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Speaker 4 (00:39):
This time for little cougar byte action.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Gonna get into a SoundBite from Kolani Shatak, head coach
other BYU cougars. What makes bear Bachmeyer so unique? Are
we over hyping bear Bachmeyer prior of this twenty twenty
five season? Are we setting bear Bachmeyer up to fail?
Do we tend to get out, you know, put the
cart before the horse a little bit as BYU fans,
(01:02):
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we're gonna hear from Kiladi about what makes him unique
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Kalani hopped on with BYU Sports Nation earlier today. This
is what he had to say about the unique nature
of Bear Bachmeier.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I think from the beginning when he first signed with US,
there was a sense of urgency for him to learned
the entire offense, and and that's when he he assumed
that he'd be a back in a backup role and
fighting for a backup spot. We wanted to learn as
much as he could. But that never changed from day one.
And even when the when the situation changed, and now
(02:15):
he's battling for a starting spot that's always been there
since day one. It wasn't all of a sudden he
turned turned it up a little bit more because the
opportunity that came forth. He was he's always been the
same way since from the beginning and been you know,
a Rod and nine, and the entire team been really
impressed with how how easy it was for him to
grasp the offense. I mean, he's still he's still young.
(02:36):
Well he's a freshman, but a true freshman. But to
have someone that has that that focus on football and
that demand on the offense is impressive. I haven't been
around it myself. I mean, we've seen guys like Zach
Wilson that have come in here as true freshman, had
a spring and still had to work through some things
and and but I mean he's he's I mean, I
just I don't want to make any statements. Let's just
(02:57):
find out in game day and the benefit that we
have as we had to see it every day, and
so when we announced it, it's kind of like that was
the feeling, the general feeling that the whole building had. Anyways,
it wasn't like this was you know, this was basically
he was given a crowning moment. It was like, I think,
eventually you guys can see that that he here on
(03:18):
the spot. And I say that with McKay and Tason
and Emerson and Cole, all those guys getting better too,
So it elevated the whole room, the competition did. And
I mean I couldn't be happier with what we have.
We're better and deeper in the quarterback room that we
we were, you know, two months ago, and I feel
really comfortable going into the game with a lot of
your different guys.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, so hearing that, but hand the mic over to Brett.
Always bring the hammer. Brett Hammer, co host, host, social
media expert, former b YU TV sideline a border Are
we over hyping Bear Bachmeyer? What do you take away
from that particular comment from Kolani you know on b
YU TV earlier today, I think it depends on who
you ask, because if you asked me if I'm over
(04:01):
hyping bear Bachmeyer, I mean, Ben, I think we're under
selling bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Honestly, you go back.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
From collectively as a fan base as a media bay everybody, everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I think.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
I don't know about the fan base because I'm sure
it depends on who you ask. But I I don't
think we can properly rate how unreal it is that
this guy learned a playbook in two months Ben springball.
He was at a different college, he was not even
in the state, he had no intention of ever learning
(04:40):
the BYU playbook, and then he comes here learns the playbook.
We gotta I'm I want to ask around because I,
as a I imagine my high school playbook and learning
that when I was playing high school football is nowhere
near what it's like learning. And I didn't play quarterback either.
I want to know, like, what is the comparison for
the regular, everyday Joe learning, because that's the cliche, right,
(05:05):
that's the always the cliche as well, the true freshman
probably can't start because he doesn't know the system well.
Traycon Borget and McKay Hillson. They've just they've been in
the system longer. That's the cliche we always use. They've
been in the system, the system, the system. Okay, Well,
now I don't know that we're gonna talk enough because
(05:25):
we're gonna get into the season and Bear's gonna play
and he's gonna be whatever he is, and he's not
gonna we're not gonna use if he doesn't play, well,
we're not gonna use the excuse and say, oh, well,
you know what, he's a true freshman, and it's just
it's hard to learn the system. We're not gonna give
him that. We're gonna say, hey, you learned the job,
go out and play. And I'm sure he's gonna do great,
but I don't think we're gonna properly rate how unreal
(05:49):
it is that he overcame this cliche that everyone always
has to say about every true freshman, which is, well,
they don't know the system as much as the other guys. Well,
not only did he know the system him, he figured
it out, learned it in expert time, and then on
top of that, he makes good decisions. Aaron Rodericks said
five times in his interview yesterday, he throws a lot
(06:11):
of completions. He doesn't turn the football over. He turned
the football over. I mean, knowing the playbook less than
McKay and Trason threw less interceptions than anyone else, which
tells me he's not freaking out during practicing. Okay, I
gotta know that this route is here, in this protection,
we slide this way, okay, and then the play happens.
It's second nature to him. That's why he's not turning
(06:34):
the football over. Because to me, if he was struggling
and he didn't know the playbook that well, he would
be trying to force things just based off of pure
talent and maybe it would work out, but there would
be instances where it didn't. So to me, I think
this is going to be the most underrated, undervalued thing
about him. And also, it's not like he just learned it.
(06:57):
Aaron Rodericks said this in practice. I believe two weeks ago,
kid already knows the playbook already. Aaron Roderick used the
word brilliant to describe bear Bachmeyer. So, I mean, look,
we know, we know the kid got into Stanford, and
that's not like, oh, you got to be pretty smart.
You have to be otherworldly intelligent to get into Stanford.
(07:17):
Not only is he just a smart kid, he's he's
a smart football player. And I don't think we're gonna
be able to properly rate just how smart he is.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Paul of the day is the be OU fan based
underselling or overrating the capabilities of bear Bachmeyer as their
QB one.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You know, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
You know, before every single you know, true evaluation from
the collective fan base, where you know, media gets to
see limited you know, some bear Bachmeyer they've been able
to watch them.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
You get highlights, you get.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
To watch his high school film, you get a little
bit of a taste of who he is in the
environments in which he's competed it up to this point.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And maybe that's a that's enough.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You know that the fans actually got to go into
Lavelle Edwards Stadium about two weeks ago. Those that have
enough money to uh to to to buy certain uh
you know levels tiers of that Cougar Club accident, so
k Man Filthy Lucer can be had for good as
well access to watch bear Bachmeer throw the rock.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And everyone pretty much came out of that.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Donors, those that were in attendance saying Bear Bachmeyer's the guy.
Bear Bachmeyer's the quarterback. Bear Bachmeyer is going to be
QB one. And and I think the media from day
one has said the same thing. You know, there was
one time after about you know, two weeks McKay hill
(08:49):
staid was QB one in front of the media and he,
you know, he was running with the ones. Bear Bachmeyer
was running with the twos, maybe threes. And Bear didn't
look as comfortable, held onto the ball too long, tucked
and ran. To your point about not throwing interceptions, he
was not willing to just huck it up. He didn't
huck it up. He just tucked a round. He's like,
(09:10):
I'm six two two twenty five. I run pretty well.
I'm just gonna talk and run.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Watch this.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, first week they'll remember what did a rod say,
don't scramble?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yep, don't do it?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, he said, you're not allowed to. It's like the
rule of thumb. It's like wait a say wait, okay.
So Bear did throw a pick in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
He you know, he's hanging on to it, hanging on
to it through the pick.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Anyway, he changed the rules of the game and then
elevated Bear Bear ended up elevating.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
To a certain degree.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Whenever I'm talking about a true freshman and I'm setting
expectations of eight, nine, ten games to be won with
him at the Helm, and that like somehow he's going
to impact the wins, right, He's going to actually contribute
to the wins, not like how maybe Jake is perceived.
(09:59):
Jake lav last year is perceived as a guy that
just lost more games than he actually won BA football games, Right,
that that's the perception. I tend to lean to the overrated, Like, hey,
we may be overrating the impact of Bear Bachmeyer because
of the expectation. It's about expectation, about the threshold, Like
if ball eligibility is the expectation for Bear Bachmeyer, because
(10:22):
you know former four star five stars have done that
in BAU football history, I'm like, yeah, Like quota is
eight wins for a BYU football team. Anything less than
eight wins in totality with a bowl game is underachieving.
