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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I wonder what coaches are really saying during their press conferences. Well,
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read between the Lions. Kelly pipinga, your special teams coordinator
and defensive ends coach, address the media yesterday and he
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had some gems, some great takeaways from these sound voice
as BYU prepares for the u of a game down
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how it plays out. And they are internally, the Big
Twelve is internally evaluating whether or not they're gonna move
the game up a few hours in order to avoid
some of the storms and avoid a potential delay or
even a cancelation of the game. So keep keep in
tune as we get more news and notes coming out
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some sound from Kelly popinga A Rod said, they've had
defenses do things they didn't game plan for five consecutive weeks,
by the way, and five consecutive weeks as well, fun Satura.
(02:33):
The day we've we've won the coin toss and deferred
in the second true crazy status of the day. We
hope we keep that streak alive. Have you had, though, Kelly,
have you had that experience from opposing offenses?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, I would say you always say the one game
that we weren't expecting things that happen was maybe the
Colorado game. They showed us some things that we had
not expected in that show. In the first two series,
they did a great job of game planning, changing up
their scheme a little bit, showing us some new things,
and then we made some adjustments and we were able
to play good defense the rest of the game for
the most part. But other than that, I feel like
what we saw versus ECU, we were gonna get what
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we saw. Verst West Virginia, we were going to get
Stafford same thing. We felt very confident our game plans
in every game, but maybe the Colorado game where we
were a little off and they had done some really
good game planning and showing us some things we hadn't
seen yet.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, you could tell. I mean, look, we kinda we
discussed that a little bit in preparation for the Colorado
game on the show. The one weakness, if you can
point out a weakness in a Jay Hill defense, any
defense for them, every defense, it seems, struggles with a
dual threat quarterback. And that's one of the things that
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we've struggled with over the last few years, whether it's
Rangell last year versus Oklahoma State, kind of a new
quarterback that we hadn't seen and then he starts running
everywhere and doing great things. And Cape Salter did those
same things as well running runshot around Boulder that evening
before by U. J. Hill and that coaching staff adjusted.
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So but for the most part, I think they they've
been pretty good about prognosticating schematically what these opposing offense
are going to do. Now, let's get over to the
return game, shall we. This has been a point of
debate in the first five games, Parker Kingston or Tiger Bochmar,
which one has emerged as the main punt returner.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think Parker the last couple of
weeks has showing the confidence as he's had in the past,
and so I think it will still be a mixture
of both of those guys. But maybe Parker going back
to taking the first couple and Tiger will still give
his opportunity. I like both of them back there, so
I think they both give us similar things, but I
also think they give us some different things too as well,
And so seeing both of those guys back there will
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continue to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Ronald the three man weaver asking the controversial competitive questions
had to be asked, had to be asked.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Someone had to ask it right, And I mean Tiger
caught the ball at Colorado and his own end zone.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I don't excuse me.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You haven't had a chance to ask K Pop right
he went on court in this corner, But I said,
you know what, this is the time to ask the question.
If you're a media member, you want to know and
Tiger to be because and we give constructive feedback. When
we had the lastings, he's made maybe some not good decisions.
The ball hangs up there against West Virginia. You're waiting, waiting, waiting.
Guys are really in front of you, close as ap,
and I are I mean, you catch it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He gets smacked.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So I'm like, Okay, I gotta ask Gay you got
a or? There is park of the guy and he
kind of alluded to some of it. Parker would take
the first few, but you'll still see Tiger. I think
by the end of season, I think that Or might
be removed.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, and I think Parker is also finally and we
can admit to this. He's very open about it. And
now he's finally fully healthy. He's finally back to what
he was able to be a little bit last year.
He got hurt the very first day of training camp.
This pretty much all of training camp. Came back in
time for the season but you know, Ben, when you
(05:54):
go through when you don't have your preseason, it messes
with your schedule, it messes with your conditioning, it messes
messes with your body, with a lot of things, and
you're not really fully yourself for the first couple of weeks.
I think you saw that at Parker Kingston as much
of anything on punt return, where he just wasn't himself.
And now we've come to find out in the last
week and a half or so that a lot of
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that was because he's finally feeling healthy, he's finally feeling
a little bit more like himself. He went off a
little bit in the receiving game last week against West Virginia,
and he's looking like a little bit more of that
shifty Parker Kingston. I think in the punt return that
hopefully should bear fruits bared dividends for BYU the rest
of the season.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I love dividends in the return game. Give me all
the dividends. Shout out to Bender investigator. Bear bear some
good dividends in the return game. And PK can definitely
and can give definitely give you a great roy when
he's healthy and he's strong and he's nourished and strengthened,
and he is not suffering from all manner of soft
(06:54):
tissue injuries. So you guys are trying and true in
your takes. Appreciate that. Now, what's the reaction seeing Will
Farren miss a couple of field goals? Human? Guys? He's human.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
He made twenty five in a row, right, and so yeah,
I mean, and both of them were pretty decent long kicks,
and so yeah, I mean at the end of the
day that if he went perfect through this whole year,
he probably should get a wark.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
He probably should walk.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Away from football and never come back again if you
didn't miss another kick, right, But I mean nine for
eleven on the season and twenty four for twenty seven
a year ago. I mean, he's, yeah, one of the
best characters in the country. And so he's confident. And
the thing I love about Will is when he comes
off the field, he knows exactly what happened. You know,
he's coach I told that, or coach I ankled that,
or I had pulled through or whatever. Maybe he always
knows what happened immediately and he knows what he needs
(07:44):
to fix. And so you know, misses the one early
comes right back later in the game and makes the
one puts it right through.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So yeah, we have.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Extreme confidence of will. He has confident in himself, and
I think we'll be just fine going forward.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You know, I love I love k Pop because he's
justly jovially sarcastic.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well he knew and again I asked the question human
and he and he knows that he can do that,
Like Sean was there, right, I've gotten to know Kate
Pop better. I knew if I asked a question, Kate
Pop would give me the sarcastic answer and then the
reason whyle tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek. What I
was getting at was cougar nation. I said this to him,
The question is spoiled sometimes by good things, right, just
a little bit, just a little bit, right, spoiled by
(08:21):
good things, not great things, good things, you know, And
sometimes the expectation is, well he should miss and I'm like, well,
he's like, he's human, So I and he got to
the real answer. He knew exactly what it was and
something and the reason why I saw something on X
OF I'm starting to get worried about kicking now, I'm like,
why are you worried about kicking, like he hasn't missed.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He's allowed to have two or three misses. AP.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I just want to say one of the biggest improvements
for me, like the most glaring differences between Independence BYU
and Big twelve b Yu has been the kicking game,
because I think about like nine years ago, we're trying
Rhet Almond out there and we're nothing against him, but
sometimes when he'd go out to kick, we're worried, is is.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
He gonna rats catching strays over?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Is he gonna is he gonna be ball?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It is he like out?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Like, like, let's be honest.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
The difference is huge between a Red Almond type kicker
and a Will Farren type kicker, Like like, let's I'm
just being honest, Like we gotta be we gotta be
truthful here, like the like I remember watching games and
and I'm sitting on the couch with my dad and
like we'd watch the BYU game, and we'd watch Utah game,
and my dad's watching the Utah game.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Why can't be Why you get a guy like this?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And now b Yu's got the guy like this and
you know Utahs kickers missing five in a row, Uh. Sorry,
if we're gonna if we're gonna throw, we're gonna throw,
well throw it the right way. But uh, you know.
But but my point is the Special Teams difference between
Independence b YU and and Big Twelve b YU is
glaring like that. That has almost been one of the
(09:54):
biggest differences, in my opinion and biggest improvements from a
Big twelve since we joined the Big Twelve.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yeah, and there's there's no reason to worry about wolf Hear.
And he still made a thirty seven yard field goal
against West Virginia, so he still got it to an excident.
The field goal that he did, like the one I
think that sends out that he did miss against West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Was from forty eight yards. Yeah. Yeah, So he's one
of forty and forty nine yards and then one of
two on fifty plus. It's not a gammy by any means.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I know, he's hit him from almost sixty yards, so
it feels like anything should be a gaming for him
because he's been that good. But that's I mean, there's
some spoilage there, like he's not missing just these absolute
chip shots where you got to worry about your kicker out.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And I think I wonder on his career. I want
to say, I'll have to pull up his career stats.
But anyway, uh, you know, I I do want to
give some love to Jake Oldroyd, the all time leading
score and BYU football history. Yeah, because we were mentioning,
(11:02):
you know, the independence, and you brought up Alder or
you brought up by all men. I was like, guys,
Jake was a sniper for a minute before some injuries occurred,
and there's a reason why he's the all time leading
score in BA football history with like three hundred and
thirty eight points. He was a career almost seventy five
percent kicker, which is good, and then ninety eight percent
(11:24):
on extra points and had a long of fifty four.
