become one
of the better offensive coordinators because of I think really
(44:30):
just this year and Klonie as a head coach as well.
You go, you start out with Portland State, and the
mark of a good team is beating beating people you're
supposed to beat, and in that case, beating them like
a drum like we were supposed to but then beating
your rival. And I keep going back to this, I'm sorry,
(44:53):
but it's a big deal to me beating your rival
and then turning around and beating a really good Iowa
State team. When you start to. I mean, you're down
seven to nothing and you hadn't even you know, cracked
open the back of Doritos that you're about to eat
to watch a game, you know, because they've already scored
on a double move corner blitz and the safety has
(45:16):
to cover and bless his heart, I think, you know,
sometimes the offense beats the defense. The defense beats the offense.
They saw something on film where first play they were
gonna motion, they were gonna double move boom, and there
was you know, we're down seven to nothing already, but
again we came back there, we came back the second
(45:37):
half and that and it were beating the teams that
were supposed to beat were beating the teams that are
on the schedule, And uh so, yeah, I would put
us six ceiling, thirteenth floor.
Speaker 2 (45:49):
Love that, my guys, Steve Klements, ladies and gentlemen, former
BYU quarterback, Dark and Ball.
Speaker 3 (45:56):
Where is gonna keeping up with the cougar segment?
Speaker 2 (45:57):
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Odeon Men's Where have you head in? Have you ever
gone into an Odeon Men's wear location?
Speaker 7 (46:06):
By the way, I funny you said that right now,
all my dress my white dress shirts church and at
my wedding. Uh came from Odeon. Oh my god, right
before we got you up? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yep. I
haven't got a suit from there yet, but all my
white dress shirts are from there.
Speaker 3 (46:27):
How good? I love how's that tempo shirt?
Speaker 7 (46:29):
Bro Oh dude, there's no I love them. It fits
me perfect.
Speaker 2 (46:34):
I love that that that athletic build you got, that
athletic build got nice you know what I mean, former
athletic build. He's still got nice shoulders, good broad shoulders.
Speaker 5 (46:45):
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Speaker 7 (46:46):
I gotta, I gotta pose honeymoon bodies.
Speaker 2 (46:49):
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Speaker 7 (46:57):
I love it.
Speaker 2 (46:59):
Appreciate you Steve. We'll catch up with at the end
again soon. Thanks so much for hopping on.
Speaker 5 (47:06):
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Speaker 3 (48:25):
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Speaker 2 (48:28):
I'm gonna be taking a couple of days off during
the bye week. So Ronald, the three man Weavers was
Brett always bringing the hammer, and Vic and the crew
gonna be giving you all the Cougar sports content that
your mind, body, soul, heart need. So getting your prep,
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