But I think the expectation for the entire fan base
(10:45):
should probably be just that whether you get to eight
wins in the regular season, go eight and four, or
you end up seven and five and you get to
eight and five in a bowl game, That to me
should be the dictation for this BWAYU football team as
it relates to bear Bachmeer being your QB one. I
(11:08):
don't think we should expect bear Backmeer to win US
football games this year, not like Max Hall won US
football games, not like John Beck won US football games.
Do you realize John Beck, a second round NFL draft
pick in a Mountain West Conference schedule versus eight to
nine win Utah University of Utah teams didn't win the
(11:32):
Holy War at Lavelle Edwards Stadium with the game on
the line, last play of the game. Couldn't do it
in overtime, couldn't do it double overtime two thousand and
six versus Boston College on the row, Matt Ryan a
nine win, almost ten win, top twenty five Boston College team,
he didn't win the game for you, and that's where
(11:52):
the team comes in, like I do not expect.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I don't expect bear Bakmeer to go out and win
football games, just like I didn't expect Zach Wilson to
make the right Deciason versus Boise State in twenty eighteen
on the goal line where he hang hung onto the
ball too long.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Okay, you're saying you're not expecting him to put the
entire team on his back football games you in the
most crucial moment like that, He's not gonna win games that.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Don't expect him to just win football games for you
like Trevor Lawrenceton on the back end of that Clemson season, like.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Your say, is going to take an entire cohesive effort.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
That's why I'm saying, like we may go in.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Superman out on his own, He's not gonna go throw
for darn your three hundred yards, rush for one hundred
and have three touchdowns and win you a game.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, I mean I heard saying, Yeah, that's I don't.
I don't expect that from Baron, nor do I we average.
I don't think that should be the expected. Can I
be honest with you? And you know so.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
At this point, you know this morning, you're Nework, and
I said, how about he could be like Avery Johnson
in the future, but he's gonna need a lot of looking.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
At Avery Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Are we consensus we think that Avery Johnson is one
of the most talented quarterbacks found percent of Kansas State
have a pretty good robust supporting cast.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
How many last year?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's right? Ye, that's even this freshman when he took over.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, okay, So what did Kansas State do last year?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
They ran the football, I know, But.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
What did they do as far as their wins and
losses are considered?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Were nine and four? Weren't they? With the bowl game?
Pretty sure they were nine and four?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Right, they were hovering around?
Speaker 7 (13:29):
Yeah, I think they were nine and four. They were
eight and four right in conference and then nine and four.
Fact check me on that, because they that bowl game
was like forty five to like or forty four to
forty one.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I'm pretty sure nine four exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And that's where the future NFL quarterback that's probably with
a dual thread ability.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
That's super unique.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Dual thread in the Big twelve, no doubt, and one of.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
The best in the college in college football.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, when you have like Kelly Pepinga is saying,
you know, he reminds me of Lamar Jackson the way
he runs. Yeah, like you know what I mean, Like
that's a special football player. So and even he didn't
like put Kansas State on his back, he made mistakes
he was on the road versus BYU crapped the bed,
he threw a pick to Tyler Batty, you know what
(14:12):
I mean. And so like, that's what I'm getting at here,
Like Abray Johnson is a supremely talented football player, bear
Bachmeyer is a very talented football player. Four star guy,
and I just don't want to put so much on
him that we're like, oh, he's going to lead us
to to ten win eleven win season. I don't if
we're going to ten eleven wins. It's because he's managing
(14:36):
the game. He's running the ball effectively, very effectively, and
he is moving the chains through the air, through the architecture,
and our defense is taking the ball away and our
special teams is playing the field position game when we
do go three and out with with our RB three
and RB four after LJ and Sion are taking spells
(14:56):
or getting deemed up.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And so like when we're talking under selling, over tell, underrated, overrated,
That's what I'm getting at here. Just want to you know, look,
I make player comps all the time. It's not like
I expect bear Bachmeyer to beat Tim Tebaw I'm saying
his body type and athleticism is like Tim Tebow. His
body type and athleticism reminds me of even Cam Rising.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That's what he looks like to me. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So we'll see what happens. But it's a debate. Chime
in on it. Want to hear from you, Cougar fans.
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Got off the line with double D in the last hour.
He's heard from a Cougar byte Klane talking all things related.
You know we're ten days away, Brett from kickoff, three
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days away from actual football Week zero. Iowa State, Kansas
State is super excited to be back. In general, we've
been waiting for this all off season. We got through it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
It was rough.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
I won't lie, I just when when now would by
you being in the Big twelve and with the talent
that they're getting. I itch for the season to start.
Love the offseason, Love seeing the recruits that they're getting.
Nomenal had most of them on talking love what Kalanie
is doing the BA football program. We already know what
bou basketball is doing again cooking, but it gets to
a point where you're.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Tired of the offseason and you want the real season.
I'm ready for the season to be here, and it's here.
I cannot tell you how excited I am. I want
to give a big shout out to Brett or Mark, ESPN,
everybody the fact that we get Iowa State Kansas State.
Here's the thing, ron like, those are two of the
top teams in the entirety of the Big Twelve. And
then not only do we get to see them early
(17:28):
in the season when everyone else is playing non con games,
we get to see them week zero ten am for
us here locally, and then College Game Day will be
on on a Saturday and I will have Kansas State,
Iowa State, a Big Twelve rawl on my television. And
all that tells me is, hey, seven days bear Bachmeer
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All right, let's get to it. Ben Critical caught up
with Tanner Wall, one of the safety starting safeties, free
(18:41):
or strong, it doesn't matter. T Wall will be on
the field August thirtieth, No doubt. Tanner waller guy. I
think that has an opportunity to play at the next level.
Let's hear from him being criticado with him.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
The other day we got Tanner Wall BYU Free Safety.
Tanner Fall Camp is essentially ending now, almost game prep time.
But how would you describe faul camp uh through the
three weeks that you guys have competed in and experienced.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Yeah, I think it's been a great camp for us.
A lot of competition. We've been able to you know,
get get a lot of reps in meaningful you know,
game like situations, had some good scrimmages too, So I think.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Overall, we've got a lot of great work in UH.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
As I said, we've been competing a lot, you know,
there's been a lot of great uh. You know, the
depth chart, I think has really started to solidify itself
in the way that guys have performed and how guys
are competing with one another on on both sides of
the ball.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So we've we've got a.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
Lot of new faces and young guys who've stepped up
and made some good plays and you know, really really
proven that they're guys who should be on the field
this year. You know, we've got a lot of veterans
who continue to show that, you know why they're the
leaders and the guys that you know are our core
parts of of our team. And we've been able to
you know, stay relatively healthy too, which is which is
(19:52):
really important going into the season, so we can just
hit it, run in and have as many guys available
to help us main games.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
How is it possible that this defense could be just
as good or even better than last year's defense with
some key players that you guys have lost.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
I think really what it comes down to is just
you know, mastering the scheme and you know, mentally, when
the game is just slow for us out there, you know,
we're able to know exactly where we need to be,
what we need to do, how we can sky certain things,
and then we kind of get to put our own
creative touch on it, right and you can kind of
play out there showing the quarterback what you want him
(20:29):
to see right rather than the opposite him, you know,
moving you or him manipulating you with you know, his
checks or his eyes. But you know, I think we
we we've been we've been working a lot on communication too,
and just focusing on before the snap, making sure you
know where we need to be. Everyone knows what their
assignment is and where they're you know, coverage or where.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Their man could be. So it's been it's been a
it's been a great camp.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
For us on that matter. But I think we're continue
to emphasize the same things that were focused on last
year that led to so much success for us, you know,
stopping the run, creating turnovers, exotic blitzes, and you know,
pressures that confused quarterbacks, and we've been executing.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That really well.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You made the move from wide receiver to free safety
I believe two years ago now, right, Yeah, and you
know you've transitioned and re caliberty.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
You did play defensive back in high school.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
I got a qualifier.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You did play some safety, and so it wasn't complete transformation.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
But where have you.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Improved over the last two years.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
That it has led you to become a team captain
and one of the leaders of this defense or playmaker
on this defense.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Yeah, I think I think the thing for me that
my teammates probably value the most in me is just
how consistent I am and doing my job and.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Executing my assignment.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
You know, they know that I'm a guy who's always
going to be in the right spots, who's gonna, you know,
do exactly what I'm supposed to do and not be
out of position, and so that allows them to them
then play with a lot of trust and confidence in
their job as well. In this defense. You know, kind
of the way it works, if someone doesn't do their job,
it kind of starts to fall apart. If someone tries
to do someone else's job, then you know, we kind of.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Get out of order.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
But when we when we're all doing our one eleventh,
I think that's something that you know, leads to it
to a lot of our success. But I think my
teammates and me just see a lot of grit and determination,
you know, in my journey. And you know how I
joined as a receiver as a walk on. You know
I has been a starter for two years as a
walk on and still just I'm an all in BYU guy.