So not to you know, be the contrarian, but I
he was during independence, and I know Jake didn't finish strong,
but some of the had to do with injuries. So
the repetitive use, I mean, it's kind of like, you know, look,
you know, kicking is a repetitive thing, right, you know,
(11:47):
And I think he had some back injuries. I think
he has a bed. We've had a couple of kickers
justin Sorenson. You guys may not know. He was probably
one of the highest rated, most talented kickers we have
ever recruited. Maybe Sean remembers and sorts it. But on
his mission he got bit by a brown recluse. I
think on his kicking leg. He came back. It's like
the Lord was just trying this guy. He's like Jonah
(12:09):
or something. I don't know, man, just trying him or
Joe excuse me, yeah, Joe. You know we learned about
Jonah and uh, you know this last week we talked
about Jonah's why you always go to them? Joe. Anyway,
he then he gets home from his mission and he's
riding a unicycle. He's falls off the unicycle, gets injured.
Then I think he's recovering and he's lifting weights in
(12:29):
the weight room and he's a big kid, he's a
strong kid. He hurts his back in the weight room
squatting and I'm like, man, this guy just can't catch
a break. And we never got to see like the
potential of him. And that was kind of during independence
as well, early on in independence.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Right, But my point is like the independence era, that
same time, Utah has got a kicker and a punter
was always up for the Kicker of the Year in
the Punter of the Year National Awards by you never
had anything close to that. And for the first time,
like Big twelve b Yu, we've got Rico, who's who's
in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, we've got we've got a
kicker who's just absolutely like we're freaking out when he
(13:07):
misses two kicks, like that's how good he's been.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Let me let me jump in here though, as there
is no one in the world who's a bigger Will
Farren guy than this guy I shagged kicks on his mission. Okay,
no one is a bigger Willfarreing guy than me. However,
we can use the word shag on the show. Well
that's coming from the guy who uses the word girth
every other segment.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I'm just saying, you use shag, so I'm gonna have
to talk to your your your bishop about that.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
I've served a mission so I can say that word.
That's the rule on this show. This is true anyway.
The point is, like Will Farren was a guy who
I can't remember if it was organized or Utah State
that didn't They didn't want him, like he was committed there.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
They got a new coach and they dropped him.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
So it's not And look again, I love Will Farin,
but it's not as though Will Farren was the number
one kicker in America and because b Yu was in
the Big twelve, they chose he chose to commit like.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
But like the development I'm saying is.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Sure, but I I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
And also Red Almond deserves no strays and I'm saying,
because I didn't have the headset at the time, it
weren't for Red Almond, you might lose to Portland State.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Back to that and seventeen. That's all I'm saying. So
I do agree.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
I think that says a lot about the team.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well, Justice, You're not wrong there. You're not not wrong there.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Where I will go along with Andrew Peterson, though, is
like Kelly Pupinga, I don't think gets enough credit for
how much of an MVP is Special Teams is to
this entire football team.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Last year six in the nation sp plus on the
special teams unit, and once again, I think they're top
ten through five five games.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
I need a royal Army Brancher that says k Pop
made special team sexy again. Oh yeah, because k Pop
made special team sexy. That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yep. Elite, elite, no doubt about it. All right, let's
move on, uh number eight. Anything you guys are doing
to prepare for the heavy rain, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
There's nothing really you can do besides you know you
can do some special teams wise, we've done a lot
of wet ball drills, just making sure the snap, the hold,
the kick. They're familiar with that with the wet ball,
because it is different. The ball's heavy year, obviously, and
so it's gonna feel different when you snap it, when
you get the hold, when you kick it. It's all
gonna be different. So they worked out today and yesterday.
We won't work out the rest of the week. But
just yeah, we know it's a pretty high chance. It
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looks like it's gonna be heavy, heavy rain, and I
think our team's up for that. They're excited and I
think they're gonna be prepared for that whatever environment they're
gonna be And we love the elements.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
We're ready for it. Let's go, Ready for the elements,
ready for the moisture, ready for the monsoon season down
there in Tucson, Arizona. What kind of weapon has Sam
Vanderhart been thus far for you this year.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, Sam, Sam's playing at a really high level right now.
He's doing a great job. One of the top hunters
in the country as far as the punk goes. And
then just our pin punts once we get inside the
fifty and having him be able to pin an offense
inside the ten yard line, that's been a huge part,
you know, going back these last couple of weeks, he's
done a great job of that. But yeah, he's playing
at a really high level right now. I think right
now we're one of the few teams that hasn't allowed
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any return yards on the punt team, and so we.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Got to continue to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And there will be a challenge this week because I
think they have two really good returners, so it'll be
a challenge and yeah, we'll see where it goes from there.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I mean, that's insane, like the once again making special
teams elite and making it great again, right and making
it sexy again. No punt return yards in five games.
That's insane. Guy, that's an insane stat of the day.
It just is Marcus mackenzie doing work. Yeah, and you
got to give credit to the cover team, but also
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Sam for you know, putting it, you know, to you know,
doing his little rugby stock kick, holding on to it
as long as you can, and then boot booting it
out there. So shout out to the Speedsters. Marcus McKenzie.
I think Morty Bomba has been out there, Evan Johnson.
I can't remember who else has been on those punt recovers,
but just speedsters doing work and covering those ponts. Great job.
(17:16):
The team as a whole has been really good at
creating turnovers and not giving up turnovers. Right. What do
you attribute that to? K Pop?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I just think the style of play that we're playing,
playing a little bit more man free, you know. I
think that's part of Coach Hill's defense, playing man coverage,
tight windows for quarterback staff to throw into pressure on
quarterbacks and making bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And then in emphasis, we emphasize.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That every day. We do a turnover circuit every Thursday
to emphasize as we're going into the game.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So there's a bunch of stuff that we do.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
But I think just the style of the defense that
we're playing and just the way Coach Hill emphasizes certain
things in meetings, I think just brings that alter reality,
I think we're on a similar pace interception wise. I
think we have seven interceptions in five games. That's exactly
where we were a year ago when we led the
country interceptions at the end of the season. So yeah,
I think our guys are confident in the defense, they're
executing the defense and that hopefully leads the more turnovers.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So sacks are overrated. Iron Tas is what he loves.
Man free doing a little bit or man free on
the back end, Tighter windows and more difficult to maybe
thread the needle for these quarterbacks. AP thoughts seven to seven,
baby seven. It T's baby thus far. Yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I mean last year, I think they also had seven
interceptions through five games. So we talked about can b
why you replicate you know, the turnovers that they did
last year, and so far it seems like the scheme
it's not just a fluke like they're saying like that,
the pressure they're putting on making quarterbacks uncomfortable, everything it works.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
It's getting the job done.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
And so I think if you ask any BYU fan,
like we have this conversation like our sacks overrated, I
think you ask any any fan would you rather have
a sack or an interception, an interception every day, right,
Like I'd rather have one interception than two secs. I
think that's that's pretty easily more valuable to a team. So, uh,
it's it's it's for the first time in like b FEN.
(19:14):
This is kind of a funny thing. Like when Jay
Hill came to BYU, It's like BYU discovered defense, Like
we are so excited to watch defense play. Like that
is the attitude that fans have towards this game.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Like our defenses under Bronco were phenomenal. They were phenomenal
like SI.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
But it's like like the fan reaction, it's like.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Twenty fourteen was not a good defense, yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
But we're like wow, defense and so defense like we
love defense.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It pretty crazy to see kind of the the role
reversal there though, with like the infatuation with defense now
with this coaching staff. And you got to give credit
to Jay, no doubt about it. You also have to
give credit to Garry Anderson for coming in as a consultant.
I think that's been beneficial. K Pop has been phenomenal.
Fione has been awesome. He's the the defensive pass coordinator essentially.
(20:05):
I can't remember what his title. Essentially defensive Passing game coordinator,
So shout out to all the coaches justin that is
a lot of former dcs on that defensive there's a
lot of d Last thing, what is your mentality like
k pop when you decide to run fakes on special teams? Yeah,
a lot of a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
A lot of it honestly comes back to we don't
want to pressure. We don't want pressure happening on our
field goal unit or a punt. So if we can
show a fake and get them to soften up and
get get them in a safe look, then that takes
pressure off of the kicker, takes pressure off of the punter,
and so ultimately, at the end of the day, that's
what we're trying to do. And so yeah, we have
to have the right looks and the defense has to
(20:49):
show us the things that we like.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And in that game, they gave us a look.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
We had practiced that field goal fake for three weeks
in a row, four weeks in a row, and they
happened to give us the look that we wanted and
we ran it and Sam executed and the guy's walk
well for him. And then if you guys like that
very next field goal. If you guys saw what happened. Uh,
West Virginia came out and a complete safe Look, they
only rushed three guys, which they never have done. And
so just taking pressure off of Will in those situations,
(21:12):
those fakes open.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
All that up for us. Yeah, we pontificated on backed
up and like, oh I don't want them price, I
don't want that smoke. Then about that? No more? Like uh,
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two games. He was injured for the first quarter or
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justin Kirkland a little bit better, justin how are you
feeling being out there after being injured for a while.