(22:34):
Never you know, always wanted to be here and play
for Coach Kilane. I never wanted to go anywhere else,
and so just being bought into our culture and you know,
Coach Klane's vision and helping our guys understand that and
embrace that as well.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Do you remember when I think I first met you.
It was probably over a decade ago. Max Hall was
coaching here at the time, as I think as a
student assistant.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
I think I met maybe your dad and you you
were here at the practice.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You were this little little kid.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Old you were, but you're a grown man now. Do
you remember the year and what day that was? Do
you recall that being at practice here?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
I'm trying to remember when we I do remember meeting
you though, Yeah, we came out and I think it
was was it a spring ball?
Speaker 9 (23:17):
I think it was.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Yeah, I can't remember exactly what year that would have
been in, but it definitely was not of the same
stature as I am.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
Was it always a dreamy ers to play football at.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
B YU then? Absolutely? Yeah, grew up a huge, huge
YU fan.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
Went as many games as I could as anytime they
played east of the Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
We were there growing up in Virginia obviously, so the
East Coast games or anything out that way we would go.
But yeah, just I'd always.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Been my dream to come here, and you know, the
people I idolized growing up were Austin Colly and Jimmer Fordett.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Those were the guys and posters on my wall.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
So I'm glad I can be a figure like that
for the kids in the community and amongst our FAMI base.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Now, how long you came here as a walk on?
How long have you been a walk on? And when
will you finally put on scholarship?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:08):
That that transition, I guess from walk on to scholarship
is a little bit blurry timeline wise, just because we've
been able to, you know, have a lot of really
generous people and involved in that process. In Colony, you know,
has some great people close to the program who have
always helped out, you know, with with the walk Ons
(24:29):
and different things. Obviously, the BILLT. Bardier deal is one that, Yeah,
huge shout out to Nick Greear. I always always love
to mention him and how grateful I am, and I
know all the other walk Ons are to him for
his generosity. And then you know, there were some other
creative ways that we're able to help out some of
the walk Ons in that sense. But I know this
(24:51):
is the first semester starting right now that I'm officially
on scholarship. So grateful to be here and and to
you know, receive that kind of validation. But it's not
going to change anything in the way that I play
or prepare. You know, look at myself and as the
same player, I'm going to continue to do what I do.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
It's still a financial component, right and.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Being on scholarship, there's certain additional benefits outside of even
you know, the Bill bar deal or even nil from
advocates for those walk Ons.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
And so.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Once you got film out there, you became.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
A starter of two years ago a free safety you
had an injury that that shortened your your season, but
at that time you had a good film.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
You probably could have transferred, you know, P four independent schedule,
good film. Why continue to be a walk on it
by you?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
If you were already the starter, you had to wait
additional few years and become a scholarship player, why why
stick it out?
Speaker 8 (25:54):
I mean, I think really what it comes down to
is just loving playing for coach Klawney. You know, he's
He's a leader and someone that I believe in heavily
and will always be behind him and what he preaches
and how he coaches, you know, and just talking to
other transfers who would come here from other places, it's
very you learn very quickly how different the culture is
(26:14):
of college football at different institutions. And I'm just grateful
to be here as well as a bou athlete and
just know that it means more. It's something obviously that
I'd been dreaming and striving for my whole life. But
you know, we have a huge opportunity as as bo
athletes here to to mentor and to be out in
(26:34):
the community and connect with with people in ways that
I don't think you can do at other places, and
so I just love that that unique special nature of
BYU and what this community is and how the people
are so you know, excited and willing to give back
and help us student athletes.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So those relationships that I've been built have been super
valuable to me.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
And you know, just wanted to keep playing in Lavell
Dridge Stadium, you know, playing in that stadium for this
fan base, nothing beats it.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
What are you studying right now? What do you want
to get into even after poo?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But I know you want to take your talents to
the National Football League. You have a great skill set,
you can do that. But after football's done, what do
you want to endeavor?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (27:20):
And what skills and skill sets set do you want
to endeavor in?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (27:23):
So I So I got my undergrad in finance with
a emphsis in real estate done. I'm currently in the
MBA program, so I'm getting my master's right now.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm also in finance.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
So I've done a couple of internships with a real
estate firm, one with a energy oil and gas firm
just right here in Provo, and a transitioning I'll be starting
as an intern this fall at Pelion Ventures and draper
do some venture capital, So I would love to be
in that realm of private.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Equity venture capital.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
But I am, you know, really looking to just find
a you know, a niche and find something that I
feel my skill set fits really well where I can
contribute and just enjoy, enjoy life and have a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Going back to football, Who's who stood out to you
in fall camp from the offensive side of the ball
and the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Some of your teammates that highlight.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Him absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
On the offensive side of the ball, I've been extremely
impressed with l J. Martin just I think the transformation
he's had in his body and his speed this this
offseason is.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Very very noticeable.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
He I'm I'm really excited to see him, you know,
carry the ball against other teams and you.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Know, see those guys try to tackle him.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
I feel like he's gotten two or three steps faster too,
So some of those runs that he breaks, I think
he's gonna pick up a lot more yards or even
take him, you know, to the house. And I'm really
excited to watch him play. I think Sion Moa as
well as a guy who has had some really good
flashes during camp and saw the same thing from him
in the season last year. Has so much great potential
to be a great player for us, and I think
(28:56):
he'll be great as well. Cody Hagen. I think Cody
Haigan in he had a great scrimmage on Saturday, had
another great day today. So I think he's really finding
his place and and getting comfortable in our offense and
and and comfortable with his skill set. He's a super fast,
nifty receiver, so learning how to use that in you know,
(29:16):
the context of our offense. He's been playing extremely well
on the offensive on the offensive line. I'm not great
at evaluating O line talent, but I think uh, I
think Bruce Mitchell at center as a guy who continues
to prove why you know, why we love him and
why he's the starter, and you know why he's you.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Know, one of one of our leaders and in a
great player.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
And then on the defensive side of the ball, we've
had We've had a lot of young guys who have
really shown some great things. I think nuc Tama Paya
is the guy. Is a name that we need to
remember because he's gonna be a great player for us.
I think he'll make some great plays this year with
the reps that he gets.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
John Toma pay as well.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
So j T who was with this last season but
was a transfer from from Snow. He's gonna he had
a great scrimmagual on Saturday. Gonna be a great player
for us. And then Evan Johnson in the corner room
is looking really, really really good. Changed his number to
number zero, So don't be confused when you see number
zero out there.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
It's not Jay rob It's it's Evan and he's playing
really well right now. But really excited for all those guys.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
The quarterback competition, it sounds.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Like it's, uh, it's it's probably decided. Bear Bachmeyer looks
to be the starter. What have you seen from Bear?
Why do you think he earned the job competing against
McKay and Tracon.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
You know, I think I think Bear something something about
him that I think I've noticed. He makes really quick
reads and it's very decisive in his throws and what
he's trying to attack in the past game. I think
also he's gonna be a really solid runner for us too.
Obviously he's he's a big guy, probably gonna be pretty
hard to bring down. Some of his high school highlights
(31:00):
and seeing him, you know, run the ball. But I
think even though he's you know, fresh out of high school,
he shows a lot of poise, good leadership and commanding
the huddle, making the checks, getting guys lined up, and
you know, I think he's just going to be a
guy who's going to go out there and be a
gamer and find a way to.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Help us move the ball down the field and win games.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
Last thing, just because it seems like, you know, even.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
The changes in college football college athletics, a lot of
our focus tends to gravitate towards this paper.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Play model and nil and the money that you can make.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
How is it from your perspective that b YU has
been able to maintain its identity through these transformations into
college football college athletics landscape.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Yeah, I know, and I think we've done a great
job at managing that and making sure that we're not
just becoming as actionaal you know, in close meetings with
the leadership of our school, you know, specifically Keith Voarkink.
We have a leadership council that meets with Keith and
making sure that you know, we're managing that in the
right way and really sticking to our identity in who
(32:14):
we are. And you know, obviously in this landscape, you're
gonna have to in order to be competitive in recruiting
and in winning games. You know, we're gonna have to
adapt to you know, this this new this new world
of revenue sharing.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And we've got some other great.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Generous donors and people close to us, like the packs
guys are a huge resource for us and.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Allowing us to to get do a lot of great things.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
And we you know, we're we're gonna we're gonna continue
to get the guys here that want to be here.
You know, at the end of the day, recruiting players
to come here at by you they they know it's
a it's a different place, right, It's it's a unique place.
There's something about it here that is going to be
very different from other places. So we want to make
sure and recruiting that we're getting guys who want to
(33:01):
be here, right, And so we're not going to do
that by being the highest bidder, you know, just focusing
so much on you know, how much money can we
pay you. No, it's like, okay, we're going to help
you come here, develop as a person and all pillars
of your life, and you're gonna leave here on a
trajectory to succeed in whatever you choose to do, whether
it's football, you know you're going to succeed in your
family life, at church, in your in your workplace, whatever
(33:24):
it is.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You know that you're committing your time to you're going
to be better off.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
And Colonnie preaches that right and I've seen that firsthand
in the way that he interacts with the recruits and
their families too, and understanding. And a lot of the families,
like the parents are always like, oh, I want my
kids here. It's not all the time that the kids
want to be here, so they end up going somewhere else.
But the guys who want to be here, they know
why they should be here.
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Tanner Wall, ladies and.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Gentlemen, all right, a lot of good stuff from there.
We don't have a lot of time to get into
it all, but finishing, I guess on the high note,
guys that want to be here, Revsha rev Sharebviously, there
was an article that went out from the Solid Tribune
that Kevin Wills put people still think in regards about
the money situation all of that. Tanner Wall is a
guy that just said it himself, did not care about
(34:11):
how much he wanted to make Brett wanted to be here.
He's an all in BYU guy, he said. Kalanie's vision,
he said, I have posted of Austin Collegue, Jimmiferdad. Those
are the guys that I watched, right, That's exactly who
he wanted to be. I mean, it's a very smart individual.
It's a kid that's made the most of his BYU
career that it doesn't even look like he set himself
up to play at the next level like real estate, finance,
(34:31):
all of that. Like he's making the most of his
time here at BYU and I love you know that
fluent in Spanish and Portuguese, Like, I mean, yeah, he's
had family members that have played here, you know, on
going on served a mission, but to be in the
NBA to make the most of it. I think of him,
I think of Cody Ups, guys that were thinking about
their future rather than what's in front of them. That
really stands out to me, and sometimes that gets lost
(34:52):
in translation. A lot beloved that he brought all of
that up. Your takeaways from it.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Tanner Wall is the epitome of for the love of
the game. One of my favorite parts of the interview
was when Ben asked him.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Dude, it were great last year.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
You were all big twelve thirteen per College Football Network,
like he were great, why not leave? Or even before that,
like why stay a walk on? Why keep fighting? And
his answer was a little bit of what you said, dude,
I grew up with an Austin Colley and the Jimmer
Fredette poster on my wall.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I grew up loving BYU.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
To me, it almost felt like asking him why he
would leave is something that just never even occurred to him,
because he's like, why would I leave? I love this place,
I love being here. I'm just gonna stop doing something
because the money, says in his mind, it feels like
the money will come. I'll be fine. And he said
(35:53):
that the right He said, you know what, we've been
taken care of, which, okay, well you know what, Tanner,
you can be taken care of and maybe even be
taken care of on top of that little extra somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I love BYU.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I want to be a member of this community. I
want to mentors. By the way he talks to young
kids right and meets with them. Yeah, there is the
tanner Wall. I say this all the time. This is
why we love sports. Tanner Wall is one of those reasons.
Tanner Wall is one of the reasons why we love
sports because a guy's playing for the love of the
game and he's teaching others for the love of game,
(36:29):
doing all this just for the love of the game.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It was one of your co captains last year.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
With the twenty twenty four season, definitely think he'll be
a captain this year was all also all academic and
then co ed BYU with three interceptions.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
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This time for little cougar byte action.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
Gonna get into a SoundBite from Kolani Shatak, head coach
other BYU cougars. What makes bear Bachmeyer so unique? Are
we over hyping bear Bachmeyer prior of this twenty twenty
five season? Are we setting bear Bachmeyer up to fail?
Do we tend to get out, you know, put the
cart before the horse a little bit as BYU fans,
(01:02):
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we're gonna hear from Kiladi about what makes him unique
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Kalani hopped on with BYU Sports Nation earlier today. This
is what he had to say about the unique nature
of Bear Bachmeier.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
I think from the beginning when he first signed with US,
there was a sense of urgency for him to learned
the entire offense, and and that's when he he assumed
that he'd be a back in a backup role and
fighting for a backup spot. We wanted to learn as
much as he could. But that never changed from day one.
And even when the when the situation changed, and now
(02:15):
he's battling for a starting spot that's always been there
since day one. It wasn't all of a sudden he
turned turned it up a little bit more because the
opportunity that came forth. He was he's always been the
same way since from the beginning and been you know,
a Rod and nine, and the entire team been really
impressed with how how easy it was for him to
grasp the offense. I mean, he's still he's still young.
(02:36):
Well he's a freshman, but a true freshman. But to
have someone that has that that focus on football and
that demand on the offense is impressive. I haven't been
around it myself. I mean, we've seen guys like Zach
Wilson that have come in here as true freshman, had
a spring and still had to work through some things
and and but I mean he's he's I mean, I
just I don't want to make any statements. Let's just
(02:57):
find out in game day and the benefit that we
have as we had to see it every day, and
so when we announced it, it's kind of like that was
the feeling, the general feeling that the whole building had. Anyways,
it wasn't like this was you know, this was basically
he was given a crowning moment. It was like, I think,
eventually you guys can see that that he here on
(03:18):
the spot. And I say that with McKay and Tason
and Emerson and Cole, all those guys getting better too,
So it elevated the whole room, the competition did. And
I mean I couldn't be happier with what we have.
We're better and deeper in the quarterback room that we
we were, you know, two months ago, and I feel
really comfortable going into the game with a lot of
your different guys.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Okay, so hearing that, but hand the mic over to Brett.