It's been really good.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
It's a you know, I was thinking about this as
a new opportunity for me. I've never obviously never been
in this position where you know, you have a little
injury and then come back and so kind of having
the perspective of, you know, you can either be a
victim or be a winner and attack it and come
back and you know, get back to where you want
to be. So it's been really good to you know,
figure out who I am as you know, through an
injury and stuff like that, and maybe more of a
(24:57):
less like main role cast, you know, and supporting the
boys from sideline during fall camp, stuff like that. And
so now be out there on the field and laugh
with everybody again and watch everybody make plays. Man, it's
been phenomenal, super fun.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
He's what an answer. He's full of vigor and vim
this young man full of vigor and vim your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That's a great answer. Like you can, you know, be
a victim of it, like you can shoot. Like I
love how you described that. Hey, that's a great mindset.
Like I didn't expect that first question out of the gate,
you know of And maybe he's standing them, you know
as a veteran guy been but not so many guys.
You know, it's hard when you get hurt. You probably
may be sulked. But he said, now you can either
bounce back from it to be a victim of it.
I'm really impressed by that answer.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
No, man, don't be a victim. You know, grasp a
hold of your destiny and take it it's yours. And
Justin Kirklin is doing that right now. He's not sulking,
he ain't angry about it. He's got an attitude of gratitude.
Those that are most grateful in life are typically the
happiest in life. They find the silver linings, they find
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the blessings in their lives. Now, Justin Kirkland, boy, do
you feel one hundred percent right now?
Speaker 8 (26:05):
It's a you know, it depends if we squat on
a Monday, you know what I'm saying, if we practice
after we go squat. So it does feel really good.
And I'm happy where I'm at. So we're just making
it happen.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Getting stronger, getting stronger, feeling stronger. Justin he's probably not
a hundred percent, like, let's be honest, like he's I
don't know if he's gonna be one hundred percent all
season long. But Justin Kirkland at sixtet three forty five
at eighty five percent or so, he's a load. And
he's a good athlete and highly touted, highly recruited out
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of the portal and BYU got him probably had to
pay a little the donors had to pay a little
bit of a pretty penny to get him in here
as a nil transfer right out of a P four
institution such as Oklahoma State. But I'm sure Justin Kirkland
is grateful that he's in Provo rather than Oklahoma State
right now because his coaching staff, the new coaching staff there,
he's not doing too well. Not doing too well boys
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and girls, all right, Getting back to it, was there
any adjustment coming back and getting acclimated to the scene
there in Provo justin Yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
It's ah, it is muscle memory a lot, like getting
on a bike. It's just kind of like a timeline thing.
Like when I came back, everybody was already six weeks ahead,
and so for me, I have been doing coach football
for a long time, but you kind of got to
go through the fall camps and stuff like that. And
so while everybody else is on like week week six,
we're on, but we had the three weeks of fall camp.
So I'm really on week three at fall camp where
they're on week nine potentially, So just trying to play
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catch up. But Stoll be smart and safe about it,
and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I mean, the good thing is is like when you're
not having to go through the grind of fall camp,
sometimes your body feels a little bit better. It just
can and even being limited in practice, it can be
a good thing, especially for a proven player, like once
you've proven yourself in the line of fire, in the
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fog of war, under the lights, all of the lights, like,
you don't necessarily you got to keep your card, you up,
you gotta stay strong, you gotta get your weightlifting, and
you got to do your technique work. You gotta do that, Souff,
But you don't have to it necessarily. Always go live
at eleven on eleven, right, you don't have to go
get it, get after it in all your one on ones, Like,
we know what you're capable of. And I think he's
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a proven entity. So you got to his health and
his well being and his availability is probably the most
important thing of all staying strong. Now, going back to
this last week's game, Justin was involved in that goal
line stand. A big part of that goal line stand.
Take us through what happened Justin on that goal line stand.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
And so I'm sitting there, you know, I'm looking at
the offensive guard too, and he's looking at me. So
I'm like, okay, here we go, man, me and you
one on one, you know what I'm saying. And then
they actually walked up to the line of scrimmage and
I was just like, hey, man, tell your coach, this
isn't gonna work. You know, get in their head.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I'm just playing it.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
But yeah, and then they ran right at me, you know,
so I was like, heck, yeah, this is my favorite play.
My favorite playing college football is you know, fourth and
one on the one or third on one, you know
what I'm saying. And then yeah, one of our linebackers
came in smacked him and I was like, gokoks.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
So it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I would like to for it's gonna work, I would
like to formally petition b YU Athletics for a stand
up night with Justin Kirkland, like this is a funny dude.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
This is a funny, funny dude.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Or can we get him miked up for the games?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
That'd be to get him micd up will be nice.
You know. That's the next thing. That's the next thing
that Brett Yormar is gonna do. I mean he's gonna
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Speaker 4 (29:44):
Every every team has two players with a mic in
their helmet.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
This all state sound bite. You're gonna get what is
a sound bite? Dude?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Perfect miked up Spotify perfect all brod perfec.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Gotta be perfect partner with twelve. Yeah, what's the what's
the beef? Jerky? Like Trapper Trapper, Old old Trapper Turkey.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I think Old Trapper is no longer a sponsor the
Big twelve. Oh man, they were a long time sponsored.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Bring him back for the sound bite some jerky anyway. Yeah,
he was a funny guy. He's funny. He's got some
he's got some jokes. Yeah, he's got some good quips.
He's got some good Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
He had some really good moments here, which I think
you'll see another one coming up here.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Would have made it even better if he wouldn't have
said just joking. Is like he looked at me, and
I looked at him, and I said, tell your coach,
this is not gonna work. I said that, you know,
I mean, it's a white lie, you know, but if
you do with a certain amount of poss is he seriouser?
Not serious? And but he never tells you. And that
would have made it, Like I think it would have
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impacted me even more. I'm like, man, I wonder if
he really did that. I wonder if he really said that.
But like I'll be honest, like you're tired, Like I mean,
like Trey can talk a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Say there's there's right people on the team who would
who I know, would say that because Tommy like, no, yeah,
you're not.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
It's not gonna both those guys are like long distance guys.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
There hundred guys. You know, it's like last year. I
would have thought, like someone like Connor pay would totally
say that you just straight up to the.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, that coach, this is just not gonna work. He
would say, we're gonna move you out.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
The way, like Justin Kirklin is the defensive line a
little less serious than Connor was. Connor was very serious,
but Connor would say that I.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Feel like, no, they most definitely you have to have
good cardiovascular strength in training to talk crap while you're
on like a long drive though, like you know what
I mean, like or or you're like coming in and
to spell somebody else and then you're talking trash. But
if you've been on the field, like sometimes it's hard
to talk trash. You're like kind of just like gasping
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for air. Quite honestly, you.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Can you can hear when the NFL has some guys
in my shout out to Trent Williams because he's an
offensive tackle that has cardiovascally and can talk ye talk drinking.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
That's not why Ben Krittle did the finger.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Oh yeah, no, no, I'm I'm I'm like a dwarf.
I'm dangerous over short distances like that's where I'm at. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
I was. I'm not. I was not talking a whole
lot of crow. I would do the shush. I just
shushed him and that that was my trash talk. I
didn't want to expand any energy. It was actually his finger.
He's just wheezing like a shush. She's like, all right,
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are you the type of guy justin Kirkland that would
like going up against the toush push? Dude?
Speaker 8 (32:35):
I love the touch push I Garrett, you know what
I'm saying. Like whenever you know, hopefully NFL is in
the future, stuff like that. Dude, You'll see me right
there at the bottom giggling of the touch push.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Gosh, Hey, shout out to the Shout out to Kenny
Bine Beat the Spin.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
This was a good interview yesterday. You brought a good
guy in general. He's hilarious, he's best. What does coach
Pu Pu Pola.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
What's the what's the proper wave of saying it?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I know, but it's no. But I was saying it.
Klan did way different than that week because we're like
poor poo Ha, It's not it's.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
Pull poor, I'm gonna ask I'm gonna ask him po Yeah,
So it's not Pooha, it's Poa do.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Uh what does coach Poa do to get you guys
ready along the defensive line? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (33:36):
And you know, shout out coach. He's a phenomenal coach
on and off the field, and you know he has
experience in the in the NFL, So it doesn't get
any more top tier than that. And so when we're
back there, you know, studying how far I was the
running back compared to the tackles, and then we're looking
at like little things like uh, little keys that the
guards do fingertips hard on the ground. Is there is
this hill up when he's pulling stuff like that? And
so we really dive in, especially like this group and
(33:57):
by you in general are a little bit older. We've
been around the game for so long as it's like
you don't really have to cover uh, the basics, which
you still do at the beginning, but now in like, okay,
instead of inside zone, you know where the doubles are
coming from, It's like, okay, should we go back on
the guards, we go back on the center, you know,
so little stuff like that. And he's really good at
listening to what we want to do. And then you know,
we come our hair, we throw, we'd like mess around
with it and practice, see what works for everybody. And
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then he is like completely accepted to putting us in
the best position possible to win. So phenomenal guy, phenomenal coach.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, Sudi was a really nice pick up. And remember
he wasn't even coaching at the time. He had said,
you know what, I don't know if I want to
coach anymore. I think he was like a bishop or
state president, isn't he Isn't he like I think he's
he's a bishop. He's a bishop. I think he was. Yeah, anyway,
serving the Lord with all this heart my mind is
freanth within his community and uh and then Klanne called
(34:45):
him said, hey, I have a new mission for you.