Always bring the hammer. Brett Hammer, co host, host, social
media expert, former b YU TV sideline a border Are
we over hyping Bear Bachmeyer? What do you take away
from that particular comment from Kolani you know on b
YU TV earlier today, I think it depends on who
you ask, because if you asked me if I'm over
(04:01):
hyping bear Bachmeyer, I mean, Ben, I think we're under
selling bear Bachmeyer.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Honestly, you go back.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
From collectively as a fan base as a media bay everybody, everybody.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I think.
Speaker 6 (04:17):
I don't know about the fan base because I'm sure
it depends on who you ask. But I I don't
think we can properly rate how unreal it is that
this guy learned a playbook in two months Ben springball.
He was at a different college, he was not even
in the state, he had no intention of ever learning
(04:40):
the BYU playbook, and then he comes here learns the playbook.
We gotta I'm I want to ask around because I,
as a I imagine my high school playbook and learning
that when I was playing high school football is nowhere
near what it's like learning. And I didn't play quarterback either.
I want to know, like, what is the comparison for
the regular, everyday Joe learning, because that's the cliche, right,
(05:05):
that's the always the cliche as well, the true freshman
probably can't start because he doesn't know the system well.
Traycon Borget and McKay Hillson. They've just they've been in
the system longer. That's the cliche we always use. They've
been in the system, the system, the system. Okay, Well,
now I don't know that we're gonna talk enough because
(05:25):
we're gonna get into the season and Bear's gonna play
and he's gonna be whatever he is, and he's not
gonna we're not gonna use if he doesn't play, well,
we're not gonna use the excuse and say, oh, well,
you know what, he's a true freshman, and it's just
it's hard to learn the system. We're not gonna give
him that. We're gonna say, hey, you learned the job,
go out and play. And I'm sure he's gonna do great,
but I don't think we're gonna properly rate how unreal
(05:49):
it is that he overcame this cliche that everyone always
has to say about every true freshman, which is, well,
they don't know the system as much as the other guys. Well,
not only did he know the system him, he figured
it out, learned it in expert time, and then on
top of that, he makes good decisions. Aaron Rodericks said
five times in his interview yesterday, he throws a lot
(06:11):
of completions. He doesn't turn the football over. He turned
the football over. I mean, knowing the playbook less than
McKay and Trason threw less interceptions than anyone else, which
tells me he's not freaking out during practicing. Okay, I
gotta know that this route is here, in this protection,
we slide this way, okay, and then the play happens.
It's second nature to him. That's why he's not turning
(06:34):
the football over. Because to me, if he was struggling
and he didn't know the playbook that well, he would
be trying to force things just based off of pure
talent and maybe it would work out, but there would
be instances where it didn't. So to me, I think
this is going to be the most underrated, undervalued thing
about him. And also, it's not like he just learned it.
(06:57):
Aaron Rodericks said this in practice. I believe two weeks ago,
kid already knows the playbook already. Aaron Roderick used the
word brilliant to describe bear Bachmeyer. So, I mean, look,
we know, we know the kid got into Stanford, and
that's not like, oh, you got to be pretty smart.
You have to be otherworldly intelligent to get into Stanford.
(07:17):
Not only is he just a smart kid, he's he's
a smart football player. And I don't think we're gonna
be able to properly rate just how smart he is.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
Paul of the day is the be OU fan based
underselling or overrating the capabilities of bear Bachmeyer as their
QB one.
Speaker 4 (07:34):
You know, I feel like.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
You know, before every single you know, true evaluation from
the collective fan base, where you know, media gets to
see limited you know, some bear Bachmeyer they've been able
to watch them.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
You get highlights, you get.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
To watch his high school film, you get a little
bit of a taste of who he is in the
environments in which he's competed it up to this point.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
And maybe that's a that's enough.
Speaker 1 (08:06):
You know that the fans actually got to go into
Lavelle Edwards Stadium about two weeks ago. Those that have
enough money to uh to to to buy certain uh
you know levels tiers of that Cougar Club accident, so
k Man Filthy Lucer can be had for good as
well access to watch bear Bachmeer throw the rock.
Speaker 4 (08:25):
And everyone pretty much came out of that.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Donors, those that were in attendance saying Bear Bachmeyer's the guy.
Bear Bachmeyer's the quarterback. Bear Bachmeyer is going to be
QB one. And and I think the media from day
one has said the same thing. You know, there was
one time after about you know, two weeks McKay hill
(08:49):
staid was QB one in front of the media and he,
you know, he was running with the ones. Bear Bachmeyer
was running with the twos, maybe threes. And Bear didn't
look as comfortable, held onto the ball too long, tucked
and ran. To your point about not throwing interceptions, he
was not willing to just huck it up. He didn't
huck it up. He just tucked a round. He's like,
(09:10):
I'm six two two twenty five. I run pretty well.
I'm just gonna talk and run.
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Watch this.
Speaker 1 (09:14):
Yeah, yeah, first week they'll remember what did a rod say,
don't scramble?
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Yep, don't do it?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Yeah, he said, you're not allowed to. It's like the
rule of thumb. It's like wait a say wait, okay.
So Bear did throw a pick in the end zone.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
He you know, he's hanging on to it, hanging on
to it through the pick.
Speaker 1 (09:29):
Anyway, he changed the rules of the game and then
elevated Bear Bear ended up elevating.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
To a certain degree.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Whenever I'm talking about a true freshman and I'm setting
expectations of eight, nine, ten games to be won with
him at the Helm, and that like somehow he's going
to impact the wins, right, He's going to actually contribute
to the wins, not like how maybe Jake is perceived.
(09:59):
Jake lav last year is perceived as a guy that
just lost more games than he actually won BA football games, Right,
that that's the perception. I tend to lean to the overrated, Like, hey,
we may be overrating the impact of Bear Bachmeyer because
of the expectation. It's about expectation, about the threshold, Like
if ball eligibility is the expectation for Bear Bachmeyer, because
(10:22):
you know former four star five stars have done that
in BAU football history, I'm like, yeah, Like quota is
eight wins for a BYU football team. Anything less than
eight wins in totality with a bowl game is underachieving.
But I think the expectation for the entire fan base
(10:45):
should probably be just that whether you get to eight
wins in the regular season, go eight and four, or
you end up seven and five and you get to
eight and five in a bowl game, That to me
should be the dictation for this BWAYU football team as
it relates to bear Bachmeer being your QB one. I
(11:08):
don't think we should expect bear Backmeer to win US
football games this year, not like Max Hall won US
football games, not like John Beck won US football games.
Do you realize John Beck, a second round NFL draft
pick in a Mountain West Conference schedule versus eight to
nine win Utah University of Utah teams didn't win the
(11:32):
Holy War at Lavelle Edwards Stadium with the game on
the line, last play of the game. Couldn't do it
in overtime, couldn't do it double overtime two thousand and
six versus Boston College on the row, Matt Ryan a
nine win, almost ten win, top twenty five Boston College team,
he didn't win the game for you, and that's where
(11:52):
the team comes in, like I do not expect.
Speaker 4 (11:55):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (11:55):
I don't expect bear Bakmeer to go out and win
football games, just like I didn't expect Zach Wilson to
make the right Deciason versus Boise State in twenty eighteen
on the goal line where he hang hung onto the
ball too long.
Speaker 6 (12:07):
Okay, you're saying you're not expecting him to put the
entire team on his back football games you in the
most crucial moment like that, He's not gonna win games that.
Speaker 1 (12:18):
Don't expect him to just win football games for you
like Trevor Lawrenceton on the back end of that Clemson season, like.
Speaker 2 (12:25):
Your say, is going to take an entire cohesive effort.
Speaker 4 (12:27):
That's why I'm saying, like we may go in.
Speaker 6 (12:29):
Superman out on his own, He's not gonna go throw
for darn your three hundred yards, rush for one hundred
and have three touchdowns and win you a game.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
Yeah, I mean I heard saying, Yeah, that's I don't.
I don't expect that from Baron, nor do I we average.
I don't think that should be the expected. Can I
be honest with you? And you know so.
Speaker 7 (12:46):
At this point, you know this morning, you're Nework, and
I said, how about he could be like Avery Johnson
in the future, but he's gonna need a lot of looking.
Speaker 4 (12:56):
At Avery Johnson.
Speaker 1 (12:57):
Are we consensus we think that Avery Johnson is one
of the most talented quarterbacks found percent of Kansas State
have a pretty good robust supporting cast.
Speaker 4 (13:08):
How many last year?
Speaker 2 (13:10):
That's right? Ye, that's even this freshman when he took over.
Speaker 4 (13:13):
Yeah, okay, So what did Kansas State do last year?
Speaker 2 (13:16):
They ran the football, I know, But.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
What did they do as far as their wins and
losses are considered?
Speaker 2 (13:22):
Were nine and four? Weren't they? With the bowl game?
Pretty sure they were nine and four?
Speaker 4 (13:26):
Right, they were hovering around?
Speaker 7 (13:29):
Yeah, I think they were nine and four. They were
eight and four right in conference and then nine and four.
Fact check me on that, because they that bowl game
was like forty five to like or forty four to
forty one.
Speaker 2 (13:38):
I'm pretty sure nine four exactly.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
And that's where the future NFL quarterback that's probably with
a dual thread ability.
Speaker 4 (13:45):
That's super unique.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Dual thread in the Big twelve, no doubt, and one of.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
The best in the college in college football.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
I mean, when you have like Kelly Pepinga is saying,
you know, he reminds me of Lamar Jackson the way
he runs. Yeah, like you know what I mean, Like
that's a special football player. So and even he didn't
like put Kansas State on his back, he made mistakes
he was on the road versus BYU crapped the bed,
he threw a pick to Tyler Batty, you know what
(14:12):
I mean. And so like, that's what I'm getting at here,
Like Abray Johnson is a supremely talented football player, bear
Bachmeyer is a very talented football player. Four star guy,
and I just don't want to put so much on
him that we're like, oh, he's going to lead us
to to ten win eleven win season. I don't if
we're going to ten eleven wins. It's because he's managing
(14:36):
the game. He's running the ball effectively, very effectively, and
he is moving the chains through the air, through the architecture,
and our defense is taking the ball away and our
special teams is playing the field position game when we
do go three and out with with our RB three
and RB four after LJ and Sion are taking spells
(14:56):
or getting deemed up.
Speaker 4 (14:57):
That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (14:58):
And so like when we're talking under selling, over tell, underrated, overrated,
That's what I'm getting at here. Just want to you know, look,
I make player comps all the time. It's not like
I expect bear Bachmeyer to beat Tim Tebaw I'm saying
his body type and athleticism is like Tim Tebow. His
body type and athleticism reminds me of even Cam Rising.
Speaker 2 (15:19):
That's what he looks like to me. Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
So we'll see what happens. But it's a debate. Chime
in on it. Want to hear from you, Cougar fans.
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Has Ben Crito stepped out for a moment, He will
be back momentarily, gonna get into a little player profile segment.
Got off the line with double D in the last hour.
He's heard from a Cougar byte Klane talking all things related.
You know we're ten days away, Brett from kickoff, three
(16:37):
days away from actual football Week zero. Iowa State, Kansas
State is super excited to be back. In general, we've
been waiting for this all off season. We got through it.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
It was rough.
Speaker 7 (16:48):
I won't lie, I just when when now would by
you being in the Big twelve and with the talent
that they're getting. I itch for the season to start.
Love the offseason, Love seeing the recruits that they're getting.
Nomenal had most of them on talking love what Kalanie
is doing the BA football program. We already know what
bou basketball is doing again cooking, but it gets to
a point where you're.
Speaker 6 (17:07):
Tired of the offseason and you want the real season.
I'm ready for the season to be here, and it's here.
I cannot tell you how excited I am. I want
to give a big shout out to Brett or Mark, ESPN,
everybody the fact that we get Iowa State Kansas State.
Here's the thing, ron like, those are two of the
top teams in the entirety of the Big Twelve. And
then not only do we get to see them early
(17:28):
in the season when everyone else is playing non con games,
we get to see them week zero ten am for
us here locally, and then College Game Day will be
on on a Saturday and I will have Kansas State,
Iowa State, a Big Twelve rawl on my television. And
all that tells me is, hey, seven days bear Bachmeer
(17:50):
Kalanie Sataki, the BYU Cougar's getting ready for Portland State.
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All right, let's get to it. Ben Critical caught up
with Tanner Wall, one of the safety starting safeties, free
(18:41):
or strong, it doesn't matter. T Wall will be on
the field August thirtieth, No doubt. Tanner waller guy. I
think that has an opportunity to play at the next level.
Let's hear from him being criticado with him.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
The other day we got Tanner Wall BYU Free Safety.
Tanner Fall Camp is essentially ending now, almost game prep time.
But how would you describe faul camp uh through the
three weeks that you guys have competed in and experienced.
Speaker 8 (19:05):
Yeah, I think it's been a great camp for us.
A lot of competition. We've been able to you know,
get get a lot of reps in meaningful you know,
game like situations, had some good scrimmages too, So I think.
Speaker 3 (19:15):
Overall, we've got a lot of great work in UH.
Speaker 8 (19:18):
As I said, we've been competing a lot, you know,
there's been a lot of great uh. You know, the
depth chart, I think has really started to solidify itself
in the way that guys have performed and how guys
are competing with one another on on both sides of
the ball.
Speaker 3 (19:30):
So we've we've got a.
Speaker 8 (19:31):
Lot of new faces and young guys who've stepped up
and made some good plays and you know, really really
proven that they're guys who should be on the field
this year. You know, we've got a lot of veterans
who continue to show that, you know why they're the
leaders and the guys that you know are our core
parts of of our team. And we've been able to
you know, stay relatively healthy too, which is which is
(19:52):
really important going into the season, so we can just
hit it, run in and have as many guys available
to help us main games.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
How is it possible that this defense could be just
as good or even better than last year's defense with
some key players that you guys have lost.
Speaker 8 (20:07):
I think really what it comes down to is just
you know, mastering the scheme and you know, mentally, when
the game is just slow for us out there, you know,
we're able to know exactly where we need to be,
what we need to do, how we can sky certain things,
and then we kind of get to put our own
creative touch on it, right and you can kind of
play out there showing the quarterback what you want him
(20:29):
to see right rather than the opposite him, you know,
moving you or him manipulating you with you know, his
checks or his eyes. But you know, I think we
we we've been we've been working a lot on communication too,
and just focusing on before the snap, making sure you
know where we need to be. Everyone knows what their
assignment is and where they're you know, coverage or where.
Speaker 3 (20:51):
Their man could be. So it's been it's been a
it's been a great camp.
Speaker 8 (20:55):
For us on that matter. But I think we're continue
to emphasize the same things that were focused on last
year that led to so much success for us, you know,
stopping the run, creating turnovers, exotic blitzes, and you know,
pressures that confused quarterbacks, and we've been executing.
Speaker 3 (21:13):
That really well.
Speaker 1 (21:14):
You made the move from wide receiver to free safety
I believe two years ago now, right, Yeah, and you
know you've transitioned and re caliberty.
Speaker 4 (21:26):
You did play defensive back in high school.
Speaker 9 (21:27):
I got a qualifier.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
You did play some safety, and so it wasn't complete transformation.
Speaker 4 (21:32):
But where have you.