He only got like a one year break, yeah coaching.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Yeah, he wasn't out very long.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
And he said, you know what I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Think he might have still been teaching up at the
Institute at the university because he coached there. It started
out with with like the like the football religion class
they have a up at the institute, and I think
he just did like some part times just like extra
teaching up there as well. So yeah, he's very very
(35:17):
active man. And it's fai very spiritual man. By the way,
I need to correct myself, by the way, it because
you know what they called him up at the U
when he tackles, they called him coach bow coach bo
oh yeah bo yeah, not bo bo bo yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
With a B.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, So it's it's it's spelled with a P, but
it's like a really soft so it's more like a B.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
It's a little bit more. It's a little less closive.
All right, Okay, well that's a nerd coming out. Just
you know, we're gonna do our due diligen on this
and get down to that.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I've got I've got that from the pronunciation guy at
the University of Utah, from both of his his playing
days is coaching days, and also from the New York
Jets pronunciation.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
There you go, Like I said, we get nerdy we
get you know you better, you bet you know what
they need to do. They do the.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Exactly that's gonna be. That's gonna be quoting on your
page now. But no, they need they have players, do it,
bit of say their name. They need to have coaches.
Now do it that way.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
You just have the whole staff. So you just know that.
I just want to add that I agree with you.
Another one. What do you think justin Kirkland about the
potential for storms and rain on Saturday? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Yeah, I tell you what, if it's raining in Tucson
and I make a play, You're gonna see a penguin slide.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I hope, so it'll
be a fun one. Wait, wait, what penguin slide?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
If he gets if he gets a sack or a stop,
he's like penguin slide.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Like he's gonna I don't know if I've seen the
penguin slide. I need to see it. I need the
answer that you've.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Never seen You never seen a penguin slide?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, okay, that's the belly. Well there's that one year
it's the stomach. Yeah, yeah, it's like that. First the
first penguins there was a year when the Bears finally
won a football game. Come on, man, you didn't have
to do that, and.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
They just like their whole celebration was they did a
penguin say, it's like that, you.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Need to do that. He could have just left that
out of it.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
It's the only time I could think of a penguin slide.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
What did you have to We don't need to catch
strings random Come on now, Penguins very notorious for that.
The question is going to get a fifty yard but
first it might be worth the butt first or the
stomach first. It could be it could be both. It
can be both.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Look like cause penguins walk up and down icebergs a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, that's right. When they they'll just jump down.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Okay, okay, So if he doesn't like that with the
mouth open, I need a helmet.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I need him to open the mouth and do everything.
That would be pretty sweet. I mean he's in order
to do a penguin slide, I mean, even like with
as much water that would be forecast, you have to
get up some good top end speed the actual slide,
because I mean he could just stop. He's a big boy. Wait,
you know, if they have natural grass or turf. It's
(38:12):
natural gratural grass. Okay, so anyway, but you never know.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
He also he's gonna get a fifteen yard penalty with it,
so you got to make it look good.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah. Oh that's legit, Broe. That was the bad Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Arizona Stadium is currently field for field turf vortex court.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Wait, it's it's field turf now since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Oh well, that's why they're a bad program.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Since twenty twenty two. They took out the natural grass
in twenty twelve and put in field turf. Wait wait,
and then they updated it in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Oh okay, well there you go.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
So it's the new kind of turf, the extra I
hate turf, man. I don't like when they on turf,
and you know exactly why I don't. It's like it's
it's even worse though, because it's in Arizona. It's even
hotter that.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I feel. It's smoking hot. It gets smoking hut.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Maybe the rain, the rain might help you out in
the In that case, it might be better to have
rain than to have that hot of a field.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
There's a lot of talk about the tropical storm depression.
We've talked about a little bit on the show. We'll
talk about a little bit more here. That's going out
there undiscussed in the weather forecast is it's still projected
high of eighty six degrees.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh my gosh, so a lot of so a lot
of rain bundles.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Winter, yeah, not not not exactly, not exactly frigid either,
short leave shirt being from Chicago.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Humidity anyway, been back deep justin Kirkland. The defense doesn't
have to prepare for rain as much. What has the
offense done to prepare for the rain? The moisture?
Speaker 8 (39:49):
You know sometimes like when we make a cool play,
we're in the huddle and we like splash water at
each other, and so we always think it's raining a
little bit. But you know how BYU is we're gonna
run the ball. You know, rain shines, know whatever. So
I don't know what they're doing over there. I hope
it rains. I think they hope it rains too. You
talk to the offensive line, they want to run the.
Speaker 10 (40:07):
Ball too, So everybody wants it to rain. I'm ready
to I'm ready to make a declaration. He's reminded East
and it's not fully, but he's given me like Connor
pay vibes on the defensive line like Andrew Peterson point out,
and a little bit of Koalani because Kolani likes to
crack some jokes here and there. The sarcasm is hilarious.
Hits like I he's great man. You need to have
(40:27):
him after a postgame or a halftime interview.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Last thing from Justin Kirkland, the big man in the middle.
What makes this BYU defense so special?
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (40:40):
You know, I think, like you said, I've been on
a couple of great defenses, and I think something that
carries over from those defenses and these defenses is just
people willing to like sell out, fly around, hit people,
and so you kind of there's some of those guys
who are worried about their bodies. You know, we're Week six.
Everybody's banged up a little bit, and so you gotta
decide before.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
You come out.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Am I gonna be a man? Am I gonna fly around?
I sign up to play this game, and so am
I gonna you know, reckless abandon and light my hair
on fire, go hit somebody? Or am I gonna be like, Oh,
my thumb hurts, you know, my obo hurts, my knee
hurts whatever, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, you
watch these guys, even if you got a little bruise whatever,
everybody's still flying around. Everybody's still getting in there, finding
joy in the game. Like you watch the defensive line.
We'll take double teams. Everybody's laughing about it. So I
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think we're all a little bit messed up in the head.
But you gotta be if you're playing football, you know.
All right, thank you, Yeah, thank you, Brett.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
All Right, that's enough, thank you, pretty all right, that's
enough question. No more questions for this guy.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
All right, Listen, we need more player interviews like this
because there's so many players that come out and you
just hear the same thing. It's like, oh yeah, guys
are flying around, they're you know, making plays. Meanwhile, Kirklin
is coming out, He's like, yeah, we're all a little
bit messed up in the head.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You know, we're gonna do Penguins slides, probably get.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
A fifteen yard penal two, but he'll be worth it.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
He just doesn't care.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
He's just gonna say whatever, Yeah, it's the Conna pay
of the defense.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, just gonna say how it is.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
It's just a little less serial less serious, you know,
more jokingly, but yeah, Connor's like, well, you're all idiots.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
He's a jovial, jolly h jolly old fellow and uh
we love him.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
He's most likely to be Santa Claus in his ward
when he grows up.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
No doubt he'd be a fantastic You hit it right
on the head, absolutely, indubitably, indubitably. That was justin Kirkland.
Ladies and gentlemen, you're big man in the middle along
that defensive line. The transfer from Oklahoma State, Utah Tech
and from Roy High School, the former teammate in high
school of Parker Kingston. Justin Kirkland and Parker Kingston repping
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some sound from Kelly popinga A Rod said, they've had
defenses do things they didn't game plan for five consecutive weeks,
by the way, and five consecutive weeks as well, fun Satura.
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The day we've we've won the coin toss and deferred
in the second true crazy status of the day. We
hope we keep that streak alive. Have you had, though, Kelly,
have you had that experience from opposing offenses?
Speaker 2 (02:48):
Yeah, I would say you always say the one game
that we weren't expecting things that happen was maybe the
Colorado game. They showed us some things that we had
not expected in that show. In the first two series,
they did a great job of game planning, changing up
their scheme a little bit, showing us some new things,
and then we made some adjustments and we were able
to play good defense the rest of the game for
the most part. But other than that, I feel like
what we saw versus ECU, we were gonna get what
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we saw. Verst West Virginia, we were going to get
Stafford same thing. We felt very confident our game plans
in every game, but maybe the Colorado game where we
were a little off and they had done some really
good game planning and showing us some things we hadn't
seen yet.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yeah, you could tell. I mean, look, we kinda we
discussed that a little bit in preparation for the Colorado
game on the show. The one weakness, if you can
point out a weakness in a Jay Hill defense, any
defense for them, every defense, it seems, struggles with a
dual threat quarterback. And that's one of the things that
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we've struggled with over the last few years, whether it's
Rangell last year versus Oklahoma State, kind of a new
quarterback that we hadn't seen and then he starts running
everywhere and doing great things. And Cape Salter did those
same things as well running runshot around Boulder that evening
before by U. J. Hill and that coaching staff adjusted.
(04:03):
So but for the most part, I think they they've
been pretty good about prognosticating schematically what these opposing offense
are going to do. Now, let's get over to the
return game, shall we. This has been a point of
debate in the first five games, Parker Kingston or Tiger Bochmar,
which one has emerged as the main punt returner.
Speaker 2 (04:26):
Yeah, I mean, I think Parker the last couple of
weeks has showing the confidence as he's had in the past,
and so I think it will still be a mixture
of both of those guys. But maybe Parker going back
to taking the first couple and Tiger will still give
his opportunity. I like both of them back there, so
I think they both give us similar things, but I
also think they give us some different things too as well,
And so seeing both of those guys back there will
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continue to happen.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Ronald the three man weaver asking the controversial competitive questions
had to be asked, had to be asked.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
Someone had to ask it right, And I mean Tiger
caught the ball at Colorado and his own end zone.
Speaker 1 (04:59):
I don't excuse me.
Speaker 3 (05:01):
You haven't had a chance to ask K Pop right
he went on court in this corner, But I said,
you know what, this is the time to ask the question.
If you're a media member, you want to know and
Tiger to be because and we give constructive feedback. When
we had the lastings, he's made maybe some not good decisions.
The ball hangs up there against West Virginia. You're waiting, waiting, waiting.
Guys are really in front of you, close as ap,
and I are I mean, you catch it.
Speaker 1 (05:20):
He gets smacked.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
So I'm like, Okay, I gotta ask Gay you got
a or? There is park of the guy and he
kind of alluded to some of it. Parker would take
the first few, but you'll still see Tiger. I think
by the end of season, I think that Or might
be removed.
Speaker 4 (05:34):
Yeah, and I think Parker is also finally and we
can admit to this. He's very open about it. And
now he's finally fully healthy. He's finally back to what
he was able to be a little bit last year.
He got hurt the very first day of training camp.
This pretty much all of training camp. Came back in
time for the season but you know, Ben, when you
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go through when you don't have your preseason, it messes
with your schedule, it messes with your conditioning, it messes
messes with your body, with a lot of things, and
you're not really fully yourself for the first couple of weeks.
I think you saw that at Parker Kingston as much
of anything on punt return, where he just wasn't himself.
And now we've come to find out in the last
week and a half or so that a lot of
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that was because he's finally feeling healthy, he's finally feeling
a little bit more like himself. He went off a
little bit in the receiving game last week against West Virginia,
and he's looking like a little bit more of that
shifty Parker Kingston. I think in the punt return that
hopefully should bear fruits bared dividends for BYU the rest
of the season.
Speaker 1 (06:33):
I love dividends in the return game. Give me all
the dividends. Shout out to Bender investigator. Bear bear some
good dividends in the return game. And PK can definitely
and can give definitely give you a great roy when
he's healthy and he's strong and he's nourished and strengthened,
and he is not suffering from all manner of soft
(06:54):
tissue injuries. So you guys are trying and true in
your takes. Appreciate that. Now, what's the reaction seeing Will
Farren miss a couple of field goals? Human? Guys? He's human.
Speaker 2 (07:11):
He made twenty five in a row, right, and so yeah,
I mean, and both of them were pretty decent long kicks,
and so yeah, I mean at the end of the
day that if he went perfect through this whole year,
he probably should get a wark.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
He probably should walk.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Away from football and never come back again if you
didn't miss another kick, right, But I mean nine for
eleven on the season and twenty four for twenty seven
a year ago. I mean, he's, yeah, one of the
best characters in the country. And so he's confident. And
the thing I love about Will is when he comes
off the field, he knows exactly what happened. You know,
he's coach I told that, or coach I ankled that,
or I had pulled through or whatever. Maybe he always
knows what happened immediately and he knows what he needs
(07:44):
to fix. And so you know, misses the one early
comes right back later in the game and makes the
one puts it right through.
Speaker 1 (07:49):
So yeah, we have.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Extreme confidence of will. He has confident in himself, and
I think we'll be just fine going forward.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
You know, I love I love k Pop because he's
justly jovially sarcastic.
Speaker 3 (08:00):
Well he knew and again I asked the question human
and he and he knows that he can do that,
Like Sean was there, right, I've gotten to know Kate
Pop better. I knew if I asked a question, Kate
Pop would give me the sarcastic answer and then the
reason whyle tongue in cheek, tongue in cheek. What I
was getting at was cougar nation. I said this to him,
The question is spoiled sometimes by good things, right, just
a little bit, just a little bit, right, spoiled by
(08:21):
good things, not great things, good things, you know, And
sometimes the expectation is, well he should miss and I'm like, well,
he's like, he's human, So I and he got to
the real answer. He knew exactly what it was and
something and the reason why I saw something on X
OF I'm starting to get worried about kicking now, I'm like,
why are you worried about kicking, like he hasn't missed.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
He's allowed to have two or three misses. AP.
Speaker 5 (08:43):
I just want to say one of the biggest improvements
for me, like the most glaring differences between Independence BYU
and Big twelve b Yu has been the kicking game,
because I think about like nine years ago, we're trying
Rhet Almond out there and we're nothing against him, but
sometimes when he'd go out to kick, we're worried, is is.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
He gonna rats catching strays over?
Speaker 2 (09:06):
It?
Speaker 6 (09:06):
Is he gonna is he gonna be ball?
Speaker 1 (09:08):
It is he like out?
Speaker 6 (09:09):
Like, like, let's be honest.
Speaker 5 (09:11):
The difference is huge between a Red Almond type kicker
and a Will Farren type kicker, Like like, let's I'm
just being honest, Like we gotta be we gotta be
truthful here, like the like I remember watching games and
and I'm sitting on the couch with my dad and
like we'd watch the BYU game, and we'd watch Utah game,
and my dad's watching the Utah game.
Speaker 6 (09:31):
Why can't be Why you get a guy like this?
Speaker 5 (09:33):
And now b Yu's got the guy like this and
you know Utahs kickers missing five in a row, Uh. Sorry,
if we're gonna if we're gonna throw, we're gonna throw,
well throw it the right way. But uh, you know.
But but my point is the Special Teams difference between
Independence b YU and and Big Twelve b YU is
glaring like that. That has almost been one of the
(09:54):
biggest differences, in my opinion and biggest improvements from a
Big twelve since we joined the Big Twelve.
Speaker 4 (10:02):
Yeah, and there's there's no reason to worry about wolf Hear.
And he still made a thirty seven yard field goal
against West Virginia, so he still got it to an excident.
The field goal that he did, like the one I
think that sends out that he did miss against West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
Was from forty eight yards. Yeah. Yeah, So he's one
of forty and forty nine yards and then one of
two on fifty plus. It's not a gammy by any means.
Speaker 4 (10:24):
I know, he's hit him from almost sixty yards, so
it feels like anything should be a gaming for him
because he's been that good. But that's I mean, there's
some spoilage there, like he's not missing just these absolute
chip shots where you got to worry about your kicker out.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And I think I wonder on his career. I want
to say, I'll have to pull up his career stats.
But anyway, uh, you know, I I do want to
give some love to Jake Oldroyd, the all time leading
score and BYU football history. Yeah, because we were mentioning,
(11:02):
you know, the independence, and you brought up Alder or
you brought up by all men. I was like, guys,
Jake was a sniper for a minute before some injuries occurred,
and there's a reason why he's the all time leading
score in BA football history with like three hundred and
thirty eight points. He was a career almost seventy five
percent kicker, which is good, and then ninety eight percent
(11:24):
on extra points and had a long of fifty four.
So not to you know, be the contrarian, but I
he was during independence, and I know Jake didn't finish strong,
but some of the had to do with injuries. So
the repetitive use, I mean, it's kind of like, you know, look,
you know, kicking is a repetitive thing, right, you know,
(11:47):
And I think he had some back injuries. I think
he has a bed. We've had a couple of kickers
justin Sorenson. You guys may not know. He was probably
one of the highest rated, most talented kickers we have
ever recruited. Maybe Sean remembers and sorts it. But on
his mission he got bit by a brown recluse. I
think on his kicking leg. He came back. It's like
the Lord was just trying this guy. He's like Jonah
(12:09):
or something. I don't know, man, just trying him or
Joe excuse me, yeah, Joe. You know we learned about
Jonah and uh, you know this last week we talked
about Jonah's why you always go to them? Joe. Anyway,
he then he gets home from his mission and he's
riding a unicycle. He's falls off the unicycle, gets injured.
Then I think he's recovering and he's lifting weights in
(12:29):
the weight room and he's a big kid, he's a
strong kid. He hurts his back in the weight room
squatting and I'm like, man, this guy just can't catch
a break. And we never got to see like the
potential of him. And that was kind of during independence
as well, early on in independence.
Speaker 5 (12:45):
Right, But my point is like the independence era, that
same time, Utah has got a kicker and a punter
was always up for the Kicker of the Year in
the Punter of the Year National Awards by you never
had anything close to that. And for the first time,
like Big twelve b Yu, we've got Rico, who's who's
in the NFL. Yeah, yeah, we've got we've got a
kicker who's just absolutely like we're freaking out when he
(13:07):
misses two kicks, like that's how good he's been.
Speaker 7 (13:10):
Let me let me jump in here though, as there
is no one in the world who's a bigger Will
Farren guy than this guy I shagged kicks on his mission. Okay,
no one is a bigger Willfarreing guy than me. However,
we can use the word shag on the show. Well
that's coming from the guy who uses the word girth
every other segment.
Speaker 1 (13:28):
I'm just saying, you use shag, so I'm gonna have
to talk to your your your bishop about that.