Speaker 9 (21:33):
Improved over the last two years.
Speaker 1 (21:36):
That it has led you to become a team captain
and one of the leaders of this defense or playmaker
on this defense.
Speaker 8 (21:41):
Yeah, I think I think the thing for me that
my teammates probably value the most in me is just
how consistent I am and doing my job and.
Speaker 3 (21:48):
Executing my assignment.
Speaker 8 (21:50):
You know, they know that I'm a guy who's always
going to be in the right spots, who's gonna, you know,
do exactly what I'm supposed to do and not be
out of position, and so that allows them to them
then play with a lot of trust and confidence in
their job as well. In this defense. You know, kind
of the way it works, if someone doesn't do their job,
it kind of starts to fall apart. If someone tries
to do someone else's job, then you know, we kind of.
Speaker 3 (22:11):
Get out of order.
Speaker 8 (22:13):
But when we when we're all doing our one eleventh,
I think that's something that you know, leads to it
to a lot of our success. But I think my
teammates and me just see a lot of grit and determination,
you know, in my journey. And you know how I
joined as a receiver as a walk on. You know
I has been a starter for two years as a
walk on and still just I'm an all in BYU guy.
(22:34):
Never you know, always wanted to be here and play
for Coach Kilane. I never wanted to go anywhere else,
and so just being bought into our culture and you know,
Coach Klane's vision and helping our guys understand that and
embrace that as well.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Do you remember when I think I first met you.
It was probably over a decade ago. Max Hall was
coaching here at the time, as I think as a
student assistant.
Speaker 9 (22:56):
I think I met maybe your dad and you you
were here at the practice.
Speaker 4 (22:59):
You were this little little kid.
Speaker 9 (23:02):
I don't know how.
Speaker 1 (23:02):
Old you were, but you're a grown man now. Do
you remember the year and what day that was? Do
you recall that being at practice here?
Speaker 8 (23:10):
I'm trying to remember when we I do remember meeting
you though, Yeah, we came out and I think it
was was it a spring ball?
Speaker 9 (23:17):
I think it was.
Speaker 8 (23:18):
Yeah, I can't remember exactly what year that would have
been in, but it definitely was not of the same
stature as I am.
Speaker 9 (23:25):
Was it always a dreamy ers to play football at.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
B YU then? Absolutely? Yeah, grew up a huge, huge
YU fan.
Speaker 8 (23:33):
Went as many games as I could as anytime they
played east of the Mississippi.
Speaker 3 (23:38):
We were there growing up in Virginia obviously, so the
East Coast games or anything out that way we would go.
But yeah, just I'd always.
Speaker 8 (23:45):
Been my dream to come here, and you know, the
people I idolized growing up were Austin Colly and Jimmer Fordett.
Speaker 3 (23:51):
Those were the guys and posters on my wall.
Speaker 8 (23:54):
So I'm glad I can be a figure like that
for the kids in the community and amongst our FAMI base.
Speaker 9 (23:59):
Now, how long you came here as a walk on?
How long have you been a walk on? And when
will you finally put on scholarship?
Speaker 3 (24:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (24:08):
That that transition, I guess from walk on to scholarship
is a little bit blurry timeline wise, just because we've
been able to, you know, have a lot of really
generous people and involved in that process. In Colony, you know,
has some great people close to the program who have
always helped out, you know, with with the walk Ons
(24:29):
and different things. Obviously, the BILLT. Bardier deal is one that, Yeah,
huge shout out to Nick Greear. I always always love
to mention him and how grateful I am, and I
know all the other walk Ons are to him for
his generosity. And then you know, there were some other
creative ways that we're able to help out some of
the walk Ons in that sense. But I know this
(24:51):
is the first semester starting right now that I'm officially
on scholarship. So grateful to be here and and to
you know, receive that kind of validation. But it's not
going to change anything in the way that I play
or prepare. You know, look at myself and as the
same player, I'm going to continue to do what I do.
Speaker 9 (25:12):
It's still a financial component, right and.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
Being on scholarship, there's certain additional benefits outside of even
you know, the Bill bar deal or even nil from
advocates for those walk Ons.
Speaker 5 (25:25):
And so.
Speaker 9 (25:27):
Once you got film out there, you became.
Speaker 1 (25:29):
A starter of two years ago a free safety you
had an injury that that shortened your your season, but
at that time you had a good film.
Speaker 9 (25:36):
You probably could have transferred, you know, P four independent schedule,
good film. Why continue to be a walk on it
by you?
Speaker 1 (25:45):
If you were already the starter, you had to wait
additional few years and become a scholarship player, why why
stick it out?
Speaker 8 (25:54):
I mean, I think really what it comes down to
is just loving playing for coach Klawney. You know, he's
He's a leader and someone that I believe in heavily
and will always be behind him and what he preaches
and how he coaches, you know, and just talking to
other transfers who would come here from other places, it's
very you learn very quickly how different the culture is
(26:14):
of college football at different institutions. And I'm just grateful
to be here as well as a bou athlete and
just know that it means more. It's something obviously that
I'd been dreaming and striving for my whole life. But
you know, we have a huge opportunity as as bo
athletes here to to mentor and to be out in
(26:34):
the community and connect with with people in ways that
I don't think you can do at other places, and
so I just love that that unique special nature of
BYU and what this community is and how the people
are so you know, excited and willing to give back
and help us student athletes.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
So those relationships that I've been built have been super
valuable to me.
Speaker 8 (26:59):
And you know, just wanted to keep playing in Lavell
Dridge Stadium, you know, playing in that stadium for this
fan base, nothing beats it.
Speaker 9 (27:08):
What are you studying right now? What do you want
to get into even after poo?
Speaker 1 (27:10):
But I know you want to take your talents to
the National Football League. You have a great skill set,
you can do that. But after football's done, what do
you want to endeavor?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 9 (27:20):
And what skills and skill sets set do you want
to endeavor in?
Speaker 3 (27:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (27:23):
So I So I got my undergrad in finance with
a emphsis in real estate done. I'm currently in the
MBA program, so I'm getting my master's right now.
Speaker 3 (27:32):
I'm also in finance.
Speaker 8 (27:35):
So I've done a couple of internships with a real
estate firm, one with a energy oil and gas firm
just right here in Provo, and a transitioning I'll be starting
as an intern this fall at Pelion Ventures and draper
do some venture capital, So I would love to be
in that realm of private.
Speaker 3 (27:51):
Equity venture capital.
Speaker 8 (27:53):
But I am, you know, really looking to just find
a you know, a niche and find something that I
feel my skill set fits really well where I can
contribute and just enjoy, enjoy life and have a lot
of fun.
Speaker 1 (28:06):
Going back to football, Who's who stood out to you
in fall camp from the offensive side of the ball
and the defensive side of the ball.
Speaker 9 (28:12):
Some of your teammates that highlight.
Speaker 3 (28:14):
Him absolutely, Yeah.
Speaker 8 (28:15):
On the offensive side of the ball, I've been extremely
impressed with l J. Martin just I think the transformation
he's had in his body and his speed this this
offseason is.
Speaker 3 (28:24):
Very very noticeable.
Speaker 8 (28:26):
He I'm I'm really excited to see him, you know,
carry the ball against other teams and you.
Speaker 3 (28:32):
Know, see those guys try to tackle him.
Speaker 8 (28:34):
I feel like he's gotten two or three steps faster too,
So some of those runs that he breaks, I think
he's gonna pick up a lot more yards or even
take him, you know, to the house. And I'm really
excited to watch him play. I think Sion Moa as
well as a guy who has had some really good
flashes during camp and saw the same thing from him
in the season last year. Has so much great potential
to be a great player for us, and I think
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he'll be great as well. Cody Hagen. I think Cody
Haigan in he had a great scrimmage on Saturday, had
another great day today. So I think he's really finding
his place and and getting comfortable in our offense and
and and comfortable with his skill set. He's a super fast,
nifty receiver, so learning how to use that in you know,
(29:16):
the context of our offense. He's been playing extremely well
on the offensive on the offensive line. I'm not great
at evaluating O line talent, but I think uh, I
think Bruce Mitchell at center as a guy who continues
to prove why you know, why we love him and
why he's the starter, and you know why he's you.