Speaker 7 (13:33):
I've served a mission so I can say that word.
That's the rule on this show. This is true anyway.
The point is, like Will Farren was a guy who
I can't remember if it was organized or Utah State
that didn't They didn't want him, like he was committed there.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
They got a new coach and they dropped him.
Speaker 7 (13:49):
So it's not And look again, I love Will Farin,
but it's not as though Will Farren was the number
one kicker in America and because b Yu was in
the Big twelve, they chose he chose to commit like.
Speaker 6 (13:59):
But like the development I'm saying is.
Speaker 1 (14:03):
Sure, but I I don't know.
Speaker 7 (14:07):
And also Red Almond deserves no strays and I'm saying,
because I didn't have the headset at the time, it
weren't for Red Almond, you might lose to Portland State.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
Back to that and seventeen. That's all I'm saying. So
I do agree.
Speaker 6 (14:17):
I think that says a lot about the team.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
Well, Justice, You're not wrong there. You're not not wrong there.
Speaker 7 (14:23):
Where I will go along with Andrew Peterson, though, is
like Kelly Pupinga, I don't think gets enough credit for
how much of an MVP is Special Teams is to
this entire football team.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
Last year six in the nation sp plus on the
special teams unit, and once again, I think they're top
ten through five five games.
Speaker 7 (14:44):
I need a royal Army Brancher that says k Pop
made special team sexy again. Oh yeah, because k Pop
made special team sexy. That's all I gotta say.
Speaker 1 (14:52):
Yep. Elite, elite, no doubt about it. All right, let's
move on, uh number eight. Anything you guys are doing
to prepare for the heavy rain, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:06):
There's nothing really you can do besides you know you
can do some special teams wise, we've done a lot
of wet ball drills, just making sure the snap, the hold,
the kick. They're familiar with that with the wet ball,
because it is different. The ball's heavy year, obviously, and
so it's gonna feel different when you snap it, when
you get the hold, when you kick it. It's all
gonna be different. So they worked out today and yesterday.
We won't work out the rest of the week. But
just yeah, we know it's a pretty high chance. It
(15:28):
looks like it's gonna be heavy, heavy rain, and I
think our team's up for that. They're excited and I
think they're gonna be prepared for that whatever environment they're
gonna be And we love the elements.
Speaker 1 (15:37):
We're ready for it. Let's go, Ready for the elements,
ready for the moisture, ready for the monsoon season down
there in Tucson, Arizona. What kind of weapon has Sam
Vanderhart been thus far for you this year.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
Yeah, Sam, Sam's playing at a really high level right now.
He's doing a great job. One of the top hunters
in the country as far as the punk goes. And
then just our pin punts once we get inside the
fifty and having him be able to pin an offense
inside the ten yard line, that's been a huge part,
you know, going back these last couple of weeks, he's
done a great job of that. But yeah, he's playing
at a really high level right now. I think right
now we're one of the few teams that hasn't allowed
(16:16):
any return yards on the punt team, and so we.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
Got to continue to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
And there will be a challenge this week because I
think they have two really good returners, so it'll be
a challenge and yeah, we'll see where it goes from there.
Speaker 1 (16:28):
I mean, that's insane, like the once again making special
teams elite and making it great again, right and making
it sexy again. No punt return yards in five games.
That's insane. Guy, that's an insane stat of the day.
It just is Marcus mackenzie doing work. Yeah, and you
got to give credit to the cover team, but also
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Sam for you know, putting it, you know, to you know,
doing his little rugby stock kick, holding on to it
as long as you can, and then boot booting it
out there. So shout out to the Speedsters. Marcus McKenzie.
I think Morty Bomba has been out there, Evan Johnson.
I can't remember who else has been on those punt recovers,
but just speedsters doing work and covering those ponts. Great job.
(17:16):
The team as a whole has been really good at
creating turnovers and not giving up turnovers. Right. What do
you attribute that to? K Pop?
Speaker 2 (17:24):
I just think the style of play that we're playing,
playing a little bit more man free, you know. I
think that's part of Coach Hill's defense, playing man coverage,
tight windows for quarterback staff to throw into pressure on
quarterbacks and making bad decisions.
Speaker 1 (17:37):
And then in emphasis, we emphasize.
Speaker 2 (17:39):
That every day. We do a turnover circuit every Thursday
to emphasize as we're going into the game.
Speaker 1 (17:45):
So there's a bunch of stuff that we do.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
But I think just the style of the defense that
we're playing and just the way Coach Hill emphasizes certain
things in meetings, I think just brings that alter reality,
I think we're on a similar pace interception wise. I
think we have seven interceptions in five games. That's exactly
where we were a year ago when we led the
country interceptions at the end of the season. So yeah,
I think our guys are confident in the defense, they're
executing the defense and that hopefully leads the more turnovers.
Speaker 1 (18:08):
So sacks are overrated. Iron Tas is what he loves.
Man free doing a little bit or man free on
the back end, Tighter windows and more difficult to maybe
thread the needle for these quarterbacks. AP thoughts seven to seven,
baby seven. It T's baby thus far. Yeah, I'll take it.
Speaker 5 (18:28):
I mean last year, I think they also had seven
interceptions through five games. So we talked about can b
why you replicate you know, the turnovers that they did
last year, and so far it seems like the scheme
it's not just a fluke like they're saying like that,
the pressure they're putting on making quarterbacks uncomfortable, everything it works.
Speaker 6 (18:48):
It's getting the job done.
Speaker 5 (18:50):
And so I think if you ask any BYU fan,
like we have this conversation like our sacks overrated, I
think you ask any any fan would you rather have
a sack or an interception, an interception every day, right,
Like I'd rather have one interception than two secs. I
think that's that's pretty easily more valuable to a team. So, uh,
it's it's it's for the first time in like b FEN.
(19:14):
This is kind of a funny thing. Like when Jay
Hill came to BYU, It's like BYU discovered defense, Like
we are so excited to watch defense play. Like that
is the attitude that fans have towards this game.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Like our defenses under Bronco were phenomenal. They were phenomenal
like SI.
Speaker 5 (19:32):
But it's like like the fan reaction, it's like.
Speaker 1 (19:35):
Twenty fourteen was not a good defense, yeah.
Speaker 5 (19:38):
But we're like wow, defense and so defense like we
love defense.
Speaker 1 (19:42):
It pretty crazy to see kind of the the role
reversal there though, with like the infatuation with defense now
with this coaching staff. And you got to give credit
to Jay, no doubt about it. You also have to
give credit to Garry Anderson for coming in as a consultant.
I think that's been beneficial. K Pop has been phenomenal.
Fione has been awesome. He's the the defensive pass coordinator essentially.
(20:05):
I can't remember what his title. Essentially defensive Passing game coordinator,
So shout out to all the coaches justin that is
a lot of former dcs on that defensive there's a
lot of d Last thing, what is your mentality like
k pop when you decide to run fakes on special teams? Yeah,
a lot of a lot of stuff.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
A lot of it honestly comes back to we don't
want to pressure. We don't want pressure happening on our
field goal unit or a punt. So if we can
show a fake and get them to soften up and
get get them in a safe look, then that takes
pressure off of the kicker, takes pressure off of the punter,
and so ultimately, at the end of the day, that's
what we're trying to do. And so yeah, we have
to have the right looks and the defense has to
(20:49):
show us the things that we like.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
And in that game, they gave us a look.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
We had practiced that field goal fake for three weeks
in a row, four weeks in a row, and they
happened to give us the look that we wanted and
we ran it and Sam executed and the guy's walk
well for him. And then if you guys like that
very next field goal. If you guys saw what happened. Uh,
West Virginia came out and a complete safe Look, they
only rushed three guys, which they never have done. And
so just taking pressure off of Will in those situations,
(21:12):
those fakes open.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
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justin Kirkland a little bit better, justin how are you
feeling being out there after being injured for a while.
It's been really good.
Speaker 8 (24:36):
It's a you know, I was thinking about this as
a new opportunity for me. I've never obviously never been
in this position where you know, you have a little
injury and then come back and so kind of having
the perspective of, you know, you can either be a
victim or be a winner and attack it and come
back and you know, get back to where you want
to be. So it's been really good to you know,
figure out who I am as you know, through an
injury and stuff like that, and maybe more of a
(24:57):
less like main role cast, you know, and supporting the
boys from sideline during fall camp, stuff like that. And
so now be out there on the field and laugh
with everybody again and watch everybody make plays. Man, it's
been phenomenal, super fun.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
He's what an answer. He's full of vigor and vim
this young man full of vigor and vim your thoughts.
Speaker 3 (25:13):
That's a great answer. Like you can, you know, be
a victim of it, like you can shoot. Like I
love how you described that. Hey, that's a great mindset.
Like I didn't expect that first question out of the gate,
you know of And maybe he's standing them, you know
as a veteran guy been but not so many guys.
You know, it's hard when you get hurt. You probably
may be sulked. But he said, now you can either
bounce back from it to be a victim of it.
I'm really impressed by that answer.
Speaker 1 (25:33):
No, man, don't be a victim. You know, grasp a
hold of your destiny and take it it's yours. And
Justin Kirklin is doing that right now. He's not sulking,
he ain't angry about it. He's got an attitude of gratitude.
Those that are most grateful in life are typically the
happiest in life. They find the silver linings, they find
(25:55):
the blessings in their lives. Now, Justin Kirkland, boy, do
you feel one hundred percent right now?
Speaker 8 (26:05):
It's a you know, it depends if we squat on
a Monday, you know what I'm saying, if we practice
after we go squat. So it does feel really good.
And I'm happy where I'm at. So we're just making
it happen.
Speaker 1 (26:14):
Getting stronger, getting stronger, feeling stronger. Justin he's probably not
a hundred percent, like, let's be honest, like he's I
don't know if he's gonna be one hundred percent all
season long. But Justin Kirkland at sixtet three forty five
at eighty five percent or so, he's a load. And
he's a good athlete and highly touted, highly recruited out
(26:36):
of the portal and BYU got him probably had to
pay a little the donors had to pay a little
bit of a pretty penny to get him in here
as a nil transfer right out of a P four
institution such as Oklahoma State. But I'm sure Justin Kirkland
is grateful that he's in Provo rather than Oklahoma State
right now because his coaching staff, the new coaching staff there,
he's not doing too well. Not doing too well boys
(26:59):
and girls, all right, Getting back to it, was there
any adjustment coming back and getting acclimated to the scene
there in Provo justin Yeah.
Speaker 8 (27:10):
It's ah, it is muscle memory a lot, like getting
on a bike. It's just kind of like a timeline thing.
Like when I came back, everybody was already six weeks ahead,
and so for me, I have been doing coach football
for a long time, but you kind of got to
go through the fall camps and stuff like that. And
so while everybody else is on like week week six,
we're on, but we had the three weeks of fall camp.
So I'm really on week three at fall camp where
they're on week nine potentially, So just trying to play
(27:31):
catch up. But Stoll be smart and safe about it,
and you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (27:35):
I mean, the good thing is is like when you're
not having to go through the grind of fall camp,
sometimes your body feels a little bit better. It just
can and even being limited in practice, it can be
a good thing, especially for a proven player, like once
you've proven yourself in the line of fire, in the
(27:59):
fog of war, under the lights, all of the lights, like,
you don't necessarily you got to keep your card, you up,
you gotta stay strong, you gotta get your weightlifting, and
you got to do your technique work. You gotta do that, Souff,
But you don't have to it necessarily. Always go live
at eleven on eleven, right, you don't have to go
get it, get after it in all your one on ones, Like,
we know what you're capable of. And I think he's
(28:20):
a proven entity. So you got to his health and
his well being and his availability is probably the most
important thing of all staying strong. Now, going back to
this last week's game, Justin was involved in that goal
line stand. A big part of that goal line stand.
Take us through what happened Justin on that goal line stand.
Speaker 8 (28:43):
And so I'm sitting there, you know, I'm looking at
the offensive guard too, and he's looking at me. So
I'm like, okay, here we go, man, me and you
one on one, you know what I'm saying. And then
they actually walked up to the line of scrimmage and
I was just like, hey, man, tell your coach, this
isn't gonna work. You know, get in their head.
Speaker 1 (28:56):
I'm just playing it.
Speaker 8 (28:58):
But yeah, and then they ran right at me, you know,
so I was like, heck, yeah, this is my favorite play.
My favorite playing college football is you know, fourth and
one on the one or third on one, you know
what I'm saying. And then yeah, one of our linebackers
came in smacked him and I was like, gokoks.
Speaker 1 (29:13):
So it was awesome.
Speaker 4 (29:17):
I would like to for it's gonna work, I would
like to formally petition b YU Athletics for a stand
up night with Justin Kirkland, like this is a funny dude.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
This is a funny, funny dude.
Speaker 6 (29:27):
Or can we get him miked up for the games?
Speaker 1 (29:29):
That'd be to get him micd up will be nice.
You know. That's the next thing. That's the next thing
that Brett Yormar is gonna do. I mean he's gonna
put a sponsor to that. Brought to you by Microsoft
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Speaker 4 (29:44):
Every every team has two players with a mic in
their helmet.
Speaker 1 (29:48):
This all state sound bite. You're gonna get what is
a sound bite? Dude?
Speaker 3 (29:56):
Perfect miked up Spotify perfect all brod perfec.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
Gotta be perfect partner with twelve. Yeah, what's the what's
the beef? Jerky? Like Trapper Trapper, Old old Trapper Turkey.
Speaker 4 (30:08):
I think Old Trapper is no longer a sponsor the
Big twelve. Oh man, they were a long time sponsored.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Bring him back for the sound bite some jerky anyway. Yeah,
he was a funny guy. He's funny. He's got some
he's got some jokes. Yeah, he's got some good quips.
He's got some good Uh.
Speaker 4 (30:24):
He had some really good moments here, which I think
you'll see another one coming up here.
Speaker 1 (30:28):
Would have made it even better if he wouldn't have
said just joking. Is like he looked at me, and
I looked at him, and I said, tell your coach,
this is not gonna work. I said that, you know,
I mean, it's a white lie, you know, but if
you do with a certain amount of poss is he seriouser?
Not serious? And but he never tells you. And that
would have made it, Like I think it would have
(30:49):
impacted me even more. I'm like, man, I wonder if
he really did that. I wonder if he really said that.
But like I'll be honest, like you're tired, Like I mean,
like Trey can talk a lot.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Say there's there's right people on the team who would
who I know, would say that because Tommy like, no, yeah,
you're not.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
It's not gonna both those guys are like long distance guys.
Speaker 5 (31:08):
There hundred guys. You know, it's like last year. I
would have thought, like someone like Connor pay would totally
say that you just straight up to the.
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, that coach, this is just not gonna work. He
would say, we're gonna move you out.
Speaker 5 (31:21):
The way, like Justin Kirklin is the defensive line a
little less serious than Connor was. Connor was very serious,
but Connor would say that I.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
Feel like, no, they most definitely you have to have
good cardiovascular strength in training to talk crap while you're
on like a long drive though, like you know what
I mean, like or or you're like coming in and
to spell somebody else and then you're talking trash. But
if you've been on the field, like sometimes it's hard
to talk trash. You're like kind of just like gasping
(31:50):
for air. Quite honestly, you.
Speaker 3 (31:52):
Can you can hear when the NFL has some guys
in my shout out to Trent Williams because he's an
offensive tackle that has cardiovascally and can talk ye talk drinking.
Speaker 6 (32:00):
That's not why Ben Krittle did the finger.
Speaker 1 (32:02):
Oh yeah, no, no, I'm I'm I'm like a dwarf.
I'm dangerous over short distances like that's where I'm at. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
I was. I'm not. I was not talking a whole
lot of crow. I would do the shush. I just
shushed him and that that was my trash talk. I
didn't want to expand any energy. It was actually his finger.
He's just wheezing like a shush. She's like, all right,
(32:27):
are you the type of guy justin Kirkland that would
like going up against the toush push? Dude?
Speaker 8 (32:35):
I love the touch push I Garrett, you know what
I'm saying. Like whenever you know, hopefully NFL is in
the future, stuff like that. Dude, You'll see me right
there at the bottom giggling of the touch push.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
Gosh, Hey, shout out to the Shout out to Kenny
Bine Beat the Spin.
Speaker 1 (32:56):
This was a good interview yesterday. You brought a good
guy in general. He's hilarious, he's best. What does coach
Pu Pu Pola.
Speaker 4 (33:05):
What's the what's the proper wave of saying it?
Speaker 1 (33:09):
I know, but it's no. But I was saying it.
Klan did way different than that week because we're like
poor poo Ha, It's not it's.
Speaker 9 (33:18):
Pull poor, I'm gonna ask I'm gonna ask him po Yeah,
So it's not Pooha, it's Poa do.
Speaker 1 (33:29):
Uh what does coach Poa do to get you guys
ready along the defensive line? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (33:36):
And you know, shout out coach. He's a phenomenal coach
on and off the field, and you know he has
experience in the in the NFL, So it doesn't get
any more top tier than that. And so when we're
back there, you know, studying how far I was the
running back compared to the tackles, and then we're looking
at like little things like uh, little keys that the
guards do fingertips hard on the ground. Is there is
this hill up when he's pulling stuff like that? And
so we really dive in, especially like this group and
(33:57):
by you in general are a little bit older. We've
been around the game for so long as it's like
you don't really have to cover uh, the basics, which
you still do at the beginning, but now in like, okay,
instead of inside zone, you know where the doubles are
coming from, It's like, okay, should we go back on
the guards, we go back on the center, you know,
so little stuff like that. And he's really good at
listening to what we want to do. And then you know,
we come our hair, we throw, we'd like mess around
with it and practice, see what works for everybody. And
(34:17):
then he is like completely accepted to putting us in
the best position possible to win. So phenomenal guy, phenomenal coach.