Speaker 3 (29:40):
Know, one of one of our leaders and in a
great player.
Speaker 8 (29:43):
And then on the defensive side of the ball, we've
had We've had a lot of young guys who have
really shown some great things. I think nuc Tama Paya
is the guy. Is a name that we need to
remember because he's gonna be a great player for us.
I think he'll make some great plays this year with
the reps that he gets.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
John Toma pay as well.
Speaker 8 (30:00):
So j T who was with this last season but
was a transfer from from Snow. He's gonna he had
a great scrimmagual on Saturday. Gonna be a great player
for us. And then Evan Johnson in the corner room
is looking really, really really good. Changed his number to
number zero, So don't be confused when you see number
zero out there.
Speaker 3 (30:18):
It's not Jay rob It's it's Evan and he's playing
really well right now. But really excited for all those guys.
Speaker 9 (30:24):
The quarterback competition, it sounds.
Speaker 1 (30:25):
Like it's, uh, it's it's probably decided. Bear Bachmeyer looks
to be the starter. What have you seen from Bear?
Why do you think he earned the job competing against
McKay and Tracon.
Speaker 8 (30:37):
You know, I think I think Bear something something about
him that I think I've noticed. He makes really quick
reads and it's very decisive in his throws and what
he's trying to attack in the past game. I think
also he's gonna be a really solid runner for us too.
Obviously he's he's a big guy, probably gonna be pretty
hard to bring down. Some of his high school highlights
(31:00):
and seeing him, you know, run the ball. But I
think even though he's you know, fresh out of high school,
he shows a lot of poise, good leadership and commanding
the huddle, making the checks, getting guys lined up, and
you know, I think he's just going to be a
guy who's going to go out there and be a
gamer and find a way to.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
Help us move the ball down the field and win games.
Speaker 9 (31:22):
Last thing, just because it seems like, you know, even.
Speaker 1 (31:28):
The changes in college football college athletics, a lot of
our focus tends to gravitate towards this paper.
Speaker 9 (31:37):
Play model and nil and the money that you can make.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
How is it from your perspective that b YU has
been able to maintain its identity through these transformations into
college football college athletics landscape.
Speaker 8 (31:53):
Yeah, I know, and I think we've done a great
job at managing that and making sure that we're not
just becoming as actionaal you know, in close meetings with
the leadership of our school, you know, specifically Keith Voarkink.
We have a leadership council that meets with Keith and
making sure that you know, we're managing that in the
right way and really sticking to our identity in who
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we are. And you know, obviously in this landscape, you're
gonna have to in order to be competitive in recruiting
and in winning games. You know, we're gonna have to
adapt to you know, this this new this new world
of revenue sharing.
Speaker 3 (32:28):
And we've got some other great.
Speaker 8 (32:33):
Generous donors and people close to us, like the packs
guys are a huge resource for us and.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
Allowing us to to get do a lot of great things.
Speaker 8 (32:41):
And we you know, we're we're gonna we're gonna continue
to get the guys here that want to be here.
You know, at the end of the day, recruiting players
to come here at by you they they know it's
a it's a different place, right, It's it's a unique place.
There's something about it here that is going to be
very different from other places. So we want to make
sure and recruiting that we're getting guys who want to
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be here, right, And so we're not going to do
that by being the highest bidder, you know, just focusing
so much on you know, how much money can we
pay you. No, it's like, okay, we're going to help
you come here, develop as a person and all pillars
of your life, and you're gonna leave here on a
trajectory to succeed in whatever you choose to do, whether
it's football, you know you're going to succeed in your
family life, at church, in your in your workplace, whatever
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it is.
Speaker 3 (33:25):
You know that you're committing your time to you're going
to be better off.
Speaker 8 (33:29):
And Colonnie preaches that right and I've seen that firsthand
in the way that he interacts with the recruits and
their families too, and understanding. And a lot of the families,
like the parents are always like, oh, I want my
kids here. It's not all the time that the kids
want to be here, so they end up going somewhere else.
But the guys who want to be here, they know
why they should be here.
Speaker 9 (33:47):
Tanner Wall, ladies and.
Speaker 7 (33:48):
Gentlemen, all right, a lot of good stuff from there.
We don't have a lot of time to get into
it all, but finishing, I guess on the high note,
guys that want to be here, Revsha rev Sharebviously, there
was an article that went out from the Solid Tribune
that Kevin Wills put people still think in regards about
the money situation all of that. Tanner Wall is a
guy that just said it himself, did not care about
(34:11):
how much he wanted to make Brett wanted to be here.
He's an all in BYU guy, he said. Kalanie's vision,
he said, I have posted of Austin Collegue, Jimmiferdad. Those
are the guys that I watched, right, That's exactly who
he wanted to be. I mean, it's a very smart individual.
It's a kid that's made the most of his BYU
career that it doesn't even look like he set himself
up to play at the next level like real estate, finance,
(34:31):
all of that. Like he's making the most of his
time here at BYU and I love you know that
fluent in Spanish and Portuguese, Like, I mean, yeah, he's
had family members that have played here, you know, on
going on served a mission, but to be in the
NBA to make the most of it. I think of him,
I think of Cody Ups, guys that were thinking about
their future rather than what's in front of them. That
really stands out to me, and sometimes that gets lost
(34:52):
in translation. A lot beloved that he brought all of
that up. Your takeaways from it.
Speaker 6 (34:58):
Tanner Wall is the epitome of for the love of
the game. One of my favorite parts of the interview
was when Ben asked him.
Speaker 2 (35:08):
Dude, it were great last year.
Speaker 6 (35:11):
You were all big twelve thirteen per College Football Network,
like he were great, why not leave? Or even before that,
like why stay a walk on? Why keep fighting? And
his answer was a little bit of what you said, dude,
I grew up with an Austin Colley and the Jimmer
Fredette poster on my wall.
Speaker 2 (35:30):
I grew up loving BYU.
Speaker 6 (35:32):
To me, it almost felt like asking him why he
would leave is something that just never even occurred to him,
because he's like, why would I leave? I love this place,
I love being here. I'm just gonna stop doing something
because the money, says in his mind, it feels like
the money will come. I'll be fine. And he said
(35:53):
that the right He said, you know what, we've been
taken care of, which, okay, well you know what, Tanner,
you can be taken care of and maybe even be
taken care of on top of that little extra somewhere else.
Speaker 2 (36:05):
I love BYU.
Speaker 6 (36:07):
I want to be a member of this community. I
want to mentors. By the way he talks to young
kids right and meets with them. Yeah, there is the
tanner Wall. I say this all the time. This is
why we love sports. Tanner Wall is one of those reasons.
Tanner Wall is one of the reasons why we love
sports because a guy's playing for the love of the
game and he's teaching others for the love of game,
(36:29):
doing all this just for the love of the game.
Speaker 2 (36:32):
It was one of your co captains last year.
Speaker 7 (36:34):
With the twenty twenty four season, definitely think he'll be
a captain this year was all also all academic and
then co ed BYU with three interceptions.
Speaker 2 (36:42):
Shout out to t Wall.
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That's right.
Speaker 7 (37:23):
Tell him my censure. We'll go to break, don't go anywhere.
Still a lot to get to after this. John Beck,
the quarterback Guru, will be joining us. Ben critil we
back in the studio. You're listening to Googer Sports right
here on one O, three, nine and ninety eight three ESPN.
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