Speaker 1 (34:24):
Yeah, Sudi was a really nice pick up. And remember
he wasn't even coaching at the time. He had said,
you know what, I don't know if I want to
coach anymore. I think he was like a bishop or
state president, isn't he Isn't he like I think he's
he's a bishop. He's a bishop. I think he was. Yeah, anyway,
serving the Lord with all this heart my mind is
freanth within his community and uh and then Klanne called
(34:45):
him said, hey, I have a new mission for you.
He only got like a one year break, yeah coaching.
Speaker 6 (34:52):
Yeah, he wasn't out very long.
Speaker 1 (34:54):
And he said, you know what I mean, I.
Speaker 4 (34:56):
Think he might have still been teaching up at the
Institute at the university because he coached there. It started
out with with like the like the football religion class
they have a up at the institute, and I think
he just did like some part times just like extra
teaching up there as well. So yeah, he's very very
(35:17):
active man. And it's fai very spiritual man. By the way,
I need to correct myself, by the way, it because
you know what they called him up at the U
when he tackles, they called him coach bow coach bo
oh yeah bo yeah, not bo bo bo yeah, because.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
With a B.
Speaker 4 (35:39):
Yeah, So it's it's it's spelled with a P, but
it's like a really soft so it's more like a B.
Speaker 1 (35:45):
It's a little bit more. It's a little less closive.
All right, Okay, well that's a nerd coming out. Just
you know, we're gonna do our due diligen on this
and get down to that.
Speaker 4 (35:54):
I've got I've got that from the pronunciation guy at
the University of Utah, from both of his his playing
days is coaching days, and also from the New York
Jets pronunciation.
Speaker 1 (36:03):
There you go, Like I said, we get nerdy we
get you know you better, you bet you know what
they need to do. They do the.
Speaker 3 (36:13):
Exactly that's gonna be. That's gonna be quoting on your
page now. But no, they need they have players, do it,
bit of say their name. They need to have coaches.
Now do it that way.
Speaker 1 (36:23):
You just have the whole staff. So you just know that.
I just want to add that I agree with you.
Another one. What do you think justin Kirkland about the
potential for storms and rain on Saturday? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (36:36):
Yeah, I tell you what, if it's raining in Tucson
and I make a play, You're gonna see a penguin slide.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
You know what I'm saying. Yeah, I hope, so it'll
be a fun one. Wait, wait, what penguin slide?
Speaker 3 (36:48):
If he gets if he gets a sack or a stop,
he's like penguin slide.
Speaker 1 (36:52):
Like he's gonna I don't know if I've seen the
penguin slide. I need to see it. I need the
answer that you've.
Speaker 4 (37:00):
Never seen You never seen a penguin slide?
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, okay, that's the belly. Well there's that one year
it's the stomach. Yeah, yeah, it's like that. First the
first penguins there was a year when the Bears finally
won a football game. Come on, man, you didn't have
to do that, and.
Speaker 5 (37:16):
They just like their whole celebration was they did a
penguin say, it's like that, you.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
Need to do that. He could have just left that
out of it.
Speaker 6 (37:25):
It's the only time I could think of a penguin slide.
Speaker 1 (37:27):
What did you have to We don't need to catch
strings random Come on now, Penguins very notorious for that.
The question is going to get a fifty yard but
first it might be worth the butt first or the
stomach first. It could be it could be both. It
can be both.
Speaker 4 (37:40):
Look like cause penguins walk up and down icebergs a lot.
Speaker 1 (37:45):
Yeah, that's right. When they they'll just jump down.
Speaker 3 (37:48):
Okay, okay, So if he doesn't like that with the
mouth open, I need a helmet.
Speaker 1 (37:51):
I need him to open the mouth and do everything.
That would be pretty sweet. I mean he's in order
to do a penguin slide, I mean, even like with
as much water that would be forecast, you have to
get up some good top end speed the actual slide,
because I mean he could just stop. He's a big boy. Wait,
you know, if they have natural grass or turf. It's
(38:12):
natural gratural grass. Okay, so anyway, but you never know.
Speaker 3 (38:15):
He also he's gonna get a fifteen yard penalty with it,
so you got to make it look good.
Speaker 1 (38:18):
Yeah. Oh that's legit, Broe. That was the bad Yeah.
Speaker 4 (38:23):
Arizona Stadium is currently field for field turf vortex court.
Speaker 1 (38:27):
Wait, it's it's field turf now since twenty twenty two.
Speaker 6 (38:30):
Oh well, that's why they're a bad program.
Speaker 4 (38:33):
Since twenty twenty two. They took out the natural grass
in twenty twelve and put in field turf. Wait wait,
and then they updated it in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Oh okay, well there you go.
Speaker 3 (38:44):
So it's the new kind of turf, the extra I
hate turf, man. I don't like when they on turf,
and you know exactly why I don't. It's like it's
it's even worse though, because it's in Arizona. It's even
hotter that.
Speaker 1 (38:58):
I feel. It's smoking hot. It gets smoking hut.
Speaker 5 (39:00):
Maybe the rain, the rain might help you out in
the In that case, it might be better to have
rain than to have that hot of a field.
Speaker 1 (39:09):
Uh.
Speaker 4 (39:09):
There's a lot of talk about the tropical storm depression.
We've talked about a little bit on the show. We'll
talk about a little bit more here. That's going out
there undiscussed in the weather forecast is it's still projected
high of eighty six degrees.
Speaker 1 (39:23):
Oh my gosh, so a lot of so a lot
of rain bundles.
Speaker 4 (39:30):
Winter, yeah, not not not exactly, not exactly frigid either,
short leave shirt being from Chicago.
Speaker 1 (39:36):
Humidity anyway, been back deep justin Kirkland. The defense doesn't
have to prepare for rain as much. What has the
offense done to prepare for the rain? The moisture?
Speaker 8 (39:49):
You know sometimes like when we make a cool play,
we're in the huddle and we like splash water at
each other, and so we always think it's raining a
little bit. But you know how BYU is we're gonna
run the ball. You know, rain shines, know whatever. So
I don't know what they're doing over there. I hope
it rains. I think they hope it rains too. You
talk to the offensive line, they want to run the.
Speaker 10 (40:07):
Ball too, So everybody wants it to rain. I'm ready
to I'm ready to make a declaration. He's reminded East
and it's not fully, but he's given me like Connor
pay vibes on the defensive line like Andrew Peterson point out,
and a little bit of Koalani because Kolani likes to
crack some jokes here and there. The sarcasm is hilarious.
Hits like I he's great man. You need to have
(40:27):
him after a postgame or a halftime interview.
Speaker 1 (40:30):
Last thing from Justin Kirkland, the big man in the middle.
What makes this BYU defense so special?
Speaker 5 (40:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (40:40):
You know, I think, like you said, I've been on
a couple of great defenses, and I think something that
carries over from those defenses and these defenses is just
people willing to like sell out, fly around, hit people,
and so you kind of there's some of those guys
who are worried about their bodies. You know, we're Week six.
Everybody's banged up a little bit, and so you gotta
decide before.
Speaker 1 (40:57):
You come out.
Speaker 8 (40:57):
Am I gonna be a man? Am I gonna fly around?
I sign up to play this game, and so am
I gonna you know, reckless abandon and light my hair
on fire, go hit somebody? Or am I gonna be like, Oh,
my thumb hurts, you know, my obo hurts, my knee
hurts whatever, you know what I'm saying. So, yeah, you
watch these guys, even if you got a little bruise whatever,
everybody's still flying around. Everybody's still getting in there, finding
joy in the game. Like you watch the defensive line.
We'll take double teams. Everybody's laughing about it. So I
(41:20):
think we're all a little bit messed up in the head.
But you gotta be if you're playing football, you know.
All right, thank you, Yeah, thank you, Brett.
Speaker 1 (41:29):
All Right, that's enough, thank you, pretty all right, that's
enough question. No more questions for this guy.
Speaker 5 (41:35):
All right, Listen, we need more player interviews like this
because there's so many players that come out and you
just hear the same thing. It's like, oh yeah, guys
are flying around, they're you know, making plays. Meanwhile, Kirklin
is coming out, He's like, yeah, we're all a little
bit messed up in the head.
Speaker 1 (41:48):
You know, we're gonna do Penguins slides, probably get.
Speaker 3 (41:52):
A fifteen yard penal two, but he'll be worth it.
Speaker 1 (41:55):
He just doesn't care.
Speaker 6 (41:56):
He's just gonna say whatever, Yeah, it's the Conna pay
of the defense.
Speaker 1 (42:00):
Yeah, just gonna say how it is.
Speaker 3 (42:01):
It's just a little less serial less serious, you know,
more jokingly, but yeah, Connor's like, well, you're all idiots.
Speaker 1 (42:06):
He's a jovial, jolly h jolly old fellow and uh
we love him.
Speaker 6 (42:13):
He's most likely to be Santa Claus in his ward
when he grows up.
Speaker 1 (42:17):
No doubt he'd be a fantastic You hit it right
on the head, absolutely, indubitably, indubitably. That was justin Kirkland.
Ladies and gentlemen, you're big man in the middle along
that defensive line. The transfer from Oklahoma State, Utah Tech
and from Roy High School, the former teammate in high
school of Parker Kingston. Justin Kirkland and Parker Kingston repping
(42:37):
Roy the right way and repping the why the right way?
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